Session 29 ft. Pour Minds

Hi and welcome to Crystal's couch, the show where I answer your questions for advice and talk to the most interesting people in the world. Today's guests are the voices behind one of the most influential podcasts in the culture right now for minds. Yes, Lex P and Jay and Nicole are straight out of Houston, Texas and they have built an incredible platform through honesty, humor and friendship. They say a lot of the things that a lot of people are thinking but are too scared to say allowed in front of others, all camera, etc. What started as conversations between two close friends became viral moments, a TV show, one of the most loyal audiences in podcasting and now a sold out live tour across the country. Ebony recently named them "creators redefining media" and that feels very deserved because they have absolutely created their own lane. So please welcome to the couch, Lex P and Jay and Nicole. Thank you! This is what y'all have built together. The show has been around since 2018, so talk to me a little bit about like when you look back now, what part of your early relationship or the beginnings of your friendship became the foundation for the show and who y'all are now today? I think when I look back on the early parts of our friendship, we always love to say this. We started making money together when we first met, so it's only right that we ended up coming up with poor minds and it's become a super successful show because when we first met, we were both bartenders at a strip club in Houston, and we were getting to the money. I think we were working together for a few months and we was like high and bi to each other in past, but we had never really had a full conversation and then one night we were working together behind the bar and we ended up just talking because this guy was asking me for all of these crazy drinks and it was my first bar at any job. I didn't know how to make drinks. I'm like, "Girl, do you know how to make a drink? Do you know how to make this bar more like this lemon drop because all I could do was to get a drink and that was the beginning of our friendship and so eventually I feel like poor minds kind of essentially is the same thing. We had this idea, we gonna do this together and when we start getting to this money, we gonna do this together. A lot of it was just really navigating life, but living to that land, she had been there a year before me and we were trying to figure out what we wanted to do with our career. We would just literally press record and talk about it and I mean being a young black woman trying to navigate life is just interesting as it is already and I think we were just being honest about it and I think people gravitated towards it because they're like, "Oh my gosh, me too." Right. Especially with a dating aspect, I feel like a lot of women complain about dating especially in Atlanta. Yeah. They do. And right Felisa. Right Felisa. Are there things any better in that regard do y'all feel like, you know, it's not so bad. Now, the game has gotten a little, no, I don't know, I think Atlanta is one of those places where the men to women ratio is all, and then especially if you want to date a successful man and you want to date somebody that's not married, not deal, um, they're asking for that. You're asking for that. You're asking for like a pool is getting even smaller, so I think it's just a lot of men out there and I mean, it's not as many men out there in comparison to the women. And so it just makes it difficult to date out there because the men got so many options. Yeah. The men aren't that baddie here or two, like they didn't want to be the passenger princess or man. Yeah. What about me? I like Rosa too. Yeah. Who's gonna be the boy? Exactly. It's a lot of that going on. But I'm not gonna lie. I think a lot of it has to do with the internet and the conversations that we had, especially us. I mean, we were talking about BDBs back then, we were talking about the things that guys would do for us and like, you know, stuff like that. We put a lot of people on game, but the guys were watching too. Yeah. Yeah. So now they're like, oh, okay. So, yeah. It's a lot different now. Baby. Yes. Baby. So dating hasn't really gotten better than men have maybe gotten a little more hip to what y'all have going on and so, I mean, I can see how especially in Atlanta where it's so many beautiful, successful, talented women, where the Tim straight single men there are like, oh, please. I'm just saying the Tim straights, literally, literally, straight and single, right? Because I know the married men. Oh, baby, baby. That's the single too. Maybe the most. I'm like, I swear, Scottie, you came up here and she was like, if a man seems super single, he is the most man. Oh, yeah. All of them are absolutely. It's higher family. Oh. I cannot agree that more. So, y'all's appeal, I think, I mean, just sitting here talking to you, it feels like I'm talking to like my cousin. So, I know when people listen to your show, they feel so tapped in, they're like, oh my God, these are my girls. Yeah. How do you feel like your southerness adds to the way y'all communicate, connect with people? 'Cause I'm from Oklahoma. Okay. Literally talking to y'all. Yeah. You like me. Most of my family is in Houston now, so literally talking to y'all, it's like, so, and so a lot of people tell me, like, oh my God, you're so country, oh my God, you sound like you just fell off the back of a big old truck and I'm like, so you know, it adds something to my content. I know that. how you feel like your culture, your background adds to things you have to say and the dynamic on the show. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Okay, I feel like it adds to the appeal because number one, we just country is here. Like who we talk. Like one of the main things people are always commenting on on our show is my voice. Like they always like, "Drew your voice, the way you drag your words, the Southern draw." So I think that definitely adds to the appeal because there's nobody else that's doing podcasts right now that sound like it. But then on top of that, we're just Southern girls and we come, we both come from really good families. And in my family, talking about a lot of things was just so taboo growing up. And so I think now that we have our own podcasts and our own platform, I just really like to dig deep and talk about a lot of those topics that people make you feel like you should be shunned for talking about. Okay. Especially in the south. Yeah. Because I feel like in black families in the south, it's just so many secrets. Yeah. I mean, should you stuff you don't talk about publicly, especially? Right. Right. And so I feel like our podcast kind of gives people a space where they can talk about it and have their own conversations off camera about it with their friends too. Yeah. Our goal is always to create like a safe space, you know, for people just to feel like you can write in, get advice from us, you know what I'm saying? Live shows, you can really talk to us. So I think that it does help. But a lot of times I feel like it was hard for us to kind of get in like the New York and LA market because they didn't like our voice. Oh my god, I cannot listen to this. Yeah. And I'm like, it's not that bad. Yeah. As our song goes by on the episode, you get used to it. Right. Right. So I think now like people in the West Coast and the East Coast, they're kind of used to our voices now. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I tell you what, they might not, it might be a little hard on the podcast, but if y'all wanted to come up here and find some men, you would have no trouble at all. Oh, baby, baby, you do not have to talk for too long now. They're gonna start batting in my lashes. Take a picture. I'm selling you. Yes. Yes. Clearly that. So you mentioned both of you coming from these great families, supportive families. Do your families listen to the show? How do they feel about it? So my dad passed away in 2020, but I still have my mom here. And girl, she comes to all of our live show. She has been in the studio when we have filmed the episode. Actually, we filmed the episode with Charlemagne in December. And she was there and girl, we was talking about some crazy ass shit. And she was just sitting there cracking up. Oh, yeah. So yes, my mom is very supportive. A lot of my family members are supported. Like, they come side shows and Houston all the time. And um, some of them not so much, but I get it because, you know, they a little more religious. Yeah. And so the church and they just be feeling like, uh, clutches pearl. It's too much for me. And I respect that and I understand, but my mom, she's always told me at the end of the day, you grown. Yeah. Like, you're grown and everybody is having sex. That's how y'all got here in the first place. That's how we all got here. Right. And she'd be like, some of our family members to be acting like they wasn't doing the same stuff that you be talking about on your show. And they were younger. And that's why it doesn't bother me because I was young at one point too. And I remember what that's like, I supported it. And I love you either way. Oh, yeah. Okay. I think for me, because I'm a little more open on the show. So in the beginning, like, I had moments where I was like, put in my family business kind of out there. So it was like, and I didn't realize because at this point, the show was big, but it's like nowhere near where it is now. So I'm just talking freely. And then it was getting back to my family. And they were like, excuse me. Like, what's going on? So yeah, it was a moment to where it was like, okay, we don't really like this. And you're doing this for nothing. Like you're telling our business for nothing because the podcast ain't doing nothing. But then it's like, as I became more aware of what I was saying on the point. And then, you know, I made a public apology specifically to my aunt because we had a moment where I'd said something too much. And I made a public apology. And I was like, you know what? Let me just be careful about what I say on this show. And now, like, they're super supportive. My aunt, my uncle's, my mom passed away in 2022, but before then, she was extraordinary. extremely supportive of my sister. Like they all love it because I've always been like a loud outgoing person. So like thank God she can do what she's already gonna do and get paid for it. So they're super supportive. - You know, I feel like I relate to both of that. Definitely there was an element with my family of like, that girl Ben running her mouth. - Yeah, literally I'm not shocked that she get paid to talk. - Yeah. - She Ben talking like this is, this is her lane. But then also it was like at first, like my cousins would maybe come to a show or something like that. But it's like they all have kids. They deepen the church, you know? So it was like, I can't do too much to show. But you know, that's my cousin and I love him. But not too much, you know? (laughs) - It's a bit much for them and I understand like, I had to actually have a conversation with one of my uncles recently because we about to have our show in Houston next week. - Oh yeah. - And the last show that they came to, which was in 2023, him and his wife. She was like, I love her, I love Jury, but I can't come to know more of their show. I was like, this was a lie. And so I had to let my uncle know, like, look, it's been like three years. We've grown a lot, the show is still gonna be a little crazy. I mean, we might say some crazy stuff, but it's not gonna be as random as it was last time. Like I think it's safe for y'all to come. And so, him and my uncle. - That's not gonna be a theme show too. - It was, it was. - Oh, the worst show for me to be a girl. - It was, girl. - She said, I can't. - It was a lie. But it was fun. - It was fun. - But she said, I'm gonna just support from afar, but they gone come. She said, she gonna give it another chance. - Oh, Lord. - Yeah, I feel like that's me sometimes, like, ooh, sometimes I let the young girls have. - Yeah. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, and they can't do that. (laughing) So, both of you, I think I just heard both of you say that you've lost a parent in the past few years. Do you feel like, first of all, I'm very sorry. - Thank you. - I'm both of you for that loss. But have you felt like it has affected the way you approached during the show or being in as a public figure? - I wouldn't so much say that. I just feel like my dad's death impacts me in a way that just made me feel like it's important for me to live my life and chase my dreams. Because you just never know how much time you have. Like, my dad had been sick for a while, but it was still unexpective for me and my mom when he passed away. And it really just lit a fire under me and made me want to stop procrastinating and just start taking poor minds more serious. Because, Lex and I were being consistent, but I don't know that I looked at it like it was gonna be the big thing in my life that took me to the next level at the time. And so, when that happened, it just made me really want to go hard. - I think it's the same for me. It was like when my mom passed away, it was like my world stopped. And it was right before you went on our second tour. So, it was like everybody was like, oh my gosh, are they still gonna go on tour? And I just remember just like having like a dream and my mom is just like, if I would have like not did the tour or stopped doing poor minds, she would have been so furious at me. But I do remember like growing up, my mom was always like preparing us and being like, you know, one day I'm not gonna be here. One day I'm not gonna be here. She was always that type of mother. So, I felt like whenever she passed away, I wasn't ready mentally, but I knew I was prepared to handle everything that I had to do. And it's like still in life. Now, it's like I have questions. And I see people calling my mom like, "Mom, you know, what is this?" And I'm still like, "Damn, I wish my mom was here." 'Cause I don't know what to do. I don't know how to figure it out, but it's like I'm figuring it out. And I just get myself grace. 'Cause sometimes I would have a breakdown. 'Cause I'm like, I need to call my mom. And I can't, oh sorry, I don't wanna get emotional. But it's still so hard because I feel like I'm living the life that I know she's so proud of. But it's like dang, I wish she was here. And you know, people be like, "Oh, when she's here, it's spirit." But it's not the same. It's like it does make you feel a little better because I do feel like her and Drea's dad are like, up there pulling some kind of strings, baby. But the success that we have seen, it's so amazing, but it's still a journey. You know, it still feels fresh. It still feels unreal, but I think it has, like she said, put a fire in me to like just keep going in. It's like I kind of feel like I have to step up and be that person in my family that just provides and does everything. So it's definitely a journey, grief is a journey. And it feels different every day. And that's why I've learned as well. - It does 100%. Like I definitely kind of piggyback off of what you just said. I definitely girl think that they up there pull some type of strings because the way that the show just simultaneously started taking off right around. That's like I feel like we had like this big spike when my dad passed away. And then same thing happened when her mind passed away too and that was like our first major tour. I had to go and record an episode of "Poor Minds" that I did my dad passed away. And I didn't want to talk about it on the show yet. So I had to like keep it together. And I didn't talk about it until like three months later and still to this day when people go back and watch the episode, they like, I don't know how you did that. And to be honest, I don't either. I just think you get yours. I don't know. It's like you get your strength from different sources when things like that happen and you're stronger than what you think you are. - Yeah. It's interesting because when you work an entertainment, you are expected to go perform, even when the worst things are happening to you. So you just said that you went and recorded "Poor Minds" like the day your dad died, you recorded the show. That's the sort of thing where it's like, I've been in similar situations where like, my personal life is falling apart. Like horrible things are happening. And still every Wednesday, I have to go be clocked in and all that mic I'm ready to talk about. You know, a deal or whatever. And so it just, do you feel like you have learned the new level of resilience by having a show and putting the work in to have it be so popular because you all have been around for a while now. So you understand how a lot of people look at podcasting and they go, oh, I can do that. - Yeah. - And it look easy when people who are good at it are doing great, but you don't really know until you're in it the amount of dedication and work that it takes to keep a show going, being consistent and showing up even when things are hard. - Yeah, do you think that doing poor minds for as long as y'all have has given you a new level of resilience? - For sure, I definitely think that it has, but it's like a double-edged sword for me at the same time 'cause I think it's made me tougher and made me stronger. But sometimes I hate that people don't give us no grace either though. It's like they tend to forget. And I'm sure you can relate to that as well. Like people just tend to forget that you're human and you're navigating life the same way that they are but they just get to watch us do it. - Right, yeah. - I think it's a lot of, sometimes it's like, y'all get to go to work and have bad days when you're having stuff and you're not in a good mood but it's like when we show it to record, sometimes it'd be hard, we had a bad day. Me and my dude may be getting into it or something may be going on in my house, something that broke down, a carton broke down, anything could be going on. It's like we show up and we're trying to give 100%, but we got a million things on our mind. And they're like, oh my God, they're fighting today. - Yeah. - Oh, Lex, Kate, Sandra, Dre, Kate, Stam, Lex, but I think one thing that we've learned to do is one half tough skin, but too like, we don't care about the comments, 'cause y'all, when I tell you it's fanfiction in them comments, they will create a whole story. - Right, it's almost funny to read stuff that people think of with it. - Where did you even get them? - Inside a night. - Yeah, yeah. Hearing y'all talk about that reminds me of Meg and the stallion, just ending her Broadway run early after everything happened with that. - Yes. - There's a boyfriend of ours. And how so many people were upset about that. And it's like, on the one hand, I get it, you know, you pay for tickets, flights, hotels, stuff like that. On the other hand, it's not a solo show. Understudies go on every day on Broadway productions. And that girl is only human. - She's only human. - It just feels like when you're an entertainer, people feel like you should be able to put whatever you have going on to the side and just get over it for the sake of going out there and putting on a show. But sometimes it doesn't work like that. - He doesn't. - Dorian Bernard, when he came on our show, he was talking about how taxing Broadway here. - Oh, yes. - He was like, it's taxing already as it is. You have to go on three, four, five, six times a week, sometimes two, three times a day. And then you just found out somebody who you loved, thought you were going to get married completely betrayed you. I know when I had a regular job, I found out one time I was getting cheated on while I was at work. - Yeah. - And I was just struggling to serve them damn wings, the whole shit. - Yeah. - Oh my God, I can't believe this just happened. - So to me, it's like give people grace. And I think that the whole culture of celebrity gossip has gone so far where we just treat people like they're just a figment of entertainment. And that's it. And we forget that these are human beings. So when she left Broadway early, I'm like good for her, because she probably knows how to take care of her mental a little bit better from her last fiasco that she has. - Right. - And she understands how to get a hold of that. And she let the world know how, you know, she was having moments of being suicide on this, let that girl take a break. - Yeah, and she just needed that break. And like, I'm glad that now we're in the space where we could do that. 'Cause I think that situation with my dad was something that really taught us like, okay, maybe we need to start batch recording. - Just in case something does happen. And then we can have like that week off, those two weeks off to just kind of take a break and recollect ourselves because it's hard when something is going wrong in your life and you gotta pull it up and record it every year. - It is, oh my gosh. - It is and I think it's an interesting balance between, you know, when you're an entertainer, you have your own show, you do have to be consistent. The audience has to grow. They have to be able to trust that the show's gonna come out. But when you've been in it for years, you would think that if I need to step away for a couple of weeks, that would be okay. - Maybe that's what you're gonna do. - That's what you're gonna do, she's gonna be like, "Oh, it's so hot, where's my damn show?" - Any bit not drop it, stayin' on one. - Oh, burn it up, burn it up. - I was just about to be in you lens. - Yeah, so they don't play it, they be so streaming. - Yeah, it's sort of like, I thank you. I'm so happy that you connect this much with the show and you love it this much. But like, girl, I am just a person. - Yeah. - I'm almost going on over here. So that's just part of like, the game. And it's something that you really only have to do with when you're successful, so that's why it is that double edge part of the game. - If nobody cared, then you're not making it. - You're not making it. - We're not exactly. So as we're sitting here talking about it, is there anything that y'all think success has given you that like you didn't quite expect? Or on the other hand, something that maybe it took away from you that you like, damn, I miss. 'Cause like for me, I am constantly doing this like, I love y'all so much, thank you so much. I appreciate how much y'all love me. And sometimes I just want to be at the club or whatever with my friends. Like I did not come here to do like a public appearance. - Yeah. - I feel bad for saying like, I'm not taking pictures tonight. - Yeah. - Or something like that was like, I kind of just want to be a regular person. - Yeah. - And it's like, I'm not trying to, you know, I'm not sitting up here, I'm like, I'm beyond saying that's a good way. - Right, right. - But like people do recognize me. They come up to me, they talk to me. It's like, I'm with my nephew, man. Come on. - Me, man. - So yeah, do y'all feel that same way about success? - I think for me, it's like, I be surprised that people care so much about my personal life. Like, they be wanting to know every little thing. Oh, who is this friend? I'm never saying like, where are we? Who is she dating? Who is it? Who is she on vacation? I'm like, oh yeah. I just never thought that people care so much. So I think that aspect of it, I haven't gotten used to. And then like as far as people taking pictures with me, I have learned to like getting this mind frame of, you know what, this person probably is not gonna see you again. And they're just taking advantage of the moment, they're excited to see you. And I just kinda, I'm always excited to see the listeners. Like sometimes it does get overbearing 'cause it was like one time we were at the Monolio concert and they literally had to do a barricade around my head. - It was a lie. - It was, it was a lie. - It was a lie. - We do get overwhelmed, but again, I try to stay in the mind frame of this is a blessing because if nobody cared, we wouldn't be able to pay our bills, so. - Yeah, and I feel like I share the same sentiment as you. Like it's just the privacy factor that sometimes it's hard for me to deal with because I don't think that even when I thought about the show being successful a few years ago and I could tell where it was going, I don't think that I thought about that part of it. Like I didn't think about like, oh, you can't even go to the grocery stores without getting stuff. Like I had talked about this on another podcast that we did one time. I was in CDAs and it was like a few years after my dad passed away and I was on a phone with my mom having a mental breakdown. Like I was crying and this girl just walked us to me. She was like, oh my god, Julia, can I get a picture? And I'm like, yeah, come on. And so I applaud you for even being able to like, just tell people, no? 'Cause that's something that I need to work on. I have never not wanted to run into somebody that listens to the show and told them, no, because I just always feel bad because I feel like, especially more so for me, people try to always on our show kind of create this narrative that like I'm like stuck up and bougie and stuff. And so I even more so feel like when I run into people in person, I just gotta be like, oh yeah, let's take the picture even if I'm not in the mood. - Right. Well, so sometimes for me is, I mean, yes, sometimes it's like, girl, I'm not in the mood. - Yeah. - Or if you catch me at eight o'clock in the morning, when I'm looking crazy, what about an old walk-in-up dog? Like, do you really think I wanna take the picture right now? - Right. - But for me, that thought in the back of my mind is, oh, they gonna think I'm ungrateful. - Yeah. - And they're gonna take time then. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And they're gonna take time. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's tricky to even have this conversation publicly because people will hear this and be like, "Oh, you're so ungrateful." - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - That's what we might as well get ready right now. - Yeah. - Oh, my gosh, poor y'all. - You're so popular. - You're so popular. - You're such a picture of y'all. - Oh my god, it's so hard for me. - First of all, let's try. - It's like, okay, girl. Like, I can't even talk about it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, it's really conversations that happen offline, amongst certain circles. - Yeah. - And it's like, you can't get on the internet and talk about the downsides of being successful, 'cause people who's like, "Well, bitch, give it up then." - Yeah. - Like, I didn't say the bad outweighed the good. - Right. - But how is it that I can be reasonably expected to not talk about some of the things that are hard? And it's really an adjustment more than anything else. - Yeah, right. - You know, y'all have been at it for a while, so you've seen the growth and you've seen how things change, but like, any of those people who are, you know, responding in that way, if they were in the same situation, they would find it hard to adjust. - Yeah. - It's not an actual way of living. - It's not. - I didn't even look at us as like celebrities for real. Like, I just feel like, not that we're just podcasters, but I don't know, I just don't feel like a celebrity. So it'd be so weird, like, when people come to me and be like, "I'm like, man, you talking to me?" - You talking to me? - Yeah, I'm like, "I'm like, somebody, I'm like, oh my god, I'm going crazy." (laughing) - Oh, I'm like, "I'm going crazy, I'm going crazy." - Yeah. - Yeah. - Wait, I'm going crazy. - Yeah. - I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm going crazy." - It's shocking. - Yeah. - It's shocking at times, especially sometimes, like, when you were in the Occasional choir, it'd be like, "Oh my god." - Yeah. - And I don't know what to do. I'm like, "Okay, all right." - Yeah. - I guess you need to. - Yeah. - Yeah. - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you could permanently delete one thing from your brain, what would it be? 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WayFair every style every home. When you have the kind of show y'all have where you're very open, you're very self-aware, do you find that there's a common misconception that people have about you or things that they misunderstand about you? I feel misunderstood all the time by people. Really? Yeah, but it's always been that way for me. I feel like my whole life, like ever since I was in school, like growing up. I just always felt misunderstood by people because I think people be committed to me. It's understanding me and then I'm a very confident person and then I always have my own opinions about things. I don't necessarily go with the popular opinions, I didn't have you trying to say I'm a contrary. Bishin' my contrary and do I just have my own opinion and this is how I feel about the things. You know what I mean? It's okay. It is. But people will always think that I think that I'm right about things and I also just feel like when you have a certain aura and again, you exude confidence, it runs people the wrong way because I feel like most people are not naturally confident in themselves and believing themselves the way that I do and I just think you're real people the wrong way. And then when you add on top of that, you kind of got like, I don't give a fuck attitude. They really rub them the wrong way. But I'm such a sweet and kind person and genuine person in real life to all my friends, my family. And even when we weren't into listeners, listeners always fall in love with me. They'd be like, oh my God, just so sweet and so kind. And it always let me know you probably thought I was. Yeah. Why would you say that? For why would you say that? Yeah. So sometimes when people meet me and parse in my energy, it's not that it's low. I'm just chilling right now. Right now with me, I'm asleep. I was sleeping on the car all the way here. - Yeah. - I'm a good nap. - I'm a very light. - She's knocked out. - I really am, I don't wanna say introverted, but I do like to spend a lot of time alone. I like to relax a lot. So, I think a lot of times people expect me just to be like, "Tap dance and crack a joke, crack a joke, say ho and dance." Say what you be standing on, say, "Shut up, girl!" I'm like, "Girl, I'm trying to buy these eggs." - Yeah. - I think a lot of times people expect me just to be on 10 all this time, or sometimes if we film an episode and I'm just chilling, they're like, "What's wrong with let she's in the bathroom?" I'm like, "No, I'm just chilling today." And then, let me warm up. Maybe I just woke up. Maybe I just got here to the studio. You don't know what's been going on. So I think a big misconception of me is that like I'm always on 10, I'm always being loud. And I think sometimes people even think when I am being loud that I'm trying to harder, I'm doing too much. I'm like, this is literally how I am. Right. When I'm tucked up, even when the cameras are on or off, I'm literally like this, like all the time. So even when I am being my normal bubbly self, people are like, oh, she doing too much. She's trying too hard to be funny. I'm like, this is just who I am. So I think a lot of times people just think I have so many extremes, but that's just my real personality. Yeah and it's not really reasonable to expect you to be like Why would I be like that like pumping and but at the same time you're like you know like people they for whatever reason and because you know you exude confidence and when you're confident about what you have to say you're confident going against the group or with a majority might think about things Like you said, people are gonna be mad about that, but don't let you also not care how they feel. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They're like, "This is gonna be so bad." - 'Cause when I think about me, I'ma double down on some shit every time. - Ooh, I feel you, but if I said it and I'm minted, then why would I walk it back? - And because I feel like if you know, if you speak with conviction and you truly believe the things that you say in it, you're not just pulling it out, show-ass, and they're saying it just to say, Why would I back down like no, this is really how I feel I thought about it. And I'm saying it because I thought about That's true though But a lot of people nowadays I say this all the time are saying things for clickbait Right and then when they get canceled for they're like, oh shoot, I got it Yeah, I didn't mean that it's like yeah, that's what you get for just trying to say stuff to get a reaction out of being right You know what I mean, right and I feel like that has gotten so much more popular over the past few years - Yes. - People just saying, shit, shit. - Yes. - Yeah. - Like, please don't mistake me for one of them hoes. - I'm telling all about it. - I tell all about it. - Yeah. - But I said that. - I'm gonna promise to God, I thought about it. - I considered the research. - Yeah. - I knew him. - Hello. - What I was saying when I said this shit, I did not say that just to piss y'all on right. - I wasn't gonna do that. - And majority of the time, if they actually go do their own research, especially if it's on something that has backing mind. - Right. - They'll realize, you're not really just saying some shit just to say, - So a good example, we had an episode last week and we were talking about, remember we were talking about Show Car? And Lex Car is like a dark blue. And my car is white. And so she was just saying how dirty her car be. And I was like, girl mine too, I need to go get it washed. But you know the good thing about having a white car is that dirt doesn't show up as easy on white cars as it does on dark cars. And she was like, yeah, that's true. And somebody was in the comments like, "Drea, you sound crazy." That's ridiculous. I was like, "Google is free." - Oh, yeah. - Because you could literally Google it, it's the truth. - And what does show up on your car, it's white. - It is. - So white car. - And I Google it just so I can say that to him. I was like Google it's free. 'Cause that's what pop up when he's talking to him. - People just love to argue. - Why would you pick that? Of all the things to argue with me about, like why would that get you so incensed that you're like, let me talk about that. - He was like, I was arguing me about Anne Frank, but they wanted to laugh. - Now, when I give him something to argue about, - They just want to cry and joke. - I'm sure, I'm weak. - When you said, and Frank was born in the 16th year, and who was like, no, she was though. - Yeah. - And you was over here like, no, girl. And then he was like, no, I'm confused how Helen Keller like, she won born in the 16th century. - First year, I needed to give it up. They said, "Bad, you're talking about Christ the Fractalown." - Yes, bitch. Because that was a, yes. Because the three of them was actually all alive at the same point in time at some point. - Yes. - I was like, "Oh, no baby, there is nothing less than "the way it's all right." - It was a deal. - And listen, high school's a long time though. - It was, there it is. - Oh my god. - Reminding people, "Hey, I'm about to be 37 now." - Like, come on, okay. I'm a very smart, educated girl, but I was more so, I was a mathematician. I was a man's girl, okay. - Those were my, you know, areas of expert math and science, okay? - Don't ask me about history. - I don't know what you're saying. - No verb, noun, pronouns, none of that. I don't know what none of that is. - But I can add some shit. - Yeah. I mean, I did have to look it up, but I said I know Helen Keller was not pointing up damn 16. - Nah, she doesn't, girl. - I'm simply funny. (laughing) - It was a little later. - I was like, what do you think? - World War II was. - Right. - Dave, but Dave was saying in our comments that Helen Keller isn't even real that she was fake, that they made her own. - Okay, good. - They did say that. - Dave did say that, but they're fucking lying. He really exists he and then she she didn't got to the 60 what did then they said that she was flying That she could see about being blind and that's what the TV do Well, maybe what when people walk up on stage that he'd be like this he could probably hear their feet coming You just tell you what they said I didn't say this and that's why you can't listen to everybody - I can see if you want to go really see, he would've got caught by Nero. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Come on, be for real. So because I have been doing this show for so long, do you ever feel like you have maybe outgrown a version of yourself that, you know, or some things that you used to say, 'cause like the read has been around 13 years. - Yeah. - Baby, that girl from 2013 and the girl from 2016, like not the same age. - Yeah. - So do you ever feel like maybe that you have grown up in certain ways and the audience don't appreciate it 'cause I get a lot of feedback of like, you're too serious now, like. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - And now everything you say is smart. - Yeah. (laughing) - Well done, bitch. What you want me to do? - It's just me for elevating and working on myself. - My bad for growing it right. - That's hilarious. - Now I feel that 100% because yes, girl, we get those type of comments all the time. Like they be like, we miss the red and black background. Y'all was so unhinged back then and y'all were so fun and carefree and y'all just used to have such a good time. Now I feel like the show is more serious than they complain about the guests because we didn't used to have guests. So they'd be like y'all be having too many guests on and when the guests come on, it'll be the same as the solo episodes. They just always complain in the light about the newer versions of us. But they also do have to realize, number one, yes, the show started in 2018. Licks and I are not those same versions of ourselves as we are now. And then, I don't know, like, just so much has changed in our lives. We've changed as women. We also just don't even like to touch-- on certain topics. We don't date the same way that we use to. - Oh, yeah, that's a big one. - Yeah, it's, we don't date the same way that we use to. And we also just like to be a little bit more private about that part of our life. I think that was something that they really enjoyed that we would talk about. But now we don't really talk about it as much. I think they definitely feel a way about that, but we also have sponsors. Now the show is making a lot more money. We gotta be careful sometimes with the things. We say we don't wanna offend people, but they don't understand. They don't always understand it. I think we do have some of our audience that they understand with a good amount of them. They don't be trying to hear these things. - But I think it's like you can also understand that whenever I started being online, I was like, what, 20th, eighth, right? And I did not know anything what I was doing with my life. I used to drink, yeah, the time same. I used to be on the show so like, I mean, I still get tipsy on the show and have a good time, but it's just like, again, I'm about to be 37 this year. So I should not be the same 28, 29, 30 year old one that you watched, but what I do appreciate is we do have a large chunk of our audience who has grown with us. Then we have new listeners coming in that do enjoy it. So the people that used to like the ratchet, turn up stuff, they maybe have filtered out, but that's also okay. We're gonna grow and we're gonna lose some on the way, but we're also gonna gain a lot on the way. So I'm gonna just appreciate the people who appreciate where we're going right now. - Yes, I love that because you really like, it's not worth it to not grow up because people might not like, you know more. And you have to always remember that if you never evolved or changed, then people would be listening like, "Damn these hosts, 37 is still talking about the shit they did when they was 29." It's really no winning with some people. And so I feel the same way, like the people who are like, I've been listening since day one, I'm like, I can't believe you have evolved with us. This past 13 years, I love that you still getting something out of the show, but I also understand for some people, it's not the same, it don't hit the same. And they looking for something else. And that's why it's a million podcasts out here. You can definitely go find them on it. - It's clicking with what you want. - Yeah, we always say that too. Like, it's so many other podcasts out there. It's so much content, it's not working for you no more. - Yeah, yeah. - Right, 'cause everybody out of show these days, you know, I mean, and that's great, the more the barrier really, but it just means that I'm not trying to be everything to everybody, because how could I have to be right? I have to do what feels right to me first and foremost, and the audience will come from that. It's not me catering to you, it's me being myself, and whoever that is for, you know, but I'm not trying to be universally loved. - I agree with you. - And I think we get comments from a lot of people that would be like, oh my gosh, this is what our Black women choose to say, this is all Black podcasts. Talk about my first of all. All the podcasts, whatever race we all be talking about, the same shit first of all. Then if this is not, there's so many Black women that have so many educational podcasts, podcasts about politics. - Yeah, true QA and podcasts. - But instead of giving them love and going promote that podcast, you want to sit under our comments every week, telling us how bad we are and what we don't do. But I'm like, that's so crazy because my algorithm literally only shows me things that I enjoy. I don't even engage with things I don't like because I don't want to see on my timeline. So it's so crazy to me that people are like, how is this on my timeline? Because you're engaging with us. You're liking our pictures. You're doing something where poor minds is popping up on your face. So just leave it alone and go support the people who do talk about the things that you want to hear, you know? - Right, it's like going to a choreographer and being like, why are you not teaching us physics? - Right. - Bench, 'cause that's not what I do. - I can't hear you. - You know how to twerr. - Right. - You know what I'm saying? - And like you said, black women especially are doing podcasts about so many different topics. Please go talk to the PhDs and go tune in today show about the smarty-arty shit that they do. - Yeah. - And they're good at it. - And they are. - They are. - A lot of production now. See what we started on podcasting. - We have one camera. - What am I? - One of my horrible side views. Now, these people are starting podcasts with 4K Kim. - Yeah. - They in-house studios. - So I was like, they have great content there. So it's y'all can. - You can go for it. - Even tick, I guess somebody that is coming up on my algorithm now, a black woman talking about how the black church used to be so much more political and what has happened from like the 50s to now. And I just, when y'all talking to, maybe think of that because it's like, imagine somebody coming to me and being like, while I'm in the middle of talking about, you know, blue, ivy's hair or whatever, yeah. - Why are you not talking about the impact of the black church on the Democratic Party in 1966? It's like bitches. - Well, I don't think so. - I was born to the party talking about that. - It's not me. - Yeah. - I was injured. - Yeah. - About you in Cleveland. - Yes. - So what would y'all say has been harder? Building success publicly or growing up and evolving publicly? - I feel like it's been equally as difficult. - Okay. - Like growing up and evolving is difficult because again, like we were just talking about, you have all of the critics that don't like the newer version of your self-determination becoming. But then the success part has been difficult too because Lex and I have really been navigating this on our own. Like we definitely, you know, we're signed to '85 and they've helped us a lot when it comes to building the business behind the scenes. But when it comes to poor minds, it's really just Lex and I running the show and running everything as far as the finances. We had to learn a lot. Like we had to learn-- - We fun to everything. - Yeah. - We had to learn a lot of our finances. We fun to everything on our own. Now we have a staff of about like 10 to 11. Yes, and like we didn't really have anybody to teach us how to navigate that world. And so we had to, it was a lot of trial and error. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I feel like it's the same for me. Like I've never been. Like Drea always said, like she's always had that like entrepreneurial spirit. - Yeah. - It's never been me. I always wanted to clock in, give me my paycheck every two weeks and I need it on time. - Yeah. - And I never wanted to like own a business if I'm being honest. So making that transition like literally when my last job I had, they like pretty much made me quit. And I was like, I don't want to quit though. They're like, man, you got to go. - Yeah. - I called Drea, I was like, they made me quit. I don't know what to do. Like girl, okay, let's turn up like this is what you wanted. So that transition into being like a boss and you know, having to sometimes, you know, hey, we can pay ourselves out this month 'cause we gotta make sure our staff get their money. And you know, budgeting and doing things like that. It's a blessing, but again, we've had to learn everything like just me and her. - Right. - And then growing in front of the camera too, like I am a business. So I have to keep that in mind at all times. And I think a lot of times people will try to bring up old things, bring up old clips or things that I used to say. And I'm like, okay, I don't feel that way anymore. - Right. - Don't you change your mind? - They don't though. - Do you not change your mind? - I think a lot of people don't. - Yeah. - And they feel like that's being real. But like, I would feel like an idiot if I thought the same things and felt the same way now as I did when I was like 13 years old. - I'm saying no. You mean, you got no nuggets here. - Yeah. - Do you still eat dot on nuggets now? - No, you changed your mind. - No, I don't. - You really still eat nuggets, Steve. But I think that's been a struggle for me because people were like, well, Lex, I thought that you said, I said, well, Lex is figuring life out. - Yeah. - Lex changed her mind. And when she was doing it that way, she realized it wasn't working for her. So now Lex feels this way. And so it's like a lot of times I feel like growing up in front of the camera, they don't give us grace. - Yeah. - It'd be hard because it's like, I'm very sensitive too. So a lot of things be hurting my feelings. And I'd be like, dang, like, do y'all not realize like I'm a human? Like, it was this one video on TikTok and people was talking about like, oh, I don't like people who try too hard and being funny. And then I'm looking at the comments and they're like naming all these comedians. I'm like, oh, damn. Oh, damn. And then all of a sudden they said, Lex, P2. - And it got like 3,000 likes. - Oh, no. - Oh my god. - Not 3,000 people. - 3,000 people. - Yeah. - Oh, no. - Oh, yes. (laughing) But I think with things like that, like I said, I have just learned, so I can't do anything. But be me. - Yeah. - And I think even before the show, I had tried so long to like fit in a box of what I thought society wanted for me. And then when I felt like I was doing that, I didn't feel comfortable. I didn't feel like I was growing. And once I just kind of let go of caring and just was like, this is, I'm gonna unapologetically be myself, then I started to attract those people that were like, you know what? I'm here for y'all and I love y'all. And I think that's what's been able for us to like, even do things outside of poor minds as well. So I feel like growing up in front of the camera, like venturing and changing is difficult. - Yeah. - It's very, very hard, it's very hard. - I definitely had to grow a thick skin once the rig got really popular. - Yeah. - It was like, you just are not ready for thousands of people's opinions about you to be, and then now the, I mean, at least when we started, the algorithm wasn't like it is now. Now I could just be on TikTok, mine and my business, and then here go a video of somebody being like, oh, I'm fucking Christy. - Yeah. - And it's like, damn, bitch, what I do. - Why would you put that on the fucking table? - I like to put that on the chat and ask for this. - Yeah. - You really do have to develop this sense of like, people are allowed to have their opinions. - Yes. - These people don't know me, and it's been so important for me to protect my private life and things that are not subject to the internet. or the listeners approval or you know, it's just certain things I keep private because I'm not gonna share nothing with the world that I'm not ready for people to throw back in my face. - Yeah. - At this point, I just know that like anything I say, somebody who don't like me is gonna try to hurt me with it. - Absolutely. - I don't feel like there's anything where you're like, I'm too vulnerable about these topics. Like we're gonna keep certain shit private. Like it's certain things on, or even within your friendship where it's like, we are, we have to make sure that like, we are a team first and foremost like, or just, you know, just the way you kind of have to adjust what you say and in the best interests of you. Like making sure that you're taking care of yourself. - One of the main things that we used to always talk about on the show, like we would always give the guys that we were dating at the time, nicknames. And we would talk about our dating like on the show. Now we don't do that anymore. We never talk about our relationship. I mean, the most we'll do is tell somebody when we're in a relationship. We're not gonna go in there and talk about all of the details. And it's the same way with our friendship. Like if Lex and I were having issues with each other or issues with any of our other friends, we gonna keep that off camera. Because it's not only do we wanna protect our friendship and our relationship but also protect the people in our lives that don't wanna be a part of the spotlight. Because it's difficult and like, people are so fucking nosy. Like it's in one of the main reasons we stopped talking about guys that we were dating on the show. Because girl, we would give them nicknames. And they would find out what I'm not working with. And be posting it on the internet. Like, oh yeah, I know who Lex talking about. I know who Darius talking about. And it's like, how you even finding it? Yeah. Y'all need to go work with the FBI. Yes. Yeah, they interested. Girl. And I think for me, it was like, again, we've had conversations on the show where I've been honest about like how I've been cheated on, how I've cheated on someone in the relationship. I'm like, we're having these conversations. I made joke about an X, Y, Z. But then it's like, they'll fast form me like, well, Lex is a cheater. Why do y'all listen to her? She don't even, she's on every mission she's ever been with. I'm like, how did y'all get that out of me having a conversation or me making joke about something? Or like, I'll talk about how, you know, I grew up like within all white schools. So I kind of, my confidence came a little later in life. And I was kind of always unsure about myself because I fit in, but I didn't look like everybody else. And I'll have these conversations. And they'll be like, this girl don't even like herself. She thinks she's white. And it's like, you know, it's like, you have these moments for your trying to be vulnerable. And they'll literally use it against you. Or they'll think they have some tea. Like, I'm from, I lived in Houston for 10 years. I'm from Orange, Texas. But then we had an episode where I was like, oh, I was born in California, but I was raised in Texas. And somebody was like, that bitch not even from Texas, y'all. You can't use tea that I gave you against me. Right. And I was born in California because I told y'all that. So it kind of makes me want to hesitate sharing things because no matter what I share, they reverse it to make it something negative. It's very strange. Like anybody is always going to take that in the worst possible way. It's like, how is that even tea? Like, I was born in California and moved to Texas when I was like, one, two, three, literally. See, people are just so strange. And one thing that they do, that I really do love because I feel like it's attributed to the growth of the show over the past two years. Like people, it's so many clip pages on TikTok and always clipping episodes of the old shows, episodes of the new shows. And I feel like it's helped grow the show because there always going viral. But then also on the downside, y'all clipping all of these old stuff and then they're taking things that we said and we don't feel that way. Oh, yeah. And so then if we talk about a similar topic on the show, now they're like, well, that's not what y'all said three years ago. Girl, it was three years ago. Right. Because it was three fucking years ago. Let it go. Can I change my mind? I got the information that I got the information. Oh, no. I picked up a book. [LAUGHTER] Lord, I have not posted a nigger in 13 years. I just have not. I refuse. Oh, you're the same. Even still, people will, oh my god. I'll never get last person I was dating. We went to brunch or something. And going about my life, whatever, blah, blah. I get on Instagram later. And somebody done posted a picture to base story of me and my nigger and brunch talking about, OK, Chris, I see you. Oh, my god. I know what that is. I already been horrified. You're so strange. He's in a style of strangers. Why are you taking a picture of me? Is that what I'm going to say? Hey, bruh. I mean, you could have just came and said, like, I'm going to take a selfie with you, but-- Right. But please don't post the person. I don't even post the person I'm dating. Yeah. I'm going to eat it. So that's why I'm like, I wonder if there's anything that y'all are very deliberate about keeping private. Because when your show is as popular as yours, I know you get so much love and support. But you also get the people who are constantly looking for something to come at you for. Now, they're strange, girl. I'm like that with my mom, too, though. Oh, because she lives in Houston by herself. And she'd be going to the grocery store. She'd be moving around and stuff. So I always try not to post her on the internet because I just feel like once I start posting her all the time, people are going to be stopping her trying to take pictures. Sometimes, people are just strange. You just never know what somebody would do today. It might be like, oh, there's joy in my mouth. Because I had a situation in Atlanta where we were at Target together. And you know how like, what is that content called? Will there be recording you? And you don't know they're recording you? And they'll try to make it look like it's a situation at its night. But it's called something specific. I don't know what it's called. I can't remember. But it was like this guy recording some content. He was trying to make it seem like I was giving him my number. Like I was interested in him. But that's not what happened. And so my mom was there. So she was in the content as well. And then he posted it on YouTube. And I had to go off on him because it started going viral. And I was like, what the fuck, you need to delete this? Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's the sort of thing where it's like, I understand we're in public. There's no expectation of privacy. Right. Especially with my nephew. Like, I do not play. Yeah. I'm not saying. These kids didn't ask for none of this. You don't have no concept of like his heath and anion in the entire city doing all this. So like, leave my baby out of it. Yeah. The same way, because I have two nephews. And my oldest nephew is like really quiet, really shy. And so like sometimes like we're out and like, somebody walks up to it's like, I can tell it makes some kind of an obvious. Yeah. So I'm very protective of them as well. So I get that for sure. I get it. I get it. So y'all have a tour. Yes. So moved out tour. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How is it going? Talk to me about tour life. You know, touring is-- I'd love to tour. I don't want to say this. I really do, because it's our moment that we really get to see the people and see who we're affecting and seeing people who actually love it. Like, no, we did spend a lot of time talking about, oh, we hate this. We hate this. But the tour is when we get to see the people who actually love us, the comments that are taken up for us. Yeah. It's just great, really. Understanding us. So the tours when I feel like I really get to be-- we call our listeners the poor crew. And I tell you, the poor crew-- it don't matter what we got going on. They show up, and they show out like-- We have the best listener base ever. It's so crazy. So I really like touring, because I can really see the people, talk to them, touch them, hug them. So I'm excited. Like, it's always good to get on the road and really get out there with the people, for sure. Yeah, what about you? Yeah, I love touring as well, because I feel like it's a great opportunity to be interacting with people. And it's like a more interactive version of the show. I mean, I know people who are watching us sit down and talk, but it's nice to actually be able to come on stage, play games, interag, do trivia. Right. And of course, we're in surprises and surprises. Because we've been given our shots, too. Oh, I don't think it's just really fun, because there's a lot of version of what we already do on camera every week. We call it a big slumber party. It's like a big slumber party. I feel the same way about touring. I do have even still some element of performance anxiety stage, right? That's everything. But it is so great to look out at this audience and see all these people who just love what you saw. Yes, yes. And people have brought us all kinds of little gills. And just, you know, and the stories they tell you about, like, y'all got me through these crazy times in my life. It's that sort of stuff that really helps you be like, OK. This is what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah. They keep you going. Because the internet is so brutal, we tend to forget. Right. So every time we do, like, a live show, or even when I go out in public, like, I just got a Twitter lashing like a month ago over some silly shit. And it was just like, you know what? I'm off Twitter forever, but I really did. Because I'm done. Because there's so mean on there, right? So, like, you know what? Now, in my career, I'm going to focus being on the platforms where people really like me. That's what I'm talking about, right? So, let me get off of here. Because this is not beneficial to me at all. Right. And then it was so crazy. Because, like, literally, the next week, I had an event that I went, so I'm like, oh, people really like me in real life. So, if you spend all day on the internet, you tend to forget it. You know what I'm saying here? So, and obviously being a constant creator, 80% of our job is online when you're not touring. Sometimes you gotta go out and touch some grass. I don't touch some grass. I was like, girl, you're tripping, like, be for real. Like, people love you. You're okay. Right. I feel that same way. And, you know, it is-- it's just part of the human condition to focus on the things that are negative at this. And it's like, it could be 10% negative, 90% positive, and that 10% will bother you. Yeah, it will. And so, one thing that I've started to do is, like, when I get really sweet messages, DMs, emails or whatever, I'll screenshot them, and I put it in, like, a folder of, like, nice things that people have said. And so, when you've been online for a long time, or if you know Twitter got an attitude for whatever reason, like, It's just something to go back to and be like, okay, you know what, maybe right now, people not fucking with me, but in general overall, you don't get to have this career that spans years and years with an overwhelming amount of love and support. The love is definitely stronger than the hate, but we're only human beings. And we have a tendency to really focus on the things that aren't as positive, but I know y'all shows be lit. - They do. - They do. - They do. - Sold out to her in this economy. The girls love you for real. - They do. - They do. - I think it's been very highly anticipated because it's been so long, and then we were supposed to go on to her. I think in 2024, it didn't happen. We were supposed to go on in 2025. So we've been dropping all of these little niggies, and I think they just kept thinking, okay, they're about to drop teakies, and we didn't. - Now that we finally dropped them, they're like, oh, that's fun. - Bottom's so quick, so. I'm really excited because the outpouring of love has been so much, it's been so big, and I'm just grateful. I'm grateful that all of these people are excited, and they still fuck with us after all these years, and the tour is gonna be even bigger than it's been in the past. So it's a blessing, like you say, because the economy right now is hard for a lot of people. - Right, yeah. - I thought that same way when people for our anniversary show in Atlanta, which Niggas was drunk, and it was interactive with us, which you know, I love it, but it doesn't really translate well for other people to listen to. If you wasn't in the room, then you're like, oh my God, these niggas won't shut up. But it was like a fun vibe, you know, in person. But anyway, I just, the fact that with things being as hard as they are right now, and Trump and this damn war. - Oh, yeah. - It's like, you really win in your pocket when times are tight, to buy a ticket to see me. Like, there's no way I'm not grateful for that. Like, I'm overflowing with appreciation for that, 'cause it's been years of doing this, and you still really fuck with me like now. You look out at that audience to you, like, I'm just so grateful, like, thank you, Lord. - Yeah. - It really rock with me like this, though. 'Cause I mean, we see so many podcasts, or after us, and then they're already done. - Oh, I can't. - I mean, tell you how many. - I can tell you how many. - We gonna count. - Yeah, so it's beautiful to be doing it this long for sure. - It really is. What's been your favorite city to play? - Our favorite city. I always have to shout out to you, Susan Quares. - Oh, I love my sister. - Yeah. - The huge picture show is lit every time. It's nothing like being at home. So Houston, for sure, Detroit is always lit. - Yes, they are. - Yeah, Detroit is a lit city. And we didn't know what to expect the first time that we toured out there. 'Cause we had never actually been to Detroit before, but when I tell you, that was one of the best shows that we had of our last. - That came in first and lost. - Oh, my God. - That was a long, long picture. - We had shows in Detroit. - And be lit. - Yeah, that's exactly how that happened. - Yeah. - 'Cause majority of the families came from South Korea. - It's the same thing. - In Chicago, I feel like Chicago's obviously bigger, but it's the same vibe of like, it's just country, niggas, or something. - Yeah. - I feel that same way. - Chicago is one of our other favorite city to play. - Chicago shows are always lit too. - LL is lit too. - LL is lit. - LL is lit, yeah. So, I'm just excited to see everybody, but I feel like we don't ever have any like, city that's just like boring. - 'Cause now it's been lit. - It's like all the cities be lit. - You're gonna be lit. - Yeah, yeah. - We proud of you. - We proud of you. - Yeah, that's what it is. - We bring out the lit beach. - Yeah. - We used to do like college campus shows. And so sometimes those are a little weird, 'cause it's like, you know, the school is paying the fee. And so anybody can come in. - Yeah. - And it might just be that like, the 15 black students on campus wanted us to be there. - No, it's only 20 people at this show. - We're like, okay, this is a little awkward. - Yeah. - Right, but in general, you know, like your live shows will reflect the listening audience, you know, just the people who are fortunate enough to be able to make it. So the fact that y'all are able to go, you feel the warmth, you feel the love. That's something you have cultivated in your audience. So I hope you take a moment to really be proud of yourself and thank you. - To celebrate all your success and congratulations. - Thank you. - Thank you. - I'm sure things are only going up from here. Please tell the people where they can find you not. You can't go to a live show, child. (laughing) - What's up, cities? - I think we still have some of them. - Yes. - I think in like Fort Lauderdale, it's some tickets to lift in LA for sure, 'cause we just dropped those. - Yeah, we dropped to LA, yeah. - So LA, Fort Lauderdale, Detroit. And that's really, yeah, that's fine, that's fine. - So where can they get the tickets and find your show? - So you can go to www.poorminds.com so get your tickets there on sale right now. And then you can follow us on all platforms at Poorminds. It's P-O-U-R_M-I-N-D-S. - Yes. - Lex and Dre, thank you all so much for being on the show today. - Thank you. - This has been so much fun. - Anyway, man, I keep seeing y'all's clips, and when I asked people months ago, like, who show should I go on, or who should I go on? - That's what you're going to show the Poorminds. - You have to come on, or I should. - You have to come on Poorminds now. - You have to come on or I should. - What are you in that lemon? - But y'all came up with a lot of things. I just feel like you talking to those girls is like a vibe. I want to see it. So I'm just happy with that. We were able to make it happen. Thank y'all so much for being here and sharing your time with. - Thank you so much. - All right, y'all, that's going to wrap up this week's episode of Crystals Couch. Follow us online at Crystals Couch. And if you have a question for me, please send me an email, [email protected]. We'll see you next week.