The group reflects on a turbulent, emotionally charged month marked by mental health struggles, relationship breakdowns, and personal insecurities. They share candid stories about poor sleep, emotional exhaustion, and moments of crisis—like a failed trip to London or being gaslighted by a friend. A central theme is their use of playful language, especially the term "baby" for crushes, which becomes a creative tool for expressing emotional vulnerability. They also reveal how their emotional states are deeply interconnected, often rising or falling together, reinforcing their bond. The group discusses real-life dilemmas like using a romantic interest for emotional support, social media addiction, and difficult friendships. A pivotal moment involves betrayal by a close friend after a breakup, which intensifies their awareness of trust and loyalty. Despite the chaos, they find joy in shared experiences—like a memorable London trip and spontaneous fun—and reaffirm their friendship through rituals, journaling, and deep emotional honesty. Ultimately, they emphasize that while life can feel overwhelming, their mutual support and emotional openness provide strength and resilience.
[MUSIC] >> Well, you know my favorite question to ask the both of you. >> Are we started? >> Yes, sorry. >> We got three months. >> Hi, welcome to Therapist, right? We're- >> Welcome back to Therapist. >> Thank you, it's been a minute. >> It's been a minute. >> [LAUGH] >> Finally, so many comments, where are you guys? No invitation, don't know where we are. >> So how's your mental state? >> Horrible. >> Never been the ghost. >> It's giving- >> It's just, it's giving. >> It's god awful. >> It's god awful. >> It's what we had for lunch. >> Yeah, that clip just came up on my guitar. >> I never ordered it. >> What? >> You were ordered it. >> Report. >> Why? >> We looked horrible. >> [LAUGH] >> That post grad puff. >> [LAUGH] >> Like I'm gonna address the elephant. >> [LAUGH] >> I'm gonna pee my hands seriously. >> Sorry, no one talks about it enough. >> The post grad puff. >> Once again, we can cut this if we want. >> Well, I'm not cutting the post grad puff. >> You are walking around every second of every day, and then they're like boom, sitting in the office every single day, and you can't fucking move. >> You get a goldfish every 30 minutes. >> What do you have to do to pass the time, pretzels? That's it, goldfish. >> You snack the large. >> I would go to the kitchen every 15 minutes for my mental sanity. >> It's the only time I could touch my phone. It was my only time of joy, it's not getting. >> You're the one you got fired at the duolipa concert? >> Yeah, I did, but I didn't actually get fired. I was at the duolipa concert, and I took a meeting with Julia during work. And I blocked my counter. Honestly, it wasn't a meeting we did a photo shoot. >> [LAUGH] >> It was when I was doing content and my PR job at the same time. And I blocked my calendar and I didn't touch my phone for like an hour and a half. And I pick up my phone and I look at Julia and all I see is a meeting on my calendar that I missed. That was Severance Options. >> [LAUGH] >> And so we get back and he says, hey, I think I was just fired. And Julia was like, there's no fucking way. You couldn't be fired without, you can't just be fired and have Severance Options on your calendar. Turns out she was fired. >> So what did you do at work? >> What did I do? Like what? >> Really? >> What did your day to day look like? >> I worked in PR, I went to the fucking office, I opened my computer. I went three times a week, I would go Julia once a week, no and you would go at 11 a.m. That is true, I would go at 11, but three days a week. No, the last two, I would go to my office, I'd open up my computer. I would go on a walk with my three favorite co-workers, we would get a coffee, they would always go to Blank Street because they knew it was my favorite. >> Okay, yeah. >> But people do not talk about the post grab puff enough. >> All you do is eat goldfish. >> [LAUGH] >> And then you go home and you're like, wow, my day sucked. What can I do to make it feel better? >> Ew. >> What did you say? >> Like a good dinner for you. Holy fuck, my day sucked, what would make me feel better as smash burger? >> [LAUGH] >> And oh my god, I was up at 6.30 in the morning, like, what are you doing to work out? >> We used to start our days off by going to berries at 6 in the morning. >> I didn't believe that you would. >> We were first worked on us because we would go to berries. We wouldn't run, we would walk on the treadmill, and then we'd go. >> They had next to each other in text. >> [LAUGH] >> You wouldn't go. >> To be able to bake or you can get a bacon, I can cheese that for you. >> We would be like, well, we just worked out. >> So let's split a sandwich. Well, we burned maybe 30 calories. >> [LAUGH] >> We walked on the treadmill, and then we would text incline up question mark, not in the moon. >> [LAUGH] >> Would you actually? >> Flat three today. >> Flat three. >> No, no hills for me. >> [LAUGH] >> So yeah, those were the dark ages, hence why we reported the video. >> Pay your mind as Alcatraz. >> [LAUGH] >> My mind's a prison, surely, but. >> [LAUGH] >> My god, you're right. >> Should we talk about Halloween? >> Yeah, okay, so it was so over Halloween. >> [LAUGH] >> I know, but it's like the most relevant thing. That's not always relevant, but I just want to tell everyone I don't want to celebrate it again. >> [LAUGH] >> Really ever? >> Not really. >> Why? >> Were you upset that? >> I've never had a Halloween, it's just not for me to be like a hot- >> I mean I think I just get uncomfortable dressing up. >> I don't think I ever look hot, but I liked my costume this year. >> The snorting is like insane. That was like through the roof. >> [LAUGH] >> Yeah, what? Do you have a deviated sept? Oh my god, I do. >> Okay, I asked her this the other day, and it's like when you go like this, and then look on the side. >> Do I? >> Wait. >> What's wrong with me? >> Yeah, you can't breathe that out of either side. No, yeah, that one's the one that's deviated. >> So I do have a deep pain to do it. >> No, she doesn't, we already tried. >> [LAUGH] >> She's just fucking congested. >> So why are you so much? >> I just always am, congested. >> I hate that you're on this side, because this is the best side of my life. Like I want to be here. >> So what do you want to sit on each other's laps on the chair? >> No, I'm just like going to talk to the wall. >> [LAUGH] >> But I thought Halloween was fun this year. It's just like the thing about Halloween. It's like one of those holidays, like New Year's or whatever. Where there's a lot of pictures. >> I love New Year's. >> Did you love New Year's this year? >> Where were we? >> [LAUGH] >> I had an amazing New Year's this year. And New Year's was really important for me. >> I'm like, okay, I woke up on New Year's. I did a healing ritual, a healing from what? >> [LAUGH] >> You have a lot to heal from. >> No, but it's been especially dark recently, right? >> [LAUGH] >> Okay, so anyways, back to Halloween. >> [LAUGH] >> We thought it could be fun next year. >> Is it if we go somewhere? >> To go away somewhere like a nice like a cabin vibe and like play games and stuff. >> Right to how to get fucked up. >> What? >> With who? >> Us. >> Danny Quiet. >> [LAUGH] >> I had a lot of fun on my Halloween on Friday night and then Saturday I saw Phoebe Bridges. >> What, what, in concert? >> Yes. >> That's awesome. >> It was beautiful and amazing. >> We had to cut that like extremely quiet. >> They took our phones. Like they did a Chelsea hairmer. >> That's beautiful. >> Yeah, and into it. >> What's that? >> Where we thought of you Rodrigo. >> Remember you had to do the face thing and it was impossible to get in. >> They lived here. >> Yes, you were there because you and Brett, you guys all made TikToks without me while I was in my back house and I was so mad. >> What, you didn't tell us that you're mad. >> Oh, then I swallowed it. >> Yeah, what, that's weird. You could have just come upstairs. >> Well, I was in my back house. >> Right. >> Okay, I'm so fucking excited to see that concert. >> Yeah, that you're gonna, it's gonna be for you. What are you two therapist about today? You have to go each separately. >> I just walked to to get Julianna and Macha's and I got a brand new Puffercoat. I got a new Puffercoat and I really splurged on it myself and I was holding our Macha's and I ran into someone on the street and I spilt our green fucking Macha all over my brand new Puffer. >> Where's the Puffer from? >> I know you think you also think I have a shopping problem. >> Well, it's just, here's the thing. Coming from a shopper. >> Well, that's why I'm surprised to hear it from you. >> Coming from a shopper. It's like an incessant need every day you open your eyes and you say I need to buy something. Like, what about, there's something I'm really like looking forward to buying or like, I'm spontaneously out and I found this awesome piece. It's like, you just buy to buy. It scares me a little. No, it's the only thing that brings me joy. >> I know the feeling. >> It's horrible. >> It's horrible. It's a horrible thing. >> It's horrible. >> I have it too. >> It's the only thing that brings me joy. >> Yes, same. You look really cute right now. >> Thank you. >> So cute. >> I love those shoes. >> So much. >> They're just amazing. >> They're amazing. >> They're amazing. >> They're amazing. I'm actually trying to think what I'm therapist about today. Did you like my answer? I mean, that's a perfect answer. I would be really pissed too. >> It fucking sucked. Like, I call the dry cleaner immediately. >> I'm pissed, oh, you want to know what I'm pissed about, it's not today, but I went out the other night in my Haley Gap jeans and I sat on gum. >> That sucks. >> And those are the best, best, best jeans. What? >> Can you get that out? >> Can you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What are you there pissed about? >> I didn't get a lot of sleep. Our sleep sucked. You know it's bad. You know it's bad. I had a text from Julia at 2.15. Are you still up? When I come in, I was like, oh no. >> Let's talk about our new vocab. >> Okay. So we have a bunch of new vocab actually. >> I think the biggest one is baby. Like we are calling our crushes our babies. >> It makes it so fun. So you're like number one crushes your baby number one. >> And then it's like baby number two. >> Baby number three, like little crushes here and there, like kind of my baby. So like he could be my baby, like we'll be like, it's time to go to dinner or like I want to go to dinner at XYZ because like my baby's going to be there. >> Yeah. Or like we have to text our baby. It's like let's face our baby. >> Well, my baby wants nothing to do with me. >> Of course. You think my baby wants anything to do with me? Well, that's also like part of the fun, like most times like your baby doesn't like you back. >> And that's why it's like, you think my baby is my actual baby. But the best part about this bit is like once you get involved in like the baby, every single song under the sun has the word baby in it. But like in like a way that makes it so fun, like Taylor Spiro, not my baby, I'm his. >> He's not my baby, I'm his. What about the Taylor Swift song we're obsessed with? >> My baby likes what he likes. - He likes and he likes me. (laughing) - We were so, okay, now let's get to the-- - Our favorite one, stuck by Drake. Me and my baby split up, but that doesn't mean that we're broken up. - You said that one with your chest. - Me and my baby split up, but that doesn't mean that we're broken up. - You said that constantly. - Oh, I said, me and my baby split up, but that doesn't mean that we're breaking up. 'Cause what? It doesn't. - It doesn't. - Me and my baby split up. I mean, I wake up to tax for my baby here and there. - Yeah, and what? And what? - No, he knows I like him, so that's where I'm at. - And when that happens, don't they always, (laughing) they always know with the babies, you put the babies, the highs are high, and the lows are low. - The lows are low. - And it flips like a switch. - I mean, I just wanna keep it a buck. Like, I did think at one point this year, I think we all had our darkest moments this year. - When? - How's mine come? - Pay in. - Pay in? - Yeah, you're right, holy fuck. (laughing) - Me and my baby split up. (laughing) - But that doesn't mean that we're breaking up. - I thought at least at one point, okay, let's play a game. - What point in the year? We all go around and say it for each other. Did we think that you were, like that genuine, real, real genuine, like we thought you were gonna have to be sent away. - Oh, this is fun. - Okay, so we can start with me to make it easy. - For me. - Okay, I thought we were gonna have to send you away. - This past month, about a month ago. - I was gonna say. - No, I was gonna say, I thought we had to send her away. - Wait, no, last month. - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. - Actually, that's her, I said. - Yes, last month, I thought. - I said, I'm getting to a point where I'm very worried. - Uh-huh, I thought we were gonna have to send you away. - And worried you should be. (laughing) - Are you ready for this one? - Wait, when was mine? - Last month. - Yeah, that is I agree. - No, no, no, but pick a new one, just for fun. - Okay. - What about me? - When I called you and you had just landed from Ibiza. - I don't know. - And I said, make sure you book your ticket for London 'cause we're going to this wedding. - Did I scream? - Julia. (laughing) - Good morning. - I, you called me, I said, you said, okay, I'll put my flight. And then you called me back, I said, hey, you said, and now I'm standing with fucking pain. So if you want us to fucking go to the fucking wedding, you fucking tell us. (laughing) - Ibiza was bad for my mental health. It was good in the moment and then afterwards, it was bad. - I'm too stunned to speak. (laughing) - I just snapped, okay. - I thought. - We all have ice nap. - We're gonna have to send her away. (laughing) - A few times. (laughing) - But just to switch it up, I will say last February when she got home from Milan. If I should leave. (laughing) - She had been alone a few days too long. (laughing) It was very irritable. (laughing) - I lost my shampoo in a real way. - What do you call us? - Wait, wait, like. (laughing) - She was scared, I think. - Cause me and we'll be at the door, like, wait, I don't know what happened. (laughing) I feel like it's fine. (laughing) - I'm gonna be my man. (laughing) - Okay, my turn, my turn, my turn. When did you think you had to send me away? - Every other day, pretty much, pretty much every morning when I receive attacks from you, I think he needs to go away. - There has to be one. - I can't pick out of all the, all the many. - Real psychosis. - Oh. - There was one really recently. - Like, what was my worst crash out? Like, what was my, like, oh my god, like, this is. When was the worst crash out? Like, really and truly, it's me, Pey and Julia, Manny. Like, you were like, he, a real change needs to come of this year, of this past year. - Oh my god, I have one. - What? - Ugh. (laughing) We were away. - We tried to see God. - We were away in Lake. - Whatever. - Oh yeah. - And you lost your shit. - I wanna branch it. - Oh, you wanna know what it was? I'll tell you right when it was, I was in Paris, and I was upset. - Paris was bad for you. (laughing) - Paris was bad for you, it was bad for me. - It was just the heat wave, I was alone, and (beep) texted me, he was trying to be nice. And he said, you only give 10%. And I said, what? Like, he was trying to be like, look at all you, a couple, which was just 10% and I said, what the fuck are you talking about? - Right. - I might give 10%, which, I probably give five. (laughing) - I was gonna say, he might be right. - Yeah. - And he was right. - This gray hair looks, makes your eyes look really blue. - I love it, honestly. - Really? - Thank you. - And where you want to use that? - Nothing, never mind, I love you. - Love you. - So what are you therapist about? You never said? - I don't sleep well. - You're sleep sucked? - I'm therapist because, like, I'm just therapist. - I made a lot of bad decisions this weekend, and I'm just like pissed about it. Yeah, like, we'll leave it at that. I fucked up. - Pilly? - Yeah. - You drank out of a water fountain? - I drank out of a water fountain. - That part, I drank out of a water fountain, that is good. So yeah, that's what I feel most therapist about. It's like, what do I have to do that? - Okay, out of all natural disasters, which ones do you guys think you could survive? - Oh, if my crush was there any? - How would your crush being there help you? - 'Cause I could survive anything if I had a crush there. - I just like, I work in high pressure. - Hey, you do. - She's amazing, very resourceful. Oh my god, Jake, one time made me watch this movie. What the fuck was that movie called? - Which one? - And it had, like, the most insane rating on Braun Tomatoes, like, in a negative way. You made me and Brett watch it. It was about all these natural disasters. - I hate every show in movie that Jake likes. - No, this one was particularly unwet. Like, this one was bad. - Was it the one where they got stuck on the boat? - No, it was, like, about all these Brett will remember. - What? - No. - Yes, it was Greenland. - No, it wasn't. - How many what's wrongs? - We're doing that? - What? - Of course, what? - It's just, is this an intro? - No, this is an episode. - What? (laughs) - Wait, seriously? - Please! - Oh, my favorite, my favorite, my favorite. - That was the worst movie I've ever seen. - Wait, what? Why did I think this was an intro? - No, no, it's an episode. - Oh my god. (screams) - Yes, babe. - Oh my god, should we talk about the candle? Okay, so as we told you guys, we have lost the plot this month. In our friend group, it really goes in waves, and usually-- - Sometimes we're like very, it's lost. - Coachella, we were up, up, up, up, up, up, up. - Oh, everyone's vibes are usually very aligned. So either everyone's down or everyone's up, everyone's manic, everyone's not. Everyone's manic. This is just a horrible month. - We all had babies at the time. - We had prospects of babies. Like, we were like, oh my god, my baby, my baby, my baby. - My baby, my baby. - I was like, okay, like, pain's baby, my baby, Jake's baby, maybe we, maybe we each had a few babies. So what we did-- - We did have a few babies down. - We said, listen girls, gather around. Our words are powerful. - So we wrote them down on a piece of paper. - So we wrote what we wanted from our babies down. - Payons, thing was like a paragraph. - Coachella, I had multiple babies. - My baby, it was about one baby. - No, it wasn't babe. - There were multiple babies. - Three. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - Yeah, lots of babies. - I got greedy, that's why I didn't work. (laughing) - And we said a chance, like we were-- - We gathered around, we wrote by hand, 'cause you know, pen to paper, pen to paper, all the things we wanted out of our babies. - Pen to paper? - Yeah, pen to paper, like manifesting. - Okay. - And then we gathered around, go on, Jake. - We held hands and we said the chance that we wrote down over and over again. - We chanted out our wishes. - Over a candle. - Over a flamingo estate tomato candle. That says burn during Sunday burrito time. (laughing) - And then we took the paper and burned it in the candle. (laughing) - So now we have this candle with just like letters all over it. - It has like an acid. - But I just want you guys to know that we weren't like down. At the time, we were just like kind of like hoping for the bad. - You know what, let's put some stuff in the fine, honestly. - Life that weekend. - The candle ruined everything. (laughing) - That fucking candle was sinister. - Sinister. - Sinister. - I think we all greedy. I don't know, like, I know I got greedy. - Honestly, you guys, if you are an OG listener, the man that I was crashing out over like a year ago, and the one who left me at the club, we are in a beast at this summer. I get a DM from his best friend in my requests. - Thank you. - What's that? - What request? - Hit in or regular? - I think hit it. - Hmm, deaf regular. (laughing) - I'm not even gonna lie to you. Like, we have mutuals that's right there. - Okay, continue. - And it said bleeps as high. We are in Santa Fe. I will buy you a flight here. What, it's like, let's unpack that. - How disrespectful. - Did you consider it? - No. Are you guys for real? It was this summer. You guys think I have zero fucking self-respect? (laughing) - Did you consider it?
-Did you consider it? -I am going to take a long lap. -Did you consider, I would have considered it? -No. -Well, she wasn't going to leave me, but in other circumstances. -We were in other circumstances. -In other circumstances, think she could have left. -If she came out the door right now. -No, I know. -She wouldn't. -She wouldn't. She really wouldn't. -Right now? [laughter] Oh, please. Anyway, so rude. -That he offered to buy you a flight? -Oh, but the best part is, there were three messages. Blink says, "Hi. Can I buy you a flight to Santa Fe?" The third message is, "Are you going to talk about this on the podcast?" -Oh! -Yeah, that's the best part. -That's the best listening. They're always listening. -Damn. -Now I am. -Did you not know about that story? -He just doesn't listen. -I don't listen. Well, yes, I'm going to talk about it. -I said to someone today, I was like, "Oh, like, you know, because I've been taking stuff to sleep." I was like, "I fit in this. The weed, like I think it's been making my memory get lost." They looked at me and I said, "You just don't listen." -Yeah, you don't. It's okay. -It's okay. -Everyone has their things. -Okay. Ready? Tell me what's wrong. T-T-M-W-W-W. -I have this axe that is still obsessed with me, and we talk a lot. But I am totally open to endating other guys. I do feel like if he wasn't obsessed with me or talking to me, I'd be really trying to lock down a relationship ASAP. I feel bad that I'm using him as sort of my emotional fluffer. Is this considered leading him on or is it hip on him? -Uh, listen. Yeah, speak up. -Sounds like a water fountain situation. -Yeah. -So you are using him as a emotional fluffer? -Is it normal? And is it a part of life? -Absolutely. -Yes. -And you are valid. -And just, you know what? Think about it. -You're also a girl. You can do whatever you want. -Right. I was going to say they would do it to you in so much worse. -That is true. -That's true. -Exactly. Like, every time I'm like. -Sometimes you get thirsty, you have to go to the water fountain. -You have to. -It's true. -You have to. -Okay. Next. I'm literally a child when it comes to my palate. -Like eating? -Well, cocktails are gross and strong. Stake is too chewy. And like, fish I just can't. So what do you eat? My favorite meal is literally chicken nuggets and Chick-fil-A sauce. And my favorite drink is Dr. Pepper. I'm so picky beyond this too. And it makes going out with friends to nice restaurants at Nightmare. 26, by the way. Like, I need to grow up. Yeah. -I'm not a picky eater if you guys are thinking that. -No, I don't. -No, no. -But just like get a glass of wine and call it a day. -Or like. -Ask the restaurant. Restaurants, if you're. Also, if you're saying you're going out to a nice restaurant, they are so accommodating. Ask them to make you a butter with pasta. -Well, I'm just more like, grow up. Or. -Yeah, or that. -Yeah, okay. -Okay, of course. Next. -This one's for you, Pei. -Oh. I have been drowning in Sunday's Gary's for the last six months and genuinely don't know what to do anymore. I love going out with my girls and don't want to stop, but it's gotten to the point where I regret every single interaction I have after a night drinking. Yeah, so this is happening to me right now. My friends all say I'm exaggerating. We don't say that to you. -Right. -But I can tell they are just trying to make me feel better. We don't do that to you. -Uh-huh. -No. -We never. Every time, we're like. But I told you I was having scary about these things I keep remembering that happened on Saturday and you keep telling me it's fine. -Because she's a great friend. -Because I truly think it's fine. Sometimes my behavior is not fine. At all. Yeah. Listen, we've been saying, actually recently, that Sundays used to be like our special day. We were like, "You guys remember Junde?" Like, fuck. These times, like that was the time to be alive. I am literally so anxious every fucking Sunday. We sit on opposite ends of the couch, we look at each other, we acknowledge each other for 10 seconds, we look at each other, we shake. We usually cry at like seven. Go back down to our phones, send each other a funny meme. And then we. It has been getting the funniest meme. Are you guys real on Reels or TikTok? Yo, I've been scrolling Reels. -Reels about it. -I've been doing my explore page on Instagram. -No, no, no. -And I've been hitting Reels. -Reels could will. -Looked over my shoulder. Last night, I said, "Are you scrolling Reels?" And they said, "It's where it's at." -It's where it's at. -It's where it's at. -It's where it's at. -It's where it's at. Instagram Summer, I will say. -Oh, I want to know when an Instagram fall too. -Always. -I think so too. -I don't know when I saw it yesterday. It was really funny. I've been getting. I've been getting. the like rainbow backgrounds with like six white words on it. And I saw one today. I'm on some shit Jehovah hasn't witnessed. -That one took us out. -We can't say that. -No, I just. -He didn't think it was funny. -I didn't think it would. You sent it to me. -What? Fuck you then. So yeah, we have been going out a lot, which have been making our Sundays very scary. And with the baby of it all, like, we've lost our babies. It's like a lot. Like, it's just. -I don't think you've lost your babies. Our babies are in the. We're in the gutter right now. -Your babies are taken by child protective services right now. -All we do is get played, you know. -Oh, I'm. -There is constantly. I'm being played. -Always. -We are constantly getting played in our mother-fucking-faces. -Can you guys read them? -Ooh, this one sounds fun. Okay. My boyfriend, his best friend, and the best friend's girlfriend, who is also one of my close friends. -Wait, what? -My boyfriend, his best friend, and the best friend's girlfriend. -Got it. -Who is her friend? All took a shower together after a night out. Where were you? Okay. The next day, they casually told me about it. -Oh, they were talking about their night. -Wait, wait, wait. This girl that's writing in wasn't there. Her boyfriend, his best friend, and the best friend's girlfriend. -Thanks for your shower. -They've had three women. -The next day, they casually told me about it while they were talking about their night. I pulled my boyfriend aside and told him I wasn't comfortable with what happened, and he totally guessed it. My friend, the one in the shower, is also gas-setting me, and telling me it's not that big of a deal. Am I blowing this out of proportion? -No! -No! -That is not fucking normal. -Oh, my God, I would be so-- -She cheated, your boyfriend cheated on you. -I would be so angry. -Also, why is your boyfriend getting in the shower with his best friend and his girlfriend? That's very weird. -I think. -Three, they had three women. -Three women. -Yo, also, why didn't they want you included rude? -That's the point. -Yeah, that's what she's writing. -Oh, I feel bad for the poor girl. How can you even gas light? You are not blowing this out of proportion. I would go off and go off. -Let's let her go off. -The proportion would have been so gunned. -Okay, I want to be the friend. -Okay, you're the friend. -I'm the friend in the shower. -Okay, I'm your boyfriend. -You're my boyfriend. -No, no, no, no, no. You are the girl who's writing. -So you come to me and then you come up like, we'll play a game. Ready? -Okay, what's your name? Jack? -I don't know. I'm a girl. I'm a girl. -No, she's the girl. -She's the friend. I'm the girlfriend. You're the boyfriend that's gaslighting me, being like, it's fine. -We're here for her. We're on your side. -Jack, I'm so upset that you took a shower with Lucy and Alex. -Wait, why? -Why would you get naked with my best friend and your best friend? -Because we're all friends. -But, like, what are you guys talking about? -Keep going, keep going. -I just got involved. -She's, do you want to tell her? -I just think it's weird that you would get naked in front of my. -Why? -Why? -Okay, like, I see where you're coming from. They're really gaslighting. -Why? -You don't see the issue there? -Wait, it's your boyfriend and my boyfriend. -Why is that the issue? Like, if this was me and Pete, and I'm not sure I would care. Same. -Okay, but this girl, like, it sounds like you care. -But we're like that. Like, we don't like the same guy as ever. -Yeah. -Different types. -Different types. -Different strokes for different folks. -And I know that's right. -Like, I'm Payton's type, dirty. -Yeah. -Like, if Payton saw Jake in the street. -A few inches taller. -She would pass out. -Pass out. -Pass out. I like them. Tows. A buzz cut. -Next question. -My boyfriend thinks doing the bare minimum, making the bed, keeping the house clean, making a dinner reservation, is going above and beyond. -That is above and beyond. -But that was me when I don't thank him and essentially give him praise. He's an only child, so this ultimately checks, but at the same time, am I just settling help? -That was my boyfriend. I'd be like, "Thank you so much. I love you." -I mean, if he is contributing and like. -Making dinner reservations, doing the bed, you don't say, "Thank you." -That is nice. -That is nice. We want him to leave. -I mean, Deft say, "Thank you." -I mean, I once read, tell me what's wrong of somebody that peed in a bucket. Like that, her boyfriend made her pee in a bucket. -Wait, why would someone do that? -Because their dog was upstairs, and they didn't want the dog to bark. So they said, "Pee in a bucket." -Wait, okay. -I feel like your boyfriend is doing nice things. -Yeah, maybe we're not privy. -I don't like that he's making her feel bad for not praising him. These are definitely. -Well, he's running a nice date. Why isn't she saying, "Thank you." -Is that insane? -Manny, what do you think? Take the mic. -Of course. Also, what does he do? He makes her dinner and what? -Making her dinner as my room. -I think, "Thank you" is more than enough. -Yeah. -Same. I don't think you should praise him. -Thanks, babe. -Yeah, thanks. -Thank you. -I love that dinner. -Well, I think for dinner, maybe there's more effort in that. So it's like, "Oh, thank you so much for making dinner. It was so good." -Or like, "Thank you for. " -But like, you made a dinner rise. -Oh. -You have an app on your own. -Okay, then, yeah, just to thank you. -But it's like, that's taking her out on a date. -Just say, "Thank you." -Yeah, "Thank you." you don't agree.
I think it's necessary at all hours of the day. You say thank you for everything. - Manny, what are you therapist about? - That my friend is making me go to Brooklyn tonight instead of her coming here. - Brooklyn's kind of words out though, I can't lie. - Brooklyn is the coolest part of me. - No, I know I just don't want to-- - But when you don't live there, like it is far. - It's far. - It's far. - So why don't you just see Harry yourself and cancel? - Well, 'cause I want to see her. - Oh. - What else has gone on since we last been on this show? - A lot. - Thinking of things that have happened to us. - Anywho, my boyfriend and I broke up about a month ago due to long distance. And last week, I just found out that he already hooked up with someone through a friend. That is too quick. For what was a nice meeting? - What, no we forgot. - This like completely ruined that. And now I don't know if we should continue being friends or not. What do you think? - Well, I don't think a friend's clearly is not an option if you're upset with him hooking up with someone after one month. - Uh, like, like yeah, I get it. - I respect for you if I have a boyfriend. And we break up. And I hook up with someone the next week, the next day, we are not together. - Yeah. - We're not together. - I know, but like. - But you don't think he didn't do anything wrong. But like, that's over a month. It's like, yeah, like fuck, like it sucks, but like it's kind of valid. Would I be upset if I'm in your position? Like absolutely. - Absolutely. He didn't do anything wrong. - But like, friendship does not seem to be the path for you too. - But I feel like you just shouldn't be friends with the next. - But like, you can't talk to your best friend anymore. Like, that's your best friend. - That's a bad thing that happens. - Yeah, fuck. - I love my sister so much, but I do not feel like it is reciprocated. She's addicted to her phone and never initiates anything or asks me about my life. How do I get her out of this boring ink-steafaze and get her to hang out with me? That sounds like us. (laughing) I feel like that's just like deep love. - I also think that's deep love. - Yeah. - But like, also like-- - Like, it's your sister. She loves you. - And phone%. - I'm addicted to my phone. I saw somebody make a TikTok today that said, "It's iPhone." - My phone. - My phone. - I am the phone. - My phone. - My phone. - Actually, let me play the TikTok for you guys. - Wait, oh my God, on Saturday, apparently. (laughing) I was just on the phone with Amelia. And she said that on the way back from the Halloween party, me and Payton were walking so slow, so slow in our heels, our heads and our phones, to the point where the boys wouldn't even walk at our pace anymore, because it was so outrageous the pace we were moving. - Who are you texting if not each other? - Great question, first of all. She said, "We were walking like this." - That's just on you. - That's just on you. - And the boys were like at first trying to be like, "Okay, like it's really late at night, like let's make sure they're okay." And they said it was so outrageous that they thought we were pulling a prank on them. - Right. - So me and Payton tried to pull a prank on everyone on Saturday. - Oh gosh. - And we started, we were like, this is gonna be really funny. Like let's make everyone really uncomfortable and just start like screaming at each other and pretending to get in like a really big fight. - We were like at the dinner table. And I was like, "I was like, I was like, "Fuck you, you're so fucking stupid." She said something like really outrageous to me back. - Like really outrageous. - Like we were going out at each other. We thought like everyone was gonna be like, "So uncomfortable whatever." - Holy fuck, like what's happening? - Cassidy looks at us. Looks at the rest of the room and goes, "You know they're therapists, they're best friends. That's the issue here." - You're therapists are best friends. - Yeah. - How do you even know that? How was it even allowed to know that? - Because I told Payton you really need a therapist. It's getting to the point where I have to not, I have to put a professional in. - Thank God. - So I run my therapist up and I said, "You got any racks?" And she said, "My best friends at therapists." I said, "This is perfect." It's perfect. - We actually think all the time. Like do you think that they talk about us? I was in therapy last week and I-- - But then I was like, here's the thing. We put ourselves in their shoes 'cause we were like, if we were therapists, I would talk. - And we had clients that were best friends. - I don't know. - Imagine being our therapist. We would be like, "Oh shit, guess what this bitch said this week." - Right? - But then that's why we would never be therapists because therapists take their work so seriously. I know they're not talking about it. - Yeah, I hopped on therapy last week and I was like, I don't know if this is a hip evaluation but I have to ask, do you get excited for our sessions? 'Cause what the fuck is gonna come out of my mouth? - What'd she say? - She was like, "I mean, yeah." And I was like, "And the people I'm talking about, you have to admit it's entertaining." (upbeat music) - Diary time, 8/21/26. Dear Diary, all I do is self-pity. (laughing) I literally don't even try. 7/1/26. Dear Diary, the summer blues have humbled me. (laughing) It's the same way I feel when it's too cold out. My body dissociates, that's it. (laughing) - The summer blues have humbled me, right. - I've never felt more lonely in my life. - Me? - I have to stop smoking and eating. - Wait, actually, I'll tell you a good story about being humbled for a quick. So, set the scene. We're at the club in New York. So something happens to me and like, listen, we all know I cry a lot. - All the time. - And I'm, well, tanniously, something is happening to me. So, we all know I cry a lot. But like, on a night out, like, I'm not crying. Like, honestly, no, really, honestly. Like, it's rare that that happens. I'm actually, I think, a happy drunk. So whatever, I'm a happy drunk. Like, I can't stop smiling. The veins popping out of my forehead. Like, it's just, like, I'm happy. I'm happy when I'm drunk. So something happens to me. - Don't you ever want to take the vein out? Just like, oh. - I wish it wasn't there, but bothers the shit out of me. - I hate my vein. I hate my fucking forehead. - I hate my vein. - And it's popping out all the time. Like, I can't imagine what it looks like when I'm like, talking to my crush, and I'm like. - Oh, it's not there right now. - Yeah. - It's like a, it's like a forced smile right now, anyway. - Wait, try. Harder. Yeah, there, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - Any apps. - Any apps. - Maps, maps. So, I'm just like, one of my babies, like, basically, just like, says something outrageous to me. And I'm like-- - Oh, I know what you're talking about. - I'm like, oh, holy hell, okay. Let me go find my girl. I scooch on up next to her. There's no room to move in this club. No room. Okay, no room. I go like this. I'm here. Cheshaw. I squeeze, you know, the squeeze. Words like I could have cut her circulation off. I said, pay in. My baby just did XYZ. We gotta get the fuck out of here. I'm holding back the tears in a railway. So, she says, no, bitch, you're never gonna believe what just happened to me. - We got to get the fuck out of here. - We're arm and arm. We're hands and hands. - We're looking at each other. - We're, we're fight, like, there's, you know, and the bubble tears start to bubble up in her eyes. Like, in a railway. And I'm like, hold it and hold it. And like, we're almost out the door. Like, the Uber is right there. First of all, it's pouring right outside. It's, of course. It's a torrential downpour outside. So, we leave whatever. And we're like, did we, did we walk in the rain? We walked in the rain. We walked in, oh, no, we dropped, we dropped, we dropped off Amelia. And then we were like, we can just walk from here. It's pouring rain. I'm in a Swade Saint Laurent jacket. And I said, I don't even care. Let me, let me get it ruined because like, life has no purpose right now. - The Swade really ruined in the water. - Yeah, not the point. (laughing) - Julia and I said, holy fuck, we need a cigarette. So, we sit down on a stoop. - In the rain. - In the rain. (laughing) - Imagine, we are hysterically sobbing. - How did I not know about this? 'Cause I don't listen. - No, we actually didn't tell anyone, like, you're the first time. - It was that bad. - Because it was like, this was our darkest day. - When was this? - Three weeks ago. - A month ago. - A month ago. - Yeah. - We sit down. We gotta cigarette out. - In the rain. - We're just hysterically sobbing. My jacket, I'm never gonna be able to wear that jacket again. All of a sudden, a stranger, his name is Connor, walks by. Take it from here. He said, do you mind if I sit with you? We said, absolutely not, please sit down. He then is like, what is wrong? - You don't understand. - There's black streaks down both of our faces. - Oh, what's wrong? - He's like, what's wrong? And we were like, we got into a fight with our babies at the club, like, it was just, like, so tears. And he was like, we hope that these guys are so, he goes, I hope that these guys are so fucking hot because you guys are perfect, and we go, they are. (laughing) Like, they're worth it. - Yeah. - Like, you think we're trying for nothing? - No, I would tell you. - Connor, we are not crying over spilled milk, okay? (laughing) I am just gonna say, we are crying over great potential. - And what do you call on her side? - You didn't give a fuck. He was just like, thank you for the cigarette. - And then we said, we have to go home and wait, it's just too dark over here. Enjoy your night. Now should we talk about a high London? - And then we fell in a sleep in bed, holding hands. - We don't really touch each other. Fell asleep in bed, holding hands. Put on the summer, I turn pretty, yeah. - Dark. - Now let's talk about London. - So much fun. - Best weekend of our lives. - My first time across the pond. (laughing) So much fun in London, like, actually, that was my favorite weekend of summer. - The Alice Club, there is 10 out of 10. - Unbelievable, I was like, high on life in London. - 10 out of 10 shopping, 10 out of 10 food. - All of us looked amazing at every point of the trip. - That's true. - Oh, and I self-styled. - You looked, that, yeah. - I'll fit you into the welcome party. It was like 11, you looked unbelievable. - Yeah, you looked so good. Like, honestly, like, I did my, we did our own makeup that weekend. - Yeah. - It was like, it looked professional. - You did not do your own air though. Let me tell you that much.
- No, of course we didn't. - We loved it. - And the last thing we were in my hair, you. - People are so mad about that. - I know, they were really funny. - I didn't even think it was not big of a deal. - And you know that little jingle you saying, right in the city in my back. - Yeah. - Oh, he's in my back. - You've never heard that song? - No, you can't. - Right in my city in my back all day, 'cause I'm certainly in my eyes. - No, this is me in my back. - Poor's water on my head. And it's all, I hear it like in my head all day. I haven't heard. - The room service was a 10. - Oh my God, I'm sorry, I'm starving right now. - Where do you want to go, Paid Blue Ribbon? - Yeah, I'll go to Blue Ribbon. - Should we get it Italian? - I want that. - So London was perfect. We had the best time and we ended. - It was so fun. - We went to the box. Oh my God, I have a good story. Okay, so we're at the box in London. Try 'em in, if I'm like telling any part incorrectly. I, we overdid it at the welcome party. Like we did it our business. - I said we need to abolish welcome parties. - We just like did our biggest on Friday. - That was our three thoughts, 'cause I said I want a table at the box. - Right, let's go to the box. - Tables, we got. - We were so fucked up. You guys, we've been getting really fucking drunk and like I want to. - But I not take blackout like I used to get. - No, I'm not blocking out. I'm like only forgetting like a little things. I will say my therapy last week. My therapist said just something for us to be curious around. You're drinking. Is that what? She said not that it's a problem, but like let's just stay curious about it. - What else are we supposed to do? - What? Stay curious about my drinking. Mayhaps not. - Next. - Okay, so we're at the box. - We're at the box. It's the welcome party. - I mean like tequila shot tequila shot. Like we were like doing our biggest. - Our biggest. - Our biggest. - So our biggest. - I'm sitting with Matt, like at one of the tables and I see this lovely girl like standing in front of me. She's talking to one of our friends. It's a big like family affair this wedding. And I'm like, oh, I noticed. I'm like this girl looks so lovely. Like of course I don't recognize that it's my best friend because I am black out drunk. But I'm like, do you not know this, Ray? What a nice like lovely looking girl. Like she must be having the best time ever. Like I see her, she's moving and grooving. All of a sudden it wasn't like she took a step and fell. It wasn't like she something happened. Someone bumped her all of a sudden. It was as if the floors opened up. The floors opened up and being fell through them. - Yeah. - So this girl just, she falls. Like she literally, it doesn't, nothing happens. She just, all of a sudden she's down on the ground. - And it was you. - And it was me. - It's me with us. (laughing) - No, but you ain't see it. - She must have broken an ankle. (laughing) - I was covered in alcohol. And I was staying at one of our best friend Ali's and Ali turns to Julian goes. She's fucking shower. - Oh, do you guys know how Ali answers the phone? - Yeah, hello. - No, hi. - Hi. - Hi. - Wait, can one of you call her and see what she says? - Hi. - Hi. - Yes. - He did it. He said. - You want to call. - He said call Ali and see how she picks up the phone. - Hi. - Hi. - Obviously it's gonna be high. - Hi. - We're talking about London, Ali. - Do you remember when Peyton wapes out at the box? - Yes, when he ate shit and was swimming in vodka. (laughing) - Swimming in vodka on the floor. Swimming. Oh, you've gotta come back here, Ali. - Please. - You're on therapist right now. Anything you gotta say? - I'm welcome. I'm a therapist. (laughing) You got anything for us? - Hi. (laughing) - What was the highlight of your stay with me and Peyton last weekend? - Ooh, good question. (laughing) - Was it your one? - It's my highlight. - Or was it just the lows? - There's a few lows. - I mean, it was just comedy, I don't think I can pinpoint one. - Okay, what was your favorite memory from, what was your favorite memory of our trip to London together? - Ooh, that's a good one. - I feel really on the spot right now. - You got nothing, huh? - Probably trying caffeine era. I'm realizing how repulsive it was. - Yeah. - You guys hyping it up so much. - It's unbelievable. - It's the best coffee in the world. - It's the best coffee ever. - The best drink I've ever had. - One's probably one of the worst drinks I've ever had. - Unbelievable. - You are so the odd man out here. - So for Black Friday, we're doing-- - This is so cute. - It's our pus mystery box gummies. - Okay, so the options are blue, pink, and light pink. And then you might get the rare octopus. - Which is purple. - Okay. - I don't know how-- - Well, I want the purple one. Don't you know about how I'm obsessed with purple these days? - Yeah. - It's my new color, okay? And there's also a box of sour pus in here. - Yeah. - It's the, okay, go sit. - Oh, I'm-- - No! - Yes, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Ready? Okay, so, and the rare one is the purple one. - I pray to God I get the purple one. - Honestly, I'm good. Well, do you like Rachel's right now? - It's no here. Okay, ready? - No, no, I'm not ready, I'm not ready. I'm not ready. I have a feeling I'm getting purple. - Really? It's hard to get purple, it's the rare one. Ready, close your eyes. And we'll open up three. - One, fuck, I have to get-- I open it to you. Let's pull it out. Ready, one, two, three. - One, two, three. - No one got purple. - Okay, if I like this little thing. - Same, I love it. I'm about to you, who's it? - I know it's cute, right? - Oh, wow. - Look, it fits in like the max, same thing like perfectly. - Hmm. - Hmm. - Love that little thing. - Okay, do we have any more, tell me what's wrongs? - I'm doing big time. - Okay. - So here's my situation. Essentially, a few years ago, I had a summer, I turned pretty moment. And I did it to brothers almost back to bed. - How do you have a fiddle with my dream? - The older brother and I broke things off, and the younger one and I remained friends. The older brother is trying to make a comeback. Do you think it's a bad idea? The younger one liked me first and liked me a lot more, and I never really felt the same. But since we're still-- - Oh, it's like a full summer. - But since we're still cool, IDK if that would be so mean in evil, please let me know. And then she gave me the number. - Yeah, that's amazing. - Can I call her? - Yeah. - See what they look like of course. - When you have finished recording, you may end. - What's your name, we don't know. - Hi, it's Jake. - Julia. - MPN. - We got your message about the summer. - Your summer, I turned pretty moment. - We're so curious and jealous. - Wait, did she say that the older brother? - It's coming back. - It's coming back. - It's Conrad, older. - It's your Conrad moment. - Oh, go back to him, obviously. - It is your Connie and baby moments. - As you know, you're living our dream girl, so we're very different. - Right, like Jeremiah was also nicer to Belly, but that doesn't mean he was the one. - Exactly. And then Conrad came back full swing and I am team older. However, I am curious as to what they both look like because let's be real. I'm just curious. - Yeah, well, you have to do-- well, it seems like the older ones hotter. - I don't know, she wouldn't get specifics on that. - Okay, we'll just-- - She was never that into the younger ones, so like-- - Same with Belly and Jeremiah. - Uh-huh. - Yeah, you're not babe. - Yeah, you're not. - Go for the older one and just like-- - Love your best. - Just live your best life. There's only one life, like-- - Live your best. - Live your best. - We love you. - Love you. - Okay, well, you guys, what did we learn today? - We learned that we might be in a dark place. - We are. - We learned. - But we have each other. - Jake, we're out of my mouth. - Yes. - First of all, I literally was-- I journal on Sundays because I gotta get that shit out. And I literally wrote as my-- I always like, actually, I took this for my friend, Lila, one time told me about she found a journal entry from when she was in the fourth grade. And at the end of it, she wrote her biggest worry and like her biggest worry, her biggest hope and like what she's most grateful for. So I've been like ending all my journal entries like that. And I wrote last night that what I'm most grateful for, I actually write this usually every time, and I was like, maybe I don't have like a love interest right now, but I like love my friends so much like that it's not normal. And I feel so grateful that I have that. - I feel grateful too. - I saw a clip of you talking about like you being in love with your friends. - I am in love with my friends. I'm in love with you guys. - I'm in love with you back. - Same. - Well, I love you guys. - We also learned that our friends move in tandem emotionally. - Yeah. - When we're all up, we are all up and when we're all down, and that is just how I like it. - Me too, we crash out together. - Always. - Always. - Always. Oh, this was fun. - This was so fun. - Did you miss us or no? - I'd so much. - Be honest. - I did. I'm so excited for dinner now. I wish you were coming. - Same. - Follow what? - I'm upset. - Do you want to give a little? What? Bye, Pussies. - Oh. Bye, Pussies. - Wait, come on. One, two, three. Bye, Pussies. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The group shares intimate, humorous anecdotes about their chaotic daily lives, including mental health struggles, poor sleep, and emotional exhaustion.
They introduce a new slang term "baby" to describe crushes, using it to fuel playful, emotional conversations and even as a narrative device in songs and relationships.
A recurring theme is the emotional turbulence of relationships, including breakups, misunderstandings, and gaslighting, especially after time apart or during high-stress events.
The group highlights their shared emotional experiences—like losing their "babies" during a period of anxiety and celebrating bonding moments through rituals like candle ceremonies.
They openly discuss mental health, self-care, and emotional dependency, such as using a crush as an emotional fluffer or being overwhelmed by social media and phone addiction.
A major emotional turning point involves a friend’s betrayal after a breakup, leading to strained friendships and deeper reflections on trust and loyalty.
The group expresses joy in shared experiences like travel to London and spontaneous fun, underscoring their bond through joy, pain, and vulnerability.
They conclude by affirming their deep friendship, emphasizing mutual support, journaling, and emotional honesty as key to their well-being.
Summary:
The group reflects on a turbulent, emotionally charged month marked by mental health struggles, relationship breakdowns, and personal insecurities. They share candid stories about poor sleep, emotional exhaustion, and moments of crisis—like a failed trip to London or being gaslighted by a friend. A central theme is their use of playful language, especially the term "baby" for crushes, which becomes a creative tool for expressing emotional vulnerability.
They also reveal how their emotional states are deeply interconnected, often rising or falling together, reinforcing their bond. The group discusses real-life dilemmas like using a romantic interest for emotional support, social media addiction, and difficult friendships. A pivotal moment involves betrayal by a close friend after a breakup, which intensifies their awareness of trust and loyalty.
Despite the chaos, they find joy in shared experiences—like a memorable London trip and spontaneous fun—and reaffirm their friendship through rituals, journaling, and deep emotional honesty. Ultimately, they emphasize that while life can feel overwhelming, their mutual support and emotional openness provide strength and resilience.
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They're calling their crushes 'babies,' like 'baby number one' or 'baby number two.' It's a fun way to refer to romantic interests and is even used in songs like 'Stuck by Drake' where the phrase 'me and my baby split up' becomes a recurring theme.
They describe a wave of low energy and mental fatigue, with shared moments of anxiety, poor sleep, and emotional distress, like feeling like they're in a 'dark place' and struggling to find joy in daily life.
They gathered around, wrote down their hopes and desires for their 'babies' on paper, held hands, and chanted their wishes over a candle before burning the paper, symbolizing a ritual to release negative thoughts.
They had a joyful, memorable trip to London, with great food, shopping, and a fun welcome party. One highlight was a drunken moment where a friend fell unexpectedly, leading to a funny and emotional story shared with others.
Their emotions move in waves—when one person is high, everyone is high, and when one is low, everyone is low. This shows how emotionally connected they are and how they support each other through ups and downs.
They admit they're relying on a romantic interest for emotional comfort, which they feel is selfish or leading him on, but they also acknowledge it's a common coping mechanism when loneliness or emotional struggles arise.
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