Session 154: Nicholas Hoult

You're my rocket stop baby, my smoky mountain news Yeah, nobody in the world could steal my heart like you. I've been coast to coast lately seen some pretty views but I want that Tennessee tailgate church on a Sunday last with you. You're listening to 98.3 now, therapist live, that's Will hunt and his new single rocket stop baby is out this Friday. I'm very excited. Are you excited? I'm very excited. What's it about? Well, it's about Tennessee nostalgia as a whole. You love Tennessee nostalgia. I do. What do you love about Tennessee nostalgia? I just love growing up in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Oh, he he'll he'll make sure to let you know that your new song comes out this Friday. Yeah, what do you want to tell the listeners out there at home? Please stream. Tell them what you were close to doing this week. What boost in your take talk? Oh, I was paid for the ads. I was this close. I tell you content takes work and adult friendships require grace. We've been spending a lot of time together. Listen into some of Will's tunes. Yes. Is it Mack and Will or Will and Matt? It's hunt brothers. It's the hunt, brothers, excuse me. Rocky top baby comes out this Friday. Yes. The girls were gagged. You love to rocky top. I love rocky top. Now you do. What's your favorite part about rocky top? Well, my favorite part about Tennessee is just I love the music scene. May two. I love the music scene. You walk around the corner. You walk around the block and you just see like someone playing the guitar. You sit down. You just sit there and you're tuning out. Sometimes you get in there with them. What else should we talk about? We've been watching some real househouse in New York together. And apparently I'm Durrinda. He is Durrinda. Is he not Durrinda? And you're Bethany. I'm Durrinda. Yes. I am Bethany. And you're Durrinda. And why are you Bethany and why am I Durrinda? Durrinda snaps in a moment's notice. Thousand I snap. I do. She has a high moral compass that she believes in. I think I have morals, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And out of Bethany, why do you think I'm Bethany? I don't know because you like to stir the pot a little. But in a very smart way. Release the demons. Release. Forgot to love the word that it gave us one and only son. I hope people stream your song. Me too. Please. If you're listening to this, Rocky Top Baby is out Friday. Friday. Friday. Give it a stream. You can free sleep Thursday at midnight. Is that Friday? That's Friday. Okay. What's your favorite part about Nashville, Tennessee? I'm like, I'm crazy. My favorite part about Nashville is Chattanooga. So don't Nashville. My Chattanooga. I'm from Chattanooga, Tennessee, not Nashville. Right. Right. Right. Right. So you want to sleep over again tonight? Absolutely. Right. But I need to pack some clothes because I've been in these clothes for three days. And what's your favorite color right now? One, two, three orange. We don't know how much. Hey, do we know, but I do love burnt orange more than orange. Oh, you want to be specific? Yeah. Well, you've been wearing orange. It's not burnt. Well, I've been wearing a lot of blue, too, because it's a blue wave. Have you ever seen skins? No, but I want to. I've heard it's amazing. Well, Nicholas Holt is on the show tonight. It's skins new. skins is from the year 2007. Okay. So now. That's why I asked. Yeah. What other songs? So you so Rocky Top Baby. So tell me, well, Rocky Top Baby is out this Friday. Yes, it's out this Friday. So you're a country singer. What do you love about country? Everything. I love that it's a storytelling genre. I love that it's a genre based in the kind of like nostalgia and you know, just like. So what's the story of Rocky Top Baby? Who is Rocky Top Baby? It's a really good question. Well, I do make music with my older brother if that isn't clear. And it's kind of fun because we both have two different perspectives. One song, one is gay. And the other is straight. Which one are you? I'm straight. What was the question? I asked the story behind Rocky Top Baby. Do you have one or no? Obviously I do. I do. So sing it to the blue wave. Rocky Top Baby is a song about a person, but also like Tennessee as a whole. So it's like me missing this person that I grew up with and was obviously in love with, but also missing Tennessee because I grew up there and I also love it. Oh, wow. So you really don't give that to the crowd and say, do with this what you will. Thousand. Honestly, it's up for interpretation, but also not at all. It's pretty clear. We got nothing to say. Any more. Have you seen any TV shows you liked recently? Actually, yes. The second season of Gentleman. Have you seen that? It's the best show I've ever seen. But a little full circle moment we got going on here. Someone from skins Miss Effie Stoneham is in the gentleman. No, no, no, no, I'm obsessed with her. Yes, she is in skins. Okay, I'm watching skins. Yeah, skins is the blueprint. Okay, cool. I'm like, I'm actually more than I do. But it's the blueprint. It's about teens in the UK. And you love the UK. What's your take on that that you love the UK? I find it actually very funny. But why? What is your take on that? Because you love to dissect, dissect, dissect. I think you just met a lot of amazing new British people that you love. And I think that you appreciate the culture. I want to be a part of it. You want to be a part of it because you're obsessed with you have so much meaning, but you find meaning in other things like that. My hyperfixation, your hyperfixation. It's actually kind of fun to see what's next. Like, no, I don't know what's next. Britain is, I'm still, I'm still on Britain. You're still on Britain. I'm still on Britain. Yeah, I don't know what's going to be next. Any idea? No, but you can never tell with a hyperfixation. I would like to say, you know, maybe we should talk about a few of you. Are you shoeless? Yeah, don't pan though. I didn't wear shoes here. Okay. I want to your home barefoot. Yeah, I noticed you were barefoot this I am. And then when I was looking in the car this morning and you were pressing on the break, I said to see if I have shoes on. I drive with one toe. So some of my hyperfixations over this past year include, but are not limited to Luke Combs. I loved that one. You liked that one. I love Luke Combs. That one was very tough for me. Yeah, I was going through a lot. Oh, sorry. I didn't like that one then. No, I liked it. I like my show. Yeah, which was crazy. So that was my favorite episode. What was after Luke Combs? You do. I'll pay. No, that was a fun one. That was a fun one. And that was a big one too. Yeah, like I liked that one as well. Am I allowed to say that that I liked that? Yes, like I liked your hyperfixation there. Beach boys. Beach boys. Beach boys. Beach boys. Beach boys. That was good. That was fun. Yeah. I know I've never been to try new guy. Well, I would like you to come. You would love it. You would really like, oh my god. You either love it or you wouldn't because it's a lot of outdoor activity. I hate outdoor activity. I know it's like watering holes. It's mountains. It's what? Who's in there? Who is in there? Wait, it's speaking to me. What's it saying? What? Sorry. What's it saying? I know we've been talking. It wants me to tell everyone that Rocky Top Baby is out this Friday by the hot brothers. And wait, sorry. I'm sorry, man. You can pre-save it as well. Can you ask where the link is? The link. Sorry. Where's the link? To pre-save it. It's going to be in the description of this episode below. Oh, that's really sweet. Of course. And it's in Will's bio. It's in my bio. It's in his bio. I found it. And if you give his take, talk a little love. Please, bro, please. I'm putting content out there. Try being an influencer for a day. It's hard. Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian. Will you talk music? Like that we're listening to. What are you listening to? You're calling me a pitchforks knob. Thousand. I just said be cautious. Cautious. Cautious. Kings of Leon has a new album that I've only discovered. Is it good? Is it good? Is it good? Oh, my God. It's so good. I'm so excited. It gave it a great, like a really good review. And will every time I'm like, I'm on pitchfork, he's like, I haven't listened to anything else in the five days. I'm going to listen. Is it that good? I love Kings of Leon, but it's exceptional. I'm going to listen on my dry poem. Should we play improv? Give us a scenario. Can will be a neighbor coming to drop something off at your door. And that's it. Uh-huh. I kind of like that. It's bright. Do I have to knock? Come in. Hi. Trick or treat. Oh, sorry? Trick or treat. Oh, sorry. How long was last week? I have my back. Oh, sweetie. Halloween was last week. today. Um, where's your mom? I don't know. I need to call her. So call your mom. I should like really. Do you live around here, babe? No, I'm actually from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Oh my God. You know, you know, sweetie, let me go see if I have some candy for you. Oh, I do. Oh my God. Sourpuss. This is my favorite candy. Genuine life. My friend makes it. Oh my gosh. Your friend is awesome. My friend makes it. Yeah. Yeah. I eat about four bags of these a day. Oh, you do. Um, I'll tell him he'll be so happy. Breakfast lunch and dinner. He'll be so happy. Do you think you have one for my mom? Um, no, that's okay. They're hard to come by. I have to call my friend every day and I have to say where's the sour plus? Where's the sour plus? Everyone's asking me and, uh, yeah. Well, boy, oh boy. Am I excited? I'm so excited. I'm really happy. I'm not done your door. I know that Halloween is not today. We're in November. It's actually almost December. I must have slept through it. You slept through it? Mm-hmm. I know we've said it a few times, but one more time for the listeners out there. What? Rocket top baby by the hump brothers is out this Friday. And pre-saving is in the description of this episode and in your bio. Well, I love you. I love you. Is that how you sign off normally? Well, tonight we have on Nicholas Holt who is fantastic and he's in skins with the girl who plays Afi who's in the gentle man. Amazing. And I think you would really love skins. They have some great music. I'm going to watch tonight. It's like really like I honestly think skins is maybe what got me into British culture a bit as well. Okay, cool. Well, I'm excited to watch you. I'm so nostalgic. You are. Nostalgia's a mind's trick. It is. Quote Taylor Swift. It is. You're always unhappy. What? Like nostalgia is like you wouldn't be happy back then. And her song I hate it here. She's like if I was there, I'd hate it. It was freezing in the palace. Totally. So I full body chills. Yeah, full body chills. I actually love that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I like that. How to rob a bank is in theaters November 13th starring Nicholas Holt. He is fantastic. Thank you, Will, for doing the intro. I love you. Enjoy the episode, Pussies. Welcome Nicholas Holt to Therapist. Hey, thank you for having me. This is very exciting. I'm happy to be here. I'm so happy when you found me last night. I got so excited. I texted the week. That was nice. Well, I was like, I'm I'm I looked on your page and I was like, Oh, follow follow back. Follow back. Very nice. I watched your stories and you you had been watching some skins. Oh, nice. Uh-huh. Do you remember skins at all? You were saying you don't remember it. Do I remember skins? Oh, you remember like parts of it. But I was 16. So it was 20 years ago. Not to like just age myself massively. Was it like the UK's response to the grassy? Or like, what was it? Was it was skins that original? Or was it based off of something else? I don't know if it was it was original. I don't think it was based off anything. But I think it was around the time if I'm not mistaken of, um, like the OC and the more like, yeah, Glitzy kind of American shows show and youth. So it was it was the the writers and Brian, the creator were brilliant and just kind of being like, Oh, we're going to give a more honest. Is that the point of why I think? No, I mean, it was quite extreme in some some ways. But it was like my yeah, it was my like formative years. My first time working away from home without a shaperone at 1617. So we would we would we were pretty wild, but in like still turning up for work and doing our jobs, but also you guys had fun. We had a lot of fun and made great friends for life through it as well. So it was really cool. The first one of my first memories is it comes that we used to try and sneak into we were underage, but we're trying to sneak into night clubs and stuff. There was some that would just let us in, but there was there was one night club in Bristol called Oceana, which was the big one with like lots of floors inside. We're always trying to get in there. And I remember one night, we were like, we're in a little group and then Dev Patel was like, he's like, don't worry guys, I'm going to talk to the bouncer, I'm going to get us in. And he went over there and we're watching and we're like, he's going to do it. He's going to do it. And there's like a lot of like back slapping and handshaking and tapping on it and we're like, I think he's done it. And then he comes back, he's got a big ground in his face. And he goes, it's okay guys, he says we can come back when we're 18. Okay, so we're not going in. That was a fail. All right, we'll try and sneak in another time. Do you guys all keep attached? Yeah, a lot of us do. Yeah, we've got a group chat and seeing a few of them recently, Hannah Murray just haven't text her back yet. Well, this will come out in a week. So I will have texted that by then. Okay. It takes to back. So wait, you watched it already. And then you will rewatch the first, because if I remember correctly, it was like the first season was Tony was episode one, Cassie was episode two. Yes, I think so. Yeah. And I remember being fine with Tony and like being like, okay, like this like makes somewhat sense. And then when I watched Cassie, I was, I must have been like 11 and I was like, I have to turn this off right now. Yeah, because that's young to be watching it. Or it was Chris. It was someone when Chris's parents left. And he like, yeah, his story was pretty heartbreaking. I know what I got. It's boiled for me. There were lots of them. Yeah, yeah. It was fun. It was a great time. Do you remember like a favorite memory from sad or just after after sad? Well, I remember one of this is like, there's a scene where it's Chris's funeral and their parents aren't allowing us to go or something. Yes. And there was that all fireworks. And there's a bit where we steal his coffin. Yeah. And then we strap it to the top of the minicouper. And we weren't, we were driving that minicouper around Bristol being chased by a hearse. But we hadn't really like closed down the streets and stuff. Uh-huh. So it was like, it was just kind of this odd image of a mini with a coffin strapped on top and a hearse chasing it. And we were getting like people's real reactions as we were driving around. So that was like a very clear memory of mine because I was like, this is a very strange thing to be doing. And really fun. I said, it was me and Mike Bailey said, um, driving around and just seeing people's faces, like they're etched in my memory because people would be like, they'd see this minicouper with the coffin, but then they'd see the hearse chasing it, like flash and it's nice and honking and be like, this is a weird, a weird view for the day. You were in about a boy. And then did you take a break and then do skins? I was working a little bit, but I was at school still and yeah, so it wasn't like, oh, I'm just taking a break, but I think, yeah, I was 11 when I did about boy, so skins were five years now. Your exit was always planned on scans, like it was always like, you're only gonna do two seasons and then go. Yeah, that was always the plan that it was two seasons and then the next generation and I think they did six seasons of it or seven. Uh-huh. And the American spin off? I couldn't do the American spin off. I didn't see it. I remember at one point someone being like, oh, we're having struggle, we're having to struggle casting your role because everyone's too good looking. No, it's like, uh, thanks. So was that like an insult or a compliment? I think it insult, but I took it as a compliment. I think it's a compliment. They were trying to cast the most good looking person for your role. No, but they was saying that everyone was too good looking to play the role. In salt. No, no, no, no, no. So did skins because it was like a real, because my trainer is British, she was like, it was the biggest phenomenon ever. Like everyone was watching it. Was it almost immediate the reaction or did it take until season two? I don't remember. Um, I remember it being, it got pretty popular pretty quick. Um, and it was kind of unexpected when we were making it like, you know, you know, the writing was good and we were having a good time, but it wasn't, I don't think anyone expected it to pop as much as it did. Where do you see all the characters? Where do you see Tony today? I don't know. You've probably, you've watched, I haven't actually watched much. He just wants to college or uni, sorry. He just went to you. Yeah. But it's been like 20 years. I know it's a nom like what's he up to? Oh, you think you think he's with Michelle now? Probably not, if we're honest. Um, 20 years. So what? Okay. So I'm on season three. So if there's any spoilers with a fee and stuff, just because I, I don't know, I don't know if there's any spoilers. I've only ever seen the first episode of each season of episode one and season one two, because we did like a screening or a premiere or something. That's all you ever saw. And then I never, yeah, because it's like it's every week. I felt weird to like be like, well, let's all gather around and sit down and watch the show. Uh-huh. And at what, at some point, I'll go back and, and watch it maybe, but at a moment, um, I also hate watching anything I'm in. I like watching other people's stuff, but when I'm in stuff, I feel like it would be a lot of cringing for me, um, to do that. So you never saw Warren bodies either? Or you did. You went to the premiere. I saw like the premiere, I think. Did you have fun shooting Warren bodies? I had a great time shooting that. Because I didn't really have much dialogue to remember. Like I was a good zombie and I just grunt. Yeah. Right. Keep you safe. Yeah. It's kind of it. So it was like, that was a big plus. Um, and Jonathan, the director was, was brilliant and Teresa played Julie. It was just a really like wonderful team and, and I really liked the story. Um, and the soundtrack, I think it's great. Uh-huh. Soundtrack was great. Yeah. Soundtrack of skins was great too. Because it was, isn't it? Yeah, it's really good. I like, uh, what, what sound track have you heard recently that you've been like, ooh, oh, good question. Um, I just watched Mr. Robot for the first time. Oh, yeah. They had a really nice soundtrack. Yeah. What are you watching? And what's our track? Did you hear? I'm watching traitors. Really? Yeah. This is it. The celebrity trailer season two. It's so good. Richie DeGrant is phenomenal. Have you seen any of the clips of him? Uh-uh. It's what he's so he's been selected. Oh, this is a spoiler, I guess, as one of the traits. No, that's not as, but I feel like everyone. Once the traitors are selected, everyone's like, he's one of the traitors. And he's so thrilled to be one that he just someone asked him. They were like, "Hey, are you a traitor?" And he goes, "Yes." And he's like, "Yes, I am." And they're like, "You're not meant to tell us." So he's already out at himself. But then he's like, trying to backpedal now in the episodes that I've seen some So far he's trying to back pedal and be like, "Oh, I was just so disappointed that I wasn't. I said it." That's smart. But it's really interesting them watching the psychology of everyone because some people are like, "Well, we should," he said he was a traitor, we should probably vote for him or whatever. And then other people are like, "No, he would never do that. That would be so ridiculous." So it's interesting watching the psychology of people in that show. And the people that think they can spot liars and the people that don't. What would you rather be a traitor or whatever the fuck? Just whatever the fuck. I think I'd rather be a traitor. Me too. Right? Yeah. But that's slightly just a fear option because I wouldn't want to be, because then I'm like, "At least I can't be killed in the night." Right. Do you watch U.S. traders? No, it's a good. Phenomenal. Really? Phenomenal. The best though, when they had like, "Do you watch a lot of reality television?" Not tons, not tons. I don't watch a lot of TV. I don't watch a lot of stuff in general. Our house is very busy and hectic and we don't have a lot of time to watch things. And you guys were the Long Beach? We're in London now. Oh, you, okay. But did you ever go to Jan's Health Bar when you were in Long Beach? Yeah. It's really good. It's the best. Which one did you go to? I went to the one in Laguna all the time. Oh, okay, okay. We had this like peanut butter smoothie and then they had, I don't know if you were around for it. Like if you went to it, but they had a tsunami salad and it was like a tsunami salad and it was like. Why the name of that? It was so good. It was like my COVID meal. Every single day I would walk, two in front, every single day, two miles there, two miles back. Oh, yeah. That's a good walk. Jan's is the best. I've been doing, I've been doing 20,000 steps a day, which I'm like, just doing the school running stuff. But Jan's is very good. We were actually talking about getting some sort of shake. Do you find skins to be realistic to the average British teen life, at least back then? Yeah, it's obviously heightened for television. But there's a fair bit of, you know, growing up there's a fair bit of wildness, push the limits of everything, don't you? Uh-huh. So, yeah. Whilst it's entertainment and it's heightened, there's things in there that I think are probably rooted in truth. And did people begin to like stop you on the street after skins came out as opposed to about a boy? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. Because it's different when you want a TV show as well as opposed to a film, you know, a film someone might watch once and go to the cinema and it's kind of a different, and then a TV show is like, oh, that's every week you're in people's houses and they're watching and they feel like they know you differently and stuff. So it becomes a very different type of fame. Do you get stopped a lot? How do you, how do you find that? I love it. You do? I love the attention. Do you like it? Or you try? I'm trying to get better at it. I was like, I hated it for a while. I was like, fuck. Uh-huh. Stressing me out. Um, I also just didn't like the feeling of like, I don't know, being anonymous is a really nice thing. Uh-huh. When you're like, just going about your business. What's your birthday? Uh, like December 7th? I don't know why I have to think about that so long. Well, I know I have to think about it. To your satirians. Yes, yeah. What does that mean? So do you like to party? Yeah. Is that a Sagittarius party? Yeah, Sagittarius party. Is that a party? What's your favorite type of party? A good one. No, but like, like, if you, okay, like, ideal night out. Um, it's spontaneous, I think. Unexpectedly. Those are the best. I think unexpected where it's like, oh, yeah, probably black, I used to always aim to black out. Me too. What age do you stop? Just out of curiosity. Uh, haven't, haven't. Okay. No, I think, uh, when I became a dad, I was probably like, yeah, it's probably times to stop blacking out. It's the best. Uh, sometimes. Do you like to buy? Yeah, yeah. I love to party. Well, you just said you, you stopped for 24 hours. Yes, because well, I went to the strokes. Yeah. And I took shrooms. Oh. And that's not, it wasn't like, crazy or anything. But for some reason, they kept me up until 6 a.m. And I was watching skins all night. And so I was like, okay, I have to turn this off because it's gonna rev me up. Right. Because. Which, by the way, what's boiled for me? Yeah. I actually would have been more pissed off if someone told me you got hit by a bus. I did get hit by a bus. Yeah. That's a memory getting hit by a bus. And then you had to act like. And then we sang cast evens. Yes. Yeah. Remember that. You know what? I was like, I was like, I feel it. That's pretty memorable because like everyone's suddenly into musical and everyone's singing. And I'm dead singing. So you, you four, you're kind of copied you guys. Oh, they did. Yeah. I haven't seen you for a. Okay. Well, I remember watching that and saying, oh my god. Did they do a musical ending? Yes. In season one. They sang a labyrinth song. I do. Well, I haven't watched the show. I think labyrinth is great. He's a very talented. And I listen. There's one song off the soundtrack which I listen to a load. Suddenly I was like, oh, this is, this is a vibe. I like this. And I actually, I went to the Grand Prix in Monaco once. I went to the Grand Prix in Monaco. Oh, yeah. That's very glamorous, isn't it? It's fun. And I got to, my dad's a big race fan and I got to take him and my mom. And labyrinth was performing in this club that we were at. And we'd been hanging out and whatever. And then I went and sat next to my dad and he was all like misty eyed. And I was like, you're good. And labyrinth went up and performed. This was like, when earthquake had just come out. And he was like, yeah, before he went on stage, labyrinth said this, this one was for me. So my dad was like in Monaco at the race of his dreams. And then like labyrinth's performing. But he was like giving it, giving my dad a little props and shout out before going up there. It was cool to be able to share that. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it was really cool. You like cars a lot. I do. Yeah. Yeah. Any interest all now? Did you grow up in New York? I grew up in New York, but I live in LA. Okay. Where in LA do you live? So it's a little difficult for me to not drive. But I know all my Uber drivers. Right. Yeah. I just all crash. So no interest in learning. I really do want to learn. And I want to do a show where different people teach. We had a drive. Oh, I'll do that with you. Shout out. Yeah, I'll teach you how to drive. Okay. We had. I don't know if I'm going to be the best teacher. But I'll take you out on track and do, like, some race. Just stop it. Yeah, I want to do that. That's fun. And then we also maybe a night out. Yeah, we'll both get black out. Yeah. Where do you meet your wife? In LA. I was shooting a movie. Halloween pie. We were kind of filming and shooting a Halloween pie at the same time. And then we had actually a really fun first. It was kind of an over-commitment first date. Do you remember, I don't know if that's a thing, an over-commitment first date? Well, it over-commitment first date. Well, because we were chatting and then we were chatting about music. And there was this thing called desert trip coming up. Do you remember this? Or also affectionately known as old cellar. And it only happened. It only happened that once. And it was, like, a week or two after, Coachella, I think. But they had the-- Oh, now it starts to roll in stones. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Roger Waters. Oh, wow. They had every night. It was Paul McCartney. It was, like, every night was, like, two legends played. Right. We had a lot of people who went to this festival with 50 plus years old. We were seated. And we had tickets that every night. They were, like, please come to the pit. But we're chatting about music. And we were, like, should we go to this festival? And we, like, didn't really know each other. But we both wanted to go. And we were like, yeah, we were like-- Oh, so you always-- It was like an over-commitment. Yeah, it was like-- We went for dinner once before just to be, like, let's make sure another of us are complete lunatics. Do you think you're a lunatic? A little bit. Really? In what way? Just-- well, yeah, you're OK. So we were talking about-- you were talking about being quite obsessive about things, right? What did you say? How did you phrase it? I hyperfix it. Hyperfix it. I think I do that. I think I have-- I'm undiagnosed ADHD, I think. I see. I think it's a bit of ADHD, as well. Right. It is what I have. Do you like coffee? I love coffee. Me, too. Yeah. So apparently that's the thing for ADHD people. Someone was selling me the other day. That they love coffee? Yeah, but it's, like, kind of-- Because I don't know exactly how it works. Well, because you finally focus on something. With real ADHD, they'll take Adderall and just go to bed. Right, right, right. OK. Because their brain will finally rest. Yeah. So I have difficulty like finishing a sentence or just staying on task, I guess. So that's why I think I like acting and things because I'm like, ooh, I can-- I'm in an environment or, like, car race and where I'm like, OK, you have to-- You have to be present. Right, that's how I feel about skiing. Yeah? Yeah. Well, kind of. But I learned how to ski. I've skied three times now. OK. And the first time I learned how to ski, I was-- I realized I was like, oh, my God, I can't focus on anything else, but miss or, like, my bones will break. Right. I'll, like, get injured. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, I was, like, very calm. I was like, oh, this is, like, the-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I learned in France. And, like, I was, like, looking at the mountains. And I was, like, this is the most peaceful-- I can't go on my phone. This is the most peaceful I've ever been in my life. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, that's why I can't drive a car. I would like to be good at skiing. Well, driving a car is similar. No, you have to focus doing that. That's why I don't do it. Right. But you maybe be good at it. Well, find out. Because you'd be like, you have to, we'll find out soon. I don't know. I'll come and tell this and show that I'll make-- On the special passenger parts. In memoriam of both of us. Yeah. And it, like, turns out, turns out-- Yeah, turns out-- J-Cross. Neither of them. Both of them ADHD sufferers. Terrible. What type of music do you listen to? I listen to a mix of stuff. I'm, like, a Spotify radio person. Really? Yeah. You don't like to decide what's coming next? No, I like to be surprised. And then discover things through that. OK. The last gig we went to was Taiman Parler. Oh. I'm so jealous. It was really good. Was it just, like, life changing? It was excellent. It was really good. And, like, all these-- The visuals were awesome. Uh-huh. It was actually a very chilled gig. But, like, most people were just sitting, vibing, and, like, I was like, oh, this is kind of nice. Yeah, so that was cool. What else do I listen to? I was in, like, the top 5% of Billie Eilish. Last year I think I really like that hit me hard and soft. Yeah, it's a great album. I listen to that album a lot That would be my like driving album for a little while Favorite song I don't know because I just put it on and I'm like, uh-huh. Oh, you're like an album person like you'll just do a whole album Yeah, yeah, what do you listen to right now because I'm trying to be British so hard? I'm listening to a way says Oh, did you go to any of their gigs? No, I know I'm so late. Apparently they're doing more though. They are Yeah, so I'm I'm looking for I made so we did this thing on the last Superman film we just filmed on Fridays would do tequila karaoke party and I It was like it was like it was like a quick way of like We're gonna drink a very quick bit of tequila sing like one song each Uh-huh, and then we're gonna go home and like we feel like we've like celebrated the end of the week and whatever Apart from one time Yeah, I sang Wonderwall for one of those Because I was like feeling feeling the oasis a song ever. I but they've announced new dates. I think so do you see their new documentary? No, is it good? Have you watched it? It's great. Yeah, but so the thing is I should have watched the have you seen the 2016 one? Super Sonic. No, okay, so that one is amazing. Yeah, cuz there's still not speaking. Oh, right So it's like want to have you ever seen the Amy White House talk? Yes. Oh my god. I had me in tears It's amazing, but you know how they never show with their faces of the people they're interviewing. Yeah, and the Amy White House talk It's like the same thing for a way so it's just a bunch of like old footage and you hear like All of them talking but their still the brothers are still not talking right the brothers are finally talking in this one Yeah, so I didn't really get how important it was the reunion. Yeah, yeah, they said they never would so it's like I don't know I feel like yeah, then when they next I because I looked and it was like every day It was like just when I just left somewhere or couldn't be somewhere and I was like damn I'm not gonna go you know who I told I'd see a wasis with it's tasty I could jump. Oh really? Yeah, oh great. Well, let's all like let's all go join forces and go together Yeah, we'll get Bucket matching bucket hats That's what I want they all we're bucket hats. Yeah, you got the bucket hat. What's your favorite oasis song? Oh, I feel like I keep interrupting you as you try to drink your coffee and I feel really bad about it I just by the way I just came here to just drink a coffee in peace Oh Lovely don't know back in anger. Maybe that's my favorite or maybe I've never heard that one I think fan. That was I think yeah, that was one of the first albums. I have a book what's the story morning glory or the one before What's the story morning glory? Yeah, what was your first album break away by Kelly Clarkson? Oh really? Yeah, okay, and I bought it at the used book fair Like because in America, we I don't know if you guys have this in London, but I don't know if any of you guys had this but we had like a Scholastic book fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and But there was the new book fair and the used book fair and the use book fair was the best because it was like Thrifting for kids, right, and so I remember getting the Kelly Clarkson CD and not being my first CD I ever bought Favorite song behind these hazel eyes That's one because I pays a lot. What's you do have a karaoke song? Okay, so Probably shallow if you I had to be like, all right, like let's just do one Thank you Amazon Prime for sponsoring today's episode So today I want to talk about something that has been part of my life forever and has genuinely changed it for the better And that's prime if you haven't heard of it, although I know you all know this prime It not only has incredibly fast shipping, but it also has all of your favorite shows and movies to stream So with that combination, I'm not just asking myself, what do I want to watch? I'm asking, how do I want to feel while I'm watching it? And today I'm gonna be honest, I'm feeling miserable as always, but I like it that way So I ordered a weighted blanket, a silk pillowcase, a weighted eye mask, and a fan And after this, I'm gonna head to the couch and give my entire life to a sci-fi series or thriller series for the rest of the day And the best part, my order was already delivered, it really is that fast Last week, I was feeling super inspired and I couldn't stop watching music biopics And that's what I love about prime, whatever mood you're in, it has you covered Last week with music biopics, this week is horror I don't know what's next, but I know that prime will be there for me You can literally curate your entire day around how you're feeling From streaming to fast shipping, it's on prime Thank you again prime for working with me on today's episode What football team do you root for? Uh, Arsenal now I grew up near Reading, so when is it a goona? A goona, yeah, goona, yeah, but we're living in North London, so now we're back and I'm like My boys are like what team should we support, and you guys can support Arsenal, yeah, that my best friend's family is British and they're all gooners Oh then, yeah, and I like the colors red and white Yeah, it's very nice Have you been to any game? Have you spent much time in London? I, somewhat Okay, it's my, probably, it's my favorite city in the world Yeah And I love the nightlife, and I love like, I feel like in Europe like it's a more, this way I know it's about Skins, right? So like it's a more day-to-day culture Like they kind of like take things as they come and then just like go on about their day and their weeks And like in America, like everyone's future tripping all the time and thinking about like what's next? What's next? What's next? What's next? And in Europe, it's very like How do we get through today? Yeah, how do we get through the day? Yeah, well that's a big like yeah, existential fear, isn't it? If you future fixate too much? It's all I do Really? It's all I do Yeah, like do you worry about the past or just worry about the future? I do worry about the past a lot Like I think about the past all the time, but then I'm like I've come to terms with being like there is nothing I can do Like I think my frontal lobe is developing Where I'm like there is literally the only thing I can change is today, so now I worry about the future instead Right, right, right, yeah, I'm them And of the things that you worry about, how often do they come true? How often do things you worry about do you go? Oh, that was that happened, do you know what I mean? I'm scared like not all that not often Yeah, what about Yale? Very infrequently most of the time, but that's like a thing I can't remember who the quote is from what's the quote If all the things happen that I worried about Something something Right very much paraphrased, but I remember reading an campaign like Oh, yeah, the all the things you worry about Very a very small amount of them ever come to fruition really I know and then when and then it's still difficult what I realize is when things do come true that you worry about It's not how you think they would and it's not what you think would right Well, then you're dealing with the reality of the situation I have like impending doom I see where I'm like well, I'm like oh and that's so I hate like The wait for something I remember my mama was used to say that she was like The way love like going to the dentist knowing that the dentist is gonna happen is worse than what actually happens at the dentist You're like the dentist I'm British I know I was about to say your bread is come on trip question. I love. I don't know I do like I've the dentist that I've been to recently. I really like Very soft. You have nice teeth. Thanks. I've got one in Visaline for the last Well, no, not in Visaline. Another brand off brand off brand in Visaline Yeah, yeah, by calling that uh, I don't know like um Yeah Yeah, I tried to straighten them out a little bit. Uh-huh. I need I think I want the nearest oh no No, great teeth done don't don't do the veneer thing really and also if you see in the images of And what's underneath the list? Yeah, bugs me. I will shave them all down Bugs me out. Terrifying. Did you ever have braces? That's kid. No, no, that's why I'm now like all right Come right because also I didn't smile because I was like conscious of my teeth. I'd always be like Uh-huh and I was like this is bad. I don't look happy Why do British people not like the dentist? I don't know. I don't I guess there's not much to really like We'll give totally but yeah, but you go but I go yeah like we still go to the dentist Like I know uh teeth aren't as nice as Americans in general, but How well really like how often do you guys go to the dentist? Uh, once every eight to nine years Exactly. I knew it. Uh, you know, well also the dentist is that ridiculous thing where they're like What are you doing in six months time at 10 a.m. On a Tuesday and you're like fucking I don't know anywhere at that point. Yeah, sign me up And then they call you like the day-off day before and like you come in tomorrow and you're like I've completely forgot Of course, I'm not coming. I do hate the dentist now that I'm thinking about it It's uncomfortable. I don't like have you have you ever had a clean end done Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but my recent cleaning yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like chalkboard the recent cleaning. I got was much gentler though, you know something just thinking of having people having their hands in your mouth I got one of those um Is it called a bucule massage? a bucule yeah No, I did it um this this uh brilliant man came and did it at the hotel Uh, say another and it was the craziest thing. I felt like I've been in a massive fight afterwards He was like right in that never had someone in my mouth like that and then it's quote That's the only quote I went from this interview. I never had someone in my mouth like that um And then it was sore afterwards, but it felt like there was lots of space in my mouth. Yeah, it was pretty him They stretched it out. Yeah, my mouth stretched out. Yeah In my hotel room in New York, actually I want you to give her hotel in New York Uh The Greenwich me too. Yeah, I lived there for a month. Oh, you did. Yeah. Oh, it's nice when you live in a hotel a little bit Isn't it? No, you think so. I was going kukubanana crazy shit. Oh really? Yeah, like I was like if I don't I like Was like I was doing a play and I this is why actually how I got this place is because I was like I need a place to live I cannot live in a hotel anymore. What play were you doing? I was doing this play called "All Out" with someone else named Nicholas, Nicholas Braun. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. and Brave Romano and Jenny Slade. - How was it? Did you have fun? - It's the best time of my life. 'Cause it's like, you know, when you do theater, it's like a routine. It's like every, like, have you done Broadway before? - I'm never done Broadway. - But you've done West End. - Yep. - And is it the same, like, eight days a week show? Kaden's? - Uh, yes. Yeah, you do, like two mountaineys and-- - Yeah, yeah. I loved that. My play was like, we would read off the thingy and like off teleprompters. It was like a SNL skit 'cause the guy who wrote it did a SNL. - Oh, cool. So it was like very, like, skit-based. It was like a bunch of just, like, um, different, like, minis, like, skits. - Yeah. - Vignettes. That's what I call them. Vignettes. And, uh, and, it was just the best. It was, like, every day I was busy. And it was like, all you had to do was show up to the theater at 5, get dressed really quickly and do the thing and then be done. - Did you have a big, like, rehearsal period or-- - One week. - One week. Oh, great. Nice. - What'd you do? What play did you do? - Well, I did the last play I did was actually, when I was 19, called New Boy, at Trafalgar Studios in London. And I had a great time. I'd like to do more theater. That's, like, on my list to do. My to-do list. - Do you like people clapping for you? - Yeah. It's the best. - Um, no, uh, yeah. Do I like people clapping? If it's genuine, I suppose. That's nice. - How do you know if it's not genuine? - Well, you can't tell, I suppose. But is there not ever that little bit of a doubt where it's like, "Oh, I'm always like, 'Oh, they're clapping at me." - It's not so much the clapping, like, that play was really nice when people would laugh and stuff. 'Cause you're like, "Oh, this is. " - Laughter's laughter is better than clapping. - Yeah, no one's, like, no one's politely laughing. Well, actually, I sometimes politely laugh just because it's like, "I didn't get the joke, but I don't want to be. " I don't want to not get the joke. - Uh-huh. - What's your fake laugh? What's your fake laugh sound like? - That was it. - Oh. - What's yours? - Okay, just so I know, just so I know. My friends will fake laugh at me, and it makes me really angry. - Do you, uh, do you corpse a lot? Did you ever get like, did you, when you were doing the play, did you ever get like, the giggles really badly? You know, one of my favorite feelings in the world is laughing when I shouldn't be laughing. - It's about, it's the best feeling in the entire world. - And particularly when like, you're in there with someone who knows, like, when you're like shaking next to someone trying to contain laughter and you can feel that they're going as well? - Uh-huh. - It's like, fuck, we're both like on the brink of completely losing our minds. - That happened to me the other week, and I forget when it happened, but I remember that it's just, 'cause you can't, it makes it way worse, you know? - Yeah, when you're not supposed to, that's the best. - Oh, actually, yes. My two best friends, my British best friend, saw the show, and she was front row, and I literally could not look at her, or I was gonna explode. - Yeah. - And that's the last time I remember feeling that way. - That's a weird thing when you can see the faces of people. - It's the worst. - In the third, and you can really pick people out, it's very distracting. - It's the worst. - So how many plays have you done? - I started doing plays when I was little, so I don't know how many I've done, quite a few. But as I say, I haven't done one for a long time now, and now I have the fear of doing it a little bit. - Would you ever want to do Broadway? - Yeah, I would love to do Broadway, yeah. - When's the last time you did, last time you did play you were 19? - Yeah. - I hold on you now? - Uh, 36. - Wow, you age well. - Thanks. - Do you like to work out? - Yeah, I've been lazy recently, but for the last Superman film we just shot, I had to get into like the best shape I've been in, I suppose. So we were pretty intense. - What did that look like? - What did you do every day? - Well, they gave me a wonderful trailer, trainer called Paolo. - But it was weird what we did actually, because I had, I've told my ACL and my meniscus playing basketball last year. - Ooh, it's tearing your ACL, I feel like. - It felt like, ooh, ow. My knees never moved that way before. And then I was laying on the floor and everyone kept on going, like, did you hear a sound? Did you hear a sound? And I was like, I don't remember hearing a sound, but I just remember like hitting the floor on my knee going like sideways and being like, ooh, that's not normal. And then it swelled up really, really huge. And it actually happened like six weeks before we were meant to start filming how to rubber bank. And I had to call David the director and I was like, hey, dude, like, I can't walk. And he was like, oh, yeah. That's not good for our movie. And then so I was like really intensely doing rehab before the movie, just so I could like slightly run. - Just like Tony. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause he had to do rehab after getting back back. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably some bad acting. The subdural hematoma. I remember that. I can remember that line just because it took me so long to learn subdural hematoma, that's really hard, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so Paolo was brilliant. We basically I was doing. Then I had the surgery and we were like, he was like, I've got five months to get you into shape for four months, maybe to get you into shape for Superman. And so we did like, what do we do? Like my lower legs, I was just doing physio. My lower legs, just my legs, I suppose. My lower body. - Well, I was just doing legs with physio. - What would you, this is your lower legs? - Yeah, yeah, no. I was doing all of my legs. So your legs, my legs, out physio. But then Paolo would take me to the gym. And at first I couldn't even walk up and down the stairs properly, but he would like, then we'd do like push day and pull day and we'd do an hour and a half, basically just really heavy weights. - Okay. - Well, six days a week. And then when we got closer to doing like this shirt or seeing them, we did, then I do like half an hour cardio in the morning as well. What was your routine for men's health? - Well, I injured myself, but not like you injured yourself. I got, did your wife ever get mommy thumb? - No, what's up? - It's like tendonitis and you're, when you're holding a baby for too long. - Oh, yeah, I don't, no, I don't think so. - Okay, well, I got that from working out. - Really? - And my tendon would like, like when I would go like this, would go over my muscle, it hurt so bad. So it wasn't like I tore my ACL or anything. - What did you have to do? Do you just wait? Just don't look out for the cast on? And I had a cast on and I had to go, but I went to the Grand Prix in Monaco and I would be like, I would have the cast on and then I would take a few shots and I would get, 'cause we would go out every night and I would get drunk and then once I got drunk enough, I would take the cast off and put it in my room and go out 'cause I wouldn't be, I wouldn't feel it anymore. - Which is bad. Then it would wake up worse again. - I would literally wake up and be like, I can't move my hands and everyone would be like, well, you can move it when you go out. So why can't you just always drunk? - Yeah, it's fine. - What's your drink of choice? - Tequila. - Just straight tequila? - Well, you know, Marguerita with sparkling water, lime, I don't know, whatever. Yeah, tequila in different forms, I suppose. - Yeah. - Sometimes a paloma. - Paloma's are good. - The grapefruit's good, 'cause that detoxifying? - Yeah. - At the same time. - You never get IVs? - No, never had an IV. - You would love. - Yeah. - You would love. - Really? - You seem like what I'm getting from you is you like at home treatments. You're like a bugle fat massage. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're doing the whole to do IVs are the best. - Oh, they, okay. - The best. - And someone comes to your house and hooks you up. - Yes. I'm a little bit worried about who's coming and poking me though. - You just have to have faith that like it's clean, it's good. Like I have my girl, Beverly. She's been doing it for years. And like she knows what veins to, do you get like squeamish? - I don't get squeamish. I quite like having my blood drawn and stuff. But what's interesting, right? - You like having your blood drawn? - Yeah, I find it kind of interesting. - And also I, they normally give me a nice compliment and I go in there and they go, "You've got lovely veins." - Yeah, that's the best. - And I'm like, "Thank you so much." - It's the best. - They're like, "Oh, this is gonna be easy." Apart from one time when I was in Germany and I had to do a medical for a job and they had to take your blood and whatever. And they, I don't know what they did, but they bungled it up and my whole arm, my whole arm bruised from my wrist to my shoulder and I couldn't move it. And I, all from, I don't know what, and how it went so wrong. So since then I've not been so into having the blood taken. - I touched down Los Angeles last night and it was raining. Not only was it raining, but when I woke up I felt a chill as I went on my morning walk at 11 a.m. I felt a chill at 11 a.m. in Los Angeles on a walk. That can only mean one thing. It is Panera season because it is soup season. And if you want the coziest meal you'll ever have, that is the Panera soup and bread bowl. There is nothing more cozy than warm soup and noodles in a bowl of bread. (laughing) You can eat the whole thing. Nothing about it is inedible. The whole thing is edible. So now that fall has officially begun, so has Panera season. Go to your local Panera and get a soup and bread bowl or whatever you fancy today. I don't know if you guys saw but the other day I did a skit pretending to be soup going into a bread bowl for the first time and I got to eat the soup in the bread bowl and it was just unbelievable. I mean like it really is really good sourdough. It's like amazing sourdough. Like I, oh, Panera just brings back so many memories. They have the classic chicken noodle soup which is my favorite but they also have an autumn squash soup which is really good. Also of course they have the broccoli cheddar which is amazing and so cozy. Honestly, this whole partnership with Panera has been so incredible. I got to work with my favorite person in the entire world, Paul Braganti. I got to work with Andrew Ford who wrote the commercial and I got to eat a lot of really delicious food. So thank you Panera for everything. So who do you keep in touch with from skins to this day? I was texting Mike. I was texting Mike Bailey the other day and Joe Dempsey and Kyle. [BLANK_AUDIO] I'm seeing Daniel Collier, I think, tonight for dinner. - Wow. - Tonight? Tonight in New York City. - Do you guys talk about skins? - No. - Not really. - It's so has taken over my life. - Maybe I'll ask him about skin stuff. You know, the wonderful thing about Daniel was he was the youngest person ever to write an episode of TV for Channel 4 when he wrote on that show. - He wrote on that show? - Yeah, he wrote. - Which absolutely great. - I can't remember which episode, but he was 18 at the time, I think. - Wow. - Pretty crazy. - Do you remember any of the storylines being like, okay, this is too much? - Are there any of those two months? - The one that got me and I was like, I have to turn the show off right now, 'cause I was young, was when Cassie's parents were like sex addicts. - Hannah Murray, who plays Cassie, actually just wrote a book, which I still got to read, but it's meant to be incredible. So worth looking if you're in it. - Is it autobiography or-- - Can I find it quickly? - Yes, please. - Is it annoying? - No, not annoying when people were like, - You have a small phone. - Do I just have a huge hands? - Maybe that. - The make-believe? - The make-believe, yes, you're right. A memoir of magic and madness. - Do you still have those bed sheets? - I don't, sadly. That would have been something. Normally I try and keep something from most jobs I'm on, and I didn't keep anything from skins. I don't think that was too us. - Yeah. - Nothing? Do they have anything that you could be like, "Hey, can I get this?" - I don't know where anything would be now. - Did you guys ever have an onset merch? - I don't think so. - No. - Yeah. - You've got memorably, you've got a cardboard cutout of yourself. - I know. - Is that, how'd you get that? - I went on to get a gift. - Was it a gift? - And he gave me a cardboard cutout. - Oh, really? That's nice. 'Cause I was so excited, 'cause I Googled myself, 'cause I Googled myself a lot. - Right. - It's bad. - Positively? - Well, what are you looking for? - Attention. And so I saw they were like, "You're on celebrity cardboard cutouts." And I was like, "This is amazing." And then Jimmy Fallon gave me a cardboard cutout. - Yeah. That's why I have that. - That's why the cardboard cutouts is exactly what it seems. It's a website where you can buy. - Celebrity cardboard cutouts, I'm sure you're on there. - Well, I'm definitely gonna be looking, Leo. - I know. I wonder what those two have got to be. - I personally had a gift this is sorted for everyone. - I know. Just cardboard cutouts of you. - Another one. - Do you go by Nick or Nicholas? - Nick. - Nick. - Okay. - Norman. - Well, whatever though. - Okay, oh, that's you. Oh, I am. - I was not expecting that photo. How much is it? - Well, it depends. - It's a bargain. - It's a bargain. - It's a bargain. - Absolute bargain. (laughing) - By them. (laughing) By them. Have you ever been in Glastonbury? - I have. I've been to Glastonbury twice, have you? - No, I want to go out and talk to you. It's easier. - Yeah, yeah. - All right, we'll do that as well. - Oh, please. - Maybe Oasis will play Glastonbury. - I think they will. - That would be pretty good. I actually had Glastonbury talking to baby Winehouse earlier for her last year. - No, you were. - Showed. - Yeah, that was the same year. I think that Jay-Z played as well. - And he came out, he didn't want to walk. - I don't know if it was an ol' look, but he. - It was the angry one. It was statuillion. - It was Liam. They were like, if I can Jay-Z shouldn't be headline in a way. Glastonbury or whatever, and then he came out with a guitar, singing "Wonderwall" and then switched into 99 problems. - Do you think I survived Glastonbury? - Yeah. - Really? - But, it's a story about Glastonbury. - It's a story about Jay-Z was like, you got to do like a wet wipe shower. It's like a, it's filthy. - It's dirty. - Remember the first night that we got there, I actually went with Dan Collouier one year, I remember we turned up, we threw our bags in our friend's tent, and then we went straight out. And then it got to like one or two a.m., and we were like, right, let's go back to the tent, and then we realized it's just a field of tents, and we had no idea where the tents were. So we were like, wow. - So we just sat on a bench and waited until it was morning. - No, you didn't. - And then we went back out. - No, then we went into the tent. - Does everyone just reek? - Yeah, yeah, British Festival. That's an interesting thing about going to like, I went to Coachella once, I think, and we stayed in a house, and I was like, oh, this is amazing. I get to shower, I go, I pop in, I watch a bit of music, and then I go back home, and this is very different to like, sleeping in a tent, surviving, like drinking warm beer when you wake up. - Ah, throw up. - It was just like, yeah, English Festival going, but that was like a big thing about, I grew up near Reading, and Reading's a big music festival. - Yeah, yeah. - In the UK, so I kind of miss going to music festivals. I think I'm maybe a little bit told for most of them now. - Oh. - I'll do a glass of beer, I'd still do. - I'm trying to get, I'm trying to glam for a glass of beer. - Yeah, yeah, we did that one time in a year, and that was very nice. - In a what? - A year. - What's a year, type of tent? - And so, what was it like seeing Amy Winehouse live? - You know what, it was actually really, it was kind of tough watching, because you could tell that she was going through stuff and wasn't completely there, and then I think she went down. If my memory is correct, she went down to like, to the front kind of row, and someone tried to grab her, and she pushed them away or something, and then someone came out and like, they scored her off stage and stuff, 'cause she just obviously was going through a lot and had a lot on her plate. So it was kind of a little bit tragic. She was also, I mean, what an amazing voice and talent, and so it was best. - Kind of all time. - Yeah. - Of all time. - Yeah. - What's your favorite Amy Winehouse song? Tears dry on their own. - Great song. - Sure. - I love, not to be basic, I do love Back to Black. - Mm-hmm. - And I love, I love Fuck Me Pumps. - Oh, I don't know this. - I'll let you talk for it. - Yeah, it's off her first album, Frank, and it's just the best song ever. - Oh, listen to that. - It's so good. - It's so good. - It's so good. - Oh, okay. - And I like my mom's favorite is, you know I'm no good. - Yeah. - I love that one. - I just remember my mom playing that every single morning. - Yeah. - That album's just great. - It's unreal. - And she would go, and remember in the documentary, she would go, she would just write the songs as poems in like 20 minutes and then come back, and then Mark Ronson produced them out. - Yeah. - So cool. - Yeah. - Well, Nick, what do you fare pissed about today? Have you got anything? - Yeah. - I miss my workout this morning. I'm so fucking angry about it. - Really? Angry yourself? - Because I was like, my body's gonna wake up. I don't need an alarm. - Oh. - Which I never feel, but I was like, because I got home at 5 p.m. yesterday and slept from 5 to 11, which was wild, but it's because I woke up so early, I woke up at 5 and couldn't fall back asleep. And so I was like, okay, I'm just gonna take a quick nap. I woke up at 11 and I was like, fuck me, like this sucks. So then I took my sleep stock to sleep, and then my sleep stock, which was like, all my stuff I take to sleep sometimes. And I woke up at 7.55 and my workout was at 8. I was like, cool, fuck me, I guess. - You woke up at 7.55 and your workout was at 8? - Yeah, so I was like, really, really though, I could have run up and been like, I'm 10 minutes late, it's fine, but yeah. - I was like, ooh, and I just went back to bed. - Right, so now, can you just do it after this or something? - There, therein lies the question. - Is it too late? - I don't want to. - Right. - I want to go shopping. - What are you going shopping for? - I'm gonna go thrift shopping. - Yeah. - And I'm gonna go, well, you've inspired me now to go to Prada. - Yeah, you should get some of these shoes. - You should get some of these boots, they're good. - I know, do you like to shop? - Do I like to shop? - Yeah, yeah, I kind of do. I think I get that from my mom, maybe. But also it's I think that like, particularly when you're workin' hard. - Yeah. - I'm like, oh, but I'm gonna try and start doing this thing where rather than like buying something for myself, I try and like put money into something positive somehow. Because I don't really need any stuff. You know, like I really try now to be like, do you need this? Are you just trying to buy some happiness? - I work for like five seconds. - Or like trying to reinvent. And it's also exciting to have a package arriving. - Please, it's the best feeling in the entire world. - Yeah. - I just bought a vintage Beach Boys teacher and I'm waiting for it to arrive and I just got sent the truck in this morning. - You're just gonna keep reloading. - Yeah, it's coming from Thailand. So it should take about two weeks. - You're good. (laughing) - That's better, you got longer for the anticipation. See, that's nice, anticipation for good things is opposed to like the fear of the dentist, the doom. - Uh-huh. - Anticipation of good things. - Are you excited for the Beatles biopex? - I'm not a huge Beatles fan, are you? - I mean, I think they're great. - And I like when it's like my dad's favorite. - Oh, really? - Yeah. - Okay. - I think that we could send members as an awesome director or something. - And Anna Sawai, who's in or had a rubber bank, is in that playing Goka as well. - Oh. - Yeah, yeah, so that's exciting too. - Okay, do you, what did you grow up listening to if not the Beatles? - Tina Turner. That was a bit, and Queen. That was like my dad's playlists in the car. - Was Queen and Tina Turner. - Yeah, so I still like have a real soft spot for both of them. - Did you see Bohemian Rhapsody? - I've not seen Bohemian Rhapsody. - It's great. - It's great. - Rami Malak is amazing. - Oh, the film, sorry, I put you in the stage show. I don't know why. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see the film. He is incredible in it. And you know what, I really want to go to one of these shows that Adam Lambert, right? He now sings with them. - Does he? I'd really like to go to one of those. - Oh wow. - Because I love the Queen's song so much. - And Tina's obviously the best. Simply the best. Do you like music biomex? Talk about a hyper fixation. Those are like my besides skins. - Do you really like them? What's your favorite one? - Love it, Marcy. Beach voice one. - Oh yeah, that was good. I did see that. - You saw that? How awesome was that? - I liked that film, that was cool. - It was cool. - That was interesting how they told that story. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I think I do like them. - You know what I just saw who you worked with? What's his name, John Malkovich? - Yeah. - He was in Warren bodies. He's in this new movie called Wild Horse 9. - Oh, I'm excited to see that. - It is. - Is it good? - I love Mark Donner. He's right. - It's so good. - It's Sam Rockwell as well, right? - It's like fucked up good. - Good. I'm excited. Oh, that's nice to hear. Because when I saw that film was coming out, I was like, "Whoa, this is going to be the one for me, I think." - It's about two guys that go to Easter Island right before the Chilean coup. - Okay. - Okay. - John Malkovich is so good in it that it's quite easy to understand. - John Malkovich is unreal. I remember. when we were filming one body is, I'd be like, you know, just small talk like, so what are you doing on the evening, so whatever. And here'd be like, well, I'm performing in two operas back to back, like doing two different operas. And then also he was like, I'm designing this, men's wear a collection or something, I was like, Jesus, you're doing a lot of stuff. There's also a great moment where he told me he was like, I guess he didn't change the time on his watch, on his clock or something. So he's setting alarm or it didn't change on his phone. So he's setting alarm, woke up, go out of bed and was standing outside his hotel, waiting for a car at like one o'clock in the morning to a clock and he was stood there for like 30 minutes. And he was like, kind of the car's not here. But there was a night club across the street. And he was watching everyone and he thought he was 7 a.m. and he was like, wow, that club's impressive. 7 a.m. there's a big line to get in, not realizing that it was actually 1 a.m. 1 a.m. 1 a.m. Has that ever happened to you? Were you woken up and gone about your day and been like, oh my god, it's not the time I thought it was. I feel like yes, but I can't remember exactly when. It happened to me the other week. I just woke up from a nap and I thought it was like the next day and I was like, right. And then I was like, oh my god. I think you're all four hours up to that big nap or on you. Uh-huh. I noticed you and you also always seem to have sinus infections from watching your show a little bit. You watch? Yeah, I was like, I do always have sinus infections. I have a deviated septum. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, right. But see, the thing is I got it tested the other day and they were like, you don't have a sinus infection. Oh, great. And I haven't told anyone because I don't want anyone to know that I didn't have it. That you didn't have it ever ever. And I, because I, but would you think I say my excuse? Like I was like, I had to do stuff and I was like, I have a really bad sinus infection. I like, I can't do anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lies. I didn't have a sinus infection. Well, let's, let's make sure that this isn't in the show. But I, but I know what I have, but you can use your excuse. I know I have one, but you haven't got that checked. No, okay. Because I don't want to them to stick it up. My note that talk about something I hate is stuff up the nose. Like I hated like during COVID when you had to. Oh, yeah, yeah. Swab. That was always, it was, I remember going into work of fair bit and it was like, there would be people that you liked to get swabbed by it. Not liked, but like they would be like quite gentle and not too deep. Yeah. And then other people would be like, Oh, no, I can't believe I've ended up in this line. Because you know, they're going to be like tickling your brain and really digging around in there. And it's like, it sucked. What's your, what's your goal? What's your like? Oh, this is my, the pinnacle, perhaps, what the aim? Do you have that? Do you have something like thinking about that the other day? I, I don't know, I don't know. I think a goal. I know this is such a like, what? Okay, small goal and big goal. I'll give you my small goal first. My small goal is for to be stopped on the street and say, what are you listening to right now? Okay. And what are you going to say you're listening to? I hope it's something good. Would you lie and just say something? No, I want to be dead honest. I want to be like, this is what I'm listening to. And then have you ever seen those videos? And then the person walks away and they play the song? No, I haven't seen those videos. They are. That's like my fear is being stopped on the street to be interviewed. I don't want to be stopped on the street to be interviewed. I want to be stopped on the street and said, what are you listening to right now? This one, listen to walk away? Yeah. That is my small goal. What's the ideal song? And when you, and when you're walking around on the street, do you purposefully play song? Do you like just in case? Yeah. I never know what it's going to happen. Yeah. Okay. My ideal song that I'd be listening to is something that would make me seem cool. Like LCD sound system or like a pandemic last time. Did you really? Where they just was it like spiritual? Oh, yeah. We had a really good time. Yeah. That's cool. What would you want to be listening to if you got stopped? Something kind of soulful. Uh-huh. You know, a little bit like, oh, I don't know. He would listen to that. Yeah. Some of the things James or Sam Kirk or something where you're like, I love Sam Kirk. Yeah. Something where you're like, oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think. And then my big goal is to probably start a movie. Yeah. What's your big goal? Big goal. Yeah. This is interesting because I asked that question and then I was like, you don't really have like five year plans or 10 years plans or like any of that sort of ultimate. Um, just to I guess do the work with good people. I had this thing recently where I was like, oh, who are you trying to prove what to? Right. You know, I've always felt like this thing of like, oh, I've got to like prove to someone that I'm a good actor. Or like that. I can do this. And I'm like, and then I was thinking of a day. I was like, why are you still? What is that? What is like, what would be enough? Like, like what would you like, uh, an award? Probably an award. But people say, but people say when they win an award, that it's like the saddest feeling of their lives. Right. Yeah. I know a few people have one big things and they're like, yeah, it's not the thing. It's not the fulfilling thing that you expect. And I think that's the the trap, right? So then I kind of have been told that by enough people where I'm like, well, that's can't be the goal. Right. So then what's the goal? And I think it's just, you know, something I say, there you come. I guess actually it's more about like building a nice little community. When I look at like I did a movie with with Clint Eastwood. And the thing that I loved about working with him was he had all these people that he'd worked with for 30 years, 50 years, you know, they've been part of the same team. They told stories together. They knew each other like they were family. And I was like, Oh, this is, I think this is probably what it's about. If I can start to build that sort of thing. Well, that way if you win an award, you have a whole community that can celebrate the award with you. So it's not just yours. Yeah. I want a community and awards a community. I want a community of awards. Yeah. I don't know. But there's not specific things. I guess make good work with good people would be the very simple. Yeah. Do you have a dream role? Something you haven't played yet that you want to play? I don't think I've played lots of things. I'd like at some point to do a Western. Do you read a lot? Not as much as I should. I try to. Do now? I read a lot of my reading times and ends up being scripts. Well, that makes sense. I think I'm going to read today. There's a new book called Fruit Fly. Everyone's talking about. Okay. And I don't know what it's about. But I remember the last time everyone was talking about a book. It was Gone Girl. That's why I read Gone Girl. And so have you seen Gone Girl? I have. Okay. So you know the point in the movie when it flips and it's from her perspective. Yeah. I read that. And I remember being like super gagged. And it felt different being gagged in a book than being gagged in a movie. Yeah. And so I'm excited to read Fruit Fly because I hope I'm gagged by the book. Yeah. Okay. I'll add that to my. I have like a list of books to get. What's on the list? The one that I just got was Lonesome Dove, which kept on like getting recommended. You know, when they're like videos pop up of people being like, this is a book that you have to read. Yeah. When kept on being on that. And I think it's because I was reading Western. Are you going to TikTok? No, I'm not on TikTok. No. Reels? I get like the TikTok on Instagram. Reels. Yeah. Reels. Thank you. Reels are the best. Yeah. So people kept on recommending Lonesome Dove. So that's my next reading. What's it about? I don't know. Lonesome. Yeah. I think it's another Western book. Oh. Yeah. Which interestingly, I so I love East of Eden. So I'm excited to see the adaptation of that. Let's just come out. Okay. So everybody's talking about East of Eden. And I know you do a lot of period pieces. They're very difficult for me. Really? I never know what anyone's saying. I never know what anyone means. I never, it's very, very difficult because the costumes, the language, what is it? I know it's like, I don't know what I can't relate. Yeah. Like I don't know what it is. Like I somehow by the grace of God did Game of Thrones. I don't know how I did it. Yeah, you liked it. I liked it, but I think I liked it because everyone liked it. And it was like, I need to be a part of this movement that everyone's watching Game of Thrones. Yeah. Yeah. But I, if you asked me like, what happened in Game of Thrones? I could not with a gun to my head tell you. Right. Like I don't remember anything that happened, except for the fact that the last season blew it. Yeah. I haven't watched it. We're watching the sopranos at the moment. That's how is that? Loving it. Okay. Is it really that good? It's great. What's he's going on? Season five, the end of season five. Okay. Have you ever done Breaking Bad? Yes. Loved Breaking Best. Have you ever done better calls all? No. Neither of I. No. Apparently it's better than Breaking Bad. Really? Apparently so. Hi. Hi, ball. I know. Okay. I know people are like, it's better and I'm like, how could it be better? Yeah. That's that's what I'm like, I don't believe you. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, I wouldn't believe that. I'm finishing skins. I'm on the after seasons. Okay. Are you going to watch every single season? I'll probably stop after a few leaves. Right. Because I'm obsessed with that fee. Yeah. Yeah. Do you keep in touch with her? Kyle? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's in the the gentleman. The gentleman. Yeah. Yeah. I also haven't seen and I've got watched that as well. Yeah. But people were like, Louise was like, you wasn't she like a tumbler? She was everything to me. Really? Everything. My sister and I were actually just talking about it. She would wear ripped up tights to school every day to be at home. Oh, I'm obsessed with them. I'm obsessed. She wouldn't speak at all season one. She did not not a word. Then she finally spoke. It's like the sick. I mean, I can't breathe thinking about it. So I have to move on. This is when the the pussy's right in. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm excited to hear what's wrong. What's wrong? Okay. My boyfriend has cheated so many times that we decided to just be in an open relationship. This has actually been working out really great for me. But the craziest thing is now he's getting all weird and jealous. Like he's getting jealous? Narcissist. Like he stopped hooking up with people and it's all mad when I do. We live together and work great otherwise. So what does this mean? And what do I do? Well, he's a narcissist. I mean, it's not yeah, it's not great. You can't have your cake and eat it. It's like giving like Tony Stoneham a bet. So wait, what is the what was the end of the question? Sorry, I miss. She's like, what do I do? Like now like we're in an open relationship. I finally abide into what he wants to do. But now he's upset. And it's given. I know you didn't watch it. But it's giving when Tony is like Chini on Michelle all the time and Michelle finally like find someone else and he gets so upset. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What if you can't handle it then? Late loser. So is he I guess the question is he's he now like, oh, I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, because But no, so the decision she has to make is like whether is she now like I'm into this. No, I think I like that. She you think she needs to break up with her. Imagine being in a relationship and the cause for an open relationship being that oh my god my boyfriend just can't stop cheating on me. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, the ultimately she probably has to break up with them. That is the answer. That is the answer. Break up. Yep. Solved. Yeah. I know sometimes it's easiest off and sometimes it's hard. Do you ever do like fun like cameos where people are like, hey, send me the video like breaking up with my partner, but you'll do it for me or something? No, have you done that? No, just thought about it. I don't know why I want to break up with him. We'll send you a video. Well, yeah, we'll send a video and then breaking the bad news. Should we do it right now? All good news. Yeah, yeah, we don't know the back camera and let's say what should we say? Hey, Steven. So sorry, the open relationship didn't work out for you. Unfortunately, your girl is really enjoying it and thinks that she probably needs to be single and have more fun. Break up. It's over. Do you watch Tommy lies? No, what's up? You just said Steven and toxic and is that I don't know. I just made up a name. No, but he's like the most toxic character on television. Oh, right. He makes Tony look like a saint. Oh, yeah. Like a literal saint. Like this guy is like actually like you watch Tommy lies and you're like, huh? Like you're like, how are you a real person? Well, that sounds fun. Given that he's not. So make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like I had to stop watching because I was like, you I want to kill you. I actually want to like murder you with my hands. Yeah, yeah. Is that bad? I just found out I've been going on dates with my therapist son. Fun. Fine. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's great. That seems like something off a TV show. We matched on the engine really hit it off. We hooked up a few times and got very intimate. He told me his mom's a therapist and got into his family life. Then I noticed in a session with my therapist, he was in a family photo on her desk. Like half of what we do is talk about my dating life. What the actual fuck is do I do? My conscious is killing me. I don't know. I don't know. I literally don't know. I'd get a new therapist. If I wasn't loved with the son, I'd get a new therapist. Yeah. Well, that is a tricky one, isn't it? Uh-huh. I mean, I'd stay for a couple of sessions and just see like when you're talking about what they say. Or like, you know what I mean? It'd be so interesting to be like, oh, you're giving me advice as a therapist, but you're also talking about your son in some ways. So how odd that it'd be so interesting, like the mental gymnastics of that. Oh, if no one knows yet. Stay with it. Stay with it for a little bit. And just see. And I mean, I guess the relationships are all good at the moment. It's just something out, but particularly if this starts to be a little, a few things where it was just a red flag. What's this mean? Whatever. That's the best. And then ask the therapist and see and be like, oh, okay. And you can also say like, oh, if you had a son, what would you tell them? Right. And that's scenario. And the people actually do have a son. Oh, interesting. Like, what's he like? Yeah. What would you do if he did this? Yeah. You know? Yeah. You're actually cheated life. It's, it's, I think it's, I think it's positive. You can, you can use this. Yeah. I'm actually freaking out about that. I would like updates. I would stick with it and tell all my friends. And then like, after a few times, I'd be like, I think your mom's my therapist. Yeah. Yeah. At some point, you've got to be like, are you a good liar? I don't know. I'm not. I can't lie. No. I tried to lie yesterday. Like, my friend was like, okay, don't tell anyone about something. And I was like, okay, I'm just going to tell you right now that I've already told someone. Right. Okay. Because I can't sit in this lie. It makes me feel so dirty. Oh, because you meant to keep a secret. And I knew I was meant to keep it, too. She was like, really? She's so mad. Yeah. Because the situation was so much bigger than that that she ended up getting over it. So that's why I'm like, I have to tell the truth. I think I'm pretty good at keeping other people's secrets. Because I'm like, I forget them mostly. Oh. Very forgetful. So like, he didn't tell me on that thing. And I'm like, genuinely, don't remember what the thing was. Right. Yeah, I don't think I'm a very good liar. That's why sometimes when acting, it's like you try and like prep enough and practice enough that you're like slightly delusional. Uh-huh. And you believe that you're that person or whatever it might be? Are you the method? Not method. No, definitely not method. But like, I couldn't be method. Can you imagine if I went home and trying to be a dad, but also like behaving like Lex Luthor or something? Right. You'd be insane. Or like robbing banks and being like, sorry, I got caught out of a bank today. Yeah. Was that film fun to shoot? There was a lot of fun to shoot. It looked fun. Yeah, we had a great time. Did you get to, did you like do any of your own stunts? I did do some of the driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, which was kind of wild because a lot of the time on films, they're like, they don't let the cast do the stunts. They might do the training or whatever, but then they're like, okay, well now. Because they are what you injured. They're what you injured, but also like, it's a different thing when you're like doing a stunt, particularly with the car. It's a different thing when suddenly like, you're doing it, but there's a camera and 50 crew members right there and whatever. And it's like, this goes wrong. It's not like doing a fight where it's like, oh, someone might get a punch in the face. And it's like, that'll hurt. But like, you could hurt a lot of people. Yeah. And cause a lot of damage. So it's like, so it's an interesting thing. And they were a great stunt team on that film. But like, one of the first few days I was in the car with, with Pete and Renzi and Anna. And they were letting me do the driving. And I'm a pretty good driver. So I felt happy, but also I was like, oh, this is kind of an interesting thing. Like, just be careful with it as well. Cause you are in control of other people's lives. Oh, see, that's why I don't drive. Do you like driverless cars? Do I wear driverless cars? You've been in a driverless car? No, my mom was just in a way. I was just like, I loved it. Really? I can't. But I haven't done it. And by the way, I've never had the experience of like singing alone in a car and like being alone in a car. Right. Interesting. I've never had that. And even in a way mode, you can't have that because there's cameras looking at you. There are. Okay. Yeah, they're like, buckle your seatbelt, bitch. Right. Okay. If you're not buckling this fun. Yeah. This guy I've gone on a couple dates with is so close to perfect. He's so fine. It's not perfect. No one's perfect. Oh. You can't think of anyone as being perfect, right? Right. Set them up to fail. Right. Sorry. Interrupted. Oh, he said so. Yeah, you're right. Nobody's perfect. Yeah. Funny in a crowd. Charmin has a good job. I'm not in a good place. Almost perfect. I'd be like this man is perfect. Yeah. Lots of green flags. You get the idea. The only thing is when we go out together as a couple, we're fine, but we cannot hold the conversation alone together. Well, that's a freaking not perfect. Then is it? No. That's far from perfect. If you cut like literally, you can't talk. Do you say anything to talk about? Do you say in it? In it. Did I just say that? No, no, but do you say it? I don't think I say it a lot. But. It's my favorite. In it. It's my favorite. Oh, it's it's my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. I'll start saying it more. I'll add it to the vocab. Skins. They say it all the time. Skins. We do? Yeah. Great. I'm so excited to watch it for the rest of the day. I'm so shocked by that. It's perfect, but like we can't talk to each other. Yeah, we have nothing to talk about. It's probably the most key thing. Yeah. In a relationship. Probably it's been able to talk about. Even if it's mundane, just like some sort of. That is actually that leads to something. That leads to something. Yeah. Right? I think so. So. Have you ever been in a relationship where you're like, I can't talk to you? No, I don't think so. But I like, I like also being quiet. I like being around people but being quiet. Like phone time or just sitting in silence. Sitting in silence. Really? Yeah. We're not certain. But like. I think it was. Who was it that said someone, someone said this to me. They were like, I really like being quiet in groups. I really like that. I like listening to conversations and being around. (laughing) - Really? - Yeah, we're not certain, but like, like, I think it was, who was it that said, someone said this to me, they were like, I really like being quiet in groups. I really like that. I like listening to conversations and being around people and being like, but I also don't like the pressure of being like, oh, I have to really like uphold, like, I have to bring all the interesting things to talk about. - Got it. - It stresses me out. - Yeah. - Like coming to do some of this, it stresses me out. I woke up a little bit. - NHS? - Yeah, a little bit. - I woke up a little anxious too, and then you were in my apartment. - No. (laughing) - And I wasn't expecting you so, 'cause you were early, you were very on time. - I was punctual. - Yeah. - And I said, I saw Louise, I was ready to be like, "Till Louise, I'm so excited!" And I just finished getting season two last day, because I knew you walked in. And then I was like, "Oh, now I'm stressed." - Yeah, I was quite stressed too. - Really? - We've done all right though, we've done okay. - We've done a great job. - For two stressed people chatting on my face. Are you anxious? Are you an anxious person? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well also, I have like post, post anxiety. - I mean, you know what? - Well, I'll walk out of here, like I'll be kind of okay in here because I'm like, it's happening now. - Yeah. - You're in and then I'll walk out and I'll be like, what the fuck did you say? - If it makes you feel better, I'll feel the same way. - Yeah. - But if it makes you feel 10 times better, you get to watch this back. - I can't watch it back. That would be too painful for me. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I have to watch my own voice back every single week. - Is that tough, or if you're able to be objective about it? - Yep. - I put it on 1.75x speed, 'cause that's the fastest it can go. - Yeah, yeah. - And I just sit there and listen. Like, I literally, like, I want to rip my own vocal chords out of my mouth and stretch them and squeeze them and throw them in the Hudson River. - Is that, so what do you, like, what do you do? - Yeah, because I would hate to have to do that. Like if I hear a voice smell back, someone's like, What would you like watching yourself? And I might be ever heard of voicemail and heard your own voice and been like, that's. You have a great voice, you're breaded at. I hate it. If I hit my own voice, I'm like, I hate that voice. So I'm like, so what's. So how do you like, all right? So you're watching 1.75 and you get to the end and you're like, okay, no notes. Perfect. But how do you then compartmentalize that and feel okay? - So speaking of compartmentalizing, I've been really practicing that lately and the way I do it is I imagine there's Tupperware in my head and I put whatever I'm stressed about in that Tupperware and like imagine closing it and then moving it to the side. It's the only thing that helps me. - I think Tupperware went bust. Like the brand Tupperware, the business, I think they went bust because they were so good at making Tupperware. - And they never bought it again and so they were, I think they were out of business. Just talking of Tupperware. I was hoping this, I was hoping this would come up. - Yeah. - I mean fact check me but I think Tupperware is. - No way! - That'd be like a bandaid file for bankruptcy. - Yeah, but people keep on getting cuts and you can't really reuse clusters. Like Tupperware, the whole point is that you reuse it. - Wow, I can't believe they went bust. - They were too good at doing what they did. - God, I hope they came out all right. I get so sick of my closet, every other week, same. And it's unsustainable at this point. I want to switch up my entire wardrobe all the time and I'm never happier confident with my outfits and style. I just want to naturally feel good about myself and embrace my current clothes because it's starting to break the bank. - Okay, good, I've got a soul for this. - Uh-huh. - This is perfect for me. What you need to do, and I'm saying this because I feel like someone showed me this recently and I was like, oh, this is good. Get your staples, get your feel like. These are the things that work together that I can always wear. And then put away the clothes from the season that you're not wearing. Take them out of the wardrobe or whatever. Put them in a box somewhere else. So that every like six months or three months you get to like transfer like, all right, the winter coats are going away, but this spring stuff's coming out and then like I feel good about these things 'cause they were a good investment. And then like six months later a year later you get to pull out the other things again. And you're like, oh, I forgot about this. There's like, great. - How excited are you for your winter coats to come out? - Oh, very excited. Very excited. - I have a whole collection. I bought a new one yesterday. - Tell me about it. - It's so middle school boy, but it's Chrome hearts. - Okay. - I haven't gotten into the Chrome hearts thing. I love it. - I think I'm probably. - Let me tell you why. - Let me tell you why I love it. It's one of those brands like watches where you have to like kind of bargain. You have to be like, you are going to the store. You're like, what do you have? They're like nothing. And then you're like, no, what do you have? - Interesting. - And then they'll be like, well, I might have this. And then they'll be like, well, bring out what you might have. - How much might that cost? - Yeah, how much might that cost? What do you have? What size? What size are you used to? - I might pay for it. - They brought down this winter coat and it was just beautiful. - Right, okay. - And I look forward to seeing that. - Yeah, it's amazing. So how to rob a bank? - Yes. - Do you think there will be a sequel? How to get out of prison? - It kind of sets up at the end of the day. I think that's just like a fun little cherry on top of the movie. There's no plans to do a follow up. But I like this idea of doing more how to movies. That's what I really loved about the script is idea of like taking, 'cause I love a heist movie. I grew up watching the Italian job, the original one with Michael Cain, quite a lot and stuff. - The original Italian job with Michael Cain? - Is this what that is based off of? - No, no, no, no, no, that's just a good heist movie in my career. But yeah, so there's this fun thing of like having a cops and robbers like Thriller, that element of a movie combined with these social justice elements of how these robbers are then gaining traction and followers and creating a movement for positive effects. So it was felt very original in the script and also then original in how David Leach, the director was like was putting it together because he's a wonderful world builder when you look at like John Wick or bullet train or the full guy, when you look at his movies, they're really unique how he crafts them. So I was like, oh, his vision on top of this script feels very original and different and it's like a fun big action movie. - There's Billie Eilish in there. - There is Billie Eilish in there. It's a good soundtrack, great soundtrack. There's also that Fred again song. I'd like to go to a Fred again concert. - I would die to go to a Fred again concert. - Did you see the thing he did at Ali Pali recently? - No. - He did the thing at Ali Pali, it was unreal. I was like how was I not there? And they played that born slippy song, born slippy from Train Spotting. I sent it to you. Classic like 90s rave song. - With send it to me last time. - So anyway, they soundtrack to the movies, yeah. - Awesome. And it's like a fun cinematic experience of like oh, but then you hopefully walk out of there feeling like a new sense of like empathy and understanding for people and also like this idea of like what people are dealing with in terms of the social elements of this movie and these big conglomerate companies and late stage capitalism and how that's affecting all of our lives, I guess. Did you, where did you guys film? - Pittsburgh. - Pittsburgh. - Yeah, which is awesome saying. - Steelers. - Yeah. - I went to a Steelers game. I had a very cool moment actually at the Steelers game because I met Aaron Rodgers like maybe 10 years ago. He had visited a film I was on and he's, I remember one day he had a football, he threw a football I caught and I was like, but then we were on the sideline. He now, he then played for them for the Steelers. And we were on the sidelines watching and then he kind of looked over and recognized me and came and said hello. And I was like wow, he's got an incredible memory. And I was talking to the team who worked for the Steelers and they were like his memory is unreal. - Where did he first meet you? - When we were filming one of the X-Men movies, and it was a very brief encounter. Very brief. So I was so shocked that he remembered who I was. Also a terrifying sport experience. I went to a Pirates game. I was like, hey, can we get tickets to the Pirates game? - That's a baseball game, yeah. - And they got tickets and then they were like, oh, and you're throwing out the first pitch. And I was like, well, never throwing a baseball in my life. And then all week in the buildup, everyone was like, oh, did you see when this person did this? And it was terrible. And did you see this video? And it was like laughable. - How did you do? - I got it there. I was so anxious. It was hot. I was sweating. I was like, oh my God, I was never been more shut. And it's like, it's out of your comfort zone. 30,000 people in sports stadium. It's like, this is not where I want to be. And then they're like, and you're on the big screen. But throw the ball. And I was like, okay, don't just make sure you get it all the way there. You don't love attention to you. I don't really like attention, no. That's why you know what? You know we're going to be great friends. Yes, because I love attention. Yeah, I do like being close to people who like attention. Really? Yeah. Oh, we're going to be best friends. Yeah. Can I tell you about my winter coat? Yeah, please. It's black, oversized, long, like a trench coat. Yeah, like a long trench wool. And I got it out the other day. I'm like, whoo, where's it from? Fear of God. Okay. Yeah, I stole it off a shoot, didn't I? Do you think I'm too short to wear a trench coat? Okay. I think you just have to get the right length in terms of if this is like the knee or the low knee, or like, are you excited to whip it out? I'm excited to whip it out. I'm very excited to whip it out. Do you think my suggestion for the wardrobe was good? Are you still thinking about that? Yeah. Yeah, it's brilliant. I do the same thing. All I can think about is my winter coats and they're in that closet over there. See, I do it, but I don't, I don't, I don't practice why I preach some. You know, I don't practice what I preach. Are you serious? Ever. I give, sometimes I'm like, the advice I give, I'm like, that's amazing. I'll never ever do that in my entire life, ever. Hmm. Well, Nicholas or Nick, sorry. What did we do? This has been so fun. And I don't want our friendship to end. We're going to see Oasis with Daisy. It's on in Boston. In Boston. In Boston. Because that's where Daisy and I were like, we're going to see Oasis in Boston. Oh, let's do it. Glastonbury, if they play Glastonbury. Don't play with me. I want to laugh for you so badly. I feel like that would be peak. Peak experience. Peak. Peak. Is that, you know, that's like a saying I've seen on TikTok recently. Oh, it's peak. That's peak. Oh, yeah. Someone would be like Skins is peak. Yeah. Or like Mr. Robot, which reminds me of how to rob a bank. Like very similar. Have you ever seen Mr. Robot? No. You've got to watch Mr. Robot. Okay. It's amazing. Okay. Um, that reminds me. That's peak. Peak. Peak. So Nick, what did we learn today? I don't know. That's usually the takeaway people have. Um, I learned that you don't. You've never seen Skins really besides two episodes. Yeah. We learned that. We learned that we both like coffee. And that bleaching your hair was actually good for your hair, which was shocking to me. Yeah, bleaching is good for half camera. Uh, yeah. That's good. It gave some texture. My hair's very fine. Um, we spoke about shaving our heads. How we feel about that? I think I'm going to. You're going to stick with it. I think I'm going to stick with it. And I think I'm going to bleach it. I think you should bleach it. You do? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm an advocate bleaching hair now. Uh, you're good at it. I'm an advocate. Okay. I wouldn't say I'm good for it. Got it. Yeah. I wouldn't do it. Well, Nick, thank you for coming out there. Thanks for having me. It's been lovely. It's been so lovely. Yeah. Wow. Lovely. That's what Cassie always says. Wow. Lovely. Yeah. All right. Do you want to give a little bypasses? Oh, yes. Oh. Yes. I don't know if I can. Would you want to do it together? Yeah. Please. One, two, three. Bye, Pussy. Bye, Pussy.