Session 150: Lisa

[MUSIC] >> Yeah, so we start with, where's your favorite Thai spot in LA? >> Okay, I like Tuck, Tuck, Tye, but my favorite is Anna-Jack. >> Okay, okay, I'm glad that you didn't say the, okay, okay. >> What do you glad I didn't say? >> [LAUGH] >> What's your favorite? >> My favorite, I have few, do you know, have you ever tried Thai boat noodle? >> I know exactly what you're talking about and I've never had it, but I've been dying to try it. >> I found like the good spot in LA in a Thai town called Mamalai. >> Uh-huh. >> Mamalai, so it's a Thai boat noodle that have like a dry boat noodle, like they have Tom Yum boat noodle, so good. >> I love Tom Yum too. >> Yes, it's so good. And I have like a few, have you been to Thai town? >> Yes. >> They have a place, a dessert place called Kanoban Kanoban. They have like a toast with like a pandan sauce, with a pandan ice cream, and they have like a Thai tea-shaped ice. >> That sounds amazing. Thai tea is one of my favorite things in the entire world. >> So good. >> So good. >> Yeah, so that's my favorite place. >> Well, welcome to Therapist. >> Thank you, thank you for having me. >> Thanks for being here and congratulations on your VMA win last night. >> I know, thank you. >> For dream. >> For dream. >> And what is the very special song, very vulnerable song. >> Yes, it's very special. >> Yeah. >> It was also, that's a fan voted award. >> Right? >> Yes. >> So you're- >> It's crazy. >> Yeah, it's crazy. >> I love my fans. I mean, thank you, Lili. >> What did it feel like to win your first, that was your first non-K-pop award, right? Your first solo award, what did that feel like? >> It's so special because it's, the song is stream. It's about, you know, my personal, you know, inspired by my personal story. >> So it's, and it's my first, like, you know, like a personal stuff going out to the world, which is, you know, like me and my team were, we were like, oh, we're not sure that is that okay, too. We put out this out, but we were like, okay, it doesn't matter, you know, it's my first. It's personal, you know? >> Yeah. >> But I think a lot of people can rely on, relate on to this song because it's stream. It's about, in the relationship with someone, it could be your friends, your, you know, your families, or, you know, or it could be, like, love relationship. But you couldn't see that person anymore. You can only see them in your dreams. So I think a lot of people can relate. So we're like, okay, let's put it out and now I got this, it's like, it's crazy. >> And does it feel like, does it amp you up for like your biggest residency and like everything? >> Yeah, definitely. Last night, and also, I did Sawadika performing for the first time ever at the VMA. So it's like, it's crazy. Now I'm like, okay, I'm looking forward for my residency. >> Yeah. Were you nervous before? >> I was so nervous. Still nervous. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, but yeah, I'm going to get, um, start with the rehearsal and everything and get ready for the biggest residency. >> It's going to be so awesome. I have to come see it. >> Please. >> I will. >> I will. >> I will. >> I will. >> I will. >> I can do like 24 hours. >> That's Vegas. >> That's like the biggest, like, I have the big studio there. >> Yeah. >> That we, um, that we read to or whatever. >> Yeah. >> So we stayed there for like three, four days. >> Yeah. >> Oh, wow. I mean, I guess it's that's a dip. That's like, like, proper Vegas, not like casino Vegas. >> But you can do only 24 hours. >> 24 hours. >> Okay. >> That's good enough. >> Yeah. I mean, I'll come see the show and- >> Yeah. >> And then you just buy. >> And I heard you like tequila shots. >> Oh, my goodness. >> I'm a vodka girl. >> But I'll drink tequila for you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I'll drink tequila for you. >> Or I'll drink vodka for you. >> No, Lisa. >> Why? >> I'm not, I'm not making you drink vodka for me. I'm drinking tequila. >> Why not? >> Because it's your show. >> Okay. >> And you're the star. >> Oh, it's so sweet. >> It's true. >> Imagine me being like Lisa. You're gonna have to drink vodka for me. >> I can do one or two. >> Oh, but the thing is I can do tequila. I can do tequila. And I need to grow up. Tequila's for grownups. >> Bokka for babies. Bokka for babies. >> I thought it's a switch. >> No, no. I once told someone. >> No, no. I once told someone. >> No, I once told someone I drank vodka shot. And they said, oh, grow up. And I said, yeah. That's about right. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. So we'll do tequila shots. >> We'll do tequila shots. >> Yes. >> I watched your documentary. Oh, is Lalisa. I found it so incredibly moving. I was really not expecting you to open up the way you did. I had no idea about so many things. I didn't know that you changed your name when you were 13 years old. >> Yes, I did. >> Because a fortune teller told your mom. >> I know. >> What was that telling your friends? I have a different name now. >> I feel like in Thai culture, I think that's not normal normal. >> Okay, got it. >> It's not like a questioning question. It's not like, why are you changing your name? It's more like, oh, you went to see a fortune teller. Cool. And they asked you to change your name? Cool. >> Yeah. >> It's like, they're more like, oh, who? Like, I want to go. I want to go see this fortune teller. Like, can you tell me? Like, tea. >> Yeah. >> They love. And there's a lot of, oh, my friends went to the same fortune teller. Like, few of my friends changed their names. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> Wow, I've never been to Thailand. >> Oh, my God, you have to go. You're going to love Thailand. >> I know. >> If you love Thai food. >> It's one of my favorites. >> If you love Anna Jack. >> Yeah. I've been desperate, desperate, desperate to go. I tried to go in high school and I couldn't. And I need to go. And then after seeing you in White Lotus, seeing that season, I was like, I have to go. >> I know. It makes you want to go, no? >> It's beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful places in the entire world. >> No. Yeah. But I'm a bias, so I think yes. When you filmed White Lotus, was that like the most time you had spent in Thailand consecutively since you moved to Korea? >> Yes. >> Wow. >> Yes. Usually, I just go there for a week or two and that's it. And yeah, that was like the first time after I moved to Korea. And I spend that long in Thailand. It's like six, seven months, even though it's like back and forth. >> Yeah. >> Like two weeks in Thailand, back to LA work, come back, stay one week, go back. So it's like, it's really nice for me to like connect, like reconnect to my root. And also my mom, she, she goes everywhere with me. Like she was at the set. She also, on the White Lotus. >> She is? >> Yeah. >> Where? >> It's like somewhere behind. >> Yeah. >> But so awesome. >> Yeah. >> She's like, she's like, she's all glammed up, sitting. >> Uh-huh. >> Like, and it's like, I don't remember which scene, but she was in the White Lotus. >> Yeah. >> It's so fun to get to include your family. >> I know. >> It makes it so much more special. >> Yeah, she's like, oh my god. I got a debut as an actress. >> She's so cute. >> And yeah. >> How did you find acting? Did you enjoy it? >> Yes. >> And I enjoy it, but still new to me, I still get nervous all the time. I'm like, I still dream like, I couldn't, that I couldn't remember my lines. And I was like, you know, it's like a nightmare. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, but it's fun. >> Do you have like bad anxiety? >> Bad anxiety. Not really. But it just, you know, I get nervous every single time. Because I don't want to say something wrong, and I always say something wrong. >> Really, you think that? >> Yeah. I always say wrong, like, line. >> Oh, you mean on, like, set. >> On set. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. >> Always. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And the White Lotus, I'm like, oh my god. I can't say something wrong in front of my quite. >> I know. I know, but he's so lovely now. >> Oh, she's so sweet. >> So sweet. >> Wonderful. I love. I miss him. >> Do you guys keep in touch? >> We have like a group chat, but we don't really send anything to the group chat anymore. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, because I feel like everybody now has their own schedule. So, you know, like, in a different time zone. So we don't want to, like, you know, send the message to, like, wake someone up, you know. >> I've actually started thinking about that recently. When I text people, I'm like, oh, I wonder what time it is for them. >> I've started to, like, care. >> But not earlier. >> Wait, no, I could be waking someone up right now. Because when I go to bed, my phone's on silent, so I just don't. >> Okay. Wakes me up. Oh my god. Always like when I when I come to LA always My friends always text me like 2 a.m. In the morning and you're like I'm like I need to sleep guys Yeah, but I don't do like night like a night mode or what he called night mode Yeah, well, there's night mode and there's do not. Yeah. Yeah. I don't do that You just keep your phone on just in case because you know, you never know You never know. Yeah, so just in case someone needs me or like yeah, or my mom needs me or you know So, but yeah, always 2 a.m. 3 a.m. in the morning phone calls or text like Please like don't you know that like I'm not in Thailand or something right? Yeah, but it's fine But you still have all your friends from childhood. Yes. Yes. It's a documentary Yeah, yeah, it's all of them all how how did you keep that relationship with them while you're at? YG training camp hmm. I don't know. I just naturally just um, I feel like every single time I go back to Thailand I see them. I meet them. I have a Good dinner lunch. Yeah, or just go shopping with them. It's just they're like my safe zone. Yeah I have those people to like from college Mm-hmm, and you know like yeah, they don't judge you whatever they judge you and they'll never leave you Yeah, and I feel like I saw you talk about something in the documentary where it was like you were When you were in training camp, like everyone was constantly on edge. Yeah, right? Because ever you could have been eliminated at any every sense of the way. Yeah Do you feel as though like as you've begun your solo career that like that's some that feeling is something you still carry with you Even though it's oh not part of you anymore. Oh that feeling yeah that feeling of like oh this could go away or this could Not anymore. I think that feeling just gone right after we know that we're become We're gonna be black pink like when did you guys feel like oh, we are the biggest group in the entire world Like when did that moment hit for you guys I feel like the 20 2019 Coachella, yeah, I was like, oh wow, okay, we're People a lot of people know us Like not just in Korea or in Asia, but more like internationally. So I think that was like the time that we're like oh Wow, okay, so this is happening. Yeah, yeah, and I didn't know that you couldn't do anything without reporting to your label Like what was that like no, it's just like it's just more like We have to tell you like we have to tell parents. Yeah, it's like it's something like that. Yeah, it's just more like okay Mom okay dad. I'm gonna go out with friends like I'll be back what time what time is it's more like that It's not like no, you can't go, but you know, just it's just have to a little report so To keep us safe. Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, and you still you still live in Korea, right? Barely, yeah, I still have my place in Korea, but now I'm just everywhere. I don't know. Do you have a day off? I do Yeah, and how do you spend those days off? Oh I I don't pick up my phone calls. Yeah, and I mean my team knows that it's my day off. They don't touch me They're like, okay, let this girl live her life And they need to live their life as well. Yeah, you know, so we're like, okay, okay Bye, I'll see you in in two weeks. Yeah, they're like, but sometimes if they really meets me They're like they're really like I'm sorry Lisa. Can you please? Check this or you know, but still, you know, we have our boundaries and I have day off and I just had like a one month off Oh, wow, yeah, before Sawadika comes out. So it's like that song is amazing. It's it's songs amazing like Yes, no I was wondering what the hustle bus was back there. Oh, let me put this on right now It's a Sawadiva. Sawadiva. Yeah, so attima. Yeah, but I just we're just like do like a little like funny like phrase like Sawadiva Like Sawadika diva, but we shorten to Sawadiva Thank you Seaky for sponsoring tonight's episode someone just came on the show when we were just talking about how much fun We have when we see live music. 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What made you choose that as the first song off the EP off the EP I I feel like it's a good introduction for this EP because it's so idka is the first thing you say when you say hi to people So that's why I want to put this out. Yeah, put it for it. Yeah first and So you were inspired a lot by your Thai roots for this EP as opposed to the previous album, right? Yes. Can you tell me more about that? Like what I said earlier that I have spent I had spent time in Thailand like six seven months and then I feel like I Is still so good that I reconnect to my root again. Mm-hmm. It's like everything like food Friends families is the weather. Yeah, you know, it's everything. It's just like oh, we got I missed this so much I've been living in Korea since I was 14 until I was what 26 27 and then yeah, so it's like It's it feels so good to be back home like home home the real home so um when we're doing um our uh this EP We're just like okay like I have so many like inspiration from from my hometown So it's like what like I want to I want to put took took in my music video. I want to do this. I want to do that like I have so many like Um like a mood board. Yeah, yeah, and then where we're talking like oh like what if we put like a Thai sound And mix with like a pop sound. I heard it. Yeah, it's track. Yes Can we say the name now like uh in Tarantino? Yes. Yeah, like it's a it's a Thai guitar. Oh It's a Thai guitar and I'm like I never It's just like the the producer is he's He's crazy that he's just like put That Thai sound with mix with like a pop it just it's incredible. Yeah, like I I was like Wow, this this is the song when I first hear the only the The opening with the guitar. I'm like I'm so excited to hear the whole song and then yeah Oh, it's like a lot. It's an incredible EP. I was gonna ask you you travel all the time Mm-hmm. All the time. Yes, all the time. You must be watching and listening to something on the plane. Yeah What are you watching listening to? Oh Do you say I don't watch I don't listen? I read you read Fuck I read I don't read a book in so long. I know. I just started what what do you read in um I read oh wait The monk who sold his Ferrari. That's the name. Oh, you love cars. Yeah, I just learned this about it Yeah, I love car and I walk past a bookshop. Uh-huh And I saw that it's like the the monk who sold his Ferrari. I'm like what? Why is all his Ferrari? And I want to know and now I'm reading it. Is it interesting? It is interesting But I was so busy so I'm like I couldn't I want to be like With myself alone time and read yeah, I don't want to be like on the run like on in a car. I like this I can't like concentrate. I am the I can't concentrate for anything. So I haven't finished yet. It's so sad But I will soon I'll start my book tonight in honor of you. What are you going to read? It's called fruit fly fruit fly And everyone's have you heard about this book? I've been dying to read it. Oh, will I have an extra copy? Oh Yes, you - Wait, what's about? - I don't know. - Okay. - I'm someone that I need to call myself a sheep. Like I follow, I follow a trend that I'll create some. So like if I hear someone's like, I'm like, ooh, someone's talking about this. I'm like, ooh, I want that. - Oh, okay, okay. - That's kind of like how I am. - Same, same as me. - Yeah, do you like, do you like collect anything? Are you a collector? - I used to collect La Booboo's. - You started La Booboo's, you started La Booboo's. - I'm sorry. - You know this? - Sorry. - Yes. - You, La Booboo's work, how did you come about to La Booboo? How did like, how did this all come about? 'Cause after you posted with La Booboo, it exploded in a way that I had not seen silly bands. - Okay, first of all, I never heard about, I never heard of this little cutie. - Yeah. - It was like, what is La Booboo? So I went back to Thailand, meet with my friends, and then one of my friends said, oh my god, I want to go to the pop-mart. I was like, what is pop-mart? I was like, let's go, let's go, I want to, I want La Booboo. I was like, okay, fine, okay, it's our toy, yeah, okay, fine. So I went there and she was like, oh no, it's sold out. I'm like, what is that so hard to get? She was like, yes girl, like, what, where have you been? I was like, okay, and then they show me the La Booboo that they want and the color is so cute. It's like pink, I don't know, like beige, green matcha. I was like, I want the green matcha, like, I want the green matcha. So I was like, and I ended up buying a whole box. I mean, getting a whole box. And then, and it started from there. - And then you just had this huge collection? - Yeah, it started from there and my friend kept sending me stuff that, oh, there's a limited edition of this La Booboo, like, this is really rare, like, really hard to get. I was like, that's challenged me. - Yeah. - I was like, hard to get. - I'll get it. - I feel the same way about things. I feel the same way I'm like, hard to get. I want it now. - I want it now, like, now, now. I was just so lucky to get not every single thing, not every single collection, but almost in my house right now. - You got it. - So, yeah. And now I'm like, okay, I have no space to walk. - My house. - 'Cause there's just La Booboo's everywhere. - Yes, yeah. - So, they're, like, smiling at me, like, everywhere, I'm like, cool. Hi. - Thank you, Amazon Prime, for sponsoring today's episode. So today, I want to talk about something that has been part of my life forever and has genuinely changed it for the better. And that's Prime. If you haven't heard of it, although I know you all know this. Prime, but not only has incredibly fast shipping, but it also has all of your favorite shows and movies to stream. So with that combination, I'm not just asking myself, why do I want to watch? I'm asking, how do I want to feel while I'm watching it? And today, I'm gonna be honest. I'm feeling miserable as always, but I like it that way. So I ordered a weighted blanket, a silk pillowcase, a weighted eye mask, and a fan. And after this, I'm gonna head to the couch and give my entire life to a sci-fi series or thriller series for the rest of the day. And the best part, my order was already delivered. It really is that fast. Last week, I was feeling super inspired and I couldn't stop watching music biopics. And that's what I love about Prime. Whatever mood you're in, it has you covered. Last week with music biopics, this week is horror. I don't know what's next, but I know that Prime will be there for me. You can literally curate your entire day around how you're feeling. From streaming to fast shipping, it's on Prime. Thank you again, Prime, for working with me on today's episode. (upbeat music) - Well, Lisa, what are you therapist about today? - Ah, today? - Just today, in the week. - Angry? No, not really. - Ah, I'm so jealous. (laughs) How have you? - I'm angry every day about everything. - Oh my God, no. - Like, I have a deviated septum. I need to get fixed that I can't stop thinking about. - So you don't have your day off? - No, I. (laughs) So the thing is, I do. (laughs) - You need day off. - No, the thing is, you just clocked me in a way. (laughs) I don't even think. - I'm sorry. - You've realized you clocked me. It's like, I have so many days off and I do nothing with them. - Oh, with them. - I just push it off, push it off, push it off, push it off. - No, it's okay. Is it like. - It's just like, I can like, my ear plugs. I'm like, "Oh, God." Maybe I think I live to complain. - Oh. - Yeah. I think that's what it is. - Same. - So, trainee camp sounded like it was like a lot. - Mm-hmm. - And you were there for how many years until you debuted? - Five years. - Five years. - Five. - Do you have a favorite memory or what, when did you realize like, "Oh, it's gonna be us for?" - I don't know. It's like a last, I feel like last two years or year and a half where like, we're just stick together only four of us and we know that it's gonna be only four of us. But even though that takes time for us to like, you know, find the right song to put out, to put out for the first song and we chose Whistle and Bumbaya. - Bumbaya. - I love, I love, but I can't do that anymore. It's like, my neck is not as young. It's like, it's two. - I love the song, what song on? ♪ Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na When a jump came out, I was like, "Oh my God, like I was moving." And that music video is unbelievable. - I know, it's crazy. - When I'm 1,000 years like this. - I know. - Dave Meyer, he's amazing. We have so much fun. - I've worked with Dave Meyer. - Dave Meyer, yeah. - He did my puppy ad. (laughs) He's amazing. - He's amazing. - He's amazing. I didn't know he did that. - Yeah, he did jump. - Wow. - He doesn't, he did a new woman for my song as well. - Oh wow, okay. - Yeah, with Rosalia. - Wow, what was it like working with Rosalia? - I miss her, I love her. - She's amazing. - She's amazing. She's so professional. - Yeah. - I learned a lot from her on set. I'm like, "Oh wow." - What'd you learn? - She's so professional. She's just like, she just know how to, you know, how to move. And like, I was just like, I thought I could just like stand, but she's like, it's Kersma. - Yeah. - Her Kersma is different. - Yeah. - That's it. - Yeah. - Do you feel like you're learning as you step more into your solo career? Do you feel like you're learning more how to like express your own creativity as opposed to like abiding by what someone gives you and tells you to do? - Yeah, I feel like she's so creative, like on set. Like, even though it's not her part, but she knows how she's, she just like, pop like a bubble gum. She's like, she's like, wow, I never thought about that, you know, just like some little thing that she just do it. And it's her. - Yeah, and I saw you also work with Tyla. And she was like, she was like telling you, she was like, "Oh, touch it." Like, dude, the stuff's so embarrassing. - Wait, no, it was not. He saw it. - He was so hot. - He was so hot. - But you're hotter. (laughing) You're hotter. And like, also like, that was a really sweet moment in the documentary. - Every single time that scene come out, I'm like, I can't watch. I'm like. - Yeah. Yeah. - I can't watch myself, I'm like, (growling) Bye. - Yeah, because you were so used to only dancing with your three sisters. - Yes. - Yeah. And do you guys still keep in touch? - Yeah, so all they just text me last night, like, congratulations on the, on the, yeah. You did rock star at the VMAs as well. - Yes. - What was different from performing, like, how did you feel differently from performing this year at the VMAs, from performing rock star at the VMAs? - Well, it's a little different. I feel like that was like the first time that I was like, you know, doing my solo song at the VMA because before that, it was black pink. - Yeah. - We did pink venom. But I feel like it's still the same. Like, the inside, it's just like, I'm nervous and I want to do good. So it's the same, but it's a little different is, I know, I know what to do. - Yeah. - Like, I know how to focus, how to like, you know, not to, not being like, oh my god, oh my god, what, what's next, what's next. - Yeah. - So I'm more calm. - Yeah. - I guess. - Like, 5% more calm. - Do you enter like a different persona when you step on stage? - I don't, I don't think so. It's just, it's always like, always like Lisa. - It's always me, it's always like Lisa, but I feel like, I feel like stage is my safe zone and I'm doing, I'm not doing something too crazy. I know what I'm doing and I practice for it. So I kind of know what I can, what to expect. But of course, like, when I see the audience, my fans, they're screaming, they're having fun with me. It's just, I just gain energy through that and like, I can do more on stage. - Do you have the song you're most excited to perform off the EP? - Oh. Oh. So many. I excited to perform V12. And we, so many, every single one, every single of them, V12. Cobra. - Cobra. - I love Cobra. - I love Tarantino. - I love Tarantino. - I really hope you do Dream. - I will. - I love that song. - I will. - I like when I saw you won for Best Pop. And it was for Dream. I was like, oh. I love that song and watching you show it to your friends. And then you told them that you were like, I think everyone thinks they know who this is about, but they don't know who it's about. - Yeah. - What was awesome. - Well, I hope he saw that I won that with his song. - Exactly. - Yeah. - I love your use of samples. - Yeah. - I love that song scene that was little. - Yeah. - What were some of your favorite songs growing up? - I love a lot of Britney Spears music as well when I was little because my cousin, she's the big fan of Britney Spears. So I listened to, wait, was it called toxic? No. - Yeah, toxic. - It's toxic. Circus, yeah. - Oh, so good. Yeah. And I'm not growing up. Justin Bieber. - Yeah. Always. - Yes. - Always Justin Bieber. - Yes, Rihanna, Beyonce. Lady Gaga. - Oh. - Yeah. - What are some of your favorite memories from growing up before you went to trainee camp? - What's my favorite? Like some of your favorite memories growing up in Thailand. - Oh, every single, no, not every single birthday of my bum. That's one birthday party. I had like a little party at my house when I was 10. And then I invited my friends over and my dad cooked them like a chocolate mousse. It's so good. And then he gave me the envelope. I was like, well, what is this? And he was like, open it. Open it. I'm like, okay. And I opened it. It's a Disney Land ticket. Tickets for my birthday. I'm like, oh, because he knows that I love Disney so much. And I wanted to go to Disney Land. And Hong Kong, Disney Land is like the closest for us to fly from Thailand, you know? So yeah, that's like that's still like fresh in my head. It's like the most like good memory of, yeah, when I was the child. Should we get into the tummy? What's wrong? - Okay. What is this? - These are where people write in questions and we give them advice. - Oh. - Yeah. - Oh my gosh. - So it's fine. - Okay. - I have this bit where whenever me and my friends are out, I always make up fake stuff that they've done. Sad, et cetera. I know on paper, this sounds evil, but it's always so clearly a joke. And we always leads to us endearing ourselves to whatever new group we're with, but my friends hate it. Oh, so she, they make, when they go out, when they go out, she makes up stories like that she lies. - Okay. - She lies and makes up stories to make new friends. And her friends get really angry about it, but she loves it. I would say keep doing you. That's what I would say. - Yeah. Why not? - Right. - We make new friends, but the friends who already friends hate it. - Yeah, like stop lying about us, like stop making up stuff. It would be like if I went out and was like pretended to be British and like pretended that way. - What does that have fun though? - Yeah, I think it's fun. - We need, we need that kind of friends in the group. - Agreed. - Right. - Do you like to go out? - Not really. - Really? - Sometimes. Do you? - Mm-hmm. - That's why I said I could go vodka, I could go tequila, I could go gin, I could go whatever you need. - Yeah. - Okay, even though you love vodka, if you see me, you'll be like, oh, I love tequila. - Yes, yes. - Yes, yes. - Shape shifter. - Yes. - But like, I do, like, yeah, I love to go out, do you have like a favorite? Well, you said the first time you ever went clubbing was when you were 25. - Yeah, in Vegas. - In Vegas. - That's my first club. - Did you go to excess? - I don't know where. I don't remember. I don't know names. - Yeah. - I just go in and then I don't ask like where. What was your first clubbing experience like? - So good. - It's so fun. - So good. I think I start to drink tequila since that first club. And then it's my throat, it's just, you know, my throat is just, my voice is gone the day after. And then I keep doing that for like a couple months and now like, I'm good, I'm fine. Like after tequila shot, day after I can, I can sing, yeah. - Yeah, I learned recently that like, I'm a grown-up now. - Yeah, no, that's what it feels like. I'm like, okay, like I feel like I can take more than I think, you know, because sometimes when I go out, I'm like, I can move, like, do you get hung over? - Every single time. - What do you, what's your, like, what do you do when you're hung over? I assume you just have to push through. - Coconut water. - Oh, really? - I drink coconut water, sleep a lot, some, a cup noodle. - What is yours, like, sleeping routine? Do you sleep hot? Do you sleep cold? - Sleep hot. - How hot? - Sleep warm. Can I say warm, not hot? - Yeah. - It's just like, it's just like, still here. - Mm-hmm. And like, no air conditioner. - No air. - Okay. I sleep at 62 degrees. - Yeah, but at least hot now. Today is really hot. - I know. - Please? - It was so ungodly hot the other week that I left the house and just walked back inside and said, I'm not doing this. - You're like, I'm not going out. - I'm not going out. I said, I'm not doing this. I'm going to go watch TV, which I do all the time. - What do you watch? What's your favorite show? - Oh my god. Okay. What type of shows do you like? Like, what type of show would you want to watch? Because I'll give you a recommendation based off of that. - Mm-hmm. Something cutesy. - If you want something cutesy, I think you would really like off campus. - Wait, I think I watched like the first episode or something. - It gets really, really good. - It's season two. - I was locked. Yes, and they're already filming. Like, so you can just lock it now. - Okay. - Off campus is amazing. - Okay. - I loved. Well, if you want something like juicy, like my favorite show of all time is Scandal. - Scandal? - With Carrie Washington. It's about a woman who runs this like PR crisis firm in like DC that like help. - Like clients with like emergencies. - Oh. - And it's very scandalous. - Okay, juicy. - Very juicy. - Very juicy. - Very juicy. - Okay. - She's hooking up with the president. - Oh my god. - Yeah. - Okay. Okay, okay. - It's the best show ever. - But it was Scandal? - Scandal. - Okay, Scandal. - It is seven seasons. You will. So if you're ever like, if you're ever like, I'm so bored. What do I do? Scandal. - Oh. - I've rewatched it three times. - Wow. - So I'm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. - Okay. Seven seasons. - Yeah. - Okay. - What is your speaking of season? - No. - What is your favorite season of the year? - What? I love. I love fall. - Me too. Fall and spring. Summer's too hot. Winter's too cold. - Yeah. Same. - You know. - Winter? Oh. No. - Winter's the Dark Ages. - I can't, I can't do winter. But I have a lot of beautiful coats. So. - I was thinking about you. I was thinking about coats the other day. I was like, I'm so excited to wear you in the winter. - I know. But I hate winter, but yeah. - Do you love to shop? - I love shopping. - More than anything in the world. - Oh, I need to stop. - No, you don't. - I told myself to stop. - You deserve it. - Okay. Yes, we deserve it. - We deserve it. - Yeah, we deserve it. - We deserve it. - What's your favorite thing to shop for? - Oh. Coats. - Coats. Coats feel like the most like you get the most wear for them. I love watches. - Oh, you love watches. - I used to collect like love watches, but not anymore. - That's why when you say timepiece from Jenny. - Everybody, if you know it, then you know. - Now I changed to collecting cars. - You're collecting cars? - Yeah. But not like, I don't want to say like, I'm a collector. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm a collector. - Yeah. - I'm a collector, yeah. - Well, you know, they just released their first four-seater Ferrari. - Sorry. - They just released their first four-seater Ferrari. - Yes. - I was in it yesterday. I was like, ooh. - Oh, the nuance. - Yeah, it was like four. Because I've only ever been in a two-seater Ferrari. And it was four seats. It was like a proper like SUV. - Like a SUV. - Not an SUV, but like a. - Wait, which one are you talking about? - I couldn't tell you the name. - Oh, I guess it's just they just released. - Yeah. - I was told it was the first four-seater. - Oh. - Am I right? - You have the Ferrari. - Pro-Sungate. - Yeah. - Pro-Sungate. I have. - I have that. - My ex and I broke up a little over a month ago. And it ended really badly. I finally felt okay and felt like I was moving on. And then he got a job at my work. I have to see him multiple times a day. And he purposefully parks right beside me in the parking lot. Even though the law is huge. He's been in try hard mode too. Sucking up to the boss. And my theory is he's talking shit about me to my co-workers. This is unhinged to please help me. I know. - He did it on purpose. - He's of course. Men are evil. Men are evil and easy. - Red flag. - Yeah. - Oh my god. - So here's what I would do if I were her. - Why? - I would start playing the game right back. Like you have to, like if he is, or actually, you know what, my frontal lobe is developed. So let me take back my answer. - Okay. - If I were her, I would just take the high road. I know that everyone's true colors come out eventually. - Uh-huh. - And his true colors will come out eventually. - So you're just gonna wait. - I just waited out the waiting game. - Okay. - Your bosses will see, 'cause she's scared that he is, like, kind of talking, trying to get, he got a job where she works, and she's scared that he's trying to get her out. - Oh. - Right. - I don't know how people have to deal with this. - I know. - I was like, how? - I know. - I don't even know. - But what is your biggest red flag in a relationship? (gasps) - And biggest, biggest green flag. (gasps) - Biggest red flag. - I went to a sushi place with my mom and my one of my best friends. And it's like, it's like, it's like, it's our favorite, like, our favorite spot. And I was like, oh my god, I'm taking my mom, bringing my mom and my friends is here too. It's like only three of us, three girls, like we're gonna eat. And I was just like joking. I was like, oh, are you gonna pay for us? You know, take care of the bill. It's like, no. (laughs) - Even if I'm kidding, say yes. (laughs) - I'm like, is that a red flag or no? - Yes. - It's like, it's like, it's like, it's-- - You're a rock star and you should be treated as such. - I mean, I'm not like, I'm not asking for, to pay my meal every single time, you know, it's just like-- - But also, if he's courting you, I'm like trying to gain your love. I think, and you were making the joke, like, yeah, pay for me, pay for me. I was like, I thought it's like, oh, maybe you just say no, and he's gonna, like, surprise later that, like, oh, no, no, surprise, I paid. - Yeah. - Yeah, so it's like, oh, that's a surprise. - Yeah, that's a surprise. - Okay, this is a surprise. I'm paying myself. I was like, cool. - What is your biggest green flag? - Everything little thing, you know, it's just like, open a water for you. Like, you know, it's like, it's just a little tiny thing that it's nice. - Yeah. - It's like-- - I can't do it by myself, but I'm just like, just doing something that you don't even have to ask. - Yeah, so it's like, what is that? What type of love language is that? - Access. - Access, there's like multiple love languages. And I think my love language is words of affirmation. - What is affirmation? - So, like, someone me being like, you're so beautiful. You're so great. - Oh, you kept saying that. - That's like the way, like, I feel love. Like, someone like tells me, like, you're, I love you, I love you, I love you. I'm like, oh, okay, great. - Oh. - Yeah. - I don't know what's my love languages. I have to try to-- - Access to your best. - Oh. - Yeah, paying the bill, opening your water. - I was like, I don't need-- - I want you guys to pay every single bill, you know? I have money too, but it's just like, it's a little thing that it's just that nice. - It shows you love. - Yeah, I was with my mom, you know, if it's just, you know, it's just-- - Yeah. - Yeah. - Do you cook a lot? 'Cause you're stepped out as a cook, right? - Yeah, I don't cook. - Okay. - My mom doesn't cook. - He cooks. - He cooks. - And what's his favorite dish of his that he makes? - He do like a, what do you call, wait, I forgot a name. It's like a mashed potato pancake. - I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. - Am I selling it right? - Roasty. - Roasty? - Roasty. - Mmm. - Like a hash brown is like a pancake, like a more like a big hash brown. - Oh, that sounds so good. - So good. - So good. - I'm so excited to see your biggest residency. - I know. It's coming up. - And how many, you're doing two weeks or six shows? - Okay. - Your fan base and like, you're like, is very like, interested in your life. Obviously. How are you able to like keep things private into yourself? - I just don't talk. (laughing) I don't talk, I don't put anything, I don't, private. I feel like right now, my friend, no. Know how to like, deal with it. - Yeah. - If they don't understand, it's like. - If they don't understand you then. - Yeah, because we're human, you know? Like, we, we need all, all, all life too. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, Lisa. - Yeah. - What did we learn today? - But we learned so many red flag, green flag. - I learned that it's quite normal to change your name in Thailand. - Oh yes, normal. - Yeah, normal. - Change your name? No, you love your name. - I do love my name. - Yes. - I do love my name. - Yes. - We learned that your EP Press Play is out now. It is incredible. You can press play on it now. - Please, just press play, press play. - Press play. - Yeah. - We learned that you won your first non-K-pop award last night as a solo artist. - Yay! - And many more are to come. - Yay. - Thank you so much for coming on the show. - Thank you. Thank you for having me. - Of course. (upbeat music)