Session 143: Nicole Kidman & Sandra Bullock

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Nicole, Sandra obviously is like-- Well, your first car was named Sandra Bullock. My first car was called Sandra Bullock. What's your favorite Sandra Bullock? Shut up, Muffy. She helped me name my first car. What's your favorite Sandra Bullock movie? And what's your-- I don't care. Don't. Like, I said, shout out Muffy, you just. I care. I just-- You love Muffy. Mm-hmm. What are your favorite movies from both the actresses here today? My favorite Nicole used to be Eyes Wide Shut. And now I think I've reverted back to my Milo Rouge days. Okay. And Milo Rouge was like, sort of an awakening for me as a kid. Like, that movie is-- it's-- like, it's formative for a kid who wanted to do, like, theater or when he was younger and stuff. And yeah, I love you, and McGregor. I love Nicole. I think that movie's really major. And it's the reason it was like the birth of my baselarm in phase. Right. Right. And you love bas. I think he's a terrific director, yeah. My favorite Nicole Kidman movie is The Others. Wow. Oh. Yeah. And then my favorite Sandra Bullock movie-- When did you watch The Others? When I was like eight. Wow. My favorite-- and then my favorite Sandra Bullock-- Do you like practical magic one? Love. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Well, we do in that. I'm sure you do. My favorite Sandra Bullock movie is Premonition. Oh, wow. That's a crazy select. It's Premonition. I mean, she's terrific in that. Sandra Bullock is, like, really my girl. Yeah. Really my girl. Oh, honestly, I'm so sorry I take it back. My favorite Sandra Bullock movie is Bird Box. Really? My favorite of all time. Bird Box is one of my favorite movies of all time. What do you go on your letterbox for? It could. What would you say if you were going to ask for your letterbox for? OK, that's a good question. And I feel like nobody asked him that. My letterbox for would be Devil Wars Prada, Bridesmaids. Bird Box, apparently. Bird Box. I love that movie. I just think it's-- so I love apocalyptic stuff. Yeah. Oh my god. Love. But then I-- You know what? You said that the other day, and then I said again. I like a quiet place, and you said-- I don't like a quiet place. OK, well. I just don't love how they have to be quiet the whole time. Right, so it's more like you were imagining yourself in that scenario, and you know you'd be dead. Yes. Right. Maybe it would. Yeah, no, you'd be like one of those characters where it's like, wait, what's going on? And then I'd be like, no, no, you would make it into the local restaurant where everyone's hiding, and everyone's like, you would make it there. I'm not saying you'd be the one getting out of the car screaming. You genuinely be like, OK, we have to be quiet. Yeah. But then we would get to the restaurant. And we'd all be hiding, and we'd all be like, OK, this thing is going to kill us if we're not silent. It's crawling on the ceiling or whatever. Yeah. And then you'd sort of like something absurd would come out of your mouth. And you would make a noise. Yeah. But I don't know if it would be like a totally on purpose. I just think it's your nature to like speak. Get like at least half of the room's eyes on you, which is a talent. Thank you so much. Well, you just reframed my day. Your day? Yeah, I was having a horrible day. You want to know my favorite movie franchise of all time? Yeah. The purge. No, no. Yep. My dream is to start a purge movie. OK. Because I think the purge one or like the purge movie that we were also gagged by is terrific. They're all terrific. Everything one of them. Election year? I don't know what my favorite franchise is, but you didn't ask me my favorite Sandra Bullock movie. I did. I know I never got the chance to answer. So what was yours? OK, I think it is a tie between gravity. Yeah, because I know that rocked your shit. Gravity, I saw on theaters. I saw on theaters, too. Gravity falls under my favorite type of movie, which is what would you do? But in which apocalyptic slash space movie would you do anything? But I just like let's get real. I know I would probably fault her to conditions around me. But it's fun to think about like what would you do? Yeah, there's like a world in which I actually think that you would make it pretty far in something like the Hunger Games. Hunger Games, I can see my helmet. I don't think you'd be a diva. I think you would kind of just be like, well, here we go. I'm going to sharpen my teeth and bite these bitches. Yeah, yeah. In honor of practical magic, too, if you were able to have one magical power, what would it be? I like the idea of flying simply for the feeling. Not because I want to get somewhere quicker, which I would use it for, obviously. But it's not because of that. It's because I really want to feel like a bird. My ideal superpower, magic power, would be telekinesis. Telekinesis. Yeah. Anyway, I'm so honored to be the-- would you call this opening act? Yeah, I guess. We should call it opening act instead of intro. Oh, intro. There you go. I'm so honored to be the intro, an opening act for Nicole and Sandra. Yeah, they're so legendary. I think it's so unbelievably iconic that you're having them on. I feel like there's some of our last great movie stars. Movie stars don't really exist anymore. Well, I hate this movie stars don't exist anymore thing, because I think the world is just changing and the world around the concept of a movie star is changing. And so the idea of them is changing and how you get there is changing. OK, I do think that everyone's a multi-hyphen at these days. But like I said, there are pros and cons. Because then it brings into this-- then people are going to the movie to see a movie, obsession. Obsessed. You think you're obsessed with me, so ask a minute. And I said, me too. Obsessed with me, ee, ee, as much as you are. Yeah, actual bar. You know, it's interesting that we spoke about is how both of them never thought practical magic, too, would ever be a thing. And the reason it became a thing was because it had this cult following online. And that's why the studio was like, let's make a second one. I love that movie. Me too. I'm actually really excited for the second one. It's really amazing. When is it out? Yeah, no, it's out on September 11th. It's brilliant. It's magical. Practical magic, too, is brilliant. It's amazing. It's magical. And you loved it. I love the soundtracks, unbelievable. Well, Charlie, can you look up? Birdbox monologue to boy and girl. Listen to me. We're going on a trip now. It's going to be rough. OK, ready? Listen to me. If you hear something in the woods, you tell me. If you hear something in the water, you tell me. Under no circumstances, are you allowed to take off your blindfold? But under no circumstances, are you allowed to take off your blindfold? Take the blindfold off. Charlie, yeah, I love you. I love you, too. Thank you for doing this with me. Thank you for having me. And as I said, this is a massive honor for me. Massive. I mean it. It's always an honor to be here. Remember, the first time I did this, I said, I feel like I'm in a valuable seat. I know. And I was very kind. And I meant it. And I really appreciated that. Yeah. Do you have any words for Sandra and Nicole before we part? I'm very inspired by both of you. And I really hope I get the opportunity to meet you, Sandra, and meet you again, Nicole. Charlie, I love you. But for real, I just would like to say that I am so beyond grateful that I was able to talk to Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock about practical magic, too. They both mean and have meant so much to me. And I know that, like, I don't take this base and what I do for granted. And I am so beyond grateful. They were so lovely, so kind. It was a real, like, meet your heroes moment. And I. Really hope that you guys love it as much as I did practical magic to is out in theater September 11th It is fucking fantastic Joey King and Misee Williams starring it as their daughters I really do feel like people are going back to the movie theaters And this is such a movie that you have to see in a movie theater. It is so fun and I am so honored I got to speak to the two stars about it. So Nicole and Sandra. Thank you Pussies I would not be here without you enjoy the episode. I love you Thank you both look into cold kin men. Welcome to therapist. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Thanks for being here I am so honored that you guys have chosen to come here on this wonderful press We're going back to the air conditioning right now. I know it's very hot out. Yeah, it's very hot. That was our deciding factor It was gorgeous air conditioning. Yes. How was so mean practical magic to it was really fun We went to the UK in the summer and we shot it was magical It really was it was written in in Alice's book It was it takes place. We leave our house and we have to go to to London and it was it was beautiful Like we had the best weather. Mm-hmm. Some reason was freakishly stunning that summer last summer Just the people were just kind yeah people there was really kind crew was amazing Yeah, just kind optimistic can do it's like even if you can't they're like all right We'll try and I'm psyched just it was it was sort of you let your guard down there a little bit. Yeah Yeah, how come you've got this stuff? Why are you always taking my stuff here here? This is Pussandra Cassandra that's Pussandra, and that's oh, I forget their name Joe. What's that one Patrick? I'm never letting you get a post terrible. No, because I don't know because Joe Jonas named him and I say he wouldn't let go of Patrick Well from SpongeBob. Yeah, I think that's I think that's what it was Yeah, but was Patrick Peepee. Yeah Did you guys have a resident witch onset again or we was us? Yeah? Oh, yeah It was you guys yeah, hello. I mean it was like like six of us that were you had three generations of but we had no Resident witch that could curse us in any way. We were only surrounded by witches that would We're good witches right because last time you guys had one and she was she was brought on is sort of a a a noir of things in turns out I mean you more she might know What did you guys what if you guys like learned about witches from both the first film and the second film? Because I find myself like fascinated with them now. I have a whole theory on the witch Come on season of the witch give it to us. No, you go you had the microphone up to my face Just really like the microphone I was about to sing a song you can sing no This is what it was like working on like yeah sometimes we're here and then Nicole will drift Uh-huh, and I just sort of looks like a balloon. She's so free and they just hold on to tell them you just If you do you want to talk about it? I don't know. Yeah. What what do you guys thoughts on witches? Um, I mean my mother always she was born on Friday Friday the 13th So that somehow gave her I think magical powers. So I would say I come from a long line of witches Yeah, I don't I have a I have a problem with the word which only because I believe it was born out of a negative Connotation it didn't feel like it was given with sweetness and kindness It was it was always my daughter and I brought some earlier my daughter asked me. She goes why is it that they call women witches? Men are warlocks. Mm-hmm. That's a really great question and You know, which is were women who helped each other because they weren't given the same medical, you know I think that men got they had to come up with their own potion from the earth Everything was was natural. They had to help each other. They taught each other to read You know, they so if you look at it that way and you go back to Salem and all those times you go Oh, you look at it with different eyes and It made me really sad because it was used to to harm someone or to kill them in society They oh, I'm mad at my aunt right now. She's a witch and then she's burned at the stake Right. I think about that because the the Latin Sinistra, right? So they had it's get fairly deep here And it's left handed birthmarks red hair all the things that people were kind of weirded out by and suddenly you're a witch Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow did you guys like you would be burned at the stake usually for a birthmark or red hair and life-tanded Yeah, it was Sinist. Oh wow. I knew this was only women. I mean warlocks were burned as well But like women were you know, it was they were the target And it's you know when we were doing research for this and all you'd not that you need to do research on Alice's book But I just randomly had a thought and I go I bet everything has a reason like Women are made fun of for going to bathroom impacts. They go. Why do women need to go to the bathroom impact? I said I bet there is a reason and there was they were not bathrooms for women a couple hundred years ago So they had to go in the fields and when they went in the fields they became vulnerable and were attacked And so the women would all go together so that the women would be safe Wow, that's why we go to the bathroom packs That's what people also say about People also say that about gossip gossip was a way for women to share and for important information Like under the guys of like something secretive that they needed to get it to each other Did anything spiritual happen to you guys on set in the first or the second like to do guys notice any signs or yeah? We I mean, I just feel like this whole To be going back to this so many years later. That's magical and it's in its own way like kind of extraordinary That this film even found its own it's own following and that people championed it and before you know it There was a reason to make a second one All this time decades and decades later that really happened that when it came out We we were not reviewed well. We people came after us. Yeah, they were like how many women do you need in film? How many how many emotions like how many tones do you need you know comedy and Magic and love and drama and you know, and I was like have you lived life at all? But back then we were chastised for it It was it was there was a lot of shame attached to it and we sort of went Oh, we thought we were making something that really was Not just educational, but not mean spirited at all It was about doing the right thing and helping others no matter what and so there was I was really surprised when it Turned out that because of social we there was a whole world that went no you did make it for a group of people Here we are and if it wasn't for social we would not have been able to make a second one Everyone came out loud and proud and said This is us these are our people. It's not you don't have to be a people Because there's so many themes and thematics in this Story that relate to everybody every single human being on the planet. So We get to make this with a different feeling like we came out of going. Oh God. We were no one wanted It was it was it was not a good press tour But we have fun. Yeah, you weren't there. You weren't at the premiere. No, you have them But it was it was like you were like this you were you could tell by the questions That You know when people walk into the room every five minutes with their questions And they ask the same question they sort of give you that look of like Yeah, the stink they have the stink. Yeah, yeah, and it was it was not pretty but so this feels really really really nice. Oh wow Congratulations. I'm so happy that this time around your experience is so much better. Yeah, it's very different So you noted what happened though over the course of the last couple of decades is people just latched onto it loved it I think the sisterhood part of it is incredibly compelling the family And it's just yummy. Yeah, it's fun and it's yummy and hopefully that's what we're bringing this time around And and it's fun. Yeah, it's real. Yeah, it is really fun. It's really really fun. Did you go so you guys to be fun? You guys noticed it It's resurgence on socials. That's how you picked up on like the kind of cult classiness of it Yeah, and also Warner Brothers was like you do know what's happening I wasn't on socials. I was like I have no idea and because I couldn't understand why they kept saying Will you please come back and make this? I'm like, why? Were you not there when you first Shed at the fan because I was there and I did feel great and then I started looking at it And if you're not on social you you wouldn't have felt the way but the second you told it it is profound in How people connect to each other. It's like a community and you realize it's not a tiny community. It's Pretty big. Yeah, and it's all about joy and it's all about Things that everyone wants for themselves or for their family or for their ancestors or for you know for yourselves and it just happens to have that magical little spin on top of it that has a little pointy hat or whatever you however you want to fly the flag Right, you can fly it however you want, but the core of it all is just Accepting everybody. Yeah, no matter who they are You are always welcome in the Owens house the ants always had their door open the light was always on Didn't judge if this is what you want it and it's that mentality I think is needed more now than ever. It's like if you come with love we'll be there for you That's how that's how it felt watching the second one and also I thought the music was so excellent. Did you guys have anything to do with the music choices? I did yeah, oh my god the when when land side played and then the cure played I thought it just thought it was so fantastic. It's so well-timed. It was it was interesting because there was so much because the first one That we I worked on the the soundtrack the first one It no one expected it it went like double gold or double platinum there's two records I have hanging in the house and it's really cool. But with this one, it was like the pressure, we had to completely wash the brain ago. This is a new story, same people, so you need the tent pole moments, the nostalgia, like the Stevie Nicks, who allowed us to orchestrate. We said, can we put some strings on it and have our composer put strings? She's like, nah. So that was amazing. Thank you, Steve. Yeah. And then Olivia was like, she doesn't license to anyone. Yeah. And licensed us. Um, thank you. I live thing, I live. Brandy Carlyle came in saying. Thank you, Brandy. Her song by Billy Joel, which is one of my favorite songs. Who Billy licensed it to us. And Brandy's was like, I would love, I would love to sing this. So it's like, everything just naturally came, you know, and that, that is rare. And it just sort of what didn't work, did not work. We tried to force some things. Well, this would be really cool to have. And you go, doesn't belong here. Right. And so what belonged stuck the minute you put it to cut it to picture, it was, you could, you could just feel it. Have you always been involved in the soundtrack of the movies you're in? As much as you will not every movie does a soundtrack. Right. Yeah. Okay. And, and the first film, our soundtrack inadvertently became another narrator of the film, like our first 20 minutes of the film didn't work. And that's why we have like four or five needle drops at the beginning of Faith Hill. And this was before NATO drops had really. Yeah. Well, they were doing, they had like a big song. They have like a big song like the thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then Faith Hill, when you remember when we got the song, we went, oh, this is nice. And we're like, put it here. And it just it made the movie. Faith Hill made the movie. Thank you, thank you. I saw the coolest video the other day was of you. And I did not know that you were the first person in the world to buy digital movie ticket. I was from the net. Yeah. I was the first, because the net was all about hacking and computers. And people were like, what is, what is a hacker? Would this really happen? I'm like, yeah, like I was sort of like a mini techie at that time. So I'm not now comparatively. But yeah, it was, it was the first time that I ordered a ticket online. Yeah. Irwinston, yeah, Irwin, Irwin Winkler did it. He sort of set it all up. And it was crazy. It is crazy to think how much the business is how old we are. No, no, no, no, no. It's crazy to think how much the business has changed. And you guys have been a part of the business since presocial watch it. Pre pre pre pre war pre electricity, pre social and post social, you just recently joined socials. I did, I did. What feels the most different about the business for better or for worse post the digital age? I think the direct contact. You suddenly have a direct access to people, you're a fan, you have, you, you can control your own narrative and voice, which I love. I mean, that is direct. And so you don't have that kind of wall between you. If you don't want it, if you do, you can, you can put it up or you can go back and forth, different times. You know, you can go, I don't know if anything to say or do right now. So I'm just going quiet. It's, it's up to you. Right. I like that. And how have you felt since joining Instagram? Well, initially it was really daunting. I wouldn't have joined. One of my brothers not said, could you please? And I said, if I could be me, and if I can have my voice, and I like, you know, I like things to be playful and, and in service of someone else, and how can I shine a light on people and how can I have fun doing it? And I, if I can remain doing it this way in honor and in service of something else outside of me, great. You were saying how you have now have direct contact with your audience. Was it a really frustrating feeling to not have that, like 20 some years ago? I think you're being interpreted a lot of times through somebody else's voice or their perception of you. So, and that's fine. That's going to happen, but at the same time, yeah, is it nice to be able to say, um, I, this is what I'm choosing to speak out on. This is what I want to say. This is what I want to show. This is, this is who I am. Yeah, it's always nice to have, have your own, your control over who you are because you can authentically say who you are. That's great. Yeah. And you also choose when you want to not say anything. It's your choice. Yeah. I love choice. Summer is coming to a close, but just because summer is coming to a close does not mean live performance is as well. 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And the only way I will be doing that is on booking.com. Because all my friends are incredibly picky. Love to all. But we are all incredibly picky. Booking.com helps us put all those preferences in one place and helps us find a house or a hotel that has everybody's needs met. And that way we have a roof over our head and we can enjoy the rest of the trip. Because as I've said, once you have a place to sleep, the rest of the trip kind of plans itself. Going on trips with your friends. Like, it's one of the best exercises that free will you can do. It's like, that is like the time when I most feel like an adult. I'm like, oh, I can literally just get up and leave. And booking.com helps you get up and leave. Go on. Book that trip. It's easy. Booking.com. Booking.com. Yeah. Well, what are you guys? They're a pissed about today. The inability to influence those who are making changes that I don't approve of. In the world that just it's just a blanket. And I'm trying not to always live in that downer. But it's just you're not a downer. I know. But it's like, I live in a constant disguise falling. I'm she does. I do. I'm preparing for the world. I have more prepared bags. Trunks things, you know, really? Oh, big time. Yeah. Yeah. You can really trigger her. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. That just reminded me you're in bird box where the world does end. It does. Yes. And you want to be in my house if shit goes down. Wait, that's one of my favorite movies of all time. I've got stuff there. That is one of my favorite apocalypse movies of all time, which is, by the way, my favorite genre. I've seen every apocalypse movie under the sun. I'm fascinated by. Same director as this film. Really? Oh my god. She's fantastic. But I thought bird box was such a fascinating concept. The fact that we have a film out of it is a miracle because I'm literally running. We're in a jungle running around with the blind. But I'm like, I'm going to be method. And I'm going to do this without. I ran into cameras. I ran into it. You know, it was, it was, it was insanity. And as long as the heart of it was, taking care of your kids, and what would you do? It was like the Sophie's choice moment. I think I said, as long as we have that as the grounder of like, what would a mama do in this situation? And how does she do it? And how does she get them out of it? I think you can do anything as insane as it was. We're like, as long as it feels real to those people who are in it. Right. You know. And I said, if we got that, we'll be fine. And that was one of the first streamer Netflix movies at the time, if I remember, right? One. Yeah. I think we'll Smith had one. Like he had the, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would there, would there ever be a second in the works? They talked about it. But I was like, do I really want to? I mean, we made bird box during a time when things were really bucolic and peaceful in the world. And everything seemed very calm. Do I want to make something that really depicts where my mind's already at right now with all my little panic boxes for me and the kids? Should anything happen? My son's like, oh, come on. Mom, really? I'm like, we need to have your HEPA filter. You have asthma. Like I load up the car faster than anyone. Yeah. So with that kind of mentality, do I want to be making a film? Which, you know, when I film, I'm from beginning, middle and end, when that same headspace, I don't want to do that right now. You know, I don't want to sit in that world when it kind of feels like it could happen. Yeah. Yeah. But I will be prepared for it. I mean, I was watching this closure day the other day and I was like, oh my god, like this could really just happen. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. So it's about aliens. I feel they're going to be really nice when they get here. I also think so. I think they're here. We don't see them. They're watching us laughing. Maybe he'll not at you, but a lot of me. They're like, "Go on, go on, good girl. Sandy, not too much. Yeah, bad girl. Too many here. Why would they not be here?" I was turned into a believer from that movie, and I was like, "I used to not believe in that. I used to really just be very matter of fact, and like what I could see is what was there." But I don't know. Lately, I've been after rewatching the first practical magic, and watching the second the other day, and then watching Disclosure Day. I'm like, "God, maybe there is more than meets the eye here." I think they're, I think they're for sure is. Yeah. I just love being here now. I mean, we can all get caught up in, "Oh my gosh, there's this, and then that, and everything." But then it's like, "Well, we're here now. Stay right here, right now, and enjoy the moment." How do you guys stay present in like such incredible moments that feel so out of body? Like you've both won Oscars. Like how do you stay present in those moments? Boy, the left out body is when we won. I had two hours of sleep that night. I was hiding a newborn. I had no sleep that night. I had nothing. I messed up someone, I presented for someone. Don't remember. I couldn't read the teleprompter. The poor gentleman didn't have a very good. I was a mess. I don't remember what I said. I just wanted to get home for a feeding. Which is actually a nice balance. Like, I had this incredible moment that I can't remember, but I was yearning to be back home for the moment that I was hiding. So, you know, and I was beyond lonely. I had the pinnacle of my success, and I went home and was so lonely. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, crazy though, that sort of the confluence of events, where you go, "I wish I had, like I had my mom with me and my dad." But I was like, "Where's my partner? Where's someone that I can share this with?" "Where's jump on the bed? I've got my daughter here right now. She's watching it." I'm going to point her. She's got a bunch of babies in the corner. She brings like these events and has them in the corner. But I was so, yeah, it was like one of the most profound moments where I went, "I've got to get a life." Yeah, yeah, and at the same time, I'm holding this gold statue where you go, "This is it. This is the highest sort of prize you can get in our industry." And so grateful, and yet so lonely. Did it feel almost like, "Okay, now I can. Oh, weird. It actually felt like I'd love to be able to just, you know, be wrapped in somebody's arms right now, and then, and the actual. What? But you know that feeling? Where you go, I'd love to be earthed now. Yeah. Something that feels really, "Okay, this is my real life." But was that, like, something you were reaching for? It then became, "Quest." Yeah. Well, it was just like, "Oh, I realize what? I'm the chasm." Yeah. Yeah. Wow. You realize what works. That's interesting, what those things do. You think work fills up the cup, and it does in the moment because there's a lot to think about it, but when you go home. It's an empty cup. I think that's probably why a lot of people take it home because that's their sustenance. And if that's not, you know, it fills your cup, you go home, you know, like, it's still empty. Right. How are you guys able to separate work and life? Like, when do you feel like you both discover how to do that and find that proper balance? I think once you have kids, in terms of just going, "Okay, I've really got to learn how to compartmentalize." At the same time, I've still got to be able to do my, have my artistic creative expression. So a lot of it is sharing it, like my daughter's sitting over there will go, "She's very aware of all the things that I go through, both of them are, and it's a very shared experience." And that kind of becomes beautiful then. Yeah. So then, so if it blurs, you're able to then talk about it, and with your family, you jump in now. I'm just like, "I'm a person, and I can't to know." I mean, I think everyone's got, it's different on every day, you know. I'm a mom first. Like, I am no good to any film production if I'm not great there, and they're not great. You know, I didn't work for four years. I mean, I didn't work in front of the camera, my other creative things, but I chose not to be, you know, I can't. Like, if something is not right, I can't show up. I don't know how to flip that switch. So, if there's the opportunity to be there, they're good, and they're really good, and they can be right by my side, I can be there. And that's, that's few and far between. Yeah. I mean, they're 16 and 13, both in the haves, but now they want nothing to do with me, but I still need everything to do because they're going to be raised him to leave you. You know, you raise the things you love the most to leave you, and I'm like, no, no, no, you want them to know I'm ready to go out and she's independent. They're bogged independent. I see the looks in her eyes. So out of here, I'm going to let mom think I'm here, but I'm out. But that's what you want, and that's the most painful thing ever. So I'd rather spend all my time with them. And then they're up the door. I'm going to be, I'm going to have an empty cup. Have you guys ever seen me? You'll have me. No, because you'll be trucking her everywhere. I know I'll be following my kids like a hoodie, like a ball of clavin. Yeah, that's like my dad. Yeah, I get your dad. Yeah, my dad will not let go. I will, why? Why should we? Yeah, he won't. There's like certain things he has that he, I let him still feel like he has, like he won't let me drive. Does he live here? Yeah, we all live here, and I do not drive. So he comes and drives you everywhere? We'll know, but he likes to sometimes. How sweet is that? I told my son, I was like, if you go to college, if you go to that college there, you could live here, I'll do the laundry. I'm not making right wise choices right now. You're dead, I get that. Yeah, I don't know. It's like his one thing, I'm like, okay, I won't drive, I don't want to drive. Does he, does he afraid that something might happen to you? He's like, you'll crash. Are you not a good driver? I don't think I am, I've never tried. Women, you don't have a license? You don't have your license. No, I grew up in New York. Okay, can we please do something where we just take you on the road and teach you how to drive? Yes. By the way, excellent. I won't be in the car. Wait. Yes, you will, yes you will. You will take care of all of the cars. Watch out! Speed for easy. That would be a very slow speed right here. It'll be the slowest of all the speeds. Let's teach you how to drive. Yeah, you and my son, because he's getting ready to take the little driver's license test. So like the whatever the, what is it called? The, yeah, that one. I think I can drive. It's like, do not talk to me, I'm not here. Well, if you didn't want us to focus on you, you shouldn't have come in the room. She's okay. I see you in her eyes. You've got no interest in us. Do you like the show? Love it. Oh. Oh, my God, thank you. Thank you, Amazon Prime for sponsoring today's episode. If you are 18 to 24 years old, I am insanely jealous of you, not because of your youth, but because you are eligible for prime for young adults. I've never been so sad to be 26. Not just because I'm closer to 30, but because prime for young adults is basically your own prime membership, not your parents, yours. And prime for young adults is half the price of regular prime, which is $7.49 a month. And you also get 5% cash back on eligible purchases. 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I was so curious as you, what are you watching on television or movies right now, or what are you listening to? An adult documentary? Oh, of course. I love tennis. Who is that? It's going to be something really intelligent, advanced-y. Go ahead, Nicole. And what am I listening to right now? Tell us what the documentary is about. The adult, the tennis player. Rafa, yeah. What do you think I saw? That's why I thought you looked blank both of you. You want to say that? Because we felt really stupid just then. Oh, she's watching. Oh, you got to watch it. It plays, it's extraordinary. Because he plays through so much pain. Fascinating. Yeah. I feel better. Don't you feel better now? Yes, I feel much better. You didn't know as well. I do feel better. I do feel better. It's the Aussie accent. Sometimes it just switches things sounds up. I can do British then or American. What do you want? Irish? No, the Aussie is nice, it's nice. I love the Aussie. You don't want British? No, no. I like that. I don't want British. You don't want that? A little bit. I can go like South London. Wow. That wasn't very good. It was superb. What are you watching? When I'm working on a film, until it's locked, I don't allow myself to watch anything that is, that will make me wish I was doing what they were doing. Do you know what I mean? It's something that will inspire me. So I watched things that are sort of really fun. I just went like, I think I'm on the. - I'm in the reality wrap. - Yeah, I was not saying, "Are you exactly the reality?" - I'm like, "Which one?" - Is it Vander Palm? - No, Ultimatum, and I married it for a site, love is blind, I love love is, I watch love is blind with love on the spectrum to sort of balance things out, you know. I love married it for a site, it's so good. - What is the premise you see, and you marry? - Yes, you have a bunch of therapists. Okay, this is gonna be a problem. - Call that, who vet all the people? They've had people sign up, you know, a lot of people from social, people who really want to find love, a lot of people who are also just on it for the, you know, free time. But they're vetted by these wonderful, wonderful therapists who find, you say, "What is it that you want?" And you're supposed to be sincere and be really vulnerable 'cause they're doing the search, it's a range marriage. So they find you a partner, you gear up, they come to your house two weeks from now, you're getting married, oh my God, the family had to, my dad, he hates bees, disowning me in Batman, do it anyway 'cause I want love. And so it's that whole process and then they meet at the altar, and nine times out of, what eight times out of 10, it's a wicked good wedding 'cause they have a wedding, they walk down the aisle, they have a party, inevitably they're wasted, they have a really good time. It's, it's strangers, so you're like, "Oh, this person's fantastic." (laughing) You know, you wanna consummate it on like, they're literally meeting and they're talking about, will you consummate your marriage? I'm like, you just met five minutes ago. It's fabulous and then they have to go live together, they get to go to a vacation together. They literally get married though. They get married there, yes. But no one talks about, if this is a legally binding marriage, and you wanna get divorced, does the show saddle you with the divorce process? Do they? I don't know. But if someone's genuinely going on, they're going, I'm doing a bad job in my life, finding a partner, can you find them for me? I think it's a great concept. Go on a date. - Yeah, I have to. - Well, they have a date, it's called a wedding date. - What have you guys noticed to be the most different about like this idea of fame and celebrity over the past 20, 30 years? Like what has changed the most in your eyes? - What's considered fame? And I think it goes back to what you were saying, so beautifully about social media gives you control and access to your own narrative. You get to say, this is who I am, this is how I wanna present versus the old studio system which you were curated, controlled, and you didn't have access to your voice to sort of dispel a rumor or doing that. It's just magnified now. You can be, there's different levels of how to express yourself, you know? But I realize how many creatives there are because content is hard. And you watch these people who create many stories and they get their families involved. And I love storytelling that way. I go, it's, I'm trying to find the beauty in it and not the things that are so harmful to kids. 'Cause I have a daughter who doesn't have an iPhone and she's at camp and she's like, next day, if you want me to go next year, you know I'm gonna need a phone. I'm like, no, you're not. - That's the point of care. - Yeah, exactly, no phones. - So I think it's, I love watching people create. Like with what you have in your house and your imagination and writing and so I think there's a different way to be creative and known for it rather than this higherarchy of this is a movie star and this is who you are and you're very important, you know. There's different ways to make stories come alive, you know. So that's my feeling. - Right, and you see that now with like creator-led projects like back rooms or obsessions. Yeah, have you seen back rooms? It's cool. It's cool. - What is it? So Osga Perkins I think was one of the producers or mentor for him. It started off on actually. - Reddit. - Yeah. - It was a Reddit thread about, it was this thing. If I, you will know if I'm explaining this wrong. It's like there was a photo on Reddit of like this creepy room and it just became this, it all started from this one photo and it became the back rooms of like this, like really like unidentified spaces. And this YouTuber, I'm blanking on his name, made it a movie about it and he's like one years old. - Do you know? - Kane Parsons. - Kane Parsons. - And the premise of it is what? Just like what happened in these rooms? - It's like the premise of, they work at this furniture store and this guy knocks down a wall by accident if I remember correctly. - That's the best thing. - I have recurring dreams of finding hidden rooms in houses that I live in that are outfitted in stuck in time and oh my god, there's more stuff here. There's more to let, I'm sure there's a deep rabbit hole you can go in for that, but that's a great concept. - Yeah, it's cool. What I liked about it is that it like opens up a whole world of movies, like it's like you could go on the back rooms forever and ever and ever and ever. - And then obsession. - Oh, I loved obsession. I thought-- - I'm sorry, I'm still stuck in-- - Yeah. - I'm an ultimatum in season three, so I'm gonna stay there until I'm finished. - But you said something really cool, what I thought, you said, yeah, I don't wanna watch something that I wish I was a part of. What is a movie that each of you did that you thought to each other? Like, oh, I wish I did that movie. I think my head would say, I wish I could do that. - Yeah. - I don't think I could do what Nick does. And I can't do what's said. I mean, Sandy is one of the greatest, if not the greatest physical, comedian, female working today. - You are so incredible at that. - She'll tell you why. She was, 'cause you studied films. - Oh, I will. - Oh, babe. - I love how you found physical comedy. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's literally wired in her since she was tiny. - Yeah. - You used through your mind, right? - Yeah, well, I was raised between Germany and United States. My mother was an opera singer, and we'd go for the opera seasons, and I was raised by my grandmother and my cousins. But in Germany at that time, and you had a TV with a show from Italy and black and white or a show from France, and it was anyone who could physically translate a story to you, and usually through humor, I was riveted by. And then when we were in the States, I would watch Carol Burnett, Jerry Lewis. We'll see about anyone with physical comedy abilities that could make you feel something without saying a lot, and make you laugh. And my mother is German, had no sense of humor unless I fell, or I'd like a-aid it on the floor, and I was like, okay, I had nothing to do with her being German. Maybe it did. And I realized that that sort of accidental happening in making it truthful within that moment was gold for me. I loved how to physically figure out how to make a moment real physically with comedy, within a scene, pull that chair up, pull this and make this difficult. Don't tell me you did this. It's thrilling to me. My body wants to do it. - Is there a scene in one of your movies that you're most proud of where you feel like your physical comedy really shines? - Yeah, it's small, no one else would care. But it was a scene that I had to do where I walked into a kitchen and had to shove, tried to just bake something in the microwave, and then walk back. And I said, what I would like for you to do is pull the sheets out of the bed, 'cause she was having a hard day. I said, how do we show that other than, I'm having a hard day. I said, I'm gonna be making my frozen dinner. Pull the sheet out here. I'm gonna wear a shoe that grips and has a rubber sole. So I catch it. Don't let the door work in the microwave. Put some utensils there, and I'll grab one and see if it works. And then do the same thing. Don't tell me where it is, but pull it out before I return into that shot. And it was a shot where it just, it was like the first or second take, everything works. It was one of my favorites from Miss Congeniality. It was like one scene where I'm just trying to make a frozen dinner. - Every one's that last night. - So good. - It's so good. - It was just like, you just show your anger. - Yeah. - That way, that's what happens in life. You're pissed, and then you're trying to get your car keys. You can't find your car keys, but then your jacket sleeve is turned inside out. And it's like, I'm best when I'm between a rock and a hard place. - Right, I didn't know you produced Miss Congeniality. Was that one of the first films you produced? - Yeah, I produced some smaller ones in New Maryland. But they were learning ground. Yeah, yeah. So that was my first one that sort of hit. - Yeah. - You are Melissa McCarthy. - Oh, the heat. - Oh, so good. - So good. - We are the rock in the heart, I guess. - You know what I've rewatched of yours the other day was the others. - Oh, it's so good. - It is so good. - It's so good. - It's so good. - It is split. - One of the best twists. - Not physical comedy. - Of all time. - It's internal, like flipping, like you're like what you have to sell through your eyes and through what she has to do in silence. It's incredible. - But it was really interesting making the others because originally, it was written where she's meant to have this wild red hair and look completely haggard and destroyed. And I was like, no, she needs to be so together and everything because she's so meticulous about protecting her children. So that all comes from a place of perfect care and protection and wanting to have everything in order and that's where, that's how that character started. - Right, out of all the films you both have ever done has been the most fun to make for both of you. - Practical matching. It was a hard shoot though. We had a hard shoot. - That was a hard shoot, I'm like, oh, Rose, call it glasses. - I loved making volumbruge, yeah, because I got to fly on a trapeze and, yeah, I mean, when do you get to do that, right? - Yeah. It's like, what is on who everybody is like, and the sparkling diamond. - Yeah. - He did. He would always be like, this. Barkeling Diamond in the sky. So yeah, so that was fun singing, dancing, and acting. - Yeah, what about for you? - I mean, I have great times on set with the people, like you have hilarious memories. I think the most thankful I've ever been on a project where I go, wow, who I was when I started versus who I was when I came out was probably gravity because I got to push my body in a way. - And I don't think, I don't think the film does justice to how hard it was for those people to make that film. You know, the behind the scenes, you look at, you go, this technology didn't, it was brutal, but we went into it going, I hope it works. We didn't know if it would work up until the very last minute, but who I was when I started versus who I was when I was done, it was really, I always look back on that and really grateful. I go, you spat me out a person that I'm really proud of. - Yeah, I love that. - How long did it take to shoot? - It wasn't that long, it was just isolating. Because I was in a box by myself with an earwig and no one to talk to for nine hours a day, you know, doing more because I had to do all the, I was going slow motion with my body, zero G, while I spoke in real time. So by the end, I had someone would hand me a water and joy was just like, you know what you just did. And I was like, no idea, he was like, they said, do you want a water and you went? (laughing) I was, I was method acting. It was just really profound how they believed in technology that had just been invented weeks before to tell this story that Alfonso had. And that, that to me, I'm really thankful for that because you see people's belief in their story and you sign on, you go, okay, I, you know, you're incredible filmmakers, let's do it. I will be my best, as best as I can be my best. Yeah, well, you were fantastic. Gravity is, I loved being full of stories. And I was, I was, you were diamond in the sky. I was an astronaut in the sky. You were, you were, you were both in the sky. You both, you always do sync up. You guys are like, do you feel like real life sisters sometimes? Yeah, yeah. We're so, I mean, I feel like I could say anything to Sandy and she'll listen, process it, and then give it, give me some sort of profound advice. Or I just, I'll take it to the grave. Yeah. Anything she tells me, yeah, yeah, yeah, both hold that. We don't really, yeah. What was that call like when you both decided to hop on for a practical magic, too? Like, it was a bunch of calls, we were. But we was, there was no like, what should we do it? We're like, we're going to do it. Which, what do we extract from the book? Because the book is done. Beautiful stuff. There's three movies in that book. How do we make this relationship, which soars from the first one? Like, we didn't know it would do what that did. But there's something there. We have chemistry. It just happens. We do, you know, and we fight well, and we love well. And it's, and we're different enough to make it interesting every time there's either love or an argument. Yeah, you know, so it wasn't a should we. We're like, okay, let's do it. How do we do it and honor the fans, the first film, but evolve it and bring in the new generation? I mean, excellent job at it though. Yeah, they're how sweet or amazing Joey. Unbelievable. Is it true you brought your own tequila to that? It was, you, the first one. The first one. Yeah. Take them on, we were so cold. Yeah. We were so tired and cold. There was no drunkiness. But did you guys get like tipsy for that first one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where we were really hammered was when we were sitting at the table and shouting each other. All that sweat was real. Oh, and it never, what do you guys, what music are you listening to? I'm always so fascinated to know. Oh, I've gone down to an old school hip hop road trip. I've just like, it's turned up the old like, it's good, like old two-pack, but all the stuff has the same sort of downbeat that you just, you can do no wrong. You can run on the treadmill, you got, you can do it. It's, that's where I am right now, hip hop road trip. I did a little, um, hip hop road trip with little Kim earlier this year. She's popping up every now. Yeah. Where is little Kim these days? Is what I want to know? Do we know where she is? Maybe it's I, God knows, like actually God knows. But the jump off is one of the greatest rap songs of all time. She, she, no one gives her the credit she deserves. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. Same like Missy Elliott. I'm sorry, Missy Elliott needs to go back on tour. She needs to bring it back. There's just some people that need to, yeah. We'll show up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. If I saw the jump off live, I would be so in it. Put that out there. Please, little Kim. Have little Kim on your show. Yeah. Please. Would you? Yeah. Well done. Say it. Okay. Little Kim. If you want to come on the show, send her a book approved. Yeah. We need you. We need you. We need you. Yeah. Yeah. Where you listening to? I jump around all the time. Um, you know, my, my standard go to is Fred again. Just guess why not? Really? Yeah. That's her favorite artist of all time. Really? Yeah. Have you seen him live? No. Oh, you have to. Yeah. Apparently his live shows are like, poor. You are so good at going concerts. Going to concerts. Oh, yeah. So you guys are cold play. Oh, that was great night. Yes. How was that? We so needed that, didn't we? That was out. Yeah. I mean, if, I'd be lying if I'd say we didn't do crying, we, I mean, it was so, for some reason, so emotional and so vast, but so small. Like you look around you go, how does one band make everyone love each other for two hours for just a moment? Yeah. There was, there was no animosity, like I just been to the, the Kendrick and Sizzle concert with my son and I was like, this is the greatest thing we've ever seen. And I'm trying not to embarrass him in the background. Yeah. Chill. I'm going to hang back. But he, if my kids weren't there at this one and there was no hanging back, it was unbelievable. Yeah. I'm so jealous. I've never got to see them live. You know, they're touring in, I think 2027, go see it, it is like nothing to go together. The best part was you're going to teach me to drive. Yeah. We're taking it to cold. I'm also seeing Harry Styles on Halloween. Oh, I've seen him. He's spectacular. Excited. Yeah. He's spectacular. What's the best? You're invited to Madison Square Garden, right? Yeah. I invited you. Halloween. You thought you would be them maybe. I said, be there maybe, but I don't know. Kids. That means I won't be there. Not true. Not true. It's the do me. It's a whole new me. I'm coming out. I'm coming out. Do you use the cancel plans? I'm coming out. That's such a good song. Diana Ross. That's another one. It's on my hip-hop version. Do you guys, what's the best concert you've ever been to? Oh, come on. You can't ask that, Prince. Prince. Oh, yeah. I saw Prince. He was singing, right to me. Yeah. He was on that speaker. He was push-ups. Right at me. Looking right at me. I don't know if you knew it, but I felt it. Yeah. A man in heels and earrings can steal any man's woman. Oh, great. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He could walk in. I'd be like, yes. Yeah. I go to concerts. So I've seen everything. I've seen everything. I saw a bowie. Really? Yeah. I loved bowie. I've done, you name it. I've seen it. Yeah. So, yeah. AC/DC. Yeah. I would want to. Yeah. I would be great. Yeah. I mean, Charlie XCX was, yeah, I mean, always. She was-- Oh, I forgot. She was awesome. Yeah. So that's just so many different. We're not going to look at you anymore. We love you. Yes. Sorry. You name it. Yeah. I just love hearing live music. Have you seen the strokes? No. I just saw them for the first time, and I love the strokes, and it was one of the best shows of my entire life. Really? Yeah. Wow. I don't know why. I think it's just because I've been waiting so long to see them. Yeah. So many festivals where they were playing, and I never got to see them, and then I finally was like, they were before Justin Bieber. So everyone was like, OK, we'll stay on here and watch them. And it was just-- That's amazing. They sound good, right? So cool. Amazing. OK, so these are the "Tell Me What's Wrong." I have a very stubborn family, and we can't say anything to each other without someone getting mad. I'm on the receiving end of all of the blame usually. I always say that people only act like others around them, and my friends and I definitely don't have issues. What should I do? I don't understand. OK, so just to clarify, so complicating, or family blame, the family blame, the family blames them for everything. Yeah. Let's not pass that. Let's get it standalone. Let's get something to go without understanding it. That's like that. That third sentence. Yeah. So with that third sentence, it's very revealing. As you see, I'm like, you only act like those around you, so I must not be the problem if my friends and I don't have issues, but I have issues within my family. I see what you're saying. OK, got it. All right. Thanks for that. Yeah. I can't help, because I don't have enough information, but I would suggest if it's something that's debilitating, when you come home, you can't be free and there's a lot of pressure. If you can afford a therapist, grab a therapist, because you're not a person. Oh, you're not a person. You're talking from your feelings. Oh, my God. Didn't you just hear the families very stubborn? They don't listen. I feel. You don't listen. But I'm trying to, I feel like every time I bring something up, I get attacked. I know it's always that I feel. I feel. I feel. I feel. Yeah. I feel. It might not be exactly. So you're saying, step into the family dynamic using feeling words. You have the right to get angry at me, or blame me. But I feel. Tada. I literally hate my boyfriend's music. would totally be fine if we weren't dating because of course taste are different and everything, but he always This shows me his demos, please lie for me when he's working on something, et cetera. And I just sit through the whole thing. I'm struggling here, but I don't want to lie to him. I also don't want to crush his spirits. Oh, this is a very, because music, he, fuels everything. And if you don't like the music, it's not going to ignite the fuel. Right. I mean, maybe the fuel gets ignited other ways in this, because she didn't elaborate, but she's being very honest. I'm just assuming she could be a he, is it, doesn't matter? That's unclear. Does it matter? Does it matter? This is a tricky one. Nicole. I feel, I feel, I feel what you are trying to say with your music is not something that resonates with me, but I hope it resonates with everyone else to make any music you want. But I feel, I don't know how to help on that one, because that's insulting, this will crush the person. It's something you like in it. Someone new, maybe. Give him a bone. Give him a bone. Yeah. She can't give him the bone because it's not igniting the heart. Okay. I'm kind of in love with my best friend, and I have no idea what to do about it. Oh. Tricky. I genuinely can't tell if she feels the same, because we're both women. So who the fuck can really tell the difference between two people in love and female friendships? Like it's gotten to the point where I just forget that we aren't actually together. So in true text, propose something, just go, you know what? It's a weird thing I had a feeling for someone, and it's a woman, and then see how the friend responds. You know, the friend is like, oh my God, that's so gross, I can't believe you like a woman. Yeah. Then you know to step out. If someone goes, oh my God, that's amazing. I had a feeling for a woman as well. What was it like? No dip and see if that's even something that they're open to. Perfect. Patience is a virtue. Yeah. I don't have it, but it is a virtue. Yeah. Like really, and truly. I have a lot of it, either. You know what I'm saying? It's hard. Yeah. I have a little too much. I feel like you guys have the most patients. You work on film sets all the time. She, she, no, but her, when she says she doesn't have patients, she's got a lot of things to do, see, and explore. Like she's like, I'm not going to, I'm going to go. She's really bright that way. Like when you're on location, like you just. No, I just like, I'm curious, and I'm filled with wonder. Yeah. What is it? Diamond in the sky? No, I am. My love. You are like, reanna songs. It's like a diamond. It's like a diamond. I know. Shush. Diamond in the sky. Diamond in the sky. I'm just going to be the soundtrack to Nicole's life. I'm just going to be over here singing little vignettes for her answers. All of this. Yeah. I'm sorry. What was it like on set with you guys? Not this. It was a hard shoot. It was a hard shoot. It was a hard, not rose colored glasses. Oh my God. I'm going to kill you. I will kill you on live on this show. You're a Jonas pussy. We'll be moving here for my Squidward pussy. And we're going to do some physical stuff. By the way, stop. Recently, I have been oversharing my business and other people's business a lot. Oh, stop. That's not good. Stop. I don't understand why. I don't think at all when I speak. And after my stomach drops, because I know I shouldn't have said that. Oh, me. Always count to 30. Yeah. Walk out of the room. Yeah. Try your best because you don't want to do that. You don't want someone doing that to you. Right. Be someone who's a safe person to share business with. Mm-hmm. And if someone's sharing business with you that you know you can't keep walking away. Just go. I can't. I'm not a safe person to give this information to. Right. I can't hear it. I'll tell you. And I know it's enticed. It's really enticed. Someone goes, I've got some tea. My daughter from camp. I got so much tea. And I'm like, what is it? And I don't know these kids. And then after a while, I don't need to know that business. Right. I don't. I don't. Yeah. I really don't. My friends last. I can't wait quite. Good at this. You're. Yeah. Anything. I love doing it. Yeah. I know this is. We need to be like a therapist. Yeah. Yeah. And yes, yeah, that was so good and scary Island in New York when they all show up to the island and Cali Bensamoan has a psychotic break Yeah, no idea what you're talking about Notting is so you have to go on vacation together when there's discourse. Yeah, I'm a rental house That's fabulous and put them all together with alcohol and it's epic. It's genuinely epic. Yeah, I've watched the Beverly Hills One. Oh, so good. Just the last season. Oh just the last one. Yeah, actually faith and I watch the time because of the leather I've noticed I'm on you like I've just I've just started sliding down You shouldn't do an interview with leather or leather make a note for that for future guests. Don't wear leather Because I'm like literally like hey, Nicole See she says she wants to be held when she goes home. Here I am That was decades ago To be out when you have children come to your mother to hug every day Yes, yes, anything else. Do we get swag I was gonna offer it. I think you walk. Oh my god. Yes I'll give you a honey. I'll give your kids hoodies You take the whole rack. Okay, wow. Wow, you wreck. I'm crushing you right now Just my boob. That's that's a rack I was talking about. Yeah, I was a segwer Bye, pussy. Bye, pussy. Don't be one. No, be one