Session 137: Madelyn Cline Returns

welcome back to therapist tonight we have on the wonderful madeline klein again who is a dear dear friend of mine i remember meeting her a few years ago um when we were at the airport we were both waiting for our backs and she came up to me and i was just immediately so disarmed by how warm and kind she was as a person and every time i get to see her hang out with her i'm always i always feel so lucky and i every time she chooses to come on the show i also just feel so grateful so madeline thank you for coming back to therapist i love you so much the final season of outer banks starring madeline klein is out august 20th on netflix it is obviously incredible she is incredible and enjoy the episode i love you i love you pussies hi pussies today we have movie star television star and one of my best friends madeline klein back on the podcast you're so bad i missed you i've missed you too when was the last time was that like a year and a half ago no oh that was like the last time we hung out wait actually that was not the no and we're gonna get into it the last time we hung out was i got to play with madeline and glenn on their new movie the comeback king which was one of the best days of my life i had so much fun that was the best day of my life i like i was i was struggling that morning yep you know i was you know how my hangovers always last me two days yeah that was day two so that i was also a little stressed out i was on day one yeah do you want to come sit oh yeah this is madeline's dog rodney but he's really distracted by the does he want does he want to leave okay goodbye rodney's really okay well very short cameo by rodney hi hi i love you hi hi okay okay outer banks is coming to a close coming to a close five seasons five 50 episodes wow five zero which actually like when you say 50 it doesn't for seven years of filming it doesn't feel like it's oh why thank you manny i love these cups me too are these room temperature these are my cups i love your cups oh definitely breaths cheers cheers eyes eyes eyes we'll never have bad sex well i don't have sex so that shouldn't be hard me neither 50 episodes oh someone's what is there's a party i think we're speaking right now through our brains yeah and we need to speak through our mouths 50 episodes seven years seven years so when you say like 50 episodes it seems like it should it doesn't seem like as many it it makes it seem i don't know like for the amount of work that we put in 50 episodes like 40 minute episodes doesn't feel like that much but it was like most it was most of my 20s it was almost your entire 20s yeah like most of a decade and what did it feel like on like that last day of set okay so this is tea okay give it um so i am one of those people that does my morning in like i like i process it slowly over time like i i think ahead like i love to cross a bridge before it comes me too i'm the same exact way it's like let's plan for the cross out now i love putting a cart before a horse yes always um and so i i am i like had many oh my god there's so many things happening guys i'm so sorry it's kind of beautiful how many things oh my god i love your phone case okay so chaotic wow so apparently it's a full moon today yeah mercury's back in retrograde okay what does that what does that mean for like our signs it means what are you again i'm a sagittarius i don't know what it means for us but mercury and retrograde is never good i'm scared no it's never good it's actually quite horrible no actually like today has felt like a retrograde day it's not having a good one really yeah but pretty bad i need to call her so tell me about the last day on set and putting the cart before the horse okay so cart before horse so i had already kind of done my morning like throughout the entirety of shooting season five and so when it came to the last day everyone was sobbing and i was cheesing you were just like i was like i've already cried you were just like i was like i've already cried right i was in a state of mind i had no tears left to cry and um and so i felt really bad because i kind of felt like psychotic right you know but you know i also thought about it in the in like the the context of a scene you know how you you like when you're watching a scene where everyone's like devastated and crying and sobbing and having the same you know i think it's always interesting but i also think i think it could be like did you feel this is so niche but did you feel like pressured to cry so then you didn't cry some okay so that's another thing too i'm like sometimes i feel like sometimes i feel like i am there is a pressure to cry because it means you're sad but really like i was sad but i was more just like happy and proud of of all of like our collective accomplishment right um and that there were so many people there on the last day to not just the pogues but like lots of other cast members it was a really big day the hair and makeup trailer was like a full house yeah so i was just more i was more just happy that we were able to celebrate together at the end of the the day when they said like that's a picture wrap on madeline klein like did your what did your body like what did you feel i am going to mourn it so much but like it's a you know i am just so proud i'm so proud of it it feels like you're putting a ribbon yes it puts on a huge body of work very much allowed to be happy yeah i'd be like this is it celebratory the story is over totally proud of what you did exactly and i felt so proud and like where like how we i put like you know we put the story to bed we put sarah sarah to bed like we told the story we told it well hopefully like we made a show that people are going to want to go back and watch over and over and over again and and i you know honestly honestly like i'm really happy to not have to go shoot back shoot in in bogs and grassy knolls with gnats and that's okay and that's okay can't even can you imagine me in that environment oh my god i would i wish i could take you on a on a vibe tour what is the scene you're most proud of in season five i'm proud of any so okay i'm i break a lot okay like you laugh i laugh a lot okay like and i can't help it well we were laughing we were at the comeback we were laughing and so anytime i start laughing a lot of times it's because like when we're running it feels like scooby-doo or that we like we're like scurrying one way and then like bad guys come around the corner and then we have to like scurry the other way and um and i just started laughing at like the whole situation because it was so scooby-doo like that i had to i had to turn my face away from the camera and it was a it was like a drone so it was following us i did turn my face away from the camera and i was running full speed without looking where i was going because i was laughing so hard and i ran straight into the back of madison hit her so hard and then went flying like like and i went flying to the ground and skidded on the ground six feet and then it was one of those falls where people were like oh which is so embarrassing and then i just all i'm doing is like hitting her and then seeing blue because i was staring up at the sky right okay i was actually quite worried what do you mean what do you mean by that i know and then there's nothing and then you start laughing because it's like embarrassing but you're also laughing because you want everyone to think to know you're okay right and then they were like okay now can we continue the scene yeah they're like are you good okay no i fell down the flight of stairs a flight of stairs when i did a guest star thing at adults oh no like like full felt fell down the stairs banked by your head like huge thing everyone saw it it was so it was mortifying you just got it i'm really proud of us i'm proud of us too those are the scenes i'm really proud of so for those that don't know madeline and i spent a lovely weekend at coachella together yes we did it was very fun it was fun who did we see together okay sabrina we saw no you were with all the girls i was with charlie and will and cassidy that's shit that's right were you there for the strokes yes we i saw the strokes amazing amazing it was amazing i want to for my birthday i well because they're performing in new york on october 2nd and i want to go again we gotta go that was truly like that was that was unmatched it was euphoric i was having the time of my life we were having so much so much fun and then after the strokes you just you disappeared for beaver i did because i started to get really anxious because i figured out that we would have to stay there and wait we did and i know and then I was like, oh my God. And then what happens after Bieber ends? The mass exodus. Yeah, yeah. It was, Madeline, it was so horrible. My brain, like I went down the slide of anxiety and despair when I was thinking about, like mentally, when I was thinking about the exit plan. And I was like, I started to panic. Yeah, a thousand percent. And by the way, everything was cut off. I forget what it was, but they were like, we've never seen this in Coachella history. Like there were so many people there. Louise was with me. It was horrible. Like you, like it was horrible. It sounded so scary. And then also at the same time. And she's laughing at me because we had the best setup where a golf cart drove us home. No, no, your setup was. Wait, you know, the golf cart died on our way, on our way, on our way back for Bieber twice. The golf cart died. We started pushing it, like shaking it. And I was like, please, I need to go home. I need to get it. I need to go. I need to go home. I was freaking the fuck out. Everything was closed down. Oh yeah. I was, I was already like, I was again, cart before horse bridge before it came. And I was like this type you, that was correct because I should have known. I, but I also had so much fun though, because I was thinking about all like the parties and like, I was hearing the girls download about like the night and, and Sally's download. And Sally's download was crazy. Sally's download. It was crazy. I've never heard that before. Download. I love that. Yeah. Download. I'm going to start using that generational. Yeah. It was, it was, it was all the time. Yeah. That weekend was really special. No, that weekend was real. And I'm so glad you guys convinced me to go to that weekend. Even though I'm really sad. I miss Madonna. Me too. That physically hurt me too. But watching that. Oh my God. What was it like being in the house tour music video? I don't know if we ever even spoke about it. We actually, I don't think we did. No. Um, honestly to be, to, to be able to like, do spiders kind of count as octopus, octopus, right there. See it. Like it right here where my fingers. No, like literally next to my finger. Oh, Oh my God. Oh my God. Um, Nolan, what is it's missing legs. It's like a daddy long. This episode of therapist is brought to you by SeatGeek. It is, it is summer. I always say that, but it is summer. And I just had the worst FOMO from Lollapalooza of my entire life. And I know that I could have gone there. Had I purchased tickets on SeatGeek. SeatGeek is the easiest place to get tickets for concerts or any live events because they rate tickets on a scale from one to 10. One being not the best 10 being the best. And you can also use my code therapist for 10% off your purchase. Lollapalooza looked so fun. Like I forget how incredible it is to be in a crowd with an artist that you're a fan of. 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Thank you again, SeatGeek for sponsoring tonight's episode. How's tour? How was that? To look in the mirror and to know that I am part of the Sabrinaverse is truly one of, I feel like it's one of my, my favorite, my favorite accomplishments and an accomplishment. It is like I mean Sabrina I I adore Sabrina I have loved her for so long. She is such a good good person she's such a good friend and when she texted me to see if I wanted to be in a movie a music video I was like yes she's like you don't want to know which way you want or like course I was like no no the answer is yes absolutely. If Sabrina Carpenter asked you to be in a music video you're in the music video. Yeah like immediately, immediately yes. And was it just so fun to film? Yes it was two full days of we were in this big old house in the Hollywood Hills and it was just like it was all shot on film and it was Sabrina and Margaret directing it was their vision and it was just two old days of girlhood and a bit of this and that and, goofing off well it was amazing i like love seeing you be funny i your you know i always tell you your her comedic timing louise is all timer it's all timer my favorite thing you've ever said well first of all you were incredible in knives out but it was in i know you did last summer and it was when i think your boyfriend had just died and you come out and you go you know when, like, the girls are, like, you're sad, but you still have to get ready. Yeah. Or get around ready. Like, it was so funny. You know that meme? Like, it was so good. And that's why I'm so excited for The Comeback King, because I think you're about to be hysterical in it. And, oh, my God, I had the best time shooting that. I had the best time. I was in drag, basically in drag the whole time. Are you wrapped? Wrapped. Do you remember when I called you hungover? You called me when you were hungover. And I said, please, please let me come on the show, on the movie. And I was like, Jake, don't worry. Yeah. It's happening. And it happened. I knew it. And it was fun. We filmed. I guess we can't say much, but it was amazing. We got to play. We got to play. We got to play one morning. It was so cool to see. What was it like working with Glenn? I love Glenn. Best of all time. Glenn is genuinely one of the best people I have ever met in my life. He is, like. He is. He's, like, if the manual, the life manual of how to be a good person, one-on-one, came immediately, like, already downloaded into his hard drive. Because he comes, it's his, he's such a family guy. It's the southern charm. And his, like, his family is, like, is all that way. His whole family is, they're just, like, gold star humans. They're, it's just. And he's so talented. They're good eggs. They're all good eggs. So talented. So talented. He's so talented. So good at what he does. His comedic timing is amazing. And, like, the way he has leaned into this role, I think the way everyone leaned into this movie, and the comedians we have on for this movie, like, Judd, the, I mean, obviously Judd in general, like, it's just. That was such a, like, what, I couldn't imagine how you felt every day. Because in those, when I was doing my thing with you guys, and I was hearing, like, Judd from the director's chair, I was like, I actually can't believe this is my life right now. I know. I was like, this might be one of the coolest things to ever happen to me. It is such play. And the way he directs is awesome. I know. I really like it. It's so, it is, it's such, it's something I have never experienced before. It is so unique, but it also, you know, what I love about it is that it kind of takes away any sort of ability to overthink. Yes. About anything. And you just, like, brain empty, and you just do. Because he's like, wait, try this. Wait, do this. Wait, do this. You don't have time to think about it. You just do it. And you're just, you're so in the moment with it. It's so improv coded. Yeah, it is. It was, yes. And improv is my favorite type of comedy. Yeah. Oh my God, so fun. Now we need to talk about Love Island. Let's talk about Love Island. Because I'm not, okay, so I didn't watch the season, but Will made me watch Casa Amor last night. Okay, I'm two episodes behind. They just got back. So I watched the after sun, right after the recoupling. The recoupling, brutal. I cried during Trinity and Bryce. I don't know why I cried. I was just like, oh my God, she's so relieved and he's so relieved. And they were matching. Did you see that? No. They were matching. They were matching butter yellow. They were just like so, by the way, do you know Bryce was a Tumblr boy back in the day? I saw that. Like with Kendall, like fully. An it boy. An it boy. I was. So obsessed with that. And then things obviously took a turn. Yes. That was a very, very nasty turn. The Corbin of it all was pretty nasty. Was Corbin the one that said about Kenzie, oh, Kenzie's out the window? Yes. When they live streamed. Here's my thing about Kenzie is I don't watch the show, so I have no ground to stand on, but I never understood why people didn't like her. I was obsessed with her from day one. I think she's always been. Look, I think she is. I think she's sweet. I think she's funny. And I think she's fantastic television. She's fantastic television. Yes. I forget. Do you watch Housewives? Okay. So I need to watch Rhode Island. Please. I really need to watch it. Madeline, please. I know. It is one of the best first seasons of Housewives I've ever, ever, ever seen. That's what I was. I've been hearing that they just do not give me. They don't give a fuck. And they've known each other since they were kids. What do they call it? They call it like a slam pig. A slam. Oh, my God. I'm like, you're a slam pig. Get the fuck out of my house. A slam pig is the funniest shit I've ever heard. And then she shows up, the Kelsey who gets called the slam. Well, first, like the whole. To create the perfect first season of Rhode Island. of housewives you have to have somebody that has a very odd situation so in salt lake it was mary with her step-grandfather um in rhode island it was kelsey with her sugar daddy boyfriend who was she was dating some guy who lived in this massive house but he had other girlfriends in miami and so she was like a polygamist and rosie was like are you're a polygamist and then rosie's house was also she's rosie's also building a house and the house is supposed to be 5 000 square feet but it's actually 2 500 square feet so kelsey would not let her breathe about it not being 5 000 square feet that's really and then kelsey was like you don't you literally don't have a house and then kelsey at the or rosie at the reunion said your only co-workers were was ever another girl in miami like that was your only co-worker and basically being like you're a prostitute you literally don't even have a house you don't have a house speaking of prostitutes yeah speaking of who is one someone that we know i'm speaking of prostitutes did i tell you the story about how when i was in spain i was working and um the police kept showing up to my my apartment door thinking you were a prostitute they thought i was like like the the leader they thought you were a madam how many girls were staying in your apartment it's just me so what did they keep saying so i was talking with penelope cruz right as one does as one does and she was asking me how i liked living in madrid and i was like yeah i like it like hot take i like barcelona better but i have like i love barcelona and everyone's always like what the fuck are you talking about i love it i know i i can't i love it i love it so much i love the coast i love like catechesis like two hours up the road amazing just wine beach everything oh my god barcelona's perfect seafood paella all of it paella the clubs the dancing you know when i went there was a strike and i couldn't go dancing they were striking a taxi cab strike there's always a strike in europe there is always a strike in europe i know i'm like mad for you so what were you saying about oh yeah so you being a madam so uh i was telling her but i i love it so much but i have to move out of my apartment because the police keep showing up and i'm really scared and they keep talking to me in spanish and i'm trying to translate but i i don't know how but they keep taking my passport and my information and i'm scared because i'm like what have i done wrong and um and then penelope was like what's crazy like where are you living and i was like i'm living in um in salamanca and she's like that's my that's where i is it salamanca i think so and she's like that's my old neighborhood i was she was like what street are you on and i said the street and then she said what building number and i told her and she was like is it the yellow building down like an alleyway through a gate and she said that's my old building shut the fuck up that's my first apartment building and she's like and my neighbor my old neighbor called me and told me that they had like they had tracked some like local like some like crime ring like in salamanca they attracted to i guess they attracted back to the building and i and they were coming to my apartment directly and i found out later that it was like some like sex ring and they thought you were the leader it was me leading it right they thought i was the madam of it so yeah so speaking of prostitutes so actually speaking of prostitutes but also like also no hate at all at all at all but but they but they thought that i was i was their their fearless leader and i wasn't i was their fearful leader i was a fearful you were you were you were elected i guess by accident i was i was accidentally elected to be madam and i i wish they would have let me know i wish they would have let me know because i i would have i probably would have been a lot braver about it what else are you watching on television right now um mostly love island i just also started playing fortnite what yes and i won my very first battle royale i actually see you loving that i was having so much fun i have um a bugs bunny skin and no sorry i have a lola bunny skin and i just got the new supergirl skin how is lucas i love him so much i miss him every day i'm not with him yeah i i know i know i'm i was texting him on the way over i was like i need you i need to come cuddle and cry because i think i'm about to start my period tomorrow and it's the full moon and mercury is in retrograde great oh shit it's a crazy combination is he here in la right now he is well oh and you were just at the voicemails for isabel premiere with him right no i was he was so great in that movie him and his mustache he played straight he did a really good job he did a really great job he did a really good job of being in the movie he did a really good job of being in the movie a diabolical straight man yeah he was and he was so fucking funny too his souffle was ass ass did you watch voicemails for isabel yeah like it was he was so fucking funny he in a lot of his stuff was just improv i could tell yeah you can always tell because it's always funnier it's so funny it's always funnier it's just improv is always funnier because it is quite hard i feel like to write a joke and perform that joke 10 times over it always it always is it's never which is again why i think style works so well is because it is never the same thing right you can like the thing is the only time it's the same thing is you can tell when he wants to get multiple versions of it is because he likes it but like he always likes to keep it fresh right and that's but yeah the first the first time something's funny is like lightning in a bottle crack making someone laugh is actually my crack actually crack like hearing like when you were on set for the comeback king like when you would hear the crew laugh was it did it just like fuel you for the rest of the day oh it gave me like i would have to go home and take like a couple hours just to wind down because every day was the best day ever yeah because like especially especially these like this set and like the people that judd right like his writing partners like his i mean his his filmmaking partners that he's worked with for so long it like i kept thinking oh my god like what what an honor to make them laugh right it's an honor to make comedians laugh there's no better feeling holy shit like me yeah it's like yeah you know and also it is such a confidence boost because it's like oh i can't i can do this i okay okay i am employed and happy deserve and confident yeah and confident and confident in my ability to be employed yes or no i'm confident which is um you know sometimes i feel like you and i are two brain cells we are fighting over being the third yeah yeah right uh-huh right it's because they're okay for reference madeline and i have not caught up in weeks did i just say for weapons for weapons madeline and i have not caught up in weeks we haven't so what are you therapist about today i'm therapist about people's men's audacity uh-huh and that is a it's a real thing it's a real thing yeah but i would say that you handle it always with grace not this time oh yeah this time i did not every time okay i'm learning how to handle things with grace no you handle things with grace there are certain things you call me about that i'm like holy shit if i were you well i would literally burn the world down and you don't yeah i i'm learning i'm learning uh how to i wouldn't say hold back how to have discernment in certain situations thank you amazon prime for sponsoring today's episode if you are 18 to 24 years old i am insanely jealous of you not because of your youth but because you are eligible for prime for young adults i've never been so sad to be 26 not just because i'm closer to 30 but because prime for young adults is basically your own prime 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adults five percent cash back a hundred percent yours prime for young adults is only available for people 18 to 24 years old term supply thank you prime for sponsoring tonight's episode did you see the jojo siwa cruise okay yeah so can we talk about that what what was it so what i wanted to be there i did too what what is that like i wanted to be there it looked very she's in the pool with everyone telling them all about her birthday she's like there was a meet and greet in her penthouse suite like i was like i like i'm down so like did she like pay for a no so actually what happened was the rest she she rented out like a portion of the cruise the rest of the cruise was like people on a cruise and then the other half was jojo siwa fans okay did you see like the um there was one guy who was doing like a rundown of yes the gift bag like the ai slop stickers yes yes the ai slop stickers and she performed boomerang and actually like a very emotional way yeah as a like a heartfelt ballad it was a heartfelt ballad she did boomerang as a heartfelt ballad people were sobbing yeah to be honest put me in that situation and i probably would have been crying too yeah i kind of wanted to be there with you JoJo Siwa, people give her a lot of shit, but what would we do without her is my question. JoJo Siwa kind of feels to me like the same way like Trader Joe's does. Please elaborate. Because I was actually talking about Trader Joe's the other day. Okay, so Trader Joe's to me like kind of has this vibe where it's like what aliens would have like built as a grocery store because they think that's what we would like. And the thing is it's working. Yeah. And like it is one of those, like it is an experience. It is, like the first time I saw a Trader Joe's, I went into a Trader Joe's, I was like. Yeah, you're like what's, the food doesn't feel real. It's real. It doesn't feel real. It feels like a little cultish, like when you don't understand. Like when it first came to Charleston and I was a teenager, I was like why is everyone freaking out about this? Were people like gagging for Trader Joe's? People were gagging for Trader Joe's. Like people were leaving Whole Foods in droves to go over to the Trader Joe's. And then like now I get it. But it's like all the things they have, it's like what I think the aliens would, were, you know, if they were studying us would be like, does this make any sense? Yeah, it makes complete and utter sense. It's actually one of the most things that has made sense in this room in a long time. And also I would like to say, have you seen the videos of the people fighting over the Trader Joe's totes? Yes. What is that? Do you know? Yeah, I've seen it. The little mini ones were cute. Are they like Jacques? Are they like a Jacques? So why are people. Why are people freaking the fuck out about it though? I actually don't know. I don't know that part. Yeah, I don't get it. People are like in Black Friday style, like over each other, like begging for these totes. I know. Wait, how many were the minis? It's like the, it's like a Birkin of Trader Joe's. Oh my God. It's like the Birkin of tote bags. Yeah. Yeah. They do like limited edition. Oh my God. What's your favorite Trader Joe's item? My favorite Trader Joe's item. Cause I know mine. Honestly, like I know this is like a fact. It's not my dad, but like the chicken soup dumplings. They're great. Yeah. My favorite is two things. When I was a kid, my dad used to make me their penne arrabbiata. Yum. All the time. Yum. It comes in, it's frozen. So you pour it out in the pan and there's cubes of sauce. Yes. I love the cubes. And you make it. And it tastes just like from a restaurant. And then the bibimbap bowl. I haven't tried that one. It is nothing short of fantastic. I could eat 10 in a row. And they sometimes don't sell them at certain Trader Joe's. And in college. In college, I would eat them in high school, in middle school, in college, I would eat them almost daily. I like, I genuinely love going to Trader Joe's so much. And also. Cause it's just an ad for Trader Joe's. So basically, thanks for watching. Thanks for getting it, making it this far. Also the, I think it's like the chicken wine, like the red wine. I've never had it. So, I mean, I say it's a chicken wine. There's an actual name for it, but it has a chicken on it. So it's wine. It's wine. Got it. Red wine. And they're peanut butter. Peanut butter pretzels used to be like my nightly dinner. You want to try my candy? The Koch's? Yeah. Have you tried the Sours? No. Do you like Sour? I, Sour's my favorite. Manny, would you grab me a fresh pack of Sour Puss? Manny Daddy! This is the week, this is actually a few weeks before, technically before it arrives in Target. Oh, I'm really, oh wait, this is exclusive. Okay. It's so good, right? The texture. I know. Here's the thing. I'm not a candy person. Just wait till you get to the tentacles. Tense up, pussies. The texture of like gummy candy just doesn't really do it for me. I like Hi-Chews. Yeah, I love Hi-Chews. I like Mochi. Like this texture. Hard but soft. Right? It's like awesome. They're like actually so awesome. That's better than any, any like candy I've ever had. I know. That's how I feel. My favorite thing is ice cream. Why is Alex crashing out because she can't find a Katchez? Oh, it's the best thing ever. Wait, there's this video of her. She's trying to get Katchez. I know. I'm going to freak the fuck out. Katchez is at Wawa. Might take over my whole entire life. Do you think this is the only one they have? The Wild Free? Hi. Katchez, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. I'm going to just, what? Wait, guys, that's, Jake, they have them at Wawa. That's big. He's like, baby, you're big. Baby, you're big. God, isn't she the best? I love her. I genuinely love her so much. Me, Madeline, Stoss, and Alex all hanging, and Peyton all hanging out in one room. It's going to be tectonic, I fear. Yeah, the plates will shift. Louise said, Louise was like today, she was like, wait, so, okay, you'll be back in LA on July 27th. I said, nope. Uh-uh. No, honey, no, baby. It's Ibiza time. Ibiza. Which I've never been. Have you been? Nope. Oh, shit. I'm really excited. Yeah. I'm having a lot of firsts this year with you guys. I know. Was it your first Coachella? Yeah, ever. Did you enjoy it? You know what I enjoyed? I enjoyed being with y'all. Uh-huh. I enjoyed Sabrina's set, of course. Uh-huh. I enjoyed being, obviously, with the girls, and like, of course, I love the golf carts very much. Obviously. Those are the best parts. Um, yeah, of course. Um, but, like, my, like, my favorite part about Coachella was being truly, like, with you guys. Oh, I met Drew Starkey. You did? Yes, I did. I love him. He is so lovely. Yeah. He's so awesome. He is really lovely. Are you, do you guys still talk, the cast? Um, yeah, Drew and I, um, actually spoke recently. Drew is one of those people, like, Drew, I think, Drew and I understand each other very well. And I think we always have, because he and I are pretty, like, like, I have moments where I'm chronic, like, I am kind of chronically online, but, like, he and I have moments where we, like, I fluctuate, but we've both kind of been those people that are, like, like, phone lost. He's offline. Don't care. Yeah, he's super offline. Like, if I, like, he and I both will, like, we'll leave our, our phones and our trailers and, like, just forget about it or, like, so, like, I have so many, like, my, like, I have so many. I have so many missed phone calls, emails, unpaid parking tickets. Right. You name it. So does Peyton. Yeah. Quite a few. Like, that's, so, like, I understand when I don't hear from him, I know it's just because that is. Him. That is Drew Starkey. He is an offline person. He's so lovely, though. He is so lovely, but, like, when I do, when we do get to talk, it's, like, he is, like, my brother. Yeah. Yeah. My best friend admitted to me that they've been using an AI chatbot as, like, their old friend for a while now. I find this incredibly, I find this incredibly unsettling, but apparently he said it helps him actually talk to people in the real world, which he was never really great at. He's, like, excited to tell me about it and finds no issue here. Please help. Okay. So that would never be me, personally. Right. That would never be me, but, because here's why. Also, do what you have to do. You know what I mean? But it's fate. Do your thing. But it's, but here's the thing. Here's the, here's the thing about, like, I think, and I could be wrong. Someone correct me. I take, like, full responsibility if I'm wrong. However, like, AI chatbots cater to your, like, like, pattern recognition and, like, what you're saying. Yes, you're, you're, you're right. And, like, they also tend to, like, kind of, maybe, I don't know. Tell you what you want to hear. Yeah. It's kind of, like, maybe not the most accurate depiction of socializing. Right. With, like, a real person with, like, thoughts and feelings. Maybe, maybe tell him now that he's able to socialize and it's helped him to cut it. Yeah. I think, I think cut it. And there are plenty of people to practice on. Right. Real world. Like, real people. Like, real world. Yeah. But now, what's done is done. He did it. He told you. He did it. Yeah. Because, also, I think there are, like, there are people who have genuine, like, addictions too. AI? Yeah, AI. Yeah, I think they do. Yeah. It's, like, a real addiction. Yeah. I've never been a. Me neither. We don't need to be using it in replacement for humans or to be writing movies or making music or anything that requires actual feeling and connection. If you're using it as a substitute for genuine human reaction, I feel like you're looking, or social interaction, you're probably looking in the wrong place. You're definitely looking in the wrong place. Yes. I'm such a people pleaser and it's completely halting any personal growth I could be doing. I love helping people, but now the scales have tipped and everybody only comes to me for help. I'm so drained and barely get to talk about myself or my issues with my friends because they're so bad at listening but need me to listen to them, you know? I don't really know what the first steps are here. I think the first step is if you're not going to help yourself and most, or if you're not going to help yourself and speak up for yourself, then people aren't going to, you have to take the first step. And be like, you guys don't listen to me? Yeah, you have to take this first step and communicate like, hey, I feel like I am giving a hundred percent and I'm not getting anything in return. I need help. Right. Because if you can't help yourself, then a lot of people won't help you. Right. You have to be the first to say something. Well, no one's going to, because it's. it's impossible it's it's very it's rare for you to just kind of suffer in silence and hope someone sees it correct you have to like say something you have to be like you guys don't listen to me and i help you with everything and then if they come back at you and nothing changes new friends new friends and there's always time for new friends there's always time for new friends there's always time for growth and sometimes like some people are there for you for a season and that's amazing but like you can't you can't just continue with bad friends what music are you listening to right now all of ariana grande yeah but on repeat is hate that it made you love me yeah killer oh my god killer i'm so excited for pedal there's so much good music coming out there's the new gracie abrams album the ariana grande album the strokes album the new ryan beady album has a new song you know i love a carly right you so bad she's incredible i know have you ever seen her live no me manny and will went or manny will and i sorry went to see carly ray live and she did a motion front to back like run away with me and it was just it was life changing i love her i love her unabashedly yeah she's great i we love pop music we are pop princesses we are we are we are connoisseurs of pop we really really are we are yeah my friends are all chronically late it's to the point where they are hours late for literally anything hours it's crazy whoa okay anything and everything i love them so much i just cannot stand chronically late people how do i bring this up without sounding like a bitch because it's all of them well like if it were five minutes even 30 sure fine but hours i don't want to lose it on them but it makes my blood boil please help well that is that is just blatant disrespect of someone's time right yeah um there are two solutions bring it up and talk to them and tell them in you know maybe better words what the fuck or two set their call times earlier yeah that's what that's what i do with my best friend alice yeah i'm like we need to be ready by 12 even if it's 12 30 and then she'll be we'll go at 12 30 yeah like if you need them to be there by two tell them you need them there because it's never really malicious it's never malicious some people are just late yeah but if it's also it's if it's one of those things where they like you genuinely have to be on time yeah and also another thing too is like like you know when you're with a big group of people you know sometimes like sometimes managing a whole group of people is like hurting marbles yeah and like it can be it can be really tough like everyone's on their own time everybody's got like you know their own things going on some people aren't managing like don't manage their time i'm i'm kind of like i it's something i'm working on is being better at being on time i feel like you were a timely person i i do get really anxious about being not on time but i also because but i get carried away like getting ready or i get carried away with my alarm or like like snoozing it yeah and i i always underestimate how much time i actually need like you're like oh i can make this work and you can't i can make this work in 15 minutes when i really need 30 i've been doing that lately yeah it's one of the worst feelings in the world it is one of the worst worst feelings in the world like when you're like okay like i can wake up at 8 30 for something at nine no you can't no you cannot you have to wake up at eight you absolutely cannot yes if it takes 30 minutes to get there you have to wake up at eight correct because you need time to like adjust to the world right i need to like sneeze 10 times before i can like you know start doing my makeup right of course you know what i mean as one does after a night out of drinking with this guy i've been seeing we woke up the next morning damp i said to him you must sweat a lot in your sleep and he was like yeah i guess then we had the thought to take a closer look and sure enough he pissed the bed i played it off like i thought it was funny but in hindsight that is so gross i really like him and don't know if this is a worthy ick or not i mean are we sure i can look past are we sure who pissed the bed if we were both unconscious right i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to defend him though he was like uh this was me like i've done this before like maybe in the this was me yeah have you ever had a guy pee in your bed no no no no never never never i that um look i think if it becomes a habit or if it is a habit then it's a problem but if it's a one-off if it's a one-off that is a very intimate and embarrassing thing and everybody has intimate and embarrassing things that happen but we are all human everybody has intimate embarrassing things that happen just make sure it doesn't happen again it's like things like that will happen sometimes and honestly if a guy peed in my bed and owned it yeah i'd be like all right just don't let it happen again hey yeah just you know what i mean if you constantly pee then it's like maybe maybe there's a deeper issue that we can we can unpack right i wasn't i'm not a drunk peer me neither but i do pee all the time if i have to pee i'm i'm sprinting to the bathroom sprinting to the bathroom because i don't know what song they're gonna play next right what if they start playing dancing on my own and i'm in the bathroom because i decided to wait too long right i've never been a religious person but one of my best friends is very religious it has never been an issue or something we really talk about however she recently told me she's anxious that i will go to hell and that she wouldn't be a true christian if she didn't tell me this i was so uncomfortable and didn't know what to say in the moment i felt like this is starting to have felt like i feel like this is starting to affect our friendship and i don't know how to bring this up again it is yeah there is are there are ways to be religious i think like like real true religion is having your beliefs and then you're like oh my god i don't know how to bring this up again and keeping them and believing in them standing 10 toes down on them yourself and not pushing your your agenda onto other people because her saying that to you is pushing her religious agenda onto you right well like those those statements always start with well i believe right and then it's inherently saying like well you should believe this too right well i believe and okay that's great you you believe that but like there's a difference between religion and like organized religion or there's a different exactly there's a difference between organized religion and projecting like your own beliefs yeah as like i don't know some sort of means of like making yourself feel bigger or like that's what it always is at the end of the day i know and and there's like you can you can be religious you can be spiritual you can have like a core set of beliefs dude look at meg stalter yeah loves god so religious does not push it on anybody yeah well at the end of the day it's always about like preaching preaching and um and showing like love love is a word that is constantly used like i think people say god is love right okay well let's like let's talk about the definition of love then right because it's not enforcing a belief system or rules onto other people just because you said so right did you grow up religious yes really i did wow i didn't know that about you i would like yeah i have organized religion and i have murky waters yeah yeah yeah but i like i'm very like i i'm very spiritual for sure of course yeah i think having like a set of beliefs like a like a strong belief system is very important of course yeah me and my friend group have all been single for the longest time since the middle of college or so good for y'all yeah well then out of nowhere everyone in my group besides me starts getting cuffed up over the past year and now there's this weird pressure for me even though i'm pretty happy alone right now but my now my friends aren't seeing me as much oh that's that's tough that's because i always have a single girl with me yeah payton yeah we love you shout out payton and i it's always payton and i but but you also like like because sometimes when i'm in relationships or like seeing you know i get i get really excited and then i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm excited and so i'm like you're like i jumped i mean i would always say if i was in a relationship i would be with the guy 24 fucking seven i jump feet first i'm so excited and then i realize after like you know a month or two i'm like i start to panic i'm like where the fuck are my friends right i'm like where are my friends and i start to kind of like because my friends to me are like everything and they're like that's like my that's my foundation like and so then i'm like oh my god like what am i what am i doing and so like when that starts to happen and you see people start to kind of like go off like that is it is a really it's a very isolating feeling so isolating my advice would be to have one of the couples take you under their wing as like their adopted child like kaya and lewis say i'm their adopted child and i never feel like a third wheel i always feel like i'm part of the group like you know what i mean you just need to make your it's honestly on your friends to make you feel included because it's not their fault that they're in relationships but it is their fault if they're not making you feel included in their relationship enough in and find some single friends and also yes and find some single friends but i'm also one of those people like when my friends are in relationships i always get really excited because i'm like oh new friends new new addition to the friend i feel the same i always love to bring like the group together but i would watch how to be single which i've never seen but i always prescribe because like i love that i'm sure it tells you how to be single with dakota johnson okay i'm gonna watch that right it's apparently one of the best i kind of need that i went on vacation with my best friend's family to their house and they came in and i had sex with her older brother on the last with on vacation but they broke up a week before what do i do he's not being subtle and i feel like it's so obvious what happened and i'm paranoid my friend is gonna find out whoa by the way i would do that if my best friend's brother was so fucking hot and he wanted to have sex with me on the last night i would do it and just apologize after wouldn't you and so here's the thing we can't we look girl we we can't turn back time we can't you can't you can't turn back time you did what you did you have to tell your friend you did you did what you did you can't turn back time you do have to be honest about it because here's the thing if he's not being subtle about it it's going to come out right to get to your friend be like holy shit i fucked your brother that's perfect holy shit i fucked your brother i'm so sorry i fucked your brother i don't know what to do burst into her room oh my god i had sex with your brother last night i'm so sorry i'm so sorry start crying yes bring out the water bring out the waterworks start crying be like i'm so sorry i fucked your brother let it let it out let all the emotions out some just like have like just you know word soup if you own something there people can't take shit from you one whenever i have fucked up whenever i own it and i am like just like honestly yes i know what i did was bad and you own it and you apologize like that is genuinely the best thing you can't control someone else's reaction right you can you cannot don't try to play god with people's emotions by like making up some like excuse or story just own it right just own it when you own something people can't tell you shit just don't they can tell you shit but like they'll get tired of telling you shit because you've already admitted to it and yeah and you've already admitted to it you've already apologized for it and like it's their decision whether or not to move on or right it's like you're essentially putting the ball on their court correct i'm a photographer and i get good angles of everyone in my work but also in my friend group it's really starting to annoy me because when i want a picture they take the worst photos ever literally what do i do train them i've given tips and it's in one ear out the other as old as time yeah i don't know how to i don't know how to help that's um some people have it or they don't i kind of agree yeah and like that's why that's why you always hear people talk about like you know being the designated photographer of the group maybe ask a stranger maybe do you mind taking a photo of me really maybe ask a stranger or i think yeah you can definitely coach people but sometimes like people's dedication to like taking bad pictures is just completely i get called out for it all the time when we when i was in france stoss would be like you are putting zero effort into these fucking photos i've taken so many fucking photos of you start putting an effort and honestly when you start to put in when your friends start to put in the effort they will take good photos yeah and also if you call people out then like or if you call someone out about it then they will start thinking about it but also let's just take a moment for the fact that stoss and like her understanding of angles is so beautiful she wants i told her to write a book it's like watching the mona lisa be painted no you don't understand we were like we were like we're like alex was like oh she was uploading photos from her camera and alex was like oh shit i only have the the mini sd card so i was like oh don't worry pulls out a mini adapter for the big adapter she like literally i've never seen anything like it in my life she like her her ability to yeah she's she is like she's kind of my god she's kind of my god she is yeah no stoss is everything i miss her so i miss her so badly okay madeline what did we learn today we learned that men have the audacity that men have the audacity but we've we've been knew that yeah we learned that you were mistaken for a madam that i was mistaken for a madam it wasn't as glamorous as i thought maybe being mistaken for a madam would be well madeline jake i love you i love you more and we have so much to say to you i love you more and we have so much to say to you i love you more and we have so much to say to you i love you more and we have so much shit to talk we have so much shit to talk i'm ready my body's ready i'm also my body is physically ready