Session 126: Bowen Yang

(upbeat music) - Okay, high pussies. Honestly, I haven't done a life update in "Trowing a Wile", so I'm gonna give you a few. For those that don't know, my wrist has been flaring up. Like, what flaring up? This is like the first time it's ever happened. So, my wrist hurts. And I have tendonitis. It's not like that deep. It's just like, it's fixable. Like a lot of pregnant women get it. Like, I've been super hyperfaxated on it. Like, every night I go to bed and I like Google photos of like tendonitis and like what it looks like because it's like an inflamed tendon that's like going over a muscle. It's like so inflamed. So my wrist sometimes just like really, really, really hurts and gets super swollen. And I was super stressed out about it because I was going to Monaco for the Grand Prix with, I'll know this weekend, I was like, literally. Okay, like it was literally the best weekend of my life. Like, I really don't think I've ever had so much fun. But yeah, so I wore my brace on night one and then on night two, I think I took off the brace. And at that point, the brace just started coming off. It's to queridanes tendonitis. I'm just fascinated by it. Like, I can't stop thinking about like, and so sometimes like my wrist will crack or hurts. But I had the best weekend of my life. Like, every night was fun because of Alex Toss and Stella and Toss made a vlog of the whole weekend and I'm just like literally sitting here and being like, I need to watch it so I can laugh again. Because I seriously like, I was crying off it. I did have a thought today. Basically, like there was a B that was on me and someone and I was like, they were like, oh no. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. The B won't sting you if you don't move. Think of yourself like a flower. B's don't sting flowers. And then I said, B's are like cowboys because cowboys always find a green or pasture Carter Faith song. It's the definition of like, treat others the way you want to be treated, but with B's. And I just, I literally thought I was like, oh my god, that was such a good thought. Tonight we have Bowen Yang on who I think is just one of the funniest, kindest, most talented human beings on planet Earth. - I love the Last Culturist's Culture Awards, which are airing June 17th on peacock. - Oh, my back, okay. You know what, I think I just need to lay down. - So basically, the Last Culturist's Culture Awards are airing on June 17th on peacock and last year, Louise and I went and like, it was legitimately the best night of my life. I think, oh my god, we were crying laughing. And like, to be able, and I felt so lucky to see it in person. And I just, I was so funny last year. So I'm so excited to see how funny it was this year. Oh, peacock, love Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Love, probably one of my favorite shows on television right now. Oh, I'm watching a lot of TV. I'm watching Widow's Bay. I'm watching Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Oh, oh, I'm gonna start the F1 show because I just thought F1. I guess that's all I have to share. Okay, enjoy the episode with Bowen. I love you, Pussies. (upbeat music) (laughing) God, I love you. - I love you so much. - Can I tell you something? - I just, I think such font thoughts. - Every time. - Every time. - Well, I'm your daughter. - You're my daughter. - Yes. - My daughter. - Sorry, my daughter. - My daughter. And I just congratulated you on this new venture. - Oh, my conscious venture. - Please spell it for me. - K-A-T-J-E-S. - Did I sound so stupid when I said conscious? - No. - It's not your brand. - Sure. - Yet. - Yes. - What if I just went in there and I would know? - Okay. - I think I'd be better. - Tuck it. (laughing) - No, I wouldn't dare. Were you, were you a protective possessive growing up? - What is that? - Are you mad? - I'm just saying, were you like very like this is mine? 'Cause if I were to come out from under and steal that title from you, you would-- - Well, yeah, but like, but I think, I think I, would you label me as that type of kid that'd be like mine? I think I was a good shareer. - I'm sure you were. - I think I was a good shareer. I don't like sharing the spotlight. - That's great, that's totally fair, 'cause it's not meant to be on more than one person. That's why there's a spotlight. You're telling the audience where to fucking look and it can't be more than one place. - You're right. - That's it. - How are you? - We both have excruciating back pain. - Mine feels, it's had better. - Good. - But it was really, really bad for him in it. - Yeah. - It was, there was a knot between my shoulder and my rib and like-- - It's not the back. - It was right here. - Oh, okay. - It was right here. And I was like a dick. And I think I massaged it out. - Oh, good for you. - Yeah. But I also got it cracked three times. - Yeah, you did. - How is life post-SNL? - I'm weird. - Yeah. - I feel like I'm chopped, clapped. I'm done in this town. - What? - Yeah. - But you wanted, you were ready. - Oh, of course. (laughing) - But I, no, I just, I'm constantly readjusting. I think I'll be in that mode for a while and that's fine. You know what I mean? - It's like, well, what were you like the fall after graduating high school? - I was very, actually, I felt-- - It's okay if you were, if it wasn't right. - I was a mix of both. I was a mix of like, I feel chopped, but also like I feel like, I had this amazing job that I was like so obsessed with. - Can I say, I think your Raya profile still says, you're like the global marketing coordinator at 10K projects. - So what is, and is that a little conversation starter? - No, I just didn't, no. Okay, so actually, it's so funny you bring that up because at dinner last night, I was with these girls and they were like, you know, you don't need to have a job on there. 'Cause I didn't know what to put like personality. - I thought if I put-- - Hell on earth to think about that. - I thought if I put like, comedian people would be like, you're not-- - Right. - What does yours say? - I don't think I have a title. 'Cause I-- - Look at me, you just hit backspace, backspace, backspace. - Yeah. - So I don't have a title. - You wait, you know what I saw? Some gay guy on Reels? Listen to that sentence. Some gay guy on Reels was like, the new dating app is part of full. - In what world? - You zero and on someone you see going in a event that you're going to, you'll go, I'll meet that person there. You call your target before you go to the event. - Oh, okay, that's how interesting. - A part of a culture that means that like, people don't necessarily show up. - Right. - 'Cause I certainly don't show up to 95% of my part of full stuff. - I love getting a part of full, but can I say though, part of full does not touch a Facebook party invite. - Do those still happen? - No, and when they do-- - And when they do, you're right. We didn't know how good we had it. - Well, no, I knew. 'Cause I didn't get invited to them for a while, and then when I started getting invited to like, Facebook parties, do you remember the rush? And you would like, they would be a bio for it, and everyone would comment, and like, Facebook was where it was at. - You're right. - Facebook was fucking awesome. - Forget that. - I miss it every day. (laughing) I miss Facebook every day. - But, 'cause you feel a certain sort of malaise around the other platforms, probably. You're like, God, this is like-- - Facebook was just awesome, because like, I loved uploading an album. - Yes, oh my God. - Facebook was like, the perfect app. - You're right. - It was perfect. - Absolutely, did you, were you of the time when you would have to USB stick in your digital camera? No? Okay, God bless. That was actually, I actually maybe feel like we're gonna return to that, and also, it was a nice time. It was a nice time when you had to like, really select your photos to then share it with the world. Unlike now, when you open up your camera, when it's like 75,000 images. - Yeah, oh well, you favorite. - No. - I love it Instagram, Dom. That's what I'm really into these days. - You have mastered the art. - Shut up, have you noticed? - Yes. - My last one, everyone was like, is really good. (laughing) - What do you think are like the hallmarks, the trademarks of a Jake Shane dump? - Like, here are my friends, here are the places I've been. - Here's my body. - Here's my body, and these are the clothes I'm wearing. - Okay, so it's all about appearance. - No, no, of course. (laughing) And I mean, at this point, we're all hip to it. - Right. - Okay, so you're saying appearance? No, no, sorry. Body, friends, shopping, and what was the other one? - Here are the places I've been. It's like, oh, like my latest, I was like in LA and New York. (laughing) - So I was like, and I made the caption April into May. - Yes! - And then my song was Need for Speed. 'Cause it's amazing. Have you been listening? - Can competitors need for speed? - Yeah. - I love it. - It's amazing. I'm so happy. - How are you feeling about the summer coming up? - I forget that it's happening. - Mm-hmm. - I think I'm excited. I think I'm excited. - I'm excited. - Well, I just, you can never bet on anything too hard. I can't bet on like, I'm gonna have a minute. I cannot confidently say it's gonna be an amazing summer. - Do you have plans? - Not really. - Fire Island? - Yeah, when we can July, I'm gonna see Ari at Barclays. - We're gonna go together? - Really? - Yes! - Are you, you're my daughter! - I'm from my country, though, with you to Ari at Barclays. - Yes, please. - Oh, I'm so excited. - I would love that. - When is it? - July? - No, what are you doing? - I'm in Greece. - But I'm so sad that you can't come to Ari with me. - I know, I'm kind of actually now a little stressed. - Oh! - Though that's when those dates are, when is LA? - Opening and opening in Oakland. - Yeah, we're planning on going to Oakland. - Yeah, like, how are you feeling about pedal? - Pedal sort of overlapping into this live experience. Well, 'cause by the time she starts, the album will not be out. She'll probably perform some songs. - And then. - I don't know nothing, by the way. - Not to god, I don't know nothing. - And I believe you. - Yes. - I love it, 'cause it's so, like, ultimate pop diva I can do whatever I want. - Totally. - I can start the tour. I'm releasing the album in the middle of the tour. Do whatever the fuck I want. - It's very like. - Taylor. - It's very Taylor. It's very Sabrina too. - Yes. - Sabrina doing like, Memphis round in the middle of Sweden, short and sweet, and then kind of, I think she's about to know something new, perhaps, I don't know. - Is she? - That's the, that's the, the scuttle butt. - That's the scuttle butt. - She's a workaholic. - Couldn't be me. - Couldn't, could not. - Could not, could not. - You're doing all the way, can I try the gummies? Can I try this on Jess? - No, no, it's okay, it's okay. All right. - Oh my god, I'm taking two. - Yeah. - Oh my god, these colors? - No, you're gonna die. You're actually going to die. - They're actually, do you like sour? - Yes. - Oh my. - No, I, and the, I know. - And I know. - To die. - To die, right? Like, really good. - Jake, I'm so happy for you. - Thank you. - This is like my, we were saying in the car, like that's like our dream job is to work for a gummy, can I? - Yeah, you know in August, we're going to Dusseldorf. - Fun. - What? - What do you feel about the, is that the gummy capital? - That's where, that's where Conscious headquarters is. - Oh. (laughs) - Have you, have you been to Germany? - No, never. - I think we should go to Berlin. - Oh, I want to go to-- - Berlin? - Yeah. - It's just like, Berliners are just like so lovely, and sweet, and cool, and earnest, and like a way that like, I always feel so not New York or LA, where everyone's trying to be like someone posture. - LA's the worst with it though. - Yeah. - New York, New York is much better. LA's the worst. I can't find a man in LA to save my life. - What was, you've talked about this, but I just, just, just gay to gay, like mother to daughter. - Yeah. What would you say is like the defining thing about, about LA dating for you, that your group are like-- - I think LA is, I don't know what it is. It's just harder there. I think everyone works in entertainment, or wants to work in entertainment. Which isn't bad. - No, it's not exactly bad. - New York is about like, we care about what you're like as a person, a little bit. - We care about shopping. - Yes. - You go. (laughing) - Rule of culture. - Rule of culture, we care about these things. I totally get it. Why I think LA is, I think people are, I think New York is guilty of this too. It's like people are thinking about the upgrade. - But it's also, it's harder to congregate in LA. In New York, like, in New York, I meet men out. Like, but people ask for my number out, or like, it happened once, and it was very exciting. But like, I'll also like, I'll find it like, I just like, more confident in New York. I don't know what it is. - This is the perfect time of year. - It's the perfect time of year. It's hot out, you're outside, you're drinking, you're like having fun, and then you feel confident where it's in LA, you're in a car constantly or you're home. I'm a home, we're in a car. - Totally. We are recording this, I'm sorry to, we can cut this out. We're recording this on the day of the MacGala. - No, keep it in, keep it in. We are recording this, this, we are recording this on the day of the MacGala. - You would rather have one day a year in a city where it's like, it's just, it all fucking comes out in one big, like, ugly, moment of like, the pageantry and like, the status and the appearance of it all. - Yes. - And get it out of the way. - And then, and then you're good. - Because after tonight, it's like, all right, let's keep it moving. - A word season's over, MacGala season's over. Like, we'll MacGala weekends over, and now we can just have fun. I can't wait for you to experience that. - I'm not that you already have. - No, I haven't. - Really? - I don't think so. Well, I, no, I, yeah, I haven't been having much fun. (laughing) I'm excited because I have stuff coming up that I'm excited to have fun and I'm going to friends, I'm going to Vegas, all with my friends. - France, Vegas, then Dusseldorf. - It's Vegas, France, New York, Paris, which I've never been to. - Paris, France. - I've never been to Paris. - Love. - And I'm so excited. - Oh my God, it's the best. - And then France again. - Oh my God. - And then. - Paris again, or different part of France? - South. - Can? - Central Pay. - Central, oh, fun. - And then London for a wedding. - Cute, Jake, that's such a great summer. - I know. - I'm so thrilled for you. - And yeah, I'm really excited. I just want to like, oh, go out and about. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's like the fan, well, let's keep it to New York. What's the fantasy New York summer day? Like what are you doing? - Oh, okay. I wake up. I work out. - Yeah. - 'Cause I just like feel good. Maybe like, I just mentally just feel good. Like so I can feel confident throughout the rest of my day. - Yep. - And then maybe like 3 p.m., it's still hot out. And we go to like, time square and start drinking. - Yep. - See where the night takes us. - And that's, oh, see, this is perfectly loose. - Yeah. - Unstructured. - Like, that's, I mean, I had a night like that the other night. And it took me out of commission for, I mean. - Can I say it? - A week. - A real week. Like I looked at Louise and I said like, it's, this is bad. (laughing) - Louise, wait, you ride for Louise. - And you're like. - Can I say, can I say on the way, like I was just with man. I was like, oh my god, I'm so excited to see Jake. And I said, god, I hope Louise is there. Because Louise, it's not that you're an incredible person but I also am just obsessed with the name. (laughing) - We don't get Louise's anymore. - We don't. - And it's just French. - The way you used to eat it, you know, in my adult life, I love it. - Oh, it's a fabulous name. Oh, it's just a wonderful name. No, I ride a hard for Louise. - Yeah, you and Matt, you were Matt, we're like the first to ride hard for Louise. - Really? - Yes. - I feel like, I feel like Louise is, I feel like you're such a figure in the pushovers. - Oh, here she goes in the seat. (laughing) - That she wanted all along. - This is so much more comfortable over there. - Of course, you're not gonna be on that. - Yeah, Louise is a figure in my life. - Louise is a figure. - Wait, can I ask, was that, 'cause you were in Cannes with us, right? Last year? - Oh wait, she's always in Cannes with me. - So Matt describes your meeting in the gym as you like doing the machine incorrectly for two seconds and then leaving? - Yes. - Was, because of things? - Oh, was this you like, was that, was that like the beginning of your gym obsession, your new gym obsession? - No, it was the start. It was like the, yeah, I guess it was the start of me like trying to work out, but now, if I went to the gym alone, I could do workouts. - You know what you're doing? - I know what I'm doing. - That's amazing. - See, and I always, I'm like, - And I was looking, sorry. - No, no, no, go. - I was like looking at Matt and I was like, oh my God, he's doing pull ups, I was like, what the fuck is going on here? - It's just, but I can do that now. - That's amazing, 'cause it's just about like, it's, the gym is like a hot stove to people and they don't wanna touch it, they don't wanna go too close to it, but all you have to do is put on oven mitts, all you have to do is make it somewhat safe for yourself and then it'll start to fall into place. - Well, my trainer calls it the iceberg effect. - Oh yeah? - So it's like once, and I actually don't know why he calls it that, 'cause I don't know-- - If you start at the tip and then you get to the bottom, which is much more in depth. - Oh. (laughing) - Oh, I still don't get it. - Okay, so you know how like an iceberg, only a small part of the iceberg is above water? - Yeah. - It's, you just look at the Google picture of an iceberg. - Right. - And you'll see. - And this much, and then the rest of it is like this much. - Okay, okay. - And so you're hitting the tip of the iceberg, are you following me? - Yes, yes, I hit the tip. - Hit the tip. - And then beneath the surface, there's so much more. - You know what, we do need to talk about quickly, not just for promo purposes, but because it was the best night of Louise and I's life. And I don't say that lightly. I do not enjoy the best. - Thank you. - I do not enjoy going anywhere. - Oh my God. - The culture words? - Oh my God, Jake. - Word the best night of my life. - Stop. - And by the way, that is hard to do at a taping. It was a taping. So like you know what I mean, like you have to, sometimes things have to like reset, throughout the entire night, passed out in my life. - Oh my God, Jake. - Best night of my life, Louise and I were tears in our eyes. - I felt like I had to really redeem myself because I felt like I came onto your radio city show and I fucking, bombed and killed the vibe in that room, so hard. - You felt that way! - I was like, people were so excited that you guys were the guests. - I was like, oh, look at me and my cortisol face and then this silence, 5,000 people, dead silence. - That is not true. - That is not true, you guys were the perfect guest and I had so much fun. But the culture awards were, like. - Thank you for doing them, by the way. Wait, if you're in LA, end of May. - I'm not. - It's totally fine because we heard from the talent people that were like, Jake she wants to come back. We're like, yes, thank God. And then for some reason it fell off and it was like, no problem. - Brad, my dear, my best friend, Brad, is doing a big run club in New York. - That's a huge ask to get your friends to run. - But she's doing for me. She's coming to Las Vegas for sweets and snacks. - Wait, what's sweets and snacks? - Yes, sweets and snacks to exposition or expo. - It's not short for exposition. - It's a big candy convention and she's coming. I'm Brad, just not like to travel once she doesn't need to. - So I really, really appreciate her coming. - That's also so well balanced here 'cause she's having you do something healthy and then you. - And I do like to run. - I'm so jealous. - Well, I like to run because after you feel like you are everything. - Of course. - But I only run in group settings. I can't run alone or else I'll stop. Like I have to run and someone has to be like, keep going. - That's great. - Keep going. - And are you like that group fitness classes? - No, I used to be. I used to only do group fitness classes, but now I have a trainer that is like, keep going. - Love, keep going. - I know, I used to be really, I got used to it. There was a time when I soul-cycled like every other white girl in PR. - Yeah. - And what year did you start soul-cycling? 2015, 2016? - I started at 2013. I was 13 years old. - I was 13 years old. - I was really clear. - I have a photo of me with braces on and they gave me a cupcake. They would give you a cupcake from-- - Yeah, of course. - Let me see it. Is it closed now? If it's closed now, that's it. - Okay, it's problems. - So you were 13 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Were you ever at Burisma Annie? - Yes, I was. - Wow. - Oh my God. - God, just, can I say something? - Mm-hmm. - I miss that time. - Dude, not that like milk bar and soul cycle of like gone. - New fork city? - What's that? - Come on. - New fork city, you know. - You know. - Michele knows, Michele knows everything. - It was this Instagram account and all I would do all day was like overheard LA for food in New York and you would DM them photos of food and just pray to God that they would post it. - Oh my God. - Yes, yeah, and they put me onto a million places. Do you remember Spice Market? - Of course I remember Spice Market. - Why did it close? - Why did it close? - It was a mix of two stories. - So many places, just, but I'm just saying like, we all look back and like how, how, how blame we were back then. But I'm like, I had fun. - No, the cringe was everything. The soul cycle. - Oh. - Come on, like blowing out the candle felt so nice. - So nice. Oh my God! - Oh my God. - Blowing out the fucking eucalyptus candle. - Come on. - And it smells so good. - Lemon, verbena, whatever it is. - Oh my God, it was just nice and. - Did you ever live on the Upper West Side? - No, but I kind of low key, I'm like, I would like it. It's so, I don't know, it just feels so cinematic. - It is. It's very vampire weekend. It's very, it's very vampire weekend. Did you ever go to Sugar and Plum? - No. - So Sugar and Plum was a. Oh my God, I'm trying, I need to figure out a way to describe it. It was a restaurant. - Okay. - And as a part of the restaurant, there was a candy corner where you could like put candy in a bag and get candy. But they had like these like Belgian waffles with like ice cream and like chicken tenders in front. It was like Delilah for kids. - Delilah for kids. - And instead of alcohol, they had candy. - Which is just, which, which all ages love. - Right. Tell me more about sweets and, what is it? - Sweets and snacks. - Sweets and snacks? - Yes. So, you've been before. - No, never. This is my first time because I am now CCO of Cuchus. - Oh my God, I'm just, this is my dream. If there are any sweets and snacks companies out there. - We should do Bowen Cuchus collab. (laughing) I'm not serious. - Little glasses? - Yes, little glasses. Yes, we can make them, you can make Cuchus. It's like the thing about Cuchus that I love so much is they're down for whatever. They have glasses gummies. - That's really, really funny. - Another one of their companies, but yes. - Okay. - Do you sit on any boards? - No. Oh, I have one foundation, but that's. - What foundation? - It's called the Necessary Foundation and it helps queer filmmakers get their products made. But I just started like a few months ago. - Oh, well, you just started it. - Meaningful things will begin to happen. - Yes, but no, but Adam Goldman, this is the wonderful man who started it is like setting me the loveliest, gentlest text being like, hey, like, let me know if you like go through your contacts at some point and I'm like totally very, very angry. - Well, I would love to help out with anything. - Oh my God, please. - Yes, please. - Speaking of gay stuff, when is pride? - The month of June. - No, I know it's in June, but what weekend? - And I actually feel like it's, I mean, it's not, it's both weird and fine that it's like not as corporate anymore. - It used to be like every fucking bank in the world had something and now it's like everyone, now that everyone's home with up again, they're like just, yeah, it's, it has some of my, I've had some of my best memories in some of my like, most had to pee memories in New York City. - Had to pee in memory. - Most had to pee, man. It's just, it's just you're standing there, but it's like, you just have to pee, but it doesn't matter 'cause you're just like enjoying it. - What's the worst you've ever had to pee? - 'Cause I know mine. - I don't think about having to pee as much. A Coachella, I feel like I always have to pass. This past Coachella, I feel like I had to walk across the entire grounds to pee and, oh my God, the only time I've been like, no, to pictures is standing at like 11 p.m. in the smelliest tent at Coachella with the porta-potties, like someone on Molly is like, can we take a picture? And I'm like, not here, I'm so sorry. - Yeah, that's your boundaries. - You just can't do it next to shit and piss. - Yeah, you can. - But Coachella was recently, I think, I have so many memories of about almost shooting my pants and the times that I've shot my pants. So clear at my mouth. - I've shot my pants. The last time I shot my pants was more recent than I would like to. - That's okay, but you know what the worst part of shooting your pants? It's like, if you have to like, travel after the moment and you gotta like, what? - You gotta like, keep it, keep it, keep it in the groin so it doesn't fall for the down-of-fucking-panel leg. - Oh, okay. - Oh, I understand my really shit by pants that wasn't college my freshman year. - That's not that, that's not that reason. - No, no, but I thought you were talking about like, shard aim. - Oh, I see, no, we shard all the time. No, everyone shards. - Everyone shards. - It's like, it's just not how it just happened. - It's just happening. - People just don't talk about it. - I'm so, I have no qualms about talking about it. - Mm-hmm. - A shard always. - Always a shard. - It's always wet. - Never, you don't have a dry shard. - Well, how could you? - Wouldn't it be crazy if you sharded and it was still full? - Like, piece of shit. - Full cylinder, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Piece of shit. But the time I had to pee at the harness, was I was en route to golf ball and we were stuck in traffic. And I, you know, when you have to pee so bad, like you actually think like you are going to die. Like you think like your bladder is going to explode like you're going to actually physically die. - It's just awful. - It's really awful. - Because, and I think that's, that's good. That's like the human brain that's evolution, like treating that as like a life threatening situation, which it kind of is. - Mm-hmm. 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Also, it is officially wedding season whether you like it or not, you're getting gifts, you're getting rides, you're getting dresses, suits, whatever you wear to a wedding, the easiest way to use your Venmo balance if you have any is on the Venmo debit card because it doesn't require the extra step of transferring it, the money is already there. You can also add your Venmo debit card to your digital wallet which for me is very useful because I love to tap to pay, I hate bringing my wallet places, I love just to bring my phone so tapping to pay at a restaurant or at a clothing store or at a bar is just makes my life a little more colorful. The Venmo master card is issued by the bank court bank NA, Venmo stash bundle terms and exclusions apply, max $100 cashback per month, see terms at Venmo.me/stashterms, Venmo check out not available at all merchants. Thank you again Venmo for sponsoring tonight's episode. Wait, wait, you should be a gamer again, I know, well I just got an Nintendo Switch 2, 2 and I, I trick, you know who is the biggest Nintendo Switch legend of Zelda fan you, you actually won't believe it. I, wait, I think I know this, I was a Zelda fan, yeah, Rihanna, who? Kylie Jenner. Are you kidding me? No, swear to God, swear to God. She put me onto it, we have a, we have a thing in common now. Yes, okay, but I tried to play the legend of Zelda. Which one? Breath of the Wild? Breath of the Wild. Interesting. It is very, so I'm a Pokemon guy. Of course. Like I like the structure of Pokemon games. Yeah. You have the gyms, and then you have the Elite 8, and then you've like kind of free play until you catch all the rare Pokemon, like that's like my vibe. I love that. And you're, so you're, you're a JRPG person, Japanese role-playing game. Oh yes. Okay great. Zelda, I was very, it was very difficult for me to like get past like even the, I was like, what's my goal here? That's the beauty of the game, it's open, it's the most perfected open world game made. I can't do it. I have to have. I understand. I understand. I have. I want structure. I think I'm going to actually get, if there is a new Pokemon game on Nintendo Switch 2, I am going to get it, and I'm going to play it. It's called Wind and Waves. Is it good? It hasn't come out, yeah. And then there's a really exciting, there's, there's, it'll come in around Christmas, but I feel like there's Sword and Shield and there was, I've got X and Y. Is it good? No, I'm not X and Y, sorry. They're fine. You, I think you should play, you should play Pokemon Legend ZA. Is that on Nintendo Switch? That's on Nintendo Switch and Switch 2. It takes place in Lumio City, which is Paris, basically. Very French, very, very, very, very, you're a vibe right now. And it's real time. It's an action game, but you basically still do the moves, but there's just cool downs. You don't take turns. It's more like action based and it's faster. Oh my god, I'm so sad you're not coming to the culture awards. Well, I mean, Louise doesn't have to, I come here after, okay, great. Louise, can Louise, pre culture awards, you can go to the culture awards without me. Are you kidding me, Louise? You're coming. We go, Louise, go. Louise, I, I really can't, like, express to you enough, like, you need to come. Jake and I, I know I've told you this many times, the whole time we're grabbing each other's hands, like, rocking back and forth. Like, this is the best night of my life. Kristen Wig doing the, what did she do again? She was, she played Robin, not the, not Robin from Batman around, but Robin with the why, the woman who is the birth or assistant. That? Whatever, when Max Dalter made everyone look for her phone, which by the way did not make the final call. I know we had to cut it. It was. You had. The funniest thing. I think Max Dalter is the funniest person. The funniest person alive. Alive. I think she is the funniest person alive. No one does it like her. I went to her DJ set last night. Oh my god, her album. It's amazing. It's actually unbelievable. No one feels bad for me. And she sat there at the DJ stand brushing her hair the entire time. And then she lost her phone and took 10 minutes out of the DJ set to just scream at everybody to look for her phone. And then the slow song came on and everyone was dancing behind her on the DJ booth and she made them sit down. Why? Because she got to find her phone still? No, she just sat down. And they sat down. And then did you see the video of her going to the kids and she goes, that was rude. The kid didn't say. Yes, yes. I saw that. I watched her Colbert, her late show interview constantly. My thing with Max Dalter is I don't, I actually don't, because some people are like I don't get it. How can you not? It's so apparent. How can you not get it? It is the funniest thing on the planet. I think it's just people who like get uncomfortable. But that's the point. But they, they can't laugh about the discomfort. They can't laugh through it. They, they only, they stop at discomfort. They're like, this is bad. I don't like this. No, but it's, I literally like, I, I, I think like, I, I do not unders. I like can't like, no one can explain to me. It'd be, if anyone ever said to me, I don't get it. I would literally like be like, what about this? Do you not understand? Like it is, she is just hysterical. Yes. Yes. It's like a fundamental, like it's a cultural, fundamental, like, it's a fundamentally cultural. I can't, I don't even know what I'm saying. No, I don't even know what I'm saying. I just, she, she is just going to hit a nerve with people and it's the same nerve that makes you go, ha, ha, or the same nerve that makes you go, I don't get it, I don't like this. Which like, I think, I don't, I don't want to be around those people. We don't have to explain this too much to our people because there are people. Yeah. I think you're running into more people who like don't have the same sensibility as you. Right. I think now that I'm like in my mid 30s, I'm like, I don't really. Right. I can't really. I don't, I, my circle's gotten smaller, which is just a factor of age, no matter what, no matter who you are, I think, and I think I'm like, oh, I'm like, I don't have to like spend too much energy like bringing someone up to speed. Mm-hmm. Does that make sense? That makes sense. That makes sense. I mean, I just, I just made this so boring. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. No, you didn't. What are you listening to right now? Holly, Holly Humberstown? I don't know. Oh, and I've been a Holly fan down to sing COVID. Yes. I love her. I, I just got, have you ever heard the song Scarlet by her? No. It's unbelievable. It's one of the, it's one of the, her older ones. It's one of her older ones. Yeah, it's amazing. Um, I'm listening to OPN. OPN. He's the guy who scores like the Safty Brothers movies, but he does a lot of like noise stuff. Okay. I missed his show, but like I've been like into this kind of like, I don't know, like tense atmosphere stuff. It's so gross that I, I'm talking about it in this way. No. Um, wait, wait. And then there's one more. Hold on. The new, you always got album is really good. But remember, remember her song from Smile 2? Blood on my satin? Yeah, yeah. Yes. First of all, Smile 2. Fan. It's awesome. Didn't see MLs in the first. Okay. You haven't seen the first. I've seen the first. I haven't seen the second. What are you doing differently at this year's culture? Are you filming at the same place? Is it bigger? It's a smaller place, actually, but I think that's okay. Um, and we're doing, we're trying not to repeat too much of last. Like our paths in the wood were, um, you can basically beat for beat, do the same show as last year. And it'll be totally fine. Mm-hmm. Like you can do another memoriam parity. You can do another, like, whatever. You can do another, like, um, this, that and the other. But I think the risk here move, and actually I, but I think the more fun thrilling move is just to, like, kind of start from scratch. Like we, I think, like, I'm already kind of guy that, like, the people we've got lined up. And it's not even just people. You're, like, ruining Louise's day right now. By the way, Louise, like, there's no one in this world, Louise loves more than Addison Rye. My favorite set of Coachella by far. I didn't see it. It was incredible, and then literally, and I was, I thought I was, like, being like a fan. The person next to me, strained her taps me on the shoulder at the end, he goes, that was so fun watching you watch her. Oh. And I was like, oh, I then, yeah, that's, um, I felt that way about watching you in Bowen Watch, um, Cardi P in Can La Summer. What's Cardi P? Cardi B. What, when did that happen? Oh. You and Matt were having the time of your life. Cause she came on after, oh, she was at Spotify. Yeah. Oh my God. I, I'm still traumatized from Can. Wait, why? That was so much drinking and partying and having to just sit on a panel, quote, quote, quote, well, no, there were panels, but like having to sit on panels and then having to, like, stay up until, like, three in the morning because, like, you kind of felt like you had to based on, like, what was going on there? Like, it was just the, it was just chaotic and was like, people trying to get in parties and it was just like, I think the South of France, Santa Pay, I don't know about, but I feel like can and like, niece or like, it's, it's just Miami. It's like, it's like just, it's that kind of, like, so I feel as though I am an expert in the South of France because I've never been to Paris. I've only been to the South of France. It's not, it's not even like a bougie way, it's just like, I've been there for work or then I went there for a wedding and then it's something that bougie. It's very like, it feels, I don't know how to describe it's not like there's one night club. Yeah. Bayoli. Bayoli. And you either have the best night of your life there, or nobody is there. That is like one time Louise and I went there. It was a carnival. They were like, it was the -- Wow. There was a ferrets wheel. It was like the -- I think that was the best thing about it. There were some cigarettes inside like whatever, like just having the best of my life. Oh, God. That's what the culture was remissing. We needed like drugs in the carnival. This reminds me, are you watching Rhode Island? Yes. Alicia. Alicia. She -- what are these like bagel bites that she heard the pizza bites that's literally just bread? Pizza chips. I did not -- I didn't know about -- I hear pizza chips and it's like, okay, so it's like a little potato chip with like, it's just bread. It's just bread with tomato sauce. I do not fuck with the one and I'm sorry. Rula. Rosie. No. Rula. Okay, here's the thing about Rula is she brings discourse. Like people don't like -- No, no, she's a great character. Yeah, she's a great character. I don't fuck with -- is it actually the one who was on the bachelor? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I think, but I think she and her husband like moved there for the show if I'm not mistaken. Okay, let's fight. Like, let's fight, please. Oh my God. I struggle with reality television in general. The only reality TV I can do is housewives. It's the only TV I can do. I'm kind of the same. Like, what's that about? I'm used to old reality television. Like, I watched Bad Girls Club. Were you ever a Bad Girls Club fan? I never wasn't. I'm trying it. Someone's trying to put me on it. But what's the new show? Baddies. It goes deep. Wow. And it's like crazy. Like, I know everything about baddies. Everything, everything, everything. But so basically the best season of baddies. There's two. Baddies South, which was season two, and baddies -- I think it was baddies West. Okay. And that's when Stana Girl was on. Uh-huh. Who's Stana Girl? She's Stana Girl. Stana Girl was so good because there was a real narrative. And they were really trying to -- they really traveled the south and, you know, and there was a real narrative going on there. And now it's every episode is -- Natalie calls a house meeting before everyone goes out and goes, and it's just like, you have to fight. Whereas on Bad Girls Club, if you hit somebody, you got kicked out of the house. Right. And it was like this tension brewing, and brewing, and brewing, and brewing, and brewing. And then there would be this one massive fight, like in Bad Girls Club, New Orleans. Judy and Priscilla, Priscilla beat Judy Bloody. Like, and -- and because, well, Judy goes, Priscilla, I made you breakfast in bed and dump cereal all over Priscilla's bed, and Priscilla just like beats the fucking living shit out of Judy. And like -- This is original Bad Girls Club? Yeah. A rigid note. Nothing touches original Bad Girls Club. Then, and, oh, my God, Bad Girls Club Miami. Uh-huh. Oh, my God. Bad Girls Club Cabo. Cabo. I've seen every single season of Bad Girls Club. So it's just Housewives and Bad Girls Club for you. And America's Next Outmodel. But there hasn't been any cycle of that. So that's what I'm saying. I only do old. I only do old things. And you're -- and you will be watching whatever the new tie recreation is. So Matt and I recapped the most recent cycle, which is like 2018. And I was just like, "What's this all for?" And it was also like my first -- it was one of the first times Law Road was on TV, and like, I went through the cycle with Law Road, so I was like, "I'm not under -- I'm not sure what this man is about, and now I'm obsessed with him." Oh, yeah. What did he say? Recently that I just died for -- oh, bring back gatekeeping. Totally. He was like, "Not everyone's meant to have what you have." I literally was like, "Oh." I think gatekeeping -- I think gatekeeping has always remained. I -- yeah. I think -- and I think for whatever reason people -- people are still gatekeeping, and sure, why not? Right. I have no take on this, beyond. Yeah. It's not gone. The reason I loved OG America's Next Outmodel is because I was a child. Yes. And I genuinely believed that when these women won the show, they would go on to become a top model. Totally. I think American Idol implanted this in my brain where I was like, "Whoever wins this is going to be." Kali Clarkson. The biggest. Kari Underwood. Exactly. It just never happened. Well, it was Ruben Stuttered, Fantasia Burrino, and then Taylor Hicks, Clayaken, Adam Lambert. No, but there was someone else too. I think we said David Archuleta, Dave -- Jennifer Hudson. Jennifer Hudson. That's one thing, you know. She made it. I mean, she's Jennifer Hudson. She's got an Oscar a few years later. Yeah. American Idol, I would say, is the only show to successfully create stars. Create stars. Well, I think -- Besides the X-Factor, Under Action, Fifth Army. Of course, of course. But for -- yeah, for shows like that, for X-Factor and American Idol, to run parallel to top model, kind of like -- it seemed to be this like global belief that like whoever wins these shows will go on to great success. You know who actually is on America's next top model, and left, and is like now one of the top models, when he hardly -- When he hardly. As you guys know, then when I've been working together this season on Therapus and so tonight or today, whenever you guys are watching this, we are going to be bringing you some more financial leaning, tell me what's wrongs, given that Venmo is a financial app. I love the Venmo debit card, so my advice will probably be leaning a lot towards using that, because I think it is like, for me, the easiest way to spend my Venmo balance. My friend is having a really small intimate wedding just family and a few close friends. Our friend group is nine people, and only three are invited to the wedding. I didn't think much of this until all nine of us got invited to her Bachelor at Trip, and it's going to cost at least $1,500. Am I being crazy for thinking that's kind of selfish? We're apparently close enough to drop a ton of money on her Bachelor app, and not close enough to be there for her actual wedding help. If you maybe flip it, maybe she can't afford to have both a big wedding and a big Bachelor at it. But obviously, if you can't spend the money, then you just have to tell her I can't spend this money, and if she's a real friend, she'll understand. It's also unfair that only three people are invited. I think that's where it gets tricky for me. I would just like, analyze the situation, like, is this because of a money reason, like can she not afford both, or is this just out of pure like this is what she wants? Because if that's the case, then you can also be like, well, then I'm not spending this if I'm not invited to the actual event, but then at that point, you actually want to even be invited anymore. I pay for everything for me and my boyfriend, and I make way more than him, so it's kind of fair, but at the same time, it would be nice if he chipped in once in a while. Do I just start cold Venmo requesting him for stuff, or does this need to be a serious discussion? I've actually thought about this a lot. I think the cold Venmo request will catch him off guard, maybe be like, hey, can you, do mind if I, can I Venmo request you for this? Like, I'm gonna Venmo request you for this meal, base your decisions on his reactions thereafter. I can't cook for the life of me, so I eat out almost every meal, and it's costing me. Do you have any suggestions for how to motivate myself to cook, or even like hacks for cheap meals anywhere? I cannot keep up with this habit. If you really hate cooking that much, collab with your friends. Go to each other's houses. Make meals together. It's like make it in activity to do with other people so that it's not just you and it doesn't feel like a chore. And it's way more expensive to cook for what, and than it is to cook for a group of people. But if you still do not want to cook, you can use Venmo stash rewards to earn cashback on places you're already spending money, and when you use your Venmo balance at these places, like you will earn cashback, so you can pick like a bundle of your favorite brands and earn cashback on that. Also, I feel like the solace of spending with a Venmo balance is like, you know exactly how much you have, and it's coming out of that one account of yours. The Venmo account, it's not coming out of like your savings or something, is like a good way to think about it. The Venmo master card is issued by the bank court bank NA, Venmo stash bundle terms and exclusions apply max $100 cashback per month. See terms at Venmo.me/stashterms Venmo check out not available at all merchants. Thank you again Venmo for sponsoring tonight's episode, and the special edition of Tell Me What throngs. What are you therapist about tonight? What I'm therapist about today is honestly, this is going to sound so boring, but it's my back pain. I knew you were going to set your back pain, but it's just, and I was going to come in here and be like, this is what you have to look forward to, but the fact that you're experiencing it at 26? Well, are you on a muscle not tick talk? It's, I just like licked my lips. It is like the best thing on planet earth, you, they, they have these gloves on and they like, it's a back, obviously, and they put their finger on and you see the knot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay, and they go, and it just, and like scientifically actually, they're not getting the knot out and like, which really happening is they're pushing, pushing the muscle to the end and it snaps back in place. But if you just tell yourself that, it's like when you, it's like when you get an air bubble out of a screen for it. - That's what it looks like. - Okay. It's awesome, also dry needling. - Dry needling for sure. - And then muscle twitches. - I'm therapist about my back pain. - Yep. - What can we talk about? - How much I love you? - Oh my god. - Oh, and we can talk about the tell me what's wrongs. - I will never forget the tell me what's wrongs from Radio City. - Whoa, what were they? - Which was like, like, my class then, what do I do? - No, no, no, one of them was, my roommate fucked my day, and then-- - Oh, and she said, "Tee!" - Yeah! - And how could you be mad, Tee? - That's insane. - It's everything, it's camp. I'm doing a program in Copenhagen this summer and I have a weekend break where I can travel. One of my best friends is really close with my ex-boyfriend who is Norwegian. We have been broken up for two years. They face time to each other when I was in the room and on a whim, I told my ex I would be in Norway for a weekend. He saw a lot of exposition, a lot of exposition. - I haven't planned this trip, okay, go. - I don't know, I think this is how-- No, I am doing this process. - Oh, she is. - He told me I should come and stay with him. It's taken me a long time to get over him. I haven't dated anyone since, and both of us are single, do I go to Norway? Oh my God, I would. - I would just, if it's just for the weekend, sure. It's gonna be, it's already time-bound, it's low stakes. - Listen, it hits the damn season by Taylor Swift and just fucking do it. - Oh my God, but that's about a hometown. - But it's about, like, seeing an ex-- - Sure. - Back together with him just for the weekend. You can call me Bay for the weekend. Talk about the best song ever, by the way. - Talk about, talk about. - Talk about the eras tour. Oh my God, I saw it. - Take, talk the other day of, like, being, like. - Oh my God. - I prescribe to the damn season. My boss absolutely reeks. Like, he seriously smells like bad sushi. - Quit. - Which, okay. His office, his office is right next to mine, so I'm forced to put up with his stench all day and it makes me wanna vomit. I pull my shirt up over my nose to avoid it most of the time. Other people have walked past and said, "Oh my God, what does that awful smell?" And nobody realizes it is him, including him. I don't wanna tell him because fired, what do I do? HR. - That is exactly what HR is meant to help with. - Yeah, you have to. Oh my God, I can't deal with smells. If I assign a smell to a person, you're done. - You're done. - You're done. You're done, you're done, you're done. I can't do it. Oh my God. I can't, I can't. - Is it, God, is it the kind of office where you can burn a candle? Like a five-wick candle? This person has an office next to the box. - Oh my God, it makes me feel sick. If I could smell that every day. (screams) I hate smells. I hate smells. I'm like a pregnant woman. I hate smells. - And even perfumes and colognes are too strong. - No, but I hate the smell of Sephora. - God it. - Sephora, you walk in and it's just like, that's like the smell of Sephora to me. It's just like a cough of perfume. - Of course. - Like Louise and I went to Sephora tonight to kill time. And I was so upset about it. Louise walked in and said, "Do you need anything?" And I said, "No." And she said, "Do you?" And she said, "No." And we walked out and then sat. You know Louise, okay, you know the thing about Louise is Louise can read anywhere. - Oh, I'm so jealous. - Like Louise could sit right now and start reading as we're talking and continue reading. - What are you reading right now? - Why don't you pick up the mic? (laughing) - I just started the lover and I just finished last night Madonna for a coat. - Okay, great. These are books that I feel like I should know when I don't. - Oh, yeah, you should read. - Okay. (laughing) - I love it. Yes, I should. - You would really enjoy it. - I'm reading, I'm reading bullshit. - What are you reading? - Oh no, I'm actually reading a really good novel. The "Late of Heaven" by Ursula K. Luguin. - This is now becoming too intense for me, I can't. - You can't read "Famesec." - Yes, oh my god, in one day. - Oh my god, all amazing. - It's an intense book. - I know. - Yeah. - But it's an amazing, incredible, she's, she's fucking amazing. - It is so funny that the "Crox of Girls" is her saying she's the voice of her generation in a joking manner. - Yes. - Because she is. Do you know what I mean? - But she's still even in the book, she's like, yeah, and you read it. It's like, even, she's like, that was a joke. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - She is, there's no one else that speaks like, - Uh-huh. - And for you to be like, so in it and make a show about it, like, immediately. - Yeah. - And for you to be able to like, pull up and see it for what it is, like, that's impossible. - You know what I thought was awesome when she was like, I was working. And like, it was her, the "Safety Brothers" in "Gretagore" way. - I know. - Just all working together in like this place. Like, how awesome, and they all-- - They all blew up. - Or now, them. - I know. It's so cool. - Jordan! (laughing) - My ex is my step-brother now. - What? - Yeah, a period. We were together for two years and things got nasty towards the end. While we were together, I guess my mom and his dad, both Divorcees. Divorcees? - Whatever you want. - Fall in love and fail to share any of this information with us. I fear I'm in a cursed timeline and I have to see him all the time now. Help me and set some healthy boundaries. Oh, help me set some healthy boundaries. - Well, I feel like the boundaries is, was the break, oh my God, that's so hard. And actually, Paul run in Clueless, they started his step-siblings and then they got together. - Right, same with Copa Mia. - What's Copa Mia? - You gotta see Copa Mia. - Okay. - So in Copa Mia, basically Nicole Wallace's mom is getting married to this very wealthy guy and Nicole Wallace falls in love with the son. - Oh. - My advice is that you should be so, you should be like, my life is crazy. And just tell people, like, my life is crazy. You guys have no idea, my life is crazy. - Embrace it. - Embrace the crazy. - She's already halfway there. - Like, embrace the crazy. Be like, my life is so not normal. Like, to the point where like, start making light of it and making jokes about it. - Make art about it. - Make art about it. Make art about it. - Truly. - Make art. - I work as a manager at a hotel. Since I live really close to work, UPS will sometimes deliver my personal packages there. The other day, I was in the housekeeping storage room and found a box address to me that was opened. It was a vibrator, I ordered. I don't know who the culprit is. Should I say something? Can you check the cameras? - Yes. - Well, I guess she can't in the closet. - Oh, sure. - Do she say something? I think we're at the point now in the culture. Where it's like, yeah, we all stick things in ourselves. - No, but that's not her problem. Her problem is somebody fucking opened it. - I know which is illegal. - Right. So she, I now she wants to get revenge. Or just find out who it was and be like, why'd you steal my shirt? Or take or open my shirt. Maybe they were just curious. As long as they didn't steal your belongings, just my advice would be to stop having your shit sent to the hotel. - Oh, interesting. Although God, one of the things about going into a place of work and having a solid shipping situation is that is so important. - Really? - I remember the days when I get shit sent to work. - Where'd you work? - I don't know if it's called one king's lane, not far from here. - And what'd you do? - It was one of their marketing graphic designers. - You do graphic design? - I used to. - And now I couldn't tell you anything about it. - It's all out. It's all gone for my brain. - I just started getting close with my coworkers recently. And on a night out, I made the mistake of telling them I began taking Lexa Pro since the job. I don't think that's bad. Not a big deal apparently to these guys. Oh, not a big deal, but apparently to these guys, I'm a drug addict now. - Oh. - They're not even throwing shade, just like cracking jokes to everyone in the office about it. And it's super uncomfortable. What do I say to them because they are fun? Just this is a little lack. I think they're like actually like, and I mean this like full heartedly. Like very stupid. - I was gonna say like you don't wanna get close to these people. - What? - Don't be friends with them. Ew, that sucks. - It's, what do you mean you're a drug dealer for taking Lexa Pro? - I take Lexa Pro, I guess I'm a fucking addict. - I take Lou Vox. Lou Vox, by the way, has changed my life. And I'll tell you why. When I am taking Lou Vox and not smoking weed, which is not often, but it was the other day. I am like, good morning, like the morning Louise. How are you, Manny? Like what's up? Like how are you like today is beautiful? Like let's have a day. When I'm taking Lou Vox and smoking weed, I'm back to Jake. - Totally, I, weed's been the, the thing that's like helped me get my mind off this back pain. - Weed's the best thing on planet earth. - And I am smoking immediately after this. - And I'm like, is this developed? 'Cause you know lady Gaga got addicted to it. - To weed? - Chromatic, like during her when she was like, I don't want people to get it twisted. Like you can get addicted to marijuana. - I am addicted to weed. - And so, and I think I am too. - I am, it's very, I think we are the guinea pigs for weed addiction. Because it's sold now, like legally. - Right, right, right. - So it's so much more accessible. - And so we're, and so we're like the, but like that, I don't, like smoking a joint for me is like I'm not a big drinker. - Me neither. It's the perfect way for me to wind down. - Oh my God, just like smoking a joint. Like it's like burns my throat a bit. Like I feel like lighter. Like I like, it's like a glass of wine for me. - Absolutely. - And I don't feel hungover in the morning. And I just feel anxious. And like maybe I want to kill myself. - Just on par with the hangover. - Mm-hmm. Jake, I saw a message. Just on my boyfriends, wait, did we give her advice? Oh yes, stop sending packages to your place of work. - Oh no, this is the one with Deluxe Pro. - Oh yeah, those are not your friends. - Those are not your friends. Why would you want to be friends with people that fucking stupid? - Period. - Literally, like, what? Like, it's not even a funny joke. - No. - It's not even, it's not even not funny 'cause it's like you're making fundamental illness. It's just not funny period. - Exactly. - That's not funny. - That's not funny. All my friends are on meds. Every single one of my friends, are you on meds? - I used to be on Deluxe Pro. - You're not anymore? You're healed. You're healed Whitney. - Held. (laughing) - You're healing journey. - You don't get that to you. She's messing out. (laughing) - Jake, I saw messages on my boyfriend's phone between him and chat GBT. He was talking about how I have the vibrator. My boyfriend told chat GBT that our sexual relationship isn't what it used to be. - He's telling chat GBT that. - That's true. - Because I have a vibrator. Oh, ew. These people sound horrible. - I know. - He doesn't know that I saw these messages. Those messages. Should I ignore it? What should I do? No. You can be like, I saw your fucking chat GBT messages. You freak. - That feels so deeply, that's like a deeper level of shame than like looking through emails. Like talking to chat GBT to some guys is probably like, intimate, beyond intimate. - Well, your boyfriend also is maybe gay and hates woman. Like, why is he mad that you have a vibrator? Why is that? - Absolutely. I know. That's not wrong. Like, right? - Let women have vibrators. - That's weird. Like, why don't you want her to experience pleasure? That's strange. - You can't be, it's this thing where like, it's such an American thing to be like, I have to be the partner to fulfill every need. - Yeah, and France, it's like, oh no, you have your fuck buddy and you have your intellectual boyfriend and your whatever boyfriend. - What? - It's like the French thing, it's like, no, your partner isn't gonna be able to carry all of your expectations for it. They're not gonna be able to fulfill every need. - Right. Yeah, your boyfriend hates woman and he does not want you to experience joy. And you should break up with him. - That's it. I just, oh my God, more. I just found out my boyfriend cheated from three different girls. We've been together for five years and he recently tested positive for an STD. - Cut it out. - Only a few days pass and one by one, I get messages from these girls saying he called them to go get checked. I'm sorry, it's not funny. As if the STD wasn't bad enough for me, I just found out he's been cheating for years. How should I kill him? Watch John Tucker must die. And you collab with the girls. - You collab with the girls. Oh yes, you're so right. You're making all these pop culture connections. I'm so. - Are you proud? - I'm so, well I never expected anything less. - Thank you. - I have some weird issue where I pretend to be asleep if anyone comes into my room. No matter what time of the day or night, if someone comes in, I'll turn everything off and pretend to be asleep. I don't know why I do this. I do it every single time and have done it for years. What could this be? - What does this person live when someone comes into the room? - I think a college dorm, it sounds like. - I see, I see. - I don't think it's like a railroad style apartment where they have to pass through the room in order to get to theirs. - No, I think it's like, I don't know. - Okay, right? Like that's the. - You, when you were at, and you went to NYU, right? Did you live in a dorm freshman year? - Never lived in a dorm in it. - Oh, okay. - It freaks me out. - So that's why you're not, okay. So when you live in a dorm. - Oh, sure, sure, sure. - Your door is unlocked constantly. And if, and it's your roommate. - It's not only that, it's just like people come, like Brett, like I would sometimes wake up to like my best friend Brett just beaching around. - She would be, okay, got it. - Doing homework because like, she couldn't end her room because her roommate was asleep. - That's like a nightmare. - It was awesome. - Okay. - It was the best time of my life. I've never experienced such joy in my entire life. I felt like I ruled the world. I was like, I remember the first night of college, where everyone was like, okay, should we eat now? Should we order food and eat? And I was like, wait. - What? - What? - We can just have like a sleepover and eat and have fun. - Oh, I see, yeah. You're right. You're so right. - But I don't know what your issue is. I just, maybe you're an introvert. - No, my sister went to NYU. And like, it just made sense to live with her. - Oh, okay. - Well, that's fun. - Yeah. - How'd you meet Matt? - I was on the improv team at NYU, and he wanted to get on the sketch team, and then I had a crush on a girl who lived on his floor. - Are you bisexual? - No. - But at the time, I was like, after conversion therapy, I was like, I guess I'm straight again. - You did conversion therapy? - And then, yes. - Oh, I'm so sorry. - No, that's okay, that's okay. It wasn't like electrodes or anything, which was just like a creepy guy, like telling me, this is why I think he's bad. So, I was in love with this girl, gorgeous girl. Gorgeous Asian, and she was friends with Matt. And the first time I ever saw Matt was on Facebook when you could post videos to walls. And I'm stalking this girl. (laughing) I just like, just Facebook stalking this girl. Cause I was just, and I wasn't like creepy or anything. - That's not creepy. People stalk people on Instagram all the time. - Exactly, exactly. - So, but then there's a video of this guy, and it's Matt Rodders being like, hey, (beep) I shouldn't say her name. We're like, hey, I'm sending you a little naked video, and I was just like him, just like doing a little naked dance, but like above the waist. - Uh-huh. - And I was like, who the fuck? - I need publicly posted this. - He publicly posted this and I was like, who the fuck is this guy? Like, closing in on my girl. (laughing) But then, the first time he met in person, I remember it was the elevator door was open, and then I go in and then we both like clocked each other. And like, he, like, kind of wanted to impress me, like he thought I had status over him, and I didn't see it that way. And then he auditioned for the improv group, the next year when we were softwares and I go up to him before the audition, I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited. Like, you're trying out for the groups this year. I was like, what, out of my way to be nice to him, and then he got cut after the first round and he blamed it on me. - And then how did you become friends? - And then he got on the sketch group a week later, and then like, I was the gay guy in the improv group. He was the gay guy in the sketch group, and all the other kids were like, play with each other. - Yeah. - And then we were like, no, it was like an arranged marriage thing. I'm like, stop. Like, we hate this. And then like, it's not, we're not gonna be friends just because we're gay. And then we were friends just because we were gay. It was like, the step-brothers did we just become best friends moment. - You know I've never seen step-brothers? - Get Stone tonight, watch it. It's, you will not regret it. You will be crying. - You know what my plans are for tonight? - What? - I have a big group friend, because I haven't seen my friends at all this weekend. - Uh-huh. - And I have a big friend dinner at Ty Villa. - Cute. (laughing) - That sounds so cute. - I'm really excited about it. - You're gonna get Stone before the friend dinner? - I'm gonna go to the friend dinner with a joint, smoke outside the restaurant, go in and order. - Fab. Oh, I love that. - Wait, I don't wanna push myself onto you, but I feel like we should get Stone sometime. - Uh, please-- - I just like watch a little silly little movie or something. - I would love that. - And order food. - Mother daughter, like we're- - Mother daughter, yeah, yes. - My roommate and her boyfriend have such loud sex, you can hear it in your room. We don't speak often because she's a narcissist and think she does nothing wrong, but her gross, ratty boyfriend is over all the time. All they do is have sex, argue and drink. I literally cannot stand her and find joy when she isn't in the house. I'm not the problem, right? - No, certainly not. - You should watch that new movie "Rumates" on Netflix. - "Rumates" by Jimmy Fallon, "Kero Sullivan." - Sorry. - Yes, who was it written by again? - Jimmy Fallon and "Kero Sullivan." - I love Jimmy Fallon. - Jimmy's the best. - The best. - The best. - One of the funniest, funniest, funniest, funniest. - See the best. - What did I see? Was he in "Search Party"? - I'm sure he was. He's been in everything. He was in "Season 2" of the comeback. He was in "O" he was in "The Other 2." - That's what it was, and he was the instigate. - So he was the instigate. - Oh my god, the best show. - Never. You're so funny, Karate. You're like Amy Schumer. - It's so, it's, he's amazing. - God, the "Other 2" was the best. - He's so good. - So good. - Oh. - I missed the other two. - No. - Is it cool though? You're like on hacks, you're like in this whole, you're in that whole mix of these comedy shows. - I feel very accepted by the comedy scene, which is very, which is thank you, but it's very nice because sometimes I don't feel that way from people online. So when people, like you were seeing, accept me and like take me in, it feels very good. - I had a moment like this last week where I just kind of, I stumbled on like a snark page or something, and I was like, and I fully spun out. And then I was like, I need to treat this like a fucking chemical spill zone. - Yeah, it's the worst. - It's like, actually the air is poison. - It's bad. - You know what I mean? - It's actually, it's lethal if you get anywhere near it. - I don't go on, I don't, I used to like find-- - I used to, it's vanity search all the time. - Yeah, all the time. I used to find the most joy I had a whole bit on tour. It was like a joke of mine that I would tell that I would like wake up and Google my name on Twitter. And it was like the best, it's not the best. (laughing) - Because I used to find mean tweets about myself. - Me too. - And I would read them at my show and it was very, very, very funny. But it got to the point where it became too personal and it's not funny anymore. - Like the best tears back, it's like, if you look too long like the dark thing, like it will have an effect on you. - My thing is like, I don't care if you, well I do, like I, at the time I wore this very bat, it was like a whatever. What, how did we get here? here. Um, oh, the roommate, the roommates written by Jimmy Falli. Oh, yes. And being accepted by the comedy community of Jake, it's, it's, well, open arms. My ex boyfriend, thank you. My ex boyfriend was insane and horrible, but the craziest thing about him was that he used to shit in bags. That's right. Not the toilet, literal garbage bags. This motherfucker would put a garbage bag in a small trash can, sit on it and shit. He even as a joke through the bag at me once. The bad part is, I stayed with him for months after that. How do I destroy this attraction to toxic men? Me love. Me love. I don't know. Why would he? Why would you do that? But my only reason I don't think that's a lie is because like, how could you come up with that? Shitting in bags is like, is, to me, doesn't live and can't get lives in like a, there must be some like practical lifestyle, quote unquote, practical, quote lifestyle reason. And he threw the bag. That's blocked. I'm sorry. That's, um, yeah, that's wrong. I would just hope that your next boyfriend isn't like that. I have the best time with you. I love you so much. Oh my God. I love you so much. I could talk to you for three hours. Literally. Okay. Well, Bowen, Jake, what did we learn today? We learned, we talked about everything. This felt like a proper catch up. Um, we learned so much. I learned some, I learned. I learned that, um, New York is good on you. Really? Yeah. I think so. I'm really liking this. Not that LA was bad, but I really like to agree. I think both. I'm obsessed with we. She, she delivers things in such a perfect amount of gravitas. Oh, that is so nice. You do. Do you know one time I wrote an email? I, there's my, I don't know why she love this story because of what? Okay. Someone he wrote, like, can you be here for this? And I, and I wrote back, Oh, no, I can't. I will be away. Yes. And Louise texted me. I will be away. Obsessed. And I said, what? Louise is a gay man. Louise is a gay man. Totally. What did you do today on our call? And I called you out for it. He, so we're going over this campaign and they're showing him a cardboard cutout of himself. He was like, Oh, my God, there's going to be a cardboard cutout. I love that. That's so cool. What the, what's the photo? And I texted him. I said, I showed you the cardboard cutout for approval. Do you remember? And he says, Oh, my God, you guys, Louise just side texted me. I do remember. In front of like 20 people, my dude, that is the second time I've done that in the span of two weeks. He keeps doing that. I texted him on the side. Like, Hey, reminder, like, don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was doing an interview the other day. Louise, like, was texting me, like, stuff. And I said, Louise, stop texting me. And I texted her today. I said, you're not safe when you side text me in these situations. Yeah. The cutout thing. He was like, it made it seem like I lied that he had approved it. Oh, I'm sorry. So then how, how in the future are you going to let him know about something? Like in a sidebar without potentially having your spot getting to be honest, I'm probably just going to continue doing exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and a woman's body, totally, but you need to be better about not saying, oh, my God, Louise just texted me. No, it's funny. I love it. And you know who was on the call, which made it all the better, Paul Brigante. Oh, Paul. My king of all kings. Bowen, I love you. I love you. Thank you for coming on therapists. Thank you for having me. This is make sure to tune into the culture awards on June 17th on Bravo and Peacock. 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