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Session 125: Nicholas Galitzine

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Session 125: Nicholas Galitzine

The host, a new podcast creator, shares their journey from rugby to acting, driven by personal experience and a desire for authenticity. They discuss their work on films like *Return of Stanley* and the *Red, White and Royal Blue* sequel, highlighting emotional growth and the challenges of embodying roles, including physical transformation and emotional vulnerability. The conversation explores the pressures of public life, the struggle to remain authentic in a media-saturated world, and the importance of self-compassion. They reflect on favorite films and TV shows—especially *Euphoria*, *Severance*, and *Bonnie & Clyde*—and emphasize emotional honesty over image. A personal anecdote about gaining weight for a role reveals the physical and mental toll of acting. The host also shares a passion for octopus cuisine and an online review project that evolved into a creative outlet. They praise actors like Ryan Gosling and Jennifer Lawrence for their genuine, relatable presence. The discussion concludes with a warm, personal invitation to meet in London, blending shared interests and real-life connection. The tone is reflective, heartfelt, and grounded in self-awareness.

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We started okay. Okay. Bye. I've never done this. No one's never not been in the room before. What do you mean? Like there's always no land and Louise there. Wow, so we're like pioneering right now. I guess. Well, this is my first podcast ever, so you're lying. Seriously. Serious. He's got me so excited. So I don't know if I'm going to be any good at the format. Well, I think you'll be great. We were just kicking outside. Okay. We were kicking. Yes. Yes, we were. This is your first podcast. You know, this is his first podcast. Oh, it's podcast. No, it's. Well, it's, it's kind, it is kind of a new format. Yeah. I mean, only in the last really few years. Uh-huh. Well, Nicholas Galaxy is on today. Yay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I saw your movie masters at the university yesterday. Amazing. Where'd you guys film? We filmed in London. Oh, so you're well, I mean, to be honest, I mean, I was living here when I got the job. Nothing films in LA anymore. Starting to though now. Maybe times of change, but I filmed one, one job in my whole career in LA. You'll never believe who just walks in the backhouse, walks in Ryan. I said, Oh, Nicholas, this is Ryan. Ryan goes, Hey, I go, what are you doing? Like, you don't understand. Like, so he's not supposed to be here. Like he's, do you, are you co-dependent with anyone? Well, you're just hard ones your girlfriend now. Yeah. I mean, that was kind of, sorry. That was kind of supposed to be my close friends. Oh, you did it by accident. Look, I mean, anyone who, you know, follows me, it's all knows that I've had a girlfriend for a few years. But, um, you know, we like to be private, um, which, you know, I think is just easier in this day and age. But yeah, I was, I was doing a shoot, uh, yesterday. And, um, and usually just, you know, post things to my close friends and, and, uh, I know you had a close friends. Well, listen, and let's see how this goes. Okay. Wait, I like, let's see, how this guy, I don't even use close friends. What, what do you use? I like, I did nothing. If I had something private to say, I'll like text it. But like, what are you, what are you uploading? That's, that would make you like, well, like, my close friends would just be like me talking shit. Oh, yeah. So it's like, I can't do that. What do you think of that new, the, the, the instance thing? You like it? You were so tapped in. Well, I'm like, listen, I'm getting, so I'm getting real tapped in. Okay. Yeah. What do you think of the instance thing? I don't love it. I think it's stupid. I don't love it. I hate it. And I don't want to see that little thing in the corner. It looks starting to piss me off when I go check my DM, like, and you hear the, you feel the little, like, you know, well, and it's just also, like, the, the, the level of, like, the content is really just like, it's, yeah, it's not good. I just don't care. You sit through it and you're like, I don't, I didn't need this. Yeah. Well, I don't, do you sit through it? I did it once. And I was like, wait, can I go back and turns out you can't go back? I do sit through it. I'm curious. You're curious. I'm curious, person. Yeah. Did you finish filming? Red, white, royal blue, too, yet? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Start the year already. I mean, we, we, it's been, it's been kind of not, I don't know, sorry. That doesn't ruin your shot. I, yeah, we start, we start to finish filming at the end, at the end of February. This is a really quick shoot. But, um, quick, quick. Well, I mean, it was just, I, I'm, I'm very fortunate to kind of be in a position now. I'm, I'm kind of going from job to job. So I had to squeeze in a little indie film after that before this. I know. It's so, look at me. Oh, that's cool. It's a narrow indie. What indie was it? It's, um, it's a really, it's a really cool, uh, film called Return of Stanley at Well. It's a, a period piece set in the 1950s, where I play a, the, the air to a massive fortune, whoever and thought was dead. Uh, and then he shows up 15 years later. The guy who has the fortune. Yes. And they don't know if he's a doppelganger. Okay. So what's the sequel of Red, right? And Royal, Royal blue call it tongue twister, isn't it? Red, white and royal blue. To be honest, you call it red, white. Yeah. Okay. Red, white and royal wedding. Is this equal? You guys are getting married? Well, that's the, that's the sort of the, the Easter, you really had to be there for when that first dropped. You know, I, you had to be there. I was there. You were there. You were in it. It's amazing. I rewatched it the other week in prep for this. It's a, it's amazing how, um, how well it did as well. I mean, obviously I know the books were really successful, but it did, it did really well for Amazon. Oh, well, that yes. I feel like, you know, especially since the strike, it's been an interesting time in terms of how movies are getting made and stuff like that. And I think it's almost going back to this old model where, you know, when you, when you had a sort of close relationship with the studio, you know, they trust you and kind of keep, I think that's kind of possibly it. How would you, I love it or pitch that movie to me if I had never seen it before? Well, it's, it's an animated show that, you know, was a toy line that Dolce Lindgren from Rocky fame. I don't know if you saw seen Rocky. Boxer. Boxer. Yeah. Isn't Sylvester Stallone and Rocky? Yes. He is. Rocky, actually. When I tell you, I literally, that was like, as if I had a basketball, and I was facing this way and the hoop was this way, and I went like this. You know, it was like one of the most famous movies of all time. I mean, you could have told me shorts and eager. You could have told me anyone I would have said, right. Wait, what's your favorite movie at all time? Yeah. Devil's Prada. That's a fucking good, good movie. It's a good, you want to wise maybe, or movie? Yeah, of course. Because I would never pull the fuck shit she did in Paris when she dropped her, and I get it. Well, that's the point she lost herself. Okay. So, who do you think the real villain was then? Her boyfriend and her fuck ass friends who would not let her do anything. She wouldn't, she couldn't win. She couldn't win. She'd be like, oh my god, I had the best day of work. My boss loves me. Look how fashionable I am. Well, I'm like, head to toe, like in whatever she wants, showing up late to dinner, cut, chic, whatever. Her friends are like, we've lost you. Okay, so. But, okay, I mean, I hear you, yes, but also it is, you know, it's like, it's difficult when you're in a relationship with someone you feel like they're changing in front of you, right? And you can't, you can't connect, you know, with them anymore. I know it's sad, but she has quit her job over it. No. No. Have you seen the sequel? No, I've been dying too. I love it. Really? Love the touch, the touch man. Yeah, he's great. He's awesome. Streep. Is it? He also win Burlesque? Yeah. Stanley Fakcher? No, because Burlesque is definitely the least favorite movie of all time. I think he's, wait, wait, Burlesque. Is that Wagon Wheel with 2C? I've never seen it. Yeah, I knew it. And I've never even seen it by the way. You can, is, is Burlesque with Christine Aguilera? It does. And there's the amazing thing which, where she's like, I know. Tell me to play whatever song and I'll do whatever song. And I've never seen them. You know what? Tonight, I'm going to watch Burlesque. So, okay, so in red, white and world, can we talk for like five seconds about it? Yeah, of course. So who's in charge of the relationship there? You or the president's son? Who do you think leads the way? I think, I think I do. I think I do. Yeah. I think he's more, I think Alex is more happy-go-lucky, you know, and Henry's kind of, he's, he's kind of one of those sort of quite emotional. So, Alex kind of has to adjust to his, his mood swings, I think, all the time. Did you have fun filming the second one? Yeah, had a good time. I mean, it's the first time I've gone back to shoot anything, you know, done a sequel. So, it's kind of trippy, you know, you usually, you get so used to walking with people and then, you know, not seeing them for a decade. And so, that was really, really nice. Right. And, you know, seeing Uma again. Oh, Uma. Who I've, who I've watched. Every time she pops up in a movie, I'm like, that's Uma Thurman. It's kind of crazy, isn't it? Right? Pulp fiction. What are you doing? I've watched a lot of TV. Like, wait, what TV do you watch? I've, you know, how Christine Aculair is like, name every song that I could say in a song. Yeah. Name TV show. Uh, the Traitors. Yes. So good, isn't it? Uh, Breaking Bad. Yes. Sopronos. No. But keep going, because that doesn't count. Uh, Grey's Anatomy. Yes. Vampire Diary. Yes. Okay. I think I'm, I'm Tronage. I think subconsciously I'm Tronage. Literally, like, one, two, three TV show go. Uh, uh, I've, I've watched the game. Sometimes, uh, uh, yes, I've seen game and door. No. Okay. So this is not that impressive. You've just seen, uh, you see, you've seen kind of a regular amount of TV. No, I've seen, yeah. Now you have me wondering what I do in my free time. Yeah. What do you do? I don't know. But today, somebody tried to diagnose me on the internet with what is it? And they, they listed the reasons why they think I, I have it. That girl, you know, symptoms may include sudden weight gain. I respond sudden, uh, uh, uh, weight gain. Go to my comment section. It's literally one of the top comments. She's like, I think you have this on my latest Instagram. What is it? It's a mental disorder? No. Okay. Okay. But we were talking about your, my weight gain, what do you, you were talking about your weight gain? Well, you had to put on some pounds for this role. Again, you were so good at the Transitions that is so impressive wait really yeah, that's so good, but you did now I did I did I I don't know if that came across as rude, but you had to like bulk up. No, yeah, it was pretty rude No, I look that I I had to put a lot of weight on in a quite short period of time and I definitely When you're putting that much size on you as well as muscle you also gained a lot of fat and so I Didn't recognize Myself for a few months at least and you know, you're getting asked to come and do like Public like events and stuff like that and you just don't see yourself, which is kind of trippy So did you bulk and then cut? Yeah, okay, that's that's and you had to do it quickly Yeah, and so it's you're eating a lot. I was eating like 5,000 calories, but yeah, it was not fun. It was it was it was kind of like a sickening eating like okay, wake up okay, wake up and the big omelet breakfast potatoes fruit and then there'd be sort of a snack in between then like big lunch with like a lot of rice a lot of protein then another snack then kind of do the same thing again then another snack and then Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, two lunches. Yeah, you kind of have yeah, well Yeah, did your stomach hurt all the time. Oh, yeah, it was it just wasn't fun It's you're kind of going from eating way too much food to way too little little yeah, and I'm like not a good person when I'm hang I get my hangry person Okay, you know, I said that was also equally difficult your Libra Yeah, I am I do know because I love to be worth that good and but I get that Libra vibe in you What does what does it say about me? It's like you want peace like you're good with whatever your chill like you're happy go lucky Yeah, you're not in the mood to fight. What's your partner? I don't you know It's interesting you say that I'm not in the mood to fight. I think I am I Think I think I I think I like to fight I think I'm quite a I think I'm quite a confrontation. You all right. I do feel like I like justice. I like balance. I care about Different people's perspective on it. I feel like the the way to sort of achieve harmony in life is to kind of Get all viewpoints, but but I also I think I'm quite emotional and Libras can be emotional. Yeah, and but I I can react to it in a sort of passionate way. I think when I feel Yeah, like scorned. Okay. I mean aren't you a Libra? Yeah, that makes sense. Would you say that's true to you? Yeah, pretty much like nailed it exactly Yeah, no, yeah, no one feels strongly about things Before I don't feel strongly about that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the other We're kind of Mercurial beings, aren't we? That's a good word for it. Yeah, it is so you So you want to try make Andy one try what my candy? Yes, I do of course. Yeah So this is my own special skill that we're releasing soon. Do you want pink or do you want blue? Uh pink Are they are they different flavors? That look that one sad So so octopus. Yeah, because you have a passion for octopus. Is it like you're like a candy sommelier? And you have to like I guess yeah, I kind of love that Hmm It's done So incredible. You like I love it. So this is your first podcast you say Do you think you love her to another one? I think this is it for me. I think this is Won't get better. So the octopus comes out won't get better Oh, yeah, that could mean that I mean but didn't even mean in that in that way, but yeah This isn't about me. So do you actually want to hear about octopus? They're like I love octopus the creature or the food the food in college I had an internship at a record label and then they like like hey, you need to go finish college before you work for us full time Yeah, I was smoking a lot of weed you smoke weed No, anymore. No, you still you still yeah, okay So I was smoking a lot of weed and I was really bored and so I made this account called past that Puzz where we'd go out to eat and I would eat octopus and review it and be like one out of this is really good 6.4 out of eight tentacles high-puzzies tense up and so that's where this came from and now we're here So what were you expect did you suspect it was shut the fuck up? Did you expect that it was going to evolve into something else because it's kind of a niche right like I finished talking now that was the first I had No, it is crazy how much I've cut you up, but can I tell you it's it's a testament to how comfortable I feel with you Yeah, because we're having a conversation. I to be fair. I haven't noticed it. Yeah So you can So no, what if you told me while I was reviewing octopus that I would end up with a show called to therapist that somehow made its way onto Netflix No, I kind of thought it was just like a high habit. Yeah, I'm still review octopus. I haven't in a while But I'll probably do it tomorrow because we're going to Vegas Just today Gracie Abrams announced her look at my life tour. 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There's Lala Paloza where Audrey Hopper is going to perform Lord is going to perform Charlie XC X is going to perform tape McCray is going to perform the world cup is here If you want to see the world cup. It's not just music. It's sports You can go see a comedy show Marcelo Hernandez is going on tour Niki Glazer is going on tour Everyone is going on tour besides me. So Use code therapist for 10% off your order and thank you again Seakyk for sponsoring today's episode If I can like stay in my house Like as much as possible like I will really what do you do at home? Just I whistle would You're lying right now. No. Yeah. That's my I make little chess pieces Uh Yeah, I just kind of that's what you do all day and you listen music while you do that. This is music. What music you listen to I kind of do everything really. I know that's such a wonky answer. Okay. Well, you're let's say we're whittling wood right now Okay, you need a song. What do you play? I'm playing What am I playing like bonnie for oh my god. That's so oh Okay, that was good. I love bonnie there Um, oh, I don't know the the new one the new one the new one is great right? Say well, I love everything that he does he does. Yeah, what's your favorite bonnie there song? Oh, um, what is it called 33 God? Oh, you know, I haven't really given that one a chance yet But I know it's kind of like weird. Oh, no, it's not my what the walls What do they call it the walls acts one and two? Okay, I was really good. It's like it plays at the end of Place beyond the pines as well pretty slow. Never seen that. I love ethyl cane. I listen to a lot of Yeah, crush crush is my favorite song bonnie there You used to a lot of bonnie there while you're whittling wood. Yeah, that sounds really that makes sense Does it yeah, I feel like that's what he would want Yeah, oh no, it's definitely what he would want Um, it's no, I don't just wait a word. I don't want to like paint this image of me as some sort of like learn some Uh, it's not really a wood whittler you would whittler. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna say lumberjack, which was making me sound kind of cooler But that's that's not what I do. Is that what a lumberjack does? No, a lumberjack cuts down trees. I do they still exist Yes Sure Yeah, I am sure. Okay, this place is in the world that require lumberjacks. We still use wood. This whole room is made of wood. Someone had to do that, right Yeah, it was in it was interwoven studios In-so-woven studios they built a set. Oh, okay, but they must have got it from a lumberjack. You think? Look, I don't know I don't know if it's just a guy But that's probably what you'd call a guy who will right have you seen train dreams I haven't talk about the lumberjack. Yeah, talk about a fucking lumberjack. Oh, wow. Have you seen train James? Yeah That doesn't seem like the kind of movie I thought every single Oscar nom this year. What was your first movie? It was a tiny tiny movie called the beat beneath my feet where I I played this like kid who Like has an absentee father and then a disgraced rock god who like fake his own death like moves in next door and he like Black males him into like teaching me it like doesn't really make any sense The beat beneath your feet at exactly. Yeah, it didn't do that well, but I wasn't trying to be an actor and so it was kind of you were it No, I was I was trying to be a rugby player What yeah, I had an active until I left school. Okay so what caused the shift? I hurt myself playing rugby so I couldn't do it anymore and then I got really anxious and depressed and then my friends school were actors and they said well you come audition for a play and I did and then I got scouted and then I was like you like scouted yeah I mean it's it's look compared to like I'm sure you've had people on who are like properly trained and stuff like that like I mean I always felt little chip on my shoulder that I didn't have that but to be honest I kind of came to it in a much more organic way and I think it makes my love for it kind of more more you get less jaded I think when you've kind of you haven't had money drawn from you to like do the thing you love does that make sense so because it happened to you so organically yeah because I wasn't desperate for it like I think there's some of some of these actors like you know whether it's they come from like an acting family or you know they wanted to when they were five years old and then they did it in high school and then they went to a you know acting school whatever and then they come out of the acting school and they've paid all this money for it and they're not getting these job they've committed their whole life already by the time they're like 21 to achieving this thing which you know some of it has to do with talent but a lot of it is just being in the right place at the right time and and people just like noticing you and so I kind of came into it being like like I could care less really like I don't really know what I'm gonna do with my life but like if this works out great and then my love for it kind of started to build and build and build and and now I'd like it's kind of who I am in a lot of ways so wow have you ever acted I have I did my first movie in Portland the summer oh no way yeah what was the movie wishful thinking who's that with Lewis Pullman my my Hawk haven't met her you've never met my no she's great I mean looks extraordinarily like her mom yeah it's crazy quite crazy she's so lovely I the best time how did you find it I love it is that what you want to do yeah did you always want to do it yeah but I love doing this as well but I think I have a little more fun when like I don't know like what why do you think you have more fun just playing another character I think I say being able to like like when I say something stupid on here like I'm saying it as Jake yeah you have to bear all the embarrassment yeah exactly but if I do something as like a character yeah but I mean that's very interesting I feel like a big thing for me with acting is letting go of the ego around being embarrassed after you know taking a swing at something right and it's really interesting because you you had Rachel sent it on yeah I love and you know she was part part my I'd say my probably biggest learning experience was on the film with her when we did bottoms because that was first time I did a really broad comedy all about you worked with kaya and kaya as well oh my god the whole game I'm sure you know all those guys there's such a yeah they're really I owe as well I met I owe like twice so lovely yeah I mean it it stands you in good stead that you don't feel as embarrassed making choices and as another character yeah it's a really good thing but like I remember you know I I read that script and obviously like my character's kind of a small part of that movie but I knew I like desperately really wanted to do it and once I got it then it was like oh I felt this huge responsibility to be funny which is kind of like the worst thing in the world because well you just force it and then I got kind of embarrassed trying to force it but then by the end of the job I think just like kind of letting go and letting go of ego yeah trying things out but the fact that you're already experiencing that means you're you're kind of you're ready for it I guess you think I just I mean I don't know like all the time I have to remind myself to just like not care so much I know it's hard though and especially hard to do that in a when when you make your passion your job as well right because you have to keep earning the response that the the ability to like do the thing that you love I think that's the scary thing you because because nothing is given as an actor and you know industry can turn around tomorrow and say there's a younger better looking more talented version of you like we'll just cast him and said you have to keep earning and proving to people that you have the ability to have these opportunities that can go away at any instant and when your ego comes into it my my waffling but it's a waffle it means chag shit no no I'm listening when your ego comes into it as well I mean it's and you keep you know telling yourself oh I'm not good enough and and and that was really that take was really really shit like I don't know why I did that so embarrassing you kind of go into yourself and then and then you you can't be creative anymore and then it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way did you experience this after red white I mean not red white was like everywhere do you remember everywhere yeah come out 2021 22 I think maybe it was huge huge I always find it hard to remember because it was we didn't really promote it because of the strike the strike yeah I mean I didn't feel that as much with red white because you know I was cast first in the whole process and and sorry not not a flex but but as in I felt like oh you aren't the opportunity and then when other people sort of kind of you know I tested with Taylor and and then Uma came on board it was kind of more I had more time to kind of like ground myself in the experience and be like yes but then you know just the next year then I did that I did a movie with Anne Hathaway called the idea of you and then I did the show called Mary and George with Julianne Moore which is this sort of period piece and so then it was like you know sharing the screen with these I mean two Oscar winners and every day you're kind of going I see in them sort of vaguely where I want to get to like do I have enough ability to do that you're kind of in awe of what they're able to do I mean I still do in a lot of ways you know yeah talking about he-man I mean like when someone says here you are going to play a god the strongest man in the uniform and you have to look like this I mean you kind of go like I'm just a person I don't really know how to embody a sort of larger than life character but I mean I don't know it like is there any actor that you think you've come across to you like that person is entirely confident and authentic in every moment that they are you have who I really interesting yeah I feel like that's why he went so much but do you think he spent a long time getting to that place you think he was always that way I have you seen the videos of him in school yeah with doing the rap rap stuff he's been so himself forever yeah I think he's worked incredibly hard yeah he's incredibly talented yeah but I think the reason people gravitate towards him so much is because like he's him but you can I mean sure but also people evolve and so you're always you in different ways I mean like you can even look in in terms of his like clothing like how he started a few years ago tell you know yeah you can't say necessarily one is like more authentic than the other but yeah I don't know I think you're kind of just like forced to change as well but that's interesting I can I can definitely see I think he was I mean I loved Marty Supreme and I thought also the way he promote the movie was like really it entirely someone who knew who they were and what they wanted to achieve that of right what was smart about that was that was like the whole bit of the movie yeah did you was that your favorite movie what was your favorite movie of the movie this year was Train Dreams oh really yeah you know I'd I'd love Joel Edgerton so I really want to see it but that's the one I haven't seen it was really moving what else did you like I liked Train Dreams I liked I liked him net which is crazy because I hate period pieces really what do you hate about it hate hate hate what do you hate about it my thing with them is I just don't know what you're saying so like I can't and it's like okay but what if it what if it's what if it's what if it's like a period thing with like modern like a Bridgerton like with modern language oh see you're like you mean a cell phone you're inch give me a cell phone wait but so okay so what so you won't watch something that like Robert Egger's does for example like Nosferatu now I saw Nosferatu but he like famously won't he doesn't want to shoot anything that has a cell phone in it yeah I didn't understand anything that was going on in the movie at all ever but you got the vibes of the movie right you could do enjoy it just that really it was like a vampire but Train Dreams is kind of period isn't it very much so so you're just the noxie more on really yeah I just yeah I like Train Dreams because I - I got it, I was like, okay, understand this. And it made me cry at the end, and I was like, - Did you make you, did you not think you were gonna get it? So it made you feel quite like. - No, my dad told me how much he loved it, and I was like, oh my God, well, if he likes it, then I'll probably like it. - I actually just started watching euphoria. - I knew you were, by the way, and I knew you were about to say euphoria. - Because it's just all over, yeah. I feel like I've seen every clip on TikTok. - Have you seen season one, or you just started for the first time ever? - I, no, just for the first time. - Well, no, that's not true. I watched like half of season one a while ago, and then just thought, oh, it's really like quite dark, and what happens in this high school. This is like no high school I've ever known. And then, and then recently just started finished it, and then started watching the second season, and out the third season. - I mean, by the way, like I always knew, Zinday was like, great, but she's like. - Incredible. - I was like, really floored by how great she is, as Sydney Sweeney as well. - Season two is great. You just started season two. - No, I finished it. I'm on season three, I'm up to date. I haven't seen the recent recent. - I haven't seen the recent one either. You know who I thought was so amazing? Was that the stripper that Rue sent to rehab? - Oh my God, she was so good. - She was so good. She was so good. - Just like wild energy. - And then she brought her back. - Well, does she die? Is that what they say? - Oh, she is. - Is that what they say? In the last, what? - It's kind of what it's implied. - If the implication is, yeah. - What applies that? - Well, the alamos sends them to this rehab and then they get taken away to either be trafficked or murdered. - Yeah, I think it's traffic. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's the heavy implication. - How is that applied? - She goes there and there's no paperwork to fill out and she's like, okay, like Zinday is. She's like, where are they going? Like, how do you, you know, how can I get in contact? And it's just like a dark building. - I thought it was just a shitty rehab. - No, but that's why it also just. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - Okay, so the implication is that they're being trafficked. - Yes. - Segway that. - Huh. - I'm loving it. - I thought she was gonna come back to the end of the scene. - No, no, no. Well, I mean, we wait to be surprised, I guess, but. - Fuck, I really liked her. - I think she'll work a lot from the show. It's really interesting when you can see, you know, someone in a small role like do something really special and you're like, oh, they're gonna work. - You know who's the most famous example of that? - Who? - Charlie Sheen. - Oh, really? - Yes. - Tell me. - For those that don't know, he had one scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, one scene. I'm gonna have chill thinking about it. And he was like late to set 'cause he was Charlie Sheen. And he shows up, does this one scene blew up? - Yeah. - He came Charlie Sheen. - He's so charismatic. Have you seen the doc on him? - No, I need to. - I need to. - Is he one of your favorites, favorite actors? - No. - Who moves you? Who's your favorite? - Like if I'm like sat for them? - Yeah, you'll go see them, no matter what. - What a good question. - Maybe I'm interviewing you, no? - Oh, okay, well, who are you sat for? - I mean, really when I was young, it was Robin Williams, like everything Robin Williams did. I mean, he just had this light. It's very interesting. I kind of feel, I mean, there's such weird comps, but I kind of feel like Ryan Gosling has this in a weird way of like, he's someone who's incredibly funny, really charming. He can do really emotional dramatic stuff, but he has a radiant about him that really just brings people on site. Like, it's very hard. I mean, you know, you mentioned Timothy and obviously, you know, he's had the issue with the whole, the ballet opera thing, which by the way, I went to the ballet for the first time the other day. And it was amazing. I have to say, like, ballerinas are incredible. And I had a great time. But, you know, he's someone obviously, the way social media works, like everyone has a sort of, if just usually if you're doing well, people will have a sort of split opinion on you. But someone like Ryan Gosling, I feel like, he's very hard to, like everyone loves him. - Yeah. - He's some days kind of the same way, I guess. - I'm always sat for Jennifer Lawrence. - Oh, she's great, isn't she? - I'm always sat for her. - Did you see "Dime I Love?" - I did. - It was heavy. - I'm sat for Jennifer Lawrence. I think her comedic timing is like, some of the best in the game. - I'm surprised she hasn't done more comedy. - I know. Do you see "No Hard Feelings" the best movie ever? - Do you think the, do you think that she kind of ushered in this, like, sense of, like, relatability? Because, you know, you do notice, like, there's a lot of these, like, a list is now who are, like, trying to be relatable, and words, like, you know, they'll have their own TikTok or whatever, and it's like, she kind of, I mean, I remember she got really slammed for, like, people who thought she was trying too hard, but. - You know, who actually ushered that in first was Ann Hathaway. Do you remember that? She, there was, like, a fucking hate train on her, and I never got it, 'cause I love Ann Hathaway, and I know you've worked with her. - Yeah. - But she was pretty relatable. - Yeah. - But yeah, I guess Jennifer Lawrence really ushered in that, like. - Well, I mean, look, they're so different. I mean, I, you know, obviously, Annie and I talked about this. But that was hard. That was very, like, strange and harsh. Like, someone winning the sort of highest award there is in the industry, and then people kind of really switching off. I think that reality is she's like a theater kid. You know, she's really intelligent. She's really, I don't know, bright, and people don't like that, I think, a lot at the time. It's kind of the same thing with Jennifer Lawrence, don't think, she was like, she had a brightness. How do you, how do you navigate it? Do you see people that you interview, like, consistently trying to navigate it as well, like, how much of themselves to share whilst also kind of, 'cause it's kind of a poison chalice. - Kind of, there's certain people that will come on and be more reserved. - Yeah, but look, and I don't mean like from you, like, you're putting this expectation on them. I mean, sort of the, the world at large is sort of putting this expectation on them. And it's, you know, we're all on our journey to sort of be, you know, find our sort of most authentic self, but I think it's really hard to do. - I've struggled with it recently. Like, I think about what I say more. And I used to just, like, kind of rip it, and like, say whatever I wanted, and like, be myself and cut you off and do whatever. And like, but now that people are, like, - You still cut people off? - Yes, but if you think this is bad, go, like, you have no idea how bad I used to be. - It's like, it's, it's, it's some, well, it's just very, I think it's interesting for you because, you know, your, I say, your journey is kind of much more uncharted, this sort of. So what were you doing before? Were you doing, like, social media before? - I was working at a record label. - Oh, wow, okay. - For this guy named Zach. - Okay. - Zach is now my manager. - Okay. - So it's like, it very much all stayed in the family. - Did you go from feeling just like a regular sort of person to, oh, now I have to, like, put out this version in myself, I have to sort of put out of. - Yeah, I think I felt that way starting when I started doing tour. - Oh, you've toured? - I toured this. - And that's when I was like, oh, people are paying to see me put on a show right now. You can't, like, there's not, like, like, this used to be on YouTube, it's not on YouTube anymore, it's on Netflix, but when it was on YouTube, it was like, I felt like I could kind of say and do whatever I wanted and be whatever mood I wanted to be in because people were clicking on that on their own free volition. But when they bought tickets to a show and they like paid money, I was like, oh, there, I have to put on a good show. Like, I can't have someone leave here being, like, I wasn't entertained. - But did you still feel like it was you? - Yeah. - You won't put it on-- - I was able to, I learned how to make it me. I'll never forget it. I was about to go on stage and I think it was. He was Vancouver. Was it Toronto or Vancouver? Which was the first Canada we went to? - Toronto. - Toronto, I was so hungover. Like, so hungover, I'd never been hungover for a show before 'cause I wasn't a great game. I was so hungover 'cause we had New York the night before. And I just like really leaned into the fact that I was hungover and it worked really well and was one of my best shows and I was like, oh, so like. - Well, we were talking about relatability. - Yeah, it's hard. It's like, it's hard 'cause people will be like, oh, you're so relatable, you're so authentic. And then they'll want you to market it. And it's like, you can't market that. That's not how that works. - Yeah, and it's also like kind of a pressure. - And then they'll want you to market it. And then you'll do something that is relatable and authentic and they'll be like, well, no, you can't do that. - Do you think actors can be relatable at a certain level? - Yeah, but the audience doesn't let them. - Really? - You're not allowed to be because everything you guys say and do is dissected on a level that a lot of other public figures are not. - Everything. - It's really interesting. I was, I was, I have a show in development and we were talking about that. How I wanted to be in like the acting world and this. And they're like, it's so funny. You say that 'cause you're in a world right now where you can get away with saying a lot more and you want to be kind of like muzzled. And I don't think you're gonna like feeling muzzled. Do you ever feel muzzled? - Truthfully, I'm quite a, I'm quite a candid person, I think I wear my heart and my sleeve and I really have, I feel very compelled to be honest. I think definitely that, I do think that there are things, no matter what I say, you know, people will disagree with. We kind of have lost a little bit of, I'm interested in nuance, maybe that's the kind of the Libra thing, I don't know. And I just, I think that's the thing that I really struggle with is I want to have like really honest conversations. I wouldn't say if you're a muzzle tool. I kind of choose to like not share a lot about myself and I think that that's not really like a, it was kind of self-muzzling in a way. But I, I'm also just like, you know, when I ask you like, you know, can actors really be relatable? I mean, like do people really want to hear like what actors have to say for themselves? I do, because actors are like kind of the face of pop culture in a sense, actors and singers. And pop culture can be used as like a gateway, I feel like for a lot of people to comment on like socio economic issues without having to talk about politics, they can just kind of use the actors and the singers as like the front facing man. Oh my god, I am so smart. I'm like freak, are you hearing me right now? I was in awe. Are you hearing me right now? No, I'm literally talking at every word. I'm like thinking really hard about the next word. But I don't you agree, though, that like people are like, everyone's freaking out about Timothy Shilman and the ballet thing, but it's like, is that really what you're mad about? Do you think people just need to be mad at something in general? Sometimes, but I think like this country is like in such a shit hole of shit holes that like people are, yes, people do want to be angry about something, but like people are more angry than usual. Yeah. I think it's just what it is. Yeah. Like gas so high. Would you move? No, you wouldn't. I didn't take it to a sort of existential place too much. I can do that sometimes. Okay. Okay. But you know what I do have to ask you. Yeah. What do you therapist about today? I actually really don't feel like I'm therapist. I feel very, what do you therapist about? Can I ask that? Yeah. Maybe you want to go make myself a bowl of cereal and all my spoons were in the dishwasher and I didn't have any plastic spoons. So that was in a way. Then I woke up really fucking tired. Yeah. Like we're tired than usual tired and I slept last night, full night sleep. Eight and a half. Okay. Now I'm therapist that you got a half and I got like five. Went to the gym, still tired, got back from the gym, slept for 20 minutes, woke up, still tired, uncomfortable actually. Then I had lunch and then I immediately felt sick. Immediately felt sick, immediately felt like that was gross because it was gross because I have like a hyper fixation meal every now and then. Oh, what are you reading right now? Right now I'm obsessed with getting the awake smoothie from creation and avocado toast with cherry tomatoes and locks. And you've just been smashing every single day. Yeah. And I finally got sick of it today because they forgot my hot sauce. And so I had to use a different hot sauce and you and it was just so I was really angry about that. I've been angry about this fucking cold that I've had. Okay. I'm therapist because I did this like really intense movie and was completely healthy for all of it. And literally the day before I came here to do like the biggest press tour of my career, I like started feeling. Well, why? Because your body was running on like adrenaline. Yeah. And then you had one brief moment where you were like, and then your body was like, okay, great. But I tried to tell myself I was like, this is how it's just how it has to be. I shouldn't do that. Well, no, your body listen, like your mind. Yeah. But now what do I do? Because I got this premiere later. Yeah, I'm a little under the weather. Like, but you don't sound it. Well, I am. You want the honest answer of what to do. Yeah. A steroid shot steroids. What's the premiere? Like in three hours. Yeah. You need a steroid shot asap. Oh my god. What are you talking about? You need one like literally right after this. I thought I thought you couldn't do it like so soon after. Wait, what is a steroid shot? It just like it reduces the inflammation across your body. So like, so like when I was really sick, my sinuses hurt so am I deep hurt because my sinuses hurt and everything hurt. And so the steroid basically de-inflammizes you. Are you saying that you think I look quite inflamed? No, but you're telling me you feel sick. I'm like, great. You should get a steroid shot. So why is it so hot in here? Like, by the way, and I told you that, like, I feel inflamed in my. Yes. I know. And sometimes I start talking in this room and it gets so hot that my ear clogs up. Wait, you just said two things in the last minute that I've never heard your teeth hurting because of your sinuses. You've never heard of that before. That's very normal. Mind you. You what? You guys are out of your mind. Your teeth have never hurt because your sinuses hurt. Your sinuses are right here. Yeah. So then if they're really inflamed and they're and they're putting pressure and they're in like the science, I've never felt like I've never felt like this smart person in a room before. When your sinuses are inflamed, everything else when gets pushed and inflamed. So your top teeth. Yeah, but your teeth like what do you say? Go through your gum. Everything is connected. Okay. Okay. She get a lymphatic. If I had time, I would. Okay, but you don't you need a steroid shot. Okay. I'm having a really fun time with you. I'm glad. I mean, too. But you know what I can't stop thinking about? What? Are you going to add me to your close friends? Yeah, but we got to follow each other first. I know you don't we don't even follow each other. No, I was thinking about it beforehand, but then I thought I could come here and then and you could have been a terrible person. And then I wouldn't have wanted. And then I would have made the commitment too early, you know. Okay. So do you have you ever followed someone like too quickly and then got to know them and be like, oh, really? I'll just unfollow them. Or I'll just like keep I'll just scroll. Have you? People are like, this is the fucking thing. Just scroll. Just scroll. Yeah, but it means something or follow means something. No, it doesn't. Just scroll. How many people do you follow? A thousand eight hundred. There you go. It's nothing to you. It's just like just scroll if you don't like it. Does it really need to derail your day that much? No, but how many people do you do you follow? I think like three hundred. Oh, yeah. Follow me. So you guys know I am Poppy's number one fan and I have been Poppy's number one fan. But what I love about Poppy is their ability to tap into current cultural moments and make a culinary moment out of that, which is actually very hard to do. And they've done it once again with the love Island themed punch pop, which is one of my favorite flavors I've ever had. I love like anything like berry fruity. Like you know, I die for that. And you know, I just showed my old Poppy and he loved it. It's crazy that he's never had it before. I love Poppy more than anything. And honestly, maybe I should just have a little sip with you guys right here. Five grams of sugar. So does back, but so much better. Only five grams of sugar. Poppy, I love you. You know what? I just had a really good idea. Yeah. To promote this episode, what if I came over to your house? Okay. Where do you think I'm going with this? I really don't know, but I'm liking what's the one thing and give me a give me a storage. No, and we would all what together. Yeah, should we do it? We could do that. Would you be down? I mean, 100%. So where do you would all what? In London. When's the next time you're going to be in London? Uh, uh, right after this wait. Okay, no, I'm thinking you're going to be in London right after this. So will you be in London in the beginning of June? Yeah. You want to come will? I will come with a word. I will be in London. I can be, I can be and I don't even fucking play with me. Don't even give me that look. I can be in London. June 9th. Will you be in London? June 9th. Yes. Do you want to whittle word on June 9th? Wait, so you get that's my one day? Well, like you're not going to give me like a time. I have to be back for Cassidy's birthday on the 13th. Okay. I'm doing I'm in New York for a few days working with Ben Stiller for my next movie. So I don't know if, uh, yeah. That's right guys. You know, he went to my high school. Did he? Yeah. He's kind of an icon. Uh, talk about icon. Severance is the best show ever made. I mean, but that also the fact that you that's interesting. Like I said, Manson, you think Severance. Well, that's current. What do you think? What do you think? When you think why I think like Zoolander? I only like girly humor. Like I like girl humor. Like I like clueless. I like mean girls. I like bridesmaids. I like train rack. Like I like, I like insecure. I like girls. I like like I like broad city. What if like Will Farrell was like Jake, this is great part for you in this like boy boyish kind of like buddy comedy? You do it. I would take And I would bring my. my own humor. I wouldn't try to like which is you think inherently like feminine is that I think. Yeah, it's definitely more flamboyant. All my best friends were girls. My mom always had girls like her friends around like I was like raised by like woman in comedy like my Rudolph, Kristen, we're not that they were around in my house, but like that's what was your mom's yeah, that's who I watch. I grew up watching Kristen Wigg, my Rudolph, you handler Amy Schumer, Joan Rivers, like that's my humor. Yeah, that's like I know what you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean. Like the like I just like the boy humor like I can't it doesn't work for me. And I don't mean to sound like whatever, but like I've never seen the hangover. You think do you feel it's unsophisticated? No, I don't. It just doesn't do it for me. I don't laugh. Yeah. But I've also never given it a chance. And I think maybe that's because I felt rejected as a child. Have you this isn't like a plug for myself, but did you see bottoms? Yeah, of course. Would you say that that was, would you say that humor had a femininity to it? I think it had a really good mix of both. That's what I think too. I think it had a, and I think that's why it hit so hard. It's it's really, oh god, that's so brilliant. Yeah. So brilliant. So brilliant. I was so brilliant. Did you work with Kai at all? Yeah, I mean, and Kai, by the way, like, I mean, first of all, she's so smart. Smart as person in the room. She like really, like, I feel like that was a really, I don't know if she'd done anything before that. I think she did American Horror Story before that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. But that's a very different, like, so dry, like dry comedy as well. Dry that. Yeah. That is my favorite comedy. Yeah. Okay, you want to tell me the trunks? Yeah, what's this. By the way, you're, you know, you're gonna get a story shot up. I'm so excited. I gave, I gave my body just like you're, you, you first up thinking about it. What do I do if my friend is the problem in his relationship? Nothing. I just moved in with my friend who complains about his boyfriend, not doing anything, not doing what he wants and not giving him attention. But when I witness them conversing, my friend is so dismissive and means to his boyfriend. I'm not going to be involved, but I can't defend him. My friend when he complains because he is the problem. Well, my mom always said you don't get involved in anyone else's relationship ever. Yeah. But also, like, you're friends are an extension of you in some ways. And if you start to, like, curate an environment where you're all kind of, like if they're doing something kind of a little toxic, that could kind of come back onto you, do you think? If I was this person. Yeah. What would I, what would you do? I would say to my friend, you are the problem. Like, my best friend Julia, like, when she's in her relationship, I'm like, you, this is a you problem. Like, you are behaving wrongly. Like, why can't you just say to your friend, like, this is your fault? That's not your real friend then. Hi, Jake. And Nicholas Galaxy. Oh, these are people getting these into you. Oh, okay. I see. I see. Hi, Jake. I'm a senior in college and I'm graduating soon. I'm feeling like I didn't do enough during these years. And I'm not ready to let go of this period of my life. Everything is about to change. And I feel like I didn't let loose enough the past four years. Help. I want to feel better about this. You can still party after college. Yeah. But also, what would they, what would they expect to get out of college? Was it, was it really that they just want to go out more? That's what it sounds like. Do you, how old are you? Twenty four. Twenty six. Okay. And you still go out all the time. Okay. All the time. Have the best time of my life. Dance, dance the night away. I have more fun going out post crowd than I did then I did in college. I would say you went to college. Yeah. I did. And you'll never guess which one. USC. I was going to say USC. Go Trojans. Huh. What was the alternative? If the working music. Okay. But then how did you, how did you? Because working music is a lot about like networking, right? So like, I want it to be an A and R. Basically, it's like finding new artists and that requires a lot of like going into rooms and like mingling and networking and like finding, and I've, I've been told, I've been told I have a good ear. Did you find anyone? No, because I did this. Okay. So right before I started on my A and R journey, this happened. Well, okay. So, but do you, do you ever listen to someone who's not very known and then like you put people onto them and then they like blow up? No, I would say I do that more with television. Okay. Like I would, I would really hyper fix it. I can really put people onto TV. Like what, what kind of shows can you put me on? I mean, have you seen industry? It's my fucking favorite show. What? I think that show is I, did you ever see skins? So I couldn't get through it when I was a kid. I mean, like because it really bugged me out when the cast, who's parents, who's the, who's the, Nick Holt? No, no, no, no, no, who's the one who's like really trouble, Fee. Fee. When her parents were like, fucking in front of her, it really bugged me out and I had to turn it off. But that's like euphoria, basically. Yeah, but I was too young for it. Like I think euphoria took so much from skin. It did. But I think industry is kind of like unofficial sequel to skins. I love industry. I didn't know what about you. I think it's brilliant. I think the first season, first of all, I think Marissa is kind of like genius. I think she's just so, she has like a emotionality to her and hardness and I think also, you know, that character is so well written. But that first season is all about these like people trying to find themselves. Okay, so the season finale of season three is the best episode of television ever. I mean, like them looking at each other across the table. Uh, I need a song. Yeah. I needed an edit of Robin Yasman to, um, are you thinking of shoes in Texas? Oh, no, because she chose 10, which again, you know, talking about seeing things on TikTok, she's regretting now from the in the new season, right? She doesn't know who she is. No, and she was, and also she wasn't just choosing him. She was choosing the life, the life. Yeah. And she can't live without the life. She cannot live without the life. Yeah. She does not know a life where the other than that. So I don't think she regrets it at all. I think she's just an annoyed. You have to watch the new season. It's unbelievable. It's actually unbelievable. Season four, episode two. Oh, Emmy, calling their motherfucking names, calling their names. My roommate is Rude and Insane, and she uses her OCD and depression to play herself as the victim 24/7. She tries to tell me who I can and can't hang out with. And to top it off, she comments on my weight and health. I need to confront her, but she never listens and just slips on us. Why would she comment on your weight and health? This is, this has nothing to do with that, but talking about bad roommates. So, you know, I said to you, when I first came to LA, yeah, and I was living on the couch in this, they ran an app out of this house. And one day, they ran an app out of this house. They all worked for this app. He was saying apartment. Oh, yeah. That's kind of cool. It's like kind of like app. Yeah. Oh, those people. They were running the app. Okay. So, so, so this always reminds me of that. Did you watch the OC? Okay. So, I guess I'm not Christine Aguilar. I'm Berlin. You're not. So, these these German guys comment that they're the new roommates who are coming in and there's this one guy who I like to think I'm quite perceptive of people. And I got a really bad vibe of him. Really? And I told my best friend, do you know this app, the locks club? You heard of it? Yes, I've heard. Do you know Austin, Kevin? Yes, very well. He's my best friend. So, he, he, I, I have to have it as your best friend. I kind of have a career. Yes, of course. I have, I kind of have a career because of Austin because when I had no money and I would just book to come out to LA, he let me stand his couch. Oh, that's awesome. Austin's the man. Oh, he's, he's a, are you two-ish? No. Okay. I just surround myself with juice, juice I like. Yeah. I told him. I was like, Austin, this guy, there's something seriously wrong with him. Cut to a couple years later, after COVID, have you heard of? Yeah. The whole thing is a complete scam. How did it scam? They're fake COVID tests. What? They would fake, I literally, we heard him on the phone, basically putting this whole thing together. I don't know if you're going to include this. There's an FBI case against him. Is it public knowledge that there's a case against him? I don't know. I don't know. There should be. We're making a documentary. You are? Well, Austin is mainly. Yeah. Oh, so you're like the production side of things a little bit, huh? Yeah, I've started producing most of my own stuff. Really? Yeah. Good for you. Can you cast me? I'm trying to think what you'd be, what you'd be right for. I'll do anything, like Christine Aguilar and her last, I know any number. There's a movie I'm doing, which is, do you know who Goss van Santis? Have you seen my own private Idaho? He also directed Goodwill Hunting, this guy, which you also haven't seen. Is that the one where I'm going to go see about a girl? Yeah. Oh, I don't remember that line. What? How about their maples? Is that from Goodwill Hunting? Yeah. That's where that saying is from. Goodwill Hunting. Yeah. How about the maples? It's from Goodwill - Yeah. Matt Damon yeah anyway this is a film about one of the first male like supermodels in the 90s and how he uh lived this like double life being in the uh you know studio 54 you love going out and dancing stuff with like Naomi Campbell Cindy Crawford uh and then he lived this double life because he was also in a doomsday cult that was siphoning all of his money i love cults i love cults to wait in this movie that you're currently casting for well no i get we're still writing the script but who knows maybe you could be the cult leader yep i can see it okay yeah i can definitely see it Jake how wait so wait you said you like cults i love cults what your favorite cult i mean it's kind of like basic mainstream to say Scientology but they're just here they're here like everywhere yeah and it's so interesting they're hiding in plain sight the Freemasons they're interesting i don't think that's real i think it is isn't it oh yeah in history i just love oh the one from wild wild country oh the best oh the best well not the best but let you know what i mean like love it oh Jake how have you Jake how have you become so comfortable and confident online social media seems like such a scary place but i want to start posting i live in a very small town so it's not like there are influencers here at alameo any advice for a small town girl you wanting to be confident and interested online you Scott press post oh you think that's what i think about it today i literally posted that i'm tired and i just that's all i did and people love that about you because you're sharing a part of your life and then i'll tell you the only reason i post today is because i want to judge head yeah but that's kind of the reason why anyone posts exactly right that and that and people want that nowadays people don't want you to be on like the cover of a magazine right but i want to be on the cover of a magazine wow okay wait wait wait can i just say you are so online kind of only recently maybe i am online i've been trying to curate this uh mysterious persona but i just kind of showed my hand i also think kind of trying to curate a sense of mystery in real life just means you're kind of like a dish bag because you're just like that that requires effort and maintenance you instagram dump yeah yeah i do but to a point like there's a lot i don't show like what would you show on your average dump i don't know i talk about this all the time but i do really my clothes oh are you a big freshenista i'm like what's your favorite brand do you or before Jonathan Anderson or okay after so wait did you like luva before then uh do you follow him but i love his i love his i love his personal brand jw i prefer i die for jwa by favor jackal everones from jwa i i think that's interesting i used to be the same way when it comes to branding but is that because do you think it's trying to is it is it the validation thing again yeah it's like oh if i'm wearing this like i'm cool because i i i never had like nice stuff like that now they're denied when i was younger and it was i went through a phase where i was like you know i had to sort of you know like the product of loafers and stuff like that and now i kind of like i've kind of gone off of that because you're confident i don't know you kind of want to let the close i mean look what i will say is that you can buy a henley from you know the gap that looks great but then if you go somewhere like acne where it's like ten times the cost you still end up buying that Nicholas you were very tapped into pop culture in a way that i did not think you were really well i think because i i worked with like fendi for a few years i just think there's something really like magical about it i don't know and just fun and expression and clothes give you like there's no point in buying like really nice beautiful clothes like we don't need them in any way right but like it makes you feel so good when you find like a i mean an amazing jacket or whatever yeah there's no better feeling than what do you what do you think about the the met um i love it do you do you like this sort of but it makes me feel incredibly insecure oh why because i haven't been so like i feel i'd say that's coming right no way what you really think so yeah really it's all about what is in like the zeitgeist right and you're in the zeitgeist so i'd say so it's but it's it's also just who you know who who is going to dress you you know for example like i i yeah i went a couple years ago i've been working the last couple years but um would you go with fendi well i was really kind of surreal sentence to say but i fendi dressed me because i used to have a contract with them but tom Ford got my number through julienne more and asked me which is like really insane yeah and i asked me to sit next to him on his table so yeah he went with fendi and was like bye yeah no you didn't do that they didn't have like a table oh okay they just dressed you yeah they just dress me got it got it but um oh my god like what an interesting place yeah i mean it's so i met her once she's nice so nice i i really she'd also seen my the idea of you had just come out and she had seen it and she had seen it and you know well she loves and halfway down oh yeah she does you know you know they she has these people kind of like in devil's brother who who kind of go oh so and so is oh really yeah and i was walking up these long stairs like by myself kind of like terror i could see she agreed everyone well so at the top you know uh it's it's hard it was bad bunny and and christmas worth and jaylor who the the chairs you know of the year that i went and the person you know her handler whenever was like coming because i was like there's no fucking way she's gonna have any idea who i am uh but she like shoot her way i was like i saw the idea of you a couple days ago i love it me and my girl saw it um and i was kind of like expecting a version of neverways yeah was she nice to you as well lovely yeah these are very interesting people you know like why would you not want to like be in their presence and like you know absorb their their knowledge and everything like that but he said this is jake he's very funny and she said you look funny which could mean it didn't matter what i ran outside until all my friends i was like i just ran and went to where it was the sickest moment of my life wow yeah did you after party not really you don't strike me as a big party guy it's not for a long time i don't drink anymore you're sober yeah okay oh wow good for you yeah it's not like congratulations it's not like that oh it's just like you were like i'm over it yeah i was like drinking a lot and i was like can't be yeah drinking makes me feel like shit my vice my vice is weed really really bad weed's kind of like done now i feel i know but like it's not cool anymore okay well i got it but like i it makes me feel things that by the way and i think in 10 years it'll come out like there's alcoholics like they're like stoner like the word stoner will be used in the same in the same breath as alcoholism i really do think so i think it's like people were like no i like it's very addictive i'm very addicted yeah like you have to smug the sleep no no i don't know why it's just it's like it's an addiction like i'm addicted like i i i like like everything about it makes everything better i just for 10 minutes and then my whole body starts to ache do you get anxious what do you think okay okay yeah me too do i read anxious uh no you're lying you don't think i read anxious i think you read um i think you okay maybe a bit but i think it's quite good because and i think it lets you do what you do because do you do not like awkward silences i hate it okay me too and did you feel like you have to fill it with possession which means like it's perfect for what you do right would you like come back on the show i would be i would be on it i just there's it's your delivery but maybe this is why you're good at comedy i don't think have i made you laugh you have you have are you excited for your steroid shot i'm oh my god i am so excited tax me how it is i'll text you i will put you know what i'll do i'll put i'll put it on my close friends i thank you to you which you will be opposed okay but first i have to get your number in order to do that and then we'll follow each other okay on my we're like properly like being friends now but and we're not we don't even know what i really want to we'll find a time we'll find a time we'll find a time Nicholas what did we learn today uh we learned that you're very intelligent a little yeah we learned that you are you are online we yeah we learned that i'm i'm i'm i think i learned that i'm more in line than i thought i was as well mm-hmm or you think it's just an ad i you are so unlike come on i mean you had some deep cuts wait wait wait wait what were my deep cuts like if i say to you right now who's your friend where's that from Oh, I don't know that okay, okay. What is that? What if I said to you? I was supposed to be in the video Shit no, I see I don't know this kind of okay, what was that? You know, you've never seen who's your friend no? Yeah, I say you're gonna be See I can't help it cuz I know who Madness and beer is not you're so the biggest deep cut of all time I see you're gonna beat me up on Twitter all the time who's your friends? It's not even a deep cut anymore though Nicholas for you you are a 31-year-old British man. Oh my god I have no right to know that How do you know who's your friend? It's so I can't it, isn't it and who is she talking about in the who's your friend video? It's it's the guy is the fan who's been talking shit about her on Twitter. Yeah, fuck. Okay That's what we learned you are so online you see all Just like you know a god, which you play in your new movie matches of the universe out now. I Hate that a little bit That was that was amazing Okay, do you know about Debbie Ryan I? Spoke to the T.O. of Disney. Is that do it? Yeah, okay? Okay, guys, but like you look you know you know that if you if you spend like an hour Like just watching on take talk like the like the great it like you can consume all that I Promise you I'm not what about I got a little bit of blue going on. Who's that? Oh Crap, okay, I feel like I do know that for the team vote party. I got a little blue going on It's not Katy Perry, is it? Yeah, who's that sleeping Gomez? Oh, and you know who's your friend? No, but that's so because now I think I've seen a lot of people like Like do it over and over again like like like they've they've um, what's your friend? Yeah Actually my favorite video of all time. It's very good. It's very very good. Well, Nicholas Thank you, Jake. Thanks for having the airworth You're so welcome. You're so welcome. Thanks for being on the show. I've basically interviewed him for this To people usually ask you this much question. Okay. Okay. This is how he should be Conversation, right? That's what I thought and look you're happy. You had a good time and you're about you're gonna have a steroid shot I know. Okay. Wait, wait before you leave. Goodbye. Pussies

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host is launching their first podcast, feeling both excited and nervous about the format.
  2. They discuss their recent work, including filming the indie film *Return of Stanley*, and the sequel *Red, White and Royal Blue*.
  3. They reflect on their transition from rugby to acting, driven by personal challenges and a desire for authenticity.
  4. Acting experience includes films like *Bottoms* and *The Idea of You*, with emphasis on emotional honesty and overcoming ego.
  5. The conversation touches on relatability in public life, the pressure to maintain authenticity, and the role of social media.
  6. A personal anecdote about gaining weight for a role and the physical/emotional toll it took.
  7. Discussion of favorite films, TV shows, and music, with specific praise for *Severance*, *Euphoria*, and *Bonnie & Clyde*.
  8. The host shares a passion for octopus cuisine and a niche online review project that evolved into a content series.
  9. They express admiration for actors like Ryan Gosling and Jennifer Lawrence, citing their authenticity and emotional depth.
  10. A strong focus on the importance of self-compassion, bodily awareness, and honest self-reflection.
  11. The conversation ends with a proposed real-world meetup in London, combining personal connection and shared interests.

Summary:

The host, a new podcast creator, shares their journey from rugby to acting, driven by personal experience and a desire for authenticity. They discuss their work on films like *Return of Stanley* and the *Red, White and Royal Blue* sequel, highlighting emotional growth and the challenges of embodying roles, including physical transformation and emotional vulnerability. The conversation explores the pressures of public life, the struggle to remain authentic in a media-saturated world, and the importance of self-compassion.

They reflect on favorite films and TV shows—especially *Euphoria*, *Severance*, and *Bonnie & Clyde*—and emphasize emotional honesty over image. A personal anecdote about gaining weight for a role reveals the physical and mental toll of acting. The host also shares a passion for octopus cuisine and an online review project that evolved into a creative outlet.

They praise actors like Ryan Gosling and Jennifer Lawrence for their genuine, relatable presence. The discussion concludes with a warm, personal invitation to meet in London, blending shared interests and real-life connection. The tone is reflective, heartfelt, and grounded in self-awareness.

FAQs

Yes, this is my first podcast ever, and I'm excited but a bit nervous about how it goes.

My favorite movie is 'Devil's Prada' because of how well it portrays someone losing themselves in a toxic environment.

Yes, I think it's one of the best shows ever made and really captures modern workplace dynamics.

I had to bulk up quickly for a role, which involved eating a lot and gaining significant weight and fat, making me not recognize myself for months.

I don't love it. I find it irritating and the content quality is poor, and it's not something I enjoy watching.

I often whistle and make small chess pieces while listening to music, especially Bonnie & Clyde songs like '33 God' or 'The Walls'.

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