Niall Horan shares a warm, personal and humorous conversation reflecting on key moments in his life, including a chance encounter at a club, a drunken night at a dinner party, and his deep love for music, travel, and storytelling. He recounts memorable experiences such as drinking mango margaritas, attending a F1 Grand Prix in Monaco with friends, and his fascination with true crime documentaries like *The Jinx*. Niall also shares insights into his lifestyle—traveling frequently, enjoying music from the 70s and modern pop, and maintaining a grounded, slightly humorous perspective on life’s chaos. He reflects on relationships, including a meaningful dinner party incident where he left early, a moment he sees as both a personal habit and a sign of emotional freedom. The discussion transitions into a lighthearted exploration of music, with nods to favorite songs like “The Archer” and “Someday” by The Strokes, and his excitement about attending live concerts. Niall also highlights his connection to comedy and storytelling, emphasizing his love for authenticity and relatable experiences. The conversation concludes with a playful tone, blending self-deprecation, personal growth, and a genuine appreciation for shared human moments.
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Hi pussies. This week we have on Niall Horan. We are filming my intro on an iPhone because I do not
have camera. I don't have Nolan here with me. Yeah, we have no equipment. We have a phone and
a dream. So take us as we are. Take it or leave it. I have nothing of substance to tell anyone.
I do. I went to the box on Saturday and this is honestly pretty crazy.
I was chain smoking cigarettes in the club and I needed a lighter and this fabulous girl gave me a
lighter. We're at lunchtime. I'm like, I'm going to go to the box. I see her and she
goes, hi, I gave you a lighter at the box. Hello. Hi. That's Kismet. We were meant to be. I didn't
make it out Saturday night. I will say we were drinking mango margaritas at 730. Like that is
recipe to be so fucked up. The second I had my first sip of my mango margarita, I knew that I
was going to be disgusting. I said, I have to go home. I have to go home. I have to go home. And
I went home. I took myself home. Everyone was screaming. But then I kept calling him being like,
hi, are you coming back to the box? He fell asleep. And then we go to the box.
I woke up at 4am and they all came over. We are literally leaving the lights turn on. It's 430.
Jake FaceTimes us and we all went to his apartment. Any who puts ease. Jake's going out.
Jake's going away. Oh my God. Oh my God. Clear your throat for that. Big announcement. I am
going to Monaco for the Grand Prix this Wednesday. I am so excited. And want to know what he's not
doing? Bringing me and I'm the biggest F1 fan ever have been for three years. I did not have
plus one. It is me, Stas, Alex.
Alex and Stella. And that's my dream. Yeah, it's gonna be really fun. You guys are gonna have so
much fun. Lando Norris. That's who I like. I know. I know. All right, pussies. Give it up for
Hi, pussies. Welcome back to therapist. Tonight we have on Niall Horan. Hello. Hi. How's it going?
I like this. We were kind of kicking it back there for a minute. Talking about a lot. You are
hilarious. Oh my God.
I get nervous for these things. Do you really? Yeah, because I'm like, all right, but he's really
funny. So I have to try and like step up the game here. But you think I'm funny? Yeah, hilarious.
Really? No, he was laughing. He was laughing pretty hard. I kept I was like, and that one hit
too. And I kept it in. And I was like, Oh, all right. Yeah. Well, no, no, actually, people say
the opposite. Really? Some people do. Yeah. Why? Why are you so mean spirited? Oh, you know what?
Why? You know, I am one of those people, though, that this is not right. I'm not saying I'm doing
this to you. But I am one of those people that will like if someone says something and it might
not hit to the room, I'll just laugh to make them feel better. But I didn't do that to you.
A caveat. You swear? I swear. On what? My granny. Wow. Is she alive? Yes. Okay. This is going well.
Okay. So I love your setup. You like? Yeah.
Yeah, it's great. Obviously on camera and on YouTube and stuff. So but yes, well, we're on
Netflix now. I actually was scrolling through Netflix last night. And it's no, I seen you come
up and you were looking all studly in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was my hands. What were you looking for
on Netflix? What are you watching right now? What was it trying to watch? I don't know. We were
looking for. We didn't know where Wuthering Heights was. Is it out yet? I was trying to find it. I haven't
seen it yet. No, my girlfriend's what went to see it last week. And she said it was the best and
everyone's. It's like a 5050 divided divisive movie. Oh, is that true? Because all the people
are saying that it's nothing like the books. What's the book? There's a book of Wuthering
Heights. Who wrote it? I have no idea. You're asking the wrong guy. Wrong time. Not even sure.
You know what? And it doesn't really matter. No, it kind of doesn't. Okay. But that's what I was
looking for. I was looking to find that and I ended up falling asleep five minutes into it. So I didn't even see the film. Oh, okay. So that was a way
Do you watch a lot of movies? Not a big movie person, actually. TV guy? More of a like a true crime documentary. Kind of basically that's it. I don't know what that says about me. But yeah, I do love a true crime doc. What's your favorite true crime doc? The Jinx. I knew you're gonna say that. Did you watch it in real time? Yeah, me too. Yeah. And it was a killer because well, there we go. But yeah, watching that in real time waiting for the next episode was. Well, there's no better true crime documentary than the
Jinx. I've never seen a better one. Well, I just I can't believe how lucky they got as documentary makers go. Yeah, you go you set out to make a documentary and then it turns into a completely different thing. Well, he admitted to the murder. It was absolutely nuts. Did you guys watch the Jinx? No, and I gotta watch it. Well, he admits to the murder at the end of it. Why did you just tell me that? That's the thing. That's it. Yeah. And it was a big very, very big drama the next week because you remember like they were like, did they keep this from the FBI? It was very big drama. Very big.
Was it was that was the the drama on to the documentary makers? Yeah, they were like, how did you guys like is this legal that you guys kept this from the authorities in order to create good television? Right? Okay. Well, I appreciated the good television. It was good though. The whole Beverly Drive thing when he was writing and he got the spelling wrong. You remember that? Or he wrote like Beverly Drive but didn't put in or added an E or something like that. Oh, you're like you're in you're in it. That was amazing.
It was it's the best true true crime documentary ever. Did you watch Manosphere with Louis Theroux? Crazy, crazy. I couldn't get five minutes into it because I was high. I said, I can't believe I was watching five minutes and I said, I can't do this. It's just not my but to be fair, I've been writing the thick of all the promotional stuff at the moment. So I haven't seen much. How's that going? It's good. Yeah, it's like, when you turn off the engines after the end of a tour, it takes a while to start the engine back up a bit because like, you spend
a year in the studio. So I finished a tour in 24. And then end of 24. And then went into the studio, like start of last year. And he just studios easy. It's just like, you know, writing a few songs going in, doing a bit of recording. And then when you, you know, when you hand the album over, it's the engines get started. And it's like promotional back to back to back. And then you know that it's inevitably going for a tour. So it's just trying to get get your brain switched on again.
A little bit. That's okay. Do I look tired? No, no, I just feel the way you're describing it. Like I, I would crash out. Yeah, no, you're well, you're Netflix now. So yeah, you're gonna be promoting. I hope so. But this is your promotion, I guess. You know, I saw you perform heaven for the first time ever. At the Capitol showcase. No way. Yes, I was there. A little acoustic. Yes. Yes. How funny. I know. I said, Oh, that is crazy. Yes. When was that? That was like three or three years. Wow.
Yeah. So you like to golf now? I do like the golf. Yeah. Like, what's your favorite part about golfing? I like the challenge. I like the piece. What's the challenge? The challenge is just trying to get good at it. And you know, the great thing about golf is you never actually get good at it. Except Tiger Woods. Yeah, well, there's a few of them that are pretty good. No, but like, for the for the most part, I think like 60 million people in the world or something play golf. And I, I'd say like, why not?
1% of them are actually good. So the rest of us just end up suffering. But it's like you hit one bad shot. It turns you say I'm never playing again. The next shot you hit is the best shot ever. What makes a good shot? I don't know the quality of the strike when the club hits the ball, the flight path, where it lands, obviously, because it needs to get closer to the hole. And yeah, the good shots make you like, all right, I want to play more. And how long have you been doing this?
I've been doing it since for too fucking long. I've been playing since I was like, seven or eight.
What?
Yeah.
I did not know golf was a thing in Ireland.
It's one of the homes of golf.
Yeah.
No, it's like Ireland and the game was originated in Scotland. Obviously, Ireland's very close. And we have amazing golf courses and people from all over the world travel to play golf in Ireland.
And Scotland and Ireland are like sisters.
We would be.
We're not that far apart, but we would say that we were the kinds of people were very similar.
Got it.
Like the Scottish and the Irish are very, very similar.
Do you miss Ireland?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like I feel like, you know, when you're a kid and you're like, I can't wait to get out of here.
Yeah.
Like I'm for the bigger world.
And then the older you get, you're like, actually, no, I just want to go home.
Right.
So I try and get home like maybe three or four times a year.
But I just.
With the way work is, I just need to be.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I suppose it is, but not not for let's only ever for a couple of days here and there.
I need to be like I need to be in L.A. a lot.
I need to be in New York a lot.
I need to be in London.
So and I've lived in London for 16 years or something.
Have you spent any time in London?
I love London.
Yeah.
I think it's great.
I have never spent like a quality amount of time there, though.
You'd love it.
If you like it.
You're from New York.
And do you like do you still like when?
- When you go to New York, are you still like this is,
I miss this place?
It depends how I feel.
I think I have a mood disorder.
So it really depends how I feel.
Like when I'm in New York, I miss LA.
When I'm in LA, I miss New York.
Right now I miss London.
Right.
Because I was just back from New York.
So I don't miss New York.
Okay.
But I don't want to be in LA.
So right now I miss, I'm always unhappy.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm always unhappy.
You like to complain.
Do I like to complain?
Do you like to complain?
That's how this started.
Do I like to, but yeah.
What do you, Matt?
Well, I kind of like, I'm more of a complainer to try and be funny.
Like there's a comedian in the UK called Carol Pilkington.
And his whole bit is just that he just has this deadpan moany face and like just complains
about absolutely everything, but probably means none of it.
At the end of the day, I sit down, I smoke a joint and I'm like, oh God, it wasn't that
serious.
Like it really wasn't that serious.
I think what it is, is I'm bored.
Really?
I'm very
bored.
Why are you bored?
You've got the biggest fucking podcast on the planet.
Niall, shut up.
You know, you know, one of my biggest temper tantrums when I was a child ever, ever was
when I was trying to get tickets to a One Direction concert and I was on Ticketmaster
and they sold out.
And so that was the day I discovered what StubHub was.
Right.
Okay.
Where tickets are 10x the price.
And I'm.
Oh, what did you do?
My mom was like, it's okay, Jake.
We can get them on StubHub.
And I said, no, but the tickets I want, you won't get for me now because they're so expensive.
And I, man, I wasn't allowed to see One Direction.
Ever.
But now you're here.
You've never actually seen it?
No, I've never, never.
Where were you trying to go?
MetLife or something?
It was the tour you guys did after your first album.
All right.
So the amphitheater thing.
And you guys performed at my friend's bat mitzvah.
What?
Yeah.
Where?
London.
I know the one.
Because I think we only ever performed at one.
That is the most random thing of all time.
Yeah.
Did you guys have fun?
Yeah.
I'd never been at a bat mitzvah, funnily enough.
No, she said, she's like, we got so lucky.
We got them right before.
Yeah.
Literally.
As we came off the show, we did like a run of like club shows and like one bat mitzvah.
Do you relate to K-pop groups?
Do I relate to them?
Like when you see like how K-pop groups are formulated, are you like, OMG, like I feel that?
Like that's what we went through on.
I don't know.
Well, none of our bit was like super choreographed or anything like that.
So they're very different.
Each generation seems like it's got like boy bands, but they're all kind of different to each other.
Like we didn't wear all white outfits and do routines and things like say NSYNC or Backstreet
Data or whatever.
We just kind of walked around.
It worked.
It worked.
We walked around that stage.
And the K-pop thing is kind of, I guess, more structured or?
Very structured.
But like they look like athletes.
They are.
Like when you watch BTS dance, you're like, what?
Can't take your eyes off of them.
You're like, honestly, I have no idea how to do anything you're doing, but it's kind of crazy what you're doing.
Like it's pretty intense, but it's amazing.
So you like documentaries?
Love them.
I'm watching.
Excuse me.
Coffee.
I'm watching.
I'm watching.
I'm watching the Cat's Eye documentary right now.
No, you haven't seen it.
It's very interesting.
Really?
Why?
What's going on?
Like it's a really insane boot camp that they went through.
Sorry, is this product placement or can I drink this?
No, drink it.
You know who drinks that?
Who?
Do you remember the guy who did?
Are you like online?
Not really, no.
Oh, there was this guy that did the most insane morning routine and he went like super viral
and he had like 10 Saratoga waters a day.
And like his.
He broke his teeth with it.
No, but it was like 402.
Like, dude, does anyone.
Ashton Hall, yeah.
Ashton Hall.
Yeah.
I need to have a look.
He would like dip his face in the Saratoga water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He would pour the Saratoga water in and that's how I know what Saratoga is, but it's worked.
It's great.
Is that your favorite water?
No, I just seen it there and I was, I actually thought it would have been product placement
as part of the Netflix deal or something.
But I'll tell you what is product placement.
Actually, is this Poppy?
Is this product placement?
Poppy?
What's Poppy?
What?
Please don't, don't shame me.
But you're lying though.
I live under a rock.
I'm not going to like.
But you've.
No.
It was acquired by Pepsi for $2 billion.
Wow.
I love Poppy.
I love Poppy so much.
I'm just saying like you've never had a Poppy ever in your life.
Never, never, never.
No, you're going to let me have one or.
Oh, okay.
You like Shirley Temple?
Wait.
Oh my God.
I've never met someone that's never had a Poppy before.
Really?
Ever.
Okay.
So.
I definitely live under a rock.
That's brilliant.
Bring out the flavors.
Bring them out.
Oh my God.
I'm so excited for you.
I'm going to have a Super Bowl commercial.
I did.
Did you?
For Poppy.
No, you did not.
Yes, I did.
Next year, me and you.
Yeah.
Don't play with me.
I'm serious.
I'll pitch it tomorrow.
I imagine I've never even tasted this and I've already given myself a Super Bowl commercial.
Okay.
So, okay.
Oh, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.
Okay.
So I have a Shirley right here.
What is it?
Like a fruity, sparkly water?
It's a better for you.
It's a better for you soda.
This is the launch of the new product.
Is that the Christmas version?
This is the Christmas version.
It's called Cranberry Fizz.
Right.
I can try that.
This is Shirley Temple.
Shirley Temple.
And this is Strawberry Lemon.
Can I try the Cranberry Fizz, please?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks.
Poppy, you're having a great time now.
It's pretty amazing.
They sell this only during Christmas.
Imagine if they sold it year round with like.
They can't because it's so popular.
It's a better for you soft drink.
You like it?
It's got prebiotics.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot to tell you if I liked it or not.
Let me check again.
You can be honest.
I actually do.
Yeah, it's amazing, right?
We've got Saratoga and Poppy well covered now.
I can't believe I just took your Poppy Virginity.
I'm really shocked.
I've really never met somebody that hasn't tried one before.
I swear I've never even heard of it.
So you don't leave the house much?
No, not really.
No, no.
Has it made it over to the UK?
Yeah.
Because that's even more embarrassing.
Poppy is global.
All right.
We're going global.
We're going global, baby.
I love the.
Well, okay.
Do you know what I love?
I love about the UK.
That store, Marks and Spencers.
Yes.
Yeah.
We were only talking about this yesterday.
What's your favorite thing to get from there, food-wise?
They do like a piece of cheese, long kind of rectangular piece of cheese wrapped in like
Serrano ham or something like that.
And they also do these like, again, chorizo wrapped in, cheese wrapped in chorizo as well.
Oh, that's like right up her alley.
Oh, yeah?
They do like.
She loves like.
Meat sticks.
We call it like picky bits.
So if you're going into like, into the store and there's like.
Picky bits?
Yeah, picky bits.
Just like, I'm not having a full meal here.
I'm just trying to get a few picky bits.
You know, something to just pick at.
We call them picky bits.
Oh, I've never heard that.
Is that like an Irish thing?
No, I feel like it's just like, I don't, I actually don't even know what it is.
I've just, maybe I just made it up.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's snacks.
Yeah.
It's a, it's a picky bit.
I would think snack is like, sweet or like, chips or something like that.
I would think, when I think snacks, I think something like that.
Okay.
In America, it's a completely different thing.
Right.
Where I'm thinking savory, like cheese wrapped in ham.
What's your favorite Irish food?
Favorite Irish food?
Mm-hmm.
I don't really know what they're known for.
Yeah, neither do I.
I know, my whole upbringing was like meat and potatoes.
It was very like, very like, we do a stew.
Have you ever had like a.
I love stew.
Good Irish stew.
Like.
With like, a piece of beef or lamb.
Like beef stroganoff?
Not really.
More like gravy-esque.
Like a gumbo?
Not like gumbo.
I suppose the Irish version of gumbo.
Gumbo is not great.
No.
There's a few, there's quite a few things in this country I can't wrap my head around.
You don't like gumbo?
No.
You know, one time I had gumbo four times in 24 hours.
Really?
Where were you?
Nola.
Were you high?
I, nope.
No.
No.
I wasn't.
How sad is that?
I wasn't even smoking at the time.
And I had it for breakfast.
I had it for lunch.
I had it for dinner.
And I had it three times in one day.
And then the next morning I was like, well, I can't leave without having it one more time.
And I had it again.
It's my favorite food in the entire world.
Yes.
What do you not like about gumbo?
What does it consist of again?
It's like thick.
It's like a chowder, no?
Yeah.
And like, there's sausage.
I don't really fuck with it when there's like crawfish or shrimp.
I like just like sausage and chicken and over a bed of jasmine rice.
You can have it with rice.
Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
What are you thinking of?
I don't know what the fuck I'm thinking of.
I thought we were, I thought it was in the chowder world.
Like, is it not like a, like a.
It is.
What's the creamier chowder?
Clam chowder.
New England, is it?
Yeah.
New England.
Yeah.
I thought it was more of a New England chowdery type thing that had some other weird stuff
in it.
That is what it is.
Oh, right.
Maybe I do like it.
But it's like red.
Maybe I love it.
No, it doesn't.
You're backpedaling.
You're backpedaling.
I've done well on this so far.
Wait, I'm happy to have a call with you.
Any endorsement coming my way, now I'm going to have a.
Yeah, well, we're doing a Super Bowl commercial for Poppy together.
Yeah, here we go.
What are you therapist about today?
Therapist about today?
Yeah, it doesn't seem like much.
You seem pretty jolly.
No, I'm a pretty, I'm pretty chill, to be honest with you.
What pissed me off today?
That's the traffic, LA traffic is a fucking disaster.
What'd you listen to on the way over here?
I don't know what I listened to.
We actually went in silence for once.
Really?
We usually listen to music all the time, but you know, when you're in the car so much and you just like, all right, could do with a half an hour with the just quiet.
it i know that's not a great answer but that's the truth we actually just sat there and you were
angry about your journey to come see me today yeah yeah are you i take it all back i'm having
a great time i'm having a great time too yeah absolutely we just covered the whole world
we really did we've covered everything we haven't even started is ad sharon song castle on a hill
about ireland no i love how you pivot from question it's cracking me up i uh no it's not
it's about a castle in his village i will tell you this we went to his wedding and he got married
near his where the village where he he's from brought up and then lives in now and sam smith
and i drove down and we stayed in uh we stayed in like a hotel above a pub
you
in middle of this village very cute quintessentially english village and the two of us were getting
into the car and we looked up and there was this big castle on the hill and we had a whole
revelation that that's the fucking castle on the hill oh it's real oh it's real when i was six
years old i broke my leg yeah you know the castle on the hill yeah and we're like fuck that's the
castle is there a place to roll down the hill i think so yeah where he broke his leg he broke
his leg
when he's six years old it really is with his brothers and his friends yeah yeah is that your
favorite ed sheeran song yeah i do love it yeah i love that one too i think that's my favorite
what other songs do you like about churns uh tenor life c love tenor if c we have the same
taste than ed sheeran oh yeah i think i said it wrong though what did you say tenor life tenor
life tenor reef um supermarket flowers always hits yeah so you like you like the earlier ed
sheeran stuff i love you know what i actually really like eyes closed good tune really good
one and i really like what uh old phone have you heard old phone great great i'm pretty sure you
were in some of the promo for that he was yeah yeah oh my god when he pulled that photo out i
was like jesus because that was probably the last period where he had his phone and we were in vegas
that was him when i think about that night it was the most rant i think i was there for like my
it was either because i went like three years in a row i went for my 21st my 22nd
for some weird reason and then we went back maybe it was around
one of the billboard awards or something like that and we're in a nightclub um and i think
i don't know who's dj maybe it was like diplo or chain smokers or something like that but the yeah
i was up on all of a sudden got so drunk that i was up on the dj but this this is the least
me thing of all time up on a dj booth with like expensive bottles of champagne with ed sheeran
ed's got like a cigarette hanging out of his mouth and there's we're spraying the crowd with
champagne and little john is just on the microphone going like making little john type noises right
and i was just like it was the most sobering thing i was drunk and then all of a sudden i was like
what the fuck is going on right got the chain smokers dj in here playing edm bangers you got
ed sheeran little john and me up on the fucking dj booth spraying people with champagne it sounds
like the start of a joke but was it like the
ed sheeran nile horn and little john walk into a bar what happened what happens apparently that
did you was it sobering in the sense that you were like oh i don't i'm having anxiety or was
it sobering in the sense of like wow my life is so fun and cool fun and cool and like why am i here
like what like this is nuts and i've obviously i'd known ed for a long time but the whole fact
that we were up there with little john and just like a nightclub in vegas just feels so far removed
from my upbringing and the way i generally live my life right i'm just like i'm just like i'm just
up there going this is fucking crazy uh but yeah i don't know if it's that's not the first chapter
of my book by the way i can tell better stories than that but it is pretty nuts do you remember
like feeling that way when you were doing x factor or do you or were you so in it that
after is when it all hit yeah i think it like i've just been i'm one of those people that i'm
just happy to be there like yeah like i was just the whole time i never really like took it serious
i wasn't like trying to be super serious i was trying to enjoy it i've always tried to enjoy like
every single thing that i do and just kind of take things with a pinch of salt and let it all kind of
just go on by um yeah we i think my whole career i've just been walking around just going this is
wild and how the hell did i ever get to this point um which makes it more fun and interesting i
suppose instead of just being walking around going yeah i'm meant to be here and um i also
think like there is a part to play with the the irish upbringing of like i'm sure yours is kind
of similar in new york we're kind of we're a bit hardier and you're not allowed to kind of get
above your station what do you mean by that like if you get any way ahead of yourself there's always
something you get humbled yeah you get humbled you don't get too you don't get along to act like
a dickhead people will get you put you back in your place do you remember a time that that happened
not necessarily because i think it's just in my in my bones to not you humble yourself kind of yeah
i'm sure there are like day-to-day things like we were talking about where you complain about the
most minimal stuff and then go you look at yourself and you go what the fuck was i doing
yeah so i by the way wow right because i'm not like a i'm not like a soft drink person right i
drink like four or five liters of water a day do you really yeah oh i need to get on that four or
i got the bags under my eyes from drinking four liters of water you actually don't have bags under
your eyes i've got these like you know the crow's feet what's it you know these things do you get
botox ever no never never i don't think it will either i got botox the other day did you go like
this no it's not it's in my neck so i can't like i can't that's the farthest i can do it why is it
in your neck because louise brought me to get an aqua gold facial right and so i was like what is
this and they were like we're injecting botox into your face for clear skin
so it's not like filler i was like ah you know i've really been interested in masseter botox
master of botox is the one in your jaw right and they were like oh yeah we have that and i was like
really and they were like yeah do you want it and i was like yeah i guess it was louise's friend from
college did the injecting and was that your first time oh yeah it's like getting a spray tan you
ever got a spray tan years ago did it for for the x factor one time actually funnily enough we got
all holes down oh my god you guys got spray tan yeah you don't see the color of us no i did on the
tv i did i did you're like your shirt i know what what episode was it for finale i think at the very
start maybe and then we just kept getting topped up so it got more and every week do you have a
one-direction song do i have a favorite one-direction song i have loads of favorites
one-direction songs um i love fireproof
fireproof great one so you're a big 1d fan yes yes it was i was trying to make it my first
concert and my mom and i got into a really big fight and i couldn't go i was really upset how
old are you yes 26 yes did i get that right yes you did fuck off swear oh nailed it um
so you were so you know if i remember if i start naming deep cuts are you gonna know yes
diana my okay all right you know i know okay that's because that's deep yeah i was on lime
wire are you yes in the computer lab at school i was really tapped in i was really really really
tapped in so when you were meant to be doing work in the computer lab i mean i was like in sixth
grade so like what work could i have been doing but yes i was very tapped in it was right when
everything took off obviously night changes is my favorite one yeah night changes is probably
the best song song if you were to like break down how to write the you know you wrote that no you
guys all partook in writing that yeah yeah yeah what do you find most different about writing
for a group versus writing for yourself um well you've got complete lyrical say what you want um
same with the music side of things because when you've got like four or five you know you got
five different personalities trying to like pitch in with their you know their music taste their
what you want to say and what you don't want to say the sound of the record you know that's that's
so good that we actually were able to combine in that way um i just i like doing the because when
i pick up a guitar i naturally do something so i you know if it's for me i find it very easy to just
go here it is this is what i want to say this is how it's going to sound uh two very different
things but both as enjoyable i just like i used to just love writing with the boys because
it felt like a jam it felt like a like a high school band type thing where we were all just
sitting around shouting lyrics at each other and melodies and ideas and things
it worked how did night changes come about do you remember who had the original idea for that
well the original idea came from a guy called jamie scott who also wrote um also wrote story
of my life he john ryan and julian bonetta they had this basic idea and then we came in and like
started writing the verses and stuff with them um but yeah it's such good like it's it's probably
the best song um or um one thing
one do you like one oh you're early early one thing was always my favorite over i loved what
makes you beautiful but one thing really did it for me the music video what was the music video
again you were all like it was a
london yeah we're kind of going around the city it was you were on a uh a bus weren't you and then
we were in a park which i actually ended up living around the corner from and anytime i'd go and get
my coffee i'd be like there's the that's where you want them um we were on trafalgar square playing
the song and did you film those videos before everything took off those videos are what made
you guys take off besides being on x factor right yeah no we when did we so we finished the show in
december 2010 and then just like went straight to the studio we were in sweden a lot basically
spending as much time as we could there with like rami yakub and savan katecha and carl falk these
big writers and they they brought what makes you beautiful to the table and then we just started
we filmed the video at malibu for that and then we what was the second then one thing was second
maybe yeah yeah you tell me i know it's been a while um and then we just shoot shoot videos as
you go but
they were always really good the videos like uh fire story of my life video fire yeah the ideas
were always like amazing you guys have like creative input into that or were you just pitched
ideas a lot of the time you would get pitched an idea for a music video anyway unless you had
something really profound but the the story of my life one kind of was like a conversation between
us and ben winston the the director and yeah we were like we you know you get the gut the the guts
of an idea and then start like breaking it down and then we were like yeah we were like we were
but yeah the story of my life video is such a such a good concept especially for a song for
called story of my life but um yeah what are my other favorites i like fireproof i like
um i like stockholm syndrome of course um i like a lot i think story of my life is
one of my favorites too i like have you ever heard of a song called never enough
yes has loads of trumpets on it what's my i need my phone there's not it's not diana
it's not um midnight memories but it's on the midnight memories album
and i'll tell you right now my favorite diana best song ever best song ever yeah because it's
the best song yeah it is i remember hearing that song for the first time and it was so different
than anything that was out there at the time yeah i remember hearing it straight away and i was like
oh now this is good i i i remember recording i remember because we did it we used to record
all the time on the road so it was like literally in hotel rooms with mattresses we
flipped the mattresses and we'd flip the mattresses and we'd flip the mattresses and
the beds up against the wall to create like soundproofing in every hotel in the planet
really and we would just like make the albums and come off stage record vocals do vocals in the
afternoon you work you worked and you you didn't do that for this upcoming album no you got off
tour yeah yeah and so when did this dinner party take place because this album you the concept is
you met your now girlfriend at a dinner party yeah that you hosted yeah because you don't leave the
house yeah it was about five and a bit years ago um and yeah we just literally was having some
friends over and a friend of mine was there and he was a mutual friend turns out to my now
girlfriend and we were just having a few drinks eating whatever and then he was like do you mind
if a friend of mine comes over um with a friend of hers and then we got chatting she came in i
always
offered her a drink we got chatting and then that's it and now you're together and that's it
is she like so like flattered that you've made this whole album about her it's funny because like
when you get asked in an interview what's the song about it's obviously about my my girlfriend
right you know meeting my girlfriend at a dinner party but the whole my whole last album's about
her as well really i just didn't get questioned on it yes as much um we do live like a quite like a
under under a rock
type life we like live quite a private life outside of but now that the album is uh dinner
parties come out and people are talking about it you know i am talking about it a lot more but we
generally do live quite a private life what are you most excited for people to experience on the
album like no i think it's an album of like yeah love and romance and then all of the little bits
in between like the doubts and the
mm-hmm
the fear of losing that person are like the 10 ways i can fuck this up you know what i mean i've
got a song for each of them um and also like the the fun small moments and yeah fear loss
fear of loss loss romance love are probably the the four pillars of the album and like i just want
like like i do with all of my songs because i i write in detail to a point because i think there's
nothing worse than listening to to music that you can't connect to the lyric at all you're like i can
see what they're trying to get at but i wasn't there i don't understand what happened you think
the more specific you get the more specific it becomes to someone else's life because they're
narrowing and all that feeling yeah well yeah it comes very specific to my life if i write very
specific lyrics about the color of the walls and the we were at that dinner in this restaurant and
that street and the you know that kind of stuff yeah
trying to get your point across and making it universal to the listener so they can attach
their own emotion like and how that attached a story in their life to that song like all of the
best songs of all time like we don't know what goes on in adele's life right but because we can
connect to the songs because she's just laid it out and told you know she's made it relatable to
everybody oh yeah do you know what i mean it's all so good yeah she's ridiculous she's so good
somewhat what is it someone like you best one of the best breakup songs of all time i mean
and she has this she's this knack to be like you feel angry for her yeah or with her yeah
or you because you feel like you are her do you know what i mean you see yourself in her that's
all that's all great songs uh yeah exactly and like the but yeah the best songs kind of
you can attach to what's your favorite song of all time
top three i mean bridge over troubled waters is genius
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I love Fleetwood Mac. If someone would say, if you could write a song, what song would you have
written? And I'd say Dreams because it feels like. The stuff I love to play. Like if I was to pick up a guitar, I would strum in that pattern. I would,
you know, because of Fleetwood Mac and I think Dreams is like encapsulates all of that.
So I would say Dreams or Desperado by the Eagles.
Oh yeah. I read that you loved the Eagles.
I love the Eagles.
So you're like in, you listen to older music.
Yeah. I grew up on like seventies, like rock and roll from Laurel Canyon. All of that,
Fleetwood Mac, the Eagles.
Yeah.
Crosby, Stills and Nash and all the Doobie Brothers and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So I have a,
I have an old, older taste in music.
Mine is more new.
Really? Why are you listening to?
Like right now I'm on a really big Ariana kick.
Really?
Really big, like hardcore. Like Thank You, Next Era.
Right. Okay.
I think it's one of the best breakup albums of all time.
Have you ever listened to it front to back?
No, I haven't actually. I would just probably listen to the singles.
Well, you're in love. So I don't know if you'll like relate to it.
Right. Okay.
But like Louise and I are not.
Right.
And so we listened to Thank You, Next, front to back on our drive back from Boston. And I-
You drove back from Boston?
What?
Yeah, we were, yeah.
Oh, to New York.
To New York.
But you know, I did.
I used to take road trips to LA from New York with my dad and my brother when I was a kid.
Really?
Yes.
You've done that?
Multiple, multiple, multiple times.
How long does that take?
Five days.
Non-stop?
Yeah.
Would you stay, like, at nighttime?
We would stay at, like, just, we would take the Midwestern route is the fastest.
Whatever hotel my dad picked.
That is crazy.
I loved an Embassy Suites.
Really?
Yeah, they had the best breakfast.
They had the best breakfast.
Buffet or a la carte?
Buffet.
Yeah.
And they had a really good waffle machine.
Yeah.
And at the Embassy Suites, if you stayed at a good one, they had a glass elevator.
Glass elevator.
And I loved those.
I loved the way we'd, like, walk through the door and be like, glass elevator.
Yeah, and that was, like, my favorite thing.
One time we had to move hotels in the middle of the night because there was bed bugs.
Really?
That was, you know.
What were we talking about?
Embassy Suites.
Oh, yeah.
I remember staying in a, in a.
Holiday Inn and went to see my cousins in Boston one time.
And they had a waffle machine.
I'd never had waffles in my life.
It's awesome, right?
They're, like, sweet breakfasts are not a thing in Ireland.
I don't like sweets.
So, like, that's why I think I'd like Ireland.
Yeah, we don't, like, the sweet with the savory thing at breakfast in America is one of the most dumbfounding things of all time.
I remember seeing the waffle machine for the first time and being like, what the?
It's pretty electric.
This is nuts.
Yeah, and it beep.
It beeps, flip, and then you pop it out.
It's awesome.
Beep, flip.
Yes.
So, do you have beans for breakfast a lot in Ireland?
Yeah, yeah, beans, yeah.
Beans, sausages, bacon.
Love sausage.
Beans, sausages, bacon, mushroom, hash brown.
We have this thing called black pudding, which is apparently made out of pig's blood.
And it's stunning.
It's beautiful.
Maybe you need to have a full, go to Ireland or London or, and have a full English or Irish breakfast.
What is black?
I've seen the black pudding.
And I've strayed.
No, no, you'd like it.
So, sell me on it.
Like, I sold you on Poppy.
How was your Super Bowl commercial, by the way?
It was great.
It was just, it was very exciting.
Sometimes, I mean, you know, like, things happen and you're like, I can't believe this is happening.
We did a Super Bowl commercial years ago with Drew Brees, who's a player who played for the New Orleans team, Saints.
Yeah, the Saints.
And it was for Pepsi.
Iconic.
And we were, I was just, like, I don't know.
Anything about American football, really, at this point.
NFL, or what do you call it?
Football.
Yeah, football.
Football.
Don't know much about football at all.
But I know who Drew Brees is.
And I know what Pepsi is.
And I know exactly what the Super Bowl is.
And I knew what a Super Bowl commercial was, of course.
And I just remember being like, all right, this is, this is some big time stuff.
So, I'm happy for you for getting your Poppy commercial.
Thank you.
It was really, it was, and I just did another one.
Did you?
I'll show it to you after.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It was really cool.
Oh, my God.
We're getting all of the tea here.
Have you ever worked with, have you ever worked with Dave Myers?
Oh, I have never, but I've obviously.
He's awesome.
He directed it.
Really?
Yeah.
I feel like it, for what?
For this?
Yeah.
And I made him, because he directed the music video for Taylor Swift's Me.
And have you ever seen the Miss Americana documentary?
Yep.
Okay, you know when she's, like, looking at the monitor, and she's having a conversation
with Dave Myers, and they just, like, have a back and forth?
Yep.
And I made him recreate that with me.
No, you didn't.
Yeah, I did.
I love that song, by the way.
Me?
Miss Americana.
Oh, best!
That might be her best one.
Really, you think?
Is that your favorite?
Yeah, the melody in it is so good.
She's.
Oh, she's a master at melodies.
And me.
Me's a good song, too, but.
Me's great.
I love.
You and me.
I love that line.
Play stupid games, you and stupid prizes.
It's you and me.
That's my whole world.
Miss Americana and the heartbreak grind.
Okay.
That one.
Banger.
Banger.
I remember it has my favorite song of all time.
Have you ever heard The Archer?
Yeah.
It's my favorite song of all time.
I love The Archer, too.
Yeah.
Let's talk about favorite songs of all time.
That.
Someday by The Strokes.
Are you going to go and see The Strokes?
Why, yes, I am.
At Coachella?
I am.
I think this comes out after Coachella.
It does.
How was The Strokes?
I think it was good.
I can't remember it.
But every time, I'm always at a music festival, and The Strokes are always there, and I always
am there for their first half of their show.
And then my friend makes me leave, and I always miss Someday.
It's such a shame.
And Someday is my favorite song of all time.
And you're a New Yorker, so you get it.
The Strokes are so New York, but they've inspired so many, any sort of rock music from around
that time since.
It's just because of The Strokes, really.
You know what I just got into?
Just now.
Never heard them before a day in my life besides one song.
It's offensive.
Radiohead.
What?
Only just got in?
Just got in.
To be fair, I didn't know what Poppy was before this.
And then I called Louise, and I said, have you ever heard Radiohead?
And she said, yes, she said, because she was very depressed in high school.
Oh, jeez.
I mean, he's a genius, Tom York.
What's the worst dinner party you've ever been to or ever hosted?
Oh, fuck it now.
Dinner parties are. To be honest, I can't with dinner parties.
Dinner parties.
Really?
They're only a new thing for me.
I feel like you, like, before, like, I met my girlfriend, the thoughts of having people
around was, no.
It's just miserable.
But now that I'm getting older and I have a dog and a house, like, you slowly do.
You're 20, what did we say?
26.
Right.
We got to 26, okay.
But my thing is with dinner parties is, like, I'm in and out of a meal, so, like, I would
go to dinner after, and I kind of, like. Like, the one luxury I really, like, allowed myself to indulge in was just getting up and
leaving dinner.
Oh, really?
What, and leaving everyone behind?
Yes.
That's some diva shit.
What?
Yeah.
Are you serious?
I'm going.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
You can't do that.
That's proper Irish goodbye stuff.
Uh-huh.
What?
I didn't think that that was rude.
I was like, we've all had a long day.
I've been on stage for a few hours.
I got to go.
To be fair, now, if we're at home, I will sometimes just, like, I don't know, pick,
I'm finished first.
I'll pick up my plate and, like. That is not the same thing.
But, like, leaving a restaurant and leaving everyone behind.
Well, I would pick one person.
To bring with you.
I'd say. You have to come with me.
I would say, Louise, let's go.
Right.
Or I'd say, Manny, let's go.
And then, Louise, because she works with you, has to fucking stand up and go, all right,
I will. No, sometimes. Even though I want to stay here.
No, sometimes she'll be like, I'm staying.
And then I'll say, okay, so, Manny, come on.
So good.
But Manny's always. But the thing about Manny is Manny's. I feel like I know Manny.
Why do you say that?
Manny, come here right now.
She said. She said no.
Okay.
You want to know why you feel like you may know Manny?
Because this. This is Manny.
And you.
Holy shit.
I imagine I zoomed in myself first just to see how bad it was that year.
Which one?
Oh, there she is.
That's the girl I met outside.
Oh, my God.
Where is that, Manny?
First stadium.
What's it in LA?
Oh, my God.
But that's why you feel like you know Manny.
Right.
Okay.
That's why I know Manny.
And that is why I hate dinner parties.
So you just go, come on, Manny, we're going.
And that's it.
And then everyone just left.
No.
Yeah.
Here's my thing.
Have you picked up the bill at this point?
I pick up the bill every time.
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
So at least you paid so people can't go, why does he leave all the time?
Well, here's my thing.
I know that they've now dealt with me the entire day.
Yeah.
I know it's not that serious if I get up and leave.
They, like, I, like, I'm sure they don't need, they don't, right?
You want me to say, I mean, that's a rock and a hard place.
Right.
Like, you know, they, they're definitely down for like a, like, you know, like he's gone.
Like, we don't need to, like, deal with it.
We've had enough.
We've had enough.
Right.
I mean, especially my, you know, if, do you have a good tour manager?
Yes.
Paul.
He's out there.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, we, I stick around.
I don't, no, you can't just be, unless I've got, unless we have, like, work early the
next morning, I love to stick around.
You do?
Yeah.
My thing is, I just, I'm like, ah, like, I don't know how to describe it.
I just, I have to leave.
Well, you're claustrophobic, aren't you?
Yeah.
What, do you get a bit, like, antsy?
I just get, like, hot.
I get hot, and I get, like, I'm like, oh, my God, like, I need to, like, go get naked
and be in bed.
No, what I'll do is I'll try and convince everyone that we should all leave.
Oh, no, I leave.
No, I, like, because I actually really don't like sitting there for, you know, when you've
had dinner, and then the conversation then starts when the dinner's finished.
Do you know what I mean?
And then you're sitting around for ages, and you'd have another few drinks and talk crap,
and, like, in a public setting, I hate, I just have to, like, once we've eaten, you're
full.
All right, that's why we came here.
Let's leave.
Let's go.
Yeah.
So we are aligned.
Kinda.
But I'll do more, like, does anyone not just, like, think that we should just, you know,
like, that we've done, you know, I'll do a lot of that kind of complaining.
I'm learning a lot about you.
All right, cheers.
I'll do a lot of complaining to the point where people go, yeah, do you know what?
You might be right.
Let's go.
Right.
Instead of just getting up and leaving.
My saying is, I gotta get out of here.
I gotta get out of here.
That's what I say every time.
And we get up.
I get up.
with Manny and we leave, but what I was saying was,
manny and i are like soul sister twin flames in the sense that like we're always happy to be
together like it really is always just the two of us right manny i do have to bring up our mutual
friend tucker tucker oh what a legend he's such a nice guy um that's how i first seen terrapus was
when he was on it years ago really yeah when was that a couple years ago yeah it was like two years
yeah so i watched um but yeah he he we went to his gig in um in london which actually near was
near my house and lewis capaldi had done sally the night before and then i did sally and sally
happens way too late in the gig because by the time i got on stage i was hammered i wonder how
he came up with that i don't know have you ever been sally are you lying is this a no what i live
on
under a rock am i missing something i just wonder how he came up with it oh my god it was you that
started sally oh fuck no it's okay oh my god no one knows oh when you said i wonder how he no one
knows no one knows i was talking to shibuzi the other night i was like how did he come up with
that he was like i really don't know and for this went on for like a solid 10 minutes because he
does not tell anyone yeah but it happens sally's too late in the set because i by the time i got
there like it was like i think it was like a like a tuesday
night or something and you know school night and i was just like bananas drunk because i just was
like drinking throughout the gig and then all of a sudden it was like sally's start and i was like
oh fuck now i have to go out here and pretend do you seem like the most fun drunk ever right do you
think i want to drink with you all right because we should definitely go for a drink you want to
go for a drink yeah like not right now obviously but like no 100 we should well we live close by
somewhat yeah well we'll get we'll get we'll get the gang together and see um but yeah tucker i
really enjoyed it
enjoyed him he was such a nice fella he um then we we made him we took him out the stage door of
the concert uh-huh oh yeah that's what it was lewis came back the second night because i was doing it
so he came he went to two of tucker shows and uh we had a few drinks in the bar afterwards and then
we took tucker out the backstage door uh-huh the fans were kind of in a different spot and we took
him around and then forced him to get on a bus after like a red bus in london after the show we
didn't have a bar in my in my basement i've heard and uh yeah we had a few and then all of a sudden
you look at the fucking clock and it's four in the morning and we're all but he's not a big boozer
though should we call him yeah let's call tucker so hold on you need to tell me the original do
you know what you should do call tucker and make him tell the original sally story yeah see if he
says you're a fan yeah does he know you're here no i can't tell if i want you to call him or if i
want you to call him or if i want you to call him or if i want you to call him well
your call has been
best friends forever
we're trying again
your call has been oh even faster
wow that sally didn't go well do it
you call him now
all right
well he just probably knows when you call him because you probably text him
and he just knows that if you're calling them it's we talk all the time right but if you call
him when you're talking see he knows you're doing a podcast with someone oh that's the british ring
ring yeah
hello sir hello tucker
is this a test it's actually rude though i think you're actually rude
i love that's part but you declined it like you actually actively pressed no
yeah see that's hollywood that's some star shit that's crazy
that's crazy
you're gonna learn you gotta climb the ropes
he's actually he's he's genuinely like visibly vexed yeah i'm upset
um we were trying you know we were trying to get to the bottom of tucker we were trying
to get to the bottom of who is the original sally was it finn was it finn or was it jake
this little boy in uh austin texas and it was his birthday and he has it was him okay god bless him
he started it okay jake is sitting here with a very sour face seems to believe i know what to
say to you right now honestly tucker right i think you need he just might not yeah he might
not have his vape on him so if you're getting his vape like a dummy
oh my you know
i have been thinking about it now that you mention it so
jake was the original sally jake was the original sally that's all i want to hear
it's true he just he needed that because we should all go for a drink huh
all right i gotta go now you can call me
bye tucker see ya
what's going on here he said tell me what's wrong okay so the pussy's right in okay and they tell us
what's wrong okay so the pussy's right in okay and they tell us what's wrong okay so the pussy's
wrong and we give them advice okay and then we prescribe them a remedy we prescribe them
gotcha gotcha gotcha oh and they can get messy case in point i'm falling in love with my best
friend's boyfriend oh i know i know i know he's just so sweet and takes care of both of us
and he's always around because we live together and he's alluded to that he thinks i'm pretty a
couple of times i would never do that to my best friend but their relationship is seemingly coming
to its end maybe they're always together and he's always around because we live together and he's
always fighting and I'm wondering how bad it would be to start talking to him after it would be
atrocious so what's your prescription uh stop yeah stop I would prescribe maybe um
finding dick elsewhere okay okay that's your prescription I don't know yeah that's really bad
yeah I don't think you can do I would watch like maybe the scandal of all episodes of Vanderpump
rules euphoria right you watch euphoria no I've never actually watched euphoria I need to watch
that actually it's really good it's giving euphoria right okay and there's a scene in euphoria
you won't know what I'm talking about but maybe this person will where Maddie looks at Cassie
because Cassie is hooking up with Nate sorry spoiler alert and uh and Maddie Cassie's like so
depressed I forget what happens but like she's like so down bad about Nate and this is after she
already is with him after Maddie breaks up with him and Maddie looks at her and goes I hope you enjoy
it this is your life now oh and I would prescribe that scene of euphoria right oh there you go that's
the prescription right and it's a good one too at that that scene of euphoria I need to watch euphoria
to be fair do you do you watch any scripted television do you have a life no you you do
but I'm wondering if you watch like do you watch like I'm wondering if we have watched similar shows
um I like Peaky Blinders have you ever watched Peaky Blinders no I haven't but that checks out
for you what else do I like oh shit
I like White Lotus of course yeah um love that show that's probably one of my favorites um
I can't think on the spot I hate I hate being put on the spot okay I'm so sorry move on okay
my roommate got broken up with and is taking it very hard I was there for her and supported her
for the first couple of days but it's been like three or four weeks and she's still like moping
leaving shit everywhere being messy crying loudly never doing anything with me etc do I
continue to support her or is it time for some tough love both oh bit of both yeah bit of both
yeah thank you next by Ariana Grande so she's she's she's continuing to support currently
is that what she says she just needs to be like I understand you're sad but it's been four weeks
like I would watch Legally Blonde because you know in the opening scene of Legally Blonde she's like
so depressed mopey mopey mopey and then like she finds a passion right so just encourage your
friend to find a new passion correct I think uh it depends how long the relationship was too yeah
sometimes we miss context here yeah that's what we're into yeah no if the relationship's long
four weeks is not a lot yeah well you know people say that you grieve double the amount of time you
or what is it you grieve half the time yeah it's I know what you mean yeah what's your prescription
it's thank you next by Ariana Grande start to finish right start to finish it's the best
bit of tough love that or um I would say back to black it's a great breakup album which it is but
it's more like that'll encourage her mopiness
yeah okay you know because like that's just it like Ariana gets over the break okay I woke up at
4 a.m on the concrete outside of a strip club last weekend with literally no idea how I got there
I talked to my friends afterwards and they were telling me I told them I was going home and got
an uber help this is crazy behavior and I need to know if that's bad enough to seek help I will say
it's an isolated incident sent in by Jake and it is just a time of reflection it's a time of
reflection where you're like wow I should not be drinking the way I'm drinking the way I'm drinking
yeah no the the the hangovers well I wonder how old this person is but the hangovers when you get
to a
certain age are dreadful it's not even so they're actually scary when my hangovers now are are more
so mental yeah physical i can i can cure that the mental gymnastics i do each morning after waking
up of going out and drinking is just you know what for me it's not day one it's day two really why
day one is just like i'm actually happy that sometimes being hungover is kind of being hungover
it's great like eating shit sleeping whatever what's your dream hangover day
11 a.m mcdonald's when the main menu starts not the breakfast menu you wow yeah sometimes you're
sat there mcdonald's doesn't serve regular food 24 7 i thought there was the there that was their
whole bit no i think they don't start the main menu until 11 o'clock which is you have to wait
so are you sure yeah i'm pretty sure i'm right wow i don't think so is that not true yeah i think
they do it's
only the breakfast menu that has an isolated time for it so you've been i think they hang over
snack wraps at like well maybe it's a new breeds thing then yeah maybe maybe maybe it's totally
it could be a new breeds thing okay so you so you 11 a.m you order mcdonald's 11 a.m so i can't sleep
once i've had a drink whether i've gone to bed at 2 a.m or 11 p.m i'm waking up at 7 or 8 and i'm
one of those people that thinks i have to get up and do something and then wait for 11 order mcdonald's
then have a nap between you know 12 and 3 or 4 get back up for first dinner call it first dinner
dinner number one dinner number one usually maybe another type of burger maybe like a chick-fil-a or
something like that or some sort of like a sandwich from somewhere like a parm sandwich
how do you maintain your figure well i've i recently gave up the booze for six weeks oh
you look amazing what's the point of that i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
what's 4kg it's like eight pounds you gave up alcohol and lost eight pounds anybody know what
4kg is 8.8 pounds you know i'm giving up alcohol this month okay okay continue with your we keep
shouting at other people um a yeah stop drinking for it for six weeks eight pounds working out and
eating well doing all the things you were talking about um uh where were we first dinner yeah and
10 ish and then wake up in the horrors the next day okay do i know my dream hangover day go on i
wake up with all my best friends and i know i can't think of entomers and i know really and i know this
sounds crazy but sometimes it's better if we all got into a massive screaming fight the night before
because we think it's so funny the following day usually my favorite hangover spot in the city is
uh the beverly glen diner oh you go out for lunch it's nice to just like get out there and feel the
sun well like lunch is in like just pick up the phone and go to the restaurant and go to the
sandwich and no no sit all right okay and then we sit there and i look at and i say i need to leave
oh yeah okay we need to leave louise yeah lunch yeah home yeah tv show yeah scripted yeah scripted
not non-scripted not usually not non-scripted um smoke dinner and then like what would you have for
dinner like well if it's a sunday you i don't i i love it sushi yeah but i
sushi on a hangover yeah i know one other person like that and that's great my tour manager i think
he i think he's a we would get along my cousin as well he paul uh sushi on a hangover is i could
not like i love sushi well it's the that's why it's for dinner or like uh or like um uh what
else do i or like an italian yeah pasta yeah yeah i can do with that i can deal with that and then
and then yeah i guess you're right the next day is the day where it's like what the i'm like very
depressed yeah
now because you're kind of early morning on the day of the hangover you're still kind of half
drunk i mean that's almost better that's almost better than going out yeah when you wake up and
you're still drunk and you're like wandering around and you're like what is happening like
one time like what is happening one time my friend peyton and i we went to this was the
best hangover day of all time we went to the beverly glenn diner and then we went next door
to the beverly glenn pharmacy and we bought fake babies and we carried the babies around all day
and then we went to the beverly glenn pharmacy and we bought fake babies and we carried the
went to no boo for dinner and got high chairs for the babies and sat and had wine with our babies
and then we also brought the babies to our friend's play and we bought a giant rabbit that's
actually in the main house and you were hung over doing all of this i got i don't think i can move
that much i get it like i walk down the street i could go and grab a coffee then regret the coffee
because the caffeine's made me more anxious and then die on the couch for the rest of the evening
i don't know if i could do much but isn't that so beautiful that you have someone that
you're so in love with that you can like do that with yeah how sad to do it alone oh yeah yeah no
she and her hangovers are worse than mine which is i did i do it alone you do it alone i do it
alone what about your best friends well sometimes they're not here right and i do it alone and it's
excruciating right it is you want to know what i do to just get through the day i get a benadryl iv
benadryl iv yeah i have someone come over and they give me an iv and they push benadryl into it
and i just
sleep wow
i can't are you okay no
but at least i give off the vibe i am yeah i'm genuinely so bad at driving i'm wondering if
they should take my license or not i almost crash like every time sorry that was all in caps i'm in
the car and it's even worse when it's raining or i'm driving around other people i'm really
insecure about it but like my friends are not wrong to not want to get in the car with me i'm
because i need to drive to and from work and we don't have a train close enough
i don't drive so i don't i don't even know what the start of that was there was a lot of
energy and she's basically like i have to drive and i'm not good at it so what do i do don't drive
but she has to she has to drive i mean i don't drive do you not how do you live in la and not
drive i uber oh my god or i hate that's one thing you can imagine who drives me around louise or
manny
um that's uh yeah just don't drive then just get i don't
there's not much to do i don't really know what she i would say like don't drive your friends but
drive yourself and just try to stay off your phone i i can't imagine driving it sounds horrible
i love driving really i i hate my pet peeve is being in the back of a car i just i'm so
jealous that you get to experience the feeling of like being alone in a car like you know like
i because i uber everywhere i'm always i've never been alone in a car so like i
have never been able to like fully like sing or fart in a car alone like that you know what i mean
sing and then farting get a car like do you know what i mean though that's what you're missing out
on because like and even in a waymo like they're listening have you seen the video of the girl
in the waymo like singing without her seat belt and the girl comes on and says put on your seat
belt oh yes like they're watching oh they're definitely watching so i've never been alone in a car
before it's horrible i've never been i feel like i've never gotten the experience to just like
you need to learn how to drive i know you definitely need to do that i won't get your
new york kid aren't you yeah i can't get the subway everywhere i i did yeah i did i hate my
job and i can never stop thinking about work i just graduated college and all i want to do is
go back to school how do you embrace the season you are in and look at the bright side as quitting
simply isn't an option since i'm lucky to even have a job dot dot dot question mark god you know
i really missed call i guess so i went to college and i really missed it that first year i graduated
but you have so much life ahead of you you know what i mean like where uh where did you go to
school usc oh you went oh you came out here for college yeah right what'd you study public
relations did you yeah look at you relating to the public i you think yeah for sure thank you
no uh what was our question again how do you live in the now
how do you ever struggle with that oh yeah because i just like i have this like constant thing where
you just take it all in because you never know when it's gonna go away yeah so i'm just like
you're gonna live with that all the time which is a good way good place to to be in a way because
it keeps you driven and motivated i guess like be like louise like louise had the best time in
college she had a friend group called the pepas the pepas did you wear leather jackets with pepas
no but there there's it was a group are you get this a group of 20 girls that were all friends i
said and they never fought oh 21 28 girls they're called the pepas there's 28 classroom of people
but louise is able to lead a beautiful and fulfilling life post-college while still
reminiscing on college and i think that's what you need to do and i'm sure louise didn't always
like your job no not this not okay this job i hate
i'm oh that's it
did you have fun that was so good what did we learn today we covered pretty much everything
we learned first of all we learned that we're getting a supermodel commercial again with poppy
with poppy we learned that the castle on the hill is real it's real he broke his leg there when he's
we learned that tucker hates you tucker clearly hates me and answers you and not me yeah well that
like and that
makes sense but the fact that he did i don't i can't talk about it actually we need to move on
we learned that um
I actually do like gumbo and thought that I hated it.
I don't think you know what gumbo is.
Yeah, neither do I.
No, I still think it's chowder.
I've learned that in Ireland that you guys don't do sweets for breakfast.
No, no, no, no.
Not at all.
And I also learned that I've made a new friend today.
Yes.
I agree.
Do you agree?
Should we hug?
I think we should hug.
Beautiful.
I felt that.
It's a new friendship.
Well, first of all, thank you for coming on the show.
Thanks for having me.
I know how busy you are.
Thank you for having me.
This is great.
I love it.
Next time.
I can't wait for the next time.
Please.
Yeah.
Dinner Party, your fourth solo album, is out June 5th.
Yes.
It's incredible.
I got to listen to it early.
Thank you.
It's amazing.
Bye, pussies.
Thank you.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Niall Horan shares personal anecdotes from his life, including a serendipitous meeting at a club and a memorable experience drinking mango margaritas.
He discusses his excitement about attending the F1 Grand Prix in Monaco with friends, highlighting his passion for the sport and his desire to experience it firsthand.
Niall reflects on his lifestyle, humorously detailing his love for true crime documentaries, music, and the challenges of maintaining balance between travel, work, and personal relationships.
Summary:
Niall Horan shares a warm, personal and humorous conversation reflecting on key moments in his life, including a chance encounter at a club, a drunken night at a dinner party, and his deep love for music, travel, and storytelling. He recounts memorable experiences such as drinking mango margaritas, attending a F1 Grand Prix in Monaco with friends, and his fascination with true crime documentaries like *The Jinx*. Niall also shares insights into his lifestyle—traveling frequently, enjoying music from the 70s and modern pop, and maintaining a grounded, slightly humorous perspective on life’s chaos.
He reflects on relationships, including a meaningful dinner party incident where he left early, a moment he sees as both a personal habit and a sign of emotional freedom. The discussion transitions into a lighthearted exploration of music, with nods to favorite songs like “The Archer” and “Someday” by The Strokes, and his excitement about attending live concerts. Niall also highlights his connection to comedy and storytelling, emphasizing his love for authenticity and relatable experiences.
The conversation concludes with a playful tone, blending self-deprecation, personal growth, and a genuine appreciation for shared human moments.
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