Session 118: Charlize Theron

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My back kills, actually. And it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if my back actually hurts. Or I'm just making it up at this point. Because I have an addiction now to feeling like the little knot in my back right there. And like rubbing my fingers off and on it. So I wonder if this is just what my life is now. I feel like maybe I gave myself a back problem because I really, my back was hurting really badly the other day. And then I put on a hoodie wrong. And it was like the most, like it made the most sense for how I felt. How it happened for me. I was watching a basketball game. I was watching these men sweat and like fight over this ball, like for two hours. Like falling, jumping, all this stuff. I'm literally just sitting. All of a sudden I put my hoodie on to get up and leave, back pulls. I felt like, of course, you know, I didn't even. And then these men do this every day. So if you're new here, this is not usually how things go. I usually have a friend with me. Oh, I guess, well, today's technically Wednesday. So I'm going to New York Wednesday night, which is tonight. I'm so excited. We're recording some fun therapist episodes and I'm just excited to be in the city in the spring. Like New York really is at its best in May. And I cannot wait to be able to experience it. Although I am trying not to drink right now, which I keep failing at, but I'm really, really gonna try this weekend to not drink. And if I come out of this weekend without having drank, I will be so proud of myself, but I am smoking every day. And I am realizing that the weed is making me incredibly paranoid. I had a moment the other night where I thought I was schizophrenic because when I was watching television, my sound was off. So when people were speaking, the sound of people speaking, like was off to the actual audio. And then I was like, you know what, fuck it. I'll just watch it on my computer. But then I convinced myself the same thing was happening on my computer. So I was like, oh, it's, it's happening. The big man's here. Like I'm schizophrenic. Cause it's like, if you know, you know, like that's my number one fear, schizophrenia. And I, I'm sorry. - Wait, what are you talking about? - I'm enjoying it. - Because Manny sees me. Like Manny understands everything I'm saying. And by the way, the fear of schizophrenia is a real OCD thing. And I will not have anybody come up on here and tell me otherwise. I'm allowed to be scared of things. - How's your reading going? - Okay, well, you know what? Shout out Kindle. I have a really hard time and this is not a sponsor. My nightlight doesn't display enough light in order for me to read. So Kindles like really make it easier. Cause like they light up in the dark and yeah. But I've been reading Fame Sick by Lena Dunham, which is obviously amazing. Like, you know, that's my queen. So, but I'm reading a little bit every night on my Kindle. Like I was really trying to go for like the rustic look of the book, but like, I couldn't, I couldn't, I had to go with my Kindle. So I'm reading a little bit of that every night. I actually just started Imperfect Woman. Anyone seen? It's very good. It's Elizabeth Moss, Kerry Washington, Kate Mara. It's very good. It's giving like all her fault vibes. Very soapy, very like you start and it jumps right in. Which is what I needed. It puts me to bed. Okay. I don't know if you guys could tell, but like I kind of have a new closet going on. Can you tell? - Yeah. - I have a new closet going on. Actually let's get Matt on the phone. I wonder if he's realized that I have a new closet going on. - Hello? - Have you noticed that I have like a new closet going on? - A new what? - A new closet going on. - What do you mean? - Like new clothes. Have you noticed? - Like all Ann Taylor and stuff? - What? - Like Ann Taylor, stuff like that. - Ann Taylor? No. What are you talking about? - Oh, I thought that's like what you were saying. You got Ann Taylor or shit or something. - What? How? - Huh? - What? - What did you just say? - I said, have you noticed I got new clothes? - I guess. - What are you doing? - Nothing. I just got my phone. I broke it today. - Oh, so you, that's actually funny. You, so you broke the phone today? - Like really early this morning, yeah. - So then why were you using that as an excuse for not responding to my texts all weekend? - I wasn't feeling too good this weekend. - So why couldn't you just say that instead of I broke my phone? - Well, I did break my phone. - This morning. - What does that have to do with anything? - I texted you asking why you couldn't, weren't speaking to me this weekend. And you said I broke my phone. You just told me you broke it this morning. - I mean, I don't know if any of that's really relevant, to be honest. - What do you mean? - Like that doesn't really make any sense. Like what you're saying. - No, it may, exactly. It makes no sense. That's why I'm bringing it up to you. - Right, right. - Okay, well, love you. - Okay, love you. - Love you, bye. Oh my God, sweets and snacks. We decided we're going to EDC now, the night before. - Yeah. - No, what, what? - So I thought we were going to EDC for Vegas and apparently we're not going to EDC for Vegas. So I have to break the news to everyone. - Hi. - Hi. - Hey. - Pup, we're not, yeah, we're not going to EDC anymore. - Okay, why? - Because we can't. - That's right. - Why not? - We can't go, we can't go to EDC anymore. - Nobody cares. - What happened? - Are you canceling sweets and snacks? - He's. - No. - No, I can't. - Canceling EDC. I mean, to be honest, I knew. - I mean, why do you think I didn't answer once in the group chat? - I knew you were gonna do that. - In no world were we going to EDC. - I didn't wanna go. - I was so down. - Oh my God, everyone needs to shut up, like. - So what happened? - We're disturbing Chooch's peace. - What happened is that Jake was manic last night and screaming that we're going to EDC. I didn't answer because I knew we never were. So he's canceling something that I never thought I was attending. - Okay, everyone say sweets and snacks on three. One, two, three. - Sweets and snacks. - Sweets and snacks. - Yes. My back, you guys. Oh, it's like, I want to live my life. All I want all day long is to have somebody just going into the knot in my back, like all day long, all day long. I wanna wake up face down and have someone say good morning and start kneading my back. And then just like take a break when I have to go pee or eat lunch and then continue kneading my back. That's what I want. All day long, just this one spot. And it like hurts, but it feels like when you're poking a gum, like, you know, when it hurts, but you're like, ugh. But I guess gums don't need to be poked and backs need to be. So we're going to sweets and snacks in Vegas. Everyone's super excited. See, the thing is though, I don't know if we're going to go out and I don't think they know that. And so I feel like I'm kind of bamboozling everybody to come to Vegas and they're like, like, what are we going to do? I think we should go out. Really? On a Monday in Vegas? It's a Tuesday. Do things happen on Tuesdays in Vegas? Are you sure? I do think we have to go out. Are clubs going to be open on a Tuesday? Something's going to be open. Because you know the club going up. Oh my God, that's really funny. I mean, they have that song for a reason, clearly. Tonight we have on Charlize Theron, whose new movie "Apex" is out now. It's amazing. I got the chance to watch it. And obviously Academy Award winner, icon, actress extraordinaire. She's everything. I was so honored I got to talk to her. You can literally hop over from "Therapist" to "Apex" 'cause we're both on Netflix. Ba-dum. And she's a fellow "Housewives" fan like me. So enjoy the interview. Happy Wednesday. I love you pussies. Tonight we have on something I never thought I'd say, but Academy Award winner, Charlize Theron. Aww. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. This is actually, remember when we met at the Tate McRae show? Yes. Did you enjoy the show? I did. My girls were there. They absolutely loved it. Yeah, we're fans. Have they seen any of your movies? Yeah, I actually saw Apex because they were out for most of it. The shooting of it in Australia and they came out was during summer. No, it was summer or spring break. I can't remember now. No, it was, I can't remember. But they came out, there was like a school holiday attached to it and they loved being in Australia where we shot. They really like, just loved the experience of being out in the wilderness and they, for the first time ever, they got some jobs. They were assistants on the set. They would kind of like help out and get coffees and I put them to work. I was like, Right, if you're going to be here. If you're going to keep asking me what my job is, I'm going to make you have a job where I have my job. But they were really loving it and so when the, the rough cut came around. I was like, do you guys want to watch it with me? And they were like, no, mom. And then I turned it on and they started watching it and then they just couldn't stop watching it. And it was truly one of my favorite moments because my 14-year-old, who's not at all impressed by me and always gives me kind of like a look of like, did you just fart? Sat next to me and she was just like, she got so, she's like, why is Sasha doing that? What, that's my character then. Why is Sasha, what? No, Sasha can't do that, mom. I was like, you were there. You know what the story is about. Like, why are you? So I knew that we were onto something because they were even like fully engaged and forgot that it was mom. They actually totally forgot that it was mom up there. Oh, so you must've felt like, I did. I did something cool. You know, the best, the biggest compliment was they said, the movie feels really short, mom. It did feel short. Did it? Yes, very short. Oh, look at that. You guys have something in common. That's a good, that's a good thing. I know. How long is it? I don't know. It's like two hours almost, right? It's a little less. It felt very short. But it feels, because it has such an engine, right? Yeah, it's excellent. Oh, thank you so much. You liked it? I loved it. Oh, thanks. And I loved it even more when I discovered that you do most of your own stunts. I do most of my actions. I feel like stunts are like crazy things, like throwing yourself down a staircase or off a building. Like, I don't, I don't do that stuff, but I, I like doing action because I feel like good action, good action movies make the physical stuff be part of the storytelling. It's not compartmentalized. It's not like the movie stops, you have some action, the movie picks up again. And so I do, I feel like if you want to make a movie like that, you have to really kind of engage in all of that stuff. What drew you to the script initially? I thought that there was a lot of potential. When I originally read it, it was, the characters were different. But the, the, the premise, the idea was so straightforward, you know, like you're just like right in page 10, she's already in the wilderness. She meets this guy, he ends up being a serial killer and he starts chasing her. And I just loved how simple that concept was. It didn't feel contrived to me and like plot driven. And then we just really spent a lot of time developing the characters, but I just loved the two-hander aspect of it. Getting to work that intimately with another actor. And coming up with some really good, I think, psychological scenes that makes the movie more like a psychological thriller, action thriller, slash action thriller. So I think of it more almost psychologically than action. You've been in a lot of like action movies throughout your career. Like, is there something about them specifically that draws you to them? I've been lucky enough to develop most of the action movies, except for Mad Max Fury Road. But Atomic, Blonde, I developed from eight pages of a comic book. And so that we really, I really developed that movie for myself. And the same with the Old Guard films. I did definitely, I wanted to, I was like, if I'm going to make some action movies, I want to make some really good ones. And so I really kind of took it into my own hands. Yeah. The same with this one. I really wanted to like, make this something really special. Well, it is very special. Thank you. And I'm so excited for everyone to see it. Do you like these kind of movies? I like the ones that you're in. Oh, that's a good answer. Thank you. I actually rewatched Monster. Okay. And I forgot how much it scared me as a child. Oh my God, that's right. You saw it as a child. Oh my God, I'm so old. No, no, no. I mean, I, and I, what I could think about after finishing it was, well, there were so many things I was thinking about, but you won Best Actress for it. The Academy Awards. What did that feel like the morning after? I was hungover. I remember, it's such a stupid vivid memory, but I remember like turning around and on my nightstand were false eyelashes, $5 million worth of jewelry, and my silicone boobs, just all stacked up in a pile. And I was like, that was a good night. Did you feel, did you feel any type of like, like pressure to do like Monster 2.0 next awards season? Or was there just, or were you able to ground yourself? It's definitely challenging because you do feel like there's a lot of eyes on you. But, and I was, you know, I was young. I was 27. There's definitely this feeling of like, like every step feels like it could be the wrong step. And then, you know, it's something that you can't do. You can't control. You have to just kind of, you have to watch that you don't start doing movies for, because people are kind of encouraging you to make them and you're not going by your own creative instinct, you know, which is something that I've just always trusted. Because then also if the movie doesn't work and it doesn't, and it's failed, it fails, you've done it on your own terms and it's something that meant something to you. Right. But it's hard for sure that I, I, I did not necessarily, I liked, that doors opened. Like all of a sudden directors who I admired wanted to meet me and like all of these things weren't happening before. Like I loved all of that because I could see that this was going to be something that changed the trajectory of my career. And I was really excited about that. But the other aspect of it of like, what is the thing that she's going to pick and how I just knew people were going to have opinions around it. And I didn't like that part of it. I know. I feel like that only happens with female besties. Actress. Yeah. You know, when there's always that discussion, like when Mikey Madison won for a Nora, it was like, well, what's she going to pick next? What's she going to pick next? That's so interesting that you notice that because I think it's true too. I really do. I feel like women get such a unfair shake. There's a lot of like, oh, you don't want to do what this person did, but it's like, like why not? Like not every movie is going to be a success. Like no actor has one success after another. Right. But I agree. I feel like women have definitely, definitely a harder time, especially when they're young. Yeah. Cause people love an ingenue. Yeah. And they just want to like make sure they mold them into however they want. Are you, are you a young girl? I feel like you really understand. I feel like you understand. I grew up around women. All my best friends are girls. So I have sisters. No, I have a younger brother. Okay. But my mom and I are best friends and I grew up around. My whole team is basically women. And so I know, but you have like a sensitivity, like a, like a innate understanding, that is not like, I know a lot of people who have that, but they don't, you have like a, you tuned into it. It's really nice. Oh, yeah. I like it. Thank you. Yeah. It's really nice. Well, yeah. I just want to ask you about that because I was like, I wonder what she felt like picking that. And what next project did you pick for 2000 for 2004? It was a film called Ian flux. Okay. Yeah. And it ended up actually being a film that really, um, it changed my, my life. In a not so great sense. I, um, herniated a disc in my neck doing a back handspring. And I landed on my neck on a, on a concrete bridge. And I, I almost paralyzed myself and it was like day 10 on the, on like a really long shoot of this movie. And they had to shut the movie down. And I was, I w I was in a lot of pain. And, um, they were like, you have to finish, the movie let's take six weeks off, like do some PT and like, we'll see how it goes. And there's like a good chance. Cause you're so young and you're fit and you're healthy, that your body will absorb this disc. And long story short, I, I got myself healthy enough to go and finish the movie. But from that time for the next eight years, I, I suffer from severe chronic pain, neck pain. Um, Oh my God. I'm, I had no idea. I'm so sorry. No, it's, it was truly, truly one of the, like, I am when you, when you deal with pain for eight years, I, I have, I, I don't really, I can't describe it any other way than just, it's so fear-based because you're just waiting for the next thing. That's going to set your neck off and lock it. And you're going to be in bed for five days. Right. And at first it was like, oh, because I did that big workout. And then it became like, I just reached for the towel to dry my body and my neck is out. Right. So, um, I had a neck fusion. done. there's a metal plate kind of holding my tube and then a year ago I had the one right above it it replaced not with metal but just with a disc replacement so now I'm bionic I can do anything with my neck but that movie really caused a lot of hell for me oh my god I when I asked I had no idea I'm so sorry no it's totally fine I mean this is your job you're doing a great job thank you well what are you therapist about today I feel like I'm angry about something but I don't know if I want to share it but like uh I had some dental work done and I'm not very happy with my mouth right now and I'm not happy that my doctor told me that I would a week ago be fine and I'm not fine and I don't understand why doctors don't just tell us truthfully what's gonna happen why do you think that is because they want our money oh you think it's that yes because if they actually told me this I would have said no I'm not gonna do this right now right because I know I have stuff coming up and he knew it because I told him and he was like I gotta sucker her in right now because she might not come back and so yeah I'm not I'm not very happy with this guy right now he's like he'll be fine are you kidding me you never told me that it was gonna be like a certain amount of like having stitches I was like why would you not share this information with me right I went from my post-op and I was like you never said any of this to me and he's like oh no no no no it's okay I tell you now yeah but that doesn't make it okay you should have told me the first time I saw you you have to get a new doctor I think so too I think I got bamboozled is this a dental yes I have someone for you okay great I love it he's been great for me okay and they all the LA doctors love to sucker money out of people I think so too they love to sucker money in ways that I haven't seen because I grew up in New York and I never saw this no and also by the way when I go on location sometimes and I like have something that comes up in a medication or or I go and see a doctor what they what you end up paying like I'm like the cost the difference between this and LA we're suckers yeah we're suckers we're absolute suckers we're just like people like completely complacent take my money you could sell me like water for fifty dollars and I would buy it it's all of us yeah all of us because what if right don't you have that feeling we're like I know it's a scam but what if always what if always what if this change is my life what if this water is like actually biblical yeah like I will literally buy anything so crazy what's the craziest thing you've ever bought then you've been like why did I buy that oh my god a lot of stuff let me think I bought it I bought a a back I thought it was a back massager with a heater on it and I I bought it and it came it must have come from London because it had the wrong plug on it like and so I couldn't try it but I sent it to an electrician to change the plug and it was this whole thing like getting the American plug put on I spent so much money putting this fucking plug on it and then I plugged it in and it doesn't massage it's just a heating pack I basically put I spent a hundred dollars to put a plug on something that I could have done with a water bottle right that sucks we're idiots yeah read the small print yeah that happened to well one time I bought a bought a jacket to Canada I was uh doing a job in Canada um and I was leaving Monday I don't know why I bought it on a Friday so I was like obviously it wasn't gonna get there I guess I didn't know that tariffs existed and so I had to ship it back to the U.S. which cost two thousand dollars what yes to ship one jacket from Canada to the U.S. because of tariffs isn't that insane not only that then I had to get it tailored most expensive jacket ever but you know what I compliment on it every time I wear it so I don't give a fuck it's worth it it's worth it when I was in New York wearing it this winter everyone's like I love your jacket and I was like you don't know what that means to me yeah I went through hell and back to get this jacket I'm gonna be homeless next week but at least my jacket looks good exactly I love it um do you do you base yourself out of LA almost entirely yeah I live here and my my kids are based and they have schools here and they have their own lives they're both really um they're really into dance and they're really they're they're uh they're on a competition team and so it's very um I mean I'm basically like doing this selling a movie and then I'm an uber driver just like driving them from ballet to school to home to Chick-fil-a to whatever they need you know right do they communicate with you via text message or via snapchat okay I am so glad you brought this up because I really hope my 14 year old is listening to this why don't you ever fucking text me back what is that they all use snapchat I did not know so I have to snapchat have 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come in handy for that any live events comedy sports music a play SeatGeek has you covered download SeatGeek today and use code therapist for 10% off that's 10% off tickets with promo code therapist thank you SeatGeek again for sponsoring tonight's episode I saw you say something very interesting where you're like AI could recreate acting but it can never recreate dance and I might be wrong on that just by the way I don't know the science there's a tech guy going like oh no we're on that that's happening next week do your kids want to be dancers at all is that like a goal for them they really love it you know I wouldn't be surprised if they go into some angle like that I mean I was a dancer for a big part of my life and I loved it so much I mean I didn't know there was really anything else that I was gonna I was so in love with performing but I didn't even know that then so when I look at them I can see the love that they have for it right now but then I'm also from my own experience I'm thinking this can branch into so many other things but I can tell that one of my daughters she's a natural natural performer so they must have had a lot of fun at the Tate McRae show yeah she's she loves the stage yeah she loves the stage and like I get so nervous she's so little she was so little when she started performing and I get so nervous for her and she would just be like pushing people out of the way to get on the stage like she just loves a stage and the girl can perform like she just knows how to perform my other one really loves like choreo choreographing dances and she loves the world a lot and she's really great in all these big bigger group group numbers but I don't know it's too it's too soon to kind of say where they're gonna to end up as long as they just need to get a job that pays them because i don't want to support them for the rest of life that's like kind of like my aim i always say like i need you to be financially independent i don't want you to rely on another person including me like i want you to feel what it feels like to buy your first car with your own money that you've earned that is a feeling that is just unbelievable so they're always like so you're not getting me a g-wagon i'm like they don't even make those anymore okay no they don't make g-wagons anymore but they all they're always like i'm like you must i'm gonna drive that one day i'm like you're what job do you have that's an that's an la baby yeah and i'm not i told they know i'm like i'm not first of all your first car is gonna be a dutson because you're gonna crash it you're gonna fuck it up somehow you're a new driver yeah so we're not getting like the nice car up front we need a little bit of experience and we're gonna earn it but i want them i want them to i want them to be independent i think that's the greatest like that's the thing that i i can take from my own life um my own experience and the power of that and i and i always kind of remind them to kind of think that way are you gonna have them get like summer jobs yes yeah every time we go to starbucks i'm like look at this do you see how friendly do you see how friendly you have to be that friendly every morning at 6 a.m like start getting ready for it yeah i mean i that's i feel like you just said it like la babies there's a bubble here and it's different than new york both are kind of very uh coastal eliti but there's a less of a bubble in new york i think because you have more access to like what the world is like in la you can really never leave did you have a did you have a job as a youngster in new york many many jobs what did you have i was a babysitter i was i in i interned a lot i did a lot of internships i interned at a magazine i interned at a public relations firm i interned at god i'm like forgetting i interned for a city council woman yeah it was it was cool it was like nice to make my own money and was it because your parents kind of asked you they were my mom was nothing strict as a oh so okay i'm doing the right thing yeah she was like okay i'm doing the right thing i'm doing the right thing i'm doing the right thing you don't like because i went to a private school where a lot of my friends had all their parents money to spend but my parents gave me like 20 bucks a week and were like figure it out kind of so if i wanted a fake id which i did i had to save up and i would save it in my little like do you remember those uh like radio things and you would put cds in them oh yes i know what you're talking about yes yeah yeah and i would put all my money in there um and so i had i mean this is such a great job it's the it's babysitting is the ultimate life hack yeah they will overpay you yeah it's like all you do is sit there but do you know why why they're like just give me a break right just please take my kids take my kids and give me a break yeah but i was a big i was a big babysat babysitter i babysat a bunch of kids and it like funded my way through high school i keep telling my kids that too i'm like this is a great way to start it is yeah it's though because they need their license to drive got it but like i'd be okay with driving them if they actually like did the job you know what i mean i'm not going to be that mean but i just i want yeah i really i want to encourage them because i also feel which isn't fair on them because they didn't ask for this but unfortunately i'm their mom and i think everybody is just waiting for them to be assholes and self-centered and kind of expect things to come their way you know and so i i i want to try and prepare them as much for that that that is going to happen and so they they have to start thinking about like there's hard work around things like you have to earn a lot of stuff in life just in general but it's going to maybe be twice as hard for you guys right you know in order how to like block out the noise as well yes exactly but also i think all of those things give you purpose as a young person and there's nothing like independence when you're a young person like when i remember when i left holy shit like i have to cook my dinner tonight like i have to make sure my laundry is done like i had to do all of it but i loved it you know how did you convince your mom to let you leave at 16 was it just a different time or my mom was the one who pushed me out of the house actually um there was a lot going on in south africa at the time and um i had an opportunity to go and try something and she really she really was the one who was like go you should go and try this you don't want to be on your deathbed and wonder what this would have been like um if i didn't do it so she was really my encouragement i mean she was the one that put it together that i should go try and be an actor i didn't i wasn't the one right didn't she come to new york and was like you're either coming home or you're doing an acting yeah not quite as articulate as that yeah but something like that yes and do you was it do you remember there was a moment when you were auditioning and you there was like where you're like okay this could actually happen yeah i mean i feel like at 19 you just think like every i did i was like i'm gonna go get this job today like i was just like so determined i never kind of willy-nillied anything always prepared i didn't get everything but i i definitely went in with the intention of like i'm getting this job today but i think that's my personality is very much like if i'm going to do something i'm going to do it really well i'm not going to fuck around because then i just won't do it right that's yeah yeah yeah when did you come here how old were you when you came here i was born here i was born but i moved when i was two and then i grew up around i grew up in new york i lived in brooklyn for a little and then westchester and then i grew up mainly in washington heights in the city and then i came back here when i was 18 for usc and then my parents kind of followed suit during covid because during covid everything was just like what the fuck is going on yeah and um now i've been out here ever since i love it here do you but i don't drive so because i will crash well that's if you don't learn my dad is like you will crash the car like this is like i'm like a true new york city kid like i can't do it oh my god i know i'm terrified i have a friend like that i'm terrified she's i was she's like i don't have a license i'm like how do you not know how to drive a car i was like eight years old i grew up on a farm yeah yeah so it's just like every eight-year-old knows how to drive some semi-truck or something yeah wow yeah but that's interesting it's like it's interesting how we all grow up and we're kind of we are what our like our circumstances what what we're surrounded in like that's makes sense like you don't have to drive in new york and i'm lucky now because of uber but if uber didn't exist i mean it really like clocked to me the other day when i was with my brother and he was like i don't know how to drive a car i was like i don't know how to drive i just got my first car and i was like what he's 22 and i was like oh my god i can't do this so he's in he's like yeah he can drive he can do it all and what your dad's like he's not gonna crash yeah you yeah i think my dad is like i'm like the one that the last one that'll listen to him so he's like just please don't get behind a wheel yeah i'm also so addicted to my phone so like i know like i just can't that's good that you know your shortcomings yeah yeah i i do feel like if anything i want to encourage my kids to drive a car i'm like i don't know how to drive a just take uber you know it's like i i think truly truly hands down the most scary thing for me is imagining my kids driving or being in a car with another 17 18 year old driving i can't think of anything more dangerous more scary inexperienced it's not about what they're gonna do it's not knowing what the other guy's gonna do i think cars are truly my greatest fear they're scary yeah they're scary much much prefer them to just take ubers yeah yeah i like walking i like everywhere i can possibly walk i will walk yeah it's like the one thing walking and listening to music is like my one thing that reminds me of new york yeah that makes sense so do you walk to beverly hills i uber what do you do uber or lyft i uber yeah what is that why do we all uber and not lyft it's kind of like apple versus pc yeah it's like i just use an apple computer got it have you ever have you ever used an apple computer yeah i've used an like lifted like been in a lift oh yeah of course i thought you were like lifted the gym i was like well yes so do you remember your lyft ride versus your uber ride were they different i remember the interface if that's what it's called of uber just being a tad more simple for me me too i just remember it being a tad more simple yes and i liked it just felt better yes you know do you know that my friend took an uber the other day and she took a photo and she sent it to me there tennis shoe underneath the front seat just a woman's tennis shoe just one and i was like you should probably check the trunk it was really really weird that is creepy i've had some creepy one tennis shoe just a small size five tennis shoe did she check the trunk no she i i don't know what she ended up doing but i was like this is actually serious this is actually not a joke like i'm actually worried for you you have to like text me when you're out of the car oh god one time i got dropped off on the side of the road. - What? kicked you out yeah i mean you can imagine like he was like you are so goddamn annoying like get out of the car you were talking too much well i said could you turn the music up a little he pulled over he said just get out oh just one thing that was it he was like he must have had a bad day oh and then one time i used to like i used to take every like there used to be like all these different apps for rides i'd be like five dollar rides across the city of manhattan as long whatever like there used to be all these different things and i remember taking one and it took me to 200 something street instead of 181st street and it was 2 a.m and my phone was at one percent and i remember i called an uber in a pinch and it it really showed up for me wow so i'm always uber over lift i get it what are you watching on tv right now i'm not i'm not watching anything great i'm watching 90 day fiance so oh really are you a housewives person yes i am are you watching rhode island yeah i haven't started oh it's amazing no really yes it's early salt lake oh i know what i'm doing tonight yeah oh there's only four episodes out it's fantastic you just changed my life okay so we're gonna do the talking what's wrong really quickly i'm in love with my brother's oldest closest friend i always used to joke around saying i'm gonna marry him but now i have a boyfriend who's been really great we've been dating for a bit but my brother's best friend best man too kind of just told me at my brother's wedding the feeling between us is mutual i'm like freaking out it's been a couple of days and i haven't seen him since what do i do i have so many questions yeah that is oftentimes the case uh well i think the simple answer is that if you're into him and he's into you then you should probably pursue it because it sounds to me like the boyfriend is a nice guy not much more yeah nice guys are good but if you have a crush on somebody else and there's chemistry and they are reciprocating then you should probably give that a shot i mean you can break up with a nice guy i think so too and i think it hurts to be it hurts them as well if you're just in the relationship for convenience and it's not gonna go away no never it's not gonna change exactly you're always gonna be wondering what if yeah exactly so yeah if i had a crush on someone for 10 years and they told me that they liked me back i would dump whoever was in front of me yeah and by the way that's like a feat 10 years is a long time and they'll give a shit yeah you should probably do it yeah i'm having a hard time knowing the boyfriend's like fuck you i know i literally like because of therapist my relationship ended i'm having a hard time knowing how to end a friendship that hasn't really even started there's a girl i've hung out with a couple of times now who i'm just not interested in developing a friendship with so but she keeps on asking me to hang out with these exhausting plans it feels like more like work than it needs to be that then it needs to be but the thing is we're both in the theater and dance scenes in my city and we have an upcoming project we're both working on so i don't want to ghost her be unintentionally rude that's actually a really hard problem yeah because when you started reading i was like don't fucking reply right but that's tricky because yeah that that that's a real that's actually a conundrum as they say in the olden days i don't know how to how would you go about that you do that's that takes some massaging i understand it's a complicated issue for her i would it here's the thing you can manage it but it's work that's the only annoying thing right it's like you can you can manage it you can massage it you can kind of like let her know that you're maybe more of a short person so you don't get all wordy with it you're just like can't do it tonight just be short with it right but you're not mean and you're not ignoring her but just like can't do tonight don't even get into it don't over explain why and hopefully you're going to be able to do it and you're going to be able to do it and you're she'll get the message because you're not being flowery about it but you're also not ignoring her right right and then if she's like well you didn't yeah just be like i'm crazy right now yeah just set your boundaries now i'm gonna be crazy for the next 10 years right actually yeah for forever actually it's gonna be really busy my boyfriend of three years told me last night that he wants to oh my god oh that he wants to help me lose weight and be healthier because he wants to marry someone who is fit and cares about their health i think i should be furious but these align with my goals too for reference i've gained some comfortable weight since we started dating should i take that from him or is this tough love no fuck no like i want to murder this guy yeah that's how that's that's outrageous that's not and three she's been with him for three years and he's never shown any signs of like hey baby uh those pants look tight like he's never done that that's outrageous i would break up immediately yeah this guy is no good honestly it's just that's not good and even if they align with your wants and needs and ideas like that should be on you that's your aspiration nobody who loves you should ever ever say anything about the way you look and how that should be improved like i just i don't have a friend like that in my life sometimes i kind of wish i do because i look back at photos i'm like does anybody who loved me why did you not tell me i shouldn't wear that i don't think i've ever seen a photo of you where you look bad ever that's very sweet but i've had some questionable hair choices uh but no this what's her name that we don't know we don't know susan listen to me drop this motherfucker drop him yeah drop him yeah i got bored at work and went snooping through messages between my boss and a potential new hire on the phone we have at work and found out my boss is offering ten dollars an hour more to this new hire for the same position i'm working in and this person has less experience and i've been here for two years help what do i do i feel like i can't say anything because i shouldn't have gone through the text messages that sucks because you don't want to know that right and you want to feel valued at your job and that's probably something now that's going to be really hard to kind of forget about i think that's always going to be in the foreground but don't fucking do shit like that like don't go through someone else yeah don't do it like you're gonna find something you don't like you know it's like girls are going through like either break up or just don't don't do shit like that you know you're gonna find something that's gonna just stay in your head no matter how long it takes you're gonna find something that's gonna stay in your head no matter how long it takes you're gonna find something that's gonna smaller big it is and doesn't need to be like a big thing but like don't go through people's shit like i'm so against it as well i did it once when i was 18 and i was like i'm just there i'm never doing this again there's no rhyme or reason like i don't want someone going through my shit but there's also no good experience because you're going to find out something yeah that's not going to sit well with you agree it's not good but yeah this is a tricky one i don't know you're partly to blame for your own problem here and it's probably not going to work out for you but i think it's gonna go away i don't know i don't know what do you think she should do is if i were her i would be looking for other jobs on the side and leave once i found an offer that i'm comfortable accepting and learn how to learn never to go through my boss's phone ever again yeah maybe start with that yeah yeah well charlize what did we learn today um what did we learn we learned we like uber more than left we learned that you're gonna campaign is it bad i kind of thought the same thing i was like wait we love lift yeah we can editorialize this to work in your favor we learned that you are a housewives fan yeah yeah no i'm a massive somebody asked me yesterday if you had to do a ted talk right now like what's the subject that you feel like you could really confidently talk i was like housewives i gotta talk i can do about housewives do you like you like salt lake i assume i do i love yeah salt lake is good i really love potomac as well yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry who's your favorite on salt lake i like them all but i mean if i was like gonna hang out heather like i'd love to like hang out with heather but then i just love all the drama i am obsessed with lisa barlow yeah i know she's pretty amazing like she she wasn't in one episode they mentioned her what 50 times yeah no she starts she starts a lot of shit yeah she starts a lot of they know their job on that show and for that i appreciate it yeah i just love all the hair always touching her yeah she's always always and i love i at first i didn't really care and now i really love angie oh yes you have to i mean come on she comes out of nowhere which is your favorite one salt lisa yeah and salt lake is your favorite but rhode island is giving early salt lake i'm telling you right now excitement about it is so good of me and someone i work with manny have been talking about it all day i saw it as i was scrolling because i friday is this beverly hills so i was you know searching for that one um and i saw it and i was like i don't know like i'm always suspicious of a new housewives i'm like because dubai didn't quite work well that like vancouver really no it's canada they're all nice you can't like do a housewives in vancouver the reason rhode island you're like oh i'm so sorry yeah yeah apologizing to each other constantly the reason rhode island works is because they could have gone two ways they could have gone like very high-end women who don't want to share anything yeah or they could have gone with women who are like this is my moment to make it on reality television i will reveal all and that's what they went with and it worked mic drop let's go let's cut this bitch i gotta go well charlize thank you so much thank you i really appreciate this thank you this is so fun really fun 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