Session 113: Crossfaded with Mau P

(upbeat music) - Bottom. (laughing) - Bottom. - Sorry, Nolan is not here. So just had to figure out how to turn on this podcast equipment. (laughing) - Out of our element. - Yeah, a little. - A little. - Hi. - Hi. - Hi. - We've been apart, oh my God, Polbo. - Yes, Mocho, Brett's mom got me a few shirts. Where'd you get them? - Madrid. - She has shooting Brett's mom went to Madrid and got me a few shirts that are very cute, and I keep saying I'm wearing them and Brett's like, "Really?" And I'm like, "Yeah, it's no, I've been wearing them everywhere." So Mocho, thank you. - Thanks, mom. - Do you wanna talk about Tokyo? - I would love to. - Let's talk about it. - Well, it was such a wonderful day. I just, I was so happy. - Wait, before how mad do you think Nolan's gonna be that we all figured this out? - I don't know. - I think he's gonna be mad. - He might kill me in press. - I think he might be like, "Whoa, nice." - No, no, I think he's gonna be like, "What?" I think he's gonna be confused. - Tokyo was everything in war, especially after, you know, how Chicago went, which I came on and talked about that. - We figured it out. - It really did just kind of press a button, don't we? (laughing) - Okay, are you surprised? - No, I'm not surprised. I knew the grift would be over soon. - But grift. - Well, I just pressed buttons. - Okay, so tell me about Tokyo. - Well, I mean, it just, I was so happy because I really, like, changed. I was gonna look at this race and I really, like, did it for myself. And I was, like, off my phone the morning of. Like, I wasn't posting. Like, I was hardly even responding to people. And I'm just, like, really proud of myself. - You said be, I was so proud of you. I am so proud of you. - Grapeyard, 306. - 306, and Jake was texting Max for updates, the whole race, which meant a lot to me. And I just, I'm so happy. - And then you flew back to LA and then saw me on closing night at Broadway. - Yeah, and it was perfect. I was so happy. - You had such a good time. - I mean, I'm, like, honestly, talk about good timing. The fact that, like, you know, I could come and talk back and see that. - Did you enjoy Tokyo as a whole? - I loved it, and you had just been. And how good was the wonton soup I told you about? - We sat at the same hotel for Jake stayed there too, and the wonton soup for breakfast actually was unreal. - I told you. - Yeah. - Like that good. - Yeah. - But it was amazing. - Yeah, it was amazing. So, yeah, it honestly feels like it was a long time ago. I guess it was a month ago. March just almost over already, which is crazy. - Did you enjoy this March? - Well, yeah, you PR'd in a marathon, so yeah. - Yeah, but it's honestly been really busy. And just, like, in you've been, like, gone, and I've been, like, lonely, so. - I get so lonely here when you're not here. I can't even imagine when I'm not here. - And you've, and you've been gone a lot. - A lot, but I'm back all of April. - Thank goodness. - All of April. Why do I feel like I, why do I feel so brain dead right now? - 'Cause you've had a busy week and weekend. Like, you just have to have-- - I saw Paul McCartney. - Oh, me, he's saying? - That was just-- - How was the Justin concert? - I feel like I was, I got to see two intimate shows of, like, superstars. - Well, you did. - Paul McCartney was just, like-- - Back to back. - I called my dad the next morning, and was like, I just saw Paul McCartney, like, in an intimate show. - I mean-- - And I saw him perform, hey, Jude. - That's once in a lifetime. - Let it be. And I, like, had, like, and I couldn't use my phone. Like, they, like, there was no phones and no photos. So, like, I was, I had to be in the moment. Not that I wouldn't be, but, like, I'm addicted to my phone. And so, like, when he was doing let it be, and, like, and the whole, like, room was just, like, so in it. It was, like, one of the most beautiful moments of my entire life. When he did it, hey, Jude, he was, like, like, now the boy's saying, like, nah, nah, nah, nah, and the girls would sing. And then everyone's saying together, and it was, like-- - I love that. - It was, like, I felt, like, I was-- I was witnessing, like, something historic. - For sure. - That's how I felt. I was like, this is, I can't believe. I wrote, I journaled about it. - That's amazing. - Because I didn't wanna forget it. I didn't wanna forget how special this week and what's to me. And then I saw Justin Bieber last night, and that was also-- - Oh, wow. - His voice brought, his never sounded better. - He's so good. - He's never, ever, ever sounded better. He was so beautiful. - I honestly, I love a no phones, and I have been trying to reduce my screen time. - What's the fuck is the brick? - It's been successful. So it's this, like, thing that you basically touch your phone to it, like, Apple Pay kind of, and it, like, you can do different settings. So I'd be, like, mindful. So I shut off all social media. So then I press my phone to the brick, and then I physically can't open the apps on my phone. - For how long? - Until I unbreak my phone. So I normally-- - But you're in the control of being, like, "Whoa, I can unbreak it." - Yes, but I think why it works. 'Cause sort of people are probably, like, that's so insane that you need this, like, external thing. - No, no, no. - But here's the thing. I go to open Instagram, and if my phone is, like, bricked, then, yeah, I could go and unbreak it, but then I have to, like, it's like, you have to do another step to do it. You know what I mean? So it almost makes you think twice, like, do I really want to, like, open Instagram right now? - Yes. - No, not always. And so I do it before bad, and I also started needle pointing, and guess what the fuck my average green time was last week. - What's it usually? - 10 to 12 hours a day. - Okay. And what was it last week? - Seven hours and 53,000. - Wow. - A day. Thank you. - Wow, that was really good for me. - That's nothing hours. - Seven hours. - What have you been thinking? What's been going on up there? - I don't know, like, I just, I think, the needle pointing plus the brick. 'Cause I'm not doom scrolling in bed. I think that that is, like, a huge game changer. - No, we're doom scrolling. - I'm not doom scrolling. 'Cause scrolling in bed, like, that's what I'm like, I gotta read. I gotta do something else. - I really wanna read Lena Dunham's new book. - Oh. - Okay. - I'm, like, very interested in, in, like, - Is it a memoir? - I think it's a memoir. I'm very invested in it. And I really, that's my next read. - Okay. - I really wanna read that. - I am going to read one of Eleanor's favorite books that I've been meaning to read for years. It's called "Rules of Sability." Have you read it? I know it's her favorite book. - What's it about? - And she said it to me last year when I got my boot production and I didn't read it. - Oh, what's it about? - It's about these two best friends in the '40s, living in New York City. - Ooh, love that. Ooh, love that. - And it's, like, fabulous in my-- - Is it good? - In, like, society. - Yeah. - High society? - Yeah. So, anyway, so that. And then also, I've been listening to podcasts again. Another way to get off my film when I go on my walk, that I'm listening to podcasts, so I'm not scrolling. And I'm been listening to crime drunk again, which you remember. I was like, "That was my fave in college." And Ashley Flowers, the host, has written, like, two different books, like that are fiction, but apparently they're a way of saying. - Ooh, okay. - So I've read those two. - Okay, well, we are strapped for time. - Yeah, sorry. - Me and Brad right now. So I'm so sorry that we have to cut this so short, so early. But I love you, Bee. - I love you so much. Have a great recording. - I'm so proud of you on the marathon. - Oh, thank you. - You probably start planning summer stuff. - Oh, and tonight on Therapist, we have Mau Pion. - My cousin's a huge fan. - He's amazing. He's amazing. - I'm so excited. - It's one of my favorite episodes. I think I've ever, ever, ever, ever recorded. Have you seen any of it? - No. - I'll play it for you later. - I can't wait. - It was one of the kind. - Okay, love. - Shout out Grace. - Shout out Grace. - Shout out Grace, is that your cousin? - Yeah, big fan. - Okay, I love you. - Love you, love you. - Bye. (upbeat music) - So funny, you said you liked my shoes because I like, I got them from my birthday. Do you want to get to guess what my birthday is? - 26 of January. - 27th of October. - Ooh. - And yours is. - 26th of October. - 26th of October. - No way, but that's a while ago. - Uh-huh. - And they still look really nice. Like you haven't even worn them. - Thank you. - Have you? - Yeah, around town. - They're like suede and everything. They're like, they look fresh out the box. - Oh, you know, you're knowing. - What do you want me to call you? You want me to call you Mao? - Mao. - Mao. - Okay. - What else were you gonna say? - Like your, your birthday? - Mao Ritz, M-A-U-R-I-T-S. - Do you love Amsterdam? - Yes, very much. But just like lately, the weather has not been great. And like I get very affected by the weather. So. - Oh, Scorpio vibes. - Yeah, and here it's so nice. - You love LA. - No, I hate LA. But the weather is nice. - Where do you love? - I really like Barcelona. - I love Barcelona. - Good. - You wanna go? - Do I wanna go? - Yeah. - Right now. (laughing) - So I heard you were going back to Pasha. Are you excited? - Yes, super excited. - Pasha, Pasha. - Pasha. - Pasha. - The Spanish say "pacha". - Pacha. - Yeah, my girlfriend's Spanish. - Where'd you meet her? - Pacha. - Did you really? - Yes. - How'd you meet her? - She is friends with my booking agents. - Okay. - Sometimes it's just as simple as that. - Yeah. - Okay, so your first song that really took off was "Drucks from Amsterdam". - No. - So what's your favorite drug to do from Amsterdam? - Ecstasy. - Okay. - Yeah. - You're an ecstasy guy. - Yeah. - What's the difference between ecstasy and Mali? - So ecstasy is like the press bill and Mali is the crystal. - Is ecstasy? to see from Amsterdam just like amazing. - Yeah, we're really good at making it, but lately they've been making it really strong. Like they just make it stronger and stronger and stronger. - Why? - 'Cause I guess with everything people just crave more. - You religious? I like to believe. - That's what I say too, you're so Scorpio. Like that's what I say too. - Are you toxic? - Yeah, are you? - No. - Oh, really? - Not at all. There's not one thing that you could be like, I'm toxic. - Not really. - Like I'm fucking crazy. - Yeah. - Like I'm crazy. Like I'm the thing is-- - With what though, like what's an example? - What's an example, Louise? - I don't know if I would say toxic, being the word. - Enthusiastic. - But dramatic maybe, or like-- - That means you care about something. - How do you like to celebrate your birthday since we're like almost birthday twins? - I hate celebrating my birthday. - I don't love celebrating my birthday. - Either. - No. - Why don't you like celebrating your birthday? - 'Cause you know what I do love? I do love like doing something for my friends and like organizing something, but I don't want it to be by me. - I don't like doing that, I'm sure. - No. I like being invited to organized events that people have organized for my friends and celebrating them, but the putting my back into it, like, oh, I can't. Can you? - I can think of something fun to do. - We're on the same page with the birthday thing. - Yes. How old are you? - I'm 29. - Okay, fun vibes. - You? - Guess. - I could, I really have no idea. - And how sad is that? - You're like, I'm sorry, but you're like one of those people. It could be like really young, it could be like older. - Like what's the oldest, if I told you, you'd be like that, I get it. - You want me to insult you. - No, I don't want you to insult me, but I want you to be honest. Like, I want you to be honest and tell me the oldest age you think. You look really young, that's the thing. But I'm like, I'm in a studio with you. You organize this, this is your podcast. Obviously you've done well for yourself and you're like wise. And so there's something old in there, right? But you look really young. - So how old do you think I am? - 23. - I'm 26, thank you so much. - You're 26? - Yes, you are. - No, but see, that's crazy to me. 'Cause I'm like, I'm 29 and I still feel really young. But when I see people that are 26 and they've already done this much, I'm like, where did you find the time? 'Cause I was not popping off at 26. Like you were. - Yes, you were. - No, I was not. I was absolutely not. I was in a mid, like a quarter-life crisis. - What did that look like for you? - I was like being stressed about getting older. - Really? - 'Cause I was like, I have to do it. I have to make something of myself a blah, blah, blah. And then the drugs from Amsterdam song game. - And that came 'cause you felt like no pressure, right? - Yeah. - It's very pop girl of you. Sometimes like pop girls make their best albums when they feel like no pressure from society. - It was just one song though, it wasn't like a whole album. And then you did the less I know, the battery max. And then how long was that after drugs from Amsterdam? - Super long like three years, I think. - So did you feel like, well, I have to follow this up, I have to follow this up, I have to follow this up. - No, not really, not really. There wasn't really a lot of pressure because I had been making so much new music that I had a lot in the back. - Okay. - To release that I was happy about. - Have you ever been to the Red Light District? - I mean, I've walked through it, but it's one of those things that for locals, it's like hell. - So was it like Times Square for Amsterdam? - Yeah, exactly. - Really? - It's terrible. - Okay. - It's in more places, so like next to my house, there's like those lights as well. It's so, I don't even notice. - Okay, question for you. My Harry style just released a song called Dance No More. Do you think it's about you? - It's definitely a district, yeah, in some ways. - You think it's about you? - Yeah. - You really do? - No. - Have you heard the song? - Oh my god. - I haven't heard the song. - He basically is like DJ's Don't Dance No More. And then people think it's about like that one video that that girl made, that was like DJ's Don't Dance No More. So then during Coachella, when Malpee did his Coachella set, he like had this whole Dance Break and it was like a whole thing. - Is there a world where like he actually didn't see that? And that was the inspiration? - I think these people are a lot more online than you would think. - Right? - I think so. Are you online? - Yeah, too much. - Really? - Yeah, I hate it. - Okay. - I hate my phone. - Do you have like fellow DJ friends? - There are some people that I like, but it's also it's all started with business. So it's like, it's hard for me to tell. Also everyone's nice to me. So it's like hard for me to tell. Has anyone ever been rude to you? - Root? - Yeah, we can bleep it. - Always like a lot of people are rude, right? But it's like, I mean people that know and want something from you and they're like, for example, with you, they're probably also like, oh. - They know you have to show-- - I fucking wish. - They're not? - No, they're like nice, but like I'm like, you could kiss us a little harder. Like you know what I mean? Like what I would always appreciate it. Make me feel good. - Maybe because you don't give that same energy to them? - No, I kiss us. - Yeah. - Would you, you ask? - Would you? - Regular Louie. Breakfast. - Do you really? - Why not, yeah. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - I'm taking over the whole show. I'm like just diving into this right now. - You like eating us? - You don't? - Wait, not, oh my god, I'm gonna freak out. I'm gonna freak out, not particularly. What do you like about it? - I mean, we're talking about kissing us. Why not eat it? - Okay, you know what? We're here. We're here. Well, while I have you, I guess like, do you like when someone eats your ass? - No. - Okay, so why? So I, okay, why? - We got here very fast. - But that was you. - I know, I know. - That was you. - Just sort of testing the waters. - So you love to eat us, but you don't like getting your ass eaten. - I honestly haven't really seen much of this show. So I don't really know, like what I know. - We don't really get here, but I'm so hot. Can I tell you, can I tell you, I am so happy to be here with you. - Perfect. (laughing) - So that's nice. - Wow, I can't believe that about you. - Why not, it sort of makes sense, though. - Like, what, how would that make sense? - Like you can't tell him a little weird or something. - I don't know, I'm like blushing now. I like it, so we need to move on. - We need to move on. - Okay, okay, I'm moving on, I'm moving on. - I like that lamp, by the way. - What do you like about it? - It looks like a sex toy. Look at it. - Did you choose that lamp? - Do you like it, you know beads? - No, did you choose that lamp? - No, I didn't choose that lamp, but I guess it does look like a sex toy. It's a little dusty right now. - Is this mine, the water, by the way? - Yeah, do you wanna drink some water? I can. - Unbranded? - I mean, usually we keep it branded, but I guess someone took off the branding today. Was that you? - You're just switching things up. - I really would like to come to one of your shows. You know, I've never seen you live. - Really? - No, and I really wanna come. I missed the Coachella Malpe dance break. - Damn. - And someone told me you're a fan. - I am a fan. - Okay, cool. - I love drugs and Amsterdam. - 'Cause there might be a situation where I'm like DJing and I don't even play those songs that you like so much. - Well, that would suck for me. - What if it didn't? - Like what songs would you play? - It's not about the separate songs. - Do you live mix? - Of course, but I would take you on a journey. - Oh, okay. - You know? - Okay, so you know what I wanna do? - Yeah. - I want to go to your set and I want you to take me on a fucking journey. - That's done. - Like how late do you party? - I play for eight hours. - So what time would it add, like seven? - Yeah, and then if you find CDJs in a mixer somewhere, you can just go to someone's house. - Where can we do this? - Your house? - LA is not made for that. Like where can we do this? Realistically, like should I come to Pasha? - Oh, yeah, for sure. You're more than welcome anywhere. - Yeah. - Thank you. - Yeah. - Okay, so what's your tour schedule like? 'Cause I would like to like just like point it out in my head right now really quickly. - I love your hair. - Thank you. Underneath the hat? - Yeah, I keep staring at it. - It's nice, I just gotta redone. - Really, I need a fucking haircut. I need a haircut. - No, I mean, I gotta bleach it again. - Oh, you did? - Yeah, 'cause it was like-- - Natural hair color. - Brown? - Okay. - Brunette. - Okay. - Okay. - Why? - I don't know. - What? (laughing) - Okay, so what is your show schedule coming up? Look like. - Coming up, the next show is San Francisco? - I hate San Francisco. - Really, why? - I hate it. - I don't have anything I love about it, to be honest. - When the fuck are you going to Vegas? - Saturday. - This Saturday? - Yeah. - I can't. - No, Friday, the Friday. - This Friday? - I remember there. - Shut up. - When? - Shut up. - In May. - Oh, in May, okay. - How'd you find that so quick? - I'm on your website. - I have a website? - Okay, so I am the Chief Creative Officer of Couches Gummy's. Couches, yes, yes. - What, what, what? - Couches, yes, yes. So I'm the Chief Creative Officer of these gummies. And we are going to the sweets and snacks expel. - That is Dutch, but it's a Dutch word. I know those from growing up. Couches. It means little cats. You're what for this? (laughing) You're the CEO of this. - The CEO. - You're the CEO of my whole youth? - Guys, do you want some? - Absolutely. - Okay. - Do you want sour? - Are they vegan now? - Yeah, they're vegan. Do you want sour? Do you want foamy? - Foamy. - Couches, yes. - These are exactly what I hope. - It would still be, that's amazing. - My best friend, Peyton, is going to freak out. - Congratulations. - Thank you. - Get a band. (laughing) - Get a band. - Okay, wait, oh my God, you're with Sally, perfect. So I'm with Mal, say hi. - Yes! - Guess the fuck, what? - What? - That Friday we're gonna be at sweets in Snacks, Expo and Vegas, he's performing. - Oh, yeah, I'm coming. - I'm going to bring Katna's on stage. - I don't want to be that. - I'm now my favorite performance of all time was your Coach Ellis ad. - Can I see these people? - Hey, hey, I like your stars, Hunter. - Thank you. - Yeah, they went to your Coach Ellis ad. - The most electric time of my life. - Awesome. That means a lot to me, thank you. - Okay, well, we're gonna have it again in Vegas. - Love you. - Have you heard about Get 'em Banned? - About what, sorry? - Get 'em Banned. - Get 'em Banned? - Get 'em Banned, we don't do that here. - You haven't heard about this? - Get 'em Banned? - Get 'em Banned. - Banned, from what? - The Peloton class. - What's Peloton? - Get 'em Banned, it's a virtual spin class and somebody joined the class with the name Petal, like your petal and file, and the woman Kendall said, whoever just joined that class with that username, Get 'em Banned, we don't do that here. Oh, now I'm pissed, flat road ahead, no disrespect. - That's what she said? - I'm not the one, baby, yeah. It's almost like verbatim as well. - She has some spice to her. - Oh, now I'm pissed. That's what we've been saying. When I'm so excited for Vegas, are you so excited for Vegas? Oh my God, I can't wait, I literally can't wait. I just got from Vegas and I'm going there again Saturday, so it's like a lot. - Yes, but now that you know, like, oh my God. - Now that you know that you guys are coming as a whole different situation. - Do you smoke weed? - Yes. - Do you want to smoke? - Can I? - Should we? - I was actually, I brought some. - Done, bring it out. Oh my God, I'm so excited. - Okay, do you have a little like an astray Lulu? - Yeah, there's one actually, is there not an astray? - There is a, oh boop. I'm so excited. Wow, no, wow, it smells good. - Are you having fun with me? - Am I having what? - Fun with me. - So much. - I like low key, if you're like we're going to be friends. - Weren't we already sort of spiritually? - I don't know, we stop, that is so scorpio of you though then. - Are you spiritual? - When it comes to like stuff about myself. - Are you religious? - When I, yeah, I guess. - 'Cause I mean, I said I like to believe. - I like to believe, I'm very OCD's, so I believe there's a higher power telling me this that in the third. - Yeah, no, but actually, right? - Yeah, but actually. - Yeah. But then is that spiritual also? - Yeah, I think that's spiritual. - How are you spiritual? - I don't really know about the signs and everything, but you're a scorpio. - Yeah, but like, so I'm not like, oh, I'm a scorpio, so that's why I do this and this and that. I'm more like, who I feel there's a certain energy about this person that I don't like, or there is, or I just like, I'm genuinely attracted towards something and I'll just go do it. - Right. - You know, your actual name is Jake Therapushchein. The third. (laughs) - Jacob. - Jacob? - What's, what's-- - I'm done if you're done. - Where does the Therapush come from? (laughs) - Therapushchein? (laughs) - Okay. - Oh my God. - Oh, you did the fan for the-- - Yeah, you just didn't get, do you want water? - I feel good. - I'll just stop because you stopped. - Oh, okay. - But you could keep going, huh? - I just wanna stay on the same level. - Me too. - If you keep the joint there, we should we move it out of frame. - Move it out of frame. - Okay. - Here. - Lulu. - Cute. - Love that jacket. - So I actually have two that look the exact same. I knew you were gonna say that to me. - What? (laughs) - It's you, really? - It's myself, I've gotta clarify, I've got two. - It's really nice. - Thank you. - Who made it? - Mojiga. - Can I see the back again? - She said that to you. That's cool. (laughs) - You can't really tell it's put to you. - Exactly. - That's what she likes. - She says she, I'm so tacky. - You want the fool. - I want the label. I want like, if I'm about to spend money, like, please, like, know that I spent this money. - Yeah. - To shop me, make you feel better. - Yes. - Me too. - Absolutely. - Me too. - Oh my God. - Why does it make us feel so much better? - Retail therapy. - But why? - Because I think you sort of obtain an object with money that you worked for. So it's sort of the payoff for working really. The payoff isn't getting money. The payoff is buying shit. Like, right? - Yes. - Right? That's what I think. - Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. - Why are you doing this podcast? Like, is it? (laughs) - I don't know. (laughs) - No, but like, really, don't know how we got here. I like-- - It's awesome, but like, it's like money is money part of the motivation. - No, this podcast didn't start out with the motivation for money I was putting money in. 'Cause it's, this is independent. Like, yeah, it's published with Netflix, but like, I own this podcast. - Awesome. (laughs) - And I-- - What were you doing before this? You were in theater acting? - Wait, you really thought that? - You weren't? - You really thought that? Like, you thought this kid was like a theater actor like all his life, like-- - I was pretty sure you were. If you're telling me you're not, then I'm like-- - Why is it because you think I'm a good actor? Is that why you're just like, you would be like, so dramatic. - I Chad G.P.T. your name. (laughs) - Honestly, the computers have something wrong then, and I've been fed information that-- - No, someone at Chad G.P.T. is on my side. - Someone at Chad G.P.T. is on my side. - Oh, you like it. - But it's-- - Yes, I'm out here if it said Jake, like, was just Jake. Wait, I don't know what I wanted to say, you know what I'm trying to say. - It was very focused on acting. - You are behind this somehow. (laughs) - But you've never acted? (laughs) - No, I have acted. But like, that's just so funny. 'Cause like, but I guess now I am, I did Broadway. - Yes. - There you go. - That's exactly what I was saying. - Yeah. Sorry. That really tickled me. I'm so happy, Chad G.P.T. says that about me, to be honest. I was a feeder kid kind of. Like I did my sixth grade play, my eighth grade play, my 12th grade play. How did I get here? You ask. - No, I was saying what were you doing before this? - Oh, I worked at a record label. - Amazing, which one? - It was 10K, I think it's still 10K projects. I worked at 10K projects. And that's bass, where? - It was independent, but now it's with Warner. - But like, you were in LA? - Yeah, I was based in LA. But I worked in international marketing for a little. So I would like, see song data. - Cool. - And like, where, so like, where the label knew where to put the money to promote the song. - Right. - Based on where it was doing well internationally. So I remember I got to go to London for it once, and it was so cool. It was my first time in London. - Yeah, you like London? - I love London. - You have to show me. You don't like London? - I haven't had that insane experience that you have in a certain city gets in London. I mean, I've been to London. - I think it's London. - I feel so like Kant and Sheik. Like, oh, Jim and London. - Yeah. - I've won so much Sheiker there. I've won it's like, eat, like, I don't know. - Maybe I go to the wrong parts or something. - No, I think you go to the right parts. Where do you go? - I don't know, I've just been doing shows there. - Where's your favorite rape scene? - I really like South America. - Is it just like, fuck it vibes? - They just dance a lot. - Ah, where in South America? - Everywhere. - Brazil. - Well, definitely, but also Argentina. And in Argentina, they have their own dance is called the Argentinian wiggle. And all they do for hours-- - And you do. - They just go like this. - And groups, but then they look at each other. They don't even look at me. - I look at the crowd, it's just groups of people like wiggling together, but they have so much fun. - I'm so high right now that I keep thinking Nolan is holding up like that clipboard. I feel like you're holding up like a dry erase board. Like that is what I keep. Where did you get this weed from? - What's on it? - No, nothing, I'm hallucinating. It's what I'm trying to say. - Oh, we have a script. - No, we don't have a script. - Mine like the Truman Showers. Where's the way out? - Are you having fun? - Yeah. - I'm actually having fun with you, but now I'm so insecure that you're not having fun with me because I'm high. - What do you mean? Are you having one of those? Everyone's looking at me? - Yes! - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - Okay. - No. - Okay. - This is a safe space, and this is not even-- this is your house by the way. - I know, do you like? - I have seen a little bit of the inside. Are you swifty? - Yeah, biggest of all time. Ever, she's my everything. - Yeah? - Have you ever read my son in first songs? - No, I have not. I also haven't been asked to do-- - No, but you can like do, like, not to like, I don't know if you could officially release it as like your own track, but like, you can remix the Taylor for a song. - No, she's doing dance music remix as well. - I know, so put your hat, put your fucking in that. - I honestly don't deserve that. I'm like not-- - Oh my god, why do you think that about yourself? I think you were so talented. I can make a really great remix. of one of her songs. - I don't know a lot about her. - Can I tell you about her? - Yes, please. - Okay, well, what would you like to know? - What's her demographic mostly? - So the beauty about her is-- - It's for everyone. - It's really for everyone. - It's like young and old. - Yeah, it's like, oh my god. Like once you get it, you fucking get it. Like there's like no way if answer butts about it. Like she'll do something that like tracks back to 2012. - Right. - And like it just like-- - It's like watching a really good show. - Yeah, I guess. - But it's beautiful because you can listen to it again and again and again and again. And then you can apply it to your life because it is like so universal. Those stuff she talks about. And you wouldn't expect someone of her celebrity and stature to like talk about these things still. And she dies and like really doesn't like yes. She'll say like like public perception affects her but like she's still her through it all. Do you know what I mean? - It's a really good explanation. No one's ever told me about Taylor Swift like that. - Oh my god. - And I never understood. - And I always go deep in with people when I introduce them to her. I'm always like here's daylight. But in order for them to understand daylight, they need to listen to red. And like they need to know the journey that it's led to get to daylight. - Well, you're insanely passionate about this. - Yeah, I really am. Like she's really that girl. Like I don't know what to say. Like she really is that girl. - Is there another thing that you're like dislevel of passionate about? That's not to this. - No, my words like fucking racing holy shit. I need like five seconds. Because like I can't. Like once you get me going, like I used to write essays about her songs like. - Awesome. - Like I. - I used to do that about this soccer player called Ronaldinho. He's from Brazil. - What do you love about Ronaldinho? - Well, like right now, it was more of like a thing when I was like a kid. When I still played soccer and everything, it was just, I don't know, he was the best soccer player over the whole world. And he looked awesome. He had awesome hair. He always did like a thing with his hand. He had like a signature moves. He did like tricks that no one else could do. So I wrote like school essays about Brazil and Ronaldinho. - What do you think connects all that passion? From like, from soccer players to singers. - I think it's mystique. I think you like, I don't know everything about Ronaldinho. - Okay. - And I think today with like artists, I think about this a lot. So like DJs and artists, people that make music that are famous, they're not really, they don't have that mystique anymore. 'Cause they're like chronically online. - So do you think people are holding on to the fact that Taylor Swift will always have this mystique about her yet, is still a bit honest? - Yes, absolutely. - But does she feel approachable? - Yes, no, no, I would never like bother her in public. - No, but like you can relate to her? - I guess, I can, God, like I felt so seen by her the other day. Like I was really down, I was down bad. I was down really bad about something. And like there were her whole tortured poet's department and really got me through it. Because in tortured poets, she like, like how to public three month situation ship and that's clearly what this is about. And so I'm like, oh, okay, like I feel validated. Like you can love this intensely and like there can be music set to it to make it a little less sucky. - Yeah, it's real. - It's yeah. Like I would listen to down bad off the gym and be like, like now I'm done and I have lived it out of moment where I was like, I am, I'm literally this lyric epitomized. This is how I feel right now. - Down bad. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Like how much skill one to ten? - I would say like eight seven. - Ooh. - Eight point seven? - Yeah. - Well, what's the missing one point three? - Well, we're gonna find, we're gonna find it. - Does she want to smoke weed? - No. - I would, it's like. - Are you guys best friends? - Yes. - You look like the girl. - Exactly. - But we are like best coworker friends. Like Louise has boundaries. Louise has boundaries and it's really like been such a but-- - No. - But it's been such a but-- - What happened there? - No, no, she's just like, like is really good at separating her work life and her personal life, but like still maintaining a really beautiful and honest relationship with me. - Wow. - Like that is how I feel about you. And that's hard. - Like shit, oh my god, I love you so much. I'm so grateful for you. I like, we don't know what I would do without you. Wow. Isn't that beautiful? I like full body chills and like wiggles. - That is beautiful. - Okay, I need to hear what we're talking about. Oh. - No, about you guys. But have you guys known each other for a long time? - We used to work together. - Where? - At 10K project, she worked at home meetings. - No way, you were at the label too. - Homemade projects was a joint venture with 10K projects, so we all kind of worked together. - What kind of music was it? - A trippy ride. - No way. - E and Dior, everything rap. - Ice spice. - Old rap. - Between friends. - Are you passionate about music like that? - Yeah, very much so. It's like probably my favorite thing in the world. My favorite thing in the world is what they would call a needle drop. So like in a movie or a television. Have you seen Mr. Robot? - The series? - Yeah. - The whole thing. - No. - With what's his name? - Yes. - Wait, wait, wait, I know we were just about to get somewhere and I'm so sorry. But in that moment I felt like holy shit. He's about to tell me I know that he has watched Mr. Robot. Dylan, Dylan, put me on, it is the best show I've ever seen in my entire life. - I watched it so long ago. - Okay, so do you remember the ending? - No. - It was so long ago. - There was just a really good music moment in the show and that's why it came to mind. - Oh, right. I just watched a star is born. - And isn't it great? - No, but like music wise, too, it's like. - Yeah, but like don't you love a good needle drop is what I was trying to say. I shouldn't have first smoked weed again. Don't you love a good needle drop? - What does it mean? What does it mean? - Oh, okay, great. So a needle drop in music is, or a television is like-- - When it cues. - When it cues. - Right, okay. - What? - They play it behind a moment and it makes the moment so much more intense. Like a really famous one would be, breathe me in six feet under. Dance you on my own and girls. Like, what I was gonna, back to Mr. Robot, they did outro by, I make three for the final song and oh, kills me. - Yeah, that's crazy. - Kills me. - Mr. Robot? - No. - Who's the main character? Ramy Malik, what's his character's name? - Did you say Elliott? - Hello, Elliott. Yes, Elliott, sorry. Elliott. Sorry, I'm sorry. (laughing) - All right, conversation with yourself here. Should I take over? - No, but oh my God, this is why I said don't do it. - Oh. - Wasn't that crazy? It was okay, you're doing fine. - What, I was trying to remember the name of the last episode because I knew that episode had his name. And then if I remembered the last episode, I would remember the name. - And did you? - Yes. - What's the name? - Elliott. - Okay, good. Just checking if you're still here. - So what are you there, Mr. Robot? (laughing) Oh. I feel like we need to smoke more weed, though. (laughing) - So what are you therapist about today? - Just today. - Today, I can tell you what I'm therapist about. - Tell me. - I don't have a show that I'm watching right now that I, well, yes, I do. So, oh my God, I'm not mad about that. (laughing) - That's the only thing you're pissing about in your life can't be. There's no way. - Okay, today I was really angry because (beep) called me about something and I felt so insecure already. Like I just, I felt very insecure. I was feeling down. And the thing in a weird, sick way, should not have made me more insecure. But I, God knows what it triggered inside of me because it made me really sad and really upset. And I couldn't get out of it. - So you're pissed that you were sad? - Yeah, not sad, just like frustrated. And like I, like sometimes like, you know when you wanna move a mountain, but you can't, that's like how I felt today. And that's what I was therapist route. But smoking has honestly helped me get over it. Like, I have so many people around me that love me. Like life is so beautiful. What we do is so special. And like, I need to be grateful. And I think I'm just uncomfortable in my shop. - Big swish up, that was fast. (laughing) - That was crazy, it was so fast. - I think I'm just like uncomfortable in myself. I'm trying to be online less, but it's hard because being online is my job. - What do you say? - I have the same thing. - Are you therapist? about that as well. - Always. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's like, it's not a real world or something out there. - Oh, he can't take it to me. - And sometimes it's like real. - At the same time, it's like, (laughing) It's like, they make it so addictive. You just keep going forever. But then at the same time, I see also a lot of things that I like on there. And then I'm like, am I gonna miss out? If I don't have my phone? 'Cause sometimes I see something that really inspires me or like a piece of clothing that I want or just an artist that I didn't know about or whatever. But then you also get five really shitty videos in return that just show you nothing and it's just gonna like melt your brain for a second. - It's like a legit drug. I think when they do the base trials for like literal social media addictiveness, like I think it's a legit addiction, right? Like it has to be like in a hundred years like they will consider that like, oh, you're an addict. - Do you think so? - Oh my god, I'm just like, I'm walking. Like that felt, you know what I mean? - Yeah, epiphany. - Yes, it has a song called epiphany. - Saylor? - Yep, and it's really, really moving. - Like all of the other songs? - You wanna know what song I think you would like. - Tell me. - It's called Peace. - Peace? - And it's about her then boyfriend Joe Allen or like, or maybe it's not, I don't know, up to interpretation. But basically in the song she is like saying to her lover, like would you still love me in no way that like-- - If I was a worm? - No, what? - Would you? - No, what? Like if they're like, there's always gonna be in some type of issue and it's always gonna be like difficult to be like in a relationship with her 'cause she's so public. And she is like-- - Well, I would like that though. - Because she's like, will you still love me regardless? Like will your love for me be strong? It's like just like your name. Like, you know what I mean? Like she's really good at describing it. - Like, why did you think of me? - I don't know. I felt like you're a public guy and you have a girlfriend and like, I don't know, that must be difficult. - That's the issue in that song? - No, am I explaining this wrong? - You need to do whatever you need to do. I'm your guest. - No, you're my guest. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, you need a break. Um, you need to hear the bathroom? - I can't tell. (laughing) - What? - Literally a baby. (laughing) Literally a baby. Like. - Why did you invite you here? - No. - It seems like you got the really comfy chair. - Do I switch? - Yes. - I'm so much more comfortable. - You are? - Yes, are you? - Yeah. - Oh, my god. - We need it this. - We, mm, mm. - Take those off. - Are you in any type of rush? - Rush? - Yeah, like, do the plans. - Not really. I feel like time doesn't exist in this little, in this, within these four walls. Time is a construct. (laughing) Right? 'Cause also you guys, you guys got all the black out. - I sometimes, I feel like I see this place in my nightmares. (laughing) - Do you know why I'm here? - Yeah, I do. - You know what? (laughing) Honestly, I think it's because of the fake stone wall. - Oh, I said that. I said that to Louise. I see what's like. - You need you guys to do something about that. - Oh, you can't tell. - I can tell. I can tell these-- - I can tell on camera too. - Yeah, you really think that's fucking real brick. - Most people do. - No, they don't. - Jettieman, like. - There's comments about that. People say, like, love your brick wall. - Okay, but like, how fun would it be if it was like, something else? - Like a rug. No. - I am gonna pee. And while I pee, you'd need to tell me what your therapist is about. Without you here. (laughing) - Oh, yeah, why don't you do that? I've never had a confessional before. - Oh, yeah. - That would be fun. Like, while I go pee, you can look in your camera and tell the camera. This is one, I guess there's no point to back 'cause then who would respond? People in the comments. Oh, I'm gonna go pee. (upbeat music) - Do you guys like my shirt? - Love. - Love. You like the Stroke Snowland? - I love the Strokes. - So do I. - And you know what else I love? Vintage merch. 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So having a site that allows me to find pieces that make me feel happy and a part of something is really important to me and it also helps curate my own style. Like I would have never found this shirt anywhere else other than Deepop 'cause it's like one of a kind secondhand. If you have clothes in your closet that you're not using they have value just because you don't value them still they have value and Deepop helps give those clothes new life. Deepop makes it literally so easy to sell them all my friends sell on Deepop. It's one of their favorite things to do. The other amazing thing about Deepop is that there is no seller fees which is really rare transparently like it really is a platform for the seller and the buyer only. And that's awesome because then you have more money in your pocket and then maybe you can find clothes that you want on Deepop as well. I've literally bought so much stuff on Deepop these past few weeks that I'm gonna be wearing and like the coming therapist episodes and oh I'm just so excited. I really do love Deepop it is such a fun way to shop. Like makes shopping so fun. Shopping is always fun but Deepop makes it particularly fun because you feel like you're making these like personal connections with people. Download the Deepop app to start selling list and your first item takes only a few seconds and someone out there is already looking for your style. Thank you again Deepop for sponsoring this episode. This episode of Therapus is brought to you by booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Well what better guest to have on than to have this ad because Mao travels a lot for his shows. He has shows all over the world. And if you want to see him, booking.com will make it easier. I know that Coachella is next week. Some of you still might who are going still might not have a place to say booking.com has you. 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We would show up to a city and Matt would be booking our stay as we pulled up to the city because he had that much faith in booking.com to plan your summer travels, to plan any travel, to plan a trip, anything. Booking.com is the best place to do it. Find exactly what you're booking for at booking.com. Booking.com, yeah! Book today on the site or in the app. Now making an album. Let's talk about the album. Right. What is it? The name? No, of like, when is it coming out? I don't know. It's super stressful to be honest. Have you come up with it? Sorry, have you come up with the name? Yes. Have you publicly announced the name? No. OK. No, there's like nothing to be found on whatever this is. OK. You don't have to be said, no, no. I thought you were like, you should know this, and I had a real problem. Absolutely not. No, it's more like, I committed to doing this, and I already posted a line that I'm doing this. And so people are going to hold me accountable. Do you have any inkling of the name? Yeah, but it needs a whole backstory and everything. And that's a long story. Oh, really? No, I was thinking more like, doesn't even matter if I say the name right now or I don't. And then people have something to think about what they want. Yeah, I think it'd be cool if you would announce your album name here. I think that would be cool. Just as a friend you're saying that, right? Yeah, yes. Yeah, I mean, look, here, let me tell you this. I would be happy if you told me on camera or off camera, really and truly would it be cooler if you set it on camera? For sure. But I want to know, regardless. I mean, I've been thinking. about the name but I've had this name even before starting on an album like it's been sort of with me for a long time and I've called like companies that name that I have that no one will see okay I'm just on the edge of my seat but it's do you know what an anagram is yeah like like like why are you laughing I don't think I do I'm thinking of like I'm thinking of like when like you have to find a word in another word so if I'm right it's like an anagram is like if you flip the letters around a bunch you get another word know where yeah that's what I thought I thought I didn't know that by the way so what's your what's your anagram okay so my dad's name is Gerbrand okay carebrands in Dutch and he passed away when I was 18 oh I'm sorry and he taught me everything I know about music so everything I'm doing in music sort of always honors him and so the like an anagram I had of his name is rebrand wow and then I chose the G as the first words which is going to be generation rebrands and it's sort of like really beautiful yeah and every time I look at those words I like see my dad's name and it makes so much sense because I did a rebrands and like I did a whole career of a different name and then I switch my name and then I became successful wow that's a cool name right that's a really cool name and that like it's so meaningful to you yeah I'm so like happy for you that you've found such a great album title that means something to you so you feel like that should be the one I really do that's so beautiful and like the way you just described it like that is so authentic to you authenticity always wins right it really always does and like no matter what anyone thinks like that is what you wanted and that is what you keep going back to and like that is what you should name your album yeah that's awesome yeah so I'm working on that so I don't have time to make the Taylor Swift remix I totally understand what are you therapist about today there's one thing I've been pissed about for a really long time and it's that so I go to a lot of hotels where I have to stay in a lot of hotels to play everywhere and a lot of hotels don't have one button to turn off all the lights and I have to get out of my bed and I have to turn them all off one by one and sometimes it's like the ones that stand you can't even find the button or anything yes so annoying I so annoying yeah right and how awesome is it when you're like in bed and it says master or we talk about bigger things no that was perfect okay but can I just add something because I'm actually therapist about this as well and I was thinking about this all the past week when it's master on master off but you want to keep the lamp just the one next to you on yeah and you can't have that's the best of both worlds you can't have it both I know that's not possible no no come on should be fine because then you have to master on and then go and manually click the rest of them off the sides of the lamp you want on next to you you've been living in an even bigger hell than me oh my god I never I never want to have that light on I just turn off the whole oh oh I like I like that light on sometimes if I'm like she's gonna say reading I'm gonna say like wanting to talk to people but still feel like it's light outside like you read I'm so much more comfortable on this couch I'm so happy we switched good do you feel more comfortable as well yeah it's nice oh my god I'm so excited to party with you in various and if we have fun Spain like if you like get on right I like the groups merge and like we have like a good time and like good banter like Spain in May we'll be like let's do this again how big is a group I allow a lot I have a lot of friends and why are you guys going to Vegas for conscious oh no way what's happening with coaches in Vegas it's the sweet and snacks Expo there's this sweet and snacks I guess well guys like you're playing they're the same weekend should I come to the sweet and snacks don't even play with me right now would you I'm a big advocate for coaches so really yeah of course so like I've just never met someone as passionate about it as me I love conscious we've loved them in this house for years where did you find them Brett went to Expo West which is a snack convention do they sell these in a store they sell them at five below and they sell them on Amazon but it's the goal now that it's gonna be so famous that it's yes I would I would that is the goal for it to be more accessible to people that's why I grew up I can't believe that yeah they're amazing catch us yes can you see it one more time catch us yes that's my logo and cut what are you saying what words catch us yes yes are you just saying yes yes yes yes three times yes catch us yes yes yes yes yes but what like can we think of something stronger for the slogan well you're the creative what what would your slogan be for them really cook up for a minute like like you need like I don't have a switch board but like really cook up for a minute they kind of look like bigger ecstasy pills really yeah have you ever seen ecstasy pills where they're like shaped in a no no I don't think I never know so they so they so they make them in all of the logos of like big companies so you'll have like a UPS exercise that doesn't scare you that doesn't feel like you're like to eat something that's about to like literally no it like makes it more fun do you think I would like it that's why it's called a Tesla it's the Tesla logo as a pill that's what you've never heard about a Tesla I would never take a Tesla ecstasy pill oh it in Vegas really I mean I guess if it was the only thing you had sure it's the best one okay sorry that's okay so the shapes have different flavor like like like what would your conscious theme song be theme song please they were doing slogan slogan no oh no I meant like they're thingy they're catchphrase catch us yes yes okay are you having fun yes do you swear yes okay so if I ask you let's also the fifth time you asked no I know so if I asked you to do another segment would you do it right now yeah like would you want to of course you want to do man he's corner first or do you want to do the tell me what's wrongs I want that envelope man he's corner is really quick and really funny all right that's okay so she is our co-worker and she she writes a little segment that we call man he's corner and some questions man he hats that man he's written okay okay is that good all right would you say you she's so funny would you say you owe your career to Benjamin Franklin because he discovered electricity he also invented the the urinary catheter what do you owe him for that she's so funny she's really funny actually but why is she not here she's on a flight she's what on a flight she's usually here I have to miss man he and I just get that I just get the envelope with the question yeah man he's awesome come on man he's awesome okay ready this one's just silly they are all you call you call yourself Maupee was Maupee taken actually there wasn't gonna be any pee at all okay yeah see this is what's the fun about man he's corner it was just gonna be Mau okay and what made you out the pee well my genius friend from M. Sam said I should add a pee because my nickname was Maupee which is spelled M-A-U-P-I-E which just means like little Mau in Dutch like pee like Jake P okay love yeah well let's okay great so man he's corner got his in answer yeah of course yeah yeah um people think it's my last name pee like something with a pee that's what I think yeah as well yeah hold on I need to answer my friend Alice really quickly hey girl I'm filming therapist with Maupee hey okay I love you I love you what does that sound just like a little like mating call don't you have something like that with your best friend no okay yeah I want to tell you her you love her I love you many no that's Alice that do that say I love you Alice in the camera yeah I love you Alice this is the best for me and Alice you're the best man Alice are like this though yes you would love Alice she's gonna be it's we took snacks with me and we're gonna go see you live this is not like you made a plan and it's not gonna happen right in Vegas because there's also people they'll be like oh yeah I'm gonna go see you there and there we're gonna do this and then then then you never see them you're like we're actually gonna do this right because I'm like so down really yeah oh my god yes right I was gonna follow up but I was gonna have the anxiety of being like oh I feel like he doesn't actually want me to do this and you just saying that just now made me so much like yes I did want I do want yes of course oh my god I'm so excited but then I'm surprised that not everybody thinks like that like we just made a plan to me that's like okay let's that's gonna happen right 'Cause I'm not bullshit. I know, but like, sometimes you never know. - I'm not bullshitting either, we're gonna be at Sweden snacks. Like it's not like I have to like, you know, I'm like, okay, like let me double check that we can all fly. Like, you know, like we all already have a girls trip planned. So like you just made, it's like you made our bachelor at 10 times better. - And when is it May? You said bachelor at? - Just like girls trip. Okay. - So what's next? - These are the tell me what's wrongs. The pussy's calling and they submit tell me what's wrongs. And we give them advice based on what we think. - Can you please repeat what you just said? - Oh my God. So the pussy's right in and they write and they tell us what's wrong. - The, the pussies? - Yes. - What's the pussies? - Octopussies, that's what the, my followers are calling. - Oh, I'm so sorry. - Sorry. - I'm sorry to all the octopuses. - No, the pussies. - The pussies. Can I ask you a question? What does the octopus have to do with? - 'Cause I used to rate octopus on my Instagram account. - Used to what rate? - Yes. - An octopus? - Yes. - By looking at it? - I would eat it. - Oh, okay. I grilled? - Yes. - I love octopus. - So do you want to get octopus in Vegas? - Where though? Where do they have them? - So many places have octopus. - Which one? - I don't know, probably like carbone. - Yeah. Absolutely, let's do it. - Okay, cool. - And then they wrote you the octopi? - I eat it and then I go mm. It's good. Texture's a little off, but it's salty. Seven point two out of eight tentacles. - That's how you got famous? - Yeah. (laughing) - Is there a big octopus community? - No, people just thought I was funny, I guess. - Oh, you did it in a really, you way. - Yeah. - Right, that's a big, big sip for a big boy. (laughing) - You want to describe me as big? - No. - Right. - I mean like mentally big. - Okay. - Yep. - And you just like swallow. - The water? - Yes. - Where's my water? - Do you want to drink water too? It's like, I've been drinking a lot of water lately. - Should we do a shot at Tsukila? - Yeah, you're lying, yeah, fuck it. - Right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - I feel like that would help for this section. - Oh, okay. - It's like, get into our emotions a little bit. - I can't already do that. - This is. (laughing) - Mal, you are amazing. Oh my God, this is the therapist on Julio. I was just kidding. - There we go, that's what I mean. - I've never opened it. Should we chill this? Like, should we have ice cream? - No. - Well, yeah, do you want to do the honors? Okay, but I would just like to give some backstory. - All right. When John Julio gifted this to me, I thought I was really special, so we kept it. I, you know, and so, yeah. - And now we're putting it to good use. - Yeah. - No one opened this the whole time? - No. It was just something, it was like, oh, this is cool art. - It is. - Yeah. But now how cool to share this moment with you. Okay, you, you, I don't have an end. Oh, oh, oh, thank you. Thank you, I was so confused. - It's okay. - Are you ready? - Ready? - You're gonna count down. - But you have to do, you have to do, I thought we were gonna say three, two, one. - You have to do eyes. - Eyes? - Yes, you have to look me in the eye. - I always do eyes. - Okay. - Yes. - Cheers. - Okay, yes. Honestly, that tasted really nice. Wow, my friend won't accept that I'm okay. Let me explain. I have this one friend and she's always checking in on me. And while there is nothing wrong with that, I will say that perfectly fine and I'm just, it's just my resting face, but she keeps trying to get me to say what's wrong. I already have a friend, I tell my issues too, because we have similar problems, but she just won't stop. Help. It's getting annoying, but I don't wanna be rude. Okay. I'm gonna have a hard time answering that because I'm the friend that's like, are you out of me? - So how would you answer that? 'Cause like, I'm like that too, I have sort of a resting bitch face. - Okay, so it annoys you. - There will be people at my show that are just like working the production, whatever, and I'm like about to go on stage. It's like, and that's what I live to do. Like, that's my passion, but my face will be like, and they're like, can I do something for you? Like, are you okay? Like, wow, wow, I'm like, I'm about to do what I was born to do. So, like, why would you ask that question? And it's just my face and I can't control it. Like, I can't permanently smile or look happy, you know? - You can't. - But I am. - It's the hardest you've ever smiled. Now that I'm like thinking about it. - What? - Wait, do you go like this? - Of course. I can. (laughing) - For you. - Okay, cool. I just didn't see that. This app, a sode. Really? - This app. (laughing) - Now I'm like, oh, I guess I don't know what you look like, smiling, but now we do. - Maybe you weren't looking. - Oh, hell, here we go. I am a bad listener, so that wouldn't be shocking. - So we answered her thing? - Yeah, I think, right? What was her thing? Oh, yeah, be direct. Be direct. - That's it. - I was at a concert in Camden, New Jersey, and I was blackout drunk and about to throw up. My best friend walked me to the side of the venue and then left me there throwing up so she could go back inside. With a guy, no. I've never brought it up, but I think about it all the time because I'm always the one who takes care of her when she's drunk. - Ah, that's so annoying. I feel bad for her. - Very bad. - That's so annoying, that's so annoying. I feel bad for her. - Me too. - Tell her. - And then, I think she's scared of her leaving her. - What? - Leaving her? She left her to puke for a guy. - Would you do that? - No. - For a girl? - Yes. (laughing) - Yeah, I mean, at the same time, I wasn't the one that drank so much I had to puke. - Oh hell, but she takes care of her. - Oh, she does, right? - She takes care of her. - Yeah. But let's say if it was like a raging alcoholic friend that like this happens all the time. - Do you have friends like that? - I wish. - No, you don't. - You drink a lot? - Yeah. - This is all a test. Like I got you to smoke weed and drink during your own episode. - Wait, yeah, like. - You have no backbone. (laughing) - I can talk you into anything, we're going to Vegas. - And the thing is, I'm gonna do it. - Yeah. - And I'm gonna have a really fun time. - Perfect, I love that. - I love that. - I'm so excited. Now I have something to look forward to. Yay. - I will make sure that it will be the best trip. - Ever? - Ever. - Okay, but will you stop by sweets and stocks if you're there? - But I think that's a date before I know it. - You know what, just make sure my day with you when you do this whole DJ set. - Yeah. - Like, let's have a good old Vegas time. - I promise. - Okay, cool. My sister and I planned a trip to Hawaii together and I just found out she invited her boyfriend. He's nice, but now I'm gonna be the third wheel on a trip that was supposed to be just us. I know they're gonna wanna do a couple things and I'll be left alone. What should I do? Okay. - Damn. - I would do the same thing as her sister. If I had a boyfriend, like, if I got a boyfriend after planning a trip with my friend, I'd be like, well, can they come? I would, sorry. - What if they want a quality time? - Of course, yeah, it sucks. But sometimes you have to be selfish in life. And like, like, it sucks. Like, it just sucks. And you don't know until you're that person. Like, until you're that person, you can shut on them all they want. But then when you are that person and you're in that situation and you just wanna spend 24/7 with your fucking boyfriend, yeah, you're gonna be selfish and ask if you can come on the trip with your sister out of all people. Yeah, you're gonna ask. You're like, you'll love me no matter what. So just love me for this. - I don't know. Okay, totally, explain. - Like you have to see your boyfriend 24/7 when your sister asks for like some time for you and her. - Yeah, no, it's, yeah, maybe then just say, well, okay, okay. - 'Cause the key word here is boyfriend. - But I think maybe the sister wants to spend time with both of this. - I did not hear Husband. That's not family. Your family, direct family, blood is asking, do you wanna spend time with me and go on a trip? You're like, what a half this boyfriend? He has to come. Yeah. - Do you have siblings? - Yeah. - Would you think I'm an only child? - Yes. (laughing) - I'm sorry, absolutely. I don't know why. - No, but yeah, everyone says it. - I've been seeing this guy for a week or two now. We've been on a few dates. Last night, I finally went over to his house to potentially hook up. When I see him, he has a life size, Guy Fieri cut out in his living room, living room. Not a word, not a word was spoken about it. Biggest egg of all time, he's hot, so you got it with past it. I'm just asking about it. If he's hot, look past it. - Maybe it's a joke. - Yeah, sue him for an inside joke. You know, like, I have inside jokes around my house. - I didn't see any inside jokes. Oh, I saw donuts in a frame. - That's not an inside joke, but it makes sense to us. - I have to say, your house was very clean. - People used to never say that. - But was it you? Was it your fault? - No, it was all of our fault. It was a pickstuy, but then the go-to girls came and saved the day. Okay, so you have to look past the guy Fieri thing. We need to stay on course here. - Yeah. - Like sweating, my palms, my face. Is anyone else sweating? - Nope. - Okay, cool. My roommate constantly breaks my shit when she's drunk and owes me like $200 worth of stuff [BLANK_AUDIO] destroyed. She makes me feel like she's the victim whenever she does this the morning after saying things like it's hereditary. Oh, pay you back for it soon, et cetera. What do I say? Say bitch, it's not hereditary. You broke my shit. And if you don't pay me $200, we're gonna have a problem. What does that mean? Hereditary? I don't really know. Like it's like inherent. Yeah. I think she's like trying to make joke of it or something. I don't really know. We're saying like she's from a family of alcoholics. Just be like bitch. No, you broke my shit. I will help you. Whatever. But you broke my shit. You owe me money. Sometimes things in life have consequences. These are some really annoying like situations though for people. Yeah. You get a new batch every week. Yeah. There's actual people that send in this. Yes. You had to pass that post our column. Tell me what's wrong. Leave a name in that number. But do they also like give you a debrief? Like it went amazing. And thank you so much for your advice. Do you ever hear back from them? Do we know where they know and get stuff? I've not really seen that before know. No, I'll get DM sometime. Okay. I get no yes. Yes. I get DM sometimes. I get DMs sometimes being like I was the girl. Like for example. Uh-huh. When Glenn Powell came on this show, we called somebody sent their number. It was the therapist and we called or an astrologist and we called them or something. Uh-huh. Or we said like we called this girl. She was at the stage door for my play on Broadway and was like I was the girl you called with Glenn Powell, the therapist. And I wrote you an astrology reading and I have it in my room. That's awesome. Isn't that awesome? Yeah. It's pretty cool. That must be very like, uh, I don't know what the word is. It makes me feel like oh my god. How full circle. That's so sweet. And I feel like a real connection. That's like the payoff for what you do here. I think right? That someone comes back to you and is like the thing that you did here in this little room with these people on this camera like actually made a difference. Oh yeah. Right? Yeah. When do you feel those moments? When like I do my work, I DJ and I see people enjoying themselves and like forgetting about their everyday life. Oh, because that's what I do. Like for me, like I make music and for most people, music is like an escape, you know? It is. It's for me. It is. That's what Taylor Swift is for me and escape. Yeah. My mom just started dating the dad of the girl who bullied me all throughout high school. Now she keeps inviting them over for dinner and expects me to be nice. I'm literally 25 and I feel like I'm in high school again. That's there's like weirdly attention. There's still what do I do? I put scribe the movie you again. Do you remember that movie? So fucking fire. So fire and it will tell you what to do. Have you seen? Of course you haven't seen you again. Sorry. We have. I'm not going to say we have to watch it because I can't understand it's asking a lot of you, but like it's a good. It's like actively a good movie. Who plays in that? I forget. I think Betty White's in it. If I remember correctly. Oh my god. Fuck. It's so good. I remember the first time I saw that I was like, this is awesome. And it's about this situation. Yes. It's literally that situation. So that's our advice. Watch the movie. Yeah. Sometimes all you need is an escape like that. All right. I'm talking to this on the end is really funny. What was the other thing I had to watch? Mr. Robot. You've seen Mr. Robot. Yeah. But I want to watch it again now. Okay. Mm-hmm. Have you seen the show Dark? Yes. With the German kids. Like were you like obsessed? At first I was. Yeah. But then it just keeps being dark for so long. What? It's called dark. Yeah. Right. Yeah. There's three seasons. I know. But like, you got over the plot. I was a little bit done. Yeah. No. No. No. The ending is so beautiful. I saw it. I think you saw all three seasons. I think so. Yeah. I must have. I was obsessed. Do you remember the theme song? The theme song was also really dark. Oh. The body. Give me a sign. That was the theme song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was skip it. Oh. I loved it. Yeah. Have you watched Sopranos? No. And I keep meaning too. You should. Is it that good? Yes. Should it be my next bitch? Let me tell you something. Know about me in a bench. When I get in a bench, it's a dark spot. It's eight seasons. It's a dark spot. Like I just did homeland. Whoa. Like anything goes during a bench. Like anything goes like I like I devote myself to that world. How do you how would you do that with this? I don't know. I'd probably become obsessed with the Italian Mafia because that happened to me for a brief moment during COVID. I watched a short series or a docu series about the mob in New York. And I watched good fellows. So good. So good. I'm kind of talking to this guy and he's really hot and successful. But he sleeps on his couch every night with his roommate, even though he has his own room with a bed because he doesn't want to be alone. I don't know what to do. That was kind of funny. Like that's like you think he's gay. Yeah. You do. Yeah. Maybe then I'm invalidating male like male affection towards platonically towards each other. What other reason would there be for him to like or like just sleep together all the time and they're not girls. Wait. So what should she do about the boyfriend? Don't date him. Yeah. Because he's not going to tell you if he's guy, if that's the reason, he's not going to tell you. And you're always going to be wondering. So let's ask. No. No. No. That's not an option. I'm sorry. No, I mean, like just ask the guy. Well, like, what's up? What's up? What did you think? I thought you were saying like, don't ask don't tell. Like maybe just go like in blind. Like, you know, oh my God, you're not like you're not from America. You have this thing called don't ask don't tell. And gay people weren't allowed to be in the army. Did you know that? Yeah. Oh, okay. But what's the don't ask don't tell? That was the rule. Oh, it was like you can be gay, but we can't hear about it. No, I mean like for her. And if we find out you're gay, you're going to get kicked out. It's not crazy up until like I like remember going away. Don't you? Like Louise is. I'm a ally. Louise is an ally. Are you an ally? Like do you have gay friends? Of course. Oh my God, obsessed with that for you. Really? I mean, I love the guys. And you know why? Because they like start up my whole scene. Tell me everything. You didn't know that. Like house music, everything was started by gays. Like it was hippies, gays, like gay parties and like Mekonos was like a big party island. Ibiza was all gays. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Cause like they were like feeling so free and they wanted to dance and blah, blah. That's what's their escape, I guess. Wow. You should perform a pride. Would you do that? Of course, but like in Amsterdam is such a big thing already. It's like everyone's just out on the streets. It's so fun. I caught my roommate watching me through the crack in my bedroom door one night when she thought I was asleep. I pretended not to notice, but now I feel weird every time I'm home. Do I confront her or pretend it never happened? Obviously able to describe the roommate we'd late in the Easter, but continue. Yeah. When do you decide when it's like wrong? I don't know. Because I can imagine me walking by a room and I see you sleep and I look like when is it turns to spying? When do you think it turns to spying? When she actively like enjoys. Well, how do you like give it a time period? Cause I would be like looking. I was like, who was sleeping? Then I would leave. Like so that's what my friend house is sleeping. She'll sleep in a funny position and like I'll take a photo of it and send it to her in the morning. This feels like a deeper situation. I mean, I would definitely like distance yourself. But even, okay, so this is written by her, the lady who spied, right? She feels so wrong about it that she had to send you a question about it, a message. Yeah. I don't know what she should do. So it's definitely a problem for her. So we should tell her to like take care of it. You shy. You know what though? I wouldn't confront the roommate cause the roommate could be psycho. I wouldn't tell her. I would tell someone else. I feel like she has a problem with herself. The roommate? No. The girl that's spying. She has some stuff to figure out. Like leave the roommate out of it. How can she get like how she needs to get out of the situation like, like, as calmly and professionally as possible as possible? Like that's how a spy would think. She has to think if she wants to, if this girl spying on her, she needs to act like a spy. Like I just watched homeland and in homeland, they had to like handle shit like spies do to battle other people that were like wishing them harm. Wait, did I read it wrong or did I understand it wrong? Well, what should we talk about now that we're friends? What do friends talk about? I like to talk about gossip with my friend. Gossip? Yeah. It's like we're like old women like we sit, we like gossip and we judge way or just in like a informative way. Formative. Like oh, this happened to this person. Bob, did you hear about? Yeah. And of course there's criticisms of along the way as you would. Come on. You don't gossip a little bit. I don't enjoy it that much. I think we also like to watch television shows together. We like to party together. We like to talk about music, new music together. Any new music you're loving? I love Don Tolliver. Oh my God. His album is amazing. I've heard his new album. I know that on a highway and I'm thinking that I love that one. But I don't know the rest. What are some others that you would recommend to me on that album? Is that ATM that you were singing? I think it's E85. Oh, then I love ATM. ATM? That's to me. That's the best one. Okay. I'm going to listen to it after this. Do you want to know what new music I'm listening to? Yes. Okay. I'm listening to, right now, a song by Robbie Robbe, called In Time. I used to be obsessed with it when I was watching Mr. Robot. You love this song, Ellen, so good. In Mr. Robot, there's a really good needle drop with it. And so I think about that. I've been listening to Leaving Tennessee by Carter Faith, which my best friend will put me onto today, like my country era. I've been listening to-- - This country? - Yeah, I've been listening to, sorry I meant tonight by Mike and Maroney. - You've listed a lot of country? - Sometimes, yeah, I love good lyricism. Like I love good storytelling. That's why I love to listen to so much. She tells such a beautiful story. I've also been listening to her song Dear Reader, which is really good. And I've been listening to her song Maroon a lot. - Do you like Mac Miller? - Yeah, you know what? I've never been able to get-- No one's ever told me, like, 'cause I feel like he's kind of like, it's like he has so much work. I want to know which to go to first, like how should I have my experience with this song? - You're right, you're right. - What's your favorite album? - Wait, do you like Shade? - No, I've never gotten into Shade. - What? What are you talking about? - What? - You reacted this way too? Okay, so how, let me get-- - You don't know Mac Miller, like, you would love Mac Miller. - No, I know I would love Mac Miller. I know, I know. - I make a playlist. - So you've had an era with him? - Beyond. - Okay, will you make me a playlist? 'Cause one time she made me a playlist, and it worked really well. - 'Cause you tailored it to his taste? - Cool. - Okay, yeah, I've been listening to E85 by Don Talver. I've been listening to a reverie. I say I can't sleep. Have you been listening to Sarah Kinsey at all? She's amazing. And then I've been listening to, have you watched Paradise? - What's that? Paradise? - Let me put you on. It is a television show. - About the end of the world. And it's really well done, and it's amazing. And it's my favorite show and television right now. - Doesn't sound like I would like it with the end of the world. - What do you watch? What do you watch, what are you watching? - Well, I just finished the sopranos. And then-- - Okay, I'm gonna go for it. I didn't have anything new. - You know what, maybe not. - Oh, I'm just like rewatching Entourage every-- - You know I've never seen Entourage. - You kidding me? - No, it's very intimidating, so I need to pick one, okay? Depends. Should I watch Entourage? - Yes, absolutely. It's also like culturally you have to understand a couple things that are going on in Entourage. - Okay. - It's very similar to your life, I think. - Really? - Yeah, and mine. - I really got to compliment whatever you just had. - Yeah, I also don't know what I mean, but-- - Okay, so Mal, what did we learn today? - Uh, you're awesome. - Shut up! - And you need to change that wall. - Wow, that's what you learned. That was like the first thing that came to your mind too, so I know you meant it. - Of course. - Okay, what I learned is that we are about to have a really fun weekend to look forward to. - Yes. - The sweets and snacks are both for me and your concert for you, but-- - Gotcha, yes, yes, yes. - Gotcha, yes, yes, yes. - You do four? - No, I just-- - You got a little extra by accident. Okay, well, Mal, thank you for coming on the show. This was just phenomenal. - I was in a really real-- - Sensational. - Yeah, I was in a really-- - It breaks my heart, we have to end. - All right, me too. Louise, she's like my babysitter. Well, I've had such a good time. - Me too. - I was in a really bad headspace before this. I thought I was gonna cry. Like, I actually felt like I was gonna cry. - Today? - Yeah, I was in a really, really bad headspace. I was in a really, really, really, really, really bad headspace and doing this with you. - Awesome. - Even though I might reenter that headspace later. - You have something good to think about. - I've really enjoyed myself and found joy in my day because of you, so that's what I learned. - Love. - Love. - That's great. - You, not yet. - Love you. - I'm in love, I just say love. Like, when you say something, I love-- - You tease it hard for me to say I love you. - No, but we just met. Like, I made that mistake before with people, so. - What do you mean? - Like, go into deep too soon. - Yeah, but this isn't a romantic relationship. - Oh, I know. (laughing) - Stop it. - Why are you excluding that conversation? - I stopped. Okay. Malpia, thank you for coming on therapist. - Thank you for having me. - Sorry, can you say bye, plus he's in Dutch now? - Do he cut his? (upbeat music) - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. 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