Session 110: Luke Combs

- For decades, a shadowy organization called The Lemonati has kept lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Look around, lemon-forward sodas, even lemon-forward songs. We ran the tracks, slowed them down, reversed them, and squeezed out the truth. ♪ All hail the lemon ♪ - That's lemon propaganda right there. But now, 7UP is fighting back with their new lime-lemon soda. Join the 7Uprising, flip the sip. - Hi, pussies, welcome back to Therapuss. I know I look a little tired, but that's because I just got home from finishing my Broadway. Oh, ba-dum. - What? What? - Oh, so you don't watch the show. - Nope. - No, what? Of course I don't. Why do you say ba-dum? - Ugh, I can't. Are you watching Paradise? - I haven't started yet, but I watched the first season. - Oh, the second season? Shit's on the first season. - Wait, seriously? And Shailene's in it? Huh? - She's undeniable. - I love Shailene. - Are you watching Paradise? Season two is fucking spectacular. - Okay. - Like, actually specta-- - Wait, what happened at the end of season one again? They escaped on the plane, they went-- - He, and he left his kids there. - Oh, damn. - To search for his wife, because remember-- - Oh, because the wife is alive. - Because remember, she found the thing that said, like-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm out here, I'm out here. - Oh my God, no. - Wait, I have full body chills. - No, wait. - Honestly, are you watching? - No, no, no, episode four. - Wait, I'm gonna watch tonight. - Episode four, a really acoustic version of ♪ Can't help falling in love ♪ - Oh, so he found the way. He found the way. - No. - I mean, I guess I'll just watch it. - It's, Julia, it's unbelievable. It's like actually unbelievable. - I have so much to watch right now. - Well, put it at the top of your list. - Paradise. - Okay. - I am super behind on Love Story. - Me too. - Because I was away and then Peyton was like, "We can't watch it without each other." - Yeah. - And then-- - Well, I got hooked on Paradise, is what happened with me. - And then Bridgerton. - Didn't it end? - No, there's a new season. It's half, they do it in parts. - Yeah, apparently people were not happy with the second half. - Oh, really? I think it's the best show ever made. - Why? - It's so good, and every season gets better than the next. - Look, I'm not doubting, I am, I just don't like period-- - You're doubting. - I don't like period pieces. That's my one thing with it. If it was anything but a period piece, I would watch it. - You don't like period pieces? - They don't have phones, like every-- - You've watched a period piece though. - Yeah, I have a movie to devote myself to a period piece television show. Like, I don't know if I can do that. Like, I struggled with The Americans. Like, I would watch-- - What's that? - It's a show about two Russian spies living as sleeper cell agents in the US, like with a family. - Oh, that sounds cool. - Right? - But you don't like the period piece. - No, I did, I just, the first season didn't get me. - But Bridgerton's not really like a period piece, 'cause it's like, it's totally like fiction. Like, it's not accurate of the period. - Yeah, but they're wearing shit that's accurate of the period. - And they're talking, like, yeah, yeah. - They just, yeah, do they talk like that? - They talk like that. - Like what? - Like, they talk like old. - Like what? What do you mean? - Like, they don't talk like us. - What do you mean? - Okay, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think. Like. - I'm not gonna do it. - They say, like, betrothed. - Hate that. - You know? - Hate that. - I get it, honestly. It's like, it's kind of uncomfortable. - I just don't know what it means. So it's like, then I'm like, what are you talking about? - But it's like, I don't know, everyone in it is hot too. - No, I know that. - Yeah. - And the music is apparently amazing. - But it's all like, it's like, thank you, next, like, instrumental version. - Are you like, ever caught off guard by that? - And then sometimes I like, don't recognize the music, but I'm like, I know what this is, but it's like, a string quartet on a harp, version of like, We Can't Be Friends, or like, UConn. - Oh. - UConn. - Like, it's like, the most popular song. It's like, the most popular songs of now, but on like, a harp. - Does it ever throw you, or like? - The whole show is weird, honestly. - What's the premise of the show? It's like, the biggest show in the world. I have no idea what the premise is. - Okay, so basically, the first season is the best season. Okay? - The first season, it's like, there's this, it's kind of like, Gossip Girl, but like, based in like, the old. - Are they doing drugs? - There's like, some partying happening. - But what does the partying look like? Like, what's the scandal? - It's like, brothels, and like. - But what's the scandal? - Okay, so the scandal is that there's this woman writing, Lady Whistledown, and it's kind of like, Gossip Girl. And she's like, "Yes." And so she's like-- - Wait, stop! This sounds interesting. - Yes, okay. - So basically, like, the whole premise of the show is like, these girls are like, making their debut, and it's like, their first season on like, the marriage mart. So they're all like, looking to get married. And then like, the queen like, names a diamond of the season, and like, the diamond of the season's obviously like, Daphne Bridgerton. And she falls in love with the duke. Well, do you want me to just tell you? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - But basically, like, there's this Lady Whistledown, like, writing, 'cause she's like, snooping around. - And are they like, "Who the fuck is Lady Whistledown?" - And the queen is like, "Who the fuck is Lady Whistledown?" - Do you watch? - I watched the first season. - And did you like it? - Yeah. - So is it a one and done for me? Like, maybe I won't wanna do two? Like, it's a one and done? - You don't need to keep watching the season. Like, there are like, all the seasons are different plots. - Wow, okay, how fun. - Well, what else is up? - I am so excited that I feel like we're approaching summertime. - Mm-hmm, it's really warm in New York. - Mm-hmm. - It's warm here. - Mm-hmm. - I'm loving it, in shorts. - Okay. - Spring has sprung. - Okay. Yeah. - Holy fuck, I have nothing to talk about. - No, no, no, no, no. I'm taking it in, I'm taking it in. 'Cause like, should we like- - Why aren't we talking about the weather? Oh my God, do we talk about that many things that we just have nothing to say anymore? We're talking about the weather. - No, I hope in the summer that like, we have a lot of really fun New York nights out. - That I can see happening. But the traveling of it all? - I need to work on my anxiety. - I don't really even know why you bother. - With what? - Traveling. - I know, well, New York is the only place I like to go to. - But that's not traveling. Like, that's like another version of home. - Yeah, but I'm lucky to say that. - Very lucky. But I'm just saying like, I feel like the last time we went on a trip together, like you didn't have like one minute of fun. - No. I'm just like, how do, I can't not be, that's who I am. - I get it. - That is who I am. - I get it, I get it. I get it. - Oh my God, I have something. - You have something to talk about? - I just like, don't look forward to anything that doesn't have to do with me. - With you. That's, and you know what? Like, that's why everyone loves you, okay? Don't change. - Really? - Yeah, I mean like, is it frustrating? Yes. Is it funny? Also, yes. - You know what? Cassidy's birthday weekend will be so fun. - Okay, so. - That'll be fun. Peyton's birthday, whatever we do for Peyton's birthday will be so fun. - I think we should go away. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. Can I bring one thing up? - Sure. - Can we talk about how you quoted "Peace"? - Julia, that was what I was gonna say. - No way, that's really sweet. - That's what I was gonna say. - Oh, I love you. - I quoted it in a situation that was like, so-- - It was very dramatic of you. - It was very dramatic. Like, it was very dramatic. - Like, to the point where like, he said that and I was like, hey, I don't know if you were looking to me for validation, but like, I can't give it to you. - You know, he like, fully said it. - No, I meant it in the moment. - No, I know, I said, what did you say? There's robbers to the east, clowns to the west. I'd give you my sense, that's exactly what you said, didn't you? - I didn't include the robbers to the east. - But the rain is always gonna come when you're standing with me, is what he said. And it's like, I want you to take a second and I want you to think about it because I couldn't help you there. - I didn't tell anyone. I texted my group chat a few days later and I said, it's time I admit something. I quoted "Peace" in like, a serious way in that situation. And Julia, no one responded. - No one responded actually, no one responded. - I think I just laughed at the message. - Nope, I don't remember 'cause I would've been like, isn't that so funny? I know you might've laughed, I don't know. - That was crazy of you. That was crazy of you. - Oh my goodness, gracious Lord. I need to stop smoking weed again. - Really? I feel like you've been doing good with it. - It makes me hilarious. - Yeah, but it's making you anxious again? - It's just like-- - Tired or-- - I don't know. - I wish that it didn't make me paranoid. - I can't tell if I'm anxious or bored, ever. - You get that. - I can't fucking tell. - I get that. - That's why Broadway was so good for me. - You were very busy. - I was so busy every single day. - So maybe the answer is you were bored. - I get anxious when I'm bored. - Okay. - Yeah. - Oh, do you wanna try "Cautious"? - Yes! - Okay, have you-- - Are these the new ones? No. - Have you had the rainbows? - Yeah, this is the original ones that we got. - Have you had the sours? - No. - I don't think so. - Do you like sour? - Yeah. - Okay, cheers. - Mm. - Mm. - Mm. - Watermelon? - Mm-hmm. - Mm. - Now try a blue. - Mm-hmm. - Mm, that's better. - You know what's something that's really good about them? The aftertaste fucks. - I think that they're better as you chew. - Yeah. - You bite into them and you're like-- - And it's not what you want. - And then you go, "Mm, better?" - Mm-hmm, better, better, better. And then you want more. I posted a video of Cass trying them. And so people were wondering where to get them. You can get them on Amazon. - Oh, they're all different shapes. Like a sun. - Yeah, try that one. That's probably a different flavor. - Mm. - Mm-hmm, yeah. - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. Okay, so-- - Wild and free foam. - Yeah. Oh my God, and Luke Combs tries them in this episode too. - Ah. - People were wondering where to get them. You can get them at Five Below A hat Yeah that one's fire And you can get them On Amazon If you're wondering Where to get them But we're working On getting them To more places Mmm Mmm I know I'm telling you It's like crazy Wait That is an explosion Of flavors I know I know I'm like freaking out I know I know Anywho You guys can get them On Amazon Five Below There's also a store locator On the website And Mmm I would love to take this time To Invite you Me Yes you Talk about something I look forward to Tell me right now Are you so excited I'm so excited We are going to The Sweet and Snacks Expo In Las Vegas Oh my god when You Me Brett Peyton Kennedy Cassidy Alice Like it's gonna be We're gonna have fun Okay And Louise will come Zach Zach said he'll come Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Zach Yes Zach Okay And we'll And we'll We'll do the candy We'll do the candy thing We'll have like the best time And then we'll go clubbing at night Wait what's this Why did you do that Like cause Like we'll just like Probably be at the booth Like partying Like tearing it up Like there's a booth Go Cotches Go Cotches Oh my god should we like Make shirts Yeah Oh my god this is good And all of us should be A different theme I'm like really excited About this Same Oh Okay Well on that note I love you Well Julia Thank you for being here Oh thank you Thank you I missed you I missed this And I missed you too I missed you too did you Yeah I did Be honest I did Skill of one to ten A ten I missed you okay That's nice okay Tonight's episode is with Luke Combs Whose album The Way I Am Is out March 20th Yay Luke He's amazing He's amazing I'm obsessed with him How's it going He really guided me through some times I love you pussies Enjoy the episode Hi pussies Welcome back to Therapus Today on Therapus We have One of my favorite artists Ever Luke Combs What's going on So it is I should probably tell you I have had Do you know what a crash out is Yep Oh you do Yeah Oh okay Yeah What is it to you I mean to me you're just Kind of losing your mind Yeah okay Love that Maybe you shouldn't Maybe you shouldn't Maybe it is You know validated Right Doesn't always have to be Well mine was like Half validated Half not But I had What many are calling A Luke My Luke Combs crash out Because I've been listening to Only Luke Combs Okay All week Okay For my crash out I like it Yeah so it's very full circle For the past five days That you're now here Yes I'm glad to be here man I'm happy You don't You do not live here full time I do not No Not even part time Okay I'm a full I'm a full time Nashville guy But I enjoy coming out I enjoy coming out for a week You know it's like It's enough for me Like a week So I can get it Like my fill Your fix in Yeah And then I'm like You know I grab some I grab some nice You know Overnight oats Or something You know Kind of like LA vibe meal And then I'm like They don't have Overnight oats in Nashville They do I'm just not anywhere near Where I live probably Oh okay I would imagine I would imagine Yeah But you're from North Carolina Yes Yeah I grew up in Asheville I was born in Charlotte And then Oh I love Charlotte Lived there till I was eight And then my parents moved to To Asheville So I basically grew up there And then when did you start Like you were in your choir Yep But when did you start Like kind of full time singing I mean for a job Like 22 Is when I started So that would be 13 years ago now Which is really crazy To think about So I'm 35 Soon to be 36 Which is just gross I feel like past 35 It's like Really The downhill slide Really begins I feel like at 35 You know Genetically speaking Oh but I heard that Your 30s are the new 20s Dude 30s are awesome I would highly recommend Being in your 30s You know If you have If you have the ability to do that You know Being in your 30s I would suggest it I love it Honestly I really do I feel like you're just kind of like You've got yourself figured out Like fully in your 30s At least I feel that way You know It's like you kind of like I don't know I mean also like I know Obviously my job is like Set in stone I've got some kids I'm married So like everything's kind of like Laid out So it kind of just To me it does feel like It's like 20s with money Is what 30s is Totally You know what I mean Totally At least that's the way it feels to me And what How old are your kids My oldest is three and a half And my youngest is two and a half So they like have no idea Like what you do They have not Like I feel like my oldest son Like just found out Like the day before this trip Like They've seen me Like on TV Like if I'm in an award show Or something Like mom will keep him up late If she's not there Or my parents will keep him up And like let him watch me sing on TV Like I opened the CMA awards this year And so that started at seven o'clock So like We like let him stay up And watch me sing And then put him to bed And they recognize me on TV They just Don't really understand Like they don't have any concept of like That that's not normal Totally Totally Oh yeah dad's just on Everybody's dad's on TV Right Or like everybody's dad sings on TV Or like everybody's dad sings on TV Or whatever So I was riding around With my son on our property Like he sits You know sit on my lap And drive the truck Or whatever Do his Do his You know Toddler thing And There was a My phone was on And had music playing on my phone And I had I think I had Jason Isbell Southeastern album Was like playing And just kind of cruising around And I said you see that guy On my phone And he was like Yeah And I was like Well he's He does what dada does Like he Like people You know Like he sings And people want to Like hear him sing Like that's what His job is And that's what my job is And he was just kind of like It was like he started To put it together a little bit Right When I was explaining it to him He'll get there Yeah Yeah And I try to like I remember being really worried About that When I started You know when we had Our first And even into our second It was like Well how do I Not control the narrative In any negative way But how do I get to be The person that tells them Yeah Right Because I asked a few Of my artist friends Who have kids older than me And I was like Hey man This is obviously We live a very different Lifestyle than Than most people And I said I want my I want my kids to have As normal of life As possible You know And protect them From the world And all these You don't want them to see Like everything That we see Straight away You know what I mean I feel like that would be Almost damaging in some way To like a young child To like Of course yeah Be doing all this Like buses And photos Photographs And all this crazy stuff So we don't like Share our kids on the internet Or anything And so They were like Well you I was like I just kind of want them To not know As long as they can not know Right And they were like Well you have to tell them Or someone else is going to Well yes Like if you Like if they go to school Like another kid Is going to tell them Or another kid's parents Or their teacher Like that's how They're going to find out And you want them To like hear it from you First Right And explain it in a way So they can say like Oh I know Right And like be Kind of just prepared In some way For that conversation And understand like Oh when people come up To dad at the grocery store Right Why are people doing that And help them understand that Instead of thinking That something scary is happening Right Yeah Instead of being like Why do all these people Want to come say You know Why do all these people Come say hi to my dad Or whatever So it's an interesting It's an interesting bridge To cross You know Something I never again Thought I would be dealing with But here we are You know There's been a lot of those Things over the years Do you Do your kids have A favorite song of yours That So back in the saddle My youngest son Was obsessed with that song But I feel like it was Just because it was The first one he ever Really like Listened to Heard and was like Receptive to music So it's not like I mean he's two and a half So When that song came Like when we singled That song It was really recently So he was just old enough To understand So it would like It'd come on the radio Or it'd like be In the background Of something on TV Right And then He would start like Asking for that song He knew it was me Singing Like they can recognize My voice Which I think is crazy Like I've got videos Of them like out Like they're out at the store And then like my song Will come on the speakers And they're like doing this They're like looking around Like They're like where's that Like they think I'm like there And stuff It's kind of sad A little bit No but it's like When you would watch TV As a kid You'd be like that This is real time Yes Yes And they would be like They're looking around for me And they're like That's Dada You know They recognize my voice Which is pretty cool Pretty cool to see Well that's amazing Yeah it's great I wanted to ask you about Where the wild things are Yep Because I was Listening to it the other day And then I was like I didn't know if it was like Autobiographical or what But I read that the song Had been floating around Nashville for a few years And then it got to you And you added a bridge to it Yeah so My I actually didn't write on it at all So one of my good friends Randy Montana Fantastic writer We wrote Beer Never Broke My Heart Together We wrote Sleep Us In A Hotel Room Together We've written a bunch of Great songs together That song had been Kind of famous In town Like there's a demo Of Randy singing that song And really great songs Have a tendency To kind of like Get passed around And like people are Texting them to each other And like man You gotta listen to this song So and so wrote You know And it's honestly Kind of a miracle That it had never been Cut by anybody Yeah it's great I'm not sure how It's not the easiest song To sing Like from a like Breath support standpoint Right You have to have a lot lot of breath to be able to like sing that song live and I think That was probably some, maybe some people's hesitance with that song. It's like, well, if I put the song out and it's a big hit and I have to sing it every night, well, can I even sing it every night? Right. It took me, you know, a couple days at rehearsal to like, of singing it. You know, we record it, puts it on the record, and then me and my band learn it before the record's even out. You know, because we're like, by the time we go to a show, like if the record's been out a day, people are like, we want to hear this stuff now. So there's not like, we try to get ahead of that. And so we're in rehearsal and I'm like, God, dude, like, I'm like, how am I going to sing this, you know? And so it just takes time and like repetition to go, okay, well, I'll breathe in this little micro window I have. I have to get a breath in this thing or I'm not going to, or I'm going to run out of breath in three lines. Right. If I just normally in a spot where I would normally just sing through, it might be a weird spot to try to take a breath. I have to like force myself to breathe at this moment or I'm not going to have breath by the end. But that song, it had been, it ended up in my phone probably in 2016, maybe. Oh, wow. I mean, it's been around for quite a while. And it had already been around sometime at that point, I believe. It wasn't like, hey, I wrote this yesterday, check it out. Right. I didn't even get it from Randy. Randy didn't send it to me. It was just like another writer was like, have you heard this Randy song? And I loved it. And at the time I had never cut anything that I didn't write. And I was at the end of kind of my, I guess it would have been, like my fourth record of getting old. And which was the same one Fast Car was on. And we ended the session that day and we had some time left and Fast Car was in the same boat as this. Like we had like an extra hour. And I was like, well, what if we just kind of, it wasn't like on the plan. Like it wasn't on the sheet of like stuff that we're going to cut. And I was like, man, I've always loved this Randy song. You know, and I played it for Jonathan, who's like best buddies with Randy, who produces my records with me. And he was like, we ought to do it, man. That song's awesome. You know, so we do it. And I, and again, didn't think it would be like, I mean, I, I knew it was a fantastic song, but it's like, it's a real story song. Like you kind of have to be paying attention. It's kind of like you're, it's kind of like you're all too well. Yeah. Like you, yeah, you've got to like be paying attention to what's going on. Right. And yeah, people just gravitated towards it. And I think that's, you know, that's ultimately what happens with all songs. I mean, I would say if I was trying to pick what I think would be a hit off any of my records, like 90% of the time, I'd be wrong. You'd be wrong. What do you think is going to be the hit off your next record? I mean, Sleepless is definitely a hit. Yeah. And just the amount of like impressions it has and, you know, people making videos with, like you can just kind of tell now. You couldn't tell as much even 10 years ago. It was like the record has to be out and people have to just, it gets on the radio and then it blows up and then it's like, that's how you find out. Now you can tease a song. I could leave the room and tease a song and basically tell you if it's going to be a hit or not because if it just, if it starts to go insane on the internet, I mean, that's basically, that's the new version of having a hit. Well, you know the internet well. You were on Vine. I was. I was, yeah. And would you post like six second videos if you just like sing it? Singing basically. Like I would, but you know how the, you know the tactic now, it's like you make a TikTok, you put the absolute best engagement part of the TikTok right at the front. Oh. And then it cuts away and then the video starts over. You're familiar with this. You may have seen it. No, I, is it like when you see somebody like doing a cooking video and they're like, and then they make the whole thing? Yes. Or it would be like, like let's say we're doing this little interview and you're, and you're clipping it up and I said something like super canceled or whatever it is. Oh no, we'd cut that. Don't worry. In a completely toxic world, you would put whatever I said that was canceled as the very first thing in the video. And then it would start, then the video would start and people go, when's he going to say the thing? I know he's going to say it because I've already seen it. Right, okay. It's like, it's like watering down people's attention spans like even more. Like you're going, I don't even want to watch the 30 second clip to see the good part. Show me the good part and then maybe I'll watch the rest. Do you ever do like when you watch TikTok videos to X speed? I've never, I've heard of people doing that. It will change your life. So then you just double, like double the content. It's just like, I don't want to hear it. Just get to the good part. And you like, this is why people are doing it. And you press down and 2X the whole thing. Well, let's bring Vine back, dude. We'll just do just the good part. You know they are. Do you know that they are? That's what I've heard. I know that's word on the street, but I haven't, I'll believe it when I see it. Does it still own, I know it was bought by Instagram. I don't fucking know. Like when it went away. Right. It was one of the other big social media companies. No, Twitter. It was Twitter. It was bought by Twitter. It was bought by Jack Dorsey. I wonder if he like, when he sold when he sold Twitter, if he kept the rights to that. To Vine? Would be an interesting. Do you have a favorite Vine of all time? I mean, there's a lot. I mean, look at all those chickens. It was a bit. You would. You would like that one. I mean, that one was like, I mean, I mean like, I mean like, I always forget that like the Paul brothers were like Vine guys. So many people. Shawn Mendes. Tons. Luke Holmes. I mean, truly, it's crazy. Like I never would have thought that that would be the, like that would be one of the biggest reasons for my success was like the ability to lay my own groundwork before my career even started. Like I was starting my career before it started without even knowing. You just, but you went into it with like no expectations. You were like, were you, okay, because I remember you were a bouncer at a club. Were you a bouncer at the time that you were posting these videos? Yeah, probably. Yes. Okay. And so you were just doing it to fuck around kind of. I was a bouncer and I worked at Izod folding clothes at an Izod store. Is that a Southern thing? It's like, are you rocking Izod right now? Bird? Oh, I was like, it's like, yeah, it's very like, like yachting, polo, that kind of vibe. Oh, so you were a country club kind of. Okay. Yeah, it was a retail store like in an outlet. Okay. What was your retail voice? If I came in and I was like, hi, I'm at Izod. Like I have a friend that works retail and she puts on an insane retail voice. Yeah, you would just be like, hey, sir, how are you doing today? You know what I mean? Like you kind of up the, you kind of up the tone a little bit. Do you ever deal with like a really difficult customer? See, here was my thing. It's like, like it's pet peeve for me. It's like, let's say I go into a store. It's a great store. I know what I want and I know not everyone's like me. I can understand that. But let's say I go into a store and you're at the end and it's like, you need any socks? We're running a deal on socks. They got stuff with like, they're selling me at stuff on the register. I'm like, it's too late. It's the end. Like I don't, if I needed socks, they'd be up here. I would already have the socks if I needed them. Is that what it, I don't think I've ever been to a store that's tried to like bargain socks with me at the front. You have not been to Izod then. Yeah. Because let me tell you what, when I was working there, that's the thing is, it was like, it was part of your job to like push the. Did you get commission? No. That's horrible. Of course not. That's evil. So then you're doing the like super uncomfortable thing that I hate people doing to me. The force to do it to other people. Right. And then you're like, sure, you don't want a nice Henley shirt, dude. And, and people are like, it's, it's the summer. Why would I want a Henley shirt? What's a Henley shirt? We got to get you, we got to up your game, dude. Well, what is that? Henley shirt? It's like a kind of like a long sleeve, like a thermal long sleeve. Okay. Pop it up. We need some. Okay. Can somebody get me a photo of a Henley shirt? It's like a, almost like a waffle knit, kind of like. Ooh, I love a waffle knit. That would be a Henley. Oh, I kind of want to go to Izod with you. It might be an. I've never seen that before. Yeah, this. Exactly. I've never seen that before in my life. Waffle knit. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably, waffle knit's probably the new word. Yeah. I'd say Henley's probably like, if you called a dresser a Chesterfield or something would be like. Like. Now, do you, a Chesterfield? A Chesterfield. Pop a Google on it. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. It's also, I feel like I'm aging myself. I got that particular one from, it was a joke from Family Guy. Years ago. I love Family Guy. And it was Brian, the dog, the dog was dating a woman who everyone felt like was too old for him. And he was like, she's not too old to date me. I could never get past the Brian thing. Him like. It's weird. Him. That was kind of weird. I could not get, like, imagining him like fucking a human. Yeah, like the bestiality of it. It bugs me out till no end. But the, the way that they communicated in the show. Yeah, no, it still bugs me out. That he, that this woman was too old from him, for him is like, they're in the bedroom together. And he's like, hey, she's like, get me this thing out of the Chesterfield. And he's like, what? And she's like, well, you know, the, and she says a different thing. And it's just a super old words for a dresser. Uh-huh. And then he's like, maybe she is too old for me. Cause like, she's saying stuff that's not even a thing anymore. Right. Henley is my version of that. Right. Now I just say waffle mitt. Do you think I look like Stewie from Family Guy? No, I do not. Okay. Cause I've seen some people say that. People say that? Sometimes, yeah. I don't see it. Your head does not look like a football in any way. I get Stewie. I get Rumpelstiltskin. I don't see it. I don't see it. I think you look like you. You look like you, man. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, thank you. Hell yeah. Your head is not a football first off. It's quite large. No. What's, if you're going fitted hat, what size are you wearing? Do you know? So no, but I, I have like the, if you're an eight ball, like you're getting there, you're getting there. Like an eight, like an eight is like the highest hat they make of like, like if you were like a, like a hat, like a baseball hat. Like, I know this is a baseball hat, but like a flat. No, that's a, that's a trucker hat. It's a trucker hat, but like a flat bill baseball hat that's fitted. There's sizes. And when you buy them, it's like seven. and a quarter seven and a half seven and five eights eight is the biggest one that they make okay i don't think you're not an eight dude you're not an eight ball what are you wearing right now uh this my my fitted size seven and five eights i kind of want to go shopping with you come on let's go to lids dude we'll see we'll see what hat size you are we gotta get you up dude what is lit i forgot you are kidding i like this this is nice i feel like i'm telling you all these old man things that i'd like you need to know in my opinion and which is lids may not even exist anymore right like was it a part of your youth to go to the mall um well once i went once yeah and i went to hot topic okay hot topic very mall that's a very mall store spencer's gifts very mall store okay imagine hot topic but it was more like how would you it's like everything had like the nightmare before christmas on it but it was like a dildo okay well you know it was like the weirdest place they have auntie annie's at all the malls yes that's very orange julius very mall julius orange julius it's like a smoothie like a smoothie place that's like connected to annie ann's like annie ann slash orange julius 100 oh it's like baskin robbins slash whatever's with baskin robbins always always john silver's taco bell whatever you know what i mean like taco bell kfc you know it's kind of like a combo deal okay what's your favorite chain in the south bojangles is going to be up there you probably don't know what that is if you don't know what lids is you probably don't know do you know what a bojangles is yeah it's miss alabama over there she loves bojangles yeah bojangles fantastic they got breakfast all day it's like biscuits biscuits and gravy that kind of that kind of deal um cook out so i've heard cook out so i've heard unbelievable yeah i've heard it's amazing you get a corn dog as a side like how are you eating that you know a quesadilla is a side at cookout like you can get a tray with a hamburger and you get two sides so you can get a quesadilla and a corn oh it's like a good deal yeah yeah it's like that would be like seven bucks for all that wow and you can add a milkshake for like a dollar 50 it's insane what's your favorite type of milkshake gosh man um i don't know like i feel like i'm going like blizzard town in my head like dq blizzard kind of vibe um milkshake i would go probably like like a chocolate malt almost i feel like would even be like i know that's not technically not a milkshake but i like the same cloth for sure i like a black and white that's nice i like that i if i'm going if i'm going blizzard i'm going like chocolate like mint chocolate like i see that for you i'm a mint chocolate guy i love a coffee ice cream me too you know that's my favorite thing yeah coffee ice cream is like oh my god number one for me so what i do my favorite thing in the entire world my favorite thing in the entire world is coffee ice cream smoothie in the entire world a coffee smoothie because it's like ice cream i can't say i've ever had one of this okay so i need to take you yep next time you're in new york shopping like i'll take you to all the old mall stores that may not exist anymore right there's lids spencer's gifts game stop like oh i used to were you a pokemon kid a little bit i was a big pokemon kid yeah as you can probably assume what's wrong with being pokemon no i know nothing's being wrong i mean it's a dude pokemon you got the old collection dude you might be a millionaire like so my friend's brother is a collector but i was like i liked the game boy advance oh man i loved game boy gosh what games did you play on that game boy man i put paper boy was like that was top i got that for christmas one year and like my parents had to like rip it out of my hands dude i was obsessed with paper boy i used to sleep with my game boy underneath my pillow so i could stay up all night and like your parents would be like all your stuff's put away yeah yes yeah and then you're like you know it's something that we have in common actually what's watches i noticed i know you did that's nice what are what's your top my top my my top is my nautilus what's the dream watch an aquanaut that we don't have aquanaut it's a guy i don't have an aquanaut i want an aquanaut because i want to wear it during the summer when it's hot because the rubber band or strap yeah that's that's the dream the cut i didn't realize the cut the strap thing i didn't know that so when you buy the aquanaut this it comes with a full strap like rubber strap uh-huh there's no there's no buckle like oh they cut it it's not like a for you you have to go in and they size it and then they cut the strap so then that watch is like if someone else if you were to resell that watch it's only and it was for someone that has a bigger wrist than you they'd have to buy a new strap okay okay tell me what is your top favorite watch well i mean that's gonna be tough i know um i mean there's a lot i don't know i i love all to be honest like i don't have any particular one that i'm like i really love a longa which is like a german brand it's got more like kind of um like a almost independent german brand um that kind of it went away like ceased business for a while and then it came back in the in the late 90s that kind of like reinvigorated the brand i love those i just think they're like the craftsmanship of those is like wild you know like if you look at it through the loop or whatever in the back like it's like everything's like engraved it's like stuff you almost couldn't even see with the naked eye like you're looking at it and then you put the loop in and you're like i didn't see that stuff yeah i didn't know that was in there so you know what i'm realizing as you're saying these things to me i actually am not that big of a watch guy i think there's levels there's i think i just like the status it gives me just full transparency but you would here's the thing though is you will like ultimately delve into that right because like the further you get into it it's just like a it's like a deep hole that you can just never get out of totally yeah it's i i mean i definitely have the bug i have the bug yes but um you know i'm definitely not into the i've just gotten to weight so i can feel i like i like a heavy not a lighter you know depends on the uh depends on the metal of course you know a titanium watch that's an expensive watch but it's going to be super light right which is what some people it's like every something you like might not be something i like and that's i think that's great to be honest there's something for everybody of course in that in the watch world right and really all price points too to be honest like you could spend a bajillion dollars on a watch or you can spend a hundred dollars on a watch like they're the barrier to entry is not money i just feel like to me it feels like this um i don't know does it ever make you feel like a little more attractive like when i put it on i feel like sexy i feel like it i feel like it definitely gets you in the right direction i feel like it definitely gets you in the right direction gives you some confidence yeah certainly yeah and i think like when i'm on a date i always go like this and then if they don't care then i'm just like fuck it i mean look at me i'm not pulling my sleeve down now of course i could easily be like on a red carpet i always go you're just kind of jingling you're like you're like make sure my they'll tailor yeah i've tailored suits so it shows my watch i've yeah i do the thing where it's like it kind of like my left arm will be the sleeve is a little bit looser than the right sleeve so that it can pop out of the sleeve easier as lame as that sounds that's the thing no sure it's honest full transparency yeah full transparency transparency okay question so when it rains it pours i mean you spoke to god that day you wrote that song i love that song you so okay how i just i need to know because out of all of the songs i listened to this week during my luke combs crash out yep that was the one i used i made her send me video of her listening to it in college because it was her college song jam yeah absolute jam so i just need to know from start to finish how you started writing it what because it's a very like uh uh uh you know like it's very like clever and quick it's got some pace to it what's your favorite well what's your favorite part okay my favorite my favorite line in the song is ex-future mother-in-law for sure it's great it's great because you're so memorable like and i when i came up with that line i was like i was like real proud of myself i was like people i was like yeah that was like that was because you're like listing all these like good things that have happened and you're like and by the way the best part is i don't have to see her bitch-ass mom exactly yeah exactly and like here's i'll give my buddy so i wrote it with my best friends in the world ray fulcher and uh our buddy jordan walker and we're when i paint the picture of writing the song so like you gotta think i have no albums out i've released six songs over the course of my probably three years doing music at this point all in my own accord like just as a basically of college flunk out student and i moved to nashville i'm basically writing with you know any the guy at subway i would write with you know like i'd be like let's write a song like anyone that would write with me right so i basically would start going to writers nights and basically you spend a lot of time networking and meeting people that you feel like you have you know a lot of things in common with or that like the same kind of you know style of country music you like or whatever it may be and so i had met ray and jordan just kind of doing that and go there that day the it was my idea when it rains it pours but in my mind it was going to be this like george jones like super slow like tears in my beers like tears my wife left me and i'm sad like at the bar and it can't get any worse than this and so i remember jordan going i'm pitching the idea like let's do this song you know because you spend the first you know half hour of the write like well what are we going to write today like what's your ideas what's my idea and you're kind of floating stuff back and forth. I pitched that idea, was selling them on it, and they loved the title. And Jordan was like, what if we made it, like, what if we made it an up-tempo song? Because the title, when you see it, you would immediately think, well, this is going to be super sad. What does When It Rains, It Pours means? Can it be both good and bad things? I don't understand. I think it is a saying that is only meant to be, like, when it's bad, it's really fucking bad. That's what, yes. Okay, that's how I took it. When it rains, it pours. Like, it can't get any worse. Right. And so he flipped the script on it. His idea was to flip the script on the phrase of, like, well, let's make it all good stuff. And that was a brilliant idea. I mean, all credit to Jordan. Like, flip and, like, the song would not be anything like what it is without his idea. I remember his roommate. So none of us had publishing deals at the time. Nothing going on. No record deals. Like, we are basically all incredibly unsuccessful at this time. And Jordan had a roommate, a super nice guy named Andy Albert. And I remember he was in a different room. We were right in Jordan's house. And he's in there. He's working on it. He's, like, mixing a demo that he had written with somebody else. And we're just about to start the song. And he kind of comes through to get something out of the fridge or whatever. And Jordan's like, hey, man, you ought to, like, pop in, pop in, write this song with us, dude. And he was like, oh, dude. He's like, I'm good, man. I'm working on this other thing. And didn't write the song with us. And it wound up being, it's, like, an almost double diamond song. Yeah. And so Andy has since had, like, a bunch of other hits with other artists and stuff. So he's great. Like, he's having a great career. But Jordan, for a while, was like, man, really should have popped in that day, huh? Like, we even asked you if you wanted to come. So he would always give him a chance. Did the song kind of just flow, though? Because you hear it's a flow. Like, flow is the whole song in general. It was, like, a really fun write, for sure. Because once Jordan said that, I'm like, what? Like, well, let's just dig into, like, it being, you know, just goofy. Like, at that time, again, there's no, like, there's no pressure at all. Right. Like, there's no, like, well, we sure could use another hit. Or it's like, we really need a song. It was like, I'm just basically getting reps in. It's almost like you're at practice. Like, I'm writing songs every single day. So, like, and so is Ray and so is Jordan. Not with each other, but every day we're writing with somebody different. So, like, I'm trying to do any and everything, all styles. Like, and so when I get, you know, rarely do you get, like, let's write this, like, up-tempo, like, tongue-in-cheek song. Yeah. Like, that, there's not many people trying to write that stuff in town. Did you start by writing the verses first or the chorus? How did you, like, approach? Yeah. Every song is different. You know, the process of coming up with something is always different. And I think sometimes it's a really cool guitar lick. Like, I would imagine, I don't know this for a fact, but I would imagine when Tracy Chapman wrote, Fast Car, she had the lick first. Okay. And the lick is, like, do-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. I would imagine that was the first thing she found and was like, I have a lick that I really like that's really cool. I should make that, I should just mimic this guitar lick that's super, in my mind, recognizable. Because, again, you don't know until the song comes out. And so she really loved the lick. Again, this is all speculative. And then she writes the verses. She writes the verses melodically to match that guitar lick. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes I have guys I write with that aren't super musical. Like, they're not, like, melody, big-time melody guitar guys. And sometimes they'll come in with a whole, like, here's a bunch, like, almost a poem of, like, here's this, here's these five or six lines. And I really like how they all fit together. Now let's come up with a melodic thing that we feel like would match. And it just can, it can be anything. I mean, anything. Like, sometimes some guys come in, like, we call them track guys, would be this. And so, like, they come in, like, almost, I don't want to say DJ, that's not the right word. But, like, they're almost like a producer. Like, they would come in with an entire song that's written, basically, that has no words to it at all. Right. And you just press play. So imagine listening to You Proof by Morgan Wallen. No words. You come in and go, and it's just that beat. It's just the beat. And it's just the music for that song. And they're going, this is a smash. Now what do we say to go with that thing? Because we feel like that's really catchy. Or there's a thousand different ways to skin a cat. And, like, in the music business, that's another southernism for you. Right. You clocked. But there's a million different ways to do it. You like cats? I have two cats. I would not peg you for a cat guy. Something about us cat guys, you know what I mean? Ever since I was a kid, I have, like, probably since I was seven, I've really struggled with OCD. I'm a very, I have very, very, very obsessive thoughts, so that, and I'm very superstitious, so they kind of, like, become one. I have, like, wishful, I think it's called magical thinking OCD. But. Just leave it, just leave it, just leave it. What the fuck? I've had OCD since I was seven, and my, like, OCD is very obsessive about, like, am I a bad person? Did I do this bad thing? Like, am I, like, kind of, like, stained OCD is, like, how I would phrase it in my mind. Like, my life is stained. A lot of people will treat it as, like, regular anxiety, but it's, like, really, really different. Like, it's just a different type of anxiety. I can't describe it because it's so obsessive. But people don't really talk about it a lot. Like, they really do not. Except in girls, they also showed it. But it's, like. Like, really, it's a horrible disease. There is a website for this called NoCD, and it is the world's leader in OCD treatment. It is covered by insurance. Life comes with, like, accepting the fact that sometimes you have to manage something instead of just trying to shut it out entirely. And that's why OCD treatment, at least to me, is so important. Because I know it's going to be a part of me for a really long time. But, like, if I can manage it and make things better, like, I will get, like, hours of my life back. Sometimes something very helpful with OCD. It is ERP, which is exposure and response therapy, which I find personally helpful to me. Like, I did it back, I think, in, like, 2020. And it was, like, I used to have this OCD thing where I had to add a song to a playlist four times. And I really love music, so that was really hard for me. And the exposure therapy I took would, like, make me sit there in that uncomfortableness. But you really sometimes just do need someone to, like, hold your hand and, like, be like, I'm specialized in this. Like, I will help you. And the best thing about NoCD is that all their licensed therapists specialize in ERP, which is exposure and response therapy. You meet with them in live, face-to-face, virtual sessions. And, at least for me, like, all the therapy I do nowadays is virtual. If you are struggling, NoCD is a great resource for OCD treatment. You can go to nocd.com slash jake to book a free 15-minute session to get started. That's nocd.com slash jake. Well, I mean, you got to be who you're going to be, dude. I know, but to what extent? To the extent where you're ultimately happy for the rest of your life. Chill. Like, you can't want to end up with somebody who's like, man, I wish you would be different. Right. Have you ever been in a relationship like that before? No. Honestly, I haven't. I've always been pretty selective on that stuff. And I've always just kind of been like, one, I don't want to change anybody else. Right. And I don't want anybody to change me either. And that's like. That's just up front. And I feel like you kind of got to get ahead of that. Okay. I mean, people don't change. Do you believe people change? I believe people can change. I think it's probably more uncommon than a lot of people would like you to believe. Right. I think it takes a tremendous amount of work, whether that's physically or therapy-wise. You have to do some serious coal mining to get to the next layer below that. And to rebuild it back up in a different fashion, it takes a lot of work. I think it is doable. I just don't know that people on the internet are doing it as much as they say they are. Right. And then people also don't accept change. Or they're not being as transparent about it. Of course. So the relationship thing for me is, I mean, ultimately it will happen at the right time. And, you know, I mean, it will. When it presents itself, you'll know. You know, the year of yes. Right. What was the worst year of your life? Okay. 27? No. So I'm 35. 27 was rocking. Okay. Well, I'm sorry because I was just speaking to someone that said it was the worst year of their life because of Saturn return. But I don't know if you know that. So I would think worst year of my life would probably be like 21 for me. Okay. So turn 21, I had really bad, I have like really bad OCD from time to time. Me as well. And like to the point where it can like affect like outcomes of things in my life, you know. Um, basically like crippling to some extent, like beyond, like I need to straighten the rug. Like it's not, there is, are some people that do have that and it can become like a crippling thing. Most of it is mental stuff. But 21 was the year I struggled the most with it. And it's another year where you feel like it's supposed to be the best year of your life. Like it's supposed to be this big, like I'm finally a real adult. I can't rent a car, but basically. Yeah. everything else, you know what I mean? And so that was tough for me. me because i i was in school at appalachian state um i have a ton of friends i have great parents that live an hour and a half away it's actually my birthday happy oh well uh it was yeah it was actually my birthday my parents came up i remember it like it was yesterday because anytime i have these moments it's like a nuclear bomb going off in my head like you can't forget it you're like ocd moments yeah okay they basically can start like instantaneously like what like what how does that manifest because i have ocd as well so i know it can manifest in like a bunch of different ways like when you have an ocd moment or a flare-up what happens like in your head if you don't mind me asking yeah no i don't and it's basically like mine is based on uh you know a lot of it it all obviously all deals with intrusive thoughts of course so my particular you know sub-variant whatever you want to call it um is is medically classified as purely obsessional compulsive disorder which is a bit of a misnomer because there are a lot of compulsions but none of the compulsions are visual so it's all take all the compulsions take place in my mind okay thought-based compulsions which are which is an attempt to um negate or um basically you know think away the intrusive thoughts that are giving me anxiety thus creating more of the intrusive thoughts because you're giving them basically attention right so like a thought-based compulsion would be like making your brain think about something what it would be like make trying to convince myself so let's say for instance like let's say i'm walking down the street okay and there's a bunch of cars coming and random thought flies by my mind it's like what if i jumped in front of those cars and jumped out in front of right people have those thoughts every day everyone in this room has probably had some thought like that today right yeah so for me the a thought like that is like like that and it doesn't always do this but in given the right moment the right state of mind the right like all the stars that line up in the shittiest way you have one of these thoughts and it basically it basically sends you your mind into like fight or flight mode like you basically like initiates like an insane like panic attack moment and you try you the obsession becomes trying to understand or find an answer for why you had the thought totally right totally and then the other compulsions are trying to not think the thought again and so giving that much focus to the thought makes your brain send it again because it's basically saying there's a man with a gun in front of me i should be afraid of it right and then that so it sends the thought again right and you're going god you're still really afraid of that how do i not think of that and accepting that there's a man in front of me with a gun that might shoot you is the only way to not be worried about the man in front of you with a gun that might shoot you and that's the hard thing to understand when you're in the grips of that thing you know i have a huge passion for mental health awareness because it was such a huge part of my life and it affected my life so heavily you know there's a lot of passion um that i have for talking about it and saying hey you know if you're a young person because this started for me when i was probably around 13 but i didn't really even know what it was till i was probably 21 or 22 and you were saying that and you're just going what is this what is happening why does this happen every once every six months or once every year like what is this like i hate this like it's getting worse how do i get rid of it you know like why is it happening to me you know and then basically you once i figured out what it was i was able to do a lot of work some with counselors some without on my own accord to now be able to like live a really fulfilling like awesome life that's basically i wouldn't say a hundred percent free of that but 98 to 99 free of it if it ever does pop up i basically got the sword in the sheath that i need to pull out if i ever need to do that and so one of my biggest passions is letting young people know that that doesn't define you as a person like that is not ultimately your destiny is to be this person who has a who has mental health struggles or mental illness or whatever it may be like that's not the thing that's going to be the definition of your life it won't be the way that you're remembered you know what i mean like it's so important for me to like let young people know because i went through so much like stress and grief and all these things like on my own i'm an only child too so it's like i don't have there's no brother or sister to like talk to about it and not that i wouldn't like my parents were aware that i was struggling and were they supportive yeah very much so but then also they're you know as a parent now i can imagine they're probably really afraid and scared yeah because at that time like we don't know what it is they're like why is he what is he even talking about well ocd wasn't spoken about ever really like so what i had i had and then my dad because mine was very um uh like uh ritual based and uh very um what's the word superstitions based so like if i don't do this this will happen exactly which is like based in what i'm thinking about sure absolutely um and so my dad would be like well just stop like just stop and it's like i literally can't you know my dad would say that from time to time too and it was all with the best of intentions of course my dad was like they were just scared i don't know what to do yeah so he'd be like well well damn someone you stop thinking about it right and i would go well fucking yeah dude that would be nice yeah that was the goal of the whole thing like that it's interesting that the whole ultimately what you want to happen is like you want to get rid of the thoughts you don't want to have the thoughts anymore but trying to get rid of them makes them come back so letting them exist is ultimately the thing that removes all the power that they have over you and saying you know what i will have these thoughts all the time and that's just like who cares like you are not like it's coming kind of coming to terms with the fact that like you are not your thoughts like your thoughts are not physical beings exactly are you do you mind if i ask if you're on medication for it at all i'm not oh wow and haven't been for i went on medication for it when i was probably 18 for six months what do you remember what it was uh oh god probably like i want to say like some probably like a generic zoloft yeah i was i was just on prozac i just switched to luvox because they didn't know again they like they're like well you just have anxiety right it's very very different than anxiety very different it causes anxiety but it is not the anxiety is not the root of the issue like basically cognitive behavioral therapy is the only way what is that because i think i need to do that yeah it's basically like i i don't want to describe it at risk of not being able to describe it properly like no well it's whatever your experience was with it i haven't done any personally any cbt with my stuff um but i know that it involves like a therapist helping you through the tools kind of like i was explaining earlier it's like okay well when the thought occurs you flip the script on the thought right like it's like okay well it's like oh my god what if i all of a sudden i don't love jesus anymore and then you that sends you into the spiral and that's your obsession right and then it's like okay maybe i don't and that would be okay if i didn't okay it's not needing the answer is like the thing that sets you free from the thing it's that you may never get an answer because it all it all kind of revolves around the it's questions that can't be answered yeah is the thing and even like even though the bus jumping in front of the bus example you we in theory could answer that they don't care about they're not afraid of getting hit by the bus right they're afraid of why they're having the thought about jumping in front of the bus and what does that mean about me as a person it's kind of like when you're watching like a detective murder show and you're like you're like right i could do that and then you're like wait am i a murderer violent thoughts are one of the top ones that people that have what i have are it's horrible because it's basically all based in the antithesis of your identity of yourself so you basically go okay well i feel like i'm a really good guy and then you have a thought about picking a knife up and throwing it through somebody's head right and then you're like why would i have why would i why did i think that that must mean that i'm some sort of psychotic murderer yeah something a lot of people have relationship based that is another very common one like it would be like okay well what if i don't love my kids or what if i don't love my significant other and then they become obsessed with that must mean that i don't love them or something even though they do and that's the only reason they're worried about it is because they do if you did it you wouldn't be worried about it oh wow if you said i'm worried i don't love my wife why are you worried about that because you love your wife that's why you're worried about it right because not being in love with your wife would then thus give you anxiety or give you this panic inducing moment and again i'm no therapist but i've done my 10 000 hours figuring it out many times over right you know i again and not that i'm anyone should seek any you know therapy i mean that was pretty therapeutic for but it's like there are just ways to explain it that sometimes the medical terminology, terminology is can be very intimidating for people and trying to understand like what does this mean what are all these big fancy words mean and what is cognitive behavioral therapy i don't that's scary it sounds scary yeah it's like no yeah just call it like getting over it right you know what i mean like there's something that's like relatable to people you know um like the country music version of therapy just like you know but i don't know i i i feel sad sometimes knowing that there's other kids that went through what i went through yeah but now they have you to listen to and talk about and i hope they see it man and i hope that more you know i wish more artists would come out with their whatever their mental health stories are and a lot of them do you know but i wish it was more commonplace because i think seeing someone who has reached a level and you know in the viewer's mind of really high success or someone that they look up to or someone that they admire overcome the very thing that they're struggling with is in and of itself like struggling with and i think that's a really important thing to do and i think that's a powerful i cannot imagine like my favorite quarterback from a kid being like watching a podcast and hear him describe this like i get the most messages after i talk about stuff like this on things because people go i didn't know what i had i'm 20 years old right now and i've never been able to like you know there's no like it's hard to describe and then when you hear someone else say it's also scary to describe because sometimes those thoughts are like this person's judging me like the person i'm telling is gonna be like this guy just told me he wants to murder people right right and it's like no no no that's not what i'm scared of that i'm having those thoughts a hundred percent yeah and it's a very scary disease it is man it is and it's crippling man you know it really is but if you have it you can get over it if you have any other mental health stuff you can get over it and have a great life just know that period yep do you have any songs that you have written that are about that i i have one that i wrote that's it is yet to be released it's not on the new album either um i wrote it in europe a few years ago with some good good friends of mine it's called breathing underwater is the name of it and uh it's yeah it's kind of about that in a roundabout way you know i mean not really roundabout i mean it's straight at it but there's no like i'm not like hey i have mental illness you know like there's more of a songwriter version of that you know i mean um but yeah man i you know and i think um i don't know that that's the perfect version of that song i don't know that i've written the perfect version of that song yet i really do like that song a lot personally because obviously i can relate one thousand percent to it you know it's it's truly like my story not not directly but my feelings towards those things sometimes um but then again i think you have to do it in a way that is approachable to others and i don't just don't know that i've nailed that yet something i 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cheer yeah let's cheers okay but you have to eyes eyes okay yeah that's a nice texture on those the bite's good on there isn't that fucking fire yeah it's really good actually you're going above and beyond on the packaging i can only imagine the product is probably probably quite nice have you also noticed my shirt a little miller little camo shirt i kind of well you know we have the miller because there's i've heard that well i've seen the video of you teaching how to shotgun a beer and i was thinking we could do that here let's do it to do it right now i'm in let's do it okay i like it basically normally you just pop like you're just gonna pop a hole in the can right is that kind of the idea okay but if you're going pro level you're gonna want to pop the hole in line with the mouthpiece of the can so you get this part on up you want that facing up okay this where the part you would drink out of you want it facing up like that so then when you crack it the beer can't come out of here it can only come out of this oh okay because if you crack it like this it would all just pour out so crack it like so you're gonna want to i go like on and then i tilt and then i crack this okay okay okay so so when we pop it like so this and so this will so like the and then you'll go yeah but physics wise now the air bubble is right here i usually do like this okay and then all you do okay okay so you can do fingers it's probably not the best idea to do no i don't think that would be good this is gonna it's always gonna spill to some extent this is the best version of it no no no right no i if it spills that's okay roof roof to the ceiling okay once you're at the ceiling you crack it okay ready yeah one two three okay oh how was it do you cut dude you got a little cut going are you good just a gas bubble we got a gas cheers oh my lord yeah that gas bubble will get you dude oh my god i don't know if any way in your mouth shut up wow it wasn't a zero out of ten i've seen worse can your is your wife good at it not no not really no just do it just do it don't fight it it's gonna happen whether you want it to or not it's just gonna happen yeah now you saw the burps you're feeling the burp coming it's coming so imagine you're doing that you rip one on stage and you're immediately into another song oh wait so for the next song there's a moment every night after i shock on the beer we're in the next song while i'm singing i burp and it's like no one knows that i burp okay question in like a breathing and i'm like is it true is it true you bring somebody up to shock on a beer with you at your shows usually yeah okay so we're coming to your vegas show we gotta work on it we gotta get some practice in okay give some reps but we're really oh it's come i think the burp is you'll know it's gonna be like it's gonna be a full-blown it's not gonna be like it's gonna just like a deep from the bowels oh my god i'm scared you just think you just forced like see like carbonated water into your stomach like a rapid rate okay um hold on here's the thing if you stop thinking about it you're gonna be like oh my god it's almost like the ocd you stop thinking about it and it will happen and it will be done thinking about it and all of a sudden we'll be talking okay anyways yeah yeah are you excited to teach your kids how to shock on a beer when they grow older yeah i don't even know that i'll have to teach them you get them in the right college they'll teach themselves where do you where do you want them to go or i guess you don't care i would love for them to go to appalachian state that's where i went that's again very selfish reason for wanting them to go there is just so like i could go to football games and like like toad around at parents weekend and like watch the game and stuff i mean but how cool would that be that would be very sick you know um but anywhere man also be cool like it'd be really neat to like because i'm i'm like die hard like loyalty guy like i'm i'm carolina panthers die hard like till the like if we lose every game for the rest of my life i'm still gonna be wearing this stuff yeah but that also lends into like well i'm not i don't really ever get new teams into like the lexicon of things i'm obsessed with so if my child went somewhere else you'd be excited i would then have an excuse to be like insanely devoted to like another thing that i have no association with and that would be a valid reason for doing that totally a little bit extra you've yet to get one dude i'm i'm feeling for you over there i think i'm scared i think i'm scared you don't have to be scared man it's it's gonna be good don't force it though it might hurt a little bit you know what i mean okay okay well so now now is the time in the show well i never asked you what you were therapist about what are you therapist about today i'm pissed i'm pissed you know what i'm pissed about what uh the difficulty of weight loss is the thing that i'm pissed about man have you have you been on a journey oh bro you wouldn't tell but it's been man i shoot dude i've been gluten-free for two years i've been uh there you go there you go gluten-free besides beer okay and whiskey and stuff okay well i wouldn't pass any celiac like can i tell you what helped me with my weight loss because i actually recently went on a journey sure i cut out dairy for a bit okay and it really helped me besides like greek yogurt and stuff sure sure but just you know like very cheesy things very creamy things cutting that out is my the number one thing i've ever done i've never done that yeah oh man it's it's been yeah for me it's like i do intermittent fasting every day so i don't eat till 12 every day shut it down by eight unless i'm drinking you know what i mean that was the one dude that was the full one i told you it was just gonna creep out like you're gonna forget about it and then you're gonna yeah um so i'd say the like the fasting has been really good for me it's balancing family life work life yeah time like i don't mind working out man i i don't love it like i'm jealous of people that love it or i think they're fucking lying to be quite honest um but like i don't mind doing that um and it's just really slow dude it's so slow because like i don't there's no shortcuts like i don't want to like do the injection thing and nothing against anybody that does it's just not my cup of tea and it's not my personal preference so it's just been like it's just painstaking man it's like it again comes back to the thing we talked about can people really change right i think real change requires like real real change like it's a fundamental change like in every way that i've operated in my you know relationship with food man for my whole life i mean for 33 years man also though like people with ocd can get really obsessive about food as well and then that can make this and it also it also like when you're basically spend 90 of your day in a state of like pure anxiety sometimes the only escape you have is like food pizza dude yeah you know what i mean like or whatever and then it becomes like then it becomes like this friend that understands you or whatever um i think that you know a food addiction is a highly understudied thing and i think that you know my manager he was really big when we first met he was i mean 400 and something pounds he was like i don't know i don't know huge i mean he's six four he was a mountain of a man and he got uh he got gastric bypass surgery um because he was getting to the point where he was like man like i'm this is life threatening and so he got that and he has the best quote man because he he's a big advocate of like food addiction and like how serious it is and people don't understand it and you know he was like people scoffed at me my whole life of like well i'm addicted to food i have this big issue with food and i'm like i'm addicted to food and i'm addicted to food and i'm addicted to food and i was like dude just don't eat just eat less or what you know what i mean and he said food is the only thing that you can be addicted to that you have to have every day so when you quit cigarettes you don't need cigarettes to be alive right don't need alcohol to be alive right but you you can go full turkey on those things it would be like if you had to do heroin after you were abusing heroin you still had to do it every day wow yeah and so for him he's like it is like basically you have to like barely like you have to figure out how to like suppress your addiction but also eat and still be alive and eat every day and he's like that's the thing that people don't understand it's the only addiction you can't quit also mixing the fact that you're on the road all the time certainly it is so hard to eat on a routine and schedule yeah it's impossible schedule's hard because after a show i'm sure sometimes you're like jacked up on energy and dude after post show food is after show food is like the most evil invention dude entire we we used to always eat at like 11 p.m when i would do shows and like the i got home my mom was like you're hefty so i remember going like on my first big tour i was on where i was like opening bus like the big deal like i'm like dude i'm a big rock star like this is cool you know i'm like first i'm opening for brantley gilbert such a fun tour so much fun i'm first to three so our set is 25 minutes 20 minutes playing these big arenas like hurricanes are kind of starting to crush like like the set is on fire you know and we're so we're playing like i mean the whole set we probably played four or five number ones in 25 minutes they just weren't number ones yet right so we'd go into like end with hurricane first songs when it rains then we're playing one number away then we're playing she got the best of me it's like and it's all these songs that ended up being huge hits and the beautiful crazy 25 wasn't written yet at that time banger banger though banger that no change at the end goes stupid are you ever nervous you won't hit it all the time yeah yeah i'm all the time i'm nervous about being terrible sorry sorry i interrupted you no no you're good you're good but i remember like we finished the first night of the tour finished the show again we only played 25 minutes and then we were like 25 minutes so you don't really even have to like do any like it's not hard right you know what i mean to like do 25 minutes like i always was like we're not like i don't work construction dude like it's not hard it can be mentally exhausting at times but physically and like comparatively to what other people do like it's a total cakewalk like right anyone that pitches like oh you don't know what it's like and blah i get that mentally it can be taxing but keep it in perspective let's be real about what we're going to do here right we're not going to do it we're going to do it we're not working nine to five exactly i'm not working in the summer sun on the side of the interstate somewhere you know um and i'm sitting on the bus after the show like i think brantley's probably playing or just finished playing and i get this like you know bus is like parked on the street somebody's like knock on the bus and there's this guy there and he's sitting i'm like hello hey and he has an entire catering tray of chick-fil-a chicken tenders and i'm like what is and he's like after show food like after show food what is that he's like well we get it every night like we buy it every night like the tour buys it for you and then you just it just shows up every night and i was like this is gonna be bad yeah do you like chick-fil-a gonna be good for me i like it all brother that's the problem yeah you know what i mean it's i like it all dude you know and uh you know from salad to fried chicken dude it's like there's nothing in there i won't get chicken and salad also fantastic i gotta take you to jones on third they have a good fried chicken salad it sounds fantastic best fried chicken salad i'm gluten-free though so fried chicken i'm probably out on okay now right you know has gluten-free helped you i've been debating it uh i feel like it has and i started doing it for my ocd stuff my dad my dad when i was a kid and i used to have temper tantrums would be like you you cannot have gluten it makes your mood so much worse uh i mean it has worked for me quite well wow so i would uh i'd give it a shot i mean it can't hurt i mean do it for two three months and see what you think you know i mean maybe it's not for everybody i don't think there's one answer i think some of the food stuff is a big answer and it for you it may not be gluten it may be seed oils or something you know i mean something for everybody i went and did a food panel is what i did it's basically they did a blood draw and they tested against hundreds of different ingredients and the results are like my my number one thing was basically like any and all grains and gluten we're all in the red you can't cut out grains you can i love rice so much no no rice was not rice not rice rice is like rice wasn't on there mine was like oats okay barley gluten totally wheat excuse me still the shotgun still coming back yeah um but it was uh it was on my other two wild cards so all grains apples wow and goat cheese goat cheese is heavy you know apple sheets an apple a day so my doctor when we because i was really really it all started with let's get like let's get this ocd thing like do everything we can do to keep it at bay and you know outside of the tools we already have and so we did the food panel my doctor suggested that uh and that went really really well and So then from there, me and my doctor started talking about this. I always wanted to lose weight. I always had trouble losing weight. I don't understand why I can't lose weight. And she goes, I've always been kind of bigger myself. And she said, the thing that helped me is I did this food panel thing. And she said, one of my biggest inflammation-causing foods was kale. She was like, I was eating kale in my smoothies every single day. Because I'm like, kale is healthy. It's so individualized person to person. So even though a food is, quote unquote, considered healthy, and it is, right? It's very subjective. It's sure it has lots of vitamins in it. We can all agree that healthy food is healthy. But healthy food is not healthy for every single person. And just because something is healthy doesn't mean your body responds well to it. Like if strawberries caused you inflammation, you have crazy inflammation. And you're like, well, I don't understand. I'm eating strawberries every day. And then you find out, well, your body doesn't respond well to eating strawberries. So it's a food you should avoid in general. I should do a food panel. You should do a food panel. Luis, would you do it with me? Yes, I've been working on it all day. Okay, so let's do it. It's really great. I mean, it really did. And it's really helped the OCD a lot. Okay, that's good to know. Meds can only do so much. I'm on them, but they can only do so much. And the reason that it helps is these inflammation-causing foods or whatever. And again, I think that's subjective as well. Like what foods cause inflammation? I think we can agree there are certain ones that cause more than others. But individually speaking, your response to this may not be the same as your response to this. Totally. It's food that, quote, unquote, doesn't cause inflammation and may cause inflammation for you. Right. Right. So I feel like health care should be so personalized. And I feel like it's really generalized. I feel like that's kind of an issue that we have. And that's, you know, it's tough. What do you think causes the issue of health care being generalized as opposed to? As opposed to personalized. Oh, my gosh. I have no idea. Right. I mean, I got no idea. Right. I mean, that's like asking me some math question. Have you ever seen the video of Jojo Siwa outside of Craigs? Have you seen that video? No. Oh, my God. Jojo, you've never seen this fucking video? Okay. Anyway, whatever, you guys. Well, it's time we get into the tell me what's wrongs. Okay. My sister is getting married and I'm her maid of honor. One of her bridesmaids, who I hate, is getting mad at my sister for planning her wedding before hers. Oh, she's a total narcissist and is accusing my sister of trying to one up her. I want to punch her, but fear my involvement will only make it worse. What should I do? Friends out. Your friend. Oh, you think no more bridesmaid for the friend? No more. No, no more friend. I think so, too. No more friend. Yeah, that's narcissism. A friend doesn't do that. By the way, so not a friend, ultimately. Someone that you want to be friends with or it's a one-sided friendship, out. Right. That's crazy. Gone friend. That's narcissism. Oh, my God. This is about OCD. I have a really tough time explaining my OCD to people. It's even more educated people who know it's not just so you're like really clean. I feel so crazy sometimes and can tell I'm annoying the people around me, even though I'm really not trying to. I'm working on my OCD as I go through life. But what are good ways to give context to my behaviors without just saying OCD? I think that's interesting. I don't think it's your responsibility to have to justify what you're going through to anyone else. First and foremost, I don't think it's your responsibility to explain things or it's not your fault if someone doesn't fully understand. I think you have to stay on your journey of healing yourself and getting better and adapting, you know, to the. Cards that you were dealt. And to some extent, it is that. And ultimately, it's like you do have OCD and that is what it is. And it's not a stigma thing. It's not bad. Like, I don't think that it's your responsibility to explain it to other people. And nobody should be pressuring you to, like, justify it or describe it like that. You have enough going on. If you have OCD, like, you shouldn't have to fill people in on like, what is it like pop on you pop in? Endless internet in your phone and figure it out. If you can't figure, like, why ask me? You know, like, you are not an expert on OCD, nor do you have to be. Like, you should just focus on getting the help you need. If somebody else needs context, that's their problem. To be quite frank with you, I think. Do you ever use chat GBT? Bro, all the time. Okay, do you know that's really bad for OCD? In what way? Like, I don't know. I read an. I saw an article about it once, but at least from what I'm understanding is that you can find reason in anything, right? So, like, and so, like, the AI. It's interesting you say this. So, like, the AI, you'll be like, I am sneezing. I literally have a video about this. I'm sneezing and my arm hurts. And chat GBT will be like, actually, that's because sneezing and your arm hurting, it will just find anything. It knows everything. Sure. And I, you know, it's funny. I've thought this a time or two when I've used it. I'm like, man, this could be really scary for, like. Medical stuff. With my particular form of OCD, it could be a very deep rabbit hole to come out of. But I have used it as a tool in my OCD as well. Right. Because there are some, there are these methods of thought that I use from time to time when I'm struggling. Or when I'm. When I'm, like, it's like, well, okay. So, like, you have to identify the, like, the reason for the thought. Right. Like, it's hard to kind of try to explain. But, like, to have this unanswerable question, you have to be, of course, again, okay with the not knowing the answer. Right. Right. So, I was having some OCD based around, like, I was like, I wanted to, like, touch my elbow or, like, whatever. Right. And I was particularly struggling with, like, why am I worried about this? And why, like, so, in my mind, I'm trying. I'm trying to, I'm trying to do the thing I normally do of, like, like, getting, boiling it down to my reasons. And so, I got curious about this. This was earlier in 20, January 25. I was kind of having a little bit of a flare up. And I couldn't really come up with the, like, the conclusion that I needed, I felt like, to get to the place I needed to be to, like, quill the thoughts coming in. So, I popped it into GPT. And I'm like, hey, I'm trying to do this based around having pure OCD. I'm not looking for any, like, reassurance. Like, I'm not, like, this is not me, like, seeking relief from my anxiety. It's me going, help me, help me explain to, basically, to myself the thought process of getting from here to here. Right. Because I'm looking for, it's kind of hard to explain. It's deep OCD stuff. But it's, like. It's, like, I needed to know, like, well, okay, so I'm not worried about, I'm worried about the, like, the need to, like, touch my elbow or whatever. And I'm almost worried about, like, why do I want to do that? Right. And I'm like, one, like, help me get to an answer. And it's, like, this is this thing. And then I went, oh. Okay, so, yeah, it can be helpful as well. Got it. This is the thing, like. So, then I was able to immediately, like, put it in the place in the, like. Get well library that it needed to be to, like, complete the equation of, like, getting over. Okay, I see how that could work. It wasn't, like, me going, like, please tell me I'm a good guy. Like, that could be really bad. Right. For sure. And you should not do that. Right. For sure. I was on a double date at the bar with my best friend and our partners. One thing led to another, and my best friend got very drunk and aggressive. He was being crazy, and I was trying to calm him down, and he, hmm. And he socked me in the face and started this embarrassing bar fight. I've known him for 15 years. And nothing this intense has literally ever happened. My partner hates him now, obviously, and refuses to hang out with him. I don't really have a question besides, how do I navigate this situation? I would say that not all friendships are meant to last forever. You think, but do you think, like, one situation like that can cut it? I think it's, not always. I think sometimes. I think it's time to have a serious conversation with this person and go, what the fuck. What the fuck are you doing, bro? Like, you hit me in the face at a, in public. Have you ever been in a bar fight? Never at a bar. I've been in some fights, but never in a bar. Even though I was a bouncer. It was my job to kind of make sure the fights didn't happen, was kind of my. Would you pull people off of each other? Oh, certainly. Certainly. You know. Did you ever see a girl be like, stop? Oh, yeah. Shoot. That happens every night. That was like an every night occurrence, man. College bar, like, tensions are high in there. This back to the friend thing, like. You gotta have, this is a serious conversation. Right. There's like, there's apologies owed to people. There was maybe drugs were maybe involved. Certainly. Maybe. Also not an excuse, by the way. No, of course not. Not an excuse. But I'm just saying. But yes. Like, yeah, that's a, yeah, you gotta have a serious, you gotta have, it's a grown man shit right there, dude. Like, it's time to, somebody's gotta own up to something there. Yeah. My Uber driver low-key admitted to manslaughter while he was driving me to a party. I'm so unconfrontational that I just smiled and waved. I don't want to give. any details, but maybe I should report this. It was an automobile accident and it seems like he totally got away with it i'm not worried i'm in danger but like do i do anything with this information that is that is a highly nuanced situation there um it's kind of giving i know what you did last summer vibes yeah is it like i feel like i would need some a lot more detail on on what's going on there was he like well you studied homicide stuff yeah which i want to be like did he say like he hit a guy and got away with it because he was like exonerated from the thing right found innocent or like there's a lot of different ways to interpret that saying if he was like yeah hit this guy my car and drove off and nobody knows about it that's a different story right so there's some there could be like you could in theory say oh you i don't know if you can really get away with manslaughter because manslaughter in and of itself is kind of like oh my god sometimes accidental right okay right yes you've studied it yeah it's like yes getting away with it is an interesting thing like you can get away with murder in theory but like that seems like that's what you would say in the question like if the guy was like getting away with manslaughter is such a like specific thing what is manslaughter manslaughter is kind it's again it's like kind of nuanced like in its state it can be state to state okay like some states what's first to be murder and the other states would be manslaughter what's the like what is that i would say that like man's like there's involuntary manslaughter there's voluntary manslaughter which voluntary manslaughter would be like i did something inherently dangerous and i knew that it could result in someone dying totally and i did it anyways and somebody died right it wasn't like you set out and said i'm killing this guy right it wasn't that murder that's murder yes and then involuntary manslaughter would be i did this thing that like is normally a socially acceptable normal behavior and it resulted in someone dying and i am at fault for that person's death okay so like it's it's almost too vague of a question to answer i would you know yeah why don't you just go yeah go to the cops be like steve that drives a hyundai launcher just let me know manslaughter somebody dude like yeah just let them know i guess one star review immediately maybe report it pop it to uber of course maybe somebody working for them is bragging about potentially killing somebody you know that which i would think would be of concern to them do you have um like okay so you said you watch stranger things but do you like detective television shows and stuff and like i do like true detectives season one all time all timer i mean all the time i mean honestly um what is it season three season three was good season two was not season two i didn't like season three i liked season three was a lot better than season two and nothing will ever touch season one i mean season one okay what about sinners with bill pullman haven't seen it what i have to see it oh my god it is the oh my god you think i would love it love have you seen the center it's the center not center sorry it's the center the center it is outstanding okay i promise you if you like true detective season one and you're saying i like it i like what's it on what's it streaming uh it was on it what the center yeah it's on netflix but it was like an a whatever it was called it's like a mini series kind of thing there's three seasons oh there's three seasons yeah they're all good but season one's the best i like that um have you ever did you watch task nope what no task you would love task i'm i gotta get up dude my like my dad time is short okay right right you know what i mean like i don't get many couch like you watch all her fault nope you would also like all her fault okay all her faults there you have to like send me a list i will say i watch you know i watch everything the beast in me is great if you watch that ever do homeland i did homeland i did homeland it's good it's good great yeah i did homeland yes but i gotta get i'm glad you i feel like you're giving me some stuff here oh you know what i mean would you ever watch something with subtitles i love some watching subtitles show german show called dark on netflix seen it it's great great no you haven't i've seen it it's great how amazing is that show very good like highly recommended it makes you think about life in the most insane way like i did it it was really good it's really really have you ever watched a show like i did it really good it's really really have you ever watched a show like i did it really good it's really really have you ever watched a show like i did it really good it's really really have you ever seen it louise you gotta give it a go it's amazing it's german right yeah it's german german show it was a german netflix deal and it was so well received they brought it to the states yeah i felt like i learned german from it don't care okay wild okay wild uh do you like would you rather watch original language with subtitles or the weird dubbed over english i would i i think people who watch dubbed over english are like borderline sociopathic it bugs me to no end because i'm like but you're because i'm like but you're that's not their mouths are like that's not their mouths are like but it's also like you're not watching yes i did but it's also like you're not watching yes i did you're not you're not watching the show that's not you're not you're not watching the show that's not the acting they're not acting that is the acting they're not acting that is the acting they're not acting that is people that's not real that is not real people that's not real that is not real people that's not real that is not real right yeah it's like i can't do it because they don't right yeah it's like i can't do it because they don't it's not like they're it's not like they're it's not like they're it's not like they're hiring right dicaprio to re-voice of course hiring right dicaprio to re-voice of course hiring right dicaprio to re-voice of course of course it's like your buddy from high school of course it's like your buddy from high school of course it's like your buddy from high school they like called him in there like hey you mind they like called him in there like hey you mind they like called him in there like hey you mind reading a couple sentences for this thing and he's reading a couple sentences for this thing and he's like like like yeah i think i got stabbed by that guy yeah i think i got stabbed by that guy yeah i think i got stabbed by that guy and then it's like and i'm like this guy and then it's like and i'm like this guy and then it's like and i'm like this guy doesn't even know how to voice act they doesn't even know how to voice act they doesn't even know how to voice act they found this guy on the street yeah it's found this guy on the street yeah it's found this guy on the street yeah it's horrendous it's pretty horrendous horrendous it's pretty horrendous horrendous it's pretty horrendous i can't do it my friends can do it but i can't do it my friends can do it but i can't do it my friends can do it but i i i i can't ooh my mother and father-in-law i can't ooh my mother and father-in-law i can't ooh my mother and father-in-law are too overbearing my husband is their are too overbearing my husband is their are too overbearing my husband is their only son so they're just so involved in only son so they're just so involved in only son so they're just so involved in our lives planning our trips for us our lives planning our trips for us our lives planning our trips for us hosting events like every other day oh hosting events like every other day oh hosting events like every other day oh my god and guilting us to come almost my god and guilting us to come almost my god and guilting us to come almost every time etc to the point where it every time etc to the point where it every time etc to the point where it feels like they're making big decisions feels like they're making big decisions feels like they're making big decisions for us and always giving us unsolicited for us and always giving us unsolicited for us and always giving us unsolicited advice but it's super hard to be annoyed advice but it's super hard to be annoyed because they're also so nice and helpful because they're also so nice and helpful because they're also so nice and helpful what do i do man you gotta talk to your what do i do man you gotta talk to your what do i do man you gotta talk to your man dude he's got like he gotta like man dude he's got like he gotta like man dude he's got like he gotta like i don't know man there comes a time how i don't know man there comes a time how i don't know man there comes a time how old are these folks we know we don't old are these folks we know we don't old are these folks we know we don't know it's anonymous know it's anonymous know it's anonymous assuming you're assuming you're assuming you're adult-ish right like i don't know if adult-ish right like i don't know if adult-ish right like i don't know if it's going to rain of course you know it's going to rain of course you know it's going to rain of course you know it's uh it's uh it's uh it's yeah that's a that's a toughie dude it's yeah that's a that's a toughie dude it's yeah that's a that's a toughie dude i find it's like tell the list tell the i find it's like tell the list tell the i find it's like tell the list tell the out there out there out there give us a little more details some of give us a little more details some of give us a little more details some of these are luke i always ask for more these are luke i always ask for more these are luke i always ask for more contacts like i need more context how contacts like i need more context how contacts like i need more context how old are you do you live in the same old are you do you live in the same old are you do you live in the same town no we don't know we can't help you town no we don't know we can't help you town no we don't know we can't help you i can't help if we want some real i can't help if we want some real i can't help if we want some real answers you know what i mean but i think answers you know what i mean but i think answers you know what i mean but i think you gotta like you gotta like tell you gotta like you gotta like tell you gotta like you gotta like tell like is it they married it's unclear like is it they married it's unclear like is it they married it's unclear unclear yeah we gotta tell hubby unclear yeah we gotta tell hubby unclear yeah we gotta tell hubby perspective hubby whatever like come on perspective hubby whatever like come on perspective hubby whatever like come on bro like tell your parents like you kind bro like tell your parents like you kind bro like tell your parents like you kind of like let me live my life a little bit of like let me live my life a little bit of like let me live my life a little bit for sure and also like for sure and also like for sure and also like you know sometimes i do think that have you know sometimes i do think that have you know sometimes i do think that have you oh my god you haven't seen the you oh my god you haven't seen the you oh my god you haven't seen the girlfriend on amazon have you no okay girlfriend on amazon have you no okay girlfriend on amazon have you no okay well sometimes well sometimes well sometimes sometimes sometimes parents are really parents are really weird with their kids there is that is weird with their kids there is that is weird with their kids there is that is true that is very true i work for my true that is very true i work for my true that is very true i work for my girlfriend's dad and we recently just girlfriend's dad and we recently just girlfriend's dad and we recently just got yeah already and we recently just got yeah already and we recently just got yeah already and we recently just got into a relationship ending fight at got into a relationship ending fight at got into a relationship ending fight at their dinner table because we ended up their dinner table because we ended up their dinner table because we ended up arguing about how we wanted different arguing about how we wanted different arguing about how we wanted different things in life things in life things in life brutal brutal brutal that's like a movie dude that's horrible brutal that's like a movie dude that's horrible i know okay so you're out of the i know okay so you're out of the i know okay so you're out of the relationship well relationship well relationship well oh they're unclear yet the bad part is oh they're unclear yet the bad part is oh they're unclear yet the bad part is her entire family was present for it her entire family was present for it her entire family was present for it it's been a week and i haven't heard it's been a week and i haven't heard it's been a week and i haven't heard anything from her or her dad i'm so anything from her or her dad i'm so anything from her or her dad i'm so scared to go into work and if i do what scared to go into work and if i do what scared to go into work and if i do what can i say or do to keep that job it's over that is the end dude like you are not over that is the end dude like you are not over that is the end dude like you are not i feel for that guy you're never coming i feel for that guy you're never coming i feel for that guy you're never coming back from that dude you broke up with back from that dude you broke up with back from that dude you broke up with your girlfriend at her parents dinner your girlfriend at her parents dinner your girlfriend at her parents dinner table in front of her whole family at table in front of her whole family at table in front of her whole family at what i'm assuming is the holidays yeah what i'm assuming is the holidays yeah what i'm assuming is the holidays yeah quit your job and just it's time to quit your job and just it's time to quit your job and just it's time to start over bro right there's no even start over bro right there's no even start over bro right there's no even if you come back from it it will be if you come back from it it will be if you come back from it it will be brought up every single time that you brought up every single time that you brought up every single time that you see them for and listen see them for and listen see them for and listen do what you want to do maybe this is do what you want to do maybe this is do what you want to do maybe this is your person maybe you made a mistake your person maybe you made a mistake your person maybe you made a mistake don't but you can't have that underlying don't but you can't have that underlying don't but you can't have that underlying anxiety of if i get in a fight with them anxiety of if i get in a fight with them anxiety of if i get in a fight with them i will also lose my job because that i will also lose my job because that i will also lose my job because that will take hold of the entire will take hold of the entire will take hold of the entire relationship but you asked me or relationship but you asked me or relationship but you asked me or you asked jake and jane asked me you asked jake and jane asked me you asked jake and jane asked me it's over bro yeah it's it's the end it's over bro yeah it's it's the end it's over bro yeah it's it's the end do you have a good breakup song of yours do you have a good breakup song of yours do you have a good breakup song of yours you'd like to prescribe you'd like to prescribe you'd like to prescribe i would prescribe um i would probably i would prescribe um i would probably i would prescribe um i would probably prescribe some merle haggard for that one prescribe some merle haggard for that one prescribe some merle haggard for that one that's a i don't know if i have anything that's a i don't know if i have anything that's a i don't know if i have anything okay you know it's time for you know it's okay you know it's time for you know it's okay you know it's time for you know it's time for time for time for growing up and moving on travis meadows growing up and moving on travis meadows growing up and moving on travis meadows learning how to live alone learning how to live alone learning how to live alone would go ahead and get that one going would go ahead and get that one going would go ahead and get that one going right or when it rains it pours we all right or when it rains it pours we all right or when it rains it pours we all okay we all choose sides when the ship okay we all choose sides when the ship okay we all choose sides when the ship goes down goes down goes down okay so just be on your side and let okay so just be on your side and let okay so just be on your side and let them be on their side them be on their side them be on their side never things are better left the bottom never things are better left the bottom never things are better left the bottom of the ocean of the ocean of the ocean somewhere you know what i mean what type somewhere you know what i mean what type somewhere you know what i mean what type of do you only listen to country music of do you only listen to country music of do you only listen to country music or do you listen to other stuff as well or do you listen to other stuff as well or do you listen to other stuff as well everything i'm a huge hip-hop guy i love everything i'm a huge hip-hop guy i love everything i'm a huge hip-hop guy i love hip-hop i really have always loved hip-hop i really have always loved hip-hop i really have always loved hip-hop um hip-hop um hip-hop um i i really crave like authenticity and i i really crave like authenticity and i i really crave like authenticity and whatever music that i'm listening to whatever music that i'm listening to whatever music that i'm listening to um it doesn't have to be something i can um it doesn't have to be something i can um it doesn't have to be something i can even relate to even relate to even relate to man like i just have to like i don't know man like i just have to like i don't know man like i just have to like i don't know you just i think there's something you just i think there's something you just i think there's something subconsciously in music like subconsciously in music like subconsciously in music like as fans we know when something is as fans we know when something is as fans we know when something is authentic or not even if we authentic or not even if we authentic or not even if we don't know we know that yeah The artists that you gravitate towards, that are around for a long time. Obviously, there's a lot of one-hit wonders or people that have one or two songs that do well and make a great career out of that. But the artists, the Bruce Springsteens of the world, people are gravitating towards that because there's an innate authenticity to it that they don't even realize that they realize. And so whatever music that I'm loving, I usually gravitate towards stuff like that. It's, of course, not exclusively that. You know, like I get down with Backstreet Boys, dude. You ever listen to Summer Walker? Mm-mm. I think you'd like her. Okay. She's great. R&B. I love R&B. Besides you that I've been listening to this week, do you listen to Summer? I'm sick for her right now. I'm sick. I'll listen to it today. Well, Luke, I'm like so sad. You're leaving. Oh, my God, man. I had a great time, dude. Well, yeah. I'm going to see you again at your concert. Yep. Come on. I'm going to. Uh-huh. Redo the shotgun, hopefully. Yeah, hopefully. Yep. Well, what did we learn today? I feel like we learned a lot, you know? I feel like we learned a lot about, you know, OCD. Mm-mm. We learned a lot about- Shotgunning. Shotgunning beers. We learned a lot about- I feel like we gave some pretty heavy life advice to some random people. There was a lot going on in here today. Yeah. But I enjoyed it, man. Thanks for having me, dude. Thank you. You know? Thank you so much for being here. Absolutely. I'm going to really try to end my crash out right here, right now with you. Yep. Let's do it. This is it. It's done. So, thank you for coming on the show. Yes, sir. Yep. Adios, pussies. On any journey using Uber, it helps to know you're getting into the right car. Pin verification adds an extra step to make sure your ride is your ride. Before the trip begins, your app gives you a unique pin. Just tell it to your driver, and they'll enter it in their app before the ride can start. Hey, what's your pin? Mm-hmm. Two, five, three, eight. 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