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Session 109: Rob Rausch

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Session 109: Rob Rausch

The episode begins with a raw, emotional personal narrative from the host, who recounts a painful romantic betrayal involving a man who ghosted her after a dinner date. This event triggered deep emotional distress, including 15 hours of crying, feelings of rejection, and a sense of personal failure. The host reflects on how past experiences of deception—like lying to friends about a relationship—have made them more cautious and emotionally vulnerable. Peyton’s silence and emotional withdrawal after being disrespected parallel this experience, underscoring the pain of broken trust. The host finds solace in small acts of connection, like flowers from friends and a symbolic crystal, which represent emotional healing. The narrative shifts to a lighter, more strategic discussion with Rob Roush, a reality show participant, who shares insights on deception, loyalty, and psychological tension in games like *Traders*. The hosts contrast *Love Island*—a show built on superficial attraction—with *Traders*, where emotional stakes are higher and relationships are more complex. A recurring theme is authenticity: the hosts emphasize that reality TV is not about genuine love but about strategy and manipulation, and that staying true to oneself despite criticism is vital. The episode ends with a mix of vulnerability, humor, and quiet resilience, highlighting the emotional complexity of modern relationships and the importance of self-trust in navigating them.

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Hi Pussies! Welcome back to Therapus! Tonight we have on Rob Roush, but first for a special intro, we have Peyton Perler. Boy, oh boy. How are you doing girl? I mean, am I ever well? For a moment you were. I feel like I'm constantly losing the fucking plot. This weekend was bad. Every time I'm on Therapus, something like ground breakingly awful is going on in my personal life. I was just you guys, like I don't even know how to put it. Dogged. I was disrespected. And Peyton and I have a lot of alone time this week together, so. Also, whenever Jake and I are left alone, it is just the roguest most outrageous thing ever. Jake and I, like when we are alone, and we've only had a handful of. We have Baby Weekend. Knights out alone. And the world shifts. It stops. It stops and shifts. It stops and shifts. I don't even know if that's the same thing, but it does. And we're coming up on one of those. A man came to the city. A man that. I wouldn't say he disrespected her in the past, but I would say things didn't end the way you would have liked them to. You were ghosted. Like kind of. And Peyton, when this happened, went mute for three days. I didn't speak. She sat in the corner of our house. Silent. Silent waiting for him to text me. He didn't. And he didn't. And then I texted him and he, like, barely replied. So then, how did this pickback. Oh. Hi, it was all my fault. Yeah, it was. But this. The OG crash-out was. Jay Shetty was on the podcast. And Peyton's that barefoot. Barefoot. I was literally grounding myself, bare feet on the hardwood floor. And I was like, I need a moment of your time, alone. And you need. To guide me. To do something. Yeah, the camera stopped rolling because I had to go Peyton and went to him and said, please help me. I was in desperate need. So basically, this man comes back to the city. No, but why does he. Like, let's. I DM him. Oh my gosh. God forbid a bitch is moving her thumbs. She said she said she said she said she sent him a meme. She found she looks at me yesterday. She goes, bitch, I search for it. I lied to everyone. And I said it was on, like my, you know, when you're scrolling Instagram and it's suggested. In Explore page? No, no, no. Like, you know when your feed's done. Like, you've done that. You've done the damn thing. Your feed is over. It's like all suggested. I was like, oh yeah, like, screen rant was suggested. No, it wasn't. Right. Screen rant. Screen rant. So she sent him a DM and then he was like, I'm going to come to New York this week. He was giving you everything. Okay, you need to validate me because I also the worst part about this. And I had therapy this morning. And last week I just did not want to hear a damn thing she said. Sometimes that's okay. And I get on this morning. She's like. And I was like, rough weekend. She goes, yeah, I can only imagine how upset you are. But she was like, well, you know, how we spoke last week. And you told me that you messaged him and lied to all of your friends about it. I was like, yeah, she's like, well, that means you knew something bad was going to happen. I was like, no, I didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You just, as we said, Peyton was moving in silence. And I honestly was just like, I moved to New York. I feel like it's going to go my way. And it didn't, which is fine. He basically used Peyton as a Yelp account. And this has happened to me before too, which is like, do I give like trip advisor? I don't know. Do I give Google because the amount of men who text me and they're like, there was this guy a few months, like last month. And he was like, hey, like, where should I go on vacation? I was like, um, I was just in Tulum and Cabo. He goes, great. I'm going to go to Cabo back to your crash out back to my crash out. And I really, really, really want to just moment of silence for this. Yeah, let's all take a moment of silence for this. Should I just like say what happened? Let's just like start from start to finish. So basically what occurred is this man is texting me like, I have dinner at this time and then come me and my friends got a table at the club. I recommended. He's like taking all your recommendations. Come meet us after dinner. I'm like, honestly, perfect. He tells me he's going to the bathroom. He never came back. I know. You're like, that's really bad. It's really bad. It's really bad. There is no way to like sugar code it. It's really bad. And he texted him. Did you just leave? No response. No response. No, he texted her the next day. What are you doing today? Probably forever. Why she guys could see Louise's face. I'm on the phone with Payne and I've never heard her like this. There's only been one instance where she's cried in my arms on the way back from the club. Hi, shocker about another man. Yeah. She is on the phone. Her voice is like breaking. And I'm like, I've never heard this before. Her voice is like legitimately breaking. Also, you know, it's bad when you wake up in your sober and it's just like, you're still crying. She cried for 15 hours straight. I was really fucking sad. Honestly, I just like, even if this was a random man I had never met, it's a really horrible feeling. It's the worst thing you feel so gross. Also, I just like felt like shit about myself honestly and I felt very rejected and I don't think I was ready to feel that way since I was also coming down from being fucking fouled left, right in center again. I'm like, it just made it 10 times worse. So then I go to lunch and I am quite literally unwell. Saturday, the sun is shining, but I am not like I am being just like the absolute worst vibe. And you know, I am usually like the one person that like doesn't get and brings the vibes up. You're always like, it's Saturday. We're drinking. Let's have fun. It's like, you know what, you guys like life rocks. Like let's just like be. It takes a lot for me to be a bad vibe. So me being in this state is really bad. I get home from lunch. I will say like I did have a thought go through my head like Jake has not checked up on me nearly enough. I totally thought I totally thought that and I was like, um, noted fucking asshole. But then I go back to my apartment and I open my elevator and there's flowers on the ground. My first thought is, are they from him? But then they were from Jake and Julia and then the note was really funny, but when I saw the flowers, I started crying because I was like, wow, I really needed this. And then the note was really funny. Also like not that anyone needed more perspective, like I'm sure everyone can really just understand and see clear as day how down bad I was. I walked into a crystal shop and said basically like, I need an exorcism. And they what did they give you? They gave you a crystal. They gave me a little amethyst mushroom and said, this will protect you. And I have been holding it ever since. You know what, you tried. I tried. You tried. And that's fine. That's fine. But I also feel like there's something going on. Well, obviously Mercury's in retrograde. But there's something really about this weekend every single girl I encountered from Friday to Sunday, whether it was at lunch out a friend I was meeting for a drink. Every single girl was like, I crammed myself to sleep last night. I was like, what, you two? What else should we talk about? God, we could just talk for hours on it, huh? Hours on and yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, tonight, I have new cauches. The bunnies, the foam bunnies with the little like, um, like jelly never had. And I will be having you'll sleep over, bring a sleep over bag. Yes. Oh, can I invite you to something while we're on air right now? Yes. Sweet and treats snack expo in Las Vegas in May. I will fly you out. We'll go together. We'll stay at the win. We'll go clubbing and we'll go eat cauches all day. I mean, yes, I love Vegas. There is no one who loves Vegas more than I do. Last time me, Payton, Julia, Louise, seven a.m. Smoking cigarettes outside [BLANK_AUDIO] the darkest hours of my life, but honestly, it was beautiful. It was so fun. It was so fun. That was like a really good morning. Also, some Vegas nights, they're really hit or miss. They're either like-- That was a hit. You hit. That was the best night ever. And you want to know why it was the best night of our lives. Alice was on amazing for him. Alice was being so fun. Everyone was just having the best night ever. And it was just like everything was going right. I will say when Alice didn't get on the bus, that's when I started to struggle. But that was the next day. How was the tour bus ride back? Was it a little treacherous? You're bad. So comfy. Jake has like a 14-inch mattress topper and a 19-inch duvet. Yeah, it's pretty sick. Oh my god, you're going to die from my new sheet to my New York apartment. We're speaking up. Shut up! The news is in. Check your phone. What? Give me my phone. Approved. Seriously? Seriously? Shut up! Why can't we start moving in? Get your bags and run, she said. I said, why can't we get-- [SCREAMS] Oh my god, I'm so excited. Hi, Jake's the resident. My day is May. Well, that was beautiful, you guys. Beautiful. I can't believe we got that on camera. I know. Oh, I'm so happy. I'm so excited. I'm still an L.A. boy. I'm L.A. through and through. Don't get it twisted. Do not get it twisted. I'm an L.A. man. OK, I will spend most of my time in L.A. Sorry. Not happening. Wow. And on that note, wow. Enjoy tonight's episode with Rob Roush. He's amazing. He's hot. As fuck. He's a traitor. He is lovely. And I am about to go buy a Birken with him for Mora. I love you, Pie. I love you. I've missed you so much. I missed you more. OK, let's go get lunch and see my new apartment. Thank. Fucking God. OK, I love you. Say bye, Pussies. Bye, Pussies, Missed you. Hi, Pussies. Today we have on the most strategic, thoughtful, and conniving trader of all time, Rob Roush. Hello, Jake. Hi. Are you shy? Yes. Oh, OK. I like your shoes. Thank you so much. Tell me, how are you? How are you doing? I'm good. I'm kind of sleepy. You're sleepy. Well, you've been working you like a dog. They have. I know. Are you upset to be here? No. OK, I was happy to do this. I've been wanting to do this for a while. I know. We've been talking about it. Since we saw each other at the Pickleball Celsius Classic. Yes, you did so good. No, I didn't. Did you win that? I didn't play. You were trying to get me to take your spot. Oh. I was like, no, it's all you. OK, so tell me everything. Like, I watched that final round table. And I was like, I was really glad. So like, that was like a really good television. Yeah, it was crazy, right? It's you, Tara, Mora, and Eric. That's right. What was your plan going in? My plan going in to that fire pit was to vote out Tara and then Eric and then win the game. Really? Like, you were at like, Eric, it's us. No, I was like that. But then when Mora came to me and she was like, Rob, you have to promise to get Eric out of the game. And I was like, I was like, no, look. I mean, it was the opportunity of a lifetime. Exactly. It's exactly what it was. It was like, well, what are you going to buy, or a Birken? I am. I'm getting it today, actually. If you want to come with me, really? OK. You could probably go-- Where are you getting the Birken? Madison, Fizz, Avenue. Are you going to Hermes? It's a good tourist store, I think. Oh, shit. I should probably know this. Are you going to go after this? I think of two 30. OK. Would you know what Birken you're getting more? Yeah, it's a size 30, Birken D with gold accents. Good for-- and what man of his word? Right. She deserves it. She deserves it. Like, in my opinion, she was the best trader. I don't think so. She was. She was on my team the whole time. If anyone brought my name up, she would snap at him. Like, Rob's not a trader. But she was a faithful. But she was a trader. She said, no, she's a secret trader. She was like a double-secret trader. OK, so tell me what you think the biggest mistakes that people made in the show were. Because I know my biggest mistake when Candice gave her throwaway vote for you. Yeah. Like, at that point, where you, like, Candice, were still in this together, or were you, like, I'm done with you. Because she was so defensive of Lisa. I had-- the first time she voted for me, I had a little bit of hope, like, I was upset about it. But then when we got to the turret, and it was like, she lined me up, lined him. Because we only shit. Like, it was like, if we were not telling each other, I was like, it's over. I was like, there's no trust here in this turret. Well, because you know how swipes don't go against housewives. I know that now. You were so-- did anyone here watch the show? [LAUGHTER] OK, so I've never seen traders before. But now that I have seen it, do you think I would be a good trader? Or do you think I would be a better faithful? I don't know. I think it depends on like, can you remain cool under pressure? Nope. Not at all, really? Nope. Yeah, you be a bad trader. Like, you really like kept it down. Like, I-- and it just ate me alive. Everyone was like, and there's no way it's robbed. Like, behind the scenes, how did you watch the show? I did, I watched it. Because I didn't tell any of my family or friends what happened. So it was so fun to watch them watch it. So would you just be like, you have to watch? They weren't like, so you want to tell your family that you won? They all assumed I won. But they didn't know how. So they were trying to watch. But yeah, my sister accidentally found out. She read an email. She helps me with like, business stuff. Got it. So she accidentally found out. But no one else knew. How many siblings do you have? I have two older sisters and a younger brother. Whom is gay? She is gay. I had no idea. Wow, so you're like, oh, you know. Ally. Would you ever go to the Pride Parade? Yeah, if my brother wanted me to go with them, but I feel like-- Would you wear rainbow overalls? Yeah, if I was at a Pride Parade, yeah. OK, OK. So on the show, does anyone ever like hook up? No, I mean, you can't really. You know, it's very like a-- once we're off camera, it's like locked down. Like, you can't talk to anyone. Oh, really? OK, so-- Well, not really supposed to talk about that. It's like Disney World. Don't talk about what happens behind Disney World. What do you think happens behind Disney World? Well, there's just a bunch of like machinery and stuff that makes everything move, right? Hydraulics and whatnot. Do you think it's like the back rooms? Yeah, it's like the back. Is that something? I feel like that's something I don't know what that is. It's a cultural reference that I just referenced that I am also not sure what it is. OK, I think it's just like satanic underworlds. Yeah, no, it's not like that. Do you like or do you still live in Alabama? I do, I do. Roll tide. Roll tide, yeah. Roll tide. We have a Bama girl in here. Raise your hand. Roll tide. It does galusa. Tuscalusa, what's the taco place? Taco. Taco mama. You go to Taco mama? It's on my favorite. I've been-- You know what? Thank you so much. We were in Alabama for one day. And she's like, you got to go to Taco mama. You got to go to Taco mama. I'm looking up the reviews of Taco mama. And everyone's like, I ship by pen. It's the picture of Margarita. That's like it, though. But what do we say? I hate fun. You want to go out? How long are you in the city for? I'm here till tomorrow. Tonight's my last night. To go out? Sure. Really? Yeah, I go out with you. Really? Yeah, I feel like we'd have the best time. I think so, dude. Oh my god, I love you. OK, so what's the difference between that you found on traders versus love Island? Like with love Island? Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Can I answer the question? Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Yes. OK. With love Island, I think the main difference is it was my mindset. Going into love Island, I'm like, oh, I'm in Fiji. I'm going to talk to you like, pretty girls. It's going to be great. I'm going to find someone, maybe I'll get a girlfriend. But it's not like that at all. It's like, it's like psychological torture. And you don't sleep. And it's like, OK, yeah, you really like this girl? Well, she's dead. We were taking her out of here. You know, it's crazy. But you're not really playing a game. But going into traders, I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, these are not your friends. Mm-hmm. They were not. These are your opponents. You're here to beat everyone at a game and win. So I just had a very different mentality. Around the fireplace, when you, it was just you and Mura. And she looked at you. And she said, no, I'm a faithful. And you acting down. We're like, you were like, no, like in your body. Were you anxious? Or were you like, I'm about to fuck this shit up. No, no, I was very anxious. I was like, oh, shit, oh, shit, oh, fuck, oh, shit. I gotta tell her that I'm-- She felt what she angry in the moment. - She got over it so fast. Like she literally looked like she went through every single emotion you could possibly have. And at the end, she was like, well played. I would have done the same thing to you. - Exactly, and so tell me about the strategy with getting Lisa out. Because that came as a surprise. I would say that was a surprise for me. It was that moment I feel like of like, okay, are we traders together? Or like, is it any man's game? - Yeah, yeah, it was any man's game, but I think that it just, it was, she was gonna go. Like she wasn't convincing a lot of people that she was faithful. And so she was going to get banished. It was a matter of time. And something that was referenced a lot, they didn't really talk about it a lot in the show, but well, something that was referenced all the time when we were talking in the castle about who could be a trader, who could be a faithful blah, blah. It's, they talk about the history of the voting. And like, the people that voted for Don and Knight One, they're like, they have to be faithfuls 'cause they voted for a trader, like, immediately. And so I wanted to kind of replicate that with Lisa. I wanted to vote with her as soon as this suspicion was honored, so that when people looked back, they'd have been like, well, Rob's a faithful. Like, he voted for Lisa immediately, a trader wouldn't do that. - Thank you, Seaky, for sponsoring tonight's episode. It is finally becoming summertime, which means concert time and fun, but in the winter, I saw someone say this, it is theater time. 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Thank you Seaky for sponsoring tonight's episode. (upbeat music) You're so smart. I didn't go to eighth grade, but. What? Oh, you were homeschooled. Tell high school. I went to real high school. Okay, and what was real high school like for you? It was a learning experience in many ways, more than just academics. What do you mean by that? I was just weird, I was weird, you know, because I didn't really have social skills, still don't really have the best social skills, but yeah, it was, yeah, I didn't understand. I pretty much never wore clothes growing up. I just wore boxers or just shorts. I would pretty much never wear a shirt. So when I started going to school, I didn't realize, like I think honestly the biggest thing where I was like, these people are so different than me, was I would go to school. And if I had my body covered, I thought it was good. It's not really what it is. Like I would wear like striped shirts with plaid shorts and like I work crazy outfits. And it was all handy downs for my cousins and stuff. So I just kind of threw clothes on, went to school, never did anything with my hair or anything. I just went to school. And then I was like looking around, I was like, you know, like I really stand out. Right, did you make money friends? I did, I did. I made a lot of really good friends in high school. You play football? I did play football. You like? I love football, I love to baseball. Was it like Friday night lights? You've never seen Friday night lights? I have seen Friday night lights. Okay. And it wasn't really like that because we weren't that good at football. But was it still exciting like every Friday, like the game? Yeah, yeah. I mean, like in the South, like football is like big thing. Like everybody comes to the games. Everyone's family, random guys. You see it gas stations will be there for some reason. Oh, yeah. What's your favorite Southern delicatessen? Delicatess? Delicatess, what is the word? Delicacy? Shut up. What is your favorite Southern delicacy? Oh, goodness gracious. Probably like biscuits and gravy. Hmm, do I know mine? Yeah, gumbo. Ooh, that's a good one. Do they have good gumbo and Alabama? It's more of a Louisiana thing. I know that. But there's a lot of folks that can cook good. My best friend's dad makes a mean gumbo. He puts ochre in it. You like ochre? Fuck no. Oh, I hate ochre. I like fried ochre. But what the hell? You can't hate ochre, but like fried ochre. Because I don't taste the ochre when it's fried. That's not true. That is true to me. What are you tasting? Fra, like salt, salty. You smoke weed? Um, rarely. You fun high? No. I, you know what? I can see that. Yeah. I can see that you just get quiet, you're quiet, you're quiet, sweet boy. You're not verbal. Yeah. Absolutely. I do. Um, and then I just, I'll come up with the craziest conspiracy theories. I have to smoke alone or with one person that I trust with my whole being. What's a conspiracy theory you believe? I don't have any that I really believe, but I am interested in them. Okay. Okay. So, my favorite one is a gartha. Are you familiar? They're earth is hollow. There's aliens in there. Oh, come on. No, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Listen. Okay. An article. That means me. An article, right? Yeah. You've been? No. No one's ever been. You can't. And you can't go. Okay. And even if you're a scientist and you have all this clear, it's probably well, you can go, but it's like this little tiny part of anarchy, you can go. You can't go there and you can't fly over it with an airplane. And if you do, they'll take you. Because you in every country owns an article, isn't that weird? Is that kind of weird? Who the fuck wants an article? That's not true. It's not like you're with Korea. It basically is. Look at that. So, no one lives in Antarctica. There's a small scientific guild in Antarctica, but it's a very small piece of the land that's there. And you can't go anywhere else. You cannot go to Antarctica. You can't go. You can't go. Please, someone fact check this. Look it up. So, it's rare that commercial airlines do obviously because they're like not collecting a check because who the fuck wants to go to Antarctica. No, it's the airspace is not public domain. Oh my god, Rob, I am just having a gollygeo time with you. Me too. With you, though, not me. And you know what my favorite moment in all the traders was? What's up? You needed to get a drink. You picked up the glass, threw it in the air, caught it in the other hand. I said, oh hell. I was like, did you see that? I didn't even see that. You didn't see that? You know, I need a drink. Boom! Oh my god. I do have pretty good hands. I've got good hands. I did notice when I got the coin, I like threw it up and flipped it. I was like, I got a shield and I was like, why did I do that? That was a little. What? Can you explain the shields? I still don't understand. I do feel like the challenges and stuff are super complicated, but okay, so shield basically is if you are a faithful and you have a shield, you cannot be murdered that night. So why? I don't understand then why people aren't like, give me the shield. It's all so clearly like, I'm a faithful. I want the shields. I don't understand why people were like, no one's going to take a shield tonight. Why? I completely agree. I thought that was the dumbest thing ever. Yeah, the one challenge where I don't remember who it was, someone was like, no one take a shield or you're getting banished tonight. I was like, how would you get banished if you have a fucking shield? Yeah, I was like, hashed it. Well, you can't get banished. How do you get banished? Yeah, I get murdered, but I was like, I was like, hashtag, thank you. Now we can murder whoever we want tonight. Right, exactly. I thought that was crazy move for the faithfuls, but you know, it worked out for me. Are you and Lisa still close? Yeah, I love Lisa. I die for Lisa. She's hilarious. Because she's such a good, oh, she's been on the show. Oh, shit. Yeah. She's going to kill me for that. Why? Because I'm supposed to know everything Lisa's ever done. Is that what she says? Yes. She is, you know, she is such a professional. She's so one of a kind. Did she give you any tips on how to be on reality television? I know you had already done love Island, but was she like just, it's a different, because it's a different ball game. Was she, did she ever give you any advice? A ton of, not while we were there, but after like post show, she's called me like several times and talked to me because like, I get, I get anxious, I get anxious about me and talked about online. Yeah, I got that. And, um, and yeah, she's been so sweet and she's called me and spoken with me about it and told me, 'cause she's been through it all, you know, I mean, she's, she's a veteran. Well, you know what's interesting that I always find interesting about reality television is that reality television stars, and I don't know if you found this, are spoken about online. Oh my god. I didn't even see this. What is this? Oh, you. Who put this up here? We can just get rid of it. We saw, we saw. Yeah. Hey, say hi. Hey, you think I, can I get that to my mom? She would love that. Really? Yeah. Yes. Okay, so what I find interesting about reality television and the way it's done. discussed. Is that it is discussed in the same way that you would go on Twitter and talk about a character on Grey's Anatomy. The difference with reality TV is, that is you. Like you are, you are a character, but that is you as a person. So it hurts 10 times more. You can't be like, that was written into the scene. You're like, that is me. So do you feel like obviously your season of Love Island was the biggest to ever do at? Do you think that prepared you for what people were going to say about you on traitors? Or did it hurt just the same when people would say, not nice things? Yeah, no. Honestly, I think if anything, Love Island made it worse. I think it's just like the kind of like just trauma from that. Because I'm not really someone to really care about what people think about me that don't know me. But I mean, I'm sure you know how it is. Like when people say things about you over and over and over again online, like you just, it just gets to you more and more and more. And then like things had settled down from Love Island to like a certain degree. But then, you know, this show was a hit and people are just talking again. But yeah, it, it, it's not fun, I guess. Of course not. Yeah, it's, it's fine though. Yeah, you're, you're okay. Yeah. You look good. Well, thank you. You do too. Okay. Whoa. So it's so funny. You say that. I have you ever gotten Botox? No. Have you? Wow. What's Beachwood clinic? Brightwood clinic. I went, I went to go get a facial the other day called an awkward gold facial. So it is a facial where they like inject little bits of Botox into your face, but it's not like Botox. Like I'm not getting Botox in my face. What is it? No, that, that explained it pretty perfectly. It's like a just teeny amount of Botox that they, but it's not like I can't, like I can still move my face and stuff. But as I was getting it, I'm like, Hey, so I've been seeing this thing that I really want. And it's like neck Botox that like pulls up your neck. So you're like like this a little, like it makes your jawline more defined. And they were like, you just want it. And I was like, like right now. And they're like, yeah, we have it. You can do it right now. And I've always been so hesitant to do Botox. So I did it the other day. And everybody keeps saying my jawline looks so defined. It does look fine. Yeah. No, it's. Yeah. But when I go, it's a little tight. It's a little tight. I can't like, you know, like it's like, yeah, really? Yeah, you feel like you don't have good. No, I can do that. But I'm on Broadway now. So like, you know, I got to show my facial expressions. When do you leave tonight? I leave tomorrow. So do you want to come to the show tonight? What time is it? 7 30. Can I do that? You know, I don't you worry about it. I'm sorry. I'll get you a recording. Yes. Thank you. Of course. Where are you going next? Where are you off to next? Um, I don't watch, watch, watch. Who is the guest? Who's the guest with him? Just me more. Got it. Well, final two. Yes, top two. What was your favorite part about filming traders? Like what was your part where you're like, I am having fun right now? Um, probably the car ride out of there after I won. I was like, hell yeah. I'm done. Stop lying. Is it two weeks? Just two weeks of filming? Three. Three. Let me ask you something. Okay. The smoked salmon. Oh, yeah. What is the whole hull of blue with the salmon? And why do they have so little? I don't know. Everyone gets their first call the salmon. What would you eat on a night to night basis? Okay. Dinner time. What would they serve? Chicken. There's a lot of grilled chicken. And then look, and you know that shit's been sitting the fuck out too. Yeah, it was usually cold. It was. I'm telling you, it was a huge step up from love Island. Love Island was like every day it was grilled chicken and it was always somehow undercooked and like overcooked at the same time. I felt taken to advantage. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think you were too. I mean, I think everyone, like, I think everyone felt that way a little bit. Yeah. Do you keep in touch with any of the cast? I know you keep in touch with Kendall. Yeah. I talked to Kendall, Kailer, Dr. Serena sometimes, Dr. Jenae sometimes. But like, I got love for all of them. Like, we all went through that together. And I really am mess with everybody from that. I mean, that show was that summer. Rob, like, to me and my heart, like, oh my God, you guys couldn't hear Brat when it came out. Could you? We're having a brat summer. We didn't even know. Oh my God. I'm going to start crying. Like, I was in New York when Brat came out and I went to go see Louis and she looks at me and just goes, it's just so kind. And like that moment for me, like, shifted my life. Love Island was out. We were going out every night, listening to Brat, flying across the country, doing whatever. And at the same time, every single night, we had you. It's true. Once you're birthday September 1st, Virgo. Yeah. That's why you want traders. Yeah, really? With very in control, likes control. It's the only thing I know about Virgos. I feel like everyone always tells me I must be like super organized because I'm a Virgo. I'm not at all though. I don't know how true that stuff is. You really into astrology. I mean, like I say, I am. What do you think I am? You're probably you're probably a cancer. You're probably Leo. You're probably a Sagittarius Pisces. I think it's all of them I know. Keep going. I don't Libra. Come on, Rob. Come on. Taurus. Come on. You know these. My brother's really in astrology. Boy, yeah, he's gay. We love that for him. He lives here in New York City. Hi. How old is he? He's 25. Is he having the best gay time of his life? Yeah. He lives here with his boyfriend. They're the best. Are they so in love? They are. Let me dig for forever. How'd they meet? They met forever ago in Alabama of all places. They found love in a broken place. Is that what it is? It hopeless, but you were there. Do you still listen to B. Bedoubie? I do. I do listen to B. Bedoubie. B. Bedoubie. I said it right. You said B. Bedoubie. Okay. Whatever. Do you what else have you been listening to these days? Do you know Ash Tuesday? Do you know Brian James? Well, you should listen to them. They're really country. No, or they're like Indie. I would say I love how much you love Indie music. I do love Indie music. Do you like Bonnie there? Have you heard his new album? Maybe a song. No, no, no, no, no. Do you like the idea of like like do you get deep in your mind? Yeah, 100%. Okay. So this album is so spectacular. It's like, I don't know if I would describe it as a concept album, but it starts very melancholy. There's side one inside too. And it starts very melancholy. And then the second side, there's a song. And he says that this one lyric, like that's a mood shift. He says like a hopeful lyric for the first time in the album. And when he says that lyric in that song on the second side of the album, the beat shifts entirely. And the rest of the album is very uplifting. It is one of the most beautiful albums I've ever heard in my entire life. I'm going to have to listen. called Sable Fable. Okay. You have to listen to it. I'm on it. I'm on it. What other Indie artists do listen to? Do you look on my Spotify? Yes. Oh, I've been listening to Oasis recently. Top 10 anime Patrails by Ash Tuesday. It's been on repeat. Dumps are diving by Brian James has been on repeat. These all sounds like these all sound like songs that I think I would like. Gucci main swing my door. That's that's a little out of like that. I don't like rap musical a whole lot, but that one how does it go? You want me to play it? Sing it. Bird one. Bird one. I don't know definition of the South. But if I listen to it here, there's some holes in this house. Swing my dough. Swing my dough. You know that swing my dough. I count 18, five every time that swing my dough. Swing my dough. Yeah, that's pretty it goes. That sounds good. Do you like pump, listen to it as like a pump up song? Yeah, yeah. I listen to it on the way to the gym and then at least once or twice while I'm at it. Hey, so what do you do in the gym? What do I do in the gym? I lift weights. Okay. How like what is the timing of that? Like how long do you say you lift weights for? One to two hours. What? Okay, so I do 30 minutes. Okay, you did so good, Jake. What do you do? What do you do? So do you want to know what I did today? Yeah, absolutely. I had a push and pull day. Okay, good. So I did chest bench press bench press and then I did incline press. Yes. And then I did cable flies. Okay, good. And then I did pull ups, one round. Cut it at that. How many pull ups can you? That's good. That's really good. Shut up. That's good. Should we go do pull ups in the gym after this and see how many can you do. Right now, max. 12 and I can do eight. Yeah, not me gagging. Wait like so I'm like strong. You're super strong take. You could you could you could you could only do 12. Alright now that you're talking all this shit, I'll probably do 15. Okay, but I don't know. We'll have to see honestly. Okay, so what made you decide to do I wait, sorry, sorry, wait, just before you move on. I can do pull-ups with just two fingers. You can now keep going. What do you mean you do pull-ups? I can do pull-up with just two fingers. That's all I need. I got really good grip strength. Test it. Okay. Wow. What made you decide what made you decide to do traders over beyond the villa? There was no chance I was doing beyond the villa. I mean, respect. Yeah, I mean, like not and not because of like drama or like anything to do with the cast, like love them all. It was just like it was in LA and they're like, yeah, like just moved LA. It's a docky follow. I'm like, brother, that's not what docky follow means. Like I don't live in LA and they're like, no, but like you're going to be coming to visit all of your friends and I'm like, no, I'm not, I know, it's not real life. I love how true to yourself you are. Thank you. Do you still like call Alabama home base? 100% 100% I'm going there tomorrow. What are you most excited about to go home to? The warmth, uh, rubbing motorcycle and it's like just about time for the snakes start coming out. So tell me about the snakes. What do you want them to help? Why? Well, I think that they are misunderstood creatures and I think they're really beautiful and I am passionate about sharing that with the world. What is beautiful about them? They're gorgeous. Can I show you some pictures? Okay. But how do you know? Like, I'm confused. Like, I'm like, they scared the shit out of me. Like, how are you? How are you not like, oh my god? No, I'm going to show you the snake and you're going to be like, this snake's about to beat my shit out. Look at this thing. Look at that. Oh, well, that is just gorgeous. That's like an alien. Yeah. It's an Asian vine snake for the folks at home. I hope you find such an amazing life. Oh, thank you. I really, like, wow, you are a good person, aren't you? I try. I try. I try my best. Do snakes have sex? How? With their sex organs, cloaca. But like, how do they like have sex? Uh, it's a lot of wrapping around. Hmm. Do the snakes have brains? Yes. Do they like communicate with each other? Hmm, somewhat during the mating season, yeah. What is the most proud you've ever been of a snake you've caught? Oh, I caught the rarest snake in Malta on accident. It was awesome. And what do you do with that snake? Just put it back where it was. So you have a good day. But you took a pic to meet and greet. It is like a meet and greet. That's for me. It is a meet and greet. I'm very, very excited. Say hello, take a picture and let them go. Okay, so we have a fun new section that we're introducing to the show. It's called Mani's Corner. Mani, raise your hand. Mani. Mani likes to just write a few questions out that she would like the answers to. Okay. It's Mani's Corner. It's Mani's Corner. How did Mani get a corner because Mani is one of the most funny and talented writers I've ever met my entire life. That'll do it. If your trailer suddenly exploded and you had to move, would you get a house or still pretend to be humble? Yeah, I should live in a house now. Reggae news. What kind of snake do I remind you of? The ones that have a whole egg in them? Sure, yeah, egg eater. Go for it. You caught your first snake at four years old. Were your parents proud? Scared or absent? They were present and scared. Okay. Last one. People say you're hard to read. You were also homeschooled. Is it also hard for you to read? Yes. Okay. Well, I'm just lexic. So I am. So is my brother and my mom? I stand with them. And that's Mani's Corner. That was great. Good job, Mani. She's quite the corner. Okay, so Rob. Rob, what are you there pissed about today? They're pissed about it's like angry, right? Yeah. People that stand up on airplanes right when it lands. You do that, brother. Beep up. Why? Why? Because let me get my bag first. Why, though? You're not going to get on the plane any faster. Like just sitting your foot. No, you're not. Yes, I'm fucking like maybe max three people faster than you were going to. We're taxiing. We're taxiing. We're taxiing. Beep. Oh hell. No. And this is me. This is me. You just wait. I just sit there until I open the door. Why? Because what is the point? I've been sitting for five fucking hours. Let me get my bag. Oh, my gosh. So, so let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. We're on airplane. On the aisle. Okay. Okay. Ding. Yeah. And then I'm like, fucking hell. Okay. Your turn. Yeah, I get up and I let you get out. Yeah. And then I'm like, do you want to get your back first or do you want me to step over? I'd let you go. And then I'd sit back down. Wow. Yeah. What a gentleman? What is your dream wedding? I don't think I have one. I think you want to get married. But I think I guess my dream wedding is to marry the love of my life and it works out forever. And we have beautiful children and a meaningful marriage full of love. My dream wedding is that I marry someone that I think is attractive. That is funny, but not too funny. You have to be funnier then. I would like to be funny. I would like to make that. I want to wake up every day and make them laugh. But my dream wedding would be like 150 to 200 people. Depending on who wants to come, we could reach 250, 300, but I'd rather max it at 200. I would like it to be a broad. Okay. Destination wedding with 300 people. You're a little selfish. Okay. It's a little rude, 150, 150. Okay. You know what? Maybe I'll do like a Charleston wedding. Charleston. Sorry. That's me like I'm just trying. I don't want to Charleston. I love Charleston. I think I want to do a wedding. Do you know what your dream wedding is? I want to do a wedding in Italy. No, I hate the food. I also maybe. No. You should do it. Gulf shores. Alabama on the beach. Oh my god. That's her dream wedding. Floor, Alabama. She literally loves Alabama. Do you know she has a group of girls from college? Okay. Imagine what sorority we're doing. How about Alabama? What the hell? She like really she loved Bama down. Like that was that is her Roman Empire. I think she will look at you and tell you she peaked in college. Oh, I would not. Okay. Sorry. I think that me going to Alabama is like your Roman Empire for me. Why? You know what I mean? Like I feel like you love talking about the Lord that I went to Alabama. She had this group of girls. Imagine having a friend group of 20 plus girls that all get along. No, that's not true. That's what I said. She goes, you're just toxic. There's no way. They're called they're called the Peppas. The Peppas like the pig? Yes. They're going to love it. Say hi Peppas. Hey Peppas. They always come to my show. They do you know? By the way, I just call this one of the Peppas that she went to go see my show. They posted a photo of Louisa dinner and wrote give her a raise. You know, I saw that, right? I saw that and I was like, oh, this is public. I love the Peppas. They really have my back, but you know who my favorite Peppa is. Put it out there. The one with that thick, fucking accent and blonde hair. Oh, Ella. I don't know. Did you eat her in the airport? No, I met her at a show. I choose that girl. I just love you so damn much. That's for sure. She's like, I am Louisa's best friend. We are a Peppa like that. I love her. Yeah. I'll rely. What do you love? She loves you. Yeah, it's my favorite Peppa and VR. I love that. He's like, are you looking for love right now? No. Girlfriend? Tell me everything. Well, I'm kind of just like giving it like no, no, no, no, no, no, no names. No identities, but just tell me like how you fell in love. She understands me and she's very similar to me in the way that she communicates her emotions and that is something I've, it's been hard to find for me. How do you like to communicate your emotions? Like what is your love language? My love language is quality time. Okay. And acts of service. That's really how I give love more. But yeah, I would say what would you think my love language is? Hmm. gifts receiving or given both okay I think that's pretty valid I also think my love languages like affirmations words of affirmations like when I'm with a guy and he's telling me that he thinks I am attractive like it really makes me feel good inside or that he's more specifically like I am enjoying spending time with you okay can we face time Lisa yeah she's not gonna answer I have wrinkles let me see no those are beautiful you might want to go into acting one day thank you text her and say important shall answer trust obviously everyone has heard about poppy I feel like the soda market is such a hard market to infiltrate and poppy like has now just preaching about poppy but they like really have become like a staple if you don't know what poppy is though it has five grams of sugar ingredients you can love and prebiotics like I drink one a day honestly I have one right here the Shirley Temple flavor which is my favorite flavor besides cherry lime aid back in the day when I used 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story here you oh Rob I really feel like we are like friends yeah I thought we were before this but no I know I we were but like I want to hang out dude I'm down well we're getting more as Birken yeah and it's is Alisa no Sean who Sean who Sean I know your last name I can't remember it right now is it someone that I would know he's just a my friend like he like we've been so boring okay can I ask you a question red motorcycle who has been styling you I'd like to give them credit Annie and Nora yes she has been doing an excellent job with your outfits I'm gonna have to agree because they are still true to you but you're elevated so Annie and Nora shout out you yes shout out Annie Nora how long has she been styling you for twice okay right yeah this no like twice is in trips like she everything I've worn the whole time I've been in New York has been to Annie and Nora and then also some stuff in LA right yeah some some photoshoots okay well what's next for you I don't know is that I know that's a weird question but like do you want to take a beat for a second I would love to take a beat like dream dream scenario would be I don't do any shows like in the next year and then maybe I do a show after that but I just don't know how realistic that is because like here's the thing with me like basically what I'm like I don't want to do this forever I know that for sure but like I don't want to also kind of half-ass it and not really do as much as I can and then and then look back in 10 years and be like damn I should have done like to use this for my kids college you know what I mean like a thousand percent yeah and and and then regret not capitalizing on momentum and you know all the stuff would you ever dwts what's dancing with stars yeah maybe you what I can't dance to but that's the beauty of it all I've seen high school musical though so like I feel like no I think you would learn they they like when Alex did it she was in that dance studio seven days a week like you if you I like them of firm believers if you like dedicate yourself hard enough to something you will get better you will do it you will you will improve that's true and I'm very competitive like I know if I know you're competitive I would give it my all like I would and that would be even more embarrassing because I probably still wouldn't know but you have pretty privilege yeah I know but like I don't want to be good at like I don't like doing stuff I'm not good at and dancing is one of those things that I just don't want to be an answer you know like I recently started learning to wheelie motorcycles and it was really hard that is very dangerous I would just like to tell you that gives me a lot of anxiety I really don't want you to get hurt I'm being dead serious that like freaks me out no very safe how can you be safe while wheelie in a motorcycle I take it slow okay I get better and better and better and now I can do it for like a whole minute that gives me really bad anxiety please be safe of course I was wearing a helmet always a helmet and maybe like a like a steel suit so if you look into that oh speaking of like fast-moving cars have you seen any of the Oscar norms this year no not a single one you're not a movie guy I like movies I'm just not like big like pop culture person so funny because you're kind of like the face of pop culture sometimes on occasion I'm I mean the conversation but yeah no I'm not really big on it do you what what television do you watch any television do you watch any movies I love like I like animated stuff like like some anime like I love avatar less airbender a person wreck I loved that show I like like those kind of like the office type stuff like funny stuff but currently really haven't been watching too much television so when you go home at night what do you do at night because you're not on you I assume I assume you don't scroll to talk I don't get that vibe from you I'm in occasion I will depends like the airport that's what I'm doing I'm on TikTok probably okay but when you're in bed and you're sitting alone the day is over I'm sorry I don't sleep so foreign concept wait I'm confused like you just like okay sleep time and you shut your eyes and you go to bed you don't take you don't take anything no what's that like I don't know I just like oh I play Fortnite I play Fortnite okay how do you deal with anxiety yeah writing motorcycles is a huge help it's like free therapy and then like doing anything that doesn't have to do with me is also really nice because I think that's really can be sometimes hard to do especially when your job is like fucking like go talk by yourself on a podcast or like go do like you ever show or whatever but yeah I think like doing something that has nothing to do with myself like helping someone being on my grandpa how my mom was something doing something like that like it's so good for it because you're like holy shit like oh we're all in the like we're I'm just a person I don't know does that make sense at all it reminds me of that scene and the Beyonce documentary on HBO I forget what it's called it's like if I something about dream and and she says that she stands by the ocean sometimes because you know as a public figure sometimes you can feel like everything you do is so important but she stands by the ocean to like remind herself that like it's nothing like you're nothing yes and so just is that is the mom is helping your mom and your grandpa your ocean yes in the creek and space I think about space sometimes that calms me down so much what do you think about space it's kind of the same thing as the ocean just like thinking about how insignificant I really am in the big scheme of things is a very peaceful feeling but can I ask you a question because I struggle with this a lot it's yes it's like okay who cares what anyone has to say about you but then when that's our job and that's how you make money for your kids and your life and if people hate you then you can't then your job then you don't have a job it's like what do you do like does that not well no anxiety it doesn't that doesn't just because of the simple fact of like if you just are being yourself it doesn't really matter you know at the end of the day like if people end up hating me and I know like things can get twisted so easily especially with reality TV you can be villainized or made look a certain way but like if you're always being yourself and you're true to yourself then you really can't go wrong because if that ever does happen then it's like all right I just move on but if I ever start trying to act a certain way to get people to like me to do right a performative type of thing then that's when you I think we're really getting to trouble with that kind of stuff because it's like oh you are not your fake your fake which is gonna hurt you on the inside but then also it's like everything everyone says about you isn't even true you know because you're not even real it's not even you what's the most what's something you've read once and been like that is so far vatched and everyone believed it I feel like I've had so many of those things I can't think of anything on top of my head but I've definitely seen that quite a lot and do you interact or do you just let go and let God I pretty much never interact I did recently though I was on a snowboarding trip and I was playing poker and I got really drunk and then we quit playing poker and I got my phone and I was just like keyboard warrior it's crazy it's bad what did you regret it I woke up and I was like shit but I had to snowboard so there's no time to think about that no [BLANK_AUDIO] over to kill soda because like no hangover but then also like sorry to kill a soda okay I've been struggling so much with my hangovers I went out last Friday night and then I two shows the following day I was are you drinking like sugary like no I drank dirty martinis with vodka all night yeah I feel like that would be not that bad for hangover maybe try to kill soda I'm gonna do it I think it's also hide like kind of hydrates you a little bit because it's water with it and also what I'll do is if I'm gonna be drinking a lot I would drink a glass of water in between every drink and then also okay okay what's your favorite place to visit and am I asking like the most random questions I just want to get to know you I'm here for you know what's your favorite place you've gotten to go to because of starting from love island to now what's your favorite place you can't say VG that you've gotten to go to for work yeah work only I mean just catching snakes count it's work but you just for work not just for work just like you've made money even if just like you made money you could take yourself somewhere that you never thought you could take yourself I mean that's hard because I I traveled so much before all this like for snakes those are my favorite places but like for work like that I've been to I don't know I mean like places that I would never go like I would never go to London on purpose I would never go to Scotland on purpose because it's like cold and stuff but like those are cool to see all that stuff and I'm like grateful that I had the opportunity like go and get paid to do that right because I wouldn't ever go there right you know just for fun so it's that's cool like I do appreciate that what is your favorite meal in Alabama probably sonic oh shut up no it's probably yum yum Thai sushi it's a it's really if you ever come to Florida if I ever get you down there to catch some snakes and hang out you know what though is I can't I've been kind of like ruminating on doing I take the show on on the road sometimes I take it on tour and we kind of overdid it last time we did like 50 something dates over the course of the year it was a lot but I'm thinking if I do like one night only in a few places Alabama would obviously have to be one of them favor Arkansas would have to be one of them if I do that I would love to go to yum Thai sushi with you have you been to yum Thai sushi it's sick I graduated from proper high school okay mountain broke where do you graduate from high school shows Christian do you know that a lot of people went to Alabama from there yeah do you ever wish you went to college I did go to college what I went to college what the hell where'd you go University of North Alabama we're rivals you and I know we we are like newly D1 okay did you have fun in college out of blast and then what made you say let's do love island okay let's do it do you just did you apply like on a whim or I didn't apply the DM me on Instagram shut blah blah you were recruited like Cindy Crawford yeah yeah wow how beautiful is that it was beautiful I just crazy I was actually thinking about that she posted the girl that recruited me posted on her story like never know when her random DMs gonna go that was on Fallon and she was like how was Fallon I was that was so cool to see you on Fallon I saw I saw I saw I saw all the photos and everything you looked amazing how was it it was cool he was really nice he was like he seemed like a genuine person which was like surprising and nice he was cool my sister cried and that was very sweet yeah my family is really proud my friends from back home were really proud I think for them like they were like wow like late night yeah late nights like the crumb de la crumb I just did my first late night as well yeah yeah how did you feel I felt I got there and I was really really really quiet because I was super anxious and then I I drink a Celsius and I kind of like opened up a bit I got excited and then right before I went out I did I do you ever do like these breaths where you go I do that and it like calm me down sure and then I walked I always think of anything scary I learned this from like when I went on tours like you're just jumping into really cold water we're like ripping a bandaid off and like once you're in the water like you're stuck also like you have to remind yourself that like some some I know this is a toxic way of thinking but if you're just like no like you are stuck like you have to do this right now you can't turn around and not do it like you have to do it so put on a fucking smile act relaxed and do it because you're here and you're doing it and there is no turning back like when I would do a show I'm like people bought tickets to this I'm not gonna be like I can't do it I'm doing it so just like you have to like set your mindset like this is happening I'm also on really really really really heavy medication are you no would you ever yes seems like you don't need it honestly yeah did you ever answer what you were therapist about yes people standing up on airplanes right right okay I'm gonna go pee really quickly if that's okay with you I like that one you know like and then we're gonna do the tell me what's wrong okay do you know what those are I think I can figure it out at least so how you doing sweetheart I'm with I'm with someone who wants to talk to you we're just talking about how much we love you oh my boys are together are you kidding I love this so much I miss you I miss you Broadway star how is it it's good it's good but I want I want I carry needs to make me pasta oh honey done yes we both go over yes we both can rob and I come over together and Harry can make us pasta done anytime morning noon or night yes absolutely wouldn't that be so fun that would be so fun oh I miss you so much I miss you and you know I love both of you so much what are you doing together right now the podcast you're on the podcast I am yes oh I'm looking so cute thanks a lot no you look fabulous as always yeah you I was about to say your skin's glowing you know I got Botox for the first time yesterday look at his jawline congrats wow it takes a minute to yeah that's what everyone that's it everyone say that's it everyone saying but why why did you get Botox because I was out of facialist and they were like we have it and I was like fuck it exciting exciting exciting I love it well you're so gorgeous anyway I will I love you and I miss you I miss you I'm so proud that you called I get a text message from Rob it's just as important and I'm like what the fuck is that I go this is for me hi and he's like yes I'm so happy you picked up we love you so much Lisa I love you this made my day you made our day we love you and I'm gonna see you soon I hope so for pasta yes for pasta Harry Hamlin's pasta and art is a working bag in the works isn't working I'm going with him I'm going with him to get it yeah I'm excited because he needs he needs a game man to show him and make sure that it's correct okay I'm so happy about this I need to see everything I'm sure I will but I need to see the whole burden situation we're we'll we'll we'll record it for you okay I love you I love you I love you Lisa bye thanks for picking up bye she really is the bass she is she like when she came on my show like it was one of the best episodes I've ever like it was some of the most fun I've ever had she is so professional and like you know when someone like is professionally okay so like she plays on housewives right like somebody that like fights with people right but you can tell for her that like it is a job and that she it's she's an actress and it is her but it's also a job and you can tell that in her heart she is a really good person that really really cares about the people she loves I completely agree yeah yeah no she's great and she's hilarious like I'm constantly laughing whatever I'm like she's okay why are you ready for the Tommy what's wrong I accidentally Venmoed my very recent X $300 instead of 30 for something I owed him for we broke up on bad terms and haven't been talking but I'm a woman of my word he is not now he is did she might call his tax etc what the fuck do I do how did she get that $270 back I would start telling all of his friends like get him to yeah yeah because of that would be embarrassing probably if she knows his friend she'd be like hey your friend is like he stole my money so I can have a better also maybe we can take a moment right now I don't know you but Venmo if you are seeing this please help this girl get her money back $270 please please help this girl get her money back - Wow, that was very good of you. - I told the guy I loved hiking to Seamount, Dorsie, and now I'm on our second seven mile hike on an incline with no service. By the way, I'm wearing platform converse. How do I survive this? - And this is why it's important to be authentic in relationships. - Yes, this happened to me once. - What happened? - A girl said that she loved hiking, and I took her hiking, and she had never been hiking. - I hate hiking. - And I respect that, honestly. - You know what, I would like you to sit here and tell me what you enjoy about it. - So, to be so, so for real, I really don't like hiking that much. It's just necessary to do what I do want to do, which is find cool snakes, you know? Like that's the mission, but I wouldn't go, like if we were somewhere where it's cold, and they're like, let's go on to like a four mile, five, 10 mile hike, I'd be like, I'm good. Like, there's no snakes, like I'm not gonna find anything cool. I'll think a picture of like something like that. - Right, I'm not really trying to do all that for you. - With the snakes, like, would you, like would you in a dream world, like host, like tourists, like tour groups on like snake tours, is that like what you would want to do? - It would be cool, but like, I feel like, it would get redundant, I'd get bored of catching the same, 'cause even now, like, I've caught the same species in Alabama so many times, like, I still enjoy that, but like, I get so excited being in range, like in Habitat for like a species I've never seen before, finding that, like, oh, it's just so excited, it's like Pokemon, you know? - So would you say the dream is to make enough money, to be able to provide for your wife and your kids, and travel around the world, and just catch snakes for the joy of it? - Yeah, yeah, straight up, yeah, that's perfect. - That is really beautiful. And I really, really think that that will happen for you. - I think you're right. - Would you ever wanna do a show where do you travel in across the world catching snakes? - Maybe. - It would have to be, it would have to be the right thing. You know, it'd have to be authentic, it'd have to be real, 'cause like, with these kind of like doggy falls and stuff, a lot of them are not really real. It's all set up and like-- - So could you self-fund it? And if-- - See, I think almost a better thing would be just a YouTube channel. - Right, yeah. - But I'm just really bad with all that stuff, so I need to get like a production company, or someone that would help me make a really good YouTube channel and do that. - And then I could bring people like, would you go snake catching with me for YouTube? - I would love to go snake catching with you. - It would be a blast. - I feel like-- - Wait, I would. Are you like around in the next few months? - Yeah, I'll be here. I'll be in-- - I'll be in America. - Yeah, where would you, like where, if I'm like Rob, let's go take a trip and catch snakes, where would you wanna go? - I would say, let's just go to Miami, let's go to South Florida and let's find some pythons. - And then go to 11 after? - No, I've never been. - What? - No, everyone says you gotta go, you gotta go, I don't know. - 24 hours. - It's scary, it's scary. - It's scary. - It's scary, it's scary, it's scary. - Oh, I'm having a time. - Yeah, I don't know. - Baby. - Okay. - We'll do the snakes and then we'll talk about 11 maybe. Oh, I will go to the hard rock. I like-- - You like the hard rock cafe? - I like a little bit of blackjack, you know? - Okay, I like the one where if you spend-- - We're lit. - Yeah. - You like gambling? - I actually quit gambling. I lost $20,000 in Vegas last time I was there. - Rough, yeah. - This girl in my class has a huge crush on my professor. She won't stop asking him random questions in the middle of class at the top of her lungs, including asking him about his family, girlfriend, et cetera. I know this is annoying, but it's at a point where we're actually missing information. - Bitch, really. You care about missing information in class. We need because they keep chatting eminent intermittently. The teacher isn't immediately shutting this down because she's hot as fuck, too. I slash we get involved. Why would you ever snitch? - Yeah, no, that's not it. - Why would you at first of all, first of all, is the information really that important? What do you learn in? - And who's winning here? - Like the girl get her bag, like if they keep, I mean, I guess she has a girlfriend, but it was always, always, always my dream in college to fuck my professor. Like always my dream, like I wanted him to take me like for like notes, and then like fucking, you know, like that video, like where the gay guy got fucked in Congress. Like that was like my dream with a professor. - I don't know that video, but (laughs) yeah, no, I'm sorry, you didn't get to fulfill your dreams. - No, my professor, my professors were like 80. - Oh. - And they would always fail me. - So was it more of a hypothetical thing, or was it like, - She's like, should I tell on her for like wanting to fuck her professor? - No, no, I'm in your situation. Like was there a specific professor, or like? - No, I wish, like I would still get butterflies thinking about it, like I literally, and I put back in the day. Like I've learned how to be a better flirt. Like once I have gay friends now, I used to not have gay friends. And having gay friends is very important. Because like, you know, there are certain questions you can ask your girlfriends. And your girlfriends will be like, ew. But because, you know, - Yeah. - Up that. - I get it. - Yeah, but like, when you have gay friends, you can ask them like, how to flirt. How do you do? And so it's very important. And I think if I had gay friends back in college, I would have been able to find a professor to fuck. - I think you might be, I think you might be right. I don't know. - Yeah. - But yeah, no, I'm against this. I'm against the snitch, always. - Always. Have you ever snitched on someone? - I don't think so. (upbeat music) - Actually, you want to do me a favor really quickly? - Oh, yeah, whatever. - Do you see that camera right there? - Mm, this one. - Ask Matt, say Matt. - Matt. - Is it true? - Is it true? - And now do that all at once. - Matt, is it true? Did you do it? - Or are you? - Or are you? What is this about? (laughing) - It's a long bit. - I just did it on the news, so don't worry. - Okay. - I found out the guy I've been hooking up with has a girlfriend because she requested to follow me and her bio says two years with my favorite person. - With his @? - I mean, you know. - I've been seeing this man for a couple of months. She must have requested to follow me because she's suspicious as I would be. Or she's been talking, or he's been talking about me. Do I tell her or just ghost him? So I would double check, I would check my facts. - Yeah, 100%. - Check my facts, do not go to the man first. Do not give him the upper hand. Check your facts, check your mutuals, check what's going on, if she's dating him, DM her, and say, what's going on here? - I'm with that. - And that's that. - Yeah. - I moved to a new city five months ago where I didn't know a soul. One of my girlfriends knew a guy that moved here recently too so she connected us. We quickly became going out buddies. And when we do, it's usually just the two of us. Last weekend, after a night out, we hooked up. I was in a long-term relationship for about three years before this, so I'm super confused. I've deaf caught feelings for this guy, but I can't tell how he feels. Oh, worst. I'm not the hooking up type at all. And I'm worried I'm about to be in either a situation or have to cut him off entirely. He's one of my only friends here making girlfriends post-grad is hard help. So to make girlfriends, I don't know what city you live in. I know this sounds like intimidating. I would really see if there is a run club in your area. My best friend, Brett, met so many friends doing the Venice Run Club in California, really and truly go and find a run club to make girlfriends. It really is just such a way 'cause it's a bunch of people that also want to make friends. - I think open communication in any relationship, whether it's an actual relationship or just hooking up is so important 'cause then that's gonna cause hurt. That's what causes hurt, basically. I think when something like that's happening is when one person is thinking when things are going on, the other person is thinking something else. So it's just better just to talk about it. Even if it's awkward, get it out of the way. Are you on the same page or are you not on the same page? And then if you're not on the same page, you're like, maybe you should cut it off. - Yeah, I faked knowing how to play guitar to impress this guy. And now he wants to jam with me this weekend. (audience laughing) - I feel like that's such a girl thing to do. - No, this seems like a game, man. I don't know, maybe it's a girl. I don't know a single chord. Do I come clean or learn overnight? Help, I'm so stressed. I think it is so endearing if you tell him that you were lying just because you liked him so much and you wanted to impress him. It is so sweet and so endearing. Come clean, it's endearing. Is there a prescription I can get or that a prescription is like a piece of pop culture, a movie or something that we give people. Like is there a movie that somebody pretends to do or be something that yes, Louise? - 27 dresses, sister. - 27 dresses, the sister does what? - She pretends to be a vegan and love hiking. I would watch 27 dresses. - James Marsden, he's in that movie. I met him one time. - Oh, okay, I was very confused. That's the way you were going with that. Do you watch Paradise? - I don't know what that is. - What is it? - I got it. That was really horrible. What just happened? (laughing) It's a show, just going to a blind. It's the best show on television. Not in getting, you would love it. James Marsden's in an amazing, yeah. And that was it for the Tommy What's Wrongs. - Wow, we did it. - We did it, we did that. And now we're gonna go get more of Birkin. I can't wait. Did you have fun with me today? Yes, I did yes. I also had so much fun with you We just had four of our friends now we both know That we're friends Hell yeah One more time That was it one more time all right There! That was sick. Okay Rob. What did we learn today? So much about love and life. I learned That you are Really authentically you That you are the same on camera you are the same off and I think that's beautiful And I think that's why you found so much success in an area that maybe you thought you would never be in Wow Well put thank you and thank you. I appreciate that. It's true. You are the same. You aren't literally the same I am I am literally the same. What did you learn? Oh also Eric wants me to tell you he wants you to buy him a Rolex But I said okay, well like yeah, he's trying to get that going but like he was a trader too. So like Eric I love you, but yeah Yeah, it's you know Birken's are expensive. I thought about maybe Birken stocks We can talk about it You don't like that getting more Birken I get him Birken stocks. Oh, that's funny. That's cute. You should do that That's funny. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. I love you too Okay, thank you Come on the show Um I will see you later to buy more of Birken. Amazing. Bye. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host shares a deeply emotional personal episode involving a recent romantic betrayal by a man who ghosted her, leading to intense emotional pain, crying for 15 hours, and a sense of deep rejection.
  2. Peyton, the guest, experienced a three-day silence after being disrespected, highlighting the emotional toll of unmet expectations and broken trust in relationships.
  3. The host reflects on how past experiences with manipulation—like being lied to about a man’s intentions—have shaped their current emotional vulnerability and skepticism toward trust.
  4. A recurring theme is the feeling of being “fouled left, right, in center,” where personal and emotional instability intensifies during times of crisis or transition.
  5. The emotional aftermath is contrasted with moments of joy and connection, such as receiving flowers from friends, a spontaneous visit to a crystal shop, and bonding with fellow guests.
  6. The episode transitions to a discussion with Rob Roush, a strategic reality show participant, where the hosts explore themes of deception, trust, and personal growth in high-pressure environments.
  7. A key insight is the difference between reality TV (like *Traders*) and *Love Island*, where the former is seen as a game of strategy and psychological tension, not genuine emotional connection.
  8. The conversation emphasizes authenticity, self-worth, and the importance of staying true to oneself despite public scrutiny or online judgment.

Summary:

The episode begins with a raw, emotional personal narrative from the host, who recounts a painful romantic betrayal involving a man who ghosted her after a dinner date. This event triggered deep emotional distress, including 15 hours of crying, feelings of rejection, and a sense of personal failure. The host reflects on how past experiences of deception—like lying to friends about a relationship—have made them more cautious and emotionally vulnerable.

Peyton’s silence and emotional withdrawal after being disrespected parallel this experience, underscoring the pain of broken trust. The host finds solace in small acts of connection, like flowers from friends and a symbolic crystal, which represent emotional healing. The narrative shifts to a lighter, more strategic discussion with Rob Roush, a reality show participant, who shares insights on deception, loyalty, and psychological tension in games like *Traders*.

The hosts contrast *Love Island*—a show built on superficial attraction—with *Traders*, where emotional stakes are higher and relationships are more complex. A recurring theme is authenticity: the hosts emphasize that reality TV is not about genuine love but about strategy and manipulation, and that staying true to oneself despite criticism is vital. The episode ends with a mix of vulnerability, humor, and quiet resilience, highlighting the emotional complexity of modern relationships and the importance of self-trust in navigating them.

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The man texted her to meet after dinner, then never returned. She later learned he had gone to Cabo and didn't come back to her, which left her feeling deeply betrayed and rejected.

Peyton went mute for three days after being ghosted, sitting in silence and waiting for the man to text her, which never happened, leading to intense emotional distress.

She felt deeply rejected, emotionally shattered, and overwhelmed by guilt, especially since she had recently been through a difficult period of sobriety and personal turmoil.

She went to a crystal shop and asked for an exorcism, receiving an amethyst mushroom that she now keeps as a protective talisman.

In traders, participants see each other as opponents, not friends, and the mindset is about winning a game, whereas Love Island feels like psychological torture and is emotionally draining.

He found Love Island to be emotionally traumatic and more damaging than the traders show, as people online constantly criticized him, which hurt more than any in-game drama.

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