Session 104: Jake's Birthday w/ Brett!

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It really, really is. This season, I don't know what I expected after season one, 'cause season one was so insane to me, but this one just shattered everything that I thought it was going to be in the best way possible. I thought for the penultimate episode, because we both have been through so much this past year, this past season. And I thought it would be nice to have a friend on before our big season finale, which I'm really, really excited about. Brett talks about her marathon. I talk about the music I'm listening to. Obviously we talk about Showgirl. I would just like to also point out that in my previous Brett episode, I guessed the melody of Elizabeth Taylor. Have you heard this? Can Nolan, please, will you take a moment to show this? I know it will be amazing, Elizabeth Taylor. - I knew you were going to say that. - But like, I don't know how she can say Elizabeth Taylor. Like I literally, I guessed it. It was like every, how insane is that? That's crazy. This is also my birthday episode. I am recording this the day after my birthday, this intro. I am 26 now. If you would like to follow along my musical journey of the year, my 26 playlist has begun on Spotify. My 25 one just finished. It's like my favorite part of my birthday is always finishing my playlist for the year. I've done it since I was 22. I did, so I did USC. That's from ages 18 to 22. And then once I hit 22, I did 22, 23, 24, 25. And now I'm 26, my fifth year doing it. It's crazy. It's honestly, it's really nice to like look back on the year and be like, oh my God, this is what I was listening to musically. And it also was like a weird depiction of how fast the year goes by. Like for this year, like I look at the top of my 25 playlist and I'm like, how was that a year ago? But yeah, I'm 26. I feel old. I officially, I'm not sure I enjoy my birthday anymore. I was like emotional yesterday. Love presents. Got a few great ones. I'm really pumped about it. Few great texts, you know, like, but I think birthdays are just a little stressful sometimes. All my friends dressed up as me and surprised me with a hibachi dinner. It was amazing. My lifelong dream of going on last culture recess has come true. And that episode is out now as well with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. I got to do my, I don't think so, honey, which, I'm pretty proud of. I listened to it and I'm pretty proud of it. I was really nervous. I was like pretty proud of it. It was Louise's Roman empire. They shouted out Louise during the podcast. - All the time. - Yeah, she loved it. Okay, well, yeah, I'm excited for, I mean, you, every year I always get very anxious on my birthday, especially when I have a good year before. 'Cause I'm always like, okay, is it time now for things? Is it gonna be bad? Really just like that feeling of like, okay, I want to celebrate the good. Then I'm so scared of it being bad. But I think as I grow older, when I get really angry, and I get really anxious, I remind myself that like, no matter what happens, like I do have people around me that love me and like that does include you guys. And so I think it's a testament to the community we've built and my friends and my family. But yeah, I'm really excited for you guys to hear the episode tonight. It's really fun. We talk about the Louvre robbery. We talk about Bon Iver's album, Lily Allen's album, which is amazing, amazing. If you haven't heard Lily Allen's album, please go listen. And we obviously talk about life of a show girl, which we have on repeat all day in this household. I tell you my top three favorite songs, which have not changed, but I will. I would like to, I didn't say this at the time, and I would like to say this. I think the hook on Elizabeth Taylor makes it one of the best pop songs of the year. That hook is irresistible. Be my NY when Hollywood hates me. Only as hot as your last hit, baby. To submit Tell Me What's Wrongs, go to pastthatpost.com and click Tell Me What's Wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy and enjoy the episode. Love you, pussies. Bye. - You said you took off the weekend for me, which is actually, like I was aghast, or is that the word? Like I was shocked when you said that you would do that. You took off both Saturday and Sunday for me. - Yeah. - You're doing things you like actively don't wanna do. - Yeah, but I wanna spend time with you. - No, I know, we're gonna have fun. - 'Cause it's your birthday weekend. - I wanna just go shopping. - Yeah. - I would like to work out Saturday morning. - Yeah, or I'm going to Pilates. You don't want to do the run club that Louie wants us to do? Shit. I forgot about that. Well, honestly, I might be hungover. I have a birthday party the night before. Okay. So, like, maybe I'll just sleep in. Yeah. I get an IV. Yeah. Why don't you do that? Why don't I just, yeah. Yeah. So, we have a lot of things to talk about today. Yeah. First, do you want to get into your marathon? I mean, sure. Why not? Okay. Ow. Cramp. Cramp. Cramp. Cramp. Cramp. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Are you acting? Yeah. I've been practicing my acting. I only knew that because you just did it. I just did it. Did you believe it? Yeah. It was good. Really? You actually believed it? Yeah. I had no reason to think you were acting. Okay. So, I've been practicing my acting. Okay. That was really good. The marathon weekend overall, I would say, was a success in that my run club was so great. But then the race itself was a success. The race itself was actually horrible. I knew when she started posting Insta stories halfway through that it was just over. Well, yeah. It had been tears for a while. And I was like, you know what? And I learned this from you. We can cut this out if you don't want to end. No, I know what you're going to say. And I would openly say that. Okay. I learned this from Jake. Everything that happens to you is content. It's just your life. Okay? It really is. And I looked at her. Good or bad. Good or bad. I definitely was upset. You were upset. That it was going so poorly. But I was like, you know what? I'm going to get my phone out and I'm going to make a TikTok during the race. And I'm going to lift my head up and finish this thing. But it was really bleak. Because it was inspiring for people. Thank you. I think in that moment, yeah, it was content. But it was also like you were like, you know, it was inspiring to see you keep going. Thank you. Yeah. I think it's important to show the ups and downs of running because like for like a lot of people, they make every marathon seem like all rainbows and butterflies. And like, it's just like straight up not. And now I've had to go literally horribly and it's definitely defeating, but it's important to show. And a lot of people were saying like, this is more inspiring than if you had the perfect race, which like made me feel good. But it is, I definitely wanted to like reach my goal, but that's okay. Next time. Maybe. But then it's like, I don't want to put it. A lot of pressure on next time. Okay. And so what happened was you got a cramp. Yeah. But it wasn't like a running cramp. It was stomach. And I have never dealt with stomach issues like that on runs. I think it was anxiety. I've never had anxiety manifest in that way though. I know. But I, it's just my theory. I think you were really anxious. You kept bringing up the word anxiety to me. You were like, I was doing six and a half minute miles and I was getting a little anxious about it. And then I was going to slow down. I was anxious. I was anxious, but I've never let mental stuff like that get to me in races. And I've been running a really long time. But your body changes as you get older and like it manifests in different ways. Yeah. But the only thing was like, my stomach was literally like protruding, you know, when your stomach like protrudes when it hurts. Like, yeah, that's what it, that's what it was. And I said to Max, I was like, feel my stomach. And when he was running with me, that was so sweet. Yeah. He really had a sweater. And it was hot out. He, yeah. He sprung into action. If anyone's wondering like what happened, basically I got to mile like 21 and I like, I see Jake and people and I'm like, where's Max? I have it on video. I actually, you know what? Why don't we take five seconds to show the video? You look at me. I go, yay, Brett. You go, where's Max? Yeah. Because Max, cause you had texted. So basically we were in, I think we were in Chinatown. We were waiting for you. And Max said, oh no. And I said, where's Max? And he just showed me, didn't show anyone else. And he said, he showed me the text from Brett. Two words. it's tears that was it that's all she said and i said okay she's probably being dramatic like we're just like not gonna like just tell her to keep going like it'll be fine i obviously had no idea what was happening as soon as i opened my instagram and saw her post instagram stories of her you were like oh it's over i said oh fuck shit like there's no way she'd be posting instagram stories if she like something must have happened and then i was like you know what like let me just keep encouraging whatever so like let's go let's go she said where's max i said oh shit so he jumped into the race with me and then just he wasn't planning to run four miles with me it just ended up happening um and i i needed that you know moral support you almost dropped out of the race yeah i thought about it but then i was like i can't quit i can't quit i gotta even if you fucking walked even if i did i did walk some bit that's just so crazy that never happens to you it's never happened it's just it was a fluke it must have been just a fluke it was a fluke and i was in my best shape ever so it was just like a little bit upsetting because you put so much time and effort into marathon training and like if race day doesn't go your way like that's just like kind of that yeah and we had a great dinner that night yeah and like overall you know you'll live and you'll learn we went to the lake forest starbucks yeah i showed jake lake forest shout out lake forest um he finally saw the hometown um and it is what it is but you know i don't know what's next for me maybe i'll do a spring one maybe i won't but you're not done running marathons period no no no of course not of course not yeah but i just like you know i might need a break but i also might be like it fuck it on and i think when you're like fuck it is when you just fly yeah i mean it's still crazy that my first marathon was like my best time and i think it's because you were brett we got home at well actually i just interrupted you oh it's okay what were you gonna say i was just gonna say like i think that that's kind of a testament to like i was kind of just like oh like let's just do this and like now i kind of have more expectations on myself not even external but like on myself because i know i'm capable of more so i don't know i'm gonna have to change my mindset with my next one but that's okay it's just also funny because like that night it's not even like you were in complete silence in your room like me i got home from the night out at five in the morning that night and like was loud that night that first los angeles marathon no you were still out and i facetimed you when you and peyton were still out oh oh so we really didn't wake you up we just were out you didn't wake me up yeah you were out and then you came back and then that's when i didn't sleep so what should we talk about there were so many things okay the louvre let's talk about the louvre okay because this is coming out next week it's not my birthday yet contrary to it's almost your birthday it's six so the day this is out i'll already be 26 okay so let's talk about the louvre okay do you do you want me to go like do you have thoughts like i think here's the thing that's so crazy who the fuck is stealing those jewels i think it's so awesome i think it's so awesome like they did that i'm like you know they're selling that shit on like the black black black market like you think yes like they obviously or you know but have you seen some theories there are some theories that like a billionaire commissioned it like because they wanted them that feels like a really there was a theory that it was like a french inside job because the french government is bankrupt crazy wait okay so tell me more about that because how would these jewels help the frank french government they they would somehow have to sell them to someone and then i think it i i don't know they caught them these people no and i don't want them to but like i bet i was like thinking last night like do you think they like are on the internet like seeing like everyone like fangirl over them no what because i think anybody as smart as them to pull off what they did are not on tiktok one thousand percent but like i don't know like i think they are like reading books yeah but like you know what the crazy thing was about that crime it was very oceans eight but like in oceans eight they aren't that smart they're kind of just like savvy you know so it's like like they didn't do anything because it's a movie crazy no no no no like what do you mean well like in oceans eight like the people doing have you seen it no sorry that's okay that's okay but like the heisters like they aren't brilliant they're just like savvy in how they planned it and i think that's how the louvre people were what do you mean like it wasn't like rocket science like they literally sawed through a window and like scale the ladder you know i guess maybe like the security at the louvre just like wasn't as apparently it sucks apparently only like apparently 70 75 of the louvre like doesn't have security cameras or something insane so just like just no one try it i don't understand i guess just no one tries that's so that's also why people think it was an inside job okay so here's the reason this is what i'm just a little confused about on multiple fronts they okay and you know what i'm going to relate it to task so in task they get this like huge shipment of fentanyl right that he steals and they're like they can't sell it they're fucked yeah because they're obviously these the the the fucking motorcycle gang is like we are on the lookout for whoever's selling a pound of fucking fentanyl yeah you know what i mean yeah the same goes for this it's like hey uh if anyone's selling these specific jewels from the louvre like obviously we're gonna figure it out it's like in scandal when olivia got kidnapped and then sells herself oh right i think i took it too far with that but like i do you know what i mean like i don't see what their goal is here that's what i'm saying saying unless they like melt them down and like do some weird shit did you hear they dropped dropped something that they stole shut up yeah do you know that they dropped so they got away with a lot but they dropped a crown oh yeah what crown i forget but they like they got away on scooters and i think they were dressed no they didn't yeah they did no they didn't yeah they did no they did not yeah they did like what e-scooters i watched a fucking new york times video they got away on scooters yeah they had to be electrical maybe they are on tiktok i don't know this is like crazy why is it giving like they're like young or something i don't know i will say like the tiktok that gave me full body oh my god it was seven minutes right the fact that do you know the song robbers by the 1975 that like the have you ever heard this song probably these are the opening chords of robbers and the song is about it's just i don't think it's about robbers but it's called robbers and like these are the opening chords of it and like here if there was someone was like imagine this is the first song that they did and they're like oh my god they're like oh my god this is the first song that they listened to once they i have full body chills like we just stole from the loo yeah bitch yeah like do you know what i mean yeah sick and like all credit goes to whoever the fuck posted that on tiktok i i you're gonna check i'm gonna check but like somebody posted that on tiktok and said like imagine like you leave the loo you just committed a seven minute hike and you're like oh my god i'm gonna check and you're like oh my god i'm gonna check and you're like oh my god i'm gonna check and you're like that's the first song you play i just love that like everyone is a line that like this is awesome saint laurent cow girly love yeah also also also the loo by lord like they get home they drink and then we're the greatest down the back but who cares so the loo wait so what did they steal a bunch of like jewels like napoleon's jewels like napoleon's jewels like napoleon's jewels shut up yes oh my god they are probably like fucking and doing drugs and like i hope they probably feel like the shit do you think they're gonna catch them we may never know i think the mystique around who they are is so awesome the same you're right you're right there's any videos of this like i imagine them like holds up and like a paris loft like smoking cigarettes and like like with these jewels like one one of them's getting a little cocky with it and like pouring the jewels on them and they're like oh my god i'm gonna check and they're like oh my god i'm the bad and the other one's like hey like we got to take this serious and like one of them's like way too cocky and then the other one's like you know they start to like kind of turn on each other and like you know what i mean yeah yeah do you know what i mean that was beautiful like someone's like we're fucking like we're fucking like we're the fucking kings of the world and it's like don't celebrate too soon like we're not done with the plan yet like you know what i mean like that's what i envision yeah yeah and then like that got and then there's obviously one person in the middle swinging to both sides of the spectrum and like the guy's like come on isn't he such a fucking stick up his ass like we just robbed the loo yeah like do you know what i mean 100 and i think one of them is like a beautiful woman of course one of them is a beautiful woman 1000 preferably played by like isla fisher love that love that yeah yeah this is totally gonna be a movie of course seven minute In broad daylight. By the way, if they can rob the Louvre in seven minutes. minutes i can do anything so fucking true i can do anything yeah i can fucking walk on the treadmill for seven minutes i can read a book for seven minutes i can and i think you should now hold on no yeah wow that joke was horrible what now hold on it wasn't horrible it was pretty bad no i'm just i thought it was gonna be like you know well i didn't know if you were offended by me offended by that i should read a book yeah i probably should i don't read it's only because i also haven't been reading and i picked up a book yesterday for the first time in a really long time and it made me feel good what book it's called um just another missing person ew jesus christ you know i only read thrillers just another missing person just another one of those you um so we covered the loof anything we're missing about the loof i think that's it okay should we say what our three songs would be on our seven minute playlist yeah okay you go first okay i would go in to uh this song by santi gold shove it i would go into shove it by santi gold that like that would be like my like let's fucking do this thing song okay so i guess that would be like the first one first three minutes and then the next four minutes would be like about leaving or three minutes yeah like am i still hyped up at this point like right like i'm not i'm not out of the woods yeah i would then do out of the woods otherwise you have to although part of me feels like it would give me anxiety i still want to be like let's fucking do this thing okay no like i'm trying to think of like someone that makes me feel confident like yeah when i listen to them like i feel confident yeah like i feel like i can i'm on top of the world there's a lot like adela makes me feel confident i don't know what my middle one is but i know that i would end with robbers i think i would do the loof than robbers okay i think i just fully copied that spotify playlist you sent me no but i swapped out one you swapped out one which i'm gonna use the song off that too i think no i don't think i would do the loof because i would be like oh the loof set like i think when i would hear that song i'd be like so like monumental like this place that i'm stealing from okay i can't play any game i take it too seriously a little but that's okay you know what what if i did like since you've been gone love that no i would get tired okay um do you guys have any ideas i'm thinking i got one what um yeah i fucking did it by labyrinth oh have you heard that one he doesn't like it he doesn't like it you you you you you you're awesome you are you are awesome nolan okay i think i would just shove it by sandy gold and then i would do i love you nolan love you too i would just shove it thank you i would just shove it by sandy gold and then i would do i would just shove it by sandy gold and then i would do i would just shove it by sandy gold and I mean, how many times have I said shut up? I can't even. Literally 10. 10. And then I would do. Okay, wait. No, yes. Can we reference our, because I need an idea for my second one. Oh. I have such a good last one. Okay, don't tell me yet. Okay, so I would. Oh, my God. We all know my first one by now. And then I think I would do a song off of Brat. I think I would do a song off of Brat. I'm very. 360? I think I would do 365. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I would do Shove It by Santigold, 365 by Charli XCX, and I would Leave to Robbers by the 1975. Okay, do you want to hear mine? Yeah. Okay, I would go in with Kids by MGMT. Wow. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. And then the middle song, this is the one that I'm, like, iffy on, but I think I'm going to go with. Brat. Paparazzi by Lady Gaga. Why? You don't like it? No, I do. It's just slow. No. Baby, you'll be fine. Okay, okay, you're right. No, I'm not here to yuck your yum. No, no, no, you're right. This is the one that I'm. I want you to be hyped up. Like, you have to get out of the loop. Okay, okay, then I'm doing Ready for It. Fuck me. Fuck me. And you want to know what I'm fucking leaving to? Getaway car. No. What? Heaven Takes You Home by Sweetie Teller. That's Mafia. Ah! My God! Is that one so good? When heaven takes you home. Anyway, I thought that one was sick. Okay, that was so fun. Yeah, that was fun. Okay. Well, shout out to the robbers at the Louvre. Maybe they're watching. You guys really gave us something to connect over as a community. Yeah. Over these past few days. Yeah. They're probably not watching Therapist. It's been that. Well, you never know. It's been that and groups. I'm not group seven, but we don't need to talk about that. I'm not group seven. It's okay. Are you group seven? What the fuck? Are you group seven? What the fuck is group seven? Of course you and I are both not group seven. It's okay. So like this show. Okay, just out of curiosity, this showed up on your For You page. Yeah. And it said you are group seven. Yeah. And then there was all this shit about like being group seven. No, I know. What are you bringing to recess today? Isn't that what you're doing? Isn't that what people comment? Someone commented, hey, what are you bringing to lunch? Yeah. I don't know. I'm 25. I don't really know where it came from, but that's just been my For You page. Whatever. Whatever. You wanted to talk about Lily Allen? Oh, shall we? So are you going to care about this? No. Oh, kind of. Okay. I love Lily Allen. Like when I was in eighth grade, like Lily Allen. Lily Allen was like, she released this album called Sheezus. And I loved Sheezus. See, like I like hearing this stuff because like I don't know it. Okay. So I really love Sheezus. She also does like Fuck You, The Fear, Who'd Have Known, Not Fair. Like she is a banger. She's LDA. And I used to listen when I was like, remember when I went to, like do you remember when I went to London a few summers ago? Yeah. We were tiffing. Yes. I was really going to go with that. I was going to go with that for you. No, I know. But I like, I listened to LDN like on repeat in London. Okay. Okay. So like, I love Lily Allen and she was married to Dave. You'll be interested in this. She was married to David Hart or Dave Harbor from Stranger Things. They got divorced? They got divorced and it was fucking messy. And this album is like insane. So the opening song, so the album's called West End Girl, right? Okay. So the opening song is basically. So basically her being like, I, I, it's basically the way Lily Allen writes is very like, I don't know. It's very like matter of fact. Okay. And it all rhymes. So it's like, I'm walking down the street in my bicycle and then in a, in a bicycle. And like, do you know what I mean? I'm like, do you know what I mean? But it like all like makes sense. It's like, yeah, I want to go to dinner and then I finished her. Like, I don't really know. Like, you know, it's, but she does it right. Like, yeah, it's very like blunt and like London and like cheeky. Yeah. And she does. She does that on this album, but it's about divorce and it's like super fucking graphic. Like she like starts the song and she's like, I got a call. I woke up and they offer me a thing on West End. I was so excited. And then you came home for dinner and I told you and you laughed at me and said, no, I had to audition. And then I went and then the song stops to, it's a four minute song. It stops two minutes in, two and a half minutes in. And you just hear doom, like the answer of a FaceTime. And it's just her. You don't hear the other person. And it's like, I miss you. How are you? Oh, oh. Like he divorced her on FaceTime or like said that he needed space. And then the, yes. And the rest of the album, the next song is called, I think ruminating. And it basically just ruminates on the beat like over and over again. And it's about how she knows that he's seeing this other girl and she can't stop thinking about this other girl and she's ruminating on it. And it's like, then she goes home and they get together and she, he hits shows an Instagram post on his phone and she like, he whisks the phone away after. So then she goes through his text and find someone named Madeline. The next song is called Madeline. That yes, like it's, it's a really good album. It's like objectively a good album. And like, and then she starts talking about, she finds his butt plugs and all his sex toys and like, yes. And then she talks about how hard it is to date. Like it's this, oh my God, like divorced mothers are going to gag, die and throw up over this song. Like it's basically like she says in the song, she's like, I'm 40 years old. I have two teenage kids. Like, does that interest you? Like, it's so hard for me to date. Like, how am I supposed to date? How am I supposed to find love again? And it's like a really, really vulnerable moving out. But I thought it was fantastic. Like I listened to it all day today. It was so amazing. There's a part of the album where she tries to just like appease her ex-husband and like just change who she is. And it's, she, there's a song called relapse where she talks about like how she wants to relapse on Valium and drinking. And like, I think maybe insinuates that she does. I don't really know. It's apparently it was made in 10 days. It's, it's. it felt like you're like watching a movie, but it's an album. Wow. It's really good. It's like really good. Me and Louise listened to it all day today. We were like super gagged. Okay. Yeah. It's great. It's great. And by the time this episode is out, if you haven't heard it, it is out now. This is not promo, like paid promo. West End Girl by Lily Allen. People are calling it the melodrama for divorced 40-year-olds. It is seriously amazing. And by the way, I'm not divorced or 40, and I felt like I was both. Are people actually calling it that? Yes. I read that in Paper Magazine. And it's so good. Like I can't emphasize enough how much, how good it is. It is so back to Lily Allen's roots. Okay. Something else I've been listening to, in case you were wondering. Actually, wait. We haven't talked about Showgirl. I was about to bring it up. Well, we have to talk about Showgirl. Yeah. Like Father Figure is one of my favorite songs she's ever written. Father Figure is like so poetic and incredible. It's amazing. It's amazing. So if you can't tell, Brett and I really love the album. It's all I've been listening to. It's all, like I came downstairs and Brett was listening to Opalite. I listen to Fate of Ophelia every single morning on my way to, I listen to, I actually have an order that I go through. It's amazing. I love the album. Yeah. What is your top three on Life of a Showgirl right now? Okay. Right now, I mean, the Fate of Ophelia, I don't care, number one. Oh. Like. Banger alert. It is so fucking good. Two, Father Figure. And three, right now, is probably. Three, Elizabeth Taylor. Same. That's actually my three, too. Okay. Perfect. Elizabeth Taylor. That beat drop. Yeah. Elizabeth Taylor. Tell me for real. Do you think it's forever? I'm number one, but I never had to. Pause. What do you think she means by that line? Because there's been an internet discourse about this. I have my thoughts. Wait. Been number one, but I never had to. I think she's saying, obviously she's saying I've been number one, but people are like, what does she mean by that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And I think it means that she's never had a partner that she genuinely can share in her success with. Yeah. Do you agree? Fuck. Do you agree? But other people are saying been number one, but I never had to. No, I think that's like saying, you know that thing in English class where people are like, the wall is blue. And then they're like, what does that mean? Like a double entendre? I think she's like literally just being like, talking her shit. The number one, but I've never been number two because she hasn't. Oh, so you think that? I think it's like quite literal. Okay. That's valid. I think it's quite literal. I think the one that is not literal is like Father Figure. I think that one deserves some like deep diving into. Yeah, definitely. I think Elizabeth Taylor is like, she's like pretending she's like this like old Hollywood. I think the entire album has these like. These mafioso themes. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think they, it does. Like, it has this theme of being like this, like, like mob boss of a pop star. Yeah. And it's like, she's like basking in her success. It's really cool. It is really cool. And the Fate of Ophelia music video is awesome. Oh, dare I say one of her best music videos of all time. Agreed. Agreed. In terms of other stuff I am listening to, as you can see in my shirt, I feel like I always. I always. I always. I always. I always. I always. I always. I always. I always. I think I'm going to make this a thing. And I am a sucker for when I like an album, I will buy that merch. Yeah. And I have been listening to a lot of Bon Iver lately. You really have. I don't know if they are for you. I don't think they are. But they are for me. And their album, Sable Fable, is genuinely probably my album of the year. Besides like Showgirl and Lorde. And this is like probably the album that means the most to me. Wow. It's like very beautiful. So the first half is Sable. And it's very like depressing and dark and moody. And then the last song on Sable is called Award Season. And it's like, do you want me to read you some of the lyrics? Yeah, I do. Oh, but maybe things can change. What can wax can wane. Things can get replayed. And if it's all the same, oh, just take my hand and place it on your blame. And let it wash away. With you I will remain. Wow. So like, let me take your hand. Place your blame into my hand, right? Right. And now a big wave crashes over us. Okay. Gone is all, everything washes away. Okay. All your blame, all your troubles, everything. I'm still here. Yeah. Oh, that's powerful. So that's how that ends. And then the next song on the Fable side of the album is called Short Story, which is honestly probably my song of the year. Really? Yeah. It's. It's unbelievable. And so, so it's, oh, like, so basically it's like plays is like, he's coming out of this like melancholy, dark, depressive state. And it's like, like very high keys on the piano. And he says, oh, the vibrant sun in my eyes. Like he's like coming out and like seeing the sun. And then he says, um, um, that January ain't the whole world. Once he says that the entire beat of the song changed and the album changed and it becomes like upbeat gospel. Music says, and falling's really overshown and you're never really, really on your own. And then like the next part of the album is very hopeful. That's really cool. So I've been listening. Would I like any of the songs or any of them like exile? You would like day one. Okay. Day one is like objectively like a pretty, it's a pop song. Like it's a pop song. I think it's with like Dijon. Like it's, it's really good. Okay. It's really, really, really good. Okay. Like I think you would, I think you would like it a lot. And, um, yeah. So. I'm really happy for you that you're having this, you know, moment with Bon Iver. Thanks. And like, it's not lost on me that I think it's cool to listen to Bon Iver. So I'm telling everybody I can that I'm listening to Bon Iver. For sure. Like I understand that, you know, at dinner last night, they were like name and a song you've been listening to. I'm like name Jake. And I've just been really crushing this Bon Iver album this year. And you know, like you sounded sick. And I've no, but like everyone, like Will said, like someone that I've never heard of. And someone was like, and then for me, I sat in crickets, fucking crickets. I was like, none of you guys listen. Thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring tonight's episode. As you guys know, I love live music. I love live events more than anything. I recently saw Renee Rapp's Bite Me tour. It was incredible. I also saw Tate's Miss Possessive world tour. This is my public plea for Bon Iver to go on tour. So I can use my, code THERAPUS to get 10% off SeatGeek tickets. SeatGeek is the best site to buy tickets on. When you download the app, you can put in your location and it shows you popular events in your area, whether that be sports, comedy, music. 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I really do think live music is one of the only things that like brings us together as a community. It's something I always say it, we missed it during COVID and it is back now. And I just think we shouldn't take it for granted. And SeatGeek really makes it more accessible for everyone to go. And so thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring tonight's episode. Use code THERAPUS for 10% off your order. Well, it's my birthday. Yeah. Do you want to? Do you want to talk about like reminiscing on this past year? I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I think a highlight for me this year was, um, I started eating pre-made meals from Organic Orin. That part. And I feel very inspired in the gym right now because of both the mix of like consistently going to the gym and eating Organic Orin. And I feel very good in my body right now. I don't feel great, like perfect yet, but I feel better than I have in, um, past years. Um, and I feel very good in my body right now. Um, and I think that's definitely been a highlight for me. I love that. Um, it really is a game changer when you're feeling good. Yeah, it really is. Working out. I think I've realized that working out is like really like important to like how my mental health. It really is. Like yesterday it didn't work out and I had Brett the worst day ever. Yeah. Like I, my diary entries are just diabolical. Oh, I started journaling. I was about to, you started journaling? Yes. And it really, really. It really helps me like connect thoughts that I didn't know I had. I'm inspired to start. So basically, you know how I always get insecure when two really hot gay guys start hooking up? Yeah. So I started writing about it and then I realized it's because it feels like this pretty person club and it's like this very exclusive club that I can't be a part of. So it feels like a club I can't get in. And I feel like that's such a theme in my life of like trying to get into circles and clubs so desperately. And like this pretty person, tall club. That's why I'm like, I hate how short I am. I hate how I look because I can't get into this club. And that's what I discovered via journaling. Wow. That's deep. Yeah. I was talking to this guy from Germany on Raya and he was like, yeah, no, journaling really like helps you figure out your shit. and so i started doing it well i was already i was already doing it but then like i really got into it after he said that okay wow i was gonna ask like who told you to start journaling um i think i realized i lost my journal and then i was like shit i should probably start right yeah like every all these like all the best creatives write stuff down i was like i should start journaling yeah well i love that thank you so much i think that writing for myself like i miss writing you know what i mean no well no because i am writing okay you're right but like me as like that's how i felt before i was writing as a journalism as a former journalism major and like english like girly like i loved an essay like i haven't written something in so long i think i should start start journaling okay maybe i will it's just hard it cramps your hand yeah Ichigo yeah and my handwriting is so fucking bad so is mine so is mine it's so bad so is mine i can't even write a birthday card for max without it getting why don't you get a journal that like prompts you shit okay like i have a gratitude journal that i haven't opened if you want it maybe yeah that might be good for me yeah no i've been really enjoying journaling when i like can sit down and do it it's mostly because it's really nice to read back on because there are certain details in your day that you forget yeah uh like just like shit that like happened in my day that i normally wouldn't remember yeah and you know what your future self will thank you it does like i literally used to read old diary entries and it's just like oh my god this shit was i thought this was so important like and it was so not important yeah yeah that january ain't the whole world dash bonnie ver period you want to see audrey hobert in december yeah i do i'm obsessed with her we're gonna go what is it december 4th yeah have you ever seen manny at a concert where she likes the artist no but i'm dying to and i know that manny loves audrey hobert no manny at carly ray jepson said said um she looked at me and goes are you good and i go yeah i'm good why she goes i need more space and i said okay and then she walked to the other side of the room and just the world was her dance floor i love that so audrey hobert's about to be lit let me tell you where is it i don't know where is it i don't know either i'm super excited for that i love every single song on her album yeah it's a one one of the best songs on her album debuts i've heard in a really really long time agreed i saw today on um twitter like that olivia rodrigo's third album was like maybe released but like it also or not really sorry in the works in the works just did an amex commercial and at the end of it i'm pretty sure she like played a few tunes really or a few like notes of a song um but it also could be ai and i could be stupid because i fall for a lot of that ai shit you guys brock goes oh my god i have the security of the louvre robbers and immediately i'm like didn't they like not have security cameras in that room i'm watching this video they're like smashing shit and i go brett that's ai i was like damn it wait so you heard music that was like allegedly no i didn't listen it was like a cover and i saw lyrics allegedly on twitter on twitter and it was like and you just scrolled past it was like photos of a vinyl lyrics kind of like how taylor's because we do not condone leaks up in here we do not we scroll we scroll always we scroll i heard a few notes of the fate of ophelia and i didn't know if it was real or not before it came out oh on tiktok right we couldn't want to talk all day yeah yeah that sucked wait so just this is just a really random thing but like i've been getting and i don't know if you do because like you say it a lot too but like people have been asking what it's tears means oh they have yeah and so i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god and so i feel like it could just be like a good informational thing for like you to tell the background and like kind of explain it because like you you and alice started saying it first it's tears basically alice and i are always miserable everywhere we go and i think we just like it's like a thing like we are consistently miserable like we cannot be happy yeah unless we are home yeah and um i think we were just like we just started saying shit like we used to say this is boof like this is boof like this shit is it's boof this is boof and then like we just kind of replaced that with tears so we were like oh this is tears that's tears this is tears your tears were tears yeah so like someone wasn't responding to me today so i was i like you know it's like your tears you're being tears yeah tears when brett bonked her marathon it's tears it's tears like definite like yesterday was tears for me like like like what i overdid it with the tears it's tears it's tears like did you though really brett like i think i've had enough okay would you like to like enlighten everyone on what we did this week i've had five times in one week i don't know what happened oh basically brett basically what happened was brett got sick after her marathon that was a week ago today i'm gonna throw up right we've had it five times we've had it five times five times i was coming back from acting class i was coming back from acting class and i was like i feel really good about myself i feel really proud of myself i just did a scene that i didn't think i could do i'm gonna get fun like i want it i crave it i'm gonna get it and i eat it while watching real housewives of salt lake city which has just been nothing short of incredible and i overdid it fifth time was enough yeah i liked mine last night and i didn't feel like i overdid it but i definitely need to pause just because it's been too much oh i think it's alice you're on you're on therapist and we were talking about its tears and like and out brett was like you have to call alice because like she's the one that like really started that so like how would you describe its tears okay so you were actually the one that said it but you said it like not without any like context and then i just took it and ran with it like it's tears i feel like me and just like oh it's bad like i'm it's we're not or like this is just like it's tears should i do rose thorn and bud of my year yeah okay rose was finishing my tour doing radio city that was amazing was there a moment of like pure darkness for you yeah did i have a bad month i did i know i did or just like a bad situation oh and i got to a really really really big fight that was a really hard time for me with my thorn that was just horrible like i and i like i don't think i knew how bad that was it was so bad and so horrible and like it was just tears tears that was tears i felt super like i just felt super like i felt a lot of like resentment at myself and then at the situation and just thought with my thorn i think my bud is i'm excited for i it's like very bittersweet that therapist season two is ending this is the so i'm not going to pronounce this right the tumultuous episode penultimate penultimate episode and um i'm excited to like explore other things in that break that i have yeah that's my bud for the next year i'm excited for that for you you've been working really a lot on this season this season's been crazy it's been so long and so it's been long it's been almost a year of it it's really crazy and you should be impressed oh thank you do you have a favorite episode of the last season i mean like there were so many lord was insane lord was insane lord was that was like i think a moment where we all looked around we're like what the fuck is happening yeah yeah and just like she pulled up alone it was awesome she pulled up in an uber alone like iconic i'll just say that she pulled up in an uber alone she pulled up in an uber never forget it yeah so yeah i was like oh my god yeah um and then obviously selena selena was awesome and like coming in here and hugging carrie washington i was like wow yeah i regret not getting a selfie with her i forgot oh it's okay you were in the moment i was really in the moment i gave her a big hug and she hugged me back and it was great rose of the year go-to girls the fucking go-to girls changed my life yep changed my life my systems are still in place me too me too it's it's the best thing we ever did okay what are you therapist about today sorry i'm a little stuffed up i'm therapist that i got a post-marathon cold which is normal last week i was very like smart i slept a lot whatever got better for the weekend but then i obviously did it to myself i went out for max's birthday i got so fucked up i was very hungover and now i'm back to being a little sniffly i think i'm finally at the tail end of it but like being sick is the worst and like it's yeah it's just lingering and like it's very annoying yeah so that's what i'm therapist about i'm therapist about it's very valid by the way i'm therapist about i think i have i know i feel like i'm beating a dead horse here but i i fucking know i have a deviated septum and i need to get it fucking removed and checked out and the doctor i went to to tell me that i had a deviated septum like literally said i didn't have one but i literally have one i don't know how make that any more clear. And it's incredibly frustrating when he won't listen to me. me listen to me and tell me I have a deviated septum I've also been like pouring over my words recently so when I've been doing auditions for stuff like I've been like fudging my words almost like my brain is moving faster than my mouth and that's what I'm therapist about okay oh my god should we do the tell me what's wrongs yeah I'm Jojo hi Jojo and I went out with all my friends the other night we were on the tube okay and yeah on the way to bowling on one of the stops my boyfriend of four months gets on he was supposed to be out of the country for work he without saying hi suddenly got down on one knee on a very crowded moving train and proposed to me it was so overstimulating I got so claustrophobic that I started crying and got off on the next stop without any explanation he's a great guy but this is way too fast what do I do it sounds like he literally proposed because he got caught in a lie but he had a ring oh okay yeah you're right yeah I don't know that's like so I that is the weirdest four months is weird and if you're not there you aren't there and I think had you been there that train would have been romantic to you it would have been like oh my god this is the best thing ever and I think that claustrophobia you felt wasn't just physical it was mental too like I think you felt claustrophobic in your relationship yeah for sure and I think you should break up with him yeah if they aren't already and I prescribe champagne problems by Taylor Swift oh that's a good one I prescribe happiness by Taylor Swift I had a gut feeling to go through my boyfriend's phone and saw he's been searching reddit about quote getting bored of girlfriend with getting bored with girlfriend of two years rejected by gym crush Pilates literally just helped me because if I bring it up hey my fault for going through his phone anyways just break up with him and don't say you went through the phone but it sounds like she doesn't want to I know but this is what I preach and I know that it's tough love but it's like that's not your husband that's not your husband you think you're gonna catch your husband when you've only been together two years looking up I'm sick of my girlfriend like that's when you have to really like know your self-worth and it sucks so much but you don't you deserve better like you don't deserve a guy who's looking up on reddit what to do when he's bored of you and has is getting rejected by a gym yeah that means like he's actively trying to cheat right I think my roommate is obsessed with me while I was away for the weekend she broke my door handle and slept in my bed I also came home that weekend and found she folded my undies on my bed now she's trying to set me up with her twin brother and says that her quote ideal situation would be all of us living together she's even mentioned wanting wanting to have a twin someday and name one of them after me oh I would prescribe the roommate with Leighton Easter something's awry or single white female yeah that's not normal and that's really fucking weird oh my god I would be so freaked out yeah I mean broke the doorknob to sleep in her bed that's weird ew that's so weird I literally would get so mad at that I would be furious I think the universe is sending me signs but I can't act on them last night I had a dream that I reconnected with a guy I was involved with a while back but that guy is now dating a good friend in real life then the next day I find out that they have broken up I never really got over this guy and it feels like the universe is trying to tell me something help I am so conflicted am I delusional no I mean if your friend is wouldn't get mad at you I would say just reach out you never got over him reach out yeah I think maybe like give it a beat if they like just broke up oh for sure right and we prescribe is it over now by Taylor Swift because maybe it's not yeah so true but like I guess that song's about it being over you don't know though right um but yeah I mean if your friend doesn't care but like it also could just be like you know you saw his name somewhere and so that's why you like dreamt about him and like it's not that deep have you been having weird dreams lately I have yeah really weird dreams yeah I've been having weird dreams lately I have like really weird and they like have been making me upset yeah they've just been a little bit vivid which I normally don't have like right like it feels very real yeah yeah all of my friends 23 to 24 are so independent and know how to live on their own I feel like I rely on them so much and can't function on my own I don't want to mooch forever I just graduated and haven't been able to land a job yet please help what do I do in the meantime my advice is there is no meantime like like you know what I mean like if you like does that make sense there is no meantime in that like you need to grow up you kind of need to grow up I agree like and like that doesn't mean if you can't find a job like that totally valid like totally understandable especially right now the job getting financial help from your friends is different like that's a different sector I'm not talking about that what I'm talking about is like handling your own business and like growing up and taking accountability for your own life and you need to be comfortable being alone like it is like the number one most important thing to learn is to like enjoy your time alone and like relish in it and like I really implore you to do that me and my best guy friend kiss ruin the friendship in Taylor Swift terms now it's so awkward we haven't talked in person in three weeks because he he just keeps avoiding me even though we have two classes together and live in the same dorm building I need advice I feel like in a weird way I feel like that means that like he likes you and he doesn't know where to go from here because he doesn't know if you feel the same what do you think no I don't think he likes her okay right he's like avoiding her you wouldn't be avoiding her if he you were so sweet I'm just I'm just like trying to think about the but I guess in college people kind of get over being awkward right I mean I just don't understand like if I kiss someone and like I knew they liked me and I liked them I wouldn't want to avoid them I'd want to be like let's hang out that went okay yeah so advice to this girl is just like be normal and then like move on with with him I think no I think send him a text and be like so what's up but be prepared for receiving bad news yeah okay yeah I'm aligned with that I was no joke going home with this guy from the bar and when we started hooking up I noticed he took off a ring I didn't even notice it when we were out and now I'm wondering if I should find his potential spouse and tell them or alternatively do I just stay out of it stay out of it stay out of it wait did they continue yeah I was about to say did do you continue hooking up or it sounds yes that's is what this sounds like okay well well you know what stay out of it stay out of it I'm so sorry to whoever his spouse is but like it's just not worth it it's not worth it yeah I'm turning 30 in December and I really want to have a fun birthday party I've never been a big birthday girly but I really want to do that most of my friends live out of town I'm in New York and I feel like no one will want to travel and pay for a hotel in the city around Christmas time that makes sense what should I do to celebrate and how can I get my friends there well what if you just celebrate in a different place that's cheaper with all your friends yeah or you like really like all cuddle up in your apartment I don't know you don't know I feel like or or like since Christmas it's like the most expensive time to travel like do something with your New York friends and then like have your other friends come visit in a time that's more like financially feasible yeah you know and you love that you could do a 30th birthday celebration like Elle her birthday's in May um but like it's always like kind of still like gloomy and like you never know what the weather's gonna be in May and our pool wouldn't be open yet when we were growing up but Hannah and I had August birthday so we were always able to have pool parties so Elle would like have a pool party like two months after her birthday as like her birthday party like two months late so that she could have a pool party be like Elle Chody so be like Elle and just celebrate late yeah just celebrate late if that's when the hotels are cheaper I'm therapist because at the ripe age of 26 I learned that I have a secret half-brother that my mom has been hiding from me and my sister what makes matters worse is that we know him sorry it was in all caps and he was slyly introduced as a quote family friend turns out years of Christmas presents and family get-togethers were how my mom stays connected to her one and only son they kept it from us for so long because he's the product of an affair my mom had 20 or so years ago before we were born how do I move on from this betrayal and do I try to have a relationship with this quote brother of mine help holy shit I don't know I don't know either like holy I don't know I feel I part I I feel bad for the mom there is a certain point at an age when you realize that parents are just grown-up adults or grown-up children and it's the worst feeling ever and I think that just happened to you and I'm so sorry and every it it happens to everyone and i think you have to give your mom a little bit of grace i i really do like what yeah you don't know really you don't know i mean but you can like i think two things can be true at once there can be betrayal and then she can still be your mom and like also yeah why not i mean i don't know if you already knew know the guy like you don't need to be like well i guess we're brother and sister like you know what i mean like yeah just you know i don't know i don't know i don't know i actively don't know me down therapy yeah therapy i need help reacting to something this guy i've been hooking up with cons is constantly picking stuff up around my apartment and cleaning surfaces etc what's the problem like the only time he isn't is when we're having sex lmao i appreciate the sentiment but i think it's more that he's like he's grossed out by his surroundings like is this an ick am i overthinking it what does this mean i think it's normal to be in a relationship with someone who's opposite to you in terms of like cleanliness and stuff and i actually think that's kind of charming yeah but if he like can't stop cleaning like maybe have him over when like everything is spotless and like see what he's does oh good advice and then if he's like still cleaning then it's like weird i think well maybe yeah or maybe he's just like an anxious cleaner maybe he's anxious around you you don't think i mean i just think it's weird to like clean like all the time like if he's literally cleaning all the time except when they're having sex like that's strange that's weird my grandfather died in may and my family just inherited his big ass farm like 160 acres of land my dad and my uncle are splitting the farm 50 50 we are learning a lot of crazy shit about my family and one of the craziest things is that my uncle has been trying to start some sort of cult on his portion of the farm my family is really confused and doesn't know what to do i love a cult wait i know but like you can't let your uncle start a cult yeah you can't oh my god no no it'd be such a sick documentary though like the one half of the farm fights the cult and the other oh my god what no you can't let him start a cult like you have to have an intervention yeah i think your dad should get involved or something start a cult under my watch yeah like maybe like watch a few cult documentaries to learn how to handle it so i describe that yes like um nexium and um the jim jones one with the jim jones one the island in or no it wasn't an island um it was like this plot of land in south america and um he convinced all of his followers to move there and you know the saying don't drink the kool-aid that's from that yeah because he gave everyone kool-aid with cyanide oh that was the suicide yeah the mass suicide oh wow that's where don't drink the kool-aid comes from yeah it's not interesting or like drink the you know what i wonder what phrase like from our generation will have an lasting effect like that same like it's yours maybe like um yolo yolo for sure um i'm trying to think of like a phrase i don't know i don't know well brad what did we learn today i learned so much about lily allen and bonnie bear and i think that that was really awesome and last episode you taught me a lot about carly ray uh and i was wearing a carly ray shirt and now i'm wearing a bonnie bear shirt yeah and it's my birthday episode yeah um so that's that's what i'm wearing today and i'm wearing a bonnie bear shirt and i'm wearing a bonnie bear shirt and it's my birthday episode yeah um so that's that's what i'm wearing i learned i think and um i really liked picking out our songs for like if oh i learned a lot about the louvre uh robbery yeah that was so fun yeah that was really fun um okay well she wasn't going p what's she what's she bringing oh happy birthday to you happy birthday okay i'm making a wish i love did you pick it out oh i love you b thank you okay making a wish yay yay i love you guys love you jake um that was such a fun oh yeah i really oh okay that was just last october that was last october um okay well i guess this is the penultimate what penultimate penultimate episode next week is the season finale it's a really good one i'm really excited for you it's really good i filmed it yesterday oh my god and i guess this is the this is the final episode of wow how are you feeling of the of the season i feel good i feel ready to explore other things for a little bit i'm excited for you and i'm proud of you yeah yeah yeah and i'm excited and i'm proud of myself you should be i love you i love you happy birthday bye pussies coca-cola coca-cola for the big for the small the short and the tall peacemakers risk takers for the optimists pessimists for long distance love for introverts and extroverts the thinkers and the doers for old friends and new coca-cola for everyone pick up some coca-cola at a store near you