Session 103: Banks

(upbeat music) Surprise Pussies! Today we have on one of my favorite artists, Banks, she has made some of my favorite songs of all time, including "Crowded Places," which is using the penultimate episode of "Girls." It is one of my favorite needle drops of all time. And I get to talk to her about that. And she is so lovely. So I'm so excited she got to be on what you are seeing behind me is decorations. For next week's episode, it is my birthday week soon. But if you guys don't know Banks, I'm excited for you guys to get to know her more. She has, she's so talented and has really just such a vast incredible discography. She's awesome and I'm really glad she was able to come on the show. And yeah, the season is about to end. Next week is the penultimate episode of "Thera Puss." After this, we have two episodes left of the season. And then we're done for this season. So yeah, I just wanted to say thank you guys for everything, literally everything. Like you have changed my life. I thought season one was insane. And this season was just even like out of a dream I could never even imagine. I'll give you a more sappy feel during the season finale, where I will get emotional about the end of this season. But just know that in the seasons, in the next season, we're gonna be bigger and better and I'm really, really excited. To submit, tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpuss.com and click tell me what's wrong, leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Love you, Pussies. Hi Pussies, welcome back to "Thera Puss." Today we have on a dear friend and incredibly talented singer, Banks. - Hello. - The last time I saw you, we got dinner. - Yeah, we did. - And you've been doing so much since I last saw you. - Yeah, I have released, I think, yeah, released an album. - "Torred." - How was? - Yeah, so great, yeah. Did my American tour and then, "Torred opened for Lana." - How was Lana? - So good. She's just the best. - Did you guys like hang out and stuff? - Yeah, she's the sweetest, coolest, most talented. - Did you know, in her for a while? - No, that was the first time I met her. - And she just reached out and-- - Yeah, she's just, I mean, yeah, it just happened. It was very kind of last minute within a few weeks and we were just like, let's do it. - That's so fun. - Yeah, it was awesome. - Oh my God, I fucking, were you able to see the show? You obviously saw the show after. - Yeah, of course, yeah, it was amazing. She's got the most gorgeous set and like, it looked like a movie. - Is she still on tour now? How many dates do you do for her? - I think she, I did three. I did Glasgow, Dublin and Liverpool. - I was just saying, I want to see Ado. Your time here, you live in Seattle. - Yeah. - I love it there. - I did two. - Yeah. - It's great. - Were you born there? - I grew up in LA. - Right, right, right. - Yeah, yeah, I moved there like two years ago. - And what you moved there for? - My fiancee's from there. - And I just needed, yeah, I just wanted a little bit of a change. I grew up here and lived here my whole life in LA. And then I was gonna move to London and then my career kind of took off and I started touring and so I was kind of like craving a really familiar place in between tours. And yeah, so I'd never ended up moving but then decided to, you know, I think Seattle is great. It's like very calming. It's like my life is so crazy. It's nice to have a home base that's like outside of the entertainment business and just very chill. - Yeah, people there are so lovely too. When we went for my show, it was like the best crowd. We got really good food in Seattle, we went fishing. - Nice. - Yeah, do you guys ever go fishing? - No, but I actually drew, my fiance just got me fly, no, fly fishing. Is that where you need like the, yeah, I think fly fishing. You got me gear, he wants to take me so. - What is fly fishing? - I think it's like where you fish, but you like stand in the water with the, what are they called? Do you know what I'm talking about? - Kind of. - Does your fiance fish? - I mean, he has, he's not like a fisherman. - Right, but that's a Seattle thing. - Yeah, I mean, it's like surrounded by water. - Right. - You know, people are on boats all the time. They're fishing all the time. They're hiking all the time. Lots of nature. - Do you like hiking? - Yeah, I love it. - Love it, do you? - No, I hate hiking. - You do. - Yeah, I think it's so boring. - Yeah. - I can't get involved and then I'm like sweaty and it's hot out. - Yeah, okay, well, you like doing yoga and stuff, right? - Yeah, enough. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay, cool. - Yeah. - Cool. - So, when, you know what's wrong with yours? I was listening to the other day for my favorite crowd of places. - Yeah. - I love that song. - Thank you. - Did Lena reach out to you directly to use that in girls or? - Yeah, she did. And it was like, I'm, girls is like all time favorite. - Yeah, same. - You know, it's just so iconic and the show is just, I could, it never gets old. - Yeah, it is. - So it was such an honor to have a song in the finale of the entire show. So, yeah, it was unreal. Yeah. - That's such a good song. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. - I love that song. How's the wedding planning coming along? - It's good. Wedding planning's good. It's very chill. It's a very small wedding. - What does he do again? - He's a lacrosse player. - Right, right. - Well, he actually retired. He got a lot of concussions and he had to. - Okay, yeah. - Put up the players happen now. He coaches the Maryland team. - Oh, that's awesome. - We got around to planning it. But yeah, it's, it's pretty much just gonna be a big fun party. - I'm so, it's so excited for you. Where are you gonna do it? - It's in Seattle. - The best. Obviously. (laughing) How'd you guys meet again? - This is actually a crazy story. Well, I don't know if this part's crazy, but then when I actually hung out with him for the first time, it's kind of crazy. But he slid my DMs. He was like, how long are you in Seattle for? And I was like, just in and out, you know, just on tour. And then he was like, oh, Bummer, like I wanted to take you for a drink. And I was like, what, like that was the most forward, most confident. - Right. - I mean, especially 'cause I just feel like guys are generally intimidated by, you know, a successful woman. - Yeah. - So I was very intrigued by that. Yeah, you can come backstage and say hi after the show. But yeah, unfortunately, just in and out. - Was he going to the show? - Yeah, he was going to the show. - Oh, okay, cool. - So he came to the show. And then that night, I forgot where I was playing, but I told my band, I was like, you guys just really hot rugby players coming tomorrow. And they're like, oh, sick. And then when they met him, they're like, he doesn't play rugby, you're an idiot. And I was like, what? I thought he played rugby, yeah, no. But yeah, he was a sweetheart. And then we just like kind of kept in touch. And then I went on tour in Europe. And then that, you know, kept in touch, but it's hard when you're touring. And then COVID happened. And so we like kind of got, you know, to know each other really well over COVID. And then finally, when he could come visit me, I had just gotten my COVID shot. And so he picked me up from when I got the shot. And I was like, I don't want to drive. I feel sick. - Right. - You drive? We were driving. He saw a salt straw, whatever. He was like, I want ice cream. And I was like, let's stop for ice cream. Cool. So parked in the parking lot, he was driving. I thought he had the keys. It's my car. He thought I had the keys. - Right. - We go and get ice cream. We're like, he's like, at there's actually a video of him on his Instagram, like eating ice cream. And I'm like, it's from this night. And I was like, is it good? And he's like, oh, it's so good. And then two minutes later, we get to the car. And he's like, your car's not here. - Why? - So we call the cops. We have to call my mom to come. She meets my mom like on this first date, essentially. I had an Audi. And they, I guess, have like trackers in them. Yeah, so car stolen, got home. Crazy night, whatever. Next morning, get a call from the police station. They're like, we found your car. Great, where is it? They're like, well, it was in a high-speed chase. - What? - A girl stole it. We had to throw down those spike strip things that like pop all your tires. It was a high-speed chase. It's in the junk yard or whatever. Like, here's where you can go get it. But we got your car. We call an Uber because I don't have a car. Get in the Uber. On the way to the junk yard to pick my car up, car breaks down on the freeway. The Uber does. So we're on the freeway. So we see these cops driving by. We're like flagging him down like the cops pull over. We're in this Uber. The car broke down. Can you help us? My car got stolen. We're going to pick up my car that they found. So we get in the cop car. This isn't this insane. - Yeah. - He drives us off the freeway. We can't just like drive you to your destination. - Yeah. - We're like, in the back of the cop car with metal wherever up. And we were just, what is happening? So they drop us off right off the freeway. We have to call another Uber. Finally, get to the junk yard. We finally, like, go to my car. All the tires are popped and we open it. And there's an open, large jar of Nutella in the, in the, - That's your seat, driver's seat. - Yeah, like in like the cop. - Cop holder. Yeah. - And all this like matching really cute like blue suitcases. - Oh. - Who is this? - A tackled. She was like stealing a car like spooning Nutella in her mouth. - I know. She stole your car, but she sounds awesome. - I know. So we have to call a tow truck to tow us. We get in like the car with the tow truck driver, man. We're like sitting with him in the front while like my broken car is like behind us. We have to go to this, get all the new tires and we end up going throwing out all this girls luggage and blah, it was the wildest few days. and that was like essentially our first date. - Honestly, that is the craziest first date story I've ever heard. - Yeah, kind of like a week, like it's kind of sweet. - No, it's the best. - Yeah, now you're engaged. - Now we're engaged. - How did he propose? - He took me to a cherry blossom. - A bunch of cherry blossoms everywhere and it was really cute, yeah. - Is Seattle have cherry blossoms? - Yeah, so beautiful. - How did I know that? - Yeah. - I guess I don't know anything because you don't really, except for the fact that I went fishing once I had a good crowd. - And you had a good crowd, yeah. So, yeah, it was really cute, he's a really good person. - I'm so happy for you, that's amazing. - How's dating for you? I remember at dinner, I remember and you were also talking about wanting to be a pop star and how you've not had a boyfriend. - And so, I was like, we need to write a song about this. - I know, I know. - Yeah. - And then, I think I saw you during my major weed era. I was talking about smoking all the time then. - Not sure. - That entire time period of my life is a haze. - Tight. - Like, I don't know what happened. I don't know when we got, when did we get dinner? How long ago was that? - It was before my album came out. - Like two years ago? - No, it was like a year ago maybe. - That doesn't feel right. I think it was a year and a half ago or two years ago. - Something like that. - Isn't that crazy? - Yeah. - And we went to Pacha. I think that was the first time I'd ever been there. - Really? - Yeah, so good. - You're so cute. - No, it was so fun. But yeah, I wanted to-- - Wait, how are their updates? - With the boyfriend stuff? - Yeah. - No updates? - I think I'm not ready for a relationship. - Okay. - I don't know when I will be, but-- - But we aren't yet, and that's okay. - Well, I just think it would be too selfish of me to say that I am is what I've learned because I cannot, I don't think I can give myself to someone like that. - Okay, well, it's good to know that. - Right, I don't think I can. Or maybe I just haven't found the right person. - Yeah. - But like I'm so, I'm doing shit all the time, I'm always talking, or I haven't been home 'cause of tour. - Yeah, how's tour? - It was cool. Do you have a boss when you tour? - Yeah. - Yeah, I loved, I loved meeting people. - Yeah. - I was my favorite part of the whole tour was meeting everyone, because they can tell when I am not feeling too good. And I don't know, sometimes I was just like, it was hard like living out of a suitcase. I don't like living out of a suitcase, see you. - Well, when I first started touring, I was like, how do people do this? It's so overwhelming. And like, I'm such a creature of routine, and so I thought very, it's just, yeah, it's a lot. It's exhausting, it's so hard on your body. - It's so hard on your body, my body was like tired. - Yeah, and it, yeah, it's like a different type of fatigue too. It's not just like, it's a different type of fatigue. - Because you had to give 110%. - Yeah, and it's just, you don't really, I mean, I don't know if you were just touring in the U.S., - Yeah, I was just doing the U.S. - Yeah, but when you're touring all over the place, like you don't have a time zone, and it's just the schedule is gnarly, and yeah, it's like the adrenaline is up and down. It fucks your adrenal glands, adrenales up and all that, so it's a lot, but I think once you get used to it, now I mean, I've been doing it for so long that I've got, you know, like a nice flow to it, and I have a, you know, it takes a while to get the right team around you. That's really important to the right energies around you. And so, yeah, now I love it, and it feels kind of like adult summer camp, but I totally get, you like it. - I love it. - Do you tour? - Yeah, yeah. - How long have you been touring for? - I think my first tour was in 2014, or 2013, so opening for the weekend. - Oh, wow, what was that like? - Amazing, yeah. - Would it stress you out to be at the venue before? - Oh, yeah. - It used to a lot, very much so. Like I used to just feel anxious and needed not to be there during the day, yeah. - I got it. - I mean, sound check, of course, but yeah, I liked to, and then I got kind of too comfortable doing that, and then I would show up like right before my show, and then my team was like, you can't do that. Like you have to like fucking be professional and like warm up and shit. - Right. - But I, this is really bad. You need to warm up your vocals, et cetera. - Yeah. - That's what you should be doing. But sometimes I just use the first few songs to warm up, but it works for me. - Right. - Like some, but don't, any singing coach watching this is gonna kill me. - But yeah. - I don't usually start my sets with like the big belters. - Right. - It's usually like the kind of low growls and then it like builds and so on. Anyways, yeah. - We also have like anxiety. So like the, later you can be there the better. - Yeah, exactly, yeah. - The eye became that way towards the end. I used to spend the entire day at the venue, and then I was like, I think I just want to sleep in my room, 'cause I can't sleep at the venue, 'cause there's so many moving parts. - Yeah, totally. It's definitely, and also it's just, you don't know what, it depends what venue you're playing, but some of the backstage is or not. - Right. - Like where you'd want to be hanging out and some are. So yeah, it really depends, but yeah, it's the more of a routine you can establish on the road, and the better, you know. The people around you really matter. - Right. - That's everything. - How many people do you tour with? - Matt, my tour manager, Louise, my manager, Mani, Meg, and then the merch guy, Dan. - Oh, okay, so it's like a small crew. - A small crew, and we're all missing us. - Yeah, cool, that's, yeah. - I've never toured with that small crew. - Oh, no, that's cool, 'cause I don't have a band. - No, of course, yeah, that must be, like, that's, it's some sleepover, yeah, we like have fun, we went fishing together, and then we, - Did you catch any fish? - I caught a huge one, a huge one. They all watched Hunger Games and Twilight. - Love that. - I just, I had to resort to my room at that point, but I love those movies, but sometimes when I was off stage, I was like, "I have to just go to bed." - Yeah. - Yeah. - Would you have a favorite venue you've ever played? - Playing Radio City in New York was pretty legendary for me, that just felt like a moment in my career. - And you? - Well, because, well, first I opened for the weekend there, and I was like, wow, if I could ever play here, it would be, you know, and then when I, you know, headline there, it was incredible. And then, favorite venue. I don't know, it really, for me, it's like, I mean, Roundhouse in London is so iconic. I've played there a few times, and I love that venue. It's really beautiful. It just depends, really. Depends if you're like in an intimate mood. Sometimes I, to promote this album, I did like a few acoustic shows, and they were pretty small, and just like beautiful, and connected, and so that was really fun, and then playing, you know, the big festival stages is amazing, so it kind of depends, just what, like, mood you're in. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You just released your latest album. - Yeah. - And are you like, how soon between albums do you start on the next one? Are you just like taking it off now? - It depends, when I need to write. I'm not like, I only write when I need to write. I'm not a machine that can just, you know, there's a lot of writers that are just like, give me concept, and let's go. - Right. - For me, it needs to come from, when I write, it's not like a mental thing. It just needs to like, it feels like I'm a medium almost, I don't even, I don't know what I'm writing about till it's happening, kind of, so. - How long have you been writing for, like, since you were a kid? - 15, so, yeah, a long time. It definitely started more of like a therapeutic thing. - Yeah, like just to get it out, and then it became. - Yeah, and then it just, it became, I was more writing like, stream of consciousness type stuff, and then it turned, and then I, you know, started playing with chords and putting some of my sentences to melodies, and it kind of just naturally happened, and then once I like, really discovered it, it was just, oh my god, just the best feeling. - Do you remember the moment you like, like, really felt like you had discovered it? - Yeah, I do. I was in the house that I grew up in. We had set my keyboard up, like, right outside my room in this little, like, hallway area. And I just, yeah, just, when I discovered it, those few months were like a blur. I just, that's all I wanted to do. And, yeah, I was like, I found my best friend or something. - Oh, that's so awesome. - Yeah. - And then what was the moment where you felt like, "Okay, I'm doing this, and now this is my career." - I mean, I went to school for psychology, so I didn't necessarily, but it's funny 'cause in the dorm, I went to USC, you went to USC too. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The dorm that I lived at had, like, a soundproof room with a piano in it. - What storm did you live in? - A crant. - I was in New North. - Okay. - Yeah. - That's like right next to it. - Yeah, right next to it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It still does, but it had a soundproof room with a grand piano in it, so it was insane. So, like, in between classes, if I had a break, in my schedule, I would just, like, go in there and write. And, yeah, eventually, my songs got into somebody's hands, that showed somebody else, and blah, blah, blah, blah, just happened. - And then, like, did you graduate at USC, though, right? - Yeah, but not before having some jobs, that were not very fun. - What were your two hubs? - Well, one fun job was working at Lilabo. - I like what that sounds awesome. - Yeah. - Yeah, eventually Zayn Lowe, and who was at this point working for Radio One in the UK, heard my music, and played a song called "Before I Ever Met You" on the radio, and that's kind of how everything started. And yeah, it was just, I had been writing for so long, on my own, so it's not like it happened out of nowhere, like I had been writing for like 10 years already, but being in front of people, I didn't even have any social media or anything at that point. - How was music shared back then on like my space and stuff, and Facebook? - SoundCloud. - SoundCloud. - Yeah. - Would you upload stuff to SoundCloud or no? - No, I met somebody who ended up being my first manager, but he like helped me put it on SoundCloud and stuff. And yeah, it was just, yeah, it was really cool, incredible. It's still surreal to me, just how much, you know, seeing people sing my lyrics, and how much, you know, it resonates with people, and in the airport on the way here, this girl was like, oh my God, thanks, I have a tattoo of you, and she had like, - That's so cool. - Yeah, tattoos, some lyrics and stuff. So yeah, it's really cool. - Oh my God, that's awesome. - Yeah. - On a separate note, what are you therapist about today? - Ooh, therapist. You go first. - What am I therapist about? My under eye bags are just not it today. - I think they're looking fabulous. - And I saw a photo of me the other day, and I was like, damn. And I think I want to get stuff injected below them. - Go for it. - I think I want to do it. But I've heard that maybe you can go blind if you do that. - Wow. - So I don't. - Somebody that I just worked with said that they got salmon sperm injected under their eyes. - I also just recently heard that from someone I see. - Yeah, maybe you should both go do that. - I know, well, did you see the photo of them after they got their salmon sperm injected? - No, they came to the studio right from when they did it. - And they didn't have like bumps all over their face? - No, they were like, oh my God, sorry, I just got salmon sperm in my face. And I was like, I don't know. I saw somebody would like bumps all over their face when they got it done. - Oh wow. - Yeah, it was pretty crazy. - Yeah, what does that do? Does anyone know? - I mean, the doctors do and the people who get, I'm sure it makes-- - Did they say it worked? - It probably fixes the problem you're therapist about. - My own dry bags, I need them, God. - Yeah. - And you have no, I do have anything you're therapist about or you-- - I mean, tomorrow I have a session and who I'm working with has to leave early and like, I wish you didn't. (laughing) - Everything's acceptable. - Yeah, that's acceptable. Okay, cool, that's what I'll be therapist about. - I'm also therapist because my show is ending that I'm watching. Have you ever seen Mr. Robot? - No, is it good? - Unbelievable. - Wait, do you know what I'm re-watching right now? - What? - That I actually, I'm saying re-watching, but I only ever saw, I think, one season of it, Vampire Diaries. - Oh, that's my roommate's favorite show in the entire world. - I'm on season two, like, the end of season two. - Oh, season three is my same. - It's so good. - Yeah, it's so good. It's Vampire Diaries is the best show ever. - Truly. - Yeah, was it on Netflix or HBO now? - HBO. - Right, used to be on Netflix. - But I've downloaded like all of them for the plane. - Yeah, oh. It's so good. - You have so much. - I know I feel so, I love finding new shows that. - And it's a long one too. And that seasons are like 20 episodes. My show's about to end, and I'm like depressed about it. - I'm sorry. - But I'm weirdly excited to see the end of it, but I don't know who I'm gonna be when it's done. Like, I'm so serious. Like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm like, kind of tweaking out about it. - Yeah. - Like, it's been my entire life. I was literally just watching it, right before this. - Okay, well. - I just had a season three. - So it's three seasons. - Yeah, what type of TV do you and your fiancee usually watch? Like thriller stuff? - No, I hate being scared. - Really? - Well, I have a bad habit where like, I'll see the synopsis or like a trailer of a horror film and I'm so intrigued at what happens. So I have to read the Wikipedia whole plot. - I got that I've done that before. - And I'm just like, I need to know what happens. - Yeah. - Does she die? - I need to find everything out. And then I'm like, few find out what happens. - Right. - I don't need to see it. - So I do that with scary movies. - What is your fiancee watch? Like what does he like to watch? - We just watched the gentleman. Actually, we watched that on the tour bus. - How was that? - We watched that. It was so good. Guy Richie directed it. - Yeah, it's about incredible, right? - Yeah, so good. - Is it a movie? - Yeah, it's a movie. - I'm not a movie guy these days. I don't know what's going on. - Yeah. - I need to get back into them. - Watch that movie. - I'll watch the gentleman. - It was good. - What else? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the problem with movies is it, if you're gonna actually take people's attention away from their puking phones, it needs to be really good. - Really good, yeah. - Yeah. - And it's hard to do. - The gentleman was good. We put our phones down. - I have a very hard time putting my phone away, but I have to put Mr. Robot. - But I just went to dinner with my manager and a few other people and they, he taught me a really good game, which is everyone put their phone in the middle of the table. - And whoever picks them up has to pay. - Has to pay. I've never done that. Nobody touched their phone. - We do that, but we never abide by it. - Really? - Like we'll pick it up and just pay what we have to. - And then does that person actually pay or not? - No, of course not. - Oh really? - And then we just all go back on our phones. - Oh well, that game is not for you that. - No, I know. - You have to respect the rules. - I know and we can't. Oh my god, I'm so addicted to my phone. I still am. I feel like I live my life on my phone. - Really? - My entire life. - Yeah. - Well, you're whole, you know, everything like kind of started. - I know. - Through TikTok. - Yeah, I'm definitely way more addicted to my phone than I used to be because of it. - Yeah. - Like way, way more. But. - Hmm. - Hmm. (laughs) Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrong? My favorite part. - Yeah, what? Okay, let's go. So people write in. - Yes, and then we just get them advice. - Okay. - I had a sex dream about my friend's dad and I haven't been able to make eye contact with her since and I need help and a lobotomy. - Interesting. So do we answer it? - I think I've had dreams like that, not about my friend's dad's, but like about people that I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe I just had a dream about them. And you kind of just have to swallow it. - You have to swallow it. - I'm not sure she should tell her friend that. - No. - Maybe that's the answer. Don't tell your friend, just keep moving on. You can never happen. - But like maybe there is some attraction there. - Probably. - Right? Like I feel like I've had dreams like that about people that I'm like, what? I'm so uncomfortable that I've just had this dream about this person, but I literally can't control it. - Yeah. Well, I think that girl should just not tell her friend, keep it moving, if it keeps happening, make a move. No, I'm kidding. - You were like, stop hanging out with a friend. But I guess it's not the friend's fault. - No, it's not the friend's fault. - My controlling acts once screamed at me at a festival in front of my friends. We recently broke up and now he's posting screenshots of my text on Instagram saying I was plotting on him, even though I was just asking friends for advice. - That's disgusting. Anybody who would do that is looks way worse than the person they're posting about. That's on him. - Do you think so? 'Cause I agree. - 100, are you crazy of course? - But like people online don't share that same sentiment. They're just like willing to jump on like a tirade. - Well, those people are insane. Those people are crazy. - Because that's a crazy thing to do. - You can't, first of all, people online like, you can't, this is something I'm still working on and I'm sure every single person in the public eye, but you cannot live your life by like, random people online that you don't know who they are. Obviously, but yes, I think that that's psychotic. - It's like so, there's no privacy anymore. - Yeah. Well, if you can't trust a person, like that person's obviously not a good person. - I feel like maybe we're coming around to the consensus that it is really uncool to do that. - Yeah, that's consensus. Did anyone ever think that was okay? Did I miss something? - Like people would post screenshots and then everyone would be like, ooh, they suck, they suck, they suck. - Oh, like a private conversation? - Yeah, always, right? Am I wrong? - Yeah. - Like people. - What? Did I, how did I not, like? - There was like no, in the younger generations, there was little to no privacy. - Yeah, I'm not, yeah. - Have you ever had something like that happen? You were someone's like, I'm gonna like screenshot our tax and urges-- - I'm sure. I can't really think of it right now, but probably. - Can you go to the cops for that? - I think that should be illegal. - You can't, right? Right, so you could just like have solace in the fact that he's a bad person. I don't really know. - Internet's crazy though. I've had people like come to my house 'cause they see something in one picture that's like next to a street that they know and then they find like of like something in someone's backyard that looks similar to the thing that was across it. Like you can't, it's very crazy. - It's the wild wild west. - Yeah. - My sister just decided she wants to apply early to UVA. Oh my God, love that for her. It's been my dream school since I was five. Oh, if she gets in, it lowers my chances. Is it bad that I kind of hope she doesn't? - No, that's not true. That's not true. - I think they're twins. I'm confused why would lower her chances? - It doesn't lower your chances if you have family that goes somewhere it makes your chances greater 'cause I think they like that. - I think, I think they're twins maybe. - Why? - Because that's the only way that this comic would make sense. Like, 'cause I used to think that. If other people in my grade were applying to USC, I'd be like, oh well, like that's gonna lower my chances. - But twins is different than just other people. - I think they're in the same grade. - Okay. - I think they-- - Read it one more time. It's been my dream school. dream school since I was five. She gets in at lowers my chances. Okay. So do you see what I mean? Like there are like twins? Okay. I think they're identical twins. Yes. And I think that this was like the only thing that she had always wanted to do separate from her. And then all of a sudden her identical twin wants to do the one thing that she thought was just for her. Right. If they are twins, I understand her frustration. I understand also. I'd be so mad. I'll be furious. I can control how you feel. Yeah. You know, just because you have those feelings, you can't like judge your own feelings. Just accept it. Maybe you don't tell her like I hope you don't get in. Maybe work through those feelings somehow, but it's okay. Yeah. That is good advice. My so-called best friend has drained my energy for over a year. My family thinks she's toxic, but my two other best friends are close with her and we're always together. Should I cut it off? I mean, if you know, you know, you know, you know, yeah. Like if you know, you fucking know. She's gonna have to be around this person through her other friends all the time. So maybe those other friends are also slightly toxic. Maybe you need to get some friends. Maybe you just need to just reset. We're like giving them, we're like lose all your friends. But like, she knows she's toxic. Wouldn't you say that the other people that also hang out? No, I don't know. Yeah, because it sounds like a toxic dynamic. Right. Like it feels like if you know someone's toxic and the other friends are like, no, she's not toxic, but you know, like you're not crazy and that you know they're toxic, then maybe those people are a little like enabling or whatever. Right. And like something about it is just giving like not it for her. And maybe she just take his break and like focus on creative endeavors that make her happy. Like that's what I think she should do. Yeah. She should go meet the identical twin who needs a friend to talk to about UVA. Yeah. An early decision. Yeah. I talked to an AI bot for fun, but eventually it started to feel like an actual conversation. And like low key I'm crushing. What do I do? Honestly, same. Are you serious? No, but my friend and I actually she's here. My best friend. She every time she goes through something, she's like, I'm going to ask my therapist AI. Oh, yeah. They call it. My friends call it chatterby. Yeah. So I think a lot. We so sorry. She says she's like having like legitimate like human feelings for this AI bot. Oh, human feelings for it. Like like feeling for the bot. Like loves it. I don't know, but like it gives me AI freaks me out. Yeah, terrifying. The only AI I like is when it summarizes your text on your phone. And it can be really funny sometimes. Have you ever seen that? No. In a group chat, if you miss like 20 texts, it'll be like Louise failed test needs to go shopping, colon upset. And like that's like that's like my favorite type of AI. Yeah, that's good. But everything else, I don't care if it bugs me out. I want to like it. No, I it's yeah, especially as like a creative like taking humans out of art. Right. The exact opposite of what art is. It actually makes me so bad. And like a lot of people who yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I don't know how far to go or like what to say in these types of things because I don't want to like say anything. Yeah, it's like you want to like in case there's ever. Oh, no, that's not actually. Oh, okay. No, yeah. Uh, in general, yeah, I think it's it's really I understand that people are like, no, you could use it to help your creativity and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like at a certain point, art is literally to express what you need to express. Right. That's what the best art is. It comes from I did like a necessity to get something out. That's like the antithesis of art is like having a robot just make something for you. Like so, I don't know. That's yeah, I agree. I agree. But yeah, if I would stop using the chat AI, this isn't really fun this game. It's fun, right? Let's keep going. I just got a gym membership and I have a workout plan. I'm super excited to start, but I've never had to go to a new gym alone and I'm scared. I went today and was too intimidated by the giant man because I know my form. I know my form isn't the best. Oh, my God. I feel that sometimes. I think everybody thinks that everyone at the gym is just like these experts of bodybuilders and good for those people that are, but go to the gym girl or guy or whoever, you know, just wrote that, but do you? I agree. I think you just need to put in your headphones and drown it out. Yeah. No, nobody really knows what they're doing on these machines. What? Nobody really knows what they're doing on these machines. They just kind of like figure out. They're like, oh, like they go this way. I'm going to push this way. Oh, they go this way. Also, like I feel like no one at everyone at the gym thinks everyone's looking at them and that is not true unless you are a gay man. That is not as to the truth. Do you feel like that? I went to E. Greenox and West Hollywood for the first and last time. I used to I I've just from growing up in L.A. I've lived like it's pretty much right. It's every different area. And I at one point lived in West Hollywood and belong to that gym as well. And it's quite a scene. It's a scene. And do you still belong there? No. No. Now I do not I haven't been I haven't been there in like three years, I think. I used to go and we would call it bike in and we would sit on the stationary bikes and just move our feet and talk for an hour. We would call it bike. We would call it we would call it bike. You would sit there and just go like this for an hour. And I wonder why I gained like literally 20 pounds that year. I'm starting to worry that my long-term boyfriend is losing interest in me because of the space between us. What can I do to keep the fire lit? Oh, I need to know more about this because why is their space? Are you in the same? Are you in a different city? Different country? Let's say different city. Okay, different city. I think start getting a little freaky on the phone. Definitely have some movie nights where you press play at the exact same time and you like sit on FaceTime. Do you have an Netflix party? Yeah, what is it? Oh my god, it was like my COVID kryptonite. You would go to and did you ever lose? You go to Netflix, you send the link to your friends and it starts together and you chat. Oh, that's cute. That's cute. Yeah, I've just from touring so much. I have a lot of advice and ideas with this stuff because it is hard read this. Start a new book that you haven't read and read it. And like, I mean, that sounds like kind of cheesy, but it's kind of cute and fun. It's sad. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, there's like a lot of things you can do, especially with like FaceTime and stuff. Right. A lot of slutty. No, I'm kidding. No, but like, yeah, I just get, yeah, I feel bad. You have done long distance with the sky with your fiancee. Yeah, but I've also done long distance with other people as well. Is it one of the hardest things ever? I mean, it depends. The people I was dating who were long distance were also musicians. So we were all we would both be touring and we'd figure it out. You know, it just, it really depends how much you like the person, if you really like someone, you can make it work. Right. That's why whenever people are like, oh, we live in different cities. I'm like, I fucking dated someone that was in Australia when I was in LA. Right. I think you could figure it out. That's crazy. Yeah. Because how far ahead is Australia? Like a day and a half or something crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. My roommate says slay after every sentence, including when I told her my grandpa died. Sorry. No, I feel like I feel like that's fucking annoying. Slay, though, like slay. If somebody dies, it's just like there is an overuse of it. And I think this is that person sounds annoying. That person sounds annoying in general. Yeah. They need to just like their personality sucks. Right? Like after my grandma honestly, they know that that is funny. My grandpa died. Slay. That's funny. Like that is a funny use of slay. I think like I once read it, tell me what's wrong. And this girl said this, her roommate hooked up with the guy she had a crush on and knew she had a crush on him, came back and said, Tee, I went to bed. And that to this day is my favorite. Tell me what's wrong. I've ever gotten. Yeah. Slay. I'm in love with my, this is the last one. I'm in love with my friend. Oh, the last one. I know. But then I am so fun. I want to do this all day. This is a good, this is a good batch. Really? These are great. I think I'm in love with my friend, but she just asked me to be her maid of honor. Oh. So you need to get a grip respectfully. Yeah. She's getting married. No, get a grip. Yeah. Get a grip. Maid of honor. If it's going to make you be like weird and like passive aggressive and make her wedding awkward. Yeah. Don't be selfless. Politely, politely decline. This must be like her best friend though. Wait, did it say? No, but like to maid of honor. Yeah. It's just a friend, but I would it sooner sister, but it's not the sister. Okay. Well, I think either put your feelings aside because it's not going to happen. Right. Or if you're, if you can't do that and you're going to like be weird and annoying and passive and unless you're going to pull like one of those rom coms and that's why I was just thinking, but those are so unrealistic. But your day with the car impounded sounded like a rom com rom com or the car stolen. Sorry. I just thought of how cute he looked with his little ice cream. Oh, that is really sweet. How long have you guys been engaged for two years? Like a year and some change. Got it. Yeah. Um, I love that and some change. Yeah. I'm going to start saying that. What are you listening to right now? I know what you're watching. You're watching me. I mean, what are you listening to? Okay. Um, okay. Okay, Lou. Who's that? Incredible. She's a French based in Paris. Oh, wow. She's amazing. Um, Ray, obviously, love, right? Crown bin. Amazing. I don't know if that's how you pronounce it. It's a spelled crumbin that love. Um, Maribou State. There's just like a production duo from the UK that I love. Do you know them? Sick. I'm so excited. I feel like I'm finding out so much. Yeah. Um, and then like brandy. That's how how I said I never warm up. I actually this last tour warmed up singing to Brandy. Really? Yeah. I love Brandy. Um, who else? Emojen heap always one of the faves. Oh, yeah. She's everything. Yeah. Um, she did the original Good Night and Go, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's so cool. Uh, Clara, how I love. I love Clara. Uh, do you listen to Japanese house? Yeah. Louise was like, you would love Japanese house and I've never gone into them. You know, I never got into Fiona Apple either. I know. Oh, okay. Fiona Apple is like for me, that one artist, when I was younger, that like really, really was the one for me. Like, I think that's like Taylor Swift for you. Yeah. Yeah. That's Fiona for me. What type of music does she say? She's just raw and real and like divinely femininely wild. She's like a wild woman and just like real and raw and just crazy piano chords and beautiful melodies and lyrics so intricate and just amazing. And what's your favorite album by her? I truly can't choose. Really? Yeah. Did she, um, have you ever met her? Mm-hmm. I don't want to meet her. Really? I mean, Fiona, I would love to meet you. But, um, I don't know. I just, she, okay, I would love to meet her. But, you know, when people like represent something in your life, it's like sometimes when I meet people who maybe feel that way that I feel about her about me, I'm like, it almost feels like, oh, I hope I like lived up to it. Live up to that. But it's not even about that. It's not about living up to it. It's just, I just appreciate her as a human, you know? So, yeah, I would love to meet her. But no, I've not met her. Have you seen her live? Yeah. Is she awesome live? Amazing. I think I'm gonna really try to get into her. Yeah, you should. I know it sounds, I have people. Listen to Never is a Promise. I love that song. Is that newer or. It's old. What was the song that like took her off? Criminal. Criminal? Yeah. And that was in 90. Yeah, long time ago. I need to listen to her. Yeah. I need to. Um, well, thanks. What did we learn? I forget, do I call you Jillian or Banks? Whatever you like. I think it's Jillian. Yeah, call me Jillian. No, is it Banks? Why would I tell you that? What is it? What do you prefer? I truly, I mean, I have half people call me Banks, half people call me Jillian. Like, it's, it's truly like. You prefer Jillian, call me Jillian. Jillian, what did we learn today? I learned that I should probably be like one of those like dear Amy people because I really, I really enjoyed that exercise. Um, what else? That's all. I learned more about Fiona Apple. Yeah, good. And I'm excited to, and I learned about how you enjoy touring. And your first date with your fiance. That was out of a wrong calm. Love that. Well, I love you. Yeah, thank you for coming on the show. Yeah, thanks for having me. You want to give a little bye-bye Pussies. Bye-bye Pussies.