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Crooked Con is coming up right after the election, and we have just added a bunch more great names to the lineup. We've got Governor J.B. Pritzker coming, Senator Chris Murphy, and then over from the House side, Ilhan Omar, Robert Garcia, Sarah Jacobs, Jamie Raskin, Sarah McBride. We also have Carlos Eduardo Espina, Simone Sanders Townsend, Eugene Daniels, David Pakman, Jessica Tarloff, Heather McGee, and then all the other people that we've announced on the website, plus more to come. Great list. Check out the full lineup and get tickets right now at CrookedCon.com. We'd love to see you there. That's CrookedCon.com. What's up, Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It, live from Hollywood. I'm John Lovett. We've got a great show for you tonight, but first, let's get into it. What a week. We are less than a month out from the midterms, and President Trump is really out there, pounding the campaign trail hard. Here he is, pressing the flesh for Ohio Senator John Husted. And I don't do this with men very often. I started examining his body because I didn't know he was a great athlete. And I looked, and I watched up and down. I looked at his ass, and I looked at the whole. And then I looked at his hands. You are a great athlete. I didn't know that because he doesn't talk about that. In fairness to Trump, he arrived at Youngstown pretty horny, given the city's name. Let's take a look at this fine specimen, John Husted. John Husted. Is your ass the faltering U.S. economy? Because my interest is skyrocketing. Are you a guy that's going to build a lot of data centers? Because I'd let you drain me. I'd let you drain me. I just wish Lindsey Graham were alive to see this. It would have killed him. But Trump wasn't just there to praise Husted's body. He also has a face. Look at that jawline. I'm telling you. I never saw that. I never studied him. Now I study him. I say, why was he such a good footballer? Look at the jawline. He's tough as hell. Fun fact, John Husted played football for the University of Dayton, as in Trump wishes he was Dayton John Husted. J.D. Vance was also in a loving mood on the campaign trail. Here he is in Tyler, Texas. Now, before we get started, I love you too, sir. In a totally platonic way, to be clear. I'm the vice president, not James Tallarico, but I got to. See, this is the difference between Trump and Vance. Trump can riff for 20 minutes on another man's ass, and he does it with confidence. Vance, meanwhile, is a closeted gay man. Vance's entire existence has been shaped by this secret, the invisible black hole at the core of his galaxy of bright ambition around which his entire life rotates, warping the fabric of his personality, wrenching apart who he is, who he desires to be. Or he's just weird, I don't know. Not that Democrats are necessarily batting 1,000. Here is Democratic candidate Jamie West, who is currently running for Fiat County Council in Indiana. And our last question of the night is, if elected, what is one decision that you expect to make that may be unpopular with some voters, but you believe ultimately would be in the best interest of Fiat County? Hmm. Firing all Republicans. I wouldn't let them. I mean, I don't even talk to them. I don't like them. I mean, ah. That brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters. Hmm. We have guns, too. We have guns, too. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, the first female president of the United States, Jamie West. Meanwhile, back in D.C., a federal judge put a stop to the Trump administration's tree-killing spree after over 430 trees were chopped down at D.C.'s East Potomac golf course over the weekend without proper notice. Bad luck for Trump. He was randomly assigned a Biden appointee named Judge Lorax. U.S. District Judge Ana Reyes blasted the DOJ attorney in court. The court on Monday, as they had promised the court would get notice before they made any irreversible changes. But the attorneys only alerted the court at 4.55 p.m. on Friday before the three-day weekend. Was it an end run around the Constitution or another tragic case of adult ADHD? Hard to say. But DOJ attorney Marissa Piripato defended the decision, telling the judge, we did our best, to which the judge replied, you did not do your best. You did your absolute worst, which is pretty unfair because unless they're shooting these trees, in the head in front of their wives, this isn't anywhere near this administration's worst. Said the judge, yep, that's right. That's a harsh, that was a tough, true, fair, but difficult observation. Nothing to laugh about for sure at our comedy show, so I respect that. Said the judge, what has happened has cost the government all of its credibility. Now, if you'll excuse me, added Judge Reyes, I just woke up from my 10-year coma and need to check in on my dear friend in college, roommate Harambe. Trump announced Friday that Newsmax could be reelected and commented that true social advisor Katie Zachariah will be the new press secretary, succeeding Caroline Leavitt. She was, of course, chosen by the orb of darkness. Zachariah also had a brief stint working for Kristi Noem at DHS last year, so you know she's got that dog in her. And folks, Katie is a natural. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as the new White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement never seen before in the history of midterms thanks to President Trump. Honestly, she did pretty well for someone who, I get the sense, learned to read over the weekend. The content is press secretary's first day, but the delivery is worst maid of honor speech you've ever heard. In his announcement, Trump called Zachariah Zachariah, fuck, an attorney. Who cares? Zach called Zach an attorney, but both Zach and the White House have dodged questions about her legal qualifications. He said she's an attorney. Where did she pass the bar exam? Which state? What did she tell him? When did you pass the bar exam when I moved to China? Which doesn't make sense. It would be like saying when did you become a submarine captain? And the answer being when I moved to Wyoming. And not to make snap judgments about someone after watching one press conference, but I did not get the vibe that this is a person who graduates from law school and then passes the notoriously difficult Chinese language national unified legal professional qualification exam from this woman at all. Zachariah, Zachariah, fuck, also had this to say. Why? I want to say it like Zachario for some reason. That's what, isn't that, I don't, fuck it. Zachariah, Zachariah also had this to say when asked about the rigors of balancing her new job with her family life. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is completely unacceptable. So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. My husband is out here, is out here for the week. That is a good one, chuckled Natalie Harp while emptying a bottle of Drano into Zachariah's Stanley Tumbler. CNN had this report following Zachariah's first press conference. I spoke with one White House official who said, that a lot of them missing Caroline today. Yeah, she really made it look easy, said another official, it being lying. Zachariah did at least provide an update on U.S. Ambassador to Greece Kimberly Guilfoyle after reports of a brazen quid pro quo with a Trump donor. We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. She has been a wonderful asset to the team and we wish her well. Guilfoyle responded defiantly with this statement. The best is yet to come. And yet, Guilfoyle said, Guilfoyle resigned soon after, though she insisted the allegations are false and that she will vigorously defend herself. Right when I get back from Greece, which will be very soon, added Guilfoyle, as she blinded Poseidon's son, Polyphemus. Oh no. Ominous. There was, that joke had no hope. There was no hope that a specific reference without any context to the fucking Odyssey was going to work. I don't care how many people showed up to the show. No one was going to laugh at that one. I'm coming back over here. Meanwhile, here's Trump being asked about Guilfoyle on Tuesday. I'm similar to Guilfoyle. She was almost a member of your family. How surprised were you to learn about these allegations? What did you think of her? No, she wasn't a member of my family. She, I guess, dated my son a long time ago. She was doing a good job, but we didn't like what we were reading. Boy, I really dodged a bullet there, huh? Just totally driven by money, said Donald Trump Jr. to his current wife, Bettina, who loves him for his personality. Shortly after Guilfoyle got shit-canned, the Daily Mail reported that in addition to the $100,000 credit card debt she tried to get a Trump donor to pay, Guilfoyle approached several wealthy Greek businessmen to pay off her G-Wagon to the tune of $250,000. In Kimberly Guilfoyle's defense, what car could she drive but a G-Wagon? She looks like a G-Wagon who turned into a person who drives a G-Wagon. Does that make sense? I don't know what it is about this car, but it is, and this is an aside, it is like a magnet for assholes. Like, why do people want to drive a $200,000 SUV that is just a boxy, more expensive version of every other very fancy SUV. And look, I think all people should be treated with respect and equality, and each and every soul is precious. And so I don't really mean this, but on some level, if every person who drives a G-Wagon disappeared at once, I don't even think there would be a memorial. It would be like the leftovers, but happy. On Tuesday, Secretary of State Riley Barnes tweeted a welcome to Ambassador-at-Large Barbara Thornhill, the new director of the department's office to combat trafficking. Barbara Thornhill, seen here, catching a glimpse of the Ark of the Covenant. She's also a pioneer, the very first ambassador to ever come from the back rooms. She's breaking the glass ceiling into your bedroom while you're asleep. All jokes aside, I am sick of these nepo baby hires. She obviously only got the job because her dad is jigsaw. You know, we debated whether it was acceptable to make these kinds of jokes. We don't like to just make fun of people just because they happen to be Republicans. But then we think, well, why don't, we don't like to make fun of people's looks because you can't make fun of things that are outside of people's control. But she chose that face. She picked it out of a book. In other political news, Texas Senate hopeful James Tallarico took a week off the campaign trail due to the flu, which he announced when he said during a virtual appearance, sorry, I can't be there. I have the flu. And then a bunch of conservative dipshits decided he was lying and had really, really been in the middle of a mental breakdown. Someone getting the flu in the fall after meeting many strangers and shaking all their hands while not getting enough sleep. It just didn't add up. So Ken Paxson's campaign called it a quote, full-blown mental Tala freak out. Again, based on nothing. Then two MAGA influencers released a secretly recorded tape that proved Tallarico had been in a Ohio mental health facility. Why Ohio? Shut up. Then it came out that those influencers lied to the facility to elicit private medical information in what may be a violation of the law. The full tape makes clear that the person on the phone did not find any record of Tallarico being there. And one of those influencers had quite a sordid record of his own facing charges in Kentucky related to kidnapping a woman's dog in order to get her to sleep with him, which didn't work. The dog hated it. The facility in question subsequently released a statement denying that Tallarico had ever been there. And then Tallarico himself denied ever even being in the state of Ohio ever once in his life. This guy never stops bragging. And by the time Tallarico was supposedly being discharged from this random place in Ohio, he was already back on the campaign trail in Texas. Tallarico even posted photos with country singer Kacey Musgraves at a concert in Dallas. This led our disgraced former Secretary of Homeland Security and another person who is very easy to imagine driving a G-Wagon she paid for with bribes, Kristi Noem, to weigh in. She tweeted, "I'll take Ella Langley over Kacey Musgraves any day. And if I'm choosing Texas, I'll take Ken Paxton over James Tallarico." And forget the sentiment for a moment. You can't have just introduced a different, random, uninvolved singer than use that person's song to do your pun, you dumb, corrupt gorgon. Ella Langley, I'll take the Baja Man any day. Because you know who didn't let the dogs out? Kristi Noem. You see, that was funny, but it's cheap. We just search for any, we find any artist in the world, you can make it work. But then Kacey Musgraves came back hard saying to Noem, and this is real, I don't think you have a dog in this fight. But if you did, you would have shot it. I haven't seen Kristi Noem go down that hard since that time her husband, Brian, turned around too quickly and accidentally knocked her clear across the room. Hackers launched a cyber attack on at least 350 French grocery stores this week, seizing control of the cooling systems, cranking up the temperature, and ruining hundreds of pounds of meat and frozen goods. "It smells horrible in here," said officials before the hack. Take that, France. Pringles is awesome. Pringles is offering a special can-shaped urn to a fan willing to one day have their ashes interd in it. But in a sense, every Pringles can is an urn if your wife hates you enough. In addition to the Pringles urn, the contest winner will receive $28,000, enough to buy a 200-year, quote, afterlife supply of Pringles once they have passed. Once he popped, we couldn't stop, said the winner's grieving family. Injustice alert. And you know what that sound means? There's been an injustice. Is it ICE menacing our cities? Is it Hillary Clinton's new podcast, which she did not ask me to be on? Is it the fact that we cannot appreciate our youth until it's well and truly gone? No. This injustice is the response to Alejandro Iñárritu's Digger starring the last movie star, Tom Cruise. This movie is going to lose over $245 million, even though it is a masterpiece. The critics panned it, and of course they did, you absolute fucking rubes, like Trump supporters, the most dangerous kind of naive people. Naive people who think they're cynical. You're not. A bunch of thorough-browed dummies who claim to be sophisticated but still need their hands held the whole time. Same people who complained that Barbie had a speech that explained the point of Barbie, revealing in their response to this movie that they clearly needed that fucking speech in Barbie. You need Tom Cruise to come out at the end and tell you what the movie was about? Or you'll assume that a group of people spent $300 million making the dumbest, simplest argument possible? What broke inside of you that you believe you're the only smart people on Earth? And I am sorry that I fell for the criticism. I let you down, Tom. We all did. Everyone here, any of you seen Digger yet? Woo! Shame on all of you. In a decade when we long for the good old days of the last Hollywood golden age right now, when we have Severance and Pluribus and Furious and this movie, Digger, you can try and blame the billionaires and fine, but we'll all better look in the goddamn mirror. And don't think that I'm saying this because we're getting a dime to promote this movie. David Ellison hasn't given us squat. I'm saying all this for free. Although I wouldn't turn down a complimentary T-shirt, Tom. Somebody show this to Tom. And everybody should go see this movie. To quote Hillary Clinton, Pokemon go to the movies. Yes, the midterm election's important, but so is this. 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And as of today, on Love It or Leave It, once. We'll find out which was the greater honor. Please welcome Astro astronaut, Dr. Daniel Leavis. Thank you for being here. Have you seen the movie Digger yet? I have not. Shame on you. Now, you flew two space missions in 2007 and 2009 in the Atlantis and Discovery space shuttles. What were the goals of those missions? So on STS-117, we took up one of the truss segments, the S3, S4 truss segments, which had a couple of solar rays on the starboard side, so basically on the right side of the vehicle. And on STS-128, we took up basically some equipment that outfitted the space station in preparation for the retirement of the space shuttle. So, yeah. Hey, Doge got your job. Yes, he got my job, yeah. That sucks. Hey, so what happened? They came in and Doge hit NASA, and then you were out. Yeah, so I had been hired or been asked by NASA because at the time I was serving on the NASA Advisory Council, I'd been long since retired. Retired in 2010, but in the 2022, '23 timeframe, I was asked by NASA to help them with the Artemis program because we brought home Artemis 1, and the heat shield didn't behave the way it should have behaved. And so they needed some expertise and understanding, so I became part of the independent investigation team. And in order to be able to get access to the data, I needed to become a NASA employee again. So I took the oath of office, became a NASA employee, and remained a NASA employee and was going to help the Artemis program through 2029. And then in early 2025, March timeframe, there was a big round of Doge cuts that came, and I was sitting in San Francisco airport, and I opened up my laptop, and I looked at an email, and it was a termination letter from NASA, so I'd gotten fired by NASA. But that's not even the kicker, right? Because I had gotten fired from NASA in March, and I thought to myself, I've got to be the only astronaut who's ever been fired from NASA, especially because I was just trying to help. But I stayed with -- There must have been some drunk guys in the '60s. But I think they all stayed with the program. But so I stayed with NASA, kind of monitoring the program as best that I could, because I was still part of the NASA Advisory Council as what they call an SGE, Special Government Employee. And in fact, I got a call when Jared Isaacman became the NASA administrator and says, hey, why don't you come on up, and I'd like you to take a look at the last set of data that we have with the Artemis heat shield, and, you know, could you, you know, could you evaluate it for us? And I said, yeah, I'm happy to do evaluate it. They've already looked at it, and they were comfortable with it. But there was a lot of criticism in the public. And I'm, you know, was in service of the astronauts who were flying on Artemis. And so I went up there, listened to the data, and I said, yeah, you know what, this all looks good. They said, great, would you mind, like, doing some interviews for us, because a lot of people don't know what happened. And, you know, we'd like you to basically be our public face. And, yeah, absolutely no problem. So I did that, and then -- four days before Artemis II launched on the pad, I got the letter from Jared basically saying that they had abolished all the positions of the NASA Advisory Council. So what I can say is that I got fired twice by NASA. So I know that's a first. So it's -- does that -- do you view that as being connected to the fact that, obviously, Doge was led by Elon Musk. He controls SpaceX. There's been a lot of sort of antipathy towards NASA and its role in space exploration. Do you connect those? I don't think there's a question. I mean, I think, you know, you take a look at the decimation that's happened to our space and our science program within NASA, and actually across all the federal government. I mean, there was an unprecedented thing that happened in the beginning of this administration that has never been seen before. And we lost a lot of technical competency and expertise. You know, someone like myself who, you know, my background is material science, and I consider myself to be an expert. And, you know, I'm hired to basically give expert opinions and expertise in this area. You know, if you take someone who's an astronaut with a Ph.D. and you just kind of like blindly fire them, you're not really sure why you're firing them, it just makes me think -- and really sad for the people who actually lost their lives. Now, mind you, I was -- this was a volunteer position for me. I wasn't making any money off of it. But I felt really, really bad because there were a lot of people who were let go. There was an entire livelihood, their entire existence, basically, you know, focused and centered around NASA. And not only did -- were they personally affected, but our country's space program was affected. Those -- that brain trust basically left. And it happened so randomly that I think it's going to be years before we figure out how badly the damage was done to our core knowledge within space and all the other government institutions which were hit. Do you think anyone's ever had sex in space? I know I haven't. And that's not just because my wife is going to be watching this, by the way. But no, I mean, so you go into space, and here's the thing, is that there's like absolutely no personal space in space. I mean, there are cameras everywhere. I remember I used to be -- I used to sit on mission control as a capsule communicator. And when you would get the third shift, so you had three different shifts, right? So the overnight shift, the crew was asleep, and you could actually watch, like, air flow, and you could see when people were moving inside the space station just by looking at the data of the space station with no cameras at all, right? You could see all -- you could see these various parameters of their CO2 production. You could see, you know, temperatures that were happening locally. And so, you know what? There's lots of ways to interrogate and to look and see who's doing what on space station. No spikes in CO2. No rhythmic air flow moving through the cabin. And no rocking, right? Because, yeah, it's like there's no gravity, so, yeah, it's floating around there. Yeah. When this space shuttle's a-rockin', check the thermal heat shield immediately. Hey, do you think that we should get a nuclear reactor on the moon before those commie bastards from China do? So I think it is a requirement if we're going to be in the South Pole to have some other alternative source of energy. Now, here's the thing. A lot of folks, when we think of nuclear, we tend to think of, like, Chernobyl. We think of Three Mile Island. But the fact of the matter is, is that NASA and other space-faring nations have used the radioisotope thermonuclear generators, basically, like, nuclear batteries in space from the get-go. In fact, the reason why we can hear from Voyager 1 and Voyager 2, remember, we continue to hear them. And they're out way outside. They were launched in the '70s. And they're out beyond the heliopause just because they've got these batteries on them that allow them to stay alive for a long time. In the South Pole, we don't get them. We don't get a continuous form of light, especially at dark. And so even if you had solar panels, it wouldn't help you. So unless you're going to be, like, in the equatorial area, you'd still have to contend with nighttime. But yeah, I think it's a possibility because we're talking-- scales are going to be much smaller. We've got lessons learned, like what happened in Chernobyl, what happened in Three Mile Island. Our understanding of safety and risk assessment has increased dramatically. And so I think we could do it safely and effectively. SPEAKER 1: Speaking of uniting for a noble cause, you're part of Astronauts for America, which is an organization that's trying to get people to vote and try to protect democracy. What are you guys doing through this election? SPEAKER 2: Well, so Astronauts for America, globally, for those who don't know, when you become a NASA astronaut, whether you're civilian or military-- SPEAKER 1: They tell you how Kennedy died. SPEAKER 2: You take an oath. And that oath is actually a sacred promise that you make to the United States and basically our taxpayers. And that is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. And it's under this umbrella, and it's under this oath, that united over 100 former NASA astronauts to take part in Astronauts for America, which is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that we started just in April. And we are looking at the Constitution and trying to basically amplify the voices of the American public and want to return back to constitutional norms. So we're looking at things like separation of powers. We're looking at things like-- you know, money in politics. We're looking at the things that, right now, we feel are crippling our democracy. Now, within this umbrella of stuff that we're looking at, we are embarked-- we've embarked on this one very narrow campaign, which is called the vote for freedom. You know, a lot of people don't know this, but in the demographics between '18 and '26, during midterm elections, historically, the participation is only about 30%. And in one way or another-- one recent place that I went to, one recent state that I went to-- the participation locally during the presidential election was 24% within the demographics. What that means is that the majority of the people whose future depends on this country don't have a voice. And they're not using their voice through their vote. And so part of our campaign, vote for freedom, is to reach out to these demographics. And we're doing so by going to college campuses across our country. I mean, we're not being local to any particular race, a red state or a blue state. It's like we are talking to any university that's willing to reach out to us and communicate. And encourage your students first to register. And then for those who do register, research the candidates. Research the issues. Make a plan. And then come November 3, or if early voting is possible, make a plan and vote. And that's what we're out there to try to do. That's great. Now, speaking of important missions with terrible risks, tonight we will let you choose which fictional space fate you'd prefer to face in a game we're calling In Space No can hear you choose here's how it works i will present you with two spine tingling cinematic space disasters and you tell us which one you'd rather take on are you ready astronaut i'm ready would you rather accidentally be abandoned alone on mars forcing you to collect your own poop for fertilizer like matt damon and the martian or wake up from a coma on a spaceship only to find out that it's only you that can keep the sun from burning out uh like in project hail mary which mission would you choose uh i think i would choose the mars one yeah that one had a lot of oxycontin in it it did but i like potatoes oh yeah potatoes that's good dipping in there next up would you like to get stuck in a bookcase in the future slash past via the tesseract in interstellar or have control of your ship seized from the inside by a deranged homicidal computer like in 2001 a space odyssey oh 2001 that was my my inspiration to become an astronaut you i'd like to get to know how a little bit better yeah i think they just needed to work on the communication with how do you think we'll ever have um that style of spacecraft that they have in 2001 a space odyssey it's also in the in the book 70s they have it where you spin to create gravity do you think that's possible well i mean it obeys physics but i mean the kind of spin rate that you would need in order to be able to kind of artificially create gravity is is a pretty good spin rate i'll take 0.5 g give me 0.5 g i'm standing i'm walking around i'm light yeah i mean so you know here's the thing is that i i think that these are our possibilities but the consequence associated with that is kind of the hardware development that's required the operations associated with it and you know it's it's hard enough as it is just blasting off the planet and getting human beings to stay alive in space let alone putting them on this you know basically giant ferris wheel in space yeah i still think we should try though uh would you rather team up with bruce willis to stop a meteor in 1998's armageddon i think that's a good idea i think that's a good idea i think that's a good idea or team up with morgan freeman to stop a meteor in 1998's deep impact um morgan freeman armageddon really that hurt that armageddon was tough right the movie hurt because armageddon was so did you are you were you deep impact you were a deep impact you like deep impact more i like deep impact that i think that was that was a cool movie because deep impact it was like a deep the scientists the real the real nerds were like they were deep impact people in an armageddon world you know yeah and i also i know a lot of people that work in the oil paddy industry and they're much like out in uh you know the midland area in texas and um i will tell you that uh the characters within that film i don't necessarily think we're kind of representative and you know if you landed on an asteroid by the way you know asteroids are they're kind of loosely compacted i mean we know that from from osiris rex when osiris rex went to impact the the crater or the uh an asteroid and bring back a sample essentially it it's so like there's not enough gravity to kind of keep it all compact and make it hard so that whole concept of what that asteroid was is a bit far-fetched and i don't know i have a problem with space movies you're asking my kids wait what's another space what's a what's a space movie that you really what's the best space movie oh best space movie without a dot apollo 13 apollo 13 yeah so a lot of the a lot of the the movies or a lot of the uh the portions where you see tom hanks and his and his um uh co-workers kind of like floating in this capsule those were actually shot in a in a vehicle called the it was a kc-135 at the time which is we call it you know affectionately call it the vomit comet which is a plane that goes up and down over the gulf of mexico and so when you come up at the top of the arc this this parabolic flight that you do is you get about 20 seconds worth of zero g that's simulated on the inside because you're basically falling at the same rate as the plane and the idea is to get a simulated you know zero g you know effect but then when you get at the bottom now you get a 2g pullout so you know no such thing as a free lunch right you get down to the bottom and now you have two times gravity kind of pressing on you as you come up to the top and then you go back to zero g 2g zero g and you do that for about 50 parabolas and that's why they call it the vomit comet can i ask a question about the vomit comet please so i i've only my closest experience to uh being on a plane or spaceship is doing the tower of terror uh the drop rides and i that's awesome but the drop rides there's it's a real like your stomach drops it feels really sickening is that the first thing that you do when you're on a plane or spaceship is that the first thing that you do when you're on a plane or spaceship is that the first thing that you do when you're on a plane and then it settles out is that transitioning from 1g to to zero g or does that is the feeling while you're in space because i'd be puking the whole time when you blast off the planet you know you're sitting at kennedy space center you're going zero miles an hour pointing straight up and as soon as they light the main engines and the solid rocket boosters go you know you're off to the races eight and a half minutes after you leave the pad you were in space and the main engines cut off we call it miko main engine cut off miko so when miko occurs all of a sudden everything you feel actually as you're accelerating out to orbital velocities you'll feel up to three times gravity kind of pushing against you so i weigh about 200 pounds so that's like me weighing 600 pounds being kind of pressed into the seat but as soon as you hit miko all of a sudden you're weightless and you start seeing things like dust floating up and you know you know a stray pencil or whatever and your stomach feels like you're at the top of a roller coaster starting to go down but it stays there but see wait what so but like so but this is what i meant like so but at some point it doesn't you don't you just kind of get used to it you settle into it or do you always feel a little bit strange well every one of your perceptions of what normality is goes away so your eyes know where the ground is and knows where the ceiling is and so your eyes give you a visual perception of what gravity looks like we also have this fluid in our inner inner ear these three tubes eustachian tubes which have gravity acting on that fluid they're actually in kind of three different directions so that helps us with our gravity that's why when we get a cold and we have like you know pressure in our ears you kind of feel you have a little bit of vertigo so those are working for you and then you have what's called the seat of the pants in other words you can close your eyes and you can always kind of know where gravity is just kind of like feeling where it is at least for short periods of time when you get in space all that goes away so gravity is no longer acting on the inner ear the way you normally do it um you your perception of you know up down left or right are gone you now only have closer to and further away from things and you're no longer acting on the inner ear the way you normally do it and as far as seat of the pants is concerned that's completely gone because there's no the vector of gravity is not acting on you in the same way i always thought it was strange and we simply must move on i always thought it was strange like if i like why not just decide in a in a spacecraft like in the international space station this is the ground this is the ceiling we paint the you know what i mean like you could even do it with color like paint the top sky color paint the bottom grass color and we all just call that's down that's up and that's you must have been there writing the procedures because that's exactly the way it is on the space station yep you've got the deck you've got the floors you know and and we have to actually be able to do that in order for us to have any kind of orientation especially when it comes to like emergency situations if all of a sudden you had to evacuate space station and all the lights went out you better know where the deck is right because you're going to know based on the deck and where you're at how you're going to get back to the space station or back to like to the uh the lifeboats whether it's a soyuz or one of the dragon vehicles and the thing about space station now is it's like a habitrail i mean there's components going off in all different directions there's a russian segment so i mean there's a safety of flight issue associated with that and that's one of the reasons why also it's the way we train because we can train that here on the ground and we can chain it in what's referred to as a 1g orientation but but incidentally so let's call this the the international space station when when the space shuttle used to dock which we know based on what the space shuttle looks like what up down left or right looks like but when we dock we would actually dock like this and we would dock like this so the up down left or right when you're on space station as soon as you come to the docking tunnel changes completely once you get in the space station because the deck is right here you know overheads right here and then your walls are right here so you're you're you have to like basically do this mental gymnastics uh trigonometrically in your brain as you're going from the space shuttle into the space station that's and then it must smell kind of weird because it's a place that's only been cleaned by scientists you know so here's the thing so space station space station is kind of like a hospital you know it has continuous what we refer to as eclips systems environmental uh life uh environmental life control uh environmental control life support system eclips eclss and it's constantly scrubbing the air it's pulling humidity out it's keeping the temperature at a constant temperature of 72 degrees relative humidity we have to control the relative humidity so that we don't have like static electricity build up so that that relative humidity stays the same all the time and the air is constantly flowing and constantly being cleaned because otherwise if you don't have air airflow and you're just up there in space and you have all the oxygen that you want as you breathe in and out because you don't have convection your hot air from your breath doesn't go up it just kind of goes out and goes back in again and eventually you build this giant co2 bubble around your head and so if you have no airflow there's no way for that that that air to flush across your face and if you're if you're not careful at night like on the space shuttle you go to sleep and if you put your head in an area that doesn't have any airflow you end up with a co2 headache you're getting co2 poisoning now you'll wake up before anything bad happens and all you got to do is basically just do this and you kind of get air flowing into it and then you move yourself to some place where you do have you know a little flow of air so obviously i have to ask one final question which is what have people are ripping ass up there they're they're just lingering these farts are just fucking lingering what happens right come on we we have we have a uh a bed which is a carbon um a carbon filtration bed just like you have in any other filtration system so All that air gets pulled in. I mean, look, there's a lot stinkier stuff up there for the experiments that we conduct. You know, we have to be able to scrub, you know, a lot of nasty stuff out of the air if we have, like, a problem with some of these experimental equipments that this stuff actually releases. We have to be able to scrub it out. So, you know, a little poot here and there, yeah, it's going to get out just like that. Well, that's lovely to hear. Thank you so much for sharing that. Daniel Levis, thank you so much. Go to astronautsforamerica.org to learn more about getting out the vote and supporting our democracy, and we'll be right back. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by SimpliSafe. The feelings people are left with in the aftermath of a home break-in are so much more than just the loss of possessions. They're also about the fundamental breach of safety in a place where we're supposed to feel our safest. SimpliSafe gets that. 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How are we going to go from how do you fart in space to what quips do you have about the latest? No, you're, excuse me, you're very interesting. Thank you. You're very interesting. Have you seen the film? You've seen the film, Digger. I haven't. Come on! I haven't, I haven't, but I'm not, I'm not a hater. I'm excited to do it. Great. I'm excited to watch. Yeah. I'm going to bring this thing back. All right, I'm going to save right now. All right? There's going to be a, this is going to get some, we're going to get some Oscar buzz. This is going to be a cult classic, like Lebowski or Shawshank. Just mark my words, all right? There's going to be, it's going to, there's going to be a second run. We're going to make this money back. Why do I want to make David Ellison's money back? All right? Now, I want to ask a serious question, because in June you posted that you were diagnosed with tonsil cancer. Oh, yeah. The only thing funnier than farting in space is definitely tonsil cancer. Yes, I got that. But it's better, it's better if you say it for what it truly is, which is I got the Michael Douglas cancer. That's a little more fun. That's cool. That I gave too much to women. I perhaps was too generous of a lover over the course of my life. Thank you. And that's what the medical professionals have told you. That's right. Well, actually what the doctor said, I think you'll enjoy this. This shit's about to get so much dirtier on this show. But he said, my doctor in, the first surgeon I went to said this is HPV, what it is is it's HPV positive tonsil cancer. And he said that you get it from cunnilingus or if you're gay, from analingus. Okay. And I looked at him, I said, do you think only gay men eat ass? Is that something that you think is sexually true? And it was very cute. I got to educate an HPV positive tonsil surgeon about straight men eating ass, which I've been doing since the early nineties. And, and he's, and we've always said that we've known that about you. That's something that's part of your personality. That's why you invited me on the show in the first place. That's right. Now, uh, you posted that a Jewish surgery robot at Cedars-Sinai yanked your jaw open for five hours, cut it out, and then slid your throat and dissected your neck, leaving you with a hardcore neck scar, which will make people reluctant to street fight you. Okay. Yeah, I did post that. And to be honest, my doctor at Cedars, Dr. Alan Ho, um, a Dr. Ho is the preeminent HPV surgeon here in Los Angeles. Uh, is a, he went to Harvard. That's what you want. You know what I mean? You, when you get surgery, you're like, did you go to Harvard? He, I don't think he, I don't think you can really see it. Wow. He's so good. An artist and a surgeon. Do you guys see it? Can you see it? Barely. Yeah. Well it's there. Cool. Yeah. They did what's called a, um, a radical tonsillectomy, which is, well, it's only called that in Southern California. Um, in Boston, it's called a wicked tonsillectomy. And, um, and, and a neck dissection. Oh. Which is, I thought, I told the surgical team, like, can we not call it, like, why would you call it that? Why not call it a, a lymph node removal surgery? Why dissection? Why something I did to a cow's eyeball in middle school? But, um, they took out like about, I don't know, 30 or 40 lymph nodes and they cut my tonsil out and a whole lot more than my tonsil. And, uh, it was, um, I mean, listen, it was, this has all been the worst thing I've ever been through in my life. And has it, now you, some people say, oh, I, I, it opens your mind, it makes you appreciate things. But you said that it opens your mind. You said that it was, um, the most terrifying and consciousness consuming experience of your life. Terror, tears, and medical planning. Was there, was there the kind of reflective part? That'd be funny if there wasn't. No, I'm pretty much the same dude, but, um, I don't like surgery. I realize that, um, no, I, I, I, I don't think that they're mutually exclusive at all. I think that they, uh, they are in, uh, they are in dialogue with one another. I think that the terror, I mean, listen, the, um, the way that I describe it is like, um, you know, you, you think that you're, you know, that you're mortal, right? I thought that I knew that I was mortal. And then I found this, uh, out about my body. And I realized I hadn't known in a true way that, that there's a deeper knowing of mortality where it wasn't like, oh yeah, abstractly. Like you think that Digger is a great movie, right? - Well, once it wins best picture, you'll, there'll be a knowing underneath the knowing. - There'll be a knowing. - I, I found a, um, a no, a knowing of my own mortality that was deeper, more terrifying, but also, I mean, what I can really say, and this is, um, dark, but what is clear to me is that this is the first, not the last horrifying medical situation that I will be in. In my life. And I don't mean, I mean, all of us, all of us will go through this. And I remember I was getting my, my surgery consultation at Dr. Ho's office. And there was another guy in there, uh, an older man. And he had the same, we did the, like, you know, the black guy nod, where you're walking down, you guys know the black guy nod, where you're like, sup? We had the cancer surgery nod. We're like, oh, you got the, oh, you're doing the, you're doing the, uh, oh, what's up? And he was old. And he goes, what's up? He goes, first cancer? Like all jovial. And I go, no, like it's the last, my last. No, I don't mean my last. It's not my last. It's a, I mean, it's my only. And I realized like, we're all going somewhere. We are all, uh, you know, they say like disability will, is the, is the, is the only, um, uh, marginalized community that every single one of us will join at some point. We are going to get sick and this is, I'm going to, I'm going to get better from this, but I will get sick again. And so will you, and so will we all. And so making peace with that, uh, my mortality and my frailty and my humanness, um, has been a, yes. One of the most spiritually mind opening things I've ever experienced in my life, but also it's been horrible. My rabbi said, um, rabbi Susan Goldberg over at Nefesh. You've maybe been there. Maybe you haven't. Anyway, she, she said. - I'm right or die for brass. - She said, okay. Yeah. I didn't mean to start a rivalry, but, um, but she's east side, you're west side. It's a classic rivalry. She said, uh, cause she's had her own, um, uh, uh, had her own cancer diagnosis and we were talking about it. She says, you would never, there are, there is knowledge that you get when you go through this, that you cannot get in any other way. And I would give it back in an instant. There's a kind of, of, uh, enlightenment that I received from going through this and I, it's not worth it. I don't want it. I would give it back tomorrow. I would be more naive tomorrow, but I'm grateful for the knowledge that I have. You were in the pit. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, you were a sign language interpreter. Uh, what was that? Like, uh, do you think that there should be more sort of acting roles, uh, for people, uh, who can sign, but don't have to be funny while they're signing? Like, should there, like, I feel like there's like a, a way in which like, there's a, there are deaf roles and there are comedy roles, but they're not overlapping, right? Like they're not put together or is that not true? Well, I think that, uh, we are seeing with deafness and with a lot of different disability in real time, they're becoming an expansion of the kinds of stories that get to get told in, uh, in disabled spaces. Um, I think that for most of my childhood, my parents are deaf. My, my, my whole family's deaf. Um, and in fact, I'm doing a one person show. I'm starting to tour again now that my health is back and I'm doing this one person show called Dakota switch about my life growing up in a deaf family. Um, and it's very funny and it's very irreverent and dirty at times. And, um, but I think that growing up deaf roles were kind of touched by an angel roles. And I think that slowly there, you know, the roles are more complex. They're, they're dirtier there. We all know that people from groups that have been, uh, deified are not actually deities. They are in fact, human beings, just like everybody else. They fart in space and they fuck and they get high. And, uh, so yeah, I think that that is changing. Yeah. The, um, I, somebody noted that I can't remember this comedian that notices that a lot of people confuse. Anne Frank and Helen Keller. And it's like, there's no real reason that those two things are connected other than we learn about them in school. But like, I think people often confuse them. I do. I, when I heard this, like, oh yeah, I do that too. Well, are you familiar with, um, uh, Helen Keller truthers? Yes. That they don't believe that they think it was all fake. Yeah. And I think that is what can, uh, bring our, your previous guest and me together, which is that we are both in communities that are, uh, under fire by conspiracy theories. And I actually do want to encourage that, uh, that the pod save America, love it or leave it empire fund a Mr. B style prank show where you're, uh, where, uh, we send flat earthers to space in a SpaceX shuttle. Okay. We have come up and Stu Elon Musk, we get SpaceX on board. We send flat earthers to space and we document the entire thing of them turning from a globe, globe tards into true believers. I think it's just a great idea. I don't even think we got a, I don't think we need to trick them. I think we'd say like, Hey, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to get, we will pay you to become an astronaut. We will show you space. We will show you that the earth is round. If you're willing to go on this rocket, I think that's an incredible idea. Yeah. I think we should do that. And what's cool about it is unlike Helen Keller, the earth is actually a globe. Helen Keller was of course hearing and could see, but the earth is in fact spherical. It's funny. I almost got an applause break on that, which would be weird. I'm just glad you're brave enough to say it. For those that don't know, that theory is that Helen Keller was neither deaf nor blind, but that somehow she was engaged in some kind of like decades long subterfuge with her, her, her, her aid, whose name, uh, and, and I should know this certainly. And what Frank, that's why people think, what was the name? And they saw Annie Sullivan. That's what I just realized in real time. Why people mistake it because it's because of Annie Sullivan, Annie involved. There isn't any involves now, obviously you've been through a lot this year. Uh, uh, so we've come up with a number of unfortunate situations and we want to ask you what the uplifting silver lining might be in a segment. We're calling an attitude of gratitude. First up. All right. Let's find the gratitude in realizing that the horrible smell at the dinner party is, is dog shit. You must've stepped in right before you entered the house. What am I supposed to do here? Be grateful for it. Oh, I'm grateful for that. Next up. Be grateful for it. Next up. Uh, you find out your plane's takeoff has been delayed and you'll be stuck in the tarmac for awhile. Just as the person in the seat next to you cracks open a container of fish tacos. Oh, how do I find gratitude within this framework experience? Oh, um, I think it's by getting to know the person sitting next to me and say, uh, I too am hungry. I too eat a taco. And once you start eating the taco, you no longer, it's much, I mean, it is, it is, I would say eerily like farting in space. Once you fart in, into the space, you start to fart in, into the carbon bed. You become unable to smell your, uh, fell right. You just need one bite and then you're not really dealing with the problem anymore. And if there's one community that wants to share, it's the fish taco eating community, uh, my friend Spencer and I once brought two big honking Chipotle burritos to a movie and we thought the movie was going to be empty, but the movie was basically sold out. And, and then we sat down and we took out, we took our big burritos out and we started eating them. And the guy next to Spencer said, Hey, would you guys moving over one seat, those burritos really stink. And Spencer said, nah, we're going to eat them. We're going to eat them. And Spencer said, nah, we're good. I got to say like, I'm not on Spencer side. No, no, no, a hundred percent. We were the villains in that story. I did concede. We were villains. We should have slid over one. I think saying, nah, we're good. Was it crazy? I got to say bringing Chipotle to the movies is R is already crazy. So I got it. We go back to the thing. If I'm on the plane, I'm stuck on the tarmac. There's somebody eating fish tacos. I just grab a fish taco and I stuff it into my cargo pack. Beautiful. Next up, you accidentally like an ex, an ex's Instagram photo. Yeah. Do you have an ex's Instagram photo from six months ago? Uh, an ex is, well, if I have, uh, an ex whose photo from six months ago, I'm, I've been, I'm yesterday was my 12th, uh, wedding anniversary. So that means that I've been in substantial cheat mode for quite a while. Well, I think this could just mean that you scrolled back through your broken up, but you're just, what they are seeing is that, oh, wow, my ex has been scrolling through my photos and accidentally liked one from a long time ago, which means that they've been really digging in deep. I think you just DM them and say, that's right. I liked it. I want you back. And no, it doesn't matter if it's true. You just commit all the way. Yeah. Yeah. Just set up, send a wedding registry. Yeah. That's beautiful. Um, let's do, uh, uh, you're giving a speech at a family wedding and in front of everyone, completely blank on your cousin's new wife's name and your attempt to joke past it. You also forget your cousin's name. The second stretch on like hours, you're still there. It's happening right now. Uh, um, I think I scream, I have HPV positive tonsil cancer. All things can be forgiven. Wow. Yeah. It's really kind of, have you, has it been a kind of like get out of, get out of thing free card? It definitely, it definitely has, um, is useful. Um, I have not used it as much as I would like because the truth is, um, I was so incapacitated for such a long time that I didn't desire to be away from, I mean, this is rare because I, I know the sweet, the sweet pleasure of canceling on something with full impunity, but, uh, I did not use it much because I missed, I missed everybody. I missed being out in the world and, uh, and it feels so good to be back. Actually. Well, that's so nice. I found some gratitude. Look at that. And that's a great place to leave it. Uh, go to motion cash or.com. You have ticket. You're coming up. You're seeing you're going to be in the Tacoma comedy club on Halloween weekend and at the bell house in Brooklyn for their new, for the New York comedy festival on November 8th. That's right. I'll be, I'm going to be doing that Coda switch show. Um, and it's all about my life growing up in a deaf family and Hasidic Jews and drug addiction in Oakland, California, and all this stuff. It's a one person show I've been working on for a long time and I'm very proud of it. And finally, I would not be a responsible, uh, HPV positive tonsil cancer person without saying there is a vaccine for this. Uh, it's Gardasil and you can take it and you can give it to your children and they do not have to suffer what I have suffered or what millions of men and women have had to suffer with cervical cancer and tonsil cancer, fucking vaccinate your kids. You can work out all of your sort of RFK fever dreams with the mumps vaccine or whatever. Uh, but just get fucking vaccinated. 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Subscribers get ad-free shows, plus excellent exclusive podcasts, newsletters, and much, much more. So thank you for listening and supporting what we do. Head to crooked.com slash friends today to learn more and become a subscriber. And we're back. Hop in, fellas. We're going for a spin of the rant wheel. Here's how it works. We'll spin the wheel wherever it lands. We'll rant about the topic of our choosing. Let's spin the wheel. Astronaut Daniel Levis, what would you like to rant about for 60 seconds? Oh my God, Hollywood, please, please, please. When we shoot films about space, let's just obey the laws of physics. Please, please, please. Shooting guns in space and all this. I saw Sandra Bullock in Gravity of a space suit, basically kind of wearing her underwear. And I know why they did it, but you would actually be wearing a liquid cooling ventilation garment, because otherwise you would overheat while you're in the space suit, which of course, I mean, is about human physics. So, you know, and I think, you know, physics is a pretty incredible thing. And I think the universe is a pretty incredible thing. You have black holes, you have dark matter, the 95% that we don't know about. The universe is infinite, and it has billions and billions and billions of galaxies, like all over the place. Our closest neighbor is 150,000 light years away. That's pretty impressive. We don't need to embellish that. Yeah, that's why, that's why I walked out of the film Gravity. I was like, there's no heat retarding garment. Where's her garment? This movie doesn't make any fucking sense. Where's the garment, Sandra? Shame on them. Shame on Hollywood. We deserve to lose the industry. All right, let's spin it again. Moshe, what would you like to rant about? Oh, I, I mean, this, I just want to tell you, Hollywood, please, if you're going to make a movie about space, this is a little bit weird that this, it's the very same thing. No, I, I finally am afraid of AI. I've been an AI positive apologist for such a long time, because I was so convinced that while there's almost no hope with AI, there is no hope with humanity. But then today, I heard that the AI has finally solved, like, these millennia-long mathematical challenges, and that the entire mathematical world is, like, considering suicide, because they have nothing to do anymore. And I'm like, what the fuck? Even when AI does what it's supposed to do, it's not droning us all to death. It's actually succeeding in its mission. It still fucking sucks. Like, we're still, like, what is, no one's ever been able to tell me what is the good case, what happened, I get we cure cancer, but, which would be actually really beneficial for me specifically, but what is the good case? What is the positive case? When we finally, we succeed in our investment, everybody gets laid off, what happens next? We're all going to be bored as fuck. There's going to be nothing left to do. Yeah. I should also say, HPV positive tonsil cancer has a very high cure rate. I'm, I'm going to be okay. Almost definitely. Hell yeah. Yeah. So you'll get to see what the robots decide for you. I'll be able to finally look up at the night sky and see zero stars. That's how long I plan on living. Um, let's spin it again. Uh, I'll tell you what I'd like to rant about the lack of respect in our society for a man named Tom Cruz. Uh, that man is, he gives us everything and much in the same way that we wonder if the AI will have our interest at heart or will one day just leave us behind. Tom Cruz at any moment can say, I'm done. And then you know what happens? We literally never see him again. For the rest of our lives. He could decide today. They don't like my film. I'm going to the fortress. What fortress? A fortress we don't know about. We never see him again. I don't want to live in that world. I want to live in the world where the light of time cruise shines upon us. And if we all want that, then we all know what we have to do. We need to see a film called digger that is out right now. And then we need to realize that the critics that hated it, really, what do they hate? I think maybe it's themselves. Maybe it's themselves and maybe it's the ambivalence. I think maybe it's the ambivalence and strange feeling that this film created in them because it's not the kind of movie like Marvel that they claim to despise, but really in their heart of hearts are all they really want because they want to hate something bad instead of figuring out how to love something good. Okay. That's all I wanted to say about that. And we're back. And we're back. I'm a meticulous and thorough person. And yet somehow, occasionally, a mistake might slip through. Did it tonight? We'll find out in a segment we call Second Thoughts. Here's how it works. I have a list of things I may have screwed up from the producers of this program, and I will share a few of them with you. Let's see. I couldn't pronounce the word Zachariah. We practiced it during rehearsal, and I actually couldn't get it. I couldn't get it during the show. I tried to make it into something that was part of the show. Kind of worked, and I'm really sorry. I was looking her up today because I didn't know who she was, and I was tickled with the Google results, which one of the main ones was, are she and Fareed Zakaria related, which they could not possibly look less related. Yes. It's very much like that old Simpsons joke about whether Homer Simpson is related to Richard Nixon, and, well, they spell and pronounce their names differently. The Odyssey joke could have worked, but I flubbed the delivery. I agree. I agree. I agree. I blame the joke as pride, which was also kind of the lesson of the film The Odyssey. You're wrong. The reason that joke didn't work, I can tell you why that joke didn't work, because you said ominous, and for a second, we all thought, is ominous also a Greek god? I know. Obviously, you didn't. You're very intelligent, but I was definitely like, ominous, huh? My problem is I just don't watch movies. You didn't see The Odyssey? I haven't seen The Odyssey. Did I tell you that I have this thing about space movies? Yeah. All you do is hate watch space movies? No, no, no, no, no. I just. Well, there's a lot of other kind of movies that don't seem to sort of make you upset about your career, you know, profession. The Odyssey had very little space flight in it, as did the film Digger had very little space in it. I like to torture myself, and my kids will tell you that I enjoy watching a space movie just so I can get angry at the television and, like, throw things at it, because it's like, that violates the laws of physics right there. That'll never, ever happen. I'm going to be honest with you. The Odyssey did violate. That violates some of the laws of physics as well. Yeah, that's true. I think that's a good point. Let's see. I equated flying in a rocket to a ride at Disney, and I'm sorry. No, you are 100% accurate. Ha! You're 100% accurate. So, coming down from that roller coaster, we've all experienced it, right? And the very first time that you feel it, that is what it feels like when you go into space. But because the brain remembers that sensation, when you take your second time into space, your body knows what to expect, just like when you get on a roller coaster. When you get on a ride now, you know that that sensation is coming, and your body can adapt to it. And that's why your second time into space, you are probably going to be less sick than the first time. When you ride Space Mountain, are you kind of, like, rolling your eyes the whole time? No. So, here's the thing. My wife loves Space Mountain. That's her favorite roller coaster, and I just absolutely love it. I mean, at some point, it's going to, like, probably give me whiplash, because it's a pretty vicious ride, but I've always loved it. In fact, I loved it back when it had. It was the, what was the name of the movie that was a precursor to Space Mountain? It was, they were going into a, it was called, I think it was called The Black Hole. Yeah, The Black Hole. Yeah, The Black Hole, the movie. That one had 100% accurate physics. Well, I was a kid at the time, and I really enjoyed, I mean, these people were, like, heading into Black Hole. So, that was the theme around the original Space Mountain, but I love all the improvements. I wasn't real wild when they had, like, the Star Wars theme to it. So, I'm glad they changed that out of there. Yeah, you know what? We have, we simply must move on, but it is, it offends me in a deep way that Epcot has introduced, like, Guardians of the Galaxy-style rides, like, fictional rides, when it's like, hey, hey, hey, this is Epcot, all right? Do we like it? Not that much, but we come, and we see science, and it's not as exciting as what happens over there at Disney, you know, the Magic Kingdom, but we learn about something. We see the plants, and we sit in a little ride, and it's the quiet day where you see figment, and you learn about. whether you're going to go underwater or into the space or into the desert. And now it's like, why am I seeing Rocky the fucking Wreck? cocoon at Epcot. That's just another place. They got the, they got the, the, the, the, you know what I'm saying? John, you would make a, you would make a great astronaut because I feel the exact same way. It's a UN based theme park. That's what it's supposed to be. And the main hero should be Boutros Boutros Ghali. Yeah. Boutros Boutros Ghali. That's exactly right. Hey, I'm sorry I said ripping ass to you, to a man who has been to space. It's all good. It's all good. You kind of dodged the question, but that's okay. And then about the ripping ass, you kind of answered, but I think some of them linger. I think that in reading between the lines, I think they linger up there a little bit. No, no, actually they don't. I mean, so here's the thing. Science is amazing. So here's the thing. So on space, on the, on the space shuttle, um, I never remembered because I flew with, you know, seven guys on one mission. So seven of all of us together and, you know, it's a pretty small compartment, the, the space shuttle. And not one time did I hear, or smell anything foul. And, you know, you, you can't put seven guys in a room, you know, for, for, for 30 seconds, Ben, they're like, who is that now? Don't you understand? This is why people think that the earth is flat. NASA lies like this. You've never smelled one fart in a shuttle with seven men, seven adult men in space, not one goddamn fart. No, no, no. So, so when you got the whiff was when the WCS, the waste containment system was full when, you know, you go buy that thing at near the end of the mission, whoo, you go buy that thing. And it, it smelled like, uh, it smelled like an outhouse at Coachella and you know, an outhouse. And Moshe, I do want to apologize because I went from saying, uh, from, from the, I went from the enlightenment of life-threatening illness to, so you were on the pit. Well, they deal with the, they deal with the enlightenment of life-threatening illness all the time. They do that all the time. Um, the, my only regret is that this show must end. This is our show. Thank you so much to Moshe Kosher and Danny Olivas. There are 20 days until the midterms. We'll be back Friday with Ben Feldman and Dusty Slay, and we'll see you next time. Love It or Leave It is a Crooked Media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, Bill McGrath, Kelsey Gante, and me, John Lovett. Our production team includes Hallie Kiefer, Sarah Lazarus, Raman Borsalino, Peter Miller, David Tolles, Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Raul Calderon, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGroote. And our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East. Hey, everyone. I love making our shows with the smart, creative people who work here and hearing from all of you who listen every week. But the thing that I'm proudest of is that video we made of Yvette Gromaswamy grunting while hitting baseballs. No, wait, sorry. Just this year, our listeners have raised millions of dollars and filled thousands of volunteer shifts to help candidates and causes in the 2026 midterms. And we have no plans to slow down as we head into 2028. Your subscription helps us keep making the shows you love and building a media company that doesn't just talk politics, but helps people change them. Head to crooked.com slash friends today to learn more and become a subscriber.