Season 1: Episode 7 - Bathwater, Jess, and a tonne of Nocebo

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Caen nhw, tranblau, y warthu fi deuxi udzewn. Mae'n nadeaf m this completely chirping. Mae'n gwaithio. Mae'n gwaithio. Mae'n gwaithio. Mae'n gwaithio. Mae'n gwaithio. kind of putting causation because of correlation when every time I have a bath it's right now at my energy level so that costs me too much energy to have a bath but I need to because it makes me feel. and then you get stuck in this vicious cycle where if we just go like when you first come to the studio I'm like right I won't swap out all your hot baths for cold showers and you're like what? What? What? Oh my god if we start and I go that's what you're doing and you're like oh shit and then I remember your email was like oh shit I'm still conscious and I'm about to see and I actually feel like I have more energy after cold shower yeah it takes a while to get used to but it changed your life and it's relatively free it comes out the shower head but it's cheaper than hot water yeah so maybe it's been in you know 10s of pounds every month by and epsom solves magnesium supplements and shake like that yeah I still haven't managed to convince my husband to find you what kind of one do you just keep flushing the toilet rallies in there just bring my side I can have the hooles how we do for those difficult riots yeah you've come hell of a long way since then it's a worry and now Jess uh I don't think about paying anymore don't think about fatigue anymore do you have pain? uh I have pain occasionally like every of the normal person on the planet because you pain if you injure something or yeah or if I'm stressed I might feel a bit tense or sorry my back um just put just normal pain put normal like everybody gets you know pain we can't get rid of pain altogether because we wouldn't last very long it's like kind of like general out or jazzy you know but you wouldn't be in you wouldn't listen to podcast anyway because you wouldn't experience pain think a lot of people kind of when they're trying to recover they kind of need to understand what normal is everybody gets a little random niggles I mean we're prone to things like sour echo because you know I mean we haven't fully evolved completely to what they're right you know what I mean with with that side you know gets affected you mean the way our sinuses are positioned are more positioned for you know it's being quadrupeds they don't dream correctly if you need to understand that if you can get through the deal it's not being in pain and yeah you might be a little bit tired at the end of the day especially if you start pushing past 40 then that's just a totally normal part of being a human it's when that shit becomes chronic is when it becomes an issue when it's pain all of the time and people need to understand that people pick up random niggles I mean if you look at me I think when was that time I had pain I had when I got really stressed out not to let go and I got a little headache for a day and then that quickly went and I was fine and then I think six months before that I picked up tendonitis in my elbow for a couple of months when I moved 80 desks inside of the old studio flights of stairs well you do refuse help yeah do you know what I'm not about do it myself I think before that it was probably about two years I had a little niggly back for a week and I think that was just from changing my mattress if I'm honest but apart from that pain for all of the time apart from the random shit that you'll pick up maybe playing sports or that time I did that insanity DVD which is horrific by the way if anybody ever think of doing that when my knee was niggly for a week but then it quickly went people need to understand what normal is people pick up random little niggly injuries it's just probably being human yeah I went from needing 40 minutes to get from the living room to bed I only live in a three bedroom terrace house it's not a mansion it shouldn't need 40 minutes to be vorimett you to once I'd finished with you I took my niece to the soft place and chased her around it for five hours felt my thing I was totally fine I met Jim Boyer husband who used to leave you pat on him just didn't leave you by the side of your bed yeah who's going to get downstairs yeah if he was because he works away if he was going out to work for the night there was a chance I wouldn't be able to go downstairs and feed him water myself so he'd leave me a flask of tea sandwiches and then my mum would come after come round and she'd check on me and make sure I didn't need anything else because when we applied the framework to you when you did your programme a lot of that was a lot of dismantling all of the leaves around the fears because you had a shit ton of misinformation and receivables that you'd been told especially I remember explaining how well how hyperbolic works and hyperlaxid and how the fact that that tissue is a little bit lax in those joints isn't necessarily the be-all and end all because it's more about the proprioception confusion where your brain doesn't really know where the joints are and if we can just show it where the joints are it can stabilise a lot better and then I remember when we covered over the microtromas and how it's not exactly how it works and the relief on your fears is you're like so I'm not dying constantly when I'm walking and I was like no and then when we started introducing a bit of movement and as I remember the first time you ever did any deadlift and I was like right you can pick that up and you were like no you can't I'll die so you won't die but we did a lot of inputs into the nervous system to help you kind of relax bit of information to only have things worked so that when you went to do it again it wasn't as fear driven and then little by little you start to do more and you were like oh you shit I didn't die and as we pushed through more a lot of the tactile cue work we did with your knees and stuff and once you start kind of freaking out a lot of the time with it and you started to not be in as much pain yep and just all sort of like I call it the inertia effect as well once you build that momentum it's like a snowball going down a snowy hill and you get to look at easier and easier until we hit that nice full recovery I mean it's nice when you're client Laura when you got home recovered and we all went trampoline that was a very late session that was an awesome session or even just to well not only just to see Laura trampoline and feeling you know I mean fine and not in pain or erect and because she was a little bit kind of social anxious as well wasn't she? yeah but it was nice to see you jump around as well that was that was good and if you'd known me about 10 years ago I'd well more 15 years ago I got my own trampoline for the garden used it once almost in agony I never touched it ever again well what hit me quite hard was a couple of months ago when I sat down talking to Johnny and Adam but and Johnny was it Johnny says does it not feel weird Adam? no that's not that was it so he says it's weird Adam to feel that I'm going to be somebody else's Adam and I was like what? because it's all these people like you've helped with covered you know gluten, meat, jazz and header and then you're like you're our Adam and then for like Johnny's recovery's out come out of Edinburgh and yours and headers they're all your guys' recoveries this is it weird I thought I never really thought about that yeah you have to be somebody else's Adam but it's nice how quite enjoyed taking a little step back and watching all you guys kind of do your own stuff because after this all very long time I'm quite I mean my last holiday was 2014 I was just a quick track I don't know maybe just have a lie in once every so often yeah if you if you're brain normal are you that well I've stopped waking up half as far away you know so that's been a big plus but the deer seemed much shorter the week seems really quick I mean it's what it's probably a Friday to do isn't it and like you know I have no idea what deer this is all time anymore now but yeah well thanks for coming in Jess and thank you for going through a little bit of your story if there's anybody listening is there any particular things out of it that or particular things from your story that you would like to complete it to the people oh well yeah well when I was told I had arthritis um we asked you yeah we asked you to have arthritis osteoarthritis which wasn't actually proven it was a possibility they needed to do further tests that was something I wasn't told at the time either however yeah it's nice isn't it but even if I did have osteoarthritis it wouldn't it doesn't mean to say it mean well it's the pain yeah so a few years ago they did a study that took four and a half thousand people some of them had hit pain some of them didn't and what they found was 80% of people with hit pain had no osteoarthritis whatsoever 85% of the people with osteoarthritis had no hit pain so the level of osteoarthritis and the level pain in nowhere correlated yeah it's lived in a shift term with knees or you know we find as people with osteoarthritis of the knees the more pain people have so if you take just people with osteoarthritis and you image them generally the people who say they have the least amount of pain have the most in generation and the people with the most amount of pain are the least in generation and you know people who have osteoarthritis and have no pain some who do because and especially you will know after all our training and stuff together pain is complicated and it's never just one thing it's extremely complicated it's a mixture of different biological factors and psychological and social you know time plays a part of it and people need to understand that how their feel is in that adequate representation of what's going on in the body and even if there is osteoarthritis in the body then that doesn't really mean anything in a big term yet it might be a kind of mutant factor in a very several cases it's missle it's a misnomer isn't it osteoarthritis osteoarthritis means bone, after means joint, asus means inflammation and osteoarthritis. o'r y bu'r amser, o'r llygrheni ymdyn ni'n fwy a'r ymdyn i'n gwybod. Llydd, a ni'n gwybod yma'r gweith o'r llygrheni dgymraedd yn yna. Mae'n gweith o'r llygrheni ddyn ni'n gwybod yn yna. Mae'r gweith o'r llygrheni ddol yna'n yna. Mae'n gweith o'r llygrheni ddol yna'n gweith o'r llygrheni ddol yna. Mae'n gweith o'r llygrheni ddol yna. Mae'n gwybod o'r llygrheni ddol yna. Mae'n gweith o 2016. Mae'n gweith o 2016. Mae'n gweith o 2016.