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Valid for select football transactions on the platform for which it's been issued. Terms at dkng.co/offer. Limited time offer. Nationwide based on sports book predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability. Fairies by state. Limited time offer. The NFL season has started and that means our friend Willie Cologne joins us. He has quite the resume now. Our guy co-host of the Barton Willie show, Bart Scott. They get a podcast that is out now. Two guys opinionated. Ready to go. He's on good morning. Football with the SPN. He's doing SNY pre and post on the jets and he's also doing Steelers Radio, man. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Are you getting divorced? You've worried about alimony or what? Man, if you ain't working, you dying. So I'll be trying to stay alive in this media business, man. I'm trying to get like you one day. Trying to get a plaque and my name on a plaque. Trying to be, you know, I just want to be, I have a place at the table Ryan, that's all. Well, I appreciate that. I don't know if it's going to be one place that, you know, I'm a little I'm a little kawaiish except for the illegal part. Well, I just, you know, like, hey, how was, what would Rasilla, what was his hat be? And I'm like, I don't know. I really don't know. All right, headline for me in last night's game. I think New England pissed it away. Your thoughts. Who did they piss it away? Um, I don't know if they pissed it away or see out of defense. It's just that much, it's that dominant and that much better than collectively to see off to that much better than the past. I thought, you know, there was a lot of talk. I was listening to somebody talk this morning about the game and how Drake made play and they felt like he didn't make any like pro quarterback type throws. It was like a very high school thing like a scheme, if you will, like he was, like, they rolled him out, you know, they let him throw the swing passes and I was like, yeah, that's because Seattle wasn't giving them anything. They let him get everything. Yeah, whatever was underneath, they was going to let him have. But if he threw the ball deep, which was 15 plus, they were going to be all over and they were. And so I thought, I thought, you know, for the most part early in the game, I thought the past did a fair enough job of combat and some of that past Russian and that pressure. Um, but then in the second half, he stopped, well, that's what really killed him too. The past and the second half Drake stopped using his legs. And when he wasn't able to use his legs, it just, they kind of, everything started falling apart. And I know a lot of people are dragging Romeo dog right now for the way he played in that game. Rightfully so you got it, you got to make those sketches, especially because after that big drop, he had Drake throws the interception, Julian love picks it off and it just, it starts to snowball from there. But I got the Seahawks, which is the tougher more riddy or team and they were prepared to take the paths of deep water. And they just got away from. Yeah, and I don't mean that by like any indication of not respecting the Seahawks defense, considering to who they were missing in the secondary, the turn over last year in the secondary, uh, to go ahead and have that kind of performance. But I feel like if Sam Donnell goes down after the first series and Drew Locke comes in, who no one is afraid of, you're in the game and then you have three interceptions in the fourth quarter like that. That's one that's a little tougher, you know, it's, I just would feel like, hey, we weren't ready tonight, but Donnell was out of the game and we ain't a blow on a tenel lead, you know. Yeah, I think there was, I tweeted this too. I thought if they would have had true, to Davey on Henderson, they would have been a lot better. Because I think the goal was for them to be able to run the ball. And with having Henderson, they would have been able to get out in space and operate a lot better. I think anytime you have, you know, when Ramon Day was fine, I thought he, he did what he could. I thought he was tough. Um, he had a couple of catches out of the backfield, but I think overall it came down to Drake and my eyes not being able to use his legs in the second half because his ability in the first half to use his legs was what kept the Patriots on schedule and on time. When that stop happening, then, you know, he started, all right. Well, what do we have? Ajay Brown goes down with the ankle. Dobbs is not catching the ball well. All right, they're, they're kind of loading the box. Things started to shrink for them. You start to see time at the time. And you know, I think for him being a quarterback coming off the year he had last year, you know, he's still, he's, he's, he trusts those guys out there. You know, he, when he threw that one ball of Dobbs, he's like, man, I, I know I have a guy that can go up and get the ball. And with Dobbs is good. I catch him the ball at the high point. Um, and it just got away from him. So I, I, I don't, I don't think Drake maize. I think people were talking about, you know, last year with Fools goal because the schedule was bad and not even, excuse me, the schedule was weak. And, and this year's schedule is going to be a lot harder. Rightfully. So I still think he's a damn quarterback. You know, I mean, I still think he's worthy of being up there in the top 10. Um, yesterday just turned out to be a bad out of him at the infirmary. Yeah, we go over the picks. You can say, okay, the deep shot to Dobbs, like he's expecting him to win. Although it's, it's, it's a dangerous throw because the safety's there. Right. And with the ball being up in the air, like the safety is at least going to get back into the play and the coverage of still desung. So that's a, that's a risky one, you know, the lesser court. Yeah, if there's a, if it's a lesser quarterback, we're like, come on, man, you got to be better. It's here five or something like that. And with May, our expectation is like, he was just so good last year. Um, the next one felt like frustration, maybe because of the previous one trying to get it in there. And then I know he's the third one. Go ahead. We have to put you off our apologize. No, go. I think the pick by Julian love was a set up. I think they kept pressuring him and pressuring him and he, he just looked it through and then it boom, he just let it rip and Julian love was a sit here. They were playing a lot of cloud coverage too. So I think between the blitz cloud coverage, you know, I, you got to be prepped to Brian Murphy and Big Cat, Linda Williams and those guys, man, they were mixing it up on front. So I think, I think you started to get hot for them. And I think he's like, man, I got to make, I got to get this, I got to get this ball out in on time. And Julian love was just sitting forward, sitting right there for it. So I think he was maybe seeing more than what was actually happening on the play. Yeah, the last one he said, hey, I was trying to throw it away. But then I saw columns over there. I'd say you're like, all right, I mean, I still can't believe Seattle State and bounds on that one. Just an incredible interception on the night. Speaking of your boy, Murphy, who I love that rep against the center, Jared Wilson, what, what happens? I mean, look, sometimes you just lose the snap, but it's, it's crazy when a detackle looks like Nick Bonito against you. Man, it's, I've been in that position, though, like I had, who was, what was his name? I forgot his name, but this sometimes where God just beats you so fast and you just turn into ice, you just freeze because you don't know what the hell just happened. You just get worked so fast. You just like, oh, it's almost like you didn't even get off the ball. And I think if Brian Murphy is a dog, I can hear him listen, when he was in Texas, he was a dog. He's starting to emerge. And I think yesterday, man, he just, he started clapping some cheeks out there. He just thought it, he started beating it. Them boys up in the interior of that line and I like, you know, I'm a fan of Baratuck and I'm a new fan of Mike Honwondo right guard. But every time man, where if Drake didn't escape that pocket, they would have had a lot more sex. I think in the Super Bowl, they gave him six acts and Drake doesn't use his legs early in that game. It could have gotten close to that again. I mean, these guys started coming down here and working moves. And man, when you just got to, when you get a beat on it, when a guy gets a beat on you that fast, I mean, you just, you just can't wait till the next play happens so you can forget about it. So let's talk about that offensive line match up for New England against what you saw from the D line of the Seahawks, because I think, you know, coming into the shoe, you're like, all right, it's Campbell going to be the guy. They spend a top pick on another tackle. So what does that mean, like down the road? I think over the course of the night, like I was trying to watch like left side, right side. I felt better about the left side. Maybe it was more Moses at right tackle, but what is it about Seattle and what they're doing up there? Where, like, you want to, I wouldn't, I wouldn't leave last night's game being like, man, the past O line got worked. I'm not, I'm not saying that. I thought they looked better. Yeah. I think the left side looked better, like, certainly, especially with what it looked like the last time we had seen them play. So let's kind of dig into kind of what you saw from that match up. Well, I thought the, I thought it was going to be a black and blue game, a fun booth fight. And I think that's what we saw early. And then I think they realized, man, if we can start running games, many T.E. stunts, E.T. stunts, you know, some sloppy dog getting guys in different levels, then we can get, we can actually get to Drake main. I think after a while, that once they started to see the pocket get chewed up a little bit. And then also you got to give credit to those guys on the back end. They were playing things so tightly. Drake kind of had to sit in there a little bit and hold the ball just so, you know, he can, you know, deliver it. But nevertheless, man, I think when you have a d-line, who's athletic, who's stout, who's actually, you know, I think all of them kind of pride themselves at playing, being bullies at their position. You know, for an office line, I've always felt like this, especially when you go against, get all defensive lines. You have to match the defensive line intended. You make going to it with what you want to do and how you want to run the ball and how you want to protect and slide and all this other stuff. But if you start seeing guys start, you know, revving up their intensity, you as office line have to dig hard and get rid of you. And that means, man, not only on slot, petition going for guys ribs, or dumping a guy, or just playing a little above after the whistle to let them know that this is going to be a cake wall. That's, that neutralizes a lot of that because listen, those guys get tired and they don't want to get banged around in it. They just want to find different levels where they can attack, work in the edge and get to quarterback. And so I've always been to mindset where you see a D line, get chippy and start doing things or feeling like they can do whatever you want. You got to up your intensity. And I think that's one thing that the past struggle with later in that game. Who is your super bowl pick for this year? Man, I'm, I'm, I'm going to Cowboys for the NFC. I say that. Sorry about that, Ryan. No, no, we love it. Tell her to come back. We want her super bowl pick too. Sorry about that. I'm, this is a Ryan with a little show. Are you doing what are you doing? I'm sorry. Totally politics. My wife's so out of pocket. No, don't apologize. Like, what do you think you do? You think I'm just here talking to a random white man? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. So you were saying Trump's policies that you've coming around on. He was saying what? No, um, yeah, no, so my super bowl pick I'm going with. I'm going with the Cowboys and charges, man. Cowboys. Oh, wow. I love this. You're like usually people get dangerous on one side. You're really going for it. I think I think her bitches do. And I like the fact that Mike, me, Dan, you stepped into that situation and said, all right. All of us in line stay healthy and we get the ball out of your hand a lot faster. We work on your foot mechanics. We get you a run game on Marin Hampton is going to be healthy. We can do some things that the people forget and maybe you could back me up on this run. Like Miami, under my name, they ran the ball pretty damn well. They weren't, they weren't a bad rushing team. They were, they, they ran the ball efficiently. So if you give Justin Herbert who I know a lot of people's like, Willie's. Oh, what? But oh, oh for three, oh for four in the playoffs. Enough is enough. You know, I mean, like, why do we keep putting this guy on the pedestal? Cause a kid has he's tough, he's tough. He could deliver the football. There's nothing he can't do on the football field from the quarterback position and my eyes. So now if you give him a healthy office line and OC who is, you know, what did you like? The corkiness or his, his, his at times being a centric. I think he's a brilliant mind. And so I'm just a fan of what, what the possibilities can be. And I think the defense is better, especially on the defense of line. And I just feel like they're due and I think I actually have the charges winning the division. And so that's, that's just where I'm at. And the Cowboys, I think listen man, Dak is filthy. I actually have Dak as a, as my MVP next year, I think he's going to be that filthy. And with pick ins and CD and a whole game, obviously a lot, you know, Christian Parker with the, as the new defense quarter for the Cowboys, I think they're going to be a lot better. And so I know I just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm giddy about the Cowboys. I'm giddy about the charges. So that's where I'm right. Love it. I'm with you on Herbert, but I don't even want to argue about it anymore. I just like, okay, fine. It doesn't make sense to people when they thought it's like, yeah, he could throw. I'm 10,000 yards, but can't get it done in the playoffs. I'm like, the man, the man has to shoulder all that to the play. I think last year we watched us do pick itself off the mat a million times. I still get the job done late in games. So I'm, I'm just a fan of the dude, man. And I know some people get annoyed with that because he has, he doesn't produce. When, you know, when it's go time meeting the playoffs and it is what it is. But I think next year he's due and I think my midday is going to be a big game changer for them. No, people bitch about Josh Allen's playoffs. They're going to bitch about Herbert's. So that's, it's just kind of what I've learned. I mean, it's, you sit there and you get an argument about it. We don't need to rehash all of it. But like, let's talk about maybe, and I'm kind of putting you on spot here a little bit, but like, if you look at Herbert last year or 30% ratio rate, basically, I think it's like 29.7. It's highest in the NFL. All right. So he loses later, he loses all who are studs. Okay. And then I watch that playoff game against New England. I'm like, you know, I think one of my things about offensive lines is that I was just so spoiled by watching Brady every weekend for 20 years that when he knew he wasn't going to win like the protection game, he then adjusted to it, which is like, to me, the top tier of like quarterbacking where you go, hey, we don't have it today, you know, they've kind of got us, I'm going to have to solve this on my own. And we're going to have to cut off our routes. We're going to have to do all these things like I am not going to have the normal amount of time. So now I'm going to help out my offensive line. To me, that is like the epitome of, are you one of those truly special players? And it's not about throws and completion percentage and touchdowns. It's like, okay, Herbert is not that, you know, very few people are that. And so I wonder if an entire season going like, I've got no chance with, with all of our guys out. And it starts to make you play that like, I don't think he had some good games like some of these Josh Allen playoff losses. I'm like, they gave a 40 points guys. Like, what are we doing here with Herbert? He didn't have a good game at all. But I think I can see him going, this has been months of this now. And I'm, I'm just not comfortable back here. And I wonder like what that's like, like, I'm not calling out like your offensive line groups. But have you had maybe a quarterback where you could tell like, hey, we've got you now. Like we're good on the protection. I, whatever you've been dealing with the last month, like we're going to be better now. And it's maybe sort of a hard habit for a quarterback to get out of when they felt like they've been sped up week after week back there. Yes, it's different, man. I, earning a quarterback's trust is fragile because to your point, sometimes you feel like, man, I know it'd been, and that's what like, you know, that's the best quarterback I've ever played with. If he felt like we didn't have the best day up front, we weren't having the best day up front. You, he would improv, he would improvise a lot, right? He would look to get out of the pocket. He knew he was going to get hits, get hits. So he would, he would do things as far as like, take the blow, give a guy, get legs, scrambled. Like he knew how to extend the plate. The beauty of him too is that the first guy wasn't going to get him exactly, which is ridiculous. It's just like, I remember one time in, we were playing Baltimore, T-subs literally had him did the rights wrapped up, and T-subs is actually, you know, T-subs is a big man. Like meaning to real such that is. K-K-T-subs, literally had wrapped up, and I watched Ben somehow turn into Gumbie, like his body just went limp, and T-subs slid down his leg, and he picked his leg up out of T-sizzle's arms, and like scrambled out. And I'm like, only one man in league do that. I mean, and Ben is not like a, he's not a, a wiry guy, you know what I mean, he's not like a Lamar Jackson frame, or one of those skinny guys who can give you a little bit. He's a thick boy, a thick country boy, and so he just had that knack of being able to take us, like, fill us out, and then get out of it, stiff arm, or whatever, but as far as earning, you know, earning his trust, that's why I always think it's pivotal for guys. And I think the pictures did a little bit last night, like, letting the boys up front and pose their will with running the ball, right, like kind of getting it out, because there's so much we have to see from office line standpoint, safety rotation, we're looking at the D lineman's cleats, we're looking at the depth of the linebackers, we're looking at pressure on the outside, so sometimes right out the the gate, man, we're looking at so much. It takes us a little bit to kind of just tighten our scope and calm down. And I think that's what Josh McDaniel's trying to do with Drake May is, as much as you want to get you comfortable, we got to get those boys up that new five comfortable, too, because they have passed trauma for what happened in Super Bowl, all right? So they understand that these boys can get after them. So getting Drake May out the pocket, roll outs, doing different things where you use as athleticism, I thought was more to calm down the office in line. I think a lot of times for a quarterback, if you feel when your office line is comfortable because they are aggressive earlier, they're not trying to feel things out. They're willing to be more on their attack, and they're communicating a lot better. So if you feel like, all right, these boys are using, they're punching first, they're first at the attack. Now I can sit in here, because I know they're more quick to fight instead of feeling, because you can see when guys are kind of fit themselves through pass blocking, right? They're a little soft on the edge. They get out there, set a little soft. They're not explosive right away. So they kind of kind of feel the tempo of the rush. And I think one way to gain the trust of a quarterback, especially early in games, man, is let them boys get up the football, let them use their will. Let's get a little mixed direction. Wish the pitch, Patriots did in the first half, but they kind of got away with it. But I think for Justin Herbert, just to pivot back, I think a lot of what we saw last year until you're going to use the great word was trauma. I think he just, he showed us so much early in the regular season. And when he got to the playoffs and the things got a little high, he was like, man, I don't know what's going on. You know, you just kind of all over the place. And just most is unfortunate, he took the L. All right, let's make you popular with Steelers Radio. Let's run to the A of C. And I'm going to go to the teams and you tell me who the Steelers are better than, all right? All of them, Brian. All of them. So you're going to fit in perfect. They still wonder what happened to Kenny Pickett in that market. That preseason game, man. Ready, ready, ready to retire his number. All right, Buffalo. No, it ain't up off. All right, all right, we go for those New England. Yeah, I did the better. You think that's first back of the New England. Okay, yeah, I think, I think I think our front seven defensively has a chance to be very special, especially we can't, I mean, patchy Graham, my defensive coordinator, his goal this season is to have Nick Herbig, TJ Watt, and how I had, I had his harassment on the field at the same time. And so if you got three ninjas out there, only good things are going to happen. Now, a secondary, we still got a lot to figure out. We're trying a little soft in the secondary, especially from an injury standpoint. But I think our front seven could be pretty special for sure. Yeah, I was listening to a Cam Hayward the other day. And he was talking about her big. And I'm like, I feel like he's nasty and doesn't get talked about enough. Am I, am I lost a bird? Yeah, that's what I'm, I'm point like, yeah, you know, it's just a very, it's a really hard thing to keep on top of every team's depth chart, you know, but there are, there's certain guys like Cooper with Green Bay, who I remember from A&M, but like, there's certain guys that send a game. You're like, wait a minute. Like what's going on over here? And I feel like Herbig's always kind of that guy whenever I'm watching this Taylor's game. Yeah, he pops off the tape. And there's, and when you watch him, and I, and I had the opportunity to see him a little bit in training camp, he wants to smoke. It like there's, there's guys who want to go out there and look flashy and kind of do their one, two and get to the quarterback and do their dance. This guy wants it all. He wants to smoke. He's not afraid to be aggressive. He's not afraid to work moves. He's, he's always looking for the edge. His ability to track the football is awesome. I just love his demeanor too. Like there's a demeanor. There's an energy that he exudes that I think complements TJ and Alex. And, you know, he's no longer kind of this, he's no longer a secret. I think if you put on tapes, especially from last year, man, the way he operates when he's in the game, I think he just pops off the tape. So I'm, I'm excited for him. And I mean, I'm excited for the game overall, but he's one God because they did pay him in all season. I'm excited to see how he responds to that. Okay. All right. So better than New England. Let's keep going to the divisions here Cincinnati. I think they're better than Cincinnati. I mean, I know who the Bengals are offensively. We know they can light up the school board defensively. I know you got debts to Lawrence and you have Jonathan Allen. Maybe you, you require some other guys on the back end, but you just want to prove it to me. Can Herbert, I mean, excuse me, can Burrow stay healthy? I think office align is still in question. I'm just, let's, I just get frustrated that the Bengals continue to somehow leap from the Steelers solar because we got a 42 year old quarterback. But we have a quarterback and Joe Bird. I can't stay healthy. I think there's, I think I still get it. I don't know how Zack Taylor, by the way, continues to not get any scrutiny as far as being in the hot sea, right? Like to me, this is more of a pivotal year than ever because, you know, if Joe Burrow gets hurt, well, there's no excuse for you not to continue to try to, to win games because you do supposedly have a defense, right? Like you have a defense now. And so I think, you know, the pressure should be on Zack Taylor to get it done with it without Joe Burrow. I mean, you have everything you need in my eyes or you have a upgrade from everything you've had is way different from what you had in the past. Don't think we need to ask about Cleveland, although I like some of these weapons, let me honestly, for Cleveland Baltimore, he was always scrappy good. I always want to put up a fight. There was a stretch there where I think I liked their offensive line as much as like anybody. And then it just didn't matter, you know, it was this like really good group. And then you go, okay, and then you look at the defensive numbers last year. And you're like, do you realize how nasty this defense was? Yeah, I would, you know, the lot, there's a lot of rounding up with some of the young receivers, but I like their tight end. I like the running backs, the offensive line of Gipri work. And I think, again, everybody's, you're going to have a lot of quarterbacks playing games there, our pitch Pittsburgh. Go ahead. Now, actually a quick question about their quarterbacks. It's the situation between Shadour and the Sean Watson. You do, do you think the Sean Watson was placed on Todd Munkett? Like, did you think Todd Munkett, like, I want to go with Shadour and maybe the powers to be like, no, we're paying the Sean Watson. We want to get something out of the Sean Watson. I don't think Shadour was any good last year, but I think that the owner was like, this fucking guy's playing like we're going to give it one more shot to see if there's any good battle for what's the whole back and forth? Like if that's going to be the end all be all, this is why Cleveland fans are frustrated. If that's where you're going and listen, right wrong and different. If you're going to pull the ultimate Trump card, like, no, we're playing the Sean Watson. He's healthy enough. He's our guy. Then move forward because from an offensive standpoint, when you know who the guy is, you start to, I mean, as an offense line, if I know if the Sean Watson's my guy, I want to, I want as many reps with him as possible from a cadence standpoint. High things, what he's looking at, like, there's things we have to start building up so we can be effective when the seasons starts, rather than go through this kind of distraction of like, well, who do you feel more comfortable with out there? Shadour Sanders or the Sean Watson because that's what those guys, that's what that offense line is being asked in that locker room, what do you feel comfortable with? And it's a distraction, eliminate the distraction to just say, Hey, the Sean Watson's going to be your guy. Last move forward and boom, often run. If, if ultimately that's who you want, you want it to be your quarterback. Well, the Shadour thing brings its own issues because there's this entire online debate about who he is or who he is and I think there's a lot of people out there that seem to talk him up because they're like protective of the idea that he can actually be a real guy and he would have to get a lot better. I'm guilty of that. To me, he has to get a lot better. He has to get a lot better for us to say, like, okay, like we're going to, you know, looks, there's plenty of quarterbacks that have these disastrous, rookie years and then they make that jump. I don't know. Like, you didn't spend a first round around them. So that's kind of just the way the league works. Where if you're not spending a first round around them, you're not going to get, like, I was looking at the other day, Zach Wilson, his 33 career starts. I couldn't believe that number. Well, why does he have that many career starts? Because like, we got to make sure this guy actually stinks. We've got to keep rolling them out there and make sure because we spent this insanely high draft, I'm coming to just these things. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And he's on a roster again because somebody else had a good grade on him coming out. So unfortunately for Shador, when you drafted that late, I still can't believe they took Gabriel as high as they did. And then you have the Dishon part of it where you would think like anybody with any kind of look, he's, he's basically proven that he's not ever going to have any remorse. But like, why would you sit there and go at this fan base when you are arguably the worst transaction in the history of the league? Like even if you don't believe it, dude, fucking pretend, you know, just understand why. And like, I've been saying now for four years, like, I can't believe he's this bad. And I could use injury arguments and all these different things. It's been four years of me saying basically the same thing over and over again. So I have to give up. I have no expectations for him. But I can imagine just ownership cutting those checks, however, however, they're timed out and everything that he's done and that it was fully guaranteed. He's like, hey, guess what? We got to see like, he still owes me hours. So I think that's what happened. We got to get something out of this dude. Yeah. And I'm, I'm delusional enough to think like, what if he like put it together and kind of reminded us of why this happened for six weeks? And does that mean they think they can flip him for any sort of acid just so the owner goes like, oh, man, I was able to recover this distress. It's like, no, you didn't. Like you guaranteed every single dollar when the guy thought he was going to Atlanta for like 60 million less. So to the defensive Sean, and I, and I lost it when he came up. Like every player wants to be hugged by their families. - Yeah, but understand why, well, that's a, I'll leave that one alone. What, why can't he have somebody go, you just have to pretend you're bummed out about what's happened here. That's all you have to do. But Ryan, it's a lot more fragile for us. You know what I mean? When you get in slam in the media, when you get in slam by the beat riders, every time there's a person you, you know, you're encounter with somebody in the street is a very like, ugh, like you're that guy, you know what I mean? Like nothing's warm or welcoming. At the end of the day, you're a human being. Like it hurts. So I can understand like, man, I've been to multiple injuries. I understand that I haven't lived up to the paycheck. I understand that I was supposed to be the guy to deliver the browns from purgatory. I haven't delivered on that. But at the same day, I'm a human being. So I think he was just, he was vulnerable in a moment and laid it out there. I'm gonna tell you this happened to me one time. I was with the Pittsburgh Steelers and I was, Friday, you know, you get out of practice so I had to grab some things. And I walked up, I went into a Walmart to grab some stuff and I'm going down one of the aisles and his lady is old lady with a shopping cart. Is, you know, I'm thinking she's passing me as I'm going past her. She rams her shopping cart right into my stop me. So I'm thinking to, you know, the old bad is, you know, can't see you nothing. She, no, she was perfectly fine. She looks at me right at my eyes. She goes, are you willy-colon? And I'm like, yeah, man. She's like, can you please stop holding? I've been watching for so long. I think you're great. I think you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're tough. I think you do a good job protecting the, the off-size and the only. It's really a nauseating. Like it's, at some point, you know, I would have benched a long time ago just to send you a message. I'm having this conversation with this old lady in the middle of Walmart and I just say, you're right, man, I do a lot better, you know. She's like, you know, you guys, you guys got a chance to share. But, you know, it's particularly you. You need to be better. I have everybody. I think it's you. You just need to be better. And I'm saying, like, okay, lady, I got the first two points. Like, grab your flower, keep it pushing. Like, but she, she kind of held firm. She was holding up to the car. And my big ass, I can't, I can't bulldozer, right? Carimbers, you won the rep, though. She didn't get by you, right? It's so, it's like, I just had to sit there and kind of take this little three-minute lashing. And she just got scared along and I was just saying they're like, man, there's no longer, there's not a win. Because, well, it was crazy. I had just heard it from my coaches in the building, right? I heard it from my coaches. I'm listening to it on sports off radio. I'm hearing how I got to be better and stop home. I got to be better. Like, you got to tighten it up, we'll look along. And then the finisher was, you know, Margaret, you know, giving me the business in the Lord Martin and I was just like, okay, all right? It is what it is. This is the life of a pro. You got to get a suck it up and get better. So I, it's, I can understand his level of frustration to somebody great. - I understand that. But I think it's an entirely different bucket of his own doing. - Without, you know, but he's, again, he's not thinking about that stuff anymore. He's thinking about him being hurt. He's thinking about like, hey, I just agreed to the contract. And so I understand, but I just thought that last time that we get to hear from him, you're like, man, you're basically like letting the entire city know you want nothing to do with him. And it's, it's like, unfortunately, when you're in the public side of things, like you kind of have to figure some of that stuff out. All right, let's keep running through this. Pittsburgh's not better than Baltimore, right? - I'm always going to say that, but in Baltimore. You know, I'm going to be biased to the dead. I mean, this is just, even if the roster says different, if you feel like Jesse Menter, because of what he did with San Diego and his mindset, how he could re-vent recharge the Ravens fine, Declan Doyle being a new OC. There's this expectation that, you know, he's going to kind of be the whisperer to now the new Lamar Jackson. And I also think Lamar Jackson, there's been a lot of talk of visibility and not to run as much. I think he's just getting smarter. It's like, dude, I'm getting older. I'm worth more on the field and off the field. I can't take the hits like I used to. And so I'm just going to be, you know, try to be a lot more efficient in the pocket. I think the Ravens still have issues up front. I think they just lose their center. They had, I think their center is starting center just going down. I can be wrong with that. - Let's check down. - Yeah. So I think there's, I think there's issues on the office line that they're dealing with. But we'll see. So I'm better reserved a couple of weeks ago. - Yeah. - You could call. You've always on it. - All right, so how about the AFC South? Is anyone from that group better than Pittsburgh? Houston, Indy, Jacksonville, Tennessee? - Well, you can't say, I mean, the Texans put the boots to us and play off. So I got to kind of bend the knee in that regard. I do think we're better than the Colts. I do think we're better than the Jaguars. - Yeah, who else will win my missing? - Tennessee, I think we could, we're good there. - Yeah, sure. - I mean, I'm just trying to figure out, like right now we've got the Steelers as a three seed. So that means if you have. - The biggest knock on the Steelers is the fact that they're age-shaming Aaron Rodgers. That's all it is. - It's age-shaming? He's 42 years old, but the man who's still willing to do it. Do you think Aaron Rodgers doesn't have the arm anymore? Do you think that? - I thought he was bad last year. - You said he what? - I don't, how did you think he was bad? - I think there's, I'm not comparing it to Russell Wilson, but you're gonna front, you know, front row seed to that. Russell Wilson, there were certain things that were no longer part of the catalog. And so he was gonna try to hack the game into like, I'm not gonna beat anybody in the red zone, you know what I mean? Like there's just things now that I'm not going to be able to do. When Russell Wilson was at his peak, and I'm expecting to do the peak at the end of his career, it was just these magical moments like he would, he would make these things happen. And I felt like last year with Rodgers, especially if you look at the air yard stuff, like he was last, like, I don't think he wants the ball up there. The escape ability isn't there to be expected. This stage of his career post Achilles, I, I think there's some throws and some efficiency stuff that kind of tricks you into thinking he had a good game. And I'd imagine if I were a defensive coordinator of game planning for it, I'd be like, you know what? We don't have to worry about a ton of stuff 'cause I think he's eliminated some of this stuff from his own game 'cause he knows that this is risky. Like he doesn't want to take this risk anymore. So I, look, it has to be a lot better. It has to be a lot better for the Steelers to be a real contender in the AFC because I don't think he was good in '25. - All right, so a couple of things. One, I do agree with you. He doesn't know, he's not taking the hits even more. So you get in the ball out really fast. And his five yards throws and this, you know, quick outs and all that stuff. I totally agree with you from that, from that standpoint. I do think people forget when he landed with the Pittsburgh Steelers, how bad that offense was under Arthur Smith. Like just from a, there was no ecosystem. There was no, like he, he masked a lot of deficiencies. They had decay, they didn't have a true number two. They thought it was gonna get something out of John Smith and never worked. And like there were, there were things that just didn't arrive further Steelers. So he had to, he had to make hay with what he had. I think, I think they didn't, you know what I'm saying? There's one point, couldn't run the ball unless they had six linemen on the field. So that hurts you too. When you're, when you're, when you're big five, can't get it done without bringing on an extra office lineman and they would treat him out Washington as an actual office lineman. So they then needed seven guys up front to get, get some type of run game going. So that, that kind of handed them on top of that. He said it out of his mouth. And I think some of those guys, if you listen to some of the, the clippings, the press clippings, a lot of those guys talked about like, man, they had to grow up from the neck up. You know, Air Rogers sees football from a PhD level. A lot of these guys are still stuck on high school football. So a lot of those guys had to just be a lot better behind the curtain as far as preparing for the game. What it means to be better at their job, being more detailed. He had to grow those guys up. And that all happened last year. And, you know, they were counting on Roman Wilson to be a guy. He, he struggled, right? They just couldn't trust him. They were counting on different, you know, they were trusting on Pat Fermill to be a lot better than he was. He struggled. So there were guys who were just kind of up and down. And Air Rogers kind of had to really make do what's getting with what he had. I think he's different this year because you do bring a Rico Donald and you do have a Michael Pintin as your number two. You have a Mount Washington sign of that. Fermill hopefully can be better next year this year. I think the addition to Jeremy Bernard, the kid they got out of Alabama is going to be money good for him. So what are they saying about him? Because he's one of my favorite players in college last year. Everything has advertised. Given the bull I'm watching work, he's one of the guys. The first guy's never going to take him down. He can be hell in the slot. He's the first guy to never take him down. No, yeah, the first guy never get it. And I watched it. I was covering the Steelers Bill's game and the preseason. I'm literally standing on my side line. The linebacker has a clear beat on him. He's flying right at him. He just sucks to do. Just kind of takes the blow and scores the touchdown. So he has that. But I like where the Steelers are at. And I like the fact that Aaron right now is a spicy Aaron Rodge. He's pissed off. There's nothing he's not willing to say. Because usually he's so chill. He doesn't have many thoughts on many things. I've noticed it a little bit more. Well, no. But this is the-- I think he's stepping it up a little. He goes, if I'm going to go out, I'm setting the whole place on fire. I kind of like that energy he's exuding. Because in his, I've watched him do-- Podcasts on Kate Cam hit with podcasts. I've seen them with different things and he goes I'm not I'm not I'm not buttoning anything up I'm gonna say what I have to say it's kind of like when that grandfather Christmas He's gonna tell everybody's business next to the Christmas tree and everyone's like well, you know grandpa Let's fight now. He's like no, I'm too old. I'm too old to care So I'm just gonna I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say and how you feel about is how you feel about it I like that any because it still is need that they need that kind of Chippy spicy like it is what it is From get some type energy and I'm a fan. I'm looking forward to subscribing to Aaron Rogers unsolved mysteries podcast in a couple years I don't think but I don't think we see him. I think he's gone. I think he's no way you're he needs to be heard from He loves his shit. That's why he goes on. I don't okay. I think he bro. I think he's gone I think we won't see I think he's no he's out of here. I think he's too opinionated to not want people to hear from him You I think he's over. I think this is the reason why he says it is. I think he wants to dump it all out on the table Give it to the people and I think he's off. We won't say it for a while into the mountains done big bearded Dolly dolly yep 3500. Yeah, I can respect that I'm not gonna ask you about the Jets. I'll do it next time. Okay. Kade club next starts week I like them in the precinct enough. Oh look out like though. I ain't just perked up a bit bro I ain't go bullshit. I like them. Some of them get moved. You know what it is? I liked about him quickly for a kid that young there was a there was a play in the precincts and against The Steelers he was backed up in the end zone and the Steelers are sent out of the dogs. He didn't flinch like he stood in there He went through his progression and actually hit his third hit his third receiver in the progression when no one he had the dogs coming out through and Most kids, I mean that hit at his stature and where he's at they'll try to get on the pocket and they'll do something Even kill just just went through it. I was like beware beware Kate I like it. Hey look go back to the august 25 mock drafts some places had him going number one overall you can use that on SNY Hey, there you go. I will kind of Rogers probably have that but I'll use I'll keep doing that Just a reminder The Barton Willie show that you know that's what's gonna get him the vacation house You're the man Willie. We'll talk to you soon. Oh, it was a pleasure brother. Thank you Guys the NFL season is finally here and if you're like me your Sunday revolves entirely around making sure you Don't miss a single snap of the action why let me yourself to one game on Sunday You should be in total command seeing every big play and every touchdown across the entire league right there On your big screen, but thank God for NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV it literally gets you every game every Sunday plus features like multi view so you can watch up to four games at once You can just lock in and watch the games unfold without missing a thing and get this for new users It's just eight payments of $30 a month stop stressing out and go sign up right now at youtube.com Forge slash NFL ST new users pay $240 or eight non-cancellable payments of $30 a month first charge of purchase availability varies With NFL Sunday ticket for out of market games and YouTube TV for local and national games YouTube TV required Terms in embargo supply device and content restrictions apply to multi view commercial use excluded no refunds Getting you ready for the NFL season with more of our favorite guests Ted win joins us now from the athletic His film breakdowns are legendary. He also has some awesome play call ranking stuff where he talks to the opposing side in the NFL So let's start at least with last night's game, okay, and just kind of what you saw I don't know that you can take a ton from it with Arnold being out the headline Honestly on like the Seattle side of this is that Even wore us out the other starting safeties out Bud Clark to second round from TCU's out Wolens gone Bryant's gone and yet they still shut down this Pat's offense This is about roster building. This is about defensive play calling, but that's a really impressive performance against Drake May with that limited Options or the limited options in the secondary Yeah, I mean my biggest takeaway was is Mike McDonald is one hell of a defensive coach and Completely outclass Josh McDaniels and and a Patriots again Like you mentioned the secondary is a completely different secondary than the one we saw in a Super Bowl Because of the injuries and Nick Mowory. It is such a huge part of what they do That missing him. I thought it would have a bigger impact But they were able to keep the explosive plays down last season the Patriots were the most explosive team in the league 13.6% explosive play rate Against the Seahawks in this game 6% explosive play rate So they couldn't create explosives. They were trying to get the ball underneath and create yards after catch They couldn't create any yard after catch as well I thought tackling would be an issue with all those backup dvs in But they were elite tackler. So they could not create any of yards as soon as a you know a tackler got to them And that was that was a big issue because their game plan was to get the ball out because of these blitzes and Hopefully a guy breaks a tackle, but nobody broke a tackle in the game And it was a big issue. So and also the like They had past protection issues in the Super Bowl because their scheme was a little too simplistic and Mike McDonald just blasted it with these these nickel blitzes And it was pretty much the same game plan as seven months ago in in the Super Bowl And it was just a huge issue. I mean on the interception where He threw the ball to Julian love or Drake made through the ball to Julian love It was third and a 14 and he had to keep seven into protection They had three guys running routes, which is why love was able to fall off and just pick off that ball. So For me, the takeaway is the Patriots just still haven't proven that they can perform against elite defense Yeah, that's something you had in one of your preview things on like storylines for every single team Can you put in a perspective what New England faced last year because we know it was like the historically one of these all-time easy schedules But specific to the lack of elite defenses that they played and then what happens when they play some of these top 10 defenses? Yeah, so they only played one One team that ranked in the top 10 of points allowed pre-drive and that was a Cleveland Browns in the regular season And they didn't perform very well against the Browns either But in the playoffs they played four teams that were in the top 10 in that category and they were basically What their stats stat to a rank is bottom the league in the regular season So they became an offense that was you know, it was like EPA like And points per drive. I think they would have been 30 second in the regular season based on their offensive profile through the playoffs Now the paths for him would be like yeah, you mean the the path like getting all the way to the Super Bowl But I guess I'm kind of staying on this is that there's these alarming numbers against better defenses for this offense And look we saw it last night we saw it throughout the playoffs and we just didn't see it because they didn't play any of them other than the Cleveland So keep going with your point because I I just wanted to clarify what some of those numbers were Yeah, and also I think it's a personnel issue which is why they tried to upgrade the wide receiver room with AJ Brown And Romeo dobs and dobs just couldn't get open yesterday and we we saw what happened To AJ Brown, but it's also a schematic issue. I think Josh McDaniels is a pretty good offensive coordinator But the protection scheme against really good defensive coordinators that know how to attack it That's going to be an issue and I thought they would have some better answers in you know, having all this time their pair But they didn't so it's something to watch out for when they actually play against these type of defenses in the future Okay Let's talk about Buffalo Houston this weekend How bad has the run support been for CJ throughout since he's come to the game Yeah, so he's never had a good running games entire career in Houston his rookie year They were ranked 25th in Russian success rate in 2024. They were bottom of league 32nd and last year they're ranked 30 So he's never had the help of a run game He's had some of the best of worst injury luck when it comes to his receivers that that's shown in the stats Wardshark had a stat for that and I think it was Near bottom of league every single year as well um, so he just hasn't had a lot of help and I think this year They did a really good job of just being intentional with trying to be a more physical team They draft a killing Rutledge in the first round. He's going to be I think he's going to play guard They had him kind of cross training at center as well But he adds physicality they traded traded for David Montgomery who Specifically is one of the most efficient runner when it comes to gap scheme type of runs. So he's a north and south guy So I think they're going to be a better running team. I think that's going to be one of the biggest questions For the for you know, that has implications on the whole Whole league because if Houston could run the ball. They're a legitimate Super Bowl contender Buffalo. What are you looking for for them? Um Last last um the last game they played in Houston. They were able to run the ball. James Cook had 143 yards on the ground. They just couldn't block Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. They just gave Josh Allen a ton of trouble So running the ball was the way that they were able to get some offense But in that game jalen peach tree who I think is one of the best nickel players in the league Didn't play and I think he adds a lot to that run defense They also drafted katie mcdonald in the second round which also helps her run defense So i i don't know if they could die dominate on the ground like they did in that first game, which really kind of saved them and helped bring them back in the second half. So we'll see how Josh Allen's able to perform against Houston, his EPA in the two games against Houston in the last two matchups they played is negative 0.13. To put that in perspective against other opponents, other than Texans, his EPA is 0.19 per dropback. So he becomes like a very bad quarterback against Texans defense. - Yeah, I guess I'm really more excited about like, what this bill's defense is gonna look like, you know, like last season's kind of remarkable that Buffalo was probably even in that position. If you think about it, like, whether it's, I mean, everybody can complain about injuries. Like we know we like their offensive line. We know we all love Allen. We don't like their outside weapons. In theory, they've added a little bit more to it, right? Because they go ahead and make the deal for DJ more. So I would think like just baseline that they have to be better. Because your care felt like the only like really good option that it felt like Josh could depend on. You factor in Josh Allen's running and then cook. And they were able to kind of like piece it together. Kind of like to the point you're talking about there. Defensively, I don't like the secondary. I think the edge guys are a lot of names I recognize, but I don't feel like it's something that's like a game changer. So I wonder with them switching this over to Jim Lenter, like if any of this is going to look better, or if we're going to be sitting there at the end of the year, like not in love with the team, looking up them with like 12 wins going, hey, there are top three seats still in the AFC. Because that's kind of what, like that was not some nasty, awesome team, but yet there was really good chance when you looked at the rest of the AFC, where plenty of people were picking the bills to make it all the way to the Super Bowl, which I don't think was a ridiculous thing. But it's just, I guess I felt like I want to like them more and I didn't, and now I don't know what to do with them other than just assume they're going to have 12 wins. - Yeah, the defense of the issue. I mean, there were times in the league, where at times in the beginning of the season, they looked like one of the worst defenses in the league. And I think they found some success just with like creating chaos and just, it looked like it was just a roll of decks of coverages. They were picking from every play because it was so random. But I think that was on purpose. They were just trying to be as unpredictable as possible. And they had some success and sometimes they get caught kind of rolling the die a little bit. So I think Jim Leonard understands that and I think they'll have kind of a chaos type of philosophy coming into the season. And they'll be a little bit more aggressive up front too. He's coming from that Denver system where they want their guys to get up field and try to shoot gaps and that sort of deal. I think they're defensive line kind of bits of better into that system as well. But I mean, there's a chance that this is a bottom 10 defenses. You know, they just didn't make enough upgrades on that side of the ball. - Okay, let's talk about your play calling rankings. So if you've got KC, we've got Denver here. What needs to change with Andy Reed and some of the things that you saw last year and then obviously NFL coaches talking to you with these play caller rankings about where the chiefs need to get better. - Yeah, with Andy Reed, the sentiment with a ton of the guys I talked to was that he deserves respect for all the things he's done and he's still a great offensive line. But he needs to upgrade his offense. Like his offense is still kind of doing things that they were doing five years ago with the high passing rate, not adjusting to the light boxes and two deep safeties. He needs to get under center more and run the ball and create play action and just create more gimme's for Patrick Mahomes. So that's something that I think will change. I think they kind of signaled that with signing Kenneth Walker and bringing Eric Vannebeak who worked with Ben Johnson and got a taste of how they put together their running offense. But it needs to change. And I think we'll see that this season. But I've said that before about Andy Reed, he really loves passing the ball. So we'll see what happens when the bullets fly. - Can you hammer home that light box number that you have in your preview? Like the number of times they've faced light boxes and how terrible the success rate was against it because it either was the offensive line. Where the offensive line braids out a lot better than I think I realized after the season was over. It's obviously a big part of the motivation of bringing Kenneth Walker being like, we need somebody to make some tough yards here. But you have a number there where I didn't realize it was even that bad. It was either they were so bad that they refused to go to it or they refused to adapt to the fact that it's like, hey, they're just, they're taking these throws away and you guys are taking the opportunity of the matchup up front at this probably both, honestly. - So they faced the fourth highest rate of light boxes, 53.5% but they still ranked fifth in cook rate which measures how often teams pass the ball in neutral situations. So they're seeing a very high rate of light boxes, two deep safeties but they're still passing into it at the fifth highest rate in the league which just doesn't make sense. And I know they have patched my homes in Annie Reed, just a West Coast guy that likes spreading out teams and passing the ball. But at some point you're gonna have to do what the defense doesn't want you to do which is run the ball and just try to create opportunities and play action. And I think they realize that and I think we'll see it this season. - Denver, do you think Waddle addresses their lack of explosive plays? - I think he'll help out a lot but I was surprised at how unexplosive the Denver offense was. They ranked 25th in drives in which they were able to create an explosive so Waddle does help. I think he's a really good compliment to Courtland Sutton who is kind of that stationary ex-receiver and Waddle's that Z slot type like a move around the formation. He ranked 12th in explosive reception rate last season and he just kind of really fits that archetype that Sean Peyton's looking for. So I expect a big season out of him. I don't know if the Broncos all of a sudden will be a top 10 explosive team but if they get to 15th that's gonna help them out tremendously. And also this will be Bo Nix's third year in this offense. So I think he takes a step up as well. So I think they just need to be mid tier as far as explosiveness but they can't rank in that 25th to 30th range next season. - I was alarmed at their lack of explosive plays and I mean when I was reading it I was like wow, that was really a lot lower than you'd think. And I felt like Nix had that stretch of like winning all these close games and it felt like there were big plays after big plays. Like there must have been some like game within, in the NBA you have those last five minutes within five points of each other, different clutch game scenarios and all that kind of stuff. And it's like well maybe over the course of the game the explosives are low but I wonder if there's a different way to categorize some of the stuff that Nix was doing when I was still sort of shocked the entire time but the Waddle numbers were even higher than I expected. - Green Bay Minnesota, why is Minnesota favorite in this game? - I think Green Bay is a totally different defense without Michael Parsons and they're not gonna have Michael Parsons in the beginning of season. And I think the Flores defense is obviously gonna continue to be a good defense and they were in some close games last year with some of the worst quarterback play in the league last year with JJ McCarthy and no matter what you believe about Kyler Murray he's played like a top 10 quarterback. It's certain points of his career and maybe he doesn't reach that top 10 level but if he's mid tier, it's such a huge upgrade to what they had last season that you just expect Minnesota's offense to be better and when you pair that with Brian Flores and what he does defensively, I think this is a team that could win 10 plus games. So I see why they're favorites right now because the Packers are such a different team without Michael Parsons and, you know, Josh Jake, missing Josh Jake was a big deal too because he was such an instrumental factor in the way he broke tackles because his team is not a great run blocking team that without him, I'm curious to see how their run game's gonna look or if they even go to the run game as much as they did because Matt LaFlores was, some people say he called a little too many runs last year so maybe he becomes a little bit more pass heavy but the offense definitely needs to make an adjustment without Josh Jacobs. - Yeah, I think the spread story too is like, if you look on the too deep defensively and that's what Parsons early off, there's like seven guys that are either questionable or out and then two offensive linemen that are questionable. So I think that spread has everything to do with just too many people going like, look at all these concerns that you have with some of the Green Bay guys. Let's talk about some of the bad teams here. Vegas, first and foremost, tough schedule, cousins of the starter. What do you expect with the quarterback decision from the Raiders this year? - I think they're gonna wait till after the first five games when they just have a killer schedule. Like they have the Dolphins first but after that, it's like a murder of Roe as far as the type of defense as they're gonna see. So, I think one, you have to prove that your offensive line is good enough to support a young quarterback, because there's all this talk about how much the line has improved, but the only improvement they really made was adding Tyler Lindembaum, and they're counting on coaching to really improve the past blocking and to cut down on some of those past blocking reps. So, they have to prove that they're able to run the ball a little bit and protect the quarterback. And once they do that, then I think they'll start talking about putting Mendoza in. But I was really encouraged with what I saw with Fernando Mendoza in the preseason, even though his final stat line didn't look good. I thought he looked really comfortable under center. I thought he was able to go through his reads smoothly, and you saw the arm and you saw some of the physical talent, as far as being able to create after, I mean, against pressure. Yeah, that's, that's scheduled there. I mean, they've got Miami and they've got New Orleans in there, but it feels like it might be a week, seven week eight situation where they've got the Rams, excuse me, they're at the New Orleans. And New Orleans could be a lot better team than people expect too. Yeah, then it's KC New England Buffalo Rams, so I mean, I know everybody's kind of of going like, oh, you know, they'll have that one. But then it's on the road. I don't know, man, Mendoza won the Heisman and won a national championship. Like on the road NFL, I think he's going to be okay. And if it isn't okay, that's, that's fine too. I just can't imagine there's a scenario where like, are they good enough with some of the personnel to stay competitive through the first half of that, because it's better, he's healthier, he's back with his play call or like, is there some scenario there where they think like, hey, we can just have Mendoza take a gap here. I don't, I would think that's impossible. I think that's what they wanted early on. I think that was kind of their plan because they talked a lot about how quarterbacks need to sit for a year, Brady's talked about that. But I think one, they were probably a little bit more impressed with Mendoza than they thought they were going to be as far as his transition from a shotgun offense to playing under center. And I think Kirk Cousins' arms just just not look very good. Like a lot of those passes in the precinct that he was throwing were just floaters. So I'm curious to see if he could even push the ball a little bit. Obviously he's there mentally as far as running the operation, but physically, he just does not look very good. Who starts first, Kate Klobdick or Carson Beck? I think Carson Beck. Because I actually feel like the Jets have a chance to be a pretty decent offense. So I think Geno probably hold on to that job for a while, but with the Cardinals. You like the Jets offense, huh? I do. I think Geno Smith played in one of the worst environments a quarterback had played in last year with the Raiders. And I think he was at least average with the Seattle Seahawks. So I think he could return to that. He looked at the Jets offensive line. It could be pretty good. Armand Menbu, their first round pick last year, looks like a future all pro. They have Garrett Wilson. I think Adani Mitchell is going to take a step up and really develop Mason Taylor as a good tied-in. They have Breeze Hall. But my biggest concern is Frank Wright. He just hasn't been a good offense coordinator recently. And I'm concerned about whether he could lead a modern offense, but as far as talent, the Jets have what they need to be, a borderline good offense, I think. Yeah. I mean, it is kind of crazy when you run through Hall, Wilson, Mitchell, Cooper, Mason Taylor was to deep backing him up. You know, this is, that's a nice group. Maybe they're doing the thing we've always talked about is like build out the rest of it and then go get your quarterback and considering they're still probably going to be bad because of that defense. And knowing that like the McShay's of the world are telling me there's maybe six guys that go in the first round, like you don't even necessarily have to like sprint to tank the season. But the old reverse engineering of bringing in a quarterback with a much more stable situation instead of being so bad that you get to draft the quarterback and then wondering if he can survive those first couple of years while you figure out the rest of it. The old line is the old line good enough to be passable. I think so. They have two, they might have one of the best tackle duels in the league at the end of day. Membu, like I said, could be an all pro pro left tackle, Fashano, you know, he's a good player as well. They have some good players on the interior. So this potentially could be a better than average offensive line. And when you look at all the skill players to combine with that, yeah, I mean, I really think this jet's offense is going to slip down a little bit before we let you go. What was your super bowl pick? I think anybody that picks anybody other than a Rams is a hipster pick. I mean, they're just so talented that it's hard to look at another team and think they could beat this team on paper. Yeah, look, I have no problem. Usually I would be the guy that's like, let me just pick somebody different because I don't want to do that. And I ended up having to do the exact same thing. So who'd you have in play? That's a good question. AFC is pretty wide open, but I'm going to say Texans. I think the Texans have a chance to make a run and win the AFC. The AFC is wide open. I love it. You can read Ted Wynne's stuff on the athletic go through those defensive play collar rankings and all the offenses. That stuff is awesome. Get Shane a hand still number one. McVeigh number two. It's just kind of why I'm like, I have friends that argue about how bad Shane a hand is. And I just go like, I'm sorry, but there's just too many people that do this for a living every single day that rave about him, whether it's through something like that or just conversations with guys that play the position that I talk to that just go like, oh my god, he's ridiculous. And then I'll get a text about a time out or something. And I'm just like, all right, maybe you got me there. And the podcast for people who go check it out, just give us a plug for that as well. Yes, just Wynne podcast is a Raiders podcast. You can find that on YouTube, Apple and Spotify. All right. All right, man, we'll talk to you again soon this season. Talk to you soon. And now it's time for a special part of today's episode brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket with NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV. You get every game every Sunday all in one place with a magic of multi view. You can curate your own perfect Sunday slate while tracking every single out of market matchup to keep your fantasy team alive to make sure you're ready for kickoff. We locked in on four games, you absolutely need to be watching this Sunday and we are going to run through those right now. The headliner Buffalo Houston potential AFC conference championship game. Yeah. I mean, they're in the mix. It feels like eight teams are in the mix for this title here. I've got to see Buffalo's defense be better for me to look at them as a true like favorite in the AFC. Maybe some of them. You already have them as that obviously with Josh Shellen and I want to see CJ Stroud year four. I got it. He's he's this bad. He's not as bad as he was at the end of the playoffs. Houston's defense is incredible. Houston can never run the football. Maybe they finally addressed that right now. They're at Houston. You feel like if you're north of 23 points, that's the best you can do against the Texans. So that is probably the number one game I'm watching. Number two, Denver at Kansas City. I want to see if Kansas City has any answer to the way defense has been playing against them. And if this Kenneth Walker investment is actually going to pay off, not just in production, but decided to go with some more run calls and ease up the load on Patrick Mahomes coming back from this knee injury on the other side. I like Denver's personnel. Maybe as much as anyone not named the LA Rams and is it going to be a conversation about Botanix halfway through the season where it's like, hey, some of you guys hand up, have to stop wondering like if that floor is that much lower than some of these other dudes because they put together a really nice run. And who knows they probably playing in the Super Bowl if nicks were available against New England. A final game that I'm locking into here. Well, I got two more to go with. I want to see what Aaron Rogers looks like for Pittsburgh at home against Atlanta. They should be able to win that game with their defense alone. But is there anything? Is there a couple series there where it looks like Rogers and maybe it's just going to be fresher because it's week one. So you can't make too many assumptions, but it just physically needs to look a little bit better than it did last year. And I can't wait to see Green Bay in Minnesota, Green Bay a little banged up already going into week one. That's a tough spot. And Kyler Murray look anything like that guy for about two years there's on a where he felt like he was actually carrying that football team. Terrific weapons there for Minnesota as well. A healthy Kyler, you know, maybe we're all getting the NFC North here wrong because it feels like all these teams are kind of in it, at least in their best case scenarios, whether it's Green Bay Chicago Detroit or the Vikings, you know, the Vikings. 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J UFC part of their boxing promotion, Ryan Garcia, Conor. Ben Paramount plus, you know what's funny is you may not remember this because you've done a million interviews. We had you in studio once at ESPN and I asked you and I wasn't doing it to prove a point or like, I got your question, I was like, do you know who the heavyweight champion is right now? And you were like, I don't. And it was kind of proving a point about boxing and where it's been. And I know that you've, your first love was boxing and now you've been into this for a little bit of time. Do you think you're going to be able to fix this sport the way you want to? I'll tell you this, I've, I've, I've, I was dreading even the thought of getting involved in boxing. And now six months in, I mean, I'm having a good time. I'm actually having fun with this and what surprised you? I don't know why this surprised me, but how unsophisticated all these guys that are on the business side of this thing are it's fucking rinky dink man, rinky dink, every one of these guys are rinky dink guys. And I don't know why I didn't see that common, why didn't expect that. That's why the sport so messed up. So your time in now being exposed to this, do you, do you look at is it any easier fix than maybe you thought? Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely, yeah. Now I see who the problem is. I mean, I, I, I, I used to, you know, I used to believe that the fighters will probably the problem, you know, the fighters on the problem, which is actually fascinating to me. Like you look at boxing, you see these big events going on and all this stuff. You know, as soon as HBO went away, because HBO was running everything. These guys are all, I mean, they're like, they're like guys that put on your local carnival or something. It's just it's so unsophisticated and so bad at what they do. It sounds like what you're telling me is like, well, look, I, I think I've known you well enough, at least from afar, that you'd have this confidence. You have the resume to back your confidence and everything else. But is there a massive advantage to like streamlining this in a way that you've been able to do it in the USC where it just felt like it was a free for all in boxing now for decades? Well, if you look now, I mean, if you look at what we've done was zoo for boxing, like all these undefeated guys are fighting undefeated guys, young, you know, it's just that the sport has been run the same way for the last 100 years. And I always call it a going out of business sale. Every time these guys have a fight, they try to snatch up as much money as they can and then they run and hide for a year and then they come back and and snatch up as much money, as much money as they can. They don't build anything. When is the last time you saw something that generated trillions of dollars of revenue or more? And at the end of the day, there's nothing there. Nothing exists. Oxen, it's fascinating. Now, I remember years ago, like a VC firm, I knew a kid that works, so he wasn't like the decision maker, but he was digging around there. And he's like, this thing is ridiculous and it's exactly your point. It's like, there's no stable part of this thing that actually still generates all this revenue and all this revenue internationally. And yet, it can't seem to ever figure out like what business exists that's this profitable, but there's not like any central thing. Nothing that I know of, I mean, I know of ever plus at the end of the day, if you look at all these guys are all crammed onto one network streaming service right now, right? Nobody wants to be in business with these guys anymore. It's just, you know, that the model is so broken and so many people from casinos to networks, to sponsors and the fans have been screwed for so long that it's finally starting to, and plus has become a very European sport, not an American sport anymore. No, and I hope for a day because of how much I love the sport growing up. I hope for a day where the heavyweight champs are names that I'm like, oh, yeah, I do remember that guy. And I'll be honest to be right now and I looked at this morning before we did this. I'm like, there's three names I can't pronounce. And I think I've heard of one of the other guys. Let's talk about the UFC. The heavyweight division feels like it is, it is. The Cyril Gon win against Pere, I know he's coming up in weight, but what did Gon show you on what he can do kind of long term, say the next two years in this division? Yeah, I mean, Cyril has always been, you know, right? The John Jones thing is just, it's just crazy and, and, you know, but John Jones. And, you know, when you think about the fight with him in Francis, he doesn't go for that arm bar. He wins that fight. You know, he's always just sort of been right there and he's a super talented guy. And we'll see how this whole thing plays out. You got Waldo Cortez, the coach that you got, Josh Hockett, Gon, and then Aspenal, whenever he heals up. Yeah, Hockett was, was vocal after the Gon fight where it was like, hey, this shouldn't be a Pereira rematch or everything. Do you like, even if you don't like what the fighter is saying, do you like fighters being that vocal because it does bring more attention to them as a character and even the sport? Well, it depends when you say how vocal, the dumb shit that he said on, on the lawn of the White House, no, but, you know, free speech and I, I don't police what guy said. And I don't love what everybody says all the time. That's, that's the country we, I wasn't even asking about that. I think it goes without saying all of us are like, shut up. But I mean, specific to like the fight, when you asked me the question about Josh Hockett and being vocal, I mean, it's the first thing, you know, it's the first thing I have to address, you know, it's because it's so absolutely stupid. And, you know, but no, guys coming out and saying, hey, he shouldn't get this or I shouldn't get, listen, get, get out there, tell, what do you want? Who are you? What do you want? What's next? And, you know, make other people jump on, on board with you. Gachy's run this year. The patty fights all-timer to pour you the favorite and, you know, you're watching that fight and you're going like, which way is this going to go? Antic has told me too, like years and years ago, and I love to ask you guys this, like, hey, everybody's tough, but like, who's a real tough guy? And Gachy was the first name that he came up with. Did you think he still had this in him? Yeah, I mean, listen, he's got that, would you have the power that he has and you take all the things that, that surrounded that fight, him being such a big underdog, him coming in as a, you know, as not originally the main event and then everybody goes, oh, they put Justin Gachy and Justin Gachy is going to get killed. He's a five-to-one underdog and on the White House lawn, on the 250th birthday of America. I mean, these are the type of things that certain guys rise to the occasion and that was one of those nights. I mean, that was the- If you wrote this movie, first of all, the storm is coming to hit us. We're getting hit by this storm. It's 100% happening. The planes that we're doing the flyover already on their way back to the base, not happening. We got to dump a bunch of the stuff that we spent millions of dollars producing all the stuff about the history of America. The whole show is about to be completely different than it was. And then all of a sudden, the storm breaks in half, goes around the White House and the ellipse. Then the card plays out the way that it does and then the main event happens. It's just, if you wrote this in a movie script, it would be the biggest crock of shit of all time. But it actually happened and reality is better than anything you could ever write. Do you think that you will do say something in Minnesota for Tim Walls to even things out and do like, you did a White House thing? Oh, that's funny. So, oh, you have an open mind, it's up there. I'm hoping everything. Except that. How about, you know, with Gachi here, like, this is kind of who he is, you know, even if there was a couple of fights, you know, you know how it works where it's like, sometimes, it's over, quick. And it's usually, the fighters, the last to know that it's over. How often are you surprised when it feels like a fighter is kind of on the back and they're queer? How often do you think you yourself are surprised being around these guys to see, maybe not necessarily Gachi, but how often it happens to you? Because I imagine you have unbelievable, like, reads and access on, like, this guy might be toast. Yeah. Well, I think you see it in all combat sports, and maybe all sports, too, but I focus more on combat sports, like, yeah, this guy's career is definitely winding down and it becomes more of a, what else is there left to prove? It's obviously the money. The money's always going to be the, you know, the driving factor. It's hard to walk two things that's hard to walk away from. Number one, guys like you and I will never understand this or, no, but to walk out of a tunnel with 20,000 people going crazy and, you know, you get into the octagon and, you know, all that type of stuff that happens in the sport. then. the money. It's hard to walk away from. So we have to look and say, "What's left? What more is there to prove for this guy?" What about you? Is there something else after this White House success? I think your quote was something like, "I'm so happy to do it. Never want to do it again." Is there something for you, this white whale of like, "You know what I would love to do? I could do one big thing here. What would that be? Hmm. I don't know yet. It hasn't come to me yet, but Craig Borsari, who is my head of production, who pulls off the sphere and the White House, came to me with a really great idea that we're working on right now. He's actually flying back right now from what we're working on. He's been out there for four days. Staying if we can pull this off. You can get some flight trackers on him. Bigger picture. This is a broader thing, and I want to kind of turn this into a little bit of a conversation here. You invest into the UFC, I think the number was what? Two million. You can correct any of these numbers if I'm on some of the stuff. And then years later with your partners, it's a $4 billion sale. I know you still have a stake. There's Pail. I think the cool thing for you is like, we see this with these NBA teams as they sell. And then they're like, "Oh, don't worry. Like the other people are going to stay in charge a little bit." And then it's like, once everything happens, it's like, "Guess what's not going to happen." You were a big part of the value of the UFC, too. So you've been able to stay in this position on top of the stake that you still have. When you see these astronomical numbers associated with the Lakers or the Seahawks for over nine billion recently, the reaction that I see the most of is like, "Okay, we're hitting the top here. Like this is not sustainable." And then sometimes I wonder if it just means that these things were so incredibly undervalued that we may just be at the cusp of even more astronomical prices. You're thoughts on that? I also think that coming out of COVID, we didn't realize how important sports are in our life until they were all gone. I mean, everybody was freaking out. I mean, I would have watched golf during frigging COVID. It just sports are such a huge part of our life for everybody, even people who don't think that they are. And I don't disagree with that. I mean, if you look at the Celtics, the Celtics sold for like six billion last year. And now these teams, the Vegas team, the Timberwolves, the Lakers, I mean, what are the Celtics worth? I mean, so if they sold for six billion, they got to be worth ten now, right? Yeah, I'm looking at the values up four billion. And then the Lakers, eight months ago, go up two and a half billion, eight months. Okay, so what does that tell you then? Like, we're getting close to a point that isn't sustainable or that- It's such a great question. I've been talking about this for three days with my guys. No, you're dead on. And then Ari's like, if the Lakers are worth 12 and a half billion, the UFC's worth 50 billion. Do you regret selling? I'm still in. Yeah, right. You still have a nice mistake. I was looking at it this morning. But like, think about the Celtics part of it. When Wic and that group bought it in 2002, and I just moved back to Boston, they bought their controlling interest for 360 million. People laughed at them because they didn't own the building because the Jacobs and the Bruins owned the building. They laughed at them. They sell it for six. And when the Lakers go for 10 million, and then just over a year later, go for 12 and a half billion, you know, the Denver Broncos sold for 4.65 billion four years ago. I think you could argue, even though Seahawks just came off a super bowl, is it better franchise than Seattle? And Seattle goes for 9.6. Is it- Is it because private equity doesn't have anywhere else to put this? Or do we look at like the rules and go, Hey, everything is in your favor. The NBA ratings don't even have to go up. They just have to exist. And it's still a great product because people are watching live sports. The CBA guarantees you that your employment is only going to cost this percentage of whatever your revenue is. And so even if it's an operating thing year to year, your guarantee is on these appreciations. Or maybe it's just private equity going, these deals are so massive now. We're the only people who can do it. And we might as well get into that business because it's far less risky than some of these other, obviously, like a million different options you can get into. I'm just, I want you, you know, I know you've been talking about it for a couple of days, but I don't have an answer. I just don't want to assume anything. Well, here's the most interesting part. Here's what you're leaving out. So what's going to go on with the rights for the- first of all, the monster in the whole conversation here is the NFL, right? So NFL content is so good and like everybody's geeking out right now because football seasons back and everybody's excited. And I've been saying this now for the last couple months. Like in my world, in the combat sports world, none of these people are my competitors. We are not the same, okay? We are not even remotely close to being the same. My competition is the NFL Major League Baseball, the NBA, and the NHL. So when you talk about what these franchises are selling for, you know, there's going to be a battle here over the next, you know, five, six, seven years over the rights, you know, who's going to pay what and who's going to emerge as the, you know, we used to have Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, you know, now you got the Netflix, the YouTube, the Paramounts, the, you know, the, the, the Disney's and who's going to win in this whole, you know, when I grew up, there was Channel 3, Channel 5, Channel 8, Channel 13. I think in the next 10 years, that's going to exist again, but on a global level, like the whole world will be watching these networks. So, but through the streaming, through the streaming companies, or something going, yeah, okay, streaming companies are going to be, you know, the next big networks, YouTube, you know, list goes on and on. So a lot's going to change in the next seven years. So for these franchises that are all, you know, you're talking about multiple franchises going for, you know, anywhere from six to 14 billion dollars, you know, and, and they got it, they, they got to get fed who was paying the rights fees on this. And I believe I don't know if this is true, but I absolutely know this is true. When we did our deal at Paramount for eight billion dollars, there was a meeting at the NFL and they were like, that was fucking eight billion dollars out there. We didn't get it, right? We'll put games on on Tuesday Wednesday. That's happening. By the way, that will happen. I don't know. I don't know when it'll be in our lifetime, but NFL season is going to have NFL on every fucking night soon. It's happening very soon in our lifetime. And, and, you know, and the NFL is a great product, you know, it's not global, but, you know, what's today? The the Rams are playing tonight in Australia, you know, they're, they're pushing hard to try to go global. I just don't know how it works. Globally, I think for, for, for people Australia, like, oh, in that NFL game, let's, let's try to check it out. I don't, they don't care about any of the teams that are over there and grow up watching them. They have no investment in, you know, who wins or loses. It's, it's a tough one way different than fighting fighting works everywhere. But, um, yeah, the NFL is an absolute powerhouse. Okay, but you brought up a good point on your paramount deal because you're right. Like, people in the NFL on the business side who do these, do these rights deals were again, there was something, I don't have it like word for word here, but it was almost like, hey, do you want to go back and revisit this whole thing? And their network partners are like, hey, we get it, but like, we'll wait out the rest of the deal and then kind of see what we're at. And I think for you, the beauty in this was paramounts, like, we need a dance partner. You know, like, for somebody's like, who is this going to be? And now, granted the NBA, the NFL, even baseball, to some degree, has kind of shopped up the product and been like, if we can just get all this money by putting in all these different places, does that feel less long term than just having kind of like the one streaming option that you're obviously your product is more heavily favored towards? Well, I know exactly what paramount needs for me. And, you know, and I'm one of those partners that will grind and work over the next seven years to deliver what I need to deliver to them. I mean, any of my partners that I've been with from Fox, the ESPN to Spike TV in the early days. But there's so much more to it than just what are these things selling for? The question is, what can you get for rights fees? Once you do. Yeah, because I have maybe the correction that people have argued, but again, I remember being all the ESPN all the years, like, there was a NBA deal that Skipper did and the teens and he got killed he got killed for it. And then the next deal was triple what that deal was, right? And then this most recent deal, you know, people looking to be like, I can't believe the NBA got that much and maybe the NBA got that much. And now the NFL is like, I can't believe they got that much. So that means that we're worth all of this stuff and granted this contract and you can renew this stuff and tear it all up and do it all over again. Does your data show you that this is still like an under, like, you might be a little motivated to answer this a certain way, but that the live rights thing, we still aren't close to understanding what the value can be of these things, especially with your product being so international. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. And your job as a league. is to keep getting younger, you have to keep getting younger and figuring out how to get younger. There's so much more to this than just what does the, you know, what have the franchise sell for? So I mean, if I ask you like, hey, what would you rather have? Like, do you think you'd ever want to own part of a sports franchise? No. Why not? Well, well, most of them don't make money. There's too much bullshit, you know, involved. I like taking niche sports that nobody believes it and building them into power houses. That's what I like it. Well, you did that. And it's funny. I'm still doing it. I mean, me and the Fatita's own a company called Throw One. You know, we on SLS Kate, leave Nigel Circus and Power Slap. Did you ever think it would be this in 25 years ago? You don't ever, I mean, we believed in the product, but you don't know at what level. Like, you know, you don't see a lot of this coming. Then once you get in, you start grinding and start real out. I mean, when we bought the UFC, we'd never put on a production before. You know, I didn't know anything about production. Were you scared? No. What I did know, because as a fan, what did I want to see? You know, so I went through, you know, 10 years of just crazy shit with, you know, hiring, firing, trying new things, you're always working on your production and you're always trying to evolve. And the thing that's been really good to my business is technology. You know, the better technology gets, I'm always diving in to try to be first or, you know, trying to make the fan experience better. Ryan Garcia, Connor band, Paramount Plus, Nocha UFC, part of Dana's boxing promotion and wish you luck with it. Enjoy your fight and we'll see you on the road at some point. Thanks Dan. Thanks. Thanks. With NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV, it doesn't matter who's coming over it. 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And I was like, and look, I'm all grown up now and you're still let me have them because it is the ultimate combination like a father and son reminiscing over chocolate and peanut butter goodness like Brady to Montana, which doesn't make any sense. But imagine if they played together, Reese's the official candy partner of bar stool sports go get Reese's wherever you shop. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 cabriolay. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the south fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine and best of all kids I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Live advice, live advice or are at gmail.com. We'll get to some emails. We have some nice follow ups from previous emails, but it appears Kyle is already in Johnny season. He is switched out to Pats Jersey for red storm hat. I know that people are excited to see the video posted. I don't think we should stop doing that. I think we should do Kyle recaps every week for the Pats from the main page. No way. He was nervous and he was like 1230 Eastern time and I was like in bed and I, well, yeah, no, you're kind of you're kind of hyped up for the state for Kyle. Well, I know that you're an early riser. I'm a bad guy. He's not a night person to be it shocks people. I take care of most of my business during the day. You know, that's right. That's what I can. I will. But he sends a video. And I was literally in bed. I was like, I can't. My wife's a slave. I leave the room and then I watch it like this is incredible is everything we want it to be. And then Kyle's like, wait, I don't like it. I'm going to send another one. Then he sends another one and then FaceTime and then Kev our social guy FaceTime because we weren't sure which one we were supposed to post. You were invited, Rhino. That gets you just in pick up. Yeah. I was at a jazz thing. Right. Right. Yeah. It's Christian Scott. So we worked through which one we were going to post last night. I do think we picked the right one. So that's good. That's fun. Yesterday was a bummer for a couple of reasons, the first bar my regular bar that I go to shots. He showed out. The I we get there. I'm like worried about getting seats and the, you know, she sees me walking with the jerseys on my brother's got a Teddy jersey on and she's just like, I'll tell you boys right now not for sale. No. No. 54. Oh. Rooskey. And she goes, I'll tell you boys right now. I'm not staying open till like to the end of this game. I got kids. I was like, God damn. Really? And then at halftime I call the sports bar that's not too far away. I'm like, Hey, are you guys staying open to the end of the game? Like, of course, we go there. No one's out for this game. They're like, you know, putting chairs up or anything with like a full quarter left. And my wife's like, cow, she's like waiting for you to leave because I'm my wife. Okay. Well, she's like, she's waiting for you to leave. And then she goes, Yeah, I am. I was like, holy shit. So then we walked to the pool hall, which is right by there. I was like, these people have got to be open. And I finished the, so three different bars to get through this game just to lose like that. And then yes, we get to the, we get to the, wait, so are you to blame for the vibe change into the fourth quarter? It's possible because now we're in the pool hall. I'm bummed out. Nobody wants me to watch this game and three picks. Boom, boom, boom. This is crazy. So. So what do we do? How do we sort this out? Do we send out the red alert to Pekipsi and say, we need a home home base for Kyle? I think it was. No, I think it was. I mean, Sunday was always Sunday. But now it's Wednesday. I don't know. Maybe it's because I thought like Super Bowl rematch was supposed to be a decent game. Thought it would be, people would be jazzed up about it. But it's like Wednesday. The kids went back to school on Tuesday, you know, I don't even tell you anymore. The NFL ratings mafia. That's not it. Is NFL king? Three places closing. Two places closer. Would they do that for Pacers? Nicks? No, they were. I mean, you have a world cup. Tell you that right now. 40 days away from the start of the NBA season, by the way. Fuck. I'm going to count the count down. Anyway, I think it was just a, it was a, we a walkie start. This is what you get when you start starting shit on Wednesdays instead of Thursdays. I think this is like, you know, you win that game every Wednesday. Every happy. That's right. I want to know how many years we are from, like, celebrate 4th of July with Vikings tight weeks, zero. Like will the NFL try? I think the NFL is capable of literally anything. Yeah. I wonder. Yeah. So I was reading about Roger Gale's $1 salary during the work stoppage the other day. And I was like, remember when people thought that was real? So I may even have a segment on that. It's something. Yeah. I'm waiting for the NFL to turn into that like time Lord bro, who's just like, we're actually going to have a season within the season. Listen to me. Two season. You got your one season. We got two seasons at the same time, right? I think one of NFL season one B. I mean, even Tray Wingo would be like an August going, yeah, this is a lot of football. All right. We have some follow ups, which I think are worth revisiting on the PSI guy. You may remember him is 19 BJs. Who could forget appreciate the read got a good laugh might be a boring update, but I dropped the link to the pod in the group discord and got a few key points to hit. A couple of people heard six to rather than my six to 15 listed. So got a couple hard inquiries there. Yeah, there is a dash. My bad. There's better than the other way around friends that slide though, yeah, one 10, right? Although that really would be even worse, I guess if you think about it, very high approval rating of Ryan reading Fuggen that G G I N, which is common vernacular amongst the group not solely owned by the original offer. So would love if that becomes a mainstay. I don't know if I can do it, but I love doing it that way. that day. It didn't sound bad. These are all obvious. Yeah. It wasn't. But I was trying for the audience, right? Like I didn't want the audience to be like, did he just get the word wrong or something? And it was like, no, there was an emphasis on that because of how rare that usage is. This is, these are all bullet points. By the way, um, 19 BJs is now a new, it's now a new lore of the group whenever the group. Yeah. Yeah. Some members may already be using it. So basically they're pricing everything that way now from this moment. How much do I owe you for the beer? Exactly. Should I Venmo you? Actually, what other members had mentioned, they also don't have a PS5. So now friendships are ruined, not really. The wife of the offer really enjoyed you guys roasting me for my limited gaming availability. Overall, I don't think I will take the offer up. I'm pretty locked into my two, three game rotation, which is mostly college football, dynasty dominated right now. So Sury wants in my brother would love to harass him to play as a game so we can advance. Oh, was that was kind of nasty, right? Yeah, it happens. You got a couple of stragglers that tie things up. It's a bummer. No offense was meant to Sury or any other jazz out there who would kill for an hour or two of gaming. A night wife works very early in the morning. So she's a bit shortly after the kiddo. So my night's a pretty open after 9 p.m. Kind of sounds like this family thing is not affecting your game window. Can you imagine how many husbands are out there? If you're like, imagine if everybody else just went to bed at nine, nine, we're all loud. Because I imagine some of you are like, Hey, when when the chief of the house shuts it down, like it's expected that I get to get in there and it's like, don't you get sick of cuddling after a few years? But this guy's living. He's got like a three hour. Yeah, that guy has has multiple day or one day. Yeah, right now. My second day starts right now. Yeah. Um, thanks again for the read and the advice, but I've ever changed my mind. I'll shoot my friend. The let me get that text per Kyle. Okay. Um, so what do we think about a follow up on sorruti's 52 week low moment on the sorruti zest email. Oh, another follow. Is there anything else to be said? It's from the guy. Oh, oh, wow. We think we owe him that. We've literally everyone else in the country on it. So we should hear the guy. By the way, I think even if that was a 52 week low for sorruti and some of the feedback that we got on his concern with the sister dating the brother-in-law, I think after market, the recovery, the amount of shit that you took, then the recovery of people that had it back. Yeah, they bought. Yeah. Yeah. These dips aren't going to buy themselves. Yeah. Hey, guys, um, pretty crazy with my family predicament did to the pod. Love all the advice really helped me out to cut to the chase. I went and talked to my sister. Uh, she was, I was really cool about it. Well, apparently you're so fuck. Uh, I was really cool about it. Said I didn't have a problem with her seeing again. I think we use the names Emily and Brad here with her seeing Brad, my wife's brother, but told her a sorruti pointed out that if it gets too serious, they break things off that would make gatherings a little weird, at least for a while. Uh, she said she and Brad had already talked us through. And if they break things off, there'll be as normal as possible in the future. Oh, oh, great. Oh, great. Yeah. Well, then I guess everything's good to me. But we need to pass it. We have things going on. Yeah. You can have this. You can keep yourself. I'll keep mine. Imagine dating somebody be like, Hey, you want to just make a pact like after two years of like heavy, intense emotional investment in each other. And then if somebody does something sort of wrong and ends this whole thing that will just be totally cool with each other. Yeah. That sounds like a great idea. Let's do that. Um, then I gave Brad a call and total basically the same thing. Then my wife and I went out with Brad and Emily to dinner last week. And all four of us sat down and just started laughing for a good minute. Well, sounds like somebody had a good time out socially. They told us the story of them first getting together by accident one night by accident and then going out for coffee the next morning. They didn't think it was ever going to get serious. So that's why they didn't tell my wife and I now apparently it's pretty serious. Um, Brad made some Italian jokes at my expense. Thanks for not getting someone to whack me when you found out. So the big reveal be it Thanksgiving this year. Big joint family get together. And they'll be telling everybody should be fun. Thanks for the advice. Okay. Let us know how Thanksgiving goes. Yeah. I mean, like I'm not here to poo poo love. Like if you love each other great happy for you. You know, I don't know why those words are funny to me. But yeah, this work out pretty well. Hope it works out for you. The secrecy stuff is gone, right? They're about to hard launch on a holiday. I mean, it's gonna be in some, you know, some photo albums. All right. Yeah. How do we get the family like? How do you think your families would react to this news? My older people would say stop introducing anyone to anyone. Yeah. I'd be like, what? What? The longer vegetable would just have a third cousin I was gonna bring someone over soon. Cousin. I think I think the older people would have said something out loud. I think some of the middle age people would have been like, you know, in the other room on the, you know, on the grill or something being like, what the fuck was this? And then I think the younger people would be like, screw it from the rooftops, man. Like I think that's how my family would go. Right. I got a couple of great aunts that would definitely say something inappropriate. And yeah, this is not right. Yeah. Yeah. But basically what you said. And they're Italian. So you know what? Maybe there's something there who knows. But if we have a listener who's like late 70s and you're that person that just lets it fly, can you email us and tell us what goes? When does that like Rubicon type thing happen? We just go, yeah. This is my role now. And I'm here kind of Aaron Rodgers. Like I'm just going to must be heard. By the way, what's your vote on my argument? We're really cloned about Aaron Rodgers disappearing versus me saying he needs to be heard. Really interesting. Um, I think I was really he's kind of yeah. Like he does the ayahuasca things goes off the grid. So I think he's a quarterback though. I think when he's not a quarterback, I'm not sure it's going to have the same need. I have a hard time believing we're just never going to hear again. No. I think I think there is some truth to what you said, Ryan. He just is a I need to be heard guy and what that will be. You know, he's going to be running for VP at some point, you know, at some point, maybe, you know, he just pops up all the studies into politics. It wouldn't be surprised. I'm telling you, when you are asked what book you're reading and you tell everyone you're reading a book about physics, you desperately want everyone to know you're reading a book about physics. That is a massive tell. I think you should get credit for reading a book about physics. I would want you to know if I am right. But I remember he's on the show and it's like, Oh, what are you reading? He's like, I'm reading it's book on physics. That is somebody that wants everyone to know what he's thinking. And I don't think that I disappear. What book was the wrong reading? The absolute father that he could read. That was when he was sitting at the chair. Was that what? Somebody got that was favorite part was he was like, Oh, so many all of it. So many parts. It's so bad. She's just all of it. It's a bra. Like, you know, Lebron, he at least, he is himself right in that way. No, like, like, like, Aaron, like, would try to kind of, I don't know, hide that be cooler than what? Lebron is like a little bit cornering. Like, that's just who he is. Whereas like, I think Aaron thinks he's like kind of the coolest guy and he's also kind of corny. And listen, I'm corny too. Like, it happened is what it is, but you don't your thing. But you're making a great point here. Cause I think Lebron's had like enough goofy moments where like, maybe his closest friends are giving him shit about the Godfather book. But then like, none of us really know what to do with it. Like, nobody in the room is going to go, you can't point to one part of the Godfather that you like. You know, and then I think wasn't the bookmark in different places and stuff. And again, he's doing that where it's like, Oh, it's on page one. Yeah. This playoff series, he's reading about the mafia. Well, they just an all black for a funeral for the series to like that kind of shit. It's very performative. He's a very performative guy. I think that's kind of unavoidable when you're a specialist. He is. And you've been in the spotlight since like 13 years old. But oh, it was the mountain ax on a biography. Well, then, yeah, he's had multiple books of Godfather one there. I think there was an Italian reporter that asked him in the media availability afterwards and being like, Hey, what was your favorite part? And he was like, he couldn't name one. The Italians. Was the Malcolm X thing also like, look this up. I did just his Malcolm X one was during the bubble during the the playoffs and 20. That's the one I think I'm thinking of where he's sitting in that chair. And they, I'm pretty sure that's it. Okay. Now I got to figure out what's going on with the Godfather. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. The Godfather like, there's another one with LeBron too that I thought was really telling is that when McVeigh recited a bunch of plays and then everybody freaked out. Like, oh my God, McVeigh knew where every one of these plays were LeBron very shortly thereafter did the exact same thing when he wasn't asked, but he like knew he was going to go, I'm going to do the same thing because I want to prove that I'm like a smartest McVeigh is or look at all of this love that McVeigh got because it was like, he was able to recite all these plays in a row. Not that long after that LeBron did the exact same thing without kind of like he didn't have to answer it that way, but he was going to like prove a point there. He also put on a hand brace after they lost the Warriors, which people don't forget. Jesus Christ, we got to read an email at this point. All right. We got to read an email. I heard you. Aaron Rodgers. Thank you for bringing us back. I can hate this. I actually have more feedbacks when we're going to save them. We're going to save them. All right. So auto shop. Uh oh. What happened here? Did he send us another email? No. Same email. All right. Auto shop. That's right. You shoot me. Uh oh. Tires. Love the pod. I've been a listener since. We've been in rest of the days. 34 years old. 5, 9, 140. Going for lean muscle. I can't carry too much bulk around on this small up frame. I love it, man. No gym stats. But I swim 12,000 yards a week and try to get a couple sessions of yoga in as well. Here's a situation. There's an auto repair shop on a street near my apartment in Chicago. They routinely park cars that are repairing on the sidewalk picture attached. I've emailed local government leader. This car is parked just right in the front of the shop on the side of my neighborhood in LA. This is like par for the course. I just wouldn't even go down that street. It was terrible. I've emailed local government leaders and shops landlords to get them to stop. They haven't. This has gone up for years. Finally, one day as I was walking by, I saw cars parked again on the sidewalk. So I went to the shop. Oh. He just went in there, man. The employee behind the counter said to me, can I help you? My response was, yeah, can you stop parking cars like that in the sidewalk as I pointed to the car on the sidewalk? Walk is capitalized. That employee at another one, male 30s, 40s, then said, oh, you're the guy complaining to the alderman and told me to mind your own business. And then there's no room in their parking lots. So the sidewalk was the only option to park cars. I told them it was my business is I live a block away. I told them the sidewalk was the public way and it's not to be used for their own private business. There are tax payers that people can still walk through. So there's no problem. I would push back a bit. I'm like, tax payers doesn't mean you get to do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah. Doesn't mean you can yell at cops. I pay your salary by the way. You definitely shouldn't do that. Yeah. I pay your salary. You know what? Good point. Here's what we're going to get out of here. All right. I told them I ran an overflow parking lot somewhere nearby and not obstruct the public way. Well, that probably wasn't going to they told me to leave the store as I was not buying any good services. They also told me to call good year their corporate owner or the police or the city. Most concerningly as I was leaving, one employee told me that people who do not mind their own business in Chicago, quote, get shot. Oh, I don't think I totally, I don't think the higher up to corporate would love that part. But is this the biggest problem in the city? No. Does it annoy me as a local resident property owner very much? So yes, do I want to face the solace corporation abusing the public for their own private profits? No, remember, folks, it's a sidewalk, not a side park. My question is, do I give the fight or continuing fighting the good fight and risk getting shot over? That guy's not going to shoot you after he threatened to. I don't think I think it's probably good practice to not challenge people that say I'm going to shoot. But I'm kind of with you Kyle. I don't think he's I don't think he was going to get shot here now. I kind of wish I hadn't named the name brand because he knows that there's a tire thing at some point. Like, absolve anyone from anything this is this is the local affiliate, making local affiliate decisions. You know, you could do like, do you just, I mean, it's kind of like a full care and route, but, you know, just start spamming Google reviews and just get your buddies involved as well. Just like, well, you got to make something, you got to make it happen because like, that's like what's, they're not, they're clearly nothing is working. They're not going to do anything. I don't think they're going to shoot. Google reviews, nobody's told these cars though, huh, like that he, he hasn't gone that route other than just sending a couple of emails. Like, I'm not sure. We know how it goes. Like, it's just something that whoever's whatever, it's like, they're just kind of letting them do it. They've been letting them do it for a while. Right. So they know they're going to get away with it. Hmm. Is it? I'm going to ask you this like, it's, I get your point. You don't have anything other going on, like, anything else in your life is going on. It's probably more important than this. I'm going to ask you, like, I'm not critical. Like, if you like your neighborhood and really just kind of does, right. And you're going to say you're going to tell me if somebody was parking, like near your house in Manhattan Beach, parking on the, on the sidewalk, you would be aware of what happens in Manhattan Beach. I am. It's not like the entire parking structure of Manhattan Beach, but it's like some random higher shop. There's people. It's people. I trust me. I've tried to find parking in Manhattan Beach and it's the worst thing in the world. I'm going to park it in the host. I'm going to park it in the wall. We were talking about the NHL where, you know, we might even talk about the first second round stuff, you know, conference finals, Stanley Cup, and he would come in and just be so great. And he's also, it's impossible to be as cool as Barry Melrose was. He could, think about this, he could have a completely outdated look, he could have a completely outdated suit. He was still the coolest guy in the room, coolest guy in the hallway every single time. And I mean the outdated thing in like the best possible way, like hardcore old school hockey guy who would roll in with these suits. And he'd have his hair just comb back and, you know, it was like, we're around a lot of people, man, like being the ESPN as long as I've been there. And it was, there was these little reminders of like the day to day, like this is a cool experience. And then you get numb to it, you know, you have scenarios where like I should be a little more freaked out that I'm walking down the hallway with Jerry Rice to go figure out what's on the menu. But Barry had this presence of when you were around him or you got to see him, it just was was kind of this other level. So thoughts with his family and they don't they don't make them like Barry Melrose, that's for sure. Rhymer Civil Podcasts are still sports.