SCOTT JENNINGS Talks Bush Presidency, Debates, CNN

I mean what what we're doing is no there's no other cable show that has debates. Yeah every other cable show is six people I'm going on next month. You're coming. Yeah, okay. Why you laugh at me like this? I think it's a minor leager. I mean Oh, well, I'll see you on the battlefield my friend. They told me I'm gonna you don't even know what I'm gonna do to you They told me they were having good people. I get it So rude just because you did the Iraq war you think you're gonna do Oh Freedland show it's 2026 I'm Adam Freedland first off going back on the road emerald city comedy club Seattle Washington It's like a week and a half away. Is that right? 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I guess as we can see an impolitical contributor Scott Jennings got made a name for himself early on in life as a successful campaign operative they called him the master of attack His sensees were Mitch McConnell and George W. Bush in recent years Scott has become a social media sensation as a conservative Commentator on the Communist News Network otherwise known as CNN to put it simply folks Scott is one of the most famous Arduers in America today now. I'll be honest one of my biggest fears is having an argument I've avoided them my whole life I've been ripped off numerous times and I've never had the guts to call customer service I once hadn't what was deemed in an open and shut case against a life guard rude life guard I'm very attractive on the other it was a girl a hot girl life guard on the grounds of pain and suffering But I buckle during crossing the examination it felt like an argument to me throughout human history We have seen wars waged between human beings and human beings We saw young men die on the battlefield. They were ripped from the cornfields of Iowa the stick ball Black tops of Brooklyn They were just boy And every last one of those wars started with an argument, so this week presented a new challenge as an interviewer to keep Jennings a man who's on a hair trigger from unleashing the monster inside of him And that's That's Scott Give it up. Scott you guys Our next guest is a token conservative on stuff. I'm just kidding Our next guest is author of the new book revolution of common sense. He's a contributor a political contributor to CNN Everyone give it up for Scott Jennings. Everyone get this makes up noise This one of the worst ones I've heard yet That's one of the most pathetic clips at her Do it like in a married with children when Kelly Bundy comes out I do remember that everyone got so horny when Kelly came out was a little bit inappropriate a lot of folks I was in there. I was a teenager when that show was out that I recall those vibrations. Yeah, you're 10 years older than me. I believe well, how old are you? You're 48 if 48. I'm 38. Okay. Okay, so you're 10 years Wizer than me Kelly Bundy was a thing she was Peggy. She was unreal. She was unreal. My first question was my cousin Vinny Oh, yeah, Mona Lisa Mona Lisa Vito. Yeah, something else. She's like 60 today and she's still outrageous. Perfect She really has an age at all. She's a man. You love so you love Hollywood. It's your favorite place. I do love Hollywood Do you consider yourself as you're like in a show biz now? Yeah, yeah, I What I do is a mixture of show biz and WWE. Yeah, and you're a heel I'm a lovable rascal, but if you want to call it a heel, you're like the Eddie Guerrero of See it at Eddie Guerrero. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's like a B your seat here wrestler. Oh, come up with somebody better than that You're the gold dust. I'm like Gold dust. You would be gay to the other guy It was like really scary. He wore a he wore a strange, but he had a hot girl with him Yeah, it was very confusing as a child. I'd be like why is he what kissing the guy, but he's got a you know He had a very alpha father the American dream Dusty Rose Dusty Rose. Yeah, who was it? Who's an amazing wrestler? Yeah, who's a legend Yeah, so yeah, I mean I that was you think that that's what the Democrats kind of want is a kind of gold That's yes, I think they would all dress that way if they could well they want like just to be confusing They won gold dust a nation of gold dust. I want a nation of Hulk Hogan John scene in the undertaker They want a nation of gold dust dude the holster RIP, dude. I know I finally met him last year Yeah, this is like my child R&C. I met him at the R&C. Oh my god. I gotta say I'm I look like I was I was I'm a pinco like I'm like a New York style Jewish pinco, but when he ripped that shirt I was ready to go you want to hear about it? Yeah, I've been trying I mean it was your idea 40 years really and They finally let me and I took David Axelrod down there to meet him amazing And so we go down to the bowels of the arena and we could hear him rehearsing in his dressing room And he's in there hulking up, you know, so they they open the door and the gas is you know, Hulkster This is a scotchettings and David Axelrod from CNN And he and he comes out and he's you know, he's a little nervous and he's hand is shaking and I said Hulkster, are you nervous? And he said I'd never done politics brother Yeah, and I said well, you body slammed Andre the giant front of 90,000 people. I think it'll be okay And you know what's politics he then went out and Delivered the greatest convention speech in the history of political conventions. Yeah, yeah, and ripped his shirt off that I've been I've been at every convention since 2000. I've never heard anybody bring the house down. Obama. Oh for it was pretty big Yeah, yeah, no, it wasn't big rip your shirt off. You know, I'm not saying you agree But when he said Obama Obama first of all definitely definitely he left to left us wondering was under the shirt You know, it was being a little bit more coy, but no that speech I remember was big. Yeah, it was so it was so good that George W Bush won the national popular vote. I mean he wasn't running for president. Yeah, John Kerry was a Kerry Kerry My that was a fun campaign to work on cuz we won but Kerry was well you got two extra you got two extra two extra states over two You're on both campaigns. I want to get I want to get to you cuz you're kind of like the Benson Boone of campaigns You're the flipper. You're the flip you're the one you flipped so many You're a flip boy. Do you know Benson Boon is I have no idea He's this guy that sings and flips. You know that song the these beautiful days and I've got okay First off, we're gonna watch a Benson Boone video. It's crazy. They're like they're at people in campaigns and elections that have lost Every time it got the promotion each time. Mm-hmm happens a lot. Yeah, and you're like a guy you win every time not every time We want a lot though. What's the loss that you've had? Oh, gosh. Oh back home in Kentucky. We lost the 2011 governor's race That was a ass kicking. Oh really? Yeah, that was not a great campaign I wasn't aware until I was doing research for this that like Kentucky was a blue state It was when I started Kentucky in 2000 my first campaign Bill Clinton had won it twice You want it both times and Kentucky it was overwhelmingly registered Democrat was it because of union union? You know It was a it was a traditionally a lot of Southern states were traditionally Democratic there were new deal Democrats, and I thought after civil rights act of they went red it was very Democratic and we had Democratic governors most of the time McConnell winning in 84 was kind of the beginning of it changing But even up until the 90s it was still you know Clinton won it twice, and so when Bush won it in 2000 That's when the the real movement started then when Obama One in 08 and during the Obama years can tuck you like a lot of Really rural states really really went that had to hurt to that 2008 so it hurt who you me? Yeah Well, I'd hurt the country and since I live in the country. You got to see this guy beg us to be all right It's like so he's like sings wait and look out then he rips his these things off and then look look at this Whoa, yeah, that's that's what I said you are yeah, I'm you're the handsome boot of campaigns or I get it now Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a better compliment. It was a great compliment because you you're a good flipper All right, let's get in okay, so for our audience. I don't know who you are. I'm how like how we you describe like someone you meet in that a Hudson news they say what do you do you're the airport they say what do you do for a living sir yeah what do you say well I'm senior political commentator for CNN so they bring me they bring me on the news on CNN to to analyze and debate the news with other people and you are like you're the conservative on the panel typically yes or you typically the only conservative on the panel sometimes but not always sometimes they bring on a second person but in many cases I'm the I'm the principal conservative arguer do you like the one on 50 kind of dynamic you get you get way more lies you get way more action I love the dynamic yeah and and it's and it's a fun you know it's fun to be that guy and you know in the lines then you know yeah I feel like after after you're done recording half the people are like fuck you Scott they have the people are like that's my boy over there you dropped a crazy one today Scott yeah yeah the professionals at this are the ones who who love it because they know it's it's good debates are good TV yeah yeah I go all over the country I hear two things I love you and I love the debates I hate you but I love the debates everybody loves debates the country was founded on debates and so CNN is smart to do it what was your favorite debate of all time oh gosh I mean in back in oh just generally yeah oh gosh you know I'll tell you one is a little obscure but when Dick Cheney took John Edwards to the wood shed in the in the they went hunting together 2004 no in the 2000 in that 2004 election that was yeah that was a great great debate yeah he recently passed I'm sorry for your loss yeah that's why I was thinking about it yeah I was watching I was watching old clips of Cheney just wearing Edwards out for like 90 straight minutes yeah the the vice president of children's is typically a shit show true but honestly Vance wore out you know I remember the ball's the fly on Mike Pence on Mike Pence's hat yeah but in the in the 24 VP debate you know those looks that walls kept shooting the camera yeah you know like he wanted into the wrong bar that right he was there's never been anybody in American politics more in over their head yeah that night that dim walls I think Joe Biden maybe well he was out by the yeah I think you well I Joe Biden uh the first debate yeah I was there for that yeah back in back in the summer did you think that I mean that's kind of him for America's kind of everyone is embarrassing by I said on TV my analysis was we need to pray for the president so I'm wrong with this guy your analysis was that Biden lost my uh no my analysis was that I'm not sure the country had a functioning commander in chief at that moment he was still going to be president for another six months is that when you found out because I heard behind closed doors he was just like what oh when I found out he was a genius level mathematician oh yeah yeah riding tricycles juggling knives being on TV while they were saying that like like did did you know that that was what did you how did you respond to that when people are like you got it you got just like when no one's watching yeah this is the this guy's great well I along with every other Republican had been watching this guy deteriorate for years and then we were often debating people or being interviewed by people who were like it's fine don't worry everything's good and it was this amazing uniformity uh in their analysis they were all saying literally the same thing sharp as a tack you know why why why why were they saying that because in at least in their communications are authoritarians once they decide what they're going to say they make them all say it and if you don't say it they get rid of you in a hurry like Republicans are good at like falling in line I feel like much better are we I mean yeah I mean we have a we have a strong party leader but you still have cats and dogs out there that make trouble for you I mean every every party deals with that I'm just talking about I'm just saying the Democrats I know what you're saying but in general the Democrats seem like way more of a mess well right now they have a leader their problem is they there's no person telling them what to do Joseph Stalin or Karl Marx perhaps yeah I mean that you know and they're not exactly alive to keep it under control but but but but but but they had they got no national party leader so you got people with different spheres of influence trying to do things you have news of the clown AOC news of the clown yeah oh you're coming out nicknames well the president has inspired me to nicknames really fell off though did they yeah like low energy jab was great little marco's great now he's just saying like bad Marjorie Taylor Green and he said Marjorie Trader Green that's oh he's back poke the hottest was Pocahontas was the greatest one still the greatest you remember when you remember when he was talking to the wind talkers he was like giving the medals he told him he was like he was like you guys have been here forever you've been here a long time there's another person who said they call her Pocahont and he's got one's in a wheelchair they have like dementia and he's like still talking shit about he really was what's your what's your favorite Trump like what's the funniest Trump moment to you funniest Trump moment yeah what was what was his number one for you oh man gosh it's I don't know I wasn't prepared to answer that I have to say his his his oh no I mean he is he's a lot of bangers do you remember the Easter egg roll the mega hat oh he's got the Easter egg roll and a kid gives him his mega hat and he signs it and he throws in the crap oh I like I like the one when he took the call from the kid about Santa Claus on the Santa Claus and he was like he was like it's a little marginal for you at that age yeah he's like grow the fuck up kid life is pain I mean do you think he's going a little he's going a little spicy these days oh spicy yeah yeah he's kind of going a little like like he's talking about like how hot guys are and stuff Arnold Palmer huge cock yeah he's like look at that guy oh my god I would kiss him I think yeah Zoran he was like a little bit like oh he was a little bit like flirting it was weird I've never seen that yeah have you ever seen him like anyone that's like not like another world leader like anyone yeah like he loves Modi for instance he likes other world leaders but I've never like Zoran's the first person underneath him that like Trump's like genuinely like had a crush on I think I think he likes winners I think he likes people who you know are succeeding at a moment I think he does and so because that's how he views himself yeah and and so it's great for the city if he loves if he's well he also he has a crush on Zoran that's good for us well he has a crush on New York City yeah he loves New York he only lives in Florida I know he loves New York City wait so let's get to you you're from Kentucky yep bluegrass state yep west Kentucky west Kentucky you're from a place called Dawson's Creek Dawson Springs I believe Dawson's Creek yeah they did make a show about it growing up what was it like when Pacey hooked up with the teacher well you mad at the teacher huge scandal it was a big scandal but you grew up like working class yeah right yep coal mining town small town my dad was a alternate times a garbage man and a factory worker you don't have to be woke about it you're that was a cisgender white male he was that's what they you don't have to call him a garbage man back when that wasn't cool he was yeah yeah that's what they call all of us fellers huh yeah he was these blue collar guy my step mom worked in a factory and cleaned houses yeah yeah and worked in a it went it various times my parents would be laid off she would work at a gas station overnight yeah but yeah blue collar folks great folks it was tough grown up I mean I never was it tough yeah I mean I never felt like it was tough like when we just grew up like everybody else I mean it's a poor area University of Louisville yep Cassie is Clay you live in Louisville now just outside of it yeah okay that's my home area so how do you so you commute to New York to do the show fly up to New York and bounce back between New York and Washington on a weekly basis some of our shows are in New York somewhere in DC okay yeah yeah it's a it's a heck a hellish it's a weekly commute yeah yeah and so you like New York now like have you had a carry Bradshaw moment since you been up here a carry Bradshaw moment yeah no but I do like New York yeah I like the park it's nice right we got a hell of a city yeah I can't believe he just voted to destroy it but yes that's a great point why I didn't was it on the ballot it was I voted for all I voted yes on all the on all the other questions your choices in the mayors race were destroy it sort of destroy it possibly destroy it slew I would be good you went you went destroy if we had slew I he would have like if you would have he's like if you got beef we got to break it down with some break dancing that would have been good yeah it's never good to wear a yeah who would you have voted for in the in the election if you were voting in New York who would I have voted for yeah I mean I traditionally vote Republican so slew up but beret is kind of a rough look though I know it's kind of not American what does he do with that if I had been consulting him I might have switched it out for a cowboy hat yeah yeah I don't know about New York cowboy hat I think it's kind of distinctive actually you know that there uh there's an area in New York called the hole in Brooklyn right and it's an area that's under the water table and uh basically it looks like a post like what the factory has closed down like you're in the middle of nowhere in the south right and it's a it's like a kind of desparado area okay I swear to God I'm not making this up it's uh there's a ton of bodies that the mafia dump there um they don't have sewage because it's under the water table it floods constantly there's like trailers there and stuff it does not look like the rest of New York and they have a uh a league of black cowboys they're called and it's uh dudes in uh cowboy hats and riding on a horseback they're like kind of patrol the area i'm not it's it's like moronic if i made that up do you want to go to the whole with me later no i did not know that it's it's actually a bizarre i mean if you want to go it's like it's like it's like that but when you're driving out to j_f_k_ you drive passie you don't even realize how it's like uh. by ozone park in the east new year i'm really selling the whole to you this is going to make the episode two okay so uh. you're a michael michael scholar i was at the university of the normal what what is that is for getting good grazers of the mcconald scholarship he set this center of thinking that a lot of kids in Kentucky go out of state so he sets up this center he raises all the money for it isn't pick the kids but they picked ten kids a year they get a full ride the immersed in a little yeah and it's kids who have an interest in public service uh. and other things and so i was lucky enough to get one of these scholarships i think if i hadn't gotten it i don't know what would happen to me and so it's it's true to say without mcconald uh. change the trajectory of my life and he's here like what are your mentors he was my mentor yeah uh. and you kind of work rising star hot shot yet very young like straight out of college you you ran the the two thousand presidential uh. racing contact you yeah uh. you flipped your first flip Kentucky flipped your first boon you got a drop that don't see that tonight i'll try i'm the binson boon of a camp in election if i dress like it would be no worthy what do you think of the light suit kind of obama style just think do you feel uncomfortable sitting next to a guy in a gay suit like obama was worried i was i was more worried about your boots than your suit do you why are you worried about my these are for farm laborers but now that i know where you hang out with the cowboys i get it i it's what do you mean i hang out with the cowboys you think this is some sort of like uh. what i think it's cool that we have cowboys in new york city yeah i gotta see this for myself i think you think i'm lying to you still can someone say i'm not lying killed it's true okay yeah alright it's on the way to java it's a terrible place i never go out there by the way i hate java although i've had to go to the west coast a few times more recently and so i've been out there more yeah and i hate it's the worst report in the world it's terrible it really makes me go to kill myself i want to go to luguardia where it's europe where it's fabulous where it's like an international mall that's how i get here from Kentucky we go right to luguardia yeah it's really nice so two thousand you're working like how did you at twenty two run a presidential campaign that was a reporter actually it's what was in college i worked as a journalist and i thought i was going to be a journalist and McConnell called me up at the end of the my college career and and said uh. you want to come work on this campaign for George w-bush so i said yes i left journalism behind for a bit and decided to get into politics and he kind of talked me into it we had a we had a blast with one Kentucky it was great and and did you meet Carl wrote like were you working in that year with yeah i did not meet Carl rove that year i i met him later and then i met him again when i work for bush in oh four yeah uh. but during that campaign though i just i was in my little office in Kentucky working away how and how what was the strategy there how did you flip Kentucky well um. bush was a better fit for Kentucky if you get it you had kind of an attitude that Kentucky like we've been trending that way a little gore though was from Tennessee and so they still they thought maybe treat him as a little bit of a hometown guy but he turned out to be such a crappy you know candidate and and really remarks rambore liberal yeah then uh. then probably uh Clinton was perceived uh. Clinton won Kentucky twice but he never got 50 percent of the vote but gore uh by labor day it was pretty much over and i actually spent some time in west virginia that fall because that was Carl's big bet was at west virginia which had also been voting democrat for a long time was going to flip to uh. and and so so like uh. who was like who'd you work with like do you met president bush during that election uh. i did meet president bush one time yeah during the election but i didn't spend a lot of time with him you know uh. he didn't he didn't spend a ton of time in Kentucky so you were like primarily campaigns and elections prior to work at the white house yes i did campaigns you know did journalism and then i did campaigns from two thousand two right right through two thousand right did nothing but campaigns and then oh five i went to the white house and then uh. of course in two thousand four you ran the uh. the new mexico yep uh. ground game for bush again and that was a flip to that was i'd never been to new mexico and they sent me out there they had some party troubles and some in fighting and so they brought in an outsider to run the campaign he was the only state that bordered texas that bush did not win in two thousand he lost it by three hundred sixty six votes and so we decided to try to flip it and we did we won by five thousand nine hundred eighty eight votes it was a great election yeah and i was uh. i guess it was at the bill Richardson election yeah yeah oh yeah there's a famous and funny moment uh. at the end of the election john carry was doing these uh. satellite tv interviews and he's sitting in a chair and he does one in new mexico and he thinks the camera is off uh. and but it's still on and there's footage of him going bill Richardson better fucking deliver and uh. of course he did but uh. but that's they they relied on him to win the state and we beat him uh. and so your profile was like rising in the in the g_o_p_ yeah yeah i was having a good run of it yeah yeah and you're fucking you know sorry for that word yeah i don't know if you cost you because minimum you just did a little yeah as a quote i i ordinarily wouldn't on CNN but given that this is more of the minor leagues of broadcast this is a really important show i don't know if you read the jiu-york times or the jiu-yorker or jiu q mag uh. sorry i don't know why i went self-hating jiu there i apologize minor leagues you really heard what would you say single a double a single a uh. now you get to double a double a well it's carpeted so if you're good you skip double a you go to triple a yeah so during your time in campaigns elections you you were known as a master of attack is that right well we're dubbed that i learned i learned from the best mcconnell i mean that was his mo uh. his campaigns were just slice and dice for me and and and you know his his mantra was always if you throw a pebble at me i'm throwing a boulder at you really that's how we were taught and that's how we were trained what was the mean this one you did the meanest thing we ever did yeah oh man i got i'll tell you one i was running a state senate campaign in Kentucky once and we got i had this college kid record secret audio of this guy running and kept referring to his constituents as redneck constituents uh. that's not mean and uh. well uh. for them down there it was i mean it was i got an asshole it was so derogatory and uh. but anyway i got this secret audio file that felt like james born kind of put it put it on the air destroyed this guy it was great do you remember the birthday card i do the hillary clinton so i think about i think about hillary clinton's birthday a lot because it's my birthday and uh. october the twenty six this is great and so at the end of this election uh. we sent uh. it was one of those birthday cards that you open and it talks uh. and so we as expensive yeah and the way you manufacture these things is crazy so i had been planning it all year because you got order the card and you got to record the chip the chip at the meeting her birthday all year yes okay and uh. and uh. we sent this we sent the hillary clinton birthday card out to like everybody in the state yes yes who's birthday is coming that's right hillary clinton and her wish we're gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business clinton says no let's ruin hillary's birthday send a message vote against every clinton democrat running jennings a regular calm calmness it said the mail or cost three to four times as much as a typical mailer and took much longer to produce of course it took a year to do that to ruin her birthday Scott what what had she ruined previous birthdays of yours everyone see we share a birthday every single birthday i've ever had has been ruined by hillary clinton i finally returned the favor another you know steven sigall and i have the same birthday oh really yeah should i ruin his birthday no he should have him in here is it annoying that he seen the size of that guy right now he's enormous yeah i mean he's a fat fatso yeah i hate that because he was so awesome you know i love that good under siege that is the greatest i just rewashed it i just rewashed it when that chick jumps out of the cake i know i know it was so offended it was like morally offended then they drug her to sleep do you know yeah yes and there's the god you know that um sigall it was a bet between a hollywood executive and an agent they said i can make fucking anyone famous even this fucking in the right here yeah literally that movie has Gary bucey in it Gary bucey and Tommy Lee and Tommy Lee Joe Tommy Jones plays a psycho i know it was outrageous yeah great film i love it dude cinema i love that i'm obviously rewashed it the second one not as good it was on a train not as good not as good no just like speed two was also on a train forget it we're the same guy um i don't know i think it's a little woke of you to do that to hillary a woke of me yeah like i think a real man shouldn't even know what his birthday is yeah i think that's alpha to be like i don't even have a birthday i made i don't even know what my age is are you one of those people that's like it's my birthday month no you're a real birthday bitch i don't i don't have a ton of recollection of ever really celebrating my birthday that much and then when i got it now you're backtracking now when i got it a campaign spin spin spin spin to end of the camp and everyone's too busy to celebrate my birthday, so we never have a birthday. Hillary has a birthday, I don't have one. I feel like every year she's putting out, remember in the election, she put out that tweet and it was like, you know, happy birthday to our future. It was like happy birthday to this future president and they put her picture from her yearbook. - It was so embarrassing. - That's how she celebrates. I don't get to do anything. So Emma was offended by it. So I can send her the card. - Scott, I'm really sorry, man. - No one wants to come to your birthday 'cause it's the campaigns. - Yes, people are too busy. They're knocking on doors. - Scott. - Slandering Democrats. - Maybe like, I'll come, like, maybe next year. - Yeah, I don't know, dude. - This year of the campaign. - Have you ever wondered if no one wants to come to your birthday because they don't like you? - They did not, I had not considered it. - So you've thrown a party and just no one showed up? - No, I didn't throw my own self a party. - Did you throw a party and no one showed up for me? - Last year. - Last year. - This make me really sad. We gotta throw you the biggest bash. - Yeah. - I think if we threw a party together at the black hole. - Yeah, yeah. - It's not the black hole. - No, Scott, I did not say black. - That's what you said. - I did not say black. - You racialized it. - I did not say black, Scott. - That's what you get. - You racialized it. - We'll roll the tape. - The hole. - No, you called it the black hole. - The black hole. - Jesus Christ, Scott. 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So, okay, I wanna talk to you about, before we go into your rise, 'cause I think you've had a fucking great year. Yeah, you've had a great year. I've had a great couple of years. I mean, the last year, you're a star now. Would you say-- I'm a lot of fun. Does it feel different? You know, it felt different the other day at O'Hare Airport when a guy tried to fight me at the McDonald's. Why was that? He has an unhealthy relationship with his television. And little, glirly walked up to me, like, "Chest bump me. You wanted to fight at the McDonald's." Yeah, and what did you do? I just, I told him it back away and not engaged with me. And he kept yelling at me. I collected my cheeseburgers and went to my gate. Really? Maybe you took his McDonald's. No, it was definitely mine. Were you scared? No, I wasn't scared, 'cause we were already past security, so I didn't think he'd have a gun, so. No, but it only takes, I mean, as we have found out, there are people walking around this earth that have take matters into their own hands attitude. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah, people shouldn't be mean to each other, yeah. They should not. Okay, I wanted to talk about you. So you joined the White House '05 to '08. Yes. As a crap time. We called it the salad days. You're having a rough one. Salad days? Why? And that what they say when things are going well? The salad days? Oh, I thought you guys were like, "No, it was great." Being liberal. Buddy, 30% of the country thought we were doing a good job. 30. That means 3 and 10 people that you meet were super happy. That's a lot. No, it's pretty bad, really. Yeah. I think the president's supposed to be pop, but-- I mean, 3 is pretty high. But the first term, if you were a political director, you would have been rocking it. Yeah, they were very popular. We were killing radical Islamic terrorists and protecting America. So we were very popular. What was that first year? It was Katrina. So '05 was Katrina. Shaivo. That was going on. We also had the situation in Iraq. I feel like they've bombed the Golden Dome mosque and they've got a little chaotic in Iraq. People in America were upset about the Golden Dome mosque? Well, people in America were upset about this was going on for a long time, and it was-- Were they ever like, "There's no weapons in Egypt." No. Do they think they were-- Yes. The CIA told them there were. Yeah. And so. But that lingering situation, Katrina, Bush, decided to try to reform Social Security. That did not go well on Capitol Hill. The privatization. But by the way, had he done that, the returns on the stock market from then till now would have-- Well, it would have tied into the S&P. Well, it would have allowed you to put a portion of your Social Security into a private account if you so chose to do that. And if you'd done that, you'd have gotten a much better return than the government's got on it now. I put mine in Trump-- the Trump crypto. Oh, well, if you got out at the right time, you'd degrade. Did it crash? I don't know. It's kind of trashy, this crypto. I don't understand the trash. I don't get it. It's user-y, right? It's against crisis. We can both agree. You shouldn't be able to-- what? To crypt the-- like you a coin for like a cartoon or something? I don't have any understanding of it. I have no idea. Sometimes they bring it up on CNN and I'm like, what the hell are you guys talking about? Yeah, we need to get a look into that. What am I at 12-year-old? Yeah, a monkey cartoon is money now. Like, I-- do you know? These guys are young. What is it? It's so annoying to watch stuff. You know what? Here's the thing. Yeah. It's like the only thing I can equate it to in my own life, I used to collect baseball cards as a kid. Me too, bro. And I had a magazine and it would tell you what the baseball cards were worth. Roger Clemens, $4.80. And I remember thinking, how could Roger Clemens be worth $4? He's like, Pokemon. It's worth whatever we say. It's worth. Yeah. It's worth whatever-- We say it's-- and that's what this feels like to me. Like, the baseball cards used to be-- now, they're not worth anything. Yeah. But they were at one time. Do you remember the playing cards for the Iraq War? I do remember that. The terrors-- Yeah, they were cool. And they would like cross them off. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was pretty awesome. Chemical Ali. I remember that. Who's that guy? He got the best nickname. He did have a good name. I feel like it may be put a little bit of a target on his back when his parents named him Chemical. But yeah, he was a DJ. Yeah, Iraq's biggest DJ. Me and my friend, I was a senior in high school of five. Me and my friends had a really inappropriate term about related to the shy vote. - You did? - Yeah, in retrospect, I mean, it wasn't cool, but we used to call getting really drunk, getting a shy vote. - Did you? - You were 18. - This is the first time you've admitted that? - Yes, and I'm sorry. - Okay. - It made your life difficult, and I'm sorry. - Okay, thanks. - What was it like, did you ever have to cheer Bush up? - Cheer him up? - Yeah. - Was he like, "Come on, again, everyone's pissed at me." - Pretty happy guy, you know, I didn't get to go to the Oval Office frequently for personnel meetings. We, I was part of the team that would recommend to the president, who to appoint to things. - Yeah. - And that would cheer him up. Hey, we found a guy who loves you, and we're gonna put him in this job. - Everyone was happy. - Yeah, yeah. Was he a funny guy? - Very funny guy, very nice guy. - Sweet. - Great guy. - And Cheney was also kind of a grandfatherly guy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just loving and very much, yeah. - They were great guys. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Rumsfeld was very funny. Remember in the press conferences where you do the squid, they'd be like, "Why is the Iraq war going so bad?" He's like, "Shut up!" - Yeah. - This thing, it was funny with that guy. - Back in that 2006 midterm, which we got destroyed. And the first one you guys, in 2002, was an unreal. - Well, Bush was so popular, but in that 2006 midterm, you know, a lot of people wanted Bush to fire Rumsfeld just as a political tactic. Like, let's fire the Secretary of Defense to, you know, for politics, and he wouldn't do it. I always admired that, actually, because he didn't want to play politics with national security, and he ended up firing Rumsfeld after the election. - Do you guys think that '04 in the presidential race, like a little bit like Will Ferrell hooked you guys up? - He did the most iconic. - The funniest guy in the world was playing your boss, and it was the most iconic impersonation. I think still to this day. - You guys say thank you to Will Ferrell a little bit? - Well, I love Will Ferrell, so. - He's the funniest guy in the world, he's incredible. But that impersonation, I mean, it was terrific. - Yeah. - Do you think if Alec Baldwin was better at Trump, "Friend of the Show," people might like Trump? He sucks, dude. - No, he's a good friend, one of my best friends. - SNL, it was the worst decision they ever made. When they got rid of Daryl Hammond, who was objectively the best Trump. - You know, he's a wild man. - I met him, I know him. - Yeah, yeah. - He's great. He's one of the funniest SNL. - He had a crazy life. - He's had a crazy life, and his, you talk to him about Trump sometime. He really studied how to do that, and he said, he had one of the greatest quotes about Trump. He said, "He's a genius impav." And I thought, man, this guy really did kind of study how to be Trump. When SNL canned him from that, that was stupid. - Do you think Trump would have been like 90% approval rating if they got like Daniel Day Lewis to play him on SNL? (laughing) - You think it's 'cause Baldwin did bad. - I think Baldwin played it. I think he did not do a great impersonation. A, B, he played it mean. Ham and played it funny. - Yeah. - Baldwin played it mean. - Do you think Trump is bullied too much? - Bullied? - Yeah, by the, by the media and by, yeah. - Yeah, well, it's hard to bully Trump. He's kind of an alpha, but I do think they're mean to him. - Yeah, they're mean to him. - But I think they were mean to Bush. I think they're mean to, if you're a Republican at that level, they're mean to-- - Is he serious? - Heard his feelings? - Yeah, Trump. - I don't know, probably not. He's the president. - Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, but we should, I mean, mental health is serious. Like, we can't risk a president having a mental health crisis. - Yeah, we've never had that. - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - I mean, and recent memory. - I mean, yeah. I want to do an exercise real quick. - Okay. - You're a debater, right? - Yes. - You have a craft, right? When you're on Abby Phillips show, you kill them. I mean, you're not gonna admit it 'cause you're a humble man, but you crush them. We have a good show. - But you crush everyone else. You're really good at that show. - It's a great show. - I love watching that show and you're the star. Do you consider yourself the star? You won't do it. - No, I'm not a star. - Abby is a star. - No, come on. - Abby's our leader. - But you cook them. - Well, she lets me sit there in debate. - Abby throws you the assist. John Soctin's south. - Abby, I mean, what we're doing is, no, there's no other cable show that has debates. - Yeah. - Every other cable show is six people sitting around here. - I'm going around next month. - You're coming? - Yeah. - Okay. - Why you laugh at me like this? - I think it's great. - 'Cause I'm a minor leaguer. - I mean-- - I'll see you on the battlefield, my friend. - They told me. I'm gonna, you don't even know what I'm gonna do to you. They told me they were having trouble with people. - I'm good. - I get it now. (laughing) - So rude. Just 'cause you did the Iraq war. You think you're gonna do. (laughing) All right, I want to do a debate. Like, you're an empath, do you believe in empathy? - Yes. - So sometimes you gotta put yourself in the other person's shoes. So we're gonna do an exercise where you take the opposite side. - Okay. - Of what you would typically do, just to like kind of as an exercise, display how good you are at debating. - Okay. - So the first topic, LeBron James should shut up and dribble. I want you to take the no and I'm gonna take the yes. So go ahead. - I should take the side that LeBron James should-- - Should not shut up and should not shut up. - Yeah. - And you should keep talking. - Yes. - And stop dribbling. - And just to display, A, you could put yourself in the other person's, Luke Keynesy boots, about him in Austin, when I was doing the-- - Yeah. - Shut up, dude. - They're nice. 'Cause you're doing ostrichs and I'm doing what? CAF. - Yeah, that looks leather. - What are you judging my B's for? Could you bring it up for me? - I just wasn't, I was surprised to see you wearing them. I like-- - 'Cause I'm a good old boy, both of us are. - Well, you go to the black hole with the cowboys. - I don't go to the, first of all, stop it with the black hole. - LeBron James should be able to give his opinion. This guy is an American. He has free speech rights and he's a civil rights leader. He is an inspiration for the people. And when you denigrate this man, by just saying he's nothing more than a basketball player, you take away his agency, you take away his humanity. And frankly, what you're doing right now is nothing short of racist. - Oh, come on, Scott. LeBron James is one of the most famous basketball-- - As you can hear me call you a racist. - Listen. - That's how you end debates. - Okay, get ready for the-- - Get ready for maximum pain. - It's already over. - LeBron James is one of the most famous basketball players in America today. But beyond that, he's a role model to kids. And since the beginning of 2025, we've seen over 1,200 deaths from talking while dribbling. LeBron James is obviously good enough to dribble a basketball and say a sentence. But he insists on doing crossovers while being loud at the same time. It begs the question, why is he doing it? If you study the cases, all but one of the people who have died were white. It begs the question, does LeBron James want all white children to die? I yield the floor to my esteemed colleague from the steam room at Equinox locker room, West Village. (laughing) Okay, next debate, I beat you. Next debate. So, okay, trans women are women. You have to say that they are, and I'm gonna say they're not. - I have to say that they are. - Yeah, you take the opposite side. Show how good of a debate are you are. - Okay, let's see here. Well, this is a tough one. Well, let me get in here. - No head, dude, you're the best of them biz. Do you show us how good you are? - Well, here's the bottom line. I'm not gonna let someone else determine what I am on the inside. Only I know what I am on the inside. - What are you? - What am I? I'm someone who understands and believes that trans women are women. And it would be completely irresponsible for me to go out and try to make them into something that they're not. Who in their right mind would try to make someone into something that they're not? That sounds like what a crazy person would do. - Okay, listen, I have no trans women. I've met trans women and I'm not afraid to say it. Trans women are not women. For instance, trans women tell stories that actually make sense and that go somewhere. Trans women are way smarter. They also are incredible drivers. If you're saying that a trans women aren't women, why do they earn one dollar for every one dollar that men earn, okay? Last one, let's do the last one. You are saying your take is that the Epstein files should be released, my take is that they should not. - Okay, yeah, I have to release the Epstein files. - You want to release the Epstein files? - Yeah, well, it's pretty obvious that a lot of rich, famous, powerful people got away with terrible things. Why shouldn't we shine a light on their terrible behavior and expose this cabal of the powerful for what they are? What's Pettos and absolute sick people who need to be punished? - Okay, there you go. That was a tough one for you too. Okay, okay, here you go again, Scott. Let me get this out of the way. Jeffrey Epstein's a monster, okay? He's a sex trafficker, he's a pedophile. I don't like Jeffrey Epstein before you try to pull a fast one on me. You're getting ready to do the thing where you say but. But, the Epstein files should not be released. Recently it came to my attention that Jeffrey Epstein is also a Jewish person and so am I. And in the current political climate of anti-semitism, we can't risk the anti-semitism that would ensue. We're people to know that Jeffrey Epstein was a bad guy. So, for that sake, okay, yeah. So effectively you're arguing that releasing the file, would jeopardize our national security? - Well, anytime a Jewish person does anything bad, I get nervous, like Steve Bartman, remember that? - Oh yeah. - Yeah, my dad and I looked at each other, and we were like, "Oh, God, don't be Jewish." And he was. Do you remember how Jewishly he, boy since I looves going for the fly ball? - I remember. - Ooh, that sort of ruined baseball for several years right now. - And my dad and I literally looked at each other, we were like, "Please don't be us, please." Okay, so let's get into like, let's get into this, like what you're asked about constantly. I don't wanna dwell on it. But like, in 2016, you wrote an op-ed and said that - Nine years ago, could you? - Nine years ago, back when fricking, you were a hippie. You said Trump was at an authoritarian, and then they say, this is what they say about you. Then you called him an old man with nothing to do from Florida after January 6th. You call him Florida, man. What is Florida, man? People say it all the time. I thought it'd say you're like addicted to pills. - No, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, - Old you? - It's some, it's some describer of some kind of behavior. - Okay. - I don't quite get it. - You kind of, you get hit on the thing that you were like, the guy on CNN that was like, Trump's, Trump's being a bad president, or after January 6th, you're like, I did not like that. - You did like, Jan 6th, and you kind of like, we're critical of Trump. You were like a Republican who was critical of Trump, and then kind of, what people labeled your turn as is a heel turn, kind of in a, no, no, in like a professional wrestling context. - What motivated your evolution, I'd say? - Well, first of all, I voted for Trump three times. - Yeah. - And I voted Republican my entire life. So it's not really all that unusual for me to be supporting Republicans. But I think of, you know, if you look back on all my years at CNN, you know, sometimes Trump does things I don't like, and I've said that on the air. A lot of times he does things. I like very much, and I've said that on the air. So, you know, I think there's a class of Republican out there that hates Trump so much that they want everybody to not just turn against Trump, but turn against their own party and vote Democrat forever and ever. And I just fundamentally disagree with that. - Yeah. - You know, we're in a fight for the future of Western civilization. You want me to go out here and vote for Kamala Harris to save conservatism? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. - Kamala Harris to save conservatism. - That's what their argument was in 2024. - Well, it is dick to that. - Your boy, Dick Chatey. - He did not, he supported his daughter. - He supported his daughter. - He did it for his daughter. - That's what I think. - Yeah, yeah. Your boy's from the White House when you were there. They haven't been very vocally supportive of Trump. - Some haven't. - Some haven't. - Is George, George is a fan or no? - Of Trump? - Yeah. - I don't know, I wouldn't want to speak for it. - I don't think so, but-- - Sounds like a no. - I mean, it seems like-- - By the way, it's fine. I don't care who you support. - I'm not saying it's bad or good. I'm just bad, but the people who get so upset about, you know, I could be critical of Trump one day and then, okay, we're now we're having an election. What's the best choice for the future of the country? It was a no-brainer for me. - I'm not saying Kamala is better. - That's what they were saying. I mean, all these people that get been out of shape with me all the time are mad that I didn't vote for Kamala Harris. It's a stupidest reason to be mad. - People are saying you should have voted for Kamala Harris? - They are. - Their argument was that all Republican should have been-- - They don't know, they're saying that. - No, to be a rhino, you'd have to be a Republican and they're not even Republicans anymore. They've left the party and they want all Republicans to join them in voting Democrat forever and ever. I don't understand it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't get it. I've been a Republican my whole life. - Okay, so I want to talk to you about like, you're rising your star profile. I didn't know who you were until you were a year ago. I don't really watch CNN. But I think because of like social media and clipping. - Yes. - You've kind of been a breakout star there. - Like what is the objective on the show? What do you consider winning, I guess, like when you're like getting into it on a happy film? - Oh, well for me, I mean, I'm trying to represent the best argument for, you know, basically half the country. I feel like I'm their principal channel for how they're absorbing the news and how they would debate a particular issue. I mean, my only mandate as a commentator is just to give my opinion based on my views, my values and my experience. - And they're really good at what you do, right? - But I think winning for the show is actually is the audience smarter for what they just heard. - Do you think that you've convinced people? - Convince? - Yeah. - I think oftentimes-- - You changed their mind? - And I think oftentimes I show up with arguments or vectors that people say, I'm thought of that. And the reason they hadn't thought of it is because I think we live in ideological bubbles right now. People aren't often presented with alternative viewpoints. If you're liberal, you're not hearing from conservatives maybe. And so the one guy that you hear from tells you something you hadn't thought about in a way. Yeah, I think we're raising some eyebrows in that way. - Do you think that, like, because the show is like the argument show, right? Do you think that it's a really, people are like, like really pissed off these days. And like, yeah, like political violence is on the rise. It's very divided times and people are like, in general, like the internet is all arguing, right? And that's probably why the clips have done so well because it's like a conflict-driven product, the show that you're on. Do you think it's like, is that good for people? Do you think it gets people more pissed like I wanted to fight you in the fucking airport? - I think that debates are good. I think politics is good. I think it's the way we solve our problems. So why are people trying to beat your ass in an airport? - Well, I mean, I get it. Some people have unhealthy relationship with their TV, but that's not most people. I think most people are smart enough to be able to absorb a debate and say, okay, I agree with this or I agree with that. I mean, it's how we solve our problems. There's no other alternative unless you want to do something like violence, which nobody wants to do, hopefully. - But it's also how you get people into it too. - It's good TV. - It's good TV, but you're making the show good, right? - It's a great show, but it's the debating format. People like debates, remember CNN had a history of this? We had crossfire. Everybody loved that too. Somehow we got away from debating each other, like to be able to confront someone or to have a debate, even if it's tense. That's okay, and I think one of the messages of the show is we're not always gonna agree. But if we can disagree and sit at the table and do it and then do it again the next night, I think that's modeling good babies. - So you think the people who watch you don't leave it more pissed? - No, I don't actually. I think they leave it, hopefully they leave it more informed because you heard somebody say something that you hadn't considered as part of the overall discourse. - You think, really? - I do actually. - Well, at least for me, I mean, look. Let's go Scott. - I agree with that. But also, I think sometimes what I'm doing is giving people a way to debate or a way to argue or sort of a debating vector that they hadn't thought of. And so I sort of feel like I'm informing - How do you giving your boys the roadmap? - Yeah, but I also think a lot of our audience is not conservative. And so I do think people out there look at these debates and they say, why would someone believe that? And they're gonna get the best possible answer to that if they listen to me. - What is the liberal media, I guess? It's used a lot like as a term. - I mean, our point of view is that a lot of mainstream or corporate media is framed or designed to frame things in a way that are inherently negative to Republicans or negative to conservatives and sort of positive to Democrats or positive to liberals. And look, look who works there. I mean, University of Syracuse did a study on this recently. Most people who work in the media are Democrats. Very few are actually Republicans. And so there's a perception that there is no balance. Do you worry that you're making money for the liberal media 'cause you're like the star of the show, you're driving ratings. Is there a conflict there inside of you? - A conflict? - Yeah, 'cause they're liberal media benefits. Like you're making cash for them boys. - I think they benefit when more Republicans turn it on. - Right. - And my job is and my mission is to make it safe for conservatives again. And I think we are. Everywhere I go, I have Republicans telling me, I hadn't watched CNN in years. I'm watching it now. There are more Republican office holders who are willing to come on. - Yeah, and that's good for them as the liberal media, no? - It's good for the media. - I'm not, this is like, gotcha. - No, no, no, it's kind of interesting. - I think it's good for the media in general when they aren't viewed as a wholly owned subsidiary of one political party. - Do you think that CNN would give you a show, ever? - I have no idea. - Have you out? You've asked. - Come on, bro. - You should have a show. What are the biggest stars of the CNN? - I have no idea. - Yeah. - I'm grateful for what I have. - Do they have a conservative show on CNN? - No. - No, 'cause of the liberal media. - We do not. - This should be an liberal media. (laughing) - What would you qualify as your like, political project, like currently? Like, what is the one thing that you're advocating for that you want to see happen? - That I want to see happen? - Yeah, like, down. - Well, look, I think we're not arguing about politics as usual anymore. I think there's a war on the future of the West. I think Western civilization hangs in the balance. I think Elon is right about this. - Who's fighting the West? - The East. - No, the West, the West is the civilization that has given us everything from the Bible to the University to the Constitution. - But who's against the West? - Well, let's see. How about the terrorists in the Middle East? How about the people who think the United States of America was a rotten failed experiment? It needs to be ripped out, root and branch. - Who said that? - How about people who believe that we should have mass migration from all over the world and no borders? How about that? - Who's the idea is that? - The left right now. - The left, what is their project? - What is their project? - That is their project. - Really? - And also people who are-- - Do they say that? Do they say we want everyone to hear in America? - Yeah, pretty much that's what they run on. - What do they say? They say that in a debate. They say, they have senators going to El Salvador to have my ties in Yancey with MS-13 gangbangers that we deported. Yeah, that's pretty much it. - They go on vacation with Emma's 13th? - Yeah. - I thought it was to look at that scary prison place where everyone has to sit on the floor. - Did you guys see the picture they're having Margaritas? - They had a drink? - Yes. Van Holland has having drinks with Kilmarabrego Garcia. This is what they run on. - Oh, the guy they got deported. - Yeah, well he's back now. - He had a drink with him? - Yes. - That's a weak one, bro. - Dude, look it up. They're not having a drink. - If you're not better prepared than this for Abby, you're gonna get cooked. - I don't know. No, I am. No, that's fine, 'cause you just pivoted. No, that is a stretch. - It's not a stretch. - A guy had a drink with a guy that was deported. - Yes, a senator. - A US senator went to El Salvador on taxpayer money to show his fidelity with the-- - That prison is really a scary place, no? - They weren't in the prison. They were at a dinner table. - But you saw pictures of that prison is scary. - Was it? - I'm not saying that's scary for me. - I'm not saying that. - You think it's cool that prison? - I think deporting illegal aliens is what the American people voted for last year. We are fighting ill-liberalism right now in the world. There is a whole bunch of people out there who have given up on speech, given up on debate, and they think politics should go beyond it. It's this ill-liberal, undemocratic views. - Who's given up on speech? - It just-- - I just think there are people, actors in our politics. And I'm not saying it's fully confined to one side. But there's a lot of ill-liberalism out there when it comes to speech and debate. And it's one of the reasons I do the job that I do. - You guys don't like free speech, either. - We love free speech. - No, you guys, like, band Harry Potter and shit. - In schools? - Yeah, you should probably-- - It's too scary to have Harry Potter and the school. - You guys are trying to band the person who wrote it. - What? - What do you mean you guys? - What? - I love Harry Potter. If you're gonna-- - I watch all those movies, Eric Christmas, which I sell right now. But you like J.K. Rowling? - I don't care. - I don't think everything has to be politicized. - A lot of people need to know. - But you guys do band books and stuff like that. - Do we? - Yeah, like books. - Porn? - I think like a-- - A porn for children. - The same gay in a school. You're not allowed to say it or something. Who fucking cares? I mean, like-- - Who cares about whether little school children get pornography in their library? - Poor no? - I mean-- - Who's got poor no in libraries? - You'd be surprised. - Scott, come on. Scott, brother. Scott, there's no poor no in libraries. - I know, we got rid of it. - What poor no's did they get rid of? - Dude. - Nailin Palin was in a school? - What are you fucking? - Scott, obviously that's like some fucking hysteria bullshit. I mean, yes, the Democrats are scolds these days. And it's annoying, right? - They're our schools. - But you're not, they're not like putting like gang bangs in an elementary school. They might be. - No, they're not. - Hey, you might want to look into it. - No, just be a grownup for a second. - I am, I'm trying to-- - You think Pelosi is like telling kids to watch like porn hub? It doesn't make sense. - No. - What it makes, did you hear that? Is that a rumor? - No, I'm saying what are you trying to say? Like what, that there's hardcore sex in schools that is coming from Chuck Schumer. He's like we have to put the most nasty stuff in kindergarten. That's not a real thing. - I don't know if Chuck Schumer has specifically - So who's doing the porn in the school? - But there have been numerous documented instances where, in schools and school libraries. - What is the porn that was in the school libraries all over the country? - You're saying something, but it just tell me. - Yeah. - Just educate me if I'm a pornographic material is aimed at very young children. - Which ones? - Which ones? - Do you want a list or are you looking for a weekend reading? - Tell me one. Tell me, I'm asking, because it doesn't sound right to me. I'm low information, but it sounds a little ridiculous that that's a real thing. - It's like, there have been numerous documented instances of highly sexual, highly pornographic materials that have shown up in libraries where legitimately small children can access it. I have a problem with that. - In a school, in a library. - That just doesn't sound right. I know. - You could Google it, you have an iPad. - No, you're just saying something that you're not. - Scott, you're stalling because you can't think of one. - Well, I don't want to, I don't know what the names of it is. - You should know the names if you're making a claim. - I should carry around the names of pornographic books. If you're saying that this is happening, you should say the thing. - Okay. - Just destroy Scott once again, guys. (laughs) - Smothery Rubble. - I mean, I don't care. I mean, they shouldn't, yeah, they shouldn't look at porn. Obviously agree with me. - Yeah, you should do it like I did, you know, my day where I had to go to the woods and find a magazine that my friend's older brother left there in the woods. - Yeah, that's what porn used to be before the iPad, before you can see anything. I don't think that's good, but I don't think it sounds like the Democrats are saying, let's put some nasty stuff in front of babies. It just sounds a little bit like not the real world. - Okay, you're welcome to believe that, but I think you're wrong. - In your book, how much, how much porno is it in this thing? - Zero. - 50%, yeah, 50% porn. - Yeah. - And it's kind of like a Fabio romance novel. It's like, I caught Donald's eye across the room. - And here's the, there's something in there for everybody. No matter what your kink is, you'll find it in the pages. - What outfit have you worn on TV that you're most proud of? - Most proud of? - Yeah. - I wore a Pilgrim hat on TV last Thanksgiving. - And that's, that's, that was your greatest. - I was fairly proud of it. Oh, yeah, I was fairly proud of that. - And what did they say to you about, that's a settle, a colonial style? - They, they were initially surprised, but it was live television, so they couldn't stop me. Oh, I also wore a Hulkamania t-shirt on Abyshow one night. - That is cool. - And I'll tell you when I did it, when they appointed Rubio, Secretary of State. - Little Marco, I called him. - And I said, and I said, well, who are they gonna appoint Senator? I wore my Hulkamania, 'cause he lived in Florida. I was like, we should have, I said he stands up to the Russians, and he stands up to the Iranians like the Iron Cheek. We need Hulkster in the Senate. So I was pushing Hulkster for Senate. - Oh, I thought you meant Rubio stands up. - He does, but you gotta point it out. And so we had to put in a new Senator. - He was a little. - And I wanted the Hulkster. I wish the Hulkamania was the, I wish you, brother. I wish the H-H brother was the president of the United States. - I was in touch with his people about getting him on my radio show, and then he died. I was so, 'cause I just started in July. - Yeah. - Man, I was, I just-- - Have you ever read that tweet about Atlanta that he did? - Atlanta. - Yeah. He's like, just landed in hot Atlanta brother H-H. - Hot Atlanta? - Yeah, he did, instead of hot Atlanta, he called it hot Atlanta. - That's great. - I'm in. - Who's God? - Is this all right? (upbeat music) (upbeat music)