124: Scorsese TikToks with Eddie Pepitone | Soder Podcast | EP 122

Hey everybody, I hope you enjoyed this episode with one of the funniest human beings on the planet at Epitone. He's the man, make sure you watch his special on YouTube, and come see me on the road. Texas, Oklahoma, I'm coming to see you. Enjoy this episode with Eddie Peptone, and maybe while you're listening, and you live in Dallas, Houston, or Oklahoma City, you buy tickets. Dallas is close to sold out. That's March 19th. March 20th, I'm going to be in Houston, Texas, Houston. Come and see me. I know I said the name of the venue wrong, and they got mad, because it's the colon performance hall. So I'm sorry. If this is why you're not buying tickets, Houston, I apologize. I was wrong. It's the colon performance hall. Come see me at the colon performance hall. If you're mad at how I'm saying it or anything, I promise I'll correct my behavior. But go to dancoder.com. I'm going to be in Houston, March 20th, and then Oklahoma City, March 21st. Bring in Matt Ross and Brendan Sagalo. It's going to be a hell of a show. You got the band back together, baby. Oklahoma City, I'm going to be at the Tower Theater, March 21st, dancoder.com. Please buy tickets, and I'll see you out on the road. Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour almost done. There's only a few weeks left before we film this. So come and check out one of the shows, dancoder.com, full listings for all the dates. I love you. Enjoy the podcast. I'm sorry if I interrupt. I promise I'm trying to work on it. I just get so excited. First time I got to like really watch you do a set was at the old creek in the cave on like a Wednesday night for like maybe 12 people on this show Rebecca Trent used to produce called monsters. I think so. And you just talked about the Pulaski Bridge for 15 minutes. It was one of my favorite sets I've ever seen in my life. And now I know what the Pulaski Bridge is. I used to cross that bridge all the time, and I was always like, it's the bridge that goes between Queens and Brooklyn, and you were like, this is where comedy lives at the foot of the Pulaski Bridge. Well, you know what it's like. It's like when you're up there, you're like trying to find that vein of something that inspires you to be funny. And I think that night I just loved the name Pulaski and that bridge I had never been to that to Rebecca's place over there. And that bridge is so kind of ominous. It's right across the street. It's this huge steel structure. And it also isn't sexy like a lot of the bridges in New York. Brooklyn Manhattan. You have all the Williamsburg bridge. They have all this like the Pulaski bridges like this is very necessary. So you don't get it's a very like inner burrow bridge where it's you almost don't even realize you're going Queens to Brooklyn. And then you're like, oh yeah, I guess I did just cross over. How did we just go into Queens? I don't know. I don't know. It looks all the same. You grew up in Brooklyn. Yeah, I grew up in Brooklyn until I was nine. I grew up in Brooklyn enough to get traumatized by by different things. Well, what I mean, crime or what traumatize you a little bit of crime. Yeah, you know, I was I was threatened as a child. My parents would do that. My parents threatened me. So you could take the New York energy anywhere. I can't go. You could be I was I was erased in Brooklyn, but my parents brought the Brooklyn energy to Iowa when they told me they would cut my feet off if I thought to the cops. Did you see any I'm thinking of this because I was watching it last night. Did you you see any of the Scorsese documentary yet? No, it's on Apple TV. Yeah, what's screw me up about Scorsese here right now. Yeah, he's due his daughter is doing social media content with him. And it feels like when they made. Do you know at the end where they where they made Jake Lamata perform or what they're doing right now with raging bull? Yeah, no, but at the end where he would do those live shows and he's doing like, yeah, he was doing. Oh, no, don't tell me. It seems like that. That's what it feels like. I like, I don't really know if Marty knows what's going on where she'll be like, we're doing an internet trend and he'll be like, and his daughter's way younger than him, you know, because he had a hey out of his old dad. Oh, man, this, you know, these big guys who try to take their family along. You're making me feel crazy. Just say it's nepotism. And then I'll get over it faster. Right. I'll go, hey, it's nice to be born into a family like like the Vanderbilt's or the fucking Rockefellers were going, it's not nepotism. My son's taking over the company because he did very well. Look, standard oil would have went to someone just like him. My son, I wasn't going to give it to a Rockefeller. It just happens to be the same last name. We took a lot of applications. And my son, John Jr., just happened to be the best fit it. That's the part that I don't, that's the disconnect between famous people and reality where you go, just admit it. And then we can get over it. It was like when Liberace came out and I talked to me about Liberace. It was funny, my grandma like thought Liberace was straight until like the 80s. You know what I mean? I recently watched again, good night and good luck. Oh, yeah, that was our mirror. Yeah, with that one, our mirror. And he interviewed Liberace and he was like, add, I, he got something, the question was like, are you thinking of settling down, getting married? And he was like, add, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, but I'm just looking for the right woman. Yeah, and you know, sure. A woman that's a man. It was the, it's the same with like Clark Gable. You still live with this other Hollywood star. And it was clear that they were gay and in love. And you look at their pictures. And it just recently came up on the internet that I saw in this subreddit old school cool. They show pictures of like old stuff. And it was a magazine spread. And it was like going Clark Gable. And I forget who the other guy is as they show you their bachelor pad. And they're like at the pool, sunning. And they're like, they're sunning. Look, they play chess. Oh, they have a dog together. It's like they're a gay couple. Yeah. And then they were like, and then people in the comments were like, it's actually a very sad story. Like they were in love. Yeah. And the studio was like, hey, you cannot be seen with it. Right. And that's when it's sad, but you're like, right, it fooled people. Absolutely. People weren't that savvy unless you were a jazz musician back then. There he goes. Yeah, maybe they suck each other. Yeah, right. That's what it is. Honey, I'm going to tell you right now. They play each other like Trump. And they're like, oh, stop it. Would you leave me alone? Stray cat Alan? Or they have a jazz name. They always knew what was happening. The jazz guys. Why was that? Was it because they were just out performing a nightclub? I think so. And they were smoking weed. And like they were the fringe of society. I don't really know. Dan, I, I just threw that out there. I didn't know I was going to get grilled on the lick. I don't know. Why is it? With the jazz people. This is what you get for talking to somebody that's a lifetime pot head is you get lifetime pot head questions. Where you go? Why is that? I never thought about that. But yeah, I mean, those like Liberace coming out. I almost want to do research on it because he did come out. Can you look that up? I want to see if Liberace actually was like, by the way. I'm gay. All these candelabras are for a reason. I like to see. I like to light pussy. Yeah. He came out on Theo Voin's podcast. That's what it was. He's like, he's like, man, that makes a lot of sense. You fucking. I have a friend named Strait Liberace. He just wears a lot of diamonds. Liberace never officially came out as gay. Publicly denied his homosexuality until he died of AIDS-related pneumonia in February of 87. Man, AIDS was like, if you guys aren't going to say it, I'm going to say it. AIDS definitely AIDS did in the 80s. Oh, yeah. To me, my fucks are keeping a secret. Yeah. Yeah. The AIDS was like the great liberator. Well, it's what's, you know, my family is from San Francisco and they would almost talk about it like an army invaded San Francisco where they'd be like, well, then 80s, you know, in the 80s with AIDS. And you're like, yeah, you guys had so many bath houses. There's probably the bath houses. The bath house industry took a beating. It did. It did. Yeah, I never got to the bath houses. Yeah. I still have friends who tell me, not kidding, who tell me to go to the Turkish bath. Oh, the Russian bath. Yeah. They say it, you know, it's great. Like it gets all the toxins out. I'm not trying to sleep with you. I'm not playing. I'm not trying to play with your penis. You get the fuck out of my face with that. And they all, all right. It's funny is if you do take that stance, you just look incredibly homophobic or like I'm not going to bath house. It's a soak. Your skin. It's a, it's a call it a soak. Yeah. They have one word descriptions of it. But you said you grew up in Brooklyn until you're nine and you're heavily traumatized. Oh, you know, yeah, I mean, I think of this course as he thing because he, I kind of understand him now. I've watched three episodes of this doc. And I always was like a little critical because I'm an asshole. Of course, Sezi being so violent. Like just incredible violence. And then I have to watch and this shit. He witnessed it. - Oh, really? - And his, you know, the neighborhood he grew up in. He grew up in Martin Mulberry, he had an uncle who was in the mob like it was right there in his face, you know, he grew up with tough kids. You know, he was an asthmatic who. - Which by the way, back then, good luck. - Not good. - I thought you were defective. - Yes. - Like I grew up in the 80s and 90s and if you had an inhaler then everyone was like, "What the fuck is wrong with you?" You're asthmatic, but imagine in those 50s and 60s. - Oh my God. - Growing up and people were like, "Marty can't breathe." And he's like, "Please stop killing people in front of me." - So what he did because he really couldn't go out much because of his condition. He would just look through his window and he had a bunch of windows and they were saying it was like frames in a film, you know. - Holy shit. - So he was just groomed because of his asthma. Spike Lee was interviewed. And he said, "Thank God for asthma." We got one of the best filmmakers ever, so. - But that's always a thing with, I was obsessed with biographies for a long time 'cause you always see like a through line of something that where you go, "Oh, it was their weakness." And then they made it their strength. - Yes. - It's like Scorsese trapped inside, but then we get good fellas, raging bull, we get casino 'cause you watched all that shit. - Exactly, watch that shit and I know it too from just having great fear locked up in me and comedy is such a great way to get it out, I think. I don't know about you, but cathartic, it's a cathartic thing sometimes. - When you say something that you think only you feel and you feel insecure for feeling it, the first time you say it in a joke in more than one person laughs, you go like. - Yeah. - Holy shit. All right, maybe I'm not completely alone in this. - Oh, exactly. - Yeah, that's always the thing I've always loved about comedy when you go like. - I can talk about something that used to traumatize me and now I can make fun of it and people go like great. - That, actually I realize that that's the deal. Like if you could really be honest about your shit and people like, oh, thanks man. Like I get a lot of thanks man, you really helped me through the pandemic. I'm like really? - Well, 'cause you do, what I love about it you is you come in with this energy of like, I can relate to feeling it, even if I don't express it. I mean, the way your last special starts with just the Apple Watch is-- - It collapsed. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Where you just like immediately go and do it and you're like, what kind of fucking data do you want from me? Like I am fall, I am fall, I'm falling emotionally, I'm falling and you're like, it's not a fall, it's one long descent into hell, that's right. - Yeah, exactly. And that's what I think is like, when someone says that, you can feel anxiety and not know that you're feeling it and then someone can say something that you got, that is what I'm feeling, I feel fucking crazy right now. Especially with the monitoring everything. - Everything now is like going off the rails, dude. - Yeah, this is why I was saying, you know, it was a joke that I did, but I don't really know if I'm gonna keep doing it on stage, but I was like, I, for the first time in my life, I identify with people who are anti-trans. Because a lot of these anti-trans people are like, don't give kids chemicals, you shouldn't let, and I, you know, I'm a pretty compassionate person where I go, I think they should let their lives, but the reason I feel that way is 'cause they're starting to give fat kids ozemic. And I go, don't, yeah, and I go, don't do that. We need our fat kids, we need our funny people. You're, you're, the pharmaceutical industry is gonna take away our charming, sweet, and funny people. You need for our kids. - Oh, we need our, another angle is we need our scapegoats, we need certain people to be fat. So we can feel better about ourselves. - Exactly, that's something. - Also, I've always wanted to put a chocolate ice cream in a Klondike bar, but maybe it was a fat person that was brave enough, maybe it was a, you know, a former fat teenager, let's, let's say, let kids, and I wasn't fat as a teenager, but I did have an abnormally large head in a very skinny body, so it was a different thing. I wouldn't want head shaving surgery. Let these big domed kids know that it feels like to not find a fitted hat. - I didn't know they're given kids ozemic. - You're starting to give them that, like, weight loss thing. There's like, it always starts with the rich people, but then it trickles down, 'cause rich people do it, and then middle class, what was the middle class people now go, like, well, I gotta do that for my kid. And honestly, insecurities, I don't think when you're a teenager, you realize that insecurities become your superpower when you're older, just like Martin, like what you were saying when Martin Scorsese, he's like, - Yeah. - He's like, inside, can't breathe. - Yeah. - And now this guy is still making great movies for four decades. - Yeah, what was his last one? - After the Irishman, he did-- - Oh, the Irishman. - Flour killers with armas. - All of the armas. - Really good. - See what I mean? - Yeah. - Good for a asthma. - Exactly. - Exactly. - Good for a, yeah. - Yeah, but you're saying that he's now looking a little old with his daughter doing this. - He's trying to do modern things. - He's trying to do TikToks and stuff. - There should be, somebody should do parodies. - Of old celebrities doing TikToks with their daughter. And like, they have complete dementia and their daughters are like, what's that? - See, they're like making them like, this is him with his daughter doing a trend. He just looks bothered by the camera. He's not even rapping. - What the hell is she in? - A cool aid costume in his office. - Oh man. - That's what I mean. And you watch it. And he just looks bothered at the beginning. - He should. - What are you doing? - Yeah. - Why are you filming me? - I don't know. I can see him being interviewed. My daughter is, you know, it's so funny how did he own him talking shorthands like the Italian thing where they don't say much, you know, because, you know, enough said. You know, he's like, I don't know what my daughter's like. - No, just going for the right. - I didn't like the way his daughter shot that. - Oh, he wouldn't have shot it like that. I'm just saying. - Yeah. - They bring into Nero and all of them to interview about the movies and they ends up talking about her TikTok, but she doesn't have a lot of followers. You know, not a good look. - I myself thought about getting into TikTok. - Yeah, I wish I had a dude named Nero going, I got a baby about five years. I'm not going to know where I am. I got a, does he have a baby? - He just had a baby at 80 years. - Him in Puccino? Puccino at a baby at like 80? And I know it's talked about, but it's like, what are you doing? - I had a bit where I was like, I was like, you know what kind of father Puccino is? Like, he's at home going, get this fucking thing off my fucking foot. (laughing) - He doesn't understand what the fuck it is. - Right, he's like, he's just too old to deal with. - I'm wondering, why is there a little child driving my life? I need to know what this is. It's not a human. It doesn't eat solid foods. - Great. (laughing) - So now I'm in parenthood. - Yeah. - You almost wonder if he was tricked into coming in that woman, or if she was like, this is part of the massage, Mr. Puccino. (laughing) - Who is he? - Is it someone he's been with for a long time? - It's Barbara Walters, 82 years old. That's so funny. She was 29. - And he was 82. - Well, that's the life's child. - He looks good, Puccino. (laughing) - Betty, I don't agree with you. He always looks like he just took goggles off his face. - Oh my God, I didn't know that. Wow. - He looks like he was watching Oppenheimer, like, he was in the desert, lost in the explosion. (laughing) (laughing) - That's gonna kill a lot of Japanese people. (laughing) - He's just taking all those of you guys. - Yeah, I think it's powerful enough. - Yeah. - Oh, I'm gonna blow up a lot of, (laughing) that was Oppenheimer. I'm sorry, I think we have to go with Celia Murphy. He's just a little more. (laughing) I want to play Oppenheimer. Whoa. (laughing) - Oppenheimer. - That's a big bomb. - I love that we're doing Oppenheimer and Deneer Odie's old school. (laughing) - Gen Z gets it. - Yeah. - But I do think that should be a new form of elder abuse is social media clips when they don't know what they're doing. Trends that they don't know. - Yeah, and force, yeah, I guess it would be forcing that. - They are forcing them. - Really? - There's no way Martin Scorsese was like, hey, did you see the, the Fornon Blons Nicki Minaj thing where it's half Fornon Blons and then you rap Nicki Minaj. - Can we do that? (laughing) Honey, honey, let's do the Nicki Minaj. I'm gonna set this up. I need nine hours to set up the shop. He's just continuously filming. She's like, we did it. Oh no, you found another thing that upset you. - Is this another score, Susie? - Yes, yes. The kid, you would think the kid would be better looking. Just because, no, I mean it, just because he's a big celebrity, you would think they're, they get raised in an environment where they would be expensive lotions. - Yes, lotions. - They go to, they go to the parts of the world where the sun doesn't give you cancer. - Yes. - Like St. Barth. - Am I, am I out of line to say that? - No, not at all. I, can I, can I be honest with you? And I know this is probably gonna be a popular opinion, but I thought a very similar thing when I saw it for the first time. I went, woof. Like, Marty, you're gonna have a kid old. Better be a hot kid. (laughing) - Yes. - Kiss, kiss, come on. What are you doing? - Not a hot. - Just like, kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Also, they, it's never the celebrity that wants to do the trend. And then it just makes me think like, well, your daughter's just holding you up. Your daughter's just making you do this. This is elder abuse. - Yes. - Maybe if you would have abused your kid more, they wouldn't have, you know? I don't know. I'm just trying to get back to it. - Oh really, I'm popular. (laughing) - I didn't know this was the popular podcast. Bob saying all the stuff that everyone's afraid of. - My manager, like, Eddie, we've had some problems with the soda podcast. - We have to have it pulled. (laughing) He got you to do a TikTok trend where it's very big in the Charlie Kirk community. - Oh. - There you go. - You got Eddie Peppetone to walk right into that. - Oh, God, so you, do you have a kid? - No. - Okay, good. - No. - Because I do this thing where I go. - Do you believe people are still having children? - It's crazy. - Has anybody glanced at a newspaper? - It's crazy. - Or just looked around? - Also, have you ever, have you felt the weather? - Yes. - We're getting days in the summer that are 112 in places and it snows like it's fucking day after tomorrow. - There we go. - And we go tomorrow. - And then we go, oh wow. - This is a good time to have a child. - Well, it's the people that go, it's called global warming, I thought. And then they're having kids and you go, you need, that apocalypse. - Chrome people have a lot of kids. - Yeah. - It's gonna be a nuisance for the apocalypse. - Yeah. - Oh, God. Yeah. - 'Cause you're gonna have to kill your kids. - Totally. - Not me. - Totally. - They're gonna have to be used for fuel like children. - Yeah. - And at best case scenario, you're giving up the youngest one for adrenochromes for the leader. You know, so they can still-- - I don't know what that means, but it sounds good. What's an adrenochrome? - It's a fake theory that the Illuminati, they said like the Clintons and all of them would scare kids and then drink, just flew it out of their brain that gave-- And you go, that's so made up. - Oh, God. - That it's just fun to reference. - By the way, what has happened to our world? And do you think there'll be a civil war? - Possibly. I think your seems like it's going in that direction. - I think the way we get out of this is what Colin Quinn said. - What do you say? - He said we either sell the United States. As he says, knock down the rock, he's doing open concept, which is one of my favorite lines. - I love him. - But he also was like, he made a great point in his special Red State Blue State, where he said the difference, I'm going to fuck up this, but the difference between Minnesota and Florida, think about culturally how different those two's are. It's the difference between like Germany and Italy, where he's like, it's the same distance. And those are two completely different countries with different histories. - Oh yeah, right. - He's like, maybe we just split up. Maybe we bake in the specialty goes, 250 years, that's a good run for a band. You break up, you break up, and maybe we, I don't know. I think it's going to shift to, I think the internet is doing more harm than good. - Yeah, I think so too. - As we just talked about Martin Scorsese, one of the greatest artistic minds of our, - Right, getting, getting, - I have a lot of artistic, there was an article today that TikTok settled, did you see this settles a lawsuit about being addictive? And they admitted they, I don't know, certain ways, they marketed or something. - Well, they do it like the same way that, people get addicted to slot machines, where every time they pull it, there's 60 minutes piece, like 15 years ago about this, where they said, yeah, it was like around 2011, 2012, they did a piece where they were like, the guy, it was a former programmer for Facebook, this is when Facebook was still the rage. And he was like, no, we, it's a targeted dopamine hits. - Oh yeah, that's been going on. - Where they got like, if you keep going, then we'll give you something that will create a reaction out of you. - Oh, I wanna keep going. - Yeah, that's where it is. - So that's where it is. - So that's where the book and this was a wild-go dopamine nation. - Oh yeah, yeah, that's a, I mean, they found out a way to just like, get us to be lab rats and touch the button. - Absolutely, I lately, I just like Instagram. I don't know why I don't do TikTok. - See, I stopped with Instagram. - You did? - There was a thing about it that might have to. - Bumming me out. No, I still post on it, and I still will look at it, but it became, it lost being my primary thing. I like Reddit, 'cause Reddit's really good for-- - Are you serious? - Yeah, but I don't go to the comedy shit. I go to like sports or movies or entertainment, and then you go, now granted, you can get lost down wormholes in that. - Oh, absolutely. - Very, but like, my negative experience with Reddit was going on and looking at comedy shit. 'Cause I love comedy shit, and then I would see stuff that would just make me, I don't go to any of my friends subreddits, I don't go to any, I don't, I keep it impersonal. I want it like, if you look at my feed, it's all like sports, movies, wrestling, and then like, red dogs, a lot of dog stuff. - Of dog stuff. - But now, the algorithm grabbed me. All they're putting up now on Reddit, and my algorithm feed is dogs that are dying. - Like good, no. - Like, final posts, and I went-- - I can't do that. - I had to mute it. - I had to mute pics of dogs. - I'm sorry, or slash pics of dogs. But I had to mute it, because I was just like, on my couch and I'd be like, this is Buster. He's been through everything, and you go, I know, the second I see where it's going, I can't read this. I was crying on the toilet this morning. - I watched a video where a dog had a, they now selling very little guns to dogs, and he had a gun to his head, and the voiceover was like, if he doesn't get something to eat soon, he's gonna blow his brains off, up, no, out. - Out. - I would love the commercial of you, and then you walking down the kennel going to camera. Hi, I'm Eddie Peppetone. Dog suicide is a very real guns. - I have a bit where, do you know about the pentagon, of course, that's done this robotic dogs? - Oh, you're talking about Boston Dynamics. - I think so. - Yeah. - Yes. - Oh, you were on top of that. - I'm very afraid of them. - Oh my God. - The way they move, like the road. - Oh my God. - Reep. Reep. - Yes. - No, no, no. - Oh, of course, they're contracted out by the military. - Of course. - And the LAPD used them in a host, you know, this might, but I have this bit where I go, you know, these robotic dogs. First of all, thank you pentagon for making my favorite thing in the fucking world into a dystopian nightmare. But secondly, I'm still worried about him because I'm worried about the strays, the stray robotics. I mean, once the software is upgraded, there's gonna be all these strays roaming around and they can, you know, they're nimble, yes, and they can move 150 miles an hour, yes, they're weaponized. But I could see someone like this a bit, the Sally Strothers, someone like Sally Strothers, saying, these dogs need to be loved too, even though they don't have any emotions. And the dog is just climbing up and down a skyscraper behind her. (laughing) These dogs have nowhere to be plugged in at night. (laughing) - Oh, that's good. - I'm gonna take that. - Help find a place for them to port. Yeah, it is the second that they were going like, look at this, 'cause I liked him at first when I went, whoa, look at that robot's walking by itself. And then they start doing stuff when they go, I pushed it over and it got back up and you go, don't push it, don't push it. It's gonna remember that. (laughing) It's gonna remember that. It's gonna be like. - I see them kickboxing now. - It's crazy. - And it's like, no. - And the part that upsets me is watching humans be excited for it, 'cause you go, do you don't see any problem? They announced in the news that they were gonna introduce Groc into the Pentagon. - What is Groc? - It's AI, it's Elon Musk's AI. - Oh. - That he uses on Twitter. - Oh really? - Yeah, and it's like, does it do? - It breaks all the time, 'cause people fuck with it, and he's had to reprogram it. - But what does it do? Just answer things, put out things like, is it interesting? - No. - No. - It's just like Elon. - He is. - So it's not interesting. - Yes. - And I really, I've been trying to drive this home, this point home, but I think where we messed up in the American experience was not checking in with rich people. - What do you mean? - They would have asked for things. - I know, that's the problem. That's the problem. - Oh, I see. - My mom, when I was growing up, I was raised by a single mom, and I remember. Anytime we found out someone was had money my mom would go they're doing fine They'll figure it out when they had like if we found out like oh you know actually like his dad is rich And my mom would go then they're fine. They'll figure it out. It should always go thinking throw money at it That's what you would say think it throw money at it their problems are solvable and I think who many of us Said that yeah, so now there's all these wealthy people that are broken inside Complete and no one's ever gone to Elon like you're okay, buddy And maybe just one of those need go. I don't know I want to go to space because I can't live here and no one likes me And then everyone's like sleeve Elon alone he's got so much money in you guys Yeah, you and Lee just trying to make sure he's all right. No one checks in on him. They're always going You're so smart. How are we getting to Mars? How would you know whenever just goes like? Do you have a bad day? Yeah, yeah, I did in the robot the dog robots don't help And they're not just called me. I had an idea for a show. I'm I think I'm going to call it the billionaire Rehabilitation Center. Yes, and it just focuses around a rehab for billionaires where they try to make them Empathy. Yeah, empathetic. My friend did Rehap have had a bunch of friends in rehab and one of the things they do is sometimes they'll take you out to a field and pet a horse So that you can I'm serious. Dan St. Germain had a fantastic bit about this. Oh Yeah, he's like you guys that's how you know he's like damn my fucked up If you're in a field just petting you know if you're just in a field petting a horse But that's what we would need is like Just a billionaire to sit there with like a cleaning lady and she's like I have kids and he's like whoa and your kids I love him Rehab them into being humans again. Yeah, because it's the it's the It's they're fortified by Yesman. Yes, they're fortified by people, but they want that and they build that and they can't deal With you see Elon. I mean Elon must have got slapped into reality a little with the dough shit because there was so much Pushback on that shit, but I feel like guys like that when they get pushback like that they double down That's true because that's always been their way out of it like when you look at like all of his business dealings and you go well, he gets put in these situations where people go you're fucked and he goes I'm just gonna double down and then it works and then he gets out of it. So he never has to go like Oh, was I being a dick bug there? It'd be funny if he had one like for some reason He's got one blue collar friend in his like like a cabbie and Brooklyn go and he vites him over this shit And he's like Elon. Why are there so many fucking robots? Yeah, why don't you get a real woman a blow? He was Dominic Dominic I would love to help you, but you're asking too many difficult questions. I don't know Why aren't you more like Joe Rogan and just say yeah? Like billionaires they should have a blue collar friend. They should have yeah if Bezos Had a friend that was like a pipe fitter in the pipe fitter union You know and Bezos would be like with his weird walk eye and he's all on steroids now And he'd be like hey my warehouse my warehouse employees are mad because they're gonna try to unionize and one guy goes I love unions Yes, exactly goes Mark. He goes Jeff Jeffery. What you know in Stanis this house was bought by I pay my membership fees. I got fucking friends. We going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Bezos ignores and it goes here Look at look. I got a new fucking thing. It's it's the size of an insect and it it surveils everything in 300,000 miles is it a cool Dominic and he goes you creeping me to fuck out. No, it's not cool. You'll fucking it That's what they need neither they need a friend that doesn't want things from them because you've been in this business Long time and I've been in it over 20 years and you see people change because yeah, they get famous Yeah, I saw this in an interview one time. I forgot who said I think it was Kendrick Lamar was like The different fame is you don't change. It's the people around you change interesting and they go like well You got a lot of stuff now. Can I have some of that stuff? Yes, and then they go if I say yeah He gives me more stuff Yes, yeah, people want things, you know, and I'm at a low level of that And they're like, hey, can you you know, it's like very subtle like the smart people like subtle about it But I know it's going on. You got don't far. Have you ever had to confront someone about that? No, they've had to go like I don't play me Yeah, how long have you been in LA? Oh God, dude At 23 years, okay, so you've watched it go like You know every trick in the LA book. Oh, yeah, you've seen it's brutal LA. Have you seen people This is the LA thing. There's why are you from here? I grew up in Colorado, but yeah, but I I started to stand up in Tucson for two years and then I moved here. So I've been here for over 20 years Oh, you've been doing it for over 20 years. Yeah, I never liked LA because The ability of people who at first treat you like, I don't know this guy is Sky doesn't have anything for me Then they find out you have something and you watch him go like Yeah, there is I have my guy. I have sat at a party like kind of a high level party of celebs It's just so painful celebs around a table, you know, and I'm there and I'm not I don't rate to be in that and you're just like fuck yeah watching a move LA was the first place I ever had someone I saw someone look through me Where I was like oh, they are not they're not talking to me right now. They're like oh, that's crazy Yeah, they'd see someone and they go crazy and then they and you're like yeah remember the first time that happened to me I was like angry. I was like what a fucking shitty dude. Oh, I'm still angry. Yeah. Why am I there 23 years? I don't know. Do you like living there? Partly, but not anymore. I'll tell you it's you know speaking of the eco side that we're going through. I mean Last January not this January but last January I was getting evacuation notices. I had my cat Bolta them senior a cat and my dog Charlotte My wife and we're like ready to evacuate Fire at some point you you I don't know you remember the LA fire at some point you saw it. Oh We're gonna die in a fire. I mean the way that it happened too from us watching it from the east coast was like It all got lit up fast like really fast within. I remember Tim Dylan like posted something where he was showing the fire come up To his balcony and you're like oh shit. Jesus Christ. I feel it is hilarious because he was also in Austin when they had that He had to move there He goes here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna shut down your grid and there's nothing you can I love they go in they go Tim you the perfect man to shut down Los Angeles Set a fire Fan the flames, but I remember texting him and be like dude get out of here and he was like dude it happened so he got out of there He was in Palm Springs when I I never I never I never left no because I I am the fires close to you That's some point it it was somewhat close like someone told me it's good to be poor in LA because You're not in the hills where the fires and the floods get you you're in the grid it would all the valet people yeah That is funny where they go they go well no one's picking up these cars And then all these rich all these poor people are driving like Mercedes-Benz and fucking Audi's being like everyone died in the fire yeah I always think about you know because they talk about the the the tech billionaires Elon and Zuckerberg. I don't know if it's true, but they're building compounds in New Zealand for like the end of the world But the question mountain head it was kind of based on that did you see that? Oh, I guess I'm better informed No, I guess I'll leave the car. I'll leave the conversation No, it was a and it kind of sucked as little disappointing, but Carole was in it. Oh, we're the four tech guys go away. I remember that was all about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah I forget who wrote it some big guy, but it kind of sucked yeah, but the premise itself is interesting because you go Well, what happens right hypothetically? Let's let's play this out the world ends you get to your compound You're gonna need security, but then what stops the security from going Well, I got the gun and I know how to fight and you're just a fucking nerd that knew how to program computers. Yeah, there's a there's a A fucking guy Douglas rush off who writes about these billionaires and he's an economist and he's like just He can't believe like they they took him to some one of their conferences and he thought they were gonna ask he thought they were gonna ask him About questions about you know how do we help the society, but no they just wanted to know how do we survive like Do we have the with people with shock collars who are a security hole. Like, they really are taking it to the level of like, like, who will have access to our food supply? - You know, it's just showed, I just showed my poor brain, my like dumb brain by going like, security will turn on you and they're like, we have electric dog collars. They're not gonna do anything. They're gonna obey us if they wanna eat and live. - But then my thing is to just fucking kill me. 'Cause I'm not gonna live in a fucking post-apocalyptic society. - No. - Where there's six guys in New Zealand living perfectly fine than everyone else. It's Mad Max. - I was thinking that in a post-apocalyptic society, I did a woman show about this. Like, you're still trying to get to an audition. You gotta suck someone off for gas. (laughing) You know, you finally get to the audition and it's just for a serial and it's just, it's a commercial and it's just a voice in the darkness going, okay, Eddie, it's just down between you and a charred corpse for this role. (laughing) - So we got left is this guy that died in the initial blast and you. So show us what you got. Are you ready? - Great. - We're gonna go in a different direction. - Yeah. - It really, man, it gets to the point where you're like, are they trying to make it an apocalypse? I, 'cause what you said about that author that writes about billionaires, you think they go-- - You gotta read him. - They go, what? - Rush off. - Rush off, but they go, like, what can we do? - Look him up. - What kind of philanthropy? Take your order, order three books. (laughing) We'll stop the podcast, we'll read these books and then we'll come back. - Douglas Rushoff. - But it is, it's amazing that you go, a normal person thinks, well, what are they gonna do with society or whatever in billionaires go? We don't give a fuck. - They don't care. - At least the Vanderbilt's used to make libraries and shit in hospitals, you know? - Jacob, Jacob, do you think we should put in a bathroom for the, for the proletariat in the library? - Okay. - Fine. - Fine. - I guess they admit liquids like we do. - Did you find it? - Let's, go ahead, talk about it a little bit. - Yeah, let's bring them out. - Can they hear you? - No, not really, he's off my, but Douglas Rushoff. Rushoff. - Name the books. - He's an American theorist, writer, perfect. - Name the book. - First off, I'm looking at his education. He's got a BA from Princeton. He's got his master's from Colorado. I mean, he's got one to the American filmers too. - He's a good guy though. - Yeah, he, uh, bibliography. - No, not, yeah, just his books. Books are free rides, how to get high without drugs. Siberia, life in the trenches of cyberspace. This is the '94. And then as he goes forward, shit starts getting real. 2010 he wrote program or B programed. 10 commands for a digital age paperback. Throwing rocks at the Google bus in 2016. 2019's team human. - That's a good one. - 2022's survival of the richest, which is probably gonna be the one that I read. - That is great. And there's a lot. - And there's a 2024 program or B programed. 11 commands for the AI future. - Weven read that, yeah. - Paperback. - But he's great to read because he understands these fucking lunatics. - Yeah, and they say that his, the most red chapters of his is chapter eight. In the book. - Survival of the richest. - What's that chapter? I think it's called extinction rebellion. - Oh, dude. Not a drill in extinction rebellion handbook. - Yeah, extinction rebellion is a name of a group. I don't know if you know that. - No. - They actually do stuff like real shit to try to stop the ecocide. Like they in London, they fucking block the M5. Like they do real things. They don't do a very nice, you know. They don't do a very nice march with or not, you know. - They sing songs. - Yeah, and talking to the police, they fucking just block the machinery of capitalism. - I couldn't do it. I know it's very hard. - I don't have the balls to do it. - I'm old now. - Yeah. - That's my thing is that I have a bad shoulder. - That's really funny. That's your excuse for it. You know, why didn't Eddie fight in the apocalypse? You know that right shoulder is? - It is the right shoulder. We don't know if it's a real deal. - Do you know I can't sleep on my right side now? It's really gotten. - Have you gone to a doctor? - I don't. You know, I'm very old school, you know. I will only go to a doctor if I see blood on the mattress. - I'm thinking about going soon because it's just your shoulder. - Yeah. Do you try to like prop it up on a pillow? - I work out. - And then just when you sleep it fucking hurts. - I can't sleep on that side. Anyway, it's a whole fucking, I don't know why I brought that up. - I'm not sure. - You know, it's funny as I'm as inquisitive about this that I am about the apocalypse. So I go, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You know, when you get older, dude, it's like you start talking about shit, really? - Yeah. - So yeah, it was a clot? - Yeah, yeah, I just had that. A buddy of mine, I got deep vein thrombosis and I go like, what do you do? And he's like taking pills and I can't do this or that. And you go, but I'm at the age now where I'm in my 40, in my 20s, I would have heard that. And I've been like, yeah, that sucks, is I'm lighting a cigarette? Oh, yeah, good luck. And now in my 40s, I go, what was the first sign? - Yes. - Because I'm like waiting for it. You'd be like, ooh, if my right shoulder starts hurting. - Oh, yeah. - Did you ever smoke cigarettes? - I'd know, just a lot of weed. - Okay, I was a cigarettes guy and a weed guy. - Never a cigarette, are you off of cigarettes now? - Yeah, I've been 13 years without smoking. - Oh, great. - But I, you did some damage. - Oh, her and I want to come back. - Katie and I are looking at smoke. - Is that right? Because of all the shit. - Why not? - Why not? - Why not? - If I, what I'm gonna be going through, if I- - Is it a real pleasure? - Yeah, it's, I know. - By the way, this would be funny. A commercial for smoking as the society. - Wait, there you go, listen, hey, it's all fallen. Might as well have a marble around. - Things like that. Things like, you know, you know, as you watch the chaos outside and have limited access to food supply and it's gonna be 130 tomorrow. You know what might be nice? A marble over head. - That's what it is. That's how you sell it, where you go. Not only is it an appetite suppressant, but you can light it off the burning buildings. (laughing) Every time. - I did that thing about the only thing I like about the LA fires is that I like cigars and I just lean out the windows. - It's really funny. (laughing) - Well, my family's from Northern California and they've dealt with fires. My grandma lived in Lake County, which was like central to where all those fires happen in Northern California. - Is that near Mount Chasta? - No, it is by Yucaya. I don't know if you know where Yucaya is. It's up north San Francisco. - Oh, okay. - It's south of Oregon. It's about three hours north of the Bay Area. - Oh, okay. - And it's a-- - I've been up to fucking Eureka now. - Yeah. - Doing comedy. - Eureka's fucking cool. - It's so fucking cool. - Eureka's very Mendocino. It's like East of Mendocino. I don't know if you know Mendocino's like-- - I don't want to brag about, do I know Mendocino or not? - All I'm saying is if you watched Murdershoe wrote, (laughing) I never did. I had no interest in that. I'm reading rush off. - Oh yeah, I did. - Survival of the riches. - Well, I'm watching Landsbury. (laughing) - I'm seeing how all this shit goes down. - I saw her alive when she was like 90 something in LA. That's the thing you do in LA, like my wife will go, you know, Angela Landsbury's at the Beverly Hills cinema today introducing, you know, the Orient Express Fusion app. And so we go and she's like, you know, you know, it's great. - Yeah, I mean, she's Jessica Fletcher. She's one of the greatest actresses of our time. - She was great. - He had knobs and broomsticks. I mean, the lady's bed and everything. - And knobs and broomsticks. - She's the best. But when you go, I remember in Northern California that I always have the fires or whatever and people in LA would be like, oh, sucks. Socks, you having those fires. And then you're like, fuck you guys. So there was a little bit of it. - Yeah, so real rough. North hates. - North house. - I'll tell you what. I think North hates South more than South hates North. - I agree. - The California. - LA, they're like, we're having the time of our lives. - And then they're in hoodies and the fog up North going, shut the fuck up. - Yeah, but I think the North is cooler. - Yes, I agree. I love Northern California. If I were to live anywhere other than New York, you would probably be Northern California. - Northern California is very cool. I just go formed up there. - I love San Francisco, my dad's from Oakland. He's from the East Bay. I love the East Bay. - It's unlivable as far as rent now because of these techies. - Well, it's starting to come back because the techies moved to Austin. They left. And so now there's such a sh*t. - Yeah, so now they're starting to, now what's happening is San Francisco's becoming affordable. San Francisco's-- - No, I mean, that is like-- - Like, I'm a tourist. - You still have to have a lot of money. - Yeah. - I mean, that's like, it's not anywhere. It's not what it should be. Like, as someone that lived there when I was a kid, I spent a lot of time there as a kid. It was like-- - How long were you there for? - My dad, my dad lived in Marin with my grandma for a while. - The rid is so, I just performed at the Throck Morton. My dad-- - That's awesome. at the liquor store down the street from the Throchmord in the middle of that Bill Valley, and I was there. I got there at night and not a fucking soul on this street. - Isn't that crazy? - It's spooky. - Where is everybody? - Up in the hills. - Yeah. - There are hill people, but you don't know that. They don't let you know that they're all liberal hill people where they go, "Everyone has rights. Return to my hills." - Yeah. - But that's a part of my childhood that was probably my fondest memories. We're staying out there in the summers. - What years? - 90s. - I mean, for you, how old were you? - 89 to 93. - Oh, okay, you there were like five years. - Yeah, I spent about, yeah, from when I was about six, five to 10 years old. I'd go out there 'cause my mom lived in Denver and I'd go out. - Yeah, so you did a lot of playing outdoors. - It was great. I'd run around. There was like a lot of, especially in Mill Valley. - Yeah. Children have to run around on treadmills now because it's so dangerous out there. They just have parents just have treadmills. Which is crazy 'cause we were just free-range dodged in kid numbers. - Yes. - There was that. And this is when I grew up in Aurora, which is in Colorado. - Which is southeast of Denver. It's a nice suburb. One time I was walking to school and I used to cut through this backyard. I'd cut through because it took like 20 minutes off the walk. I'd cut through this guy's backyard and then went through this drainage up into my school. And one time I was in fifth grade and I'm like walking to school in this van just pulls up and then like pulls in front of the house and the door opens and I fucking run. - Do you know what we said? - I run and I was like, that's a kid ever. And the guy went, whoa, he goes, I live here. I live here. And I came around the corner of the house. And I remember specifically him going, but good job. He was like, he was like impressive. I was cutting through his backyard but he was like, hey, good job. A van rolled up on you and you just took off. And I was like, what a brilliant move it would have been if he'd been like, no, come here. - Yeah, yeah. - That's how he could have got me. He's positive reinforcement. - Yeah, totally. - Thank you. And he's like, yep, you're mine now. - There are some very shrewd serial killers. That's what I'm very shrewd. - Through Netflix. Very shrewd. You can't be pussyfooting out here while you're catching your victims. You gotta, it's ABC. ABK, always be killing. Like when I read that, who was it? Was it Bundy who did that thing where he faked a broken arm? - That's what they did in science of the lambs. They based on Bundy. - That's right. - That's right. - Did Bundy who go, hey, I broke my arm. Could you help me with the couch? - And he was handsome. - That's what I have going for me. Is my handsomeness when I just, with the ladies. - And they go, they go, oh, am I-- - And I've got my stand-- - And they go, am I falling in love or am I being sex trafficked? That's what I needed. I needed, Eddie, you've had so many starlets over a dinner go, Eddie, am I falling for you or are you turning me into a salt and sex slave? - Has there ever been a movie about a serial killer comic? - No. - That might be funny. - Yeah. - And scary. - I do it realistically. - 'Cause then we would start looking. - I don't want Willarnette as the guy. - We would start looking at people going, are you, are you really based enough of? It's guys charming. There's a couple comics, and I won't say names, but you know the rule on this podcast. If I say somebody, come to my show live, and I'll tell you the name. - Oh, that's great. - It's unfair to keep-- - I just name 'em. - Yeah, I name 'em, and then I call my-- - And then you say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." - You gotta attack the fuck. - No, I know, I know, I know. - I'm going to LA, I'm gonna fucking see you. - But there are comics that I know that I would go like-- - Oh, I think he, if he became a serial killer, they found bodies. - Yeah. - Yeah? - Yeah, I remember. I remember Dan St. Germain said that about Facebook, about a comic, where he was like, "Man, these Facebook posts are gonna make a lot more sense if they start finding bodies." And that's where you're up real in time, and I was like, "Yeah, you're absolutely right." - Are you good buddies with Dan? - Oh, he's, yeah, it's like my-- - Does he live here? - Yeah. - Well, now he's up in, yeah, he's-- - I knew him up in LA. - Yeah, when he rode on Superior Donuts and that stuff. - Yes. - Yeah, he's doing great now. He's out here, we're writing partners, we have a work on shows together. He's the man. I love Dan St. Germain. - Still sober? - Yeah. - Good. - You know, he fights for it, he's doing a good job, but he's the fucking man. He's so funny. - Oh, cool. - And he would never hurt a fly, so he's not who I'm talking. (laughs) Oh God, the phone calls him. - Mike, it's Dan. We gotta, I want you to cut for minute three to minute 40. What I need you to do is now hear me out. I need you to cut, minute 36 to 37. - Yeah. - Put it on the back end of minute eight and nine. - Yes. - Just gonna look like we're talking about it completely. - You even get rid of Liberachi thing. - I know his son, I know his son Michael Liberachi. - He's probably, right. - I'm not gonna be invited to the compound on Martha's Vineyard. - Yes. - Yes. - Have you ever had somebody that you loved and knew a long time in LA changed that you saw them? Like, did you ever watch like the business get them? Where you go, damn, you really. - Oh, I think so. But I, I don't know. - Do you stay to yourself? - I kinda stay to myself. - I always love that about you. - I kinda stay to myself, I don't really like. - Every time I've ever been on a show with you, the feeling is like the outdoor cat came inside. (laughs) Everybody goes, (laughs) He never does this. Don't pat him. (laughs) - No, no, no, no. - You're coming in, there you go. (laughs) - And he's inside. - And then you curl up and there you go. You go up whenever he wants. - Huh? - Let's go up. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think you are one of the funniest human beings of all time. I have watched your stand up with pure enjoyment. The entire time I've done comedy, it's very rare. I think I've became a jaded on a lot of people. But you, I'm, if you've never watched Eddie Peppatone, go on YouTube and you have, I think like three or four specials up there. How many specials? - Well, I don't know. But the new one is called the Collapse. - The Collapse is fantastic. Where did you film that? - Chicago at a place called Lincoln Hall, which is mainly, you know it? - I know Lincoln. - Mainly for bands. - Yeah. - But wonderful, the Collapse, wonderful introduction by Gary Goldman. - Yes. - I'm doing a show tomorrow in Union Hall. - Hell yeah. Gary is more of a. - Man, is he a good? - He's just a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a craftsman. - He is. - Because I'm a cock and a craftsman. - It's, Joe listen, I always talk about this. But you watch your Goldman bit and it's like admiring a wonderful piece of furniture, real life. - How did he do the ends? How did he do the ends like that? I bet we're perfectly put. - Yeah, you go, I've been working my whole life and I can't get it. - It's so funny because I love Gary and he's a big fan of mine and we are opposites. - Yes. - Like I go up there just spewing shit and he's up there. - It's, everything is like, it's, I don't know, man, but it's in a world where there's so much shit. - In a world. - In a world with poop everywhere. Find people you like and then support them. And I think you're one of those guys where it's like I'm so happy you were coming on the podcast. - Thanks. - Because I think you're fucking hilarious. The collapse on YouTube, go watch it. I watch it, it's fucking fantastic. I didn't want to give away too many bits. The Apple Watch is the opener so you can fucking mad at me. We'll put the link down there at Epitone, New York City Legend, LA Phenomenon. (all laughing) Jangle big. - Colorado, pariah. You son of a bitch better never come to the fire pool. You come to my high, we scalp 'em. Yeah, thanks so much. - Thanks man. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)