Sanji Runs the Right Hand Gauntlet: Davy’s Dark Tournament (Ep. 65)

counting larry's vote he might come i don't know if he's coming or not he put his pick in the chat he was the first messenger in the stream i mean he's probably not coming he's probably not coming said sanji stopping the cat are we are we live uh yep yes i bet hello and welcome everyone to another episode of davey's dark tournament the show where we have you guys debate hypothetical matchups in the one piece verse you know the vibes who you got what diff and why my name is seb i am joined by my mods and staff in twilight toby and hitta and this is ddt man we're running gauntlets these days so i hope you guys are ready to debate it is officially sanji season so it's going to be a right hand gauntlet to see if he could step up and fight at a higher weight class he normally has to fight um in this gauntlet sanji will have full recovery and he'll be facing off against marco in round one katakuri in round two king in round three old rayleigh in round four and al kiji in round five yes there was some debate about whether we should make al kiji the right hand um figured why not he's the second strongest in the blackbeard crew or at the minimum um there's nobody stronger than him besides potentially blackbeard in that group so um yeah this should be a lot of fun uh if you guys want to join in on these ddts please become a tiered member of nakamura higher um in the discord and you'll have access to the ddt entrance on our discord voice channel and we're going to bring you guys in in waves of five so basically um groups of five will determine um who wins what matchup and how far you guys think sanji gets in this gauntlet this should be an interesting one i feel like there's an opportunity for him to lose in every single one of these rounds there's an opportunity for him to win every single one of these rounds i'm curious to see where the people go man or how people are leaning is it officially sanji season will he clear this gauntlet curious man i'm really curious how y'all feeling though twilight hitter toby talk to me hey bro if any sanji fans get mad blame seb i tried to give nah man we tried to give you a easier gauntlet man what you mean there's no you can't run from the smoke man you can't run from the grind man all i'm saying is i like sanji i i hate on him a decent amount because there's some things i don't like about him but i like him i tried to save him today all right i ain't gonna bash him but he gonna get cooked a little bit at least for my end i think so you think so yeah i think it's ggs for my boy he definitely not making it through i'll tell you that okay yeah i i gotta agree on that end i don't think he's making it through but and i'm actually gonna try to be completely unbiased so i'm i'm genuinely trying to think of where i'd say he'd end yeah i tell you wasn't gonna clear it but i honestly haven't put much thought towards the first three rounds but i don't know round round four could get interesting for me i think i can hear some here's some arguments it's it's it's people saying in the chat he not getting past round two and we had a ddt a couple weeks ago where he was struggling to get past marco in the first place he might not clear any rounds man we never know that's that's what i'm saying bro but that makes it fun at the same time it makes it fun but like i'm just saying any sanji fans don't blame us i blame sub blame y'all's guy all right listen that's all my that's y'all's homie man listen man it's up it's up to the people bro it's up to the people to figure it out we don't have a lot of people there though i only see bulldozer in the ddt entrance so maybe people don't want to talk maybe people don't want to talk about sanji man maybe not it's supposed to be season that's tough i thought it was tough man i see this dude in the chat saying why is sanji here let's say did you make uh did you make an announcement that it uh went live i made an announcement that we were doing this uh a couple hours ago but i guess i can make another announcement yeah probably people are playing that new black ops the black ops remakes though i'm gonna be honest bro maybe i'm reaching but streaming university just started bro and we do got some youngies you know i'm saying like hey i'm not saying they don't they're not so no because it's streaming university but it is going on right now it just started so hey i'm just gonna i'll be honest i got it on my laptop right now the sound's off but i'm watching it too bro so maybe some people just watching it saying it's too much crossover there yeah i didn't even think about it to be honest that's probably that's probably why larry not here man larry love him bro he loves he loves amps bro yeah i love him too man but i'm here though y'all my guys so i'm doing both okay we'll see man we'll see all right i mean if we can't get a lot of people i'll make an announcement now um give me some some seconds to craft that uh at least i've only got three people right now but we'll give it some time but hey that gives us time to debate listen y'all can run it now if y'all want yeah i could do the first little section i'll go i'll go first i'll go first uh man i don't want to be mean bro i got sanji stopping a cat unfortunately i got him stopping a cat okay uh i think that's probably the closest fight on here my fight is probably the closest fight on here i think that's probably the closest fight on here they'd be a really good match with each other but i just feel like i just like more what i've seen from cat than what i've seen from sanji like being queen that was that was i don't i don't hold okay how do i say this he he mid-diffed queen right so he did what he was supposed to do but i don't want to say just because he mid-diffed a lower commander that that means he could automatically beat this hi commander doesn't mean he can't neither but the the best i could do is say that he loses the king i don't think he beats king he has the fire but i don't think he beats king i know people think king's super dumb and he might be i he might be but i don't see him actually being able to take down king um draw really really struggled to even do that himself so i feel like that's what sanji stops i'll say i'll say he stops the king i'll say him and cat is debatable he stops the king you're right about him being dumb i'll give you that much and to be honest that's exactly why i got sanji clearing past round three because if we have to assume that king uses the same you know logic he used against zoro right but even then if you wanted to to to make the argument that like because you could argue that sanji's uh current attacks could get through like lunarian defense could could tag him if you want a very high ball how dirty he did uh he's a queen but outside of that i think sanji can tag king whenever he's in flames off mode and he's and he's going fast in there and it'll be a high speed battle and he'll get it'll be defeat by it'll be a war of of attrition compared to zoro's like big flash uh the defeat of king i think he'll win but i think it'll be in a different way now with rayleigh i don't know i might have to be swayed by by somebody else for rayleigh but um i think you know what i'll have my position be that he that he defeats really just based on how just based on how zoro and luffy when they got serious against gabban he was quick to he was quick to put his his weapons down and if i'm if i'm gonna take the the last couple last couple of chapters into consideration and i'll look at rayleigh i gotta ask if rayleigh can can keep up with sanji's with sanji's like sanji's just way too young man sanji's way too young he had his durability regen he got the regen hacked i don't know i don't i don't know if ray got it like that at him anymore he's an old dog You got the hockey, but these folks like Sanji and Zoro and Luffy, they're on the way up. And they're going to surpass the prior generations by a good margin. So I think he might be at that threshold now. I can't make any argument for Kuzan, though. Yeah, no. Kuzan go, Kuzan go, I ain't going to lie. 15 seconds, man. That's what I give him against Kuzan. Yeah. Okay. We got one stopping at Kuzan and one stopping at Cat. There's a big gap between those two people. So, Twilight, talk to me, man. Where you got the pervy chef landing here? See, I know during the last DDT I had Marco winning. For the simple fact of I just, I don't think Sanji's at the point yet where. where he could bypass Marco's regeneration and stamina. We can go into that a lot more, but I feel like that's just been, that's a beaten horse at this point. If we're counting in the recent developments in him possibly becoming a conqueror and adding the conquerors into it, I'd say at this point we could say he beat Cat, or beat Marco. I feel like he could definitely bypass Cat, but I feel there's, there's enough of a strap from him to beat Cat. With his speed, I feel like he definitely could bypass Cat's future sight. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now King, hmm, I kind of have to agree with Hidda on the aspect that I feel like King probably wouldn't take Sanji seriously, and that would ultimately be what leads to his downfall in that fight. But I personally, I feel like he'd be stopping at round 4, I don't think he's got it against old Rayleigh, because at that point, with old Rayleigh, I feel like it would basically come down to the fact that Rayleigh's hockey, Rayleigh's Conquerors, even if Sanji has just recently unlocked it, like Hidda brought up with Luthi and Zoro against Gabon, they had, it was 2v1, and they really had to, like, get serious against that for Ray to be like, alright, I'll probably lose this. But if it was just Zoro and Gabon, I'm not confident Zoro would have won that. So just in that aspect, if we're going to say that Gabon and Ray are comparable, and anywhere near the same strength, then yeah, I got him stopping it, I got him stopping it, Ray. Okay, so we got. Well, you got, you're stopping at Ray. Okay, so we have one clear at Ray, one stopping at Ray, one stopping at Cat. So, Toby, you had the lowest rating here. Do you want to try to convince your compatriots as to why he should stop at Cat? I definitely, I feel like Twilight, I feel like he has a good standing. I definitely want to ask Hidda one more time why he thinks he beats Rayleigh, because I don't want to get it wrong, and then I'm going to count it. If it is here. Well, you see how Rayleigh, how he, how much effort it took out of him to deal with. Now, I'm not, when I say this, I'm not directly comparing Kizaru with Sanji. I want to get that out of the way. But we've seen how much effort it took for him to, to, to deal with that much pressure in, in a fight. You know what I'm saying? He's old now. He's the first king, you know, he still has that reputation, but he's old now. He ain't, he ain't got his, his, his fastball like he, like he used to back in the day. You heard him say from when, when, when Blackbeard came to the island, yeah, I'm getting by with my reputation, but if he really got busy, I would have got waxed. Like, I just don't think he has the, the, I don't know. I don't know if, I just haven't, I haven't seen any, any attack from Rayleigh where I'm confident to say like, yeah, that's, that's to, to, to put Sanji with his awakened germa body hacks out of, out of, out of commissioning. Okay. And then he's on the steady incline with, you know, coming into his conquerors and all that. He's got the speed. I think, I believe he has a speed edge. I don't know. I just, I just think he can, he can pull a rabbit out the hat with Rayleigh. Well, I definitely don't think he, um, we saw him trading with Cazaro. It did take a lot out of him. I think the most important thing here is that Rayleigh is old. And, and I do like the point we've never seen Rayleigh do anything that actually like suggests that he can actually take down Sanji. But we do know he's a master of conquerors hockey. And I feel like if that's what, I feel like if he's as capable as I believe he is, which is obviously headcanon, I feel like he'll be able to take out Sanji. Like, I don't think you have to be thanks to take out Sanji, you know, like Sanji with that. But more of the more durable characters, but I feel like if he's who, and this is kind of going by reputation, like if he's who we, even while being old, I feel like he has to have some very lethal attacks that could take down Sanji. Like, I just feel like it wouldn't make sense if he didn't. Like, why is he a master of conquerors hockey? And we see how strong Gabon is, you know, like if he's supposed to be at least that strong. Like, I feel like it just wouldn't make sense if he wasn't strong enough to Sanji. Now, the stamina part, I can't really defend that. Like, we've seen him fight for five minutes, and he was kind of just like holding Kizuru off. He wasn't even like damaging at all. But I feel like I like what I see. Like, he was definitely fast enough to keep up with one of the faster characters in the verse. So I feel like at minimum, he'd be at least as fast as Sanji, if not faster. But, you know, I don't think there's anything Sanji could throw at Ray that he wouldn't be able to keep up with. That's fair. I don't know. I just can't. I can't give Sanji the nod on that. I can't give him the nod on that. I feel like we just, I feel like there's too much that we've seen from Rayleigh where I'm comfortable with saying, like, worst case scenario, it's extreme diff, and I give it to Rayleigh. So, yeah, I can't put him past Rayleigh at all. I just can't do it. I just can't do it. I feel like that, I don't know, when I look at that, even though it was 2v1, when Gabon saw Zoro and Luffy about to turn up, he knew that the game was over. He knew to put the weapons down. Now, granted, there is some room to dispute and, you know, go back and forth of if he's really as strong or stronger than, than, uh, Rayleigh, but I think from the parallels of, of Gabon and Rayleigh and Zoro and Sanji, I think they're pretty, pretty, I think they're pretty close, and I think if that's true, I think if Sanji really turned up. And like, like, like you've seen from the other, um, people on the rooftop, and we have no reason to assume that, that Sanji's any different, after Wano, we've seen them make leaps and bounds from, from the new, the new abilities that, that they've gained, um, during the raid. I feel like Sanji is, is, is in that, is in that group, especially with this, this Conquers. Conquers is separate from the new abilities that he's gained with, with, you know, with his, his germ. I think his regen has made, has made leaps and bounds. I think there's no, there's no reason to, to say that his speed hasn't made leaps and bounds, or we, we've seen what he did with blocking Kizaru's light in, in, in Egghead. Like, and he's just, he's just getting, continuing to grow and grow exponentially. I think he pulls the rabbit out the hat with Ray. I think I'm comfortable with. With being on the wrong side of that coin flip, once the series ends and we can look at everything in context, I think I'm cool with taking that bet. Okay. I don't know. We've seen these old guys rock out. Like, Rayleigh, he's not God. But we've seen the level that God could reach. Like, if he could reach an Al-Kizi level, then whatever the level below that is, I don't think Sanji's on the level below that. And I feel like Ray would be on the level below that. But that's the thing. Garp, like, Rayleigh isn't Garp. And we've seen how sheerly you did Garp. Now, granted, there was a group effort, and there was a bunch of different pieces around. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Wait, wait. We've got to be real. Did you just say we've seen how sheerly you did Garp? All these old characters, what have we seen from all of them? Well, Whitebeard. Now, Whitebeard's a legend. He was way stronger than Rayleigh and Gabon and them were in his prime. But at his old age, he got caught lagging by. I forgot his name. What was his name? What was his name? Okay, that's not fair. Who are you talking about? Chinjau? Chinjau? That's not fair. Not Chinjau. The short-toothed kid that caught him lagging at Marineford. That's not fair, bro. Oh, Squard? Squard? Yeah, Squard. Okay. Listen, their abilities have dampened. They're in decline. You hear from Garp that he's in decline. You hear from Rayleigh, I'm not what I used to be. That's not about Sanji, though. But what do you have on panel to really definitively say, yeah, this is why Sanji gets whooped by Rayleigh? Is it the mission of Conqueror? Yeah, it's the Conquerors. But nothing on panel. Now we talking Aura. Not even necessarily. I mean, we know for a fact he's a master of Conquerors, though. It's not just Conquerors. He also knows how to use Ryo the Flow to break the Seastone Cups. That's cool. That's cool. I saw a big queen like it was messy in the World Cup. What are we talking about? See? See, like, one of the main reasons, one of the main reasons I personally got him stopping at Ray is just for, like, the Ryo and all that's one of the main reasons because Ray's going to be doing internal damage to Sanji. His raid suit upgrade ain't really going to matter. Like, Rayleigh's going to be straight doing just internal. Are we saying T-Free isn't doing internal damage? I don't think he gets to him. Like, gets through to him. Like, Ray's getting him before he gets to him. He gets to him, in my opinion. I don't know. I don't like that. I think Sanji's quicker than him. You don't. You can be quick, but. Because Ray. Correct me if I'm wrong. Ray's mastered all three, right? I believe so. Then. Yeah. Mastered ED. With Ray's future sight, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think. I don't think he's getting through, Ray. I think Ray's. I think Ray's coded way too many battleships and other ships to be able to keep up with these young bulls now. Oh, man. Hey, man. He kept up just fine with Kizaru, man. Also, correct me. Yeah, I was going to say, correct me if I'm wrong, but. Let's make this clear. He survived Kizaru. Yeah. Yeah, he kept up. He was never going to win that fight, but. Opposed to what Rayleigh fans try to say, he was never going to win that fight. But he kept up very. He kept up very well. And let's not forget, he wasn't Kizaru's friend, so it's not like he was running. He was prepared. You know? Like. I don't know, man. I just. I don't know. I can't give Sanji that nod. I just can't. All right. That'll be y'all round of rebuttals, but I would. I do want to open it up to Larry. Larry popped in here, and this is the mod round, so Larry, you put your take in the chat. I don't know if you switched up from that or if you want to stand on it. But you want to talk to the people? Let them know where you think Sanji stops here. Y'all can hear me? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, Sanji ain't getting past the first round cut. Mmm. That's really what it is. I think if you think anything else, you're just trying to fool yourself into the position of he can use Conker as hockey, and that's just not going to cut it. As we've seen with all first admirals, they are very relative to each other, okay? Relative to each other. And if you're going to look at Marco and say, well, he doesn't have Future Sight, he doesn't have Rio, and he doesn't have Conker as hockey, you got to go based upon the fights that he was actually in. And believe me, I am not a Marco fan, but I do respect Marco and his achievements, okay? So Marco being able to tussle with admirals and be able to even wane them a bit to the point they have to separate their bodies like Akainu did, or even when he blocked Akainu's fist, or even when he blocked Kizaru's Asakani jewel. That was meant to murk Whitebeard at some point, or even just kicking Aokiji, or even tussling with Big Mom, or even blocking Bolo Breath. These are things from like the toughest people on the show, and his devil fruit, right, was able to defend him and show that even he was more rare than a Logia ability because he could regenerate, okay? This is a person that Sanji is currently trying to fight and needs Conker. So we're talking about a first commander next to Whitebeard who acts like a Celestial Dragon under one of the Covenants. I mean, I would say he's stronger than Saint Killing him, to me, just based on what he can do. Now, if we look at it in this real aspect, right, I'll be talking about how Sanji is super fast. He's only been fast to Queen, okay? Queen, who doesn't have Future Sight, and doesn't have good observation, and is very stationary and is not known for speed, okay? Let's say Sanji got faster. That's what's up. That's cool. You guys pointed out Egghead. He blocked Kizaru's light beam that was shot for Bonnie and a perished Vegapunk. Y'all never include that he closed his eyes before he shot that light beam. And that's realistically the only reason why Sanji ended up catching him off guard and kicking the light beam. But then you're like, well, it's still a light beam. I mean, Sanji's still fast. That doesn't prove anything, Larry. Okay, then let's go to Sentomaru. Is Sentomaru fast? Because Sentomaru was outrunning Yasukani Jewel. I don't know if y'all remember. He also blocked one of Kizaru's light kicks. I don't know if y'all remembered that. So there's two feats. And then he also speed blitzed Kizaru. And then Kumo shrunk. So again, I'm not saying Sanji ain't fast. I'm just saying, is he fast enough to somebody like Marco? Can he actually do some damage to somebody like Marco? Because you can hit Marco with any attack you want. He's just going to regenerate after. And then you have to bring up the fact that he's not also healing 5,000 people. Because I saw Marco. You want to talk about exoskeletons? I mean, Queen kind of got an exoskeleton himself. And guess what happened to him? He got a shockwave thrown at him. And he said, all that hurt and started leaking from his mouth. That's an ancient Zoan plus a modified body. Plus a armament hockey user. Now, Sanji don't got Fugisite. He ain't got Rio. He got something like Rio, but he ain't got Rio. He got armament hockey. And he can attach some Ifrit Jambi to it. And cause burning sensation inside you. Well, guess what? Who you think cancels out Sanji's entire kit? Marco. Because Prometheus wasn't able to do anything to him. And Bolo Breath wasn't able to do anything to him either. Why? Because they're fire-based attacks. So if you take away Sanji's basic kit, which is fire abilities. What is he going to do? Rely on his hockey. Rely on his exoskeleton. And rely on. And his regeneration. And from what we've seen in the queen fight, when he has to regenerate, he also loses that stamina because of that. I would say the stamina portion goes to Marco as well. I mean, I get it. The conqueror's hockey is always going to be there. It is. He's going to get it eventually. But that doesn't mean that he's going to know how to utilize it. Because if you remember, somebody like Zoro, who had to fight a first commander. Had to actually use it. use Conker's hockey in a way to defeat him. And he barely did it. Just saying, man. I look at Marco, and I don't like him. But I understand what the boy can do. And Sanji has never versed the opponents that Marco has and looked as good as him doing it. Okay. So you got him not stopping, not beating Marco. So negative. No, he's not beating Marco. Can I ask you something? When we started this stream, you said he stops at Cat. What changed? I started to process what Marco can do. And I started to process how he could counter Sanji and what he would need in order to beat Marco. At first, I was like, uh. But then I started to really digest it. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This might have been. He cooked from the beginning. Okay. So it's Marco over Sanji for me. It'll be, um. Let me just throw respect on his name and just say it's ExtremeDiff. Okay. Throw respect on his name? Do you think he actually, like, loses to, like, a LowerDiff? I think he loses HighDiff. Okay. I don't know why you're laughing. You saw what Marco did to King and Queen when he was fighting both of them at the same time. He stalled them. Like he's supposed to do. He's Stallman. That's his actual name in this game. He wasn't just stalling. Stalling is holding people back and not hitting them. No, it ain't just that. He was keeping both of them busy. How do you keep a first commander and a second commander busy? He putting them on their back. You don't remember the chapter? I remember the chapters. Yeah, he was doing it with relative ease, too. Do you remember any critical attacks from those chapters? I saw Queen bleeding from his mouth. Well, was that a critical attack, Larry? That's all I'm trying to ask you. Did you see any critical attacks? I don't know what you mean by critical attack. You mean, like, he passed out from the attack? Did he do any critical damage to King or Queen in that exchange? I wouldn't say he was doing critical damage to King, but I think he was doing damage to Queen for sure. Critical damage? So you're saying critical damage. So Sanji only started doing critical damage when Ifrit Jambe was in play. You mean when he has the power-up that he can use normally now? Right. Right. That's what I'm saying. I don't think Marco is going to be able to tag with that. Hold on, hold on. But you're moving the goalposts back because you're not remembering. If Sanji can't use Ifrit Jambe against Marco, then how does he do real, like, attacks against him? I don't know why you're saying that. How does he land critical attacks? He can use it. And I want to bring up something that you talked about earlier. No, no, no, no, no, no. Go back, go back. All these attacks. Why would he be able to use it? All these attacks that Marco's blocked. Why would Sanji be able to use his fire attacks against Marco when he's shown that fire attacks don't work on him? Ifrit, there are flames that come from Sanji's legs on his attacks, but these flames, I forget how it's worded, but it's basically the attacks are amplified based on his will. They're based. They're based on his will. So when he goes up from Diablo to Ifrit, his will's getting stronger. What also grows is his hockey gets stronger, which is why he was able to punt Queen like he did. It wasn't just because his leg got hotter and Queen jumped farther or something. His attacks are, the damage from his attacks are getting amplified. So when he's using Ifrit, when he's using Ifrit on a character like Marco, you can say he's not going to get burnt or something from it, but he's still going to feel the amplified damage from that attack. You're really having a hard time explaining this, bro, and it's okay. So do you believe that his fire is real fire, or do you just think that it's his burning, burning will? Whose fire is real fire? Sanji's? Sanji's, yeah. Yeah, I think it's real fire. Okay, so fire cancels out. No matter what kind of fire you're saying it is, it cancels out against Marco. Flames don't, flames don't matter to him. Do you, do you think that the damage amplified from his attacks is due to the fire? I would say because he has an exoskeleton, he's able to have stronger muscles, because he's allowed to go faster, and then he's allowed to hit harder. So his arm and hockey is pretty good. The point you're making in this Marco nullifies his attacks and all that yada yada, is that there's a major crutch from Sanji's toolkit being taken away from him in this matchup with Marco. What I'm trying to explain that the fire is, really, negligible in the case of his matchup with Marco. Really, Marco's, Marco's, the biggest thing that comes from Marco's flames is just in whole his regeneration. Do you feel the same way about Akainu's punch? Akainu's punch? Yeah. Do you think Akainu has the same burning will that you're explaining about Sanji? Sanji's, the way Sanji's, Sanji's body is totally different than Akainu's body. Okay. And his, he doesn't have a devil fruit. Do you think Sanji's leg burns hotter than Akainu's fire fist? I'm, I'm not, we're not talking about the fire or the, or the flames. I'm getting there, brother. And this is, and this is what I wanted to know. This is, this is what I wanted to bring up earlier. We were talking about all the attacks that Marco blocked and does. There were all devil fruit, like they, they all were in line with like devil fruit properties. Mm-hmm it weren't like really like he, he he's had, he's had like, he, he met with, with Kizaru in the air on like a cake, which was cool. Right. But it was like, let's, let's go back. Right. So again, do you think Sanji burns hotter than Akainu or not? No, I wouldn't say that. Right. Who do you think has the better hockey, Akainu or Sanji? Akainu. Marco blocked that. In what manner though? Uh, he was trying to punch, if I'm not mistaken, Luffy. That'd be correct. Was it, was it his, was it his fist directly? Uh, yeah. Hmm. I don't know then. The thing about that is Marine Force scaling is crazy. So, so Marine Force scaling is crazy, brother. We don't need much evidence. We already know that an Admiral is going to be stronger than a second commander and a first commander. Okay. I mean, Marine Force scaling is crazy because, but it's still Akainu. There's just like crocodile were a few arcs away from being defeated by Luffy and, and, and clashing with Mihawk and, and, and. Brother, that's, that's crocodile, my brother. We're talking about an Admiral. No matter where an Admiral is in the story of One Piece, an Admiral's goal is going to be stronger than a second and first commander. But that's another character though. I'm using, I'm using character like crocodile, uh, uh, a warlord who was shown just a couple arcs prior to Marine Force to be defeated by a character like Luffy, like upstart Luffy to all of a sudden being able to clash with characters like Mihawk and, and get attacked. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying Marine Force scaling is, is, is warkey. Brother, chapter 575, page five, the top of the panel. Marco, after he blocked Akainu's punch, didn't have to worry about any stamina or any damage. No, it's, I'm going to say it's cool. You get what I'm saying? It's cool. So again, the fact that you're mentioning, again, so the fact that you already admitted that Sanji doesn't have stronger hockey. Than Akainu. And also his flames don't burn hotter than Akainu's. It shows that whatever Sanji does to Marco is going to be lesser than Akainu. And that's not going to be an issue for him. So if Sanji's hockey and flames are not as hot as Akainu's, I'm sorry, brother. Like there's not much Sanji can do. He's going to have to rely on the suspected hockey blossom that he's going to have from his conquerors. And that's fine. I'll give it to him. But then he's going to have to know. how to actually defeat Marco with it, and we don't know where that's going to be at you feel me i think i think sanji's overly qualified to deal enough damage to put a character like mark out of commission you know it's so crazy i feel like you're starting to like sound like sebastian where like sometimes you guys just say i i know so instead of going okay like here's here's the the evidence that's been presented you've already admitted that this is this is what it is and now you can't find a way to like digest that information so you're like oh no no no i'm sorry i still think that i said perfectly reasonable i mean i think everybody and their mom knows that marine force killing is don't let don't let don't let larry simple ass disrespect you oh yeah yeah i knew like i don't know what you're saying i just know so that's not really an answer that's just hey my feelings matter this man that like what queen would lose to sentomaru and that black beer would get one tap by luchi conversations back but if you feel like that's the only way that you could win in this debate but if you want to do that let's stick to the argument let's not push the goalpost back we're here right now right so if you're going to bring up evidence as to why he could win make it so and that's okay okay but you're going to have to say seb you ain't got a hand you ain't got a you know what i'm saying if you want to join you could join you you you came at me so i pushed back at you you came here you're known you're just saying i just know so and you're known for saying stupid so what are we doing i'm saying something stupid what what what's wrong with what i said i'm saying something stupid so so again you see like here's the emotional side of sebastian coming up i'm i'm like he has to curse i'm trying to understand he has to say something about me that he can't you know i'm trying to understand there's been many years of sebastian's i just know so's and being told he's wrong and then he ends up wrong listen you still haven't been able to show us any critical damage that marco dealt to uh to queen and then sanji dealt it when like the millisecond he awoken his his his germa uh his germa upgrades and you want to bring back wonky scaling from the most the most i mean this is like the infamously most ridiculed arc for scaling which is marine for it yeah so again and you wait wait wait not because you brought up goalpost shifting earlier i want you to still bring up a critical attack that marco dealt to to queen or king i'll give you both characters even either a critical a single critical attack not just a little blood out the mouth okay so a little blood out the mouth was told to you as a reader that it hurt and he was leaking and then marco kicked him again and then he kicked him out of his full-fledged zoan form yeah we get that it hurt was it critical damage so again you keep mentioning critical damage it's kind of like you're strawmanning the argument at this point because it's like did marco get a full-fledged fight with queen because i can easily do that same logic back so if he didn't get a full-fledged fight with queen there's no way for me to go hey he did critical damage to the point that you can't you can't bring that up as like a a counter like as a reason to to to to say that he didn't get critical damage off him when earlier when you were recounting the fight you were making it seem like he was putting bta to them like he was like he was off and running their pockets and all this and that were they able to do anything to him during that time when they were like both fighting him he was totally he didn't do anything other than than what he was supposed to do and when he when his job was done what did he say the stars are ready for the show and he got the way and he let sanji leap over his head like jordan yeah like and he and he and he knew who the real stars were were ready to to fight take his fate for him right we're gonna ignore narration now ignore narration going on for a minute bro yeah because didn't narration propose that sanji and zoro had to fight those two instead of him that's the reason why he stopped fighting oh now we're going to narration bro all right again you keep mentioning that marco is not doing what sanji had to do during this arc you're placing the whole point of him being a great fighter or better than sanji based upon what narration was delivering us it required sanji and zoro to fight these two it didn't require marco to fight these two or even to beat these two but when they were fighting him and oda did give him the spotlight when they start started fighting they weren't able to land on him they weren't able to get critical shots on him and they both had their shots hell king who has to what have really good hockey too to some degree he's a first commander he cut marco's wing in half and it did absolutely nothing to him you can't do that you can't you can't just attribute him being a first commander to saying he has a really great hockey because we saw cat cat has observation hockey to have cat has good observation hockey but are we acting like if if if if cat scaling first commanders to make are we are we acting like if cat if cat punched if cat punched marco's marco's body is doing crazy damage it might be you want to know why come on we lost the plot hold on you know because he actually can infuse conquerors hockey into his attacks daddy why wouldn't he be able to we're just yeah remember remember you know hitter remember five minutes ago when he blocked the kind of no problem oh come on son did you did you not see the chapter that was a cat problem we we lost we lost the plot bro i'm not i'm not understanding because you're saying he blocked a kind of easily right did he not do that on chapter five no no you're missing what we're saying then you're saying that cats armament hockey would be too much for him or could be i'm saying a kind of most likely didn't infuse conquerors hockey into that attack and that's what i'm saying we're saying when when has cat shown that he can infuse conquerors hockey in his attacks he might have been doing it into the armament hockey attacks one thousand percent he might have been doing it actually no he did do it no no no hold on hold on you guys are laughing i'm gonna give you evidence do you guys remember buzz mochi uh-huh because cat did it twice those were two conquerors hockey attacks are those confirmed to be are those confirmed to be conquerors hockey attacks like are they listen if you want me to pull up i'll pull it up i'm asking because i got i i see i could do that because there's actual evidence of what i'm saying that buzz buzz come off he's a can you still pull up the critical evidence can you pull up that evidence of of queen of of marco dealing critical uh damage to queen or king it's it's all right we we got to get another group in here we got what was that song i'm actually doing no you guys are asking me a question and i'm going to research it to prove you wrong see a lot of the things i'm saying is on panel a lot of things you're saying is just headcanning it's definitely on pedal i'll be i'll wait to the end of the day for a a pedal of marco dealing critical damage to queen or cat or king right larry let me let me let me let me know about buzz cut dog but we do got to get to another group so you had him not not getting past marco no he's he's not getting past more not getting past marco uh yeah hi def just just for boccella bro okay uh cat cat who had him getting the cat who's that i'm switching he's stopping at king i'm switching it switching stopping at king okay yeah okay and then twilight you staying at stopping at rayleigh or are you switching up i'll stay at rayleigh and hit him you staying at stopping at kuzan are you switching up he gets past rayleigh gets smited by kuzan all right we got some super chats i'm gonna read those now and then we'll get to the next group y'all if you guys like this please like the stream if you haven't already um i knew the sanji one was gonna get heated in here pun intended um but yeah like the stream we got five from k five out of here it says tell sanji to just assume the position because he about to get clapped that's what he said uh maybe i mean it's it's a pretty split vote right now between four mods another five from red eyes it says we was talking in the chat about sanji versus cat sanji using knives question mark because technically he's mochi he's food he cooking cat literally question marks just a thought i've argued the sanji versus cat that he'd be allowed to use um his cooking expertise and it could factor or play a factor in the fight but we got to get him past marco first man you know i'm saying another five from keifa it says ask yourselves this could sanji have made blackbeard run away the same way raylee did um no but i will say that that is more cachet than any actual scaling i'll say that raylee himself admitted that his name carried more weight than what his blade would do in that fight another two from purple d popcorn i know y'all got zero integrity let me get let me buy your votes are you talking to us are you talking to the rest of the people who you talking about the ddt's have always been integrity based okay we've never taken cash for votes in the ddt except that one time except that except that one time and then another two from josie dirts it says sanji beats katakuri he'll use his hands people think his hands piece i mean unless he has knives on him the using of the hands isn't going to help him too much because he's not he's not going to be like throwing punches and he's not going to be hockey coding those punches so like unless you're giving him some sort of like knife in the fight like him using the hands isn't exactly you know like i'm seeing the post you sent i would say this does look like conquer sake i would say that i got one more i'm not gonna lie i thought you were talking about different tech i thought you're talking about the one that lawrence to be talking about where he uh punched luffy's hands and this is and this is also the second one that he used it a second time um because you can see it at the bottom left panel that's true can everybody wants to know it's chapter 895 pages uh 15 16 and 17 if i believe oh pages 10 and 11 and 15 17 yeah i i ain't messing with it and putting the panels on pay up panel no more man after uh the strikes i got last week last yesterday i ain't doing it i ain't doing it no more but we did get uh 20 gifted memberships from john d water that'll get a couple people in here to join the debate so thank you john really appreciate that throw the knock on my for john in the chat um let's get a new group in here to discuss this matchup and we gotta move the ddt entrance above the regular entrance because it's messing me up all right there we go there we go all right let's get a group of five one two three four five in here all right one two three four five all right 3d buh boy uh who else is on here i can't see everybody fallen welcome welcome down on the vibe so you got what diff and why it is a gauntlet style ddt sanji is facing some of his well some of the commanders first right hands or whatever in the show round one is marco round two is kata curry round three is king round four is old rayleigh and round five is kuzan how far do y'all think sanji will get in the right hand man gauntlet we will start with 3d he'll have full recovery after each round okay uh yeah first of all i just want to say you know blessed to be a part of another uh delicious delightful ddt why do why do i even bring 3d in here man i don't even know why i do it i'm saying thanks i'm thanks thanks man thanks yo delicious was crazy i can't lie i can't i can't get my thanks all right i think he stops that cat okay um i think it's gonna be like when birder and jace were trying to hit goku and they couldn't hit him um he's gonna have that future site and sanji's not going to be able to really land much um sanji doesn't have the you know the regeneration exoskeleton uh but i do think cat has enough pop and you know he can i think he can infuse some conquers into his attacks and take down sanji okay appreciate the take stopping at cat let's go to 3d oh no uh fallen hey man i'm honestly a little torn can i go left sure we'll move on to king of scrubs what's up everyone um damn i question i don't can't remember the top of my head but has sanji actually burned anyone with his flames um giabra way back in the day when he first got diablo john bay mentioned that he was burning if that is the case then this is this is this is high speculation but i feel like king would be resistant to that wouldn't he i mean he controls flames so i don't i don't see why not a case where he's resistant to flames a similar situation to marco's i i don't i don't think it's past cat but that's personal bias so i'm going to go with that i'm going to go with that i'm going to go with that i'm going to put that aside i think i think he's for sure stops at railing i'm not saying really is compared to garp but as we've seen from garp slow and old don't mean nothing right you ain't at your prime granted you don't hit as hard as you do but like i mean who's taking galaxy punches to the face like that and i'm not really really for me isn't at that level but he's not far off and i don't i don't think sanji can take a tackle like that or even similar to that consistently and again that's in question really stamina in general but i think i think like soft stop at railing but i think with king i it's similar argument to marco right but i think marco i think the congress hockey that's where it comes in play but i think king's going to be resistant to those flames and he ain't gonna do anything so stop at railing stops that right okay all right we'll move on to my boy hello um honestly i don't have sanji passing marco i don't think he gets past the homey the you know we've literally talked about um the sabo match up too with marco and you know a lot of people said that marco would win because of the devil fruit and the flame properties and whatever so i think it would be the same for sanji um flames counteracting flames okay appreciate the take uh diamond um i got sanji stopping at old railing okay uh i feel like um sanji is has surpassed um the rest of the first commanders i mean they all he has his own unique struggle um I don't think he's gonna be able to pull each one because like cat marco and king it's kind of like the pokemon starter where they all kind of beat each other and lose to like the other one and i feel like sanji is gonna struggle with each one but he's gonna find a way to win and i mean i might switch up and say he stopped at kuzon depending on if he could unlock conquer's hockey against rayleigh but i think it's safe to say he stopped already okay okay all right all right all right falling falling falling you ready you ready you ready yeah yeah yeah uh uh uh i mean honestly i was pouring between king i mean honestly i was pouring between king i mean honestly i was pouring between king and rayleigh but i don't think he's going to get and rayleigh but i don't think he's going to get and rayleigh but i don't think he's going to get fast king all sanji's kid is flame based fast king all sanji's kid is flame based fast king all sanji's kid is flame based and and and kings like the kings like the kings like the other than marco he's the flame guy i other than marco he's the flame guy i other than marco he's the flame guy i mean i know sanji can be fast enough to mean i know sanji can be fast enough to hit him with his flame off i mean with hit him with his flame off i mean with hit him with his flame off i mean with king's flame off king's flame off king's flame off i just don't think like even with the uh i just don't think like even with the uh i just don't think like even with the uh jambi that he's going to be able to end jambi that he's going to be able to end jambi that he's going to be able to end up taking him out soro almost died up taking him out soro almost died up taking him out soro almost died taking him out and he had to push taking him out and he had to push taking him out and he had to push himself to the himself to the himself to the to the p and i do not have sanji over to the p and i do not have sanji over soro so i think he would lose the king soro so i think he would lose the king soro so i think he would lose the king okay okay okay all right that ends the original round i all right that ends the original round i all right that ends the original round i will open it up for a five minutes of will open it up for a five minutes of will open it up for a five minutes of deliberation between y'all so it's 6 36 my time y'all stop but we had a didn't get past marco we had gets to uh rayleigh so some differing takes there y'all speak on it see see if y'all can switch somebody's vote up i i want to hear even though i said he stops at rayleigh this might be some cat biasism what i want to know what everybody thinks why he does beat cat because everything in his kit it's not necessarily anything crazy or outstanding in comparison to cat so sorry i think his uh durability is going to be the deciding factor against cat yeah his future i mean he has cat has future sight but sanji is the observation guy on the team so i think he'd be like luffy he would learn future sight but sanji is the observation guy on the team so i think he'd be like luffy he would learn future sight but sanji is the observation guy on the team so i think he'd be like luffy he would learn future sight but sanji is the observation guy on the team so i think he'd be like luffy he would battle and with his speed i think he'll be able to uh kind of bypass cat's uh future fight and like one i forgot he said it cats made a mochi that means sanji is not just going to end up using his feet think about what happened when he was on the train to in his lobby and bought that new guy he used knives when he realized that it was food he's able to he didn't just kick and even if he does i think the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from the heat from his his his cake like diablo dande will cook cat's mochi and make it unusable oh i got a comment uh i was gonna say katakuri uses fire attacks so i don't i don't really think the fire is gonna really hurt him that much plus yeah really hurt him that much plus yeah really hurt him that much plus yeah good good good but it's the heat of sanji's kick like but it's the heat of sanji's kick like but it's the heat of sanji's kick like the heat of this diablo jambe burns hotter the heat of this diablo jambe burns hotter the heat of this diablo jambe burns hotter than than than i mean almost magma i mean he doesn't get i mean almost magma i mean he doesn't get i mean almost magma i mean he doesn't get to akaiju's level but i looked it up and to akaiju's level but i looked it up and to akaiju's level but i looked it up and it's it's it's it's up there it's thousands of degrees it's up there it's thousands of degrees it's up there it's thousands of degrees hot hot hot i mean i mean when cat did it he didn't i mean i mean when cat did it he didn't i mean i mean when cat did it he didn't it looked like it was just regular fire it looked like it was just regular fire it looked like it was just regular fire sanji got blue fire which is hotter even sanji got blue fire which is hotter even sanji got blue fire which is hotter even if cat ends up if cat ends up if cat ends up flaming his cell i think uh sanji will be flaming his cell i think uh sanji will be flaming his cell i think uh sanji will be able to bypass that heat and still be able to bypass that heat and still be able to bypass that heat and still be able to burn able to burn able to burn so do you think catakuri haki haki is so do you think catakuri haki haki is so do you think catakuri haki haki is weaker than sanji's weaker than sanji's weaker than sanji's yeah so he can yeah so he can yeah so he can yeah but sanji also has cooking as well yeah but sanji also has cooking as well yeah but sanji also has cooking as well i mean he also has i mean he also has i mean he also has armament like he can he can throw armament like he can he can throw armament like he can he can throw armament on his foot and then now if armament on his foot and then now if armament on his foot and then now if it's fair and reasonable in the last two it's fair and reasonable in the last two it's fair and reasonable in the last two or not last chapter but the one before or not last chapter but the one before or not last chapter but the one before that they emphasized him that he might that they emphasized him that he might that they emphasized him that he might be a conqueror's hockey user be a conqueror's hockey user be a conqueror's hockey user so let's say mike not that he is right so let's say mike not that he is right so let's say mike not that he is right i mean i think for sure he'll get it i mean i think for sure he'll get it i mean i think for sure he'll get it but i think i mean we know cat's got but i think i mean we know cat's got but i think i mean we know cat's got more experience with it more experience with it more experience with it yeah but it's fair and reasonable than yeah but it's fair and reasonable than yeah but it's fair and reasonable than the dbt man the dbt man the dbt man yeah but it's very reasonable it's true yeah but it's very reasonable it's true yeah but it's very reasonable it's true oh go ahead and i'll just say when like oh go ahead and i'll just say when like oh go ahead and i'll just say when like i'm sonji when it's cat's future site i'm sonji when it's cat's future site i'm sonji when it's cat's future site pre-german awakening like he kind of pre-german awakening like he kind of pre-german awakening like he kind of dodged a jelly bean i mean it's not dodged a jelly bean i mean it's not dodged a jelly bean i mean it's not like a crazy feat but like considering like a crazy feat but like considering like a crazy feat but like considering where sonji was back then where sonji was back then where sonji was back then like it's pretty impressive that he was like it's pretty impressive that he was like it's pretty impressive that he was able to like do something cat couldn't able to like do something cat couldn't able to like do something cat couldn't see see see and like i don't think cat can react to and like i don't think cat can react to and like i don't think cat can react to sonji because i'm one of those people sonji because i'm one of those people sonji because i'm one of those people that believe sonji at his full speed is that believe sonji at his full speed is that believe sonji at his full speed is faster than snake man faster than snake man faster than snake man and also if like and also if like and also if like if we're giving sanji all this if we're giving sanji all this if we're giving sanji all this speculation we can speculate about cat speculation we can speculate about cat speculation we can speculate about cat what if he awakens advanced armament or what if he awakens advanced armament or what if he awakens advanced armament or advanced characters yeah like sorry sorry sorry i'm sorry i was gonna say someone was i'm sorry i was gonna say someone was i'm sorry i was gonna say someone was for a hot minute and i feel like after for a hot minute and i feel like after for a hot minute and i feel like after like after he fought luffy that was like after he fought luffy that was like after he fought luffy that was probably i can't say for sure but that probably i can't say for sure but that probably i can't say for sure but that was like clearly one of the first fights was like clearly one of the first fights was like clearly one of the first fights where he like lost where he like lost where he like lost so i mean what's why wouldn't he have so i mean what's why wouldn't he have so i mean what's why wouldn't he have learned or gained more learned or gained more learned or gained more knowledge and power from that fight alone knowledge and power from that fight alone knowledge and power from that fight alone you know what i mean yeah you know what i mean yeah you know what i mean yeah like title said even people with conqueror like title said even people with conqueror like title said even people with conqueror it's only like a select few it's only like a select few it's only like a select few kind of fusing into our attacks like kind of fusing into our attacks like kind of fusing into our attacks like maybe pat khan because i mentioned maybe pat khan because i mentioned maybe pat khan because i mentioned earlier about the thing buzz mochi earlier about the thing buzz mochi earlier about the thing buzz mochi like like like he's he's a genius but he's not like he's he's a genius but he's not like he's he's a genius but he's not like luffy level genius because luffy level genius because luffy level genius because luffy was kind of luffy was kind of luffy was kind of using cat as like a using cat as like a using cat as like a like like training dummy like like training dummy like like training dummy like leveling up his hockey like leveling up his hockey like leveling up his hockey yeah being able to kill and um being able to kill and um being able to kill and um or or or kill and um beat or overcome a cat kill and um beat or overcome a cat kill and um beat or overcome a cat observation but to be able to do that observation but to be able to do that observation but to be able to do that wouldn't you have to wouldn't you have to wouldn't you have to have and utilize conquerors hockey to have and utilize conquerors hockey to have and utilize conquerors hockey to kill the kill the kill the cat's observation or no cat's observation or no cat's observation or no no i mean just because you have conquerors no i mean just because you have conquerors no i mean just because you have conquerors hockey doesn't make you hockey doesn't make you hockey doesn't make you more adorable look at kid he was still more adorable look at kid he was still more adorable look at kid he was still he still gets hit i mean about the future side because i mean about the future side because i mean about the future side because i'm just i don't know who exactly it was i'm just i don't know who exactly it was i'm just i don't know who exactly it was but someone said that um but someone said that um but someone said that um you know sanji could kill you know sanji could kill you know sanji could kill and beat um and beat um and beat um cat's future site so to kill someone cat's future site so to kill someone cat's future site so to kill someone else's future site you have to use else's future site you have to use else's future site you have to use conqueror hockey don't you conqueror hockey don't you conqueror hockey don't you like yeah i don't think that it's a like yeah i don't think that it's a like yeah i don't think that it's a hit like an observation killing feet i hit like an observation killing feet i hit like an observation killing feet i just think he's fast enough just think he's fast enough just think he's fast enough to a move where cat can't see him in to a move where cat can't see him in to a move where cat can't see him in his future side his future side his future side yeah it'll be like title blitzing yeah it'll be like title blitzing yeah it'll be like title blitzing luffy right after he got the punch luffy right after he got the punch luffy right after he got the punch but he couldn't react but he couldn't react but he couldn't react with snake man and snake man was with snake man and snake man was with snake man and snake man was is pretty fast i i'd say fast as fast is pretty fast i i'd say fast as fast as Sanji. Not with his awakening. And then stuff like that. I think Sanji's faster, man. That is his whole thing. The monster trio. You got Sanji observation and his speed. You got Zoro and his armament and his strength. And then you have Luffy with his Conquerors. Alright, y'all. That is time. That is time. Alright. Last round of voting. Is anybody switching up? We got one negative. Not beating Marco. One stopping at Cat. One stopping at King. Two stopping at Rayleigh. Anybody switching their vote? I do want to switch my vote because I think he stops at King because I'm more thinking about it. I don't think the Flames is really going to matter much to King. I think he's going to be resistant to it. And I think everything else in Sanji's kit isn't strong enough to get past King. I just want to say he beat Eshart. Just want to point that out there. Yo, Eshart is nowhere near the durability, the battle IQ, and everything. Just because he got Lunarian genes doesn't make him as good as King. Sanji knows how to counter Lunarian defense. Hold up, y'all. Hold up, y'all. No more rebuttals. Where were you originally? I was originally, he stops at Rayleigh. So now I'm going to say he stops at King. Okay. Anybody else switching their vote? Nah. Nope. No. Alright. Sounds good. Appreciate the take, y'all. Stick around. We might root people back in. Probably not, but we'll see. Alright. Have a good night. Hey, man. Thank you very much. We waiting on slime, Larry. My man was in a gym or something, bro. I couldn't hear what he was saying half the time. He was taking a dookie. Alright. Who did I just want? All right, let's get Keyon in here. Fuego, Sanji, Tyler, and Creative Broccoli. All right. Talk to me, y'all. Actually, before I get to y'all, mute up. We did a couple more super chats that came in. So we got two from Creator Keyon. It says Sanji is dancing on Marco's defeated body. Well, Keyon can speak to it when he gets in here. Another two from Keyon. Sanji is speed blitzing Katakuri into the ground. Okay. And then he's turning King into Dino Nuggets. Hashtag VinSmoke. Another two. Sanji is losing to Rayleigh with better hockey use. Keyon, why didn't you just wait till I dragged you in here for you to speak on this stuff, man? What's up? Well, thank you. Appreciate it. We need to get another 20 gifted memberships from BlackBull1089. So thank you so much. That'll get a couple more people in here as well. And then another five. Gifted or another $5 from Joey Dengs. BlackBull, a real one. Good looks on the membo. Let me get some barks in the chat from all the sea dogs. Also, like the stream. Yeah, like the stream, guys. I see 220 people in here, but only 84 likes. Hit that like button, y'all. It helps with the YouTube algorithm. And I don't know if I called this out earlier, but we did get another 10 gifted memberships from John D. Water. So thank you guys so much. Y'all can come off mute now. How many people do we have in here? I don't even know. It's hard to keep track here. Keon, Fuego, Mario, Sanji, and Twily. Tyler. All right, that's five. All right. As y'all know, Sanji is running the right-hand man gauntlet. Full recovery after each round. Round one is Marco. Round two is Katakuri. Round three is King. Round four is Rayleigh. And round five is Kuzan, who's technically not a right-hand, but you know the vibes. Who you got, what diff, and why? How far does Sanji get in this gauntlet? Does he clear? Or does he not even make it past round one? I will start it off with Creator Keon. He's the first on my list here. Keon, talk to me. to me, man. You kind of gave your take already in the chat. Do you want to speak on it? Keon, if you're talking, you're muted. Oh, sorry. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you now. Honestly speaking, I think Sanji, he clears rounds one through three from low diff, mid diff, mid diff, then gets the really. and he loses. I feel like Sanji has enough speed and hockey-wise to easily get over Marco and stay in the air long enough with his skywalk technique. Katakuri, I feel like Sanji is fast enough on a gear for Snake Man to overwhelm Katakuri, and since Sanji doesn't have to stretch multiple of his arms, he can be able to get more hits in than I think even Luffy's Black Mamba technique. And finally for King, I feel like Sanji is smart enough to realize when King's flames are out that he shouldn't attack and he'll wait until it goes out to start wailing on him. But I say he stops that rarely because he rarely got that Conqueror's Hockey and knows how to utilize it well enough that I don't think Sanji is able to compete yet. Low-diff Marco is wild, bro. I ain't gonna lie. That was a wild one. Low-diff? Yes. Marco ain't been low-diffed by anybody. It's gonna be Sanji, that dude? I mean, yes, I believe so. Hey, man, I can't co-sign that one, dog. Low-diff. No, you have to. You have to co-sign it. That's your people. Nah, bro, that's insane. That's your people, bro. Low-diff, bro? Yes. He can negate some of the kit that Sanji got. He low-diffed them. That's Sanji got better hockey usage. Listen, I don't like the idea of. Low-diff is wild, man. Low-diff is wild. Marco, my boy, too. I don't put any of these gauntlets together assuming any of them are low-diffs. Okay? So it hurts my heart. To hear y'all would say that, even if it is Sanji. I'm not a Sanji fan. I'm not a Sanji fan. I'm a casual Sanji fan. I don't know, man. As an actual Sanji fan, low-diff is crazy. But I appreciate the take, creator. We will move on to Fuego. Fuego, what's going on, bro? What's popping, brother? Chilling, man. Chilling. Talk to me, bro. How far does Sanji get? Sanji, as we know him right now, it's kind of hard, bro. I feel like the disrespect be so crazy because I feel like he could put down Marco, but what are you going to have to pull out the bag to put down Marco because of the regeneration? It's just. It's going to be crazy, bro. And then to get the cat. I mean, cat got the mochi, but the future side, he got the speed, it's tough, bro. It's tough because I see people putting him all the way to three, all the way to four. It's hard for me to see him getting past one. And if he do get past one, how are you going to get. As we know him right now, we ain't seeing him fight no competition that's better than what Marco. Well, probably Marco, but not what Cat put up. I just. We haven't seen anything. So I'm going to say. Dang. I give him a little grace. I say he stop that cat. Okay. And that's me being nice. I'm not. Listen, say what you feel, bro. If you don't think he beat Marco, then say you don't beat Marco, man. I mean, if he did, it's extreme to the highest level for me. Seeing what Marco did and the kind of people. Like, he put himself up against. I ain't saying Marco beat nobody. All I'm saying is the fact that his durability and regeneration and his battle experience being in so many battles, the kid just. It's going to be hard, bro. Sanji just. As of right now, bro, I got him. I'll say. Like I said, I'll say he'll stop that cat. I'll get him stopping that cat. Okay. I appreciate. He stops that cat. I appreciate that. Sanji's sake. We'll go to the namesake. Sanji. I wonder. I wonder what you got. No, no, no, no. Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. Trust me. I knew as soon as I got into this, I was like, man, they're going to look at this and be like. Think that I'm going to give him the full clear. I'm not. I like to think I'm a fairly grounded Sanji kind of person. You know, I love the hype that he gets, but I also, you know, at the same time, I hate it. I hate seeing that he gets too much glaze when he don't. He doesn't really put it out enough to be getting it. But that is not to say that he doesn't have any competition or anybody he can't beat in this gauntlet. Personally, I think he still can get past Marco. Am I saying it's an easy fight? Absolutely not. I mean, this guy was the right-hand man of the strongest man in the world. So, by no means is Marco an easy feat. But, at the same time, although, you know, Marco is a flame-based ability, Sanji is also flame-based, a frit is a mix of hockey into his kicks. So, even if flames from Marco are in play, the hockey's still going to hit. And a frit, with how fast of successive hits he can hit, I don't see the regeneration being, like, the key thing that would be the problem in that fight. Like I said, I don't see it being a dog walk by any means. But I still think that Sanji can eke it out. Just considering how hard it hits, how fast he can hit. The argument before, I know that, you know, Larry brought it up. To Queen, Sanji goes invisible. But that's from Queen's perspective. At no point, did we see Marco go invisible to Queen. So, I would take that as an argument that maybe Sanji is faster than Marco. Considering he completely lost sight of Sanji when he popped a frit. Not once did he lose sight of Marco. I could be wrong on that, but that's just how I see it. With Cat, man, I would love for that, the order to be swapped a little. I'd argue that Cat is a harder fight for him than King is. But, Cat, both with his devil fruit being mochi and it being sticky, and Sanji literally only being physical attacks, whether it's hockey or not, Cat's hockey is better, regardless. His hockey was better than Snake Man Luffy at Whole Cake. So, there's not really an argument that Sanji, you know, had this ridiculous upshoot in power. You know, I still think Cat would, would take Sanji out. You know, the whole conquerors into the attack, you know, I believe that. I always kind of felt that even if he wasn't directly infusing it, he's still a conqueror himself. Conquerors, regardless, would be leaking out of Cat's attacks. Especially if he pushed Cat as hard as Luffy did at the final attack that he put on Luffy at the end of their fight. I think Cat's future sight is way too strong. The only reason why Luffy was getting around it was because he could put so much out so fast in terms of so many punches, you know, them just zipping around him. It's hard to keep up with. But even mid-fight, Cat still learned how to read that. Did he dodge every single one? No, but he was still, you know, he was still dodging some of them, which is a feat in itself, I would argue. So, I think he probably just stops at Cat. Um, he puts up a good fight, maybe. Maybe he gets one or two good licks in. The moment he pulls out the Mochi buzz cut, it's kind of game. Once he gets slammed with a conqueror attack, he's not going to get up super quick from that. Okay. Appreciate the take. Mario. Hello. What's going on, man? I know it's early for you, bro. I hope you're good. I just woke up, so my brain is still not fully functional. I will give my all on this. Let's just see the first round, Marco. I say he definitely get past Marco at this point. Like he, I feel like he has risen to the level that he can do it. He would definitely get past Marco. And I say it's like a, definitely a high diff because of, mainly because of his regeneration and how both of their powers kind of cancel each other out to a certain degree. so let's move on then to the next match uh cats this is a very tricky one because like just like sanji said like can he really beat him because like without future sight speed is definitely not gonna get you much because uh the the only reason why cat loss is because of how tangible or like how unpredictable that snake man is like even with future sight he saw how fast snake man was was able to dodge one attack but got hit because it was so tangible it land back a second backshot on like it's it's unpredictable like you can't predict where it's gonna land because of how tangible or like how how flexible it is you know like sanji you he's always gonna kick you in the face straight up whatever he's using because of how he fights right so like is if it even if it jambe if it like the the the most red multi-shot thing the barrage gun it's gonna be multiple kicks and cat is definitely seeing that thing coming a mile away using his future sight but can he knock him out before he tires out that's the biggest question that we have to ask ourselves because like as as hard as cats hit sanji can like cut sort of like heal himself or like regenerate from broken bones and stuff so like if let's say mochi uh the buzz cutter knock him straight in the rib like let's just say he got like a fracture or like internal damage like he can just heal that but like if he got a direct hit to the head or like direct hit to the dome of the face can he heal from head injuries just like how he how uh how he healed from like broken bones and stuff i don't know man i said no because like it's part of your brain if you can heal your brain from concussion or like to make you conscious again that would be insane so i said i'll give it to cat this round because i i don't see any possible way for him to bypass cat's future site to the point where he can attack he can land another attack against someone who can see the future when your attack is only straight up to the face kick or like back kick which cat is definitely seeing it coming okay both will be like high to extreme because like it's still a harder fight you know oh yeah it's kind of sad sanji stops that cat when like realistically speaking his level should be way above that but because of how his performance and how he fights i have to say he stops that cat man he has to stop the cat even if even if like last chapter even if sanji like really has or like said to have congress i say he still lose because like having conqueror doesn't make you win every single battle it's like saying danji chao is gonna win against sanji just because he has congress it doesn't make sense right okay appreciate the take mario uh tyler yeah yo yo you there yeah i'm here all right talk to us man how far does sanji get all right if i'm being real i feel like sanji's got more pop than marco but when it comes to regenerative abilities like sanji can't hold a candle to marco's regenerative abilities he could just take way more than sanji ever could like i don't see sanji doing what marco didn't want to i don't see sanji tanking hits like marco was in marine ford like when garp punched uh marco at marine ford i know there was an argument a couple weeks ago that wasn't a love tap that was definitely most definitely like a hockey infused like yo i'm not letting you get close i'm gonna knock you out and it took him a second to get back up but he did get back up i don't see sanji taking a punch from garp like that um but i do think sanji has more pop marco's not marco's not known for popping people but uh it i think he gets past marco extreme div huh just because of his uh his lethality when it comes to cat i i don't know if i'm going to be able to i i don't see him beating cat huh and uh i know i think it was like last episode y'all were like having a little talk about it a little little discussion about cat and i heard i i forget uh if it was both the twins or one of the twins they said cat has a like cat can almost fight big mom like on an even level like they know everything about her yeah i don't agree with that at all but i don't i think zoro is going to be able to do that i don't think he's going to be able to do that i don't think zoro would struggle with cat right now like i don't know like who would you say do you say like what diff did zoro beat lucia like was that was that like a mid to high diff fight like i don't know he kind of i feel like he locked in and just one tapped him for real yeah but uh that was that was a that was an interesting fight man i'll say that i'll say that yeah i i don't think it should have dragged on for that long that was crazy but uh i'll say he stops at cat and it's barely like i i i'm torn between letting him even get past marco because i feel like marco could just take hits from him for like hours it really depends on how how long sanji can fight for like if if i feel like marco is just gonna last like i'd say it'd be like a day or two fight and i want to see if sanji could go that far like fight for that long but uh yeah i'll give him the pass on marco even though i don't want like i'm torn but he definitely stopping at cat okay appreciate the take tyler and then broccoli i saw the pfb change i'm wondering where you're going here yes sir everybody i hear you hyping up sanji all i can hear is your soundboard clip of the but yeah let's be real he's not beating marco and i can just keep it short and sweet but i just don't think he puts him down and honestly i don't even think marco is the easiest fight on here i could if i'm being nice i could say i could see sanji beating cat but i just don't see him beating marco to be honest from my from my point of view so that's where i'll go yeah i'll say this the the ranking of the first commanders was interesting i tried to go with the consensus that i feel like i see in the community um but it's it's it varies by person to person i've had like four people tell me marco should have been three i had people tell me king should have been round one i i've had people tell me that yeah i've had people tell me that cat should have been round three or four even i was like all right okay i i don't know so um but all right you got him stopping not even getting past marco okay this was yeah we had a couple squeak by marcos um a couple we had four stops at cat we had one stop and one doesn't get past marco so there's a big range i guess between like the highest and the lowest uh vote on here so i'll give you guys five minutes to deliberate at 705 my time we're stopping so go ahead who said he stops at rayleigh i did how do you figure how do you figure he beats three people zoro struggles with well for well because in the in the in the series i haven't seen marco against against i think i think it's more of marco outlasting what sanji can do that's why i was like like i'm probably low key gonna switch to he stops at marco because marco just can last forever like you can just take hits from way stronger people like consistently i was seeing marco block two admirals at the same time at marine fort like yeah he's the defensive powerhouse hold on i don't remember that i don't count that hold on when when did he do that i don't remember that when did he do that hang on i was just looking at the panels i'll pull them up i know he blocked but i mean he didn't last with that block against a kind of kind of kind of pushed through him after a couple seconds i have a panel right here marco blocking the sacred jewel and he says i'm not gonna let you take the king first when he was trying to kill whitebeard oh okay that is that is a that's not a hockey that's a sink hold on that's a single average you said two admirals at the same time hold on that's just a laser actually like trying to kick them or nothing that's just like a arranged shot i mean it was meant for whitebeard i'd also put it like this is kizaru putting hockey into every single one of those light shots no i don't think so if sanji is fighting marco and kicking him with a frit he's every shot he's hitting is hockey infused he's using armament whenever he uses a frit are you saying sanji is admiral level no but i'm saying that the the argument that the sacred jewel attack is an effective attack to say that marco is this guy when there's no hockey in it's crazy how you'll say that marco is i mean you'll sit up here and say that sanji we're hyping up sanji i mean well we're hyping up marco and you're hyping up sanji which don't have as many feats as exactly like how are you gonna come at us for hyping up somebody who got more feats than us than the person you trying to convince everybody including yourself that he's better than come on bro that ain't making no sense bro marco is not better than sanji he's not there yet brother it just ain't nothing wrong it's he's just not there yet bro it's not the argument of feats um i mean i like i said i every attack that he uses with a frit is hockey based oh no no no everything that's not confirmed here let me read let me read the panel for you a sturdy exoskeleton enhanced strength and super speed i'll make use of them all if i pair the exoskeleton protection with my armament hockey training my leg should be able to stand flames much hotter than before so we can confirm with every use of ifrit john bay that he is using armament no yeah but he's saying that doing i don't have a problem with that even if he uses armament attacks i don't think it would be work as much as like how you said because like uh let's let's take a step back and look at uh luffy versus katakuri every single attack that luffy used was coded with armament hockey to a certain degree but it still couldn't penetrate uh cat because he was turning into mochi i personally hurt his fist bro i have cat i have him losing cat that's no no no i'm not i'm not talking about i'm not talking about where he where he lost i'm talking about like like if if uh if luffy's armament hockey fist was able to punch through cat without harming him was it is it too unfair for me to say like it wouldn't work on marco if uh if uh the if it was really hockey infused i don't think it will work too much because again it's regeneration like is it really like it'll work on it'll definitely work on what i'm the problem is it's not that it won't work out the problem is is he going to be able to produce enough of those and put marco down and that's what i say yes i didn't say yes i saw sanji use seven to ten attacks in like a single manga page to hit queen how many attacks how many those attacks did it take to actually put queen down like all of them like all of them but the last one he used to push him out like are we not are we not are we forgetting that like it took a bunch of them it wasn't like two or three hits and he was down like he had to repeatedly keep on keep kicking this man yeah but that's we ain't got the durability though yeah marco does not he's in he don't have no durability bro come on was literally he has both you guys you guys that is time what is anybody changing their vote i got another group i'm not switching i'm gonna change mine are you going down to he is not getting past marco okay that's great but yeah same here okay he's not he ain't got enough to put him down bro i'm sorry he gets the railing you know where i'm he needs to unlock conquerors hockey he needs to unlock conquerors hockey he needs to unlock conquerors hockey he needs to unlock to be able to put marco down and you need to utilize it okay i don't think the congress does no man utilize is the key word because he can unlock it and be like kid you know what i'm saying don don chinchow you know what i'm saying like it's utilized utilization we know that i'm gonna i'm gonna pull one out of kaido's book hockey above all with marco being you know what i'm saying like it's you like utilization we know that i'm gonna i'm gonna pull one out of kaido's book hockey above all with marco being with no with marco guys one at a time and i gotta wrap i gotta wrap i i get he's got i get he's got hockey i do i don't think he's weak in hockey but he does not use it consistently can i say that sanji does really either no he uses it on a defensive basis that's how marco used like i swear he uses it to defend and to like not go down like he just keeps getting up because he can regenerate with his devil fruit and he can block hockey attacks because he has hockey he doesn't like throw punches with it but he i mean he's got to coat that section can he keep up with sanji's repeated hits absolutely hockey spot i don't think he can all right i think he can i gotta get another group in here i appreciate the takes guys y'all have a good night all right all right hey look forward to the wheel next week man the wheel is coming back on next call listen i won the last wheel the very last one he did he won around i got i got a w man he finally took a dub crazy all right all right y'all have a good night yeah i'm gonna go back to sleep man get some rest bro yeah i wake up for this man i wake up just for this all right oh to hit in toby leave all right yeah yeah they left him they left a minute ago we got a couple more super chats um to read so we got five from tiberius it says sanji is going to get sticky from cat question marks hey yo another tag gifted from agent q thank you agent that'll get a couple more people in here uh and another 20 from villain d juice it says only bring up fans but bring them up hashtag sanji season hashtag the king of cooks uh i think i think he's next up um i gotta twilight you've been keeping track of who's wet and who hasn't because i yes sir all right i'm gonna bring up these three um tiered members mamba kid alcazar and villain and then i need two more that haven't went yet uh i'm gonna go who who does who would i see in there let's get aaron in here and let's get uh cabone in here all right that's five welcome welcome gentlemen i'm assuming you're um as y'all know it's sanji season and it's gonna be a right hand gauntlet for sanji to kind of try to clear round one will be marco the phoenix round two will be katakuri round three will be king the wildfire round four will be old rayleigh and round five will be cool who's on where does he stop or can he clear this gauntlet or does he not get it past anyone let us know y'all each will have one minute to give your take on this matchup and then you'll have a five minute deliberation round where you guys talk amongst yourselves villain i don't know what you're doing but but shut that up oh my fault i'm taking a whole well we can start with villain man what's up oh you're it and thank you for the 20 man appreciate that oh for sure it was dead in the entrance area trying to bring some folks up uh all right so it's round four is really correct yeah all right i have sanji stopping at rayleigh uh i think rayleigh is the insurmountable force at this point in time uh for him to not naturally evolve as a character uh in that fight or to figure out something just based off his general battle like you uh when it comes to the characters that we see before him uh sanji is not a slouch when it comes to his abilities obviously assessed let's say like the first thing we saw him do in the most recent battle is a testament to his character overall being like the observation-leaning individual um but with the overwhelming force that conquerors hockey can inflict on your opponents and rayleigh being the first true conqueror hockey user um because cat doesn't actually infuse anything with intention um i'm saying that that's the one hurdle that he could not surpass in this gauntlet okay appreciate the take villain we will move on to cabone hey um so i got sanji stopping at um uh rayleigh as well i agree with villain um characters uh infusing your conquerors into your attacks ae advanced conquerors and just being able to knock out fodder or two completely different things um i think that's the one hurdle that i think that's the one hurdle that i think to this day arguing that category can use it outside of just knocking out people is ridiculous um uh and arguing that he uses it in his attacks is arguing that he does have advanced conquers which is just factually incorrect so uh to crux of this um argument is that none of these characters have enough power to put down sanji so the sanji durability we can scale it up to the last thing that knocked him out which is emu's kick i don't think these characters below really can have any sort of ap to match that so um if they don't have anything like that eventually sanji will just um overcome them in the fight figure out their weakness categories observation runs out as luffy says so uh making him just weaker in general mar uh king has a gimmick that sanji can overcome uh dumber character like zoro can figure it out sanji can figure it out marco will just stamina issues he'll just lose out eventually and that's where i have mine okay appreciate the take we'll move on to mama kid yo yeah i got um i say he stopped that really too but like i feel like each fight's gonna be really tough like the marco fight could be go um either way as well i just don't think he has enough attack power to put sanji down i feel like it's gonna be a stalemate i feel like sandra out last that cat i just don't think um he isn't as durable as sanji is and um the observations there the conquerors there but i feel like um sanji is pretty quick too like i feel like he's faster than um when luffy was when he was fighting him i feel like sanji like if he catches cat can't put him down king i feel like is the toughest one that can go either way as well i feel like that just depends if sanji can figure out like his flame and when he does figure it out if he can put king down i feel like out of all the characters king has the most attack power to put sanji down but i feel like i'll give sanji the edge extreme diff and i definitely feel like he stops at a ray leon think he gets past that okay appreciate the take uh we'll go to aaron um so i am this is very close for the first three rounds um i i actually think he stops at cat but king should be like round two and catch a b3 but so what i think about marco is um sanji he he has enough strength to actually put any of the first three rounds down but the way he fights isn't isn't something that is like unstoppable like for katakuri um he can morph his body in ways that it's it's difficult it's like he can morph his body in ways that a human body like won't work like he can make his arm a whole loop and he can like make his arm our third arm and then like you know get a punch from that or something like that um for king he i feel like sanji he um he has the speed to take down king king's um his gimmick isn't too tough but like it's it's how it's how they actually be king like if he goes if if the i'm thinking about the choreography of the fight like how can sanji actually speed blitz king he can't he's king king has enough power to because king has a sword so he has enough power to actually damage sanji in ways that i think sanji cannot heal from because the stab wound is different from blunt force um but and like that's the same with marco because marco has talents like his his whole thing is with feet and like except i mean except for katakuri but like you know he can use mochi to make these stuff but the foot like every person here has sharp objects that sanji cannot heal from he can he can put his body back together but there is no way he can heal like actual slash wounds um so i want to say he stops at katakuri because um katakuri is an actual conqueror of her like he can actually use it and therefore he won't actually he won't be able to get put down so easily you can say marco can but katakuri definitely will not get put down as easily as any of the first three so yeah i think yeah because category also has a high mobility like and yeah just he he has high mobility and he's a bad matchup for sanji all of them are because like i don't know how but every match up here is speedsters so it's very hard to think about fights like that okay i think he stops at category yeah appreciate the take aaron uh we'll move on to alcazar yes um so um sanji um obviously has a um extremely high level of um potential and i think we should consider that um we this isn't sanji at his peak we should still factor uh that in so all of the characters on this list he's going to be stronger than eventually but um if we're being reasonable um and i'm considering um where he should stop um i would probably stop him at kuzan um i would want to stop him at katakuri because of the interest site and congress hockey personally leave um battle iq and experience is extremely important and kata curry both has extremely high level of battle like and he has decades of experience so i think that naturally gives him an extremely like logical advantage over sanji but i believe that sanji has enough uh he has a strong enough will to at least push the battle to an outcome that kata curry had um so um i do think that he would get past um kata curry and then rayleigh and then i believe both kata curry and rayleigh would be high diff fights and i think rayleigh would be tougher than most people would expect but i think sanji can get past rayleigh at the very least he would be able to wear him down sanji's endurance is probably his most underappreciated aspect he could probably last longer in my opinion than i'm zero in a fight and that's probably what he will leverage the most against the fighter like um rayleigh rayleigh's not going to last as long as sanji kuzan just put it simply i don't think sanji can perform as well as kuzan did against garp even with the same amount of help i don't think kuzan's performing that or assigned he's performing as well as kuzan so until sanji unlocks his conquerors hockey and learns to use it competently i don't think he could be kuzan so i think he gets there and stops good 00:04:35.640 -- 00:04:45.640 Kuzan: 00:04:45.640 -- 00:04:47.920 Kuzan: 00:04:47.920 -- 00:04:50.640 Kuzan: appreciate the take all right so we had three stops at really and one stops at cat and one stops at kuzan y'all will have five minutes to deliberate amongst y'all selves to see if i can sway anybody's vote so take it away 00:04:50.640 -- 00:05:03.720 Kuzan: 00:05:03.720 -- 00:05:04.920 Kuzan: i just want to quickly say something about um kata kuri's conqueror zaki um it's a it might be an anime thing this is might be where people get their misconception but like 00:05:04.920 -- 00:05:10.920 Kuzan: 00:05:10.920 -- 00:05:12.920 Kuzan: 00:05:12.920 -- 00:05:13.920 Kuzan: guys characters before the rooftop on one oh like specifically luffy and zoro these guys cannot use their conquerors aside from just knocking out fodder characters if the character you're fighting doesn't get knocked out by your conquerors uh specifically by dope flamingo or katakuri it's not doing anything in this fight it's literally useless so it's coming down to his armament and future sight so i don't know why these characters can use it no when i say conquerors it's that this a specific trait of conquerors is that they will not give up on the fight or something like of that matter if i say category because of his conquerors can will push sanji more that's what i mean like it's really a future side future side is very rare 00:05:13.920 -- 00:05:28.920 Kuzan: 00:05:28.920 -- 00:05:30.920 Kuzan: it's very great you're saying you're saying the traits that make category a conqueror are the reasons not the intentional infusion the traits and we literally just found out sanji has the traits of a conqueror and then you know what i'm saying like sev is spitting about this all week but i'm like if you're going to use the fact that category embodies what a conqueror is in battle in moments of high stress and you know high difficulty sanji embodies that in general or else he wouldn't be a candidate for a conqueror's hockey right now but but category actually has it like there's a difference between having it like yeah but he's not using it though 00:05:33.920 -- 00:05:48.920 Kuzan: actually knock other people out what does it do he can't put it into his attacks what does he do with this conqueror like it's not about putting it into his attack no he doesn't because he can express his conqueror's hockey it means that he is at the level where that conqueror's hockey will influence the fight sanji like if there is a uh 10 minute battle or like you know no let's say like luffy and category's battle that was like hours like 11 hours or something eight hours i believe yeah yeah i'm saying during that duration katakuri will continue because of his conqueror's traits will be able to continue maintain the level stronger than sanji can maintain the level but you're you're referencing traits again you're referencing the traits of the character not the utilization of either his conqueror's hockey is with the burst that we know category is capable of or it's not a factor because you can't name his time in the series in which sanji has given up on a fight or not finished what he started unless it's a woman but we know why that's the reason yeah he didn't start the fight though he didn't give up he never started the fight that's you know what i'm saying let's find another way to win look look so one of the reasons why i said he loses to cat is because of that trait but another reason is because luffy and snake man every time his um arms bend they accelerate sanji he has geppo probably he can accelerate but i think that luffy's fist is is an a harder target to dodge than sanji's whole body we can see jack over and we can't see sanji When Katakuri figured out that Luffy was able to accelerate around Katakuri to hit him, then Katakuri just started deforming his body. He never got hit until he tried to hit Luffy, and that's when Luffy would also hit Katakuri. Sanji, I can say he needs to be close, all right? He has to speed up, like, in a straight line, in a jump, all around, like, he's good at 3D vertical, well, 3D mobility. So do you have him at Rayleigh or Katakuri? Me, I have him at Katakuri, losing to Katakuri. Stopping at Katakuri? Yeah. Do you think, like, what do you think he has, like, put Sanji down, or like, yeah? Katakuri. So what I think, because, so, Katakuri. He attacked Luffy when he was transforming, right? Mm-hmm. So he doesn't have to transform. And there's no way you can tell me that Katakuri cannot break Sanji's bones. Can Katakuri break Sanji's bones? Absolutely not. Sanji has regeneration, even if he does. That means Queen can break Sanji's bones and Katakuri can't. Wait, how is Sanji getting around that level of future sight? Hold on, I got a question. I got an answer for that. I got Sanji stronger than a gear for Luffy. No, no. Faster and stronger than a gear for Luffy. Why are we treating future sight like it's this ability you can just spam infinitely? Luffy straight up says it, and Katakuri doesn't deny it. Future sight, just like any other hockey, can run out. It can run out, guys. And it probably just takes too much time. He said that he was, his emotions, he wasn't in control of his emotions. He said that, he told Luffy, he said, you got me riled up. Yeah, his emotions. I'm locked in now. And then they continue to fight. And then after that, Luffy struggled, just like he did in the beginning to hit him. Even in Snake Man, even though he was just hitting him. Because the second Katakuri detected what was going on and stopped being emotional, then he started performing well in a fight. That's why in the end, Luffy was in a hole 18 feet in the ground. Yeah. Yo, yo, that is five. Oh, no, no, please. That's five. We need one more remark, right? Last second remarks. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead, Dylan. I appreciate you. Alcazar, for you to say that Rayleigh could outlast, like, Sanji, it's the damage output that he can do with his mastery of Conqueror's Haki, and, I mean, just Haki in general, that similarly to what Garb showed us against Aokiji, that regardless of your youth and your ability to last in a normal fight, I'm still just that superior to you. So I don't feel like saying that he could outlast him, and just ignore the damage that he could be done to, is a fair argument against Rayleigh. I think that's kind of what Luffy did to Katakuri, so if you've seen it before, sorry. No, you're good. I just want to say one thing. Larry, I find it hilarious that you have Rayleigh above Katakuri, the character that admitted to being Blackfear's inferior. That's all I'm going to say. I didn't make this. Oh, I thought you guys had a consensus. Okay, okay. But do you agree? Is Rayleigh above Katakuri? Wait, you'd have had Kat over Rayleigh? I guess. Definitely. Definitely. Would I have had Kat over Rayleigh? Yeah, in the gun. Only Rayleigh can put down Kat. He's stopping at Rayleigh for sure. He doesn't have to think about it. Kat don't think about it. Really? Really has all advanced forms of Haki. Kat only has Haki. Sometimes he can punch his body back together. Kat's just not durable enough, in my opinion. Exactly. Okay. All right. Yeah. We'll let Larry ponder on that, but I have to get another group in here, y'all. So, appreciate the takes. See y'all in a bit. All right. All right. I don't want to do this. Larry, take a breath, bro. Almost dropped you. Bro, the chat is killing me, bro. Yeah, I see you in there debating with them, man. Bro, they're just so uninformed. Listen, listen. He gets crazy in chat sometimes. It comes down to how you view Buzz Cut Mochi. I will say, I'll feel, I'll acknowledge, I feel I was wrong. I didn't think it was a Conqueror's Infused Attack, but I'll acknowledge that I think it is now. See, that's growth. That's what it's supposed to be, y'all. Yeah. I appreciate that. If you get new information, change your view on things. All right? Yeah, they kept spamming. He didn't use it. And I'm like, if you look at the Kat versus Luffy fight, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Luffy does three types of Culverines. He does the regular Culverine, and then he does the Jet Culverine, and then he does King Cobra, which is the Conqueror's Infused Culverine, which he also adds Armament Hockey to, not Advanced Armament Hockey. So when he does that, that's signifying the King Cobra's Conqueror's, the same way he used it against Doflamingo, where he was using Inbound Man like regular Kongun. And then at the very end, he did King Kongun. It just signifies, like, when Luffy does King something, that's him using Conqueror's. So Doflamingo in return, that's why I say Doflamingo was using Conqueror's, because Katakuri is using Conqueror's in his attack to combat it. You feel me? So he uses it twice. And I didn't even notice that so many people think that Advanced Conqueror's is being used against Doflamingo. It's basically regular Armament, like not even the Advanced version, just regular Armament infused with Conqueror's. They think that's Advanced Conqueror's Hockey. But I'm in chat telling them, like, no, it's the Advanced form of Armament or of Observation. So it's like Future Sight or Rio, plus Conqueror's Hockey. That's what makes it Advanced. You have to have an Advanced version of something. And they're like, nah, yo. People be stubborn, man. That's One Piece fans. Always has been, always will be. But we got nine New Zealand dollars from my boy. It says, sure, goats. Who do y'all think deserves or should be a Conqueror that isn't? I think we've always said that we were under the impression that, like, Nolan and Kalgar were probably Conquerors, whether it was, like, realized or shown to us or not. I think us as a panel. I've always said that. I'm trying to think of anybody else that I've said was a Conqueror. I mean, Sanji was my big one. I'm still torn on Blackbeard. I want him to be. I think he acts in such a way that it'd be tough. I also think you can get more out of the story by making him not a Conqueror, as far as the narrative goes. But he's probably a Conqueror. Jinbei. Yeah. I was about to say Bossman Jinbei. Bossman Jinbei. I've never personally seen it with Jinbei, but maybe I need to re-look at that. What do you mean you've never seen it? Yeah, I was going to say, that Big Mom scene? I've never seen it. Yeah. That was some real Conqueror energy right there. Bro, stood down a Big Mom Conqueror and said, treat or life, bro. And he looked at her and said, yo, how am I going to be afraid of you when I'm going to be serving the King of the Pirates? Facts. Bro, are you crazy? I ain't going to lie. After the recent events, I mean, especially with Sanji being confirmed, I'm saying Brooke even. Brooke? I never saw her with Brooke either. What do you mean? When he was scared? No, I'm saying I never saw, he mentioned Brooke. I'm saying I never saw it with Brooke either. Oh, it was Brooke? Yeah, I said it was recent events. I could see Brooke with how Sanji got it and the way he's getting it. See, I could see Brooke getting it. I'll be honest, bro. He deserve it more than Kid does, bro. Brooke? Oh, 100%. 100%. Yeah, bro. The trauma, bro. Surviving trauma doesn't make you a Conqueror by itself. Does it not? Man's going to be the King of Music. That can be his Conqueror epithet. He already is. He's the King of Music right there. Exactly. Exactly. Hold on, Seb. Let me ask you a real question. Do you think Kid can survive by himself for 50 years on a ship with nobody? Man. Yo, bro. He's probably going to swallow a nail, bro, and just call it a day. See, my him not surviving is more – and this is – it's funny because this is going to be part of the reason why I think – or why I think, Brooke, isn't a Conqueror, or at least ties into it. I don't think any Conqueror would stay on the ship. You get what I mean? Like, they'd be like, yo, I'm getting out of here. Like, I'm going to figure out a way, something. I'm not just going to waste 50 years here, whether I'm dead or not. What you thought Brooke was doing? Yeah, I was going to say, you don't think he tried? Listen, he – Yo, Brooke was trying for 50 years, bro. I think he would have died. I'm saying Brooke would have died – not Brooke. Kid would have died trying to get off the ship harder. Like, it would have been – it would have been goofy or whatever, but he'd have been like, yo, I'm not staying here. I'm – even if i die i don't care i'm not sitting here i'm not wandering this florian triangle area like this you know what that sounds like twilight it sounds like it sounds like kid ain't a conqueror then hold on you hold on larry you you think you think ace would have stayed on the ship like like no no i'm saying no he doesn't have any powers i would say he wouldn't use his ghost-like ability or whatever to be like i'm abandoning my body and i'm gonna leave but you know i'm saying like i'll just float for however long i need to to survive brooke got to the body and went okay i've made it and it's like okay now how do i get out of here instead of even just abandoning his body and trying to continue on living somehow some other way and maybe i'm misunderstanding the situation but i don't i don't envision any of the conquerors that we know just being like dang this kind of sucks hopefully somebody comes to get me one day let's let's just let a dead man uh stay dead you know all right listen you brought him up man i didn't bring him up also that was a pun whether you wanted it to be or not considering you talking about brooke and i know i see what you did there it's a plus two plus two i'll give you that one all right let's let's get another group in here i see a couple more uh tiered members so let's get david yokes and loose dog in here and then let's get another group in here and then let's get another couple people in here um we had jaeger already let's get girthquake in here let's get mellow in here i think xerx he was in there for a while let's get xerx in here and then is that five i think that's five all right uh before we get to you guys guys like the stream if you haven't already it does help with the youtube algorithm and we got another five euros from josie dirts it says if saji can kick hard enough to despate a laser without hockey if he caught marco with it it would rock him bad marco can't dodge everything okay and then another five from creative broccoli saji gets low diffed by rebecca hashtag gawk gawk okay appreciate that one y'all um but what's going on everybody um we have a right-hand man gauntlet ddt you know the vibes you got with diff and y saji is up round one is marco round two is cat round three is king round four is old rayleigh and round five is kuzan can can saji clear it or does he stop at round one let us know where y'all think saji stops or if he clears this gauntlet uh each of you will have one minute to give us your take on how far he gets and then there'll be a five minute deliberation round so starting with davy talk to me man how far do you think saji gets all right his first fight against marco that's a hard fight there i don't know how to place marco i'm gonna say maybe he outbeats marco just with his newfound attempt at using conquerors because he hasn't even tried to use it yet so once he does use it we can't say he's going to be able to utilize it but that might give him the edge over marco but he gets squashed by cat okay cat just has way better utilization future side okay like his his stats are way higher all right appreciate the take davy we'll go to loose loose talk to me man all right all right what's up um i got him stopping at ray league okay and i think all i think round one through three is all extreme diff and at the end of the day what's going to be the deciding factor is the straw hat difference maybe that's too much narrative scaling but that was i think this is a very good ddt and that is all these every answer that everyone's give i think there's an avenue for almost anything and so i'm ready to get into it but that is what i got is straw hat tax fair in a ddt you you i don't know probably i think it's just that tough okay i'll take an understanding i could be convinced i could be convinced okay so you got him stopping that really okay uh next we'll go to xerxe i say he stops at king okay i'll wait for the five minute discussion okay all right next we'll go to girthquake all right um honestly i got him beating marco i know marco is able to uh negate flames however the boost that ephraim john bay gives is you know it's like speed and it's power he gets that and he's using that marco can't take that away until he makes contact with him and since he can just speed with him and hit him with it he can put him down um cat i think it's going to be a good idea to him and hit him with it he can put him down um cat i think if sanja gets caught by cat's um awakening he can burn through the mochi and escape um i think he is fast enough to uh get away from uh to just speed blitz uh katakuri's uh future site and i think he does have the pop to put that down king i i feel like you just need conqueror's hockey to in order to beat him so i think he's going to be a good idea to speed with him and hit him with it he can put him down um cat i think it's going to be a good idea to speed with him and hit him with it he can put him down um cat i think he's going to be a good idea to speed with him and hit him with it he can put him down so until you actually until sanji actually shows it i'm not giving it to him until he's able actually to show his conqueror's hockey so i'm just gonna have him stopping that king then okay appreciate the take and mellow yeah so this one was a little bit tricky for me so just starting off with round one i think he does get past marco just straight off hockey i think marco that's going to be a long battle of attrition like somebody said earlier i think overall sanji's use of hockey will get him by marco just barely i think it's a high dip fight for sanji just because of marco's devil fruit and who how durable marco is round two is where i'm a little bit concerned because i just don't think sanji will get past that future set i mean we know sanji's fast we know luffy's fast luffy couldn't get past that future site without taking the time to literally learn it himself in order to have some level of hockey a future site to be on equal footing with him but while i say that i think current sanji knowing about his conqueror's hockey or that he could still get it i think he could be king if he was to be in a one-on-one fight just barely i think that would be an extreme dip fight and it would take all of his hockey and he would for sure have to bloom but i think he's fast enough to keep up with flame off king and can definitely do some damage when his flames off but i think he would lose to kat curry so for that reason i just have to say he stops at kat okay appreciate the take all right y'all will have five minutes to deliberate amongst yourselves to see if you can sway the voters to your side we had one vote for old man rayleigh two votes for stopping at king and one vote for stopping at kat talk amongst yourselves and uh i'll let y'all know when the time is up i'll go up to king if you'll come down from right wing we are trading like a little pokemon that's great that's so crazy y'all are trading that's wild i'll i'll mute up so okay i guess i guess um since i'm the only one going for ray league i'll start so i guess for me that i from hearing people's things i think the big difference i guess is how much you rate his awakening and like the germa genes like when i saw queen swing the big sword at sanji and it shattered with sanji seemingly wasn't even paying attention he's going through a mental crisis i really rated that moment i was like oh my god sanji's base durability is like crazy and so i don't think he i think katakuri is the scariest one on here personally but and so while i don't think his hockey can compare to katakuri i do think like if his base does and so it's like if they're straight up boxing without hockey i think sanji would whoop him but like if they were not if you know they were both using hockey without like the awakening i think katakuri would whoop him so that's why i think with the awakening and with sanji's hockey where it's at i think it would and like his speed i think there's something there i think there is something there i to be honest i just wanted to say that that no touching is events regular hockey because we've seen roger you we can all say that divine departure is a conqueror's coded attack right so since that's a conqueror's coded attack and he sent odin flying it didn't go through him it was touching him so that was advanced forms conqueror's hockey meanwhile when shanks used it it went through kid it went through killer and it went through the whole shit now that was purposely helped that was also with the help of Dan Pump but I just think people just not understand the difference between the hockey because even Zabek has advanced form of conqueror's hockey and his attacks weren't going through people it wasn't not touching them it was sending them flying but I'm just going to say I'm not going to change my thing I think he does stop that can anybody tell me one conqueror that Sanji's faced before Zoro no that doesn't count Luffy Luffy Zoro that's sort of kind of like I mean he hasn't like faced Zoro but it's like he's the monster trio like I also subscribe to that I do think Zoro is stronger than Sanji but like Sanji is right there like it's I always think there's never been an opponent that Zoro has fought that I thought that if Sanji didn't fight like he would just straight up get super destroyed like it's gonna I think he would obviously put up a fight and Kaido okay saying Zoro fought Kaido is not fair Mr. One I think there's Mr. One how's he cutting through Mr. One that's what I was gonna say it's funny so much you said that that's the one where Sanji would definitely lose I think Sanji would lose to Mr. One but you know that's a long time ago Sanji gets hit by Conker's hockey for real he's gonna feel different that's gonna affect his so that's I think that's a great I think that's a very fair point I definitely think if Sanji gets hit he there's a good chance he just loses but in my mind it's like Sanji's really really fast I think he's faster than Katakuri he's got the shave he's got he's able to move in the air and so I while I do think he also Katakuri does also have future sight and so that is a very you know obvious counter to speed which is why I think it's a very extreme diff and I even threw out that we're gonna maybe even need a little narrative in there because it's just it's gonna be really really hard but at the end of the day if Oda writes somehow Kat and Sanji fighting I just don't see Sanji losing I see Sanji dodging I see him being really fast and that's that's yeah so I agree with most of the things that you said and like I said earlier I do think Sanji could take it to the king and could beat King but I just rate Katakuri a little bit slightly higher than King because of the hockey in the future site so and we saw how Luffy beat Katakuri so and what it took to put Katakuri down with an awakened devil fruit so and I do rate Sanji highly so what would Sanji what attack would Sanji end up doing that's gonna put Katakuri down so I get that's all I want to talk about that when Luffy and Katakuri was fighting Luffy when he when it was fighting Luffy is a stationary target and what I mean by that is when Luffy's doing his punches with his his his his snake man form he was staying in one spot so for Katakuri to keep hitting Luffy it's easier when Luffy stand in one spot and he's just moving his arms hitting somebody who's flying around you like a fly it's a lot harder to hit so for you so to use Luffy and Katakuri's fight versus someone who can maneuver in the air a lot better I don't think that's we're not talking about the speed I'm saying I'm saying Luffy had to use one of his strongest attacks at that time to just to put Katakuri down what attack power could Sanji have to put Katakuri down so I definitely yeah so I see what you're saying and I definitely understand like he needs like we got some output that's that's time one minute once we'll minute for y'all to rebuttal up each other last things I on that point I always have just kind of rated Sanji's strength really high like I think we you know we've been seen in him kill dinosaurs with this kicks and now that he's awakened we seemingly have that power on top of what we've already seen with a lot of power and so I do think his power is has been underrated in the conversation I don't think it's like it's like if Sanji kicks him in the jaw like it's gonna hurt that's kind of my opinion but I think that's fair if you think Sanji's base level attack power can match Katakuri then I definitely see how you get there like I said I think he could be king too so yeah I just think like with Sanji's base power is higher than Katakuri's Katakuri's hockey is better than Sanji's and so with Sanji with the combined I think there is an argument that they're going to clash and it's going to be a good fight so yeah extreme diff and Sanji wins that's me still all right nobody changed their vote it sounds like guys appreciate the take I got to get another group in here so y'all have a good night you too peace all right that was everyone all right let me check we didn't get any new super chat so let's get another group in here let's get El Feo Davey's already still oh dang wrong chat I might have to start having you pull and drop people Twilight struggling here am I I do I guess I do I am able to do that now huh hold on hold on is that five one two three four yeah that's five I bet all right let's talk about it y'all Sanji is running the right-hand man gauntlet in round one he will face Marco around two Katakuri round three King round four old Rayleigh and round five Kuzan he'll have full recovery after each round fair and reasonable speculation is allowed in DDT's as always and y'all each have one minute to give your take on how far you think Sanji gets if he clears or if he can't beat anyone on his gauntlet and then after you guys all go you'll have a five-minute deliberation amongst yourselves so we will start with Elfio Theo talk to me guys I think that if it's the same condo that's like the picture I don't know I think you mentioned like another people but if it's the same I don't think he even starts not gonna lie I don't think that to this point we've seen Sanji capable of beating people in that level on a clean 1v1 I'm not saying he's getting washed but I just think he loses I think after he's killing him fight I'll probably change my opinion but before that I don't think so okay appreciate take we'll move on to a oh it's not in the UK very sad we lost I know this isn't about the thing we lost man it still weighs on my heart right now so I'll give my taking a sad turn he stops at Ray Marco it's an interesting fight but I do think mark there's a bit of a storm much in a punching bag Katakuri we've had this debate multiple times I think Sanji will use his hands which will give him a buff and then also fireburns mochi and also Sanji's faster than his future site can predict and he's only gone faster so that's Katakuri King if Zoro can beat King I think Sanji can beat King I think it'll be an easier fight than the Zoro one because Zoro's whole thing is he has no mobility and King was just able to abuse that but that's not Sanji's issue the issue is just the damage but I think he can figure out the Lunarian thing faster than Zoro and deal with them faster than Zoro and then Ray unfortunately Ray is still that guy he's just he's just under the Admirals I just don't think he could beat Admirals because of his stamina issues and if this was done like in a few weeks when he's got his ACOG buff when Sanji got his ACOG buff I think I'll put him over Ray comfortably but if we're doing this today then I have to put him under Ray sadly and then he's not being Kuzan I don't know what Kuzan's on the list and he's not going to be able to beat him that's my take all right appreciate the take Ayo we will go to Fluffy Hawk hey what's up how's it going I don't think Sanji gets past Marco I think that's disrespectful to Marco in my opinion because we've seen like Sanji can fight yes but also Marco has regenerative capabilities I believe Marco faster than Sanji Marco can fly we've seen Marco take on Yonkos we see Marco take on Admirals he doesn't win sure but if you put Sanji in that situation he wouldn't perform well and yeah that's just and I don't think he gets even close I think he gets low diffed by Kato Kuri but Marco I put honestly yeah I'll give Sanji that respect high diff okay all right appreciate the take Fluffy and thank you again for the big dono the other day appreciate that of course all right uh irk hello how's it going i'm good um okay i'm not gonna lie i think the first two should be reversed but because of that i don't think he starts i think marco beats him i do think he beats katakuri but uh okay so i think in marine ford marco you know at least was capable of fighting like he's oh oops oops i don't know if my thing muted no we can hear you oh now we now we can't hear you dang all right my bad um yeah i do think yo irk lock in bro my thing's being very buggy all right uh in marine ford i do think uh marco was able to keep up with kizaru for a bit at least i do think marco was comparable to kizaru but um in egghead i can't lie i don't don't think sanji was i know people will like upscale the laser feat but um i'm not gonna lie i do think kizaru's like mentally nerfed most of that arc so and when when i think it's a bit like i do think it changes throughout the arc so even if we say that sanji was able to like intercept that kizaru laser afterwards uh when he's carrying vega punk uh and gets kicked i do think like that was basically like a blitz i'm not gonna lie so i don't really think sanji skills to kizaru at all but i do think marco does okay appreciate the take irk we'll move on to to easy to easy to easy yo giri easy you there yo yeah i'm here talk to me so i'm gonna try i'm gonna try my best to keep it short and sweet um and i've heard everyone's thoughts and feelings on the matter and i'm gonna just still go by what i believe um what i believe is that sanji could beat marco because like all we have ever seen from marco is uses hockey like he does have hockey and he mostly used it for defense like against queen and king and akainu when he tried to throw that punch uh i mean yeah he fended off king and queen but that's all he really did was fend off he never really tried to go on the like serious offensive against them and like and sanji he has harder like he he's like a like an all offensive attacker like he has some serious hits when it comes to his kick especially his what blue flame flambe or whatever you call it um i think he can hit harder than marco that's i'm pretty sure that's for sure and if he even though marco does have healing abilities but if he does somehow get past marco he stops at katakuri because like yeah up like for now i guess i'll say that he does go past marco and he stops at katakuri but he does go past marco and he stops at katakuri because he does go past marco and he does go past marco and he stops at katakuri because katakuri does have future sight and katakuri does have like next level of hockey more advanced and utilization when it comes to hockey because like luffy was struggling against him and katakuri was just making sure that he doesn't get to the fourth form and like a flat out luffy shouldn't have won that fight in the first place but that's like on a later day that's a whole nother conversation so there's there's that and um yeah i think that's it like he just stops at katakuri all right yeah we'll have five minutes to deliberate amongst yourselves mostly i agree he doesn't get past marco but we did have uh he gets to rayleigh and uh he stops at katakuri so y'all have five minutes at eight o'clock i'll call time go ahead easy thinking man you're speaking facts mm-hmm luffy should not have beat katakuri i know this is in the conversation right now but luffy should not have beat katakuri thank you no no the plot saved him that's for sure nah nah i think that's a i think that's a silly take to glazed katakuri personally i think we need to leave that in the past how's that silly guys it's fine i know this isn't even the part of the thing but luffy went into heimskip like yc1 level like he was joking around half the time and then when he finally met his match and he finally evolved he was able to tap cat and bass so this whole like i understand he's cool he's shadow he's like the evil luffy but let's leave that in the past okay i wouldn't say he's evil that's taking a little bit too far no i mean i meant in the sense of like he's evil luffy like he's shadow the hedgehog the anti-hero but like luffy beat him basically fair and square and then he nerfed himself for honor that's the only part of his plot oh don't forget luffy also closed his eyes mid-fight he did and he still okay no no no no no wait no no no no i was gonna say something like that did he or did he not i mean did i lie did i lie you're not lying you're not lying he wins every fight because he's the main character that's just not true luffy loses more than most no no no hold on hold on hold on because majority of time like there's been plenty of times where he's been the main character and he's the main character and he's the main there's been plenty of fights where he should have lost but there's been plenty of plots where he just won like against uh kaido hold on hold on and you're saying plot but you're saying plot is how luffy beat cat because i would i'd argue the opposite he completely overpowered can every way no cat speed blitzed him we even in give okay in the in the fight with cat who got more help cat or no cat speed blitzed him we even in give okay in the in the fight with cat or what you said help help help what you said help help help help what you said help help help help oh help okay i'm gonna i'm gonna say that oh help okay i'm gonna i'm gonna say that oh help okay i'm gonna i'm gonna say that kata korey's sister kata korey's sister kata korey's sister is um i was gonna say something devious but is um i was gonna say something devious but is um i was gonna say something devious but she should have stuck her nose out of it she should have stuck her nose out of it she should have stuck her nose out of it like category didn't ask for help he never like category didn't ask for help he never like category didn't ask for help he never asked for help i ain't saying yes i'm just asked for help i ain't saying yes i'm just asked for help i ain't saying yes i'm just saying what what happened is what happened saying what what happened is what happened saying what what happened is what happened is all i'm saying i i know yeah i know is all i'm saying i i know yeah i know is all i'm saying i i know yeah i know um oh man i'm stepping in the outside um oh man i'm stepping in the outside um oh man i'm stepping in the outside yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead yeah go ahead who ran away from category who ran away from category who ran away from category luffy did luffy did luffy did luffy ran away exactly because luffy can't luffy ran away exactly because luffy can't last long against opponents that's his last long against opponents that's his last long against opponents that's his major weakness category can't major weakness category can't major weakness category can't he kept pummeling him into the ground he kept pummeling him into the ground he kept pummeling him into the ground and like like just overwhelming him with and like like just overwhelming him with and like like just overwhelming him with hockey because like he did hurt his own hockey because like he did hurt his own hockey because like he did hurt his own hands even though luffy used a heart uh hands even though luffy used a heart uh hands even though luffy used a heart uh hockey hardening against category that hockey hardening against category that hockey hardening against category that did did did overwhelming that's the right word overwhelming that's the right word overwhelming that's the right word personally but i mean we can look at personally but i mean we can look at personally but i mean we can look at we can pull up the cat chart we can pull up the cat chart we can pull up the cat chart also who said sanji gets past also who said sanji gets past also who said sanji gets past me a few people do it was me me a few people do it was me me a few people do it was me sanji does not get that future site's sanji does not get that future site's sanji does not get that future site's going to be a pain in the butt he has going to be a pain in the butt he has going to be a pain in the butt he has superior hockey category is smarter than superior hockey category is smarter than superior hockey category is smarter than sanji when it comes to fighting in sanji when it comes to fighting in sanji when it comes to fighting in general general general he's faster than if you say and he he's faster than if you say and he he's faster than if you say and he could use this could use this could use this right i think if you just like in the right i think if you just like in the right i think if you just like in the right hands is one of the best right hands is one of the best right hands is one of the best abilities but in abilities but in abilities but in category's hands where we are right category's hands where we are right category's hands where we are right now i don't think it's that crazy now i don't think it's that crazy now i don't think it's that crazy people use it in the sense that it's a people use it in the sense that it's a all seeing eye that just allows you to win which is true but if you're just faster or you can just fight on their level it doesn't really apply much because luffy pre-future side it wasn't like cat immediately shut him down and he couldn't do anything luffy was still able to interact with him and still fight him it was just difficult sanji is the speedster that's his job like we saw we saw what cat i know people don't use like to use a jelly bean because it's not an actual category attack but the jelly bean showed that sanji speed like category couldn't do anything about it and then we've seen other situations where even with future sight category has just gone i can't do anything and like we can't just go oh he was only omnipotent against luffy but in other situations he says he can't do anything and we're just supposed to go yeah but he has future sight so he wins as if harky it's a shanks first one is just sanji is getting the situation we can't we can't say we can't i hate this we can't use shanks as the bar no i'm saying i'm saying it's like that fight how basically it got destroyed he's getting destroyed in the fight it was immobilized and couldn't move and shanks had 10 seconds future sight cat doesn't have that yes like i think cat has three seconds and sanji doesn't have like that seconds of future site sanji's not with the conch hold on hold on you're saying that you're saying that cat would one shot sanji okay my bad i didn't mean it like something i didn't mean it like that but i think he two shots or three shots in 100 it takes more than that since his genes decided you started to kick in sanji's name to put that man down 100 categories send this guy the cat chart man put it this way luffy took how many attacks from category i'm playing with the catch up he like um more than sanji in a way that was poor i keep this is poor you get i've got the catch up luffy was category 13 times excluding black mamba katakuri hit luffy 123 times and he wasn't able to put him down now sanji is more durable and has better endurance than luffy on whole cake island do we think sanji beats luffy on whole cake island yes yes 100 000 yeah no not 100 no what yeah he's got better hockey than sanji in that moment gear for snake man is able to i think outspeed sanji in that i disagree i disagree on hockey as well i think luffy has basic hockey at that point he doesn't have any advanced forms except from future site but we gotta put more respect on gear for snake man and gear for bounce man we gotta put some more respect on it i think there's too much respect because he's luffy like on the stream yesterday when it was being brought up that bound man luffy was beating like i think it was kid this was either this stream or last week and it's like oh yeah because of hockey as if hockey is just it's a different conversation in itself but hockey doesn't just bring you the win in itself right like because because one person has better hockey than another doesn't mean they just they just win but it's the way they utilize that hockey and the way that um katakuri was able to utilize utilize not just his hockey but his uh devil fruit awakening as well because like the way he was flexing his body just to get away from snake man even though i don't know why he let him guys just do snake man that's five minutes i gave you a little extra time because i cut in a little bit there so that's my bad um but that's that is time um does anybody want to switch their vote no can i switch my diff on marco sure i i think it's a mid to low diff low to mid oh goodness okay sanji's not that smart of a fighter for all being honest here oh no interesting interesting take all right appreciate y'all y'all have a good night the other man appreciate the man england england 20 value man excellent we're winning four years keep up with the work god bless you thank you thank you you all right all right all right yeah i was gonna say it's seeming like don't wait no more people we got we got a couple more this will probably be the last round because i yeah i would say there's there's only five left yeah i'll get everybody who hasn't gone in yet so i think it's what you want me to on miracle kobe joy boy joy boy hasn't pulled in for it is that what's happening yeah you're you're all in man completely raw no protection oh i don't know i don't want to be in a live stream i don't want to be in no live stream then get out of here man bye that's the first i mean i get it i think we got another one though so reaper taking his place all right y'all yeah will be the last round sanji is running pleasure it's a pleasure yeah sanji is running the right hand man gauntlet round one is marco round two is katakuri round three is king round four is old man rayleigh and round five is kuzan he'll have full recovery after each round and you guys will each have one minute to give your take on how far sanji gets does he clear can he beat anybody on the gauntlet let us know where you think he stops and you will have a five minute deliberation once you guys all go so take it away i'll start with reaper um i've been saying in chat that i feel like sanji will get to rayleigh and stop but honestly i'm gonna get up here and i'm gonna tape for my boy a little bit i'm gonna say he clears clears we can talk about it yes first clear of the day i feel yeah i'm gonna say for marco marco definitely has the endurance has the durability but he doesn't have the punch that i feel like sanji has and it will last a while because sanji also is durable and has endurance from what we've seen none of the fights last too long because it's a freaking show they got to move on but from what we see he can last as long as he needs to from a fight doesn't get gas like luffy does um so he might be able to push through that and knock him out yeah he puts he has a punch same thing with with uh katakuri loki uh he's like oh well he's a conqueror he infuses the congress who has attacks yes i feel like sandy's speed outclasses most of category's attacks he is faster than a gear for luffy in my opinion and his punch including with his speed not even including his hockey um right now i'm not going to go into that yet but i feel like that'll get him past category you guys can call me crazy let me finish i'm moving on uh king he beats king he's relative to zoro there will be king boom okay really rayleigh's old i'm gonna say that he's he's gonna have a struggle with really because really it's a he's a very experienced conqueror he's got all the knowledge that he needs to be a top tier still even currently in his old age but he is old and he could not take down blackbeard he said out of his own mouth he would lose that fight i think that uh son of he would give blackbeard currently everyone for his money so i feel like he would be oh man maybe whoa but okay all right and kuzan he's ice i feel like with the with the flame with the hockey he could knock down kuzan's arm and leg and then he's fighting a one-armed one-leg person and he could beat him boom go on next person all right appreciate the taker i'm not changing my mind either so five minutes gonna go away so y'all talking to me oh my god i'll go to a miracle mail talk to me bro we had this in the ddt like a couple couple months ago or a couple ddts ago he is not making it past marco my boy is relative in speed sanji probably has him in power but the endurance the recovery marco's got that above him like i don't know he's he's definitely got it above him he's a mythical zoan he's got like regeneration and like a logia type like can just bring his body back kinda so there's like i just i don't see how sanji goes ahead and just like one taps him you know what i mean because if it's not a one tap he ain't he ain't really lasting in that fight we said about before that it was probably going to be endurance but marco's got that and when i was saying the speed thing like wherever marco was to fly to lano as soon as he did that he was in the action he was fighting and he took on king and queen at a stalemate so that zoro and sanji could get their time to shine and become like a part of the emperor's crew i just i don't see how sanji wins that fight i just i don't i don't think he's making it past round one okay and i know your brother's gonna hate that but your brother got hate that's that's wrong i need i need to get lawrence in these ddts man i gotta get him in here but i appreciate the take man uh we will go to kobe is over x-ray it's over call me you can call me guard you can call me corn bro you can call me what's the word what's the name what's the name you can call me corn this is just a nickname it's it's a whole gimmick this is a nickname it's a long nickname yeah yeah bro it's just a whole it's a whole gimmick but let me explain where i got uh my boy sanji yet and basically i say he stops at rayleigh like honestly you know rayleigh's the gatekeeper he's the goal there's a reason he's at sabaody bro there's a reason he's at sabaody you know marco marco says here comes the stars that just means like he knows that sanji's like that it's always going to become like that you know what i'm saying and i'm a believer of zoro equals i'm a firm believer of that so you know i think with kata curry luffy b curry at the end of the day and then that luffy you know that that luffy is weaker than sanji in my opinion my personal opinion he's weaker than somebody because then luffy gets stronger in the heart and then with king i think well since like like judgment said since zoro be king i believe in zoro's equal to i think zoro's equal to sanji sanji will be king it's not that crazy and then he just stops at rayleigh like you know like sanji couldn't do anything to kizaru kizaru relative to rayleigh rayleigh's is gonna stop him bro he's gonna be like you're just like the bond you ain't like that bro you know and put him down pack him up pack his ass up anyways on to the next person okay appreciate the take we'll move on to le corb yo what's going on uh so sanji like comfortably clear okay first off i'm gonna assume this is like a wanner marker be higher on the gauntlet um so he sanji clears up to rayleigh like comfortably i think he beats rayleigh i think he gets his ass beat by kuzan really badly um like with marker uh we see marker is like perceived by base queen queen then Sanji without using Ifrit can like perception blitz hybrid queen so he just like massively blitzes Wano and Mako uh king and cat are both like massively weaker than Zoro or Egghead oh sorry not Egghead uh W side Luffy who just gets gapped by Sanji by like end of Wano uh Rayleigh is relative to Kizaru same with Mako uh as I said Sanji can like gap Mako to a degree he's above Egghead gear four to probably a greater extent than Kizaru and Rayleigh has stamina issues uh and then Kuzan would like beat all five of them in a 5v1 so that's like a really big gap oh five yeah yeah Kuzan like even Rayleigh I also think that Sanji would beat the first three in a 3v1 that's insane there's like gaps oh my god there's big gaps in this gauntlet like this is not like a steady climb I love to hear it man I love to hear it oh my god I can we can rip that in when the five minutes comes we can 3v1 bro that's the realest thing I've heard that's absolutely insane yeah Marine Ford Mako versus Sanji is like contentious by itself I still have Sanji winning but it's contentious but like Wano Mako bro brother brother that's an easy 3v1 brother 3v1 bro brother 3v1 Sanji's being cat king and Marco same time yeah it's not crazy to say it's not crazy it's not crazy to say at all yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the reason why Sanji fans have a bad rap man this is crazy this is insane like oh I think we got like one or two more people they can run them in it but when we get to the five oh man I appreciate the take man oh man I appreciate the take man oh man I appreciate the take man I appreciate the take um Wanda talk to me man yeah you're a little low though is this better yeah it's better so uh I'm one of the biggest Sanji fans that that last take was crazy I'm not gonna lie but um I'm sad to say realistically I can't put them like I can't put them like I'm not gonna lie but um I'm sad to say realistically I can't put them like I'm not gonna lie but um I'm sad to say realistically I can't put them like beaten Rayleigh unfortunately all these matchups are extreme dips for Sanji maybe not Marco but every other one is extreme difference on um him being king it's it's tough to say um I think the only reason that he put off his flames is because he says those conquerors hockey uh I believe you can cut through the flames of Congress hockey like boxing go Roger you can't tell me they can't cut the game they're not he's not sitting there from Sanji so it's hard to say he beats him but I'm just gonna give it to him just because I like Sanji but he's definitely not beating Rayleigh in Kuzan okay um you said he stops at Old Ray yeah I'm trying to remember if I've marked yours already one two three four and you're the fifth all right so that's two for Old Ray all right all right y'all have five minutes to deliberate at 8 20 I'm calling it oh actually hold on hold on actually hold on hold on hold on I forgot I forgot Javers is in here and he didn't give his take earlier so Javers go ahead you got a minute I'll give you I'll give you two because you're a mod and you're the first mod if y'all don't know educate yourselves do you think OG OG by the way I want to say he was wild that take that was absolutely ridiculous bro I was gassing it but um yeah so keep it short and simple I got I got him stopping at Rayleigh I think he beats Marco I think I got Marco relative to King like you know they're on like a similarish level and I think by the time we get to Egghead specifically like when we see that like Ifrit Hell's Memory I think that puts Sanji on slight tier like a half tier above so I think that puts him above both of them and I think that's it I think that's it I think that's it I think people overstate like all right yeah Marco was holding him down King and Queen but eventually that became a one-on-one like Queen was getting was preoccupied with like a bunch of different characters before he Marco got knocked out by King uh Aspen Katakuri non-issue never been a real issue non-issues wild but go ahead go ahead man so crazy and then it's so disrespectful I would I would have put that to be fair I would have put Katakuri first then Marco okay but you know uh but yeah Rayleigh I think once Sanji lost Conker's hockey then we could put him over really like I don't I don't have Sanji above old Gabon so I can't put him above old Rayleigh either and I think Kuzan is pretty self-explanatory uh like somebody else said Rayleigh and uh Kizaru were kind of relative on Sabori and I got Kuzan over Aokiji I mean no Kuzan over Kizaru so yeah that's that okay all right we got three votes for old Rayleigh one vote for stopping at Kuzan one vote for clearing and one vote for not starting so y'all y'all have five minutes I'll give y'all until 8 25. talk to me this is absolute I want to who said that he wasn't starting again who said he was jumped the miracle guy bro everyone I want to I want to have this I want to have this one-on-one talk with you you know so I think again like I was saying in my little brief dissertation I think Marco gets a little overrated in Wano for holding down King and Queen like yes he was healing the live floor yes he did hold them off both very briefly but after that chapter it becomes a one -on-one with King for like the rest of the time he's busy with uh fighting Queen's best round with Chopper for a good bit then Sanji gets involved and at no point do I think Queen has an opportunity to go off and jump Marco with King while fighting Sanji so all right yeah so where was Marco he was he was with a white beard son Weevil that's where he started from and then flew all the way to Wano and then went ahead and just got busy he was kicking big mom off the boat that's his first dub and then like goes through all of this stuff with helping Chopper out he still has all the Flames on everybody and then then he's duking it out with King and Queen let's go back to uh Marine Ford when Kizar was like oh I don't have enough time to deal with you right now and then just pushes him to the side and says I'm not I'm not dealing with that and then just ducks the fade with Marco like what what is what is this Marco eight like Marco is really about that if you're if you're putting all those positions with Sanji Sanji's not doing any of those things like the endurance with Marco is so much above Sanji and like people will say like oh like the 10-day fight between Kuzan and uh Akainu is like a big feat but like don't give that same credit to Marco I know it wasn't 10 days but that flight and in the time that it was had or in the time that it was had um like he still got there super fast and then from the moment he got there he was about action the man did not stop and then he's on relative and then he's on relative scale with uh Kizaru to be like I'm I don't have enough time to fight you so I'm not even gonna like try so he's got to be a little bit maybe below Admiral of of Kizaru like wait where do you think Garp is at I think Garp is that old Garp I think Garp is a top tier okay where he's in the atmosphere all right I would say he's above I would say he's above okay okay it tracks it tracks because Garp old guard Blitz is uh Marco so and he's still got up and then he's still fought the AP to put down Sanji that was my question the AP is the only the only argument that I would give to y'all because I don't think that it's I don't think Marco is as strong as Sanji but I think he like he's not weak by any means you know what I mean but like on everything that he was doing in Wano and then still fighting like if you take all of that away and you get a fresh Marco like what is Sanji doing he's got properties of a Logia he is a mythical Zoan fruit the endurance or the durability is there just off of the mythical zone on top of a healing factor that he has. All right, hold on. So I feel like you're discrediting a lot of Sanji's endurance feats and Wano also, while he asked about Marco's. Because for one, Sanji also held off King and Queen a little bit in the two-on-one. It wasn't as impressive, but he did do that very briefly. Before he started fighting Queen, he got beat on by Black Maria. And whatever you want to say about that as a character moment, he let himself get beat on for a considerable amount of time. Took that beating, jumped into the fight with Queen. It turned into a two-on-one versus him with King and Queen because Marco got knocked out and King was able to come on over and put the beats on him for a little bit. And then he jumped back. Was it a jumper though? They jumped. I mean, it's implied in the manga that we see the two-on-one of Sanji and Queen. And however you feel about anime canon, but we see in the anime, King does fly over mid-fight as Marco's out. So like, you know, Sanji, again, this is a Wano Sanji we're talking about, pre-upgrade. Like, that's all pre-exoskeleton Ifrit Janbe Sanji endurance right there, right? So now we're two arcs removed from that, right? In Egghead, we see he can combine Ifrit Janbe with Hell's Memory. He can do it without flipping the eyebrow on, meaning his, like, his base hockey is as strong as his hockey and exoskeleton mixed together in Wano just naturally now. So I feel like we've seen enough post-Wano. Like, if this was a Wano Sanji versus Wano Marco argument, I wouldn't, I'd give Wano Marco. But I just think, I think he got power-clipped a little bit. Like I'm saying, like a half tier above. I just, I don't know, I don't know if it matters. I don't know if it matters even if he's in the LBAP. Like, like I'm talking to LBAP Sanji against Marco. I just, I don't think that it matters. I mean, I think that he has the capability to go ahead and have like crazy attack power. But Marco is still a mythical Zoan and he has properties of a Logia. So he still has that, like, some way trickery hit him. You know what I mean? Like, even if he hits the flames, he's not hitting the body, you know? And it doesn't matter if he has the hockey. He can still move his body within the flames. So it's like, you know what I mean? Sir. Does anybody right here think that Sanji is close to. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead, do your thing. Okay, so Marco is not a Logia, right? Get that out the way, right? He has like. He has properties of a Logia. He can still get grabbed. Big Mom grabbed him. He's already shot him with the lasers. The lasers, like, pierced him and he just healed. That's not him being a Logia. That's just him healing. I mean, both passing through his wings. Let him cook. Let him cook. Let him cook. Like, either he healed or sure, if you want to say it's like Logia-like, that doesn't matter because Sanji has hockey. Logias aren't, like, a relevant thing anymore. Marco is not faster than Sanji. He's, like, probably a lot slower, or at least in Wano. Again, if this is, like, relative to Kizaru Marco, I still don't even. I don't even think that's enough to get him over Sanji, but, like, if you think that Marco is, like, on the same speed tier as Kizaru, that doesn't. Like, that alone does not put him above Sanji. He doesn't take, like, Jura or Endurance, right? You're talking about Marco's regen. Sanji has the same thing, if not better. Marco has literally no way of damaging Sanji, even with Shockwaves, because Internal Destruction doesn't work on Sanji either. We saw with, like, Fishman Karate and that he can just heal his. his internals. Like, Sanji. Like, there is no way, if the fight takes, like, 10 hours, where, you know, neither of them can damage each other, it's just Marco constantly healing and Sanji taking no damage, then, sure, it takes that long. But there is never an instance where Marco puts Sanji down. He's just not capable of it. And then, one last point. I think Kizaru. Ever bringing up Marco versus Kizaru, I don't think Marco versus Kizaru is as impressive as Sanji destroying Kizaru's Light Beam. Like, he's always never seen that before. That one kick wipes Marco's AP. That's true. That's true. I don't think that's true either. I mean. I think. I think we can all agree he stops at Rayleigh, though. I mean, you know, Judgment, he said earlier, like. He said earlier he's doing this for the giggles, right? Oh, he clears. But earlier he said he was repping Rayleigh. That's basically four votes. Yeah. I've been listening to you guys, and I really feel like he could get past Rayleigh. Is anybody changing their vote? Hell no. Let me. Because if you guys feel like Rayleigh. You guys feel like Rayleigh can beat Blackbeard? No. Nah. I mean, he said. He told us that himself, man. Thank you. And whether you guys think that Sanji is Blackbeard, like, can beat Blackbeard, he is of that nature. He is of that ilk. People say that Blackbeard is not a Yonko level. He is YC2. Sanji is a YC2. Who says that? Who's saying this? Who says that? The community. I can't even get a name. The community says this. They have no realization. Oh, even Larry has said this. Yo, let Larry be trolling, man. You cannot trust Larry. I don't even troll. I don't even troll. Whether you guys believe it or not, Sanji is. That's all you need to do. Yeah, you know what? You know what? Even if Larry believes that, that's not the standard take of the community, bro. No, it's not. It's not. Even if you hear what I said now, I said that there are people who say this, and Larry is one of them. I didn't say that. It's just the overall consensus of the community. Yeah, but that. I've never heard that take. But you're saying. Hold on. You're saying. You're saying. Like, it's intellectual dishonesty, and you're basing your argument on one guy's intellectual dishonesty. Well, that one guy was here, and I was making. I was arguing with him in the chat. He was here. Oh, my God. Somebody got a fact check. My point to him was that. No, Larry definitely said it. No, Larry said it. Yeah. And stood on it on multiple occasions. Yeah. Word? Yeah. But Larry. And then switched up and said that Sanji would not get to Rayleigh in this fight. Said that Sanji would beat Blackbeard. Rayleigh said that he would lose to Blackbeard. Hold on. And also Larry said that Sanji wouldn't get to Blackbeard. Hold on. And you got to understand, if we replace Sanji and Blackbeard in this DDT, Larry would say he stops at round two. Why would he say that? Yeah. No, I feel like Larry's already before that category is better than Blackbeard. Bro, what are these tapes? He would convince you to change the order, though. Bro, this is your average kid hater? That's all I'm hearing. So is anybody changing their vote? No, we're 10 toes down. Oh, no. Nah, bro, Rayleigh, bro. What's up, Marco? I'm not Rayleigh. Yo, Rayleigh got a majority. That's all I'm saying, bro. Even Josh Pencil thinks it. I know he said it or he admitted it. Appreciate y'all. I'm going to drop y'all and then I'm going to give my take and close out. I'll never stand by that. Y'all have a good night. Marco's stronger. Hey, Marco's stronger. Marco's stronger. Oh, man, bro. That is diabolical, dog. That was a day, man. i i don't know what to do with that one man i'm so happy seeing that list bro that list was the list was somehow worse than the 3v1 i know it had big mom at yc1 level or lower low-key there are people out there who think that category could be big mom i don't know why i genuinely believe that if big mom for her entire crew at the same time she would win yeah do i believe that i think so could they i mean it's a lot could they find could they find a way to ring her out or something like maybe probably you know what they wouldn't be able to knock her out is my point are the younger kids a part of the crew like are they official members are you saying that there's gonna be like oh i can't hit these kids situation yeah if it's hung if it's hunger paying big mom though she might just kill them all she might she might grab a few and just eat them all right well that was that was something man i i don't we dig in another 18 months at nakama status from king peasant it says ivankov hard diffs all five sanji extreme diffs kuzan okay i mean that was a couple that he gets to kuzan's there was one that he clears and it wasn't diverse so you know i couldn't be that dishonest well i can and i will so all right um i'll give my take i i set this up so that legitimately i do believe there was legitimate arguments that sanji could lose in every single one of these rounds and that he could win in every single one of these rounds okay so i'm not shocked i'm not entirely shocked at what we got here um obviously this was a really at an interesting time i wanted to do this now before sanji got his next power up in elbaf and i think we kind of put all of these debates well at least at least four of them what yeah i'll say at least four of them to bed um but yeah in terms of how i think the fight goes round one marco sanji versus marco i think it would be an extremely like aerial and fast fight you know where they're like in the air they both can fly both highly mobile both you know pretty difficult to put down with their durability regeneration for sanji overall um like phoenix um regeneration for for marco marco's greatest advantage is not like really raw offensive power it's his ability to take repeated damage with his blue flames and resurrect from it um he regenerated normally from devastating attacks um that you know he was able to temporarily hold off king and queen he was able to clash with people like big mom and kizaru um but i do think he lacks hockey showings in the way that we kind of look at some of the more top tier people i am a marco guy i think he gets underrated by the community pretty heavily i probably would have had him higher in the ddt um but i feel like most people have like the kings and the cats over him and i wanted to go with the consensus rating um sanji on the other hand you know he now possesses great burst speed period close range striking ability the exoskeleton to recover and actually accelerated recovery um yeah one of y'all mute i don't know which one of y'all is coming in his background but um his ifrit job a you know high level heat and attack power and really good observation hockey so sanji's moved quick enough to like effectively invisibly blitz queen overwhelm him with his ifrit com combo um he was able to kick that kizaru laser uh he you know was able to attack nisturo and make him bleed for a second there as far as how the fight plays out i think marco would like frustrate sanji a bit sanjo land some clean kicks but marco will repeatedly generate regenerate from them um but over time sanji's gonna start to struggle and to struggle to put sanji down while sanji in fights has shown that he gets stronger over time he's going to start to put sanji down while in fights has shown that he gets stronger over time with his kicks attack power if for john bays hockey etc and if he does get to land like extreme effort john bay attacks um i think it'll eventually be enough to put marco down if it isn't i think this may be unfair but that you can allow for fair and reasonable speculation in ddts that's when the awakening would would happen for his conquerors hockey and it would be enough to put uh marco down in that light i think he can put marco down without it i think if he has it he definitely clears marco um marco's win condition is kind of dragging the fight for a battle of attrition over time but if if he is starting to use a cock infused effort john bay attacks at marco i don't think the fight lasts much longer than that granted i do believe marco does have the advantage over the flame portion of the effort john bay but the hockey portion is going to be enough in my opinion to hurt marco significantly uh for kata curry we've had this debate a dozen times um in my opinion you know cat gets a little overrated in this community people call me a cat hater i think i rank him accurately uh we'll see how y'all view that um but i generally have just always thought sanji's a bad opponent for cat um i've always looked at future sight as a really interesting ability as a whole but speed was always going to be the x factor and how you overcome it and sanji is a speed demon to me he's faster than snake man luffy and similar to what other people have mentioned the way he fights is different than snake man luffy right luffy punches from basically mid-range and he uses his hands to or arms to bounce off different areas sanji moves his entire body into different areas and attacks from close range um also i think only ao brought it up which i was shocked by matchups also make fights when your people are relative like this in my opinion all the first commanders that are on this ranking oh the first three anyway are relative and to me like sanji one knows mochi he knows that you can burn mochi he uses flames that are hotter than any flames that katakuri utilizes himself he can burn mochi himself i don't think the sanji can use his hands dynamic matters because i don't think he's adept enough as a fighter and i'm not just giving him cooking knives or whatever in this but the flame element the element the fact that he knows you can burn mochi at high temperatures tells me that sanji's going to have the advantage in this fight katakuri can fight for a long time his awakening could be a problem for sanji to deal with but i don't think it's enough i saw queen crush um katakur crush sanji's bones and he was able to snap back buzz cut mochi larry was able to reveal to me that does or leaks out conqueror's hockey once it's utilized is that enough to put sanji down i think we brought up the cat chart i know we use it to troll but there is there is data on there cat landed a lot of hits on on luffy and he was not able to knock him out until the very very like end of that fight um i don't know how do i say this i don't think cat could survive the amount of damage output that sanji's capable of doing with ifrit jambe in short bursts um i do still think it's going to be an extreme diff fight it might be it might be more high than extreme but i'll give cat some some grace and say it's extreme i also thought the marco fight would be extreme at least high moving on to king um with king it's interesting because there's an argument to be made that oh he can't sanji can't hurt him unless he's using advanced conqueror's hockey i don't believe in that argument personally king isn't an intelligent fighter in my opinion um because if his ability works the way that people say it works the flame should never be off it should be on at all times even if you get the advantage in speed which he wouldn't have in a fight with sanji i think ayo and other people mentioned it the dynamic of the fight is just different in zoro's case he's a little lacking in mobility he has stronger attack power than sanji sanji can fight king in the air um and he can figure out the flame on ability in my opinion quicker than zoro did and in my opinion if sa is king ever takes the flame off he's at a complete disadvantage then every single piece of sanji's kit is now effective towards him we've seen sanji go up against a lunarian dna person in that shark and he didn't have any real struggles with that um if you don't watch the anime anyway um but yeah me personally i think the way king fights it's not going to be enough to put sanji down he does have some interesting um attacks aerially and from range especially imperial flame dragon um can sanji kick through that i think blue flames are hotter than any of the flames that i've seen king produce and again if he uses the flame off and sanji is able to tag him consistently it's it's ggs in my opinion um old rayleigh this is where we're gonna need some hockey buffs um and the way ddts work at least the way gauntlets work you're fighting these people after you fought the next person then you fight the next person etc etc so this might be unfair but sanji should be getting a hockey blue if he's fighting marco then katakuri then king so i'm gonna give him that little buff versus rayleigh and rayleigh already talked about his fight with uh whether he would win a fight versus blackbeard i think that's the case for most high level top tier fighters um for rayleigh i'm not saying sanji is that exactly but if you can really fight for a while or whip out really really high level attacks like really not trying to fight you right now like he wasn't really trying to fight kizaru he definitely wasn't really trying to fight blackbeard and i do think there's a significant stamina disadvantage that he would be at yes his ap is elite elite and he can probably put sanji down but i'm a cape for my boy man y'all said i was voted one of the most biased people of all time apparently just just an episode of top to go and i'm sticking with that yeah yeah i'm proving y'all right i'm giving sanji the dub man rayleigh old that boy in the past you know what i'm saying give me that uh extreme diff and then kuzan i was racking my brain how i could lie to myself and say that sanji wins this fight but then ayo and other people reminded me kuzan missing a leg man and i've already seen i've already seen kuzan go up against much weaker flames to a draw with ace much weaker flames we got significantly more hockey attached to these effort john bay attacks and now we got conquerors hockey attached to these effort john bay attacks man all right so i'm all right i can't do it i can't even do it i can't yeah so i i i was about to i was about to say didn't uh are we talking about the same kuzan that went 10 days with a kind of yeah bro you went 10 days with a kind of man let's chill out um i'm gonna i'm gonna go yeah i tried man i was racking my brain on how i could make it happen i'm gonna go kuzan i'm i'm probably i'm gonna go mid-dif bro i'll be real with you i'm gonna be real this admiral man that's an admiral and it's not just an admiral it's kuzan for the kind of for 10 days he's fighting garp in the pocket but i do think matchup wise sanji can present some problems with him after elbaf we'll see we'll see how how close he can get we'll see how close he can get but i'm still giving kuz on the edge um put the cook in the freezer after that one but i'm giving him i'm giving all that man i'm giving him i'm giving him i'm giving him the stop at kuzan whether y'all like it or not but this was interesting i i thought i really was curious how it would go um i'll have to take a screenshot of this it's all over the place man we got what is this one two eight we got nine doesn't start the gauntlets and we got one two three four five plus six 11 gets the old man rayleigh and stops and we got one clear so i don't know i don't know how that average is out maybe that averages out to king or something i don't know but yeah this was fun it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch and i hope y'all had fun um i'll probably have to put sanji in a in another ddt gauntlet like this or similar uh once he unlocks his stuff but i hope y'all had fun um i'll probably have to put sanji in a in another ddt gauntlet like this or similar uh once he unlocks his stuff but i hope y'all had fun um i'll probably have to put sanji in a in another ddt gauntlet like this or similar uh once he unlocks his stuff i hope y'all had fun um i'll probably have to put sanji in a in another ddt gauntlet like this or similar uh once he unlocks his stuff and we'll see how it goes from there but traverse twilight y'all have any words for the people before we close out uh yeah one last thing back to what you said about the buzz cut mochi and you know how like that we bring up the chart all the time about how many times category hit loopy if sanji can take a conquerors infused kick from emu yeah get back up and start fighting killing ham yeah what makes you think buzz cut mochi's gonna do anything it'll do something it's just not doing what they was acting like it was gonna do you know what i'm saying man it'll do something that is not like a finishing move anymore we done with the 90s with the 90s man oh man yeah all i gotta say is thank you everyone for the super chats and showing up oh yeah everyone i hope everyone had a had a great time banger dgt as always thank you seb if y'all haven't like the stream and if y'all haven't like the stream and if y'all haven't like the stream and if y'all haven't liked the stream yeah i like that stream man you know y'all know y'all having fun y'all know y'all enjoying y'all day run the likes up um we will be back ddt will be on break next week but the calling stream's coming back next week and we're trying to try our best to get survivor on for next wednesday i'm not i'm running the streams up on y'all three streams this week larry probably i don't know if he's gonna react to something later this week but but topt's coming live at your front door man we're trying to be trying to stream more and no purple popcorn i did not get fired from my job okay i'm still working if this stream hits five likes i'll appear on every single stream this week you say five likes five likes that's not a lot of likes sir we already we're already long past that bro we had a hundred 150 likes right now i guess y'all will see me in the next three streams diverse forgot you know what back back when we used to do ddts with traverse you know consistently we was getting just five likes back in the day man see it makes me regret never show it because back then i was i was also when i was working a lot more during the week my other job but i was never i never popped up to the og ddts so my first experience wasn't until you brought him back after the like two three years yeah we actually we did get another five dollar super chat from kayf kafka i don't know your name it says didn't saturn simply stare at your boy sanji like a good boy sanji was stuck in place and saturn could have had his way with him if he wanted hey yo i don't matter no more yeah we passed that we passed that we know yeah are you bringing up why are you bringing up why are you bringing up all those things yeah that whole stuff man don't he kicked nasa drew like 10 chapters after that we passed that i missed he could have had his way man in our twilight man i was i've been the tick tock live days before the discord existed i don't even know i wasn't even around for that for real for real larry was doing all that that was a straight larry straight i was i was i didn't show up till i think uh mayor like april of 2020 2022. i got to see larry become the resident villain of the one piece community in real time we still not invited to reveries man hey ain't they got one this week yeah i think so this weekend i've never watched one so i i don't know we gonna hold we gonna hold our own reverie this weekend hosted by me no you're not i'll just i'll pick the live stream up yeah why are you lying why are you lying i'll do it yeah i hope so why are you lying to people man i'll get everybody on there man he trying to drop same day as kanye man what you doing man you'll see i got a rap i got listen i don't know if y'all see but all my clothes my wardrobe fell earlier today completely collapsed all over my bed so all of my clothes is sprayed out on my couch right here it's crazy um so i gotta handle that and i probably i should probably call my girl too so i gotta wrap i hope y'all have a good night um stay blessed love everybody love everybody and it's still sanji season except for la corbe he he excluded from sanji season man he excluded well peace out y'all jenna