Sandra Bullock

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Out this week, it is great. Check it out. She is incredible. We are lucky to have her. And we always do this at the beginning of our episodes. We talk well behind our guests back and we find somebody who knows our guests and wants to give me a question to ask them. So we are joined today by two of her co-stars from Practical Magic who play her daughters in the film and create incredibly talented actresses in their own right. Joey King and Maisie Williams. Hello, ladies. This episode is brought to you by Uber. You know those little choices you make that give you more comfort throughout the day. Like planning your outfit the night before, sharing your location with a friend when heading home late, taking the actual lunch break away from your desk. Uber has one too. It's called Women Preferences and it lets women riders request a woman driver directly in the app. Because sometimes having a little more choice can make a big difference. It's a simple option that can help women feel more comfortable during their ride. Learn more on the Uber app. OMG, look at who I'm getting to talk to double trouble right over here. Someone just rang me over here. Wait, take us with you. Who is it? My husband's answer, you know what I think? I think it's part of his anniversary present. I got him just arrived right right at this moment. Oh my gosh, what did you get him? Tell us we won't tell anyone. I got, because it's our three-year wedding anniversary case right over there. You're gonna hear what I got. It's fine. Just go on the other room. Three years of the leather. So I got him a really nice leather carry on. And someone's delivering it to the house? That's fancy. Well, I got it shipped. Okay, okay. So it's just someone who shipped it. Okay, got it. I got it online. It was like a white glove service. We're like a butler is delivering a leather case. I want my bag to have a butler. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if we ruin the surprise. But that was except we get excited when somebody rings it. I mean, I'm sorry. Someone rang the doorbell. But who rings a doorbell anymore? Like there's no like we had this happen on the show when we were with Rachel Dratch. Rachel Dratch. Yes. Amy, we know. Like the best. I that clip comes up on my feet all the time and I watch it. Just I watch it fall through every time I see it. Joey King, Maisie Williams. I just want to say I love and have watched everything you guys have done. When I saw that you were in this in practical magic too, when I saw that you were the the daughters in the film, I was like, okay, okay, we're going heavy hitter here. We've got a four top of real heavy four top with Nicole and Sandy and you too. I'm like incredible. Oh, my God. Also, you're crushing it on TikTok. We love making TikToks. We really do. TikToks are so good. Oh, my God, it makes me so like I feel I'm like blushing that you watch them. No, Joey, you've been you've been on TikTok for a minute. Me. Yeah, I've been up in there in there a while. You were there before COVID, I believe. Which is the birth. My sister got me on TikTok. I remember to promote one of the Kissing Boots movie. She was like, you've got to get on TikTok and start dancing. And I was like, you're right. Whatever you say. Yep, and now here we are. I feel like I've been watching you guys depressed for this movie. And it's been very cool to watch not only like I've said, very talented women get to do something very special together, but it does feel like you are all really enjoyed working together. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was kind of crazy. It was a year ago to the date that we finished, I think. Right, Joey? You're right. Yeah, it was so we spent the whole summer together. It was beautiful. And then doing all this press together has just been like such a dream. Just a lot of things actually. Yeah, so much giggling. Maisie's like my favorite woman ever. So this has just been like the greatest joy to make such a close friend through this film that's all about Sisterhood. Every time, you know, they always are like, "What kiss bell would you cast?" And press if you guys cast one spell, my answer every time was like, "I just want Maisie to live closer to me." How would be so nice living in LA and there? We were literally in the waiting room to come on here and we're just like texting like we're just can't stop. So we can't stop communicating. Yes. Maisie, play your cards right in a leather briefcase. We'll be hand delivered to your door in just a few years. Okay, so we're talking, I am talking to Sandra Bullock today. Whom I really don't think I have met. Okay. Yeah, I mean, now I am of the age where we may have met and I forget. But I don't think so. And we've never really properly met. What was your first experience meeting Sandy and what do you love about working with her and should I call her Sandy right away? I feel like, yes. Okay. You should just rock straight in with Sandy. Okay. I feel like she'd love it. And she always shoots that back way. I met her. She immediately offered me some Harry Boe, I think, which just like broke the ice, which was lovely. And it was at the read through. Just to be clear, that's a gummy bear. Yes. A gummy bear. Got it. Right. Yeah. Important to make that distinction. Yes. Yeah. And she texts us immediately. It's your mother here. Like how she gets. Oh, mother. Mother. Take mother. It's your mother. It was your mother. Just like ever since it's just been like a mother to us on size, it's been so special. We went for a little sleep over at her house. It was cool. We tell us a more about that. What do you mean before you started shooting you did? No, it was like after a night shoot. After the night after a night shoot, we went there and we had little cocktails like six of us in the morning. And then stayed over in her little cottage. And then the next day we got to go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge and ate all her food. She had to work. She left us in the house. And then it was just like A and found the sofa. Watched like YouTube. It was nice. It was so nice. It was, I mean, she's just the best. She's such a nurturing spirit. She's like, she's one of those people who, you know, she says that she'll always be there for you. And she's like really means it. Like she'll answer the call any time, any day. I've texted her in distress before me. Like I need your advice on something. And she's like calling now. And so and that's just such a, she's such a, she's such a, like a girl's girl. And also just like, I don't know. She's just, I'm so amazed by her and her. And everything she's been through and she handles herself with so much grace and elegance. And I just, and she's, she's just so hot too. I know. She's so hot. She's so hot. It's, it's a lot, like it's a lot. It's hard to ask somebody like, why are you so hot? I think you have to. That'll be my first question. Why are you so hot? Why are you so hot? No, but she has this thing. I mean, we've been like, you know, we get ready for our guests and we're like reviewing their body of work. And her body of work is so diverse. It's incredible. She has been in a space movie. Then it's made $1,000,000. She has done like really deep intense drama. She's done horror. She's done incredible physical comedy. She's been done hugely successful romantic comedies. She's done some, she can do it at all. How do she like to work? And what was it like working with her in this film? I mean, like, I love watching her. She, she's almost like tinkered. Like, especially if it's like a physical comedy scene. Like, she's really building it. She'll get to set early, like, she'll rehearse on her own. She'll like block with supporting artists. And like, she'll build it and build it and build it. And each takes, she like adds something more. But it's like, she's constantly finessing one idea. And it's like so amazing to watch. And it's like really nice to watch someone doing something that seems so off the cuff and so natural. But they're like, and they've thought about it a lot. And they know what props they want to have. And they, and like, I just, I liked to see that on set. Like, it was a peak behind the curtain. Because everything she does is so funny. And it seems so natural and seems just so in the moment. But like, it takes a lot of work for her to do something that she's like, really happy with. than we got to work. watch that time and time again on this movie. - She's also just a really great generous actor too. Like there is just some stuff where we had where it was like really emotional for either me or Nicole and like the way that she would support us when it was like our turn to have like a really tough moment or a big moment was so just beautiful and it's like inspiring and so special because she takes her job so seriously and she also takes making sure others experience a good job too so seriously. - I ask the people that I have the pleasure to zoom with if they have a question for my guest and I was curious if you think there's anything I should ask her today on your behalf. - I think she's got such a lack of vanity to the way that she approaches physical comedy and I think it's really like I get very self conscious of that and I know that there are times in her life where she feels self conscious but it's never in front of the camera. It always seems like it's never in front of the camera and I just like has that always been just instinctive or is that something that she's like crafted? Like if she's feeling self conscious how does she get out of it? Like I just like really I really wanna know how she backward that. - I love that question, Maisie. I think that's such a good question. - Okay and what's yours, Joey? - My question for Sandra is I wanna know when the last time she just quietly thought to herself, does it get any better than this? Like what's the last moment she had that was so does it get any better than this? - Oh, that's such a beautiful question and it's gonna also help her get back to that moment. That's a really generous question. - I'm excited to watch the episode 'cause I'm excited to like see where she goes mentally with where she arrives. I think that'll be special. - Oh, that's a great question. You guys are so smart and talented. And the future, you're the future. So we're in really good hands. - And I'm always said that. - And we all know that the future looks incredible and there's nothing to worry about. - Yeah, literally it's perfect. (laughing) These are perfect, tomorrow ends, come on. - Well, thank you so much for your time. I know she'll be thrilled that I talked to you both and I bet she's got the warmest things to say right back to you. So thank you guys so much for doing this. - We love you Amy. Thank you for having us. - Thank you so much for having us. - Thank you so much, such a pleasure to meet you both. I hope to get you in the stooode. - Yes. - We would love. - Great, me too. Okay, bye. - Bye. - Bye. - Folks, it's officially fall, which means we've entered the season of change. Changing leaves, refreshed wardrobes, and new routines. But the one thing that doesn't need to change, your phone. The smartest upgrade this season isn't a new phone, it's a better wireless plan. Switch to visible, the ultimate wireless hack. 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It's something Aunt Jett says. - And let's start there. - Okay. - Because when I was thinking about how to start this interview, which I've been very excited for, we were just talking about the fact that you really can do so many things well, and how tiring it must be to be good at so many things. - You know what it is. - Your physical comedian, you're an incredibly successful producer. You can do really deep, meaningful things, big and small. You've been in huge hits. You've been in small-- - In stinkers. - In huge hits of that song, the hit bail. - You've been in huge hits. You've been in things people don't choose to see. - Don't like. - Yeah. - And you've, what stood that? - Yes. - Did I? - But you are, to me, you have what Lucille Ball has. You have what Carol Bernad has. You have like a physicality. You have timing. What did you guys laugh at in your family when you were little? Because you have, you have really interesting creative parents. - A really interesting parents had. They're dead. - Yes. - My mother was German. - Right. - What is she laughing at? - Not funny. - Really did not have a sense of humor, which actually makes you want to challenge that on a daily basis. My father was from Birmingham, Alabama, English Irish, French, you know, like storyteller from the South. So, he had a rhythm of his own. But I really think I got it from trying to break my mother because she was trying to break me. - Yeah, by making laugh. And it was always when I hurt myself when I fell. So which kind of goes in hand. - She would laugh hard when you fell. - She would laugh so hard and I went, my mother didn't laugh a lot. So to get joy out of her was everything. My dad, I had on the pocket. But my mother really was someone that I knew wanted to laugh and needed it. But when I finally found it, it was like, it was my little ace in the pocket. She was a tough audience. - Was there any American stuff that she laughed at that she liked when you were younger? Do you remember her laughing at anything or any liking, any pop culture American TV? - We didn't really have a lot of TV in the house. We didn't have magazines when I lived overseas, we watched foreign films, you know, I would always gravitate to the ones that had a physicality that you could understand it. But no, my mother was an artist. She was an opera singer and it was very serious. - I mean, I'm incredibly intrigued by this. - She was extraordinary and I noticed that now more than ever being a mom and seeing her practice or craft, which was incredibly annoying to me. - Yeah. - Of course it was annoying. It was loud. - Yeah. - And it was in the basement of our house. And it would permeate the whole neighborhood as we're playing like kickball outside. You hear vocalizing and you're just like, you have very good posture. - I'm trying. - Did she have really good posture? - Yes. - She was- - She was- - Press control and all that stuff. - All of it from the diaphragm, so she was, so she was, she practiced a high art. So did my father. - Yeah. - But he just had that southern thing that was more relaxed, but also to control the room and put the remedies. She had no desire to put the remedies credible and then whatsoever. - I'm always fascinated by the people that can stay quiet and that don't feel the need to change the temperature in the room. It's fascinating to me. It's like such a power move. - It is, it's funny that you bring that up because today I had that very conversation with my sister. I was like, I am so tired of hearing myself talk. - Oh, babe. - She goes like, I'm like, and it's also the press junket. I feel like I'm here to just share and do whatever, but she says, you know, it's also your undiagnosed ADHD and your trauma response. I went. - Okay. I read for Phil, thank you so much. - But if this has ever happened to you where you're on a conference call and you're accidentally on mute and you're talking but you're on mute and then you get mute and you realize like, I've actually just been the most powerful I've ever been by not talking by pausing for more than 10 seconds, but I never do that. I have to work at it. - Okay. We were talking about, we were talking about your German mom, but we were talking about opera. I, your relationship to music is really interesting to me. I've learned that about knowing you, not only like, you know, as a producer, you're picking music for the projects you make. There's really good needle drops that are in films that you make because of you, but you sang opera. - No, I did not. - Oh, you did it. Are you a singer? - Not even close. - Okay. - No, I'm not one of those who says, oh, I can't sing and then I'll be in like at the car and I'll belt something out and they're like, you've got a great voice. - Okay. - You know, you don't have a good voice. I should not be singing, but what I have is great rhythm. - Yeah. - I see. - Timing. - Timing. - So you sang with your parents? Were you not in opera? - Yes, I was in the background. - I was in the background. There's always like some filthy child stealing money and coins off the floor. That was me. - And so do you feel, did your mom want you to be a singer? Did she ever want me? - No. - No, she knew. - Look, there could only be, she knew. There was only one her and she was, she was of the highest order of talent. She just, she was the one. I was the jokester. I found my way to sort of level the vibe anywhere was through that. So she knew, of course, at some point I would be that. I was in theater and I did things like that. I didn't even attempt to sing. - I am going to my first opera very soon. I've never been. - Which one are you going to do? - George Saunders. They're doing an opera based on his book, Lincoln in the Bardow at the Met. Really? And I'm thrilled. But my question for you is, what, like, what, what should I prepare for? Because I'm assuming you've been to many. Yes. And it's amazing how no matter what the language, when it's good, you understand it all. And it's, it's the profundity of the performances and the set deck and the, it's grand. It's always grand. I remember as a kid, I would be in the back of the car. My mother would always test me, like, she would play something. She goes, what does that make you feel? And I would, I would lean in. I would say this feels like someone's losing someone, or they're, they're looking for someone who's dead. You know, like, you, you could feel it when it's good. When it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. I think you're, at the Met, you're probably going to be just fine. And it's going to be amazing. I think you're going to be okay. What a cool thing for your mom to do to test you on what are you feeling? What are you hearing? I mean, we would go to Italy for the operas, just sit on the stone steps and with our little ice cream and just watch the animals come on stage and the, you know, it was, it was just beautiful. It was really beautiful. And speaking of German, what, can you tell me your favorite German word? And I'm going to try to guess what it means? It's, it's, it's, um, mishayskopf. Say again, please. Shayskopf. Shayskopf. I'm going to say that is, um, the feeling that you get when you're about to win an argument. You're very close because the word would probably be used in the argument is you right before the mic drop moment. Oh my god. Cheers. Yes. I speak German now. Do you want to know what it means? Oh, yeah. What does it mean? Sorry. It means shithead. It's what my mother would teach. All the boyfriends are like, would you like me to teach you some trauma? And they're like, yes, Ms. Bullock, I really would. And then she'd give them, you know, shithead in this. So she, maybe she did have a tiny sense of humor. That sounds pretty funny. She sounds like a trickster. She, you know what? She is. She just didn't know it at the time. Yeah. It came to her later on. Well, I mean, I, you, everybody needs a straight man. And it feels like your mom provided that. Yeah. Um, the, you know, there's a million journeys to get to being on screen. And like, you know, you, you're performing, you're acting, you move to New York, you study at my, I study in college, uh, the teacher that came to the, what college were you at? East Carolina University, only because my best friend in high school had an application. My dad really wanted me to go to a school of the arts, the top 10. I was not getting into any of them. I auditioned for one. It's very unfortunate. Do you remember what you auditioned with? I don't recall. That's dramatic. Yes. I remember the smell of the room. The smell of fear. I remember the flop sweat. Oh, it was, it was this austere white rose. I was like, I'm not supposed to be here. I'm not, I wasn't, I was pretty oddly shy as a kid because we traveled back and forth. And I had a list. And my list still kind of comes out when I'm like on this press tour, my list has come out when you're tired or talking to your family or something. Yeah. And I didn't really notice I had one until a few years ago. I was working in my coaster. I was like, you have on this, but I was like, you're like, stop paying attention. Stop until you get my mouth. Yeah, worry about yourself. But I, I didn't, I wasn't baked. I wasn't sure enough. I was very sheltered. So I could never have made it in any of those environments. I did not have the confidence. Did you like studying all, like, that Myzer, by the nurse technique? Very much. So for people who don't know what Myzer technique is, it's kind of cool. What, what, how would you explain it? Premises being truthful in imaginary circumstances, going, so I, I wasn't comfortable when they would say, lay on the floor and you're going to fry like bacon. And I was like, I'll never be cast as that. This will never, it felt artificial to me. It didn't, but Myzer, they give you a piece, started off with, you know, this, the silo, silo liquids in a book. You had to go and do an emotional preparation as if going, okay, this never happened to you. But prepare as close as you can to the emotion and the feeling of getting to this. What would make you feel like this? And it gave you a tool outside of yourself that made sense, at least for me, made sense to hang on and also listening. Yeah. Which were probably not very good at because we liked, we liked to, you know, you know what? I'm good at it. You are. And so are you. I've seen it. Active listening. You're very good at it. And I am to learn. It's, but not always, not always. But can't you tell very quickly when you're with someone who's not listening? And there's like, there's no lonely or feeling. Yeah. When you can tell when you're talking and you can tell that someone's dead behind the eyes. It kind of makes me sad. It makes me sad. It makes me really sad. And I, maybe it's, maybe it's a little code dependency. Maybe it's like a little bit of making sure I'm staying connected. But I, I think I, I think you can still be the listener while you're talking. Yes. Yes. If you consider yourself a talker. Yes. And if you've done enough therapy, too, you've learned that, you know, it requires you to just stop. Yeah. And that, all of that, it's all of that together in a pile. And I got very lucky that this teacher came in to teach the Myzner technique. Yeah. It was always the girls in class who could cry on the spot. And I'm like, Oh, they're such brilliant actors. She can cry. You know, never could get there. No, tears. No, I can't unless I feel it. What, you don't like the tears? I have a whole thing about tears. Just explain. Well, I think that tears to your point are very effective. But people, just like being flexible, people can sometimes are just good at tears. Like they were just born being good at tears. And keeping them like perched right there. And then it just, do you know, when I cry, it's the square mouth. It's like things tilt. It implodes. And it's there's nothing cinematic. I heard that Elizabeth Moss. I don't know if this is true. Elizabeth right in calling that she can pick what I, she's going to cry at it. Stop. That's what I heard. Isn't that, isn't that an incredible rumor? We don't call us Lizzy call us because she's so good at crying. The people that are able to go can blink and drop a tear. I'm sort of like, I'm having a little Fomo like right now. I wish I had. But I think it's like being able to touch your toes or something like either have it. I mean, I can do that. Not all of us can, Sandy. Well, I've been practicing. It requires. I know. I tried to touch my toes with John Cena when he was in here. And he was, and that's not a euphemism. How dare you? And he texted his toes so well. He touched his toes to the floor. I can see that. Are you that flexible? Can you do that? Damn it. But I practice. I practice. I practice. Okay. So, be it. Okay. So then you want to do it? No, um, where I had to be flexible. Yeah. You probably did have to be flexible and speed. You've talked about this before, but I'm really, those early days of like walking in the rooms, trying things like you were saying, not being fully cooked, but feeling excited about stuff, knowing that you had the passion, but maybe not the experience yet, but going for it, those swings feels like really paid off with speed. You were able to like meet the moment of that movie with the enthusiasm of that character needed. And that audition process, I've read about it and read about it and read about you talking about it, but it sounds really funny and fun. It's in in in retrospect. Right. But again, it was again, like the audition for the school I didn't get into. Yeah. There's a lot of schritzing and just you're outside of your body. And I think from New York, I was I was a waitress every Thursday. I got the backstage magazine. I pounded the pavement. I went to your little auditions with your your headshot and you just you just had to do it. So I was comfortable just doing it. Yeah. Um, did you have to pretend you were on a bus when you were auditioning? I was on a folding chair and they gave me a paper plate. I think I have to say, you know, and we talk about acting a lot on this because I talked to a lot of actors. I think everybody should have to do that once to feel like, you know, you think in life, like I felt what it's like to be humiliated. And you're like, no, you're not. And then they bring in Keanu Reeves, like when they had the call back and you're psyched, am I still on the chair with a paper plate? Yes. So plate. Okay. Okay. Dissociate and dreaded. Oh. Did you do a little fashion roll? Yeah. My back there because the bus has all these levers here. Yeah, you're just the mirror in the hydraulics. Yeah. There's all kinds of stuff going on that I was like, you know, yeah, checking the glove compartment. There's no glove compartment. I mean, I don't know. Is there maybe there's an air freshener? There's a million. Not in this. Yes, air freshener. That movie is so huge. It's huge for you. Keanu lifelong friends. You create this incredible chemistry together. We didn't create it. It just shows up. It shows up. You're right. And you have chemistry with salt. You are really, really good. I'm like a skunk. I kind of just spray it. It's ready. Where's the light of fire? Whatever dogs get scared. That's what people don't realize. You have to like, I agree. You got to, oh, you got to turn the channel. You got to, but what, but talk about chemistry for a second, because people love to talk about it. But what, like, what, what, what, what was it about you and Keanu that like immediately you just felt? I think with us, we're so different. We're so he is very reserved in Zen. And as we were saying, earlier, give us a silent room and you can watch us spin out. So anytime he's silent, I'm like, the whirling dervish around his silence and he's just waiting for me to wear myself up. You're just patiently waiting and then he often doesn't respond to what I say, you know, and that until like maybe a day later when he's thought about it. So it's someone to learn from in terms of what you and I need to work on. Yeah, the tortoise in the hair kind of thing. Yeah. But you've worked with really, really different-- I work with men. And they all have-- they are good at playing. Yeah. They're just like-- they're there to volley back and I think because I am not the femme fatale. I am-- I am the tomboy. I am the one that you'll get in there with the guys and, you know, I think that's why it works for me because I love being poked. I love being, you know, just be the needle and just trying to get at me because that's a spark for me rather than the real sweet stuff, which I just goes un-interesting to me. It goes back to timing and when you have that and I'm just-- I can watch you all day long but your respect and support of your opponent because it is like a match. It is. And it's a little bit, a tiny bit competitive in a fun way. In a fun way. But it's also-- I see you have so much respect for the person opposite you. I feel it. I feel it and you wait. Like even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I see you giving the person grace enough. You're like, am I gonna step in on this one? I'm gonna step in on this one. I see it and it's a rhythm that just-- you feel it here. I feel it here. And don't you feel-- I feel like people have music. They just have a rhythm and to figure out how to make it work is you have to just kind of get into their song. Totally. Yeah. And then I think the reason why people like actors or performers or writers or whatever is they just like their music. They like their song. Yeah. It's like when someone says you have good taste, that means you have the taste that I have. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you have nice taste. This is what I would do. Yeah, that's so true. Gravity. I want to ask you questions about gravity. I mean, I love talking about it. Oh my god. I have so many questions. Ask away because I don't think it-- yeah, go ahead. Well, you were-- before we get to gravity, you know, you won for the blind side Oscar. You've been nominated many times. How many? You know, I've been nominated twice. And one once. Okay, well, that's more than once. It's like a 50, 50, I have 50% right? Maybe percent. Okay, several. You've been nominated several times. And you won an Oscar and a Razi in the same weekend. Yeah, incredible. That was, that was incredible. Of course. And I came and took the Razi back because I can't win home with it. And they were like, you can't have this. I was like, just give. They're really amazing. We only have one. We only have one. We had Dakota Johnson on here. Dakota Johnson told her a really nice story about a voicemail that she got to me. She's one of the, she's one of us. What did you, what did you do when she won her Razi? Called her and welcomed her to the club. What did you win your Razi for? All about Steve. I feel like I did with Bradley Cooper. Oh, and we never heard from him again. Yes, exactly. He just, he just, he just, he just, yeah, yeah. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. 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And I kept looking at a dance teacher that I had at ECU, who came from Alvin Ailey. And taught me how to not throw my body around. He goes, you gotta stop throwing your body around as he throw me up against the wall. And I'm like, I'm coming back. But I learned how to disconnect the head from the body, because the head could speak at normal speed. And the body had to move like that. You know, everything had to be what it would be in gravity. As I was looking at a dot, that's George, that's a Soyuz, that's, and the sound mixer had, we chose selections of sounds and music and songs and vibes that, like you said, you start vibing with a project. I was like, this song reminds me of this right here. This makes me feel this moment. You know, what makes me feel an absolute silence, what, you know, what, so I would say, I'm not getting there. I play two, seven, and five. And then I'll get to, and he just was my life mixer. He would mix it and just get me to any music that you'd be willing to share that you listen to that. I don't even remember, but I just remember at the end, he gave me this tiny little, you know, what's it called? Like, you know, drive a tiny little thing with like a whole worried plug in, you know, and he just handed it to me and I was like, that's my performance. Wow. That's so cool. So it tapped into my body, because my body had to do these strange zero. So you were just faking the whole time. Everything was faking like everything. George and I were in the pod and Alfonso was giving us notes and they said, does anyone want a water and I said, I do. And they handed it to me and I grabbed it and George goes, you know, you just did didn't you? And I said, no, have an idea. He goes, you were like this. Everything was very slow. And I was kept talking to Alfonso and I grabbed the water. But my body was so used to having that must have so magically been really cool. Like a must have been peaceful. It was very peaceful. Yeah. Yeah. Well, was he humongous hit? Congrats. Didn't he? Yeah. And you had just adopted your son, right? I delivered. Yes. We called him Luberty Jones. That was his name on the, because he was just, I dressed him in his cute little English vests. And he had these in the house. He was so cute as baby ever. And he's still cute, but that was super cute. Yeah. It was just, it was an amazing experience because for Alfonso and his son, and they wrote it together, it was about his sort of feeling lost and having an existential moment in life of despair. And how do you show that in space? You go to space? It was, it's such an incredible, beautiful movie. And your performance is incredible. Thank you. And George too. I mean, it's, it's all just exactly where it needs to be. Yeah. And, and it, like space films about space, I kind of watch any time, but the feeling of like, I don't want to go to space. I guess it's one of those. Nor do I. Okay. Good. Let's not go. Yeah. And what was it like working with clones? You know what? I've known clones since before he got, is that how he, what do you like to be called in your clones? He, like, he prefers. I'm all, I'm all calls him that. When did you guys first work? It was, we, we'd only worked together then, but it's, we first met when he was, you know, on back porches of all their friends, drunk, doing buddy-hacket imitations. And I like, this is before, what was that, the show he did where he was a doctor, you know, you are that thing. Yeah. So before he got there, the other he are, but it's where he was doing all the pie, he was like George of the pilots before he became. Wait, did you just say, what is the show where he was the doctor? Yeah, you know, the doctor show. My God. He are. I know. I said he are. You have it on there. I've watched ER three times. You know, I've watched the entirety of ER. Like recently, the last time was during COVID. Well, it's worth it. Everyone is telling. It's so good. Yeah. They're just, I mean, yeah. Okay. So George is a player. He will play and he will bat things back and forth. And he is, he's fun. Yeah. George is fun. Because we're great together. Yeah. Really great together. I mean, we're good in space together. I don't know how we'll do on land, but on space, we're amazing. In space. In space. In space. We're great. There's no way out there that can compete with us. I only work with him in space. And this one I'll only work with underwater. Exactly. But now we're talking about practical magic, which you're doing tons of press for. First of all, and I just love, I mean, I know it's weird to talk about the press people are doing, but just watching you in the cold talk is so nice and relaxing. You guys are such opposites in the best way. The cold is just kind of on a different channel. And in her, and like in a really, she's regal. She is. She's regal. And she's also very playful. And so are you, but you play totally differently. And to see her play is really nice because you don't get to see that a lot. You know, she's on this one because what I had to carry wasn't really sexy for a comedian because I was like, I'm grieving. Yeah. I'm having issues with my daughter. Right. I'm battling with fear and all that stuff. And then she got the fun role. And I was like, where can I find moments that are appropriate within these dire situations? And we kept with the writer writing these fun lines for Nicole. And she didn't want to do like, she was like, I don't, I don't want to be the comedic sidekick. I'm like, yes, you do. Promise, promise. And she just took to it. Like she found her, she found her rhythm. Yeah. And she's really good at it. Yeah. I mean, the friendship you guys have is really cool to watch. I mean, it's very authentic. - I know female friendships are very, very important to you. They've, I would imagine. - I mean, as they are to you. - Absolutely. - What have the women in your life done and the friendships in your life done for you? - Everything. It's like, I don't think I can quantify it because it changes with the seasons. It changes with our changes. It changes with where we are and where we're not. And you know what, they give me a tremendous amount of grace. They judge, like my sister would be like, she's doing that thing again, you're like, but my sister will sit there and allow that thing to pass because she knows my history. She knows where it's coming from. Even though she wants to kill me, she's gonna wait it out. - Yeah, that's what I always say about friends is they know you really well and they like you anyway. - Oh, yes. - You know, it's like they really, really know you and yet they still take your call. - Yeah, and hopefully, I mean, it's really important for me to be a good friend. - What's your conflict style? Do you argue a retreater? - I'm a mix, I'm a mix, I'm a little sprinkle but it also depends on who I'm opposite what their style is. You know, I know that's sort of the vernacular right now. I was like, I'm an avoidant, you know, whatever. I am probably a little bit of everything depending on who I'm opposite and how safe I feel. - Yeah. - Because in what we do, unless it's very close relationships, you don't know who's coming to you with safety and giving you a safe place. So it just depends. But I can read people really well. - I bet. - And I don't always heed my own warning until like three beats later. I'm like, I knew it. But you know, I'm like, I wanna give them a shot. I wanna, you know, like whatever they're coming at me. And maybe it's this. Maybe they're having a hard day. - Yes. - And then three beats later. I'm like, it's what I thought it was. - Yes. - Yeah. That instinct of feeling something and listening to it and responding to it, like that to me is like a lifetime of work. Basically, it's like our entire life is to figure out like how to shorten the distance between what we sense and what we act on. - But do you, don't you think that's also being a woman? Like we have, we have a more sensitive meter, I feel. - Of course. - Or we're also conditioned in this, you know, social universe that we are not to trust that. - Well, we become experts on other people and we become really, really aware of how people are acting and changing. And to your point, we're conditioned to give a lot of grace. Like that's why like someone like your mom, who's like, I'm gonna be an island and you're gonna have to come to me is still really fascinating to find in a woman. Because it's still just like, whoa, she's not saying anything and she's not pleasing anybody. And she really does not care that people are projecting all this stuff on her. It's fascinating. - Yeah, I mean, the way you're saying that I'm going, I'm getting to know my mom, like I feel like I am getting to know my mom as I become more of a mom, you know, even each day. And like, oh, I see why I should set that. I see why. - I mean, Prachcom Magic has a lot of those themes, like beautiful themes about like you talked about history, trauma, pain, the idea of protecting the people that you love, the idea of like what is a mother's burden and blessing, what does she get to do, what does she have to do, it's so great. And you're playing a witch, 30 years later, almost from when you played it before. And I'm so interested in this idea in general that as women get older, like there's something that gets very witchy about us. - We've always had it. It is, it's the lag time, those three beats become one beat. - Right. - You no longer, you know, like you're no longer waiting or second guessing yourself, you go, it just is. Because you've had enough instances in life to prove you correct when you had that feeling. It's called mother's intuition for a really good reason, women's intuition. Like it's, we are extra sensitive to things and it's a both a blessing and a curse, but I think as you get older, you just don't waste time anymore, you know, at least I don't. - The way you speak about the losses that you've had in your life makes people feel very seen and you're very generous about it. And it, in many ways, reminds me of this idea of like the wichiness that happens to us when we get older, that we're coming in with some pain and hopefully some lessons or knowledge from it or whatever, just, and I really appreciate it as a person listening to you share. Because I don't know, I can't explain it other than, I feel safe in the way that you share. 'Cause I feel like you're taking care of yourself, which is a big relief for me. - Yes. - That makes any sense. And I want to take care of you. I want to take care of you making me tearing. - Yeah. - Guys, stop. I really want to take care of people's souls, like whatever, whoever their person is, I'd never want to be known as someone who violated someone's confidence that someone gave me a piece of themselves and I was careless with it. - Yeah. - And I think, sure, younger age, I was a dingbat, but because of the things that I've been able to see and feel and experience and get behind the curtain on, I feel like it's a secret that I don't want to share from those who deserve to benefit from my experience. - Well, you've spoken beautifully about being a caretaker to Brian and there's a lot of caretakers listening. - The caretaker world is absolutely underserved. I've been very private since I was a little kid 'cause my mother always thought I was up to something that I wasn't. Really, I'm like, "Why am I getting blank for things I didn't do?" I just, I'm a guilty, I just look guilty, you know? But I don't want to ever, ever, ever not be, "Oh God, how do I describe this?" I don't, I did what I had to do in the situation I was in. I didn't want to say anything out of turn on what anyone else experienced within that situation 'cause everyone is experiencing something their own journey with that. There's so much to the story that would be of service but my story, my slice of pie and me and the kids, you know, that's all we can speak about. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? I love to say, but you know, it serves no purpose other than I have the information. I've met so many people whose family members have been diagnosed with ALS or a neurological disorder. I'm like, this is what I know. - What did you learn about yourself when you became a caretaker? What was a new thing that you didn't know yourself? - I am always a caretaker. - Yeah. - Always. And I learned that I didn't take care of the person that was taking care of everybody else. And that was a big wake up call for me. - Yeah. - And I'm not good at asking for help, but I needed help and I needed to ask it in a way that was safe. Thankfully, I had a few angels at step four and I was like, this is where the nurses are. This is where the, you know, what did I learn about myself that I have an incredible sister? And she, she, in her worry for me, gave me like an alarm of going, if you do not start taking care of you, something's gonna happen to you and what's gonna happen to Lewin Lai. And I was like, you know, that to me, that's, you know, I learned about myself. I have an extraordinary sister. You know, that's the only thing that I know. I'm still developing. I mean, coming into a press tour, I was looking at the photos of the London premiere and I'm like, I'm not a red carpet gal. - Are you out of your mind? - Okay, but I'm just gonna, let me just-- - Sorry. - Okay, I'm gonna let everyone-- - Absolutely, that's our first fight. - You look better than ever. - Let me know what you're doing. - Your red carpet is slaying. - Okay, I'm done. - I agree with you, the outfits-- - It's not just the outfits. - It was incredible stylists that worked on this that made me feel comfortable in my body. From the neck down, I was so taken care of. The person on the inside, like I said to everybody, I would start panicking as we would get ready to leave. And I said, you guys are working on the outside in. I'm sitting in my body. I have no idea what you guys are doing. - Yeah. - And I was just like, and then I got on the red carpet and I was like, okay, I've got this. I'm gonna pretend I, which hand should I put in? I'll work it. Like I'm not someone who's like, what's up? - Totally. - I mean, it's-- - I'm not one of those. It's like, it's like, you know what I mean? It's the better thing. I just had this experience, I just did a photo shoot and I was like, did you do this? I gave myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you get in there and you be the person that sticks to your mouth. - You stick your finger in your mouth. - You don't wanna say that? - I was like, just be into it. I can't, it's so hard for me. I can't just be like, I'm very, very sexy right now. (laughing) And you just have to be a lot of like, who, me? - You'd be like, I'm just in the middle of something. - And then there's two fingers. Like, when someone shoves two fingers in their mouth in a photo shoot, bad ass. I'm like, girl, I wish I had the whole fist in there if I could. - Okay, I understand. I hear you mean. - So you're the out there. - Yes, I know you're saying it. - So, what about this? 'Cause we need you to like, approve some of these shots and we can get them on social media. 'Cause I, by the end, I was like, I did it. I did a really good job, you know. I loved everything from here to, then I went, whoop. (laughing) - So what's your face doing? Is it, is it just your eyes just like? I was like, why do I have stick face? 'Cause you're like, I'm like, no. No, worst, I'm like this. (laughing) - I'll be like, you might be a resting bitch face. Is that what you had? - Like, I smelled something. You know, like, you got like, what happened? That's not what I was being. -Because-- -It was because you're here? -You know why? Because you're funny. -Yeah, but that's why you're-- -That's why you're-- -And then when you're funny on a red carpet, you get this. -Nightmare. -You get someone going, "Can you raise the camera?" It's like, "Nightmare." -It's an nightmare. -It's an nightmare. -It's an nightmare. We don't belong on a red carpet. -No! -We don't. -I know, but you do. -There should be a comedy red carpet. -Oh, we're not the same. -We're not the same. -I think we should advocate for a comedy red carpet. -Unfortunately, that's every red carpet I've ever done. It is a comedy red carpet. -But where are the cameras? -I'm really relating, because I feel like I try my best. -Yes. -I try so hard, and I get full hair make up for hours. -Yes. -It's like, "Look at myself in the mirror." And I'm like, "I'm right. Okay, all right." And I get in the car, and I get out there, and I feel like I'm posing like this. This is how I feel like I'm posing. And I see the picture, and it's like-- -Yeah. -It is the way. -I still know what you're talking about. -It's like, "When did I do that?" -When you were authentic. -But that's not the place to be. -No, exactly. -You're right. -You can't be authentic. -Yes. -And we have to stop. -We have to just-- -I agree. -We would stop doing what? -Talking, moving. -I agree. -We can't talk. -You know, there's sort of those who-- -No. -No. -No, Nicole is incredible. -Well, Nicole is a goddess. -Shall we just remove her from anything that we're in? So, like, I'm like, "You do you." -I would never want to do the red carpet with Nicole. -First of all, I would look-- -Do you have empathy for me now? -I mean, I hate you to do the red carpet with me. -5/8. -Yeah, it's 5/7 or 3/8. -Can you imagine-- I mean, I'm-- Can you imagine me standing next to Nicole? I would look-- -I honestly-- -Oh, you're shocked at my step. -I would just be doing some weird-- -Yeah. -With your hand. -You're shocked at my step. -It's like we're falling out of my pocket, and I'd be talking to her like this. -Yes. -We all do it. We all do it. And she is a goddess. -She is a goddess. -Yes. -Okay. This leads me to my-- -Stink face leads me to-- -And I bet by the way, we all have body dysmorphia, so I bet you're looking-- -We all do. We all do. -I bet you're looking credible. And I'm not bet. I saw it. You did. Okay. We talk-- We always on this podcast talk to people who know our guests and give us, like, we talk well behind their back. -That's me, Jesus. -And we talk to Maisie Williams. -We really am. Are we already done? -We haven't. -No, we're not done. -No, we're-- -I have so many more things on the paper. -The workshop. -But we usually do, like, about an hour, an hour, 10. -Okay. -And we're live. -I'm just kidding. -We have been live the whole time. -So they're going to say, "Oh, my gosh. These are all stuff." -It's like, "It's just so working." -Oh, my God. We just put it on there. -You know, when I like to do in the red carpet, just put a little black one, cookie right under my nose. -We just think about it. -And then it just sits right here. -It's working. -And you just look square. -What do we create? There's, like, a really great collar that you sort of had, and it made your jaw snatched, and then you had this taken care of it. -On the way out, your publicist is like, "Do you have your cookie?" -Don't forget your cookie. -Oh, shit. -My cookie, for my neck. -My cookie, sorry. -Okay. You're looking incredible. We all look incredible. It's-- We are women. -We miss something. -Every woman is beautiful. -Oh, my God. I'm shitty. -Oh, my God. Me too. But, okay. Here is-- We talked to Maisie, and we talked to Joey. -Oh. How extraordinary are those two? -They're so-- -They are the coolest. -They're so cool and talented. -They are everything. -Tell me about working with them what it was like. -You know, it's a combination of awe and intimidation, because they are so free. I'm glad I had to place someone that was tightly wound and had to be very maternal and dark. It stiff, you know, because their freedom is intimidating. -Yeah. -And educational. -Yeah. -Like, we were having about just being a woman and flying the flag and stuff like that, and I said something about fear. I said, "Yeah, but, you know, you've got-- This is, and Maisie goes, "Oh, no." And then she went off. She goes, "Being a woman, she went off on, oh, it's not like in the word witch." I said, "I don't like the word witch," because it always came with negative connotation. -Of course, Maisie's had full ownership of it. -Yes. -I mean, and she-- And it was like-- -Yeah, the divine feminine. -Yeah. -And it's real hard. -And they are both-- They both epitomize that. And it's so peaceful to see, because I'm like, if that's where that generation is, my daughter's definitely in that generation. -Yeah. -It makes you calm for the future. Like, maybe our job was well done. You know, Gloria Steinem. -Yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria. -I see how genuine Maisie and Joey are about other women. They're want for other women to succeed fearlessly there in support of these women. They don't feel like anything is being taken from them in their support of other women. And I'm like, I just find them-- I just-- I learned. I learned a lot from them. -They, of course, adore you. They loved working with you. And their questions were so tender. I loved their questions. And makes sense that they're those kind of people. Maisie was-- she was kind of talking about your physicality. And she also says something I found really interesting. And not to make the comparison. But it was very-- it's very Lucy. It's very Lucy-al-Ball is that she talked about the way you like to really rehearse your physical stuff. That rehearsing is the way in which you kind of get into it. -And the physical stuff-- -For the physical stuff. -For the verbal comedic stuff. -Right, but that's what Lucy used to do. Lucy used to come in and walk through her physical stuff. Which you imagine, like, her physical stuff felt like-- it was spontaneous, not at all. And she got more and more comfortable with the physical by doing-- -I didn't know that. -Yeah, she was really interesting. And anyway, she talked about how, for her, that physical stuff is kind of like, Maisie can probably cry like the best of them. -Kill, kill, kill. -I mean, Aryan Stark, the most incredible character. But she was, like, the physicality and comedy and those two things. And she was like, how does-- she was like, how do you not get self-conscious when you're doing it, which I thought was such a tender question? And I feel like we talked about it a little bit, but I guess how do you not? -You do. -Can you use it? To be uncomfortable is the greatest feeling for me within doing the physical things like that. Is uncomfortable is I can get, because then I can react off of it. So I tried to set things up to even bump myself. We had this great gentleman who's a Gary who did props, Gary. Love me so much. I was like, it's always my set boyfriend, Gary, in the props, because it became a game of, I would set things a certain way. And he figured out why I was setting them a certain way, so I could surprise myself and then get caught on something. And he would slightly move it aside. And it would just give me something else. And like, when it didn't move, I was like, why didn't he move it? Why didn't he move it for me? But to be uncomfortable is the best position to be an I feel for the comedy that I like to do. I mean, you too, right? -Absolutely. Like a little bit of tension. -Yeah. -And that feeling, like a little bit of danger. And a tiny bit of, I don't know, I guess it's what an athlete must feel as close as thing to feel, I'll never be an athlete. But the idea that there's something on the line. There's something on the line. That you can create that's not scary, but a little bit of stress. -Yes, and that's what I do for my lines. I learn them three quarters. I'll never drop a line for another actor, but I want to always be able to pivot. Drop it if I need to be in danger. Like, let it surprise me as well. Because you can become very rude. -Yeah. -And that-- -Well, that's if you learn your lines, which I choose not to do. -You don't-- -Okay, well, I don't believe in it. -That line thing. -And then, Joey had the sweetest question, which is, when is the last time you asked yourself, "Wow, does it get any better than this?" -Oh, my god. -I know. -Come. -Oh, my god. It's-- what a nice, what a crazy question. -Oh, my god. -It's not so nice. -Oh, my god, it's cry-wise. -It's so good, I don't know. -Do you see it? -Get a close-up. -We're a guy, we can do it. -But that's when I cry. I cry with kindness. In the big moments, when you expect everyone to cry, I have to hold it together because I have to take care of big things. The feels hit me when there's kindness that I didn't expect. -Yeah. -And that question. -Great question. -I don't. And I think that's what she's meaning. She knows I don't stop enough and go, but it's not true. This whole past year from London, when we started filming, I see things just like so differently. -Yeah. -I really do. It's like, I'm allowing myself to be a kid in how I see things again. -But that play is the indication that you're a little out of crisis. It's really hard. -Out of crisis. -Really? -It's hard to play when you're in crisis. It's like the reason why for a lot of people was hard to create during COVID. It was hard to organize because when you're really feeling in crisis, the play is the first to go. -Make sense. -When you feel that back again, that's some little bit of feeling that things are getting just a little bit more safe or regulated. -For Joey, both of them, because we're passing the torch, or as Gloria said, I light others' torches. So, in lighting their torch, it was a bonfire. you know and to be opposite them when there's like a lot on the we have the nostalgia part in to see them just bring it. That's when it doesn't get any better. When the choices we made to bring those two very specific talents on, and watch them kill it. You're such a good producer. You know, it's like, can we just talk, take a minute? I love it. Can we take a minute? You just, just really, really, deeply empathetic, compassionate, but very successful, and you're just a baller of a producer. You know, that's really nice of you to say. I mean, I don't, you have produced, well, like, 15 films or something, and you produce a lot of stuff. And I think a lot of people can feel your presence when you're working on something, because they know that you're producing it, frankly. You do a lot of good sucking up in your interviews. You know what, right back out you're always trying to throw it back at me. Okay. And practical magic, really good music. Right? Right. I mean, did you have to get, was it, did you have to write personal letters to you or to get their music? But you got like some calling. Yeah. You got some matching out. Olivia, Rodriguez, go. And she doesn't license to anyone. No, I know. She's a fellow with Chiku. She's, you know, she's a, she's a talk about like the fuck about future Ava. She's, she's, Olivia, please come on. We love you. Okay. All right. Let's do a speed round. A speed speed. Hold on. Let me get it. Let me, let me, what my whistle. You love real estate. Do you want to do it like this? Yeah. Let's do it like this. Well, then the purves will get into it. Oh, don't you want purves or an audience? Well, you know, it's a great question. I welcome purves. Who would I love? Because the laughing that's come, are they sitting in the bathroom? Because there's the echo. Is there a tile in that room? Yeah, there is, right? Speaking of real estate, there's no better laugh than a laugh on the toilet. Oh my god. That's such a good call. Tile, a tile of laughs. Yeah. You're right. Cause it's like usually ladies in the bathroom. I also enjoy a laugh that comes from like when you're a little kid and you're sitting on the stairs and there's like a party downstairs. Yeah. Yeah. I love the laugh. The travel is up a stair. Okay. But yes, the way like so it's happened recently. Yes. Also, yes. So I get back your question. Purves are welcome, but creeps are not. Okay. Yeah. No, we big difference. Got it. Yes. We've talked about this on here with like Baron Hallton. Okay. There's a different string of purve and a creep. You know who you are. Yeah. Okay. Um, but you love real estate and design. Do I do? How would you describe your design sense in a word or two? Depends on the structure. So you go with the place. Like you're I go with the I listen to the place I walk in and I go, who are the craftsmen? What does this place want to be? Cause I love the restoration process. So I feel like that word would be like organic history. Wabi Sabi. Wabi. Here we go. Okay. Sleep. What time do you go to bed? Love it. Um, I'm a great sleeper. I'm a great sleeper. I knew I mean, I try to stay awake until, you know, lilas and bed. Cause she's a terrorist at night. So I just, she's out then I can go to bed. But it's like 10 o'clock up at 530. That's what a professional does. It is pets. How many do you have? I have four right now. I have what flavors? I have flavors of vanilla peach, two chocolate, two chickens. I don't know. All my chickens passed away. I have, I have a, somewhat blind poodle. I have a little rescue poodle who has a collapse trachea because they shove spoons down her throat to quiet her. She was part of an illegal puppy mill. Bless her heart. At least they have legs. We had dogs without legs and the kids were like enough. We have mama who is a black feral, somewhat feral cat that was on my property who then brought two baby. Like, I'm highly allergic to cats. And I was like, I am not bringing a cat in this house. Cats are in the house. So there's two. There's mama and her baby. And yeah, so two gorgeous black cats. My sister calls them the house panthers. I go, that's brilliant. So they're the house panthers. Horses. Do you like them? Love them, but highly allergic. Well, because I have a theory that the the thicker your hair, the more you like horses. Love them, but I'm highly allergic. My daughter, is it a great writer? She is, she's, she's knows how to tame the beast. What's a musical artist that your kids got you into? J call. Mm. I mean, yeah, it's good. Protein. How do you take yours? How do you get it? Sick. I mean, you set me up. You said protein. How do you take it? I wasn't even thinking that. What did I do? I wasn't thinking that either. I was talking about chicken. I'm talking about yogurt, green yogurt, thick, Greek sandy bull. Zero percent Greek yogurt. Very good. And that's what I was talking about. Like a good pulled chicken salad. And then, you know, the little peptide proteins in the coffee. I'm always trying to figure out how to get it. I mean, it's like, but are we going to find out like 10 years from now that we've overdone it? We've grown some like internal like eyes. Yes. And also, I always appreciate when it's like, what's another thing I'm supposed to get right? Like what is another thing I have to do? Good Lord. Um, okay. And then, um, wait, is this all of our speed around questions? It's so fun. Okay. Yeah. We're almost done. Here we go. We got to wrap this up. I'm not questioning you. Um, we get we have places to be and you have talked so much. Um, I know way. I apologize. I mean, when this question is over, I'm going away for another four years. I'm going from it. No, please don't. We love the year. Unless I come here. Unless I come now, just stop here once a year. I guess I'm going on or not. I just stop. I came out the wrong way. I mean, that you've had to talk so much. It's not that you've talked too much here. I love you talking here. And I've loved it. And so my last question for you is that I ask everybody is, um, what's making you laugh? Like what? But I mean, when you're like at home, you know, what's the thing that you are, you know, it, it, like, where do you go when you need to change the chemistry? You're wrong. That makes sense because you're so funny. It's like, it's like, nothing makes me laugh harder than Louis, my son, man, a few words, like, it's like, I don't know. I don't know. And he's like, um, yeah, his mumble is everything. And I can't, I can't understand a word. I'm like, how old is he? He's 16 and I have, I'm like, English. When he's standing there and he's, you know, no smile. And he's like, you know, you couldn't, can I, I'm going to have a milkshake. I was like, yeah, sure. And then I get up there and I go, my milkshake brings, you know, and I'll just start talking. And he's just watching it and then if he smiles, I'm laughing so hard whether he smiles or not. But like humiliation makes me laugh. Me too. If I can humiliate my children in the privacy of our home, not in public, but in the privacy of our own home, yes, with the little rump shaking. It's the greatest joy. But that's play. Like, you're just playing a play. Yeah. Yeah. And also it is, I mean, I can say this, but you can't, but like he, like, it's so funny to know that the entire world loves you, Sandy. They feel so connected to you. They've grown up with you. You are their favorite. And yet you cannot get your child to laugh. I cannot. I cannot. It's so funny and also a great healthy relationship. Yes. It's very, it's very healthy. Yes. That's, that's how you want it to be. I am just annoying right now to both children. I'm just annoying. That's, that's perfect. That's the perfect way you should be for any team. Exactly. But I, I, I just love talking to you. I knew I would. I didn't want to put too much expectation on us being friends, but I do feel like we've, but you know how nice this is for me. I feel like we're best friends. No, I mean, but I think that's not really, I mean, little ships passing the night, little, you know, but having the opportunity to meet you now at the stage of our life, yeah, is pretty amazing because everything is all over the place and we're all striving for different things and relationships and kids and dreams and things like that. But to be able to sit here and, and acknowledge like where we are and where we've been in that where I'm looking at you, just go on, I'm so glad you are that you just are. And I'm so glad that you have this, this world that you've created. So we get to come in and experience you in a way that we wouldn't be able to and you're like, you are, you are one of those that, those of us who love comedy, do they like the band and then come on, but you, you have to know that. Thank you for that to a great many of us. Thank you very much. So because it is, it is, it is, it's unmatched. The feeling is mutual, but just shut up and take the compliment for a second. So for you, you're allowing me to write back to you, then shut your face. So just, you know, one of us giving the present and one of us is receiving and I'm giving and you're receiving and you're not giving me a present in this conversation. Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot to me. I feel really grateful. And this is, I'm was very, I was a little nervous and I was a little bit, shit, I'm sorry to hear that. No, no, in a good, a good way because I was so looking forward to it. Same. I wanted to kind of temper my expectation because I was like, don't come on too strong. It's okay if she doesn't become your friend. She doesn't like you. It's okay if she doesn't like you. Most people don't just relax. I mean, just walking in and seeing you, you know, was like, I was like, did I just cross the boundary but I like throwing my arms around her face, you know, but I, I, I felt very safe here and you make people feel very, very, very, to me, that is everything. Sandy, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing it. And I adore you. So thank you so much. I adore you. Okay, we did it. Oh my god, that was so good. Oh, Sandy Bullock, you are just the best. Thank you so much for coming on that was such a delight to talk to you. And like, everything you do was moving and deep and funny and real and authentic, I just love talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I think Sandy talked a lot about the the care that she took of her partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS. And I think we spoke a little bit about care taking in general. And I guess I just wanted to take the second to reach out to anybody who's listening today, who are in thick of it, who are caretaking currently as we speak or know someone who is stretched thin, we're just sending our love to you. I know Sandy would feel the same. And she said some really amazing things here about making sure to take care of yourself along the way. So reminding you of that message and saying thanks if no one said thanks to you today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Sandy, thank you for all that you've done and the joy you've given us and continue to give us. And thanks for listening to Good Hang. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman and me, Amy Poler. The show is produced by the ringer and paperkite. For the ringer production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaya McMullen, Aleia Zeneres, Bridget Kearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman and Drew Van Steenburgen. 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