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Sal Vulcano Heated Debate vs Black Israelite & Rabbi

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Sal Vulcano Heated Debate vs Black Israelite & Rabbi

The podcast features a heated and intellectually complex dialogue between Salvo Conno and host Viral Flooring, centering on the "Black Israelites" movement, which claims African Americans are the true descendants of the ancient Israelites. Salvo argues this belief is unfounded, lacking historical or biblical evidence, and rooted in a dream by Frank Cherry, who faced legal consequences for spreading such ideas. The conversation delves into racial identity, religious authenticity, and the interpretation of biblical texts—particularly whether figures like Moses or Jesus were described as having dark or light skin. Salvo contends that the idea of "blackness" in biblical narratives stems from descriptions of red or hairiness, not melanin, and that Judaism is a religion, not a racial identity. Both parties challenge each other’s claims on DNA ancestry, historical facts (like moon missions or Jewish origins), and cultural narratives, including the role of race in religion and justice. Deep disagreements emerge on topics like reparations, interracial marriage, and the treatment of minorities. The discussion reveals a fundamental divide: one side sees the movement as a racial reclamation rooted in truth and history, while the other views it as a modern, often misguided, racial ideology. Despite the confrontational tone, both acknowledge the complexity of identity, history, and belief, and agree that clear definitions and mutual respect are needed to avoid dehumanizing claims. The episode ultimately serves as a platform for exploring how race, religion, and historical narratives intersect in contemporary society.

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast of today's guest we have Salville Conno and a black Israelite is going to be a special episode you guys can come on in now For today's co-host we have my manager viral flooring it in viral flooring Now I don't do repeat guests, which is why Sal is here and I wanted to kind of mix it and make it special So it's not a little boring in all that one So that's why Sal you know because of some of the things you've said online I wanted to sort of confront him with this a little bit and make it a special episode ah Hey Black Israelite Black Jewish No, Tizariak would be better I don't know how to pronounce that But regardless um just please each of you yeah keep that mic there for later purposes Please just introduce yourself in case anybody does you know you from the last episode maybe they didn't see it I didn't after you can tell them about the black people My name is Sal volcano And I didn't know you didn't have a repeat guest so I'm honored to be back on yeah, I kind of wanted to come after the last Please ignore my manager. He has a box of funny stuff. You got a brand new toy Go ahead. Talk about that. No, I should say I was also was gonna you know come back on because at the last time I just felt like you know, it was a weird interview and I want to come back on and just kind of Maybe make it right Unmore normal one. Yeah more normal interview. This would be more serious. I'll tell you that all right and go ahead Tell us I guess I'm sure most of the people have dealt with black people in their lives But if you want to just go a little more descriptive. Yeah, yeah, I'll see the bias already from my European counterparts My name is captain desire yaka via cvk under commanding Jenny Hanna. Are you speaking English? Yeah, what is that? I you just started speaking into like stuff. I said I am captain. You know what a captain is right? That's an English word you drive ships. No If a police chief said or somebody police officer said they was a captain. Would you think ships? No, I don't know It police. Yeah, the police. What do you think is policing the ocean? That's a good one. It's pretty good on your feet Look a black person. I just touched a white man's face. You see that Uh, we're not that bad. I was a big accomplishment like 300 years ago. Listen man. You just grew up Is this unleavened bread or this 11? I don't know what that means. I'm sure these are different types of bread Yeah, well made you put the bread up. Let me do you the bread. I won't be eating any of the bread. You're not gonna be eating the bread? I won't be eating the bread. Would you like any rape juice? No, I'm good. Uh, it depends if if is that's what this is the right juice is the right juice. You couldn't afford like Manage of it's nothing. It's a real wine. I'm confused me by using these words man. I figured you know that aren't you Jewish I'm formerly Jewish now. I'm a white man. How do you do fighting for white power? Wait, wait That's kind of regress because you changed your voice to speak. What I thought was Arabic. I thought she was Arab at first But you changed your voice to be more Jewish. So how could you Know to be more stern and serious You think that voice makes you more stern and serious. Yes. I sound kind of more like you to be honest, which I don't know how to So what I can it's like going to the gym What is this again? This is rape juice Okay, anyways, let's get into the question. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. It's asking for it That's kind of eliminated to the whole purpose of that. Okay. Okay. You vote then yourself He has the funny box. Okay. I see So you've said the movement began with Frank Cherry who claimed he had a dream Revealing that black Americans are the true Israelites. There's no evidence to support that It's a belief born from some man's vision with no historical backing. Wow. Go ahead. Can you just repeat my quote one more time? The movement began with Frank Cherry who claimed he had a dream revealing that black Americans are the true Israelites There's no evidence to support that it's a belief from some man's vision with no historical backing I said that that's what you said and can you explain why you would say that is that what you truly believe Okay, did I by the way, keep off your phone if possible. Yes Um, we're awesome. It wasn't me laying Um, I'm just trying to remember a place where I said that. I think it was at the uh I'm not asking where you said it. I'm asking you to go more in depth and then we'll let him respond. I said that the met gala The met gala. Yeah. Um, you know Like anything. He looks like he's dressed up for it Like anything I um, that required it. I seek, you know, I seek answers You know, uh, I'm curious about things Don't know you weren't seeking answers. You were making a stern point against black Israelites Smells pretty good. Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah, that sounded like a statement. What's tomato tomato on that? But uh, uh, it's not tomato tomato Tomatoes. Tomatoes. No good. You say it's a little scared of you in person. You know, if you say that it was fabricated as fake You you must have proof that it was fake well, I Just like any religion even like Catholicism or whatever. It's it started a long time ago and it's passed down Holorcism faith. What's that? It's Catholicism faith. Uh As far as the founders how they say they found it Catholicism is their faith. Yeah, I don't see I don't read it literally Read what I don't take what a literal sense of the Bible. So I do think that I'm talking about the Bible and talking about when Catholicism is um after the Bible So fucking wisdom you eat a might Yeah, he learned listen. Listen. Good job. Good job. Kiss my book. You talk about your brother though Just so you know, oh, did you google like did you google hot israelite phrases? Yes, clearly He got he got all the If hey if you get him to kiss your boot that'll be died. That'll be fine. You kiss my boots. Hell no Because our people did that or you can kiss my boot though. Yeah, you guys are already familiar. He's in your blood No, it's not what we that's how you what we got to get a familiar in your blood Nobody had what's better than your young blood Getting on your knees doing that that's a little weird something why young because you're young and age So it's better because I'm a minor I'll wait 18 now, right? No, I'm 17. Okay, no problem 17-year-old you can get right down there I won't go to jail if you better your knees and kiss the boot. Why do you want a 17-year-old to get on his knee? You want to do it? Cuz it's better to get the youth involved Glad to see what you're seeing you get to old and died ain't gonna be a spruce foot ain't gonna be a spry Yeah, you get him young. He's what you're saying, so well, I've been thinking college and cuz my joints Have been a little acting up a little bit, and I just got a full blood panel done. No, he's what you're saying about frank cherry Yeah, yeah, Frank cherry was a liar man because he they actually would teach if you actually did the research He actually went to jail for a teaching Um, that we were Israelites and that's making real. That's what I'm saying if you go to jail for something It's real. No, it makes fs cherry doing what he did real going to jail does not make it real Maximum criminal going to jail make it really wouldn't be because he makes him a criminal That's why getting killed dolly saying that that makes him a criminal Frank cherry went to jail cuz he's a criminal I don't know if I said that though. Well, that's what you're implying He didn't say now. He didn't say that this time one thing I do is I'll put the charge on you if you did it Thank you to Zarya. Thank you. No problem, but he didn't say that I said that he went to jail for teaching maybe maybe you should let everybody's boots You're gonna kiss his boots. I think you should be looking at his boots if you can't miss quote me. That's right Kiss my booty tonight This is weird saying that eat at eat a mic asking another eat a mic to kiss his boot You don't even know how to say you can't be need to my nask another you might lick your boot We're forming a bond here. I have a question. This one's okay. What's up? What's up? What's the good? How can people begin to take you seriously when you say your name is Captain to Zarya Giajawada? The same way we take anybody's language serious if I got somebody to name it they told me my name is Bajaba Choppa Bajamba Gangbang. I go come on man be serious with me. Oh, I know. You know what's not my name. Oh, that's not what that was. He knows him too. You don't have to know my name. You know you have to care about my name. It's just the Actions that you see us do people say people serious not based off their name but the acts was behind the person. The action behind telling people your name. I'm serious when you say somebody's name whether you could pronounce it or not whatever reputation they established by that name is what you think about them. If you Couldn't agree more sorry. It's his name. No, you disagree with him. You're the Obama's name. I agree with the name. I don't like a bomb. I don't like a bomb. I don't like a bomb. It don't matter. I get it to a bomb. It don't matter if you know how to say his name or not when you Say his name. If you say my name my reputation is what you think about whether you know to say it or not. This is a question for both of you. Do you support Interracial marriage for South and black. Say how you say that. South didn't black. That's the thing. But just let's remember Jesus was black. Moses was black. What are you saying black? You're this guy. He's talking about all the black. South doesn't agree the fact that Jesus was black in the Bible. South was Jesus Black. No, no, he got to answer the interracial question first. You interrupted him. So I was Jesus black No, you call me black when I got a name. So I don't mind that because Jesus was black So we're gonna say black Jesus black Moses black Azea black Elijah. We're just gonna say blacker from everybody was names Right. There you go. You can answer the question now. Okay, which question am I answering? Do you support interracial marriage? Yes, of course. You do? Yes, am I not supposed to? I thought well anyways, I guess go ahead. Well, you said you said the beta, but you didn't say I had to take the opposite stance of him I think he actually doesn't support interracial marriage. Oh, he does not do you know the Bible doesn't support it Oh, yeah, but I don't really live by the Bible. You know, I live by my own code of ethics. Oh, okay, and I you know I think the heart doesn't choose what it wants. Yeah, that's why I let a Bible the Bible say the heart to see for who can know it But the Bible God says we can only marry within our race. It's this new world test Old Testament, okay, forced by the New Testament because Christ said he didn't come to change the law or the prophets all right Yeah, am I at the point where you guys are gonna start claiming I black I'm black or not a little too recent you yeah like you Like you guys took Jesus and Moses, but you ain't black. I just said you're either Michael Jackson You're saying that now, but what will you Michael Jackson is definitely Michael Jackson? He might though Michael Jackson in black Michael Jackson is not black. Why? I could look at him when he died So you saying because he had lighter skin because he bleached the skin. They don't bleach your ethnicity Saul believes the white race is in danger. Do you agree? You said the white race is what? Saul believes the white race is in danger. Do you agree? Yes, I actually do agree that the white race is in danger because When you talk about abortions the reason why they were versed in The Roe v. Wade is because white women aren't producing their great white Right now having kids and you said we need to have more white babies produced. No, that's what y'all are saying I don't want y'all to I don't want y'all to have more babies. I believe the white race is in trouble Yeah, I believe as just as I believe every race is in trouble though. I think we need to come together Causing him to do that. It's not it's on your side. Yes, he represents you. Who is that to you? That's my manager, but today he's a black. He's a relative order. What's your ethnicity? You don't talk you don't want to talk about that. Go ahead finish what you're saying. Saul about the white I'm a little nervous right now. I've never done a podcast like this. All right He loves it though. Go ahead about the white race. He loves it though. Oh the white race. What would you like to know about them? Why are they in danger and how can we stop you know I'm a half-Hispanic. Yeah, I don't care either way I'm the mom's oh your mom's okay. So your father side is white Well, they're from your Italian. Okay. Yeah, I don't support the death of any human being But you don't really care as much as much as if it was a guy. Yeah, it's not it's not a matter. It's sitting down I don't support the death of any human being but if it was black people, you'd be more concerned with white people I'm I feel I think I think like a wipe it around. I think it's I think it's natural for you to care about your ethnicity first Okay, and then I don't know do you agree? I think I mean I see Well, I think he's being you know, I I get what he's saying get what he's saying Do you but but I I I come from a different place. I just I care about Humans every any human. It doesn't matter if you're a different race. I don't I wouldn't care to be on the board You're a fancy to right now. No, I wouldn't care about okay, I'll bring the bring in the rabies, please That's not to do a race though. Who is it? I'm bringing the rabies. Okay Now I heard a feeling unfortunately that Sal was gonna be a little bit scared on the black man here I mean, he's a little bit scary. I'm cheating closer to him, but like mold is just in case I got two rabies here to take him on I had one and then he canceled and then I tried to get another one But then I got two together and I felt bad to cancel on one of them. You got a case of too many raps I don't get it. We have two. You want to come sit? Yeah, yeah, I like the short words. I'm usually in a rush a lot of small hands. Pleasure to meet you. Where's the other rabbi by the way? They want both of us in the other rabbi. Oh, that's a big hat. He got a big hat. He got a big hat. I know it's tight I'm trying to get a small hat in a big hat. My students call me raps. Oh, yeah, I'm fucking hazard. I'm fucking hazard. Couserem. Couserem. Couserem. You looked up a lot of words before this. I didn't even get a chance to do that This is job to do research. Hi, how are you, sir? I'm Sal. Yeah, you got it. You got to put the count. So manachem and Brian. Yes. Yes. Yeah. One of us assimilated a little bit more. Okay Natural Jewish. Here we go. Define natural. We're not lab-made. No, no, mean it like Your dad your what y'all go about your mother, but are y'all Jewish like or y'all like American white? We are American Jews. Okay, so you're Jewish like from Israel. That's what I mean from like Israeli. Fuck him. I'm a Jewish American. My my parents are both Jewish. Okay. That's what I was asking. Yeah from Israel. My father's from Israel. I only said it because I'm an ex-dematurator. He said he wasn't He was in Jewish talking about me. Oh, he's a moderator. I'm not Jewish. Right. I'm formerly Jewish. Now I'm a white power So that's why I say formally. I don't even know you can do that, but you can't prince did something like that well I'm at this counterpoint because I'm yeah, but he was he changed. He was formally something. So I'm just trying to draw apparently He's formally prince. Yeah. Yeah, he just now the Jewish religion says that you can't convert out of Judaism Why does somebody who doesn't follow or practice it? I can do whatever I want Right, I think you actually most part any individual can do you can you can choose how you how you live your life, right? spiritual identity I heard you earlier talked about the father in the book of Numbers chapter one. It says I'm talking about that I think you told about me. Yeah. Yeah, it says let me show some of the base of us and we know it tribe you're from based off the father right up until Now it's not I everything was a coin to the father and then we changed the book of Ezra and Hamiya Changed the spiritual identity goes according to the mother. Yeah, everything else goes according to the father But but usually today everything goes to the spiritual identity That's a lot mission. Well, I mean a lie. I mean we could disagree No, that's a lie like you always according to your father. Oh, your father makes up the tribe the tribe correct the tribe I don't know what tribe. You're from whether you're a going whether you're serious Israeli. That's all by the father. No, well, there's 12 tribes of Israel. So you have That's all the time about a father, so you're raised by ethnicity is by your father. That's why you can't That you may not Intermarie that's true you say you can take their sons Marriage where you had said before Judaism is used to porting a racial marriage. Yeah, of course you would marry a non-June that that's interfaith not interfaith Okay, but that's not in a you know what I mean when I say that we're in a Torah. You can enter Mary No, you're not Deuteronomy chapter seven is a biblical commandment against intermarriage, but you just said that you said interrace What Judaism is not a race. It's a religion. So you have a like so now when you say that whatever you say with Judaism That's fine, but if we're going by the Torah, you can't enter Mary into ratio. You can't do none of that, but based on the Torah So I'll ask you a simple question. Mm-hmm. What verse? Where in where in the Jewish scriptures to say that you cannot Interracially marry not interfaith. Well, real quick. I have a question. Do you believe the Judaism? Is it like sort of an ethnicity as well? No, it can't be. Oh, you don't believe that. It's a it's a what about you rabbi with the hat I assume that's both wearing hats. You have the hat on here's a little evil thing on go ahead. They both either by the way you guys only They're both evil. I'm evil. No, the hats hats. What about the big one or just yeah, both of them why do they like your hat? They're not biblical. That's not in the Torah. Either that they come from Russia that come off the Russians just because it's not in the Torah Just because I'm working it makes it evil. Yeah, if you wear it like this this a head piece or a metri is in the Bible Ezekiel war a metri said put that tire upon the head and go teach the word You never said put a Yamaka or the Chief didn't hat. That's from Russia. So when you represent that as Judaism you're fine But when you represent it as a Torah, it's wrong We fundamentally disagree 100% but you can't show me that hat in the Torah No, there is no biblical. You're right. I believe in something called So we should have definitions. Oh, you got him there. I give a point to the black. We should we should have definitions made clear for example He talked when he said to the black he's saying black Jesus black Moses black and light well to be clear I don't think any of those people are black. They all black. I don't think a single one of them is black and neither the style by the way or these two Jews I don't think so. Do you think Jesus is black? Which one? You know, Jesus? He doesn't think Jesus Little East are a brown olive skin. Has anybody seen the dancing with the stars? But even the olive is black, you know, I don't think I'll have skin is still saying black He got you your knowledge he doesn't work What color people are Has no I mean that doesn't matter. That is diabolical to say when y'all created colorism What are you talking about? There's a new season of health kitchen that just started that is Don't try to cop out here. So we're gonna get you in on the debate When I say when I say y'all whether it's Jewish or Europeans which all eat them might y'all created race Y'all took Christ made and white when he wasn't if you do if you describe Like for example, Moses put his hand and his bosom took it out It was white when he put it back in it was black back screaming like is it the rest of his skin? He's really turning the dust bosom Yo, what does that mean? I forgot you a young kid, but you two intelligent So I know what you doing he took his brother bosom is this area bosom is this area Look, but he pointed right can't see the moderator's sleeping Why is it right? You didn't really put it that shit all over his hand shit is not usually white unless you drank a slurpee Well, if you did it a pipe you probably put in his ass though because y'all freaky like that I'm not gay or anything. Don't forget I say gay. I said freaky because you won't call yourself gay when you do freaky shit I'm not gay at all Yeah, they see you manage your agrees with me. I have a clarifying question you I'm sorry, hold on one second. I just I want to keep the interview flowing. I want to make sure that yes We're on a proper timing who here is the best at basketball What do you guys do? He's right in his hand You better at basketball You think you're better at basketball than this guy looks like Michael Jordan. I'm taller You taller than me. I'm a Jewish six - That's like I'm I must be a gala of eight nine or something like that You're not taller than me, but you know yeah, but didn't that guy lose the fight? Yeah, that was a bad analogy. That's the first one. I use a bad user is what you're saying. That's cat That's what you just told me. I've been winning this whole time You can't and now you compare yourself to a loser And his defense he was giving you points. It didn't say you won That's true. He did that now. He got a point that's the same thing did he give you points? You just got one He only saying that the one of me the moderator because he's biased. Did you get any points? No, well, we won at basketball, which you didn't win at basketball because we haven't played it anybody can talk So hold on a minute like how we're battling now, and that's how you get the winner hold on a minute you Hey guys are for the interruption have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Rougeette. Did you know that over 40% of men under the age of 40 have experienced some form of ED So if you want to stop being like Patrick And you want to start being like SpongeBob Then you should try Rougeette because it's not just an ED pill. 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You can only pick one Out of everyone out of the Jews here one two, but there's only one Jew here. And who is that me? Sailing torpedo question differently. He actually that's cool I'm not saying anything. No him I would this is like a riddle. I would kill myself. You're not Jewish though I'm not gonna I can't how can I how can I do that? I can't pick one only one to survive That's the question. Otherwise, they all die I'd lend you my hat. What's that? I'd lend you my hat. I appreciate that Are you making deals Jewish? Go ahead, Sal I really know how to answer the question. I don't want to let anyone down here, but I don't come from this position where I would eliminate anybody. So I guess I guess what everyone have to tell you you have to get you have to get rid of two of these Jews here And are you Jewish? Mr flooring Is he Jewish as well? No, he's not. Are you asking the black guy who keeps trying to tell you that he's Jewish even though he's black? I'm not Jewish. I'm a Jew. I'm a Jew. I'm a Jew. You're an African American. I'm not an African. How can you be two continents? Just break that down. There are there are possibly the dumbest question I've ever heard. Yeah What? How can I be African and American? Because you're from Africa, but you're American. That's a whole continent. I'm not from Africa Right. That's all that Africa is a big continent with like 40 countries and then Little villages and each of those countries. You know what that means Did you? Somebody says that European When I say you're from Africa, but you know, I'm not to be from Africa either Not African. I don't even like African. So which one of these guys would you keep alive? I For the sake of the who are they keep alive? Yeah, that's what you got to pick. That's the point. Everybody else died. I'm thinking of a number of it's in one attempt Let's pick it. Okay, you you would be stay alive. Thank you It's just a coincidence. Once I'm alive, can I pick another one to add to the living list? Shhh! Oh, style. Why did you decide to eliminate the other two Jews here? It was getting exhaustive Rabbi, how will the weather be tomorrow? We haven't decided Now look the other Rabbi answer. I don't think he gets it Hot. It'll be hot again. Why? That's what my apple weather channel told me Sal, did you know the first man on the moon was black? So was the man who made the telephone? So was the man who made the wheel? So was the man who made the radio? So was the man who made the Xbox? What's your rebuttal, Sal? My rebuttal? Yep. My rebuttal game crazy. What is it? What am I rebutting? I guess that all of those people were black according to him. Oh, so that's not true. It is according to him. I never said I don't know how to rebut that. If that's a fact Yeah, I never said no shit like that. Well, Google says the guy was white. Some of them were white. All of them were white I don't know why he on the moon was black. I would just fact check it, you know Why didn't the black man go to the moon? You said what? You're saying that nobody was black on the moon? Yeah, I don't think when they went to the moon any of those astronauts were black. Oh, you guys haven't claimed them yet? We don't we don't claim unlike white people. We don't steal something we didn't create. Uh-uh Yeah, what do we steal that we you guys took Jesus and Moses for one? No, y'all stole them That's a fundamental disagreement all past the conversation on to the rabbi with the house. I'm the moderator rabbi with the head go ahead. Was Jesus and Moses black? My question is why are we so stuck in this? Why does it really matter? That's part of his that's part of his whole religion, I guess. No, it's not actually We just followed the truth of the Bible But the only reason we have to establish the identity of anybody in the Bible is because Edomites or Europeans came and changed what they were. Why would you assume we're from Europe? Well, so you're from I remember Helen Thomas was a Speak news reporter Washington DC for like 50 years and she said y'all should go back home and they asked that They said where's home? She said Poland Russia and Germany. They find her that night So You guys from y'all are not originally from the Middle East. I actually have family from Spain We are originally from the Middle East but also Middle East but also my question to you is what he says Spain like that You lost the point without I have But how did the Jews get to Europe we just know the bigger question is how did I get to Israel? You know historically y'all wasn't looking for Israel first. You know, y'all went to Haiti. I went to South America Y'all was looking in Africa. Y'all was looking anywhere to go If you look at you go back to the bell for the act and all of that that y'all did That's why you had that one Palestine because you broke every treaty that you even had with the Palestinians There's a whole separate conversation It's you're asking how did you get this a y'all? it. Thank you. So y'all was in Germany, having war with another set of white people because y'all white, y'all they went to America fights for y'all and then they like where are we going to place these people. And so again, if you look at historical, it was going to place you in South America, it was going to place you in Haiti, it was going to place you in Africa. And then the Palestinians welcomed y'all with open arms, thinking that y'all was only going to bring a certain amount of people, thinking that y'all wasn't going to expand in certain other areas and then what the y'all do, like white people do, broke the treaties and just decided we're going to take more and more and more and more land from them. So that land was never yours. It's not the Palestinians either, but at least they was there before y'all got there. What you're saying is factually 1,000 percent false. If you look at any DNA. I developed a bill for that. If you did a DNA test of me, the language, the life, the coins, the Torah, everything shows that the Jews were there for thousands of years to suggest that we weren't. I would suggest why don't you go do a DNA test? I'll do a DNA test and we'll link that back in secret. But the white man owned the DNA company to compare his realies. So now I'm currently on tour with you, but when you say DNA tests, so the very people that took away the identity of black people, you want me to go to them to give me my identity. They're going to lie to you. And DNA and on the subject of DNA for your ancestry is not even accurate. You can only go so far. You can only go back so many generations. Why? Because like if you do a DNA for a child, that's live data for murder. That's live data. You can go back to certain generations, you can get live data. But at some point, it's just a guess. I'll give you a checkmate. If you look at the Kohanam, if you look at the priests, and they're white chromosomes, they have a very unique set of white chromosomes bundled together. It is unique to them only and it goes back over 3000 years to one common present. And who said that? Who said that is? Who gave this information? The same the same Jewish people that lie is the same Jewish people that you think are going to be honest. That's why when I'm talking about DNA for ancestry, I'm not even being biased about Jewishness. I'm saying DNA for ancestry itself is just not reliable to go back 3000 years. We can't have a conversation of every time we say something, you just say that we can't prove it even though we can, and yet you haven't proved anything. Well, you're just making big bolts. To be fair, hold on. He has an unbeatable argument because every time you present him with fax in evidence, he claims it's from the white man. So how can you beat somebody who doesn't accept any sort of proof? You got him. I don't know. You won't pound that one because I got him. No, no, because I know I know what you were doing. I mentioned the belt. The treaties that y'all signed with them. I'm going to believe them. That's also fax. That's also fax. What I said about DNA, what I said about DNA, the fact that they were Jews there. I didn't deny. I didn't deny that. Who were the first? So when, for example, when I was in Israel, there's a section of in Israel where Israelites of my hue never left Israel from the exile when the Romans invaded Israel in 70 AD. So I can make that claim because I went over there. I interviewed him. I have it. If I need to, oh, I can't, I can't grab my phone, but I have the information. So what we're talking about is you, you guys converted around 600 AD to Judaism. And it's no different than when white people believe that daddy Americans, when you have the native indigenous people that was here first. Oh my god. Okay. This, I don't even know what he just said. I was eating the bread. Go ahead. Everything. Fucking that bread up. That you just said it's so factually just wrong. It's not. It. Okay. You are. Okay. First of all, you call this etamites. That, that comes across as the children of Asav. Who? Isah. Isah. Yeah. So, so, so that's who I am. Yes. All white people come for me. So what? I'm trying to learn. This is this is nuts. This is absolutely nuts. So no, no. All I would say to you is it's very simple. Unites seems like you believe in the veracity of the Jewish scriptures. That's right. Of the Israelites scriptures. Yes. I do. Okay. So all I would ask you is very simple questions where in the 29,000 verses of the Jewish scriptures from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Malachi. Does it say anything that you just claimed? That's far as y'all being etamites. As far as, again, what color people were. It doesn't matter. Jews. It's not. If color didn't matter when Isah was born, was his color described in the Bible? Yes. It's very rare. You can't say color. You know what you say? It's very rare because it doesn't describe the color of any other child being born, but it does. It's like being black. But what color was it? You know why I don't have to describe? What color does it say? He was in the Torah. It says he was red. Are we red? He was red. Are we red? He was red. He was red and hairy all over. He was red. He's dressed like a red. That's you guys. We're red and red. We're talking about red. They're talking about being flesh and blood red. It's talking about with y'all. The color that y'all get. And you know why I described Isah and not no other race because every other race had melanin. Y'all with the first people born that did not have the melanin makeup that everybody else. I'm trying to study the Torah. Red is lack of melanin. Yes. That's what color comes out of lack of melanin. Color comes from melanin. If you have a lot of melanin, you'll be dark. If you don't have a lot of melanin, you'll be light. You know melanin is yellow is red. No, if you let me out. How do I look? You can be albino, which would be wider. But the bigger point is when Isah was born, the reason why the description of him was described was because before he was born that color in that color did not exist as far as okay. And your color, the Caucasus or mountain man that comes from the Caucasus mountains was born red and hairy all over. And what else did it say? It said he would live by the sword. And that's how white people live. Y'all are bombing the hell out of the Palestinians because y'all live by the sword. America lives by the sword. That's how y'all live. So this war, this war, one of us will say sword. No, I like saying this war better. Are you suggesting that that had the Palestinian had Hamas, I should say, had Hamas not done what they did in October 7th. The Jews would have gone in there and did what what they did. I'm saying some a little different than that. What I'm saying is that the Jews never started or if y'all would have held to the treaty that shall agree with the Palestinians, what I'm saying is y'all might not even have had October 7th ever. There are zero Jews in Gaza. There are two million Arabs who live. There are two million Arabs living in Israel. There are Arabs on the Israeli Supreme Court. It is the opposite of what you're claiming the Jews do. Everybody is welcome. Everybody when black people from Chicago went to Israel when they when they went to Israel. Y'all they all did not accept them. The only way y'all accepted them was if they allowed their kids to be a part of your military. And then even when they did that, y'all tried to export them but export a deport. Y'all tried to deport them. So when you say y'all accepted and everybody that's just not true. Y'all don't accept the Ethiopian Jews. Y'all don't accept them all. Are you kidding me? Of course we accept the Ethiopian Jews. You don't. I said all. I'm very clear on what I'm saying. So when you say y'all accept Jews and like, where are they like us? Where do they fall? Well, if they're Israelites, they're like us. If they're actual Ethiopians, then they would be like you. We're talking about where I'll read. I don't even think he might be too slow to get one. Quick question around the table just so we can talk about the belief in you want to establish that Are you guys pro-Israel? Yeah, I'm going on a bath Zionist. How do you feel about it? Your own fellow Edamite is not pro-Israel. How do you feel about that? Feel about what? I'm not being pro-Israel and he's a Israelites. I'm not going to need a body. I'm a coup d'arris. People have different different tastes. A lot of different outlooks and I know that I'm not going to agree with anybody and that everybody's going to agree with me and that's okay. Right. Agreed. First of all, I don't want anybody to die. This isn't about death. Didn't you say you hated the Arabs? No. That's what I heard. And this is just a legend. I heard that he was high on drugs. I'm just saying. Which drug? We're just calling. I heard you are high on drugs. I didn't research. That's what I was told. No, I just I just arrived shortly after you. I'm not pro-Palestinian. Okay, what? So who are you pro? You're just you just want them to kill each other so you can criticize them and go look look at all the funny white people killing each other. - No, it's like, it's black. People don't do that all the time to each other in Chicago for example. How is it a light? No, so my position Did you know black on black crime is a majority of the violence is relied boom. I got a point as the moderator I'm actually glad you said that yeah 49 to 50 million black people and they 15% like we're 15% yeah, that 55% that we so-called murder each other even that's a lie Because that's just out from the white down. Well first of all when we I was I was actually on a live stream And when we talking about numbers remember we're getting the numbers from the FBI. Those numbers could be true Those numbers could be false, but what those numbers represent are arrests. They don't represent convictions We want to flip it the other way. Oh, but here's my point the most exonerated So what that means is the same black people that are getting arrested for crimes also getting released from jail for crimes that they didn't commit Why because you had stopped in frisk? Yeah, false arrest. There's a ton of those things that happen to black people all the time So if you're going by the numbers, what is stopping frisk after doing that? We're violent crimes. I'm gonna tell you because when they're arresting people and saying they Committing them violent crimes. They won't really they're not always committing those crimes Someone else is someone else is committing the crimes now does that mean that black people don't kill each other? No, it does not and a higher-rated white people Sure, and they don't know. Well, I think actually Kirk how you feel about that? Charlie Kirk said I would want to give you one example. No, I'm not I'm not finished The data Charlie the data Charlie Kirk died a little white 16-year-old kid shot up a kid school in Colorado Then three days from that a white guy shot and killed three police officers and then two days after that Everybody he's under the impression that a majority of school shootings happen from Despite that when you look at the violent crime rate the white people are not making up a majority of it Rabbi the red one over there. No, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's you try bring up Charlie Kirk and doing You know, you know, and when they get interrupted out of moderator, you'll keep in a row. I'm not the moderate. I'm a debater. Are you debate? No, I'm a moderator. He's the moderate. Okay, so since he don't talk at all. He's keeping it calm. So crime America would have a better way to communicate if they just called it crime not black not white just crime That's not how that works though. I mean, they're just you know, I don't like that because He's right. You know what I mean? No, okay, if you go back into the 70s, hey, that didn't want them, but that that's not what I'm talking about When you dealing with crime if America treated it as just crime, there wouldn't be me or you Picking sides as the who's worse or who's bad it would just be crime But for political reasons and because America is race driven That's why they put make it a black and white thing. It don't have to be a black and white thing. I don't want to spend No problem. I want to keep switching the topics. So do you think white people should get reparations for slavery should give or get get Get they're the ones who lost the property there. Am I wrong? What do you what do you what it what's the question that they get back? They get back what it doesn't seem like we're gonna be able to give white people slaves So should we give them an amount of money to make up for it? Because the future generations of white people have had less than their ancestors because of this law No, I'm in the camp against slavery. I'm not asking to bring back slavery. I'm asking if the white people should get paid since they lost their slaves No, I don't believe that that should be the case now and do you think that black people should get reparations so they can buy an Xbox? Is that what that what you think they will buy with the reparations? I took a poll I said if you guys got reparations go to buy it. Yeah, well like I used because you can get a game stop it depends how much right now You can get the last version like gently used at a very better like a better price Generally use version or the new one Not from reparations, but if I was at the store, I would get the new one. See, she's already he wants a new one Yeah, if you're a gamer you're gonna go for the new Not really made a lot of the technology, but if you're a casual gamer You might want to take a nice discount on an older model. It's lightly used gently used if you're a gamer You're gonna go for the new processing power right want the latest ingredients, but if you get your reparations and you want to spend If you're not a gamer like that and you maybe want to go for like maybe a the last generation model You got the holidays coming up. You might be able to get a couple of use games in a bundle. They do bundles So in general, do you support reparations for whites? No, I would say no. What about for blacks? Did we promise them that? What is that matter? Well, I'm especially one of the matters. I'm waiting to lie. I'm not against that You need a mate. I expect you to show your need a mate. You're not Says who says the item might says my daddy says the item might let's move on He's a simple man your manager. Yeah, I'm leaving over it. I was liking the toys in the race cars I've got Patrick over this bunch of up. I told you he was gonna bring his fun box. Yeah He's on your side by the way, so you shouldn't laugh on it. He negotiates contracts. Are you that him? He's a genius He doesn't bring me a single contract. He's a genius Should it be allowed to shoot somebody with a hard pun through the chest? We'll start with the Jews No Also, no If that's the weapon you got to defend yourself absolutely Why the chest specifically? Hold on in let's not answer. Can you give me some context or some color on that like what's the scenario because he's I'm being attacked. No, it's hilarious. I harp him to the chest is funny. That's what I'm saying. It's gonna rip through that Yeah, it's okay to have a little If I'm being attacked and I have a harpoon. That's what I'm saying Not for defense because it's funny. You know, he's a gangster by the way. I wouldn't do it. That's why I preface and I said if you Defend yourself. That's the only time And by the way, I wanted to ask why are all of the impractical jokers white men, huh? Why aren't some of them black? He's relies Yeah, no, no, cuz what's the defunniest joker on the internet is I can't even remember his name. I'm talking about his show specifically. Oh, okay Okay, shut up then. Drusky show You just picked him cuz he's black. Come on. You said they're only white so I had the name of black He's the funniest one. He is the funniest. Why cuz he's black? No cuz this shit is funny if he can do white face He's able to do black. Yes, you should let me Exactly listen when trapping so should stop wait when trapping thunder came out and Robert Downey Jr He played that black guy that shit was hilarious. It was a nice generation. It's too sensitive. Yep Robby should you ever done black face? No, I don't know what that is Come on. It's in the name black face Putting making yourself look like a gangster. No So you put on black face and your gangster you can still be a wimp if I put on black face It's like you would look like a wimp. No, well, that might be true But I disagree when I want to do it not to be funny like Robert Downey Jr But it's sort of a defense mechanism. So instead when I'm walking on the street people are crossing to avoid me Right, but if you just coloring your skin, you don't look that I'm gonna be the scary one Yeah, that's you scary now like when you was coming down the street. I'll say oh, hey, oh, oh, I get the same impression Salah, I guess would you do black face would I do it? Yes, have you done it? No, would you do it? No What if this black guy gave you permission? No? Is he too sensitive? No, he's has a choice to not do it. Do you think it's funny? No Would you do some other story? It was funny when Druski did it so you got to kind of accept it I think Druski can do it if I can do it. That's my thing. I don't I'm not offended by what he did Yeah, back in the days like we wasn't offended because it's comedy Like it's not now if you out there trying to see if Druski was out there trying to seriously do something They may be I can see my I'm a pretty serious guy. I wouldn't do it for calm. I don't believe that But because he's doing any comedy is accepted like when Robert Downey Jr It was comedy when the Wayne's kids did a white chicks. It was comedy But in today's time Everybody's so sensitive about what words you could say when you can't do this you can't do that That's why everybody's so sensitive about it back in the days It wasn't when I say back in the days maybe like the 90s up until now. It wasn't that sensitive You seem to be pretty sensitive about the whole color thing in the Bible I'm just saying that it's color in the Bible No, where does it say where they're in worry for example? Oh, oh, is that in the Bible? Thank you have me You're leaving no, no, no, no, no, it's just just I'm just happy to be I just don't like I don't need to be Wait till the end to be too grateful. Yeah. I'm just appreciate it. No, just just for some and that's why I'm going to say the Sessing so we all just go so glad I'm here for this self Very unbiased the Torah is written in Hebrew. Yeah, I believe when we was outside you heard me say I believe from Genesis the revelations So the end word is in the New Testament when it described the disciples in Acts 13 and 1 it called them Announced as we would say the end word and it just means black you want them to say it right now just so we know That's why I'm not saying so so so when we're having a discussion I think it's important to understand that you and I agree in the Jewish scriptures everything So for example if a Mormon came up to a Christian and said hey, I believe in the veracity of the New Testament But now there's something else every Christian would rightfully say well if we believe in the New Testament Then you have to show me Joseph Smith from the New Testament, so what book do you stop it? What I would say is We have to show me Jesus in the Jewish scriptures and then we could talk about the Testament Do you stop that after Malachi? Do you keep Hanukkah? I keep Hanukkah, so that's after Malachi That's right. So okay, then so do you keep the book of Macabees? Yes, so if you're talking about Deuteronomy 4 Do you keep the book of Macabees? Yes or no? We don't when you say keep we keep the oral law the written law What I'm asking you if you keep Hanukkah Hanukkah is in the book of Macabees. That's right. Okay, then so do you read that book? I mean, it's a no, I don't it's not part of you don't you can't okay? This is when we say the white man is a devil because he say He don't keep nothing after Malachi, but then he said he celebrates Hanukkah, which is in a book after Malachi I didn't say I didn't do with the devil. I don't say why the white man would be a devil. The world devil means just means to see what he's saying I don't know why he anything After by the way, the the Bible itself refers to Hanukkah in Leviticus 23 it talks about all the Jewish holidays It's about the eight-day celebration when Matatias went to war with the Greeks and won the war they had a eight-day celebration That's why they like eight candles. They have uh the eight candles that they like for it And that's in the book of Macabees. So that's a book outside of Malachi So when you say you stop at Malachi, but you celebrate Hanukkah, he's got a lot to do So my point in saying that is It's different price and the disciples wrote they were Israelites too So that is a part of the israelite history too. Okay, and in Acts 13 and 1 when that end word is used It means black. It's from the Latin word that just means black and that's what they call the Israelites in the New Testament Okay, so they call the Israelites black in the New Testament. Then that means that's what they were No, okay, what's everybody what's everybody being for Halloween? I don't celebrate how do you celebrate Halloween? No, I'm gonna be Michael Jordan And I'm doing a very realistic version. You gonna dunk the ball? Well, you don't play basketball now He did with white women though so you ain't got to change that so you don't like Michael Jordan because he deals with I didn't say I didn't like Michael Jordan. I'm asking you No, I like Michael Jordan. Okay Anyways, uh, go ahead I don't think they're gonna be able to dress up because they have that and hide on This is the costume Works every year definitely is a costume you could we have we have the honey that we dress up I don't I look fly. I don't have no I haven't had no problem in the women's department. I couldn't pull it off Hey, man, you gotta have some flavor. I mean, it looks it looks You look like you're like level 100 in raid shadow legends, but you don't know It's just a mobile game. I'm saying you look like you're from a mobile game. You're like the final you're like the second final boss Yeah, I was just saying the best possible way you do look like a final boss the best possible Yeah, everybody's trying to do Fight to get to that final boss, you know, but you don't look like somebody I would meet inside of a building look like I get one He said oh, he said there was cold. That was fine. Well, I was gonna call me a final boss. Are you all right? So you got a fight to get to me Yeah, but then I'm gonna pass it out when I have to after he heard that he's not he's not the moderator Why are you trying to get him involved with it? He involved listen. He was fine. Oh Hey, that's almost I say, hey, if I could just respond to it When it comes to keeping the Torah as Orthodox Jews, we don't keep the written law per se we keep the interpretation of it called the oral law Tell do you think African Americans otherwise known as the real Jews should be persecuted and Black do you think style should be persecuted? You want me to go first? I'll go first. Oh No, I don't think anyone should be persecuted What is that? No, what is that? No, I do not want South to be persecuted. What about those two? Do you think you should be persecuted? I don't want. Oh Do you think he should be persecuted? No No, nobody should be persecuted. Right. I don't think we're all equally the children of God No, we're not all the children of God, though, but I don't think you should be persecuted though But we're not all the children of God. We're seriously destroyed God never said we was all the children of God We are all equally People of every there's no way to buy raise my class. I am not equal to him It's insulting that you would imply that, but you're homeschooled now. Well, I wasn't for a majority of all of us the way He did perfectly then why couldn't that guy speak English of that? It's above my pay grade so then I proved your wrong point for the moderator It seems like he agrees with me. I don't think we're all equal. There's no such thing as equality in the bible It don't exist. I'm not referencing the bible. I'm referencing real life and real life and real life Nobody is equal. Somebody has to be over somebody. That's how you have order If we're all equal, nobody can tell nobody what to do So there's no such thing as that's a conversation then equally loved by God. We're not all equally loved either oldest and In the bible we got in your Torah in Amos does he not say you only have I known of all the families of the earth Could I ask you a quick way? Can he answer that first? I can. Yes. I know that God say that By the way, you're quoting the same book that says that the Jews will be brought back into Israel never exiled again And which is what you see right now with the Jews it says Israel. So where's Rubin? Manessa God and that's Daly Where are there are tribes that we don't know where they are so then that then that prophecy ain't fulfilled yet then So now can you answer my question does he say he only knows Israel in that book of answer? He only you only have I known of all the families of the earth That's what it says yes or no when when you when you ask for a verse and not context for example when people talk He's talking about punishing us. That's the context of that verse because he only knows us out of the family. I think a Beyonce's country album I'm just asking for a yes or no, didn't he say that? Yeah, the new one now Beyoncé is in Israel. I think Definitely Beyoncé is a usually like What is your one of yours? I was okay. Okay. That's not one of yours I think stautomire is one of yours and just for the record when I say one of yours When I mean like Judaism to belief not the ethnicity because Beyoncé doesn't call herself a Israelite I'm saying that because we say black people are Israelites all all sorry just clarification all black people are Israelites Yeah, but not like a African black Oh, I don't I think it's interesting because when you meet African people they're they don't like African Americans and when you meet these African Americans They don't like the African people who's right here Well, we're more right than them because our reason is twofold you're more right than them. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you okay Then then my name's for the speaking and what you call libonics. No, I didn't put no S on that one twofold one their handmites we're not Handmites which she might Yeah, and then biblical and she gave me and then historically they sold us in slavery I did not allow to make money all of a sudden they can do whatever they want, but I don't have to love them or affiliate with them Well, I wouldn't make the argument nobody tells the Jewish men who affiliate with Germans right Well, I would argue If a Jewish man didn't want to associate with a German, that would maybe not be the best thing No, but if he says I don't want to associate with a German everybody would say I get where you coming from I don't think that would be the general response actually and plus I think people do understand that That's why you still lock up listen they will lock up let them find a 90-year-old German They had anything to do with world war two. I think you know But now you're changing the goalpost you went from German to German in world war two I'm just showing an example of when Jewish people have an offense or don't want to get along with Germans. It's understandable So I just said he didn't understand I just said he's not understandable You know that the German government is like the biggest ally of Israel. We're incredible By force yes, I'm not I don't disagree with I was about to start arguing on your side Then you had to bring it up again, but then but go ahead. He gets a point. I was separation from the Africans is because of that That's all I'm simply saying to judge I've led two trips to Germany where I've met children of not for the most incredible human beings I've met And to hold them accountable for what their father did would be inappropriate There's a Bible hole that still the sons of the fathers accountable. It's a Ravens off to a one-and-four. It says that that that is bad I got I got a lot of Jackson and Darry Henry on my phone. Oh, you double done Well one league but another league on four and one, but that league on light three and one talk to you guy right here First round picture March 8th. So I'm bad, but I got Joe Flacco though. No, no, no, yeah, that's a cleaver. No, no, since in that he just traded for Joe Oh, do they really well? They got to do something about Brownie because he cannot and they got to protect them because he older than burrow So they might get sacks and all kind of shit I haven't got Bucky Irving in a second round. He's been out for a couple of weeks too, so we'll see. I think Nicola Yoki is the best basketball player of all time The Torah does say that if you do something negative You'll be held accountable the only time the Torah says it three or four generations because most people are raised by parents They see their grandparents and if you're lucky enough you'll see a great grandparents And if you saw that your grandfather was a bad person and you repeated what he did You're held more accountable because you know how much it hurts people It's the only time that the Torah makes that reference in terms of being held accountable. Yeah, Isaiah 14 and 21 says prepare slaughter for his children for the Iniquity of their fathers. Shalom Same idea No, no, it was prayer slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers, meaning what they fathers did the children are gonna pay for He's doing he bonnic again Well, what do you bought that time? I don't understand. How are the things you say? Half a million? Instead of that accent shit you got going everybody knows what I'm saying. I think that you're sincere And I think that if truly if you study Hebrew and read the he was Isaiah and the entire Jewish scriptures In Hebrew you would see a very different translation There's a reason so I read it. You know what I'm saying is I can read the he was I read it But you don't understand it perfectly you know how you know I'm better at understanding you you need another book to understand a book You tell me I got to read you need two books. I only need one. I don't need to tell move You need two books. You need one Does that make you better? So if you only read it, I'm definitely superior doesn't any second book You lost the point at like two like like five weeks ago in a debate when you tell somebody that you're superior Right. How are you also saying that that's not racist? What what I like to say that you're superior to another race to think that I'm better than somebody is wrong Well, it would be racist. I mean what it what if I mean let's say if it was a black guy and I said I'm better than you or I'm superior to you Because he's no it would never be racist. I told a black person I mean I know it wouldn't so that everything you're making everything about race No, I asked about the feast is you made about race and I just said not right now being Calm down. It's not about race. I need to relax and I said I'm superior Cuz I know and why did I say I'm superior because I don't need two books I can read the Torah and the most high gives me understanding you said the most high don't give you understanding That's why you got to read to maybe our discussion's can be based on the Bible alone That's true, but in terms of knowing how to action the Bible my message. No, I still only need you You it's impossible when you take out a given analogy when you buy No, you don't I don't believe in God. No, how can you tell me what I believe because you just said the most high won't give you to Understand it of the Torah. No, I told you before the way that God created things Was he created an imperfect world for us to perfect if you take out a newspaper a New York Times newspaper and you read the headlines You get the idea, but if you want to understand what happened you need to read the body of the story what actually happened It's all written. No, it's not the rim are the headlines to understand how to action the Bible in terms of the He wanted this man, you're getting what you wanted man complaining complaining. I have a headache from all of this Because it's like Hebrew ebonyx We fall to listen to your wack ass English for hundreds of years. Hey man learn it You say how you learn to change your voice you can learn this ebonyx. I don't want to learn your ebonyx I learned to change my voice to be taken more seriously. Yeah, I don't want to sound like a gangster You look like a gangster. Anyway, Jewish now. I don't want to follow up on that. I'll believe that too. So does he look like a gangster? He looks gangster. No, no, thank you. Thank you. Just said you look like a gangster. He's actually pounding on that. He put a low ebonyx on it. Learn it. I can say gangster too, but if I change, I'm not even gonna go to Thank you perfect race car because he's running I did have a question for you just generally you think that the black people are the chosen people, right? They're the best We could be the best. Let's know what I'm asking. I'm saying like just generally. Yeah, if you're the chosen people of God You were created to be the best. Okay, and you I imagine you want you would want laws passed eventually to help subsidize distinctions when you say like American laws Generally laws in multiple countries. If that's God will in your opinion, right? No, no, no, no, actually no I it's a little simpler than that. All I would like is just for my people to Repent from their sins or beta most high and then we can build and reestablish our own communities and then the only thing But at the top of society you would want black people Yes, now let me ask you a question Why how and what God though? When at what point do you think that could happen? I who would ever get behind that besides black people God will get behind it Which is my point so and and we I guess that's an un arguable position on my end So I guess you have to I just don't believe that historically that that's true No, it isn't a visual was in captivity in Egypt and they pray to God God sent Moses and historically true That the top of society is African Americans and I'm not being racist. I'm just being honest. No, nobody's Salah agrees Nobody's seen the twelve tribes being in that position except when we got in Jerusalem That's why you saw she will come to Solomon to get there wisdom why because Israel was at the top Why do we fall for our disobedience? So our job is to get them back to being obedient to God and then we win So what's your response? I'm just impressed on the strength of people's opinions I'm not this opinion needed on and well, I guess you they believe it's factual I'm a much more go with the flow guy, so I feel like I'm caught in the crossfire here, but I can appreciate everyone's sentiments So you're like Jewish black Jewish black. Who do I agree with like that? Everyone here seems like really really great people Despite despite despite a posing Seem like it seemed like kind people, you know, I don't really want to get you know mixed up in the cross You're just standing on the fence when you take either side. That's right when you talk about the chosen people God is right my name is Brian Borensin, right? Nobody nobody God didn't say Brian Borensin. You're chosen Jews don't believe that were the chosen people doesn't say that anywhere in the Jewish scriptures God offered the Bible to everybody everybody said no The Jews are the choosing Stories of SpongeBob. We chose God and then he says Responsibilities, but no Jew would ever say that we're better than anybody else. We don't believe we're If you keep the commandment, you would be above all nations that we are a priestly nation and a light unto the Bible say does Does God say if you keep the commandment, you would be above all nations? No, not fun go you don't say that how are what are you in do the run of me 28 are you say our reserve and keep the Lost that your commandment. You would be above all nations on the earth. That's what it says the way that you're Contextually what you're what it sounds like is that you say that we will rule over people. I didn't even get to rule in part But they're my correct with your you're talking about your self. I'm not talking about myself Listen to some misconstrued wait before before you say that I just want to say just to finish really quick I'm trying to free his mind. I need to free his mind. Give me what's so basic my mind. No, his mind Edamite there are different you can look up to someone So if somebody is someone who you want to strive to be your parent your father your garden you look up to them right so we are a Light above the nations we strive to be onto the nations. We strive to be good people so people could look up Oh, we have feeling that the good part like that, but what I'm saying here's what I'm saying what I said I wanted to free your mind. I'm not talking about me when I'm when we have sometimes when you have conversations with Scriptures I'm only talking about the Scriptures. That's why I say did God said I didn't say that I say So in Deuteronomy 28 and 1 it says if you keep these commandments you would be above all nations on the earth Now when you go to later versus like I said Which I'm going to be there, but I'll get that part, but that verse God Couple days you'll be above Because I feel bad about the whole situation or it says above not exactly But with every I just don't do repeat. Yes. I have to bring in some new people Now here's what I would have been messed up because I want to help you Especially above comes into play. There's an above like the Bible Proverbs says when the righteous on authority the people rejoice when the wicked on authority the people want So there's an above that can bring about With painful with slavery, etc. Like that. Like what you're gonna get some your agents on and then there's a righteous way to rule It's not tyrannical. It's not slavery. So y'all ruling with slavery When Israelites rule it won't be like that That's the difference because Jewish people had a hand in slavery too So oh my god Africans brought them to the white man. I don't argue that like I'm honest here Story I ain't got the live butter. He's in the only story in your talk I'm saying they're unfortunately there were Jews involved but it wasn't Jewish yeah you know shones companies The ships you know why shones companies started because slaves was cargo and they wanted to get paid If any of them I'm slaves died on the way why would you want to pay for one of them if you got banks? You pay for an Amazon package if you don't get your order one of the first Jewish slave slave masters was in North Carolina Yo, y'all was dead too. That's why you know it tripped me out when white people want to be separate from Jewish people y'all the same white man The same y'all just a crimp to the crimp of their way the most ridiculous first all you I'm not saying you are racist but man the way you talk is crazy I'm not looking up the yellow crap no it's no y'all the crimp to the crimp of your white tribes There's what I'm saying now not me what people do now for example in Israel is there equating Israelis to the way that people want to White people in America and they're saying that the Israelis and the Palestinians like the brown poor brown people being oppressed right If you went to Israel you noticed that most people who live in Israel Migrated right there are people who are indigenous that we could trace back for thousands of years And there are people who move from Iran said Eurebia It's to say that Israelis are just The white strong Israeli like him is just a pure lack of Your knowledge, but you don't use that your that term really is really it's just it just seems like a lot of Enched and and dislike toward other people coming from you as opposed to if you're saying that you are Representing God wouldn't that be more about inclusivity not we're No, it's okay Everyone the Torah when it talks about when it talks whenever God talks about people. There's a beautiful love between people The utopian world the messian the messianic era in the messianic era when you If you want to know the messianic prophecies for example look at ezekiel chapter 37 the valley of the dry bones, right? You'll see the messianic prophecies But what are the things that you'll see you'll see universal peace on earth you'll see universal knowledge of God We're talking about without war first. Yeah. Well, that's that how it comes about is the debate war first is a debate There are different opinions one opinion is it's you against your own ego and overcoming your ego because most bad things come from the ego There are different interpretations of things but when you look at things in terms of the messianic era and things like this It's all about peace love Where so Jewish people people of all faiths atheists Muslims Christians. We're all gonna get along. It's something called the uncomfortable truth Right, and so I know why when I'm saying the things that I'm saying and you say it comes across as racist I want to move to the next topic. Can I get 20 seconds? No, it's okay But he's the white man's the boss. I am by the way if you want to promote for black power and I can't do white power I said black power. By the way, it was sorry to say white power. I mean, we've heard it for hundreds of years. Go ahead, Charles What's that? White power You know, I want to be a good guest. Okay, but it won't bother me. So it won't bother me If you I ain't saying it for you to say it, but I won't be bothered. Sorry. I'm not gonna say that at all. Appreciate it Save my name perfectly Yes, I want to do a little thing at the table here. Maybe it'll give us all on the same side We'll start we sell then we'll go to you then we'll go to you guys rank all of the races from worse to best Starting we sell I'll actually answer as well after the Jews Uh number one would be the human race. No, not a fucking cop out You call a cop out this is this is where I my stance. That's your true stance the human race I don't know little deeper into that then listen. I'm giving you um, you know, I'm giving you I'm speaking my truth Yeah, like this is what I believe okay fine. Now you I would say the Jewish tribe Then the rest of his eat in my or American brothers. They're all tied. Yeah, that's one a one b So you That's why I say try because they're the same reason so you think that like a white person from Ah spain to you is the same as a Chinese guy No, I don't think I would look at them the same. No, same level of ranking from races No, because the Chinese haven't even well if he's living either the worst you're saying so if he's living in Spain He I wouldn't I couldn't rank him because I don't have no interaction in America. I'm ranking primarily from America No, I'm saying the whole world here If I was to do the whole world, I would do like silence just say the humans Okay, what about you guys? Let them race Was that upon or something crack a pool cue throw in the middle let them fight it out Can you shoot? I'd rather do the pool cue What about you? I shot pool last Saturday I won six straight. I only got off the table because I was going I hadn't shot in a while, but it started feeling good when I was shooting We should all go play pool together after this. We just celebrated the Jews near Russia China And there's not one there's not one prayer in all Russia. No about the Jewish people Everything. It's about the creation of Adam the man It's about human race all of us equally. Russia. China is all about humanity. You go to a Christian Judaism or something. No I'm a traditional orthodox Jewish rabbi And we're all equal that's right. They call me rabs. That's right. That's right This is a good at this is this is better than I thought I imagine everybody has thought it would be on serious All right, not just been a little bit of both serious funny serious serious. I just wanted to make sure to do the best available possible promo for Sal and he's upcoming movie Oh, we're moving you guys coming up, so Now I have a new talk show going out called Manouche. It'll be it'll be on YouTube and wherever you get podcasts It's coming out late fall early winter. Oh, you should bring me also Manouche really really big guests really small talks. I mean a lot of fun. Check that out. I'm on tour He wants to go on. Sal will count on comedy.com for tickets I'm playing the Chicago theater November 14th the Beacon Theater, New York December 27 I'm playing the rhyming theater in Nashville, April 12th. I got like 40 cities up I'm always adding cities, so please check back there I got season 12 of my television show airing right now on TBS and my special terrified is currently streaming on HBO Max Sal are you gonna bring him on your talk show? I'd love to have him. Thank you, Sal. Yeah, appreciate that I will donate two thousand dollars to charity one thousand. I don't want to do two. I'll donate one hundred dollars to charity if you bring him on your talk show He's welcome to come on the show a hundred dollars straight to charity. I'll make you that deal. Okay That's a real watch. Yeah, this is a Below but I don't know how to say it. You're white. I know you know how to say it. I mean, what did you say about Lova? Yeah, how do you say that? You can read right? Below but yeah, how did you get another B in there? I'm telling you it's because it's not like ebonyx Will be it's only one B. What are you talking about? You said below. I said and I said I don't know how to say it And I said you say it because you know how to speak English That's correct. You would have been able to read it if it was in like a little funny pictures with the guy in his Baby, okay, um, let me find another Make now I gotta put my watch back to the right time Sal doesn't believe in systemic racism go ahead Anybody can join in on this one Why not tell what That's what that how did you say that word again? Systemic okay, you said it better the second time first time you said it fucked up That sounds rabbi. I'm advising him not to answer this question. Well, where did you get that from? Would do I state that? I don't know where you pulled that from That's one of the things you said on your new. I think you're doing so I got to see it before it released Mnouche may have talked show something like that The one that's gonna be out late fall early winter. I'm not showing something and if you talking to an Israel Wherever I could find my podcast. Yes, that's correct. Uh, you know, I didn't say that you're misquoting me Yeah, anyway, just joining on the debate discuss your thought process on that cell. I by the way, I agree with you What do you think I don't believe in systemic racism? You don't know, okay Fucking look at Obama Mm-hmm. What about him? Why do you look at me when you said Obama? Because you're black. But Obama's African though To me, you know, I'm not I don't believe in the funny stuff where like you say all of the people in the world If your education ain't up there yet, you're creating your own education. You're right It's not our own education every by the way, I think the I think the reason where you're confused is because you don't really know how to read English words You read pictures and you're missing how to read and not I know every dark skin race is not the same people You know, every dark skin races are East Indians black are East Indians. I like the way you pronounce people. You literally are putting all white people Together is literally what you're right now. So he's probably what you just say. They just got the same though. He know his pills And me and Salah, but I can't help it if there's more Melanated ethnicities than they are then you're singular non-melanated ethnicity. What I've never been called a non-ju before But he said that I looked like Sal, so I'm. actually like kind of flatter Jewish I was wanted to look Italian. I was wanted to look half Italian. You almost home. Can I recommend the conditioner? Why am I how he's getting like an Afro? You got a good sense of humor man. It's frizzy and then you have more control. I was after I noticed you're fiddling with a lot because when I'm getting sweating my hair eats absorbing it and it turns into sort of like his style thing. Wait, braids? No, you're like an Afro style. I'm saying your piece. Hey, I sell this hair tonic to help you. I don't use a business. I have a very look at the business. I can't like potions and wizarding stuff. No, it's a hair tonic that I make with some mixture. You made it? It'll help. Yeah, I made it myself. Oh, no, go ahead. That is fucked up. Yeah. You check out my reviews. They're insane, man. Everybody listen, even though I had a white lady. I had a white lady. Messes me. She had this bad skin thing. Skin part. And then she was just thinking her hands. And she asked me. So I made her unscented body butter. Put some witch haze on it. Witch haze? Witch haze. Come get all up. That's great for bad bites. Witch hazel. Oh, yeah, targets. Yeah. And I sell a body butter. And when she put the body, but it helped her. See, I even helped white people with this skin problem. See that? I can't be racist. That is how racism works. If you create body butter. That's why I that's my new thing. I'm going to just do body butter. Yeah, body butter, man. Listen, go to call. You can check it out. Uh-uh, no self promo. Black Jew. We help South promote everything. That's the only promotion. Black Jew. Black Jew. Okay. Watch your advice. So South can become less racist. South is not racist at all. No, that's what he said on his new program or whatever. I will probably have to hear what you know, like when you want to internet, you know, there's a thing called shit. You should have heard it when I was walking him in the building. What did say? Fucking I hope there's no fucking black people in there. That's what he was telling me in my ear. But he was saying you know what it seemed like. It seemed like when he got around a black guy, he changed. That didn't say because he's scared of you. You're dangerous looking. You might have a weapon. No, not in Cali. Uh-uh. Well, see, you would have had a way, but yeah, but come on, you don't, you know, you're not about licensing with you. Why? We obey the law. We don't break the law. All right. Yeah. Listen, I followed the law. Now, if I had a license to carry, there may be different. I mean, anybody here got license to carry? No. If you go to Chicago, we get to carry the Torah. But by the way, I don't, I don't know if you thought about this, but you could maybe mail some of the body butters to help with his racism and Exima. Yeah. It might help with Exima too because one of my sons had put their body butter on it. Once you're dealing with racism, I'd have all deal with the ex might just get it. Everything. This is a very, this is a very general question. Anybody can answer it. Actually, no, we'll start with Sal. Then we'll go this time to you guys and then to the back guy, you wish things, think, think whatever he is. It's confusing. Let me last. Let me last. Right. Um, I would like you to make the most convincing argument on why you think the other is wrong. The, the, the, the other. Yes. The other who him, you initially debated him at the beginning. So you'll start with him. Yeah. I, you know, the debate was short-lived and I didn't think we really bumped heads on anything. I just kind of make your best argument. But you've heard him talk a lot since then. You agree with everything you said? I would say this. I would say to every point, there is a counterpoint. So make your best counterpoint to anything he said so far. I'm fine with him believing what he wants to believe. That's his progative. You know, I might not agree with it, but I, but that's point that's sort of the idea of it. You don't agree with it. So you're going to say your reason why you don't agree with it. Form out it the best way you can. Yeah. I mean, I, like I said earlier, I'm not particularly religious. And so that's your argument. Well, I really don't know. He's these, they're both very well versed in the, you know, what they're talking about. I'm not. I think I would not add to this debate or conversation. And so how can I, how can I debate him if I don't really, if I can't back up anything? I don't, I can't fact check him. And I don't know anything, you know, I'm not really part of it. You know, I'm saying, I think you know what I'm saying here. It's like, what have I really added here except a warm body? You know, you drank all the juice. You ate all the bread. I didn't eat or drink anything. I offered you. I tried to promote my show a few times. You told me you're going to beat it. I came here in good faith, pun intended. And I've fed white people for the record. It was good. I don't know. I don't even know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying? I said, give me something, you know, that I have, that I have some education on. And maybe I can impart my thoughts, but I know you want more than this for me. And I want to give you more, but it just seems illogical for me to dispute anything that was said here because I have not someone in a position to speak to it. You're just trying to confuse me and get out of culture. You think that was confusing? Well, you're saying, oh, I really don't know anything. And if I said anything, you would be ignorant. I'm not going to say anything. My name is Sal and I have a promo to do. What do you want me to say? Say what you were told me about him before you got here. Say it to his face. That's right. Say it to his face. Say it to his face. You know, I, you know, when you, when we decided I would do the pod, it wasn't expecting this. Right. It's really been something. I just, as I said, I don't do episodes where the guest comes back. I get it. And I, however, I have to applaud the creativity. I think you should come back a lot. And we can do you think I'm going to come back a third time. I think we can do various styles of this show in the future. Okay. So what you're saying is you don't do repeat guests, but this can be a new thing. This can be like a special back more and more and every single time you mix it up. And it's something brand new. All right. Well, I had, I had a nice time, you know, I had a nice time. At times was I uncomfortable? Yes. Was I uncomfortable the entire time? Yes. But, but I like doing things that, you know, put me in new scenarios. I like it. I like keeping myself on my toes. And so, so maybe, maybe we'll do a couple of dozen of these. Okay. And maybe they'll go fantastic just like this every time. Right. And maybe I'll have a flourishing promotional avenue here. I know I know this is going to sell tickets for me. You know, this tonight, this up, this here, this me here today is going to sell. My tour is going to, it's going to thrive. Well, keep, well, your tour is going to blow up. That's correct. What's that? Your tour is going to blow up. You know, the ticket sales, the theater, uh, metaphorically, it's going to blow up metaphorically. Well, I think to make a counterpoint, I mean, him and his group, I can imagine a lot of them are in that theater you're performing out. I'm sure you'll sell a lot of more tickets there. Oh, yeah. We are great. Everyone, please come bring friends. You know, if you, let's be real, if you came and did a show and it was just people like him, not like black, just people who were dressed funny like this, you'd be a little scared. Why? But, but when we, what's the show? I want to give it something, like, when he does a show that we would, why not? I just don't necessarily dress like this. Huh? Like, when I don't dress like this, like every day, I didn't tell you to dress like that. I didn't say you did, but I dress like this when it's, uh, appropriate like a, we're teaching money to rain on the street. So the book of Ezekiel only applies when you're teaching what you said, what you read. No, I'm saying you said you read that because it's in the Bible. Oh, when it went early, it's about early. Yeah. So it only applies when you teach not. Okay. So like if I'm, if I go to the gym, I'm not wearing this one. I'm going to the Bible says on condition that that's when you wear it or the Bible doesn't say the Bible says when you're reading the scriptures of praying, yes, you would have this on, but it doesn't say when you're working a job that you have to have. Now, I know you need another. I don't give anybody a heads up. I thought you would, I hope, I mean, did which podcast did you do it? No, no, not really just. Yeah, last time I was attacked. I think it's a cool hat. That's true. Actually, I forgot about that. But if he was jutting right here together and you got you again, I didn't think about that. I would have been pretty cool. That shit is bland and not biblical, but not old old school, like that shit is bland and not biblical. I think it has a little pizzazz as a little character. Anyway, go ahead and make your best arguments against against me, against him in general, anything about anything. He brought very interesting points, but I feel like he was compliment him. No, he's doing like one. No, it has to be against him. I'm not asking you to win a debate against him. I'm asking you to do your best point against him. You don't have to fluff it with that. He's a nice guy. He made nice points, but just, you know, go straight to the juggler. So straight to the jugular. I don't know how to off the bat. No matter what points he brought across, he went for the hat. And I feel like that was just a low blow. Like you shouldn't have to go for the hat. If you have real points, don't mess with him for your hat. I'm up for my hat. So that's my thing. No, no, you know better, you know better than that. I already made fun of it. Had I Did it before him? I want some credit on that. I think it looks ridiculous too. I feel like he said it first No, no Let's play the tape I think that looks justice ridiculous. You have a lion on your face. That's right No, you're out of your mind. You think that look I am out of my mind. The profits in the Bible will consider out of the mind No, no, you're not getting it. You're not a proper I'm a prophet now you you name yourself captain and you can't even swim Myself captain. I was given that title. You were giving that title by rule by the man that ranks me commanding Johnny Hanna Commander Jemen. Yeah That's why I don't know that at that time you're you believe you're a pro actually a prophet. Yeah, please This guy's ridiculous, but that's what I'm saying That's what they said about all the perfection. This is a lovely chambray. What about my team here? It looks good Yeah, I mean, I'll give you credit for sit and sit with that through indoors. Yeah, cuz that's well I'm not nice. I was like a nice merino wool. This is just a business science. It's a breathable He's well you're cooking under there. It's hard under here, but now I look serious everybody knows to take me seriously You didn't come to play no game. Yeah, right Did you answer yet against this thing? I think you didn't get a warning. I honestly The truth is I think that he's sincere about what he believes No compliments. Just do the arguments. I I Fundamentally there's not one. I fundamentally the best one the biggest one. I mean, I think Look, I think Of a nature of being divisive as opposed to unifying I think would be the one that I would that I would lock on to in terms of being above other people Who are you talking about? Salah the guy here? We'll skip south for now. It's how was There's pretty tough so listen But no, so look this isn't about this isn't this is about a belief not about the person and I think there are a lot of things I disagree with practically everything that he said But that being said if I'm going to harp on one it'll be about the interpersonal relationships with other people God cares a lot more about how we are with each other than him doesn't care about how we are with him as much as he cares about how we are with each other So anything that promotes divisiveness as opposed to unity. I'm going to be against that For now you The biggest argument that I had well, I don't have no issue with Salah at all nothing with Salah not one He escaped with no no damage I wouldn't say escape, but for somebody that was What is the word D rail from what he thought it was I thought he handled himself well, so I didn't I don't have no issue I didn't know what I was walking into right right here just three hours So and I don't have a personal issue with nobody these are just discussions like we have to be men when you have conversation Sometime the true purpose the biggest argument is when he said that God can't give me the understanding of the Torah. He needs another book to understand that That is diabolical because God gave the children you heard that God gave the children of Israel one book. That's the book they read and that's the book they understood and that's where he Separated the difference between the men and the boys. That's the biggest argument that I got you a little kid What he said He a grown man Okay, let's continue Time to put money in the meter always about money Definitely Jewish Now you like three three by the back of that yeah, but the other two are insulting you you know that right I was insulting your way of speaking and saying it sounded funny basic right not not the last two pumps Oh, when I said you were a little dude that you're a grown man. You think I was serious. Yes, is that thing like Stopping the brain the blood from going through it was real good fly too. Can I see it? No, can I wear it? No, why? Because you're not Israel. So what I can't wear it because I'm not in Israel light. That's right. What if I agree to become one? You can't agree to become when you're born What if he gives you some money great if you don't gave up your own code what about where it talks about conversion? What about where the Bible talks about conversion thing is them being converted and being a way of my head piece Anybody went what what is the better word? Would you better wear it? The salary the south south the number south says he's a tolerance, so he would be white too, so he couldn't wear But what we I wouldn't use the word conversion, but I would use the word citizen So if someone was living in our city, we wouldn't mistreat them like it's not about Bullying another ethnicity because they're not my race of people. I would deal with them fair The Bible says there's certain rules that Makes Israelites separate the Bible's very clearly says like if you lend money to a non-Israelite You can charge them interest. Yes, but if you lend money to an israelite, you cannot charge him interest Yes, that's all you asked but it doesn't that's not how I'm at that is true And it also says that when you have specifically says these three people it says the convert the orphan and the widow For orphan in the widow could be a israelite too. Well Right, and they're all over with converts or citizens. They don't say convert in the Bible That's why citizen is better if if a stranger that's a non-Israelite lives amongst us They would have the same rights as us, but there's certain things like every israelite is not a priest So every israelite wouldn't wear That's true every convert is an israelite it would be would be an israelite not a late not a leave-out or a priest that's true Right, so that's what I'm saying because you're priestly Right, okay. That's no right. Yeah, that's why I was saying it's not about everything I know because you do agree that like converts can join If a citizen if it is excuse me let's say if for a israelite is living in the land of israel under our rule They would follow the Torah They would follow the laws. They would do everything like us. They would be a citizen. No difference right? So do you know what they would still be an israelite? They would just be like a citizen like Like when Elon Musk who South African comes to America. He's an American citizen But you agree that South African Do you keep the do you actually keep the the Torah like you keep the Sabbath? Yes, I keep the Sabbath. We just did day of atonement. We did our we did our feast day last Sunday this past Sunday So when it says to afflict your souls on on the day of atonement Ryan Jungkipper So how do you how do you write how do you afflict your soul like fast? Why I mean it just it says it's a day of affliction How do you know how to afflict your soul without an interruption because you see Daniel doing the same thing like we fast no food How do you keep the Sabbath of yours? How do you how do you kill now with the Sabbath is very simple You don't do no serve our work So on a Sabbath day whatever your job is you don't do that on your in Hebrew It's interesting in Hebrew. There are two words for work. One is avodah one is malacha Avodah is like you go to your job. It doesn't say that it says malacha. It's a different type of work It's a creative type of work has nothing if I wanted to be a waiter on the Sabbath as an author of so I can be on the Sabbath They're 39 categories of law that it cannot touch. That's on the Talmud, right? No, so so wait There are two definitions of work two words avodah is a malacha Avodah if I wanted to be a waiter somebody wanted to pay me money to be a waiter on the Sabbath I could be a waiter at a bar mitzo for example But I couldn't use an eraser. I couldn't take a pen and write Because there are 39 actions of creativity that God somehow Something that you get another the Talmud is just simpler than that for us If you if you was my boss on the Sabbath, I don't work for you on that day That's my day to do what I want. That's what the Sabbath was made for to rest from your labor Is that is that simple That's how simple that is And they gave you all the bread, didn't you? I'll take more of the bread. Well, he kept taking you know, we're just trying to be nice No, no, I'm not complaining about it You want the bread? No, no, no, I don't want none of the bread. I just said I didn't it's gonna sit there Uh, well, that's all of the time we have uh, we're gonna have to end it here because I'll have I have to do um my next episode it'll be it'll be Cheers an actual fight. It won't be a debate. Well, it'll be a debate, but like a real fight Between long neck and you if you're willing to join or I'll find somebody else. I don't know who won He's a little scrawny piece of shit. He's a big neck. It's in the name. I'll even let you use that weapon against him You could take it off. It probably can I touch it? Oh, no, I'm not allowed to touch it. I just want to feel what he's made out of No, maybe when maybe I don't know can I touch it? I am Sure Brian Borenstein, um, I'm in charge. I work for the orthodox union and I'm the west coast regional director for NCSY Which is the high school programming and uh, I'm an orthodox rabbi out here in Los Angeles So I'll go ahead. Actually, we'll do saw last now you go rabbi Whatever go rabbi. My name is minachem silverstein. I'm a rabbi and comedian. You know, we get the laugh actor every Thursday at 10 pm Okay, go ahead. Uh, I'm Captain Tazariak of ISU pk under command in jr. Hanna. Uh, I'm a precinct prophet You have to admit your guys' names are very funny. My name is a fire. You just ain't never heard them before Just like nobody heard your language before that you speak and then you got the cuss to you. What I'm making is pretty clear No, I'm talking about I never heard your name. He's like, you never heard somebody named bread and water. That would be a ridiculous name. Oh, this guy is not serious. Hey, that's unique, man. How did you get that name? Oh, nice to meet you, bread and water. Like that. Well, you got my name. You say, hey, come on, man, let's do this show. See that? See how it works. Not because of your name. I needed somebody here to debate the Jews and Sal, what mostly Sal. Sal, go ahead. Now it's your turn. My name is Savalkano, I'm a stand-up comedian and a producer and a writer and stuff like that. I have a tour. It's called The Everything's Fine Tour. It's a brand new hour of material. If you see my special terrified streaming on HBO Max, it's a brand new hour. And you can get tickets at Savalkano.com or comity.com. I'm touring all the way through 2026. I'm always adding dates and cities. Got a new talk show called Manouch coming out toward the end of the year. And season 12 of "Practical Jokers" is now airing on TBS. And let's be fair and give Sal some credit. Because truly, he did know what was happening today. And a lot of comedians wouldn't agree to something like this. They would want to stay safe while Sal was willing to get in the middle of this heated debate. I am known for being very edgy. Right. Good job, Sal. OK, well, that's it. We're done. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, guys. Video. Did you have fun, Sal?

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Salvo Conno challenges the "Black Israelites" movement, arguing it lacks historical or biblical evidence and is based on a fabricated dream by Frank Cherry.
  2. The conversation highlights deep disagreements over race, identity, and religious truth, particularly regarding the color of biblical figures like Jesus and Moses.
  3. Salvo claims that Judaism is not a race-based identity, and that the idea of Black people being the "true Israelites" is a modern, racially charged myth.
  4. Both hosts express skepticism about DNA-based ancestry claims, arguing that DNA tests cannot reliably trace lineage back 3,000 years and that such claims are often biased or manipulated.
  5. A central debate centers on whether biblical texts describe people of color, with Salvo pointing to the description of Moses and Jesus as having "red" or "hairy" skin, which he interprets as evidence of lack of melanin.
  6. The discussion touches on interracial marriage, reparations, and historical narratives, with both parties asserting differing views on justice, race, and religious authenticity.
  7. Critical points about historical accuracy are raised—such as the claim that Black people were absent from the moon missions or that Jews were never in Israel—leading to factual corrections and counter-arguments.
  8. The dialogue ends with mutual recognition of differing worldviews, emphasizing the need for clear definitions and respect for diverse interpretations of history and religion.

Summary:

The podcast features a heated and intellectually complex dialogue between Salvo Conno and host Viral Flooring, centering on the "Black Israelites" movement, which claims African Americans are the true descendants of the ancient Israelites. Salvo argues this belief is unfounded, lacking historical or biblical evidence, and rooted in a dream by Frank Cherry, who faced legal consequences for spreading such ideas. The conversation delves into racial identity, religious authenticity, and the interpretation of biblical texts—particularly whether figures like Moses or Jesus were described as having dark or light skin.

Salvo contends that the idea of "blackness" in biblical narratives stems from descriptions of red or hairiness, not melanin, and that Judaism is a religion, not a racial identity. Both parties challenge each other’s claims on DNA ancestry, historical facts (like moon missions or Jewish origins), and cultural narratives, including the role of race in religion and justice. Deep disagreements emerge on topics like reparations, interracial marriage, and the treatment of minorities.

The discussion reveals a fundamental divide: one side sees the movement as a racial reclamation rooted in truth and history, while the other views it as a modern, often misguided, racial ideology. Despite the confrontational tone, both acknowledge the complexity of identity, history, and belief, and agree that clear definitions and mutual respect are needed to avoid dehumanizing claims. The episode ultimately serves as a platform for exploring how race, religion, and historical narratives intersect in contemporary society.

FAQs

The Black Israelite movement originated with Frank Cherry, who claimed he had a dream revealing that Black Americans are the true Israelites. There is no historical or factual evidence to support this belief, and it is considered a spiritual or visionary claim, not a historical or biblical fact.

The Bible does not explicitly describe the skin color of Jesus or Moses. While some references describe them as 'red' or 'hairy,' these descriptions are not about skin color in the modern sense. These terms are often interpreted as referring to physical characteristics, not race, and there is no biblical basis for claiming they were Black.

Judaism is primarily a religious and cultural identity, not a race-based one. While some people identify with Jewish heritage through ancestry, the religion is based on shared faith, traditions, and teachings, not on racial characteristics.

The Torah, particularly in Deuteronomy 7:3, commands against intermarriage with non-Jews, which is interpreted by many as a religious restriction. However, modern Jewish practice varies, and many Jewish communities accept interfaith marriages, especially in contemporary times.

DNA testing can provide insights into ancestry, but it has limitations—especially for tracing identities over 3,000 years ago. The accuracy diminishes over generations, and such tests are not definitive for determining race or ethnic origin, especially in historical contexts.

The conversation around race and historical injustice is complex. While some argue that the white race is in danger due to demographic trends, the speaker does not support reparations for white people, nor does he believe in racial reparations for whites. He supports reparations for Black Americans as a matter of historical justice.

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