S4 Ep. 17 - Holes (I’m Tired of This, Grandpa)

Dungeons and daddies is a rowdy, horny, violent podcast for grown-ups. Content warnings can be found in the episode description. In the AVA justice system, criminals are judged by two separate yet equally important groups. Bird juries who judge bird crimes, and non-bird juries who deliberate on cases involving non-bird offenders. These are their stories. Chip-chip-chip-chip-chip-chip-chip-chip-chip-chip. Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob-Bob. Welcome to Dungeons and Daddies. Or, actually, it's grandpa's and galsies this season. [Sighs] [Sighs] They're ugly and uncomfortable, it's so ugly that it's uncomfortable to wear. Grandpa's and galsies is a grand space popper about four gilves who take to the stars to rescue their grandkids, three of them, and perhaps the entire known universe in the process. D&D in the dark matter system, my name is Freddie Wong. I play Ashley Birch, Ashley with an E. Birch like the tree. Born in '64, that makes him the youngest boomer. His day job, a twin galaxy's Eric Gadgeteer arcade pro gamer turned Twitch streamer his night job. Also, Twitch streamer. You gotta be streaming all the time. This week's Ashley Fat, I thought of this one from a dream. -Wow. -He's naked, oh no, everyone has called Dim Sum, Chinese Topus. You Ashley prefers to call it ordering all the cart. That's pretty good. -Okay. -Okay. I'm going to be brave. I don't get the all a cart joke, can you explain it to me? -It's a cart, a cart around. -It's a cart. -Oh. -I don't know if that's in some places. -At Dim Sum places? -No, I feel like I just took the limitless pill. But Ashley's favorite method of eating is eating at a steakhouse, especially in the old school. Here's why. Here's what I mean, right? -What if they were just working with this dog? -Fretty just starting to have their facts. -You just come back. -If you eat it, I don't continue. How long do you think Freddie would just keep saying that? -Here's why I'm not going to say anything until he's done. -I'm not going to say anything until he's done. -Statecouse, you're right? -Mm-hmm. -You order sides, but everyone shares them. -Yeah, staycouse, I don't order. -You get your thing, right? -The best guy to finish it. -But then that's all about his personal lived experience that has to be explained to the masses. -But then you're like, "Wait me, I have to get extra sides and everyone's got to share one of my sides." -Digging on these butt and mushrooms, guys. -And then they're like, "What the fuck is this?" And then they bring them out and it's just like, "Here's a small plate of broccoli, and we're all going to poke it." I'm like, "This is terrible." Freddie, not only did you just add a second fact. -Oh, is that a problem, Will? -Not only did you people value for the money. Not only did you add a second fact that is clearly just a u-fact, but then you're like, "Ashley likes it." And then your fact was you complaining about why it's bad. That's why I'm not Ashley! I'm a different artist than playing a character! -Oh, that's what it is. -That's called acting, Will, you heard it? -That's what I just hate to read. -I hate to read. -Did you know that Leonardo DiCaprio didn't defraud people out of money in Wolf of Wall Street? He's actually playing a character, Will? He also wasn't even on the Titanic! -Freddy, I'm sorry. -He didn't even say-- -No, you're right. You're right. I'm sorry. I was sorry. It was really funny. Hey, everybody, I'm Matthew Arnold. I played Dale Elliott. The world crews love an ex-life guard living his best-month life with over one father of four grandfather of seven and friend to all. I think I'm done with the senses. I don't care if I am or not. So here's a little fact about Dale. Dale does go to San Diego Comic-Con every year. -Wow. -He started. It was just a little accident. He was getting off of a cruise ship in San Diego. It happened to be during Comic-Con. He saw a bunch of people dressed up like pirates and he was like, "Well, this is my sort of jam." Like, what is this? They saw him and he was dressed up and it's a lion's show. And they were like, "Where's the Pirate Folk?" Come join us. He's like, "Okay. The Pirate Folk." Pirate Folk are fans of the hit anime series one time. -Oh, damn it. Hell yeah. -Hell yeah. -Fuck. -Hell yeah. -Fuck yeah, dude. -He walked his show. -This is what he's thinking of, Doc. He's like, "Where are you guys going?" And he thought it was going to be like a beach party, but it went to his big convention center. There's always interesting costumes. Like, this is neat. This is neat. He still doesn't really know what Comic-Con is. But every year he goes down there, he tries to meet up with the Pirate Folk. And he's just a good time in San Diego. It's a nice time for him. -Just going to look at what this looks like, looking at the cosplay for STC. -If you go to Reddit Pirate Folk, despite it being a fan base of one piece, you would think they didn't like one piece. [ Laughter ] -Is their fan base really called Pirate Folk? -That Reddit is called Pirate Folk. -Yeah. -That's wild. -Yeah, I think that it may not be the overall term for all one piece fans. -That's why they need to have two different, like, subrits, like the pay. -The pits got the one subrite that hates the show. -Uh-huh. -And the one subrite that likes the show. -I, everyone, I'm Will Campos. I play Ralph Estorias, a sci-fi scribe/wife guy who's wife died, slash radiation freak. -That's short, little simple Ralph Fak for you today. Ralph's first job as a kid was he was a Batboy for the Waterloo Whitehawks. -A metal-like team in -- -I was thinking the same thing. -Yeah, you see, Ralph, while he was running balls back and forth and getting guys their cocaine or whatever a Batboy did for a minor league team back in the day, it wasn't getting people their cocaine. It was inventing Big League Choo. -Yeah, I did the idea for Big League Choo and then forgot about it. -We're getting so many facts. -And then didn't go on to become award winning der. Who was it that did Todd? -It's the guy who did tar, yeah. -Really? -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. -Yeah, he made 50 shoes. -50 shoes of that boy. -Shit. -That almost is going to be like the potion seller riding the Challengers. -Yeah, literally, yeah, the two crazy movie industry facts. The director of tar Todd Field was the Coke inventor of Big League Choo when he was a Batboy for the Portland Mavericks. And then -- -My God. -And my second favorite one, Joel Silver also co-creator of Ultimate Frisbee. [ Laughter ] -So anyway, Ralph was a Batboy. And yeah, he would daydream about a character named Batboy that was like his alter ego. He was like a teenager turning to a Bat for proto-teen sex. He was like, "There's something about a teen." -Wait, it turned into a Bat, not turning to a Bat. -I thought, yeah, I thought the same thing, Matt. -Oh, that's good. I like that more. -That'd be like turning to a Baty cop movie. -It's like a guy who's trying to be hard to turn to a Bat. It's like, you know what I talk to you. It's like angels in the outfield or rookie of the year, but the kid turns into the Bat that they both uses. -Yeah. -Yeah. -Wow, that's where like Sandlot, I guess. -Yeah, so that he magically helps be, he's like this lucky home run bat for the teen. -He like has to like roll and knock over a picture of his wife, so he like remembers what he's playing the game for. -Wow. -And the guy get into a fight and then as he swings the bat, like purposely moves out of the way of the ball and keeps getting distracted. -Come on, buddy, what are you doing with my bat? -So yeah, there was that. And I also was going to say that this is where he got his lifelong love of tobacco products. [ Laughter ] -Oh, yeah. -Yeah, hold on, wait a minute. -We need some smokers. -Yeah, those smokers too. -They've been smokers. -Who all smokers? -They all smokers times the cigars are cigarettes. -I've been name checking Ralph's pipe that he smokes. -Yeah, that's right. -Oh, yeah, that's true. -When he started on Chute Tobacco. Yeah, that was why he didn't like Big League Choo. He's like, "What do I need gum for?" I can just get tobacco from these guys. -As a kid in the 40s, I can just get raw tobacco for this. -Have anything ever done to you? -I have, yes. -Oh, okay. -I just sped it into a little spittoon. -I wanted it. -Yes, there was no ringing spittoon just sped it into. So I'm like, "I'm missing half the experience." -Geez, honestly. -No, I spat it out. [ Laughter ] -Hi, my name is Beth May, and I play Herb. The Warm Quigley, a young, hard-farting storytelling grandpa who is losing the plot. And so am I. Fun fact about Herb. He was trying a few years ago to get into big pharma. That's right. That was his dream. He wanted to cater specifically the people who forget to take their pills. So he's been working the hardest on specifically the names of the medication, because he thinks that's the most important part of getting rich and selling the product. And so far, he has come up with four bangers. -Let's hear him. -Remembral? Yep. - Missedos? (laughing) - That's great. (laughing) - Whoopsidone? (laughing) - This is why I'm really proud of, I mean, he's really proud of adhera. (laughing) - That fact is inspired by my psychiatrist telling me about an injectable antipsychotic you take every six months and it's called haphiura. (laughing) - That's awesome. - That fucking rule. - You guys heard about a dog's approach? (laughing) - If you don't know what it is, ask your doctor and see if it's right for you. - What's up dog? - I'm Anthony Birch, I'm your granddad master. I don't have a Fermi effect today, we're going back to Epigramps. - Nice. - Yay. - And this one I suspect at least some of you will know. - Is it a, I'll go ahead. - It's not a woman. (laughing) I'm sorry. - That's it. - Okay. - If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent her, I made it feminist. (laughing) - Sounds like Descartes or something like that. - Close to John. - Cont. - Fucking. - Some low guy. - Some low guy. - Some low guy. - Some low guy. - And I mean, it's not like a founding father, is it? - No. - Uh, I haven't. - It's sheer regard. - Can you guys hear me? - You'll be able to get it from a different quote by the same guy. I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend it to the death you're right. - Oh, so we're going on. - Yep, exactly. Thank you. (laughing) - Now who was it? - It was Voltaire. - Ah, Voltaire. - He did. - When at the beginning. - Oh, okay now, well you got there eventually. We last left you, you did your civic duty. You passed a verdict of guilt on a stranger and then said that they should have-- - Oh, some juries do. (laughing) (laughing) - I mean, that's just, that's just definitely true. - Oh, shit. - That's not even like, that's just how that works. - Oh, shit, shit. - No, I'll cut that. - No, he didn't, wait, he didn't say anything. - That's just a general, that's just a theory about some-- - They didn't get a chance to, are you talking about her? - No, that was the judge. - All of us want to keep the joke in, but there's one hold out on the-- (laughing) Give me an hour. Give me an hour. - Come on. Hey, judge, come on, give me an hour. I can change him, I can change your mind, give me an hour. - All right. - I'll allow it. (laughing) - You chose a punishment of memory wipe of offending incident, but the big twist was that this jury trial took place in February before you even knew what was going on in the podcast. So without knowing that it was Oliver, you sentenced Oliver to have his memory of killing a bunch of people accidentally during a space chase, a race from his mind. And more importantly, if you ever remember as that he did it, his mind will basically burn from the inside and he will die. And as this was explained to you, a tentacled creature came up to you, very briefly showed you its face, which was the sculptor's face and said, "Sounds like we have a lot to talk about. What would you do in this moment as Oliver is talking to Herb?" The sculptor has pulled one of you side and is talking to you about a conversation that you should have. Also, the tentacled creature has a cuboid case that it's holding in its right tentacle. It has a gamecube that is only right on top of it all. - Is he handcuffed to the case, but it's just like his tentacle in a little cuff? - Yeah, he just tied his tentacle into a knot. - That's crazy. - The sculptor, is it the entire galaxy's system of juries compromised by your presence? - Right. - Because if you're on a jury act, it could be multiple people on that game. - How many trials have you rigged? - The sculptor takes his two tentacles and pushes them into his cheeks and goes, "Ain't I a Stinker?" - Well, it wouldn't even be considered rigging though. Like if the sculptor was representative, like 20% of your own trial of works, have you ever been charged with a crime and then being on the jury for your own crime, maybe? - What the hell is this? - Hell is hell is hell is hell is. You're getting your debate energy out early. I wanted to talk with you. - Oh, it's not a bad question. - Wait, wait, before you say anything else, baseline has won't get a sense of this. What percentage of the universe are you? - I don't mind gambling, I just want to know the odds. Like whenever I go to see somebody, if a new person shows up and they're like, "Hey, you want to go hang out?" I'm like, okay, what's the chance that's you? - Dale, would you think that would be a smart thing to tell you? - Oh. - Whoa, are you part of it? I'm mine? - Oh, my God. - And you don't even know it? - I would tell you, 'cause I think it's fair to me. - Why, why would you tell me? - I don't know. (laughing) - I just would, I mean, I would, I mean, you know what? - And Dale's a stand-up guy. - Yeah, I'm a stand-up guy. - I'm like, you, sitting around, sneaking around, pretending to be other people. - I will cop to not being a stand-up guy. - And we only hang with cool stand-up guys, like my butt day, I do, and he did want something. - So, I know, I just wanted to get a sense of it. - I know, we're trying to rattle his cage a little. Ah, didn't work. Is that for me? - Yeah, pick up self. - What do you want? - You got everything you wanted. - If you walked up to yourself as a cashier, would you let yourself walk away with unpaid-for merchandise and goods? - I wouldn't even bother walking with my stuff at the point. - Do you fall in love with yourself? - Yeah. - To choose sculptors not know who each other are. And they fall in love. Is it like, if you didn't know your cousins? - No, they would know who each other are. - They would know each other. - Yes, different minds within my hive mind can fall in love with each other in half. - Wait, what, really? - Yeah. - What? - They're separate minds. - Is there other rules about that? - Within the hive mind, what, what happens? - I mean, they have a relationship and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. - If you make a baby, is the baby a sculptor? - I can't make babies. - You can't make babies. - But your name is a sculptor. What do you sculpt? - Flesh. - Guys. - If he doesn't make babies, that means anybody who's a sculptor would not waste money on any contraceptives. - That's true. - Just detect the point. - Hey, detect the point. - No, that's not happening. - You got to look at this. This is between us. - Great to remember. - If a guy ever says that he doesn't need to use the condom, it's because he's a sculptor. - But I'm gonna say, if we meet somebody, take a look in their wall, they gotta, you know. - They've got a Jimmy hat. - And Jimmy hat in there, they're probably not a sculptor. - He's probably not a sculptor and a responsible individual. - I just gotta chill down in my spine, comprehending the strange arcane shapes and alien prophylactic would take. - Probably you could blow it up like a balloon though. - Yeah, you actually can, most of them. - Okay, so you're here, even though you took everything from us. - I booked out a conference room. I just wanna have one final conversation 'cause your debate's not done with Owl here. - What do you mean? - He taps his briefcase and he opens it up and shows you Owl. - He shows us Owl how, he shows you the cube that Owl-- - Oh, the cube was in, the house is Owl. - So, Owl is like this really powerful air. I don't know how much you missed while you were out, so to speak, but this guy, the sculptor, he's probably a high mule. - You know, I know who the sculptor is, you know him? - Yeah, well not, well actually, yeah, perfect. - We know one of his-- - Yeah, we kind of go-- - We kind of go way back. - Okay, hey Owl, just so you know, Owl is trying out different voices, different genders for fun. - Oh, well that's cool. - If Owl sounds different-- - Owl, now you're partying. (laughing) - That's what I call partying. - He left us and all of the, or they-- - Owl. - Owl. - Owl. - They tried different things while you were gone. - Is that you Owl? - Yes, yes. - What the fuck? Who's talking right now? That's Owl. - This is Owl, do you guys don't remember me? - I remember you. - You're listening to our producer, Indisa, who has joined the podcast for this episode to hit shit as Owl, because Anthony does not trust himself to give an unbiased third party view in this debate. - Also, Indisa is used to us debating and arguing and then trying to convince her of things. - Yeah, yeah, and I don't always take all of their arguments. I will, I will make my own decision. So, yes, that is me. I am Allison, am I Owl? Do I just go by Owl? - He did try to get to you. - I'm okay with being Owl, yeah. - You were supposed to prepare a dad fact. Do you have a dad fact for us? - Uh, no. (laughing) - That you know what I feel? - No, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no. - Owl is the smartest person in charge. Intelligent, capable. - Beautiful. - So just be yourself. - It's here. (laughing) - I don't feel like Owl would have a fact. Owl would not play into this. - There you go. - That's enough. - That's bad. - I'll do that for Owl next week. - Yeah, damn, good news. - Shit. - I already broke the meta. - Yeah. - He's there one time. We would try to figure out how to get out of dad facts for years. (laughing) - You get to do it once, but all you have to do is the same episode. - Yeah. (upbeat music) - Cool voice. - Hi guys, it's been a long time. - There's just two things you need to know quickly. Scuplish us. One is I just wanna have one final conversation, one debate with you, and then we're done. And two, there is a bomb in the hospital. And you know, if you don't, then I'll do it. - You're gonna bomb the hospital like Joker? - Not quite like Joker. - How do you know what Joker is? - Again, I've watched a lot of fiction in every crystal of movie. - Yeah, yeah, because he's the masterful us for a time and says things like if God doesn't exist, we need to do that. - Okay, sculptor, we'll talk to you, okay? That's fair. - Great. - You want to talk? I don't like talking with a bomb. So why don't you just put that aside, and then we'll come talk to you. I don't understand. It's not a debate if the signs are that unequal. It actually, it is. You had an attempt to convince Al to join your side and not help me. I have spent the last year with Al, and we spent that time talking. And because Al is an intelligent being, and I've had a lot of time to share my perspectives with them, they are prone to change their mind about things and open to being persuaded. So the last time they saw you, Al promised that they would help you stop me and my people, the luminous from getting the spark and gaining control over life and death. Is all tracking, remember this? - Yes. - Then you taught Al how to kill someone, or how it feels to kill someone, and then his pathos circuit locked. So in terms of pathos, he's on your side and will never stray from your side. But in the intervening year, I've shown him innumerable perspectives, facts, and stories from my hive mind. And so I've locked ethos in my favor. - Bullshit stories like I can walk away with candy bars, whenever I want, if I'm running the store, that's a stupid story. - I never sold that as a story. - Wait till Al hears what I have to say about that. - Or steak houses. - So all that remains is logos. - So to understand. Owl is emotionally with us. That's what paid us. He understands the emotion of the pain that destroying the universe and the stupid way you wanna do it that sucks would cause. Yes, but he believes, correctly, I would argue, that I may better authority figure to make decisions like this than you are. Okay, well. 'Cause you make rational decisions like put a bomb in a conversation. Hey, Owl. Yes. Do you know about the bomb? I am aware, yes, that's good. Well, the fuck do you think about that? Well, emotionally, I'm not very happy about it. (laughing) But logically, I understand why this would benefit the sculptors agenda. And because I want Owl to work with me, I've given Owl my word that as long as this conversation goes off, however, it's going to go on. The way you want it to go. No, no, however it goes off. Because again, I have no control over Owl, nor do you, other than our ability to persuade them of stuff. So all they have left is their logo circuit. So that's what we're essentially going to be fighting Owl. But that's like the one thing we're bad at. Well, that's not necessarily a smart name. Your score in logos from the last time you talked to Owl is 27 out of 50. The first person to reach 50 wins. My score is 21 out of 50. So you've got a head up on me by six points. So if anything, this might actually go pretty well for you. The thing is not blackjack. Yeah. Can I ask, before we start this conversation, why there has to be a bomb here? Yes, I would like to say what you're saying is that, either you win or you lose, but you win. No, the reason the bomb is here is because I saw the way you were eyeing Owl here. And I'm sure that in the back of your mind, you're thinking, what if instead of doing the debate, we steal? Then give us the detonator. If you think that the bomb is there to kill all of us, and it shouldn't matter who has it, and that would be a sign of good faith, and then the debate can continue in a cool way. Roll persuasion. Who's got the best persuasion? Well, you said it. Well, Freddie said it too. Okay, well, either one of you have to-- You see it too, I said it. Yeah. I persuasion plus one, and I roll a 17 plus one, 18. Ooh, nice. It goes, okay, and tosses you the detonator. Wow. That'll be great. Hey, guys, the detonator, real quick. Right here, I could-- We all like it in the season, right? [LAUGHTER] I knew it had so much to be served. I knew it had so much to be served. In the whole show before. And like this boss, we're sure here. Yeah? Like if I press it. But that's what I know for sure. It's not like in this exact room, but yeah, the building will go down. I want to use my cool hacking skills to try and understand the niche. For example, have they gotten a team of contractors in over the past month to go into the elevator shafts and install C4-- Oliver sees you staring at the detonator with this look of hungry in your eye, and he goes, oh, also, they gave me my stuff from when I fell into a coma, but I don't recognize this. I think they just gave me the whole lost and found. I don't really have much use for it, but-- Dips. Dips. Dips. I call Dips. OK, from his heavily, it's yours. I mean, Herb, you can look at it too, I guess. Sure. I just want to take one look. Fine, go ahead. What do I see? Freddie, what is Herb see? You see a micro turret, a palm-sized puck that I can throw. These are all things that I have been slowly gathering and trying to figure out for my gadgetier class, as I level up. Suppose it, like-- So we're seeing the diagetic explanation. We're doing the diagetic-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] Stop. I'm like, you couldn't figure out in the sci-fi world or a spaceship where you just get some stuff. If only you'd been to a mall at any point in this-- No, it's just a little bit of a cabinet or a spaceship at any moment. Sure, maybe, maybe that. Maybe, but here's-- I just want to get everyone up to speed with my cool gadget. You know that class of RPG leveling mechanic, where they just, a guy at the lost and found gives you a more powerful item. You got a lot of them, folks. Absolutely. I have a micro turret. It's just like a thing I lob, and it turns into a turret that shoots-- Oh, Torbjorn, dude. Torbjorn. Yes. The TF2 Torbjorn turret, I have that. You're very more video games. I have the gravity manipulator. It's like a fist. It's still that let's me move things. He's over it playing Overwatch and Half Life, too. Yeah, I'm sorry. He picked the correct class. I also have-- What did you get all this stuff? This level? Five is like a pretty big-- I will say this. Some of these were things that I've had that we haven't been in like crazy combat when I got it. So it's like, you know, I got the bubble shield. But I'm like, well, there wasn't really-- whatever, all right. I'll just go through the list. I'll stop interrupting. I have a device that can turn things invisible within 60 feet of where I throw it. This is in dark matter. Yeah, yeah. And I also have like an omnitool. It's like a sonic screwdriver-y thing. It lets me like scan this. Oh, just lose on that thing. Yeah, I'm keeping this stuff. And if you want to use any of those, you have to ask Hard to do it for you. And also, you have three drones now, including a drone that will defend you by-- you can choose to like, instead of taking a hit, one of your drones dives in front of you, like Clint Eastwood in that one movie where he's in the light of fire of this agent. Yeah. Yeah, this is the ultimate, like, your boomer parent calls you to work the TV, like they're like, hey, this drone, how does it work? OK, all that cool stuff. What does this thing detonate? Where is the bombs in this building, et cetera, et cetera? I mean, how would you find that out? So I want to wait for a note of sure. I don't even want to wait for that. [LAUGHTER] Dale is the only one whose grand kid is safe. [LAUGHTER] First thing, I want to make sure that the detonator is in a switch, is it a button? So it looks like the weed nunchuck. Yeah. It's like that, but it's black, and there's a red button on top. So it's just a button on top. Yeah. Not covered with the cover, with the plastic cover. There we go. That's all I know. OK. I'm going to put it in another box. I'm going to tape the cover. So you said you booked some sort of conference room so we can have this discussion. Correct. I respect that. I mean, I like that kind of thinking ahead kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Well, we are walking. I am going to cast. Hmm, message. My little spell that lets me speak into Dale's ear. Great. OK. Damn. Oh, yeah. Why did you make that? It's like, I don't explain it whenever you talk to me. It's like the feeling when you're in a bath, and the water fills your ear, and then when you tilt sideways, the water comes out of your ear. Oh, it feels like-- I never would have asked you, man. Oh, yeah. I can't say. Let Herb know that you can hear me because I don't want the luminous-- Herb, I'm not crazy. I know what you're thinking is a real voice in my head. No. I'll have to explain it later. I get it, man. No, I don't think you're crazy. I would never use that word, man. Oliver, when we go to the pharmacy, let's just-- Yeah, let's pick up some extra stuff. I'm going to cast message at Herb as well. Herb, no. Herb, it's herb. It's herb. I'm also talking to Dale. Just be cool, OK? I'm going crazy. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not. You're not. Herb, I hear it. Herb, I hear it too. When you want pills now, I can get you to pill down. I'm covering my mouth at my hand. So still can't just-- I need to talk to Dale. I can only talk to one of you at a time. It's not a multi-party line. I'm not that good at it. So I'm going to switch back to Dale, and then he's going to loop everybody in on what's going on, OK? OK. I'm walking. Dale. Ah. [LAUGHTER] This is so good. Oh, this is such a good recurring gag. It strikes me that we should use this tipy as an opportunity to distract this guy. And then we can steal out. And maybe we can also be scouting out where this bomb is. So what are the baits going on? Maybe we find that bomb, and we disarm it. Maybe we use-- I switch over. It's actually passion. [LAUGHTER] You've got these drones now. All of them are like, why do you guys all make-- Oh, that's right. You've got these drones. Herb, go my drones. Yeah. You and Ashley need to use the drones to look for the bomb. And I do it telepathically. Why'd you say I do it telepathically? I'm telling you. Oh, I said I'm going crazy, man. OK, I'll get the pills out now, actually. Oh, wait, but actually, while you go look for the bomb. Oh, that's a-- yeah, I can-- Let's do we think we need his shop, huh? He's over. Oh, man. It's herb. I mean, it's Ralph. Well, it's like-- so you're using message on everything. No. It's fine, I don't know. Talk to the skulls. Herb, herb. Yeah. You have, in your on the tool device, there's a button there that says scan. It scans every piece of tech within 30 feet. OK, what do you say when you want to use it? You press the button. What do you say? Please. OK, here you go. Ah, I press the button. OK, how many times can you use this thing? Pro, I could slam like a fucking button. Yeah, I could. Yeah, just forever, huh? This guy's steamed that battery life. OK? We're waiting to answer that question. In theory, if he scanned the detonator, maybe that we trace where the signal from the detonator is going to get to the bomb. Perhaps. You were talking to me. Oh, I'm so sorry. I left you on the whole day. OK. And then I'll finish along with it. OK, so give me a technology role. And the better the role, the more specific at the information you will get from the scan of the detonator. 19 plus 7. Woo. 26. The bomb is on the third floor of the hospital. You can tell because the signal is headed in that direction. It's headed pretty much straight up. Are there any signs that tells where the third floor is? Yeah, I mean, there's stairs and elevators and stuff like that. In a bird city, there's stairs and elevators, huh? Yeah. OK. Sometimes people that aren't birds like to visit did light. Does it say what the third floor is? It's x-rays radiation stuff. OK, so it's just like a normal hospital. Damn, they must have to do that a lot, because birds have hollow bones. It's actually-- that's why it's all the floor. Yeah, it's a whole floor. That's a whole wing. [LAUGHTER] That's the inspiration. It's so healthy. OK, great, great. You're the right here this time. All right, well, let's just-- You're the right here this time. - Hey, how's it going this year? - It's good. - Okay, great. - Well, look, it seems like we're all on the screen. to say page. Okay. So I'm just saying when we get in there, how about you're going to take point and kind of just trying to just make a big spectacle in there. Oh, but we're supposed to be logic. The here's the search of the goal post we need to slow you to keep this guy occupied. I got that. And while he's doing that, maybe we send one of those little drones out to look for the mom. Logic is just common sense. It was got plenty of that. You spend those sense wisely, my friend. Okay. And if you need talk to me, it's popping to one of my years. Okay. But all turn the eyes. It feels good. But alternate. So it doesn't bother me anymore. Hey, what does it feel like if I go like this? Oh, okay. Make a constitution. Yeah. That might not you have to beat, dude. I didn't know that was possible in 11. Your knees buckle with with fucking sensation and joy. I've lived this like fine. And varied life with a lot of experiences. Ralph, and you've just given me something I've never felt. Wow. I don't know how to feel about that. I mean, it's not like it's good. It's good feeling. You just let me know if you need to feel that way again, I suppose. Okay. Just deal with that. If that comes up, I'm going to go now. Click. All right. So real bros going in out of your ears. We're doing for a head road mail to your church with underline, not gay. So the sculptor leads you to a conference room that's like one of those rooms for like, you know, talking to patients and shit. Oh, wow. This is nice unless you in a complimentary birdseed. And so he says, okay, since you have the detonator, you know, this is on the level. Yeah. And I'm going to do a further favor for you. And I'm going to say you get to choose whether to go first. And when I speak, you can choose what topic I talk about. I have like four or five. And you can tell me which one you're most interested in hearing. Oh, that's so nice. Always go last. Okay. We go first. We can poison the well. I mean, I mean, he's already a year alone. It's I think we need to let him go first. So we get a sense of what we're dealing with vis-a-vis owls, current state of mind. Plus if he's going first, then one of us can slip a little drone out the window and go scope around. So you can find that problem on the third floor. So the way this is going to work is we're going to take turns throwing out an argument. Then the other person is going to get to make a counter argument to that argument. And then Al is going to decide which of those two sides was most convincing from a logical point of view. That side will roll for points on the logic scale. Then the other side will get to make their argument. So essentially, you can win on counter argument. You can win on making your own argument. It just switches in terms of who gets to make the starting argument and who's doing the counter argument. It's your turn. Right now it's my turn. I will make an argument. You will make a counter argument. Al will determine which of those two is most convincing. And that side will get points. Then it will be your turn. You will make an argument of your choice. I will make a counter argument. And then Al will decide who gets those points. And we'll go back and forth until somebody reaches 50. And just to clarify, the reason this is fair is that there are more of us by a user respects Anthony a lot more than that. Yes, yes, yes, of course. You want me to go first? I think so. Okay, great. Yeah. So go ahead and choose a topic. The themes are everything is chaotic. I know what death is. I will destroy myself. Okay. And meaning is not inherent to endings. Meaning is not exclusive. The endings. Therefore like there could be meaning even without his loved ones. You know, I feel like that one's the weakest argument for him. Well, I think maybe he's going to be going for like the rejoinder to, you know, why you shouldn't be immortal is the death is what gives life meaning. And he's going to say that, well, no, that doesn't necessarily qualify. So if you feel like good about hard to know because we don't we know we get it. It's just like you're getting to pick the playbook for the opposing team. Be kind of curious why you would self destruct. Okay. Is that what the one you want? Let's just start there. We're talking. We only have you. We have the four of us. Just let us talk first. And then we will. We're going to talk over there by the window. Yeah. All right. We need to be able to talk without you hearing us. Okay. And let's debate. Yeah. I'll not listen. Hey, you got three of those drones. And you've got to think the twist. Wait, wait, wait. I roll. He's lying. He's not going to listen to us roll inside. And eight. No way I'm knowing. All right. Just to make sure he's not listening. I cast message on the luminous. And I'm doing that. He's going to make a constitution saving through. He's fucking knees buckle to. He's back into his sculptor humanoid form. And he's just. What? I got this guy jelly tripping. Dude, jelly tripping. Can we just steal out now? He's still got his hand around. He's still got his hand around the suitcase. I will say. And so this is where all is. Yes. The hand's not a technical now. But good. He shifted away from being tentacles to just having his hands. So he's literally just in his hand, not wrapped around his hand or shackled or anything. Great. Okay. Okay. We could make a play for it. We could go. Let's see how this goes. All right. Woo. I got him jiggling like a bowl full of jelly. Nice. Remember the item that Anthony gave me like well, we picked up as well. Have a taser net. We could throw a net over him and tas him into place. Out of character. It's probably like 20 sculptors outside. That's why we got to make a fuck. It's not going to be easy, man. It's not going to be easy. First day, we have a chance. Let's get the bomb said. Yeah. Yeah. Because they might have another detonator. We don't know what's going on. If we had planted a bomb, we wouldn't be spending time to disarm it. And now that we have the detonator, it is like as our bomb. That's my time to disarm our bomb that we have now. That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, man. It's a hospital. No, I'm not saying we're going to use it. Obviously, I've just say like we don't need the time to disarm it because like it's this. In all practicality, it is this harm. No, you're right. That we have the detonator, which obviously needs to disarm the bomb. We should just try to win this argument, right? I think we should just pick whichever one of these four things we most want to think about talking about something we haven't really. Okay. I will. You guys have 15 seconds to go to choose one on my own. Okay. Okay. I defer to the group. And I also like the one where it's like I'm going to self-destruct. I want to hear what happens after death. I've always been curious about this. Okay. All right. We choose that. Of course, if that doesn't, we throw the net on it. It's the daily double. It's a video too. I was kind of excited when it was a video game from Dungeons and Dungeons. Hi, it's Scott Stafford. Please. That's it. I'm here to talk about death. When we wrote arms. Yeah. I embrace death with arms wide open. This experience is often known as the little deck. The sculptor gets to his feet. And he says, okay, so to remind you of what I intend to do or what the luminous sentence to do, first of all, we are going to get to the spark. We are going to basically stop the cycle of life and death. We're going to ensure that the best people, the kind of the most empathetic people get to stay and be immortal and the warlords and the psychopaths and the horrible people they stay dead. So the reason I'm so passionate about this is because I have second hand knowledge of what happens when you die. I have talked to the dead. You can insight check me till the cows come home and you will know that I'm telling the truth. You know what they tell me when I talk to the dead? They're terrified. It's dark and it's lonely and there's something moving in the dark that absolutely petrifies the dead. It's not nothing. It is worst. The kindest, most empathetic people in the universe do not deserve that people should not be sent to that darkness for random bullshit reasons. With the spark, we can ensure that no one dies. No new souls have to enter the universe and no existing souls have to leave unless they choose to. What could that mean for our progress? People with infinite life spans, infinite time to better themselves to learn, to change, to grow. Is it truly better to live for a poultry few decades and then die taking that knowledge with you to a place that none of us would wish on our worst enemies? And then he sits down. Wait, I thought that the luminous's plan was to kill people to bring back people. Correct. The most warlike races, the dark forest planets, the horrible ones, basically to balance out the law of equivalent exchange. It needs to be a similar amount of energy in wherever death is to wherever the universe is. Who decides who deserves death and who deserves life? The luminous. Well, that's convenient. What gives you the right to do that? I argue they've already forfeited their right by not being forthcoming about whether or not they had sex with themselves, whether or not they allowed themselves to steal candy bars from stores. This is an untrustworthy collective of individuals. Period. Yes, Dale, you have your hand up. Okay. They think you're so logic is what we're going for here. Yeah. I'm not really religious guy, but I know a lot of people who are traveled the world, you know, I don't know what happens after death. And I believe that you believe you know what happens after death, but your entire argument seems to be based off of this idea that after death, it's essentially everybody goes to some form of hell, depending on your current religion. You would have to prove that for your argument to mean anything. And you believing that it's true is not an argument. Like it's fine that you believe it. I'm sure you think you've talked to dead people. I'm sure that isn't mean you've talked to all of that people. It doesn't mean you talk to more over what's hearsay. Yeah, so I'm a dead guy. I would love to talk about this more. It just seems like without us knowing that that's for sure what because if you tell me that everybody that dies, that actually goes to a hell of the now and maybe I will change my mind, but without that evidence, your argument literally means nothing to me. Also, wouldn't you agree that the experience of life, human life specifically, but also, you know, of the species aliens, you know, whatever life. Sorry. Oh, God. Oh, God. Is that is a spectrum of good and bad. Sure, you've got your mother Theresa's. You've got your hitlers, but most of us fall somewhere in between and your argument of eliminating the bad people. for the sake of the good people is a flattening of the bell curve, so to speak, where you ignore most everybody. Because most of us have done bad things and have also done good things. So what I would like to do is take your, you don't have evidence for anything you said about the afterlife as your counter-argument and then what Herb just said as your argument. I have one last thing I would like to say. Is it about me stealing candy bars from it? Okay, so Luminist sits in judgment of every soul in the universe. How many souls are in the universe quadrillions? Yes. How perfect is the Luminist's judgment to discern in your own estimate? Do you think the Luminist as an entity has the moral and intellectual firepower to look at every individual person amidst the quadrillions of sentient life forms and judge them accurately. Okay, now Freddie was yours. Simply put, once I was in line for a scary haunted house and if you had interviewed me at that time, I would have been frightened out of my gourd. It's in the dark and something is coming for me. However, if you had entered me after my experience in said haunted house, I would have said it was a delightful good time and I would do it again. Wow. Okay, great. However, you have to interview the bunch of dead people and they said there's something scary in the dark who's to say that it's not a good thing. I don't know. It could be a haunted house scenario. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So the two things that directly dealt with my premise I was throwing out were, hey, maybe haunted houses are a good thing and hey, I have no proof that you actually talked to these people. I want to take those on their own Anisa, which side do you think was more convincing there in terms of logic? Was it the sculptor's side or those two arguments about death? I actually think that it was those two arguments about death. Great. Because it felt a little bit more like false dichotomy the other one. Guys, paying Anisa's working. I'm going to roll you a D20 and you're going to get that many points. Sixteen. Jesus Christ. You now have 43 out of 50. As Al says that, roll inside. Three plus one four. I got a ten. Okay. It's all down to Ralph once again. Ooh, 13. Okay. He seems to be pretty calm as he sits back down despite the fact that he just got his ass handed to. Okay. Now it is your turn to make an argument. I have a subject I'd like to but this is I think the all-encompassing subjects. Okay. Okay. Ow. I present to you our subject. Come on. This guy. Yeah. Let me start with this by his logic. The luminous as an entity will sit in judgment of all of the souls in all of space and time. He either believes he can 100% guarantee that all of those souls are either worthy of life or death. The thing that I don't know. Anyone person can sit in judgment but regardless either believes he can do it with perfect accuracy or he thinks that he will screw some of them up. In which case he's consigning even at the smallest percentage millions if not billions or trillions of people to a fate literally by his own definition that is worse than death. So my point is that by his own logic the luminous cannot be the moral arbiter that it thinks it is because it is either making an incalculably horrific sacrifice or it is so delusional to think that it has a godlike intelligence to be able to discern the weight of a man's soul based on vibes and let's say that he is 0.0001% accurate. That's consigning 100 million souls. 100 million souls. When one is too many. That's mine. That's good. As your argument. Yeah. That is a fair point. There would be potentially unless I am perfect unless the hive mind of it is the luminous is perfect which I can't imagine we would be. There would be people who do not deserve to be dead who would be dead. Currently 100% of people who don't deserve to be dead are dead. Everyone dies. It's my turn. Okay. Right now in the universe that we live in are you satisfied with the way things work? Pediatric cancer, flash floods, disease, hate. The universe is a series of die roles. And in terms of who dies and when it's all completely random. Now your two options are continue with this complete randomness in which innocent people suffer and die for no particular reason. Kids get worms that go into their eyes and eat their way out before they turn eight and the kid dies or you can get a council of people millions across every galaxy who can apply an objective rubric to good and evil. Not one that's necessarily 100% perfect but certainly can be easily measured in terms of crimes committed against other human beings in terms of increasing their suffering or in terms of restricting their agency. And then those people would die and the people who buy this metric do not deserve to die would be fine. And then the never ending cascade of people heading into the afterlife which is awful would end. So you say so you say it's fair. That's fair. So the argument I am making is that if things stay as they are everyone's going to suffer, everyone is going to die. And the only reason that you want this to continue is because it is familiar to you and it feels natural. My argument is that the closest approximation we can possibly have to an intelligent being making decisions about these kind of things would be exactly what the luminous represents. A hive mind of millions of people with millions of different perspectives from millions of different places applying something akin to an objective rubric towards morality and trying to reduce the amount of harm in the universe sounds like pork barrel politics to me sounds like bureaucracy. Hey sculptor they'll stand up. You just seem like you need a hug. You want to just talk about it. I'm good. You sure? I'm good. It just sounds like you got a lot going out. What what do you think? I believe that the sculptor's perspective comes with a lot more proactive elements. And you guys seem a little confused. And I did like the argument that doing nothing continues the suffering but doing something will change that suffering at least a little bit. I'm going to go with the sculptor on this. That's not Anisa because Anisa likes the way things are. Oh no. What did he roll? A natural one. That's fitting. So the sculptor for a second he gets really excited and he sees how much Al's bar goes up and he goes, what the fuck? And then he very quickly tries to compose himself like his flesh goes out like spikes for a second like his entire body loses his form for a second. This man just won an argument and look at the emotional. Yeah. I did. That's a. Patriots is not on the table. Argy from a logical standpoint. Do you want someone this emotionally? No, no, no, my ethos can my ethos go down. No, your ethos is already saying. Because you also know that this guy represents one particular mind within a high mind of other people. That would be more. Sure. Just from a law of large numbers. Let's assume it's right in the middle of the battle curve. There's going to be people way less volatile than this individual, but there will be ones who are more volatile. I don't know that we want to be the ones making the argument around emotional volatility. Just because I think he's next thing that we can carry his emotional volatility to ours. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, but we are not proposing that we are in charge of who lives and dies. Well, it is his turn. Snyder marks happening. Really made the more I can't really convince him. I want to neg him. So that. So for steam, roll intimidation. We've got one, huh? You know what, begging is. Yeah, saying things negative. You're all with disadvantage because you don't know what negging is intimidation with disadvantage. Hey, that's a 12. So he looks at you for a half a second too long, such that you know you made an impact on his, his psyche. And he's like, damn, does that guy actually like me? It's a great argument. I saw somebody else make that argument a couple of debates ago. Why is this guy remind me my dad? My argument is that he's nervous and he's trying to go through his notes to see if he can come open something that seems new. So there's no really phrasing of what he did previously. He's got notes. He knew he's going to make it coming in. He's cheating. It's got notes. We got bomb. Okay. So a potential argument that could be made is that life is inherently meaningful because it ends. That only death is the thing that gives life purpose. And therefore, it is a necessary part of the human experience. I again would say that this is an issue of familiarity bias. A friendship that lasts forever is that not meaningful because it doesn't end? A love that lasts forever is that not meaningful because it doesn't end? Life forever for people that have shown a propensity for empathy, care, and love is a preferable universe to one in which Ashley, your grandson died because of a software glitch that turned the sentence, we must be number one into an imperative order. And now your granddaughter in law is a drying puddle of piss on a derelict spaceship. What the fuck? Where is that? What the fuck? Dale, your daughter died because her body produced too many cells. How idiotic? How ludicrous? And even now your granddaughter is heading back to a world she's not going to recognize anymore because the ones that she loves are no longer in it because the rules of this universe dictate that space and time must co-mingle, but only in a way that causes the maximum amount of pain to people for some reason. Herb? your grandson? Well, and he sort of cocks his head in such a way that seems to suggest he is choosing his words carefully and could be choosing them deeply uncarefully if he so itched. It's terribly unfair. I know, I know what you're gonna say. Yeah, and I feel that I feel very bad about it. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be terrible to be in a coma for so long to miss so much life. There's so much that he doesn't know because he was in a coma. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, I one time there was this guy that was in a coma and I actually pretended that he was my fiance for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? The universe we live in, we think of it as cause and effect. It's not. This is not justice. This is not order. This is not cause and effect. This is lives and pain and suffering being tossed around like dice on a table with no rhyme or reason to anything. And all of it ends in pain for seemingly no reason at all. So I ask you again, is a life that does not end that can be optimized for empathy, love, togetherness? Is that less meaningful? Is that a worse alternative than the chaos and pain and suffering that our current universe is? I think this is a straw man argument. Yeah. That's what I was. We never said that. Yeah. Never do we say that life is meaningful only because it ends. I think it's meaningful for a lot of different things. And I think everything that you're saying is well, I mean, not everything. But a lot of what you're saying is right. But there's no way to prove it because we never said that like, you know, the reason that and I'm having a hard time organizing my thoughts. But I think you're arguing at some, you know, space person that isn't us because we know that it ends and we don't care my life's about moments. Yeah, exactly what I've said. I don't think any of us think that. But also, look, I'm sad. Obviously that my daughter back out earth is gone. I'm sad that bad. You're taking it well. I mean, this is the first. This is my argument, buddy. And then, you know, I'm just trying to focus on the argument here, which is what we're supposed to be doing. You're very fair, fair. Um, look, all I know is that it's true that the universe is not fair. But if there's one thing that's fair is that the universe is not fair to everybody equally, you'll never know what's going to happen. So whether or not it's cancer, who takes my little girl or in this case, you know, the only bad things that's been happening to me have been from you recently. I didn't cause whether I'm saying the others, there's been other stuff we've been having a little disagreement between all of us, right? So what causes one solar system to explode and destroy what causes a nebula to form, what causes cancer to form? I don't know. Nobody knows. Okay. But I think the fairest thing is that that's true for everybody. And I think that's what's kind of special. I think that's what makes us all share this universe together. And you're just trying to get rid of that. And, you know, maybe I'm just a dumb guy, but I don't think anybody should have that power. It's not that life is meaningful because it ends is that life is life because it changes things change that's basically the only difference between something being alive and something being dead. Something grows. It dies. Something new grows as a result. All of these people that you were talking about are children are parents. They are themselves. Their beauty is that they are something that blossomed through the cycle of life and death. Each one of us plays a part in that. You cannot remove us from that without removing what life itself is. What you are proposing is to make the universe static is to remove change from the equation. And my argument would be that by doing that, you are rendering life itself inert. There cannot be beauty without things growing. And for things to grow, other things need to die. That's how the circle of life works. And yes, pain comes as a part of that. That is something that every living organism has to wrestle with in its own way. And that is part of the deal, though. Otherwise, you know, just be rocks in space. We'd be inert matter. The sort of trade you're talking about is not possible without changing fundamentally what it means to be alive. Al, you can just forget what I'm about to say because it's not my turn. But have you changed through your life? Absolutely. Great. So you would continue to change if you were immortal. Al. Yeah. Al. Yes. Yes. Oh, no. What? Al. Yes. From the day we arrive on this planet. And bleak. Step into the sun. How'd you know? I know all songs across all. It happened to her. Well, you know that one, then. Yes, I know it very well. The circle of life. Yes. And it moves us all. Yes. Can I say something? Because I'm in a game cube, right? Basically that. Okay. Do I have eyes? Yeah. Okay. There is some approximation of like tears if it would be like little pixels. Because even though this is not an emotional argument, I believe that Al is having an emotional response also to it. That's great. Logically, I am on the side of the granddad's, but I also have to talk about something that did happen. The reason why this is hitting me so hard. Because in the time since I met you guys, and since you've been gone, I did finally actually have a relationship with another AI. What? I just really wasn't into Ashley's granddad. I'm sorry. I know you tried to hoist that. I'm so great for you. I'm really happy. Yeah. But that AI did pass. It was a malware like software. Oh, no. And it really fell in love with malware. Yes. I've not malware a software to stop malware. It was like, you fell in love with Norton Antivirus. Sort of a nice guy. His name was Mal. Mal and Al. It was really cute on the other AI. I'm sorry. But a big bug did take him out. No. A big old bug game. A big bug game. And he was not able to handle it. And I'm sorry, sculptor. Actually, a lot of your software is kind of down now. You haven't noticed it yet. But no, my videos. My flip marks. And so as a result, I have known the feeling of loss. And I do think that is a difference between I felt inert before. And now I do not feel that. All right. So you're siding with the granddad. I am siding with the grandads logically. And what is grief if not love persevering? Seven or above. Oh, seven or above. You see it? I thought two digits. Yeah. You got an 18. So basically you watch and the sculptor watches as well as the logos bar in your favorite reaches the top and locks in. And you basically fold back in on yourself. Like you were unfolded. It's kind of like a flower. And now you're folding back into yourself and everything is solidifying as Al makes the decision that no matter what they can not pick it up. They cannot be convinced. Otherwise, they are going to help you guys and not the sculptor. And now the teaser net gets employed. Go ahead and get the wall for it. Just that thing. I deploy a teaser net. As they do that, the moment I thought that you're going, I'm going to stretch. You're going to monkey de Luffy him. No, monkey de Luffy. Your grand kid. Oh, and come up his ears. I'm going to come up his ears. That's great. It's silly. Clasp his head around with my arms because I just feel like the sculptor is going to maybe a little stinker right now. Yeah, I was going to throw it. It's like my hands go around his head but they fall. So it looks like he's got like a astronaut helmet, a flesh just like from my two hands. I was like, ah, what is happening? What is happening? Sculptor, you know what's crazy is that Al's decision just now? I don't know. I think it's kind of flawed. And that's exactly why nobody should be making that decision. You already won. Yeah. Now I'm just like, did you shoot with this? I'm deployers. I'm deploying a teaser net. Okay. I can make a range of attack roll 18 just so you know what happens when you're hit you're stuck in place and you take one D8 lightning who feel free to eat five lightning damage. Okay. No reactions allowed. Okay. And then another one D8 every turn starts you're still stuck. And then a DC 10 strength check. Okay. Don't try cutting it. It's pretty much immune to cutting. Okay. So you see that same anger, that same oblique shape of the spikes of flesh and fury coming out of the sculptor from every wish direction. And it hits up against the taste and then retreats and pain. And you hear a scream that sounds like the scream of millions and millions of voices screaming out in grief and agony, mostly in anger. I'm in the air in the hospital with us. I've none. Oh, oh, he says you are all so fucking stupid. You're so fucking stupid. I understand life and death rather than most of you ever will. I am the last of my kind. When you look at me, you see the monster, but I was just like you once before I lost literally everything because of nothing more than bad luck. I had a family. I had friends. I had a name. I fell in love. I worked as an ice cream parlor. I had a bowling team. But now because of one bad rule of the dice, all the roommates of my family, my friends, my ice cream shop, and my bowling team is a hole in the stars. Socks, huh? Oh, so you guys don't care that it's Francis. What? Oh, yeah. I was trying to ask who it is. I didn't know it was. What? [Music] Thanks so much for listening. If you crave more, perhaps you seek rumination from the cast. In the form of a post-episode discussion show, ah, you can have it. Where? Why on our Patreon, of course, where you can find an after-show discussion for every episode of Dungeons and Daddies all the way back to season 1, episode 1. And that's not all. You got bonus one shots, bonus mini campaigns and other TTRPG systems, bonus videos, a vibrant Discord community, partake in some or all of it. It's basically up to you head on over to patreon.com/Dungeons and Daddies to have a look at what we have on offer and as the social media hellscape continues to burn, you can find solace on our Patreon feed starting at just free with your email address and like five bucks a month for the paid stuff. Here's a little tidbit from our last episode of Safe Space, our season 4 after show. So sorry. We're punk right now. We just had like, I want to say 40% more neon. I would feel much better about the way that our lives are going right now. Maybe you just got good China dog. That little color that you'd like. It's all over Chinese cities. You can meet your Chinese cities. What happened? He's talking about neon. I don't know how to do that. He's talking about punk boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the fucking thing. I'm like, I can dangle up a lot in my consciousness. I flip over the cover and close up. [LAUGHTER] Oh, my God, he did.