S1E1 - "24 Hours"

Hi, this is Daniel. One of the voices you're going to hear on the very first episode of setting the tone of DR retrospective here in just a minute. I'm assuming if you're hearing this, you're listening to the show for the very first time, which if you are, thank you. Welcome. I'm recording this in mid-October 2023, which is roughly four years after we recorded this episode of season one, episode one, the pilot. I'm recording this because we never, when we recorded this episode way back in 2019, we never really expected we would still be at this four years later. We never really expected we would get this far. We certainly never expected that this show and this episode would be downloaded tens of thousands of times and people listening to it and re-listing to it, people who were watching the show for the hundreds of time and people who were watching the show for the first time. As a kind of happy accident with that, there have been people who are experiencing ER for the very first time who are tuning into our show, which is exciting, but also terrifying because we do sort of play fast and loose with spoilers. We always, when we originally conceived the idea to do this podcast, we always did it with the understanding that it would be a retrospective, that it was for people who were re-watching the show. We had never really considered or expected it to be for people who were watching the show for the very first time and who might be concerned about spoilers. So this is kind of a disclaimer that if you are watching the show for the very first time and you are watching along or trying to listen along with us as you watch, there will be discussion of future plot points and how they impact earlier events in the show. So if you are listening for the first time and you're concerned about spoilers, I'm strongly, strongly, strongly recommending that you put us on pause, go finish watching the show for the first time, then come back and listen to us afterwards. If you're not concerned about spoilers, great. I hope you enjoy. But I know that we've had some people who felt that their experience watching the show was a little bit, I don't want to say ruined but affected by the kind of loose discussion of future plot points that we do sometimes. So this hopefully we'll get ahead of that a little bit, make it a little bit more of a kind of known thing that, hey, spoiler discussion might come up from time to time. The show will, you know, we have no intentions of stopping at this point. We just, as I said, we're, as I'm recording this in mid-October 2023, we're just wrapping up season nine. So we're, you know, we're going to be around for a while the show will always be there for you when you finish your first watch through. Come back, rejoin us, revisit the show in real time with us just like we did. And hopefully you'll get something out of it, but we definitely don't want to impact or ruin anybody's experience watching the show for the first time. So hopefully this makes that clear. There will be discussion of future plot points. Please, if you are concerned about spoilers, put us on pause, go finish your watch through and then come back and join us for setting the tone to your retrospective. So if you are listening for the first time and you are going to keep going, definitely please enjoy and stick with us. Our audio quality does get much better after like, I don't know, episode five. Thanks gang, bye. [Music] Hello and welcome into the very first episode of Setting the Tone and ER retrospective. The show we're doing episode by episode breakdown of the television series ER. My name is Elizabeth and with me today are Lauren and Daniel. Hello. Hey, and since this is the very first episode, I figure I give you a little bit of information about the show ER is a TV series that ran from 1994 until 2009, 15 seasons. I think approximately 330 episodes somewhere in there. I need to look that up again. 331 by my count. 331. That's, yeah, so that's what we're signing up for. Today we'll be discussing the very first episode. Sometimes we're doing pilot but officially elicit as 24 hours as the official title name aired on September 19th, 1994, my birthday. And had a runtime of one hour and 27 minutes, a double episode to premiere, which ended up working up for the best because there is a sh*t on in this episode. Yeah, this, it feels every bit like a feature-length movie. Like it could have easily, like if the show didn't get picked up, I think it could have easily stood alone as a, as just a movie and just be done with that. Well, that and we also noticed as we were doing our rewatch that so many of the tropes and goofs that show up throughout the 15 year run are established even in this pilot episode. Oh, yeah. That seems like 90% of the stuff. But like, not at least like from medical perspective, it seems like 90% of the stuff that you'll see throughout the different series and just all the different, you know, the surgery, the trauma centers, the actual like triage and stuff like that. You see that all right, they smack you over the head with it in this, in this first episode. Yeah, they established a lot of the like threads that carry through not only like, not only like you said, like the tropy stuff, but also to like a lot of the kind of character interaction things, like they establish quite a bit. It's kind of remarkable how much they establish in the pilot episode. Like it doesn't feel like a standalone thing. Like a lot of pilots do. Like a lot of pilots kind of stick out like a sore thumb when compared to the rest of it. Take the office, for example, the first episode of the office looks like a completely different show compared to what you get for the remaining whatever seven, eight seasons it is. But for this, like this, like the set is, I understand the set is a little bit different because they were actually filming in an actual hospital for this one. But other than that, like this, the like set doesn't look too dramatically different from the way that it looks the rest of the show. The most of the cast sticks around. Like I don't, I think there's only one that I can think of off top of my head, like minor character who doesn't stick around after the pilot episode. And we just kind of hit the ground running from there. I mean, it's it's remarkable how quickly they got into the formula and we're able to just go. Yeah, well, you especially, like you mentioned, well, actually first off confession time, I've never, I don't actually like the office. I think it's really stupid. But and I've never watched it hate me. That's that's the reaction I was expecting. I'm more of a parks and recreation person. That can be our second pod kit. You redeemed yourself there. That's fine. Yeah, but no, like what I actually didn't know that I actually know that they actually filmed this one the first episode in a actual hospital. Do you have any idea where it was or was it like just on it like in Los Angeles where most of the rest of the show is filmed or yeah, it was in Los Angeles. It was a I'm trying to remember what the name of it was. I know it because this is 94 is when it comes out. So yeah, I'm assuming they would have been filming this in like either early 94 or late 93. I'm not sure. I think it was actually 94 though because I was reading in some of the casting notes that like they started casting five weeks before filming. So they had Jesus they had no one cast like they they had no time to get this set. So I'm sure it was in 94. But the actual hospital they were filming at had only stopped being like an actual hospital in 1990. So it was a hospital in Los Angeles. And when they went to go like do the full series order, they couldn't film there on a regular basis. So they they built the set kind of based off of that hospital. So there are little minor there's little minor differences here and there. Like there's a particular part of the ER like that we all know that we all like that you see carry through throughout the rest of the show. There's a little tiny part of that ER that is not there in the pilot. It's like I think they said it's like curtain three. It's like a really distinct part of the ER that they said if you look compare like do shop by shop comparisons. It's not there in the pilot, but it is there an episode too because they just they switched over to an actual set. So I just thought that was interesting like being that they were in an actual hospital yet they managed to like take that look and replicate it over into the the like designed set. I think that's kind of the coolest thing about this is how much it's one of the things I really love about the shows how much attention to detail there is from not only just like the set design but like the terminology and the way things are written and just I don't know like everything seems like it's got a purpose nothing seems like it's extra or filler. The only thing I would say to that is that with the attention to details yes a lot of like they got all the stuff like in the hospital right but one thing that actually super bugs me is just how wrong they are about like the city proper was like actually like well yeah. Well too funny because I was just about to say how much I love that it's such a love note to Chicago even if they do miss some of those nitty gritty details you can tell like the constant comments on the weather and just the way they approach kind of that small town big city feel when they're doing the out of the ER shots I think. Yeah like even Even in this episode, the weather just changes on a dime, which actually does happen every now and then in Chicago. For context, Lauren and I are, do you live in Chicago and I have lived in the Chicago Island area for all of my life. Lauren and I have lived together here in the city proper for the last seven and a half years. Dania and Dania, I think was, was that your first time ever in the city when we saw you a big time? Yeah, that was my first time ever in Chicago. I might have spent longer than I care to admit trying to find the actual ER hospital before I realized it was fictional. I want to talk about it. It's not a big deal. We don't need to like dwell on it or anything. We could have lied to you and told you that like rush was. It's fine. I'm over it. But it's so it is, we should say that up front. County general is a fictional hospital in Chicago. Yes. I mean, how deep into the weeds do we want to go here? Like, because we can take it, this fucker has roots all the way back to 1974. Like this is literally 20 years in the making, not unlike this podcast. Well, 20 years in the making. Daniel, how about this? You take us through those tumultuous 20 years of destiny and then I will set us up with the headlines of the premiere date and set us up for a good picture of where we actually were as a people when this episode aired. No, I love it. So basically Michael Crickton, Critchton, whatever the fuck name is. Everybody's favorite. Dinosaur loving, but yet climate change denying weirdo. He, so he was like a Harvard medical school student and he was an emergency room intern. And so this was in the 70s and he wrote a screenplay at the time titled ED for emergency department. And basically nobody showed any interest. They were like, fuck off Harvard boy. We don't want to register script. Nobody cares. And so basically he, he kept writing, but he turned his attention to other projects. One of those other projects being a little book about dinosaurs called Jurassic Park. So basically what I'm saying is that where it not for ER, you would not have Jurassic Park. So thanks. And what were it not for Jurassic Park? You wouldn't have ER. Exactly. Because so from there, like, and this is, we're glossing over like 15 years of in-between stuff here. But basically at some point he hooks up with Steven Spielberg. Heard of him. Kind of familiar. Sounds right. I don't think I have. He's done a few movie that the terminal familiar with the terminal. Oh, but of course, classic. That's everybody's go to. I forgot that he did, I forgot that he did that one. So he hooks up with Spielberg and they Spielberg is super interested in making Jurassic Park. They work together on that and it's a big success. So after that, he convinced Spielberg to work with him on developing ER. So they shop it around to all the studios, NBC takes the bait and says, you know, get us a pilot. So basically he just takes that script from 1974, makes a few small changes. The only real substantive changes from the script to or the screenplay to what you saw in the pilot included. Benton was originally a white guy and then they made him black. Lewis seems for the best. That was change. Yeah. They all seem like pretty positive changes. Like Lewis was originally a male and they made her female. Thank you. Yeah. And what was the other one? The other one was not. This one was actually a really late. This was actually Spielberg's like one and only like big contribution to the show. Is that originally getting a display territory for the episode originally half away was supposed to die and Spielberg convinced Crichton. That's why she's list. If you look in the beginning of the show, if you look in the credits, Juliana Margulese is listed as a special guest star. She's not listed as part of the rest of the cast. I actually noticed that. I was actually curious about that. Thank you for doing all this research for us. I comes with the facts. So basically she was supposed to die at the end of the first episode and Spielberg talked Crichton in to keep in her around because he felt like she had a really good dynamic with Clooney and that she just kind of fit well with the rest of the cast. So they kept her around and yeah, pretty much from there it's kind of what you see is what you get. They did make some minor cuts here and there for time because they're trying to fit it into that two hour time slot on TV. But yeah, pretty much the 1974, like he went 20 years and made, you know, able to take something pretty much carbon copy and apply it to 1994 is super cool. Alright, so maybe just before we went on a little thing before we head into like the actual episode proper, I think do we want to mention just sort of like what ER, like how it was in our lives because I'm 30. And I'll be 31 as of this, as of the release of this podcast. Lauren is 27. Good job. You know, your fiance is eight. And how old are you Daniel? I am 29 going on 30. Okay, so yeah, this is all sort of a childhood phenomenon for us, like at least while it was on TV yet. I mean, I know, you know, for me it was, it was the show, it was the one like late night show, Quonkel late night was 9 o'clock for me when I was in elementary school in this debut. Yeah, I turned six on the day that this, that this debut, happy birthday to me. You're stealing my thunder. That was going to be one of my headlines. Oh, well, happy headline. Lizzie turned six. Yeah, so it was just sort of the, it was like the thing that my mom and I did together and we watched pretty much every single episode together through the end of season eight and where I hopped off for a little bit because I was so distraught that Dr. Green had died because he's my, whoa, so I like this episode one. We got to like, come on, we got 331 of these fucking things to do. Bish, I think that's a, that's a 20 year old spoiler almost, you know, like 17, but our audience may be coming to this fresh. Well, then that's their problem. Yeah, so I sort of hopped off the train for a while and kind of got back on closer to season like 13 when it fully, the show had fully jumped the shark and gone, what a terrible time to jump back in. You know, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the character. Oh, no, there's definitely good stuff in there, but it's just, and then had all the feelings with the season finale, which we'll get to in like six years. So yeah, and then I own all the DVDs. I've watched through the entire series, I think. I forget if it's like four or five times, I've seen at least every single episode. And then now that it's on Hulu, I go through and I just occasionally just pop in some of my favorite episodes. And it's just, it's my favorite TV show of all time. And it has had a huge impact on my life. And I am a transgender person and my name Elizabeth actually comes from Dr. Elizabeth Corday, famed surgeon Alex Kingston. Um, um, baddest bitch. Yes. Um, so because she was like the most positive, the most positive woman role model I could think of. And like the highest, like the highest standard I could try to hold myself to was her. So, uh, yeah. So Warren, what was the show like for you? Well, this can be real boring after that little heart to heart. For me, I was only two years old when this first episode came out. I never really watched it too much growing up. It was really something more that my sister, who's six years older than me and my dad, rest in peace. They watched together regularly and it was really something that, you know, I'd see in passing, my sister was obsessed with it, but I was familiar enough with the characters, but it was never really my show growing up. I had missed the boat a little bit on being super engaged with it. So when Elizabeth and I moved in together and she decided, hey, let's go ahead and watch the whole series. It was like, yeah, we'll give it a shot. Sure. I enjoyed what I saw. Let's, let's go for it. And as we watched the series and as I came to really discover all of the throughlines and story arcs and just how deeply all of these characters are developed and have seamlessly we transition from one cast to another throughout the years, I just realized that there was something magical about this show. And so when we joked about doing the podcast two years ago, three years ago, it stuck. And I realized that, a, this gives me another excuse to rewatch the whole series and not seem like a total crazy person, but be it's a chance to really share a lot of that with other people and point out things that other people might not have noticed and hey, have audience members share with us things that we might, that we might totally gloss over. So, then what about you, Daniel? Well for me, like kind of been a similar experience. to Lauren, like I was a couple years older, so I think 94 I was five, probably five or six. So I was like, ER was the go to bed show. Like ER was the, if you hear the theme music, because I grew up on the East Coast, so for me it was at 10 o'clock. So it was definitely too late for me to be watching. So I kind of have like this almost like Pavlovian response to the theme song of like the theme song almost makes me want to go to bed. Like because like I would hear it like coming out from under my parents bedroom door and like that means it's time to go to bed. It's the ER is on. And but I would catch you know episodes here and there nights where I couldn't sleep or if I was you know home from school on vacation for whatever reason. Like I would catch episodes here and there. My mom was a huge fan of it when it first came out. I think she stuck with it through most of the the whole entire run. I'm not sure if she fell off or not. But it was one of those shows that I was always just kind of like peripherally aware of. And as I got older, I wanted to kind of explore it a little bit more. I was really kind of drawn to the longevity of it. And the fact that it was able to stay so relevant while undergoing so many different cast revisions like you said, like this thing has a hundred percent cast turnover like from the first episode. Like all of the main cast. And they still managed to stay some kind of relevant the whole time. And it's I don't know. I just thought there was something cool about that. Like something cool about such a simple concept that if done well enough, it didn't necessarily matter. And I also too like. So another part of it is my wife, who you will probably hear on this show at some point, giving her input on kind of she's a nurse. So she watching this show with her has been kind of a cool experience because she is very quick to point out what is what is right. What's not right. What's outdated. What's you know, like so she's real quick to point out like they don't do that anymore. And here's why or we would never do it like that. That's a terrible idea. You would kill a person if you did that. Like so it's kind of like it sounds almost annoying, but it's really not like it's kind of like, I don't know, it adds an element to it for me. I'm kind of adds to the tension and the drama, honestly. But so like, you know, it's kind of a thing that she and I can share where she gets to kind of like pick it apart from a technical aspect. And I get to sort of like cherry pick and bring her it because she's not a big pop culture like obsessive like I am. So trying to like go through and be like, because this show is full of like before they were famous. Oh yeah, there's so many like, so many little cam, so many little shorter roles and just so many. Well, we're gonna mention that as we go along for sure, for sure. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And so like, it's it's me kind of getting a chance to you know, geek out and be like, oh my god, that's you know, whoever the fuck and she's like, who? I don't know. There's a guy in the corner that they just gave the wrong drug to and you want me to care about, you know, Robert lotion, random character actor. Right, you know, they, so it's kind of an interesting like dynamic when the two of us watch it together. So we went through and watched, so I've only done, I'm nowhere near on busy level. I have not done a five, five time episode watch through, but I got one under my belt. I got one, three, 31 full episode watch through on under my belt. This will be my second time going through it. Last time we went through the whole series in about eight months. So I'm looking forward to watching maybe like piecing it out a little bit more and digesting it a little bit slower instead of watching like four episodes at night and just powering through it. Yeah, there are a lot of little details you can you miss. You miss in there. There's lots of little things you can miss and there's lots of, it can get a little bit overwhelming to like it. This is a show and we're going to when we get into like the actual episode like, this is a show that feels like a car crash sometimes like you are kind of thrust right into the middle of the action. And if you're not ready for it or if you are, if you're watching like I was like three, four, five episodes at a time, it can get exhausted. Oh, yeah, for sure. And so like, this is a good, I think this is a perfect entry point to just like bring you into the world of an ER. So I mean, considering I took three pages of notes on the pilot episode alone. Well, it is a double episode. There's still a lot to digest. Yeah. Yeah, most episodes for reference. If anyone actually is watching, watching along with us for the first time, which I don't know, I'd necessarily recommend that because we're probably going to be talking about a lot of future stuff too. So lots of spoilers. Yeah, normal episodes, it was in one hour TV drama on usually on Thursday nights on NBC for its original run. But yeah, that's like I said, this one is an hour and 27 minutes long. So like Daniel saying is basically a feature length movie if you think about it, which is ridiculous. Yep. And this is also the only episode in the entire 331. This is the only episode that aired on a Monday, every other episode was a Thursday. But this one actually aired on Monday and it went up against Monday night football over on I think ABC at the time. Yeah. Yeah. So they kind of used it as a they used it as kind of like a test case. Like can it do well against Monday night football, which it very much did 23.8 million people watch this episode. I'm heard of today. That's a lot of people. Yeah, like yeah, you don't get anywhere near that with with a live. I mean, it's also that's a product of the times of procting being 1994, not 2019, where everything's on demand and right. So should we get into what was going on at the time and get into the actual me to the episode? Yeah, sure. I learned you want to read a little battle off a couple of little 1994 facts. I sure was having this week. So first and foremost, my dearest Lizzie turned six. Happy birthday, Lizzie. Jamie. The number one movie at the time was Time Cop. The number one song was All Make Love To You by Boys to Men. And the US lands 3000 troops in Haiti to restore the democratically elected government back to power. You say you are okay. Never mind. And we never interfered in another country's affairs. No, never. I don't know where you're talking about. All right, moving time isn't isn't Time Cop. Wasn't that like it might confuse what was the game that was in like arcades with the gun time crisis. Time crisis. Yeah, yeah, time. I was actually the time crisis is the feeling like on game. You had five letters, right? Yeah, close enough. Just added a few extra ones in there. It's fine. All right. So anyway, so actually getting into the actual episode, uh, you want to start with their first audio clip? Yeah. Well, so getting into getting into the episode will actually start with the very first lines that were actually ever spoken on the show. Uh, little conversation between Dr. Green and Lydia, one of the nurses. Dr. Green. Dr. Green. What is it? Patient for you, Dr. Green. Get the intern taken. Nice for you. What time is it? Five o'clock. All right. Can't the intern take it? It's Dr. Ross. Dr. Ross. I'll be right there. The excitement in his voice when he's like Dr. Ross. Yeah. Like he's like so, which that's also like one of the more fascinating parts of this episode for me is the whole like Clooney is a drunk thing, which is like that. That's one of those things that like they do sort of touch on that a little bit throughout his run on the show like of where he's he's single guy like he's a bachelor. He's he gets and get he parties a little bit too much and like get himself and yeah, he's a womanizer. He parties too much. He gets himself into, you know, messes that he probably shouldn't. But the whole like Clooney is a drunk who needs to like come to the ER and get fluids and get a banana back. Green. After a long time. Right. Like that that never comes up ever again. Like they drop that immediately, which I think is really interesting. It's one of the few little like threads that they start here in the pilot that they do not pick up on after that. Like it's like they allude to him being a partier and they allude to him being a wild man. But never again is he referred to as like somebody who would show up to his job. I think it's more like they played up like the womanizer like ladies man type side of that a lot more, especially as his relationship with nurse halfway sort of weaves, weaves and ebbs and flows through its whole five six. I forget when I forget the exact season one they run off together, spoiler alert. Yeah, but that just seems to be like the one like throw through through thread however you want to say it. Yeah, it just seems to me like they soften the edges on him a little bit. Like it seems like his original incarnation was much more of the kind of tragic figure of just like he's this brilliant doctor, but he's also a complete and total mess in his personal life. And then they kind of just went away from that. They were like no, no, no, he's actually a really nice guy, but he's also just you know, he's a womanizer, but no, he's not an alcoholic though. Like we're not gonna like we're not gonna go down that road. I don't know, it's just I don't have him saying he's under the weather and asking for his own drugs while he's drunk in the ER. Right, and then have him doing patient care less than 10 minutes it's later. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a couple hours at that point, but like how much can a banana glorified say glorified saline really really do for you? Well, and I completely forgot in the like two years since I last watched these, I completely forgot he was a pediatrician. And so I was like, oh my god, they have this man taking care of children. Yeah, and he's fantastic at it, which we find out later in this episode. Right. And throughout the entire of his run on the show, he is absolutely fantastic with kids. And God, he's beautiful. Though he is rocking this 1994 Caesar cut. Well, it's 1994. They're all we have a couple Caesar cut was big. Caesar cut was big. It's honestly fascinating to watch Clooney on his run on the like you can almost mark where he is in his career by his haircut. And like you can tell, you can tell when he goes off to do Batman. Like he's he's still on ER and you can tell when he goes off to do Batman because his haircut is just I just have to say right now though, although there are many great and magical friendships throughout this entire series, Ross and green will be my one bro TP forever. Ross and green is a good one. I'm myself. I am partial to Ben to the yeah, that's that's got to be Ben and Carter for me as well. And that's fair. But I think it's I think you were talking like best friends. I think you could probably argue Ross and Ross and green, but I think hence the bro TP. That's yeah. I'm just trying to think like because I was because I was see like and we'll get into the say we'll get into actually when they meet for the first time, Ben and Carter later in this episode. Yes. Which is fantastic and has a great audio clip from it. I was like that sort of teacher student thing never really sort of goes away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like a it's not a father son thing. It's they make it very clear that it's not a father, but it's almost like a like big brother little brother. Yeah. Like he's constantly trying to get Benton's approval and like it he will only let it out in like very small instances. And then oh my god. There's so much that this there's just miles of stuff to dig into with that. So Dr. Green hooks his body up with banana bag tells him to go hang out and curtain to for a while. And we get Dr. Ross. I'll hooked up and then we have Susan Lewis come and start talking to Dr. Green about his personal life. I completely forgot he had a wife other than Elizabeth. And I think it's because I willingly blocked this woman out because that's because she is off the court air just are just just the best that's just the best. We start to hear about you know we get hints about how unhappy Dr. Green is in his marriage. They're talking about how you know they never see each other and his wife wants him to go and take this job interview. So we're starting to see some of the tension that's built up there. Yeah. She's she's something else. But I mean I don't know I don't know how I feel about it honestly. Like she's not given a ton to work with like she's a character that she's a character that you never really you never really get any sort of insight from her perspective. Like everything is is from his perspective like she wants him to make more money and she wants him to work less and all that stuff. And it's like all very like his perspective and you almost never really get hers. They do honestly they do more with with Rachel the daughter throughout the course of the show than they ever do with Jennifer. Like Jennifer gets no shine whatsoever. Oh yeah no yeah especially when so yeah especially when the daughter blanking on her name. Rachel. Rachel. Yeah Rachel especially in that whole season eight arc that she has it's she's absolutely fantastic and I and her character actually just becomes like a character. But I can't I can't feel like they're both sort of pushed to the side for a lot of time. It's just like this thing like oh Dr. Green has a quote unquote family over here and his wife always nagged him which to be fair her her her requests not almost at demands but they're not really demands. Her requests are very reasonable when you're you know married to someone. Hey I'd like to see you more. Hey I would like it if we could if you could be a more of a dad to your daughter. Kind of my thing I'm hesitant to like completely write her off as just to you know stuck up bitch. Like it's she has reasonable requests like you are a father with a daughter like I get you're a doctor and I get you're helping people that's great but also you have this other responsibility and so I mean it's it's kind of a double it's just you both bring up a good point but it's just the way they portray her it makes it so hard on first blush to see that and I just like in my notes I'm gonna be honest and this is terrible of me I actually put fuck Jennifer because just that the way they portray her when he and when they're quick grabbing lunch together or breakfast or whatever time it is at this point yeah she just that actress nails it for exactly how they had that character written and it's just that immediate visceral response of no we feel sympathetic to Dr. Green already how can you be treating him like this and it's it's just they do such a good job portraying that and having your first impressions of this character have her be so unapproachable. Yeah and the whole like like then they they at the same time well I guess not anything exact same time but in this within the same episode they also try to introduce the like parallel arc of like him and Lewis's relationship slash friendship thing it's I like it too but I also feel like it's so much unrealized potential like they just never really fully explore it like they kind of just you know dance on the surface of it a little bit and they just never really they never really take it anywhere but part of that is you know casting changes and things like that which is all stuff that comes up later on down the road but it's just it's interesting how that all kind of starts out they like they take no time whatsoever to you know ease you into things like they start throwing heavy duty plot threads at you like within the first half of the episode. Well I will say with the friendship between Dr. Green and Dr. Lewis those type of friendships do exist in real life and yes you could say it's wasted potential but that's also just how life happens sometimes. That's true yeah it is very realistic in that way like it's they don't people don't always end up together and people don't always you know go down those roads so yeah that's that's the good forest through the trees. Yeah I mean it's important it's important I feel like I feel like Susan becomes a really like already is established like even just in this little beginning and becomes more of just a really important friend to Dr. Green and I think that's really important to represent that on mainstream and mainstream TV is just like even though they store even though they do play with it a lot like a sort of a will they won't they type of thing throughout throughout the seasons but like for the most part they're just friends and that's they just have a beautiful platonic friendship. Yeah yeah it's honestly it's one of the other things that I kind of really like about this show is that they do they do they're ahead of the curve on a lot of things like we'll get into you know stuff as as they come up in episodes but like I had to keep reminding myself as I was watching the show like this is 1994 or this is 1995 you know depending on when these early episodes come up like some of this stuff is like yes they're not 100% correct in 2019 terms but they are so far ahead of where you would think society like a network drama type of society would be in 1994 you know like there's certain things that you're just like damn like they were they were not afraid to like dig into this even 25 years ago like that's it's just one of the things that like I really appreciate like even something as simple as that like that you can have just a platonic relationship between a leading male and female character and never really go anywhere with it like never really take it beyond that even just for a one-off episode to like spike a rating like they they stayed true to the nature of the relationship and I don't know like it's one of many examples I find that they don't always do the predictable thing but they end up doing kind of the the right thing or the progressive thing going forward. So getting into and then after that we get the first ever mass casualty incidents on this show a building collapse in the loop is what according to the TV. We know where that is yeah I have no idea I'm just imagining a giant roundabout it's kind of yeah okay because if it's not that's a way it's just the exact center of downtown and then there's the the L which obviously will be featured heavily in the show the light rail that runs around Chicago the loop is actually like consider the loop because of a circular the like they're train tracks run around a circle of downtown in a loop in a loop and then all different train lines feed into it and go out and that's super fun I love the CTA. Yay public transit yay some building scallops yeah some buildings collapse and here we go with another clip. Well it's in room 40 to CDC command and five is a rule out MI when you put your guns eyes another 12 years in fact the Ross season three sleeping it up 20 wait time we get them out of there nine I need a year at gas even what this is all about Building collapsed in a loop, if anything, on the other half. Yeah, well, who's on? Just us. OK, forget all that. The Colossus and Lewis, all the seven, and they're four, telling me we need anybody they can spare. Why don't you do that now? OK. Also, I'm sorry. I just need to point this out right now. If you're watching along with us, the doctor following Dr. Green along, he's just drawing circles. You look at his notepad, and it's just circles. I just need you to know that. Like, I noticed it, and I could not stop laughing. In his defense, they said it was in the loop. Ah! OK. So-- Daniel, you're not on the show anymore. Fired on the first episode. Damn it. No, I love that. Like, I love the-- so basically, everything up to that point, with a few minor exceptions, everything up to that point has all been static shots. Like, you would see, like, the camera would be positioned in one spot, and you'd be listening to them talk and do whatever. And then, from that point on, like, they're following Green and that other doctor down the hallway. And they're like doing kind of like the Aaron Sorkin thing, like the walk-in talk. And then Benton comes in, and it's like, shit's hitting the fan, building collapse. So we got to go. The music changes. The camera speeds up. Like, every-- the whole tone and tenor of the show just goes into another gear. Like, everything just kind of like-- you get that as a viewer, like, oh shit, like, something bad happened. And now everything from here on is going to get-- Yeah, it's just-- It should-- I love the-- just in that little clip, I just love how it goes from like, OK, this is a normal chaos that Mark is walking through to, oh shit, chaos, level of chaos, after Benton tells him what's going on. And just getting hit with just the sheer controlled cast that is, like, especially that I feel like is really well portrayed on these shows. Obviously, I've never been-- I've never been in a hospital emergency room when something like this has happened. But I feel like the way everything sort of goes-- like, everything works the way it sort of should. But it seems like just a complete cluster fuck. I feel like they portrayed that really well and starting with this very first one. Which they pull no punches either. Like, within a minute or two, you are looking at the world's most disgusting gray dead hands. Oh, this guy is dead. Like-- Yeah. In my notes, I put-- they flinch from nothing gross. Nothing. Like, so much blood, so much-- which, I mean, that's another thing that makes this show good. They don't shy away from anything. They don't try to, like, pretty it up or make it look like it's-- Yeah, no, the prosthetic work in the show-- Anything less amazing. And just the actual-- Yeah. --the practical effects of everything, the fact that, like-- Yeah, it's just-- I just think it's a fantastic looking show from that perspective. I just also want to point out, Dr. Ross is now officially an hour and a half from getting those drugs. Should he really be working on the emergency patients that are coming through the trauma center? Yeah, that to me had lawsuit written all over it. I asked my wife about that. I was like, should he be working? He's working, like-- Yeah. That doesn't seem-- And she was kind of like-- like, she was under any sort of normal circumstances. She's like, absolutely not. She was in a situation like this, though, where it's a mass casualty type thing, where it's like-- obviously, this is obviously a very 1994 big tragedy. Type thing. If this were, like, say, a 9/11 level tragedy, nobody would give a shit how long ago the doctor had gotten the banana bag. Like, they would just be like, we need doctors. So it's kind of like-- she was kind of like-- it's kind of a gray area, ethically. She's like, he obviously shouldn't be-- if he was that drunk that he needed to stumble into the ER, he then he shouldn't be working at all. But in a situation like this, where it's all hands on deck, like, it's kind of-- Yeah, so you go from that, and then you actually get some of the very first-- you have to get some of the very first Benton shots, like when he's actually working in the trauma rooms. And you also get one of the things that the show is known for with a lot of those very-- those one-take-- Swoops. Yeah, those one-take swoops through the trauma rooms that are just absolutely-- from a cinema tiger perspective, are still impressed me to this day. It's very-- very, very few other things that I've ever seen that really come close to an on TV show. Is that going to be our technical term for the next 330 episodes of those swoops? The swoops. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's so beautifully shot. Like, it's just the camera-- like, there's no cuts. There's no nut. It's just all one continuous shot that just goes around-- oh, my god. Like, just trying to visualize it in my-- And if you listen to some of the special features, too, I'm like later-- especially like I'm later seasoned-- they talk about those shots and how they're simultaneously like the biggest bitch in the entire world because you have to do them all in one take. And there's so much medical terminology that you have to throw out in such a short amount of time, just like a normal emergency situation. But they're also like-- a lot of the actors really love them because of that, because they're so challenging, because they're so-- they come out so well. And really, no other show does it quite like that. Yeah, I was reading, like, doing some of the research for this, and this kind of carries forward throughout. So apparently, like, all the medical-- obviously, if you're a doctor or you're a nurse, like, you've been in medical school, you've been in, like, you've been immersing yourself in all this terminology and stuff for years, so that it just kind of rolls off the tongue. For these actors, though, like, they were given a script with very authentic medical terminology. Like, they did not pull any punches with this. Like, you are going to call this drug by its exact name, or you are going to call this piece of anatomy by its exact name. Because that's part of the appeal of the show is now how authentic it is. It's supposed to be like a slice of life of, like, an actual publicly run emergency room. Exactly. Yeah. It's-- the authenticity is kind of what sells it. But so supposedly, everybody, like, did their homework. Like, everybody was, like, on point, learn their terminology, had everything memorized, didn't fuck up-- or fucked up rarely. Except Clooney. Clooney could not be fucking bothered to learn any of the shit. Like, he would-- they said that he would write the words that he was supposed to say in a scene, like the medical terminology. He would either write it on his hand, or if he had to have his hand visible in the scene, he'd have a notepad and a drawer. And he'd have the drawer next to him open so that he could be get it when the camera wasn't on him. He was the only one out of the entire cast who couldn't be bothered to learn the shit on our-- I'm going to look for that now. Yeah, I was going to say, like, that's something to look for a while when we're going forward. Yeah. You don't get too much of him in-- it seems like he's a rare occurrence in these actual-- in these shots, just because of by nature of him being a pediatrician. And they don't do-- Right. They don't do, like, as many-- like, obviously, the vast majority of your trauma cases that you're going to film are probably going to be adults. Yeah. Well, and he also-- he gets blood vomited onto his chest in the first 30 seconds. And I guess they send him off to go get caught up. Because he has no idea what the hell he's doing with this older woman. So it's not only where you're shrunk an hour and a half ago, you're trying to treat someone who is not in your warehouse. Yeah, he's out of his element. And he's under the weather, as they say. Like, he's-- Flash. It's not a great start for George. But-- Also, I love the patient who's-- who's Susan is caring for at this point, who goes, are you married? And she just responds, no. Oh, the good doctor. Like-- But she says it more like, no, I'm a doctor. Just in that very Susan tone, she has. Like, everything-- everything Susan says, I internalize in that harder tone, because it's like, you know that's how she wants to say it. She's just a bitter old lady. All right. She's not old lady. Well, she's not physically old, but like, she's-- Yeah, she's just a bitter old soul. Like, I think-- And I love her. When her boyfriend calls, while she's got the X-rays later in the episode, and she's clearly distracted, and she's like, I thought we broke up. Like, she's clearly has no time for this fuck boy. But she makes time. I thought you and Paul broke up. She makes time. Well, he did. She's like, eh, you know, whatever. Yeah, it's just the whole-- it's god damn it. It's so good. Like, everything is just like-- like, it's so authentic to every-- like, relationships are messy. Like, speaking from personal experience, like when you date or are married to someone in the medical field, you do have to sort of accept that there are going to be times where you just aren't going to see them. Like, they're going to be-- it's not like having a regular office job where you can just pick up the phone and call them anytime. Like, they could literally be in the middle of like, pinching off somebody's artery. And you are like, you know, sitting at home, like, doing nothing. And they're saving somebody's life. So it really is so authentic to the nature of personal relationships within the medical field that like, it does take a back-- by nature, it has to take a back seat to what you're doing because what you're doing is literally impacting-- And then also sort of throughout all this, you know, Ben is being a cocky bastard and really trying to just feel like the most alpha male of alpha males [BLANK_AUDIO] ever was in this emergency room. And then to contrast that too, Carol really just is just sort of like the quiet, strong steady one throughout all of it, but like everyone knows she's there and knows she knows that they can rely on her, but like she's very soft-spoken about it. She doesn't really like serve herself at all and is just sort of like there in the background. It seems like everybody kind of takes her for granted that she's going to be there right when they need her. Yeah, she's very like, for lack of a better word, I'm trying to come up with a better one, but like she's kind of like ethereal. Like she kind of just floats through everything. Like she's just things are happening around her. There's lots of explosions and things happening and all sorts of like fires burning down. And she's just kind of calm and like walking through the middle of it. People are running past her and asking her things and she's just calmly giving the answer and is not like she doesn't seem to be as affected by the chaos as everyone else is. And I do find it like my what that's how my wife is like she is the best person to have around in an emergency because she stays 100% calm. Even one of our first dates, we saw a guy on a motorcycle get hit by a drunk driver and she literally like I lost my entire like gut and like all the color drained out of my face and she she went she ran off and held his leg together until the ambulance got there. Like she took complete control of the situation and was just calm as could be and then as soon as it was all over with like the ambulance shows up, they take the guy away, they do the whole deal. I'm still like shaking. Have mind you, I haven't done shit. I'm just standing there like I'm still like shaking and like I don't know what to do with myself. And she just like rips off her latex gloves that the paramedics gave her and she's like so what do you want to do for dinner? Okay. And like you're married to a badass. I really enjoyed her company when we all met for dinner but I think I might be a little in love with your wife now. She's pretty pretty badass. I got it. But I'm also wondering going back to Carol for a second, I'm sorry. But with that ethereal statement, I'm also wondering how much of our observations about this and her behavior are colored by what we know happens later in the episode. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was like as someone who has someone who has dealt with suicidal depression for the majority of my life at this point ever since I was a teenager, like I can see like where that headspace would be. It's like right before it's like when you like sort of like know something's something's going to happen like something so like a switch is flipped in your head and you just get calm. So you can kind of take it one, you can kind of take her demeanor in this first half of this episode one, two ways. You could take it either her just being that strong calm at the center, at the eye of the storm, that is the yard, but you could also take it as her already having said goodbye. Yeah, you could take it. You could take it. You could take it. She's already like had made peace of the fact that she's going to go home. She's going to swallow a whole bottle of pills. She's going to drink. Yeah, drink. She's going to kill herself. It's an interesting like dichotomy too, because like from my perspective, like I always, that's always been one of my like biggest sticking points and biggest criticisms about the pilot episode is that they do drop such a bomb on you in the second act or second half, whatever you want to call it, with half the way that I've always sort of again, from my perspective, I've always sort of felt like wasn't really like, you know, like it was, it was very like, it felt very much like a season two or a season three type of cliffhanger or even a, even a season finale of season one kind of cliffhanger. It did not feel like something that should have happened in the second act of the pilot episode. Like it was like, what? Like this, to me, it comes out of complete left field, but as somebody who's never really dealt with the like effects of suicidal depression, like I, that just didn't even enter into my like thought process of like, oh, that. But thinking about it through that lens, it makes more sense. Yeah, I could see it, I could see that, but I think like when you're talking about like, actually trying to get an audience hooked into the show, like, oh, one of the main characters attempted suicide in the very first episode, like that would get people talking in 1994. Like that was so much more taboo than. Yeah, like that's not something you really saw, you really saw a whole lot back then. Yeah. So yeah, we're getting a little out of ourselves with that. But another thing we had noticed that you also see right away that not everyone lives, that this is just like real life. They're going to be people that you just can't save. And obviously that will affect all these, all the doctors and nurses differently for different patients, different, and all the other stuff. But you like, you immediately see Dr. Green have to tell someone that their, the things are father. I think so. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The family member died and just used to get that first like, not very well acted, but you get that first moment of, like, get that first like moment of like grief. He gets the point across. Yeah, he gets the point across, but it's just, it's just so cheesy. The way that was his platoon. Like that was his like. That was that guy's like, this is my chance. Like I'm going to make a mood. Like I'm going to have a career off of this one little 30 second interaction. And oh my god, it's so bad. Spoiler alert. That's like one of the only things that sticks out for me in this episode of just like, it pulls me out a little bit when I have to like watch this guy flail on Green's chest. Like it's just, you, oh god. Just, anyway, from going into that to something much more entertaining. Uh, the next scene one sort of like, all at this point, all of the chaos is sort of calm down. They're all, uh, most, all, most of the doctors are out in the, doing their charts and, and the, yeah, in the lounge. Oh, yeah, in the lounge. And we get this, this lovely clip. Something wrong? Oh, you bet there is. We're out of coffee again because the nurses have been taking it. That's what's wrong. Makes more. Make some more. We worked 36 hours on 18 off, which is 90 hours a week, 52 weeks a year for that. We have paid $23,739 before taxes. And we also have to make the coffee. My heart is breaking. Ben is such a fucking asshole. He has turned the prick up to 11 in this. Like, he is just, he is just, he is just, he is a dill don't. He's very, he, from again, talking to my wife, like, he is very authentic though to not all doctors, hashtag not all, but he, he's apparently very authentic to the dynamic that you see a lot of times between doctors and doctors. Is that still in 2019? Like a thing? Yes. At least it was, you know, like, you know, she, my wife works, she's done both. She's worked because she used to be in the military. And so she, she's done it kind of both on the military side and on the civilian side. So I, I imagine on the military side, there's probably an added layer of kind of pretentiousness on the doctors where they've got this like sense of superiority about what they're doing. You know, she's basically said, like, you get, you get doctors that know that the nurses, you know, they, they would not be able to survive without the nurses. But then you do get Benton's occasionally who think that they are God's gift to me. Just think of the highest shit under the sun. Right. That, that nurses should exist solely to like cater to their every whim up to and including making. And we did do the, the inflation rate conversion and 23,739 dollars in 1994 equals out to 41,098 dollars and 10 cents in 2019 as of this recording. Which is low, you know, compared to, for working, for working 90 hours a week, that is low. I will say, but also shut the fuck off. Basically is what also make your fucking copy and don't be a bitch about it. Right. Nobody forced you to become a doctor like you'll be, you'll be making 120 grand or more here. And in, and in the time it took you to bitch about this coffee, you could have already had a pot going. Yeah. Exactly. And then also with that scene, just sort of overall, like, just the overall like conversation that's going on, everyone just seems to know that Mark's marriage is a fucking mess. Yeah. It seems like everybody but him like he's the one that seems like he's like, no, no, it's fine. Yeah. We're good. And everybody else is. I think he kind of knows, but it's just more, it's just more of he's the one that maybe doesn't necessarily want to believe it. Yeah. He's still in that like avoidance thing. We're like, he just doesn't want to deal. I don't even though this is certainly, he doesn't want to believe it because I don't even know that he necessarily believes it when he says it's fine. I think it's more so that he's just too busy and he doesn't want to deal with it. Like it's one more thing he's got to like manage. And so he's just like, it's fine. It's fine. And then from that scene, they go right into where we actually meet Jennifer for the first time. I apologize. I had this mixed up with the earlier portion where she was so excited to shit all over the gun. I sure was. I jumped the gun. Jennifer and her giant sweater and her giant glasses by like 25 minutes. The most important thing is that she's going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going 90s 90s that ever 90 I apologize Jennifer I hated you 20 minutes sooner than I should have My bad It's okay if you needed a reminder that it's 1994 just take look no further than poor little Four-year-old or whatever she is Rachel's little like I don't know what it is like it's it's like the AIDS quilt But if it was a shirt like it's like all And like different I mean I mean that with endearingly like you know, but like it's all like patches of different colors and just like I think Lizzie might need to pause for a second you might have killed her. Oh shit. Yeah That was excellent. Okay. Yeah, like to put it in perspective my loathing for Jennifer I have Jesus Jennifer can you acknowledge that your fucking husband is an ER doctor with a hectic job? He looked tired seriously Like yeah, she I mean she's supposed to be in law school Right, yeah, she has a law school if any if if anybody should understand the struggle Like I feel like a law school student would get you know how stressful and how like exhausting working in an ER I would be I feel like there's a I but again, I feel like eating and being an ER doctor would be like next level though because You have to work like 24 hours in a row sometimes like that show this episode 24 hours It's following 24 hours in County General's ER right And I just want to say it just seems like she's so going through the motions with this Because she already asks him, oh are you gonna go to that interview and she's like, oh, I know you'll probably hate it like if you know your husband's going to hate something Don't pretend don't pretend to sympathize with it and still push him to go like you can't have it both ways Okay, so after or Jennifer has done being a bitch I do not like using I probably said it like three times already, but I don't think we should be calling ladies bitch in 2019 unless it's baddest bitch That's that's that's fair after Jennifer's done being a jerk Being difficult. Yeah being an unsympathetic spouse. Oh About that that's very adult well said well said we get oh oh joy we get to Go into this next lovely clip Roy meets the baby is baby that ever baby and John Carter is this the The Avengers assemble scene where they all like kind of come we get this shot from the opening Injure where they're all like in the same. Yes, I love all right. Oh No, would you look at this The first tailored white coat I've ever seen Like you know anything That address well, it's my student. I'll find out Little list baby. Oh, oh you sweet summer child The baby is to the ever baby. Yeah Just with it. There's fucking part down the middle and just could they have made him look more like a 12 year old He just looks like such the little like rich boy He's got the part in the middle and the tailored white coat like they do everything in their power to like Give you the visual cue of like this kid is in open and the doys and and main and he even mentions I like he doesn't know how to do jack shit because he did psychiatry and dermatology rotations before this The well the well dress Yes, I love that line too So he doesn't even let's like okay, let's throw this kid into his surgical rotation Like want like the most advance of what I want of what I am about imagine to be the most difficult rotations when you're in medical school and Without even knowing how to place a fucking ivy in an ER. Yeah Yeah, like he's like you couldn't I think you could have planned that better there mr. Medical School people Yeah, it's I mean it's and it's it kind of gives you a little glimpse of what you eventually get with Carter of like because You think about it like he is rich. He has all the connections in the world like he there's no real there's no logical reason why he should end up in the ER of a downtown public city hospital like he should be getting skin and Depression right exactly like he should be getting dropped into the cushiest Residency that his money should be going into the job that green is interviewing for yeah Exactly. Yeah, and so like it's it's a very without giving away too much It is a fascinating glimpse into the character of John Carter where you know He is this sort of like almost benevolent type of person where like he has all yes He has all this money and all this you know access and everything but he Generally kind of Shies away from it in service of doing more for others like he wants to just help people you know He doesn't want to just treat tennis elbow and you know stuff like that like you know in a fancy $150,000 a year practice like he wants to like fucking Intimations and tricks and right like he wants to get down in the trenches and like do the shit and so like they but they do that Like they don't spell that out for you, but they just a little visually Yeah, visually they give you all the clues that they're like this kid was born with a silver spoon and there's no fucking reason why he should be in the middle of this Shit storm, but you know of course You need a mr. William H. Macy who I oh for some reason I always forget these on the show because he's like he's I do too He's barely on the show, but William H. Macy has David Morgan Stern and The lovely line at when he's talking with him when he's talking with Carter and Benton Dr. Benton is one of the best surgeons we have learned everything you can from him except attitude And a baton is just like he did he did it. Yes, he did It's just accepted that like everyone knows Benton's an asshole like nobody's nobody has any like Illusions about no he's a brilliant surgeon. Yes, he's a brilliant surgeon But he also has that and he also at one point tells Carter This is where the pill pushers kill their victims and it's like no not everything is about surgery and it's clear that he just Distains everyone that isn't a surgeon Yeah, yeah, he definitely has that like What is it like superiority complex when it comes to that you're going into one of his first things One of Carter's cars very one cars very first IV patients is Frank We're up on the suit right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he does sutures first. Yeah on this on this point this poor older woman Who's like what the what the fuck are you you don't know what you're doing to? What one do I need these taken out? Yeah, like you just like just a look on her face as he starts to go Into do the sutures for the first time just her eyes gets super wide like I'm gonna die That that speaks to me on a very like human level too because it's one of these like weird like not fears But like one of these weird like hang ups. I have like you have a profession like doctor like it's the person that literally holds your life in their hands and Just by definition there has to be a worst doctor Who's ever become a doctor like there has to be like just by definition There has to be the worst person who's done the minimum amount of stuff to be able to be a doctor And so like the idea that you could in theory be sitting in front of the little worst doctor that has ever been it's like Like I don't know like I was never I never had anything quite like sutures done by By a student doctor by been treated by student doctors and various emergency rooms around Chicago Because we are home to rush university, which is one of like the biggest medical schools in the entire fucking country and Northwestern and Northwestern To which is up which is a huge campus Downtown just off Michigan Avenue on the North on the near North side of Chicago But yeah, I've never had anything like I would be fucking I would I would absolutely ask for someone else if I was her in that situation just Yeah, and Benton doesn't really do anything to like a swage her concerns at all He's kind of just like yep, you got it leave him with the kid and like just dips like doesn't tell the lady like he's good at this He's done it a million times even if it's a lie. Yeah, like he just he's just like still in Benton world where he's like I'm the best I'm gonna go do other shit Well, and then we get the first real example of how great doctor Ross is with kids with this neurotic mother Who's like oh my my baby he was he was vomiting blood and he's he's very high strong and anxious over everything Oh, we forgot to mention that doctor Ross also gets a medical student then this one that he trusted hit on yeah They trust it on me. I think it's rebuffed. I've got all the friends I need yes, and she's gone after the first episode She's gone after the first episode which I was kind of disappointed by like because like he said She kind of throws it right back at him like no fuck you buddy. I don't need like I'm here to work I'm not here to be you're like I'm not here to fuck I'm here to fucking right to fuck shit up. Yeah, so I was just I was disappointed but I I I can see why she didn't come back just They needed to cut somewhere like the cast was getting a little bit bloated And so like they had to like trim it down so every episode can't be 90 minutes. Oh, yeah So like they're not gonna be able to like dedicate time, but it was just I don't know And I would have liked to this is a theme that continues a lot Especially in the early seasons of the show is um people will just kind of leave and not always get a actual like Reason for like yeah, like people just kind to go away and that this is kind of the first example. Um, and then from there another scene of Carol sort of just everyone just knowing that she's there and just her just there's another thing of rapid fire questions at her while she's going to a drug while she's going to lock up some drugs or get some drugs she's going to the well-made pharmacy that they have in the center near the trauma rooms that is a frequent scene-setter rather I don't know how to say that but it's a frequent setting. Yeah that's one of the biggest like kind of flashpoint like there's lots of stuff that you know setting wise that like reminds you that this is 1994 but that's one of the biggest ones that you can be like damn like stuff is a lot different now because like she opens that with just like a key like she just like a regular old just like like she's opening a you know a doorknob like she just kind of like six key in and and she's into all of the prescription yeah all of the opioid it's all right like now now like in a in 2019 like in an ER like you have an ID card with a code attached to it with like they know who opened that cabinet at what time and what drugs were taken at like stuff's not just sitting in there on a shelf like it's piecemealed out to you by dosage like it's such a stark difference between where they are here yeah and then and then excuse me for getting my home I saw a little bit before now we get introduced to Frank our lovely this is our lovely a more stealth looking Frank he's an idiot but he's our precious cranky racist idiot yeah I like Frank obviously shows up later and you know he's his he is what he is like I I I never liked Frank like I full disclosure like I am not a Frank fan I don't I don't even find him like ironically funny like to me because to me he's just a symbol of so many guys that I know that's like that's real he's yeah he's too real like he's too you know I mean there are definitely he has his moments I want to say he's completely irredeemable he does have his moments throughout the show but they are few and far between there's so many times where I just want to well and Jerry is clearly superior obviously Jerry Jerry Timmy my favorite subzal the oh we haven't talked about Tim yet I was so like talking about getting ahead of ourselves I was so happy to see Tim come back in season 10 yeah like I was so excited for that the only other like he was one of those I'm a big like oh shit it's that guy person like I will I may not know where I know them from but I'll know I'll be like I know that guy and Tim was one of my first ones in this show where I was like who the fuck is that like I know that guy I don't know where I know him from and then looking through IMDB he was in fucking speed with like he was the guy driving the convertible next to the bus that like Keanu Reeves like common deer like and I was like I from the same year too that's 94 also so like he's doing what a year this fucking guy has he gets ER and speed in the same year yeah and then also Jerry is in Twister like in 95 or 96 he's a part of carry always yeah carry always is a science team he's one of the drivers I think of like the big van in the back I'm not gonna say that my like my reference point for Jerry is George of the jungle but my reference point for Jerry is George of the jungle that's all I'm gonna say and Jerry is a precious precious man and I love him and we must protect him at all costs because he's my probably my favorite background character oh yeah whenever he gets hurt and random things I was like Jerry no like that's gonna be a hard one for me to get that we all know the episode I'm talking about it it it upsets me to no end and I we've got a couple tough ones coming up all right but let's so let's we gotta get out of season 10 and we got to stick with the pilot yeah we're yeah we're getting the weeds here a little bit Frank's the worst Frank let's put a pin in the Frank thing like I don't know man but Carter survives him manages to get the IV and says the worst is over you do get you do get a very signature Frank face after that though like when he he does he is a good face on that you go just you go into there's a patient talking to Dr. Green insisting on a neurological exam and Dr. Green's telling him no you're fine it's really probably XYZ and the guy just straight up says you're just saying that because I'm black you don't want to spend the money on having me checked out and it just it shows right away they're not going to shy away from these tough conversations even this early on they're going to acknowledge race they're going to acknowledge sex they're going to acknowledge sexuality and they're going to have these tough conversations or at least have the balls to bring them up yeah it's an urban trauma center specifically in Chicago where obviously there's a huge disparity yeah huge African American population and yeah yeah there's a lot of that's a whole that's a whole issue for a whole another show that people's lots smarter and more well-versed than us can speak on but yeah there's a lot let's just say there's a lot better hospitals on the north side than the south side in the city and a lot more of them with the exception of one that I won't name yeah but yes then we go outside and we see I yes it's a snowy day in Chicago out of seemingly nowhere in March is when this episode takes place and we find out that a cab driver has a pregnant woman in his car and she is delivering now and poor poor little do I baby Carter like just gets taught like goes right from his dermatology rotation into like now he's got his hand holding a baby and yeah like you could just you feel the fear coming off right and the beginning of the weather trope comes up with it's knowing on March seven days unbelievable this will become a very common thread yeah weather comes up again and again like people always remarking on oh it stopped raining like oh it's I think it's four times in this episode alone yeah that it's one of those little tiny things that like just came up again so Carter's got his hand in a woman's nether's holding her baby in and looks absolutely petrified as you would if you go if the last thing you probably the last medical procedure you probably did before today was like removing someone's mole and this baby is born and it's it's alive it's great it's a magical moment for Carter but how do they make fresh babies on TV look so disgusting and gooey I mean it's probably one of those like practice there's probably like a very gross answer like practical effects why I feel like it's like I feel like jelly's involved and like it might be because I'm just not a baby person but I see I see newborns on medical TV shows and I'm just like new new people are gross man and then the R&B that they're playing in the background so fucking cheesy it's so over the top oh my god it's really it really out of place with like everything else in the in the even just in the score like the score is pretty good and this just like sticks out like they tone this down so much in following episodes like I think this is the most saccharine thing we see and I think they learn from this and they tend to keep more subtle scoring yeah because he's still like when you have like future successful baby deliveries that are supposed to be happy moments you still have like the lighter music in the background but it's not quite like the R&B yeah the really weird R&B stuff that's in the background here so after that do we go I know I know coming up I just trying to get my order of operations straight here I know I know we get into the like gang violence thing like almost because it's like a pretty quick like tone shift like we go from like happy everybody's happy new life to like a child I mean you know what is he like yeah or something like just a blind child I think right before that Peter's up there getting something from the radiologist Steve who I wish we had more of where he's just taking his sweet time taking his notes just to make Peter's life hell and I wish there was more people in this show that stuck it to Peter's fucking hilarious yeah he's a background character that you just don't I mean he sticks around like for a little while but he's not like he's not very long he's not like he's not a gerioral it yeah he doesn't make it us he doesn't make it exactly yeah so it's kind of yeah I would have liked to see the more and so Peter's an ass to him and then we go into the shotgun trauma or not shotgun trauma but the gun I think it was I think I said yeah the gang violence yeah yeah there's so many peaks in this show like there's so many that like any like normal episode this would be the big thing and then you hard pivot yeah and like they just sort of like gloss over that just to show hey this happens and they hard pivot right into mark at his job interview well even even with the gang violence they also acknowledge like hey call security there might be the threat of them coming to finish him off oh yeah and that will that will also be a recurring theme throughout this throughout the show apologies I just wanted to make note of that no you know yeah that's a totally good point is it is it Clooney's medical student is she the one that makes the call to security I kind of wonder did they get like was that sort of like part of her background like unspoken like reasoning for why she doesn't stick around is like she's like - I know this. - Fuck this shit. This is too crazy for me. I'm gonna go like, yeah, I don't know. As unsatisfying as it is when a character just leaves for no reason, I do like it when there's even sort of an unspoken. - I'll accept that, Ken. - And on a side note, I'm actually just really glad that they don't like make this like an every episode thing just because that is sort of a common narrative about Chicago as a whole that I really fucking hate is that it's some, it's just goddamn war zone. - All we are is the Shire Act. - All we are is gun violence. - Yeah, and while obviously there is a lot of gun violence in the city, mostly in the city, you're mostly safe outside of a few neighborhoods. And as long as you're not stupid, even in those neighborhoods, you're probably fine. - And we're also speaking from, gonna acknowledge it a point of privilege being up on the north side. - Yeah, we are two white people that live on the north side of Chicago. - Right, but at the same time, everybody I've talked to who lives in the city says, yeah, as long as you're not being an idiot, and you mind your own business, you're mostly okay. - Yeah, and as a former Uber driver, I've been like gone through and like been in those areas for a decent amount of time, I've never felt unsafe. - In a Prius. - Yeah, in a Prius, the whitest white car that ever whited. - So yeah, it's appreciated that while they acknowledge it, they don't make it a focal point of the entire show. - It's not a trope that they get back to over the movie. - Yeah, they don't be over the head with it. Like obviously there's times where it does come up, but yeah. - Yeah, it's very like-- - It's launched. - It's a very honest, yeah, nuanced and honest portrayal of just like, this is happening, but it's not, it doesn't define the department or it doesn't define the city. Yeah, I like the way that that's portrayed too. - Okay, and then getting back into the actual, going back into the episode, like I said before, you kind of hard pivot from that gun violence scene to the bougiest, op medical office. - I've ever seen in my entire life even to this day, I think. - Yep. - Yeah, that was like white privilege to the ride. Like that was just-- - That was a country club stuffed into a doctor's office. - Yeah, like that, and that doctor that he's talking, he was another one like Tim that I was like, I know that fucking guy, I don't know who he is either, but-- - I looked him up, the only thing that I can think of with him is that I think he played a bad guy on X-Files once. Like that's about the only crossover with my, like kind of scope that I can think of, but it wasn't even like, it wasn't like a character name that jumped off the page at me that I was like, that's where I know I'm from. - It's just like, oh, that guy. - He just has one of those faces. Yeah, but he did, he perfectly, you know, kind of encapsulated that like out of touch, bougie doctor of just like, yes, I'm a doctor and yes, I have all the ability to help people in the world, but instead I go to like, you know, Hawaii for conferences and I ski all the time. - And we have a sauna making 120,000. - Right, in 1994 dollars, which is probably about-- - Plus bonuses, like they're-- - Oh my god, it's easily north of 220, 25K. - Well, and what I'm curious about is, why are they so invested in Mark? And how did he get this dream interview at this bougie-ass country club doctor's office anyway? - Yeah, how the hell did they hear about Mark Green? - Didn't they say, like while they're walking around talking to him, didn't they say that like, - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they were like, Morgan Stern says, you're the best doctor he's ever seen come through the ER. So like, he's getting the like Luke Skywalker treatment of like, you're the chosen one. And like, I mean, you know, but you can tell like, from the minute he walks through the door that like, Green's not into it. And like, he's clearly-- - He's like, yeah, he's doing this to play that position. - Exactly, yeah, he's never even remotely considering it. Like, he's just doing it, like he said, to check the box to be able to say he did it and go back and tell her like, "I don't know, I didn't work out." - Yeah, it's nice. I'll think about it. - Yeah, like he's clearly, Mark is such an interesting character because he's clearly unhappy, he's not the right word, but he's clearly like, discontented. Like he's got a lot of things going on in his inside. Like he's battling a lot of different thoughts and ideas and like he's trying to make sense of his life. But one thing, the one thing that like stays constant with him is the ER. Like the ER is what keeps bringing him back to center. Even though it's not always a dream job and he doesn't get paid enough and he deals with a bunch of shit and he, you know, it's just, it's a drain on him both physically, mentally and emotionally. It's still the thing that kind of keeps bringing him back to center. Like it's still the thing that he can always kind of turn back to and throw himself into, to bring himself back from the edge where like when all of the other stuff kind of creeps in, he can throw himself into helping people at the ER and that's what makes him happy. And you can just tell when he's in, when he's thrust into this other environment that he can just see that like, it's almost like the walls are closing in. Like he's like, you, you need to tell me that I'm not going to have the one thing that makes me happy. Like no. Like, yeah, I mean the ER is the ER is his second home, essentially. And that's his actual family, probably more so than Jennifer and Rachel are for a good part of the series. Yeah. OK. So then, and then the weather comes up again. When did it start raining? And it's always, it's frost throughout the entire episode saying these things, by the way, just making note of-- Someone walks in, they've got snow on them, they've got rain on them. Yeah. Like I think it just walks by the emergency, like where the ambulance runs come in. And-- Yeah, until you pointed it out, I never really considered how little-- because in hindsight, like Clooney is obviously like the biggest star to ever come out of this show. Oh, by far. But it's striking how little he really has to do in the pilot. Like, he's got a couple little-- he's still got his big-- his Oscar speech coming up here. I think if you stretched out the time on screen and things to do for every character, I think he'd be near the bottom. I think it's a tie between him and Lewis for the least amount to do-- I think she has less, but you're right. He's definitely towards the bottom. Yeah. I think they just don't really know what to do with his character. That's true. Being a pediatrician, there's not a whole lot they can do with him in the middle of a mass casualty in the middle of downtown Chicago. But it's still-- it's just interesting that you've got this-- I mean, I know Clooney wasn't Clooney then. He was famous, but he wasn't the carry grant level Hollywood legend that he is now. But it's like, you've got George fucking Clooney right there. And you're going to give him like sixth most screen time out of everybody in this show. Like it's just very like-- I don't know. It's crazy. And it's still good. It's not like the show suffers. I don't know. No, no. Yeah, no. Anthony Edwards as the leading leading man is a fantastic choice. And-- Perfect. Especially from people, especially-- because going from-- I'm not sure. I don't think he really did really anything of nope. After Revenge of the Nerds into this. He's another one that-- the only reference point I have for Anthony Edwards other than E.R. is being one of like Sean Penn's stoner buddies in fast times on high. I would also say if you guys enjoy his performances, check out designated survivor on Netflix. Oh, yeah. He has actually-- he plays what the chief of staff, I think. I think so, yeah. Yeah, he plays the chief of staff in the new To Keeper Sutherland's president in the latest season. And hearing him swear is so weird. Hearing him drop Afba was just casually and like-- It's not wholesome, Dr. Green. Yeah, like in the very first episode. Yeah. Because the first two seasons that show were on ABC. And this one's-- yeah. But just-- I'm getting away from the point. Sorry. But yeah, it's super fucking weird. I highly recommend it. It's a very good show. But yeah, going back to Anthony Edwards and Mark Green, this is the time where we really start seeing that there are rumors about his extra marital behaviors throughout the hospital. Like-- Which is so funny. Yeah, but he's like, I'm too tired to do anything else. I can't cheat on my wife. I barely get sleep. And he's such a like dork. Like, yeah, he's such a nerd. Like, who would think that he's this like secret lethario on the down low? Like, he's-- I mean, granted, he's got more hair in this episode than he has at any other point in the series. Very true. But he's still going bald. And like, he's a nerd. Like, he's a lovable nerd. He's our nerd. I love him. But he's not-- He is not a lady man. Yeah. Like, it's just-- But I'm just like-- Funny to think about. Like, it's just like you see that his discomfort and his marriage is so obvious to everybody else that they're all like, well, he must be cheating on his wife. Because no man, that miserable would be faithful. Exactly. Yeah, it's obvious to everyone. I think we might have missed-- I think we might have missed this, but like the one point where that young woman-- Nope. It's like a run. OK, OK. OK. So we're still getting there. Yeah, from here, I think is where we go into Lewis. It's one of the like little brief glimpses with the guy who is almost definitely has cancer. Yeah. Which so that was actually-- that is actually George Boni's cousin. Today is that patient. I forget what his character's name is. His name, I think, is like Miguel Ferrerro or something. Oh, I thought you looked familiar. OK. Yeah, Mr. Parker, that's his character name. So he has actually since passed away from cancer. So oddly, weirdly prophetic scene here. But he's Clooney's cousin. The only-- he's another one of those like, I'm telling you, the show is chock full. of like, oh it's that fucking guy. He, the only other like touch point I have for him, at least the one that sticks out of my mind is he's the like main bad guy from blank check. The tone-loak Disney movie. It's like from like around the same time like 93 94, it's a stupid Disney movie where a kid finds a blank check. And tone-loak is one of the like henchmen, that's the only thing I remember about it. The main like the guy with the money that the kid stole is this guy. I think we need to have a segment called, oh it's that fucking guy with Daniel. Yeah. Oh yeah, there will definitely be a man and I. And I have one more little thing on that. He is also, he played the vice president in Iron Man 3. That's where I know him from. Yes, okay. Yes, so Dr. Lewis has this patient and she says, hey your x-rays don't look good. You know, here's what it might be and she lists off like it could be an obstruction, it could be some pneumonia, it could be a cyst, it could be a number of things. And he's just like, well, could it be cancer? Like he, please tell me, could it be cancer? And she says, you know, given your history with smoking and how prevalent you've said you were a smoker, it's not unreasonable, but we can't say definitively, like here, it could be so many things. And he just begs her for an honest, straightforward read on the situation and she just responds with nothing is certain, nothing good, nothing bad is ever certain. And just, but then she goes on to say, but this looks not great and gives him a rough estimate of how long he may have to live at which point he thanks her, hugs her in a moment that's a little bit to. It's a little bit to on that. It's not what I was gonna say, but it is, I don't know, like I'm of two minds about it. It's very on the nose. It's very like, it's the most kind of like network drama trophy moment that they have in the whole episode. I will say though, the only reason it works is because of how good of an actor he is. Like he, he is far in a way the best like non, like main cast or regular supporting cast, like I guess, I guess you want to say guest star, like he's he's far in a way the most talented guest star in this episode. Like he is acting his ass off in that scene. Like the way he goes from like calm in like internalization, like accepting his fate and like, okay, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna like put a brave face on and like do thing. And then like immediately like it all just hits him like a ton of bricks and he just like collapses. And then I just, I'll take my wife to the Bahamas or wherever they are. Yeah. Like he just like picks all the pieces up and puts them back in the jar and he's like, okay, I'm good. Like it's he just gonna live my life. I love that guy. Yeah, I love that. Nothing is certain. Blind because it's such an important perspective to keep no matter what's going on. Nothing good in your life is forever. Nothing bad in your life is forever and nothing is certain. We're almost to the we're almost to the client. No, but we're I promise all the episodes are not. We have your favorite guest, Miss Raskin, the feisty old lady. No, she's your. Yeah, because you want to be here when you grow up. I sure do. The thirsty Miss Raskin. Yeah, that's exactly. I just put I hope I have as much thirst and confidence as Miss Raskin when I'm her age. So she comes in specifically asking for Mark Green fossing over a tiny hang nail just acting to the rafters. Not the actress, the woman, the character is like, oh, but it could get infected and you know when you're my age, you can't take any chances. And oh, you know, Dr. Green, how sweet of you to take care of such a little old lady. And Mark, and the same Mark even says, you know, you know, if I if I perform the procedure on you, it will cost you $180. Oh, I would so appreciate it if you would do it for me. Yeah. And then and then she ends with now go home to your wife. Yeah. Oh, she's she's so classy and so thirsty and I love her so much. In continuation of our tradition already established in the last hour and a half of jumping way too far ahead. And do you remember the like clothes of the loop on this interaction? No, I do not. She come back. She she is the very first official like not in and like in in an emergency type situation of like, you know, this person comes in with a shotgun wound or like, but she's the first official like he goes to a bed and sees a or goes to and sees a patient. She's also the last. She's the she's the very last patient that he sees before he leaves the ER for the last time. Mine's and he tells her he tells her when he sees her like I think it's the same thing too. I think it's a hang nail and he tells her when he sees her, he you know, he fixes her up and he does the thing and then he says now you leave this hospital and don't ever come back. And it's so it's like this really cool like, you know, open like they they they closed the loop from the first episode like it's it's so like to and it's the same actress to like she's aged considerably and like it's it's just so sweet. Like I just I love that. So but that's way way down the line. We don't have to get there yet. But like I just love that this that's the type of attention to detail that this show has that like they took his very first patient. She's also his very or you know, at least that we see. She's also his last and that's just I just thank you for sharing that because yeah. Okay. And now and now here we go. Now here we go. Like god damn we've had a gang shooting. We've had a building collapse and now you tell me here we go. Here comes halfway having attempted suicide. God just suck all the air right out of the. Yeah. And I just have to say George Clooney's heartbreak through this entire series of events is palpable. He says hardly away but he wears it on his face so well. He's just so like destroyed and confused and like he's like I feel like he's like the voice of like all the faces that you see that around that pan around when they pull her back to one of it to the curtain area and Mark's working on her. That's why he's such a good actor like Mark does such a good job trying to give her privacy and dignity. Yeah. And then we get this little blurb. You're calling family. I don't know where family we were only roommates three weeks. What she doing. Doesn't matter what she did. We don't ask that about any other OD that comes to these doors. We don't ask it about this one. Oh, just Mark. Yeah. Just Mark. Doing is very best to keep control of the situation and doing is very best to to actually just. Treat her like a patient. She's not. She's not. She's not our co-worker. She's just a patient. We need to do it just like with every other patient we need to do everything we can to fix her because there's nothing else more that we really could do because she's a nurse here. And then he eventually goes on and he closes the curtain after because everyone just keeps staring, which is completely understandable when you have a co-worker. Yeah, it's realistic. And this moment here, it does such a good job showing the portrayal of shock of suicide attempts from loved ones without glorifying or romanticizing it. It just says this is the fact. This happens. This is how people react to it. It's tragic, but it's real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you said, doesn't glorify it, but doesn't try to minimize it either. It's just he's what it is. Figure out what she did from the roommate, you know exactly what's going on. You know, it's an OD and it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. So I think you very well could have if they wanted to, you could have very well killed her here and been done with it. But that would have been a damn shame because I love her character arc. Right. And they call Morgan Stern in telling to get off, get off his girlfriend. No, that's not. Oh, that's not. No, they don't tell him to get off his girlfriend yet. That's bet. I'm sorry. Yeah, they do bring him in. They do bring us this lovely interaction between him and him and Mark. You're just got a barbiturate level. She's intubated. We're up for anizing her in urine. We're getting ready for hemopropusion. But if she's deserabrating, you know the question, Mark. Should we be trying any of this at all? It doesn't look hopeful. But I think for the morale of the unit, we've got to do everything. And she was very popular. [SIGHS] The unit's looking to you, Mark. You set the tone. Yeah. She was one of us. We loved her. We worked with her. And all some things happened to her. It makes us feel guilty. It makes us feel angry. And scares the hell out of us. But we take care of her. And then we go on with our jobs. Yeah. You set the tone, Mark. You get the unit through this. I'm fine. Ugh. He said the face. Yeah. Yeah, he's-- He's at the title of the show. He wins it. OK. He's-- yeah. Just god fucking damn. Yeah. I mean, both parties there really get to shine. Like, grains kind of like calm freneticism kind of shines through. And then also to like William H. Macy, like in his very, very limited appearances, like he still can bring the heat what he's-- Yeah, bring that calm wisdom. Just like after-- That's basically-- really heavy sigh that you hear about halfway through that clip just mark just realizing holy shit this is happening. Yeah it's fantastic. From there we go through there's a gunshot wound that could knife wound that comes in. Oh yeah yeah well I think they know but a knife wound comes in and Carter's by the gurney is they're trying to clean the guy up and he gets sick and has to step away and Dr. Green goes outside, gets some fresh air with everything that's going on and talks to him and just says you can either be the kind of doctor that has feelings or you can be the kind of doctor that pushes them down but if you're gonna keep your feelings you're gonna get sick from time to time. It's just how it works. Which is I love that little one. I love this that interaction. I wish I'd pull the clip from it and then help it helping patients is more important than how we feel. But just showing just showing Dr. Green as not just a like a friend because you only really seen him as a friend but also seeing him as like okay he can be the mentor type as well even. Yeah even though he really doesn't really get you don't really get him with like medical students very often. No it's a it's a dynamic particularly the Green Carter dynamic. It's one that I guess because so the Carter Benton relationship is so dominant that you just don't you never really beyond this you don't see as much of Carter turning to green for you know not a I guess advice or like you know just like looking to him as that kind of mentor reassurance and this is like yeah like this is the best illustration of it like this is kind of the best that it ever gets with that relationship of like he's so in the midst of all this chaos he's so calm and so like measured like he just keeps down like keep your head down keep your head down like like kids literally like losing his lunch and he's just like no it's okay like it's okay to get sick like it's okay to you know to feel like you don't have to be this like iron soul like person who just doesn't feel feelings and doesn't care about people anymore like so that you can do your job like you can do you can still be a person and do this job and it's just such a powerful moment and I also love to I mean it it makes sense it's the pilot but I love how many times throughout this episode I was able to like point and go like oh shit that's where they get the thing from the intro like that's where they like like green walking out the door and his reflection is in the puddle like that's like straight out of the the intro the group shot the group shot the the Avengers assemble shot as I call it the Carter when he's like kneeled down but try not to puke he's got his deathoscope like yeah that's straight out of the straight out of the thing Benton's punch which we got coming up which is like my like favorite thing ever I love you that's impunch it's okay so wrapping up the last a little bit of the episode I think now is when we get the young lady yeah now is the one get the young lady Jerry slut James yeah oh yeah Jerry come on what do you do yeah sure remember folks this is 1994 it's not gonna be a totally woke I know I especially especially in the next couple episodes we get some really problematic shit but yes so a young lady comes in with burns on her thighs and Dr. Green is apparently the only available doctor he goes into a room with her and she is very thirsty and she is very thirsty Niagara Falls could not quench this woman's thirst and Lydia being the VIP that she is nurse Lydia stands in the room and keeps an eye on Dr. Green more for his safety than this young woman's and just you know help be like no yeah that's a that's a yeah it's a liability thing but just you know that everything's on the up and up while he applies burn cream to her thighs and she talks about how she's not wearing it how you know she had to change her panties because she knew he'd be seeing them and touching them that is the most like out of place sequence in this entire you're right yeah it's like you could cut you could cut it out and nothing would be different and it just comes so far out especially with everything we've seen up to that point like it comes so far out of you I wonder if they were trying to like lighten the mood and throw something like flirty and silly and just a kind of like this woman burned her legs just to get some attention and like that's how we're that's how we're gonna lighten the mood it just goes to show you what kind of tone we're setting here not to yeah well you may say you already won the contest I can't we can't set that tone any better haha but yes so Lydia is the real VIP here for looking out for Mark and not laughing at him too hard while he's dealing with this patient yeah and then you go right into assault and then right to one of the last sequences is Benton starting a surgery by himself unauthorized yeah well yeah to save a busted ulcer right yeah guys gonna bleed out I think you know it's a triple it's a triple a an abdominal a or a terrorism I've picked up a few things here and there you know it's learned by osmosis but yeah so he opens the guy up so he can at least pinch the artery until another more qualified surgeon or authorized surgeon can get in and do the so up yeah like he's just like literally like after he does it like there's the there's like the him just like walking through and like everyone's like wait what's Benton doing like no one else really like believe did he really just say that they's going out like it's like if anyone cares to helping I'll be over here performing triple a yeah or yeah performing whatever repair and not one of the other surgeons like is he was he kidding no go make go make sure he's kidding go make sure he's yeah I love that yeah and then so he just he does his thing and yeah and this is where we get the line let's see how long after he opens up the person and as the bleeding stopped and like he's calling for Dr. Morgan Cerny says let's see how long it's gonna take for the chief to get off his girlfriend and then do his work clothes classic yeah so real quick like I don't want to like fuck with our timeline too much here but I feel like we missed we missed a patient it's a real quick one it's the girl who she's like 13 I think the baby sitter Carter no Carter's like Carter is like pretty sure that she's pregnant but she's like oh yeah yeah we did and then he brings benton in and bentons like within 30 seconds benton like dissect it and he's like she has an ectopic pregnancy like set her up for surgery like you know it's based it's just an excuse for benton to like look like a pro and Carter to look like a spot the worst part is is that Carter was right and he said you know if if you are right right this could be an ectopic pregnancy so like he had it yeah he knows he has the medical knowledge he's used to learn the finesse with patients right so very minor note on that the actress who is playing the 13-year-old patient I did double check the character names she's not the same character but she does return to the show in in the very last season actually she is one of the I guess she's not I guess she's a resident not a medical student but Dr. Wade like there's a lot about there's a lot about season 15 that's very forgettable so 15 sort of a haze after yeah certain things happen in the beginning of it I just remember that I just remember that's where Dr. Green comes back from an episode yeah I looked it up like I because the the character name didn't really mean anything to me either but like I googled it and like seeing her face I was like oh yeah I kind of remember you like she's in the background she's not a very like memorable character but I just thought that was cool that like somebody from the pilot episode as a child she comes all the way back in season 15 as a doctor like another between yeah nothing in between no appearances in between just she's there in the pilot and she's there in the last season okay I just have to say I was looking at ER images on my phone and saw some cast members and I had another month of oh my god I forgot there in this too so we're in for a very interesting yeah it's a wild ride so fettin successfully holds down the fort till Morgan Stern gets in to help sold a guy up does the fist pump booya type thing which is the best part about the intro iconic punch punk punctuating the music and everything like they try to replicate it with other things after Benton leaves the show and it's never is like like they do I remember one season they do it with like it's either weaver or Romano like bustin through a door it's just it's weaver it's never is fucking good like it just doesn't have the same like punch punch literally no pun intended like it just doesn't have the same like but that's but that's another that's another thing for another time well we'll get into all intro changing no the last thing we have is the babysitter bringing in the Bruce child oh right cluny's gotta have his boss really see doctor Ross shine because he calls out the shitty abuse of mother and it's like where these burns come from how does your child have these fractures don't talk back to me yeah we're calling CPS lady this just stinks I think as well yes lady this just yeah but yeah he very much he's the disappointed dad as much as he's a womanizer and as much as he's a party boy when it comes to the children he cares for he will take no shit and he will do everything for them and that is really where the heart of gold of Doug Ross lies is that we see the underneath any of the flaws that come up in the next few seasons he really cares and he really tries yep yeah the very the very last scene of the episode brings everything full circle with the 24 hours theme stuctorine going down for another nap and roommate and roommate and but this time he actually gets it. And then I just love how I love the way it's shot how like the minute that door finally because it has that like one of those like things on the door that makes it close really slowly. So the minute that it just barely closes in the last bit of light leaves the room it immediately flies back open and she's like time to get up like I just that's the perfect way to end it. I love how much do we love the a lot. All right so that's that's just about wraps up the very first episode of a "Style of the Tone" and your retrospective. One down, three hundred and thirty-eighth up. Hope you'll stick with us through all of us. Yikes. What have we done to ourselves? Magic. You can find you can follow us on Twitter. We are on Twitter @setthetone er. er. capitalize. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. We'll find out later. We also have a Patreon going and support this and help us upgrade our equipment help us you know be compensated for our time and just so Lizzie and I aren't working off one mic in our cramped department. Yeah and we can get some headphones blutters. We would appreciate any support you can throw our way. You can find us at patreon.com/settingthetonepodcast. You can also find me personally on Twitter @randomgamer. I can be found personally at Twitter @lowbob92345. The username I've had since I was 12 years old. And Dan we're going to be people find you. I don't really do the Twitter thing but you can find me on Instagram @dan.u.u.l. I also host another podcast called the popular court with my co-host Jake Terrell. We do kind of a different pop culture topic every week music movies TV games really anything under the pop culture pop culture umbrella and we kind of put it through a little bit of a mock trial depending on when this episode drops either our most recent or one of our most recent episodes was on the Nintendo GameCube and whether it was the most underrated Nintendo it was really good I just listened to it. Thanks man yeah it was it was a good one I enjoyed it I was on the side of it was the most underrated Nintendo console Jake was on the opposite side so give it a listen see which one of us you think is right. Lizzie and I showing up on that at some point and then I also I also want to give a shout out to Andrew Edwards at Blue Police Box Music for providing our theme music. Yeah and that should about wrap it up thank you very much for listening and we will see you next time. [Music] [Music]