In 1475, Edward IV launches a large-scale, theatrically exaggerated invasion of France, styled as a tribute to Henry V, but lacking genuine military ambition. His campaign is met with skepticism, especially due to his physical appearance and the absurd scale of his preparations. Instead of fighting, Edward negotiates a humiliating treaty with Louis XI of France, securing massive financial payments in exchange for withdrawal. The diplomatic victory, however, leaves the Lancastrian heir Henry Tudor in peril, as the new alliance between England and France undermines the protection Henry once enjoyed in Brittany. Margaret Beaufort, deeply aware of the danger, orchestrates a quiet political strategy to survive within the Yorkist regime. She supports Edward’s court, attends key ceremonies, and strengthens her influence, positioning herself to secure her son’s future. However, a major obstacle remains: George, Duke of Clarence, still holds the title of Earl of Richmond, which Margaret seeks to transfer to Henry through Edward’s consent. This strategic maneuver reflects her pragmatic, behind-the-scenes approach—rejecting open rebellion in favor of survival and long-term political influence. Ultimately, the episode highlights how personal survival and political maneuvering define the fate of the Tudor claim, even in the shadow of a powerful and increasingly unreliable monarchy.
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The yard outside Knowsley Hall is busy.
With men preparing to go to war.
Horses are being groomed and their tack checked over.
Bows and arrows are packed, along with foodstuffs that won't perish on the long journey overseas.
Banners are stitched and tents rolled up.
Pieces of steel armour are buffed until they're gleaming.
It won't be long until this roadshow rumbles out of Knowsley and makes the long trip south to London.
From there.
The Lord of the Manor, Thomas Lord Stanley, will take his men on to Canterbury, where a massive army is mustering under the Plantagenet King, Edward IV.
The drums of war are beating.
And for once, it's not civil war.
Edward IV is planning a huge invasion of France, bigger than anything seen since the legendary campaigns of Henry V, more than half a century ago.
Stanley is going to serve as one of his top advisers.
It makes a big change for the English to be banding together to fight someone else.
The whole country is crackling with excitement.
Stanley's wife, 31-year-old Margaret Beaufort, watches the war preparations in their courtyard with interest.
It's 1475, four years on from the last round of bloodletting in the Wars of the Roses.
Since then.
Plenty has changed for her.
For a start, Margaret has been widowed for the third time and married for the fourth.
Her most recent husband, Henry Stafford, died in 1471 after wounds he sustained fighting for King Edward at the Battle of Barnet.
So now she's married to 40-year-old Stanley, the most powerful lord in northwest England, as well as steward of the royal household.
This close connection between the two is a key.
His connection with the Yorkist king is keeping Margaret immune from suspicion that she's a closet supporter of the Lancastrian faction Edward recently destroyed.
And that's just as well.
It's true that the Lancastrians were crushed in 1471.
Henry VI murdered, Warwick the Kingmaker slain in battle, Margaret of Anjou arrested, and her son killed.
But that makes Margaret a little more vulnerable.
Because it may be that her only son, Henry Tudor, is now the last heir to the Lancastrian cause.
Aged 18, Henry's living in exile across the Channel, on the assumption that England and Wales aren't safe for him anymore.
Could it be that one of Edward's side quests in his military expedition to France might be to get Henry back in his clutches?
Margaret has to assume it.
So as she watches her husband Stanley put the final touches to his war preparations,
she knows her entire family's survival hinges on what happens next.
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Season 10 of A Dynasty to Die For.
Episode 7, The Tribute Act.
Episode 10, The Tribute Act.
25 years ago, or thereabouts,
when I was a student, and forever on the lookout for high jinx and entertainment,
I would often go on a Monday night to an Irish pub
to watch a singer we used to call Fat Elvis.
Fat Elvis probably had a name.
One that wasn't Fat Elvis, I mean.
But the fact was, he was an Elvis Presley impersonator,
and even by late period Elvis standards,
the guy was carrying some timber.
So Fat Elvis was the name we gave him.
Never to his face.
What was the appeal of Fat Elvis?
Honestly, the same as pretty much every musical tribute act,
from Guns Not Roses, to the Australian Pink Floyd, to Wrong Jovi.
It was an exercise in hearing the greatest hits belted out,
and not worrying too much about the dodgy wig, cheap plastic sunglasses,
and exceptionally tight-fitting rhinestone jumpsuit.
You know how it is.
Some nights, you just want to hear Hound Dog and Unchained Melody
howled in the direction of the moon,
and you don't care who it is that's doing the howling.
Why am I telling you about Fat Elvis?
Well, because in 1475, Edward IV,
who by this stage has piled on a few pounds himself,
has decided to perform a tribute act of his own.
It's more than 20 years since the last English land holdings in France,
other than Calais, were lost.
It's coming on for half a century,
since anyone over in the land of the long white baguette
was genuinely scared by the prospect of an English invasion.
But Edward has decided that in the aftermath of his dire trouble
with Warwick and the Lancastrians,
what England needs to lighten the mood
is to turn the clock back and party like it's 1429.
It's the Hundred Years' War redux.
When in doubt, go give the French a good kicking.
In 1475, that means raising a massive army
and shipping it across the Channel
with the intention of causing some good old-fashioned mayhem.
It means allying with the Duke of Burgundy
to batter the King of France.
It means Edward squeezing his rapidly expanding ass into his armour
and making like he's Fat Henry V,
or indeed making like he's Fat. any of the other Plantagenet kings who went to war back in the day.
Which, to be fair, Edward freely acknowledges.
When he's in the planning stages of his campaign,
he gets one of his flunkies to stand up in Parliament
and make a speech asking Parliament to grant a war tax.
That speech directly references the foreign campaigns
of Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, Edward I and Edward III.
And it mentions. It mentions them all most approvingly.
It's a fact of English policy, says the flunky,
that it is not well possible, nor has been since the conquest,
that justice, peace and prosperity have continued any while in this land,
in any king's day, except in such as have made war outward.
War is peace, you see.
Or war on the fromage guzzlers who've been England's enemies
since time immemorial is, at any rate.
So, even though. Even though the Hundred Years' War wrapped up
with a comprehensive French victory at the Battle of Castillon in 1453,
Edward now wants to stir things up again.
He says he wants the old Plantagenet heirlooms back,
Normandy and Gascony, or things will get nasty.
And while this war is definitely retro,
it's not going off half-cocked.
Because the military mobilisation that takes place in 1475
involves Edward assembling the biggest army in living memory.
13,000 hard bastards, tough from decades,
of civil strife at home he hires artillery manufacturers to make him some
ridiculously huge cannon his big guns include a frankly monstrous bombard
named the great Edward of Calais it's the size of sixty or more regular cannon
if war is on some level a pintle waving contest Edward is determined to have the
biggest swinging bombard on the block the upshot is that when Edward sets sail
across the channel in 1475 backed by loyal lieutenants like his best mate
Lord Hastings and Margaret Beaufort's husband Thomas Stanley it may be a
throwback but it's definitely not a joke so what's Edwards intended strategy well
that's pretty retro too after shipping his men and guns to
English-held Calais Edward makes it known that he'll march on Paris via
towns held by the Burgundians working with Burgundy
was a mainstay of Henry V successes back in the day and Edward has spent his
whole reign cultivating the Duke who's married to Edward's sister under the
terms of 1474 treaty of London the Duke of Burgundy is honor bound to support
Edward in his war if things go Edwards way this little setup could be a pretty
tasty campaign except well there's a catch even though no one can doubt the
scale of Edwards military preparations French diplomats at the court of the
fifty-two-year-old Louis the 11th reckon they have the Yorkist Kings measure they
don't doubt his ambition or his military resume but they do see that Edward is
only a Henry V tribute act and not the real deal because that beer belly
Edwards carrying now he's in his mid-30s it tells a story of its own the king has
a reputation for enjoying the finer things in life with more stamina for
sinking pints and chirps in wenches than for long grueling months on foreign
campaign the smart money says look past the big guns and the legions of doom
ignore the white noise about having Normandy and Gascony back Edward
probably has a price give him enough gold and a few tasty treats and this war
could be over without a shot being fired Edward probably has a price give him enough gold and a few tasty treats and this war could be over without a shot being fired
Edward probably has a price give him enough gold and a few tasty treats and this war could be over without a shot being fired in anger so while Edward disembarks his troops
in anger so while Edward disembarks his troops
in anger so while Edward disembarks his troops at Calais in July 1475 and goes on a
at Calais in July 1475 and goes on a
at Calais in July 1475 and goes on a little March which includes camping two
little March which includes camping two
little March which includes camping two nights at Agincourt and shouting yaboo
nights at Agincourt and shouting yaboo
nights at Agincourt and shouting yaboo sucks but a few minor nearby cities
sucks but a few minor nearby cities
sucks but a few minor nearby cities there's not a chance of a real set to on
there's not a chance of a real set to on
there's not a chance of a real set to on the scale of Henry the fifth's great
the scale of Henry the fifth's great
the scale of Henry the fifth's great battle in fact right from the start
battle in fact right from the start
battle in fact right from the start messengers are running back and forth
messengers are running back and forth
messengers are running back and forth between Edwards camp and Paris asking
between Edwards camp and Paris asking
between Edwards camp and Paris asking how much it would cost for him to go
how much it would cost for him to go
how much it would cost for him to go away
away
away on August the 29th that question is
on August the 29th that question is
on August the 29th that question is answered
answered
answered after just a few weeks of haggling
after just a few weeks of haggling
after just a few weeks of haggling Edward meets Louis the 11th of France at
Edward meets Louis the 11th of France at
Edward meets Louis the 11th of France at the town of Peking on a bridge over the
the town of Peking on a bridge over the
the town of Peking on a bridge over the river Somme there they shake hands on a
river Somme there they shake hands on a
river Somme there they shake hands on a treaty which gives Edward a large
treaty which gives Edward a large
treaty which gives Edward a large payment in gold up front and a regular
payment in gold up front and a regular
payment in gold up front and a regular pension worth 10 000 pounds a year
pension worth 10 000 pounds a year
pension worth 10 000 pounds a year thereafter English troops are allowed to
thereafter English troops are allowed to
thereafter English troops are allowed to drink for free for five days in the
drink for free for five days in the
drink for free for five days in the nearby pubs in return Edward agrees to
nearby pubs in return Edward agrees to
nearby pubs in return Edward agrees to drop once and for all the English claims
drop once and for all the English claims
drop once and for all the English claims to Normandy and Gascony
to Normandy and Gascony
to Normandy and Gascony an eyewitness who sees the meeting
an eyewitness who sees the meeting
an eyewitness who sees the meeting recalls the two Monarchs embracing each
recalls the two Monarchs embracing each
recalls the two Monarchs embracing each other through a safety barrier erected
other through a safety barrier erected
other through a safety barrier erected on the bridge to prevent any funny
on the bridge to prevent any funny
on the bridge to prevent any funny business he recalls Edward wearing a black velvet cap on his head decorated
business he recalls Edward wearing a black velvet cap on his head decorated with a large fleur-de-lis of precious
with a large fleur-de-lis of precious
with a large fleur-de-lis of precious stones he was a very good-looking Prince
stones he was a very good-looking Prince
stones he was a very good-looking Prince but he was beginning to get fat and I had
but he was beginning to get fat and I had
but he was beginning to get fat and I had seen him on previous occasions looking
seen him on previous occasions looking
seen him on previous occasions looking more handsome the same chronicler also
more handsome the same chronicler also
more handsome the same chronicler also overhears Louis offering to host Edward
overhears Louis offering to host Edward
overhears Louis offering to host Edward Paris where he'll give him a table of
Paris where he'll give him a table of
Paris where he'll give him a table of ladies to dine with and a confessor to
ladies to dine with and a confessor to
ladies to dine with and a confessor to absolve him from sin afterwards behind
absolve him from sin afterwards behind
absolve him from sin afterwards behind Edward's back he later jokes that he's
Edward's back he later jokes that he's
Edward's back he later jokes that he's driven the English out of his country
driven the English out of his country
driven the English out of his country with wine and venison pasties
with wine and venison pasties
with wine and venison pasties it's fair to say that Louis has Edward's
it's fair to say that Louis has Edward's
it's fair to say that Louis has Edward's number or is great but have you ever
number or is great but have you ever
number or is great but have you ever tried eating a deer pie off a naked
tried eating a deer pie off a naked
tried eating a deer pie off a naked French girl's back while rolling in a
French girl's back while rolling in a
French girl's back while rolling in a bed full of money
bed full of money
bed full of money five days later the English Army is back
five days later the English Army is back
five days later the English Army is back in Calais by the end of September the
in Calais by the end of September the
in Calais by the end of September the army is back in London when word gets
army is back in London when word gets
army is back in London when word gets out of the debacle there's a widespread
out of the debacle there's a widespread
out of the debacle there's a widespread public disbelief that such a huge Army
public disbelief that such a huge Army
public disbelief that such a huge Army came back having seen virtually no
came back having seen virtually no
came back having seen virtually no action except what they found in the
action except what they found in the
action except what they found in the taverns and bath houses
taverns and bath houses
taverns and bath houses among the ordinary people Edward's
among the ordinary people Edward's
among the ordinary people Edward's approach to International diplomacy is
approach to International diplomacy is
approach to International diplomacy is met with a mixture of scorn and hilarity
met with a mixture of scorn and hilarity
met with a mixture of scorn and hilarity but one person isn't laughing
but one person isn't laughing
but one person isn't laughing that's Margaret Beaufort because she
that's Margaret Beaufort because she
that's Margaret Beaufort because she knows that the treaty Edward has struck
knows that the treaty Edward has struck
knows that the treaty Edward has struck with the French King but her son Henry
with the French King but her son Henry
with the French King but her son Henry Tudor in considerable danger
Tudor in considerable danger
Tudor in considerable danger Henry isn't mentioned in the Treaty of
Henry isn't mentioned in the Treaty of
Henry isn't mentioned in the Treaty of piccini but with Louis bending over
piccini but with Louis bending over
piccini but with Louis bending over backwards to offer Edward bribes to stay
backwards to offer Edward bribes to stay
backwards to offer Edward bribes to stay at home he could very well be next
at home he could very well be next
at home he could very well be next year's venison pasty
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the guards lead Henry Tudor up the
the guards lead Henry Tudor up the stairs of the huge octagonal keep of a
stairs of the huge octagonal keep of a
stairs of the huge octagonal keep of a castle in Brittany known as the Chateau
castle in Brittany known as the Chateau
castle in Brittany known as the Chateau la goy it's a hell of a slog the keep or
la goy it's a hell of a slog the keep or
la goy it's a hell of a slog the keep or Central Tower stands 45 meters tall
Central Tower stands 45 meters tall
Central Tower stands 45 meters tall which makes it one of the biggest in
which makes it one of the biggest in
which makes it one of the biggest in Brittany or anywhere else in Greater
Brittany or anywhere else in Greater
Brittany or anywhere else in Greater France and Henry is being taken almost
France and Henry is being taken almost
France and Henry is being taken almost to the top to rooms in the sixth of its
to the top to rooms in the sixth of its
to the top to rooms in the sixth of its seven stories
seven stories
seven stories he blinks as they trudge up the endless
he blinks as they trudge up the endless
he blinks as they trudge up the endless flights of steps trying to adjust his
flights of steps trying to adjust his
flights of steps trying to adjust his eyes to the gloom the tower gets barely
eyes to the gloom the tower gets barely
eyes to the gloom the tower gets barely any natural light beyond what trickles
any natural light beyond what trickles
any natural light beyond what trickles through tiny windows barely bigger than
through tiny windows barely bigger than
through tiny windows barely bigger than arrow slits the dinginess is a reminder
arrow slits the dinginess is a reminder
arrow slits the dinginess is a reminder just in case Henry needed one that now
just in case Henry needed one that now
just in case Henry needed one that now he's inside the Chateau he isn't going
he's inside the Chateau he isn't going
he's inside the Chateau he isn't going anywhere which is both a relief and a bit
anywhere which is both a relief and a bit
anywhere which is both a relief and a bit of a worry Henry first arrived in
of a worry Henry first arrived in
of a worry Henry first arrived in Brittany in 1471 washed up near the
Brittany in 1471 washed up near the
Brittany in 1471 washed up near the little fishing port of leconque after he
little fishing port of leconque after he
little fishing port of leconque after he and his uncle Jasper Tudor fled Wales in
and his uncle Jasper Tudor fled Wales in
and his uncle Jasper Tudor fled Wales in the aftermath of the collapse of Henry
the aftermath of the collapse of Henry
the aftermath of the collapse of Henry the sixth's re-adaption back then it was
the sixth's re-adaption back then it was
the sixth's re-adaption back then it was a relief to be out of Wales where they
a relief to be out of Wales where they
a relief to be out of Wales where they were being pursued by Edward IV's men
were being pursued by Edward IV's men
were being pursued by Edward IV's men determined to round up anyone who might
determined to round up anyone who might
determined to round up anyone who might be a threat to the throne Edward had
be a threat to the throne Edward had
be a threat to the throne Edward had come so close to losing since then
come so close to losing since then
come so close to losing since then Henry and Jasper have been the
Henry and Jasper have been the
Henry and Jasper have been the Honourable guests of the Duke of
Honourable guests of the Duke of
Honourable guests of the Duke of Brittany Francis II old Francis is a
Brittany Francis II old Francis is a
Brittany Francis II old Francis is a sure they've been well fed and watered
sure they've been well fed and watered
sure they've been well fed and watered and kept in a keeping that befits their
and kept in a keeping that befits their
and kept in a keeping that befits their noble status
noble status
noble status which is only right after all Jasper
which is only right after all Jasper
which is only right after all Jasper Tudor is a half-brother of poor old
Tudor is a half-brother of poor old
Tudor is a half-brother of poor old Henry VI as was Henry's father Edmund
Henry VI as was Henry's father Edmund
Henry VI as was Henry's father Edmund not that he ever met the guy
not that he ever met the guy
not that he ever met the guy that said you get nothing for free in
that said you get nothing for free in life and what's been clear from the
life and what's been clear from the
life and what's been clear from the get-go is that Francis of Brittany has a
get-go is that Francis of Brittany has a
get-go is that Francis of Brittany has a very good ulterior motive in being nice
very good ulterior motive in being nice
very good ulterior motive in being nice to Jasper and Henry Tudor he's a smart
to Jasper and Henry Tudor he's a smart
to Jasper and Henry Tudor he's a smart politician with one main goal in life
politician with one main goal in life
politician with one main goal in life that's to stop his Duchy from being
that's to stop his Duchy from being
that's to stop his Duchy from being absorbed into the Kingdom of France
absorbed into the Kingdom of France
absorbed into the Kingdom of France so from the moment he clapped eyes on
so from the moment he clapped eyes on
so from the moment he clapped eyes on them Francis has viewed the Tudors as
them Francis has viewed the Tudors as
them Francis has viewed the Tudors as Pawns in that bigger game of diplomatic
Pawns in that bigger game of diplomatic
Pawns in that bigger game of diplomatic chess since 1471 he's moved them several
chess since 1471 he's moved them several
chess since 1471 he's moved them several times on each occasion professing to have
times on each occasion professing to have
times on each occasion professing to have their best interests at heart but really
their best interests at heart but really
their best interests at heart but really safeguarding his own he had them at his
court in Vannes, then in a remote castle called Soussigno, near the coast, then in the city of
Nantes. And now Henry is here at the Chateau de la Gueuille, while Jasper is somewhere else entirely,
30 miles away at the Chateau Josselin. They've been split up for a reason, and Henry can guess
what it might be. He's aged 18, a young man with a long face, with dark hair, and one eye a little
higher than the other. He's old and gnarly enough to understand that somewhere outside this tower,
the diplomatic game is moving along. It's very possible that Francis is considering swapping
him out for someone more valuable. Henry's right. In 1475, as we've just heard, Edward IV has
sworn to be the king of France. He's the king of France. He's the king of
swept over to France mob-handed and come back having changed the whole complexion of European
diplomacy. The Treaty of Piquigny has put him on friendly terms with the French crown,
and that has implications for Brittany and the Tudors. For one thing, it means that Henry and
his uncle Jasper have lost an insurance policy. While they were in Brittany from 1471,
they could rely on the fact that Louis XI of France was guaranteed to intervene to prevent
them from being extradited to England. Jasper is one of the French king's cousins, through his
mother Catherine de Valois. Besides which, having a potential rival claimant to the English crown
would be a thing too tempting for Louis to resist when England and France were officially enemies.
but now they're officially friends, Louis has far less incentive to interfere with any attempts the
English might make to bargain with Duke Francis to get the Tudors back. In fact, Louis is more
likely to actively push for Francis to send the Tudors back. Splitting Henry and Jasper up is an
obvious sign that this is now a realistic possibility.
And so it comes to pass.
Throughout 1475 and 1476, Henry Tudor lives in the Chateau de la Goye with not very much
to do except stare out of the tiny windows at the miles of surrounding woodland.
But in late 1476, after a long period of lobbying from England, his guards come to tell him
that he's been taken to Saint-Malo on the coast.
There, English ships are waiting to bring him in.
This is crisis time, and Henry knows it.
Edward has promised Duke Francis a lot of gold to hand Henry back
and assured him that he'll be treated respectfully in England
and married off to some pretty young bride.
Henry's filing that one under T for total horseshit.
there's no doubt in his mind as to what'll happen to him if he's loaded onto those ships.
Word has now got around Europe of what happened to another enemy of Edward IV's
when he was on a ship crossing the Channel last year.
In 1475, Henry Holland, Duke of Exeter, a troublesome nobleman Edward never liked,
was travelling with the rest of the army by ship home from Edward's aborted military invasion of
France. On the way, he very strangely happened to slip overboard and drown in the sea.
Officially, it was an accident, but what are the chances? Gossips all over Europe have agreed on
the story that he was thrown overboard on Edward's orders. What's good for the Duke of Exeter will be
more than good enough for Henry Tudor, so when he reaches Saint-Malo, Henry does the only thing he
can think of to try and save his own skin. He pulls a sickie, claiming to be far too ill to travel
anywhere. Henry's a good enough actor to win himself a delay, and during that delay, Duke Francis has
a change of heart. One of his leading advisors, who's been responsible for guarding Henry for the
last few years, tells the Duke that if he lets Henry be sent back to England, he'll have blood
on his hands. He'll be giving an innocent young man to butchers for the rending, the tormenting,
and finally the killing. Francis hears this and has a change of heart. He arranges for Henry to
take sanctuary in a local church at Saint-Malo, guarded by an angry mob of townsfolk who warn
the English that if they try to get him out, they'll have their balls on a stick.
By Christmas, Edward's men have realised they're not leaving Brittany with Henry.
By Christmas, the young man is back at Vann, reunited with his uncle Jasper.
This is the sort of tiny event on which history turns, and there's only one person more
delighted at Henry's escape from extradition than Henry himself.
That's his dear old mum, Margaret Beaufort.
But Margaret knows she can't rely on good luck to save her lad every time.
She needs to step up, and fast.
Observe the North American Dad, fifties, great polo collection.
He enters his vehicle information on Carvana.
An offer appears in minutes, remarkable.
He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, dang, that's a good offer.
The highest form of approval.
No haggling, no hassle, no one called him boss.
still on the couch. Astonishing. Sell your car today on Carvana.com. Pickup fees may apply.
The solemn parade of Yorkists files into the grand church at Fotheringay in the Midlands,
accompanied by churchmen and a crowd of respectful onlookers.
This is a service of the utmost solemnity, and everyone is on their most somber and magnificent
behaviour. Margaret Beaufort stands among the women, playing her own part in the service.
She watches as two coffins are drawn into the church and lifted into splendid tombs built to
house them. The remains within the coffins are many years dead, but they're afforded as much
respect as any of the living, because they belong to the Yorkist patriarch Richard, Duke of York,
and his second son, Edmund, Earl of Rutland.
Those two lost their lives at the Battle of Wakefield in 1460,
after which Richard was beheaded and his head stuck on the city gates in York,
a paper hat pinned mockingly on it.
For a rerun of that battle, go back to episode 12 of season 9
of A Dynasty to Die For, Rise of the Yorks.
Since then, they've lain in a monastery in Pontefract,
But now King Edward has decided to give them the posthumous respect they deserve.
So here are the whole extended family circle, pouring some out for the OGs.
The chief mourner is King Edward's youngest brother, Richard, Duke of Gloucester.
But standing alongside him, right beside the coffins, is Margaret's husband, Thomas Stanley.
And here's Margaret herself, keeping the Yorkist noblewomen company after they lay their offerings on the church's high altar.
There could be no more visible association with the king's inner circle than this.
And however hard Margaret has to bite her tongue, as she stands there, she's going to bite it.
Because you know what they say, if you can't beat them, join them.
Ever since Margaret's son, Henry Tudor, narrowly escaped a permanent dunking in the English channel, that's been her policy.
Rather than trying to fight against the regime, she's cementing her position inside it.
Her hope is that she can build the influence she needs to either secure a peaceful life for Henry abroad or bring him home with the genuine promise of safety.
She's pragmatic enough to know that this is the only realistic aim.
Every further year that Edward IV sits fat and happy on the throne
makes the likelihood of one last Lancastrian revolution more unlikely.
And he's not short on heirs either.
His eldest son, Edward, born during the crisis of the re-adaption, is about to turn six years old.
He and Queen Elizabeth Woodville also have a younger boy, called Richard, who's two.
Then there's George, Duke of Clarence.
Idiotic, but virile enough to have fathered several kids, including a boy called Edward, Earl of Warwick.
And the king's youngest brother, Richard, Duke of Gloucester, also has a son.
At a conservative estimate, that makes a royal succession of five males in the immediate Yorkist family.
There's been no healthier line of succession since Edward III's days, a hundred years ago.
This family is going nowhere.
The key to survival is going to have to be going nowhere with them.
And that's why Margaret is here at Fotheringay, paying her respects to the guy who arguably
started the Wars of the Roses, it's also why, in 1478, she'll be at Westminster beaming
with the rest of the congregation when the king's youngest son Richard gets married, aged four,
to a six-year-old noble heiress from East Anglia. It's why two years later, when Edward and Elizabeth
Woodville have yet another child, a daughter called Bridget, Margaret will be given the honour
of carrying the baby to the font for her baptism. Since she was 13 years old, giving birth to Henry
Tudor in Pembroke Castle, Margaret has been a survivor. Nothing's changed. What's more,
she has a game plan. Sucking up to the royal house of York isn't an end in itself. What she wants,
ultimately, is to convince the king to sign off on a deal that brings her son back from Brittany,
gets him out of the politics of France, and hands him his late father's noble title.
Once upon a time, before he died of plague, Edmund Tudor was Earl of Richmond,
a wealthy area in North Yorkshire. That title comes with lands, prestige, and money.
If Margaret can persuade King Edward that Henry Tudor should get it in right of his father,
that would be a pretty good outcome. Of course, getting it is easier said than done,
because there's one particular roadblock,
standing in Margaret's way. Which is that someone else already holds the title of Earl of Richmond.
It's been in his hands since the days of the re-adaption, when dithering old Henry VI gave it
to the useful idiot, George, Duke of Clarence. At that hot moment, Clarence was a turncoat,
who'd lined up with the Lancastrians and the re-adaption. Now, of course, he's back on the
Yorkist side, but he's still Clarence. He's still the king of England, and he's still the king of
England, clinging onto the earldom, among his many other lands and titles. And Clarence is a tricky opponent. For all that he's a snake, a backstabber, and a low-down grifter, Clarence seems to have a mental hold over his brother the king, unlike anyone else.
Margaret is going to have to use all her powers of cunning to put one over on this guy. Unless, that is, Clarence.
But that's never going to happen. Is it? Is it? To find out. Come back next time for another episode of This Is History.
I said this season was beginning to sound a lot like a true crime podcast. Now, we have an augmented Edward IV,
the king of England, and the king of England. Now, we have an augmented Edward IV,
the alleged cold-blooded killer who's beginning to appear and act a lot more like Foghorn Leghorn.
Now, there'll be more opportunity to see Edward fail upward, but in the meantime, it's time for the
discussion starter for this episode. So, to my dear royal favourites, it's time to get your inner
tribute act out. If you could cosplay any Plantagenet king or queen, who would it be?
And what would your on-stage outfit be?
Let's get the band going on patreon.com forward slash thisishistory.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Edward IV launches a grand, theatrical invasion of France in 1475, mimicking Henry V’s tactics and style, but is widely seen as a comedic "tribute act" due to his obesity and lack of real military intent.
The French king, Louis XI, negotiates a treaty with Edward, offering substantial gold payments and indulgences in exchange for Edward’s withdrawal, effectively ending the campaign without battle.
Margaret Beaufort, Edward’s ally and wife of Thomas Stanley, watches the invasion with deep concern, fearing her son Henry Tudor—last Lancastrian heir—will be captured or killed.
Louis XI’s diplomatic shift from enemy to ally weakens the protection Henry and his uncle Jasper once had in Brittany, increasing the threat of their extradition.
Henry Tudor narrowly escapes capture by feigning illness, and is sheltered by the Duke of Brittany, sparking a key moment in which Margaret’s survival strategy becomes evident.
Margaret uses her political acumen to align with the Yorkist court, attending key ceremonies and gaining influence to secure her son’s future.
A major obstacle to Henry’s inheritance is the existing title of Earl of Richmond, held by George, Duke of Clarence, a politically dangerous and powerful figure who remains loyal to Edward IV.
Margaret’s long-term strategy is to gain royal favor through loyalty and quiet influence, not rebellion, aiming to win Edward’s consent for Henry to return safely and receive the title of Earl of Richmond.
Summary:
In 1475, Edward IV launches a large-scale, theatrically exaggerated invasion of France, styled as a tribute to Henry V, but lacking genuine military ambition. His campaign is met with skepticism, especially due to his physical appearance and the absurd scale of his preparations. Instead of fighting, Edward negotiates a humiliating treaty with Louis XI of France, securing massive financial payments in exchange for withdrawal.
The diplomatic victory, however, leaves the Lancastrian heir Henry Tudor in peril, as the new alliance between England and France undermines the protection Henry once enjoyed in Brittany. Margaret Beaufort, deeply aware of the danger, orchestrates a quiet political strategy to survive within the Yorkist regime. She supports Edward’s court, attends key ceremonies, and strengthens her influence, positioning herself to secure her son’s future.
However, a major obstacle remains: George, Duke of Clarence, still holds the title of Earl of Richmond, which Margaret seeks to transfer to Henry through Edward’s consent. This strategic maneuver reflects her pragmatic, behind-the-scenes approach—rejecting open rebellion in favor of survival and long-term political influence. Ultimately, the episode highlights how personal survival and political maneuvering define the fate of the Tudor claim, even in the shadow of a powerful and increasingly unreliable monarchy.
FAQs
Edward IV planned a large-scale invasion of France, modeled after Henry V's campaigns, to reclaim Normandy and Gascony. He assembled a massive army and even built a huge cannon called the 'Great Edward of Calais' to demonstrate his military might.
Louis XI saw Edward as a comedic and exaggerated figure, noting his obesity and poor physical fitness, which made him appear more like a 'Fat Henry V' than a serious conqueror. The king believed Edward was more interested in bribes than in actual warfare.
The invasion failed to achieve military success. Edward met Louis XI at a treaty in Piquigny, where France offered a large sum of gold and a yearly pension in exchange for dropping all claims to Normandy and Gascony, avoiding any actual battle.
Margaret was deeply concerned, as the treaty did not mention her son Henry Tudor, who was in exile. She feared that Henry would be handed over to England and used as a political pawn or even executed, making her more determined to protect him.
She adopted a pragmatic approach by aligning herself with the Yorkist regime, participating in royal ceremonies, and building influence through loyalty and presence. This helped her secure political safety and better opportunities for her son Henry.
The title of Earl of Richmond was her son Henry's rightful inheritance from his father, Edmund Tudor. Margaret hoped to persuade Edward IV to grant it to Henry, giving him legitimacy, status, and protection in England.
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