Hello and welcome to the Money Mentor podcast, the podcast for your financial education. I'm your
host Ken Mason. On this week's episode we discuss mortgages. A mortgage is a debt taken out to
purchase a property, usually a home. In the context of debt, a mortgage is the less bad debt
because it is secured against an asset that goes up in value long term. We should still view debt
as an anchor we want to cut loose from as quickly as possible. A mortgage is likely to be one of
the biggest financial commitments we make in our lives. The typical term of a mortgage in Ireland
is 30 years. There is great comfort and security in owning our own home. It is an interesting time
in the property market at the moment. Given many of us have adapted to working from home,
it begs the question, is all the added expense of living in or commuting to a specific location
necessary? If we were not physically tied to a particular location with work, where would we
live? Are we witnessing a structural transition in the way we work and live? Will the future of
some professions be a decentralized one? We start with the credit check. A clean credit history is
what the bank wants to see. We can obtain a copy of our credit report through the Central Credit
Register or Irish Credit Bureau. How much can we borrow and what deposit do we need? The better
our savings rate, the better our odds of achieving home ownership are. From a financial planning
perspective, it is preferable to borrow as little as possible. For most of us, a mortgage will be
required. The less money we borrow for a home, the lower the mortgage repayments, the more of our
income we save to build wealth. Yes, a home is an appreciating asset and will increase our
net worth over time. It is also an illiquid asset and it won't fund our lifestyle in retirement.
Debt adds financial risk to our lives. It is no secret that many see the central bank rules on
borrowing as punitive, especially given the lending practices of the past. The rules limit
our ability to borrow money, but for good reason. They exist to protect us from ourselves and to
keep the banks in check by ensuring we are unable to overextend ourselves financially.
Buying a home is a highly emotive purchase and it is easy to let the purse strings run wild
when borrowing such large sums of money. Our hopes and dreams of a home can have the most
discerning of us at sixes and sevens when it comes to being disciplined with our borrowing.
It is only natural to want to push the borrowing limits for more than is prudent. The rules are
likely to remain unchanged for the foreseeable future. The mortgage market is made up of first
time buyers, second time buyers and buy to let investors. The first hurdle is our income.
Under current central bank rules we can borrow three and a half times our annual income before
tax. If we earn 65,000 euro a year we can borrow 227,500 euro and if we have a significant other
who also earns 65,000 euro for a combined annual income of 130,000 euro we can borrow 455,000 euro.
The income multiplier can result in a mismatch between what we can borrow and what our expectations
might be. The second hurdle is a deposit. First time buyers need a minimum deposit of 10% of the
value of the property. Second time buyers need a minimum of 20% of the value of the property
and buy to let investors need 30% of the value of the property. So for a property worth 500,000 euro
a first time buyer will require a minimum deposit of 50,000 euro. A second time buyer a minimum
deposit of 100,000 euro and a buy to let investor a minimum of 150,000 euro. When saving for a deposit
it helps to start at the end and work back. For instance if we are saving for a 50,000 euro
deposit over five years that is 833 euro per month. If we are a couple it is 417 euro each per month.
Exemptions are available on either the income multiplier or the percentage borrowed. In a
calendar year banks can give approval to 20% of first time buyers and 10% of second time buyers
allowing for up to four and a half times our income. Exemptions are also available on the
borrowing percentage. In a calendar year banks can give approval to 5% of first time buyers
allowing for a deposit below 10% and 20% of second time buyers can have a deposit below
20%. Given exemptions are in high demand most of them are gone come the middle of the calendar year.
Credit worthiness and quality of mortgage application are big determining factors
in obtaining an exemption or not. When evaluating our application the bank is looking for secure
predictable income and permanent employment into the future. When deciding on the amount to borrow
and the term the 2535 threshold is a good rule of thumb. We should spend no more than 25% of our
before tax income on mortgage repayments and home insurance. If we do have additional debt we
should spend no more than 35% of our before tax income on mortgage repayments home insurance
and any additional debt. Just because we can borrow the maximum amount doesn't mean we have to.
We don't want to end up house poor. House poor is when a large portion of our income is tied up
in mortgage repayments. I say this because the monthly mortgage repayment eats into our ability
to save and therefore build wealth long term. The goal here is to balance our expectations.
Interest rates. An interest rate is a charge on the amount we borrow. Here are three examples of
the impact over 3% interest rate charge over a 30 year mortgage term across different amounts of
borrowing. If we borrow 250,000 we will pay 129,444 euro in interest for a total repayment amount of
379,444 euro. If we borrow 500,000 euro we will pay 258,887 euro in interest for a total
repayment amount of 758,887 euro. If we borrow 750,000 euro we will pay 388,331 euro in interest
for a total repayment amount of 1,138,331 euro. In each of these examples we pay over 51% of
our borrowed amount in interest over the 30 year term. The more we borrow and the longer our repayment
time horizon the more interest we will pay. In general the lower the interest rate the better.
There are two types of interest rates. Fixed or variable. A fixed interest rate is one that
remains the same for a given period of time. An example would be a 3% fixed interest rate
over 3 years. This means the interest rate stays at 3% for the 3 years. A fixed interest rate provides
monthly repayment certainty. Usually the longer the fixed rate the more of a premium we will pay
when compared with variable rates. With a fixed rate we may pay more in interest if the European
Central Bank, ECB lower rates and pay less interest if the ECB raises rates. We are usually unable to
increase our repayments or switch to another provider due to fixed rate penalties. A variable
interest rate is one that moves up or down depending on the ECB raising or lowering interest rates.
When on a variable rate we can increase repayments, pay off lump sums and switch providers for a
better deal. A fixed interest rate term of 3 to 5 years at the start of a mortgage is not uncommon.
Interest rates are currently at all time lows. It is important to remember that interest rates
reach double digits in the 1970s, 80s and early 90s. The long-term nature of a mortgage makes
them susceptible to interest rate risk. Interest rate risk is the risk interest rates rise and
therefore our monthly mortgage repayment will rise also. It's important to stress test our
repayment ability by doubling or tripling our current interest rate to see what it would mean
for our ability to repay relative to our income. Ideally we need to build in interest rate flexibility
to our mortgage repayments if on a variable rate. A 30-year mortgage assuming we don't increase our
repayments will end in 2050. If we go back 30 years to 1990 we can see that the average interest
rate over the previous 30 years was 6%. A lot happened over the last 30 years and a lot will
happen over the next 30 years. When dealing in long-term financial products such as pensions,
investments and mortgages it is important to remember small changes have a big impact over
time. What term should you use? The right term is a balance between the amount borrowed,
the monthly repayment amount and the interest rate. Usually the more we borrow the longer our
mortgage repayment time horizon will be. This is to ensure monthly repayments are affordable
relative to our income. We need to have flexibility within our income in case of interest rate rises
but at the same time be mindful that the longer our mortgage term is the more interest we will pay.
Lower repayments mean more interest but lower risk. Higher repayments mean less interest but higher
risk. It is about getting the balance right specific to our circumstances. The low interest rate
environment of today will in all likelihood not remain the same into the future. There isn't a
day that goes by as a financial planner where I wish I had the ability to see what the future
holds for clients. In the absence of such an ability we need to be mindful of and prepare
for the risks. Market risk. Market risk is the risk of our property value being below the amount
we borrowed. The property market like any other market is cyclical. The scars of the 2008 housing
crash will live long in the memory of anyone old enough to remember. Trying to time the property
market is like trying to time the investment market. Impossible. The reality is some of us will be
luckier than others. Interest rate risk is the risk interest rates rise beyond what we can afford
to spend on mortgage repayments. Health risk is the risk we get injured or become seriously sick
and are unable to work to pay the mortgage. Mortality risk is the risk of dying before
the mortgage term is finished. We must focus on what we can control while minimizing time spent
worrying on what we can't control. Focus on the inputs and the outputs will look after themselves.
Preparing for a mortgage begins a number of years before applying. To give ourselves the best
possible chance of a successful application we need to get financially organized. Mortgage
application red flags include late or unpaid direct debits, standing orders or credit card payments,
credit card cash withdrawals, overdrafts, gambling and short-term loans. The bank will likely query
cash withdrawals, inconsistent savings and any non-salary income. It's best to clear all outstanding
debts. That is any periodic payment for something we do not fully own. Having existing debt when
applying for a mortgage reduces our income's capacity to make mortgage repayments and will
likely result in a lower loan offer or mortgage refusal. Episode 3 financial goals, episode 4
financial organization and episode 5 debt will help us get mortgage ready. We need to think of a
mortgage application in the same way as a job interview. We want to put our best foot forward
by presenting our personal and financial documentation as best we can. Demonstrating
the ability to repay a mortgage by paying off debt, saving and/or renting to the level of the
likely mortgage repayment we are seeking while still being able to live. The bank will likely see
pension contributions as income that is unavailable to repay the mortgage. Depending on our circumstances
and the loan we are looking to obtain, we may need to consider reducing or stopping our pension
contribution altogether over the short term until funds are drawn down. There are a number of things
we can do to help ourselves in the lead-up to a mortgage application. If renting, we can move
home temporarily to reduce spending and speed up saving a deposit. We can look to boost income by
pursuing a raise at work, work overtime, upscale for better pay, secure a promotion, change jobs
for better pay and benefits, start a side hustle using our talents, expertise or skills, do some
freelance work, double job and sell non-essential possessions. There are government supports
available depending on our circumstances. Rebuilding Ireland Home Loan is a government
mortgage to assist first-time buyers purchasing a new, second-hand or self-built home. The help to
buy incentive is a refund of income tax and deposit interest retention tax over the previous four
years to help first-time buyers purchase a newly built or self-built home. All government support
information can be found online. If we are lucky enough to receive a gift, it can be a huge help
with our deposit. We can receive a gift of €3,000 from any one person each year without incurring
tax. So, if mum and dad would like to gift money towards a deposit, that is €6,000 per year tax-free,
€3,000 from mum and €3,000 from dad or anyone for that matter. It doesn't matter if it comes from
a joint account, we can also receive up to €335,000 as a gift from our parents during our lifetimes
tax-free. This is particularly important when it comes to estate planning. A gift can only form part
of our minimum deposit, around 4-5%, as the bank will need to see our ability to save consistently
for a sustained period of time. Property ownership structure, join tenants and tenants in common.
A joint tenant means both tenants own 100% of the property. On the death of one tenant,
the property passes to the surviving tenant. Joint tenancy is the most common type of ownership
in Ireland. Tenants in common means both tenants' ownership is separate to one another. On the
death of one tenant, their ownership percentage in the property passes to the deceased tenant's estate.
Where to apply? A broker or a bank. A broker has access to a wide range of lenders and should cut
down on the time and energy required to find the most suitable lender for our circumstances.
We can also go directly to a bank. Going direct to a bank gives us one option, whereas a broker
provides multiple options. If we are confident we are getting the best deal with the bank and have
done our homework, going direct is perfectly fine. Mortgage brokers are an outsourced function
of the mortgage market. They gather all the information, reconcile the details against
lending requirements and liaise between the client and the bank. The better mortgage brokers charge
a screening fee and will be remunerated by commission once we draw down mortgage funds.
Transparency is the key here. What you are paying, why you are paying it and the added value you are
receiving should all be clearly identifiable. If you don't understand something, ask the question.
Be sure to shop around. Banks will offer us all sorts of short term incentives to distract us
from the best deal long term. Cashback is one such measure to disguise a worse deal long term.
Focus on obtaining the best interest rate, because we will end up paying more over the
long term if we take the short term incentive. When making our mortgage application we will
be requested to provide the following documentation, proof of ID, address and PPSN number, payslips,
usually the last three, salary certificate from employer, employment details summary,
formerly P60, certified accounts if self-employed, current, savings and loan accounts for up to
12 months. Approval in principle will only be as strong as the level of detail the mortgage
provider has requested for review. The more in depth the review process, the greater we can
rely on the approval in principle. Once received we can then begin house hunting. When viewing
properties it is important to do our homework of the property itself, neighbors and the surrounding
area. It is a big life and financial decision so we need to treat it as such. It's important to
consider all of the pros and cons. Enter the process with our eyes wide open. When negotiating
know our limits and know when to walk away. Research the properties already sold in the area
and talk to people to get a feel for the community. Being a cash buyer can work to our advantage
if the seller is looking for a quick sale. Some buyers bidding need to sell their property
to pay for the seller's property. This is called a chain and is an important point of negotiation
when a buyer and a seller are considering their options. Buyers and sellers reneging
on agreements is commonplace so it's important not to build up our expectations too much during
the offer stage. It's good to keep our options open. It's easy to get caught up in seeking mortgage
approval and house hunting and to forget the other mortgage related expenses such as local property
tax, legal fees, quantity surveyor costs, engineers report, moving costs, repairs, decoration,
furniture and furnishings, stamp duty and so on. Mortgage protection is life cover that the bank
requires before we can draw down funds. It pays off our debt with the bank in the event of our
death. The bank will offer you its own products therefore it is a good idea to shop around on
the open market through a financial planner. Anticipate a four to six week lead time to obtain
mortgage protection to ensure there are no delays drawing down funds. The switcher market is one
of the largest untapped markets in Ireland and it's one that could save Irish mortgage holders
a lot of money. We should review our mortgage interest rate annually to ensure it is competitive.
For example, say our outstanding balance on our mortgage is €400,000 at 3.5% interest
with 20 years of repayments to go. If we switched our mortgage to another provider on the same terms
only at a 3% interest rate we would save €24,348 over the term of the mortgage. So as little as
half a percent can save us a significant amount of money. Small changes over a long time horizon
have a profound impact on our wealth building efforts. Think of how much time at work we will
have saved not paying €24,348. Switching our mortgage is no longer as difficult and arduous
as it once was. If we are a homeowner and we have the financial means to trade up we can ask
ourselves is our current home our forever home? Depending on the answer to this question
we may start to look at what trade up options are available to us. It's important to remember
that there is no capital gains tax on our principal primary residence. There may come a point in time
in the future where the kids have grown up and flown the nest. Depending on how much of our
net worth is in our home and our emotional attachment to the property we may seek to downsize.
This has benefits of freeing up some cash locked away in our home to boost our spending in retirement.
This assumes we are free of mortgage debt before retiring. In summary, for most of us a mortgage
is a necessary evil to purchase a home. Focus on maximizing what we can control. We need to
understand what we can borrow, what it will cost us, what obstacles we need to overcome,
and what might improve our borrowing position. Buying a home is a highly emotive experience
that can feel like a roller coaster, low lows and high highs. Home ownership is a huge achievement.
Following the financial goals in episode three, if we are fully funding our financial independence
goal and have surplus income we can choose to live a little more or pay off the mortgage.
Smashing through mortgage debt should be a top priority. The Competition and Consumer Protection
Commission and Citizens Information websites are a brilliant resource on all things financial,
but especially when it comes to information on mortgages. Bunkers.ie and AskAboutMoney.ie are
also solid resources but are not to substitute good advice. The term let the buyer beware rings
through of any industry, but especially the property industry. This is due to the high-risk
nature of a mortgage transaction given the amounts of money involved. Be prepared, seek
good counsel and remain disciplined. This week's book recommendations are Rich Dad Poor Dad. What
the rich teach their kids about money that the poor and middle class do not by Robert Kiyosaki.
The author contrasts the financial philosophies of two dads with opposing views on money. It makes
for an engaging and eye-opening look at how different money beliefs can impact our wealth
building efforts and never split the difference, negotiating as if your life depended on it by
Chris Voss. A former FBI hostage negotiator provides insights and skills that help him succeed
in life or death situations. While not on the same level, life is full of negotiations and this
book relays some of the techniques that can be used to optimize outcomes. This week's movie
recommendations are The Banker. In 1960s America, a revolutionary businessman arrives in LA with plans
to grow his real estate empire by buying a couple of banks. The only problem, he is black. Starring
Anthony Mackie, Samuel L. Jackson and Neil Long. And Greyhound, Tom Hanks plays a US Navy commander
seeking to escort an allied convoy across the North Atlantic safely during World War II.
Their mission is to identify, chase and destroy any enemy submarines that get in their way.
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