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And then later today, I'm going to go look at all this art. Sorry, you went to the cave to drink wine? Yes. Yeah. And was the idea that you, wine tastes better when you can't see or hear other stuff? They are trying to get you to get to the cave to put a boulder in front of it. I'm happy forever. They want you to focus more on the texture, on the smells. But yeah, so it was very. And also caves are sort of classically where wine was kept because the temperature stays at a good. Gotcha. And when you go into this cave, is it like a cave seating or have they kind of made it like modern? They made this one modern, but they have some like more ancient caves as well. Gotcha. That was at the point of this one in the newer caves. It was in a, it was made, it was like sort of has like a smooth roof, I want to say, smooth walls. So they've, they've covered up the, the sort of rocks, but they have other ones that are just like. Gotcha. They covered up all the dirty cave paintings. I don't know if they were cave paintings in there. I don't know that it was like cavemen and then wine. There's some point, you know, if there's a cave, there's a good chance people used to live in it as something that I'm going to say with no research or search. There's a cave, somebody lived there. Yeah. So yeah, so I'm in the middle of doing that, but it's been. How long were you in the cave? Probably two, three hours, maybe two hours. Wow. Yeah. A lot of time in a cave. Did you, um, now I would be very excited because there'd be maybe some snacks along in the cave. Were there cave snacks? I didn't know why. What makes you think a cave has snacks? Well, because you're going into a cave to drink wine. Okay. I didn't know if you were thinking like caves in general, you think have snacks the way you think. No, I think like, I think a wine tasting has snacks and this one being in a cave, I would think I'd still get my snacks. Uh, yeah, I did not have any snacks. I just had some wine and did they not have snacks out or is it your, your vegan and you were like, no, thank you. I mean, maybe they had snacks and they knew about my veganism and they were like, our snacks aren't going to be good for this guy. I mean, man, oh man, if I went into a cave for three hours to drink some wine, I'd want a cracker. I'm just saying. I ate lunch before I went to the cave. All right. Yeah. I just feel like I just for any of you cave mongers out there, like just have some chips or something, bull and nuts. Do you think if you were traipsing through the woods, let's say, yeah, came upon a cave in the back of your mind to something say, oh, about their snacks in there. No. And by the way, I would never find out because I'm never going into a cave. Even if you were hungry, even I cannot tell you how hard it would have to be raining. It would have to be raining for me to go into a cave and unmarked cave. Yeah, that you didn't know what was going on in there. I mean, I guess I go into the overhang of a cave, but I would never go far enough into a cave that I wouldn't be able to see the exit. If you, yeah, if you like had a lighter, which would be strange for you to have a lighter, you don't think you'd click it on and just walk in. If I had like, yeah, cell phone flashlight or as with dad, because his cell phone flashlight is always on. Dad would be good. Dad if dad was doing his crossword on his phone and you would then know for some reason, I'm but don't say any of us his flashlight would also be on. I'd be like, take me into the cave. Yeah. There was, I don't know if I talked about this on this podcast, but there was a time mom, dad and I went out to a restaurant. It was on Rathus Vineyard, but you weren't there. And it's like in an old barn, like an old converted barn, a very nice restaurant, but it was so dim and everyone in there was of a certain age and everyone had their flashlights on. And it, like it didn't sound like a club from our Amsterdam days, but it looked like one because the beams of light just flashing around as people were trying to look at their menus. It's, I mean, again, you know, if you're watching this on YouTube right now, you couple pairs of cheaters, like it is. Like, I mean, again, it's, it's age discrimination, dim lights, tiny, tiny menu print. Yeah, yeah. It's like, just say, just put, just put a sign up. That's 42 in the younger assholes. Or turn the lights up. I did a show in Cape Cod. Place called Truro. Oh, yeah, McKenzie's family used to have a place in North Truro. I did a couple years ago and I was happy to go back, but two years ago, I had some real trepidation about it because I was told it was a tent with no running water. So like porta-potties, not side. Yeah, very nice tent as tents go, but it's also way off the main road. And it's an old, I want to say like naval radar base. So it's like a decommissioned military base. So you really feel like you're in the middle of nowhere. It feels like where you do stand up after the apocalypse. Like, what was that? It's like station 11? Station 11, yeah. Yeah. And, but I'd done it before and I kind of knew it would be a fun times. But I ferry over and like our drive and then did two shows. I did a, did a 430 and then a 730. Now there's no fairies. I've done this before, but like now it's a two hour drive to just like traffic. Different, different direction. Yeah, different, different place to get on what feels very much like a boat that would run cocaine. Go fast boat. I mean, it's just a bit like you go to like, it's like middle of like an onlit street. The boat pulls up, you get on boat and it brings you to add to the other side like 25 minutes. Oh, amazing. But like, it's great. I mean, is it like, is it the nose of the boat like banging over waves? It wasn't that choppy, but it is like it was, I was in like the hall. Is that what it was like? It was just like, yeah, it was, it was. It was not high in travel. Yeah. Okay. And then my brother-in-law very sweetly was like, I'll pick you up. And I'm like, I'll manage your shirt. It's going to be so late. He's like, yeah, just give me your ETA. And so then I was like ETA half an hour. Nothing. He didn't write back. And then I wrote, and I'm on a boat. Yeah. And I'm like, hey, you getting these? And he goes, you got it, brother. I'm on it. And so then I land, and I write him ETA. And he says 25 minutes. At which point I said, okay, we'll so turn around. Because I'm not going to wait 25 minutes. And there was an Uber right there. Yeah. well, that's sweet. Yeah, but it was it was a lot of fun. Thank you, Turo, for a really, really nice time. Yeah, nice, nice. We've got a wonderful conversation. Yeah, absolutely. A new bud. A new bud, Rosebud. Rosebud Baker. She's got a great new memoir, "Fully Baked." I highly recommend. It's really funny, very sweet. Yeah, sad at times. Just a great memoir. Yeah, and great story is here, and she's a fantastic conversation. So check it out and love you, Pashi. Love you, Sufi. Love you, Sufi. How are you? Really good. That's good. A chaotic drop off at school, but, you know, love you. Oh my gosh. You got one of those good schools that's taking people in the summer. Yeah, they're doing the camp. They call it camp. Yeah, that's how they trick the kids. How they trick the kids into thinking get something special. Exactly. Yeah. So wait, how old is yours? She's almost three. She'll be three in October. Oh, that's fantastic. I mean, if you can get a kid at a camp at like late two, it's good. I know. Yeah, she goes every day. She goes, "We're not going to school, are we?" And I'm like, "No, we're going to camp." And she's like, "It's a celebration." I don't know how I got away with that, but yeah, she believes it. You've got to get it. Just start calling school when back in September. You've got to just start calling it camp. Yeah, exactly. And your daughter's name is Minnow, is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, it's a family name. I mean, but Rose, but is not your given name? No, Rose Mary is my given name. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah, which is very nice. It's a very nice adjustment. It's a good adjustment. Rose Mary is like, "I feel like I'll adopt it later in life." Like, once I have a cane, I feel like Rose Mary has a really nice ring to it, but it has to be accompanied by a cane in my mind. Yeah. Yeah, and I will say, I try not to judge based on the name of the comic. Rose Mary Baker, I already am worried. Yeah. It's going to be like, I don't know. I'm like, I think this is going to be mostly cooking tips. Right. Yes. Right. Exactly. It's very, it's elderly. It's matronly is what it sounds like to me. Yeah. Yeah. If you considered what kind of cane you would like to get. It's got to be funky. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's like, you know, I'm at this stage in my life now where it's like, I'm starting to consider I'm like, what kind of old lady am I going to be? And it's like, you know, you can either, you can either dress younger than you're supposed to or you can go weird with it. And I'm going to go real weird with it. That's how I'm going to get real funky glasses. I'm going to get a cane to match. And I might, I might mess with a cape. I don't know. We'll see. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. A cape, you know, because there is, I think with a cane, you're like, is this funky or not? But a cape, there's no gray area. Yes. Yeah. You got this is all intentional. I feel like all the clothing they sell it like the MoMA gift shop is made for like older gals who have like decided to go and funky with it. Josh, you're, you are picking up exactly what I'm putting down. Yeah. Yeah. How is a you, as you think about being an older lady, how have the matrix in your life handled it? Like, do you have, did you have grandmothers that had a style that you would aspire to? No. Well, no. No. Yeah. My mom is definitely, my mom lives in Maine. She's divorced. She's, she's only been married once. She's divorced. And she moved to Maine. She's a painter. And so she lives on the St. George River. And she just paints all day long. And she has all of these friends. And she will call them up and ask to like rent their husband for the day. And then like, have their husband, her friends husbands like fixed stuff up around her place. And, and I kind of dig what she's doing. She's just, yeah. And had a boyfriend for a long time who was like a boat captain, like an Alaskan fishing boat captain. And she broke up with him. And this is a direct quote because he likes her too much. So I, I was like, that's, that's interesting. That's it. Yeah. As a reason to break up with someone. I like that you both described your mom and the lead character in a Stephen King novella. Yes. Okay. I feel like, I feel like this main painter who Barra's husband. Yeah. Right. Exactly. There's a lot of women being like, Hey, did he leave? Is he on his way home? It's like, yeah, no, he left an hour ago. As far as I know. Yeah. He was on his boat. See you grew up in Alexandria, Virginia. And when we think about that, is that basically DC? Like what's the basically? Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. It's like, they call it the DMV, which is like DC Maryland, Virginia. Like those, the border, those three states that border each other. Basically, I mean, DC's not a state. But, you know, yeah. You know, you think of Virginia and you kind of think of the South, but northern Virginia is like a different. It's more like DC Maryland. Got it. And I believe because we just watched it with my sons. I believe remember the Titans is. Yes. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I like that I immediately forgot a key plot of a movie that has a remember in the title. Yeah. I mean, I think that to be fair, I think that Virginia, Alexandria, Virginia and DC and Maryland are kind of the reason why they get grouped together is that they don't really have one personality. They're sort of, you know, and people will argue with me about this. But I don't see them as having like a strong, they don't really make a strong impression. Yeah. Okay. You know, well, there's a lot of people. I would imagine most people are, are they feeding into DC for work? Is that the sort of center of it all? Yeah. And I think that's part of why it sort of lacks personalities because DC is such a transitory place. I mean, literally people move in. And then four years later, they leave. So, you know, yeah. Did you was your, so should we picture your upbringing as like suburban? Definitely suburban. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yes. And your grandfather was James Baker, Secretary of State James Baker? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It goes to the end of the Cold War. Well, all that. Wow. Just almost like an emotional fort Knox of a grandfather. Do you know what I mean? I could see that. Yeah. I was wondering because, you know, if my children, if their grandfather, our dad hadn't negotiated the end of the Cold War, I don't think he would do anything but talk about it. Yeah. But it seems like that maybe wasn't the case. Was it? Was he sort of, was he, did he share the wealth of his incredible life with you guys? Or in terms of like, we talked about it a lot. And we would go to like, we would go to the White House and do Easter and like Christmas, sometimes not like Christmas day, but we would go to like the Christmas party. And I have like vague, vague recollection of that, but it wasn't, um, it wasn't really like, you know, to me, it was just like, oh, God, we're going to like brand ed's work again. It wasn't like we're going to the White House. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I remember being really fairly unimpressed with the whole thing, even as like, I mean, I was a kid. So obviously, but I just was like, this is not, I remember being like, you were like, I feel like there should be a ballroom, even as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a rental like. Was there, when you were going to the White House, I don't know if you'll remember this or not, but would you sort of get more of a talking to of like, hey, you have to be on your best behavior because this is. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I'm guessing for Easter, you're really like it's pastel dresses. I'm just thinking of the era and for sure, for sure, pastel dresses, you know, ribbons in your hair, matching ribbons, matching shoes, the whole nine. And I remember, um, and this is where you start to get into like where I ended up and it being the most obvious, you know, but it was like, it wasn't just the White House. It was like any time we went to go visit our grandparents, it was like, you got to dress up, you got to be on your best behavior. You can't, you can't be loud, you can't be, um, crass, you know, so it was. Um, it was like, there was a rule book that, that, that, when I, that accompanied, like, visiting my grandparents in a pretty strict rule book, you know, that, I feel like takes away a lot of the fun of having a grandparent, it totally, yeah, it totally does. Like, when I reach out to my granddad to this day, like, I, I have a secretary's number, like, I don't, you know, it's not, it's totally different thing. Yeah, like, when my kids, uh, I feel like they have grandparents, both sets are just like, like, they have a diplomatic community and they can just do whatever they want with my kids and they can't, you know, it's like, my kids go there to like, live their worst life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, now that I have a kid and I have a set of grandparents on the other side of the family, I'm starting to see what it's supposed to be and I'm going, oh my god, like, they just come home, she comes home with just suitcases full of like new stuff. Yeah. Well, that's what it's supposed to be. I had no idea. You know, I didn't know what I'd missed out on. We're next door to my in-laws in the summer and my daughter who is for just like woke up before anybody this morning went over to her grandfather's house, had a cookie and just came back over in a full nightmare because she had like just started her day with a cookie. Was anyone awake when she went? Yeah, he was. He's the one who gave her the cookie. Okay. I just didn't know if she like is like, well, that house, I know where the cookies are and she just sneaks in and steals a cookie. No, I mean, I wouldn't put it past her. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. 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I guess probably he will only travel for work. We would go on these family reunions every once in a while. I remember going on one family reunion. I believe it was in South Carolina. It was a resort in South Carolina. We did this for a while. We haven't done it in years. But all the uncles and their families would come and we'd all be on one resort. There would be these fancy dinners and we would all go to church together. It was always a very nice place to visit, a gorgeous resort, but not relaxing at all. Relaxing even a little bit. The parents were, they do love to drink. They love drinking. And you know, famous lady, you guys have seen succession. So you know the blood thirsty clamoring for the father's approval? I don't know if I was alone in this, but I remember watching succession and being like, oh, finally, like I'm seeing my family on television, you know, I'm finally seeing this kind of, it's funny, but it's dark. And it was, that was what I grew up with watching my dad and his brothers just clamoring for their father's approval and all of them being kind of a mess in their own right, you know. And you and how young do you think you were when you sort of clocked that dynamic? Were you the sort of kid who had a real sort of eye for that? Yeah, the first time I, well, you can't really miss it. It wasn't like, you know, I remember I tried to, I was a teenager and all the little grandkids were there for this family reunion. And I was like, oh, we'll do a talent show, like we'll do something that's like fun, you know. And I was like, all organized it. And we had this one big dinner in this ballroom. And there was a hallway adjacent to the ballroom. And I gathered all the, all the little grandkids in this hallway and peeked my head in to check to see if like the grownups were ready. And as I peek my head in, I see one of my uncles lunging across the table swinging at another uncle. And I remember like shutting the door and being like, okay, let's just do our stretches for a second. People just stretch for a little while. You know, just waiting for this to sort of, I don't know, die down or like I didn't, I was like, this is so insane. Like that's amazing. By the way, I liked that what I asked, I was like, did you notice, could you pick up on the social cues? Yeah, actually, yeah, I did. I did every now and then. Yeah. So yeah, they were, they were wild. They were an insane bunch of people. Did you have a large group of cousins? Was that a big part of your upbringing as well? Yes, yeah. I still have cousins where I'll go to, you know, if we were to have a family reunion today, I would have to, it was like VEEP where like my sister would be coming up and like whispering the names of my cousins into my ear while I was like shaking hands with them because I just, I was like, I don't know who you are. I don't remember seeing you. Wow. And it's kind of also mentioned that like, if I were to guess James on any of the men, like, there's a 50/50 chance that I would get started. That is, man, that is such a unique kind of family that obviously we're not a part of where there's just like names, just get passed down and passed down. And they're always like the normiest, most white bread names. Yes, yeah. And it was like, and it's always like, it's always like a dead relative. They always pick a dead relative and they just keep it going, you know? Yeah. So for me, when I was pregnant, I was like, I know there's going to be this pressure to like pick a family name. So I was like going back and forth about it. And then I thought, I have this aunt who was named after a dead relative, but her nickname was Minno. And then, and I really liked that nickname. I remember being like, that's a really pretty name. - Yeah. - And so that was the compromise that I made. That was the choice I made that sort of quieted down the peanut gallery in terms of like the name that I had chosen. - So it was greeted with acceptance. - Yeah. - Everybody was good with Minno when you get, yeah. Do you have anything about like having like multiple james is in the same generation of cousins? Is I feel like based on what you've said so far about the uncles, there's a real vibe of like, they can say like, not only you not the best cousin, you're not even the best james. (laughing) You're the fourth best james in this family. - Right, exactly. - And is it, I guess Minno's too little to know if Minno likes her name, but I would imagine that Minno's friends and cohort are pretty excited to have Minno in their group. - Yeah, so far. Yeah, I mean, I thought about it and I was like, is she gonna get like Lolita about this? But I'm like, I don't know if they're still doing that. I don't know. - Yeah, I think kids can find anything to bully someone about. You shouldn't, if it's the name it would have been something. - Right. - Yeah. - Right, might as well give them a name instead of, at least the name is like, they can change the name. - Yeah. - My boys' names are Ash and Axel and one of them the other day was like, why'd you name us after curse words? And we're like, what? And like, Ass, Asshole. - I don't know. - I did not realize until you said it that that's exactly what we really have given a full quiver of arrows to the bullies. (laughing) - What did you say to him? - I was just like, yeah, I would just like really hit the SH when you say it. Lean on that X. Anything you can do. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Congratulations on your memoir. I'm wondering how did you find it easier hard to write about you very interesting and tumultuous life? - Yeah, I found it. You know, I found it very easy to write about my life. The parts that were difficult to write about, obviously were the parts that like, involved other people and like shared experiences because when you're writing a memoir, so much of it is based on your memory. And, you know, you don't want to offend people with the way that you remember things. So, but you also like can't let that get in the way of like writing it the way that you remember that it happened. And so that was difficult. When it comes to my family, I was kind of like, you know, this is no matter what, there's going to be like holes poked in this by them or they're going to say this is like, this isn't how it happened or, you know, that I mean, they are just, they litigate everything. So, like every point, you cannot have a casual conversation with them about the weather without something being litigated. So, I was like, that's kind of like, who cares, you know? But when it came to writing about SNL, I was freaked out. I was like, I don't know how to write that scared the living crap out of me. I was like, and so I tried to, I'm like, let me just write about my favorite moments there and keep it to just that because you don't want, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's tricky. It was really tricky. - I look, I'm in the same boat. It's so funny too because I think when you write about your family, you have this long history of litigation with them. Like, you know how it's going to go. And ultimately, you've been prepared. And I imagine, to some degree, you've been through it by being a stand-up and talking about your family. So, this is, but there is that thing of like writing about a shared experience where everybody else involved is a writer and you know that if you get something wrong, eight of them will side-text. - Yes. - About how wrong you got it. - 100%. I would be, I was like sitting at the keyboard, like, trembling, writing about this. And so that part was, that was really difficult, you know? - I do think that's like the magic trick that Lawrence pulled is every time people write about him or even do a documentary about him. They're like, they ultimately land where you did, which is like, I'm just going to talk about the best parts. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know what, I'll just do the best parts. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Uh-huh, mm-hmm. - So your dad, your dad was from the DC area or grew up around there? - No, so my dad and my mom both are from Houston, Texas. - Got it, was that part of your upbringing? Did you go back there ever? - I went to Texas. I went to camp in Texas for a month every summer. Yeah. And it was like a Christian camp in Texas and we learned how to, we learned valuable life skills, like you know, like riding a horse and shooting a gun at like eight, so I did that, but like, I didn't really have other than that, like my connection to Texas was purely based on like legacy, like they wanted me to feel, you know, my grandfather like put like Texas soil under the, under the labor and delivery table just so that I was like born on Texas soil. - Oh wow. - Like they're like crazy about that. - Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say that's a full crazy person. - Yeah, it's really insane. And really crazy. And, but I don't have any connection really to that state. My mom and dad grew up there. My mom ended up moving to Connecticut in her teens and like was raised in Connecticut for the rest of her life. But they continued to talk about Texas as if like they both had lived their entire lives there, you know? - Mm-hmm, it's so funny. - Yeah, and they were actually like, right around the block from each other, my mom, my dad and my mom's brother, my uncle, were very close friends. And my mom and dad, you know, grew up like kind of running in the same circles, like same group of kids. And then when my uncle on my mom's side was getting married, he had an usher like fall out, like fall through, he couldn't make it. And he called my dad and my dad came to the wedding and that's when my mom and my dad reconnected. So, and then they ended up getting married. So it was like this kind of cool, you know, they were friends growing up and then didn't see each other for years and then reconnected, yeah. - That's nice. And were you, what were, when you were a kid, did you guys take, what were your family vacations like? Like where would you guys go? - So we would go to Chinkatig, which is, I don't even, I think it's in Maryland. It was like, it was known for like horses. There were like wild horses that lived in Chinkatig. - Is it in the island? - You know what? I don't know, I have no idea. - Okay, at this point, I would be surprised. You're like, I think it's imaginary. - Yeah, it actually could be fake. - Places of horses. - Yeah, it could be fake. No, it's like a thing they set up in my room. Like we would go, we would go to Chinkatig and we would like take these family vacations. It was like my parents and then their friends would bring their kids and like bias matching bathing suits for the weekend. And we would all like wear these matching bathing suits and look for these horses and play on the beach. That was, I remember that pretty specifically. And then we had this house called Watch Island. And it was in my family for like decades, generations. And we would go to Watch Island, which was in upstate New York. It was in the Thousand Islands. And so we would drive, I remember the drive feeling like it was four days long. It was probably like eight hours. But it was like, I remember being a kid and being like, this is crazy. You know, like, I'm calling the authorities, you know? And driving that distance and then getting on a little Boston Whaler boat. And my dad amptying a bunch of like groceries into this boat. I remember him just like cursing and putting groceries in a boat. And making a ton of noises and grunts and groans. And, and then we'd all climb in the boat. And we'd go across from the dock to the house. And we'd get off the boat and go up to that. It was one house on one island. And I think it's like, it's still there. I remember looking up how much it was going for a few years ago. Because I was like, what if I like bought that house back? But then I was like, oh, this is like completely uninsurable. I highly recommend anybody Google Watch Island, which I just did. Yeah. It's insane. It's crazy. So I mean, what a dream place to be as a child. Yeah, it was amazing. And yeah, that's, that's just moments, I would say, till the sea takes it back. Yes, 100%. Yeah. And we would, we would just run around that island for a whole summer while our parents like drank on the dock. you know, it was like, they would just, and then every once in a while, like somebody would, fall into the ocean and one of our blacked out parents would jump in and save our lives. There was always one life-saving attempt that happened per summer for somebody. It does look like if it was listed on a rental site, do you love drinking and a little bit of danger? Yeah. Then watch Island is the place for you. And if you're like a 90s parent, they were like, "We're all just going to do this where you sit in the back seat and we drive to church drunk and that's going to be what life is." It's such a small island. How often would you leave the island? Would you leave every day? No. We would never leave. We would never. It was like, "Where am I going?" It's 1.3 acres. We'd get on the boat and we'd take boat rides around just to like, there was like a restaurant. I can't remember the name of it, but we would take a boat ride to like, go to a restaurant to like, go out every once in a while. But for the most part, it was like, every day we just walked around this, what I can only assume is a haunted house and climbed around on these rocks and just had a great time. How many of you were there on a trip like that? So I think they sold the house shortly after the twins were born. So there was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of us that were, and then my mom and dad and then whoever, whatever friends they brought with them. And they're cute. Would you get to bring friends as well or it was like siblings are coming? I wasn't like old enough to really be like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to bring my friends along." Maybe the last summer that we spent there, I was like 12. So I wasn't like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to bring my friends on summer vacation." Age yet, like pre-teen. Did you remember like having an emotional response to the news that they were going to sell Watch Island? Totally. Totally. I remember being crazy. I mean, it looks like it's the sort of house where I wouldn't be surprised if everyone who stayed there wrote a one book about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was a really incredible place. And I just remember having some of the best memories there. I remember at one point. I was like a little bit of a chubby kid and my parents were like, "How do we bring this up with her? How do we get her to the most subtle way that they could think of was to be like, "What if we just made her swim around the island?" And so my mom was like, "Guess what? You and I are going to swim around the island today." And I was like, "I don't want to do that." She was like, "Well, we're doing it." And she's like, "Suit up." And so I get in the water and she sort of pitched it to me as like, "We're just, this is a bonding experience, you know?" But the kids pick up on, you know, so I was like, "I know what this is. I know this is, you're sending me to Fat Camp right now. Like, by myself, it booked with you." Right. And she, my poor mom, she's like swimming and I remember her just being like, "Be the bud." Like yelling like, "Be the bud." Like, over these waves, well, I'm like, you know, just choking on saltwater. And then I remember going to the attic where, because this was my great, great grandmother's house and finding like old, like wedding veils and old hanker chiffs and old, just old things and bringing them downstairs and being like, "We're going to play dress up in this." And it would be like covered in spiders or something, you know. Yeah. I think spider, a spider's dream is an old wedding veil. Yeah. Oh, that would be great. It makes them feel pretty. Perfect matter. Yeah, they do. Yeah. So when, "Be the bud," when did, when did you adopt bud as a, as a nickname? I know it's sort of your Tom Boy nickname, right? I didn't. They just sort of named me that. They were like, it was Rosebud and then I remember just being called bud from like a very young age. I don't, like, I don't remember Rosebud. I know Rosebud was like pre-memory and then by the time I was like conscious and could like form memories, I was being called bud. So my son calls me bro, which is very upsetting, but a parent calling their kid bud is even funnier to me. I know. I know. Just like a trucker's name. Yeah. It's especially when you, when you come to it naturally, which is like Rosebud is like very cute, but then when you like take the Roseoff, which is the Rosemary part and just end up with bud, like with no context, you're like, "Why they call their daughter bud?" Yeah. I know. I know. They seem very close with the other daughters and then that one seems like an old friend. I know. Especially. Yeah. Especially when you're like, you're at the White House and you're in like an Easter dress and you're looking like a little lady and then you hear your dad from across the lawn being like, "Bud!" Like, just like, "Okay." Did your parents have sort of Southern accents? My dad does. Yeah. My mom doesn't because of the, all the time spent on the East Coast, but my dad for sure has that like. Do you think your mother consciously tried to lose the accent or it just happened naturally? I don't know that she ever really had it, had one. Her parents weren't from Texas. Got it. You know, my dad's parents were from Texas. So there was, that accent was just in the family for, for so long. And now when I'm with them, there is this kind of, I don't know, it's this desire to like, maybe I'm just immature, but I can't, I can't not copy their accent when I'm around them. Like I've tried. And I just can't stop myself from being like, "So what time's dinner?" Like I can't stop myself from doing that. Do they take it as they're being mocked or do they just appreciate your falling back into it? I think that, I don't, I really can't tell, if they, I would assume that they appreciate it because if they did feel like they were being mocked, there would certainly be some sort of. They'd let you know. Yeah, they'd let me know. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, they'd lunge. How, uh, what was the dynamic on the eight-hour drive? Like what, what was the car, uh, how did you interact with your siblings, music, no music? It was always, there was always music, there was always one portion of the car ride that was like, you know, karaoke. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I remember, I remember certainly my mom playing the Meredith, what's her last name, I can't remember her last name, but that song, "Bitch," my mom, my mom got a real kick out of all of us yelling the lyrics to that song. Michelle Branch. Michelle Branch. Okay. I don't know. Meredith Brooks. Meredith Brooks. Okay, Meredith Brooks. Yeah. Okay, get it right. Or did I say, "Meg?" You did. You said me. You got it right. I just guessed, I just guessed a name of Sam. Yeah. Josh was like, I'd not only do I not think it's a Meredith. I mean, I guess someone else. He couldn't have been more wrong. But I remember being in the backseat and all of us like, really being like, now is our chance. We can yell this word and our parents are going to laugh about it. And so I remember that. I also remember portions of the car ride, where everyone asked every five minutes, when will we be there? There was always, you know, my dad or mom, threatening to pull the car over, somebody farting, inevitably somebody farting, and everyone turning on that person in a way that was like, you're no longer a part of this family. Yeah. But you, it is so funny, like, because the thing about is like, you can deny it for as long as you want. But like, once you admit it, you've just basically given everybody your fingerprints. Exactly. And like, everyone after that has that sort of bouquet to it. Yeah. After that, anyone can do it and blame it on you. Right. So it's like, never admit. Never admit it. Never admit it. Never admit it. Never admit it. Did you, were both of your parents disciplinarians or was one more so than the other? No. Definitely my dad. My dad was definitely the disciplinarian. It's very funny now to see my father because he's just like, it's almost like all of the testosterone has sort of drained from his body and he's like, he like collects orchids and has like a special room in his home for his cat and is like the gentlest, sweetest man. But like at the time, he was just a terrifying individual. And I remember my mom being like, I'm going to call your dad, being basically like calling the cops and I remember when my dad would, you would hear my dad's footsteps and you would just, you would just be like, I got to find a hole in the wall somewhere. Yeah. You know? That rings a bell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, they're very kind. we're hearing from a while away, just a little bit of time. a little bit of time to scatter. Are you surprised that your dad's chilling out over the years? - I'm very pleasantly surprised by it. Yeah, I mean, see my dad with his grandkids now is I will say there's a little bit of bitterness where I'm like, where was this guy? What the, where were you, you know? - Yeah, it skips a generation. - Yeah, it's like, what the, you know, what I'm like-- - I think it's even the bigger burn. - I've heard from friends of mine who's like, who's dad remarried and had like a second set of kids. - Yeah. - And so like, it's not even like grandkids. It's just like needed, needed like 15 year gap and then it's like, real cruel guy now. - Yeah, you're like brutal, this is brutal. - Yeah, I mean, my dad, luckily he did not have more kids. I think he was like, by the time he got remarried, he'd had five daughters and he was just like, there's no possible way you could ever convince me, you know? But he certainly was waiting on grandkids for a while. He was like, with five daughters, he just could not believe that by the time I turned 30, he was like, what's going on, you know? I remember one time he called me up and he was like, I guess in his mind, he was like, maybe it's the nickname. Maybe that's why she hasn't found somebody. And he was like, you know, you got to change your, he's like, you can't call yourself bud anymore, you know? And I was like, well, I don't, I call myself Rosebud and he's like, well, you're no Rosebud either, you know? (laughing) - He's like, we got to go back to the drawing board entirely. (laughing) What, how many grandkids does he have now? - He's got three. - Okay, right. - Got three, yeah. My sister has two kids and I have one. And my other sister, my other sister is just married, but is not planning on having kids. And then one of them is like more, more like me. She's like an artist and just kind of isn't, it's not like top of her list of things to do. - Got it. - Yeah. (laughing) - Hey, we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. - This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by Colo Guard, a non-invasive colon cancer screening test. No matter how young you look, Poshy, hmm. It's one of those things that's easy to put off because you think it'll be a hassle and life is so busy. - Yeah, and I think a lot of people assume they need to schedule a procedure, take time off work, or deal with all the prep that comes with a colonoscopy. - The process was honestly incredibly simple. I requested the test online. 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Are they still doing it? - They are still doing it. My wife's in equestrian and my wife would say, like, this is terrible for horses. I think it's like not a good thing that a lot of people are like, I don't know, I like watching it, but yeah, but I've definitely, like I've seen videos of it and I imagine as a kid, it would be thrilling, but if you can't see anything, you can't see anything. - I know, and it's also like, you've got to be a certain age of kid to appreciate that, you know what I mean? And I think I was just too young. I think I was like two or three at the time, you know? So I don't really remember it that well. I remember things like weirdly enough. Like, I remember concerts, I remember like, going to Paul McCartney as a kid. - Was that with your parents? - That was with my parents. Yeah. - That's very cool. - Yeah, it was very cool. - First concert. - Yeah, that's great. - Where was that? - I don't remember. I don't, all I remember is like the music and I remember being like, oh, this is, oh cool, we're like watching music. (laughs) - Yeah. - And for somebody, in my child's mind, I was like, I didn't know you could watch music, you know? - Right. - Yeah. - Did you, was your family, the kind of family that introduced you to the Beatles? Like when you were in a car, was that, like when you went to see Paul McCartney, where you like, I know all these songs. - I didn't know all the songs, but I remember my parents playing them on the way and being like, you're really gonna love this. This is, this is, your dad and I used to listen to this at blah, blah, blah, blah. They'd give me these whole stories about their connection to the music. And I think that's what made me so interested in it was like, oh, this is like kind of the story of my parents a little bit. So I was really into that aspect of it. - Our dad, we have a really interesting thing with our dad, which is he doesn't like the Beatles. - He doesn't? - Nope. It's a very funny thing when like over, or like early in your life, your dad like puts a flag in the ground that the Beatles are overrated. - Yeah. (laughing) - Which one? - I kind of kind of appreciate it, I can. I mean, I like the Beatles, I really do. But I kind of, I can appreciate that. You're good. - Well, I can appreciate it. I think in general, like I mean again, the Beatles are great. Let me just say, it hasn't been passed down. But there is that thing where there's any band where the people you know who like really like the Beatles, you're kind of like, all right. - Yeah. - Right. - We get it. (laughing) Also, it's like, oh, do you like the Beatles? - Yeah. - That's great. What a cool, did you have your parents? Did your parents ever, do they ever travel to see you do stand up? Do they ever come and see you? - No, I told them not to do that. - Got it. - So they've never come. Or did they ever sleep? I mean, you did it. You kind of started a little bit later, right? So there wasn't. - Yeah. little bit later and also like I hid it from them successfully for years where I would just hide it like a drug addiction where I was like just that's like a life that I have that nobody needs to know about and and I can tell them that I'm up to other things you know and then I couldn't hide it after a while because I'd gotten I booked this like documentary that followed comics that we're trying to get into the just for laughs comedy festival as like a new face and so when that when I booked that I was like okay so we got to have a conversation and I told them what I'd been up to for the last like four years and they were like what what like what are you talking about and I was like yeah I've just been doing this and I booked this thing and they were like oh my god because it was like like I moved to New York to be an actor and then decided that I what didn't want to do it anymore and was like I'll just be like a social worker or something and I'll do comedy while I figure out what I'm going to do with my life and then because it was fun and it was like I could do it without anybody giving me permission and so when I and my parents were aware that I was like sort of recalibrating and figuring out what I was going to do that was going to be really sensible and so when I called them and I was like hey I booked this documentary I'm going to go to this festival in Canada to be a stand up comic they were like what are you talking about you like I decided to make a giant left turn from sensible right yeah we're like this is so much worse than what we had imagined you can't believe what we've been telling our friends yeah and what how long did it take for them to kind of come around to it I would say I mean they came around pretty quickly but we realized that I had jokes they were like oh okay few you know it's like that feeling of like oh my god this is now we just have to watch her like embarrass herself for the rest of her life you know which they're not wrong but it was like at least she's in doing what she intended to do you know like yes she's being laughed at but she wants to be so right she's made this choice yeah yeah I just like when you say like once they realize you had jokes like in my mind I want to imagine that the very first call they were like do you have jokes no this work but please tell us you have jokes where are your jokes you have tags do you have runners what do you have yeah are there any how how good your closer yeah they they truly were like what could this possibly be because I think probably in their mind the worst of it would be just me on stage just like like watching an SNL audition where I'm like running around there's like moments of long silences where I'm gathering wigs and then you know to my parents that that would be a nightmare to them right so they were like okay at least she's talking the whole time and there's no like moments where she has to like change a costume to silence you know right right right that's terrifying to them yeah I'm also to me if I'm being honest I will say that when we used to and a Josh does not care for when this podcast viewers and SNL so be very brief yeah when people audition for SNL and oftentimes it was worth the freight like once you got through the moment where they put a wig on it was fantastic but I will say that moment of like being sitting and observing while someone quietly puts a wig on yeah is is real hard for me it's pretty abysmal it's pretty abysmal yeah and by the way I'm not saying it was it was often more than worth it but I did not know that yeah I mean it's quiet moments it's like when you over commit to a bit you know a real physical bit and it lands you on the ground and then you have to slowly get up to silence yes I just tried a new on the ground physical bit just this week and I had that you're exact you I didn't realize until you said it but I'm like oh right that was the worst part is like I thought I would get up during laughter yeah yeah yeah I feel like they heard my knee click on your show on your show you did it or two you just stand up this week and it's like this is gonna crush and then you're like on the ground and you're like maybe I'll just stay here yeah yeah maybe I'll act like I fell maybe I'll act like I'm hurt yeah that way at least a clap when I get up yeah sympathy I'll be like I think I can get back up maybe around a plus take your tinkerbell me up right yeah congratulations on your book thanks so much for talking to us this has been fantastic thank you guys for having me this has been awesome I might bud you when I see you in person I hope that's okay please do I might go with the bud I would love that yeah before we let you go Josh is going to hit you up with our speed round questions lightning all right here we go you can only pick one of these is your ideal vacation relaxing adventurous or educational I would say adventurous very good what is your favorite means of transportation train if you could take a vacation with any family alive or dead real or fictional other than your own family what family would you like to take a vacation with oh that's um okay can it be like a chosen family like I would really love to spend one day on Gilligan's island great oh that's perfectly perfect definitely yeah speaking of desert islands though if you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family who would it be my sister Jackie great how much shoulders is Jackie older younger Jackie's 10 years younger than me oh my god and so uh just because you mentioned how what was your at what point were you and Jackie close because that's a big gap we've always been close she's always been like she's always been um troubled you know what I mean they that's what my family would like categorize her as they're like well bless her heart Jackie's troubled you know and and I was the one who was troubled before Jackie came along so when she came along and I saw that that label was quickly being sort of switched switched to her I have I took the I took on this sort of protective like role in her life and and found that like she and I you know there are certain members of your family that you're like yeah we're friends because we're family but Jackie I'm like I would hang out with you whether we were related or not you know fantastic where is Jackie now geographically lives in Chicago okay great yeah do you see her fair enough do you feel like you're a lot I see her um she comes to she took my daughter to Disneyland with me this year just you know for kicks and if I need her to like she'll watch my kid on the road if I pay for her flight yeah he's an artist so I'm like if I just use miles to get her out there like and my kid is obsessed with her I mean it sounds like it what is like can you just if you can remember like what's the dynamic like with you and Jackie when you're like 15 and she's five um we were just like the naughty girls yeah we're just naughty girls you know yeah um and I remember like whatever was that she wasn't allowed to do I was like let's go do it right do you think looking back if you if you could give them like truth serum that your parents uh thought you were a bad influence or felt so grateful that there was someone who spoke Jackie no I think I was definitely a bad influence I think that um I you know by the time because when I was 27 Jackie and I like took these um golf carts out of my dad's uh and my dad's like club and flipped both the golf carts sober and and tried to tow those golf carts out of the water with my dad's my stepmothers BMW and because we were like if we could just tow them out then nobody's gonna find out about this right and I I could not I remember my dad being like did you relapse and I remember the funniest part where you actually you guys were so dumb that you won you're like please tell me you were drunk yeah please tell me you were drunk and I was like I really wish I could tell you that genuinely wish I could tell you that but you flipped them you flipped them into water we flipped them into water um and then when the first one went in the one behind did not have time to think we went in at the same time so we were like you're racing up this hill and we came all over the hill and we were like oh look there's a there's a river here and we just we were just in the river you know yeah and I'm guessing the towing out didn't didn't do what wasn't really the play well once we landed in the river Jackie was like you don't understand I can't do this Jackie had been kicked out of three schools in one year and she was like I she's like I flipped a golf cart this summer and there was a girl who had to go to the hospital and I was like okay so we can't like tell dad about this we got to just like solve this and I'm 27 so I'm an adult I can do this you know I can handle this and I have this brilliant idea that we could tow them out with this like SUV and but I was like Jackie you sit in the front and drive forward Well, I like rig it and so I'm sitting back and Jackie is so nervous that she hits reverse and just backs up into both golf carts. Oh my god. And The fact that that didn't end up you didn't end up with a three cars in the rivers actually at triumph. Yeah, I mean it was like we I remember being like well, now we have to tell we've got to tell, you know and I remember being like and look I'll just take them. I'll take it, you know, I was like I'll take this one on the chin and I'm like I don't live with him So you know, I'll deal with it and To this day, I don't know that he knows that Jackie was involved at all with that Well, hopefully he won't listen to this. I mean it feels like he should try to be able to piece it together based on the second cart Who was your story like I drove one in and then I drove a second one in open an argument first one Yeah, the towing aspect I was like I'll I'll take that, you know, God that's really good I love Jackie being like I can't go to a fourth school She's troubled she's troubled she's troubled. Hi, I'm Jackie. I'm troubled if you're wondering why you're here If you're wondering why I'm joining you in February Yeah, she's like I was kicked out of my school. I had I was trying to steal from a vending machine in my arm got stuck So I was kicked out All right, continuing on what is your dream destination for a family vacation? Um, I would really like to go to Greece Okay, right now And you are from Alexandria, Virginia. If you had to get more families to come visit Alexandria. What would you say to them? You know come visit Alexandria because there's you'll meet people that are just exactly like you like I yeah, there's come to Alexandria. It could be anywhere That's great great. Yeah, great. Yeah, I mean you can almost hear the people You could be anything. Yeah, I dare you can be anywhere. Yeah, yeah And then Seth has our final questions Rosebud, have you been at the Grand Canyon? I have I was a worth it. Uh, yeah Great. That's the kind of answers. We're you're never gonna hear more honest answer That's my new answer Yeah, posh. I've long said it's kind of not worth it, but that's really the truth It's like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember standing there being like I guess I'm not really a views girl. Yeah Yeah, I think that's right. I think if you're not view if you're not views forward. Yeah. That's not views forward Not really a views gal, I guess No The math that I'm just like you know what I like sometimes like you know my whatever my MacBook picture is. I'm like oh, that's nice Yeah Right, you know, it's like one thing to say when you've gone on a really long hike with somebody that they're very excited to show you the top And then you press the top with them and you go I'm not really a views guy. I guess Yeah, I'm not in I'm not into the views. I don't mind like I don't mind trudging. I should say like I prefer a view that at least you get a like a workout in. Yeah Yeah, so me too. I like it Thank you so much for your honesty about one of our great national treasures Absolutely. It's the least I can do Uh, thanks so much for joining us, Resbud. Thank you guys. Nice to meet you too Have a great rest of your day. All right you too. Bye. Thank you Yes There was no school today They call it camp and somehow everything's okay She goes by Rosebud, but there may come a day when she goes by Rose Mary where a cape and rocker came She's from the DMV And now sees what grandparents are supposed to be Because her grandfather was the secretary of state to the country he was great But to her he was like An emotional fortnight Christian camp down in Houston. Will the horse did some shooting when her cousins got their names Most of them were James Texas soil under the table for all things that were naval. Granddad wouldn't have it any other way Oh Eight hours it felt like four days Upstate your faith would drive them Austin way to the cruisers have to watch And then run around the whole summer you fall in that's a bummer climbing all over the rocks There is drinking down the dock called that she was to chubby mama called I'd be the but she had to swim around the whole damn thing Don't cut race with her sister double straight in the river both of them were doused Thought she could throw them out to protect Jackie's name Close the set I'll take the blame by now to this I'm afraid that the stories are out Oh