Rooted in Racism: America’s War with Itself

From fire pitfall outs to fairy tales of love, another unforgettable series in the villa is coming to an end, which means it's time for one final debrief. The girl is delivered nothing but iconic energy. We saw standout pieces that have graced our screens before, the breathless, red latex moment, Millie's unforgettable rat and bow address, and the sensational mercy dress that had the whole villa talking. Our gorgeous girlies absolutely understood the assignment. And let's talk about the boys, because they were on fire this season. Y2K was heavily revived with Karen and Tommy both rocking the vintage Oakland Athletics bomber jacket, proof that Love Island and pre-loved AVAs jackets go together real good. From first impressions to final moment, what a series this was. Pre-loved to tell its own love story this winter. Find your perfect fit on eBay, proud sponsors of Love Island All Stars. Today's episode of Love Island the Morning After will feature some strong language. We're sorry. If Scott says logical, "We're more worried." "We're going to have to start taking a shot." "Shots, everything." "Everybody?" "I'm so sorry." "He's a tie-backing." "Yeah." "And it's not sexy." Good morning and thank you for joining us for another episode of Love Island the Morning After. It was anything but a happy half day for our islanders, but we're here to talk all about it. I'm Amy Hartz, and I'm Inja Perlac, and with us to give us their thoughts and opinions on Rosnites Greenay, is the wonderful Allian G. Yay! Good morning, Kelly. Good morning. How'd you find that last night? It was very deep. It was very stressful. Yeah, honest. I found the Q&A. It didn't make for a happy dinner party. No, no one could finish their steak because the bad vibes were really not what you wanted in the party. Yeah, yeah. Also, I thought the mood was really low. Everyone was just sort of like, "Oh, Tommy went right into his shell when he got the answer to his question." Yeah. I'm like, "Everyone's just sat there, but like this. I'm like, "Oh, this is bad. This is not giving last supper." Yeah, it's not very nice. It's not nice. Well, let's talk about the questions. So what would you ask? Because I am in the secure little party. I'm like, ignorance is best. I would rather not know. I mean, you guys, when we've been here this week, you know that I'm like scared to open DMs. I'm scared to listen to voice texts from people just in case they're mean to me. And then it's like, "Would you like to come for a take-away on Saturday?" I would struggle. Like, even art and setting, like, did you like the red dress that I wore two weeks ago? I would then be, if you're gonna say, "No, I'd be really upset." Yeah. So I'd probably have to just ask, like, "Do you like watching love Island?" 100% yes. Zero to no. Is this your favourite series there's over the end? Yeah. I don't know what I would ask. I feel like I'd probably go down the same route as many. And be like, "Just my partner liked me as much as I like them vice versa." Because really untrurally, like, again, all the outside noise is just going to make me spiral. This is why I think I would use it to get information that I wouldn't have. So I would ask something like, "Do we speak about each other the same way around the villa?" Because if the answer is no, then I know my feelings are stronger than it is. But also, you've still got five, six days until you can go back and find out how they've spoken about you around the villa. So you've got five, six days of flying the wake at night. But they're gonna be like, "You're awake and I anyway." I think this Indra and Sean went the right way. Asked him such a ridiculous question. Are we getting it married? Because they've been together for like three weeks. If the answer is no, you're like, "Well, who knows? Like, do you think we'd have cute babies?" That's so funny to ask a question that the answer doesn't matter. Yeah. Because as Lucinda said, the audience is not a universal fictional dictionary. So they're not Bible, basically. It's not gospel. So for your couple question, if you're really into each other, you want to keep that light. Because when you get out, you can watch. It's all on tape. So what do you really need to know from that? I need to know. I need to know. When you ask questions like Millie's, it's like, you're trying to like validate something inside you. And it's like, "I'm not trying to validate anything. I'm just trying to get information so that I can decide for myself." I mean, like, Millie's question for me, that would give me so much anxiety. I could not deal with that. I feel like it's still validation, though. Maybe her wanting to ask that question means that she's feeling that anyway. She's feeling a bit like, "I just, you always know what you're doing." You know what I mean? Yeah. But you know, I think Millie is just, I think she's feeling, I wouldn't say insecure, but I think she knows how much she likes that. Yeah. And she just wants to know she's doing too much. She feels like, "I feel like, yeah, I feel like even when Jessie came in, she went a bit in her shell." She's like, "Oh, but we're both blonde." I do see why I like her. I think, again, she's doing a bit of a scott and overthink in the situation. And like, Chloe said, literally, her best friend, you're big males, believe in your own source. Yeah. It's like, you're great. You're people's princess. I do have sympathy for her, though, because when you're in that situation and you just feel that way, there's nothing really that they can do either to make you feel bad. Like, he could say, like, all the things in the world. It's just like a feeling. It's a feeling. Yeah. I'm 100%. If you guys were in the villa, what would you want to know about the other couples? This is really tricky. And I didn't expect it to be so on-scott and Leanne. Yeah. Like, I feel like maybe we all knew everything we needed to know and there were a few questions in there that people kind of couched us like, "This is for you, Leanne. This is to make you feel better." And I think, as you said, they could have swung either way and it's not going to make her feel better. Leanne said, "Did you think I'm disabled?" It's giving, dishevel. It's giving dishevels. The issue is with Whitney. No defamation to Whitney, but I don't think that's. I'm going to defame her now. I do think that is the question that you asked with your best friends' intentions. I just don't. Because if that went the other way, you know what I'm saying? The wording was a bit awesome. And Leanne picked up on the like. Yeah, the word "choose" when it's quite obvious who's got his chosen. Yeah. And also, it's like, if you're looking at your friend, do you think that they need clarity from anyone other than like you? Themself. No. All you, yeah. Do you think if you asked to really cop out questions, they obviously had to text them to the love island gods? Yeah. Yeah. I think if you ask a really cop out question, it just bounces back and it's like, "Sorry, this message could not be delivered. Try again." "Make it mess." Yeah. We want message. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I'm probably being. Do you think Sean and Lucy need to look good together in photos? Not in the front grip. I wonder what would you ask for real about someone else? Yeah. I'm trying to think about my time in I was in there. Like, what would I have wanted to know? Oh, I would probably ask like, which couples are pretending to be my friends. Good. Yeah. That's what I. But it's yes or no. This is another problem. So I would probably. I don't really have any drama of anyone in there, but if there was someone that maybe had a bit of beef with, I would probably ask, "Is so-and-so actually my friend?" Good. That's a good question. Because you never know who's talking behind your back or whatever it is in there, because. We see one slide, you guys see the rest? Yeah. True. You're right, you ain't. Again, I. I'm not brave. I don't have a confrontation. No, and I feel like, obviously, everyone knows that the questions come from you. You've got to sit round that table. And say them with your chest. You know, when people put question boxes and Instagram, and they ask me anything anonymously, "I'm not, why are you doing this to yourself?" It's horrible. Like, horrible. So yeah, I'd probably just do something along the lines of like, "Are these two like a match made in heaven?" That's what I really liked. That's really nice. Or like, do you think, "Maybe you could do something where you pick like the couple that you think is most likely to win?" And you could just be like, "Do you think that they're in for a chance of winning?" Because then it's kind of a nice call. Just nice call. That's sorry. I was. I was out. Yeah. I would do something savage. Something like gameplay. That like. It's called gameplay. Yeah. Or your question was a good one, so that like, "Who is this person a really true friend to me?" Or is this couple who I believe them to be. Or something like a. Like, relating to me. Because I think it gets better to relate to yourself. You have to relate to yourself. Well, it's not about you. Yeah. And then it's just like, "Well, why are you like. Like Whitney's question, like, is there really nothing to do with you?" I would be like, "And like, with Jessi and Tommy, you could be like, if they'd got together earlier, do you think they would have progressed more?" That's a good one. That's good. That's good. We're talking of Jessi and Tommy. They did come out like, the least good in the whole of the debacle. Yeah. She was crying at one point. And she was just like, "I'm just going to say on genuine. Ingenuine." Ingenuine. Ingenuine. Ingenuine. That was a lot of words that. Do you think it was deserved? What do you think it was just some hard questions? I think deserved deserved, like, a strong word. Yeah. But I think it was pretty obvious because Jessi is a new bombshell. I feel like, even if she didn't land herself in that drama, that would have probably been the outcome anyway, because it's like, "Well, who else are you actually going to pay?" It's maybe it's a bit of a cop out, but it's a bit obvious. And I think her landing herself in the drama these past few days hasn't helped. You know, we've not really seen her spend much time. A great. Talking about how much she likes Tommy. It's just been. You're involving yourself in other people's drama. So what are you intending to do? And we also then did see Tommy kind of having little slithers of doubt about whether the pace is too slow and he's not feeling that spark. So then I think that probably just was like a pile on for him. Of like, "Oh, also her intentions aren't good and they're coming across pure." Maybe across pure. Exactly. And maybe I'm just a ride to the final. And I'm not feeling that spark right now. It's really hard when like, you're trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt. And like being like, "Oh yeah, it's just slow." And like, "Oh, do you know what I mean?" And the kind of like, making excuses as to why it's playing out. And then when you get something out of that, you're like, "Away." Maybe he feels a bit embarrassed. Saying about Jesse using Tommy to make it to the final is quite a bold statement. When there's still so many people there, it's not like they're in the final five, but there's a real chance. Like after everything with her dad and stuff. And you think like, if she really wanted to make it to the final, she could do a lot more. Oh, she could put a shift in. Yeah. Like she could be like, right and weaving my boyfriend in T-Line. Yeah. Like making breakfast and stuff. She could be snogging him better. Yeah. Like, I don't really see that. I'm not seeing money lips there. No. You could be really over time on the lip sync. Yeah. It's something people like week one are like, "Should we have a bath together?" That's really romantic. That is like trying to make it to the final. But I don't think what she's done is she had to pick someone. Yeah. Potentially meant for the easy option. But who was her other, O-Zac was her other option. I mean, Anzac did say, look, our conversations were really friendly. So hopefully that gave Tommy a little bit of reassurance. But I mean, it's been going on along well now. Tommy has been unsure about Jessie for a while. So I feel like this is kind of like, you know, well, it's like maybe he had a gut feeling and now this is like, you know, the coffin. Yeah. And he did look really like introspective then. And you know, when Whitney was telling him, like, you discussed that in prize end, it's like, well, you know, I'm just answering my questions. I feel like it's like bubbling out of him that he feels like he should listen to the public. I mean, who wouldn't? 83%. It's high. It's high. When you think most of those answers were kind of like 40, 50, 50, 50. As I said, it's in the said, I mean, if you want to go with majority, that is normally how percentage vote works. Thank you. Listen to that. She wants to ignore majority. Yeah. She's like majority, smart. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like everyone's been on such a journey in there. And Tommy has been on a bit of a journey in that, like, you know, with sort of the friendships, like, like befriending Sean, then Sean, do the dirty on him. And then, like, not finding a connection and stuff. And I feel like we all just wanted Tommy to have a happy ending. It doesn't look like that's going to happen. Oh, my God. So I actually love him. And it's like, he's come so far, like, he's got right through to the last week. And it's like, it might not end on a high. And I just, that's really sad. And I think that's probably why he's taking it quite hard as well. Yeah, probably. I think it's like, it's a lot. Do you know what I mean? He's been going through this for a few weeks now, you know? And I think when Jesse came in for him, it was like, oh, someone knew, like, let's do this. And then to not have a spot, it's quite a sight. To not have a spot and then hit 83% of the public think she's literally just using it. Yeah. Yeah, that's going to sit heavy on his shoulders, I think. And he's a thing card. And it's not bless him. Bless him. No, no. He wants someone for him. Yeah. Oh, there will be someone waiting for Tommy. I'm not worried about him. Oh, when he opens his de-edges, there'll be people there for him. He'll be fine. Yeah, yeah. Now the most talked about people in the game was Scott and Leanne. Even Tommy said, if I'd known that everyone was going to ask about you, I wouldn't have done. I wouldn't have asked that. That's not what I would think everyone would. Because it was a bit of a barrage. Was it? What was it? What was your highlight? I mean, I was the barrage. That's the barrage. To be honest, look, I understand. But one thing for me, I just can't read understand why everyone is so fixated on the fact that Scott and Leanne aren't-- Really? I think I can understand that. I understand that Scott has been making a thing. But if we look around, no one is boyfriend of girlfriend apart from Sean and Lucinda. You know, got Sammy and Karen, who are very locked in. But no one has spoken about them. No one is like, oh, you guys boyfriend of girlfriend, why have not closed it off? I just think-- I think it's getting a little-- Can I tell you what? I think it's because Scott has literally not talked about anything. He's made it the last two days. Yeah. And now it's just become almost bigger than him. I totally agree. I reckon they could have honestly swept that whole thing under the rug, but he just had to get-- Talking about it. And also, I think because Leanne had told the girls that she would like to be-- Yeah. --like some close off committed exclusive, whatever it is. If she wanted a gesture, they obviously all told their partners as well. So everyone knows that Leanne really wants it. So the Onus is on Scott. Like, why are you not doing this? Because we're like, sitting in the past, like, girls asking boys to go exclusive, softly. But she knows that he's not up for that. She can't even ask him. Yeah. So the Onus is on him to do it. And I think also they're probably quite surprised because he has come in, been very particular with things he said and situations he set up. And they all call him producer Scott. So the fact that he hasn't, as we said yesterday, taken producer Scott right to the end and hit those markers of, and then we need to go exclusive. And then we need to become boyfriend and girlfriend. Then we need to get engaged at the final, actually. It's one. Well, I guess maybe that is maybe to say that-- maybe he actually isn't producer Scott, because he's not doing everything that we did. True. I guess if he did actually do all these things, ask me on our, albeit exclusive, that's the same question we'd throw it around like, oh, you'll be true. You'll be true. Because you want to win and blow blah blah blah. So I feel like in that video, it kind of seems like they just can't win at the moment. Yeah, true. I think the main thing that we see, like, across all of the series is when it's a couple that don't feel on the same page. That's when everyone looks at them. And I think with like, Sami and Kiran, or like, they're so on the same page. Yeah. You're saying during short-- No arguments. No arguments. They're just speaking the same language. And with Scott and Leanne, I think we feel it. And everyone in there feels that she probably is ready for a bit more. And as Carrington said yesterday, it's not sexy. It's not sexy. Like, if Scott says logical, one more time, we're going to have to start taking a shot. Think about everything. Every time. And he's once all of this is finished, he can become like a project manager. Please facilitate her. I'm so sorry. He's a tie-backing. Yeah. And it's not sexy right now. He either needs to get on the same page as her, dive in, or he needs to articulate it in a way that she understands. Because I don't know how you speak on the phone. It's not a hit. This is what I mean. This is what I mean. This is what I mean. What does that mean? Hey, all right. Hello. She's got-- We've got phones in there. Call me. I'll go out and say-- Do you know what people use to say, like, wrecking the day when people use to say their phone number when they ask the phone? Maybe he's worried she's going to do that. Why do you-- It's just kind of giving, though, like, it's all just excuses. It is. It is. It is the truth that you just don't like her enough. Because that is the truth. That is different. Don't make up. You're not an accountant, Scott. You're not an astronaut. It's not that deep. There's nothing that logical about any of this. It just sounds a little bit like you're not sure. So just say-- I'm not sure. Say me. It's actually got nothing to do with the way that you answer the phone. Yeah. Of course. I don't know why I said that because I sound like an idiot. He should say, I actually wasn't prepared to find love coming in. And I did just kind of come in to come in and to have fun. So this is a shock. I really like you. But I just want to check that I'm there when we're outside of it. I think that's perfect. Fair. Yeah. So I will stop asking. Yeah. I think, Scott, I think this is a thing. He worries about things that are not important right now. He's overthinking. We've not left the villa yet. Why are we thinking about phones? Why are we thinking about phones for all? When I left the villa, I honestly-- I take you for a walk. I was all over waiting a minute. We've been speaking for about two weeks. And I don't have your phone, though. Like literally, you know, you don't think about this. Nice. Well, there is a talk with the town on Scott and Leanne's question. Everyone was talking about their couples. It was already deep. They decided to kind of spin it around and make it a bit light height, they said. It was kind of bringing up old stuff. And the question was, do you think that Scott is going to be in Bell's DMs when we get out here? Even you just say that now repeating it, I'm so uncomfortable. I think I need to look in a little bit in a fictional dictionary to look up light-hearted, because clearly, I think the light-hearted is something very different to that. Yeah. And Bell saying, basically, you've asked that to make me look stupid. Do you think it is? I mean, it was embarrassing for Bell. I was absolutely. We have got a representative here, protein, Bell. Thank you. I just want to say, I agree that it was embarrassing. And I think, why have you. There is no good answer to that question. If it's yes, obviously, that's so bad for your relationship. But if it's no, that is deeply embarrassing for Bell. And also, I know I might get some people that disagree with me, but I think she handled it really well. She actually, in that instance, did not kick off. She was like, you have just asked that to be in that room. She did, didn't she? She kicked off a little bit. There was light-hearted. No, she wasn't. It might not have been a horror film. So, there was a shadow. There was a printing. There was a yellow weather warning. Listen, you can go outdoors by taking a movie. That's what I would say. I wouldn't say it was like when she kicked off when. But that's not what I would have been on the board for. Yes, that would have been overripped. But fair, why have you asked that? That is so deeply jarring. To be honest, it feels really disrespectful, because what happened to the vote went, yes. Exactly. There's no good answer. I think that's too much of a dice to throw. Yeah, a very early, 100%. And I think Scott is quite strong in his opinions, and I feel like Wudley Ann have actually wanted to ask that question. I think the same thing. If I was Liana, I'd be like, there was just no fucking way we're going to upset that. I think it's. I think, you know, I then day, Bell made the statement. The statement was embarrassing in itself. And I feel like they squashed it, it was done and dusted. There was no need to bring it up. And I think also, don't ask questions, like if you don't want to know the answer. Yeah. Because like you said, it wasn't yes. What are we all going to do? Yeah. I think it's also quite insensitive towards the Ann's feelings. And honestly, quite embarrassing for you. Like, if I was the Ann, and then I'm watching my guy go back and forth with this girl that he's decided not to be with again, I think it's all really embarrassing. And I think no one's thinking about how Leanne feels. Agreed. And it's just sort of like, Scott and Bell having another kick off in Leanne is right there. Yeah. It's really unfortunate. My main feelings are, like, I feel really sorry for Leanne. Yeah. Because like, they did, like, get annihilated. Almost every single question was about them. And it's just like so nasty to sit there and have everyone talk about your relationship. And you also know, like, this isn't great. Yeah. Like, I know that there are problems here. And now everyone's shining a line. Yeah. And now as well, Scott can probably realize that Leanne isn't the most confrontational person. I wish she said more. Yeah. But it's just not her character. She let's not go. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I feel like to, you know, art such a question, you know, Bell is going to kick off. It's like, this just isn't fair on Leanne, you know? Let it go or something else. I ain't got anything to do. Yeah. I don't want to see anything like that. I do think Scott's mind. I don't think he's wrong when he says his name. mind works in a particular way and I don't know. Maybe it was to embarrass Bell, but I think it was to embarrass Bell to vindicate himself to prove to Leanne. Yeah. That. Sorry. I'm just going to hear it. Yeah. But that was just in the like the crime board with the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I was talking about? That's right. Yeah. So I think like in a round about way, he did that for Leanne. He just got it so wrong. Yeah. And how many times have we sat here and been like, Scott got that wrong. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is like he did say, look, you know, Bell made that statement, you know, to embarrass the Anne the first place. Which you know, it could be true. It could be not. Yeah. But it's like, you did your part for Leanne where you said to Bell, that's never going to happen. 100%. You know, it's not going to work on the outside. I want Leanne. There's no need to bring it around the table. Let it be done. Let it be done. Let bygones be bygones. Take the moral. Because if that was me, I'm going to think of it. When they go, we go, hi. We go, hi, man. Thank you, Michelle Obama. We were also visited by an old friend. I think I'm back up again. Sammy bless her. She says she's let it go. But she's keeping her awake at night. But I would be still annoyed. Me too. And also like if people are saying, like, oh, just you know, just move on from it now. You're like, right, I need to ask someone else. Yeah. The public. So it is hard with the pie because you're the only one that felt it on your face. But we got on up close short. And she knows that. She knows we got a zoomed in link. She knows that we saw the velocity and who said, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. But there was strength behind that arm. We heard the sound. I remember the sound. It was hard. Sammy. The problem with Sammy asking that question is how long ago it was. Yeah. Like, you know, it was. Yeah. It was about six years ago. Exactly. So that was the problem. But actually asking if that challenge would have come earlier, I'd have been like, yeah, you know, get your kind of like validation from the public fine. Lucinda was having none of that though. She was honestly like, if we're going by majority, well, yeah, that is how it works. Yeah. Control-out delete guys. Just control-out delete the pie. Sammy and get over it. What? Open the task manager. What's the task manager got to do with the pie? I'm really confused. Sammy needs to get it off her chest. I mean, to she expect anything more from Lucinda was she wasn't going to answer the question. True. She's not going to answer it now. This is my other thing. I'm like, babe, is there a point? Yeah. You know that what like, again, there's no good help. But I mean, like Sammy said, it was for herself. Yeah. And the public did vote in her favour. Yeah. So good for her to know. And I'm sure she can speak well tonight knowing that, you know, what I did get fired and everyone saw. Yeah. That's enough. Yeah. Imagine everyone said no. And then he said, I would have sent her insane. No, no, she would not have been well if that happened. No, no, no, she'd have gone and found her part. No, I can't. She'd have been like, oh, I must, I didn't ask that question. Someone must have taken my phone. Oh my god. So we are so nervous. Just let it go, Karen. Weeks are going now. And that's all we have for today. And the final is getting close to the. I think. Ali and G, will you join us again tomorrow? Yes, please. And don't forget, you can join India live before the final on Monday on TikTok and Instagram. I will be tuning in from home. I've got a hard weight. And we'll see you first things tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Love Island the Morning After is produced by Lifted Entertainment.