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Roommate Horror Stories, Nightmare Landlords, & Buying My First House

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Roommate Horror Stories, Nightmare Landlords, & Buying My First House

The hosts share a reflective and heartfelt account of their recent trip to Italy, blending excitement and personal vulnerability. The journey began with a plan around a Formula One race, which turned into a powerful experience due to the intense, crowded atmosphere of the race day, including the dramatic storming of the track and the emotional joy of their son, Caleb. Despite initial disappointments—like poor food in Lake Como and a grueling 20-minute hike—the trip overall was transformative. A key cultural insight was how Italians eat without phones, fostering deep social connection. The hosts also open up about leaving their newborn child behind, confronting feelings of guilt and anxiety, but ultimately finding peace through the act of creating a will and reconnecting with their family. They reflect on their evolving life journey—from difficult college roommates and low-cost rentals to a meaningful trip that deepened their bond. A personal highlight was purchasing a luxurious leather bag in Milan, which they now cherish as a symbol of their shared adventure. The trip also prompted deeper conversations about financial habits, independence, and family. They acknowledge their past struggles with homelessness and the emotional weight of isolation, reinforcing the importance of community and presence. The episode ends on a warm, hopeful note, celebrating both the beauty of travel and the quiet strength of family life.

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- Matt told me what we owe, like with our mortgage, and I'm like, how would walk around and stand we own a house? - No, literally. - This is the bank's house. - Our neighbor wasn't new to us. He would always change his clothes but the blinds fully opened at night with the lights on. He almost saw me, they could too. One time, Chuck wanted a great day. (laughing) - A lot of things happened while we lived in this house. Maybe just not the best landlord ever. - Probably a great person. - I'm so scared. (laughing) - I think she's kind of a conwoman. I know. (upbeat music) - Welcome back to Always Here. We're your host, Abby Howard. - Happy Howard. - Did it. (laughing) - Hey, girl. - We are, we're loopy. - We're back. - It's good. We're gonna be a little weird this week. - We are gonna be a little weird. Abby has a new born infant and I am. - She's still mentally and Italy. - I'm just, was I out of town? - I don't know. (laughing) - And you can officially stay. - I feel like it's a weird day to record. - Why are we recording today? - You weren't here. - Oh, Italy. - Italy, late. - Oh, sorry. - You never showed up. (laughing) - Perfect. (laughing) - I'm glad to be here. (laughing) - Why are we recording? - Why are we here? (laughing) - I thought we had enough. - Well, I remember I asked you, do you want to record before? - Oh, like on Monday, Tuesday. - And I said no. - Yeah, you said you wanted to record today. I'm sorry about that, everybody. - We're here. - Okay, we're here. - I'm still here on my trip. - Yeah, do it. - Let me tell ya. We're gonna begin. - I was so happy for you. - Thanks. - I thought about you a lot, actually. - Really? - You should text me. - I was like, I'm so happy that she, no, I didn't want to bug you. - Your vacation. - Your vacation. - I know, but I still have my phone. But I was like, look at her. - That's sweet. - Doing some fun was, you're getting a little spendy. It was spending. - I love it. - I love it. - It was, it just felt like, hey, our 20s, I talked about a lot. Our 20s were, you know, our struggle years. They were fun. They were formative. We had children. We had potential bankruptcies. (laughs) We had launches, failures. And, you know, the last year and a half has been really up. Praise the Lord. So I just feel like this was a year where, hey, we both turned 30. Seven years married. We've had so much change in the last seven years. And we've gone on some trips, the two of us, but they've all been pretty much work related. So, you know, it's just kind of a different vibe when your husband has to go to a conference. It's just actually not. - It's actually not a good vibe. - You're eating watery cheese. - Yeah, literally water cheese is horrible. - We went to the DR last year for Kilb's work conference. And I've never had, I mean, no slander to the DR, just slander to this resort. - It was the most horrid food. - I didn't plan to do the resort 'cause we're not gonna say that. - We're not gonna say that name, but you can go back and find two gram and not stay there. We can't put her back in there. Who would just be just not edible food? So anyway, anyway, this love's better. - I love that you're spending, though, because I listen to the ball in Caitlin episode, which by the way, I love it so much. I love the Addy and Abby. I was like, I just wish I could listen this every week 'cause if I'm not, I'm not listening. - Oh. - I lived it. Like, I don't need to hear me talk. - I'm a voice. I lived it. - That person don't wanna hear it. (laughing) - But, you're advised for people before they got married. I was like, get some money. (laughing) I was like, I didn't expect that one. (laughing) From the girl that's like, hey, don't eat out. Don't have just subscriptions. I'm like, spend your money. Spend your money before your husband tells you he can't. (laughing) - Take that advice with a grain of salt. - Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah. - I was like, taking notes. I was like, how? - Interesting. - I know, but they came up on the trip with like, this is why we didn't spend. So we could enjoy a trip to the bottom of the supporting in that way too. - It was. - And it was just true. Like, we could go on this trip and spend money and not feel the pressure or the stress or the guilt about spending money. Like, it just truly felt like such a free. - That is what Dave made me say. - We felt like no one else. You can live like no one else. - Yeah, and I feel like we kind of experienced at this past week. - Which just felt like such a gift. - So happy for you guys. - Such a blessing. So Matt and I also talked about you guys a lot. Like, we're having so much fun. - That's sweet. - We missed everything. - I think you're all your stories. - I didn't see your content. That was what I want to know. - Yeah, Caleb's whole life. - Caleb was like, you missed her Instagram. - What? - He was buzzing in the moment. I was like, travel Caleb. - Travel Caleb is a whole different beast. And I do have a video coming out about how I will miss that man. - He becomes so dad like. - He was taking pictures of the stupid stuff. (laughing) - You know when you go with these trips and people are like taking pictures of birds and just random things. That was Caleb like zooming in. - I love it. - Taking them as random trips. - Travel Caleb. - Yeah, I'll just get looking at him and just laughing. - That's like I love you. - That's fun. - Oh wait, I didn't see your content. - Okay, so we did seven days in Italy. I mean, we had been to Italy before for a honeymoon. We did a couple different spots in Europe and we did stop in Amalfi. And so when we were thinking about this trip, I was like, maybe we go to Greece. Who we go, whatever. And I sold Caleb on Italy because there was a Formula One race in this town. So that, ladies, if you have a man that maybe is super little hesitant about booking trips, whatever, just tell them their hobby is there. And you'll get them on board real quick. - I love that, I love that. - Yeah, yeah. - It was a little manipulative. But I think Caleb needed the push. It was good. - Yeah, he was like, this was the best decision ever. - So we knew we wanted to go into Milan because that's how we could get to the Formula One race. We kind of planned our trip around that. So the first couple of days we went up to Lake Como and there are three cities there. We did three days and then we did the Formula One race and then we did a couple of days in Milan. So it was just kind of the perfect, both of like a little bit of the best of both worlds. We had the lake in the mountains and then we had the city and the race. It was just a really good mix of activities. I will say, I have so many thoughts on this type of, on this part of Italy. The food in Lake Como was a little disappointing. - Mm. - Which you guys know, the food in Italy is insane everywhere. It's just unbelievable. It's the best of the best. And so I think that kind of put a little bit of a, not that we were like dampered, but a little disappointing on those first couple days 'cause you just have such high expectations. And that's such a big part of your trip. You know, you go down and you're like, what are we gonna do for breakfast? We're gonna stop at the little restaurants long the way and get a gelato or whatever and split this in that. And just the whole day you're eating. And so when every bite is a little underwhelming, you're like, what's going on here? So the point where kills are rationalizing is like, maybe when we were here after college, we just had children taste buds and like everything, you know, we're matured, our palettes are matured. And I was like, I just think they don't use salt in this region. - Mm. - Yes, yes, yes. But we had some really good food in Bellagio, which is, there's like three main cities in Lake Como. We stayed in one, a town called Verena, which was so gorgeous. Everything in Como is so picturesque, so, I mean, it doesn't even make sense what you're looking at. You can't even comprehend the beauty. So that was so fun to look at. Everything's so fun to walk through. It's really easy to get around by the ferry. So the town that we were in for one of the food was not very good, but the other towns we went to were great. So there was hope. We were like, okay, it's just maybe this little city. Time maybe doesn't have the best of the best. But overall, it was great. We did have a, our Airbnb. Did you see any of this? - No. - Okay, our Airbnb was, okay, I was like trying to find places that didn't break the bank, you know? So I'm like, okay, looking at hotels versus air babies. And I find this Airbnb that I wanted something walkable. The reviews were a little warning, like, hey, yeah, you can walk, but it's, you know, it's a hike. And so I was like, oh, well, are they just out of shape? You know, you just gotta start to rationalize in your head. Like, maybe they just, we forgot a lot. We hike. It's not gonna be a big deal. No, this hike was 20 minutes. Steep inclines up a mountain. Up a mountain, okay? - Clip in. - Clip in! I'll show you a video of it. And by the end of this hike, we only left our house one, and then went home once. Because we were not gonna go up and down this multiple times a day. It was such, it was hard. Huffing, puffing, sweating. - Well, and also you're kind of scared of heights. - It wasn't that, no, it wasn't dangerous. It wasn't a height thing. It was just a, wow, like, I'm bringing a nice outfit and I'm absolutely pitted. I'm so stinky. My chest is just dripping and it was human. It just wasn't romantic. It was actually exercise every day. (laughing) - I thought about that. The one day you guys, you went in the ocean or whatever, was it, were you staying at that place yet? - No. - Okay, okay. - I was like, did they just bring their swimsuits with them? - No, yes, we did. I'm sorry, yes. - That was a plan. - Yeah, we put our swimsuits in our bag. We just, one day we put our bibles in our bag and we're like, oh, let's go down to the town and read. And then we get down there, I'm like, hey, Caleb, sorry. There's absolutely no way I'm going back up that mountain today. So you're gonna have to carry around or to thick bibles for like 12 hours. You hiked around with those things on the back and then had a hike up the mountain with them. It's like, we're not going back up there. It was a hindrance, actually. And then we did find like, scorpion, you know, it was just a whole thing, but it was beautiful. So, for the men's, it's for the men's. I was like, maybe next time I'll just pay a little more and we'll stay in the town. But, hey, we ate a lot of pasta and gelato and it was great. So that was like the first half. Then we went to the Formula One. Do we want like a full recap? Do you have a full recap? Do we have a tour? No. Okay, so we did coma, it was beautiful, gorgeous. So then we go and we do the Formula One race and this was quite the experience. This was Caleb's, this was all you could think about or talk about, he didn't care about any other part of the trip except for this day. (laughs) And it was really cool. really cute. There was something that stood out to me a lot. We went into town and I was like, "I want to buy a hat, because I don't have any merch." You guys, America is just supreme at sales, merchandising. There was one little place where you could buy hats in the entire town. You found it. No, I didn't. They were ugly. So I waited until the day of the race, and then when I got to the race, they had a bunch of spots around the town. This is like the Super Bowl. They only have this event one time a year at Italy, and it's their little pinnacle of sports for them. And you're telling me not one. It's just their butt concern. I know. I was shocked. I just wanted T-shirt or something. So that was kind of interesting. No tents, no merch. That's crazy. It was really crazy. I was like, "This is insane." So they have this tradition at the Grand Prix where after the race, they storm the track. And when I tell you that, I thought I was going to die. I literally thought I was going to die. You were packed in there. Oh, great. Did you see the documentary about Houston, like the Travis Scott concert? I didn't want some people, but I actually did die. Yeah. Okay, that was just going through my head this entire time. And I'm like, "Stop thinking about it. Stop thinking about it. Stop thinking about it." But that was the moment. And I remember talking to Caleb and Mike, "Hey, this is probably going to be snug," right? And he was like, "Yeah, I probably will." And so I was kind of like a little mentally powerful. No, no, no, no. So we go to line up at this gate with like 10 laps left in the race. And we've been there since 11 a.m. It's 93 degrees. It's so hot outside. And full sun. Just sitting out there watching these race cars. It was very fun. But it was just -- Okay, wait. It was so hot. When you're seeing a race like this, so what's your visibility? No, there's none. Okay. Like for like one second, you're like, "Jewl." And then you're like, "Yeah. You have to wait a time." Yes. And that's when you're there. Yeah, but if you like, if you have to make sure your eyes are correct or else you get dizzy because they go so fast, it's like, you can't, you know what I mean? You get like the whiplash a little. And then your eyes get a little cross-eyed. So every minute I was kind of like, "Oh my, like dizzy." But it was fun. I don't know. It's hard to express this on his Instagram story, is that they also have screens. Yes, they do. You can see the other half of the race. Yes. And I was really into the contest, what I was saying. I didn't learn. It was, yes. It was very learning for me as well. It was a learning day. I think someone's air dropped. I was confused. Sorry, I'm asking so many questions. Someone air drops him a video. How did he, did he ask for that? He said, "Takes acting him?" This is this environment. This happened. Was made for Caleb because it's very communal because you don't know at all what's going on on the race. And also everything was an Italian. So we also knew nothing, now it's going on. And so people are listening to the race, the broadcast while it's happening around them. And there was a crash that happened literally just after, like, you could run, he could walk to it and see it. So when it happened to you right over there and he was talking all the Italians and they air dropped him a video of this crash. It was really crazy. Yeah, Caleb was like a little kid in a candy store and it was the sweetest thing to me ever. And that's why it was one of my favorite things to just watching him be so giddy and happy. I was like, this is so fun. Just, you know, Caleb is like a, he's not the most expressive guy all the time. So seeing him like that was just so fun. Anyway, what are they talking about? Storming the track. Oh yes. So we're getting lined up. Anytime you guys want to jump in, jump in because I'm just talking and I feel like I'm boring people. We're lined up. The crowd's already, it's squishy. You know, I'm getting squished in there. I'm sweating. I'm like, oh my gosh. So then I didn't know how this worked, but you know, you're not, you're not in charge of your body. You're just being shoved through a gate. You're literally like shoved out like a bottle rocket or like you let the air out of a balloon and it just, that's how you're pushed through these gates. I'm like, what are we doing? Why are we here? And so we get through, you know, at this video, I just posted a real, I took a video of it. I was like, wow, that was horrible. Oh my gosh. Like I'm in distress over this. So then we start running and we're like a half mile to, or maybe a quarter mile to where we have to meet because they, you want to go watch the ceremony, then get the trophies, a spray champagne, they have played music. It's like a whole thing. So we're running and we're kind of, we're fast. Like we're, we run and we're passing a lot of people in the crowd. So we get there kind of early. And so in my head, I'm like, oh, okay, people are going to come in. It's not going to be that bad. No, people are coming in from both sides of the track and squeezing us into us. So we're at the middle. It's the most claustrophobic I've ever been in my life. And it's just getting tighter, and tighter, and tighter to where my arms are literally pinned to my side. I would actually panic. I would need a circle because I'm also sure and I wouldn't be able to breathe. I'm tall. So I feel like that helped a lot because I did look this up. I am pretty much as tall as the national average of most men in Italy. Because I was like, I can see over most of the crowd, actually. So that was kind of good. I can breathe. But yeah, if you're short, like the girl in front of me came up to like my chest. She was, first of all, she was basically standing on it. She was tilted. Like, was falling over. I was leaning up against me. I was holding her up. It's like crazy on her. And my arms are pinned to my side. There's so many people. And in that moment, I'm just thinking, this is one of those moments where nothing bad is happening. Nothing bad has happened. But at any moment, something horrible could start happening. It was so hot. You know, people, I'm surprised more people didn't faint. So it sounds like a blast. Yeah. You know what? That part I didn't love. I just kept, you know, myself went into this end and I just kept taking deep breaths. I was doing a very good, I'm very proud of myself. I didn't panic. Because also, what are you going to do if you panic? You'd stuck. You're trapped. You can't get out. There's literally so many people around you. So I was like, you can't panic, just enjoy the moment. And it was short, thankfully. But yeah, it was intense. And Caleb was so funny, because he had his hand on me the whole time. And the crowds are like, you know, they're pushing people or trying to get out the end. And I was like, just like, oh, I'll meet up with you. Just like, oh, I was like, it's okay. I'll meet up with you. And he was just like, he was like, no, I'm not going to let go of you. Thank goodness, because apparently I have the survival skills of a fish. I think I would have just been likes to warm back into the crowd like never to be seen from my good. I was like, oh, yay. Why did I think that letting go would have helped? Matt always keeps me in front of him. Well, Caleb kind of broke the crowd. I'm thinking about the Usher concert. And we got to get on that little straight after work. It's like that. I was like, really, Abby. I'm sure it's just like that. I'm like, help me. I'm not talking to me because he knows I cannot talk. I don't have the breath. So you would have been really poisonous. It was crazy. That's hilarious. I was actually so I was actually so on the edge of pain that when we got out of the crowd, I started to have adrenaline come down. I was threw up. I was like, I'm going to be saying like, I'm shaking. I almost went, started crying. I was like, I killed like, that was the best moment of my life. It makes me feel like it was really, really bad because yeah, way more dramatic about that stuff. No, it was really bad. And um, but Caleb was pretty confident. He was massive, compared to everyone in this crowd. He was like, I would have been great over just picked you up. And literally, he probably could have just put me over his head, like, walked me out. Maybe just so much bigger than I've went in Italy. But yeah, it was, it was definitely an experience. It marked it off as bucket list. And that was that. Thank you to Cash App for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Can I tell you something that was a, it was a really hard lesson to learn? Budgeting. Oh man, every time that budget conversation came up, it was a sweat sitting. Something that I probably could have learned a little earlier. Thankfully Cash App is offering accounts for kids. 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But the day was amazing. Like I don't want to go to more races. It was really fun. And then we spent a couple days in Milan and just exploring it was so beautiful. I thought Milan was going to be really lame. Just based off of what I saw online. But it was fantastic. It was so walkable, so safe, fashion capital of the world. It's pretty amazing. So yeah, we had a really good time. Are you not. Well, I wasn't going to bring up if you weren't going to bring it up. I don't know if it was a secret. No, it's not a secret, but I didn't want to brag. I got really nice bag. I got my bag, lady. - It's a plot of bag. It was probably with the cheapest bags in the store. It doesn't matter. It was amazing. - It was so beautiful. - I was so excited about it. I, yeah, I didn't want to, I was like, my favorite video is online to watch your bag and box and stuff as I mean. - I don't want to. - I don't want to be right. So people bring it up, I'll talk about it. But yeah, I just feel so excited. It was so sweet because Caleb going in. You guys heard on the podcast. - Were you guys planning on buying a nice bag? - No, Caleb said it on the podcast. - Yeah, I just heard it in the episode. - He was like being serious. - I didn't know, I didn't bring it up again. I was like, I'm just gonna let that one sit in the air. - Oh, you never brought it back up? - No, I wasn't gonna bring it back up. - I was in the first time he ever said it. - It was. I wasn't gonna shut it down. I wasn't gonna bring it up again from maybe not. You know what I mean? So I was just gonna let it be. - Okay. - And then when we were there, he wanted to go into all these nice stores. Like, Gucci Proud, he was like, you wanna go in? I was like, no, I don't wanna go in. Because I don't wanna go in and waste these sales associates time, it feels weird. It's kind of to go in and not have an appointment. But it's not just a place you go in and browse these stores. You know, so I'm just like, yeah, I'll go in and look, but it feels kind of weird to go in and not. I don't know, be serious about this. - You're like, unless the door's open. Unless the venue is kind of like, I want you to like, this is your Formula One race. Like this is your, you wanted to do this your whole life. So it was really sweet. And yeah, I did get quoted for one bag. That was $3,400 and Kylv. I was like, I love this bag. And then I kept looking at Kylv and he was not making eye contact. And he was like, I can't approve that person. - And I kept looking and was like, wow, this is so pretty. - I love it. - I kept looking for his eyes. And he was just like, looking around with a smile on his face. And then I was like, okay, I'm gonna, thank you so much. - I can take this home, but we'll be back. Kylv was like, okay, not that much, please. So I was like, good, I have some hand bars on the budget. - I was gonna take what you're gonna give me, you know? Max it out, baby. - Right, I was like, I was like, I wasn't gonna start low. I'm gonna start high. - That's a rookie mistake. - So, yes, it's really pretty. It's a small bag. I didn't want like a casual bag. I needed a nice like night bag. I just don't have anything like that. And it's gorgeous. It's this burgundy wine leather. It's a soft, I think it's a calf leather. And it has, it's like the perfect little shoulder bag. And I'm obsessed with it. - I know and I just can't wait to wear it and give it to my daughter someday. - Did you use it? - While you were in Italy? - I did. - Yeah, I had to. - I said I had to take my Ferrari for a drive. - As you should. - You. - Get gone in the Ferrari. - That's sweet. - I'm so happy for you. - Thank you, I feel very giddy. It was just sweet to the moment. Like we go on this big trip. And it just felt like that bag is gonna have a lot of sweet memories tied to it. - And Caleb was so excited for me. - Of course. - I know, he's so cute. - So it was an amazing thing. - Essentially a souvenir. - A kind of, yeah. - A really nice, really nice souvenir. (laughing) - Really nice. - I know, it just felt so special. - That is really fun. - It's so happy. - This is so crazy about Italy, this is the last thing I'm gonna say. Because this really stood out to me. In Italy, when people are eating dinner, no one has their phones out. At all. Like that was one of the biggest things that stood out to me. The difference between Italy. I mean, there were a lot of things. But I was like, wow, this society is so social. Like the phones weren't even on the table. They were nowhere. And I felt like that's how when I was looking around, I could always pinpoint the Americans because they were on their phones or had them out. - Oh, sad. - I know, I was like, this is a really good practice to just even have them away. And people were out. They would set there for hours and talk and just have dinner until late night. They never had their phones on them. I know, it was very cool. - That is awesome. - I know, so that's great. I'm gonna take that with me. - Yeah. - I feel like you're not on your phone a much. - Thank you. - I really try not to be, but then I also don't respond to things. (laughing) - You're okay. - I know. - I tried, thanks for listening to it. I hope I didn't ramble and bore you, but. - Not at all. How was it being away from the kids for that long? - Oh, you know what? Okay, that first day, so we left on Tuesday, I was battling thoughts on the plane. Like, it was actually sad. I got slinked up. - I've been there. - I closed my eyes to go to sleep and all I could think here was, you're a selfish mom. You're so selfish. - How dare you. You're gonna die. Just like dark thoughts. How dare you leave them without a mother. - Like just terrible things. And I had to tell Kale about it. And I was just praying through. I'm like, okay, what's true? This is not true. These are lies. Like, you don't have to feel this way. And I think-- - And I bet Kale didn't feel like, 'cause I feel like guys are immune. - It was so like, we haught. - Literally. I was like, do you even love them? - You don't even care about our hospital. - I know. I'm like, what? But they just are gonna compartmentalizing it. And they are gonna live in where their feet are. - Totally. - Totally. - It was good, because I think if we had both been sad, obviously it would've been fun. - It had different times we were. - But yeah, I think that first day, I thought a lot of guilt. And then I was able to kind of talk through that and like work through that pretty quickly. - Do you want to know something really morbid? - Yeah. - Is that, like, I have a growing fear of turbulence, but if my kids are with me on the plane. - Knowing it's so better. - I'm not that phased at all. - No, same thing. - Whereas like, which I'm like, gosh, I let them live. Like why am I like, if we're going down, we're all going down. Like I should be like, like why is that my thought brought, like my subconscious thought process? Like let them have their life, I know you see. But I think a world, like leaving them when I'm like, you need me. - Yeah. - I'm like, I don't want, I know. - I don't want them. - It's so dark. - But like, even though I'm a trauma, if you're, if you leave them like that. - I'm like, that's traumatic. - I can't do it like that though, because people trauma need to live. - Okay, let's play a little thing. - Let's get it back on track. - But yeah, I feel that felt that too. It was very dark. - I know. - It was very sad. And also the day before we did our will. So I'm like, really thinking about it. - You did it the day before. You are at the point of doing the weirdest timing of anything. - Yeah, I just had done it years ago. (laughing) - I'm like, maybe this should go now. - Make a way. - We gotta make a will. - For freewill.com. (laughing) - I'm like kidding. - It's like 20 minutes. - At least it's something for now. - I got it noterized on Monday. We left on Tuesday. So, I thought I was like, who did you do it with? Like, freewill.com. - But at least you still have to get it noterized. So it is official. - It is official. Yeah, I said kill if you gotta leave work. We're meeting at lunch. See you at UPS, and we're getting this baby noterized. So, in some place, it makes me feel sick to think about. But it's there. - I actually would surprise me is that once you made a will, I actually felt really good. - Yeah. - 'Cause I think before it was like, what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? It's like, oh, I know exactly what's gonna happen. Like, I know where my kids are going. I know how things are gonna situate. I don't know. It made me feel a lot better. I think also we have so much family and friends, like such a good community that I'm like, if we had like had to move or I think my like, if Matt was deployed, like we had to go, I feel like that would be a way more scary situation. - Totally, yeah. It would be for sure. - Yeah, I'm grateful we have that in place, but it was, I was just thinking about it a lot. So, I had the guilt. It was really easy, I think it was mean thoughts. But I opened my eyes after my four hour sleep on that plane, and I felt good. - You never came back? - No, I did a little bit here and there. But, for the most part, I could keep it at bay. CJ and Vivian were in such good spirits. They had the best time with my kids. - I saw them stay with them. - And every time I'd call, she'd be like, "Have a good trip, Mom, I love you, bye." Like, it wasn't like dying to stay on the phone with me. Like, he was having so much fun. And then Teresa and John came in. So, you got to see both grandparents. Like, it was like a vacation for them too. - They were having a great time. - They were having the best time. My mom said, "But I got home." She said, "I don't want to make you feel bad, but they weren't really sad." And I'm like, "That's perfect." 'Cause if they were sad, that would've been worse. - Way worse. - Yeah. - Way worse, 'cause we've been there. - It's not totally like if they're begging you to come home. - Our mom was getting on a plane. - I'm getting on a plane, I'm coming home. - Mom was getting on that plane. - It took a couple of days. I feel like for Caleb and I to settle and feel normal. Like, those first couple of days, I was like, "You having a good time? You having a good time?" Because you know, you just feel pressured to have a good time. You know? And then after like three days, I felt like I kind of stayed-- - You feel pressured. - Yeah, I was like, "The pressure's gone now." - But it just gave me flashbacks to when he went to London last year. Like, Matt got me tickets for Christmas. And I, I fall on milk down in the, is it called Heathrow? - Yeah. - Green airport. - To a person at a desk. - I was like, I was like, "I said, my babies are back." - It was a bad situation. - Bad, bad, bad. I had a full on milk down, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - It was a bad situation. - 'Cause the flight, it was a bad situation. - And then they were like, "You can't leave." And I'm like, "I need to leave." (laughing) - Yeah, 15 planes, I can't even get into the details of how bad the situation was. It was just so, it was so dumb. Like, it didn't need to be the way it was. And I was just trying to get through to her. And it wasn't work. - You were in person freaking out. I was at home freaking out. - I was like trying to escort me away. It was like, (laughing) - I was like, "I'm going to take a break." - She saw, how do we fix this? - I was, yeah, I was just, I, you know, I smell my bear coming in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And she was out of control. - Yeah. (laughing) - It all worked out. But I was just really good in catching my breath. - Yeah. - Really firm in there. - Yeah, you know, I gotta get pushed. That's where he told me he was like, "For your birthday, I want one night." And I was like, "Err." And then he was like, "Please, just think about it." It's a December. (laughing) And I was like, "Err, not gonna happen." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, "Love you so much for one night." - That's a vacation. (screaming) - It's too soon to think about it. - Okay, that's too soon. He's only a month old. - Okay, he's only a month old. - Let's give us three more months. - Well, was that your hope? - That was-- - Yeah, my whole life. (laughing) - That's my life. - Did it wrap in fire, hope and horror? - Yeah, that was my hope. The trip was magical, amazing. I loved every minute of it. I'm so grateful. I feel really satisfied. I'm good for a while. And I love my man's. - Oh. - I know. - This is really fun. - You don't have a heart this week? - No. - Okay. - What can I be upset about? - I can usually find something. - I mean, Jess, I guess you have to be tired, but I mean, I'm not that tired as you. - I don't have a newborn, so. - I'm actually feeling okay. - Okay, great. - Thank you. - Give me your hope in your heart. - My hope is that, at the time of this podcast, going live, there's a lot of beauty, we'll have a restock. - A restock. - And it's a problem with this. - Hold on. - It's not-- - Shoot. - It's a small restock. - Can you save me one? I'll then know you. - Yeah. - Okay, perfect. (laughing) - I will buy it. - There's a bag of yours. - Do not touch Ask Addy first. - Oh. - And I asked Addy first. - You asked-- (laughing) - Addy, can I actually ask my product for myself? - Yes. (laughing) - I just don't want people to tell you to know. - I was out, I was out. - You know, you don't want to mess with them. - I didn't want to mess anything up. - Yeah, I was the system. - The plan is bigger than me. - It's so exciting. (laughing) - The plan is bigger than me. - Yes, you can. - I didn't know. - I actually also didn't have it written on the bag yet. I actually just wrote it. - But I didn't know that you had gotten to them and I was like, where is it? - And also, can I have it? (laughing) - So that will be restocked. It is a small restock, 'cause I hope that you're hearing this and there's still some that if you're interested in stacking a mascara, you can. Can we say when the next restock is happening? If it's, I never know who to ask. - I don't think we have a set date for it, but it won't take as long-- - Make the month maybe, you could say the month. - We're hoping for November, right? - Yes, that is the-- - Well, Monday, and right now. - We are in September, right? - September, we can put it in the caption too, but if you text restock to 1-8-4-4-6-1-6-0-8-3-3, you'll get details about the next restock. - But I will take one from the bag too, thank you. - That's exciting. - Yeah, that is exciting. - Does that feel relieving? - I haven't done too much about. - Sure, of course. Yeah, you got like one on here. - Kind of just thinking about. - Yeah, I literally, Matt and I got dinner and I was like, hi. - What's going on? - Haven't thought about you in a while. - Yeah, sorry, buddy. - So sorry, buddy, but I'm going to get my head back one day. And I'm just like, baby, kids eating survival. There we go. - Totally. - Who is bath? My heart is my dog got spayed. - Yeah, that's always hard. - It's so sweet. - I was actually so not prepared for a house that I am for her. - I know. - And she's always so happy. And I just thought about it. I was like, she's always so happy. - Yeah, she's so not happy. - I know. - She's so sad. And her little cone, it gets stuck on things and she doesn't know how to get out. She runs into things. And she is just, she always loves to play. And she just doesn't want to play. - I know. How many days has it been? - What? (laughing) - I picked you up yesterday. Abby hasn't even been 24 hours. And it was the saddest thing ever because I picked her up and like, she doesn't want to jump in the car. - She can't. - I don't know what to do. - I literally had to let her jump. - I literally, okay, but she's like over 50. I'm like, yeah, it's true. - I'm too short. - My car is too tall. She's too heavy and she's not helping me. - Yeah, she just got her vagina cut out of her cell. - Her ovaries. - What happened? - Her ovaries. So she ain't jumping. - She ain't jumping. - Her ovaries and her uterus, I think. I think it always gone. - Always gone. - When do you really think about that, that's nuts. It's nuts to think about that. - Like, guys gotta eat it, don't get this. It was gonna be more expensive if she was ovulating. I don't know why, what they had to do differently. - What they're doing. - So with a spade of what, to get a female dog spade of veterinarian, surgically removes her reproductive organs typically the ovaries and uterus while she is under general anesthesia. That is kind of wild. - Yeah. - When I took it in, I think it was for girl. - I think it was for girl. - That's gotta be. - It took, it was so short. - No, no, yeah, we took Louis. - That's like a main ton of spade. - She was there all day. - She was very cheap. - Yeah, it's not expensive. - Really? - Yeah. - They just cut the balls off. - It's a little less invasive for a guy. - It was a little less invasive for a boy dog. And then she was so happy to be there and then she was so ready to leave. - Poor girl. - I feel like she loved her vet so much now. - She doesn't trust her. - Yeah, that's traumatic. - I feel so, I actually feel so sad for her. - Yeah, that is sad. - Thank you to Thrive Market for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. - It is back to school season. And there are a lot of things to prepare ahead of time. - It's gotta be hard to escape. - There's so many things you gotta think ahead on. 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That right there actually covers your membership fee. So sign up now before this exclusive offer ends. - Well, Addy, what's going on in pop culture? - Cameron, give you guys a quick pop culture update for the wow that's crazy. - Wow, that's crazy, that's crazy. That's crazy. - There's a lot of things going on in pop culture world. - I don't wanna know. - I didn't even know what that got in. - Okay, so the dance who the stars cast was revealed. - Oh. - Like the celebrities and stuff. I picked out ones that I think you guys would know who they are. - Tyra Cameron. - Yeah, the bachelor, I guess you that. - They're thinking, you guys probably don't know what this is. He was like a backup for Rob Roush, which he was on. - Love Island last season. - He was the snake guy. So they're thinking he said no, so they went to Tyra Cameron. - Why do they think that? - Tyra Cameron's in a very good job of staying relevant. - He has. - Very impressive. - He's great. I'm Jenna Dewan. - Love her. - Channing Tatum's ex-wife. - That's kind of surprising that she seems like a little to A-list for this. - Yeah, she was a backup dancer for Janet Jackson. - She is an A-list. - Maybe it's just a goal for her. - Like it just be fun for her. - Yeah. - So that's another one that's gonna get a little bit - I feel like she's a dancer. - Like she has experience. - But okay, Julia Stiles. - She's from what's the-- - 10 things I hate about you. - Yes. - 10 things I hate about you. - Love her. - 90s icon. - Really 2000s icon. - Connor from the podcast. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I get their clips a lot. - I thought you wanted to say love on the spectrum all of a sudden. - No, sorry. - No, no, no. - The one who said, I have purse where that whole clip came from. You may not know any of that. - You know who he is if you saw him. They have a big podcast. It's Connor and then what's the girl's name? - I don't know the girl's name. - They have a funny dynamic. I get their clips sometimes. - I get their clips. - So maybe if you saw him, you know who he is. Jake from the Savannah Bananas. - I know the Savannah Bananas. - I didn't know there were a standout stars from the Savannah Bananas. - Yeah, I think there are. - Can we talk about the Savannah Bananas for a second? - That is it. - Why are people taking their children to a strip club? - The stripper show. - What? - A baseball game for these guys go out there with the most incredible ride to set. - No, no, no. They had the most insane muscles and six packs and they're out there grinding and taking their tops off and swinging them around. - Why did you hit the door Abigail? - This is a show for families. I would never go. - I don't think it's like that. - I think you're taking it a different way than it's ever intended to be. - It's like, it's more of a family show. - It's literally like the chip and nails on a baseball field. - Abby, get your head out of the gutter. - I don't agree. - Maybe I'm just getting these clips. - There's also a baseball involved. - I know, I always involved. I know, but then they're like. - I think you're getting the sexual clips. - It's got to work. - There's no females twerking. It's all, listen, 25 year old men. - Look it up, look it up, look it up, look them up. They're always taking their shirts off. - What should I look up? - They're children. (laughing) - It's gonna be a hot debate right here. - Savannah Banana's twerking. - My family used to host baseball players in our house for like the local baseball team. And one of the old guys that we used to host is a coach on the party animals, which is one of the teams that-- - Then he probably never wears a shirt. And he has to show his clothes. - Not all of them take their shirts off. - Or out there shaking their thing. - Well, that's what she's saying. - I would say the oldie's are a little funky. (laughing) - She's kind of right. - Listen, I've never been fed these clips. - She's kind of-- - I'm gonna give up. - Show me. - Show me. - I'm running hard for the Savannah Banana's right here. - What? (laughing) - See, I think I'm funny. - I think it's funny. - It's just-- - Even for my child. - It's just, well, like, do they take their tops off? - Tops. (laughing) - Okay, we gotta keep going rapid-fire, but this is great. - There's always so hands up. I'm like, who's the audience? (laughing) - Call their employees. - Call their employees, or 30-year-old moms. Who is the audience? - Both. - Probably both. - Okay, last one that I'm notable for our demographic that I think you guys would know is Conner Love It. So Whitney Love It from last year, season. Her husband. Oh, that's good. I hope he wins. He's a Nebo husband. I was watching the Earl Rally TV show and they kept calling themselves Nebo friends and Nebo and I was like, I relate to that. I feel like I have a Nebo family. We're not joining us. We're all going down with the ship. That was perfect. That was good. I like that. I thought it's two. How to lose a guy in 10 days is coming out with a sequel. Oh no. I'm already going to say I'm a little worried. I bet it's going to be good. The Devil Wars prodded two. Sequel was cute. I watched on the play. I loved it. Yeah. They did a good job. Maybe the sequels are getting better. Okay. But I feel like everyone's hesitant when sequels come out. You're like, who's going to find a job? Well, also that one's been on fire. I know I'm like, how do you? Here's what I heard. I'm like, okay, we switch it. How to lose a girl in 10 days. It doesn't hit the scene. I'm not going to watch that. You know, so what are they going to do? That's that one. Peter Weber. Do you guys remember Pilot P? Yes. He has a girlfriend. No, and they're pregnant with twins. I did see that. Good for that. They posted a thing and it said one plus one equals four. Oh, that's cute. That's cute. So he's having twins. Sequel lives in Mormon wives season. Whatever this next season is out mix. It came out yesterday. I haven't watched any of it yet, but I will. I will check in so I can I'll clock in so I can get my update. I want to watch it. Okay. That is my quick. Wow, that's crazy. Well, we're talking about the house buying process today. Yes. And a permanent horror stories and all the fun things because Addy. I'm like, how does it? What do we say right now? I'm cut. Blake is like a very particular guy. He's like, we didn't buy a house. We don't have a house. We put a deposit on a house. We have five houses in the house. Thank you so much for saying the record straight. I actually when Matt told me what we owe like with our mortgage and then like how much we paid off of our loan instead. I'm like, how we walk around and say we own a house? No. How we walk around saying that those are really helping. The five percent of this house is a bank's house. They're letting us live in this house. He's letting us rent this house. They're so generous. We have bought a house. Yes. Yeah. It's so exciting. Yeah. We got a new build house so they're building it right now, but it should be done. Hopefully in November. So it's going really fast. Yeah. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. Let's just talk about our history, our living history from the beginning because I think that's interesting. We've all had different phases of living. We've had roommates, college houses, renting with our spouses, marriage, roommate, you know, all the things all the way up to buying, which kind of feels like the last big step in the progression of your life of living. Okay. You go first. Well, in college, I did have two random roommates, both of them ended up living with their boyfriend's. So freshman year. I feel so mature. I was just nowhere near that. So here's the thing. Freshman year, I'm so excited. I like specifically. I went to college with some friends, but I like decided really late. And so they were already roommate together. I was like, no, I want a random roommate experience. I was like, so excited. And then I met her and like we met her parents like I never saw her again. She went and lived with her boyfriend. So then the next semester I was like, I want a different roommates. And so I also wanted to live in the same residence hall as my other friends because they had visiting hours. I just I simply didn't want to follow those rules. So I moved into their building, got another random roommate. She also lived with her boyfriend. So I was living alone. That's like your nightmare. I know it was my nightmare. All the freshman year, I was alone. Oh my gosh. And yeah, it was really amazing. Sorry. That's some chilly. Oh my gosh. It's just hit me. And so I was just sad. But I think I needed to learn to be alone. Yeah. You know, but it's a good thing to learn. Yeah. I never had to learn it. I've never done it again. I'll never do it again. Good skill to have. Boy, smell that chilly. Really. I don't smell it yet. I put on a picture. I put on Abby's sweatshirt. And I just always smell. It smells so good. I think someone's burning some. We don't have a real studio exactly. We're so professional. This is so off topic. But now I have to mention that. I did put on Abby's sweatshirt. No, it smells great. The reason why is because I have the shirt on. And I didn't like the way I looked in the camera. But I wanted to prove a point that I put this shirt on and like goes, you know, I love that shirt. Like Hayden came to me and I did so much. That's a shirt. It's weird. No. It's like a non. Or anything. It could be anything. And then you know what else is said. It just isn't me. I just don't throw clothes away. He goes, and it has holes in it. I said, well, that that side is not on camera. It's supposed to be distressed. It's like the title of this episode needs to be silly goofy. We are running out of control. What are we doing? Oh, I was living alone. And then you got married. No, then I lived in a house with some girls. Right. And it was so cheap. I paid $2.25 a month. That's awesome. I could even fathom a red that little. I didn't only tell these bill. We not only shared the house, I shared a tiny bedroom with someone because I was like, I'm not being alone again. You shared the middle room? Yeah. That's crazy. So someone had that big room by themselves. Yeah. And we were like, this is all we need. We actually consider putting our beds together. We're like, that's a little weird. We put them to either side, shared it. And it was me and Bailey was so fun. Every night, I'd be like, no, no, no. I was also engaged this year. So I was like, I need a share room. I was like, yeah, totally. And so, um, share with them. That house was super affordable. The people I lived with were great. I can't say the house was a lot of times I would come home from class. And unfortunately, as sad as it says, there were almost people. I'm sorry, unhoused individuals on our back porch. Just sitting on our back porch. Yeah. That you have to walk through to get to your house. But then one time they came in. When when you lived there, wait, wait, wait, wait. When you lived there. No, it was the year after. No, it happened when I lived there. Wait, I was like, it did. When I lived there, someone did walk it. And the woman thing. One of our guy friends was leaving. And he saw them walk into our house. And so he came back and he's like, so what are you doing in here? She's in the fridge. She's in the fridge. Well, did you like, just take something? I don't know what, I don't know what happened. What time I tried to, I saw this homestay when we lived in Kansas City. This is so, sorry, I think of it. You're the one who just corrected me. I know. Sorry, this unhoused individual, um, in Kansas City. And I was like, that man likes hungry. So I went home and I made him a burger on the stove and like food. And the only reason I'm telling you this story is because when I brought it down to him, he looked at me like I was trying to murder him. And he was like, I can't take that. I can't take that. Like it made me, I started crying because I like was trying to give him food. And he said, because people try to poison food and give it to homeless people. Oh my gosh. I know. And then saying, and I like left crying. So I was like, that's one so sad. And two, that what am I going to do with this burger now? You know, and then I tried to give it to another homeless man and he tried to get in my car. I was like, you know what? Going in the trash. That was, I haven't done it in a little while. I was like, this is unsafe. I was such a monster. Why I tell that's to bring. So Abby, after you lived at that house, then we did live in low income housing. And that actually, there's no funny stories from that house. Yeah. Like that was all serious, serious stories. We actually became really close with a lot of people that live there. And like I still think about them a lot. Nothing was sad. Lots of notable stories, but not ones appropriate for this segment. Sure. Moving on to our house in Hawaii that we rented by the beach. We were like, wow, we found a really affordable place. And it's right by the ocean. Right. Crazy. Right. And I'm. I'm also going to talk about this carefully, because I'm still kind of scared of this landlord. I'm even kidding. I read the hoot in a hall. She was a good time. Sometimes she was not a good time. And so what we didn't know is that the landlord lived about 10 steps from the house. How do you keep windows open 24/7? Yeah, the windows. windows have to always be open because there's no air conditioning. So a lot of things happen while we lived in this house, related to just renting from maybe just not the best landlord ever. Probably a great person. I'm so scared of her. I think she's kind of a convalent. I don't know, you're talking about that. It's like she's scared of her friend. There's not many things she did that we're legit con. One of the first red flags. This was a really tiny house guys. It was actually 500 I think scurvy counting the front porch maybe. No air conditioning. So the windows are always open. Matt and I are in the bedroom and we just hear hello. Hello. We're like surely it's not ice. We're in our bedroom right alone right and made she's like mad. Yes. You're communicating through the bedroom window. Yes. I don't remember what she had to say. I think of that when I was just like, oh, lie. This is a little odd. But also at this point we are 21 and so nothing really is like feeling that weird. Yeah, you're like, yeah, this just life. This just feels right. She had she wanted to ask this question. Right. Of course. So then another weird thing we go. So where we live, if you had to you'd have to drive at least like a long drive to get into town. This house doesn't have a garage. So she would know when we left or when we weren't home because the car is not on our front lawn. So we come back from being gone all day like in town and I'm like, so weird. I didn't have my wedding ring on all day. I go I'm like where I put it. I go, look, I'm not there. My wedding ring, my literal wedding ring. I put on a dish in the bathroom. That's really weird. I don't know. I put it in a dish by the by the kitchen sink. I must have taken off while I was doing dishes. I'm like, it's not there. It's pretty weird. Then we go and are like was that there before? Different home decor is up in the house and and a shelf has been taken down and there's actually holes where it was. And I'm like, weird. This is the weirdest thing. And I was like, did you lock the house? He's like, yes I locked the house because we'd had packages stolen from our porch. Yeah. Now it's all clicking. It's all clicking. Never thought about that. It's all clicking. And so we're like really made sure that we're like, people have come and taken things. We locked it. Anyway, he's like, yeah, I locked it. He's like, you saw me unlock it. And I was like, weird. Yeah. Only person has a key to the house. Wow. It's our neighbor who is also our landlord. She would come in and move things. She moved my ring. She put it on a different shelf that she had put up. She put my wedding ring. I thought it was gone. It wasn't gone. It was just moved. She just grew her ring in your business. And she also stole our entire security project and some other things from us. Yes. And she also sold legally bread dogs. So that's the other thing too. Our dog got knocked up by the person down the streets dog and she was selling pure bread. Pure beds. Bad dog with not a cool food. I was like, literally if I saw people, I was like, yeah. Because I was weird about people with allergies. That was like, she's not a golden dude. She was like given titles to like F, you know, she had all the degrees. And I was like, that ain't right. She's just a business. She's a hustler. She's just at your husband. She's trying to survive. She's trying to survive in Hawaii. She's trying to make a bug. Oh, it's crazy. She, I remember meeting her and she was, um, she was super nice. Yeah, we had margaritas with her some nights. Yeah. She was like, she's a fun person. But then, oh, she did yell at us. Yeah. She got a couple of few times. And then she apologized. That was sweet. Yeah. I appreciate it. She came up to me. I was like, I'm sorry. She was like, I want to say like last night, she's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was, I was on like, I was like, she's okay. She had some good stories for her. She's a good type. You never know what you're getting. Then we bought a house. Yeah. Well, then you lived in a one story. Oh, sure. Then I lived in a studio studio apartment. Yeah. Pregnant. That was better. Yeah. That was better. I was better. We went from 500 to 100. Right. Right. Right. But it's better than upgrade. That was fun. You guys have moved a lot. Yeah. Kind of. Thank you to Vinted for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. My closet needed a good cleaning out. And so many of my clothes were just sitting on one, which is just a bummer. It's wasteful. I had a lot of clothes that were in good condition on trend. 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Download the Vinted app for free and start listing. With no cellar fees, you can keep every dollar you earn. I don't really have anything notable from college. I had to buy roommates in college. I feel like I just had great situations in college with my girlfriends. I did transfer like second semester to Mizzou my freshman year. And so I got my, she's not my best friend still to this day, Lisaal. And we were kind of random. We knew one person in college were both transferring and it was kind of one of those, I just remember texting her and being like, so, so you need a roommate? Question mark. Neither of us wanted to be weird and like ask, do you want to be my roommate? Yeah, just ask you something to live with Mizzou. It's a really big thing. It never met. Personal things. We had never met. We met the day we moved in. Sweetie. I know. And she's still my best friend to this day. So lovely, so. But yeah, she was amazing. We lived together two years and then I lived with some girls from my sorority for a year or two. And then. Did you live in the sorority house? No, I never did. I had to do just apartments in college. Then I graduated. I lived a home for one year. And then when killed when I got married, we lived in this apartment for three years in Kansas City. That this apartment was so big. It was three bedroom. It was as big as their house now. It's like 200 square feet. We paid 10, 95 a month for this apartment. It was in the perfect location. Like, we should have been charged an arm and a leg for this, right? But the reason was so cheap is because the people that owned this building literally did not care about this building at all. And we're letting it just kind of crumble. So there were a lot of crazy things that would happen to us living in this apartment. Three or four times we had water just pouring through our ceiling. The shower that we showered in every day. There was only 12 apartments in this building. So it was really small. And there was a basement that had shared storage lockers and the laundry. And it was constantly getting flooded just from water. And I realized one of the culprits was our shower. And every time that I took a shower in this shower, the water just pulled like rain through the ceiling from our shower. And I was like, "Sergently, one of these days, I will fall through naked." Right? Oh, because there was a basement. And that's where there was a door that people would come in. And that was where the storage was. Like laundry was down there. It was like shared. And I like certainly one day I will fall through the ceiling. And I will be nude. Just shower. But I keep calling them and telling them that it's probably not a big deal. It was raining down into the basement. Like a lot of water. You know, it's just like a fun place. Just a lot of that place lived there three years. Then we moved to Phoenix. This were things to be crazy. I always got kidnapped twice. Not funny, but kind of funny. We lived in this neighborhood that was, you know, the area around it was transitioning. And across the street from us was a transition house, from jail. So, yeah, around Christmas time, I got a sex offender. I got over 20 sex offender notices in the span of like three weeks. They have levels. No, they have levels full pamphlet. I was like, thank goodness that we get this notice in the mail because most people, I don't that's not a state law everywhere. This was the most detailed photographs of the individual, the details, height, weight, how long they were in prison for what they did, degrees of dangerousness. So that was fun. Literally across the street from our house. There's like one that I scared of Willie Jack. I've ever seen him. I have a soul Willie Jack. I'm running. I'm running the other way. But Willie Jack was old, so I think I could win. But anyway, oh man, yeah, it was crazy. I kept him. I actually still have him. I actually was about to ask if you had those questions. Should I bring him for show and tell? I'd like to look through. I mean, it's curious. It was crazy. Very scary. And I was pregnant and we lived in this house. And so twice, I was walking in this neighborhood because the neighborhood itself felt really safe. One time I was walking and this guy pulls up alongside the road with me. And you know, you know, it's someone's coming up and he's driving alongside. And he rolls his window down. He goes, "Get in my car." And I'm just like, "No, thank you." And he goes, "Get in my car." And I kept saying it. And then I was I was like confused. like, oh my gosh, this guy is not taking the hint that I'm not interested. Like, thinking he's hitting on me. - Oh. - Oh. (laughing) - It's like, oh, no, thank you. I'm married, I'm not interested. Like, I'm little talkative like this. He's like, get it my car. And I was like, no, I'm married. No, thank you. He keeps saying it. And then he kind of stops and looks at me. And then I go, keep it moving. I'm not interested. And then he like, peels away and just leaves a neighborhood. And then, I don't know what came over me. It started hitting me. I was like, wait, that was crazy. (laughing) That was really dangerous. - Did you really miss with you? - No. - This was really close to the time that I was at the CVS nearby. - Yeah. - You almost turned in, you had mine your car. - Riding behind my car. Sorry. - I keep saying, almost my anthem. - I don't know, he couldn't have had a cow's Abigail. I don't think that's gonna hang out it. (laughing) Anyway, that was scary. And then another time I was on a walk and the guy did that to me. And then you go out of his car and I had to sprint. - Oh. - Run home. Yeah, so that was really fun neighborhood. I said, hey Caleb, we're moving. (laughing) Can I bring your baby into this neighborhood? It's very scary. So then we moved into an apartment. That was much, like, loved the area, I was really safe. But our neighbor was a nudist. (laughing) It's really old. And he would always change his clothes with the blinds fully open at night, with the lights on. (laughing) Did you see everything? - He almost saw me. They could too, one time. Okay, because I was dursing. Sorry guys, I'm all over the place. I was dursing and I was sitting on the couch to the door like our exit door. And Caleb leaves it to go to work in the morning and I had to see just my boobs are full out. And I'm sitting there and I told him to send the doors wide open. I just see his little dog on a really long leash. Start walking, walking to the door. And I'm saying that I'm like, "Kill, kill, kill." They don't want to be loud so that he looks at me as he walks past and it's just his little chihuahua. Walking by and then chuck. And he's just falling and I'm like, "Kill, kill, kill, kill." And then Caleb runs over and slams the door shut. Right before chuck saw my taut does. It was great, so (laughing) chuck wouldn't have had a great day. - Honestly, it would have been the great day. It was very nice. - Great day for chuck. - So that was always fun. And then we bought our house and it's been great. - See, I think it's really good to have these character building moments. - Yeah. - You learn how to live with and around. - It's really important to live amongst people of all kinds and to be tolerant and to be kind and to just kind of give yourself a different perspective. - Totally. - Because we're just used to your own four walls what goes on in there. You don't even know if what you're doing is weird. - No, you don't. - It probably is. I'm sure people thought I was doing it for weird. And I had enjoyed it. (laughing) - Some of you guys have some pretty funny stories too from this season of life. - Okay, this first gal said, "My roommate left her toenail clippings "and chunks of literal meat on the ground, just the beginning." (laughing) - What do you mean by "me"? - Tunks of meat. - I literally feel freezing. - You just need a dog. - Okay, but how does that just end up on your ground? This one says she washed all her clothes, got stuck naked in the basement when Rumi's boyfriend came over. - I really don't know something about what had happened at the coop, 1,000%. - That happened to my roommate's boyfriend in college. He stayed the night and then got locked up and he had for all his sleep. But he was in his underwear in the hall. - What? - This is in the dorm. - Oh. - And he was in the underwear in his hallway and the hallway was three in the morning and he couldn't get back inside. There are people screaming and banging on our door for a long time, screaming. - But we were both such deep sleep homes. - We did it here for a long time. - Did you hear about the time that Matt and I slept on John and Teresa's? - Yeah, they're driveway. - Driveway? - Yeah. - I'm sorry. - And it wasn't actually. (laughing) - So much lore. (laughing) - There's too much lore for the-- (laughing) - This girl said she needs cereal and bed and falsely. (laughing) The spoon and bowl would clatter. (laughing) - In case we move it. - That would drive me. That would send me. - I had a roommate that made a blue doll with me and I'm okay and sat it on her desk. - Ooh. - Ooh. - You need to move out. (laughing) - That would go down in history. We had a sink in our bedroom. Walked into a roommate pouring out. (laughing) - Honestly, where'd she supposed to dump it? - No, I have a memory of Abigail. We shared a hotel room in LA. - What do we do? - And Abby's out of the bathroom counter. You're staying with somebody else. Wash your feet in the sink. - That man? - She did it in the bathtub. - And then I think you washed your armpits. (laughing) - I really did it in the shower. - Why did I do that? - I don't know, I just remember that so much 'cause the person with me was like, "I had it probably made so much sense." - Yeah, that's what I did. - I was like, "You didn't strike me." And so I looked at her and I was like, (laughing) "Yeah, she probably should just get it." (laughing) - She just does it one at a time. - That doesn't exactly make sense. - She just does it one at a time. (laughing) - That's hilarious. - I don't know why that smirked that memory. We're just good, that's good. - She left me to die. (laughing) - She's been a tornado hours before my birthday. - Oh no. - I was asleep and didn't hear the siren. (laughing) - She left me to die. (laughing) - I don't understand the story. I think she's upset about it, she'll. (laughing) - What? - She didn't wake her up in the siren. - Maybe her to go to shelter and just left her for the tornado to get her. - Oh. - That is kind of, that's low blow. - It might not have crossed my mind, honestly. - I think I would wake up the people around me. (laughing) - Like, "Hey, there's a siren." She went to shelter alone and left her asleep in her room. - Mm-hmm. - That's a little twisted. - Yeah. - My roommate soaked her dirty underwear in a common bathroom sink and would leave it for a day or two. - Ooh. - Oh no, that's really, really, really gross. - That's because I had a collision. - My roommate's gotten me pregnant twice. - It's my husband. (laughing) - What? - I was like three months. - It's a scary story. (laughing) - It's a scary story. - Oh my gosh. - My roommate used my razor and I knew. - Because there were dark hair in it and I don't have dark hair. (laughing) - Oh, I get it. - I got it in. (laughing) - That is so bad. - Yeah, we can't leave evidence. - That is so bad. - That is so bad. - We can't leave evidence. - That is so bad. And that is so. You've gotta just move out. I don't think there's any more words exchanged. I think you're done. - You think it. - That's so, I'm saying. That is so, so crazy. - Yeah, I can't leave evidence. (laughing) - That is so crazy. - Oh. - I came back from a trip and found my roommate's cat and I used my vet as a litter box. That I would, yeah. - Oh, so many other ways about animals and pets that weren't getting taken care of. - That's a bad one, yeah. - My dog found her in Visaline in our couch. - Oh, that's a bad feeling. 'Cause I'm sure that dog chewed her right up. - Yeah, like her roommate. - She's the bad roommate. - Yeah, she's the bad roommate. That's what I was thinking. Unless she's upset that the teeth were in her couch. I don't know. She put dish soap in the bread of filter. So me and my third roommate had diarrhea for weeks. (laughing) Not the sabotage. - Why would you give me the diarrhea? - I don't know, but. - The dish soap, I thought. - Why would you put dish soap in the filter? - Maybe she's trying to clean it. I feel like we literally just started using our bread up just to keep water cold. I don't think anything was getting filtered. - Okay, my roommate's boyfriend stole my wallet and lied about it until I found the empty wallet in the dumpster. - Oh, there's so many bad stories with bad boyfriends in roommates. Ooh. - That'll send you. - Yeah, those are some of the things you're like, I hope you apologize to me once you break up with this crazy man. - My roommate was cheating on her boyfriend nightly in our apartment. - I did have a roommate that cheated on her boyfriend. It was an uncomfortable situation. - Did you say something? - I didn't actually have to because the guilt ate her alive. - Yeah, so I think she handled it well. - Wow. - That was fun. - See, you know what, here's what's wrong with me. I think I love stories like this, so when something like this is happening, you're like, oh, I can't wait to talk about it later. - It is fun. - I can't wait to bring this up. Yeah, you're acting, yeah. - 'Cause yeah, these two are never good old. (laughs) - Good times, I hope you guys can all look back on those moments finally, even though it probably wasn't fun in the moment. - Right. - You learned you grow so much for heavy roommates. - And you grow so much from buying your first house. - It is. - You learn a lot, I learned a lot of things. And I actually still don't know a lot of things, which that's on me. Matt's probably tried to tell me a lot of things. I'll get there eventually. (laughs) And then the mess who wants to be a real estate agent. - I do want to be a real estate agent, so I will have to learn. - You will learn. - The first thing I learned, this one's a more like a for fun one, to keep a poker face when you're looking at houses. 'Cause I would go through all these houses. I'm like gorgeous, I love it, we can live here. We could have all of our babies here. Whatever they want to charge us, pay them double. Like I would just, I loved it. Like if I, it was just like very chatty and Matt's like, right, right. And I'm like, you're getting paranoid. He's like, no, like, you can't, if they know how interested you are, then they're not gonna be willing to negotiate. Or like, he's like, just, you know, pipe down. [BLANK_AUDIO] We could talk about this later. And so yeah, he's like, well, 'cause here's how we know is that one house we looked at, they had a camera in their kitchen. And I said something, I must've said something specific about like maybe the price it was at or like, I don't even remember, but Matt was like, unless he was just totally paranoid, we after talking to a real estate agent too, they're like, yeah, I think that they probably were watching while we were in the house. And I was just like, you know, chatting away. I bet they probably were. We bought the house and they did not negotiate. Oh, shoot. So is this house? No, uh-uh, perfect. Yeah, that's our first house. It's a great house. So yeah, we paid sticker. Yeah, yeah, for him. And it had been on the market for a while. Dang it. Hey, it was a great house, great location. Learned my lesson. So then we really got the house and I was like, I'm in it. I don't know how it's gonna work. I don't like that. I don't like it. They faked me things. That's a good one. I think that's a really good one. I think also my first one probably, um, Abby, did you write it down? Do you know what it is? You think I'm just like, no, I'm just such a. I liked it this morning. Let me see. No. Zero words. No, I have good ones. You actually, I didn't expect that you don't have to pay your first month mortgage. Ooh. That's a big one. They didn't want to know. Yeah, and I was, they told us that because I think the timeline when you're renting to buying, sometimes feels a little strapped. I think both situations, like if you have to sell a house to then buy a house is very stressful, but also like renting to buy and could be stressful timeline-wise. Um, and we were like, no, we don't want to get stuck paying two mortgage, like a rent and mortgage at the same time. Well, you actually don't pay a mortgage for quite some time. I'm actually like that first month and a half. You basically don't pay a mortgage. I can say from current experience because I asked this question with my realtor and our, so you don't have to pay the first month, but it is by day. So like, let's say we end up closing on November 15th. Okay, our next mortgage, or that would be December 15th. Our first mortgage payment is January 1st, the first of the month. So we have to pay those 15 days plus our first mortgage. Yes, it's a little bit more. So it's a little bit more, so you don't pay that. It's like the second month you're in it is when you start paying, but you do have to pay for that. You kind of catch up a little bit. But that was a huge relief to us. Yeah, and I feel like for you guys too, timeline-wise, just knowing that there is a little bit of a buffer there from when, it's not like your mortgage starts immediately. So if you're in that timeline where you're like trying to match it up perfectly, a little wiggle room. More on a financial side of things too for that is that I did not know that you need two years of income. And so this isn't even just if you're self-employed. It is especially difficult to get alone if you're self-employed. But even if you just have a job, you can do it. But it's going to be way easier if you just wait until you have two years of income from the same place. Yeah. Because trying to make that work, like in my head, I was like, they can see that we can make, like, they're like, you don't care, actually. And so, yeah. And I think there's a lot of avenues for people that are self-employed, but still is a lot trickier. Yeah. You have to really just find a more progressive lender. And so-- And underwriters. Yes. Which they do. You don't have to find those people. But yeah, we had a heck of a time getting our loan because of my income. It was just so hard. And they had to do some creative things. Legal, but creative. Two years, which feels like a long time. We also had to deal with that. And it's interesting because we had both. We're like, mine, my application part of it, super easy. I have had one consistent job for two years. Blake has had gaps in his from when we moved here. And he was trying to find a job. He worked a job for a couple months. And then he didn't have a job, but he was looking for a new one. And so, they were like, you need to have dating back to that on like a typical application if you're just doing it online. And so I had to go back to when we lived in Missouri, which was over two years ago at this point, to show that he had employment before that. And then they could accept it. But they just needed it, at least they did back. If you have nothing after you're unemployed at that two-year mark backwards, you have to put what was before that to show that there was a break in employment at some point. So we also had to deal with that. But one thing our realtor, our loan officer told us too, is that it should hopefully not be a problem. Depending on the timeline thing, so we applied in September or in August. Blake's two years of employment that we wouldn't have to date back to the Missouri one is in September. So by the time we're actually getting our loan, it doesn't matter anymore. So that's also, if you have a little more wiggle room on the time when you actually file your loan, it can be fine. That's another thought. But for pre-approval applications, you have to do all that, so. It's very confusing for me. Yeah, if it's self-employment stuff, I don't know. I'm already dreading it when we go to our next house. I'm like, how do we set things up now? Same thing with, like, taxes, I'm like, I don't know, probably I don't know. Do you need to meet with a CPA? Do you need to hire? I need to finish freshman. I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Well, you can give me more guy. Matt sent him to me. Oh, OK. OK, my next one, three things we didn't expect by your first house. I think, look at what you prepared. Listen, I saw the renting horse stories and all that on here, and I was like, great. And then now I'm thinking through this. I think I was surprised at how discouraged I felt through the house buying process. I think there's so much comparison. You get attached to certain homes. And also, like, when you have a certain budget, sometimes you're looking around, and you're like, dang, if only we had a little bit more of this, or dang, if only within that, I just felt discouraged in a lot of ways throughout it, which we ended up in the perfect house arrest. Like, I feel like God answered so many prayers with our home. And it was absolutely what our family needed. But during it, I think it's really easy to, like, feel those feelings. And I think I was surprised by that, because I didn't really expect that. I thought I was just, like, exciting and fun. Like, you're going to go look at houses. It's so cool that you get in and you're like, shoot, like, especially when everyone has a budget, so trying to fit what you need and want in a budget can sometimes feel tough. So I just know that's normal. I think those things are very normal. I wouldn't feel as them. And then in the end, you're going to end up in a great home situation. But you just have to have patience. This one's really dumb. But I don't know why this room really surprised me. They don't clean it for you. I'd be pleased. That is a great one. Really? Yeah. I remember pulling up, and I was like, they let, they forgot some things. And yeah, I was like, don't they take that with them? They certainly didn't. We had, like, baby toys that wouldn't, I thought they would just, like, make noise in the other room. And we had just moved in this house and I'm like, aren't we supposed to take their stuff? And also, it's grimy in here. Right? Aren't we supposed to clean it? No. They don't have to do anything. Uh-huh. I was like, where's the cleaning service? No. I had to say the thing. It said, so what are they sending the cleaners? And there's a thing. I was like, oh. It's dirty. It's dirty. It's dirty. And they can leave stuff. They can leave. They don't have to empty it out. They don't. Years of dirt and grime. There was like a mattress. I was like, don't you have to take your mattress with you? I don't love this. Yeah. I was like, those drawers still have hair in them. Mm-hmm. And that's mine. That's what I'm so excited about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm not a cleaner. I'm not that person. Oh. I don't see it. I don't. It doesn't register in my brain. Yeah. So you guys would probably walk in and be like, "Daddy, that's bad." I'll be like, "Oh, is it bad?" Is it bad? No. I was just surprised that they could just like leave stuff in there. That is right. Because when you're renting, they have cleaners come in and you feel brand new. Yeah. That's why I assumed it was just part of the process. No. You're a realtor to make them rope in it or something. Actually, that was a great gift for a realtor. Yeah. Yeah. So it could come dirty. Mm-hmm. Just know that. And I should have known that. Yeah. It does. It does come dirty. That's the third one. I kind of expected, you know, the neighbors would be really excited that you're moving in. Your neighbors might not be. Not that our neighbors weren't. We have amazing neighbors. But in my head, I'm like, they're going to throw a party for us. Welcome, neighbor. Welcome, neighbor. Welcome, neighbor. You know? It's just another day. Yeah. So, you know, the gesture of expectations on that. I mean, our neighbors are amazing level of our neighbors. But I brought them cookies, you know? Yeah. And I didn't see any cookies. I didn't see any cookies. I might have pardoned my neighbors cookies when we moved in because our dogs were barking. And when we moved in, my mom gave me a picture of her. And when we lived in our apartment, I brought all these people cookies and put a little Bible verse on it and send them off. We got three or four gift cards in return. I didn't give you money. I gave you cookies. I gave you pretzel rides. I literally gave you pretzel rides. I was like, that is so generous. And I kind of think some nice people are shocked by the kindness. The kindness. The kindness. The kindness. The kindness. The kindness. The kindness. Good tidings. Yes. into that she's they're so bad. Oh dang. So when they deliver they we put them in the fridge for a couple days and then. Oh we had our neighbor in our apartment was a chef. She was amazing. She brings us. I missed that. I missed that. Yeah. I got you now. Perfect. Yeah, I missed that. I missed that. I missed that. I missed that. You have you have good set of girls. Yeah, that's so nice guys. Heidi's cooking. Okay. Oh, Heidi. That was good. We have a few more that I'm going to think of. We're going to talk about it on Patreon. Abby's prepared, though. I got, I got some. Perfect. I got some too. I think I'm gonna have a seat. Okay. Maybe I didn't think I would have a seat. Heidi, do you have any that you want to share in the main? I was not expecting to buy a new build house at all. It wasn't even on my radar. The thing about a new build house is a lot of the times the rates are a lot lower, so you can get more for your price range monthly, like obviously the price of the house is the price of the house, but your monthly payment is going to be lower because of that interest rate. So I didn't know that. Yeah. We looked at four houses. We only, like, we went to a new build community, looked at new build houses, went the next day and looked at a bunch of resell houses. And I didn't realize how much they don't look like the pictures. Yeah, looking at magic that aren't like super expensive houses. You go and you're like, oh, that actually makes more sense now. Oh, the flooring is completely different in this room than it is in this room. That sends me when we walk into homes and every room would have a different floor. DIYing is such a big thing right now. Yeah. It can make or break reselling your home. If you do it cheaply, you guys are able to do what he's doing job. But I think I walk into these houses and we're like, that was a DIY situation, you know. So I think that was like my other big takeaway was like, don't fall in love with the listings because they don't always look the same in person. Yeah, that's good. That's all I can think of. I do have two more good ones for Patreon. So we're going to keep talking about this. Listen, I'm quick on my feet. There you go. I got it. And if you guys are interested in trying out our Patreon, it's $5 a month. And we love it over there. We have our always hungry chat where you guys share recipes. We do extended bonus segments every episode for you guys. So extra content. Our book club is over there, which book are we reading? Just last night. Just last night. I did start it. It did make me a little sad. So I did stop on vacation. And then I'm going to piggyback up. It took a turn and I was like, whoa, yeah, it's good though. It's good though. Yeah, it's really good. So we're going to talk about that in-depth in Patreon. There's a chat there where you guys get to. It's just fun to interact with you guys. So it's also ad-free. Oh yeah. I didn't know that. Tell him point. Check us out. Thank you to Shopify for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. I recently launched my first e-commerce brand company. Hey, yo. Bismill beauty. And we have just restocked. So shop it. You are shopping right there at a Shopify website. That's amazing. They really made such an overwhelming task. So much more manageable step-by-step user-friendly because I certainly knew nothing about building a website. Thankfully, Shopify's templates and AI tools get you a stunning site up and running fast. No coding needed. Shopify checkout also means more customers actually buy and returning ones can do it in a single click. I feel like whenever we've had a problem with Bismill beauty, we're like Shopify has a feature for that. The best part of all is that Shopify's tools are conveniently located in one easy to use platform. Just sign in and start managing all aspects of your business right away. If you're ready to hear the of your first sale today, head over to Shopify.com/abbie to start your free trial today. That's right. Start your free trial at Shopify.com/[email protected]/abbie. Take it away. Okay, boys, wow. Ask, ask, ask, ask, Abby. Yeah, I know, we got a- Boba clock. Hurry. We got to go. Okay. I had it, I had it. I just wanted to know one of your craziest graduate employees. My name is Lydia and I just found my permit today since it's my first day. Yeah, I just wanted to know one of those experiences that you have and this is a fun experience or a really scary experience. I love you. Happy birthday. You said so sweet. The 15th birthday is so exciting. You get your permit. You get started driving. Listen, it was ugly for a while. Who is the worst driver of all of us? Oh, I'm pretty good. Did you see me? It could be me too. Abby makes fun of my driving world, but she also never offers to drive. I'm never driving. What the heck? I drove this bike off. Listen, I drove this to that one concert and I was terrified how do you use it in my car? I think you did a good job. You did a good job. That's really fun. It's me. I had lack confidence. I had a good amount because I drifted. You always talk about this while honking. I like doesn't know whenever honking at me. I get honked at a lot. The kids are like, why are they honking? My mom, he got a little too close to the lane. I don't have that position. No, we always just make fun of you because the one time we drove just over the last day. I remember I ran the fast. We can story. And she kept going like this. Yeah, you can drive next time. It was over the last day. I just got like, I'm just over-consuming. That axle on that car was off. So many quick jerks. Back, back, back, back, back, back, back. I kept going like, is this really how she drives? Yes. Yes. Not like that now. It is though. That is bad. Just the Tesla makes me a little nauseous. Yeah, how do you feel driving the new car versus the Tesla? I don't have, I'm not good at it. Really? I'm not going to get an accident, but I'm drifting a lot. I am a good driver. This is the one time that I was like, this was a bad thing. So I used to work at this boutique and we would park behind. And we had, they had like a little lot. And you're basically at the roof line because you're, it's on a hill. Okay, so just a paint picture. So you park up against the staircase that goes down into the building and then you're below your parking lot. Does this make sense? Kind of. So a picture of the building. It's built into a hill. So I'm parked behind. So I'm technically on top of the building. Okay, okay. But it's a parking pad. And then there's a staircase that goes down. That's in between the store and the parking pad. So it's like a little bit of a hill that you're parked on because you're on a hill. And I finished my shift and I, you didn't put your car in reverse. And I put my hair in, you know, and I kind of gasped a little bit because I got to get up. I'm on a hill. So I gasped. You're in drive. I was in drive. My car goes over the cement parking block. Okay, hits the fence. Almost falls. Like I'm almost, because then there's a fence because I would have gone down into a staircase. Cement staircase. I get out of my car. That's what you see? No idea. I hate that feeling because then you're like, I can't get behind this wheel again. Well, I'm like, my car is halfway over a cement parking block in halfway over a staircase. And so I'm like looking at it and like that was almost horrible. But I still turned around because I thought I was going backwards. So that had to put my car in park and I had to go into the store and get the owner and I said, hey, Nicole, you own this building. You own that fence. I drove through it. And she sprints at the back door. Panicking. And she's like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Like freaking out because I almost drove down into a little staircase. I think I'd have had to get a crane had to pull my car out. And she's like to horrified. And I was just waiting until I'm for like a 21 year old. I'm like, yeah, sorry. I'll pay for it. Dang. She didn't make me gosh dang it. I might tell my parents this and they're like, what are you talking about? She put up a really strong fence after that. Like she was like said. Because honestly, like I would have never sued her. That was obvious to my fault. But if anything had happened, that would have been really bad. That was crazy. Make sure it goes in reverse. Okay, one more. Hi, Abby. Abby and Abby, fellow Phoenix mom here. My question for you is what strollers do you recommend for 2002? My babies are going to be 21 or 21, 21 months apart. Sorry. And I'm torn between my side by side or stacked strollers. So just see your baby's opinion on what you would do. Thanks so much for the podcast. Bye. I love my mockingbird stacked. I love it. But to be honest, I don't ever take my double stroller out and about. It's totally just for walks. Really? Like, I never put my stroller in the back of my car and take it to the store. Yeah. Like I'm either wearing Vivian, I'm pushing her in the do now, or you know, like she just walking or I'll put her on and he'll get in the do now just like push him around. That's like what we do. Yeah. So I never actually bring my stroller to stores and stuff. So it's totally for the purpose of walking. So I feel like just get a stroller where you feel like you have the best walkability with it. I really like my mockingbird. I enjoy it. It's heavy, but they're all heavy. You know, let me put two. They're actually not. The Zoe one is 15 pounds really for the double. Well, I just feel like pushing two kids feels heavy. Yeah, but I love it. But a 40 pound kid and a 45 pounds. Yeah, it's going to be a little heavy. Yeah, I love that you can with the mockingbird, you can take out the bass and it like there's so many configurations for it. The reason why I don't feel like I need that is because I wear them when they're that little and then once they're big enough, they can sit up in the chair. Yeah, I put the vein in it a lot. Yeah, I do. I didn't wear her from our like neighborhood blocks. Yeah, I put her in the back. that's in that portion of it and now she sits in the seat. I would say most of the moms I talk to that don't have a side-by-side or like I really wish I got a side-by-side, especially because it's like when you're getting you and you have your first kid you're not thinking about oh I need the capabilities to add stuff to it and obviously you're not gonna get a non-side-by-side that can add another seat if that makes sense so but it does feel so silly to get with just one kid. It's 20 to 25 pounds. The double is? Okay. It's still really light. Like I wear it on my back. This double stroller and I'm fine. Yeah. But I would say like it's good for like the zoo for like anything that you're doing a lot of things on the Disney the aquarium going on walks. It says 27 pounds in single seat mode in 35 and double seat mode. Yeah I really love my walk. 35 I think it's got really good walkability. I push that thing every morning and I love it. I think it's different for each person which is not helpful at all but like we just had a friend to ask us like wagon or stroller and then I was like wagon because and I was like but stroller because get it all girl and then never bring it anywhere and just let your kids roam. I really got some new thing too of like bass and that. Strollers. Yeah I started using one just so I could go on a walk with a baby. See that's the thing. What about dinner? No you can't take your baby and a doon on a walk. Those bears are not meant for walking. They're like look. It's the worst and they're all crunched in there. You ever hit a rock pushing that baby to do it? It's not meant for that. How far are you going to walk? Okay we're going to run out of a little apartment neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to want we're putting some miles on this bass and that one and it's probably more comfy for the baby. Yeah because they're not really supposed to sit in that I'm kind of weird about those rules. I'm like so anti-more gear. I think that's why I like the mockingbird because it is concise. Like I can just have the bass and then attachment and then I can take it off and put the little things on. I don't have to have like a bass and then stroller in a double stroller in like all this stuff. It's all just one. You know and it's really easy to store. Yeah I just borrowed my friend's bass in it. Yeah so I just pass those around. Yeah that's why I like my I like the mockingbird but yeah that's good. Everyone has their own preference. Yeah I'm so sorry about that. Always hungry. Oh okay give me a second because you went to a cooking class and you just tell us what you made. But Naughty taught us. But Naughty. Yeah. Tell us what we'll tell you. Dang it. They have the vibe. They're super high. I didn't really matter because it's not really about the taste. It was more. It was still fun to make it. One time Matt and I went to a global cuisine class in Mexico and we made a Caesar salad. And then left. We were like this is surely just beginning. Oh my god. It's so fun. And I had like dragged that was it. And that's what we got. And a lot of wine. I was like I am this is what I thought. See the global cuisine. Okay I can I just say my recipe because I'm actually just going to verbally verbally tell you this is not this is not ground breaking or shattering. This is this is a tale is all this time but I just figured out how to make this and I feel like I I cook a lot. It's a sweet potato but have you seen how people have been making sweet potatoes on my friends and me this. This is the side of the internet that I've been sent. How to make sweet potatoes really yummy. Literally just cut them lengthwise. Preheat your oven to 400 degrees. Rub a little olive oil salt pepper. Cook them directly on the pan face down. Then cook them for like 45 minutes. Take them out. Let them sit for like 10 to 15 minutes and you turn them over and they are like caramelized because they're sweet but then you also put salt and pepper so it's sweet and salty. And I paired them with some steak. I've been making them I'm going to put chili over them tonight. I'm like why am I just not discovering sweet potatoes. Yeah. Like for me I always was like I kind of like sweet potatoes but only if they're prepared right and I didn't really know I would always chop them up into small pieces. This is so much better. I know this sounds so dumb because you're like duh we know how to make a potato abbie but I didn't know so this is maybe maybe someone's in the same boat as me. It's so good. It's so good. I love a caramelized. I forget that I like sweet potatoes. Especially when we're entering fall. Let's be making more sweet potatoes everybody. They're cheap. There's like new like loaded sweet potato type like recipes recently. Put chili on it. It's good. Really want to show this recipe because it's so good but I also wonder if I need permission because it's from Kim but it's her it's really titled My Friend Kendra's Pumpkin Bread. She need her to ask her friend Kendra. I don't know. I'm sure Kim doesn't care if it's her recipe. I'll share it and why did I feel that way about Caitlyn's protein balls? I didn't ask for permission. I know. And I almost put on the video permission granted to share. Yeah well I'm gonna text her and if she doesn't give permission then we can cut my recipe out. So just know that if my recipe gets cut out it's because I didn't get permission to share it but this is Kim. She's got my mentor's. She has this amazing pumpkin bread recipe that she got from her friend Kendra and it's literally titled My Friend Kendra's Pumpkin Bread. It's so good. Getting that recipe if she doesn't give permission. I'm gonna text her off the black market. This is a this is a long recipe so I don't think we could put it in the caption. I think we'll just maybe let's just put on the screen. I'll send you the picture. Fantastic pumpkin bread. It's full good. It's full sugar and it is. Can we stop making not? I know. No healthy bread. No healthy bread anymore. Only the full sugar. That was like when I was 21 and I was making the healthy bread. With apple sauce I did that too. Yeah and then guess what I would eat the whole loaf and then I'm like was this really healthier? Because I've just ate a whole loaf. I could just put sugar in it and have one slice. Yeah. But this pumpkin bread is so moist. I'm making it. I've sent it to you. You can't stop me. I already have pumpkin right now. I'm loaded with pumpkin in my page. Okay well baby. We're doing it. Maddie do you have any good recipes? I feel like you're being chef in it up recently. I've been chef in it up. I actually haven't been baking. I haven't been cooking. Blake's been cooking recently. I'm like was your pumpkin bread good? All right I'm mad. I think it's all that in there. I ate it in two days. I made it on a Sunday. It was gone by two days ago. Maybe doing that too. So I'm going to make another one. Maddie said she wanted one. So I'm going to bring it to her inspection on Monday. I'll bring I'll make two of those. Double it and then bring three of those two. No you're not doing that either. What do you want for myself? Without me. Bring it to family dinner. I'm going to bring it either on Sunday or I'll bring it to recording on Wednesday. Whatever happens. We drink family dinner. I just do that on you. Well you did say today wouldn't that be Vivian's birthday? No her birthday is on the 18th. It's okay. It's am I all right? Why would you remember that? I do know that that's everything. Because Braille is the August 18th and I knew that it's Saturday because I had a plan in my head. It's the 13th for sure. No it's okay. Yeah we're doing it. Okay perfect. We'll be there. I'll bring pumpkin bread. This episode's coming out on Vivian's birthday. Happy birthday to you. I love you Vivian. It's a big one. Okay we really got it in this episode. We're losing it. We're losing it. And I want to first shout out someone that gave us a five star review and says I love the girl chat. I love listening to this podcast. It's nice to feel like I get a little bit of girl chat in my day. I'm always surrounded by boys. I feel that. So it's nice. Think about I live with four boys. So it's nice to get some girly time. Abby and Abby are so relatable and real. I love supporting them. So sweet. Thank you. Thank you for listening. If you're at this point then you must like it enough to give us this much of your time. So you might as well just do one extra step. It'll tell you five seconds to 60 seconds. Yeah. Depending on if you want to write a review or not. - Yeah, I love 'em, read 'em, I love 'em, I love 'em, I love 'em, I love 'em, I love 'em, I love 'em, I love it's just last night which we kind of talked about already but just last night by Vari McFarland she's got it I think it's Vari yeah we did sorry we're saying her name wrong we're really really American I'm super reminded by my pronunciation and Italy but yeah thank you guys so much and remember we're always here

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts reflect on a recent trip to Italy, which became a memorable and emotionally charged experience despite initial challenges like poor food and a strenuous hike.
  2. A major highlight was attending a Formula One race, where the crowd’s intensity, especially the storming of the track, created a thrilling and physically taxing yet deeply emotional moment.
  3. The hosts note the cultural contrast in Italy, particularly how people don’t use phones during meals, emphasizing a more present and social dining experience.
  4. They share a heartfelt story about their first time away from their children, revealing feelings of guilt and anxiety, followed by relief and gratitude after making their will and returning home.
  5. The trip was a turning point in their relationship, reinforcing shared joy, financial awareness, and the importance of intentional spending and family presence.
  6. A significant personal moment was purchasing a luxurious bag in Milan, which became a meaningful souvenir tied to their trip and future family memories.
  7. The hosts discuss their evolving journey of homeownership, clarifying that the house they currently live in is technically a rental, with the bank owning the property.
  8. They reflect on past living experiences, including difficult roommate situations and encounters with homelessness, highlighting lessons on independence, empathy, and community.

Summary:

The hosts share a reflective and heartfelt account of their recent trip to Italy, blending excitement and personal vulnerability. The journey began with a plan around a Formula One race, which turned into a powerful experience due to the intense, crowded atmosphere of the race day, including the dramatic storming of the track and the emotional joy of their son, Caleb. Despite initial disappointments—like poor food in Lake Como and a grueling 20-minute hike—the trip overall was transformative.

A key cultural insight was how Italians eat without phones, fostering deep social connection. The hosts also open up about leaving their newborn child behind, confronting feelings of guilt and anxiety, but ultimately finding peace through the act of creating a will and reconnecting with their family. They reflect on their evolving life journey—from difficult college roommates and low-cost rentals to a meaningful trip that deepened their bond.

A personal highlight was purchasing a luxurious leather bag in Milan, which they now cherish as a symbol of their shared adventure. The trip also prompted deeper conversations about financial habits, independence, and family. They acknowledge their past struggles with homelessness and the emotional weight of isolation, reinforcing the importance of community and presence.

The episode ends on a warm, hopeful note, celebrating both the beauty of travel and the quiet strength of family life.

FAQs

It means the couple has a mortgage and only has the right to live in the house, not full ownership. The bank owns the property and allows them to rent it, which is why they are referred to as 'renting' the house.

They had a positive and memorable experience, praising the beauty of the locations, the excitement of the Formula One race, and the cultural differences, especially the lack of phone use during meals.

The crowd surged into the track after the race, creating a very intense and claustrophobic experience where the hosts felt physically trapped and overwhelmed by the sheer number of people.

They were struck by how people in Italy completely avoided their phones during meals, which contrasted sharply with American habits and made them feel more present and connected during conversations.

The hosts realized the importance of budgeting early, as financial conversations were challenging and stressful, especially when they had to manage spending during a trip.

They discovered that spending money during a trip without guilt or pressure created a more enjoyable and liberating experience, helping them feel like they were living freely and authentically.

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