Roof Korean Tony Moon Tells The REAL Story Of The LA Rodney King Riots | Unsubscribe Podcast 261

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I'm joined today by Eli Dulltap, Fat Electrician, our resident Roof Korean Tony Moon, Brandon Rare. Myself Don't an Operator. Thank you so much for being here. What's up, my man? Where's the water bottle? Oh. I saw it at the range. It's in this trunk. It's weaponized. I got a closer look at it. Is it beautiful? Is it the water bottle? No. No, it's not the one for me. I'm like, he decomposated that one. Oh, damn it. That's one of my favorite videos ever. I was just telling him that at lunch, like, man, I watched the video at first, like, oh, damn, that guy got fucked up. And then I watched it again. Like, is that Tony? Okay. I need it. He's got like a full on, like, rope flail handle, like it sings a weapon. It's just a handle. It's just a handle. Yeah, it's just a handle. It's just an anal. It's just an anal. I'd read myself with that. That's a lot of acceleration. What is this video about? I'm at a loss now. Well, we have to play. We have to show on the screen. We will bring it up. Tony, explain it. Tell people who you are. They're like, who's the random agent? Well, you look at what he's looking for. So what happened was it was at a protest. It was in LA. It was a place called Whispar, which is a Korean owned spa. And they were actually, they were letting men into the women's section. And there was a video of a woman who was livid that her two daughters were in there and there was a full grown man that was naked walking around. So from that video, there was a protest that was planned, but then the opposition got word of the protest. So they bust in like two busloads, like 150 guys, 150 antifig black block antifa to the cement. So there was like four corners of the block with 30 on each block. And I was there. And I was basically just going to go there just to kind of scope things out. And then I saw a woman wearing a shirt as a fluorescent yellow shirt that says Jesus saves and she was talking to the police with a couple of the guys. So it's one of the few moments where I felt God speaking to my heart. So I pulled over because I was going to take off. There was like a whole bunch of guys. I'm not, I didn't want to get in the mix, but pulled over and then I started having conversation with them. And surprisingly, they were evangelizing or, you know, to these guys, the antifa guys, you know, and you can't do that to the mob because they don't listen. So they were going to go back because they were assaulted the first time. So they were going back the second time. And then I was following them back the second time when I got interrupted and that's where the video stuff happened. This is where this happens. Oh, that's my favorite part. I can only tell you get the fuck on. Can I see that again? Because it's been too long. Two, two, two, two piece. Don't do just ran away. God, can I make that my ring tone? Don't. Don't. It's like where they do the, uh, don't, don't. They turn down to a meme, you know that all our times have come, you know, that one. Oh, yeah. Don't fear the reaper. Yeah. The beginning. The cowbell. Yeah. That's fucking good. So what happened in trouble? No. After you don't, the dude did. He went away. Well, actually, I don't say don't the dude. That's a little. It asserts dominance. But Alexander, the great cheerly thought so. Hear me out. The water bottles that say hydrate and die. Yeah. Maybe. There you go. Yeah. That's a new business. Hydrate on TBI. Oh, God. Yeah. Self-defense hydroflask. It's perfect. Did, uh, did the police shop or did they actually, they walked me away and that's it. Yeah. But they were cool. They were just like, yep, you're allowed to do that. Well, they were actually 15 feet away, so they were watching everything that's going on. And I've had enough experience with law enforcement. So I know kind of where I can, what I can do and what I can't do. Be addicted to them. Yeah. Really? No. I like cops. I mean, I think they do a lot, so. Oh, it's a brand. You have coding lists. Yes. We all. So I don't want to leave you out. Oh, it's a brand common. I'm not a cop. Yeah. Most cops, man. Hey, cab. You know what I'm saying, guys? Hey, cab. Yeah. Okay. Now you, uh, do you know about Cody's background? I do. Okay. Okay. That's what I was wondering on, uh, whose content you've kind of watched because you were throwing into the unsubmixed from other from your handler. Yeah. And your team for the book you're releasing. And then we're just figuring it out all today. Yeah. Man, I thought, oh, you guys just said slurs on Twitter. Yeah. Oh, you guys have, you know, you have YouTube channels, you guys have careers, you're for a podcast. I think it was, it was like maybe a year ago or so, something like that. We were in some sort of engagement and Twitter on Twitter and I, uh, you know, set through something out there or like maybe it was, it was either you or me. I don't remember. But then you replied and like talking about like, oh, we'd love to have you down in San Antonio, something like that. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm like, oh, shit. Roof Koreans on the table. I never would have figured that. But all right. Yeah. Yeah. I was, um, so it was weird because like the publisher was telling me, okay, you can't really talk about the book too much. Not yet. And I was like, okay, I'm not going to do any podcasts and then come January though. Like, you got to get out there and start talking about the book. I was like, okay. So it's like, stop. But hurry up. You don't want to see. Do both. Yeah. Do both. So I was like, okay. So yeah, I was looking forward to the podcast. And then we were out in staccato together. Yeah. Further this year. That was really cool. I had a big range day. Yeah. Yeah. I had a really good time. My kids had a good time. It was awesome. You brought your, your kids. Yeah. I didn't know what range they meant. I mean, I'm bringing my guns, I'm shooting. But I didn't know it was all provided for. So I was like, okay. So there were some pretty cool toys out there. There were. There were some really. The 50 cal. That was cool. Did you shoot the AK50? Or which one? I shot the 50 cal. Mod juice. Oh, yeah. Full auto. Yeah. And then my son did too. So he had a good time. Yeah. I have to get you on the AK50 next year. Okay. Yeah. It'll be a good time. So what, do you want to explain to the audience what kind of got you? No. No. Around the 2A community and, I mean, America in general. What does it, why does everyone know what a roof Korean is? Who is the moon Korean? So I didn't know what a roof Korean was up until 2021. I'll be honest. Really? Yeah. I didn't know what that was. I mean, so up until 2021, I mean, I was just regular Joe. I didn't, no one, my family didn't know about my background in terms of what I did in the riots. And that was just kind of part of the past. And I think it would help me kind of be more, you know, talk about this was COVID. In LA, we had COVID restrictions that were way beyond what, I mean, I came to Texas in 2021 to Austin. And then there's a huge difference between the restrictions that we had in California than you guys had in Texas. So that's kind of what helped trigger me in a sense. You know, I want to live a normal life and just quietly, but that and the elections. I think the 2020 election results really push me over. I'm a math guy. I do mortgages for, and that's kind of like what I do, right? And then I've done other things too, but I read numbers and the numbers. It's first property value. Yeah. Numbers just didn't work. You do numbers? What? Yeah. I know. I'm kind of the weird agent at those numbers. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. That's not good. A diamond. Common loot. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So, what do you, I created the calendar and I started tweeting about businesses that were being shut down during COVID, the restrictions. And then there was a focal point that was a business called Tin on Flats in Burbank. That was staying open during the restrictions. So they were actually allowing indoor dining and they got a lot of heat from that. They were getting sighted every evening and then I put out a video about that and then the newsmax picked up the video and they showed it, it was on Stinchfield. Yeah. So he showed that and then I started talking about the restrictions in COVID as well. What was happening in Orange County and then in four words picked out of my, through another video and they picked that up. So it was all regarding COVID, but then the whole 92 right thing that was kind of like, that's why I picked up my, my, my moniker and my handle because of that because I was kind of like, you know, what do I call myself, right? And then I just started doing some research and then I ran into that thing. Like then Roof Korean 90, I was like, Hey, that's that kind of place. Shit, that's me. Yeah. Literally. I created the account. Yeah. But so all of this, so backing up just to like, to super basics for the people who don't know. It was, so 1992 was the LA Rodney King rights, where I was actually doing some reading on this a little bit last night in Prap. It was Rodney King, who was in a high speed chase with police for, I think, drunk driving. Tyrone Crack. Yeah. Was he, huh? He was high on PCP too. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's the reason why when they were beating him, he wasn't responding because he was just numbed out. That's why. But yeah, but the footage basically somebody read recorded it. The news got a hold of the footage were basically they were beating the shit out of this guy. Yeah. Yeah. And then it just sent the whole city into a bunch of essentially race riots. Right. Right. The reason the city went crazy over it is like they were, they were, they were beating his ass. It should have been one of those cases where they put him in handcuffs and put him in the back of the car. They were standing around and like actually beating his ass. And then they took the, the four officers got charged with it. They went to trial and they were acquitted of everything and that's what drove the city crazy. Yeah. Okay. So it was based on the acquittal of the car. Yeah. Got it. Okay. That's when everyone went crazy and they started, like they started looting the entire city and they went down to like, create town, like where, where you and all your people are down there and they just started tear and shit up, still in TVs. It was basically like a worse version of the BLM riots, but localized to LA. LA County. LA County. I'm going to differentiate between LA City and LA County because LA County is much larger than LA City. So the, the, the previous ice riots that we had in 2025, that's localized to LA City. Like downtown LA is mainly where it was. But it makes it, it makes it look like on media and video that it's all the whole city. It wasn't. The 92 rights was the whole county. So you had everything from create town, down south past downtown LA to south central, over by like Brentwood, Culver City, and then up north by like where I was. I lived in Hollywood. Yeah. You know, County County is, County is in California are enormous, like, for the viewer, you're not going to know this, but one of those cities to say your districts is a 30 minute to an hour drive, especially in traffic, like, and that's just going, yeah, because you just know LA, right? Yep. Glendale. So that's when he's saying like Pasadena, you're going even past Pasadena, that's massive and it's just everything. Yeah. It was basically everything. If you look at downtown LA, everything south of downtown LA, obviously, that's where the black community was. That's where they were really upset. And it's not just because of Rodney King, because the year before that, a 14 year old girl named Latasha Harman's got shot, was shot by a Korean shop owner, a storekeeper. It was an older woman, that was shot, and then it went to trial and then she got probation and the black community was pissed off because of that. What was the story about that? Sorry it was basically, she was stealing orange juice, and then she was asked to put it away, and then she beat the fuck out of this like one shit. Yeah. She beat the crap out of this older lady. She's like in her late 60s, and then, and this is, she's 14, but she's a big 14 year old girl, you know? So she beat the crap out of her. So the lady kind of, I guess she says in the court transcript, she says she kind of lost her mind, because she didn't know what to expect, what was coming next, because she was turning around, and she felt like she was come back. So she pulled out the revolver and pulled the trigger, and they're saying that the revolver was stolen at one point, and the trigger was modded. So when she got it, it was actually a lot lighter, which is the fuck. Yeah, exactly, right? So, but anyway, she got shot, and then because of that, the black community was upset because of that, and then the year after you had the Rodney King, so it just all culminated into what happened with Rodney King, and that's where everything just kind of blew up on Wednesday. So the verdict came down on Wednesday, and then that's where you see the protest on Florence and Normandy, Reginald Denney getting pulled out of his car, hit with a center block, and split out in blood. That was on Wednesday. So then Thursday, so that's Wednesday. That was the trucker? Yeah, that was the trucker. That was your bad question. One thing that I read about that too, is Reginald Denney was, he was delivering gravel to a Section 8 housing complex, a lower income housing complex. He was there to actually take help, and they pulled him out of his truck, and yeah, center block, just right over his head, and then the news helicopter got all the. Z-biotics is a surefire way to wake up feeling refreshed after a long night with the friends. Z-biotics, pre-alcohol, probiotic is the world's first, genetically engineered, probiotic, probiotic. Probiotic. I got the word right. You want to know how it works? Magic. Finn, put up magic. It's like in a liquor or a zinzo bean. When you drink the alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct, it's great for the liver. And it is a buildup of this byproduct, not dehydration that leads to that terrible feeling the next day. 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The BLM riots and all the ice, that's all funded. Yeah. Right. So this was all organic. It was the community. And what happened was, so on Thursday is when it got really bad. That's when they started. The stores in South Central, a lot of the Korean owned stores were kind of like peppered like islands in that city. There's nothing. There's no central community in there. So a lot of them got looted, were burned. Firefighters that try to go there to stop the fires were being shot at. So they need a police escort. And they couldn't afford the manpower anymore. So they just stopped going there and trying to put out the fires. So that was by Thursday. So by Thursday when all this was picking up steam is when the call went out from radio to Korea, asking for help, so just a general distress call asking for help, anybody to come and help the community. That's why. So a lot of us went. I never got the call because it was all in Korean. I speak Korean, but I'm not really that fluent. But I got the call from my friend and he was like, hey, you see what's going on TV. I was like, yeah. And it was like, can you help? I was like, yeah. Were you born in LA? I was born in Germany. Germany. Oh, sure. You look it. Yeah. Thanks. I don't believe I'm South African, but you know, whatever. What age were you during this? I was 19. Oh, wow. Yeah. So 19, the phone call, hey, and it's like grab a gun or grab something to protect. This is what we're doing. What was that phone call? Yeah. So it was just like, hey, you know, it might be coming up north because his brother had a store over by Vermont and Washington, which is just north of the 10th freeway. And that's kind of the 10th freeway is kind of dividing line between Korea town and like the South. So his was just north of that. So his concern was that they were going to start coming up north, like the black community was going to start coming up. Because that was kind of the rumor that they're going to come up north. They're going to go, you know, loot, bell, air, Beverly Hills. And that was kind of what the talk was. So when he called me, I already knew like why he was calling me and, you know, I was watching everything that was going down. So I went in with him. But in my book, I outlined my past, who I was before and what I did. And why I'm very familiar with law enforcement and how they operate in LAPD and some of the ties I have with L.A. and the roots I have, and some of the ties I have. Mä olen tärkeitä semmoinen puhutta ja se on tärkeä, mutta joten se on se, että se olen tärkeää semmoinen puhutta. Mä olen tärkeää semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta. Mä olen tärkeitä semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta. Mä olen esiteen kriittää. Kriittää on semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta. Mä olen tärkeitä semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta ja semmoinen puhutta. No, se on krippiä krippiä. - Okei, joten se on krippiä. Sitten se on krippiä, joten se on krippiä. Meidän MS-tertori. Se on krippiä, joten se on krippiä, joten se on krippiä, joten se on krippiä. L.A. We already know the territories where they're at, so we actually went into their territory looking for them. Because we got the description from, so what happens? I'll just kind of time it out. So I went to, with my friend, to his shop. So you got Hispanic and Black employees that are pulling merchandise away from the window and boarding it up, right? Everyone's armed. Everyone's strapped. They got something. So his older brother tells us, "Hey, go to this other plaza over by New Hampshire and Olympic. Check on those guys. I got some buddies there." So we go over there, and then as soon as we get there, the older guys are telling us that we're being shot at. Who's shooting at you guys? Four guys, white Toyota Corolla, and they're doing rounds. They're just combined, taking pot shots at us. So we already know, in that area in the '90s, like the guys who drive Toyota Corolla's are MS. 18th Street, some of the established Hispanic gangs are more Buick, Cadillac, Chevy's, these guys are driving Toyota Corolla. So we already know it's them, and because of the area, we kind of know where they're going to be hanging out, where their hood is. So we're kind of driving through there, and we actually catch up to these guys, I think. I think it was these guys, but yeah, I talk about them on my book, but yeah, that was a moment, yeah. That's crazy. Even the isolation of Koreatown, and trying to compare that to any other city that has a district that is Koreatown, and it is a large area. How many Koreans live in Koreatown? I don't know, but it's about three square mile radius Koreatown. Great parking, yeah. Fantastic parking. Fucking God, I hate it. I hate visiting my friends, and I'm like, "Oh God, yeah, it sucks, yeah." But yeah, so it was three different rides, and in the video, you see Mr. Zhu, he's saying, "Oh yeah, there's Cholo's that are shooting at us." It's not Cholo's. I talk to some other people that I know, and they don't think it was 18th Street that was involved with the shooting. I think it was mainly MS, because these guys were first-generation immigrants, and they're just going to go wild, and these guys were actually changing the dynamics in terms of gang warfare in the 90s, when these guys came into LA, and they formed MS-13. It was one of the most dangerous gangs for a while, especially in the United States. They started off as a stoner group. They listened to heavy metal, smoked weed, stoners, and then basically they hung out, and they started having beef with some of the local Mexicans, because these guys are self-duringians, and not all Hispanics get along, so just like not all Asians get along sometimes. They had beef, and they formed MS, and then I think when they joined with the Mexicans, when they had the 13, but before it was just MS Street MS. What was one of the craziest moments during that for yourself? We were like, "Oh, fuck. This is a lot more than, maybe more than I chewed." I'm trying to figure out a way to talk about it without ruining the book, because I know you want to do both, but I want to talk about the book, and what's in the book, but I can't. I would say that it was. I've had enough in my life, where it was just another week kind of. I mean, it's crazy if that sounds, but it's just kind of a week in my life during that time. I kind of forgot about it after so many years. I never brought it up to my family, never brought up to my kids, my family. They just found out later when they found out, and then when I created the account, they're like. And then I told them. It's interesting to me, because a lot of World War II veterans had the same experience where a lot of World War II veterans were in battle of the bulge, or they were at some major battle, but all the history and documentation didn't come out until 30 years after the fact. So there was a lot of dudes who were like, "Oh, shit, I was there for that, actually." I was in battle of the bulge, and they had no idea until. They didn't know how big of a deal it was, even just on a top-down view, they didn't know. Yeah, they had no idea, because. Oh, I mean, that's skirmish one day. Yeah, it's just like, "Oh, shit, I was there for that, actually." Yeah, I remember that. It's just interesting, didn't even know you had a part of history until decades later. I had no clue, no idea. I didn't even know it was a whole meme or whatever. It's only until I created the account in 2021. November 2020 is when I created the ex account, is when I kind of found out about everything. Because that's one of the OG memes I think on your channel. You've been promising a Roof Koreans video for what, 10 years now? Yeah, I started off in 2016 talking about Roof Koreans, and just kept talking about it and talking about it, and I never made a video on it. So I think I brought Roof Koreans back into the mainstream. Like when early YouTube. When we first started hanging out, I think we were down in Charleston that one time, years and years ago. People kept pasturing you about the Roof Koreans video. I'm like, "Why do people keep asking you about a Roof Koreans video?" And apparently you had promised one, but never made it. Yeah, I promise to Roof Koreans video for years. Because back then I was like super hardcore in a researching crime, and I found the Roof Koreans. And I kept bringing it up on YouTube and kept bringing it up, and I never made a video about it. Well, you're finally doing it. Yeah, I know. Here's my Roof Korean video. It would be a Roof Korean, no idea. It would be a shame if the comment section adopted the WinRoof Korean video. You could probably call it WinRoof. Yeah, old shout out to PopoMatic, my buddy. He went ahead and he made a video about the Roof Koreans. Yeah, cool guy. When crime has fun on Roof Koreans? I know, I need to do that now too. That is wild. Now the. Well, for the audience who doesn't know, just to the reason why we keep talking about it, is like a meme, like the Roof Koreans meme, is in the second amendment community. It kind of became. I mean, not to overuse the word, but it became a meme in the sense where it was a perfect representation of going down the police not being there to text you. And individuals grabbing firearms and just protecting their own. Yeah. Protecting their property or their people. And so it just became like this icon, you know, kind of retro early '90s thing, but it became like that symbol for standing up and defending your community. Right, right. Yeah, I was totally unaware of any of that. I mean, I didn't have a social media account up until 2020. I did nothing, no Instagram, no Twitter, nothing. So you just off to internet, that's why you were like. Yeah, I was off to internet. I mean, I was looking at life. I was going to tournaments with my kids and I was doing my own business. And I mean, Twitter was just like, just something else, you know. You didn't realize how fun it could be to yell at people. Yeah. And talk shit. Talk shit all day long. It's the Elon thing. It's like it's the PVP server of social media. There was. Recently, there was one where they had Elon looking like a woman. And they're like wrong answers only. But I posted like, yeah, my kids knew stepmom. I'm fine with that one. Now with. You got to shoot the day-woo today, right? You brought out that. Yes. You wanted to do a brief history on why that weapon is important to the situation. Sure. So like the day-woo, day-woo produces a bunch of things from rifles to cars. But the Korean assault rifle, you see it in a lot of anime and shit too. Was it solo leveling? I think it was. Maybe it was solo. I was just like, ah, day-woo's. Like you kind of outs it as a Korean show because that's like their assault rifle or their iconic assault rifle anyway. So there's a lot of those photos. And we were actually talking about this a little bit earlier. You kind of filled me in on some stuff I didn't know. were a lot of the photos of the signature roof Koreans, the famous pictures. A lot of them have Daewu K1s and K2s. And so you were telling me that a lot of that is because a lot of those dudes were first generation. From their mandatory military service in South Korea, they were just familiar with them. - Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Yeah, it was something that they used. So they obviously from our with that. But some of the younger guys, like myself, that were out there, we had different firearms. I took a rhyming thing named 70 out there, and then my buddy had a Beretta 92 FS. But yeah, that is the most 90 shit ever, that's awesome. But yeah, the K2, I mean, I've wanted to shoot that for a long time too, 'cause I saw a field stripped, and like I said, remember, we talked about a blend between an AK and an AR, so. - Yeah, it's like they wanted to take an AR-15 and then give it an AK style long-stroke gas piston. - Yeah. - Which is basically what that gun is. - Exactly. - There's a long stick that gets gas from the barrel. Push his bull carrier back. - There we go now, we brought it out and shot your book covers. So is that the first 400, how many books are going out? And what was that for exactly? - That's actually for an insert in the book, right? So it was like a page. - Yeah, when the public just said like we're gonna shoot it, I thought we're gonna shoot the actual book, right? But they're like, no, we're gonna shoot the page. - You just want us to ruin the entire book. - Well, this chapter's gone. - Right, right. - Well, but then they have to, now they have to buy two copies. - Yeah, see it's brilliant marketing. - Stalks. - So yeah, that was fun. But yeah, shooting the pages, they're gonna insert the page into the book, so. - Oh, gotcha, that makes, okay. I wasn't sure on how all of that was working. - Yeah, I didn't know either. - It was a cool idea. We just got in and it's like, hey, let's go shoot this. So we went and fired. How many? - Is it the first hundred? How does this sell work? I'm trying to help you on your mark. - I got, okay. This is your picture right now. We shot pages for you. - That's going in the pre-order, right? The special edition book, right? So that's for that. And then they're gonna have their regular hardback and solve copy, like afterwards. But this is for the-- - The ballistic edition. - Yeah, this is the ballistic edition. So it's supposed to be, you know, special. So we shot it with the day rule K2 and the MP7. - Why did we use the 9-0 one time? - Eli used the 9-0 one. - The day rule because it's relevant. The MP7 because it's cool. - The MP. - About the logic that went into that. - Yeah, pretty much. - That's exactly what happened. - You actually got a fire, the MP7 full. - Yeah, you almost did the mistake of too many clicks on the first row. - Yeah, I know. - That was fun though. - It's a good thing you actually mentioned that. - I would have just sprayed the-- - Yeah, the book is extra shot. - Yeah, I get it. - It's like, it's got extra holes in it. And it was a blast. So when does that actually release or when do pre-cells go up? - Well, it was scheduled to be released this month. The 34th anniversary, which would have been April the 28th or 29th, my bad. But they're pushing it to July, August. Because there's a few other things I need to get done. The audio version needs to get done. So I got to record the audio. - I was just going to ask if you were going to record the audio version. They're having me record the audio version. So the audio version is going to get done. That has to get done. There's also a few other things. Steps, like the whole book publishing industry, that's like their own thing. So it's about nine months to a year for them to get a manuscript put down to the market. So I really like it when authors read their own audiobooks. Like I just dig that, it's cool. - Yeah, it's interesting because like the creative director was fixing a lot of the grammar. And I said, man, that was like, no, I don't talk like that though. You know, it's going to sound weird if I say this in the audio because I don't speak like this. I'm going to, I had to rewrite it according to the way, you know, I speak so. - No, I think your book is going to be like, ebonics. - Yeah. - I didn't. - $10, $4. - If you do it in Asian accent, the entire book lay out. - Yeah, the publisher said it was better for authenticity. - I don't know what that is. - That's the most recent show ever. - The post, like, you should do this in an Asian accent. I don't have one. Make one up. - Yeah. The beginning of every chapter's gone. (all laughing) - The thunder cloud rolling. (all laughing) Shit. Oh, that would be fucking amazing. - That's funny. Connor, what are you doing? - I'm a human, brother. - You human, okay? - Yeah, I've never seen nobody cheap a fume like this boy can. - Fume responsibly. - Look at Connor. - I'm cured. - From what? - My oral fixation. I would have something else in my mouth right now, but thanks to fume, it's not made of human flesh. (all laughing) Can I have that, please? 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(blows raspberry) - Whoa, the day at the spot. - Use code unsub to get a free gift with your journey pack. - Fume has already helped over 700,000 people take steps towards better habits. And now it's your turn. - Head to trifume.com, that's tr-y-f-u-m-dot-com. Use code unsub to get a free gift today. - So during, during COVID, you were seeing a lot of, I'm guessing businesses shut down and then seeing the control of it and how much she's f**king shit up and that's what got your voice going. - Not in the election. And that's what propel me to go to DC in January. - Which is? - Yeah, 'cause I didn't know that either until, earlier today, when we were talking about a lot of things that people don't know about me. - No shit, I didn't even know that. - But yeah, J6, I was a J6 too. DC, so that was interesting at a good time there. I mean, it's nothing like what they described the media, and it was basically families that were out there, kids, grandparents, you know. And it was because the election was fraudulent. You know, it was a fraudulent election. And it was very blatant. I grew up remembering, you remember the Hanging Chads during Gore, that election. - 2000? - Yeah, so I remember that, but this was just blatant. It was so obvious, you know? - God, shit. - And that's what kind of got me. - What I didn't know either, 'cause I asked you, as soon as I found that out, 'cause you were showing us like some of the pictures taken there, and then I had asked if the feds fucked with you at all after. - They did. - Yeah, they did. - Just for just for being present. - Right, so the two feds came to my house. - 'Cause you didn't go in the building or anything. - No, I didn't go in the building. - You were just there on the lawn. - Right, we're outside on the steps, you know. And then when Trump, you know, tweeted at around four o'clock, like, hey, go home, like it's all done. So we all took off and we left. But we weren't, I went there because I watched videos in October and November of people getting assaulted by Antifa, leftists and stuff, and so I think a lot of us went there thinking that we were gonna be brawling on the street, you know, with these guys, but they never showed up. I mean, they weren't there, but the reason why they weren't there is 'cause they were in the mix and the crowd with us, you know. So I didn't know that until somebody I was pointing out, there was a guy who had like a huge anarchy tattoo on his hand and he called him out and he basically screwed and went into the crowd and that's how he lost him. But that's kind of how we figured out that we were, it wasn't just us. I mean, Antifa was with us at J6 and there were the ones that were usually like Antifa BLM guys, probably the ones that were breaking the windows and you know, destroying shit on property. So also while them showing up, you never went and you were just there on camera I'm assuming, but then them showing up to your door would be kind of weird. - Yeah, I mean, I kind of expected that because they were showing up on everybody's door, you know, in some form of fashion. Either they were showing up as playing clothes feds or they were swatted out and, you know, basically, you know, closing both ends of the street and bringing in the SWAT guys, the FBI SWAT guys, so. Yeah, so two different experiences with feds. Now mine was a lot more pleasant. So I had like two fed, no man or woman, you know, and I spoke with them, but later on they got involved in my life, again, when I was having issues with my ex-wife. And so they actually called DCFS or CPS, you know, so they were involved in taking away my kids for about a couple of months. - Oh, whoa, what the heck. - And that was related to the J6 stuff? - Well, not related to J6, but the feds were monitoring me. And they're very, I'd say they're very insidious in terms of how they gather and tell. And I'm familiar with this and I kind of know, like when you're online, you don't want to really leave too much online. I mean, I still write stuff down with paper and pen, you know, it's just by habit. But I got a notification from, it was Dropbox 'cause I used Dropbox and Facebook saying that they were actually cooperating with the feds. And this was, I got the notification like in November. And they said that they were cooperating with the feds since like August. So the feds were actually, you know, crawling over all my social media and my counsel, whatnot since August. And I just, you know, found out. out about it in November. So, I already kind of knew that they were gonna do that and I already kind of feeling that they were gonna crawl all over my drop box account, you know, and look at all my folders and files. But it's all business related, so there's nothing that would incriminate me. - It's still, wow, from, like, when you think about that, how much money just come in over mortgage notes. (laughing) - Yeah, this guy's really like that. - We're gonna find something here. - I should've got my mortgage for this guy. - We've been pouring over it for three weeks and all I need to, all I figured out is I need to refinance. (laughing) - Yeah, pretty much. - It is crazy how much money was spent on something like that. - That's my, how my brain. - That was a shitload. - Yeah. - This was a shitload of money. - Never went in how much time resources, salaries went to just Tony Moon, you son of a bitch. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause it became political. - That's what it was. - Right, yeah. - Political prosecution. - And I try to figure out how they were targeting people 'cause it just seemed so random. Like there was like two older women twins that were on the Capitol, but they were actually, I think they were incarcerated for a while too. - How many people actually went to jail from that? - I know there's a list out there. There's a J6 support for arrested. - That basically, that are out there, that has a list, but I think it was quite a bit. - And they have a part like everything, just like clean, right? - Right, except for, I think Joe Biggs. Joe didn't get his part, so. - It led to the arrest of 1,600 individuals, 725 of which were charged with federal crimes. - How many were charged with federal crimes? - 725 of them. By the end of 2021. Yeah, I know it was a, they threw the book at all though. - Is it which hunt? - My, so I don't really get in a whole J6 argument thing, but I've always heard the stat thrown around that there was like four police officers that died on J6, and I thought that wasn't right, and then I just remember looking into it. So the stat that gets thrown around is four cops were killed. One officer died the next day, from a heart attack. Four officers died by themselves over the course of the next several months, and those are the five deaths that were getting accredited to J6. - Oh, I understand it's a COVID. - Yeah, no shit. - Yeah, that's a COVID counting, right? - Right, yeah. - For sure. - Everyone that died is COVID. - Those are COVID. - Those are COVID. - Those are comorbidities. - I think the, you caught nine millimeter COVID, I see. - Yeah. - Yeah, I just always thought that was a crazy stat to go and throw around in that fashion. - Right. - How do they associate any of that, 'cause it's politically convenient? - It is, yeah. - There's no other reason, like. - I mean, you got those, the people that were saying, like you can, again, debate the merits of it all day long, but the people that drive me crazy are the ones that are like, oh, this is worse than 9/11, it's like. - Yeah. - By absolutely what fucking metric. - Yeah. - You know, I'm sorry, according to some streamers in America, there's 9/11. - Which streamers would those, oh, nevermind, I think they're gonna do one. - Oh, wow. - Hmm. (laughs) - There's more than one Twitter. - There's more than one Twitter. - I love this episode is turned into, Eli learns about January 6th. - I know, wow, wow, wow, wow. - Just sitting here the entire time, this definitely won't be brought up in a congressional run. - Yeah, 9/11 changed everything. I mean, we had relative peace from 89 to 2001, 'cause of wall fell, there was no more Soviet Union, right? So we had no enemy, actually. Like, we got an arms in the street, but we don't know who we're gonna bomb. So 9/11 looked really convenient, right? So now, after 9/11, now we can go to war and go kill these guys for 20 years. - Yeah, we're talking about G1. - I know, I think it was a short war. - We've heard about G1, we only lived through it. - 20, dude, it's a while seeing individuals join, and then their kiddos served with them while deployed. That's crazy. - That's wild. - In the aviation community, they like, go out of their way to do it, but the buff, the B-52, they've been in flight for so long. There are B-52s that have been piloted by the grandpa, the dad, and the grandson. - Wow, yeah, cool. - Like, that's, like, the Air Force will go out of their way to be like, hey, I need to fly this B-52, 'cause that's what my grandpa and my dad flew. - That's cool. - Like, they try to make it happen. Just so you can say, like, three generations of my family flew that bomber. - That's fun. - Which is really cool, that's really cool. - That's a really dope. - Yeah. - Thanks a lot. - Two service forever. - Three generations of my family joined the mile high club in this fucking thing. - Yeah, like, yeah. (laughing) - They, I'm sure it never happened, but like, you just imagine, like, walking into a B-52 and there's like graffiti. - Like, your dad, your grandpa and your dad's name. - Yep. - Sketching dead. - Grandpa Joe was here, also dad. - Yeah. - It's just in the eye. - Give me a fucking knife. (laughing) - It's just the last name. You know, Hernandez was here. Below it, again. (laughing) - Double it, give it to the next guy. - With a B-50U, two's used just recently, or what was cited. - Yes, that was cited over, yeah. - B-50, if there's big bombings going on, B-502s are getting missed. - 'Cause we were talking about that. It's like, is this either way terrifying? - B-502 shows. - You know, I have a superiority who explained that one. It was what was seen earlier that day. - Oh, they were saying that 'cause Trump had the whole thing with Iran, like, you guys are gonna, we're gonna have an agreement by 8 p.m. on Tuesday. And there were sightings of a shit ton of American aircraft flying over England. And they're path, and where they were, it would have put them over Iran at, like, over Tehran at, like, 7.45 p.m. So they saw, they saw B-502s, they saw B-1s, and they saw some other planes all headed that direction. So they're like, oh shit, he's not kidding. Like, that is on route right now. - Yeah, your dasher is on the way. (laughing) You're just a plane, you're sitting there with it. You're a driver, again, your dasher, and then the plane's getting this. - Your dasher is picking up order. - Uh-oh. - Jeff from Nebraska. - That's your package. (laughing) - Trump. - That's hilarious. - Oh, there you go. - Five stars. - Do you need to make that story? (laughing) - And it's obviously, it's an objectively good thing, period that it didn't have to go there. We got time recording, but you know that there was like a jar head moment where one of those B-52 pilots got the (beep) and called and was like, damn it. I've trained for this for years. This is all I wanted to do. - Oh, 100%. - I'm just edging. - Yeah. - It's like, oh, now I got blue bombs. 'Cause I mean, I imagine that it's probably been a while since one of them's run a combat mission. - If ever. - Or they use, who dropped their new pilots? - No, I just mean B-52s in general. - Oh, yeah. - 'Cause who dropped the Moab or what plane dropped? - Moab was C-130. - Yeah, so B-52 probably hasn't been used in-- - B-52s could use all the fucking time, I mean. Any bombing campaign is, the workhorse is the B-52. Like if we're doing any heavy bombing, it's B-52s. - That's true, I guess I, 'cause we never did, I mean, in Iraq during the G-Wat, the search there was no just dropping bombs anywhere 'cause it's civilian population and you're just hearts and minds inside the little city of Baghdad or wherever you are and you're just going door to door. So we never got to, I mean, I've told the story, the few times we got to drop a J-Damn. Everyone's watching through a grass but it wasn't. - The last use of a B-52 in combat that we know of was 2024 against the Houthis in the Emirates. But that's what I mean. Like any mass air strike bombing, like they're bringing in B-52s. Like B-1 is meant for slightly hostile air. 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(laughing) - And they're telling me I can't have carry on more than 50 pounds. - Why, holy shit. - I wanna say it's 180,000 pounds of ordinance they can carry double checking right now. - That's a lot. - Sorry, 70,000. Still, 70,000 pounds of bombs on a plane. - It's like a hundred vet checks. - Were you on a conversation when we were talking about-- (laughing) - Sorry. - The World War I footage of just mortars getting dropped during the Battle of Verdun. They have footage of it. I'm not sure if I sent it to you. We were talking about, I can't remember with who, but do you know how many mortars were dropped in that 10 month period of time? Mortars and heavy ordinance? - The, I believe it was a Battle of Verdun. The opening scene in the movie The Kingsman, where they have the recap of World War I, where it's just dudes standing on mountains of empty mortar shells. That's based off of the Battle of Verdun. I mean, it was, as soon as they're done in the factory, put 'em on a truck and get 'em to the front line. They were just firing everything they had constantly. It was insane. - You know how many shells they shoot? - No. - 70 million. - Yeah. - And then the footage is, they have footage of it and you're just seeing round after round. There is no pause. It is every second, half a second. Something's hitting and exploding. It's fucking wild to watch. - Fun story, you're talking about how, as soon as they were off the factory floor, they went in a truck and went to the front lines and were fired immediately in Stalingrad during World War II on the Russian side. There's stories of it not even getting that far because they were literally coming up. The German lines had gotten so close to the factory that when they were rolling out the new PPSHs, they were test firing them out the window at the German lines. - Yeah, I mean, their story is same thing. Stalingrad, like, German or Russian tanks rolling off the assembly, like open the garage door and drive the new tank directly into battle. Like, it's crazy. - I didn't know about that. - It was gnarly, 'cause I mean, it's a major city. - Oh yeah, I mean, that was that was 40 million. Lost during. - No, it was not. - It was not. - It was not. - Total Russians were like 20 to 40 million. Lost during World War II, right? - I don't know. - I wanna say it's 20 to 40 million. - Let me see. - We do a lot. Nick is our historian, so we learned a lot. - That's cool. - Yeah, that's cool, man. - That's my way of life. - I love that. - I love that. - Ask questions. - Russian deaths, Soviet citizens estimated between 24 and 27 million. - Wow. - That's just city's gone instantly of population. - Yeah, this total includes approximately 8.7 to 10.7 million military personnel. - That's like twice the population in California. And then California's like 10 million. - I think it's way higher than that, isn't it? - Oh, let's check it. So much. - Cali. - That was 10 million, was it? - Also randomly, I was just looking it up. - California population is 39 million. - 39 million. - No, it's just shit. - Give you guys an idea how big California counties are. California is significantly bigger than Iowa. Iowa has 99 counties. California has 56. The counties in California are fucking massive compared to most other states. Like being a sheriff in California is like a big deal. You're in charge of a lot of territory. - Yeah, it sounds like a fucking pain in the ass. - Why are you still in California? - Good question. - It's a good question. - I think it's because my parents are buried there. My friends are there and my kids are there. - That makes a lot of sense. - Where am I going to go, man? - Texas. - Yeah? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Are you told you to keep in the US, dude? - I know, but then like. - I don't know, man. I just feel like I'm running then, you know? - Yeah, I got you. - I feel like California is a shit hole, but it can be better. - Yeah. - No, this is beautiful. - It is. - Every time we go there, we talk about how wonderful it is. - San Diego. - The worst part about nice weather. - In Korea? - Indian, it's love, nice weather. - We have a word in Korean. It's called kooyang, which means hometown. When you ask them, like, hey, where's your hometown? Where was your kooyang, you know? Oh, I'm from here, I'm from there. So I see California, LA as my kooyang, as my hometown. - Gotcha. - Where I'm from and that's where my roots are, you know? - It sucks and do some shit all over. - It does suck. You know, but hopefully that'll change in November. I know you got big things happening for you in November as well, so hopefully we'll see it at turn. And I think culturally, we're at that point, we're swinging the other way. You know, we're swinging more to the right and hope so. - You have kids, like, you have a younger ex. I do have kids too, like, but the 17, 18, 19 year old, these kids, they're different than the millennials. - Yeah, and they're like, they're saying, like all the studies and stuff. It's the first generation to be more conservative than their parents. - You should hear them on Discord. - Like, you should hear them on Discord. Like, even my kids, like, the way they talk. Like, they have no filter. - Oh, no, I hear my son on Discord. - Yeah. - I see what he likes on Instagram. - Yeah. - I think so. - I think so. - Dear God, John, yeah, keep trying to tell my son. - Yeah, I keep trying to tell John that, like, people can see what you like on Instagram, a little man, like, you can't keep liking these posts. - Okay. - You know what, dude, just really quick. - Yeah. - There's Los Angeles. - That's a city. - Yeah, there's the city, right there. So then you have Burbank, West Hollywood. This is LA County. - Yeah, that's LA County. - It is that entire. - It's big. - There. - Everything. - Yeah. - So in '92, that's what was being ride it on. - Yeah. - Like all those different cities. - Do you know what ended up happening to Rodney King? - Well, he got a settlement. And then-- - He got a $3.8 million settlement. - Yeah. - You know what happened? - He drowned. - In his own-- - Two years later, he drowned in his own swimming pool. And then his toxicology was, you had PCP cocaine and he was drinking at the time. - Yeah, PCP when he was running from the cops. - Yeah, same thing. - LA County. - So that score of tax money went to do that. - LA County is 4,700 square miles. The state of Rhode Island is 1,500 square miles. LA County is bigger than some states. - Yeah. - You have multiple airports inside this county. Multiple and not small airports. Burbank. - Ontario. - Long Beach, Ontario. - Los Angeles. - LAX, yeah. - So I mean, riots covering the whole counties. - It's a whole state. - Yeah, it was all time. - 92 was organic. I mean, everything after was just been funded. But 92 was organic. - That's crazy. - And then going back to that picture that we were looking at the magazine, David Jew, that store, yeah, it's been 30 years, but he was actually giving away firearms that week. - So he had Korean owners that came like, "Hey, like we need to buy something." And you know, you have the whole background like, "Fuck that, here, just take this, take this pistol, "take some ammo, bring it back when everything dies down." So there's kind of an honor system that went down too where he was giving away guns and then they came back. - One of the few situations where loaning out guns, - Yeah, he was giving out guns. - He was probably getting used, probably increased the value. - Yeah. - At least if you sat on it for 30 years and you could prove. - Which is wild 'cause then I wonder if that helped some of the laws that went into an effect later where you can't even loan. - I don't know if California has those. I know they've got them in some of the Pacific Northwest states. - Well, that's what I'm saying. I wonder if it had any connection down the road. You're like, "Well, they handed it out, "so we need a rule so they can't do that any." - I mean, that was even before the Brady Bill. If I'm not mistaken, 92. So they didn't even have federal next checks. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like none of those, but then they look back Washington state You can't like I can't even give you one of my rifles Yeah, the will the example that's used a lot is I think it's an Oregon Might be Washington, but I think it's Oregon where they said it they got so strict with that you know transfer What is a transfer that if me and you go hunting and we're traveling over this you know barbed wire fence? You know cutting through a property If I go hey, here grab this for me real quick while I go over this fence. You've just committed a felony There's Seattle's Washington state has that was a Washington. Okay. I knew it's somewhere in Pacific Northwest That's so stupid. Oh, we we couldn't even do a film. We were trying to film something with a gun, but It was the gun we wanted to use for the skit was our buddy's fathers Rule it just pasties are I can't let you guys use it for filming. It's like why it's a legal now. It's an actual crime Yeah Music here nope no go now and Virginia is getting close. I mean they're they have like a they had a full like blue sweep of their There's their state delegation. You guys notice that that there's seems to be kind of a wave that's coming for this for them I mean for Virginia. It's been happening for a while It's been a slow creep as DC just floods and floods and floods into down into Alexandria and all the areas of of Northern Virginia It's just getting progressively worse all these federal employees. Yeah. What are the new the Virginia rules? They just enacted that like the past month, right? They're trying to get it through So there's the state senator who was born in Bangladesh like he's not even American comes the United States and puts forward probably in my opinion probably one of the most egregious anti-gun loss I know it is. Yeah, I know you tell my own and he's yeah, some state senator and it's I mean it basically is just a blanket ban on semi-automatic firearms. Yeah, well, yeah, well when my book comes out I'm hoping it to propel that into me it to me talking about first day and second A But also from a perspective not actual not just legal gun ownership But some of the stuff that happens on the legal side too. Yeah, so once the book comes out I'll be able to elaborate more on that. Sure. You said first day and second day First and second amendment. Yeah, first. Oh first. Oh, first day First day second. Yeah, so I'll be talking about like, you know, two A for a state and I'm kind of tweeting about that now You know because I think there's a lot more restrictions are coming for some of the other states I mean they're trying to California or not is like all the other states. I mean just came for Colorado. They just passed a pretty Pretty egregious bond gun bands coming for Virginia like it's I mean Texas is going the opposite direction Thankfully like we've we had a pretty good pro gun State legislature this this cycle and I'm hoping to have a better one next better. You know what I hate next Leaving money on the table. 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I think it was I think it was helmet laws where it was impeding you're right to freely travel because each county had their own rule Right and like no you can't do that because if I'm driving across my own state You know in your case in South Carolina Like if I'm driving across my own state and I have to keep stopping and checking the rules and checking the laws every county County Like it's an unrealistic Impeding it's unrealistically impeding on my my right to travel Right which is hilarious for you to bring up because you a don't wear a helmet when you're driving your motorcycle I don't think this does not have a helmet. You wear flip-flops while you're driving your motorcycle. Smart man I do enjoy the name of like nothing nothing quite like getting a seatbelt ticket from a cop on a motorcycle like you start to realize It's not about safety. It's always about control and revenue generation in their case But I'll be talking about that once it becomes out. I'll be more vocal. Yeah talking about 2 a First day and looking forward to seeing I'm pushing back on some of this stuff in California Doing what Brandon's doing Not enough to not run for office, but still trying to make a change If I was doing that long before politics and I'll do it long after but Yeah, everyone should get involved. I mean, everyone should know what's going on with the country I mean, I do what I do because I owe a debt of gratitude to this country. You know, I mean It's given me my life my livelihood my my children my family my future so You know way I feel obligated you not to do what I do you know and I think if we don't within a couple of generations I mean you're gonna have kids are not gonna remember like anything in terms of the first amendment second amendment I in fact when I was coming here on the plane ride I talked to some 18-year-old kid. It was Considering going to music school at USC, which was my alma mater So we had a long conversation and talking about the first and second amendment Yeah, no idea that the second amendment was basically to stop against government tyranny not just for protecting against you know people You know, you know looters robbers, whatever, you know, but against the government against tyranny You know, and that's what it was and he was surprised to hear that and I was surprised to hear him say that he wasn't even aware of that You know the comparison the comparison that I use all the time is you know when the in the time that the second amendment was written The founding fathers didn't just finish up winning a war against deer. Yeah No, absolutely like this was yeah, they very intentionally put there. Yeah, they actually had British troops station inside homes at 1.2 You know, so I think it's important to talk about this now sooner than later because I think with this new generation of kids are coming up I mean I think the timing is gonna be right to talk about a lot of things that are conservative like guns First amendment, you know just freedom of speech stuff like that with this next generation that's coming up from what I'm saying There's a lot of that that I Especially with with you the the younger crowd. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of people that are you know Eager to bitch and talk about everything that's wrong with this country and stuff like that and then like you have the ability to do that If you don't agree with the direction of your government. Of course, that's yeah literally what the first amendment is there But there's not a lot of people I especially like in public schooling ironically enough That there's not a lot of people that are being told or not enough people Being told what makes this country so unique and so great all the things that are afforded to us that they don't have even in other Western countries like Europe I mean the ability to not go to prison for a Facebook page that somebody disagrees with like that's And you know, we've we've got to stay vigilant on that in the United States because if we don't continue to Hold those those values that can erode man. We've seen that start right yeah, and it starts with the education system too I mean we don't teach us history anymore like we used to or civics. We don't have safest class anymore You know and that is or anything. I want Nick style jingoism taught in every classroom across America Put me on TV put me on PBS. Yeah, yeah We need we need a balance in our education system because right now like in public schools You got a lot of leftist and lefty ideas Marxism that's happening and they get indoctrinated in junior high high school And then they go into colleges and you got these college professors that are old like my I am and they're telling these kids What you know, this is what it is. This is how socialism is and they think it's gospel You know, but whereas because they don't have anybody at the university Here's how the real world works kids coming from the guy who's never had a job outside of academia right? No care. It's either I was sent to kindergarten and I haven't left school since but let me tell you how the real world works Those who can do So I would love to go on college campuses and debate some of these professors College professors are so hard to get to debate you. Yeah, they don't do it. Yeah They cannot rely on anything. I have a degree. I don't give a fuck make it makes sense Address the point What is it the fallacy argument by authority? Yeah Appeal to authority. Yeah Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip No tightness, no stickiness, no residue Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York Maybe it's Maybelline No man, Nick Angie. I don't like him - Nick Love, Socialism and Communism. - It's a huge fan. - It's a huge fan, it's what he's known for. - Yeah, I can't believe this is all resurfacing again. I mean, this was during my grandfather's time when he talked about what happened during the Korean War and how that war started and what he did as, you know, with his family, they had to escape to the South because the North was actually, they had him on a list and they were gonna, they were gonna kill him. So he had to, you know, take his family and you know, take our family, you know, from my mother's side and move to the South. And they had a, like, flee. So he, you know, I hear stories like this growing up as a kid and then now I'm about my grandfather's hatred. I'm getting there, you know, and now I'm living this again, right? But now instead of a story, you know, being told, I'm actually fucking living the experience. Like, you know, while watching the resurgence of Socialism, Marxism, Communism. - It's okay, this time they'll do it right. - I'm sure they will. - They'll do it right this time, Tony. This time, they gotta say it now. (laughing) - That wasn't real Communism. We should let me try. - Me and Connor were joking about something a couple days ago and we were talking about, like, there was something that was like, monopoly being like anti-capitalist sentiment when it was first made. Like, to be fair to them, back then Communism truly had not been tried, probably sounded pretty good on paper. Like, to have that view in 2026, it's like, well, it was tried in a bunch of places. One side had food, the other fucking didn't. So, like, I don't understand how this is still a conversation. - Every argument just seems to devolve to, hey, when the wall fell, who ran which direction? - Oh, what else do you wanna talk about? - Really, really cool factoid, talking about the Berlin Wall. In the Main Street, I think is what it's called, Main Street Casino in Las Vegas. They have a giant chunk of the Berlin Wall. And when I say giant chunk, I mean, several feet, like, huge chunk of the Berlin Wall, in the Men's Bathroom and you can piss on it. - Oh, what? - Yeah, I have pissed on the Berlin Wall. - Yes, it's cool, we need to go next time. - I did a video where I highlighted just some of the craziest ways that people escaped East Germany. It was, like, some of the shit people did was crazy. - Motorbikes. - Motorbikes, there were people that were taken gas tanks out of cars and just having like a gallon of gas, just enough gas to drive in, pick somebody up, they would strap 'em where the gas tank was and then drive out. There was one family, somebody actually made a kid's book about it, I bought it for my kids, but it was two families created a business so they could justify getting a bunch of fabric. And then over the course of two years, they skimmed enough fabric from running this business to build a hot air balloon and they custom made a hot air balloon and flew a hot air balloon. - Successfully. - Successfully made it to West Germany to escape. - I read about that. - It's like, you're not gonna sit here and tell me that communism is better. When two fathers said the best thing for my family to do is to get inside of a homemade, wicker basket propelled by a flame thrower and try to escape this shit hole. You're not gonna tell me that's the better option at the two, I'm sorry, go fuck yourself. - So funny enough, so Oma, right? My grandmother, she was a German civilian during World War II, grew up under the Nazis and then later on through the American occupation essentially of Germany. They apparently, she had relatives that were in East Germany and they were apparently affluent or they were politically connected in some degree or another. And they had Mercedes-Benz, they had, they were pretty well to do and they were writing letters basically saying, oh, you should come over here, like this is, we'll take care of you 'cause they knew that rebuilding of Germany like it wasn't going so good for them for the immediate future. And they're like, oh, you should come over here and we got plenty, we can take care of you essentially and they decided not to because they're like, if we go over there, we can't come back. - Yeah, like there's, you can always go in but you can't leave. And it ended up being the correct call. - Some of the stuff they did to keep people in was crazy 'cause like, originally there wasn't like the wall and everything, like it wasn't there but they had, they called it the brain drain where it was just like everybody that got degrees and everything would immediately go to the west 'cause it was better. And then like we can't keep letting this happen so they put the walls up and then people were obviously escaping and then it got to the point where the wall, it was the wall and then on the other side of it there was a 15 foot wide sand pit. And then the sand pit wasn't to like stop or slow people down. It was to get the garden trouble because then they knew they'd go by and check every morning that, oh, if your sector has fucking footprints through the sand you let somebody through and didn't shoot them. Either show me the body or we're taking it out on you. - Yeah. - Like, it's diabolical. - Yeah. - Can they have, like mines, razor wire towards the end? - I don't know about mines, I know they had razor wire. They have crazy defenses. They had a underground directory of people's underwear. That was wild. - Like what? - Yeah. Yeah, the Soviets would, if you were a person that they deemed was likely to run away they would go to your house and confiscate your fucking underwear and they would put it in a jar and label it. And then if you did escape they had your fucking scent to give the dogs. - That sounds like some track your ass wound. - I would believe the Japanese would do. - That's wild. - Yeah, when the wall fell and they went into like all the Stasi, the East German secret police, like they had just had rooms full of jars of people's underwear that they were gonna fucking track your ass down with. - Yeah, it's for track of you. - Yeah. - It's just a random dude as a kink. - It's just smelling balls at a camp. - What the fuck? - That's only fun. - Did your dad come, where was your, are your great grandfather? - My grandfather. - Okay, grandfather. Was it North, South? - Yeah, he was up in the North. - No shit. - And then he ended up living in the South. So in Puson, which is the port city. But he was up in the North. - Your grandfather fought in the Korean War? - No, he actually, he didn't. - Okay. - So their grandfather fought each other, dude, I'm sorry. - Oh no, he didn't. - So he was in Puson during, when it was the Puson parameter, when they were pushed all the way down the peninsula. - Yeah. - And he was stuck there whole. - So he basically, he had, when he escaped and went south, that's where he ended up. - That's where everybody had it. - Yeah, and that's where he just pushed all the way down. - Yeah, he ended up just staying there. He bought a farm and just lived there and then, and after that he sold the farm in Kimto, America. - No, so what time, what year? - Let me think, it was like 80, 84, I think it 85 before. My mom passed away in '87, so I came a couple of years before that, a few years, so like 84 on there, I think. - And you were born in Germany? - Uh-huh, for that, so how did that happen? - So what happened was, after the Korean War, there was an agreement made between the West German government and the South Korean government, where they would send aid package financial aid, and turn the South Korean government and would send the young men, strong able-bodying men to work in the coal mines in West Germany. - No shit. - And then the women, like they send, were, became nurses, so they were all nurses, so that's how my parents met in Germany. Working, my father was working in the coal mine, my mom was a nurse and they met, and then I was, from what I'm told, I'm actually the first one that was born in Germany, like, that's what, other people have told me, 'cause I'm like the oldest, out of everyone that was born in Germany or in Europe at that time, 'cause we went back in like '97, so in August, there was a huge gathering of Koreans, like either in Germany or in the Netherlands, where they celebrate, I forget the dates in August, but it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the Independence Day when they were liberated by the Japanese, from the Japanese, right? So they celebrate that, it's in August, so all the Koreans get together and they hang out and they'll barbecue, cook pork, right? Barbecue, and then I met some of the other guys who were close to my age, but I was actually the oldest out of all of them, they're like, you're probably the first one that was born in Germany, you know? From all the people that immigrated there, you know, that were part of that work visa. - That's great. - So yeah, that was a while, but what was your grandfather, did he tell you any stories of that escape or your journey? - Well, see, my grandfather's really, he was kind of a gregarious guy, he spoke to a lot of people, so he kind of came like the de facto, like mayor, like, you know, so, so when they had the list, the North Koreans had a list, his name was on there, including his brothers, just because he was influential. - Yeah, because he knew a lot of people, he was influential, and he can sway people the way he would talk and stuff, so he actually escaped into the hills and like, he'd hit out in the caves, and then one of his brothers got caught, and then they were actually thrown into kill 'em, so they had to come down from the caves, and basically, you know, live under the North Korean, you know, rule that was there at the time, and in a way for them to extract information from him, is they would take 'em out into the field late in the evening, telling 'em that they were gonna shoot 'em, unless they gave 'em certain information, so he'd go out, you know, certain evenings, they'd take 'em out, and, you know, he'd have to talk to 'em and stuff, and they'd bring 'em back, and he'd tell me one evening that he went out, and he had a weird feeling, 'cause the guards were different, they were acting different, so he felt like this was it. And as at that moment, when they were in the rice fields, and, you know, he felt like this was gonna be the moment, is when, like, US Army choppers flew overhead, So that's when these guys got spooked and they took off. and he was able to go get his family. That's the evening that he took off and he went through the South. - Holy shit. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Damn. Connor, do you know what Ridge Wallet makes now? - No, I wonder they make. - Oh, no, I don't. What do they make? - Keep it that. - Anyway, Ridge Wallet is branching out. This is actually really cool for me because I'm a f*cking idiot and I managed to break the USB-C adapter or the plug-in on my cell phone. And I've only been able to charge with power banks for the last four months. Pay no mind to the four rectal use only sticker or the anime girl. (laughs) And look, it's charging. Or if your USB-C actually works on like Brandon's, they have the cable you can plug it in and apple on. 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And even if that's not where you heard about them, lie. - Unsubsyn's, it's regards. It's also a lie, just your brother gets captured and then it is, well now you have to come out to save his life and hopefully save his life. - No. - And they're going to stick to their word. - Right. - And now his grandson live long enough to see a bunch of people on Twitter argue that North Korea is actually better than South Korea. - Yeah. - Fascinating. - That's weird, 'cause at nighttime via satellite photos, I can see one of the videos. - That's all made up. It's all propaganda, Brandon. - North Korea is-- - It's all made up. Kim Jong-Un actually did invent the Brida. - Big candle enthusiast's up there. - He doesn't shit. (laughing) - His body's too efficient. - Is that a real thing? - Yes, 18 hole-in-ones, 27 under par, first time you ever golfed. - See, that just sounds cartoonish. Like, I'm willing to believe that it's real, but I'm trying to put myself in the mindset of somebody who believes that. - Everything in North Korea is kind of cartoonish. - Right, let me put a gun to your head. - Yeah, you'll believe anything. - It's the enthusiast's classic. - Yeah, it's purple. I just saw a recent video where these IT guys are hiring like Koreans, right? - I saw this. - You saw that? - Yeah. So basically, they're trying to filter out North Koreans, 'cause they're trying to get these IT jobs. So one of the things they have 'em do is like, okay, well, can you just for the camera tell me that Kim Jong-un is a big fat pig? And the guy is like, you could tell he's just paused and he couldn't fear like, do I say it? Do I not say it? And he's like, boop, and he just disconnects a call. - He knows what I'm talking about, he's like, yeah. - I've seen it. He's straight like, 'cause they won't speak out. - He won't say it, yeah, it's illegal to-- - Yeah, yeah. - And you have, I mean, we gotta see it in Iraq. People still had Saddam pictures up on their wall. - And this is well, and this is like Saddam, I've been hung at this point. Nope, they won't take it down, 'cause he'll come back and kill 'em. - Yeah, it's that mentality. Yeah, it's real through fear. - That's exactly what it, from a childhood, you're just fed. - Yeah, that's why in the video, when they're out, telling him, hey, say that Kim Jong-un is a big fat pig. Like, I just froze, he couldn't say anything. 'Cause he's, he's, he's, yeah, he's thinking like, shit, do I say it or don't say it and just, so he just disconnected the call. - There was one that I got. I like, with like the Chinese scammers, 'cause you could pretty quickly tell. - Yeah. - There was one, I can't remember if it was like, it was, they were soliciting like, hey, would you like to get like custom like toys or Legos or something like that? Like, of your brand, Legos, and I said, you know, I've replied, 'cause normally I just, you know, block it or ignore it or whatever. I don't know, I was feeling froggy that day. I was like, yes, I'd actually love to. Can I get a custom Lego set of the Tiananmen Square Massacre? - No response. - Red, yep, like. - Well, it was shot, huh. - Damn, who was your grandpa after the war ended? What was their perspective of watching it all unfold? Like, oh, I made the right decision, obviously. - Yeah, I mean, he always, he hated commies after that. He said, he, he called them, we called them, well, we still call them here, right? But in Korea, they call it Baigang, which is like Reddies, Reds. So we call them Reds in Korea. So he's always had animosity towards them. More so than the Japanese. - When you say it in Korean, it does sound like a slur. - Yeah. - I mean, I like it. - The thing is right now in South Korea, it's like they're kind of going more towards the left, you know, and it's because of feminism, because it's a lot of the women that are pushing it, because of all the whole feminism movement that happened in Korea. So they're basically trying to push that. And because of that, it's becoming very leftist. And what's interesting is that Korea is actually run by large, powerful families called Chibles. These are guys that basically Samsung, Hyundai, LG, those companies, right? Those families pretty much run Korea. - It's 60, I want to say it's like 60% of the GDP. - It's a big number. - Families. - Yeah. - And none of these families are saying anything about what's going on politically, culturally. How do you say Rothschilds in Korean? (laughing) - A lot of people don't know that. - They control. - Rothschilds. (laughing) - You gotta get it. - You gotta get it. - You gotta get it. - You gotta get it. (laughing) - Rothschilds. - Rothschilds. - Rothschilds. - Taking me back to a Christmas story. (laughing) (laughing) - All wrong, all wrong, all wrong. (laughing) - But that's a crazy amount. 60% of the GDP with like a handful of families. - Yeah. - And those families aren't saying shit about what's going on. - Those families, they marry within each other too. Like, it is a weird class system at that level. - And that's why it's powerful. - And that's why I end up down the line being a little fucked up. (laughing) - Oh, it never has. - Or is it in the human history? - Yeah, I end up with England or something. - Yeah. - In the fucking family tree. - It looks like a telephone pole. - Yup. - That's fucking crazy. - Yeah, it's wild. But yeah, that's why, because of that, I mean, I don't have a preference towards socialism, capitalism. I think any sort of ism, it's basically what it is. You've got a small minor group of people that are in control, and they'll use whatever ism to keep everyone else in control. And I feel like so far capitalism is probably the best because it allows you to basically start a business, do things, right? It's only when it becomes monopolized by huge companies, which is where you have the delineation, I think, between capitalism and corporatism. - Right. - Exactly. But any sort of ism is usually punctuated with powerful families that are gonna be in control on top, and they don't care whatever the ism is, as long as they're still in power. And that's what South Korea is. And essentially, that's North Korea, too. 'Cause in North Korea, you have powerful families that they're not part of that hierarchy. They're just way up there. 'Cause they probably came up with the regime, or like in South Korea, they're part of a large family. So in North Korea, those powerful families, are they de facto affiliated with the government? - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, a lot of them are, because-- - North Korea, I know. - Yeah, that is the family. - Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. They were saying affluent families in North Korea. I'm like, okay, that's all interesting. - This is just human behavior. I mean, like you take any country you'll have families that are kind of like in the political space, or within the halls of power is what I say. They're close enough to it where they're not affected by the rules of whatever ism that they're living under. So like North Korea is a good example, where it's very segregated according to class. So you have your own social circles, you don't move up or down from that. - And you're locked in. - Yeah, you're pretty locked in. - It's still crazy to the rule of, was it the three generation for a crime? Like, oh, you fucked up Brandon, your grandkids will also pay that toll. - Yeah, and we're gonna get your parents to, in your own clothes, and we're just gonna get everybody that you're connected with. - And that's pretty much what it is. - So you won't escape or attempt, because the second you attempt, now it's, oh, if I escape North Korea my entire family's going to be killed. - Speaking of, that's something I'd really like, I know we've talked about this a little bit before, but I would love to get one of those North Korean refugees or North Korean escapees on the podcast. I feel like that would be-- - Shout out to Ena, we're trying to make it happen. She doesn't speak the best English right now, but she escaped with her sister. And she's actually an Austrian right now. - No, no shit. - She, again, she's like, I don't know. We have to find somebody that can speak Korean. That's why I asked, I was like, oh shit, how fluent? And you're like, ah, I think better Spanish than the Korean. Shout out to MLA. - Did you ever find that Cuban pilot that I want on? - Do you like try to reach out? - I want him on so bad. - I don't have a message in him, but I have a good God. - Damn it, I want him on so bad. - He was in violent? - I think his name's Ornesta's Perez. - Well, the one who defected? - Yeah, the one that defected flew a mig into Florida, landed it on a US air strip, and escaped, and turned the mig over to the American government. They gave him citizenship. And then he had. - This is in the 80s, right? - Yeah. - And then he had a Catholic nun smuggle a letter into his wife and kids, like be on this country road out in the boonies at this date at this time. ja olen Seanan Maldonado. 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There's some good skits in that one. What else? So now you do also martial arts. You're big into MMA. Yeah, I did a big into water bottle. You know, it depends. Podcasts with Jake. Jake Shield. That was cool. I had a good time with that. Oh, no shit. Yeah. And then I did podcasts with Miller, me and Miller from bully beat down. Yeah, he's a cool guy. And we had a good time doing that. But yeah, I do MMA. It's a bunch of those MMA guys that podcasts now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's where everybody's kind of going, right? Doing podcasts and whatnot. So it is a very, a lot of people do it now. It is crazy. How many podcasts are out there? Microphones are cheap. Yeah. What does the meme of like with all the podcasts popping up? It's like, I truly believe there should be higher restrictions and background checks on buying a podcast microphone that I've got. Well, how long have you been doing martial arts or what? Yeah, since I was like seven, which one? Yeah. I did Tequendo. I did Moitai. I did Wing Chung. I don't know if it's more about that. That's Bruce Lee. Yeah. I did. I do Kali, a screamer, which is the Filipino martial art. It's the one where you said it's a the stick stick delayed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's grappling. I mean, was that what Rambo did in the beginning of Rambo through? Yeah, that's Kali. Okay. Yeah. Or a screamer. Depends. Yeah. I don't even know where the two things. Yeah. Yeah. He's like doing the little cage fighting. Yeah, the two sticks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's Filipino martial arts. Mm. Like Taekwondo's Korean. Yeah. Like Pabry Elchon. I remember that way back in the day. It's your people. No. Filipino. Filipino. But Korean is Taekwondo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Koreans look down Filipino. Yeah. Yeah. They do. No, I don't. But no, that's they do skin turns to metal. You're on one close enough. No, but no, there's an Asia. There's like, you know, like East Asians, like Chinese Japanese Koreans, they kind of formed their own. They're like, okay, we're East Asians. They look down on everybody else, not all of us, but some of them do. And there is this whole thing. And I think it was between South Koreans and some, some people from like I think it was like Malaysia, Indonesia, because there was a K-pop concert and some Korean photographers were taking pictures and stuff and they were in the way and they were telling them, like, Hey, you're in the way and they're like, fuck you shut up. You know, Korean photographers. Yeah. Because they were taking like, you know, K-pop videos, right? Are you shooting photographers or whatever? No, Asian photographers. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't know they had those. So there was this whole beef between the two, like Southeast Asians and East Asians. I mean, it's retarded, but whatever, you know, that's what spurred it. I guess that's what spurred. Yeah. I mean, I didn't dig too deep into it because I just, like, it's just whatever. But it was kind of like someone got offended because of the photographer and then there's this whole beef between the Southeast Asians and Asians and East Asians and, yeah, I try to stay away from that stuff. Asians are. Very racist against each other. But in my book, pretty much everybody actually. Yeah. Only white people are racist. No, I'm sure. Yeah. Dude, I'm super racist. It's the, thank you for saying that in frame with me and appreciate it. It was like the Bobby Lee thing where he talked about the, the, the Koreans and he's just like, Oh, yeah. Well, like, you white people, you're the ones, you know, you had slaves. Like, Koreans never had slaves. They, they, they Googled it and it's like, yeah, Korea had the longest unbroken chain of slavery in the world history. You know, it's interesting because we all look alike in Korea, right? I mean, I'm, right? We all look alike. You can say it. Yeah. I can say it. All right. Cody, you know, say it. No, you guys just trying to use this entire time. We can all say it. But I'm just saying, like, in Korea, the reason the way you distinguish someone from a slave class or from, it was by the last name. So if you had a particular last name, that's how they would denote you as from the slave class. If you had another last name, you're like a aristocratic class or the merchant class or whatever. So it was very common to have certain slave names that were like, you know, prevalent in Korea. I don't know. And is there still like any trickle down to like modern day where it's still like frowned upon to have that? No, not really. I mean, maybe 30 years ago, my dad's time a little bit, you know, it's still fucking easy. That's very easy. But yeah, Korea has slaves for a long time. God damn. Yeah. We'll got you into martial arts out the gate. Oh, I got into a lot of fights as a kid. So my dad was like, here, you want to go learn something, you know? And plus I grew up in a largely Hispanic Mexican neighborhood because my dad owned a store in Boyle Heights, which is like the armpit of East LA. Go learn a screamer. Yeah. So yeah. So once he got that store, I was fighting pretty much every kid for two years, like every other kid for at least a couple of years. So that kind of ties into what I was going to ask about earlier because you'd kind of implied you're like, I knew how the police operated. Like I knew a lot of stuff about the police because of the things I did beforehand. It didn't seem like you were implying you were part of the junior police association. I wasn't. Okay. I mean, what's the, when the book comes out, it'll, it'll outline a lot of stuff. But yeah, it's just like those are 90s. I mean, you guys GTA five San Andreas, like I was built, you know, it was about the 90s. Yeah, it was 90s. So yeah, everyone was involved with something, you know? I mean, LAPD, like 98 rampart, you know, that, you know, they were LAPD at that time was very different than LAPD now. And you had guys that were in the academy in the 60s and 70s that were in the 4th and 80s and 90s. And they had a whole different mindset in terms of how they dealt with, you know, just the public, especially like a lot of the street gangs that were out at that time. You know, so when the, when the riots happened, I mean, it was, it was wild because every few blocks you had a squad car, you know, you had a heavy LAPD presence in the 90s at that time. And then when the riots happened, you had no presence at all. How long did that no presence? That's also a wild thought process where just no, no one's going to help you other than the community. Easily for about three, four days. National guard, National guard came on the weekend. They came on Saturday. So from about, there is, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, maybe even part of Saturday. And there was like no police presence. One of my favorite stories is when they, they were getting the Marine Corps ready to go in for the LA riots. I know this story. They were, they were training. It was a training incident. So nothing actually bad happened. But they were training the Marines that were trained to riot control to cooperate with the police force. And there's some cultural differences between the two. And during a fire exercise, some of the police officers instructed the Marines to cover me. Oh, at which point the Marines said copy and then proceed to light that bitch the fuck up because cover me to a Marine and cover me to a police officer are two different things. So it's just a story of like, let's not open up with the saw. If I say cover me, we need to come up with a different term. What the fuck did they mean with cover me? Just watch. Yeah. Just override. I don't know, but it wasn't get the 240 up. Well, make the machine good talk. I would say, yeah, that's a pretty severe cultural difference. Cody, when would you say cover me as a police officer? No, it's the same exact thing. They watch someone with a firearm. Watch not fire. Yeah, no, no, I never said cover me. I was wondering about that which is like, hey, watch my six or something like that. Like, yeah, we wouldn't be laid down in direct fire. I'm a good old tomorrow. So with that, how was the evening with just no police presence? I'm just trying to, it says little things. I don't think people think about. It's like at night when you're still sleeping. Chaos is happening all around. Yeah. So you're just watching. Gunshots are going off constantly, like during that week. Do you have a parent or a family member just staying up watching the house just to make sure it stays secure? Were you like, oh, we're safe because we're in a neighborhood. Yeah, we're safe. We're in a neighborhood. It's mainly the commercial retail areas that were affected. So a lot of like liquor stores. In my book, I talk about this place called Fregex of Hollywood Laundry Place. I got broken into stealing Laundry during this time. I mean, it's just chaotic. I mean, just people, if there's an opening to go into a store to take shit, like, that's what they were going to do. And it had nothing to do with like, you know, being upset about Rodney King. It was just an opportunity, you know, because there's no more social order, no police presence. You're left to your own devices. You can do whatever you want. So people kind of lose their mind and do shit that they normally wouldn't do. And that's what I saw that week. You know, people, people going into like a liquor store coming out with bottles and you look at them, they just look like regular people. I mean, you wouldn't think that they're transients or anything. I just look like the guy who lives up the street. So when you have that order breakdown, then people pretty much, they go on their own instinct, their own whims, whatever they want to do. And I think that's where the shooting was in Koreatown. It's because you had a group of immigrant, young immigrant men that were basically coming from a place where they just went through a civil war in El Salvador. So they have a different mentality coming into LA. And then when they see there's no order or police, I mean, they're pretty much going to do whatever they want to do. - Yeah, especially in El Salvador at that time, you had MS-13, cell phone, that would kill you for a cell phone. And they value human life completely different than a first world country. So chaos is happening, I can kill these people. I'm not worried about, I might get in trouble and have what I want. - And these guys that came in from El Salvador MS, they changed the landscape in terms of gang warfare in the '90s because they didn't give a fuck. Now, they were shooting at cops, LAPD. - Oh, like, that's-- - Definitely shooting at cops. - This was like unheard of back then. This is why LAPD kind of got heavy handed as well during that time too. - Could you imagine an experience that? You're the Leo here, imagine going through that shit. - Oh, we would be taking people's shoes and throwing them in the fucking storm drains, dude. (laughing) - What's that? - I was like, what does that mean? Like, break that down for a man like I said. - If your homeboys want to shoot at us, if we pull you over for a simple traffic thing and we know you're related to these guys, we're gonna take your Jordans and we're gonna throw 'em in a fucking storm drain. - No shit. - Like, we're gonna be mean to you. You wanna be mean to us? We're gonna be mean to you about-- - Yes, that's cool. - It's a respect thing. We know you're doing your game. We're gonna do our game. But if you fucking wanna escalate situations, we're gonna be very, very mean to you. - That's just like a no-win situation 'cause it's all just, and then everyone's just smacked up in the middle, like, cool, this fucking great. What was the thing that stopped it all? - Any of you. - I think everybody just kind of worked it all out of their system by Friday, Saturday. And plus the National Guard showed up on the weekend. And then we found out the National Guard, their clip was empty. They had no ammo. They were just standing around with empty rifles. - Like what? - Yeah, yeah. - Standing around with empty rifles. - Still what they did. - They basically just more of a chauffeur force 'cause they came with humbues as well. And they're in the park in the middle of an intersection. - Did they have live ammo like on their cases? - No, they didn't have live ammo. - Oh, jeez. - And from what I heard and understood, they didn't have live ammo that weekend. Maybe they got it afterwards. But like, by the weekend it was pretty much over. And then there was a huge-- - That just sounds dangerous. - Makes sense. - Well, this is-- - This is part of the challenges that we have with a lot of the leadership in the city and in the county as well, you know? And then there was a protest march on Sunday that weekend. All of the Korean community came out named, basically, walked Koreatown to protest again. What was happening? This was actually my first protest that I went to. And there was a young kid that died around my age. It was like, he was a year younger than me. His name was Eddie Lee. And he was shot by friendly fire by guys. And the reason why he was shot is 'cause he was dressed in a particular way. He was wearing a white t-shirt, blue jeans, and he was wearing Nike Cortez. He looked like one of the Hispanic gang members. So because of that, he was mistaken. He got shot around dusk. So they couldn't make out who he was that he was currently coming to help. But they ended up shooting him. So it was an accident. That's what kind of turned the tide. - Well, no, it didn't turn the tide. - Well, how was that because it was friendly fire? Did it escalate? Or, oh, we need a de-escalate. - We didn't know. I didn't know about this until the day of the protest when we were walking when we found out he got shot. Because this is pre-internet, pre- just information, quick information, right? You don't find out about stuff until like a few days later. - This is the news. That's what's wild about this. I couldn't imagine it during the age of, like in social media where you can post it, and talk about it or spread that the chaos. I mean, some are of love. You've talked, we've talked about a shit ton and all the coverage it got. That's just, as you think, organic chaos. - So you would classify this as a mostly peaceful protest. - Which one? - Not all of that, right? - Yeah, cool. Using CNN's definition, yes. Using the CNN definition, it was mostly peaceful protest. - Most of the city wasn't on fire. - Yeah, most of the city wasn't on fire. - Yeah, it was hard to ignore because once the fire started going up on Wednesday, Thursday, and then by Thursday, the whole city and the whole county was kind of covered in the layer of smoke. You smelled it when you got out of your, you know, walked out of your house, then you'll hear occasional gunshots here and there, and then it'll pick up towards the evening more shots. And I know for a fact that a lot of scores between rival gangs were settled that week as well, because, you know, there was no police presence and they weren't gonna do a, you know, they weren't gonna do an investigation. - The literal fog of war, exactly. - Bro, I did not realize like the fight, you're not joking on fires. Like they burnt that shit to the ground. - I didn't know it was that bad with the fires. - Yeah, and, you know, California, Southern California, notoriously good at handling fires. - It's so good. Like holy fuck. - Yeah. - And just a side point during the 2020 BLM riots, they avoided Koreatown altogether. - Nice. - Well, once bitten. - Did they? - Yeah, they did. - Purposely, they avoided Koreatown. - Wild, that's what happens. What, I wonder how the gun laws change since then if, just still being in Korean town and trying to defend your place, but all the new rules into effect? - I think, you know what, when you have a situation that's like out of the ordinary, then you have to have special circumstances that cover this out of the ordinary circumstance. You know, this situation that you're in. And I think it's hard to prosecute someone who's basically doing something that's gonna, you know, it's for their own livelihood, for their own survival. You know, so it'll be hard to prosecute that, I think. And anyone that's going through a situation like that in terms of a riot or chaos, I mean, I would always advocate to defend yourself. I don't give a fuck about the gun laws. You know, like, you've got to defend yourself. 'Cause, you know, honestly, like, if you don't defend your own family and your neighborhood, who's gonna do it, the cops? I mean, no offense, but the cops, the cops are gonna do it. Nowadays, the cops are just there to write a report. They actually want to get their late because they don't want to encounter the crime so they can just be there and write the report. And that's kind of what we're relegated to now. In California, I'm Texas, I'm sure it's different, but in California, that's what we're relegated to. But my mentality's always been the same. I mean, I don't give a fuck. You know, honestly, if someone's coming at me, I don't give a fuck what the gun laws are. You know, they're coming after me and my family or they're gonna try to harm me. I want to make sure I take them out before they take me out, regardless if it's with a gun or with my hands or whatever. It's kind of-- - It's water bottles? - Well, it's kind of become a cringe bumper sticker statement, but I mean, it's still like, it holds true. It's the saying, like, it's better to be-- - Carried by-- - Judge by 12, then carried by six. - Right, six, yeah, yeah. - No, I think, yeah, it's cliche, but it makes sense a lot of sense. - Yeah, I think the sentiment's still true. - Yeah, it is. Absolutely. - Cody talks, Kiley of just the, how would you approach that? 'Cause you're like walking into that situation where they defended their family. Are you still enforcing the federal law or the state laws at that point when it's clear as day? - What's it? Cause it's confiscated expression that's what-- - That's what I'm wondering. - There's not a lot of officer discretion there. There's not much-- - There's not much. - There's not much a B-cop could do, like going in investigating something like that. - Yeah, I have a question for you just 'cause I'm not sure, but I think this is how it works. I'm asking if I'm correct. Like, I think if a cop shows up to like a self-defense shooting at a house for whatever, from the cause, 'cause my understanding is like, you could be on this person's side. Like if I shot somebody at the broken in my house, I tell you what happened. You're like, yeah, this makes complete sense. I believe this guy, everything he's saying adds up. Nothing should happen to this guy, but the DA is a dickhead. The DA can still come after me, and then I could like go to you and be like, hey, will you test fire on my behalf? You were the cop that showed up first and the DA can just not allow it. Even if you think I'm in the right, or is that am I wrong? And you could testify on my behalf. - It all comes down to facts. There's no offender discretion after the facts, but me personally, if I went into that situation, I saw that you defend yourself. I would be as vague as I could on the report, to be honest. - But I'm just saying, 'cause it all comes down to like, even-- - Basically can the DA block you from testifying? - Yeah. I'm not sure at that point. - Like even if you're not trying to fuck me, like you're genuinely on my side, like anything I tell you, the DA can still use against me, and twist, even if it's not how you interpreted it, or what you meant when you wrote it in the report. - I don't think the DA can stop that. - I have the right to remain silent also. - Yeah. We've seen some weird-- - No, the DA, if everything were like-- - Well shit, I mean, like dude, we had Gascon, which is like a shit DA for a long time. You know, this guy let everything go. You know, so yeah, the DA has a lot to do with prosecuting these criminals, you know, and that's kind of the problem that we had. We had a DA that wasn't doing his job. It was Soros funded, you know, a lot of these DAs are funded by Soros, and they're put purposely to let crime run rampant. I mean, they'll go after guys like us, but when it comes to somebody who's held up 18 liquor stores, you know, it's-- - And that's the whole thing about gun laws. - Yeah. - They don't apply to criminals, you know? And yeah, it's only guys like us, you know? So, yeah, hopefully my book, I'll be right back. able to kind of take a stand on that as well in terms of talking about gun laws and how they only really apply to, you know, the average Jo Jane citizen versus the criminal who basically has no care whatsoever, you know. I don't think you'll find any arguments here. Yeah, I know. But I mean, I think, sorry, I know you got a hard out. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's a little bit. No, but what's your, what's your, what's the book with the title of the book? It's rooftop Korean. Boom. Yeah, rooftop Korean. This publisher is Wargate, really great guys, ex-military, just like you guys, they're just on top of it. And they just tell me where to go, what to do, right? We already know that. You're going to be on Amazon. Amazon, where, where can you purchase or free order from Wargate themselves, they tell me that if it goes through Amazon, they get a smaller cut because of Amazon and Amazon has like some shit deal about like sometimes they'll return pallets of books like, I don't know, just, they say it's easier if you just sort of from them directly. Yeah. So, website, it's on my Twitter page. You can also go to Wargate, on my ex-handle, I'm sorry, on my ex-handle, like I have the link there as well, which is @RoofKoreen7, yeah, @RoofKoreen7. My name's Honeymoon. Yeah. Yeah. And is that where everyone can find you just Twitter, that's the only, like, I have an Instagram, but I'm just like, I don't use it as much or often, you know, I should, but yeah, ex is probably the best place to find me. Well, it's a lot more fun. It is a lot more fun. Yeah. I do. We truly appreciate you. Well, thank you for having me on. Yeah. So, everybody's going to close this bitch up. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast I was joined today by Eli double tap the fan electrician Tony Moon, RoofKoreen, Brandon Herrera, and myself Donut Operator. Love you bitches. Bye. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]