Rome Flynn & Buddy: Power of Therapy, Celebrity All-Star Games & the Existence of Aliens

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I'm Gemma Spek, host of the Psychology of your 20s podcast, and this month we're helping you make sense of the person that you are becoming, from setting boundaries and navigating friendships to understanding anxiety, confidence, relationships, and attachment. Sometimes our biggest decisions, without us even realizing it, aren't driven by what we truly want, but by what will prevent us from feeling lonely or being alone. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think I'm going to make the NBA, and what capacity, though. Okay. I'm sorry. Who would do that? I'm sorry. My way. How was you going to get there, man? Sometimes life is therapy in its ways. First time I tried therapy, I was lying to my therapist. Why I got to talk to somebody else talking to God, why can't you just call bro? Who? God. Who says that? I'm saying you go to church. You go to somebody who says they've been touched by God, they can speak to God. Let's tap with. Oh. First of all, brother. He's joined a black church. Welcome to the shop. I am one of your host, Sterling, Stilo Brim, without his being in it. That was pretty cool. Being in it. Yeah, my son is too professional. You're in it. Steelo Brim. All right, damn. So, no, boys. Steelo Brim. I didn't like that. Steelo Brim. Is that so? I am Sterling Brim from Chicago. Are we bullyin' niggas on here? I see. So. So. No, you were bullyin' me just before we. Okay. I was no bullyin'. I was no bullyin'. I had explained a story about where I said I am very ticklish. And he said. Can't trust nobody who's ticklish. No man who's ticklish. That's fine. Don't trust me. I'm okay. I don't trust somebody who's not ticklish. And then. Really? Then I brought up the Steelo. It was like, bro, you're definitely ticklish. The bottom of your feet is like, well, I mean, when I get my nails done. I mean, when I get my. I said, I've gotten some pedicures and. No, whoa. No one's this guy. By the way, I get my nails done. I know you. That wasn't an argument. That was cute. That was cute. That was. Hey. I'm ticklish. All right. I think you might be good at this. Yeah. I mean, when they do my pedicure, you get a little ticklish on the bottom, but I'm not really ticklish. No where else in my body. That's like my. But that's a part of your body. That's like being exposed, though, but. That's a part of your body. You say it earlier. I'm ticklish all over. Which I thought was crazy. That was crazy. I don't know. I don't know what I was doing with ticklish all over. That was not the verbiage I used. You did. That's how I'm really ticklish. That's how I was like all over. How about that? How about fucking you? You know, where's the net? Trying to get in the mood. You're going to catch a neck. You're like. No, no, no, no. Squirrel up now. I will say, yeah, that's usually. That's how I find out I was ticklish. I got kissed on the neck, and I was like, "Please don't do that. I don't like that." You know what I mean? It's a weird thing. It's like you enjoy it, but it tickles. It's like a pleasure. Okay. Pain. It's pain. How's it painful? Ooh, okay. I felt like that black lady on that bus when she hung on that thing. She's. You know, pleasure and pain. They're kind of like one-to-one. Right. They do. Yeah. I don't know about you. I mean, I enjoy it. Earlier, you said something very interesting. What did I say? You said double your breathing. I don't know. What was the verbiage you said? Your butt got tight? No, this isn't it. I said do it this. See? See? This man just brought us to this thing. You're still involved. You're not even giving context. I said that when you had the plate or something in his full account, you don't swing at the last pitch, or you got that game in the shot. You shooting at you, air ball. Your butt got tight. You tightened up, Phil. And he said he never heard it. So, okay. Here we are. He never heard of that. I would just like a show of hands. 12 people. 15 people. 20 people. Show of hands, who's ever heard that? Thank you. Thank you. One. Two. Okay, wait. Wait. -That was good. -You just want to know. -They don't know, nigga. -It was good. -I don't know who raised their hand. -The one other person is from Chicago. That's why I think it's very interesting. -That person-- -All right. -But got tight. Thank you. Thank you. It's odd, needy, unless Chicago loves it here. -Speaking of-- -So Chicago, niggas are butt tight niggas. -Not what the fuck? Yeah. Apparently L.A. niggas are loose butt niggas. -What? -What was that? Okay, wait a second. -I love it here, too. -I'm saying you do this. -I was saying L.A. niggas may be considered ticklish. -That's okay. I'd be rather ticklish than a butt tight. Or I don't know. I don't any knew about that, man. -Yeah, but you'd rather be tight than not tight. You'd rather be tight for sure. -Yeah, yeah. I must have quit. -I think I was getting to our show. -Let's bring our guests on. -Today, we have-- -I got wrong flippers here, actors stored in there. -And my friend, buddy, is here. Who is a rapper and now an actor? -Yes. -What's up? -Like, man? -Welcome to the shop. -In the shop. -Yes. -I like them boobs, bro. -You like these? -You peeped those when you burst locked down. -I like it. -How D. -Okay. -This chair is nice. -It is nice, right? The whole setup is nice. I'm happy you're all here. -I'm doing some stuff. -Happy you guys are here. -We're doing well around here. -Is that it? -Oh, that's y'all. -Don't look at the bottle. -That's-- we call that stealer brim. -Yeah. -My eyelashes popping in my eyebrows, too, on fleek. -And there's line-up. They didn't give me-- -They went straight down with my shit. -They didn't give me no enhancements. I don't take enhancements on my line-up. -But you take it on a picture? -Yeah, yeah. What the fuck? Why not? -Yeah, shit. -That's a picture. -It is. -It looks good, though. -It's nice. It's real nice. -And we thanked them, yeah. -It's great. -It's great. -Real nice. -It was nice. I like nice back there. I like your shades. Them look kind of like the glasses, not for real, but like the glasses with the camera. Do you be trusting people with the glasses with the camera on them? -I don't trust anybody to begin with. -Right into the glasses. -The glasses are crazy. -Yeah. -You got them? -No. No, I don't have them. -It's so weird talking to them. -You can always spot them, though. It's like a light on it. Kind of tells you. -But I think they got them now with no light on them now. -They have one no light. What I think is-- -That's crazy. That's crazy. -No light is crazy. It's like you're exercising your first amendment. I understand that, like, roll my eyes. But also at the same time, it's like a power trip to me. It's like you understand that you're feeling me, and I don't have any idea. -Yeah. -So therefore that exchange to me is like not real. And then I find out-- It's like if somebody has on those glasses and tries to talk to me, I will just run the other way. -Yeah. -It don't make no sense. You have power over me. I have no control. I have no idea you're feeling me. -I feel like it's fair work. It feels like fair work. As soon as I see you with the glasses, I'm like, you work for them. That's what's up. -I don't like that shit. -At all, one bit. -Last time I was watching the news, like, local news. I was watching KTLA and the guy on the news at the desk. It wasn't like he was outreporting. He was at a desk in a suit with probably basketball shorts on. He had on smart glasses, and I didn't understand why. And to me, it was just, what the fuck is he filming? -I know, was he posting the news early? Like, why was he even doing that? -Rigarlous is that. Like, are people using these as functional glasses as well? Like, are you getting your prescription put into these? -I think so. -It's more than just a recording. I feel like you could be like, call this person, play this song, tell me about this, and then be doing all that. -People are using those 100% just for, like, socials. It feels like, right? -The glasses. -You're not just like recording probably to vlog with that stuff. I mean, like, POV-wise. -Wait, easier. -Yeah. -I mean, it feels like kind of cool when you, like, go on a trip with somebody in that sense, but, like, anything other than that. Yeah, again, I had something do come over to the restaurant. And he had them on and walking through, dying. And I was like, absolutely not. He got to go. -Yeah. -Yeah, they spotted now. You're going to any of them. -I told him he had to go. -People just be trying to document, they live, and then run the tape back, see what they can do better. -Nah, the box. -Like, you're watching film. -Yeah. -You're like, damn. -I said, I'm like, I said, "Hell that door." -Yeah. -Yeah, that stuff, I mean. -She said, "You look nice." -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Nice. -That would be, but that makes sense, though, a little bit. Like, I think it's more nefarious work going on. -For sure. -I think social media just created this world where we feel like we have to show everybody everything. Well, I feel like I've moved in the opposite direction. I don't know, you guys feel but, like, privacy is like the. one thing that I want to protect in my life. - I like that, that's nice. - It is, it is nice. How realistic is it? How realistic is being private or being a private person also trying to become a star in your field? - It depends, so from your perspective, you do music, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, so like I feel like there's a connection between like your fans and you that has to be a certain level of like visibility, right? You feel like there's a certain genuine connection you need to have with them, but as an actor, I do music as well, but as an actor, I don't really need to have that, right? Like what do you really know about all your favorite actors? Like you really-- - 'Cause it's not a personality act, right? It's not about character versus a personal life situation or rapid or whatever the fuck you do. It's just different as personal. - I think it depends, I mean, I think that, I think that, let's just use Kevin Hart, for example. I think that when he really took off, he used social media as like this power tool for him to be able to demand more through-- - That's Kevin Hart. - It is Kevin Hart. I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'm saying that like, I do think that you-- - Not as both words can be said. - Yeah, and it can really work for you in that sense. I do think that if I be able to cast it and book this stuff based on them having social followings too. - No, that's definitely more so now. I think in a couple of series, there are leads of guys who do skits, et cetera. But I'm saying like I do feel like there's outliers and the less people know about you, the better. - In acting for sure. - I think in acting, it is protecting that distance between you and a viewer. And yeah, like you're saying, it's like you're playing a role, that is not your personality. So someone might love a character you play and they meet you in person, but you know, I don't like the character I know. That's just like, in music, I feel like it's such an honest art form that you're gonna meet somebody and feel like you're and talk to them, I'm like, man, that's gonna change my life. While a movie might have changed your life, but a role somebody plays doesn't, you know? - It can, what I mean is like, I guess the art in music, the connection is bigger for more like a deeper connection. - Yeah, I agree with that. - And you're acting now, you're doing the new Snowfall. - Oh yeah. - How's it feel going from music to acting? 'Cause like in acting, I mean, in music, you have more control in acting, you're just waiting around most of the day and then they tell you to be ready, and then you gotta be ready and you're ready, you're waiting and then this whole game of playing a Russian weight. - It was seamless for me. I'm acting prior to rapping, yeah. - Oh, fuck, I'm bugging, this nigga was an entourage. - Yeah, I'm just super talented since I was born. Y'all late. - And as you classify. - Yeah, like, I mean, doing shit. - I've been working. - It's just a really good role, so it's gonna be nice. - Excited for you. - Cool. - Very excited. - And you're doing music, though, too. Give me a take on like, like you're doing. - I mean, I do, I think it live my life regardless. I don't really spend time with people. So it's just like, I put out music and live and breathe and whatever happens, happens, you know? - Do you not feel like people fall in love with you, though, as a person? Like, I think you have a very rich personality. Like, I feel like people follow you a lot. I fell in love, I think, and music's amazing, but also, I fell in love with Buddy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not like, I don't know. Broadcasted online, you have to catch me out and see me in all my splendor. I'm not like. - Yeah, no. - It's gonna be like, six places at once on that. I swear to God, if you know Buddy. - Yeah. - Hey, be it five bars at once. - I just need one stuff and looking cool. It's nice. I think it is important, though, to be visible as a musician, to a certain degree, but like you're saying, on Instagram, you can be a private person on Instagram. Like, I don't post my house. If you see a post of me inside my house, it's like, very cornered so you can't tell where it is, or if I'm outside my house, you can't tell where I am. Just because I know that that's how people find other people's houses. I think of that. That's just because I'm paranoid, I guess. - Yeah. - You should be. You paranoid? - A little bit. But you grew up flocking, so that's why you know. - That's a difference here. - Yeah, I don't. - I definitely never flocking. - Ah. - A little bit. - No, I never flocking. - No home invasion? - No home invasions. - That's what's up, man, that's good. - Ah, actually, I broke into a band in house one time, and my neighborhood, the sea was inside, 'cause it was like vacant for a long time, but that's not it. - Bored. - Nick is bored. - He's just doing shit. - You know what? - I ain't gonna flock a band out. - It was flocking, I'm just telling ya. I didn't flock nothing. - You just went in there. - I'm a square. - Okay. - All right, all right. - The NBA draft just happened, and I think I could have made the NBA. - You think so? - I feel like I'd be like, I don't want to say a lottery. I'd be like, "Time-out." - And what capacity, though? - Okay. - He's telling you who. - Let's just do that. - No, I'm just saying who that was. - No way. - How'd you get there, man? - You know what I mean? You know what it is? You know what it is? - When I played against the NBA person who had NBA talent, who played in the NBA, and I busted their ass, the confidence-- - Say his name, first of all. - Yeah. - Right here. - You gave him some buckets. - Bucket. - Not enough to go to the pool. - I said who? - And also, he was out to leave. - That was you who raised, you know what I mean? - You just said, I said who? - I'm just gonna say Karee or something. I mean, that's what I-- - I said who? - That's what I said. - That's what I played with. - I played against Karee. - You know what I'm saying? - And you ever give him a bucket? - I have. I swear to God, I have. That's my homie. - I'm about you. - I'm about-- - You didn't give him a bucket, though. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, happy. - You play basketball? - Nah, I'm all heart, no fundamentals. - No fun. (laughing) - I like that. - Let me keep that a lot. I'm like, you know what God's like that. - Keep that one, I'm gonna keep it a little harder. - What you gonna do? - Oh God, pass me the ball. I'll do some. - Yo, my team is great. You know what I'm about to do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've been hooping with the cribs in the blood. - That's probably more dangerous. - Way more dangerous. - You won two MVP's in that NBA celebrity also again, which pisses me off. - piss me off too much. - Yeah, they ever let me play, bro, I've been, I don't wanna say I've been famous for 16 years, but I've been a personality for 15 fucking years. And I've asked every year, they're always like, "No, we're good, we need to just do it without you." - It's so political, bro. - But it's political, but I also just wanna. I've hooped with you before, I can't say that. - Yeah, yeah, we actually have hooped. - So that's why it's like, "I just wanna play value on that." - But you wanna go win the MVP though, even if you play. - That's how he said it. He was like, "I hooped with you before." - No, no, he might, he might, if I'm-- - Might is crazy. - If I'm playing then probably not. - Damn. - See, this is one of those things where we gonna, we gonna shut these cameras off and pull up a basketball court right now. - And he don't always, he don't wanna do that. - I played in it too, and I was mad that I didn't-- - I remember that, I didn't take enough shots. - You didn't tell us the initiative? - I had Justin Bieber on my team. I felt like it was a pecking order. I was afraid. I was like, "I don't kick me out of home pass." This is my bucket. So I thought I'd give him the ball. It was crazy. I only took like five shots. I made some buckets. But this dude came out. I watched him, like, he doing everything I would do. - You're only taking the shots, buddy, smart. - Oh, it's not gonna go, bro. Trust me. - I mean, the whole experience was just incredible, especially you just growing up hooping, right? Like, that's the pinnacle of, like, I'm an actor, I'm bunch of things, but like, basketball really created fundamentally, like, who I am as a person. Like, you can learn a lot about a person based on how they hoop. - Mm-hmm. - Teamwork. - Facts. - However it falls, the road dynamic. - All this is, you know? And I think, being out there, there was no other way I was gonna play that game. Like, if I was gonna miss it, it was gonna be like, O and 10. - And if I was gonna put 'em up? - I want y'all to know, I'll get out there and be, get the fuck out of the way. - Hi, so, bro, I don't care who's in front of me, a child, a woman, an old person, and everything. I'm a fuck. - Better time for you. - I'm tripping niggas. - Baja. - I've been doing a lot of that, too. - By the time you get out there, it's gonna be too late now. - Me? - I'm just gonna go recruit you in like three more years. - And you're gonna be like, dude. - How away do you play it? - Probably, let me see. - Yeah. - Let's get into it. - Damn, I was 28, 29. - Okay. - I think I was so good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't saying you played recently. - You could still. - You said you played recently? - No, actually, been a minute. - What do you be playing it? (laughing) - I don't think I played it in like six months. - Say what you talking about. - What was I playing? - I tore my Achilles and now I'm going to go. - Excuse me, y'all here, excuse me. - Excuse me. - I tore my Achilles and I'm really, excuse me. - I'm ready to get back though. - That's right. - Eric playing basketball. - Who been hoping for the course? - Of course. - Trying to do too much. I had 20 in the first half. I told myself I'm back and then was three seconds left. And I tore it, I have to, that's crazy. I turned around, felt the kick, and nobody there. I said, "Oh, they got me." They got me. - Oh, yeah, I knew instantly. And now I walked myself off the court. My friends convinced me because I got up and walked myself off the court that I was good. - Kobe shot. - Is all you into, you good? - I flew out to Miami next day. - Woo. - With a 20-key that did not know. - That's right. - It was just, it was just, it was just sorry it felt like. - Yeah, well, I just listened to too many idiots. I was just like, "Oh, I guess I walked." I guess you probably don't want to believe it yourself either. - Yeah, and there was a complete rupture. - Damn. - A complete rupture. - But now that's going to be good as new, I mean. - That's how you, I mean, you should think. I should think, I don't know, for sure. - That what they say. - They say you can actually let it heal naturally. - Oh, what? - I know a dude who tore both of you. He said he let his, his one heal naturally, and it actually is so much stronger than the way he got started to be prepared. Which is crazy thing though. - It's just freak accidents, bro. - You think you could made it? To the league? - Yeah. - Yeah. - To the league too. 'Cause I feel like it's different than that. - It is different. - Yeah, yeah. - For some, I believe I could still go right now. - To that right now. - Yeah. - Like a process, do you think the process makes sense? As far as like, I mean, the lottery is interesting. It's like, it's behind closed doors. I feel like they pinpoint people to go to certain teams. What team do you think they pinpoint you to go to? - Oh really? Who's your team? - I mean, I'm a bronze fan. - You're a bronze fan. - So wherever he at, that's the one I'm rocking with, low key. - Well, you know what I'm saying? - But, you know, the lakers I like right now. Couple teams, I like narratives. I like players narratives. That's, that's common sense. - This is the thing. - I'm Chicago and he ain't-- - Are you a Bulls fan? - I'm a Bulls fan. - I'm not a Bulls fan, bro. - I'm a Bulls fan, but like, I also like, I mean, I'm a basketball fan. I've been living here long enough to the root for the team's year, but I'm a Bulls fan, actually. - It's the white boy on the lakers that be shooting. - Awesome. - Luke, I don't know. - Luke. - Oh, the. - Don't you. - Don't you. - That's the. - That's the. - One of them. - You remember the one. - Okay, you're not my only musician friend who doesn't know anything about basketball, bro. - You, like, go sports? - Huh. (laughing) - Bro, all my homies really don't be knowing nothing about that. They come to my house and I'll be watching the game and I'll be yelling up and down and everything. And they will look at me and go, "What's going on?" And I'll be like, "You don't see it? "What are you missing?" And they're like, "I don't know, I'm just. "It dunks in there, I don't know. "How you feel like there's new NBA money, bro?" I know you know about that. - They get paid a lot. - They get paid a whole lot now. - They pay them a lot of money. - No, okay, that's not. - They get paid a whole lot, right? - No, they get paid a lot. - You got players that's like the 11th man on the roster who probably get in, like, 15 a year now. - Yeah. - I think that's tight. - Yeah, it's dope as hell, but is it messing up the market in general around here, like, you know, when you are here trying to holla at some, and you know it's the NBA player right next to you who you don't know his name, but he getting 20 a year. - Well, market, you're talking about. - I'm a married man, I'm just talking about you. (laughing) - Y'all see the girl who coached her sister into getting a NBA boyfriend? - Nah. - Nah, but what's wrong with that? - No, it was that she. - Oh, I was a white girl. - Yeah! - That's why I was the issue. That was the issue. - But she said, like, if he cheats who cares, like, don't say anything to his mom about, like, what your personal life, like, all these rules that I thought were insane. - And she's married now. - Ali, probably with two kids. - Yeah. - I mean, I get it. - You day to NBA play, you don't end up with a check? - You're gonna do it right. - Business is insane. - He'll say it. - You left with nothing, you left with extra 10,000 likes. - That ain't bad. - Bird, bird, bird. - No Larry. - No Larry. (laughing) - Y'all getting money, y'all been getting money for a long time now, I just borrowed money. What advice would y'all give, like, these NBA dudes in the draft on, like, I guess, saving this money or, like, continuing to grow their wealth? If you got any. - Trick it off. - Trick it off. - Trick it off. - Keep hoping. - Keep hoping. - Go. - You're talented. Some guys not know who you are, that's for certain guys. - Oh yeah? - Yeah, not everybody. - If you can't hoop like that, I know nothing, by the way. Save your money. Roth IRA. What they said. (laughing) - I don't like that. - Yeah. - Pick one. - I feel like, now I would tell a young kid, like, go ahead, like, spend your little money, like, get your little shit off in your first check, 'cause that's just what you're gonna do naturally. But don't expect it to always come. - Yeah. - Like, I learned that lesson, man, young girl, I blew through my first check. Bad, bad. I also call my manager at the time. And I was like, I yelled on the phone. I was like, you stealing my money, trying to finesse me. And I was like, you're like, what are you talking about? I was like, fight. I was like, I think that's the government. I was like, oh, got it. Way. (laughing) Message. Yeah, and it was like, I think learning that lesson, like, having it losing, having it losing, definitely taught me how to manage my money better now than an adult. Like, this nigga brought his first house in '25. At 25 years old, I was living in my mom's house. - Yeah. - He was like, that's a smart business man, though. He's really, no, for real. You are the company you keep, though, bro. - Yeah, sure. - Everybody around is not only wealthy and financial, but just wealthy, like, knowledge-wise. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, 'cause I know what the people you around a lot. - I'm the dumbest one for sure. - Thumb up. - So, that's not real, though, 'cause you're actually really smart. And, I know you'd be under the radar, but I peep. - You gotta film, you just produce it, just get it. - Okay, man, look, don't you got the-- - Go watch Ricky. - Hey, man. - I like your restaurant. - It's good food there. - Yeah, it's good box, too. - See you there. - I love it. I love watching you over there. - Yeah, I love watching my friends there. - So, when I say "See You Little Rich," and he looks at me like, "I'm crazy." - 'Cause you was in a different area. You said that from a different place. - I like your art collection, too. - Thank you. - You got like-- - Rich! - He's, he's, he's got some nice ass art. - They mean this, they're good people, they mean this. - So, I'm not a good person, I don't mean that. - I'm supposed to art, you hear me like, where you get that? - Yeah, what's your latest piece? - What's your latest piece you picked up on the art side of the thing? - On the art. - You collect? - Yeah, I do collect the latest, I don't know. I don't know, honestly. I mean, I do, let me see. - You're not sure what you bought recently, is that what you just had? - Well, 'cause that's a rich thing. - Yeah, that just sounds rich. - Yeah, that's not smart. - I'm not sure. - I forgot. - I gotta get around this. - I don't know, I just grab pieces sometimes and I gotta piece a couple pieces at the Chicago Expo. Maybe a couple months back. - 'Cause you're from Chicago? - Yeah, I want to fly up. - That's time to check it out. - Yeah. - It was good, it was cool. - Nice. - What was the piece? - Yeah, speak up. - I want you guys all to know whatever it is, I know that, whatever it is. - The Chicago Expo is a very, that's fine. - That's an emerging artist like convention, like, so it was dope to support. - My little cell high is when he just told us, ladies and gentlemen, my little cell high. - My little cell high. - Like, what was it, what did it look like? - I thought you said, did it have pieces 500 hours, I was like, yeah, they do. - No, I said. - I was like, yeah, they do it. The piece about one of the swimming pool pieces, in other words, these three pieces together, small pieces together. - Okay. - They kinda tell it, it's like a, it's very detailed. - I like where you get in that bag. - It's like that Kanye video, when he making the beats, the painting, it speaks to you. - Yeah, it speaks to me. - Yo, yo, dude, are you all like art? I mean, I'm just supporting an investing back in black art and art in general. I love investing in artists, through music, through film, through traditional art, I guess. - Tell y'all, just thinking about that. - Yeah, humble, man. - 'Cause I don't know what to breathe. - That's right, you know? - We need that, bro, that's good. Be humble. - That's tight. - But don't get confused. Be confident, though. 'Cause you is everything we say. - I appreciate that. - I appreciate that. - Yeah, that's tight. - June is men's mental health month. - Yeah. - That's right. - You see, I'm struggling already. - You're struggling with your hands. - I think you're struggling with success. - I'm struggling with success. - I need support. - How do you guys deal with your mental stress and what goes on here day to day? I will speak for myself and say as an actor, there's moments where I feel unwanted or unnecessary because I don't get a gig or I don't get a job for a long time. And I definitely stressful, but I find like, I mean, I've definitely done a lot of therapy work and I am able to communicate my friend's how I feel, so I think that's helpful. How do you guys like operate in that place? - I'm a big fat, yogi bear. I do yoga. - Amazing. How much do you do the week? - A lot every day. I hit that mat. - Oh, you don't have every day? - I love that. - Yeah. I just got a lot of stress out of my hips this morning. (laughter) - I'm saying this is your soul ass. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's why when you see me sitting in the seat, I'm like, I'm all about the posture. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, mental health. Does that help with your mental or no? - Yeah, right after the yogi is a moment of stillness that I go into a brief meditation tap in with source and you know, keep it growing. - I love that. - I do love it, yeah. - That's good, man. - What about each other? - I mean, man, sometimes life is therapy in its ways, you know, like through my art forms, I find solace in it, you know. Obviously, I lean on my mom, I lean on the people that's closest to me. But you know how I guess is very isolated, you know, isolating, you know, when you feel like you're on this journey of like self discovery and also a journey of just trying to get planted, be in, have a foundation in a business where I can just say for me, and you know, you guys have done film as well, but like, it's one of the rare businesses you have to continue to prove yourself in. It's like, I got an award for this, like, no, but we still want to see it, and we still, we don't know. It's like, and also because we're black, because we're people of color, it's like, you have to avoid so many other things as well, you know, that's like my white counterpart actors don't really have to deal with, you know what I mean? So. But you like skiing? Yeah, but I'm black though. I was just kidding. Woo! They already do that. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm sorry, man. See, it was mental healthy. Fuck no. Shit. I started therapy really young because of angry issues, and there's like mad tools I used from that, like from third, fourth grade, fifth grade that I used now as an adult when I get angry, I get upset, and I could be like, oh, I'm not upset on this, so my ego is doing this rather than me actually being upset. Why are you used to be so mad? Yeah. I really don't know, brother. I think, honestly, it was like an attention thing, I think I just needed attention sometimes and because we'll give it to me, I'm like, I need some more time. I need some time. I need some time. I need some time. I need some time. I need some time. But now as an adult, I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. But now as an adult, like, I don't want the attention, but I think it's so interesting, like, to the flip, the switch to flip completely on its head and to be in therapy and being like, I don't like to be in a limelight so much as I thought it, I would or I'd do. Right. It's different lights aligned, though. You know what I mean? That TV splinter, different thing, like, I don't know, all the attention being on you in the moment. Yeah. Where you're present and you feel it and you know it. So I don't know. Discernment has been big and my mental health, you know. Yeah. I did the same thing. I was really, I realized I'm lying to myself to damn true before I got to go. Yeah. This was somebody else about what I got going on, like, I think it's because, that's really the breakdown. You kind of trying to, like, not trick them, but, like, part of, at least for me, it's crazy. But I used to think, like, my first time going to, like, oh, if I could trick this, or make them believe things the way I'm saying it then, they probably don't have enough therapy for me. Actually, yeah. They're too easily fooled in this way. And it's not the actual truth, but I felt that way early and I'm like, I don't know if I want to share my real thoughts with you. Let me test this out. And I was like, I just personally ain't good. Yeah. And it's like, no, I'm just dealing with the stuff you're telling me. Yeah. I learned that that's a waste of money. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I'm wasting my time with this person if I'm not telling them the truth. And I'm wasting my own time. It's like, I want to, I want. therapy to be therapist, like I want it to work versus it being we're just talking to somebody about some bullshit. That's so I definitely try. Like, I was young with force. Yeah, for sure. I feel like white people, I don't want to say get mental health more but like the black community, I think sometimes we will write people off as crazy or as anything weird, whatever. Yeah. Because we didn't understand their mental health like space and where they lived. I think autism is a spectrum that's so big and so why that some people don't understand it. Instead of like trying to understand, they're just like, I think it's weird or he's dumb or he's this or he's that. But like, I don't know. I guess I wish that our community was a little bit more open to understanding that. I think it was autistic. I think it's tough though. I mean, I have ADHD. I think it's tough though because your trusting systems are really not built to support you. Right? Like, you think about the one kid in your class who probably did some bullshit and he just learned a different way and they'd be like, oh, he got behavior issues. We put him in this class now. You're like, you're not actually trying to figure out what's going on here. I remember even the first time I brought up ADHD to your black parents, they like, you ain't gonna call my baby slow. And you're like, well, I don't know what they're saying now. You look back on it. You're like, they were actually trying to identify why I learned this way versus this way. Like, but again, I think like my mom, at least you tell her that she like, no, that's not. You accept with the man telling you, you're like, I guess my mom, also I got a whole bunch of shit going on. I guess yeah, I don't know because I think that somehow parents, our parents feels that as a reflection on them. So they try to, you know, maybe, yeah, to be like, he not. Because how could he be that? Because you know, if I'm here, you know what I mean, but I think it's just a lack of understanding, a lack of like, understanding what it actually is. I feel like there's a broad desensitization to all the fucked up shit that's wrong across the board. Everybody's just a custom to things going wrong, be stressed out, trauma, and keeping it pushing. And everybody need help. Yeah, I wish the world got there. I think we'd be in a better place. But I'm sure there's like a lot of people who don't talk about anything with anybody. And I know it's because they feel like they can't share it or they don't want to be vulnerable. Whatever the fuck it is, it's like people are getting over at some point. I wish all my hood on these good therapy. For real, I think it'd be important. I think that like you were just saying, like you said, you find therapy in life. But I do think that like sometimes it feels like black men or black people in general don't always trust or want to go to an actual certified therapist. I'm not sharing my thoughts. Just a random person. But I'll say for me, at least it's helped me so much. Again, my mom and my dad try to always be there and give me words. But part of the issue is I'm half above them all. So I can't keep talking to them about this shit. I'm like, I gotta talk to somebody else that can help me do this. And by his opinion, yeah. Yeah, maybe we've been talking about this. I think we can go into some of the lighter. Have y'all seen this Steven Spielberg, like movie, The Stosure Day? Just came out? Yeah, I saw it. You did? I was. It's good. It's good. I don't want to spoil it for nobody though, but it's great, bro. What other movie the Steven Spielberg do? I know that sounds ridiculous. Like ever? No, no. What other side of the movie did he do? Well, he did ET, which is the other alien movie. I couldn't remember that. That's the most famous alien movie ball time. I've never seen ET. Fuck out of here. What's your all-favorite alien movie though? Shit, probably I'm again. I like. I've never seen that. It's already an alien movie? For sure. I thought I was like about it. Maybe you're hitting the shit or something, no? Yeah, but it independence is an alien movie. I like that movie. Independence Day. Men in black. Men in black. That's real. That's real. I like the alien movies. I was on the spaceship all last month. I watched them all. She's later rocked. The government continues to release more files on aliens right now. Have you ever seen this? Oh, the UFO? The UFO, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I see that bullshit. Why did you say it like that? Why do you say it like that? What do you say? It's bullshit. You don't believe aliens are real? Do not. No, I don't. I don't. You don't think aliens are real? Me right here. No, me. I don't. I do not. Damn man. Do you think aliens are real? Yeah. I do too. I don't know. I think they're real. It depends on what you believe in. You know what I'm saying? Believe in. The world is so, I mean, the universe is so vast. It's like to think that we're the only living functional. I think it challenges religion. That's why a lot of people can't think about it is it's like, what do you mean? Jesus. What? Aliens. I don't know. I've always thought aliens was real. No, I think we got aliens like amongst us. I'm like one of those people. You don't think that either? It's probably one of them right here. Yeah, I don't believe it. Yeah, I'm going to say that here. I'm going to believe in them. Yeah, me, I don't. He don't know. No, they're the aliens. No, we're not here. If you found out they were around you or if you just found they'd live somewhere else, like if you find out like, I don't know, like, I don't think I'll be afraid. I would just be proven wrong. I'd be like, dang. I can't believe you really don't believe aliens are real. Why don't you believe? Yeah. What makes you not believe? I mean, I just think it's some bullshit. Okay. What you mean? Hey, honestly, there's a feeling. I like that answer because that's it explains everything. It can't be all day. Right? It's no explanation of that. You just kind of go, okay? It's some bullshit. Yeah. Earth's round. Earth's flat. Bullshit. Aliens. Bullshit. You don't think that? Well, you think the earth flat? No, I just think that like when them dudes are all saying them aliens was probing them and they were saying they was like playing with the ass. I don't think you just saying that stuff for no reason. I think that a whole bunch of dudes line up and say, "Butch was touched." It sounds like an alien's really doing that. It sounds like some bullshit. It sounds like someone went to the bar and I'll prove to you. All of them? Nah, that's crazy, right? Oh. And it's the only way they can probe, too. I think only probe through the ass a lot. I don't know. There's some signs behind that, though. It has to be up. What's the signs behind it? It's in brother. I'm just here for this day, brother. I think aliens, I mean, Wimby look kind of like an alien out there, like a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised. They was like, "Wimby's an alien." I'd be like that. Feel like an African? I don't think that makes you so alien. I was just talking about it. I would be in the 7-4. Who would you think is an alien? Like, I don't know what a public figure. Yeah. The way we think about aliens, though, I think it's been shaped by film and I just don't know what exactly they probably look like. They just had them in Miami this past year, y'all. It was like three of them at the mall, some shit. They said that. We're in a good old video. Okay, wait. They said that. I saw a video. I saw a video. Just a glowy video. I saw a video. Somebody, it's a chat, like, I hate to use it. It's an AI explanation of like what visual, like a visual of what they saw. So it's like a, somebody described exactly what they saw. And it's like somebody running in full speed, but their body is like still moot. I don't know how to explain. I see. Yeah, that's how real. That's a crazy take right there. Yeah, man. Somebody run in, but they not. That sounds like some alien shit. I just, they released the files. I mean, but they came from Trump. What is that in there? I didn't come from him. When it's said in the facts, which I was saying in the footage. I was saying shit right now. It's said that they're real. They're real. We've known them about them for a long time. We've communicated with them. They communicated with us. We've used some of their technology for things. I mean, I know it's real, too, because he just be sassy. He's gonna tell us. He just be up to tell, no, Trump. Oh, he pointed at me. I'm standing up for them to drop it out right now. And that's being like this real. I'm like, he definitely will be the person that like exposed this or anything. On accident. Not even on accident. I think he's like, yeah, I'm gonna drop this right now, because I'm doing this bullshit over here. That's what I'm doing. I'm y'all looking to this. And nobody cares. Here we are on the shot. Y'all. Nobody cared, though. So it kind of, it kind of went. I feel like conspiracy started in a barber shop. Yeah. I feel like the barber, somebody walked into a barber shop when they was like, I just saw Will Chamberlain outside. He's the alien. And it was like, I mean, you you grew up in the church. You know, they talked about like angels coming down and sleeping with like the women. That's why some alien shit, too. I ain't gonna lie. I think religion is some bullshit, too. And it buddy, I would have said same thing. The thing is being against the world. I don't know. I don't know. Nothing real. I'm not real. That would not understand more than the aliens. I would've said, I don't know what it is. Why do I have that? It's talking to the slaves so they can control them. Okay. Well, that's why I got to talk to somebody else. That's true. God. Why can't just call bro? Who? God. Who said that? That's true. You go to somebody who says they've been touched by God. They can speak to God. That's Catholic. Oh. First of all, brother, he's joined a black church. You gotta say back to him. You don't have to do that. By the way, I never would have to do that. I didn't grow up going to church, but my parents are really really, or group religious, but I didn't grow up going to church. You didn't. Hey, I'll know. Have you met me before? I have. That makes a lot of sense, actually. God bless you. God bless them, right? Both my parents passed us. The father's son. Oh, what? Yeah. Am. That's why I know I grew up. My dad grew up seven-day adventures. I know that's super, super different than the rest of like Christianity. He's what now? Seven-day Adventists. I never heard of that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get money early. Hey, what? That's not what a rich one is. I love how people play this game. That's what a stadium church they've been doing to Dougie. Seven what? From what I've gathered for my information. Somebody could fact-check me on this. I think it's the closest they do like the Sabbath and they practice like a shit, something else. I think they go to church on Saturday and Saturday Sunday. But that's not like Jewish. Saturday in the Jews. That's not Jewish, right? Isn't brother. I want you to know. Okay. I don't know. Shabbat. Shabbat is not. Yeah. And then Saturday you don't know anything. But I don't know. They have like very similar rules. They ain't like. I don't know. Halal I think as well. I'm not sure. Yeah. I guess religion to me is extreme because I'm not a religious person. I'm spiritual for sure. Like I believe in like, I don't I think religious serves a- the purpose in society, I mean, for sure. - It does create a certain guideline for people to live by. And scientifically, you know, people who are a part of a church or religion, they do live longer. - That's what you do. - That's a rule. - That's a rule. - That's why you have a church. - No, but I'm gonna tell you why it is. - Science proves that? - No, I'm just saying scientifically, like people who go to church do live longer. - What's that, a hypothesis? - Well, it's based on the data collected. - Oh, okay. - All right. - So basically, if you go to church, you live by a certain set of rules. Right? You may be a free spirit. No, yeah, for people who religiously go to church, pun intended, right? Like they there, and they're a certain code that they live by, right? You might end up in a place where they wouldn't, because they just wouldn't go out after a certain time or like, you know, et cetera. Listen, I ain't make it up. Is this real? Is it real? - Are you religious? - I'm more spiritual, you know. I'm more I'm journey of myself. - Cool. Convo's been amazed. And I appreciate you guys are pulling up, Ron's. - Buddy. - Look how chic you are. - Buddy, look like. - Yeah, he went in the wrong part. - I'm Stilo Brum. - I'm Travis Bennett. This is Buddy. That's Ron. Thank you guys for watching. - Best shot. - See y'all Monday. - Oh my legs. - Oh my legs. - Oh my legs. - Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with The Hate Jonas Podcast. 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