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Roman Empire Expert On The Fall of Rome & Why America Is In Trouble | Unsubscribe Podcast 260

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Roman Empire Expert On The Fall of Rome & Why America Is In Trouble | Unsubscribe Podcast 260

The transcript combines a promotional segment for Mavily New York's new setting mist—praised for its non-sticky, long-lasting hydration—with a deep dive into historical narratives. It explores Roman history, focusing on propaganda, the rise and fall of emperors like Augustus and Caesar, and the mythos of figures such as Alexander the Great, who sought to emulate Achilles. The discussion touches on how history is shaped by power, with rulers often altering stories to glorify themselves. It also examines modern parallels, like the current U.S. political and economic climate being compared to the Roman Empire’s decline due to inflation, border instability, and political corruption. The conversation includes memorable anecdotes—such as the myth of Peter Francisco, a giant Revolutionary War soldier with legendary feats—and critiques how history is filtered through dominant narratives. A segment on the Korean War highlights a hero, Hershey Miyamara, who held off enemy attacks alone and earned a top-secret Medal of Honor. The discussion concludes with reflections on transparency in history, emphasizing that today’s audience can access multiple perspectives—like German generals’ memoirs—making it possible to challenge "winner’s history." The tone is conversational, blending humor, personal anecdotes, and historical insight, while underscoring the importance of critical thinking when interpreting the past.

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People pay when you train them in home. Oh yeah. Oh okay, you said door to door and I imagined. No, not knocking doors. I was being like are you fat as do you want me to show you how to do so. So what I would do is I would look at the most expensive zip codes and then I would go to the condo communities because I knew people paid more for their condos in that area and I would knock on doors. Oh, that's really smart. And I would do a fitness survey, ask them questions and sometimes they would hire me other times they'd tell me to fuck off and leave, but I got enough people that I made money. And that's disposable income in those areas. Correct. So you're just correct. You look at the zip codes. You don't just go anywhere. Smart man. Well, I had seen you on different other like interviews and podcasts you've done or whatever where you're always wearing like a suit. And then when he showed up the lunch day, I was like holy shit, this guy's jacked. The joke about going to college and going into Roman studies, but actually turning it into something. It's one of those, I went to school for Roman studies. You're like, ah loser. You made a career out of that. Yeah. Unintentionally though, because that was that men think about the Roman Empire thing popped up and I had been doing like, you know, keynotes and media for years and my wife's like, honey, this is like your time to shine. Like you have a degree in this. You could do something with it. And I ended up doing a show with Cal Fussman. He's a guy that's interviewed like Larry King, like a lot of like well known people. You're wife felt like she hit the fucking lottery when that thing came out. Oh, finally, she I've been listening. She went into about clitoris the emperor for years. She's in her glory right now. Nobody could find him. Dominist clitoris. My favorite Roman, no one was able to find him funny enough. I actually got into Rome because I was really interested in Alexander the Great. And then Roman emperors were obsessed with Alexander the Great. I'm like, oh, why is that? And it's what got me like looking into Rome a lot more. You're like, fuck this. I'm doing seven years school for this. Six? Early Roman Empire propaganda. How did you even like decide to settle on that? So I went to Seton Hall University and they had gotten rid of their classics program in grad school. And they only had a history master's which is I just found out last month they also got rid of their history master's. They only have a history undergrad program now. But I had read this weird article about the first emperor Augustus after he wins the Battle of Actium in 31 BC. And he goes and prays before the sarcophagus of Alexander the Great at that point in time. And there's like a funny story about it that he apparently breaks the nose off or something like that. But I was like, why do you do that? That's really weird. So then I studied his life and I figured I basically discovered that he was using Alexander the Great as a model because Alexander the Great had convinced people who was God to kind of do a very similar thing in his own life. And that was I finished my degree in 2011, did nothing until about three years ago. And now I just talk about Rome all the time. I finished my degree in Roman history then decided to go door to door and show people how to pick up heavy stuff for a living. Well, that's all high school. I was at the end of high school in the middle of the history. I'm assuming, right? Yeah. So it's honors US history and sociology. Damn. What was that experience with actually having the opportunity to use that random degree and it paying off? Because I had to been, it's a joke. It's like always one of those means like I did gothic studies or what? Women studies. Yeah, you're gonna go work at the Roman history factory upstate. It's not a degree. It's not a degree. I would recommend anybody get because you're literally not going to do anything with it. This is like a moonshot to actually happen. But it was pretty cool that I get to do that because even when we travel places, I'll be like reading the inscriptions and like all of a sudden there's like the all these retired people crowding around us. My wife's like, "Oh, we're doing a tour. What's happening?" Oh, what are you talking about? Turn around. You're like, let me tell you a tale. $5. This is the blue plate special tour. I just put the money in the basket. I think through all of our years in business on the internet, we've all used Shopify. I've used it for merch and my skate shop and a couple other businesses. I will actually agree 100% on that. Everything we do is run through Shopify. Even bunkers run through Shopify. Our shoes, which is a separate company, is run through Shopify and they talk together because of Shopify. Shopify runs the world. Did you know Shopify will actually help you design a website also, Cody? I know I didn't know f*ck about starting an online store when I started my career online and Shopify just made it super, super easy for my dumbest. Bring it up as if people haven't heard about my brand. No. That's actually easy, you lie. Shopify helps you find your customers with easy to use email and social media campaigns. Step Cody, what happens if I get stuck? Shopify is always around to share advice with their award-winning 24/7 customer service. Steps of Port Ro, you got my back. And your front. Shopify helps millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the US. From household names like Mattel or Jim Shark to new brands just getting started. Unsub shoes. Unsub merch. Bunker. No f*ck we've all been doing this for over a decade and Shopify is the easiest e-commerce platform we've ever used. I think every single one of us has used Shopify at one point. I think all our businesses right now are using Shopify. Don't accept mine, but that's because it's done so. Can't do that. Just one of them can't. Turn those dreams into SFX Cha-ching. Shopify new sell sounds. And give them the best shot at success with Shopify. Dine up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com/unsubpod. Shopify.com/unsubpod. Alexander the Great, you studied him. And undergrad I studied a lot of him. And what was one of the craziest I've so. I love this period of history because a lot of people don't know it. I know that's why we brought Mr. King Trout on today who's like, "Oh, I actually know some of this sh*t." Also a lot about Alexander the Great. Yeah. Cool. So that's the name of Macedon. Nick is the historian for generals and everything. There's no guns involved. I don't know sh*t. So what was the big hook out the gate that was like, "Okay, I'm really interested in this." Because the interesting thing about him is he wants to be the philosopher king. Like he wants to be somebody that kind of like brings literacy and makes the world a better place. And then he kind of like goes over this knife's edge and he's like, "I'm just going to maniacally kill everybody." And I'm kind of like, "What makes somebody like that?" I find that really interesting. And the hard thing about him, he kind of starts drinking his own sauce, if you know what I mean. Like he gets to the point where his mother growing up, his mother Olympias is telling him, "Oh, well, you're, you know, you're not the son of Philip II, who's his father, Philip II of Macedon." You're actually, you come from the line of Heracles, which is what the Romans are called Hercules. He's like, "Oh, okay, well, you know, I got this divine thing going." And then after he conquers Egypt, he enters this temple called Zussamon. He's created as greeting son of God. And after that point, he starts really believing that Philip is in this father. He starts kind of believing he is kind of divinely the person ruling. And when he conquers Babylon, there's this thing they do called proscanesis. And that's where you don't bow before somebody. You put your entire body on the ground. He starts making his generals and the guys under him do that. And they're kind of like, "We grew up with you. This is weird. Like, why are you doing this?" And Claydus the Black, who had been his father's top general, and kind of one of his like subguise, starts yelling at him at a dinner party. Alexander's drunk and just kills the guy. So he gets to this point where he's started believing this so hard that now he's going to do anything he can do to start living as a human god. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Delta mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue, just plump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Maybe it's Mabelie. Then I'm like, "How does somebody get like that?" So then I read this article about Augustus, and already knowing what I know about Alexander, I'm like, "Well, this guy knew something." Like, he understood propaganda and how it works. It's like Kim Jong-Un. It's like, I can't even wrap my head around. You're having homies, like, unsub. We've all together, and then one day Nick's like, "Hey, why aren't you guys bowing to me?" Bro, it's Kim Jong-Un. I was like, "I planted every tree in this country. Also, I invented burritos, [BLANK_AUDIO] - 18 holes in one, 18 holes in one, 27 under par. - And I got 99.6% of the vote, does other 0.4% they're dead. - Yeah, Nick starts this and then in the beginning of the next episode. - We had a part with Nick, I'm so sorry. (laughing) No, it's straight up like I invented burritos, Nick. No, you didn't, back. (laughing) - King truck, Nick invented burritos, guys. I didn't know idea. - I really like being alive. - I'm pretty sure this dude invented burritos. - The next episode opens, you guys are just both on the ground in front of him bowing. - 'Cause I based on Alexander the Great's history too, I would have to be Nick's twink boyfriend. - Oh, you're a Feistian. - Yeah. - Didn't he get killed in Alexander head like the people who killed him, like their entire village completely raised to the ground or am I misremembering? - No, you're not wrong. It was, Batis was the king that actually was leading the army that gets him killed. And the weird thing about Alexander is he was really, really into the Iliad. And there was this story in Plutarch that he slept with a copy of the Iliad like under his pillow because he was so into the Iliad. And if you look at the different things that he does in his life, he's trying to be. - Explanation of Iliads really quickly. - So it's a song that's made into a book. It's supposedly written by this guy named Homer, but if you're looking to it, Homer's actually like somewhere between three and nine people and it's a story that's passed down over time. And it's about this Greek hero Achilles at the Trojan War. And Alexander like tries really hard to be Achilles, like in different things he does in his life. And Achilles, after he kills Hector, he drags the body behind his chariot. So Alexander kills Batis and he pulls in behind his chariot because he's trying to be like Achilles. So a lot of the things he does in his life is to be like Achilles. - No shit. - Yeah. So when that happens with Hephaestian, he kills Batis and drags him behind his chariot. - Hmm. And who, this is a, it's his boyfriend? - Well, it's his male life partner. They were real good friends. - You've never seen the Oliver Stone's Alexander? Would you like to let him? - No, I've never, I've never watched anything. - Is it like the new Napoleon? - No, it's actually really good. They make the relationship between a college feral who's Alexander and Hephaestian, that's Jared Leto, incredibly weird. It probably was less close to their lovers in the movie. And it would have been less like that though there might have been some of that, if that makes sense. - I'm getting too conflicted stories right now. Trout thinks, "Home, you like the ween." - And you're like, it wasn't it, it wasn't it kind of, it was like, "Yeah, he's my boy and some of those who fuck each other in the ass." - But that was, that was Greece in that period of time. - Yeah. - The city of Thebes had the most powerful military in Greece at that point in time, 'cause Greece isn't like a united territory. It's a bunch of city states. It's why the Greeks couldn't really conquer anything, 'cause they were all kind of like fighting each other. - Spartans with the Indians. - But the best military force was the Thebans, and they had this group of a hundred men that were called the Sacred Band, and it was 50 gay lovers. - That's why we, that's unsub. - And I guess so. And the reason that they supposedly did that is because they would fight harder for the man next to them for that particular reason, rather than just, you know, "Hey, this is my buddy." - I mean, I kind of, I don't know what it was once it was dead. - I would not, that would be a weird military thing. Just showing up to basing like, "Okay, that guy above you, you are fucking him." - Yeah, I think that was your battle buddy. - I think so, I don't, I don't mind. - I don't mind, I don't mind. - I think that was already gay. So it's kind of the concept of, like, - That's not the point. It's kind of like, so guess what? - It's kind of the concept of everybody. - Imagine how much harder you would fight if Savannah was on the battlefield with you. You know what I mean? - That's the point. - It's a lot of fighting. - That's the point. - It's like arguing. - It's basically your fighting, so your girlfriend doesn't die and that's the point. - What is this pressure? There's a gay club? Like an old gay club and that's the recruiting situation. - And you can pull up? - Yeah. - In Greek civilization though, like, not that it was okay. That was, there was a lot more of that than there was in Roman civilization. And Rome becomes a lot more, so the Greeks called themselves Helians, right? That was their name for themselves. So in the second century, Rome becomes more Hellenized or more like the Greeks. But early on, like during the Roman Republic, they saw Greeks as like feminine men. So to be called Greek, for a certain period of time was an insult later on that's gonna change because they're kind of all a little Greek, if that makes sense. - And that's when Hellenite, dude. The Hellenites is a good shirt. You just don't know what they're doing. - There's this, the best time in Rome, the famous historian Edward Gibbon calls the five good emperors, the best time in Rome. And the reason they were different is because they didn't have any natural born sons to be the next emperor because a lot of them were playing for the other team a little bit, like the one that was really famous for that was Hadrian. And he had a male lover named Antinuous and everybody kind of knew about this and when Antinuous died. - Oh, sorry, they had five gay emperors back to back. - Maybe, maybe not. - I bet the property value is the fucking rough. - The last one's Marcus Aurelius though. The last one's Marcus Aurelius though and he had a kid. - What was the real estate value of the Coliseum? How much did it go up during that time period? - He gentrified Rome. (all laughing) - Used to be a bad neighborhood, but ever since the least game-perors came in. (all laughing) - But they didn't have natural born you. (all laughing) - The Emperor's New Groove. - They just went home for Easter what used to be the hood. A lot of pride flags, a lot of coffee shops. They didn't good work. - But the thing that they did different is since they didn't have any sons, they would find the next closest person to them and adopt them to be the next emperor. So for five emperors, that worked really, really well, but like Hadrian was kind of very much playing for the other team, if that makes sense. - Yeah, oh, we got it. (all laughing) - He built that wall to keep all the women out. (all laughing) - Well, 'cause he didn't, Julius, he didn't have any, he adopted his nephew Augustus, right? - So Julius Caesar didn't have any children. Augustus was his great nephew. He's Guyus Octavius. - Oh, great nephew. - Julius Caesar's an interesting one though, 'cause there was, and I forget the king's name, but in his youth, he was at this one local king's court a lot, like not a Roman, but like a provincial. - When you say he was at his court. - And that was the legend about him that they would, 'cause Caesar was also a womanizer. So they would say he was a husband to every woman and a wife to every man. That was one of the things they would use to kind of like, really, that was one of the propaganda things about Caesar that his enemies would use to talk about him because he was very often to this king's court and they kind of didn't know what was happening at the court, so maybe not. - So he's a man that just blows you a plug? - I don't know. That sounds like they could just be hanging out, playing video games or whatever. I don't know, that's great. - St. Genesis was very notorious. - Very, very popular. - I'm in 38. - I talked about the Sonic. - Whatever they played back then, you know? - Yeah, I talked about this. - I talked about this, I talked about this, you know. There was a new article that came out when the headline was oldest gay couple ever discovered and it was like Pompeii or some shit. It was like two bodies and they like did the forensics and they're like, oh, they're men and they died hugging and they're like, - But they were running from a volcano. - They got fossilized and it's like, this is why men don't show emotions. - You're running from a volcano, you're gonna die. - I mean in King Trout, there's a cash storm rolling in. - You know what a volcano was and we thought the world was ending and I hugged my brother and then they dig us up 3,000 years gay. - I know what I'm doing if you guys died. - Running the other way. - I was like, they were gay. - There's that famous meme of the discovery of them or whatever that same article. And it's like, you know, your bro fucking entered Latin name here. You fought arm and arm with him for, you know, 25 years in the, as a centurion, your children are named or your first born son is named after him. Ash cloud barreling in at hundreds of miles an hour. You know that death is coming. Embrace your brother one last time. 2,000 years later they dig up your skeletons. - Gay. (laughing) - Gotta love it. - So fucking dope. - What are your, - Hold on, we're still on Julia Caesar. - Oh yeah, go on. - Is the story about him getting kidnapped and then criticizing his kidnappers, Trill? - Yes. So he's kidnapped by pirates. - I like his story. - He's kidnapped by pirates. And the weird thing about it too, 'cause this is in like Plutarch, the writer talks about this a lot. And the weird thing is like, I have this picture in my head of them like living on a beach, like working out together because they talk about like, the way he's like, he's kind of like buddies with them after they kidnapped him. And then he's kind of like, would joke with him. I'm gonna have you crucified. I'm gonna have you crucified one day. So he gets rescued and he petitions the senate to have these guys crucified, 'cause he has to keep his promise in the senate says no. So he raises private money and has them crucified. - So the part that I always remembered was, I thought that he was like upset with how much they asked for ransom and then yeah. - Yeah, they asked for ransom and he was kind of like, Caesar is worth much more than that. So he asked them to raise the ransom. - So sad. (laughing) - I just love the concept of the game. I'm on sale, what is the price? I'm a Julian Caesar. - Being on a ship with your kidnappers and being like, I'm having fun now, but I'm gonna have you all. - The funny thing about Caesar though is like, so he has a patricity. meaning like he has like a like a rich name, but his father was like a land speculator, and he lost all the family's wealth. So Caesar's actually broke his entire career, and he's actually living in the poor part of Rome. And his entire career, he's actually borrowing money in order to do the things he's doing, one of the big people he bars it from his market's crisis. And a lot of the move Caesar makes in his career is because if I lose this election, I owe that guy all that money I don't have. So he keeps making moves because he's broke as a joke, and he has to pay this guy for everything he owes him. Because you basically raise money, you'd bribe people, you'd get elected, and then while you're elected, you'd do corrupt things to make more money, and then you'd pay off the people that gave you the money to get elected. - Thankfully, that doesn't happen anymore. - It doesn't. - Amen. - Was it not at all? - Caesar who just like repeatedly setting off on campaigns like one after the other after the other, just to like build up his name. - So it wasn't one after the other after the other. So in 59 BC, he's what's called a console. And Rome had this idea that one man shouldn't have power 'cause it had previously been a kingdom before it's a republic. And he was one of the consoles. You would have power for a year, and then he becomes what's called a pro-console, a console outside of Rome. And he uses nine years to then go cock or go. And he wants to run for console again, because you could run for console every 10 years, but Rome has a culture of getting elected in person. And his political rival, Cato the Younger, has basically been like, trumping up these charges. Like he'd come back to Rome, we're gonna arrest you. - What was he charged with? - Corruption, because there was a trope about Rome in terms of the way the politics worked. That your first year was to get out of debt. Your second year was to build wealth, and your third year was to avoid prosecution for the wealth that you built. Because they were all kind of playing the same dirty game. But he petitions the Senate to get elected, not having to do it in person. And Cato has that canceled. He's like, you know, you still have to come back to Rome. And that's where the whole idea of coming across the Rubicon comes from. - Oh, okay. - Because he comes across the Rubicon with one of his legions. He has nine legions at that point in time. He leaves eight of them, takes his nine across the river. And then when he gets in a Rome, his enemies just leave. And he basically gets the city. But that was, it wasn't a bunch of campaigns, it was a one extended campaign. - Goal being like modern day friends. - France, parts of Germany, parts of Belgium, it's kind of all like in this similar area for him. - Did you know one man every hour, every day is diagnosed with testicular cancer? - And 2026, some women. - But it's April, you know what that means? - Ball cancer month, boom. That's why we wanted to take a second and talk about the importance of men health issues. And what Manscape actually does to help with that or combat it. 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That was gonna be my question, didn't he shift it into the Empire, or when does that begin? - So, the last 100 years of Rome, there's a historian named Ronald Simon, and he calls the last 100 years the Roman Civil War, because what happens for that 100 years is, it's a bunch of politicians basically just breaking the law, and they're all fighting each other in the streets. And Caesar's kind of the last man to come up on top, but he gets assassinated. And then his great nephew Augustus, who he adopts in his will, and Mark Antony, go after the assassins of Caesar and have them killed, so that is two of them left. So then Augustus goes after Antony, he's killed, and he becomes the man on top. So Augustus is actually the one that creates what the Empire becomes, but it had been a power vacuum for a hundred years before that. - Oh, really? - Yeah. - So, prior to, you said it was a kingdom in the beginning, like what time frame are we with? - So, 753 BC, it's found that it is a kingdom. 509, it becomes a republic. And then, it becomes an empire, this is debated, but somewhere between 31 and 23 BC. - Augustus. - And then it's a, with Augustus, it's an empire until 476 AD. The Eastern Roman Empire, which becomes the Byzantine Empire, they wouldn't have called them Byzantines, they would have called themselves Romans, that goes to 1453. - So, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - So we were talking about the-- - We were talking about beforehand, like the Holy Roman Empire was actually like, the Pope looking at the fact that there's a power vacuum in the West, and he could kind of be the guy on top, so he would crown Charles Main and now he's on top. - Right. - Missed everything, 'cause my-- - Let's say I wouldn't wait for you to get back to his prompts. - My brain was just like, "Focus, fakes, what going wrong?" - Is it all Roman history? You're like any other history, like eras? - I love lots of history. - Lots of history, like we just did some civil war history with my kids, we took 'em to Gettysburg, which was fun. - Let's go. - And they're not old, so it's like, we take 'em to Gettysburg and it's like, we took 'em to Devil's Den, and we took 'em to a little round top, 'cause we're gonna skip everything in the middle, and we're just gonna show you where it's starting where it's finished, 'cause that's what you have the attention span for. (laughing) - Really smart, which is what's your favorite part of history in American history? - American history. I don't know, 'cause I also like the conspiratorial side of things as well, you know what I mean? - Go on, my other channel's called Hidden Forces in History, so we look at the power structures behind history. So like-- - The Jews got it. - No, so Charles V, who's a Holy Roman Emperor, the way you become Holy Roman Emperor is there seven Prince electors that elect you, and the guy he's running against doesn't have the same backing he does. He has a guy behind him who's a banker named Johann Fuga, but if you actually look at his name, it's Jacob Fugger, is the way it's actually spelt. But the German pronunciation is Jakob Fuga. - Oh, Jake Fugger. - He actually, he's a Catholic priest of the size he doesn't wanna be a priest, and he becomes this like money man. And so basically he bribes the seven Prince electors, gets Charles V elected, and then all the weird things he does in his career, you're like, why'd he do that? Well, Jakob Fuga was gonna make money off it. So like if you look at kind of history, there's so many things behind what you're observing that happen for weird reasons, right? So I think for me, that's what I'm always looking at, is why do weird things happen in history the way they happen? - God sure. Speaking of words being pronounced differently through translation, I had a question for Connor. - Oh God. - I don't, I just saw this on the thread. I have not checked to see if it's real, but I thought it was very funny. Apparently, you know how in the Bible when angels appear, they always say don't be afraid. - Be not afraid. - Be not afraid. - Apparently a more literal translation to what they said was stop screaming, it's fine. (laughing) - I hope that. - Which I hope is true, because it's so much funnier. - But we know what they're right to do. - And when you know what they look like. (laughing) - You can't sit in terror. - Like if you look at yourself, stop screaming. - But it is imagined like a jaded angel. - Yes, yes, I know how I look. Stop screaming, it's fine every time. (laughing) - And angels have been there. - You turn around all happy because you think angel and it's floating eyeballs. (laughing) - I'm not holding wings. - Shooting everywhere. (laughing) - Sixteen wheels rotating around each other. - Is it guilty to say the wheel? - Yeah. - Get this every time. (laughing) - Chill, bro. (laughing) - Are we done? I gotta tell you something really important. - Why would you choose that for? (laughing) - Wanted to be relatable. - I don't know what the wheel's for. (laughing) - Surely after the wheel wasn't invented. (laughing) - Vuking. - Terror, terror. - What? - You got, do you watch any of Nick's content? - I don't, I apologize. - Oh, dude, good, perfect. These, so Nick is our historian for, especially anything with guns, as he said. It's a war and there's pupues. - If there's a story about a farm boy from somewhere in America that went over to Europe and killed a bunch of people, Nick will talk about it. - I probably know it, yeah. - That's my whole thing. - I do like super close up, like biographies kind of were heroes. - It's like the sniper character from Saber Prime Ryan. - Yeah, which is like an amalgamation of a lot of different people. So like the scope shot is based off Carlos Hathcock and I'm actually, me and PewVue, one of my best friends are one of the people that went and actually recreated that shot for the first time ever, 'cause Mythbusters thought it would be cool to get up three times in a row. So yeah, stuff like that. It's a good time. Well, what's your latest video that you just released? The ones that are coming up also that would. So I did Hershey Miyamara, the only Medal of Honor that was a classified as top secret. That was my latest video and then right now I'm working on, yeah. Yeah. How do you. We're awarding you this medal for. Shh. It was how we can't say it. During the Korean War, he's got like a whole story, but he was attached to the 442nd World War Two. Never got to see combat. World War Two ended and he decided to be an Army reserve and then Korea starts. He ships off to Korea, goes through a bunch of training, gets sent out to Korea, has multiple combat experiences and then he goes out to Hong Nam to help evacuate the Marines from the Chosen Reservoir and then they send them back out and at this point in the world, they're basically just like trying to hold the perimeter of South Korea for peace negotiations to occur. So they stick him out, overlooking this river and they'd penetrated into North Korea and then they had to backtrack to this river and they were going to try to hold him at this river. So they left him and he was a squad leader for a machine gun element. So he had like, I think he had his machine gun element which was him plus 12 guys and then he had four extra riflemen with them and they're just overlooking this fucking ridge, they're looking a river and the Chikom's attack at night, just overwhelming numbers. Half of his machine gunner's dip and abandon him and he's stuck there with the other half and his, his original machine gunner is just like, I'm leaving and bales. So he man that machine gun by himself and he's credited with killing like 40 guys by himself with this machine gun position and then the gun jams, he can't get it on jam. So he blows it up with a hand grenade and then jumps out of the trench and there was like 10 guys left in the wave, kills 10 dudes by himself with an in one grain and a bayonet, runs over to his secondary machine gun position. His guys are still there but some of them have abandoned and the guys that abandoned were the ones that knew how to operate the machine gun efficiently. So he starts manning that machine gun and then once it becomes apparent that like they're not going to be able to hold this position, he tells his other guys to dip and he holds off the enemy as long as he can and he holds them off so long by himself that they assume he's dead and start dropping white phosphorus rounds on his location. So then he has to abandon his position and it's dark as shit out at night. So he takes off running, runs into another communist guy, he said it was the biggest guy he's ever seen in his life, kills that guy with a bayonet, takes grenade trap on this fight and then he ends up getting caught up in a barbed wire entanglement and then is just trying to hide at this point and then they end up capturing him and he ends up spending 26 months in a POW camp in North Korea and because they never found his body but they found all the fucking dead people like this is his dudes made it out. So all of his guys were like last time we saw him, he was engaging 100 enemies by himself and then they went back and they're like, oh, there's the 60 dead dudes but Hershey's not here. He might still be alive. So he got awarded the Medal of Honor but there was a slight chance that he was a POW so they had it classified as top secret and then 26 months later he gets brought back and makes it ends up coming back home. And they're like, what the this guy's alive. Yeah. And you can't tell anybody's got the Medal of Honor. Well no, he can now it was just they made it top secret just so because obviously if they were doing press releases and shit of like, oh hey, the one Japanese guy killed 50 people and he was a POW. The North Koreans had taken out on him. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. But once he was brought back it was declassified and then he was a hero. Gee. Yeah. Yeah. That would have sucked me. And then news. It's like Medal of Honor, SIPP, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm in the actual prison right now. This is not good. Negotiate it. Murder tore. So much more badass than ancient battles like Alexander the Great was so good because he made his spears 19 feet long. So it's kind of like, dude, we can stop them from further away. I'm a poke for brother. Like this guy is like, stabbing guys with a bayonet and he's like, no, our spears are just longer. That's why we win. So we've invented longer stick. The furthest I ever go back is the Revolutionary War and I've been trying to do it. I've wanted to do a video on this guy forever. But there's like no information on him and half of its myth. But I finally tracked down this old ass book. I had to pay an outrageous amount of money to get it. But there was a journalist that started working on it in 1945 and worked on everything he could find about this guy for 40 years. So I'm halfway through the book now. I'm hoping there's enough to get a video out of it sitting on the table. Peter Francisco. Virginia giant, aka America's Hercules, Washington's Hercules, six foot, six foot six, 270 pounds, like Aaron Judge, the average, the average soldier at this point in time was five, five. And he's six foot six, two, 60. He was an orphan from a Pacific Island. He was an orphan from an island. He's Portuguese. And he just like shows up at a doc in Virginia one day and gets adopted by a judge and turns into this fucking mammoth of a dude and ends up fighting in the American Revolution. George Washington knows him by name. George Washington said we might not want the revolution without him. And according to legend, we can't a bunch of museums, the or the museum that supposedly had his sword said they lost it in a fire. But apparently George Washington had a claim more made for Peter Francisco that was five feet long. And the average man couldn't unsheathe it. He's just like, I'm shopping dudes in half apparently he killed your flashlight on dinner. I know. The chair hits my pocket. I have a like the replica of the sword. It's fucking massive, but apparently he killed 11 dragons at the Battle of Guilford's courthouse with it. Yeah. What's a Jogoon? It's a horse. A horse mounted infantry, basically like they ride up to battle and then demount. And the battles are like mechanized infantry of the day, basically. They don't fight on horseback necessarily. Don't pass that. That's the replica of what they think the sword looked like. Wow. It's like almost taller than that guy. Yeah. It's a five foot tall broad sword. So wait. That's taller than five feet. How do you swing that guy? That guy would be five three. It's probably like a six foot blade all together. Let me see. Do it. Like how tall is that guy? Five five probably. I don't know. Five six. Doesn't look too quarterly tall. I do. Look at that background. Look at that chair. I can't imagine because there's a regular horse heavy. That's like a six foot blade. So the legends are anywhere from five to six feet. I'm being conservative and saying five feet. But yeah, five to six foot broadsword that George Washington had commissioned for him. And then, you know, Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw, the strong man. So they had a show a couple years ago on Discovery Channel or something. And the whole thing of the show was like four of the strongest men in the world. And they would travel around the world and try to recreate famous feats of strength. So they would do like the the shit that circus strong men would do and all this different stuff. One of the challenges they have is to carry a canon on their shoulder up a hill. Because apparently Peter Francisco did that. Like the yoke on the canon got hit, but the canon was still good. So how much is the barrel of a canon way allegedly 1100 pounds? Wow. I don't know. But it's like one of those things where it's like, I don't know, you hear all the stories of like the mom that lifted and moved a car to save her kid or whatever. Like in the heat of the moment, dude, that fucking big, maybe. But so I don't know. I'm still like doing all the research on it, but it's a I couldn't imagine like how do you do that? Like I've deadlifted some heavy stuff, but throw out a canon on your shoulder at 1100 pounds. Yeah. Just throw a Harley Davidson up a much older walk up the hill. Yeah. Nick, tell us about your cash app experiences, but keep it clean. I use it to send my sister money sometimes. That's pretty clean. Yeah. Gonna help you to have a more interesting story, but no, that's cool. That's fine. I use cash app all the time. You know, genuinely, whether it's sometimes me and Brandon go out for dinner and drinks to have a great time. He doesn't consider it a date. He calls it friends hanging out. I consider it a date, and I take that a little bit personally. So when we leave, I bill him on cash app, which is weird because I pay for the bill anyway. Think of it like a fishing license. What? King Trout. Boy, am I the catch. Anyway, all of this is possible through cash app. How interesting you bring up cash app, Brandon. I have so many things to say about it. Cash app just released a new status program to follow the way people spend money called cash app green. And it locks new ways for you to pay. Get rewarded and easily grow or manage your money on your terms. Now when you spend at least $500 a month on cash app pay or the cash app card, you unlock cash app green. That unlocks benefits, including up to $200 and free overdraft coverage. Higher borrow limits and custom personalized cashback offers every Friday at places you love to shop. Turn everyday shopping into status with cash app green. Download cash app today or visit cash.app/new. There you'll learn more about this and other great features which are launching now. Now, for limited time, new cash app customers can unlock $10 by using the discount code cash app 10 in their profile at sign up. And send $5 to a friend with them 14 days. Just put that in your profile at sign up and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply, cash app is a financial service platform, not a bank banking services provided by cash app bank partners, prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, member FDIC, cash app reigned over draft coverage, borrow cash back, offers, and promotions provided by cash app. A block, ink, brand, visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Prior to modern media, a lot of that shit gets kind - Makes me think a sling blade. - Well, that's the thing that's a thing that's like difficult about it. - Well, I haven't done the video yet. It's like, there's so much like, okay, maybe that's a myth. Maybe it's not. I'm sure it's been, you know. - I was gonna say, 'cause that probably comes up a shit load in like ancient history. - Oh, absolutely. - Yeah, well, and aren't there a bunch of historians that we'll talk about? I can't remember. I know there were like a few big historians of the time, but they were like telling stories. Basically, it's like my uncle heard a story from a guy who he heard from somebody else that this happened. - The writer, I was talking about Plutarch. He's Greek by background, but he's writing about Greeks and Romans, and the purpose in his stories he's telling is to teach a lesson. So he'd alter the story, like if he thought that guy was a bad guy to show you how bad he is, or if he's a good guy to show you how good he is, so they would alter the story. And part of the problem is too, especially with like, Roman history, is a lot of it's written, like if you look at the first emperor Augustus, Titus Livia, his famous Roman history was written during that time, the needs written during that time, they're written to make the emperor look good. And that's one of the problems with history is, if the person who's in power is being talked about negatively, well, you could die, right, that's a real problem. So looking at ancient history, the problem we have is, a lot of the history we have is likely to make somebody else look good or bad, and 90% of it doesn't exist anymore, because it's written on things that don't survive. - I think about this all the time. I can't wait 'til 500 years from now, and there's somebody like you that has a degree in memes, from the 20 tens, based on the quantity of negative versus positive memes, who's a very controversial figure. - Everybody love this guy. - If you look at Kim Jong-un, if you, every other piece of history was instantly deleted, other than the North Korean bits of history, the greatest golfer that ever lived. - That's why everybody's like, "Damn, this guy was fucking dope." - 18, 21. - Was this one for? - That might be mine. - 'Cause you imagine if the only thing that survives about Trump is like the art of the deal or something like that? (laughing) - You have all, he was writing books. - He even, he was a scholar. - A gentleman of a scholar. - Korean war, I don't, just going back to that, line that they held. I don't think a lot of people realize it was, if you watch the wave of troops, US, South Korea, we push through, we almost get to China and then the million man army, his China shows up to party, and then they come down and then you hit that line. I'm guessing it was probably right around that. - Yeah, so it was, it was a- - Or the DMZ. - So like they pushed in, they cut the Marines off at the Chosen Reservoir, and he was part of the evacuation that got them out, and then there's kind of like, there's kind of a lull because it's in winter. So like his battle happens like as winter's ending, and like their big spring offensive is kicking back off, and that's what shoves a line back to like where it is now. So like, I mean, it was literally just Marines and Army dudes sitting on top of hills with recoilless rifles and machine guns mowing down wall after wall of people until they came to agreement. I fucking, the forgotten war. We haven't done any wars like that in God knows how long. - They got. - Yeah. - They got, we actually haven't done war since World War II. - Do you know how fat and mad I would be if I was an infantry dude in Korea? - Oh, yeah. - Just the notion of like, I'm sorry, I'm freezing my balls off on top of this hill with a machine gun, and you motherfuckers have nuclear warheads and could just end this. - What are we doing right now? - I'd be pissed. - I'd be pissed. Why? - Who was that? - I don't know anything. - Who's the general, is that MacArthur? - Yeah, I wanted an irradiated sea of cobalt, which I was talking to my grandpa served during Korea. He wasn't in Korea. I literally can't say what he was doing during the time 'cause I'm pretty sure it's still top secret, but I remember my grandma was telling me she would check the news like every day during the Korean War just to kind of keep updated on it, and at the time everybody understood MacArthur to be like a fucking insane person. - Did he want to drive to China? - MacArthur was extremely unpopular ever since he abandoned his guys at the Philippines. Like a lot of World War II vets still call him dug out, dug. That was the nickname they gave him when he fucking dipped on his guys. And a lot of like the positive PR and fanboys that you see now are after he came out with his book and all of his bullshit self-aggrandizing himself. - I know a decent amount about Truman and I know Truman hated his fucking guts. - Yeah, Truman couldn't fucking stand him. It's like, I don't know, I still get heat in the comments sections from MacArthur fanboys. Like he didn't abandon his men, he was ordered to leave. Like I don't give a fuck. Like he was also ordered not to march the military within 40 miles of China. And cause the entire issue with the Korean War but he did. Like no shit. - But I think that's one of the major problems with history is like number one how it's told and number two, like do we actually know what happened, right? Like I think so often it's either to make somebody look good or bad or whatever it might be. And we don't know what actually occurred a lot of times. - So because this is the first time we actually get to see it live because it's hard to hide it when and they still are doing a fantastic job of pushing narratives. So it was like the classic Norm McDonald bit where he's sitting there and he goes, I was reading a history book and wouldn't you know it? - The good guys won every time. (laughing) - So I always, I always, 'cause like all my shits like very pro-America, raw raw whatever. So like the argument I always get when I'm arguing with like communist sympathizers or the people that are like, oh the USSR actually won World War II or whatever, it's always, well that's just the American sources and you're trusting the Americans. And I think it's cool being an American that you actually have a decent rebuttal to that to the winner's right history argument because America is kind of the first instance ever in human history that I'm aware of. I can get on Amazon right now and I can have copies of war memoirs written by German generals from World War II shipped to my house in 48 hours and hear the entire war from their perspective. Like this is the first time in human history where you can, you're allowed to just publish and get that information and read all the perspectives. So like I don't think you can claim, oh you're just listening to winner's version of history 'cause like no, we're not. And we can read their perspective too. It's just they fucking lost. Sorry. (laughing) - I was wanting to bring this up so much 'cause I was wondering if y'all would butt heads on it. But I know you've talked about how like the fall of the Roman Empire kind of mirrors what's going on in modern day America. I just was wondering if you could expand on that and then see next opinion 'cause I know Nick will disagree with you. - Is he gonna crush me? - No. - No, I don't, I have to hear the opinion. I don't know where this would be going on. - Well, so like, but I'm also a believer that history doesn't repeat but it rhymes, right? So I don't think it's an exact, an exact foil. Like when people ask me is this the fall, the Republic or the fall of the Empire, and this might be where you disagree with me, I don't know, I tend to think we've been an empire for quite a while. And when I look at 1913 is kind of a pivotal year for that 'cause there's three key things that happened that year. The Federal Reserve Act passes the 17th Amendment passes which means state legislatures no longer vote for senators and income tax passes that year. And Wilson was probably our worst president. But the progressive era dramatically changes America. And what's happened is-- - It might be FDR, but go ahead. - Oh! - Wilson, Woodrow Wilson is the devil. - No, FDR's pretty bad, but Wilson kind of started the ball rolling, that makes sense. And the sad part is some of that as you can blame. Teddy Roosevelt for that 'cause he runs third party but it is what it is. But so for, in my opinion, I think we are kind of more in an empire sage and if you look at that, once again, not a direct foil, but if you look at what was happening in Rome in their third century 'cause Rome falls in the fifth century, but the third century is kind of what makes everything go wrong. They're at 15,000% inflation by 284 AD. They are no longer controlling their borders. And the politicians are no longer doing things that are good for the future. They're doing things that are good for right now. And when I look at that, I do see a lot of those things happening now and that is one of the things that concerns me 'cause we're not at 15,000% inflation. But also how we report the inflationary numbers isn't correct. We do year over year inflation. And there's a lot of things we don't include. Like we don't include building materials, there's other things we don't include, which would show us the actual numbers. And if you wanted to look at, I think like, when I ran the math, it was like 1790 to this year, we're somewhere between 3,000 and 3,500% inflation. So we're not at 15,000%, but we are destroying our money. And our currency doesn't really have any real value. We can't control our borders. And we have politicians that are just kind of fighting amongst each other. So when I look at that, to me, it reminds me a lot of what you saw in kind of a late stage role when it's in this decay period. I don't disagree with that, but don't worry. We're gonna shift over to crypto. It'll be fine. (laughs) - So wouldn't it be more like analogous to you? - Are you crypto fan or not a crypto fan? - Uh, I think it's gonna go horribly wrong. I like the idea. - I think it's like a, you know, I don't trust it because we don't know who Nakamura was. Like I just, I'm not a big fan of-- - Oh, that's big coin in particular. I don't think so. - I'm not like crypto scares me because you also look at what they're doing in China with currency where it's like, oh, you're a bad little China man today. You can't get on the bus. It's like, it's a real problem. - I think they're gonna replace a swift banking system with stable coins and then offload trillions of dollars of debt to the entire global economy. - They started replacing Swift last year. What do you mean to cheer about that? They launched something called the FedNow system to get off of, could get the US off of Swift. And it basically is a digital currency which they're starting to push over the next few years. They did a press conference and everything they announced that it's called the FedNow system. And it's to move over to more of a digital system. - I think they're gonna try to use this to replace the petrol dollar and then they're gonna try to make the entire world run off of US currency for everything. - I could see that happening. - Right, because like you could go pretty much anywhere in the world and US cash, people will take it right now. - At the moment. - So if you were to just swap it out and have US stable coins where a cryptocurrency where every dollar is an American dollar. - You're saying like have the federal government implemented a cryptocurrency? - Yes. - Okay. - They're doing that in Europe. They're doing the digital Europe. - Have the federal government implement a US dollar cryptocurrency and then you allow all these people in countries that would, their currency's worthless. And then it becomes, oh, if you have a smartphone, you can invest in US dollars. You can buy, it's a safer form of buying power than anything else that these people have access to. - So that's the bond system but with digital currency. - But what if there's an on P? - But on an individual level, right? Because right now you can restrict it like a kind of like tradition in wherever in South America. He can't get his hands on all that shit. Whereas right now, or if you were to do this, if he has a smartphone, he can get on the internet and buy US dollars and keep it on his phone. And his government can't take it from him. His government can't do anything about it. And then he can order some online or do whatever with his money. And then you basically just increased the amount of people carrying US dollars, which is just a US debt at this point. So then you offloaded millions of dollars of debt. You get everybody working on your system. And then the Swift banking system, you could turn off that for a country. Now you could turn it off, but this is the downside. - Well, that's where bricks came from. - Now you as a lot of the countries were looking at what was happening with US kind of weaponizing currency. And they're like, all right, well, we'll form the bricks. Now they're not trading in treasury bonds or anything yet. But that would be kind of the next level, but bricks is something. - Right, but this is why I think it's gonna be awful is because then you can weaponize the monetary system on an individual level. If you get everybody in the world using the same currency and it's all digital, that's when you can start implementing all the crazy plans that you hear about with like the economic forum of like, oh, actually-- - This is a dystopian as fuck. - It is 10 minute cities and stuff. - Right, but it's gonna be one of those things where it's like, oh, they can track everything. They can track what you're buying. And it's like, oh, you've already bought 12 pounds of hamburger and that's your meat quota for the month. So now your money won't work for buying meat. - You just terrified George Orwell. He's scared. - Yeah, works you just pushing this a moment ago? - No, I said, I like the idea. I don't think it's gonna-- - Oh, yeah, the implementation is terrifying. - They just did that with the grocery store in Australia where it tracks each individual that comes in. It knows because they sell it to the government for facial recognition so they can track people's data of when you're in that store, they know exactly who you are and then they're just monitoring exactly what you buy. - That's terrifying. - You know what I'm saying? - They can be like, you hit your meat quota this month, sorry. - Literally, that's terrifying. - Yeah, it's, oh, this person like this, this, this, this, this is how we can market to that individual specifically when they walk into this store. And it's all attracted on all of that. - It's like social media made in a currency. That's terrifying. - And the government and that grocery store it'd be pretty much our HEB teamed up to make that possible. - Now that it's finally spring, I've been outside so much more than you have. Walking around, going for hikes, getting my exercise in. He does it for smoke breaks. - What were you wearing? - Funny you should ask, Nick. I was wearing fanbletics. - Does it smell like smoke? - It smells like something you take it with. - Smells fabulous. - Thank you. - Turns out he loves the smell of my (beep) - They're soft, breathable and built to last. I think I did actually use fanbletics shorts during my boxing match. Did you win? - Yes. - Good, that's all it matters, because of fanbletics. - I want clothes that actually keep up with my heavily active lifestyle on my smoke breaks. And that's why I signed up as a fanbletics VIP. - The (beep) does that do. Funny you should ask, Nick. It means you actually can get 80% off everything. - Doctor gave me that when I was born. It may not be long, but at least it's thin. - New VIPs unlock major savings on their first purchase. So trying new pieces feels even more doable. Which you can do right now if you go to fanbletics.com, use the code unsub and sign up as a VIP. They're gonna do a quick quiz for you and try to figure out your sense of style. If you're one of our audience members, you're gonna need help with that. But be sure to select unsub as the option when you're signing up for your VIP. - It's gonna get you 80% off. - And it's a limited time offer, so don't wait. Go to fanbletics.com/unsub for 80% off. - Again, that's fanbletics.com/unsub - You get 80% off as a new VIP member. - I think my balls would feel nice in these. - You're not even in Australia. They just arrested their most decorated war hero. - What? - What war? - War crimes from 12 years ago. - What'd you do? - Allegedly he like shot people that use interrogating or something 12 years ago after he received the Victorian cross, which is their equivalent of the Medal of Honor. Most decorated soldier for Australia alive. And they arrested him for some shit that he allegedly did 12 years ago with no forensic evidence or f*cking anything. Just some people said you did this. - This is Eddie Gallagher. When Cody did that video about Eddie Gallagher, and I read it, I was in LA at the time talking with Freddie. Freddie kicked it to me. He's like, "What do you think on this?" I was like, "What?" Pulled it up, it was Eddie Gallagher. War crimes killed those. - What was the kid with the trick? - Yeah, I would kill them. And then his teammates were saying they were, he was just shooting innocent people. Women, kids, if they would cross this bridge and reading it, my first response was, well, no, like, f*ck, this is a couple of people that was under him that just didn't like him because his leaving himself. - It's gotta get vendetta. - Yeah, 'cause it was, oh, we would, we would change his zero every day. So he could, so he would miss those innocent people. - You would know if somebody f*cked with your rifle. - Especially if you're a Navy SEAL sniper. (laughing) - You really know, and I'm just some asshole. Every day, you're like, "Oh, it's weird." Someone's f*cking with my optic, huh? So he read through that, and then they still went after him, they threw him in jail, and the only reason he got out was because, oh, holy sh*t. They, the prosecution attached a Trojan virus on their team against Eddie Gallagher's. So when they opened it up, they're like, "Wait, this is tracking everything we send. "This is 100% illegal." They brought it to the judge, and they're like, "Hey, prosecution's literally trying to hack us. "They're foraging documents, they're making sh*t up." Here's proof, they had to drop all the charges. That was the only reason they got dropped. Who was prosecuting him, like, the Navy? - Oh. - Oh, yeah. - It was the Navy and a two SEALs that were under him, just like I thought, and they were just like, "We don't like him." And while then the only reason he got off was because they had, "Hey, look what they're doing. "They're even hacking our systems "to just try to get all this information "and dirt on him." - That's why they took it. - That's why they took it, yeah. So then they dropped it. But the prosecution, zero trouble. They didn't get any trouble for doing that. - Well, for committing crimes. - Yep. - Zero fucking trouble. - Navy was pissed that they couldn't go after him. Jag was really into that to nail him to have a win under their belt. - Yeah. - Jag get in like a bunch of trouble because they found out that they knew information that they shouldn't have known. And then they were able to trace it back to one of the lawyers having a Trojan horse on his computer. - That's right. - That's what he said when you were in the bathroom. - Yeah. - Insane. - It's fucking wild to do that. And then again, no trouble. They're like, "Okay, we'll-- - I hate-- - Well, sorry. - Oops, we got caught. - I hate the gamification of the legal system. - Dude. - It's my least favorite. Like, I don't think plea bargains should be a thing. I hate 'em. Like, if you're gonna try to convict me of what you can prove I did. And when they do this shit where they're like, we're gonna try to convict you for something way higher that we can't prove. But we're gonna use that with a life sentence to scare you into just taking the plea bargains. So I get to put you behind bars for five years. - And then it counts as a win on my record. - It's gotta drag on for forever because we don't have a right to a speedy and fair trial. That's why I didn't even realize the rule against judge, just judges can't be touched. They can fuck up as my dick and release a murderer. That dude can go right back out, kill somebody else. Judges cannot be held accountable. That was like, here I was. - So they got Al Capone on tax evasion. It's not like they haven't been doing this for a long time. - Well, I was just talking to somebody about this. I can't remember who about, there was some judge in, shit, I can't remember. It's somewhere in northern Texas. And a bunch of stuff came out about him. And he's just, nothing necessarily illegal, but he's just like a moody douchebag. So there was a whole bunch of clips, I wish I could remember who I was talking to about this. But a whole bunch of clips, essentially, is like, if he's in a bad mood that day, like you're instead of going to jail for six months or whatever, community services, like you're going to prison for 20 years, like the full extent of the charges. And I think the only repercussions that you can bring down upon a judge is you can file a complaint to, there's like a board, essentially, but there's no guarantee anything will come of that. It's like they are the B all end all granted. It's, you know, an elected position. But still, if that guy's just in a bad mood that day. Sounds like you should have a job. - Right, yeah. - What's it called? I gotta find what it is called. - Like, desks or dramatically affecting the outcome of people's lives. - I don't understand the power of judges. And I don't think anybody does, and it scares me. - To levy judgment. - Well, there's, well, no, but there's like the new joke of, like, who do we kill the leader of Iran? Tell 'em, Amy. - Yeah. - Soleimini. - Soleim, whatever the fuck. - Yeah, committee. - There was the meme. - There was a meme that went viral on Twitter, where it was like, "US Federal District Court Judge says he's not dead." After, and it's referencing to just like, how many district judges come out and like, no, this law can't happen. And it turns into like an eight-year thing. It's like, can any federal district court judge just fucking, no, I don't want to, for everything? Even if they're not supposed to have jurisdiction. - Yeah. - Judicial immunity is a form of sovereign immunity, which protects judges, and others employed by the judiciary. - That judiciary. - There we go. - From liability resulting in anything, any actions. So, no, they just can't be held accountable. - Yep, that's what, it was my brother and sister in law, not that it matters. But I remember who I was talking to about this. - Dude, it's wow, that's why that one in California, I was reading about, I was like, holy shit, it was, somebody got a 20-year-old, 24-year-old killed a grandpa, and then she said, okay, he'll serve five years, but five years have been served for good behavior, no time. Well, it would be a, this party is what killed me. Pointed out that Watson was not a danger to society and that he had expressed sorrow for the pain he caused. Saying probation would serve him better than gel time. - Oh, he didn't kill somebody. - That is one time. The second one, serial arsonist, several smashing grabs, car break-ins and buildings, plead guilty, except it's not five years. In fact, Miller will serve zero prison time because of same judge. This judge did this multiple time. - But I also agree with you on the plea bargain thing, 'cause it's like, especially if you're getting a plea bargain because you're turning somebody else in. 'Cause it's like, hey, there's something in it for me, of course you're right. That's kind of ridiculous. You'll say whatever they want you to say. That's kind of a problem. - Yeah. Well, I mean, I just hate the big thing. - There shouldn't be any gambling in the justice system. Like, if you're gonna come out and say that you think you got me on charges for murder one, fucking prove it, or I'm innocent, there shouldn't be any, okay, well, it's not really going my way and I'm not gonna be able to prove this. And I know that. So instead of getting 20 years in prison, I'll give you a plea bargain for manslaughter instead. And then you can only serve five years. And now you're putting some dude that's a dad with two kids and a wife in a position where he's like, do I risk seeing my kids when I'm 60? Or do I just bite the bullet and I can still be at their high school graduation? And it's like, that's bullshit. Prove they did it or don't. And it's all just because lawyers wanna be able to be like, I've never lost a case. - But it also seems like you're kind of guilty until proven innocent now, rather than innocent until proven guilty. - Oh, 100%. Now that you're just crucified instantly, afterwards, they're innocent. No one's paying attention at that point. It is-- - Correct. - Oh shit, you've lost sponsorships, go on a joke, or just scot-free, or you've lost family friends. Oh, well, I was innocent. Huh? No, you're that piece of shit that (bleep) somebody, no, I was innocent of that. - No one knows. - Court of public opinion and everything. - Yeah. - Well, that, I was like, or riches on here, but like the way that, again, innocent until proven guilty, the way that it kind of works backwards now, where like defending yourself, knowing if I was accused of murder right now, I know I didn't kill anybody. The first fucking thing I'm gonna do is get an attorney and not talk to anybody. - But that makes you look guilty. - Exactly. Well, that's what the police will tell you. And they're allowed to lie to you. Fun fact. - Oh, it's wild. The cops aren't your friends. Love you, rich. - I don't thought you got it. - The shitty thing about that is, even if it is a good cop that genuinely does want to help you, the DA, if they're an asshole, can still use anything the cop finds out against you, whether the cop has like a rationale or reasoning behind it. And then the DA can also make it so the cop can't testify on your behalf. - He's a like, rich could have shown up like, I don't know. I get in a car wreck and my son dies and I get out and beat the person to death. And rich is like, this motherfucker was drunk and high on heroin and I think he did it on purpose and all this stuff, dude had a mental break. I don't think he's violent. They could just be like, I'm not gonna let you testify on this guy's behalf as the first reporting officer, which is fucking insane to me, which is that gamification where it's like, I don't care about the truth. I don't care about justice. I care about winning and my career track record, which is bullshit. - I put away a thousand murderers, whether or not they actually committed murder. - Well, I mean, you know, they brag about stats, like it's fucking football. Like I've got a 90% conviction rate or whatever, you know? - I mean, there's one of the officers that work at the gym we go to. He's talked about like, man, it's wild. You seeing a murderer on the street, the next week, after arresting 'cause they got a bell, and it's for a low $5,000, just something, and they're on the street already. - Well, they're not convicted yet. They've been accused of murder. So I get that, you should be able to. - But he's like, and these people are like, they have raps, yeah. - This is wild. - We all know that. - But the problem with that is though, it creates like a current situation like we have now where we're not quite there, or we're closer to an Arco Tierney, where it's the good people don't want to do what they should do because they're afraid of what could happen to them, and the bad people are just allowed to do what they want to do. Like it does create a system where, you know, that guy on the subway in New York City. - I was just gonna bring that one up. - It's like, he's, he was in Marine, 'cause that's correct. - Yep. - He sees the situation, he does the right thing in the situation, and he's on trial for murder, but he was trying to protect the people around him. - What's the story? - I've seen some homeless people, like I lived in LA for a year. I've seen some homeless people do some crazy shit. I literally saw a guy walking down the street swinging two swords, don't know where he got them from, but he had two swords. I have three kids of me, of course I'm going the other way, but like at the same time, like if you take responsibility, you're now the bad guy, that's a problem. - There was a Marine on a subway with a homeless guy, I believe he had a knife, and was threatening people. Maybe he put him in a rear naked choke, and ended up killing the guy with a rear naked choke after he was threatening to kill people with a knife, and acting like he was going to do it. - Daniel Penny was his name. Now that guy. - I do remember this story. - Had to go through court for murder charges. - New York City, right? - Lost his job. - Got charged. - Got charged, gets off, but like, you know, is his life ruined now. I think he, I think was somebody in the president's administration off from a job, or something like that, or one of his donors or something? - I think they had it's honorated him, right? - That's the thing, it doesn't matter anymore. - Still, and then there's plastered 11 of the media, is that guy essentially? - That's like a state law type thing though, 'cause it's like Texas, or where I'm from, Indiana. If somebody did something like that, it'd be like, well, like the Greenville mall shooting. It was a, you know, no gun zone, or whatever. - An Eli. - Yeah, Eli. It was carrying his 1911, and that fucking kid came out and started killing people in the food court, whipped out his pistol and dropped him, and he's lauded as a hero as he should be, because he saved potentially dozens, you know, hundred lives, 'cause there's just a mass murderer coming out, but if that happened, like in all he did, this man used his bare hands to subdue someone with a weapon, and now he's on trial for murder. - Well, it's like even, I'm in New Jersey, and it's like, I think they call it reverse castle doctrine, where if somebody comes in your home, yeah, we're allowed to have guns. You can only buy one hang on every six months, and you limit out a number of long guns you can have, but if somebody comes into your home, you're expected to leave your home, because if you harm them, you could be charged for harming them entering your home, even though you live there. - Let's see if that's. - You have to flee if I remember, unless like you have to be. - You're expected to flee. - In a. I room, and you can't go anywhere, and that's the only reason you can actually engage the target. - That's insane though, like that's your home, you should be able to protect it. - Oh, truck, 10,000 percent. - I have breaching a car, sister. (laughing) - I have guns. - Hi. (laughs) We all have bets on guns multiple. - I was hit by it with an arms reach. It's just one of those. - But like when the system goes in that condition, like it's an Arco tyranny. It's where the bad people are good and the good people are bad and it makes people not take responsibility. - Oh, you mean like a resting your most decorated war hero? - Like that, yeah. - How do, like, what? Who said something like, "Oh, we need to look at this." - They're gonna start, they're gonna start treating good men the same way they treat guns. That's what's gonna happen. And then you know what happens? No more good men. - Oh yeah, and then hard times. - Exactly. But it was shared to you wearing. - Well, I'm glad you asked Eli. I'm wearing my poncho shirt. - That's not what a poncho looks like. It looks lightweight and breathable. - It is lightweight and breathable. It's also fantastic for summer because like said, it does breathe, it's very lightweight and it also offers SPF protection. - You mean UPF? - That's what I (beep) said. - Oh, okay, bad hearing. - Legitimately, on the campaign trail, these ponchos were basically my everyday attire. It's just the perfect mix between looking professional, feeling good and just being fairly casual. - Is that the western style? I'm just guessing because the pearls. - It is, once you go pearl snap, you never go back. - The best promo for this, they weren't our sponsor. The guys and all of us wore them before. - Oh, we sought them out as a sponsor. We were already in love with the shirts and we were asking them out of the money, please. - That's the best cell pitch. - It's the best endorsement I can give. - So if you're looking for a lightweight, comfortable shirt for the spring or summer, look no further than poncho. - Go to ponchooutdoors.com/unsub for $10 off your first order. - Ponchooutdoors.com/unsub. - Go check it out. - Even going to Connor's question with everything like how you see America repeating certain elements. We were talking about over there, he brought coins. - Thank you so much for the amazing coins. - Shout out to Kinzer Coins who sent them to me to give you guys. - We pop them over there. So we got some actual Roman coins that are what, two, three thousand years old? - Two thousand years old. - Wild. But the currency being, like the precious metals, getting reduced year by year. And that's even, we see that now with quarter silver dollars. - But I think how it's done now is kind of more insidious. Because inflation the way it works now is a tax on the money you already have. - We'll go, like even explain the money, how much was reduced from the purity of it. - Sorry, I know this is a bad idea. I think Connor is going to be able to tell me why it's a bad idea. - Let's hear it. - I think that we should just get rid of taxes and the government can just print the fucking money that it needs. And then we all pay a flat tax as inflation. - I'm fine with flat tax. - I'm fine with the flat tax. It's flat. - I'm going to keep saying that the flat tax is the inflation, though. Like don't even collect money. Just print the money you need in my money devalues. It functions as a flat tax. - It's only going to last so long though. Eventually it's all going to collapse. - I'm aware, but that's everything. - You'll be dead by that. - Yeah, exactly. - I have this, I have the exact same thought process too because we're trillions of dollars in debt to the rest of the world. I think we should just restart from zero. - What if it just makes a trillion dollar coin? Isn't that how it works? - Or we just tell China-- - Pay it off. - We're not paying. - We just default on it. It's no big deal. - I brought this up. - What are they going to do? - I've brought this up before America runs on the lead standard. You keep loaning money to the homeless guy and he owes you a lot of money, but he's just been buying guns. - What are you going to do? - He's just, just livestream America be like, "Okay." - Delay. - Zero. - Yeah. - Enter. - No more next-day prime delivery. - They got good news. - No more trillion dollar debt. - They should do what they did in medieval society. Have you heard of the concept of Jubilee? Every 100 years they'd wipe out all debts. - Go on. - And they did this in the middle ages. It was done through the Catholic Church when it kind of rolled everything. Every 100 years they'd wipe out all the debts. - I have a stupid question. Is this where the concept of a 99-year lease comes from? - That I don't know. - Okay. I don't know why my brain went there. - I wish I knew, but I don't know. - Is it like from 100 years when you first started that or is it like on, huh? - No, it's just-- - It's just-- - It's just 1,000. It's just buying everything. - No, it was every 100 years. So it's like, you know, if you didn't live long enough, it sucks to be you. But like, if you were alive when that happened, hey, great, there tend to be alive. - No shit. - The debt jubilee. - I like it. - I don't say let's run that back. (laughing) - I hope you don't throw that-- - Yeah, like, like, like, black rocks go on at that happen. - Black rocks like hell no. But like, I guess if you want to look at how inflation works, right? I think just to explain the concept moderately to people, the Federal Reserve likes to use great words for this to confuse the hell out of you. But they use the word quantitative easing to say shortened to QE. We had QE1 and QE2. That just means they printed more money so the dollar in your pocket is worth less. - Quantitative easing. - Let me explain. - Money printed over. - There you go. But quantitative easing is just the idea that we print more money. So every time that we need to pay for something, we don't have the money, we just print more money. Like, even when we did a lot of that stuff during the pandemic, where they were giving people money, it's because they were just making money out of thin air. And it's because our money isn't backed by anything. You can thank Richard Nixon for doing that in 1970 and taking off the gold standard. But I think that's a lot more insidious 'cause most people don't understand it. They just think, "Oh, things are getting more expensive." And in reality, sure costs do raise, but they don't raise them the way that you feel it. They raise because your dollar now buys less so somebody else needs more dollars to buy something. In Rome, it wasn't quite as insidious because they had, like, this is a silver coin here. This is Valerian. See that he's the Roman Emperor that's captured by the Persians and used as a footstool. He's the first Roman Emperor to be captured. - Footstool, next question. - Well, there's two theories about that too. There's one that he was captured used as a footstool, one that he was a footstool for a while, and then they flayed him and hung on the wall. But the thing that's more insidious about that, that the lesson city is about how the Romans did it, is their silver coin in the first century was 95% pure. - Pure silver? - Pure silver. Because the denarius, their main coin was silver base. They had gold coin circulating around, but the problem they had is if somebody got a gold coin, they'd keep it because they're not gonna spend it 'cause it's worth something. So there was hoarding of gold, that was a real problem. So what would happen with the silver, and this really starts after the death of Communists, who's the son of Marcus Aurelius. - Joaquin Phoenix. - Joaquin Phoenix, yeah. Cleff lippin' everything. But he, the guy that takes over, it's called the Year of Five Emperors. The glass got to come out on top as this guy named Septimius Severus. And the thing he does is he doubles legionary pay, and he gives them the largest gift ever. 'Cause every time someone becomes emperor, they'd give a gift to the military. They called it a donative. And each emperor after that is gonna use that pattern of then doubling military pay. So the way they do that then is by adding other metals to the silver to dilute it. So by the time you get to the 270's, so we're like less than 300 years down the road, that same coin is somewhere between two and five percent here. - Connor? - Yes, Mr. Slate. - Yes. - What? - Yeah, you over there? - Yeah. - How did the military service work at this point in time? Was it mandatory or voluntary? - That's a good question. - Thank you. - You're welcome. Sorry, I'm in teacher mode. So in the Roman Republic, Rome was mainly a citizen army. Like you were defending your country because it was your country. In the late Republic, there's a guy named Gaius Marius and he does these major military reforms. One of the first is, he creates the Roman standard, the eagle that you always see as the symbol of Rome. He's got to create that. He also changes fighting styles a little bit, but he takes and makes it a private military force, meaning that, well, not private, but like a professional military force. And so now your career was you were in the military. You weren't like a farmer that was going to go defend your country and then you go back to farming out when you're done. - Full-time jobs. - Right. And what that does is it starts to create loyalty to generals versus loyalty to the country. Because now if their general is successful and he makes more plunder, whatever it is, they make more money because they get to split part of what they took. So this is going to become more of a problem as in the third century, when I was talking about Severus, he's a governor. He's not, becomes a general later on, but he's a governor that basically takes his own troops and attacks Rome and declares himself emperor. So if your general's emperor, it's a really good thing for you. So in the third century, what you start having is military regiments start declaring their general to be emperor. And all of these guys start attacking each other. So in a 50 year period, you have somewhere between 25 and 30 guys coming to the emperor. And the problem you're going to have with that is going to drive inflation harder. So it doesn't start as a problem, but it becomes a problem because how the function works. Because they get to split the bounty or whatever it is. And if they're guys, the emperor, which is the new route to becoming emperor, that's a real problem. I'm just thinking how wild that would be of going deploying overseas and like, by the way, whatever we take, we keep and we get a split going forward. Wow, brother. You're much oil you'd have? Yeah. I would take that home with you. But the guys he marbles, who say his palace, all the gold that they found at Saddam Hussein's palace. Oh, Evan, he was there. So he has like pictures of him laying in dump trucks that are just piled with gold bars just laying on the gold bars. There, they would take out lambo's. They were just ripping around. Just green braze having the best. But the reason. I was talking about it being like less insidious then, is because for them they saw their coins getting lighter, they saw the color changing, and by the time you get to the late third century, so in like, you know, the 280s to 70s, it would be a bronze coin with like a silver coating on it, and that would actually flake off in someone's hand. So they would see it, and they would feel it, and they would know that their currency is changing. I just don't think a lot of people know that here. They think that things are just getting more expensive when in reality, short prices do change. But for the most part, if your dollar is worth less, and it doesn't go as far, it's a tax that you don't realize you're paying, and most people don't know that. Oh, you did. Yeah. Increased taxes, that will fix everything. Yeah. So I can balance any budget as long as you legalize me stealing people. It's my official policy. But I think as well to like, even getting back to the idea of like, you know, military service as well, like in the Roman Republic, and also in the early to mid-Empire, these politicians and even later emperors would be the ones leading their armies. And I just think that if politicians like, you know, Lindsey Graham, like if they had to think about what they were doing, and they had to be a part of it, they would look at it differently, right? And they would also treat their troops differently too. So I think things like that would change function a lot. I want to go back to when politicians were fighting each other. My favorite meme is somebody took Lindsey Graham's head, and they stuck one of those World War One German army helmets with a point on it. You got to go, you got to go die in Iran, everybody. I just, it's not even that. It's just their two fucking old to understand anything. Well, I think they'd also value life more, right? Like, you know, they would look at the decisions they're making because they had to be a part of them. You know, you know, I think that's also a big part of it. Yes, I just get frustrated watching like Mark Zuckerberg getting interviewed by my, the leaders of the free world, and they're like, there's a Wi-Fi connected to my phone. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? You see the one in court where when everybody had to go to court virtually because the pandemic and everything, and the judge had turned himself into a dog and he didn't know how to turn it off. Yeah. Yeah. Or the lawyer. I'm sorry. Yeah. I just, I won the other day. It was like, the guy, the judge is like, you're a dog. He's like, I know. I don't know how to stop. I saw one of the guys attending his like court hearing, and the guy, the judge goes, your name is Robert Smith, correct? And he's like, yes, sir, yes, your honor. And he goes, so it's not but for six thousand, his little name tag on the bottom didn't realize. So they did because I was going to ask that follow up question. He said he was the Persian foot stool. Yes. So he got captured, obviously, how he was leading troops into battle. So he was leading troops into battle. We're at this was in sassanid Persia. So it's like part of modern Iran, not the whole thing, because the Persian Empire was a lot larger and over time it gradually kind of shrinks and becomes other states and things like that. But Roman Persia have a long track of kind of going back and forth. And there's kind of early Persian empires that they deal with, but the one that they're dealing with that time is called the sassanids. And they were like an upstart if that makes sense, because Persia had been kind of dormant for a while. And then there's this guy named Shepor the first, who basically decides since Rome's going through a problem right now. It's third century where the center is becoming really weak. So the West breaks off and forms its own empire called the Gallic Empire, the East breaks off and forms its own empire called the Palm Iron Empire. So the empire itself is starting to kind of fall apart. Now it doesn't fall apart into those three pieces until after Valerian is captured, but there starts to be signs of kind of what's happening in the Rome's very weak. So Persia decides the sassanid Persians that they're going to invade Rome, because they realize Rome can't stop them. So Valerian leads troops in the battle. He's captured. And he's used as a foot stool for the rest of his life. There's actually a statue of this in Tehran. And it was kind of in pop culture I think in like December of like, hey, we've got a statue here of the Roman Emperor being used as a foot stool. So he's basically captured by the Shepor the first. And the reason it's the ultimate embarrassment to Rome is because if Rome was the superpower I had always been, they just go and take him back. They can't take their own emperor back. They just declare a new emperor. The next guy is a guy named Galianos. So it does be, yeah, you love the name. There's another one you really love. He had never named gay anus. You love this one. The one one of the emperors. You win it. That five year five emperors. One of him is name is Didius Giuliannis. And he loved, he loved the oil. He loved the oil. But it does. But it shows it shows how weak Rome is at this point in time that they can't even go capture their own emperor. And this was in, he said middle third century. This is a 260 is when he's captured. Right. When did it like the Byzantine split occur? So that's going to be much later on. Because so in the the two eighties, there's a guy that takes over his name's Diacletes. He takes the name Diacletesian and he kind of reestablishes Rome. But he forms it in this new way. It's called the Tetrarchy. So it's rule by four. He creates two senior emperors, one being himself and two junior emperors. So the east and the west don't split, but they start to kind of function apart from each other. And you're going to see in the late fifth century, Theodosius the Great. He's actually the emperor that makes Christianity the official religion of Rome in 380. So late, late, late, at that. Now, Constantine in 313, Edicta Milan and just to correct myself late fourth century. But because I said early second century and other podcasts, I got roasted. You can't be wrong or the comments each your life. But I'm aware. We've all experienced a try not to read comments. Try talking about a plane or a tank. Make a mistake. It's terrible. But like you make one mistake that's even very slight and they're like, you know, nothing. You know, nothing, John Snow. But I love you. I mean, actually, you go to a podcast and the edits when you're like, I'm pretty sure that this happened at this time. And then the like super cut edits will cut out the, I'm pretty sure. And so it just sounds like you're so confident about all the information like bastard made me look like I don't even know where I was going. Every, every, every YouTube shirt, I'm aware, very aware. Sorry. I don't even know where I was going with this. I was trying to talk talking about the East versus West, where the, the, so far, Theodosius the Grey is the, he makes Christianity official religion of Rome. Now, Constantine, that was your question. So when he becomes, he becomes emperor of a United Rome after 311, he defeats the other emperor named Maxentius at that point in time after a battle called Milvian bridge. In 313, he issues the Edict of Milan. The Edict of Milan. It doesn't make Christianity official religion of Rome. It just makes it legal. Because though you could practice it unless you're a pain in the butt, they wouldn't do anything about you. He makes it legal. So Theodosius makes it the official religion of the Empire. So, but Theodosius is the last emperor to rule a United Rome. There is a time period later on in the late 5th century when Justinian, who's the Eastern Roman Empire emperor, is going to reconquer the West and kind of for a little period of time rule both again. But that split really happens after Theodosius. Theodosius takes his two sons. He puts Honorius in charge of the West. I can't remember the name of his other son that he puts in charge of the East. But that really starts to be the division because these two brothers don't get along. And then what they start doing, since they don't like each other, they start playing barbarian generals against each other. They're like, "Oh, I'm going to use this general against you." And it really starts to make this division pretty solid. Wow, the royal family. And after Rome sacked in 410, the Visigoths sacked Rome in 410. They go to tell Honorius what just happened. And he doesn't want to be bothered because he wants to deal with his chickens. He raises chickens in the palace now. He wants to worry about his chickens and not the fact that his city is on fire. So those two brothers battling internally with each other was what led to the fall of Rome? The Theodosius, technically Theodosius, you could say, because he divides it between his sons. And just kind of their disdain for each other is what causes them to be separate. They're not really fighting each other. You know, they would play a barbarian against each other, but. Paying Germans to kill your brother. Yeah. Tail is old as time. Because the problem you have after Diocletian, Rome has a lot of trouble defending its borders. So he comes up with a new system called the Federati. And what the Federati are is, or they are barbarian troops that are basically protecting the borders for Rome and Rome's paying them and giving them a place to live. What ends up happening is their loyalties will shift. So you might be a barbarian general one day. You'll be a Roman general the next day. And that could go from east to west too. Like, oh, I'm with the Eastern Roman Empire now. I'm with the Western Roman Empire now, depending on like what's better for them. So that's a. If something he does that's effective at the moment, that becomes a real problem with the system later on. How often are they in war? Because this. All the time? Same like it is the time. Like in the. Even during the quote-unquote "packs Romana", they're still fighting people all the time. They're just kind of things are good for people in role, if that makes sense. But. But in that type of a culture, you're always fighting. That's what your culture is built on. Oh. Oh, I would not want to be in the army. So, hey, you remember the lie? Yeah, you're in a culture built on fighting force. I was just. It's gonna say war on time. And you were in the army. - I'm here now. - What is it, is it 18 years in the history of the US? - In the history of the US? - I believe that's the case. - We really good at it. - Yeah, but we don't take territory. I think we should. Canada's sitting up there. - Yeah, we don't take territory. We just make the entire world buy oil using US dollars. - Oh, we can take Greenland. - I think we should paint the map. Go full Roman Empire, England in the 16, 1700s. They do it through banking now though. - Yeah, we do steal presidents, though. - Well, I saw the-- - Oh, I saw the presidents. - I saw the presidents. - Did he get to use the first one? - It was a thread from like 2022. And it was just some dude being like, "I'm so sick of how people portray "special forces guys from the US military." They make them seem like they're space marines from Warhammer 40K. They can't just send in 12 special forces guys and capture an enemy president. They would all get beheaded on TV. And then it's-- - News flash fall. - Three years later, he comes back and there's an edit. Apparently, I was wrong, guys, sorry. - But they had the discombobulator now. So they're good. - This is true. - Discombobulator, right? - It is wild watching that level of power we do have. Like our military power is next level. And the other country is like, or Reddit Conor just to enjoy it. Like I do where you see, they're like, I ran one this one. - That was it, yeah. - That's like the exchange right now. They're saying it's like, I ran-- - Oh, watch it. - Maybe the ceasefire is over already. - Watching? - Yeah. - 'Cause the Israelis attacked Iran because they said it didn't apply to that. - Who saw that kind of boxing now, then? - So now I run into him. - Guess what? The Strait of Hormuz is closed again. - My text, I-- - My text. - This conversation last night was somebody who would not like to be named on camera, but I fucking said, I was like, this will last for, I give it 12 hours until-- - I don't think it lasted that long. - I don't think it lasted that long. - My text to the group. Well, 'cause the first thing was, is Israel said it didn't apply to Lebanon. And then I don't know if any military action actually happened with Lebanon, but then not too long after that, they started bombing Iran. - What is really-- - And I believe, I believe, I believe there was a press conference today from Netanyahu that was talking about it. - 8.23 PM yesterday, my text. - Can we also say it was reading the hay where ceasefire ball of law? - Can we also say, also if Israel breaks the ceasefire, we get a bomb the fuck out of them too. That way both sides stick to the plan. That was-- - Last night. - 8 PM, I was like, this is probably what's going on. - We look into my crystal balls. (laughing) - Oh! - Oh! - I didn't think Israel breaks the ceasefire. - What? (laughing) - Fuck, I love all the people that are like, America's spending that much money and equipment and manpower to rescue one pilot, shows how weak they are. I was like, I don't, that's weapons grade cope. I'm sorry. - Yes. - Dude, the fuck. - I saw that thing and it was like a, it was a tweet to the effect of that. It was like the fact that America's spending potentially millions of dollars, all this manpower and risking all this equipment to save one person. Why would you even do that? And the response was the fact that you even think this proves that being an American is not just a piece of paper. Like leave no fucking man behind. We don't give a shit what it takes, which is awesome like from the military side or veteran. I mean, that is awesome to read. We're like, oh shit. - Just captured. They're coming to get me. I don't know. (laughing) - Oh no, you were telling a story a lunch earlier about-- - There you go. Here's the quote from Netanyahu. "Our finger is on the trigger. "This is not the end of our campaign." - Super cool. - Thanks man. Yeah, you were telling the story related to the, we're gonna go save an American when, I think you were talking about you and your wife and brother-in-law. I think we're in China. - I went to China in 2014. It's annoying to get the visa to you. Like good New York City and they wrote a background check on you and anything. So we did our whole China tour and you like really shouldn't drink the water there, but their beer is like 2% alcohol, so we just walked around the backpacks of beer all day and drank that right in the water. - Sings out, yeah. And we're getting back on the plane to come home and they had a piece of paper that had my brother-in-law's face on it, but some Chinese guy's name under it. So they try to grab him to pull them off the plane until they realize, I think he's Hungarian, not Chinese. But he almost said Miguel. - Oh, he's Hungarian? - He was half Hungarian. - Oh, I was like, I assumed he was American. - But they were literally gonna pull him off the plane. I don't know why. - They were gonna disappear him. He thought he was that person 'cause they had his picture with somebody else's name on it. - Like faking documents. You're going to the never again camp and then they went, oh wait, white guy. - That's why I don't leave America. (laughing) - This is why I don't leave America. (laughing) - Yeah, you just-- - That one's hard. - That one's hard. - Yeah, how do you say that? Vacation, Marx and Kekos, the-- - Turks and Kekos. - Turks and Kekos. - That one story about the dad that got busted and was like in prison there for a year. - Well with a bullet? - Yeah. - It was such a bullshit. Like he had a bullet floating around in his duffel bag 'cause it was also his hunting bag. - So they tried to put him in prison for 15 years. - This for smuggling firearms into the country. - That story haunts my mother 'cause she knows how much I like shoot. And so every time I travel, she's like, you don't have any bullets in your bag, do you? I'm like, no, I'm like, range bag over here, travel bag over here. - Oh, it's just, oh my God. - Some people are worried about like flying in America with a, like, are you sure you don't have a knife or anything in your-- - I know, so you know that. - It's gonna happen where you go to security and then they just, you're like, fuck. And I was going through TSA last night. And I had to, like I was using this bag last week when I was driving someplace and I had my knife in it. And I'm going through TSAs where I'm like, I really hope I remember to take that knife out of my bag. Do we have, I think I said it would fun. - Shot show one year. Like, make sure all guns are, like, we didn't pack any guns. But okay, everything's good. Cool, cool. Boom, we land, get to the hotel, open up the check-in and there is a gun with a round of the chamber. Right there, it's like, yo, what the fuck? I thought we went through this. Oh, huh. Like, we are so lucky that what the fuck? - But the TSAs never caught anyone. - I'm a very American follow-up story to that. I just, pure blind. Thank you, God, luck. Forgot that I had a gun in my glove box 'cause there's a lot laying around. And just for whatever reason, open my glove box and was like, okay, I left a pistol in here, close it. I got pulled over for speeding and it ended up getting a warning. But got pulled over and it was like, had I not seen that hours before? So obviously I did the proper officer before we even begin, want to let you know there is a firearm in the glove box that's where the paperwork is. So he asked, he's like, can I go and take it out, unload it. I was like, of course, sir. But had I not double checked that? It would have been like, let me grab the registration. Thunk. Pistol. - Slow turn and look. - Yeah. (laughing) I'll get you my one. (laughing) - There was one so like New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, they all like meet in the same spot. And there was a woman from Pennsylvania, it was like 10 years ago and she's driving into New York state. She gets pulled over for speeding and they search her car and find the gun which she can legally have in her own state but she's in New York state now. - Screwed. - Oh, if you gun laws are fucking stupid, it shouldn't be universal gun law. Like the fact that you can, I live 30 miles from the Minnesota border and it's like, I can't legally because I don't have a Minnesota permit. It's like, you can cross the Minnesota border on 300 gravel roads between Iowa and Minnesota. It's like, I shouldn't be up for federal prison time. Because I crossed a fucking imaginary line. - Yeah, when I moved down to Texas from Indiana, I literally had to route my trip through Tennessee and around, excuse me, the state of Illinois because of my rifles. It was like, I checked the, which my buddy made a joke about it but I checked the route. If I cut through Illinois, it was, you know, 20 hours and 20 minutes. And if I did the other route through Tennessee and around, it was like 20 hours and 40 minutes and he was like, 20 minutes on your road trip might save you 25 years in federal prison or in sea prison. - I didn't realize, Griff wants us to go hunting in Hawaii. So it was like, fuck yeah. Santa a picture of the rifle I just built for hunting. And I was like, oh, no, no, not in fucking Hawaii. Well, it's, well, it's a bolt, so it's like cool. He's like, now you can't bring this suppressor. He's like, hmm, and now I'm good. It's like, I've done all the paperwork. He's like, no, those are 100% illegal in Hawaii. - Suppressor is being illegal. It's a dumbest thing on the planet. - And people watch to me fucking-- - England. - In England, they're required. - Yeah, that's what they do. - You could have guns in England? - You suppressors. - You have to be a member of a club. - For hunting and shit, you have to be a leader. Yeah, a member of a hunting club or whatever. - But a lot of places in Europe in general, you're required to use a suppressor for hunting, so you don't fucking annoy people. - That's, well, in the state law in Indiana, they're trying to pass to make suppressors essentially like the same legal status as they are in Texas. The way that the congressman proposed it, or state congressman proposed it in Indiana, was it was for the protection of hunting dogs hearing, 'cause everybody loves dogs. - Yeah. - It's for the children. - Exactly, he's like, no, it's good for dog's ears. Like, whatever works, brother. - Yeah, gun laws are one of the weirdest things. - Shouldn't it just be a federal issue because it's like-- - No. - Second amendment legal. - Well, yeah, on that regard. - Like, shouldn't a state not be able to like-- - Dude, it is, I am. - Like, certain things are definitely states rights, but guns are federally legal. Why should states be allowed to regulate them? - All states rights. I'm glad Alexander Hamilton's dead, your bastard, Aaron Burr, shot you in the chest, you bitch. - I just wanna get a little-- - I'm gonna get elected the state Senate, and I wanna start implementing gun laws for cars and see how fast people get fucking pissed at me. - What do you mean? - I want a background check, felons can't buy cars. - No. - You know what I mean? Like, I just wanna start doing shit like that. - It is a deadly weapon. - I wanna fucking ban mufflers. Like-- - Yes, ban mufflers. - You need to get a taxed everything. - You want to re-pipers? - Yeah. Like, that's what I wanna do. - You see how-- - You wanna cast a convertor? - No. (laughing) - Like, what the fuck? It's a cryover. - Oh, two sensors banned. - Oh my god. - I wanna have maximum capacities on vehicles, like, everything. - That's a high limit gas can, yeah, or gas dig. - Just real quick, cars. Do you see what Ford did for the Nürburgring? - No. - Ford, awesome, good job guys. They came in and destroyed the fucking record by a goddamn margin. What did they do? - The Nürburgring, there's only, I think, 12 cars that have done a sub-seven minute lap. American just last year at the end of last year with the Corvette and the Mustang GTD, were the first ones to break a sub-seven for American cars, and never happened before. And then you have Porsche, the McLaren P1, like, these million dollar cars, and then Mercedes AMG1, which is, it's like a 10 million dollar prototype EV/gas, boom. They've owned that, Porsche's own the Nürburgring, but that was untouchable. America's like, ah, it's fucking America. Ford decided to send their GT, like the GT40 is the GT4 version of that. No electric engine, just pure muscle. American muscle, the fastest. Again, you have 12 cars that have ever done a sub-seven. Every GT did in six minutes, 51 seconds, the Corvette ZR, X did it in 649, and then, like, the Porsche GT3, or GT2 did it in 645, and the AMG1, 630, fast, lightning fast. Ford shows up, does it in 615. - Good. - Everyone's just like, oh, what the f**k? - What do you got to remind people? - Ford smoked it. - Not 15 seconds. - Maybe I'm building 80% of the bombers for World War II. Maybe I'm about to smoke your ass in a fucking race. He never know what I'm up to. - Dude. - Everyone's just like, well, they just dethroned everything. And that car is a 1 million dollar car, but it just destroyed like 20 million dollar cars. By 15 seconds, the closest one is f**king good job, Ford. America. - Marker f**king, Mark Howard. What is one of the scariest moments for you now when reflecting on history? And you look at it, you're like, well, that's my biggest red flag. - That's tough, 'cause it's like, I look at the border issue, and that's a major problem. - I was like, he was gonna say the 19th amendment. I know it. (laughing) - No, not that. - I don't know if you're a man with a limit. - No, I'm not, so there's a lot of bad things that happen in the progressive era. I don't think that's one of them, but I do. (laughing) But the thing I would say is like, the immigration problem to me is a real problem, 'cause number one, we don't know how many people are here, is a big part of it. But at the same time, the immigration problem also feeds the inflation problem. Because of the amount of money federally, we give people that are here illegally. That's a big problem. Like, they're being given debit cards with tens of thousands of dollars on, I know, at least in New York state. I don't know about the rest of the country. - Plus remittances. - Also, here's the one people don't think about. - What if I artistically screech it's a human right? Does that make you feel better? - Absolutely. - No, personally, it'll disarm me in any way. - Yeah. - Good. - But there are people too. - But the thing people don't consider either, though, is also the medical system. Because a lot of times they can just walk away from medical bills. - Have you considered that that's also a human right? - It might be, I don't know. - I hate this version of Nick. (laughing) - What if I told you it's a human right? - Can we just dye his hair blue? - Nick with a bob cut. (laughing) Communistic. - Here's this boy's nose. - Wait. - So I think the immigration issue is a huge problem, but I think the money problems worse. 'Cause if you have a strong currency, you can actually deal with the other problems for a longer period of time. Like, good money buys you time. And I think when you don't handle your currency, the thing you have to look at, right? So we have a lot of people that are here illegally. If the money isn't worth anything, what are they here for? Right, they're here for the ability to be an American have our currency. And that's a similar problem that you see in Rome. Like, Rome doesn't fall, it doesn't collapse. It kind of slowly slides into being something else. Because by the time they get to their money being worth nothing, most of the people fighting in the military at that point aren't even Roman anymore. And the, after the sack of Roman 410, most of the Roman emperors are just basically being propped up by Barbarian generals. The last emperor of Rome is a teenage boy named Romulus Augustulus. And he's deposed by a Barbarian kingdom, Otoacher. And he gives him a pension. He retires him, pays him every year until he dies. He probably lives into some time into the sixth century. We don't quite know when he dies. He just kind of falls off the historical map at some point. But he takes the imperial regalia, sends it back to the Eastern Roman Empire, and said, hey, there's no emperors anymore on the king of Italy now. And when you look at it when money is worth nothing, and the people that are in a place are there just for the good eat or the currency, whatever it is, that's when you kind of cease to have a civilization. So to me, ethics of politicians isn't great. Illegal immigration isn't great. But if you don't fix your currency, you're absolutely screwed. And that's the thing that concerns me more because we're just spending money like drunken sailors. And I don't really see a way out. Because even if our money was backed by something again, unless we did the cryptocurrency thing, I don't know. Unless our money was backed by something, then you can't really have a strong currency, right? It's backed by the full faith in credit of the American government right now, which isn't a whole lot if you look at how we spend money. And if it was based on something, we'd be in good shape, but at the same time, to play the other side of it, how do we get it based on something again? Because we're so far over our skis, right? Like, if you look at one of the main reasons that the Eastern Roman Empire survives. In 314, the Emperor Constantine minced a few hundred gold coins. Every year until he dies, he's minting gold coins. By the time he dies, the Eastern Empire is on a gold standard. And that's actually gonna go without inflation until about the year 1000. So almost 700 years without inflation. - Oh damn. - Constantine was also really, really hard to attack because it's surrounded by water. But at the same time, he fixes the currency. And that's one of the main reasons these survived. Now, it also had more of the wealth and it had more of the ability to feed people because the West had kind of climate had changed and they didn't have the same ability to grow grain. But if we fix our currency, we're in better shape. I just don't know how you do that. And I think that's the major problem. Sorry, you give me a problem without a solution. I don't really know how you fix it. It's kind of above my pay grade, but I see it as the major problem. Because if you have a strong currency, you can deal with the problems. - What if we made currency a human right? - Let me just fix that. (laughing) - Did we just trade it seashells again? - We're going back to Lampum, will we be fine? - Yes. - Like do you think that the, having the, like I agree with having the gold standard? But do you think that, - I don't know if we can go back to that though, we're so far over. - Yeah, we have it. - We have it. - They just won't show us. - But it's definitely worth it. - I think it's a nice trend for Knox, what happened to that? - My favorite part about that is do you know what all the value that's supposedly in the US Treasury's valued at, or how it's written down on the books? - Yeah, it's based off of, we talked about this the other day. No, it's based off of the standard that they set in like 90s. - It's based off the standard. - They did when they confiscated it. So I think it's like $42 an ounce is how it's written on the American books. So like gold is like $40, $5,400? - It's closing at $5,000 an ounce. - Yeah, no, on the American books, it's still considered $42 an ounce. - All right, FDR was a worse present. - Don't you? - Look at that, confiscated the gold. - Look at that. - I stand by. - Didn't he actually make it illegal to hold gold for a while? - He made it in 1934 confiscated it. - And he confiscated it for $24 an ounce. And then the next year after they'd confiscated everything, they issued the gold reserve currency act. I think it was where they basically said gold is now worth $35 an ounce. - So they have it all. - Yeah, now that we have it all, it's also worth more go for yourselves. - I hate FDR. - Here's a piece of paper though. - Let me introduce you to Woodrow Wilson now. - See, Woodrow Wilson is a piece of shit. - I'm a little mad. - I always pretty bad. - I always have more room for hate in my heart. - Woodrow Wilson, it's everything that has happened. - You know, like the last few months of his life, his wife is the president, right? - Yeah. TROKING. his wife was basically like making all the decisions for him and he's on he's on tour to like pass the League of Nations and he has a stroke. I sat down, I'm a weird man, I'm talking about Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson going up. Woodrow Wilson joined the League of Nations. He's the devil, Momma. The only reason that he became president was because of fucking Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt was the most party and it split the vote. Yeah. What would it have been? If there was a singular- I don't know, who was the Republican candidate? Was it Rutherford? I don't remember. Yeah, Rutherford B. Hayes. And the Republicans and Bull Moose, it was like 75% of the- But they split the vote. But they split the vote. So Wilson won. So Wilson won. Fucking bastard. Interesting. And the first movie he played at the White House was? Birth of a nation. And he's not a good guy. No, was he- was it Cambridge he went to? Princeton. Oh, Princeton, yeah. He was from the South, but he taught at Princeton. So he was the governor of New Jersey, you know. I don't want it. You can have him. We don't want to be there. Nothing good comes from New Jersey. Come on. Ouch. Ouch. Oh, yes. It's OK. You're Texan now. Yeah. You're good now. Why- why don't you think we can go to any, like, go back to the gold standard or anything? How would you, though? Like, because what would you do with- what are we? Like, 34 trillion or closing in a 40 trillion in debt? Like, how do you- how do you handle that? Like, I guess that's the problem, and that's- that's the part I don't understand. Because if you did that, how would the- you crash the system, you know what I mean? I guess that's the real problem, is like, are we so far over that there's no way back? I guess it's the real problem. I- I don't have a solution. I don't have a crypto currency, don't you? I mean, we had that sky for a few months ago where it was just investing because some of the individuals in charge are starting their own cryptos, right? Yes. And that's always a good indicator. I guess so. But the simple way too is also just cutting, right? Like, what we're doing with- Elon's- yeah, what was it they had cut? Like, all the aid work in other countries, it wasn't the state department. USA, there we go. USAID, like, that was like a good first move. But at the same time, they moved some of the spending on the state department. We're still doing it. But so, like, we have to cut so we can actually fix it. Even the spending bills we do, we do these giant omnibus bills, rather than individual spending bills. And you make these things that nobody can read, and it's like 9,000 pages, you have 30 minutes of vote on it. Like, that's a problem. Like, that's a real problem. Wait, it's one thing we've talked about. So it's like, I guess the first thing is you have to cut, and then you kind of got to see where you stand. Can we cut stupid research? I get so annoyed. Like, the one where they were doing with the dogs with Fauci? Any of them. What? I'm just saying, I'm so sick of seeing like gender studies and the need, like, new study confirms insert some common sense shit that we've known forever. It's so good for me. So any, with a PhD, you got a doctorate degree to figure out if it hurts to slaying your dick in a car door for seven years. I think that would probably hurt the news article where it's like, scientists conclude that dye included in Doritos can turn mice invisible and then the top comment is, is this good? Are we supposed to do it that over and over again? I don't think a lot of people realize that the main thing is they do not realize how much money we waste, goes to fraud, or just, well, even so in California, did you see the thing that happened, it came out of California like last week, which it was the latest one where they looked into. The tunnel? No, no, no, no. Oh gosh, what do they call it? The counseling you get when you're dying, there's a name for it. Hospice? Hospice. Thank you. They looked into hospices in California, and there are all these hospices where their survival rates, like 80%. You go into hospice, like, you typically die. When you're dying. You're dying. Typically, I think it's like 15% survival rate for hospice, like there is a survival rate, but they started looking into these hospices that they had, I think, like 80 something percent survival rates, and they found that because they didn't have any people in hospice, they were just taking the money. And then we looked at what's happening in Minnesota. In Minnesota, they had these giant empty buildings, they were getting all these money. They had the leering center. So it's like, you have things like that, where we're wasting billions of dollars. When I was in electrician, we had, I was remodeling a VA clinic, and they were, and that's where we don't spend money and we should. They were changing a bunch of, this how stupid the government is, like, they were changing a bunch of, like, office and board meeting rooms into a bigger room for physical therapy. So I was going in, ripping out all these, you know, like, commercial throw up walls, redoing all the electrical, redoing the lighting, building this physical therapy room. And the person running the VA comes in, and we were talking, and she's like, yeah, we're never going to use it. I go, what do you mean? She goes, oh, we're also building a new clinic that's going to be done, and we're going to move into that clinic before this is done. But we have to spend the money. But we have to spend the money because we allotted it two years ago, so we have to spend the money on it. Because if you don't spend it, you lose it. And your budget goes down. Exactly. Yep. That's a problem. That's fucking stupid. There should be a reward for your budget going down. Like, you get to keep your hand in this conversation. Literally. You just had this conversation. Hey, you cut your budget. You get to keep 10% of it. Yeah. I ain't going this. When this is logical, it's wild to me, and it's not being applied, it's like, hey, this is common sense, right? Everyone gets this. Nah. Nah, we need to, if that. Yeah, they don't want their appropriations to go down. So Nick, surely, that's the next thing he did after the Minnesota was like, oh, there's a lot of these places in California as well. Hospice centers. Hospice centers. And it's just a hotel, essentially. When the 86% are five or eight, they have really good hospice services. If I'm dying of cancer, I'll move to California. And we're bringing you back to life with Ryden for looking for just a facility for ABA in Seattle. It was wild because Baby Mom was going and asking these saying, she's like, man, this feels like a scam. I'm just letting you know, I was like, huh, weird. And then they start adding on them, like, oh, they're expecting. This is not private. They're expecting government to pay where I'm paying out of pocket. They're just trying to hit with $3,000 for a single session and then showing up just to view the place with a grant. Well, then, yeah, Jersey, I think it's, I think it's Lakewood, New Jersey. It's like Central New Jersey. It's where all the like the Hacetic Jewish communities are. They claim to have more kids than they have for the tax deduction. Like this stuff is a problem, like that's a real problem. And we're talking about the national debt and that people can't buy food. And we're doing this. Like that's a real problem. And it's not millions, this is like billions and trillions of dollars that go towards this. I love the, I love the Wigart Tower in California, what's the Wigart Tower? The Wigart Tower is the high rise, yes, the high rise homeless shelter where they built on all studio apartments for $165 million for $275 apartments, meaning that is $600,000 per studio apartment. Let me guess the contractor donated to the governor and I'm sure he might do that. I just rewatched, there's a clip, like on the unsub clips channel of me ranting about when I was in California with Jake, and I looked at this building and I was like, what the fuck is this building? Because all of this is giant glass tower and it looks like Mad Max, like the windows are busted out. They're literally one of them, there's a flat screen TV dangling by the power cable blowing in the wind and I was like, what is this? And he told me it's that, it's that, that high rise building that they built for the homeless people, which apparently did not work out. It looks, yeah, it looks like a third, like it looks like it was, I think it was six months old at this time and it looks like, you know, like a dystopian futuristic movie where everything, all the windows are blown out and there's graffiti all over everything. But I just saw some breakdown of the financial spending that California or lost, I think it was Los Angeles County specifically, had spent on attempting to solve the homelessness crisis in the last maybe five years I'm pulling this out of my ass. Like five years and it was a few hundred million dollars. And when you break it down, this guy's going through like what they could have bought instead of, you know, how they wasted this money, like on that tower, well, that was a few hundred million dollars. So maybe it was in the billions. I think it was eight billion. I know the stat you're looking at. Yeah. So at the end of it, it's like they literally could have given each homeless person like $180,000 cash. How you got to pull up? You have about $161,000 per person because, oh, what's better about the $24 billion bill when they were building all these apartments, they spent $600 million and they go, oh, we don't have enough scrap it. Walk away. That's what they did. That's what walked away. So I'm in like the metro area from New York City, right? Like I'm like 45 minutes an hour from the city without traffic, you know, with traffic it's a couple hours. But the Roosevelt hotel is where they're keeping a lot of the, like it's not a hotel anymore, they're using it as a shelter for a lot of the illegals that are coming here. If you walk out front of it, there's a dumpster standing out front. People don't believe me until they walk down the street. They just text me about these days, like it's real, it's there. There's a dumpster out front where all of the stuff they're collecting to like give to the illegals, like the new stuff. There's brand new strollers, kid stuff just thrown in a dumpster. Your tax dollars bought that stuff that's sitting in the dumpster, like, oh, we have so much other stuff. We don't want this other brand new stuff you're giving us. Like there's so much wasted money. money. It's a real problem. Can't go to Americans. God forbid. People don't believe me until they go to the city. They look at the Roosevelt Hotel. They see the dumpster out front and they're like, "That stroller still has the tags on it. What is happening?" Your tax dollars bought that stroller that they didn't want. It's in that dumpster. It's the wild thing and it's hard to show because you will have that blind faith that government's good. They love you and they would never do that. And if you present it, you're just racist or whatever. Was it wrong? They're going to say that the scariest words are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." But it's just crazy that is a problem and still not addressed in any ways. But this goes back to Rome. If you destroy your money, the other two problems that I talk about that you see in collapsing societies, they aren't great, but you can work around them if you have a strong currency. What are the other two problems? The other two are a border control issue. In the third century, Rome stopped caring about their borders and then also politicians get shortsighted and just care about now. They don't care about the future. They don't care about what they're creating for future generations. But if you destroy your money like this, especially with all this wasteful spending that nobody's doing anything about, they're just allowing to do it, you're in big trouble. You really are. You're right. We should let everybody vote on it. What? That's the clue. Famed communism lover because it's a human right? Yeah. Fuck it. Why not? I think, you know, the older I get, the less cool democracy sounds. I can tell you the moment I lost faith in democracy. When's that? And I'm sitting there getting a new phone and this woman walks in and she's got a surge protector power strip with like the seven plugins in one hand and her phone charger in the other hand. And she storms up to the guy that's helping me and he's like, can I help you, ma'am? She goes, yeah, I was just here the other day and I bought this phone charger and he goes, okay. And she goes, it doesn't work. And he goes, like, when you plug it in, it doesn't charge the phone. She goes, I can't even plug it in. He goes, what do you mean? And she grabs the brick and the receptacle and you know how they have the fold in prongs now? Oh, she couldn't fold them out. They were folded in still and she just smacks two pieces of plastic together like he's a idiot. And he grabs it and folds out the prongs and plugs it in for her. And then she feels dumb and goes, thanks and storms out. And I was just like, her vote counts for as much as mine. I've told this story before. I have. I used to work at a Verizon store, trust me, the amount of people I would sell them a cell phone and then they would come in and they'd be like, my Facebook doesn't work and I'm like, what? They're like, Facebook doesn't work. Just boomers. And I would have to, I'd be like, okay, so they don't know how to log in to Facebook. I'm like, what's your, what do you mean you don't know my Facebook password? That's what would happen. It's on the cell phone, you're the cell phone guy. It's my job to sell you the fucking phone. I don't, it's on you to figure out how to work it. They're so intuitive. We're literally, Dave job, we've had this exact conversation before. You can see videos of like people on missions in like Sub-Saharan Africa and they hand like some kid in a grass skirt in iPad and they figure it out like instantaneously. It's very intuitive. People struggle. Trying to find the one where it was against Elon and it was an up voter comment of, Elon could give everyone 1.2 million to every United States citizen citizen, 1.2 million dollars. And you would still have millions for himself. That's how selfish he is. And it's upvoted to the top. I'm like, oh my God, this means she thinks he has all that money liquid. It's not even that much money. It's a simple division. The real math was like a thousand dollars per minute. It was insane. The math was wrong. The concept's wrong. And the amount of grown-ass adults that genuinely think Elon Musk has 700 billion dollars sitting in a checking account that he's just not giving to the federal government is fucking out. You guys stupidity if you had it just sitting in a checking account? You're old-mored. When I was 10, I was under his broke. When I was 10 and found out that they didn't just have a mountain of gold in the vault holding onto a Scrooge McDuck from $8,000 in my account. What do you mean? You don't have a drawer with $8,000 of my dollars in it. So, kid, we're going to talk about something called fractional reserve banking. This is going to hurt a little bit. Oh, man. But trust me, afterwards you'll feel better. Jeremy, before we move to the after show, where do the people find you? So I'm on all socials at Jeremy Ryan's slate. My company is Command Your Brand. We help our clients to get on podcasts. And I have two YouTube channels, The Roman Pattern and Hidden Forces in History. Dude, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for coming in. That's just. I love it. I've got Tism. Two hours. I love the back and forth between modern day rants and ancient Roman history. It works though. It works though. It works though. It works though. Oh, that's going to do real good. It was like autism for two hours, first text, the best text. How we all started out. I have unmedicated ADHD now. That's what booze this for. Thank you once again for joining us today on the unsubscribe podcast. As always, I was joined by Eli Double-Tep, Nick, the fat nutrition and Mr. Jeremy Ryan's slate as well as myself, King Trout. Thanks for hanging around. Fish man. Just for the round for the after show, we've done one story at the beginning and you'll see the rest. We love you. 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A segment on the Korean War highlights a hero, Hershey Miyamara, who held off enemy attacks alone and earned a top-secret Medal of Honor. " The tone is conversational, blending humor, personal anecdotes, and historical insight, while underscoring the importance of critical thinking when interpreting the past.

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