The podcast features a passionate critique of modern celebrity culture, centering on Drake’s recent high-profile events and their perceived performative nature, including a lavish party and a live stream where he offers women financial gifts, which the host views as exploitative and rooted in power imbalances. The discussion also turns to a Usher concert incident where a fan is allegedly rejected on stage, sparking controversy over respect and inclusion, especially in relation to Chris Brown’s presence. The host praises Darcy Carden’s nuanced portrayal of a closeted, traditional wife in the show *Five Star Weekends*, highlighting her powerful line about motherhood as a form of emotional truth. The conversation also touches on broader cultural issues: the performative nature of celebrity generosity, the dynamics of fan interaction, and the representation of grief and identity in storytelling. The segment concludes by reflecting on the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in personal relationships, drawing connections to real-life love stories featured in Hinge’s *No Ordinary Love* project. Throughout, the tone is critical yet empathetic, balancing outrage at perceived misconduct with admiration for nuanced character portrayals and emotional honesty in media.
Darzy Carden in this is so fabulous and she's so good at playing a closeted, a steppered wife kind of thing and there's one line that's just poetry, shout out to whoever wrote it where she goes, "I'm not by, I'm a mom." And honestly, it's like, "Yes, she doesn't have time to be by. If you're a mother, you don't have time to be by." And I get that. And if you know, you know, it just makes sense. I don't know why. It's such a good writing. Hi, it's Hunter. And it's Peyton. And this is, let me say this from Higher Ground Audio. We've got a lot to talk about today. Yeah, we're getting into it. Five Star Weekends. Five Star Weekends. Robert Pattinson. Always. We don't always find a reason to talk about my man, my man, my man. My man, my man, my man. And then, opposite. Before anything else seems this phase because we're talking about Drake. We're talking about Drake, and now some cousins of his, a.k.a, a little bit of usher. Slash, Chris. A little bit of Chris Brown. Listen, we don't want to be doing this, but it's our job. A little bit of bird brain behavior, honestly. I'll say it. Yikes. So we're going to start off with that. Okay, we'll end on a high. All right. But we're going to start on a low. Rock with this. Please. Let's get in. We'll get up there. Some Jersey. Lower Jesus. Oh, ugh. So as you know, I was in Toronto. The six. With my woes. I hated that delivery. That was just bad. Keep it in. I happen to be there during what turned out to be a monumental event. The third year in a row, Drake threw his, never heard of this before. Of course, strong women, stronger drinks party. Had you heard of it before? No. My invite got lost in the mail. I was right there. I was right around the corner from that castle he threw it in, which was. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. It was pretty nice. A castle in Toronto, too. You went in Paris. It was just uncouth. Everything about this is distasteful to me. Everything about it is nasty. Every single thing that he's doing right now is grossing me out. I saw that he gave away like $100,000 to a couple of women. Some who I guess like own businesses. I didn't, I didn't look into the women. Um, I love women taking men's money for sure. Um, I'll accept any right now. Uh-huh. But I do think that the performative element of every single thing he does just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. Uh-huh. And mind you, this happened kind of like the same week. We're recording on Monday, but yesterday, Sunday, August 9th. Holy day. Holy day. Holy day on Thursday and Whitney Houston's birthday. Um, Drake was on, I guess, a live stream with some YouTuber who set up like a 20 women date, 21, 21 date for him as a birthday gift or something or like a return the favor gift. Cause I guess I don't know. Drake bought him something before it. Men are so gay. And I was just like, so you have to make this make sense to me. It's never going to. Well, it literally will never make sense. It was pretty. It was when he asked that golf girl, when he barked for that golf girl. First of all, unfortunately, I had the misfortune of seeing Drake bark for his woo-woo golf girl. That bark was nasty. No, no, no, no. Like I will even men being subs, but it was, it was too breathy. It was like, I believe that sounds like a damn Yorkie. It sounds like something. With the ones that can't breathe. Oh, like a puff. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. And I'm the notice director of the Pag Pug community. No, never. Yorkie community. I don't care. Not too much because that's, you know, that's dodging. I don't mess with them like that. I don't mess with them. But. Damn. You know, you don't own an old black woman right now is is holding a gun to your head. I don't know if they love Yorkies. They love Yorkies. They love Yorkies. When he's sent you to Yorkie. So in Missy Elliott, Yorkie. Classic. Of course. My mother. Yorkie. Well, Yorkie mixed. But no, the Drake bark was so like. Filthy. Can you even do it with your chest? No. You're going to do it at least like commit to it. And the sunken shoulders to sit up straight. Sit up straight and bark with a real bitch. Okay. Oh, that was good. She's straight and bark like a real bitch. That's like something someone would say in a mean girl movie, I think. Starring me. Blame Drake. Okay. Okay. A few things that I want to discuss. Yeah, I get it. We have present fathers. Remember that. And we also are not trying to sleep with Drake. Never once. Disgusting. This whole thing disgusted me. I'm like, the Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. But this was not cheerful giving. It's like a weird power imbalance like kink for me. Yeah. He likes to make women dependent upon him or. I don't know. It's like he gets off on this weird. I don't know. It's just, it's so weird and gross to me. And a few things that I want to talk about. Wife, pipe, bestie. Words not in the Bible. That was crazy. So the 20v1 culminated in Drake choosing three women. And it was like instead of fuck Mary Kill, it's wife, pipe, bestie. He gave the bestie like 25k, I think. He gave the pipe 25k plus a free trip that he could go with her. But he doesn't have to. And then he gave wife, which was like the girl he barked for. Oh, she got wife. Yeah, she got wife. Yeah. And I realized she was. Because he was like opposites attract. Like we're pretty opposite. I'm like all white bitches. I don't know what, what are you talking about? And also I saw you dated on the grassy. That was basically he no girl anyway. And he was like, anything you want. And she's like, okay, he's like, do you know what it is right now? And he won the thing. And she's like, yeah, I want you to buy my mom a house. And he was like, okay. Sure. Did he? I don't know. I actually, it just happened. I clearly think he would follow through with that. I think he would follow through, yeah, because he has nothing else to do. He's like, he has to go. Do homework with his son. Oh, and there's a red dot on your forehead again. Put it there. Put it there. You said and add a few more. All right. Go ahead. Let me hear you in the heart. This is corny. This is all so corny. Absolutely. And I don't like people actually like, it's not corny. This is exactly what Kendra Lamar told us about. When I see you stand my sexy red, I believe you see two bad bitches. And does. Something that has never sat right with my spirit about Drake. Because you know, I'm a Gracie Abrams fan. And it's hard to be in community with him. He's also a Gracie Abrams fan. And do you remember when he, he posted his birthmark? He posted his birthmark being like, I used to be so embarrassed about this. But Gracie Abrams made me feel comfortable. You're gross. Stay out of young girl's business. That's a child. I didn't like the middle of brown stuff. I don't like Gracie Abrams. What's up with him and young white girls in particular, too? It's just wrong for those who don't know. Drake, this was years and old Millie Bobby Brown said in an interview. Before she was super media trained that Drake with text or talking about, I miss you so much. Mind you, he was like 31 or 32. She was maybe 12. That's weird as hell. That's weird. And it's giving weird like he wants to have like a harem of children. That's what it like reminds me that he's like a breeder. And that grosses me out, too. I was like, first of all, it's a NEO's thing to have a harem of women actually. And to have too many children is Nick Cannon's thing. So can you come up with something else? So take off the drag, okay? We know you. But actually, this is a great transition. Yeah. Into the usher and Chris Brown concert. Specifically, I know, do you want to have a moment of as a silence? I have loved usher all of my life. I know. But he is a man of a certain age. Loyal to Chris Brown. Loyal to Ditty. What do you think? I know. Super sorry. Triple platinum in my house though. I'll be your group, baby. I'm much more in a cut up. That's my favorite usher song. That's where you are right now. DM me. No. No. What are we going to DM Peyton about right now? But people will do me DM me and I do be telling them. Okay. Back to the point. So the transition is there was a woman who was brought on to stage at the usher concert. And essentially, Badi, I will say, rejected him, like leaned away when he was trying to do like this recurring bit that he does where he like bumps and grinds on like a Badi on stage. Seeing videos from usher show, you know what it is. You know exactly what it is. And I actually, I kind of like, I missed that a little bit. I mean, the best person to ever bump and grind a fan on stage. Janet Jackson in Hawaii. Usher you could never. Usher you could. No man could ever. Yeah. Janet Jackson, I'm around just by the way. And I'm available. Okay. Uh, you know, I just had to put that out. Yeah. No, no. Bring it into the space. But he lean, she leans away from him and he turns around being like, okay, do not know what you're getting into. Like get her off stage. But the way she leans is like. But she does. I will say she holds her posture the whole time. No. She's very like the girl in the club, like be respectful. Yeah. Why you got invited to the section. But she was low key. Not respectful of getting invited on stage. And her response a lot of people got upset being like, you know, I would have fought for that spot. Yes. Yes. And her response to it on social media. I'm like, do I even read all this? But like, you know, we got the time. First off, nobody is declined to go on stage. I look good as fuck. It's just. She did look. This is so crazy. You thought I wasn't going to let thousands of people see me on the big screen where you bitches will never be. My mom and I had floor seats. And my third team approached us and moved us to VIP before the show even started. Pretty privilege is something you hose will never know about. Low key of bar. Pretty good. Well, okay. Yes. The chaser. I mean, she alleges that she didn't know she was being brought up for that.
moment in particular. She thought she might be brought up for Chris Brown. Chris Brown. She's like, I wasn't here for us. I was here for Chris Brown. I said, you had me in the first half. Right. And then you immediately lost me, diva. Wait, but say the next part that she said. Oh, okay. Y'all want me to get up there and fuck him at that point? It's like, it's T. She was like, no, she's like, so what do you want me to do? Do you want me to do? Is that his dick? Like, girl, what? I mean, it was. I'm so half and a half there. I do see where she's coming from. However, I also see where everyone else is coming from. Yeah. I do want to bring to the space that she did an interview for TMZ, shortly after this one, a viral. And she says, that post specifically was directed towards my city, which is the same post. You see why I say chat, which is directed to chat, because my city, the way she says it, is like, my city is a crowd, but a bucket city. And one of the guys on TMZ is like, that doesn't about chat, Nuga. She said, he said, no, it's nice there. She's like, no, it's not the truth. They're going ballistic on me. I sent this to my friend, Autumn, a couple weeks ago. And she was like, she will never be able to go to Walmart again. They will have a red dot on her forehead. They are going to be looking for her. How do you do? It was one thing. Shout out. No, shout out. How do you say that? Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. You know, I struggle with words sometimes. Laguzma. I, yeah, she did say that like, yeah, she grew up listening to ushers music. I was like, okay, you don't have to say it like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. It's like a little girl. Okay. But she would have preferred it for her Chris Brown speaking of Chris Brown fans. Chris Brown listeners are top at doing hair. I don't want to, I don't want to go to anyone to get my hair done. Who's not a Chris Brown fan? You would never get you right every single time. Mm hmm. Hate it. Hate to say it. It's true. I had told Hunter. I walked into a hair salon before I was getting a silk press. Chris Brown bump. And I said, well, I'm coming out here late. My shit's about to be bouncy and full and was, I don't know what it is. It's like, you know, there's a certain, like, manicure music and there's hairstyle music. And if she's listening to Chris Brown, she's going to get you right. She's going to, she's going to really do her thing. If she's just a little homophobic, oh, girl, you're going to be looking good. You're going to be looking so good. Oh, my god. Well speaking of Chris Brown fans. Yeah. New York Post published August 8th hundreds of concert goers trapped on New York City bound train without electricity, air conditioning for hours. One of them said it was hell. So originally, I'm like, that's not right. Not in Mondani's New York. This is Eric Adams wearing his ugly head like the villain that he is. Then I see around 700 people, many of them returning to your city from a Chris Brown concert in New Jersey. Hmm. That's just a preview of what they're going to get. Mm-hmm. Down below, down in the gutter. There's micro-dosing hell. So, no, that's not my business. But I will deem for appointments. I know that. You're like, if you, if I go to you for any appointments, this does not include you. You're safe with me. Yes. Yes, my sisters. And I need a brand appointment. I'm not talking about you. Yeah. All the other stuff. Okay. We'll quick transition to us, your fans who are demanding their money back after what they believe to be. And I believe women. Even the problematic ones. But they believe that Usher brought out like a look alike to perform a few songs, which included love in this club. That's my favorite song of it. I meet you, which I was like, that's crazy of you to send out an impersonator. And I was looking at the footage. It looks like that's true. It does not look like him. But only for a couple songs, but you just need to catch his breath. I think so. God forbid a man, you know, takes a little break, takes a little power nap. I don't know. What are you going to do? Unfortunately, that's part of the charm of Usher to me. That's part of the charm. Just like he was out of breath or he has Super Bowl show. What am I? I love it. What do I say? I love it. It was one thing. The beard was one thing where I was like, that can't be you. The hat, the like snapback, all tilt and crazy up though. I was like, okay, well, sir. No, it's we have to get a little serious at some point. Right. What I ordered versus what I got. Come on. It's not entirely legit. I just are men okay? The question for the audience question for the culture. Are men okay? No, because they're watching Drake on a live stream talking about I like it's better to give a woman a bag than it is to like buy watch for yourself because you get to have that satisfaction. I'm like, no, that's weird. That's weird. If if you want to give me something just so you can like feel better about yourself, I'll take it. Loki. I won't. She won't but but pass it to me and I'll be like, I don't like this. Strict. Me going to the bag that was gifted with all that cash. I do not like this. I'm out of here. To say for sure. Let's take a load off. Let's unhook those brows and get comfortable you and I. I've never been in a ticket. No, but I'm trying to go now. Exactly. Right. I've been watching five-star weekend because you told me to thank you. It is kind of a slag. I know. Really having a good time there. It's like the epitome of a show that you put on to like that meme to clean your apartment and then you just kind of stop and then you're sitting and I'm taken with it. I didn't expect I thought it was going to be like a tampon commercial. I was like, when I saw those women sitting on a beach, all multiracial. I got a little worried. But it is just fabulous. Everyone has a secret. I like that it's a show where people have secrets, but it's not like a murder show. There's not a big little eyesore of dead body, but it scratches that same itch for me because women's stories matter. They just matter. However, I like to move the ole font in this. I'm like, Loki, you guys should be bumping verses. Is that the hot guy in boots? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Quick show description. If you haven't watched, here's a little, you know, pitch. Hollis Shaw, a famed cook and best selling author, known for her delicious recipes, impeccable taste and warm demeanor, suffers a devastating loss when her husband dies. In an effort to overcome grief and find herself again, Hollis gets the idea to host a weekend away at her house on the end of the day with three friends from different stages in her life. Her childhood, her 20s, her 30s, and a mysterious follower she's bonded with online. Starting Jennifer Garner to me the ole font, Chloe 70, Jimmy Chan, Regina Hall, Judy Greer, Harlow Jane, Darcy Carden, and David Denman, i.e. Roy from the office. Yes, which I can't, I can't see him as anything else. Really? Sorry. Yeah. But like smash. Yeah. Off the two. I can see the way. Well, hmm, hmm. I know my problem. You're engagement. Oh, Lord, I'm mercy. Maybe you. Maybe you're from Drake. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. I do love a Judy Greer Jennifer Garner reunion of course. Of course. Of course. I love that Judy Greer is like the mean girl in this. She's always kind of the mean girl. I know, but then I'm like, maybe it's because I've only heard that she's so lovely in real life. I can imagine that it's just so funny to me that she's like really the meanest girl on this on this. I love her. If she, if she has no fans, I'm dead. Judy Greer. If she has no fans in her gardener is dead. That's true. That's true. They don't play each other. Yeah. Suicide fact. I want to talk about episode two when they do a walking tour. Because you don't want it reminded me of. Okay. When someone got a little bit too much dip on her chip and booked an indigenous walking tour of the French quarter and almost passed out. And I'm not going to say who that was. But it wasn't me. It wasn't Ally who had a big heart and wanted to expand her horizons and show up for her LGBTQIA+ friends. Did the woman who let the tourist move a split moments before the tour started? Yes. Yes. Of course. Did I hold that against her? No. Were we in the same spot in full sunlight for about an hour? Did I have to sit down because I was about to pass out on the ground. Can you imagine this one on the ground on the dirt? Of course it's on the ground. That's how crazy it was. I was, I thought I was going to die. It was. And I just know if the tables were turned. If it was me who was like hunter come to this walking tour, this like queer lead walking tourable about shoot. There's this hilarious video, DML sent to you, of hunter walking on the door. Oh, hundreds over. Karen Herbert. Someone's on. It was a mutiny. I said I need to get some water now. I need to go into this but I get get water right this moment. You notice I was swimming though. You're like, hey. I was like, I got your ass. So there is a queer walking tour. Just in case that's something that interests you, there is a queer walking tour feature in the show. I also have to call out something is so herring about seeing Chloe Sevene with a phone wallet case. That's, that I should not be seeing that on my screen. She's so normy in this. And it's hilarious. But I actually love it. I think she's fantastic in the show. Yeah. And I like her doing mainstream stuff. And I think there's a little bit of a, I mean, one, maybe just like sure get a check. But two, this maybe cultural reversion to what a cool girl looks and feels like or what they do. Do you know what I mean? I might be stretching this a little bit, but I think this like fictitious idea of coolness being apathy is like, we're moving away from that a little bit. And I kind of like her, like the ultimate, I don't know if it's fair to call her apathetic, but you know, very like, smoke a cigarette, like, hate to lay like that whole vibe. Yeah. Doing this show feels really cool for her. Does that make sense? Do you want to get what I'm touching on? It is kind of like the opposite of what you would think she would go for. Yeah. And even playing this character too, the character who is like the hometown bestie.
is who's like very local, very like county. I think it's like a funny sort of place to see her show up in this show. And by that same way, sort of I like Regina Hall as like the hyper serious like bitchy, like college best friend. And that dynamic between like childhood best friend and college best friend is such a funny like, oh yeah, these are two parts of yourself who are engaging. And of course they're jealous of one another. Of course, they both do like day ones in different ways. So that I really like, I don't, I don't know why but the title five or weekend, like I don't like it at all. Although I'm not done with the show yet. But the idea of, you know me, I love bringing different friends together and I'm stressed every single time. Yeah, like I'm always like, wait, okay, now listen, she's a little bit crazy and she's a little bit strict. We're all gonna get together. We're all gonna have a good time. Promise by the end of it. It'll all be worth it. You'll all see what you like each other, I promise. Pinky swear. I'm like, totally the opposite. I'm like, throw 'em in the ring. Let's see what happens. Let's see, let's see, come on live. Yeah, like it was a meeting of the minds when Hunter Yvonne Harris met Evan Nicole Brown. Oh, now that's a woman's work. I also remember, I don't know if you remember this, but you had, or maybe Michael tweeted, before I'd ever met my, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need you to be right on that Michael QB. You guys are both alike in that your huge bitches and meme. The way both, like it, it was like really smart. It was like something complimentary and then something kind of so nasty. And it worked. And look, he just texted me. I'm a matchmaker. We're always fussing. He said, "Why don't we always have beef?" I'm like, "You tell me." And then it'll be like, "You guys just walked in this way, so it makes no sense." What do you think about Gemma Chan's character? The spoiler, she is like the friend that Jennifer Garner's character meets online, who we find out was actually sleeping with her husband. The dead husband was having a affair. Yeah, well, I mean, we find that pretty early in the show, or in the series. I love Gemma Chan. I am a bit, I don't know. I don't really see where it's going yet, because I'm so early in the season and she just had that conversation with Darcy when they're in the scene room, yeah, yeah. And I'm kind of like, okay, so what exactly are you doing here? And also, like, Gemma Chan and Jennifer Garner have bonded over grief in the show. And it's a bit like, well, you're both grieving the same dick, Loki. That's kind of, that's kind of crazy. So I'm just curious to see where that goes. But I like, I like to concede as like, I'm sneaky, kind of a serious friend. And I also like how everyone kind of brings it back to the Hollis character, being this sort of like, Martha Stewart figure wants to be perfect, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, okay, but what's like, with your actual life? Like, you're taking all these photos, like, you're putting on this show that you are such like a good hostess, whatever. But like, we really don't know that much about what you're going through. Yeah, that's a really nice tension. I think so too. And I was gonna say, I find this show to be actually a really thoughtful meditation on grief and how it manifests so differently in so many people. And I think that's what really tethers Gemma's character and Gemma's character together is that their grief kind of looks absurd in some ways. And I think for Gemma's character, one, I love her hyperfixation on being like a digital superstar at her age, right? I feel like you think about being famous online as something to be in like your millennial Gen Z experience. But I love that it's something that she's really struggling and grappling with and that you get to watch her kind of do the same things that we all do, which is like, sometimes over invest in our digital communities instead of doing the harder thing, which is being present with your real friends and your real feelings. And I think that they do that really well when you watch her kind of scroll through the comments when she's like having a, I don't know if you got there yet, but she's like has a breakdown and is like scrolling through the comments and they're all obviously of like affirmations and she's just like feeding into it and liking it and it's so obvious that it's easier for her to be there than be like on this trip with her best friends actually know her. - I really like that. I can't wait to get to that point. But also something that is just struck me now is that what this one does really well that other shows do not do so well is like make the online world feel like a little bit more real and grounded in a certain way. 'Cause a lot of shows are like, okay, I promise you, she's like an influencer, she's like, you know, being canceled or whatever. And it doesn't ever feel like substantial. And on this show, you do kind of get the sense that what's happening to her online and how that affects her in real life and vice versa with her like just performing for like social. - It's interesting. - There was a moment that reminded me of the story you told last week about like having a breakdown at the airport and so on being like, I love the pod. There was like a moment where like first of all, she's just grieving her dead husband and she's at a bar and these women like run up to her and are just like clearly like a bit parasocial with her. And one of them even though it seemed really sad and serious was like, I got through like a death of her own experience by watching your videos. And you can see her face like have real empathy but also be like, that's really intense for like me to take on. - Yeah. - And that happened so much. Like it was just interesting to me. I don't know, I liked that moment. - Yeah, I do kind of like the way that the women, like their friends react to the fan being there and how they really are like all kind of mean to her at first. And then-- - Oh wait, Judy Greer is character? - No, watch how much of my chance character. - Oh, to my chance character, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Because she is like the fan from the internet and how all of them kind of circle the wagons like, well, what do you want? - Which is the same drink. She ain't gonna give you a bag of cash, okay? She don't move like that. - Like any like some raspberries that are safe to me. - In the custom journal, like fop. I just have to say, I love Darcy Carden in this very clearly closeted queer role. She's just so good. If you watch, oh my God, what was the show? The good place? - Oh, League of their own. - League of their own, the League of their own show, gone too soon, it was so good. And what's her name was also in it too. The one that played the Walking Tour guide. - Oh really? - Yeah, yeah, she's gonna be in something gay. Something gay, she in there. Let me tell you that. I love her, forgot her name, but I love her. Super hot. But Darcy Carden in this is so fabulous. And she's so good at playing a closeted stepford wife kind of thing. And there's one line that's just poetry. Shout out to whoever wrote it, where she goes, I'm not by, I'm a mom. (laughing) And honestly, it's like, yeah, she doesn't have time to be by. If you're a mother, you don't have time to be by. And I get that. I don't know why. It's such good writing. But yeah, I'm not done with this season yet, but I think like, I'm really excited with where it's going. - Yeah, yeah. - Shout out to the gay guy that recommended to me. - Always. - Yeah, it's always a gay guy that recommends something to us. - They watch everything, girl. They got a different hour. - I don't know how to do it. - Come and be on say. They work on different timelines, I swear. (laughing) (upbeat music) - Hi guys, it's Peyton and Hunter. - And you, the listener, are here with us right now. And we sometimes, when we're feeling brave, we get a little vulnerable on this podcast. Wouldn't you say? (laughing) - I would agree. - And it's not always easy. (laughing) - In fact, it's quite difficult. - But we're working on that. - Okay, question for you. And I want you to be honest. - I always am. - This is true. - Actually, too honest sometimes. (laughing) - What would it mean if you said how you felt out loud? - I feel like this is a gacha. Trying to get me in trouble today. - Oh, no, that was yesterday. (laughing) - Well, I'm scared to say how I feel. You know what I mean for a long time. It takes a lot to, I'm a tough nut to crack, you could say. - It takes a lot to get the opinion, the emotion out of me. - Yeah, I mean, I do think that, you know, it comes easier to some people and it's harder for others, but I think everyone should be in practice of trying to say how they really feel. I think it's really easy to make your feelings small or not want to disrupt a crush, you know, if you want to keep the good vibes going, it's a risk to say maybe I want this or need this or I like this or I like you. It's kind of a nightmare often, but when the risk turns into reward, it's sickening. - Look at that. I think it's just a good practice in dating and talking to your family and talking to your friends to take that risk and dare to say how you really feel. - I think that's true, but in dating specifically, I don't know if you feel this way, but I'm always performing cool, nonchalant person and you know me. - You know I am stressed a lot of the time. - Internally shaking. (laughing) - And it makes me nervous to tell someone to ask for what I want and also to be open about how I'm feeling. - Yeah, you know what, you actually gave me great advice one time where I often get jealous of a type of girl who looks really effortless and you know doesn't try hard, she's quieter normally and I got a mouth on me and Hunter was like, "No, no, no, you can buy nonchalant at the 99 cent store." I think is literally the quote that you said to me. So I'm gonna be chillant. That's what I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be chillant, I'm gonna be brave and I'm gonna say how I feel and be who I am. - I love that for you. - In general, daring to say the thing has changed my life, even my dating life radically. - No, I completely feel you. It's a big reframe with think of transparency and openness as something to run towards and not run away from and that's actually what Hinge's new project is all about. - Oh wait, the Not Ordinary Love audio book, right? You wrote the forward for it. - I did, yes, that's me. This is my second year working with Hinge on the Not Ordinary Love project.
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They cross my desk multiple times. Stop sending it to me. I've seen it. Someone tweeted, "It's a shame that Robert Pattinson is white because he's the only one who could properly play Diddy in a biggie biopic." Notice how I said biopic and not biopic. Because people still do that. Um, I promise. And at the moment, there are words that are being said. So that's really like thinking outside of the box for certain. That's like get you to Mackenzie, like you should be a consultant. You're doing things that like people have never done before. And I ultimately have to agree. Oh, I see it absolutely. I mean, absolutely. That's a character actor. Like of course. Especially Diddy in that video when he played the Joker for Halloween. He did the Joker costume. I hate that video. No, I know. But like Robert Pattinson would wokey. Yeah. Eat that up. Yeah. He'd be so good. Um, we've had Robert Pattinson on the brain like because he's a working woman. He gets booked and he is busy. He stays on a set. I know. He keeps a check just like JLo. And there's a lot between them, I think. There's a whole lot of commonalities. I think they would get along actually. Yeah. Yeah. But I do have to hear about your viewing of the movie. Remember me. Remember it. Something happened to me where I said, I might mess around and watch the Robert Pattinson 9/11 movie. And I did. And I was shocked. I didn't know what to think. Yeah. Uh, basically in this movie, Robert Pattinson is in his early 20s, follows for this. Oh, excuse me. First he gets assaulted by a police officer. Hmm. I come. Right. And then he, it's like that weird, you know, uh, late 90s early 2000s. Like, romcom thing, teen romcom where it's like, okay, I'm going to find this girl. Get her to fall in love with me and then dump her to prove it to someone. And that's what he tries to do with the cop's daughter. And then they fall in love. Oh. And then she kind of helps him heal his daddy issues with Pierce Brosson, who's like from, like, the Bronx for some reason. I don't even praise his accent. It's so weird. And then he has a little sister. Do you remember this part? Is a little sister? And he's very close to his little sister. And then she goes to a sleepover. Ah, the sleepover. I haven't seen this. It means a lot. They bully her and they give her literally, we can call it like the Hillary Clinton. Like they give her a crazy haircut on a child. They give her a VOB something called me Bob. For sure. They're the little glasses. I'm like, so that's an accountant. That's a working woman. So hold on. No, she knows about a Roth IRA where her briefcase. She knows about a high ill savings account. Oh, my God. I trust her. And literally, Robert Hansen is like, how does they do that to my sister? Goes to take the sister to school. Yes, I forgot. One girl like kind of teases her. He knocks over a desk, gets arrested again. This time his dad is like proud of him though for like setting up for his daughter. I mean, the dad has a thing the daughter in like weeks. He doesn't care about the daughter at all, which is crazy. And then he goes to the dad's office. And I'm like, when are we going to find out what date is? Like when are we going to find out? And we cut to the daughter at school. And the teacher's written on the board September 11th, 2001. What was the reason? What was the reason? Tell you, I was in shock. And Mark Fanson's looking out the window. Literally. And the camera pans out. And you're like, oh, my God. He's like in the North Tower. And I knew that this was it. Robert Hansen 9/11 movie, of course. But I didn't know what it was going to. So it was even more horrible than if I, you know, hadn't known. Yeah. Because I just kept waiting for like, when are we going to find out? Yeah, what are we going to find out? It also was so funny that this all happens right after they've like repaired their family dynamics and like worked through all their trauma. And then they die. And it reminds me. And it probably influenced a story I wrote in seventh grade for Creative Writing with Ms. Tanu. Hunter's already stretched out. Where I wrote about this girl that finally goes. It's like this woman that's worked a really hard life. I hate this already. Let me tell you, this offense me already. Okay. My pen went crazy in eighth grade. Literally this girl with this one girl's chest out. I won't say your last name just in case. 'Cause she probably doesn't like me. Her name was Shessa. She had a hot brother. She was a bitch. And she was like, I hated this story. And it was about, no, she really came from my house. Jesuit Shessa. Yeah. Shessies in the room with us right now. We didn't meet in college. We met. Basically she like finally goes like works her whole life. In the story, she works her whole life to finally be able to afford a trip to New York. And then she goes to New York and she would visit. You can imagine what happens next. I can't really want to. But what this has reminded me of is club shallemay sign 11 lore. People forget. And of course you remember the North always does what happened. What? Girl, this was like the first big club shallemay viral post. One of them was when she was 9/11. And she was like, you know, day of remembrance. And she said in summer of 2001, I went for a job interview. And it was a job that offered me more money and more benefits. And a better title and a better position. But I got a weird feeling. And I turned it down.
and she said, and then look what happened. - No, swear to God, she was like, and then look what happened. - And then look what happened. - In the sense that it's crazy to send her herself on 9/11, and then also to be like, and I had a funny feeling. And you didn't tell anyone? - It was bizarre. - She should have been like ravence moment. She would have let the people know and she would have saved lives. - Wow, that's crazy. - Yeah. - Is that how her age got revealed? - No, that was the first, those one of the first data points that she was not even in her 40s. - Yeah, holy shit. - The rubber pants in this round quite a run. - It's black rubber. - Can I take it there? - Yeah. - So he had Mickey 17 and Diamond Love in 2025. The drama and the Odyssey in 2026. And now he has Dune Part Three and Primetime. And then the Batman Part Two in 2028. - Quick question, was to catch a predator. - My tea growing up? - Yeah. - Absolutely, of course it was. - I'm strict. - Watching TV like, yeah, I knew it. - I like, I'm a pervert. (laughs) - It reminds me of that one livestream. (laughs) Never mind. - Anyway, no, I love to catch a predator growing up. I loved all of those shows. Like the other kind of undercover boss show. - Oh yeah. - I thought it was really fascinating. I have to say shout out Lance Oppenheim, the director of Primetime. He also did a, some kind of, it's a documentary called Some Kind of Heaven. That's about a retirement community in Florida. That's so good. - Oh. - Anyway, Lance was a director. - Was Chris Hansen fine? - No, I don't remember. He was so exuberant and dad. That's the only thing about Robert Pattinson that I think holds him back as an actor. Is that he's simply too beautiful. And that was my issue with "Die My Love." I was like, "That jawline is not in some fucking country "bumpkin pickup truck." - Jennifer, I'm happy. - Jennifer is too. - No, of course. But she looks American, though. Like, he doesn't look like he came from Kaueta, Oklahoma, as someone who's been to Kaueta, Oklahoma. (laughs) - I don't even know how to spell it. - Yeah. Well, I never, I'm excited to watch this movie. There's already fan cams for it, which is crazy. - I love it. - I was like, "You have a trailer. "Tains work." - And "Club of Pattinson fans." They also work. - I feel like I'm, I'm. - Pats piled? - Yeah. - There's patty, patty cakes. - I don't know. - Oh, patty cakes is cute. - I like that. - A drink. Yeah, that's how it's done. (laughs) - Oh, god. - Yeah, well, obviously, you know, I've been a Robert Pattinson truther. - Should we go to top three Robert Pattinson moments? - Yeah, of course, natural transition, of course. Let's do it. - Give 'em to me. - Let's hear 'em. - You see how I wake up when I tell you about Drake anymore? - Oh, I can't. - My shoulders come to the back. - I can break on. - I can break on. - I don't have to. - That's my purse-o-tate, like. - We're safe, finally. - Yes. - Okay, top three Robert Pattinson moments. Him on Jimmy Kimmel, one of the Jimmy's, talking about the eroticism of being spit on. Mind you. This was around 2017. Mind you was still dating FK Twigs. - Okay. - This is what stays my brain, by the way. And I will never forget when someone tweeted FK Twigs a bottom and she replied, no, I'm not. And then that interview came out and I was like, oh, they nasty in there. I got a, I found here's true to find out. I was like, oh my God, they was fucking for real. Oh, I missed them. I mean, all of them just, okay. And they're baby, but that was a big moment for me. I love their love. Okay, second moment was when in 2017, he went on Reddit and started answering fans questions and Loki gave like everyone the ik, similar to how he had a stalker for a bit. And who knows if this is the truth or lie because he lies all the time which I love about him? - Yeah. - He's the last real improper rehab, by the way. Where he barely had a stalker. And it was just so bored and he was shooting a movie that he finally just went to dinner with her and complained the whole time and she was like, I'm off this. - I don't want that for a second. - I believe it. Okay. So women and Robert Pattinson, that's it. And the last one is honestly just out of envy, which is when he bit Tyra's neck on the Tyra show. Prison for that. They want to lock her up for anti him. No, prison for the Tyra bank show. - No, people forgot when she turned her race on that show. Like, people forgot how crazy that show was. - Say on say. - Be on say. - Be on say. (laughing) - Out of her mind. But when he bit her neck with his full chest and his full things, that was crazy. Left to mark. - That was so does. I was like 13 and like ripping my hair out with envy. Anyway. - Oh wow. - What are your top three of our Pattinson moments? - I'll say that as a perfect transition because I want to talk about Robert Pattinson on the cover of GQ in April 2009. - Yeah. - Yeah? - Heard of it? - Oh yeah. Heard of it? - I, that's the kind of image that I shaved my entire body for when I was-- - Sure. - Ten? Like, it went crazy to me. I was like, this is a beautiful man. The hair, all of it. I loved it. - I was gonna ask, were you always like Robert Pattinson so sexy, so fine? - Yes, but I wasn't a twilight girl. - But as I was cosplaying a grownup. - But you're so, you're the worst. - You're the more I know, I know, I know, I know, oh my God. No, but in Harry Potter, do you think he was hot in that? I, yeah. I did not. I was like, Cedric Degree, better be sexy as fuck, and I thought he was kind of mid in that. - I mean, yeah, I wasn't like paying attention, paying attention, but then later I went back and we watched Harry Potter or the Phoenix. - No, gobbled a fire to see him, yeah, yeah. Then I wanna talk about, okay, second moment, Sukey Waterhouse when he, she prank called him for some magazine, and she was like, darling, I think it's gonna be quite fine, actually. We can, they wanna do this star like, love is blind, and he was like, are you mad? - I love someone who's British AF. He's like, I, darling, are you mad? I loved it. It's like, I love that he's secretly a freak, but also like, posh as hell. - But he also almost entertained it too. He was like, I mean, okay. He was like, really? - That's how he loves that woman. He's like, I guess we could try and figure it out, but it's crazy. - I'm gonna say, top three moments, you know, to A was when Sukey Waterhouse was announced as pregnant, and I texted you, okay, so we're gonna have a workout joint custody. So that's my man, I don't play bottom, which is me to my third favorite moment, which was at TIFF in 2019, when he was really looking at me across the room. - Yeah, that's what happened. - I hit him with a little. - All right, when you let me know how that goes. - Well, it's gonna be funny. - Good luck looking at that man, you three go. - I'm not that far from FKWigs. Okay, I'm about half a gum down. - Hunter, FK. - She'd be playing with those knives and bending about, and you think you a stone saw away? - Girl, it don't just 'cause you like skin. - It's not 'cause of that. - What? - Y'all are, I would pay, I would pay Drake Dollars to get you and FKW in a room and see what happens. - You would be so annoyed. - You're like, let me y'all. - No, I absolutely, but I could believe her in a second. - We took my left video where she was crying, talking about kids used to bully her and call her wash and go. - Yeah, that was cool. - Now, come on. She, that's not a serious person. - She's been through a lot. - Oh, I friend of that. - With Loki, well, literally she has, but also today I saw and I said, open the schools. Someone was like, can't believe you guys are standing this abuser talking about Robert Pattinson and cited his relationship with FKWigs. And linked to an article that very clearly says. - Shyla Buff. - Well, not, first it was Shyla Buff who obviously was her abuser. After that was like, Robert Pattinson's racist fans, like it was a big part of their relationship, falling apart. It was like, no, no, so click the link. I was like, it's not Robert Pattinson was racist to his girlfriend fiancee at a point. I need us to turn it on a little bit. And then you wanna throw out a abuser on a part, it was actually clinically insane. - Yeah, I hate the internet. - That's really sad, that's X. - But FKWigs has a desire of that. - Oh, well, absolutely. - Obviously. - Forever. - Anyway, I got protective of my man. I would never jump another woman like this, but I was like, don't speak about him like that. But the Twilight fans are crazy. - That's for sure. - That's emergency. The new man, let the man get ahold of this clip. - But the best. (laughs) - Okay, now you piss me off. Now you piss me off. - Oh my, okay, go ahead, tell him, right. Okay, ha ha, beat it. Herbert, they over, oh, hell, the best. One of the, I mean, he lies a lot. Robert Pattinson loves to lie. - Just like every other man, but yeah. - But he does it in a fun way. - Yeah, he's the only fun lying man. - Yeah, that's true, exactly true. - His Drake. - Lying man for lies. - When he said that his dad was Michael Jackson in middle school, and he got in trouble, thought that was fucking hysterical. - I wouldn't believe it, they're the same complexion. - No. - You know they want to say it, but man, it's the truth. - So I thought that was funny. I don't hunt them, I think so too. (laughs) - That's a pretty good action. - Okay, Robert, on my birthday post, someone commented, "MJ.Dototot." Lily, I saw it. - Oh, look, at their, put their handle in right here, insert it right here, producers. (laughs) We're coming for you. We're sending the Lemmy's on ya. I don't know, is that what we're called? - I don't know, we'll see. - Oh, what about the lemons? Lemme, lemons? - Who workshoped that? - Yeah, let us show. - Let us show. (laughs) - Our friend, Hunter Yvonne Harris, government, was born. - And I love to give a gift, one thing about me. - And sometimes it's a joke gift, but this time it's a real gift. - My heart is racing. - I was so nervous. - But it's like shaking. (laughs) - So we are gonna watch in real time, Hunter receive her birthday gift. (laughs) Go ahead and press play whenever you're ready. - Hunter, what's going on?
on in his Kyle and on behalf of the Wise Gals, I don't wanna wish you a happy 30-second birthday from one Leo to another. Now, I've already turned 44. I understand you turned in 32, this lovely August 9th. And yes, your besties absolutely adore you. And tell me that you're also one of my biggest fans, so thank you, thank you. I think this is a birthday pet talk because, well, I can't take anymore. I can't take so long. He's anything late, so I think he felt bad because he made a long ass. It is two minutes, you know how to walk the whole thing now. But I'm just know that Wise Gals, if you know you know, which actually no one else does, actually, it's a very private joke. Got to enter a cameo, shout the fuck out to cameo. I love me some cameo, I'll be getting some cameos from Kyle Cook, her brother, her husband. Oh my God, no, my brother, my brother, my brother Christ, yes, Lord, oh my God. So I'll get that full, the full content to you over later. Until then, we got an episode to record. (laughing) Just know it's so good and insane. ♪ I'm a sadist, I'm a sadist ♪ [BLANK_AUDIO]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Darcy Carden delivers a powerful performance as a closeted, traditional wife, with a standout line—"I'm not by, I'm a mom"—capturing the emotional reality of maternal time constraints.
The host critiques Drake’s recent public events, including his "strong women, stronger drinks" party and a controversial live stream where he allegedly gave women cash and gifts, calling the behavior performative, imbalanced, and disrespectful.
A major controversy arises during a Usher concert when a fan is allegedly rejected on stage, sparking backlash, with the fan claiming she was misled and felt disrespected, particularly due to the context of Chris Brown's performance and her perceived lack of agency.
Summary:
The podcast features a passionate critique of modern celebrity culture, centering on Drake’s recent high-profile events and their perceived performative nature, including a lavish party and a live stream where he offers women financial gifts, which the host views as exploitative and rooted in power imbalances. The discussion also turns to a Usher concert incident where a fan is allegedly rejected on stage, sparking controversy over respect and inclusion, especially in relation to Chris Brown’s presence. The host praises Darcy Carden’s nuanced portrayal of a closeted, traditional wife in the show *Five Star Weekends*, highlighting her powerful line about motherhood as a form of emotional truth.
The conversation also touches on broader cultural issues: the performative nature of celebrity generosity, the dynamics of fan interaction, and the representation of grief and identity in storytelling. The segment concludes by reflecting on the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in personal relationships, drawing connections to real-life love stories featured in Hinge’s *No Ordinary Love* project. Throughout, the tone is critical yet empathetic, balancing outrage at perceived misconduct with admiration for nuanced character portrayals and emotional honesty in media.
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The reviewer found the event distasteful and criticized its performative nature, noting Drake's giving away $100,000 to women and a live stream with a 20-woman date as overly extravagant and power-imbalanced.
The reviewer found the vocal behavior disturbing, comparing it to a 'Yorkie' and calling it 'filthy,' while expressing discomfort with the perceived lack of authenticity and masculinity.
The reviewer highlights it as poetic and relatable, emphasizing that being a mother means having little time for leisure, and that the line captures a real-life truth about motherhood.
The reviewer notes the fan's reaction to being on stage was disrespectful and dismissive, and felt the situation was awkward and disrespectful, especially given the fan's claim of being there for Chris Brown.
The reviewer found it questionable and disrespectful, noting the impersonator looked unlike Usher and that such actions could be seen as dishonest or performative.
The reviewer praises the show for giving voice to women's stories and highlighting real emotions, noting it's a thoughtful meditation on grief and personal identity.
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