Robert Maxwell: Chased the tingle into the sea | History Hyenas

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Yeah. to that seems that we're not in we're not in and i'm talking about even not even that club i'm talking it seems to be like an elite club that runs across uh professions right it runs across international lines right it's just kind of like a club where they like to eat pizza drink grape soda and they love beef jerky it's what it is and that probably is our minors that's probably what i mean or the kid just had a hankering for beef jerky all the time i you know if i didn't have cholesterol and blood pressure issues i would eat beef jerky a lot would it be weird though if me and you were in an email correspondence and i just kept bringing bringing up like my beef jerky that would be weird right yeah i don't even think i would have an email correspondence with you where i would keep talking about pizza you know how many times do we bring up pizza i mean well we talk about pizza and i don't even think i would have an email correspondence with pizza i mean well we talk about pizza and i don't even think i would have an email correspondence a lot but we call it pete so just so you know if you ever see a email from me and yanni and we're talking about pizza just know it's a fake because we say pete's yeah it's just jeffrey i've seen loved beef jerky yeah he just loved it delicious lunch beef jerky it's what it is that's what he had for lunch so the kid just had beef jerky yeah six bags in the downstairs freezer for this trip six bags of beef jerky it's what it is just see wild yeah because we went wild on text we did right well we'll do a text episode i said i said save it save it what do you mean save it for the for the 25 should we just do it now in the moment and then we'll cut it yeah yeah yeah i mean sometimes it's just good right to crack them open yeah it's just fun yeah we just have a good time when we text yeah and it's just good you got to be so you got to be silly you gotta be silly you gotta let go the thing about the text is you can cross the line you know you can have a really good time yeah you can have a really good time you have fun and people are like oh but like don't like they could see your text messages i don't care anymore do you care anymore about like if the phone has your fucking facial recognition technology and ai can use your likeness who cares i don't care i truly don't care at all i don't care whatever whatever take it take my social security number i don't care yeah i mean what are you resisting just to go with it you got to submit you got to submit yeah that i think that's what i said to you i said i'm submitting so i'm you submit to you've submitted to allah you're going full muslim now you just have to submit to it yeah and that's the only way because what what the little thc does is gets you you get a cathartic laugh you laugh a lot yeah you're laughing every day i don't laugh that much because you're present right now that's what it does probably yeah it's bringing you present so you're present right now you're here so i gotta do more thc well you're gonna that's gonna you're gonna run into trouble that way but how does that's what we call a shortcut a shortcut yeah you're in a shortcut right now but it's giving you evidence that when you're fully here you're actually enjoying yourself immensely yeah because i never laugh i never dance in concerts no you just you because you're somewhere else worrying about losing stuff you're worrying about losing things constantly constantly worried about the dark yeah you're scared of the dark you have a lot of fear in you yeah but why because of your childhood so how do i fix it you call up the town you get a permit and you get a roofer over and you let them bang around up there yeah you just need somebody to bang around up there a little bit right but you gotta you gotta you gotta want it you gotta like want to go in there and like really want it you can't just go in there and talk about your day but then do you gotta talk about your feelings and then you go see the pros what do you mean eventually the prozac then you go you can go you could go to the pros yeah i want to go to the pros you could stop being an amateur you can go to the pros you could uh call my boy lex right he'll take care of you okay a little he's also a pro he's a pro yeah he's a pro his little name's lexa pro yeah yeah and i mean you know that's a basic you could if you want to go basic just go to alexi lex lexi is sexy what's a good one what's one that'll knock you out well they go yanni yanni clonny no well the clonys will clonys will make you sleep right but if you want a little space from the anxiety lexi's good for that lexi low space for me a little lexi and a little weed i think you can do that a little bit more if you want a little space from the anxiety lexi's good you can but it's not more the lexi i think it's you know it's the roofer you need the roofer with the pro you need the roofer who's a pro and then you need him to send you to the pros yeah i mean that's but unless you know if you really want it it depends on what you want we're all free to find out what we want but if you're enjoying it because this is the first time i think i've ever seen you laugh and you cried i mean i was laughing crying with you never laugh you're never you're never listening listen here's the thing you got to do yourself a favor everybody you need to go to patreon.com slash history hyenas the the patreon episode that we just put up when we start playing videos of my uncle russell i it's the funny i literally you've never seen me laugh like that my eyes were turning inside out and then the 25 level we just read last week's text messages and i almost started vomiting from laughing yeah we got a new series out there text where we're just going to read our text once in a while up there and that's what you're just going to get at the twenty-five dollar level so wait cuz before you went to the pros did you were you not present or was not being present not your problem you're always present no i wasn't present yeah so now you know it's a clear difference from what being present is and what being not present is i know there's a clear difference between being present and what not being present i know there's a clear difference between having a awareness about yourself and i have a clear uh understanding about how you need to integrate your personality you need to integrate yourself you got to reintegrate yourself into one and accept all there's things we put over here with shame there's things over here from fear and we they're away you gotta bring that back all into you so you're one full person the good the bad the ugly so right now i'm six or seven different people you're about six or seven different people yeah but the thing is it's fun being all these people if it's fun then you just keep doing it i mean you're free to do what you gotta do it's up to you i mean new york i need to get in the pros yeah it's up to you jesse do you feel like one person no not at all no yeah i feel like five different people right yeah yeah i think we you know it depends on what you got look i think everybody in here has got a little a little leak sure because i mean look at what we're doing i mean yeah yeah this is this this these types of career choices used to be only for leaky roofs yeah now everyone's doing it because they don't know what else to do right but we've been doing it since only leaky roof people we got into it for because we have leaks in our roof it's just what it is and usually by the way i love when we do an episode here we're just promoting your other show the whole time where oh yeah yeah that show airs i mean once every time the olympics comes out i mean you don't even know when it's coming i mean it could be once every three months yeah it's just whenever we get ads whenever there's ads we may do it um but yeah it's it's a it's a i think we get into this because we got a leak you got a little bit of a leak and i think that that just is unresolved stuff it's just what you just got to resolve because just bad feelings that you got to learn and because bad feelings are not bad they're a clue right it's a clue it's a clue trying to tell you something you're trying to go look behind the door number two well that's why people i think do major shortcuts and they do a little thing called ayahuasca supposedly all those things that are lurking you see them with ayahuasca that way people no i don't want to do ayahuasca i think that's a little bit of a shortcut in my opinion right but it works so i like doing the thc i the next morning well that's good but the only problem is you may end up getting dependent on that that's that's the problem that's the problem yeah i mean well i mean cuz well the thing is if if you know if your wife turned around and told you that after you took her to the back street boys last week she wants to go back again this weekend you would need a little weed seltzer too that is a point i can't argue so it's like if that wasn't on that i probably wouldn't be having a weed seltzer in seven slices if i wasn't having to force myself to go back to vegas to see a concert i didn't want to see in the first place yeah well that is a point i cannot argue i was so yeah i can't argue that point yeah yeah that's that's something i could say uh i would have to double up on the seltzes yeah you just double up on a seltzer and let me tell you something right now you do look very very cute today we established it on the patreon but your jeans are too tight and they're too close your jeans are close well that's the thing is when i put on a little weight everything gets a little tight but okay because you said in the patreon that you don't care at all about how you look you don't care if you come in your ass 95 percent dirty you'll wear like your clothes but like don't you guys as a fashionista doesn't it bother you if your clothes are tight or how do you feel about that i just well then i have to go buy on i have i have different waists right and then i much like you i'll try to put a bunch of jeans on yeah and they just don't work so i'll have to actually find the ones you have to find my fat jeans right so i gotta like look through and find them and then for a while i was wearing all these jeans that i used to wear and it was great right and then now i have to go buy them and i have to only fit into about two pair so this is one of the two pair i can fit in fit into yeah and they're close squeeze like so and it's interesting too because it's like yeah i think that's my anxiety and stress too because if i couldn't fit into my clothes i'd cry i've told you how many times i've cried about my weight that has to be anxiety and unresolved issues there's no other option cuz cuz i mean the fact that i cry if my clothes don't fit my uncle's a cat judge is it 10 yeah it's a 10 yeah and my mom hides the beers under the vegetables it's very funny And if you're truly crying, if you can't fit into your pants. Like, truly crying? That means there's unresolved issues. There's no other option. Yeah, because you shouldn't be crying. Yeah, because it happened to me when I went to the Knicks game on Tuesday. Yeah, I'll put it simply. This is the way you know. If you're crying at things you're not supposed to be crying at, then there's what we call an unresolved issue. So as a man who's got a perfectly, thankfully, happy, healthy family and life, if I cry four days out of seven, that's a problem. That means that there's what we call, and I'll say it again, unresolved issues. It's what it is. Yeah, because it can't be about that. Right. It's not about that. Yeah, because I like to cry a lot. If you're running the water in the bathroom to take a piss, right, why is that? Right. You don't need to run the water to go to the bathroom, but you're doing it because you need some noise. You get a little anxiety. Yeah. You can't pee or something. I need to have my phone. Yeah, like something, whatever it is. I need to play music. Yeah, you need something. So you're scared to be alone. Scared to be alone. I'd say it's probably big that you're scared to be alone. That's probably why. You feel like you may disappear or you'll be unsafe or something. Well, that's probably why I love New York City so much, because I never feel like I'm alone. That's probably why, yeah. Right, and that's why the country bugs me out a little bit. Probably, yeah. It's probably. But some people are just the opposite. They like to be alone. But here's the thing, because all your problems or whatever make you a very charming kid, so it's whatever you want to do, you're going to be fine either way. As long as you're not taking girls to an island. Which I'm not. It's a good time not to have an island. It's what it is. While I am taking girls to an island, it's called fucking Treasure Island in Las Vegas. You would think that people would say, I got an island, I'm happy. But it just shows you nobody's ever happy because the kid was rich enough to have his own island. He was like, that's not good enough. I need to transport minors across state lines to my island now and give them away. That's Jeffrey Epstein we're going to talk about. Who a lot of people don't talk about is his partner in crime, Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell. Because this is the one who started it all. Supposedly. You might not have any Jeffrey Epstein without Robert Maxwell. Because right now I'm feeling a little buzzed and you know what I could really use? Is a hard cock. That's why I turned to Blue Chew. I like to chew them. Blue Chew will get you nice and rock hard, get you saluting, get you up. Hey, let's be honest. Even if you got no problems. Down there. Yeah. It doesn't hurt to give your dick a little steroids. Give it a little steroids. Do you think gay guys sometimes like to just eat Blue Chews off each other's limb cocks? I think so. Yeah. I think they do. Yeah. 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And so he doted over her so much. She named. She named his yacht, the Lady Giseline or whatever it was called. Lady Gasoline. I like to call it Gasoline Maxwell. Maxwell, yeah. And that's the, that's the, that is the boat that he fell off when he tripped over his shoelace. And he chased the tingle right into the water. So he was perfectly healthy and just died in a boating accident. He was, he was in his 60s and yeah, there was no health issues. He chased the tingle, meaning he was running after a girl and he fell? Meaning when you look at his life, no, when you look at his life. He had a very interesting life, right? He had a very interesting life, Robert Maxwell. He was a very, very, very poor Orthodox Jew from Czech, from the Czech Republic. Although he was British. Well, this is the thing. Yeah. So his real name is not Robert Maxwell. So his real name is like. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. And his real name is Jan Ludwig Heimann Benjamin Hosch. Jan Ludwig Heimann Benjamin Hosch. Yeah. In Czechoslovakia. He grew up like in a very. Like extreme poverty, like no shoes type poverty in this Orthodox Jewish community. And he left. He was a smart kid and he left and he left it like he went to France. And along the way, he was just learning languages. The guy ended up speaking like nine languages. Damn. So he leaves. And at that time, Nazi Germany starts doing what they did. Right. So he ends up. It was our version of collectivism. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way to call it. Everyone's just going to get together and you're all going to go through that door. You're going to go through that door together. Yeah. Yeah. But you put a glove on to open the door because it's hot. It's what it is. Yeah. And so he goes, he makes his way to Britain and he joins the military there. Right. And he ends up becoming like a fucking ferocious warrior. Right. Like he's in firefights and, you know. He ends up making it to intelligence because of his language skills. But he was a sick fighter. He was a sick fighter. He won some medal of bravery for something. He gets into the intelligence branch of the British military. Right. Right. And then the war is over and he goes back to check and he's in charge of sort of some post-war administration. And that's where we get the first controversies about him. That this is a trauma-baked kid. Yeah. So he's one of the, he ends up looking the other way on a lot of the atrocities that were done to former Nazis or citizens who were German or whatever. He lets the torturing happen big. Big. And before he can be tried or anything happens, he just bounces. He's back and he's back in England. So a little controversy there that he skirts around. There was no internet there. So he just got away with it. He was probably pretty cruel to POWs and stuff like that. What it was. Yeah. The kid got some revenge. Right. Then he goes back there. He changes his name to Robert Maxwell to sound like very British. He officially changes his name. He becomes a British citizen because he's a war hero and he kind of rides that out. Right. Then the next thing you know, he ends up being a ruthless businessman and he ends up buying the Daily Mirror. Right. The Daily Mirror becomes his thing. I've heard of this paper. Yeah. It was, he becomes, he purchased the Mirror Group. Um, newspapers and the Daily Mirror becomes like his thing. That's this thing. He's got other stuff going on too. He's a big hostile takeovers. Like he's doing it all. Right. He's a vicious businessman. Right. Um, early on he had, um, he founded the Pergamon Press and he wanted to take it public or he wanted to sell it. And then the, the company he was selling it to ran an audit on their numbers and that's when he was publicly. the first time, the kid was skimming, the kid was stealing big right and so it was a big story too but he's he's what was he robbing he was robbing money he's just robbing a lot of money so then that's a big story in england but somehow he goes back and he starts purchasing all the shares of paragon okay and he gets back on the board somehow and he does a hostile takeover and takes the company back it's what it is yeah so he's just a kid who's resilient but also as sleazy as they come he's pushy he's he is a pushy pushy guy yeah he's very pushy so then from there after all this controversy is known about him he uh he ends up making the big person purchase of the mirror group and then he runs a very successful paper the daily mirror he uses it as his propaganda arm and um he writes bad stories about his rivals him and rupert murdoch are rivals his paper is more like the left-wing paper rupert murdoch's is more like the right-wing paper did rupert murdoch ever go on epstein's island or no we don't know i don't know we don't know i haven't heard him yet no yeah no um and then um he he uses it he's very pro-israel in his in his article and his in his daily mirror and he lives he gets rich he has nine kids um the oldest one dies goes into a coma and dies uh trauma he he cheats on his wife constantly he's got hoes in all the area codes uh he he puts he pits his kids against each other very tough he was kind of like uh menendez senior right without all the sexual abuse and he was just kind of a dick dick yeah and then he um becomes a member of parliament for a little while he just gets into high society right but it his then then but his scandal he's known like he's known as like a bad dude right he's still pushing his way in there he just gets in he just gets in and then the big big um scandal hits and it was like one of the biggest in business history he he stole like 400 million from his company from his employees from their pensions their pension so he was just running up a tab stealing all his employees monies and how did he not go to jail for that so it was all in the works that that's what was going down when when we lost them so he uh he used the mirror group pension money to prop up other failing companies and support his stock price so he was basically running a version of a ponzi scheme he was stealing from his employees to pay for his other shit right so he was just in debt and he was disgraced and he owed all this money and make no mistake this is one of the largest scandals this is up there with bernie madoff right huge right so um it's actually considered like one of the largest corporate scams in history and so and he's a well-known guy in high society so he's completely disgraced at this point he sends before this he sent uh gislein maxwell to america to be sort of his social scout she doesn't do shit except party right meets people and networks for him so that's what she's doing and he has two twin boys running his company they're like the vice president and they all got fucked by this right so the the theory is the theory is he either killed himself because he was his back was against the wall and it was all falling apart in my opinion he doesn't seem like the type of guy that wouldn't continue to fight right figure something out because he already had been disgraced big once before and came back right right so he's a known thief he's a known piece of shit right he was able to bounce back um he goes on his he goes on his yacht with his wife and the staff and he's like sail me to the canary islands or some shit and then one night he just mysteriously falls off the boat and he's like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so Off the boat. Right? They do a quick autopsy. They close it. They do the same thing with Epstein. Quick autopsy. Heart attack. And they say heart attack. But his body fell into the water. He just fell into the water. Yeah. They say he had a heart attack and he fell into the water. Right. But maybe he did, but you think somebody made him have a heart attack. Well, the theory is, and this sounds very much like his personality, the theory is he was a big-time Mossad asset. Right. You know, because he was in bed with intelligence from all over. He wasn't exclusive either. He was just, he loved Israel and he was working, they say he was working for Israel, but he also, to the highest bidder, he was like a quadruple agent. Right. He was using his, you know, he was using his leverage in the world for money, for influence, for political. Right. He would use it if the politicians would go easy on regulating him, whatever. Right. He was just a player. Yeah. He was a dirty player and so they suspect, this author wrote a book and a few other people are saying what could have happened, or according to this one guy who's a little, he's not that, he's supposedly a former ex-Mossad guy who says what happened was, is that there was some big arms deal that he was involved in. Mm-hmm. Much like they're saying Jeffrey Epstein might have been involved in, it's interesting. Like similar types of people. Without the pedophilia shit that we know of. He was, he was, did some arms deal on, and he was the liaison, the middleman between Israel and whatever arms deal, and it was like this big scandalous arms deal, and he was threatening to reveal that unless the Mossad paid him $400 million to get him out of his debt. And the Mossad was like, no, we're just going to get rid of you, and since you're threatening to blackmail us, you're now a threat to us. And so now we're going to make you chase the tingle right into the ocean. It's just what it is. So, and he was a kid who loved the tingle. He was a big gambler. Yeah. He was a big, he liked to gamble with these companies. Yeah. Women were like, it was crazy how many women he would bang out. Right. So he was a kid who liked to chase the tingle. And then when you threaten the Mossad and try to blackmail the Mossad, you're a kid who likes the tingle. And you'll get killed for that. And then, so wait, so then he gets, but then the interesting thing is, he then gets an Israel state held funeral. That's the thing. So that tells you that not only was he a Mossad, he was probably very high up in the Mossad. Yeah. And they also, someone gave a speech at his, someone high up gave a speech at that funeral and said, he's done more for Israel than I can say, or something. It was, if we can pull the exact quote, it was something, praised him as a great friend of Israel, but there was also a specific quote where he's like, he's done more for Israel than I can say, or something. And so, you know, I think that's, I think that's a very cryptic like that. Right. He obviously, I mean, yeah, I mean, he's not an Israeli citizen. No. So it's like, what is this? What is this? What is this? Yeah. Yeah. And his daughter, of course, Ghislaine Maxwell, and this is where, you know, everything gets tied because maybe Ghislaine, right? Maybe, maybe Gasoline was also Mossad and recruited Epstein. Is that possible? Well, that, that's what we don't know. But here specifically, it was called the, what is it? How do you pronounce his chest? Venunu? Mordecai Venunu. Mordecai Venunu. Yeah. So this was in 1986. Venunu revealed details of Israel's nuclear program to the Sunday Times. Shortly after Venunu was lured to Rome by a Mossad operative, he was kidnapped and secretly taken to Israel. He spent 18 years in prison. Seymour Hersh, who's a famous investigative journalist in America, claimed in his book, The Samson Option, that Maxwell tipped off Israeli authorities that the Sunday Times was preparing the Venunu. If true, that would mean Maxwell directly assisted Mossad in stopping or mitigating a major nuclear leak. This claim has never been definitely proven, but it remains one of the most widely cited pieces of evidence. And I love Seymour Hersh, but he also wrote a book saying that Oswald operated on his own. So, you know. Yeah, it's just what it is. And we just kind of know now. How do they have different, now they have different camera angles. Yeah, well, JFK. Supposedly they got one that's worth 900 mil, right? Oh, that's right. We did it last week. Last week. Yeah. Mint Mobile, our man Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, talk to me about Mint Mobile. Is it mint? Guys, it's fucking mint. I love Mint Mobile because you're paying way too much for Verizon Wireless, asshole. 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It seems like that's definitely part of it. They were not involved with CIA or FBI. Or you could say like, how would the intelligence agencies not be interested in them? You know, it's like there's no way. You know, it's just sort of like they're going to be aware. I mean, Maxwell was an obvious asset to Israel because he was, you know, a big wig in the press and shape public opinion. Right. Propaganda is a big part. You want to you want the stories about Israel to be nice and shiny. Right. So it's like it's just that's how the world operates. Right. Power game. It's just all a power game because yeah, power game. And we're a couple of power bottoms. We're a couple of power bottoms. And I mean, what Epstein was doing, you know, even if he wasn't doing all the sex trafficking and minor stuff, he would still be somebody based on who he seemed to know and talk to. That would be interesting to governments, intelligence agencies. Well, now his brother, the guy that we met, and now his brother I saw is in the newspaper because all the build, his brother owns all the buildings. And now they're finding on the Epstein emails that one of these buildings on like 66th Street was where they would keep all the models. Yeah. But his brothers, the one that owns the building. Yeah. It was like some apartment building where he led all the. He had like nine apartments in one building. Yeah. Yeah. And the brother. Yeah. Mark Epstein. Is that him? That doesn't look like him. That's not the guy. That's not him. Put, yeah, put this on him. There, go to the right a little bit, Jess, with the clicker. Right. That's him. That's him. Yeah. You know, with the glasses. That's him. We met him. Wild boy. And he was going to come to the comedy cellar. Yeah. He's a good, he's, he actually was pretty nice guy. He was a good guy. He was a good guy. He was a good guy. He was like a nice guy. Charming guy. Funny though, he too has like a working class Brooklyn Jewish accent. So Jeffrey Epstein did too, right? Yeah. I never heard his accent. I mean, his dad, Jeffrey Epstein's dad worked for the parks department. He was just like a fucking guy. Right. I mean, he was just, he was just a kid from Brooklyn, right? He was just a kid from Brooklyn who dropped out of college. Then all of a sudden was recommended to Bill Barr's father, who was the headmaster at Dalton to be a teacher there. And then he was a teacher there for two years of math and physics. He never had a job before. It was his first job. He just, boom. But he obviously must have known math and physics. It sounds like that's, you're, you're creating a life for someone. You're starting off someone to have legitimacy. Right. You know, that's what it seems like. Oh, so, oh, that's interesting. Yeah. You usually can't get a job without a master's. So you think, oh, so it, it, it didn't start. It started when he was like in his twenties. It started. They started grooming him and then getting him up there. Yeah. Otherwise it makes no, it just doesn't make sense. It's just, you know, well, Lex Wagner, what Lex Wagner did for him doesn't make sense unless you're creating someone. You're creating an ass. It just doesn't make sense. But here's the thing. Bill Barr's American. Lex Wagner's American. Right. So maybe he's a CIA asset. It's probably, it's, it's just as possible or probable. I mean, of course he's, he's friends. He was at buddy, buddy with, uh, what? Echak Baruch, whatever his name is. The former prime minister of Israel. Oh yeah. They got them on tape. He's constantly hanging out with him. But you know, these governments, you know, especially if they're allies, they all work together. Right. They all work together. So then do you think it was by chance Jeffrey and gasoline Maxwell met, or you think that was all coordinated too? Well, by that time, her life was in shambles when she met Epstein. Right. Like she had no money. Her, her brothers were at trial. Her dad was dead already. Her brother was owed 400 million. It was on him cause they worked. Dad's dead. Um, the brothers get off. They, they, because the defense goes, oh, they were victims of the dad. And so, you know, they get off, but she's in New York and she's just got nothing. She's nobody more. She's also disgraced. Like her family name is shit now. Right. It's like gross. Like everyone's whispering. It's like her father. Yeah. And, uh, she meets Jeffrey Epstein and they have a romantic relationship. And then the next thing, you know, she's like, it's the main episode. So I can't say it that way, but she, she's, um, handling his properties. She puts her in charge of all the, but she's just running his shit. Yeah. I mean, look, Maxwell, the, the, the fact that they haven't killed her is just makes me feel like, does she even really know anything? Why did she plead the fifth on everything in Congress? It still just doesn't make sense. Cause wouldn't you think that in order for her to get out of prison, she would just tell everything she knows and cut a deal. I don't want her to talk like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Those are very good questions. I don't know. But these emails that are coming out are interesting. Who knows? But it's interesting because Jeffrey Epstein was, is kind of like her dad, like suspected of being a spy. So it's very Freudian, isn't it? It's almost like Freudian. Right. That's what she just shows. We always go after someone who reminds us of our mothers or fathers, mothers or fathers. Yeah. I mean, and then, and then she's involved in another, like the family's involved in like another massive. Scandal. Yeah. I mean, they're just scandalous people. They're what we call pushy people. It's interesting to think what made Robert Maxwell, what he is. Right. You know, war, poverty, you know, he probably got to be driven by something. It was driven probably to never feel helpless and poor again. Right. So that's when you can't shut it off. You know, like how you were saying those guys would tease you and make you go out. You tried in the football helmet and then you used it as motivation. Yeah. But then you switched it off when you switch off. Yeah. This guy probably just couldn't switch that off. Yeah. And he just kept going and then needed a new one. So he was never happy. This guy. No, of course not. Yeah. You can't be happy that way. Yeah. Right. You're just in a constant state of revenge. Yeah. And you can see, you know, cause he, that's how he was. He was, he was that like that with his, uh, enemies in business. He was just always obsessed and trying to get revenge. Right. You know? So. All right. A little like Trumpy. Trumpy's like that a little bit. Yeah. Trumpy's a little like that. I mean, listen. Seeks revenge. It seeks revenge. At all costs. Yeah. I mean, fucking Robert Maxwell. Interesting. Interesting kid. I mean, free Ghislaine. No? Well, free her, free her natty titties. She has natty. She's got nice titties. And Jeffrey Epstein was fucking ripped and kind of cute. He was kind of cute as the thing. Can we just be honest? Are there anybody who thinks Jeffrey Epstein's a zaddy? He's a little bit. A little bit. What girl out there says Epstein's a zaddy? Not a bad looking guy. Jeffrey Epstein's kind of a cute guy. Let's be honest. He's got good hair, good bone structure, and he's kind of jacked. Let's be honest with ourselves. Jeffrey Epstein's kind of a hottie with a body. I mean, the kid without his shirt on, he definitely took care of himself. Yeah. I mean, let's be honest. I mean, look at that one in the fucking tighty whities. You don't think I've absolutely hit the ham can with that a couple of times? I mean, the kid is just got a good. Jacked, nice bod. Yeah. So it's what it is. Gross man. I mean, this guy, this guy's a member of parliament who's Winnie the Pooh-ing it. Yeah, that's just. He's just got a shirt and his turtle cock in it. He's just his tighty whities and the kid just. He had to resign. Because he denied it all and said that he never went to the island and then somebody posted. Posted that and then we just had the. That's not good, right? The head of Chase Bank just had to resign too. Really? Former Obama White House counsel. What the hell? Well, she was corresponding with Jeffrey after he was a sex offender and they were like, you know, he got people to really be loose. Right. Like people would talk very loose. I mean, Deepak joked and we joked about that. People were very. This chick was looser. She called him Uncle Jeffrey. Like. Right. They just. How do they put their guards down? Because the kid was just full of charisma. Like his brother. We met his brother. Yeah, I think the kid was just full of charisma. I mean, there was a reason I think he was probably propped up and groomed to be who he was. Right. Because none of this is his. Right. That's the thing that's interesting. And it's so funny that it's taken so long to be like, should we talk to Lex Wexner? Yeah, because it's like he wasn't rich. He was just given things. He was given everything. So it's like, why are we not asking Lex Wexner? What's his name? Lex Wexner. Lex Wexner. Why are we not going, hey, dude, what's up? Right. Because he had none of this was his. He didn't have any business. Right. He had one client. Right. He had one client, Lex Wexner, and it wasn't even a client. Lex Wexner just gave him money. Power of attorney gave him all these houses. And that was it. So all those things that Jeffrey Epstein owned, it's actually Wexner. Wexner bought them all. It was fucking Wexner just giving them money and saying, manage my money, do this, do whatever. It's wild. People say he was good at math and he was doing all these business for people, but there's no record of it. Right. So maybe he was doing it off the books. Yeah, maybe he was good at math, but there's a lot of people good at math. And maybe he was doing illegal shit. I don't know. But as far as we know, he bought Les Wexner's house, which is the biggest townhouse in New York City, for $1. It's what it is. From Les Wexner. So it's a story that's full of weird shit. My question is, because I don't really remember. I'd like to go back in time. When he got arrested right before he died, whatever, it was 2018, 2019. Was he a known guy? Was he already famous in the news because of his crimes? Or people have just like. Like, what? Why did they make this story such a big news story when he got arrested? Well, here's the thing that's even crazier. So he got arrested in 2008 in Florida. But it wasn't like a big public thing. It was. It was a big public thing. It just wasn't the day of the internet. So how many people cared about the news? Right. How many people cared? Back then, nobody was arguing about politics because people didn't know anything. But that's my question even right there. Like, him not being a famous guy or whatever, like, why would the news care about a pedophile who, at that point, wasn't famous at all? Or was he famous back then? He was known as like a big time. Like an elite, elite billionaire. Socialite. Yeah. He was a known guy. Okay. So in 2008, he gets convicted of this stuff. Right. Right. And Alex Acosta. Is that his name? Alex Acosta? His last name's Acosta. Okay. Is the prosecutor on there. And he gets this crazy, crazy sweetheart deal. Where he pleads guilty to one thing or whatever. He gets like 13 months. But he's. The 13th month, he's allowed to leave the jail and go to work. Yeah. So it's like he sleeps at the prison and then he spends all day wherever he claims he works. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's crazy. Right. He's. This is a child trafficker. Right. Right? And they just say you can go to work. And then here's the crazy shit. Part of his deal is he or any of his co-conspirators can never get out of jail. They can never be federally prosecuted. What the fuck is that? That's wild. How wild is that? So all you have to do is just like. I think this happened at a time before the internet where people did. The elites didn't see this coming. Right. They could just kind of be bold about this shit. Right. Because they were like, nobody's listening. Only people who are reading about this are people who probably know Jeffrey Epstein. Right. So who gives a shit? Right. So, yeah, he pleads guilty to this. And in exchange for pleading guilty to this, they give him. They give him complete immunity and all his co-conspirators. Yeah. All his co-conspirators complete immunity from federal prosecution in the future. But then why. But then how did they arrest him again? Because they got him on another law. They were like, it got so. There was so much outrage about it. There was so much talk about it. Because people were. See, because we were talking before. How come no models ever say this or that, Jesse? Remember we were saying? But I think they did back then. They were all getting together saying we were raped, we were this, we were that. But. Maybe they're just not on the internet now. But they said it back then. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. 2019 is when they. Oh, it was because that chick came forward. And it was the Me Too movement. It was a bunch of stuff. That's why it got big. It was that Guthrie chick came forward. And she started doing a civil suit and the Me Too movement. And there was the pressure. And they were just like, all right, maybe we should let him be the fall guy. And then we'll end it there. And then they'll stop. It's always been. And then they'll stop asking, right? Right. Right. They just keep hoping people are going to move on. Right. But the problem is people are just not moving on. Not this one. They're not going to move on because. People don't seem to be moving on. But how funny is that deal? It's a very funny deal. So even there, you're going like. I mean, all I. There's got to be somebody important to other powerful people in order for him to get that sweetheart deal. I mean, because I just hope I get that deal. That's a good fucking deal. It's a nice fucking deal. You know what else they got to deal? Carvel. Yeah. Yeah, because I want to read these Patreon names. We've got the newest members of the matriarchy that came through. And I want to read out some of these names. As always, you get whoever we think the funniest name is wins the PPW, the Pseudo-Opinions of the Week. And I'm too high to remember the website. Other than patreon.com says history. Hey, he knows. Let's do it. Hit by a Frisbee space laser. Now I look like a Leroy. You gay? I'm not gay, but I love to cuddle. I kissed Barack's pussy and drowned in a puddle. That's a message from the chef from beyond the grave. Just what it is. That's a big time direction. That's very funny. Swim. Then we got Urban Man. Urban Man knocks a shouty up and splits, a.k.a. Womb of the Unknown Leroy. You got that? Womb of the Unknown, like Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Okay, so that's whatever. Christian Nickerson, Jeremy and Chanel Mike, Frisbee Showers, established 1940, sponsored by Ju-Glue. Yeah, no more of these. This is stupid. DJ Spinelli, still a virgin, call it the Father Bill loophole. Maddie Davis, Tramp. Matthew Marufi, glue gun is stuck, call me Army Jammer. Oh, instead of Army Hammer. Good try. I'll chicken finger that one. All right. Yeah. Trent, Travis Miller, gay Venezuelan singer, call me Elton Juan. Matt Yutt. Drexler. Wee Wee Sperman. Drexler. Chrissy's guy and his ex-girlfriend was actually a guy on his knees. Drexler. Drexler. Megan Hexerpath, Mexican Osempi, call me GLP Juan. GLP Juan. Like GLP Juan, GLP Juan. Is that GLP Juan? Yeah. Very funny. Drexler. Drexler heavy. Giannis is one big sneeze away from being a Cyclops. Which El Salvador prison did y'all send Venetia to? Chrissy D's realtor, Maria Smigles. My character piece was a piece of your character. William Lang, Brandon Link, Anthony, David. Got Bobby Lee's vision so Putin can do no wrong. Okay. Pretty decent. Yeah. Pretty decent. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to Drexler that. Had to break up with my GF when she said my meat candle tastes like her father Bill's Weishan shit. Not again. Okay. Okay. Renee, good driver's ed. Try it. It's worth a shot. Okay. James Ash. I mean, that is so walked into one. Yeah. I know. I know. Moved to Westchester to leave the Leroy's, but now I'm in the middle of an ultimate Frisbee tournament. List. I'm going to list it. All right. All right. It's a walk through to one kind of, but it's more list. This is, this is how we've never went this far without. This is the first one. I got it. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Chris, Chris Pace, which Hazel shit tickets, professor Mike, or hold on. Let me just do one more page. I'll give a chicken finger to the witch, which Hazel shit tickets. Very funny. I like that off the beam and flicking the bean. Erica Fogelman, foreskin balloon gives me a few inches. Cole, Justin Polshano, Teresa, call me Carly son, the way I tucked it. Okay. Nathaniel Reed, yummy. Puddles, Dylan, yogurt, slinger, 69. Make no mistake. I'd call through glass to hear Mariana attention. You'll fart through a radio. It's what it is. I'm on the list. Yeah. I'm on the list. I'm on the list. Sorry to, I don't want to disparage my friend, but it's too funny. Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's too funny. Yeah. Tiger Maximus, rub a dub, dub, my micro chub. Put them on the list. Yeah. Yeah. My micro show sat on Pinocchio's face and forced him to do it. He's going to tell me he loves me. Drexler. Funny. Yeah. Very funny. Any other day. My fume forest keeps me warm for the winter. Okay. Fume forest is very funny way to refer to your pubes. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to Drexler that. Fume forest. Nima Lasaya, walking down fifth Avenue and Frisbees keep asking me if I'm circumcised so I can come party. Montenegro, not a cowboy. Uh, blacks, black spick. Oh. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get it? These are just. Yeah. These are slurs. Well, the slur, I'll black stick with a small dick. Call it my Leroy Wood Jr. And that's it. Not that bad. Yeah. WX, Ian Griffith, Kenneth Woodall, Mama Taylor, William North, Jungle Fever, straight to the black. Um, psychosis is red on Twitch, TikTok, YouTube screwed in. There you go. There you go. If I'm a Minnesota manatee who wants to do over the squeaks, midget basketball team, Hugh G rec chin. Oh, huge, huge erection. Just here for the jokes. 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Oh Yeah yeah yeah Okay Alright well hold on Well that's the list I'm gonna give that one a chicken finger Alright give it a chicken finger Okay so here we go Yeah So it's not They're not knockouts But we do have some You'd be surprised Yeah You'd be surprised Okay So here So we'll take it So here is the list so far Make no mistake I'd crawl through glass To hear Marina Atanasio Fart through a radio It's what it is Keep it around I can't It's look It's funny enough to win Right But It's your friend It's a friend So just know you're funny enough to win That should be good enough for you So think about you Yeah Crawling through glass Just to listen to her fart Through a radio Is very funny I mean it's as funny as it gets Yeah That's as funny as it gets Rub-a-dub-dub Mind micro chub We're gonna chicken finger that It could've won Yeah It's just It's got some better ones What's hatching under them Frisbees cuz Just a funny one We're gonna Drexler Drexler Yeah But it is a funny one It's a funny one Yeah Okay Move to Westchester To leave the Leroy's But now I'm in the middle Of an ultimate Frisbee tournament Yeah Very funny We're gonna Drexler it Drexler that Any of these could've won Okay Alright So then we got I think the two contenders Stuck a traffic cone up my ass To see how it felt We do it right It's nothing to write home about Please call me an ambulance cuz Yeah And then Hey Dean I know you're listening Sorry I banged your girlfriend I didn't know how else to tell you I'm going with that guy Cause it's so original Yeah I've never heard anything like it You do? 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