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Robert E Lee: Best General wrong Squad | History Hyenas

The episode explores the complex legacy of Robert E. Lee, a Civil War general whose actions and beliefs remain deeply debated. Despite being a Confederate leader, Lee was a principled and tactically brilliant commander who championed honor, state loyalty, and gradual change in the treatment of slavery—contrasting with the violent realities of the war. His decision to fight for Virginia, rather than the Union, was shaped by personal and familial history, including his father’s Revolutionary War service and the emotional trauma of a father’s financial downfall. The hosts highlight how Lee’s leadership, though rooted in loyalty to his home state, was a product of a time when honor and duty outweighed political ideology. The discussion extends beyond historical facts to include modern parallels, such as political polarization, cultural misunderstandings (like the confusion of "Robert E. Lee" with a Chinese name), and the ongoing struggle between tradition and progress. Humor is used throughout to underscore the absurdity of current societal tensions, from the belief that Minnesota should be eliminated to the satire of political figures and media scrutiny. The episode concludes by reflecting on the enduring relevance of historical figures in today’s world, emphasizing how personal identity, mental health, and community values shape both individual choices and national narratives. It also promotes a more balanced view of history, urging listeners to appreciate the complexity behind figures like Lee rather than reducing them to simplistic moral labels.

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What's up everybody, we got a great episode today about Robert E. Rhee, the Civil War general, the complicated man he was. We also talk about a bunch of other fun stuff. You're going to enjoy this. You're going to really enjoy this episode. We potentially have a budding civil war here in the United States. So we said let's talk about everyone's favorite Civil War general, Robert E. Lee, and for people that don't know him, fun fact, he's not Chinese. Yeah, he does sound it, but he's not catch me on the road in Royal Oak, Michigan this weekend. That's outside of Detroit. More is playing New Jersey, two shows. They're almost sold out. So get them now. Bakersfield, California, West, Nyak, those shows have been rescheduled to April 24th through the 26th. Most importantly, come join our community at patreon.com/historyhyenas. We got a new series called Leaky We're Starting. We got a snowstorm and we got bonus episodes every week and you listen to these episodes at free and uncensored. It's beautiful and I will be in Las Vegas, February 6th at the David Copperfield theater and he's been doing a good job making some of my ticket sales disappear. Enjoy the app. Yeah. It's what it is. Welcome to the history, Hyenas. We are here. It is a new year. I told you we're here. The same queers, Chrissy D, Yani P, and I'm saying hello to you from the new skin tag on my eyelid. Yeah, I don't know whether to look at you or to look at that third little eye, but listen, just go to a dermatologist, hire a couple dollars, take it out of the family budget. They'll burn it right off. They can do that. Yeah, but it's on my eyelid. So if I get it, how am I going to open my eye? I don't want to come near with a patch on. If they can release a sonic weapon that takes away the ability of the Cuban guards to defend Maduro and mix them all bleed out their nose, they can take a little skin tag off your eye. They can take that skin tag off and build a penis with it. If they want to let me tell you something, I want to come in here with an wearing an eye patch and say I'm a Somalian because I'm like a pirate. You are. I mean, that skin tag is getting a little bigger. I can't take it though because- Am I still cute? The thing is I want to make you wear something right now. Tell me, denim looks good on you. Yeah, kind of. Something about denim and you, like just the skin color and the denim. Yeah. And the denim and my skin tag go hand in hand. I want to give a shout out to Keith, to Ronnie Fee, who owns Kith. He sent me this shirt because I did a little Kith New York City campaign for him and I got this shirt and I washed it and I shrunk it and he told me not to wash it. So I don't know how to have nice clothes, but Ronnie sent me something nice. Yeah, but you look super cute today. Now super cute. I feel super cute. We got Jesse Did you here? Nick, the stick. Now, Jesse, I'll just have to you. Sorry. Now, Jess, can you pull up the just Google blood vomit Venezuela and you'll find it was a New York Post article where a Venezuelan security guard over the weekend said gave a firsthand account of what happened. He said the United States military went in there and just hit them with a sonic boom like Gile from Street Fighter. Yes. Of course, the internet is not working. This TV is not working. And the days in the studio are numbered like the Iran, like the current regime of Iran. No, yeah, like the current, finally, a revolution to get excited about. Like Nick's snap benefits because the government's going to catch on. Yeah. They're going limited. Now, I can tell just from we always have a nice conversation. We have egg white wraps and peanut butter cookies. And we have a nice little feast before we start here. And I could tell that Nick's in a bad mood. So we have to find why Nick is sad. Yeah, no. Nick is sad today. No, the thing about Nick is I think Nick spends most of his day. And I can relate to this. Nick spends most of his day and going through an internal battle. Yes. So the internal battle is always there's a lot of anxiety. Yeah. So he's constantly battling the anxiety. So he's constantly having an internal monologue. Yeah. And he likes coming in here because we make ha ha's happen. And so he gets out of his head for one second. Yeah. But you got to understand he's a kid that lives in his own head because he's smart. He's a sensitive kid. He wants to be doing Shakespeare. Yeah. And so he's constantly like a hamster and we'll go and over. Yeah. Like, why am I not doing Shakespeare? Why am I not? But then he doesn't do anything about it. So he's just kind of stuck with anxiety. It's what it is. It's what it is. And Nick's between Nick's go T kind of being a little patchy. Nick balding down the middle and just his overall personality. I equate him to the golden globe winner one battle after another. Nick sees when he looks at the mirror. Yeah. It's just what about? No. I'm kidding. Nick. We appreciate you. Obviously, you know, joke around with you. But Nick, are you okay? We want to make sure you're okay because us being, you know, one of your employers, we need to make sure that your mental health is okay. Can I answer the question? Yes. And then he gets it. No, he's not okay. Yeah, but that's the norm. Yes. Nick, are you having a blue day because I can relate? Just go ahead. I feel fine. Yeah. I told you. It's kind of baseline. Everything you said was accurate except I don't actually like Shakespeare. There you go. He's more of a choice or guy. Yeah. Now, Nick, yeah, because because Nick, I've also been hit with I've been depressed lately. But I want to I'm here to tell you I haven't had sweets in about 48 hours, which is big for me. Yeah. And I have an alcohol in like five days. Now, have the kids coming back? How are you doing with gratitude? Because when you say you're depressed, let's just let's just lay a few things down here. I'd like to make some coaching changes. Some personnel changes. You got a lot of talent. You're very successful. You're a good looking kid. Okay. You do have a skin tag imperfections happen. I have a skin tag on my eyelid. Yeah. You were put together with spare parts from God's garage. But yeah. But that is what makes you hilarious. Right. Because with the face that you have, you're not supposed to be as funny as you are. Right. So not only did you get a good face, but you can wear baggy clothing and hide the weird body. Yeah. It's what it is. And your feet are the four. I do. Well, my feet are I think they gave me the same feet. What God did is he just put the left one on the right and the right one on the left. Yeah. I mean, he was just looking around going, what's left? Yeah. What's up? Yeah. I can whip something up as what he said. It was the end of the day. Yeah. He's whipped some up. You know, when you go in the refrigerator, my dad used to sometimes make spaghetti with yogurt because that was in the fridge and he made it. It's just what was left. Yeah. Yeah. And God just put it together. Yeah. But you got a lot of positive things going for you. Got beautiful family. Yeah. How have you started thinking about the things that you have as opposed to your addiction, which takes over and says, let's go get some stuff. We don't need. Yeah. Like, so I have what I did today is I let the feet settle on to the floor. I took I did this, which they can't fully do because your foot is shaped like a heal. So you can't get the middle of the foot on the ground. I foot. Yeah. Because my second toe that because my toes go like this. So my second toe never actually has hit the floor ever. Unless I take it off and push it down. And so, so it just automatically. So I'm a little bit off balance to begin with. So I literally my the way that I physically been constructed is I am designed to be off the beam. Yeah. Because my my middle toe right. My second toe can't hit the beam. Unless I physically push it there. Right. Right. I'm designed to be off the beam. So that's my homeostasis. That's my bounce. So what I did those today is I took a big deep breath in. Hold. And I came down and I settled and I did that five times. I did that five days, but on the fifth one, I breathed in a little bit too hard and I got nervous I almost passed out. Do you know, I just had a visual of your life and it made me laugh while you're talking. Do you know how when you watch garbage men when they when they when they when they're really in a rush, they want to get back to like a football game forever. I want to shout out the DSNY. Yeah, with the DSNY. So the DSNY guys who are listening to kid can relate. Yeah. They hop off the truck and they run and they get the garbage and the truck keeps going and they got to run to catch the truck. That's you with the beam. Yeah, you're constantly chasing the truck being right to hang on. Yeah, trying to hang on and I get it and then I got to step off it and then I got to run after. Right, right. But so and so, you know, but what I realized because is this. Yeah. What I've realized is this and this is, you know, beam cast is what I want to say to my friends is that if you try to take a deep breath in, take a deep breath in and hold it. What's going to happen? You're going to die because you can't breathe. The only way to live is to breathe. You have to breathe. So what do you have to do therefore let go of your breath. The only way to live a good life is to let go. Yeah. So you have to just let go and I learned that in frozen. I actually have a yeah, because right now we are just learning lessons from children shows. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I actually want to give a serious, earnest piece of advice to everyone. I think everyone can benefit from what I do. Yeah. I take 10 seconds every day. I think we're going to say 10 milligrams of so long. That's I take five milligrams of Alexa. Alexa. I think you're going to say that. Yeah. Five grams of Alexa. I need it's got to be a low dose enough to give me a little space for myself. Yeah. And also low enough that I can feel my penis head. It's just what it is. Because what happens when you go a little higher is you just can't feel your penis head. But that might work in my favor. It might work in your favor because I am all for you getting a little low dose. Yeah. I need to I may start putting in your foot. - No, but Cuz, but let me ask you a question. - I might start crushing up some of mine and put them in your omelette. - The thing that I'm nervous about is what happens though, if does it, is there, can it possibly cause weight gain? 'Cause your boy has gotten himself back up to 227. - And I'm back up to 217. - It's just what it is. - Yeah, we're two guys that shouldn't be able to be eligible to fight each other at the heavyweight class, but we are. - Yes. - No, I don't think it is weight gain, 'cause I've been on it and-- - And you've gained some weight! - No, but I've been fat off it, too. - Right. - I'm just an eater. - Yeah. - I got the heart of a fat kid. - Right, it's what it is. - It's just unfortunate. - So, okay. - The inside, my heart looks like Stavros does on the outside. - Right, yeah. - Yeah, so it's just what it is. - So, okay, so that's good to know. So maybe I'll get on that, because it is trying to get to the point now where the stress is getting to me where I've grown a skin tag on my eyelid. - So that's just what's happened. So, but it does go to show you that you can have all the things, like you said, you know, you gave me some nice compliments. I appreciate, but it doesn't matter because we are living our lives is the reality that we see. - Yeah. - And the reality that we feel it doesn't matter what others think. It matters what's inside here? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And if what's inside here is not okay, then you're not okay. - Yeah, then what's projected out? Isn't okay. - But maybe you just got to start with gratitude and take-- - That's what I forgot to say. I take 10 seconds, and this is a true thing that I do, and it works, and I'm telling you, I think it rewires your nervous system. - Okay. - Take 10 seconds a day, deep breath, and on the way out, on the exhale, I just say in my head, I choose peace. I choose peace. 10 seconds a day, I choose peace. (laughs) You can fart while you do it if you want. And it's just the words I choose peace, the exhale. See, the exhale activates your parasympathetic nervous system. It stimulates your vagus nerve, and the words I choose peace pack it to hell out of here. - Yeah, oh, I thought I'm choosing peace. I can't be looking at 11 knees. Put him in the closet. - That said, he thought he heard I choose to be a peace. - Yeah. - So he came in, and I think that works. Yeah, you got a lot going for you. I think if you started reframing a lot of stuff when you woke up and did gratitude, and started thinking about the things that you do have, you got your health. - Yeah. - You got Lynn Lighten candles. - Yeah. - You got my mom. - You got your mom. You got Daytime Tony. - Yeah. - You got my beautiful kids. - You got your beautiful kids. You got your wife. - Yeah. - Yeah, a common law, or whatever's going on. - Yeah. - You got a beautiful house. You got a beautiful career. You've achieved already everything you've set out to achieve. - Yeah. - You're a division three. Nobody cares fucking basketball star. I mean, when you go to St. Joe's, 'cause you were on the Hall of Fame, which is on a piece of Oster tag. - It's what it is. I make, they have his picture on a piece of colored Oster tag. - I was inducted into the school's Hall of Fame, and I was wearing sweatpants in my basketball sneakers. - You are a fucking legend in white basketball division three. - Right. - So you've done everything. - It goes back to what we say here on a weekly basis. Hope is my hedge, facts are my proof. I'm already winning. - Yeah. If you just found a way to calm that anxiety down, I mean, you're just a kid who can enjoy every moment of life because you see life in a very funny way. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You don't take things too seriously. - No, normally I don't, but then what happens is I don't take things too seriously, things switch. Things switch, and then what the problem is when I'm sitting down alone with my thoughts at night, and I'm like, oh, it's having so much fun today, and then the walls start to close in, 'cause I'm saying, what the hell did I do? - Yeah, yeah. - Well, that's just, okay, that's just who I am. Things change a lot at 40, a 41 now calls young, the great psychologist said your life really begins at 40, so I'm hoping that my life is beginning with a third eye. - Yeah. - And when I say third eye, I mean, the skin tag on my eyelids. - Yeah, yeah, and listen, I mean, you know, Freud was right about a lot of things, but if you currently can't, you know, get into anything that a Jewish person said, because you're into free Palestine, go to Carl Young, 'cause he's not a Jew, so you can believe what he says. I don't know what's one to do. Do we do free Palestine? Is it free I ran? Is it what's one, is it, where do we up to now? Is it free the smallians? Is it down with eyes? What's one, is it? Let's get Mark Ruffalo on the phone and find out what is good, 'cause he probably wore a couple of pins. I didn't wear the Golden Globes yesterday. It was just very funny to me that yesterday, there was a self-congratulatory Hollywood ceremony happening while outside there was anti-Iatola protests going and a U-Haul just running through protesters. It was very funny to me that one of the sites got up there and was like, you know, wanted to get on Ricky Gervais, 'cause that's what everyone's doing now, comics are going after each other, because everyone's desperate, everyone's mad. One of the signs, one after Ricky Gervais, for real? - Ricky Gervais, Ricky Gervais a little bit, and she wanted to give one to God. I want to take this award on behalf of the trans community and because, supposedly, Ricky Gervais is a transphob, which he's not probably, but it was just funny to me that all these all-way Gervais believe Hollywood problems are happening while massive revolutions are happening in two of the most major economies in the country. - Yeah. - Just maybe want to say to Hollywood, it's just fun to watch the bubble that they live in. - Yeah, it would be fun if, imagine like, she's making that speech in the U-Haul truck drove to the back of the award ceremony. - Yeah. - That would've been hilarious. - That would've been funny. And it's like Ricky Gervais isn't a homophob, just 'cause one time he said, "I don't want any lady dicks around me." - Yeah, it's just, the thing is, I respect if you want to have a lady dick. I just don't want it on my arm. - Yeah, that's just said. - That's all? - It's just, I mean, the kids making jokes. I mean, there's a lot bigger transphobes out there than Ricky Gervais. - Yeah. - I mean, the guys winning an award, do we have to do the, does it have to, do we have to bring in an issue? Just give the fucking awardees a community, and it's-- - Well, I don't, I feel like these people should, instead of like doing national issues, they should take that platform to do like a personal issue to them. Like, you know, like really talk shit about your neighbor that no one's ever heard of, you know what I mean? - Well, yeah, they, I mean, they just have this thing in their head that there's this war against the community, the LGBTQ community, because Trump's in office, but I just, if anything, there's just a war on Somalians who have Medicaid, right? - That's all it is, yeah. - I never hear Trump going after any gaze, but when you talk to the gaze, they're like, they're just taking a-- - We're being attacked. - But nothing has been attacked. - No. - Nothing has been attacked. - No. - Am I wrong? - No. - I know we're gonna, I'm gonna get shit in the comments. - No. - But has anything, has gay marriage been repealed? - No. - Has anything bad happening? - No. - No, everything. - Is there anything bad happening that wasn't happening during the Biden administration? - No. - To the gay community? - No, it's just all people are just, they like to follow narratives, because people want to see their own reality. - So I'm not wrong. - You're not wrong, Cuzz, and your shirt is tied around your arms. - I just, 'cause I got good, big bucket arms. - Yeah, Cuzz. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Now, Cuzz, now we are potentially, put that part on Patreon, 'cause I could be wrong. - Yeah, 'cause the thing is, you could be wrong, and it's also we gotta be careful because you, we gotta protect stuff and put some on Patreon, 'cause you don't wanna get yelled at by your wife again. So, aren't used to it. - Yeah. - So, I don't care. - Yeah, I just-- - But now, Cuzz, we are potentially people. Now, here's the thing. People say we're on the verge of a civil war, but the truth is, we're not, okay, we're not. You know what it is? Every generation thinks that they're living in the worst time to be alive, and they think they're living in some radical change. Nobody ever says, "Oh, I'm living in such a peaceful time." Everybody always thinks, "Oh my God, in the 1500s, people are saying that world's gonna end." And it's like, it didn't. So, I think we're okay. But, in the spirit of civil war, I wanted to talk about a little guy named Robert E. Lee, and on paper, he sounds Chinese, but he's not. That's a point that I'd never even thought of. - Robert E. Lee. He does sound like a Chinese general, right? - He does sound like that. - Because you could get nervous and say, "I wanna want General Robert E. Lee "invading the United States." - Yes. - Because we might, 'cause that's the thing, General Robert E. Lee, the head of the Confederate Army, did invade the United States, even though he was part of this, 'cause the civil war, he was against us, but we could also get invaded by the Chinese Robert E. Lee of current time. - Right. - If two guys walked into a room, and one was named Robert E. Lee, and the other guy was named John Chan, I would think that there was two Chinese guys. - If I put a picture of Xi Zhang Ping and Robert E. Lee, and I said, "Which one's name is Robert E. Lee? "You would have a tough time." - You would have a tough time, yeah? - You would probably pick Xi Zhang Ping. - Yeah, I mean, the Chinese guys just took a couple of American names, and they ran with them, leaves one of them. You got Chan, you got Chang. It's just long, it's just there's four names you pick from. Because their real names are just like, you got to draw pictures to say they're real names. It seems like a house to stick a bird to what it is. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, a lot of time for Chinese names, I just have to ask my daughter to write it out. Pre-K, I say, "Honey, just, you know?" - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they named them. - They just, they really complicated, right? - Now, 'cause the way I go pewing big for the Revolutionary War, you go pewing big for the civil war. - Big. - It was. - It was. - Yeah, it was, I go big. - I mean, do you think that this studio has Wi-Fi issues? Because truly, I'm being honest with you, do you think it's the people who work here on the outside are so fat that they constantly knock off the Wi-Fi when they knock back that? - 100%. - 100%. - Because I don't know why this Wi-Fi constantly goes out currently in the studio. And I wonder if it's got something to do with the people, the two people who run are combined 800 pounds. (laughing) - 100%. (laughing) - 100%. - 'Cause when the girl was here, the intern girl, the black girl, who was a piece. - Yeah. - That girl was, she was light and beautiful and we never had Wi-Fi issues. - 100% and it's not a coincidence every time I see Pat walk by, knocks out. - It knocks out, yeah. - And every time Chris comes here, I mean, the world, it's just shakes. - Yeah, it's just what it is 'cause maybe they're trying to connect around when they have marinara sauce on their fingers. - Yeah, unfortunately, we're just gonna have to call him Richter Scale Italia. - That's just what it is. - Yeah, he's just, he's the kids of planet. - Yeah, I mean, so of course the Wi-Fi just went out, but what do we know? [BLANK_AUDIO] are the chat GPT slots as you know, um, the grok guys, but Robert E. Lee, what I found fascinating about Robert E. Lee, because I know you know a lot about because you're a civil war cutie, but is his father, Henry Lightfoot Lee was a revolutionary war general. He was one of George Washington's favorite generals and Lightfoot Lee fought in the Revolutionary War when he was like in his 20s. And then he only had Robert E. Lee when he was in his 50s. So Robert and the Lightfoot Lee died when Robert E. Lee was 11, but Robert E. Lee had a father who fought in the Revolutionary War. But what happened with with Lightfoot Lee is Robert E. Lee would always hear about the war stories and he was like a famous, famous guy for being this revolutionary war general. But he died penniless and in a debtor's prison, his whole life got screwed up. Lightfoot Lee. Went into bad land deals and he got thrown into prison, he owed a lot of people a lot of money. So Robert E. Lee took that as, I have to defend my family's honor and I have to win my family's honor back. So even though Robert E. Lee went to West Point, had a revolutionary war father, he actually winds up heading the Confederate South, which is detracts from the actual United States. But he did it because he was all about honor. So Robert E. Lee said my honor lies with my state, the state of Virginia. And that is why I'm fighting for the Confederacy. Even though Robert E. Lee knew that slavery was bad, Robert E. Lee wasn't all about having slaves. Right. He understood the problem with it, but he said when it comes down to it, I have to fight with Virginia because did you know President Lincoln asked Robert E. Lee to command the union first? Yes. Because he was the best general of all. That's the funny thing is all these guys knew each other. They all went to West Point together. They all knew each other and then they just picked sides. Robert E. Lee's dad's name was Lightfoot. Yeah. So we can probably assume his downfall had to do with a little bit of alcohol. Yeah. You know, because if he had a little Native American blood, that takes them down. Yeah. And not to be confused, not to be confused with Yonnie's nickname, Light and the Loafus. Light and the Loafus? Yeah. Yonnie. Yeah. So that probably took him down and his dad was 50 when he had him. So that just means one thing. And you're hearing it first on history, Hyenas, that means Robert E. Lee was autistic. It's just that's probably why he picked the side that he picked because of some autistic reason. Yeah. Counting things or whatever. Do you think when they asked Robert E. Lee when they would say, "Sir, you have one night to choose. It's going to be the north of the south." He went like this? Yeah. I think he started doing that. I think he just picked. He started stimming. He started stimming. Yeah. He started stimming. Yeah. That because, you know, the research shows that for some reason people who are older and have kids, it's like they have more of an autistic kid. Now, you're a 50 year old kid, which is great because the sperm still swims big. Yeah. The sperm still swings big. So now, what are you going to do if you get one past the goal and you have a kid? Are you just going to assume it's autistic? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to assume that one's autistic. In fact, that's why we shouldn't have another one because the next one's definitely coming out for X. Yeah. That's why the only way around that is you've got to just start doing it in the butt. Yeah. You've got to do it around. Which is a little loophole that the Mormons like to do and I think, I think the musseys like to do that too. Because they hardcore Christians do that. They say they're virgins in the pus because we are going to do an episode on rum spring up big, big because I find it fascinating. The Amish rum spring is fun, fun where you can just go out and like shoot crank into your dick. Yeah. Bang girls in the ass. Yeah. And then you just go back and just become a Amish kid who churns butter. Yeah. I was going to say it's hard to like be out on the streets doing fentanyl. And then come back and you're peeling corn. Yeah. It's hard to do, but they do it. They get it. Yeah. 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Interesting to think that these guys all knew each other and the Civil War, you had brothers fighting against brothers. They picked sides, especially right there. What's interesting to me is back then, travel was so much harder and took longer. So like, when you looked across the river from Virginia to DC, that's what separated the south and the north. Robert E. Lee's crib was right across the river from DC and DC was the north and Virginia was the south. Robert E. Lee from his actual house could see the capital. People used to have their vacation homes in Brooklyn who lived in Manhattan. Isn't that wild? That wasn't going to the country. Well, you know what? It was the Civil War from 1861 to 1865. A lot of people say it was our only Civil War, but really, we had the Civil War. The Revolutionary War was also a Civil War because you had the loyalists who were loyal to the crown, but American citizens fighting against the Patriots who wanted to rebel. So it's always, there's always been a little bit of infighting in the United States as there is right now. There's always a little bit of infighting, but I think the Civil War happened into an actual full scale war because of geography. It would be very hard to have a battle today in Civil War because we're all living amongst each other. Right? There's no geographical dividing line like there was back then. Right, we're not going to have a Civil War based on any big issue like slavery or something. We're not going to have a Civil War at all. With that being said, if you want to choose sides if it happens, you're going to want to go to the right because they are a more armed. They have the guns, and I will say this, I would be in favor of invading and eliminating Minnesota. You just want it gone. There's just too much stuff going on in Minnesota. Yeah, just keep me in the coming up. The protests to the daycares, to the Tim walk, just get Minnesota out of here. You're done with that. I have no problem getting rid of Minnesota. And I like the city of Minneapolis. I like performing now. Yeah. I'm okay if it goes. So what we lose some fucking legs. Yeah. I don't care. So then we'll do a little bit less ice skating. Yeah. You've had enough for the twin city. I've had enough of Minnesota. Yeah. Okay. I have a nut. Give me the twin towers back. Right. Take the twin cities. Yeah. Just Indiana Pacers joined the Canadian League. Yeah. I don't care at all. The Minnesota, there's just too much problems there. And we don't need. I don't know what it serves. Yeah. So what, you know, lose some legs, lose some trees. Yeah, yeah. I know there's probably people on the podcast who are from Minnesota, so you can stay. Yeah. If you can show me an active Patreon membership, then you can stay. Yes. But other than that, you're out of here in Minnesota. Yeah. Minnesota has really been just a powder keg. Minnesota and Oregon can go. It can go big. Portland. And Oregon can stay. But the city of Portland and the whole state of Minnesota, you can go. And while we're at it, can we just, can we throw Seattle into that as well? Throw it out there. I've like I've been saying for six months, and I think I'll be proven right eventually at, you know, time will tell. Go back to the original 13 colonies. Just go back to the original one three. We have to, and Florida, because I like, yeah, I mean, there's just gotta be a way to let everyone know that you need some level of patriotism. Yes. You have to like and defend the place that you live. You can't, you know, we've gotten to this point. Of the paradox tolerance and sort of like this, you know, where free speech goes all the way. It's great to critique constantly. But also like, can you just appreciate the fact that you can go to 7-11? Yeah. Can you appreciate the fact that you got an iPhone? Come on. I'm not saying don't be a commie. You can be a commie. But can you at least have a sense of humor about the fact that you're as commie with an iPhone? Yeah. Can you just have a sense of humor about that? Yeah. You're a commie with an iPhone. If you're the chick, the commie chick that Mom Dommie elected to be the student advocate, can you just have a little bit of a sense of humor that your mom lives in a 1.6 million dollar house in Nashville? Yeah. Can you have a sense of humor? Just laugh about it, huh? Yeah. Can you just laugh about the fact that you call property ownership white supremacy and then look in the mirror and see that you're as white as snow? Yeah. Can you have some fun with that in your own head? Cause I'll giggle at least. Yeah, Eric Adams. Eric Adams response. He's serious response. He went, "Yo, fuck that." Yeah. That was his response former mayor of New York. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm going to say that, it would be funny for me to go to a black family's house who owns their house and say that to them with a straight face. - Yeah. - Can you just have fun with the idea of you go to a black family and telling them that their house is a form of white supremacist? - Yeah. - Just have fun, just have a giggle about it. Have a giggle figure. - I don't mind what you say, I don't mind what you believe, but what you have, we've lost a sense of humor about it. - Now here's the thing, Mom Donnie, Mayor Zoran, Mom Donnie is the new mayor of New York City. So I know if you're not living in New York City, this may mean nothing to you, but just I'm telling you, we have a new mayor here. Things are getting wild in our city, but I do miss our old mayor's name was Eric Adams. He was a black guy. He was actually a guest on history hyenas during the first rike, and I found something, mayor Eric Adams, top 10 things that he said, these are all real things that he said, and it makes me miss this guy. He's only been gone three weeks and I miss him. So he said, "All my haters become my waiters "when I sit down at the table of success." I love it. - So I'll put that in the beamcast. All my haters become my waiters when I sit down at the table of success. - That's a good one. - Then he goes deep down. I think I must be a little bit Dominican. (laughing) - That's a good one. - Then he said, "I am Gandhi like. "I think like Gandhi, I act like Gandhi. "I want to be like Gandhi." - Yeah. - Then he said, "When the mayor has swagger, "the city has swagger." - That's truth. - Eight wrong. - Then he goes, "I am the mayor. "This is the city of night life. "I must test a product." (laughing) This guy is the best. Then he goes, "I don't know what to do without my incense, "my candles, my bubble baths, "and my roses." (laughing) Then he said, "We can talk about erectile dysfunction, "but not literal stimulation, something's wrong, "something is just wrong." And that's it back. Then he goes, "If he wants to participate in a circus, "that's fine. "I'm just not buying the tickets." - Well said. - That's a good one. - Then he goes, "Lions don't lose sleep "over the opinions of the sheep." - That's true. - That's not his, yeah. - But then he's been around. - Then he said, "I wake up in the morning sometimes "and I look at myself and give myself the finger." (laughing) Here's some work. - 10 out of 10. - 10 out of 10. He said, "I'm the Biden of Brooklyn. "When you raise your pants, you raise your character. "Pick those pants up, young man." - Yeah. - If you don't educate, you will incarcerate. That's a good one. - Yeah. - These are good. I like this guy. - I am the pilot and you are all passengers. Pray for me to land the plane 'cause there's no parachute in this plane and we're all going down together. At least he has some self-awareness that he's not a white pilot. - That's what it is. And Yani being a Greek, this is why Yani moved out of his hometown of Brooklyn 'cause Eric Adam said Brooklyn is the ishton bowl of America. So Yani said, "I'm outta here." He often substituted the world cities like Athens, Tel Aviv and Mexico on pest control. Everyone that knows me knows one thing. - I hate rats. - Yeah. 'Cause yeah. - Isn't this better than someone than a mayor talking about property as collectivism or whatever he's saying? Don't you, I want this guy. Just like Obama, dude. Obama, I don't know what the hell he was doing and not doing. - Money on swagger, life was a little easier back then. - Yeah, I love being a comedian and being able to watch the circus as George Carlin said. - You're just not gonna buy the tickets. - I don't buy the tickets. I watch the circus. I think it's the duty of a comedian to not buy the ticket and watch the circus. - Yeah. - And for me, mom, Dami so far has been fun to watch because he's clearly like a rookie. - Yeah. - Right? So it's like, you remember when Kobe got into the, he could end up becoming Kobe, right? But you remember Kobe got into league? He was just 18. He was shooting airballs. - Yeah. - He was just in over his head. - Yeah. - And it's just, to me, it just seems like he's got an administration full of college kids. - Yeah. - And they're coming in and he's got this chick who's tweeting about why property be a white supremacy and then the next thing you know, the whole media goes, who's this chick? They go look through all her stuff and they go to her house and she starts crying. - Yeah. - Did you see her cry? - Yeah. - Yeah, her cry. And then people on Twitter going, "Uh, what are you doing? Why are you harassing?" It's like, they're not, that's the media showing up talking to a government official. This is New York City, babe. If you can't keep cool like Eli Manning, then you don't belong here. - Yeah. - This is a place where there's a lot of media scrutiny, sweetheart. - Now welcome to the party. - I want the fans to start a counter to see what, who does want more. Do I flex my pecs more? Or does Yannis run his hand through his hair more? - Yeah, what do we do? - Yannis runs his hand through his hair every five seconds and then it makes me flex my pecs because I'm a little subconscious 'cause I didn't put any hair powder in it. So it's good with, you look good today. - Yeah. - You're a handsome, can you got better in a tight shirt? - Yeah, I'm think I'm having a little bit of a glow up. You are having a bit of a glow up and here's what I want and I want the fans to get behind us on this. What we're gonna start to do is with Sergio Shicone. Yannis and I are gonna start training a couple of times a week and we'll film it. We want you to follow the weight loss journey with us. Yannis and I both want to be down 15 pounds 'cause we're both roughly 15 pounds past cute. We want to be 15 pounds lighter by April 15th, tax day. That, right? - Sure. - 15 pounds down by April 15th. It's January 12th, so hold on. - Yeah. - It's January 12th or something right now. - Sure, that's what I want. - Should we do that? I'd love to get down 15 pounds. Let's do 15 pounds by April 15th. - That is a thing. - We're all in on the challenge and you go and how do we involve Nick? What should Nick be? Nick, I don't know what his body type is. Do you exercise on all Nick? - I go for walks sometimes I do squats but I haven't done a long time, so I got a stretch and I got to get back into it. - Do you know what I think? - How old do you Nick, by the way? - 43. - Okay. - Do you know what I think will help a lot with your anxiety? - Exercise. - Yeah, I go for walks all the time. - I think we need a little bit more than the walking. - Help me, what do I do? - I think we need to go to the gym once you grab some dumbbells, you can start with the Suzan Summer ones. - Yeah. - Get the pink ones, start with some curls. And then we want to get you in, I wish Sergio would take you, but Sergio does not give discounts. - Yeah, Sergio doesn't give discounts. - And Sergio has also been in the last couple of weeks in a bad mood where you're gonna get punched in the face. - Yeah. - It's like, you know what I'm saying? Both pay Sergio a lot of money to get hurt. - Yeah. - That's what we pay for. - That's what we do. - Yeah. - That's good. Maybe, what if I wear my Chihuahua shirt? Will he give me a discount? - Yeah. - Then he might, he might get, actually that would be the way to approach him. - Yeah. - That would be the way to approach him. Be like, hey man, can we do this outside of the capitalist? - Let's be honest, we're four men in here that most likely would go to a gym and we would do things in the woman's part of the gym. - Yeah. - We would do better in a Lucille Roberts than we would in a New York sports club, right? If we're being honest, the four of us do women, even when you and I are boxing, he's giving us the woman's workout. - He's totally giving us the woman's workout. - No, we're warming up, we're breathing, we're doing deep squats, a body weight, everything is body weight, right? It's the, he, Sergio Taylor's his workouts for us. That's what he does with his female clients. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. 'Cause then when you see him hit the bag, go to his Instagram and see him hit the bag when he's by himself. And then when I spar with him, I go, oh, he's, that's what he could do to me. - Sure. - But he's giving me a woman version of it. - And I know there's times where Sergio thinks 'cause he just goes right into that woman's workout 'cause they haven't been times where he's slipped and his brain has started training a woman, 'cause I remember one time I was doing a lunge and he said, "You got a nice ass, Ma." (laughing) So, and then he snapped at some. He's like, "My bad, my baby." He was like, "Yeah." He was like, "I'm just saying you flexible." So sometimes he forgets that, you know, I'm not a girl. - Yeah, 'cause tell me, tell me. - You're gonna tell you, 'cause. - Tell me about Robert E. Lee. Robert E. Lee? - Yeah. - Robert E. Lee, the head of the Confederate Army, the Confederate States of America who wound up losing the Civil War, Robert E. Lee. You still got a lot of statues, though. - You still got a lot of statues. Robert E. Lee actually, he was just fighting to defend Virginia. Yes, it was on the wrong side of history, but if we're talking about who was the best general, then the answer is Robert E. Lee. - Right. - And actually, you know what's very interesting is the way that Robert E. Lee would fight and told the Confederate Army to fight. They had a lot of, 'cause the Confederate Army was way outnumbered, but they were better soldiers. And they had a lot of guerrilla warfare. They were charged with the cavalry. They wouldn't form columns, guerrilla attack, retreat. He learned that from his father, General Lightfoot Lee, who perfected that technique in the Revolutionary War to repel the British. That's why General George Washington liked Robert E. Lee's father so much. So it's very ironic to me that all the things Robert E. Lee learned were from a father who was there to get America's independence. And then he had a son who was trying to take it away. - Right, it's very interesting. - Yeah, they were just going, "Hey, we don't want to be a part of this union. We want to separate and we want our state to be, we want all these states to unify and make another country." And, you know, with hindsight, you can just say, - What about with Heinz ketchup? - With Heinz ketchup and hindsight. - Yeah. - I think, you strip away all the details, you strip away all the historical analysis. - Strip me like a racist peanut buttercup. - See, take the wrap off. - Take the wrap off, be like a racist peanut buttercup. - 'Cause I know some goods in there. - Yeah, 'cause you know some's good in there. Have you ever said that to anybody? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - And you strip away all that. - Yeah. - And you strip that all the way with hindsight. I think we can clearly say, if you look at England and how they got rid of slavery, they didn't need to fight. They just all realized, all right, this is bad. - Yeah. - The kids here loved slavery so much. - Yeah. - I mean, American kids just didn't want to part with it. - Right. - That they were willing to go to war. They were like, you can take anything, but you're not taking my slaves. - Slaves, yeah. - Didn't want to let it go without a fight. - Now, some people will argue that's because of our geography, because in the south, as we have the perfect conditions to grow cotton, and they felt they needed the slaves to pick the cotton. Now, obviously that's a little, - Bullshit? But that is what people say is to that is the reason why. Now, here's the thing, here's what I'll say about Robert E. Lee. He was always, sometimes people are born, they're destined to do what they're supposed to do because really one of the ways that the Civil War kind of started like one of the major first things that started propelling us was in the 1850s, a man by the name of John Brown. Okay, so John Brown, remember we went to visit him in Harper's Ferry West Virginia. We're gonna do an episode on him on Patreon, eventually, he kid at a leaky roof. Kid at a leaky roof, we're starting a new segment at patreon.com/historahinas called leaky roof where we go throughout history and we show you people who are genuinely clinically insane. Some of them did good things, some of the bad things, but the thing they have in common is they were absolutely clinically insane, and their roof was blown clean off. So John Brown went, in Harper's Ferry West Virginia, is where the United States had a big military depot, a lot of weapons were there, whatever. And John Brown, who was a resident of Kansas, there's a thing and we'll get into it maybe on the Patreon, a thing called bleed in Kansas, where Kansas gets admitted into the United States as a state. And President Lincoln says, listen, I'm gonna let you decide, you have slaves or don't have slaves, it's up to you. And so there was basically a Civil War within Kansas. John Brown was a big part of it. So John Brown is very anti-slavery. He wants slavery abolished. White guy, you know, by the time he gets to Harper's Ferry West Virginia in the late 1850s, he's kind of, he's gone crazy over it, right? And so he basically takes control, he kills some US soldiers that were guarding this weapons depot in Harper's Ferry West Virginia, and then he pulls himself up inside of it. And who is the, at the time, a completely unknown man, I believe it was in his 30s maybe, completely unknown, just happen, stands happen to be the general in charge of guarding that depot was Robert E. Lee. So Robert E. Lee, before the Civil War years, before the Civil War goes and gets John Brown out of there, they have to hang him eventually, because he's, you know, it's treason. I mean, he basically went against the United States tried to take their weapons, so he got to die for that. And it was Robert E, and it was in that moment, Robert E. Lee said he knew he could see in John Brown's eyes, he was like, this country is gonna go to war. And he was in his mind at that time, thinking he's gonna be the general for the union. He was all about preserving the union, but when his home state of Virginia seceded, he felt he had no choice, because to him it was state first, then country, that's how it was back then. - Yeah, Jefferson, Jefferson States, right? - Yeah. - Jefferson States, right? - And because that Jefferson, another guy from Virginia. - Yeah, yeah. - Other guy from Virginia. - Yeah, we're gonna tell you some more fun facts right after this, from Hello Fresh, or whatever. - Whatever the fuck it is. - Yeah. - He actually is quoted as saying, Robert E. Lee, slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. - See? - He wrote that in a letter to his wife. He also said, the blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, so he didn't even want to send them back. - No. - Yes, I'm cheating. - His belief in white supremacy and gradualism was sort of, what is gradualism? Like, hey, let's gradually assimilate them. - Got it. - Sort of like, let the whites figure it out for 100 years. - It's what it is. - Yeah. Like, he was opposed to abolition, not slavery itself. So, meaning that what he didn't think that we should abolish it, but he also didn't think we should have slaves. So, what did he stand for? - Gradually. - He was gradually just let him go slow. - Yeah, like you said in the last episode. - Yeah. - Yeah, just wanna, just let the, listen, guys. We're gonna get there. If you could just give the sky fuck a door. Just for a few minutes, a few years here, we're gonna make everything right. So, I just get some things in order, and then we'll call you guys in one by one. It's kind of what he, it's just the principle. I can't have all of you talking at the same time. It's just, huh? Give us a minute. Okay, we got the suits. We got the cigar pipes. We're gonna figure this out. We've heard you. - Yeah. - But I can't everybody talk at the same time. Just go out there, take a seat, pick a number. You're gonna come in, and we're gonna get you what you want. - Right, right. - You're gonna give you what you want. - Right, right. It's actually, it's the same exact thing that Simone Boliviar believed. - From our last episode, let's check that out on YouTube and patreon.com session. - Literally the same belief. - Same belief. - Yeah, look, we're gonna get there. - Yeah. - Just, let us figure it out. So, Robert E. Lee, he opposes the secession in theory. He doesn't agree with it, but he's kind of saying, if Virginia's going, I'm going. - Yeah. - I don't want, I wish it wasn't this way, baby. - Yeah. - But I gotta go. And Lincoln, as we said, President Abraham Lincoln, offered Lee, Commander of the Union forces, and Lee refused, not right away. He thought about it. He said, "Let me think on this." And he thought about it and he said, "It lies with Virginia, I gotta go with VA." - Right. - And again, all these decisions shaped by his father falling out of favor in the public eye. He was saying, "This is how I'll get back." So, he was all, this guy, because by the way, you think just because it was the 1860s, everybody was about duty and honor, but actually during those times, life, those were old, old, world ways to think. People were thinking more about living longer. They were thinking more about, "Hey, how do we be a little bit more eccentric?" And kind of, you know, they weren't so rigid in their beliefs, but he was just a rare wildcard that he was. He was honor and duty, and that's all that matter, 'cause of his pops. So, Grant, Ulysses S. Grant, who goes on to, you know, lead the union and to victory. He said, you know, Robert E. Lee, this is about, he needed, he needed to win to justify his case. And unfortunately, Robert E. Lee lost big. - Unfortunately, you know, he was, they were, the South was the David against the Goliath. - Yeah, but just didn't have the numbers. - They didn't have the numbers, but do you know that the way that they were able to even keep this war up for four years? Like the very first battle, major battle of Manassus, the Union Army outnumbered the Southern Army like, I don't, a lot, by thousands, but because Robert E. Lee was so brilliant and tactical, that he was able to keep this thing going for four years when it really should have only been over in a few months, because dude, you have to think about just the North and the South even today, how many more people live in the North than the South? It's crazy. I mean, New York City alone has nine million people just in the city. That's like two Southern states. - Yeah, and plus we were just getting immigrants coming over and then just handing them a rifle. - The Irish. - Yeah, yeah, just, just go, just go. We had black regiments. I mean, there was a few black soldiers for the Confederacy, but we had, you know, the Massachusetts 54th, the famous Massachusetts black kids were fighting. They just, they couldn't, the Civil War was about two different economies, one that was antiquated and their way of life felt threatened. They wanted to hold onto it. But baby gorgeous machines were here. This was the first AI takeover. Yes, they were going, the North was going like, we don't need human labor like that anymore. Baby gorgeous, 'cause listen now, honey bubbles. We got machines to do that. We got the cotton ginny. - Yeah. - You don't need to have slaves doing that. - We have a little thing called the Gatling gun. - The Gatling gun. - The Gatling gun, the true atrocity of the Civil War is crazy 'cause they had the automatic weapons. The Gatling gun, AK, the Devil's Breaths, was basically a rapid fire machine gun. And that's where you would kill, that's where all, you know, so many soldiers was just getting laid out. The way people were dying, at a way that like, you know, never had been seen in history ever before. More Americans died in the Civil War than all the other wars America has fought combined. - Yeah, 700 now. - And 'cause everybody died, it was an American. So that's one thing, but also it was just a lot of people. I mean, Gettysburg was, I mean, you and I went there and then you peed on the Confederate side of the battlefield. - I did do what I had to do. - It's just what you did. You actually committed a federal crime? Or I would say no, you're peeing on the side of the enemy. - I was doing it for patriotism. - Yeah. - Yeah, I was doing it for patriotism. It was also one of the most vicious and brutal wars because we didn't have anesthesia, but we had artillery. So people were getting their legs blown off and they just had to bite on a stick and they just poured whiskey on it. Most of the people died, a lot of people don't know. Most of the soldiers died just from infection. - Infection. - Infection. - They died of that, they died of dysentery, they died of disease, killed a lot of people. And you know what's a quick look? 'Cause I just was in West Virginia this weekend. You know what's a quick little fun fact about West Virginia? - It's super fucking cute and listen if I was Robert E. Lee and I had to choose to, 'cause I am the number one draft pick. I am Cooper Flagg. I am the best general. - Yeah. - I understand looking back why he chose Virginia, 'cause Virginia's just fucking super cute. - It's soups. - Magutes, cuties, and Western Winchester? - I would know I was in Harper's Ferry. - Hey, yeah. - I would do the Harper's Ferry, like a Harper's, (laughing) - So, so Harper's Ferry, that's where, you know, I went there this weekend and I brought Jasmine and my children who are Puerto Rican and a man in West Virginia. I swear to God, came up to a set of diner and he comes up and he goes, "Can I ask you a question?" He goes, "Is your beautiful wife Navajo?" (laughing) - 5.40. - Yeah, as she was, she probably got upset about that, right? - Yeah, well, she got upset because as a joke, and I got in trouble for this, 'cause I set it for the kids, I said, "No, she's just a hoe." (laughing) - 5.14. - But it was a joke, like I was obviously kidding. - Yeah. - And he laughed and walked away, and I laughed, thinking I was gonna be funny, and they were all just looking at me, like you just called her a hoe. (laughing) - Yeah. - I made a boobo. - Yeah, you bet you made a good joke. I made a good joke and I've been paying for it. - Yeah. - For the last couple of days. - Yeah. - But, so, we all make sacrifices. - Make sacrifices, but it's okay, it was just joking, love you, but it was just in a moment, you know, but fun fact I learned about West Virginia, is that was a part of Virginia until the Civil War, it was it only became a state in 1863 in the middle of the Civil War, because much, you know how President Trump has basically said Nicholas Maduro was not the rightful leader of Venezuela, therefore I don't need Congress's approval, I can just go in and take them, because you know, he goes around that loophole, he basically found a loophole where he said, he was, he's not the people's choice, so therefore I don't reckon, recognize him as a, you know, leader of a government. So I can take it. President Lincoln did the same kind of thing with Virginia. When Virginia seceded from the union, they basically said we are where Confederate states, right? But there was a section of Virginia, the whole state of Virginia, the western half, that they formed their own government. And they were like, we don't agree with what Virginia is doing. Like we wanna stay with the union. We don't have, you know, there was much more rural out there. They didn't really have as many slaves or as much agriculture going on. And they were just like, we would rather stay with the union. So President Lincoln says, you know what? Actually, you're the real Virginia because you didn't secede. I don't know what this Virginia that robbery leaves. Well, you don't know who they are. You're a Virginia. So now I don't need anybody else's approval. I'm gonna make you a state. So you are now the sanctioned state of West Virginia. So West, so these people started the Civil War for the South, but then ended it in the North. If you lived in the western half of Virginia, it's very, very interesting how, why it became state. Yeah, West Virginia is basically the South Korea of Virginia. It's what it is. South Korea, Virginia, and the rest of Virginia was the North Korea. Yeah, and robbery was King Jung-ung, but his name was Robert E. Rhee. Robert E. Rhee, yeah. It's what it is. And I can tell you that all the Asian people in West Virginia were near me because I was doing a show at a casino. Yeah. And it doesn't matter what state you're in, even if your state has no Asian people, they are Asians will find a casino. Yes. Now the situation gets interesting when you think about the soldiers that fought for the Confederacy because none of them had slaves. No. So it's like, I don't know. They were poor white, they were poor whites. I mean, you know how many, you know how few Americans actually could afford slaves? Almost nobody. It just lets you know that a lot of times these wars are just, they're just rich people defending their financial interests, sending these kids to die and using some sort of propaganda or nationalism or ignorance to brainwash them and motivate them to do it. And that usually is fear. Yeah. So I think the big propaganda at the time was, you know, Lincoln is a tyrant, federal, overreach, our way of life. They're coming after sweet tea. They're coming after ribs. They're coming after our ham hocks. They're coming after our sister fucking. Yeah. They don't want us to do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah, because otherwise, why would these kids be funny? It's just, you have to do propaganda. Like when we found the Japanese, someone just figured out we gotta call, we gotta shorten that name and call them. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta come up with something called, there's just some, we have to do to get these kids who have no skin in the game to go kill for us. Yeah. Really what we're there for in Korea is for Coca-Cola. Yeah. We want to be able to sell Coca-Cola. Yeah. And it's like, the kids don't know about, the kids don't care about this. So how do we motivate them? We go, oh, these guys, yeah. Latter 14. These guys are half, there's aliens. Yeah. Their face is just great. Shit. They're different. They're different. But they're not. But so they cause a leap, all of that. Bleep it all, put it on the Patreon. So they cause, they cause a little bit of an issue. And yeah, yeah, 'cause the thing is, the economy was going away anyway. Right. It's like it was gonna end. It was like the South was just holding on. Like it was just these big slave owners, these big tobacco plantations and stuff that were just still making money. They were basically the oil industry of their day and they didn't want to let go. Like renewables are inevitable. We're gonna run out of oil inevitably. So, but the oil companies are just holding on, holding 'cause they're still making money. So these rich plantation owners just convinced all these young poor whites to go fight for them for a cause that was inevitable anyway. It didn't have to go this way. It didn't have to. And you know what's ironic? Robert E. Lee, because of his fucking pride and because Virginia was super cute. I think you can blame Virginia for being super cute for the reason why so many people died. 'Cause if Robert E. Lee, like you aptly put, wasn't such a military genius, this war would have been over quick. A lot of boys wouldn't have died. Brothers wouldn't have had to fight brothers. It would have been a quick campaign. It would have been over. But Robert E. Lee was so good, he fought hard. And because he became the top guy, it probably inspired a lot of people to fight under him. But this was going away anyway, 'cause because the cotton gin he was here and we just didn't need the blacks to make the cotton in it. - It's what it is. So you're basically saying if Virginia, it's your fault. - It stopped dressing like a slut. - Exactly, yeah, she was so cute. 'Cause that's the reason why Robert E. Lee joined because of how cute fucking super cute Virginia was. - Now here's the thing with Robert E. Lee, so they lose, okay, eventually they lose, they got a surrender at Appomattox Courthouse. You know, Grant, the Ulysses S. Grant, the leader of the Union, he allows Confederate soldiers, the kind of the dignity and defeat, which I think is the right move because these people, this is not a foreign nation. They're gonna assimilate back into society. So they're gonna need something to do. So Lee kind of turns, you know, he goes away with at least they have their honor and then Lee urges, he wants the reconciliation period. He says, "Let's get back together." Oops, messed up. 'Cause I mean, theoretically cause if the union, if Lincoln and those guys, I know Lincoln got killed, but if Andrew Johnson and who takes over for Lincoln after he gets killed, if they were difficult, they could have easily hung Robert E. Lee. They could have said, "You're a traitor." We could kill all of you. - All of that rests on Lincoln's brilliance as a leader, right? - That's what you do. When you defeat the enemy, you lift them up. And that's when you have success because when you humiliate them, you get things like the Nazi party in Germany. You gotta go in there. You see, you're a punished Germany too hard. You look at the places that we punish and it just builds resentment, but you look at the places where we rebuilt like Japan and Germany, and then you make them allies. So because John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln, we got Andrew Johnson and Andrew Johnson wanted to punish the South, and that's why we probably still have a lot of the problems we have today because Lincoln wanted to extend an arm, raise them up, reconstruct, "Hey, you're a friend, it's over. "Good fight," but Johnson came in and really punished a shit out of the South. - I gotta learn more about Andrew Johnson. - And that's really what got us in trouble. So thanks John Wilkes Booth. John Wilkes Booth was one of these original fucking trolls. Just one of the attention he was an actor, he was a failed hit at the Golden Globe. - Exactly. - Fuck Trump. - Shut up. You know, that's why you come to the hyenas. We know the fucking psychology cause, because this kid was a fucking failed actor who wanted the attention he did it at a feet or he jumped on the stage, broke his leg like an asshole. - Yeah, he said so be it to all tyrants, they must go. He gave a performance, you know, it was about him. John Wilkes Booth made it about him because he wanted the recognition. He was the original fucking troll, the original fucking serial killer. These guys want attention. - Ugh. - So gross. - If it wasn't, if Lincoln was not killed, I'm telling you this country would be in a better place right now, but it's not. - But unfortunately he died. He got shot in the head. We will do more episode. We'll do some stuff on Andrew Johnson. John Wilkes Booth could be a good leaky roof, candidate for the Patreon. And then-- - 'Cause actors are just crazy narcissists. - Here's the thing with acting is, you know, even though I'm saying-- - Sorry, sorry Nick. - Yes, even though I have a succumbent development of I am saying that, yeah, acting is, there's a degree of narcissism there. There's a degree of being in the echo chamber 'cause at the end of the day, it's like, you know, you're just like, you know, I got to work with last week Steve Sharipa, but you know Bobby Bockelon, the sopranos, and Steve is such a great guy 'cause Steve said what I've always felt. He just, and Steve's an actor. He was like, you know, acting is just, you know, like, he was like, I'm just, I'm memorizing, and giving a little bit of life to things somebody else wrote. He was like, the real, he said, the real heroes are the writers. Like, I'm just, I'm taking what they did. It's not that fucking hard, guy. He also kind likes Steve Sharipa. He also kind of plays himself. - Always, yeah. - Well, he played himself for the thing that I did. - Yeah, yeah, he just, I mean, when you go, when you hire Steve Sharipa, you're not saying, okay, now we want you to be a Civil War era Virginia Confederate soldier, and they're going, but that would be very fun if you did that. - That would be fun if you said, hey guys, what do we do it here? - Yeah. - Yeah. - No, but Steve, but Steve, what's going on? - What's going on? - Steve and I were talking, and it's like, you know, it, there's truth to that, where it's like, yes, you respect it all, but it's like anytime I see an actor on his or her high horse, I'm like, guy, you're making believe you're somebody else. I mean, that's what my daughter, my daughter's play dress up every day after school. It's the same thing you're fucking do it. - Yeah, so which is fine, but you just don't talk to me, like you are the end all be all. - Yeah, it's just their performative. - Everything's performative. - Because they don't really have a real self. That's why they're so good at performing as other people. And so that's why when you hear them get up there and say their thing, you're like, this is a monologue. You're an actor. - Right. - That's why I'm a bad actor, 'cause I'm real. - Yeah, it's like, well also, - And that's why Nick didn't succeed in acting, 'cause you're a real one son. - Yeah, I mean, but at the end of the day, let's be honest, there are some good actors like Daniel DeLuas, Meryl Streep, Kate Blanchett, the list goes on. - Sure. - But if it's a job that ice teak and hawk. - Yeah, Ethan hawk. But if it's a job that ice teak and fall into, or if a 10-year-old can get nominated for a Golden Globe, then it's just not something, it's not a skill like being a surgeon. - It's not a skill like being a podcaster. This is weird stuff. - Chatchy PT, that's a skill. - Yeah, but actually this is a skill 'cause we're doing nothing, but people are entertained. You ever hear two actors doing podcasts? - Not good. - Yes, it's not good. - It's not gonna be good. We know how to be entertaining. - All right guys, Robert E. Lee, brilliant tactician, deeply flawed moral character. - Surprisingly not a Chinese guy. How did Robert E. Lee, do we know how he died? Did he die in obscurity? We don't know about Robert E. Lee's death. - Yeah, he kind of died a kind of a sad man. - Right. - He also I think pretty much wore a woman's size six shoe. The kid was a squeak. - The kid was a squeak. The kid was about the size of the skin tag on my eye. He was a tiny little squeak and I love looking at the pictures of him because I always looked at his feet. And he has tiny feet. - Yeah, kid had a major stroke. - Yeah. - He had a kid stroke down. So probably 'cause the cholesterol's high, the blood pressure was high. - He was also very depressed and he was very sad about the loss, but also about kind of the guilt on his conscience for all the boys that died. And he kind of, it was fought because like we said, he kind of knew slavery was an immoral thing. - He knew it was bad. - So he was like, you know, I think it was his pride that made him fight and I think when you lose, I think there was that sort of awareness in him that like this was all for nothing and all these boys are really my responsibility. - Now his last words were strike the tent, which meant break camp often interpreted symbolically as acceptance of death. So a lot of these guys who were generals, they're just like, they always have like last words that are really cool like this, you know what I mean? - How about yeah, because Stonewall Jackson had a nice one. He was eyeing under the tree and he was like half conscious. - Andrew Stonewall Jackson is gonna be good after you. - Yeah, Stonewall Jackson and his last words were, oh my God, Bill Hader and Ali Wong broke up. - That's what he said. - Can the news force, can the news force that down our throat to distract us? Sometimes I read the news and I go, nobody asked for this story and people don't care. I mean, it's not a story, a couple broke up. - Yeah. - Why am I seeing this? - Because people consume it and it's stupid. Can you give us his last words? 'Cause it were fucking cool. - Stonewall Jackson, Thomas Jackson. You know Stonewall Jackson lived in Bayridge Brooklyn for a little while? - He did? - Did you know that? - Did he go to ammonia bakery? - Yeah. - Do you know there's the church right there by the water underneath the lighthouse on our bridge? Remember, we saw it? - Yes. - Yeah, he was the pastor there for a little while. - Yeah. - Right. - And Robert Lee was there. - Yeah. - George Washington actually was in Brooklyn for a little while. - Yeah. - Yeah, and now there's a lot of people who look like their civil war soldiers walking around. - Yeah, well that's why I like to play that little game called Hipster or History. - Yeah, so as he was dying, his words famously were, "Let us cross the river and rest under the shade of the tree." 'Cause he was seeing the light. - He saw the river, he saw the light. - Yeah, I mean, 'cause what are your last words gonna be? - My last words are gonna be the same. Let me see those feet. - Yeah, let me see this, my last word to get back. Please don't give jazz with my past words. All right, everybody, that was Robert Lee. Go to patreon.com/historyhihinas to hear more, see more, got a wild episode over there. And as always, we read the names, the newest members of the Patreon. - His last words are gonna be cut by credit cards. - Yeah, cut them in half. (laughing) - Yeah. - Or you're just gonna say, "I wanna do over." - Do over. - Yeah. - 'Cause you're gonna get that big gold do over in the sky. - Gosh, yeah, dude, you're gonna be rewarded. - Do you think, you know, I'll know I'm in heaven if as soon as I get past those gates, there's just cookies and puss. - Guys, yes. - Yeah, because your Muslim heaven would just be black and white cookies and just infinite, infinite girls. - Yeah, it's just what it is. - I heaven's gonna be infinite, pizza and infinite. - Yeah. - I don't wanna get in trouble again. - Why did my wife start listening to fucking, fucking show? - Yeah, that was a very funny text to get. Why are you listening to this? - Because if you're in heaven, it's just gonna be feet all over your face, just toes up your nose and that's, yeah. I'm gonna look like that Greek priest in Western. - Yeah. - You got caught with the girl's feet on his face. - The funniest thing ever. - Yeah, the best pictures ever. - Yeah, all right. - So as always, we go to patreon.com/history and hyenas. That's the way to join. You get a part of the matriarchy. You get all the extra bonus content. You get the episodes early. No bleeps, no ads. It's the way to go. Only $5 a month. You know, it's a little bit of money. You can do it. And we have just the most fun out there. And we read the newest members of the matriarchy here. And then we give them an award at the end. So without further ado, I wanna welcome the newest members of the matriarchy. And I just wanna also say I see a lot of people on Patreon complaining that their names haven't been read yet. You have to give it time. You could join in the not hearing name read for three, four months 'cause we're so, we get so many new members every week that this is the only way. So just stay calm, okay? If you haven't heard your name in like a year, please write it and we'll do an honorary read and we'll make sure, 'cause sometimes, you know, things happen. - Yeah, yeah. - Just be patient, okay? So starting off, Yani's eyes, Michael Strahan's teeth, plus Chrissy's tits. - Equals what, that's the thing. - Yeah, so this is unfinished. - Missing a punchline. Stephanie Dramada's gentrified grease ball Gumar. - I like it. - That's a throwback to the lady Gaga episode. - Kicks Nara Hots, okay? Inwards forever. - Okay, you got one. - Yes, I love it, 'cause you're a smart kid, but they really kick 'em right past ya. - What does that mean? - Read it again. - Kicks Nara Hots? - No, the other one. - Inwards forever? - Yeah. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's what it is, what it is. - 'Cause you're just a backup goalie. - It's just a backup goalie. - Yeah, like your Rangers goalie, the other day gave up 10 goals, that's me. - That's you, yeah. - Just get 'em by ya. - Yeah. - Jack, then we got Tim Walts' Hong Kong honey pot. - Drexler, Drexler. - Then we got CBK, chucking Frisbee since Pekipsy. - A little bit of a walk, then a little bit of a walk, then a one that's dark. - Yeah. - Love our Jewish brothers and sisters. Then we got someone who says they're on ding patrol. - It's another walk, didn't we? - Bad 14, it's kind of our fault. - It's what it is, yeah. - P-Money 69, asking three lady boys to crack me open and fill me up like ice cream and call it AIDS cream. (laughing) - Bad 14. - Drexler, Drexler. - E-Money, Tyler Deshital. She has to be spreading her salami on the interweb. Missy Bullets, Tom Auger. - I saw Mom Donnie kissing Sandy Claus. - Ways on she aim. - That's a Drexler. - Drexler, but it's okay. - Okay, it's a good one. James, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Melted six, hey Dino, I made it on the HH podcast and it only cost me five dollars, fuck you. - Hey Dino, I like that. - Yeah, hey Dino. - I like that. - A street in Mumbai, aka Shultz's Toilets Toilet. Drexler, okay. - Come on. - D loves Pepe, yes, true, that's just a fact, Andrea. Did he turn Chrissy into Sissy? - Okay. - Sydney Sweeney's, Teeny Weenie Hugo Boss, all white bikini. - That'd be nice. - That would be nice. - Captain Jack Abramoff's Somali daycare. - Okay. - Not a ding on paper, but sun bath too much. Okay, Peter, one, knuckle deep in her shame cave. Coin flip, call it, I won your prison wallet. Prison wallet, I think is when you stuff something up your ass. - Right. - Okay. - All right. - Okay. - Fumariano Rivera, we've had that one. - Yeah. - Bentha Dick come in her snatch. - Okay. - Cogs have a Benedict Cumberbatch. - Good one, good one. The mench with the stench, rabbi, fumely. (laughs) - Okay. Drexler, bug catching two riders at a time down the Mateo HIV lane. - We should be. - We should be. - Yeah. - I'm gonna put that on the list. - All right. - That is inventive. - Okay. - Put a gas nozzle in my ass and fill me up regular. (laughs) - Put 'em on the list. - Back seat. - Yeah. - Just get hot. - Yeah, that's like a baseball back-to-back. - Yeah. - It's cold, but then two of us go back-to-back. - Ariana Grande's Nutrition Coach. - I mean, it's getting bigger now. (laughs) - Kanye's cousin, Ham Candles, and Cock Alchemy. - Okay. - All inoscopy is much cheaper when you push back. (laughs) - Another one on the list. I mean, it's just what it is. You just never know. - Forest Rooney. Soy sauce monkey, A.K.A. Eastern Hemi Steve Buscemi. - That's a good one. It's a good Rob's key. - Arnesto Pada. - Oh, that got me good. - Tim Dillon Backshot, A.K.A. Brown vs. Horde of Caucasians. Pupo Lupo, Punk Vomit, Andrew Mama. Took some Mollie, and I'm your captain now. - Okay. - Liam Harrington, straight to the back of my throat. - That's a chicken finger. - Trevor Pimental. I'm a $3 Bill Frisbee, friends call me juicy fruit. - Ooh. - Like J.E.W., yeah, yeah, we're gonna direct slurp. We're gonna walk into it a little bit, but it's more of a direct slurp. - Not bad. - D.D.Zell, W.T., Matt Conlon. Potato monkey squeak with a long skinny piece. Call me Mick Dagger. - Put 'em on the list. - Yeah, Mick Dagger. - Wow. - Yeah. - Cove and Sarmine, Danny. A dourag is my glue rag. - It comes in his glue rag. - Yeah, we're gonna check your finger. - Check your good chicken finger. - Ben Jagger, Thomas Moser, Japanese pirates at Perhaba. (laughs) - Way song she ain't. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So what it is? - Pink eye, schmink eye. Let me nibble that stink wrinkle. Drexler Jackson Mitchell, Kellen Henderson, Jersey, Ari Shafir, six million overcooked chicken fingers. Oh boy. Yeah. Butch Cassidy on the crumbum kid, Charlie C.A. Can't come unless my uncle wears a screen mask. Make had that. Yeah. Somewhere I've heard that one. Make no mistake. I can fix AOC with my freedom glow. Derek the Honduran. That's Monica Lee Roy coming in your chimney, call me Santa. It's good. All right. You're going to Drexler. I'm also going to Drexler the freedom glow. I like freedom glow. Freedom glues. Funny. Jim Carrey ate my ass. So I call him dumb and Dahmer. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. That's a good one. I'm going to Drexler it. Drexler. Yeah. Chrissy didn't learn it. He was. Okay. He sung she ain't Tommy. Cocked to misprime transgender men in disguise. Lux Chrissy's dog. How old's Kussy Fox it? What it is? Drexler. Can we do a can we do a check? What do you mean? A Josephine check in? Yeah. How's it going? She's been in dog camp for the past week and a half. Yeah. Why is that? Because I couldn't handle it. So I needed a break. So we're getting her back in two weeks. How much you sell it out for dogs? Oh, it's just what it is. About 4K. So it's just what it is. We need to go to patreon.com/historainus because I just you know what I mean? I have a little thing called bird and fatigue. I got too many things on my right. So it started. She started to act to camp. She started to act like a subbeer coming. German. When they get on my nerves, it's sending you to camp. A lot of 14. So you so some some ways teaching her. Someone's just teaching her a real dog person trying to teach her. And then I said, just bring her back and we'll see if she handles it because I can't deal with this. Right. Um, yeah. Yeah. That was I mean, that was. Yeah. I mean, if you had that, you're not making any money because you know, that was the over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did I say that right? Yeah. What's the advantage? The one that you don't win a lot of money from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if it was on Calishe, people would go, it's going to get sent dog camp at some point. Right. Yeah. If a fuzzy muzzle was a bear then. Okay. Ways on. She on Zores. Venezuela is in freed just under new management. Yeah. Yeah. He's makes a decent point for now. Daddy like thought my recon was a muzzle because it's brown, recon and fuzzy. Uh, the Gaza strip AKA Frisbe Fortnite, um, Dakota Miller, Jacob DeMarco, Owen, Gancy Kyle Klein, my dad voted for Mamdani. Now I call him my mommy. Put him on the list. Put him on the list. Yes, Nick. Ehrimoff's on that one. If my bug was any bigger, it would be a bigger trigger. Okay. Oh, John Carlo Kusamano. Um, Aras monkey. Yes, monkey. Arrested by ice for smuggling and extra chromosome. Okay. I think both of my dads are gay. Um, William, B secret squirrel. Both of my, I think both of my dads are gays going on the list. Yeah. It's a chicken finger goes. It's one of those things where you go. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Uh, B secret squirrel. Uh, Tita Sergio's frostbitten grape juice fountain. Okay. Okay. Bruce Shealey, a Ken Childcare and C adventures LLC, um, Gary LaPorty, Braden Gayer, Julia Wise, um, then we got, I think we got enough. You think so? Yeah. I think we got enough. Yeah. All right. I just start to catch up. You don't want to do it. We got so many, got so much juice from all right. All right. We would be unfair. Okay. Here we go. All right. So here's, see, this is the thing. What happens is the list starts out slow and then we literally had four out of five. Yeah. And there's, there's like eight to choose from. Yeah. So here we go. Uh, bug catching two riders at a time down the Mateo HIV lane. Got to stick around for now. Okay. Put a gas nozzle in my ass and fill me up regular. It's got to stick around for now. Ariana Grande's nutrition coach got to stick around. Wow. Colonoscopy is much cheaper when you push back. We've got to stick around. It's tough. Potato monkey squeak with the long skinny piece. Call me Mick dagger. Bless you. What do you guys think? I mean, it wasn't it. And if it's not in the media, it's got to surround them. We got to take it off during it. Mick daggers great. Great though. Japanese pirates at Pearl Harbor. Funny, simple though. Simple. What do you think? Drexler. Yeah. Yeah. Pearl Harbor is funny though. Yeah. Um, want to get it out. Yeah. It's just what the kid just got a new variant. Um, my dad voted for mom Donnie. We're going to keep that around. It's got to keep that around. Uh, I think both of my dads are gay. We're going to Drex to that. Okay. But it's a goodie. All right. So the list is be out. Let me read out. We have five contenders. Let me read them all out. Bug catching two riders at a time down the Mateo HIV lane. Ariana Grande's nutrition coach. Colonoscopy is much cheaper when you push back or my dad voted for mom Donnie. Okay. We're going to Drexler. Um, the gas regular. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's just the way that the list is some better ones. But you know, you know, you could have been a winner on another day. That's what Drexler means. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. So then we got bug catching two riders at a time down the Mateo HIV lane. Okay. Because that one's a little inside. You got to know who Mateo lane is. Yeah. And he's a friend of the program. Better the program. Although it's very funny. Yeah. It would be nice to have Mateo on calling a gay guy's asshole. The HIV lane instead of the HOV lane is. Yeah. Yeah. What would be really funny. I'd love to have Mateo. And if we could do it next Monday, it would be really funny to have Mateo on and talk about the Chicago Bears offense. That would be great. He's from Chicago. And have him talk football with that. Yeah. And he's just like what? If I hear it talk carbonara. Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. He's like, he's like, all I want to talk about is Caleb Williams can fucking get it. Yeah. That's really all about it. Yeah. That would be a 10. Yeah. Or have Joey Comaster come on and talk sports. Yeah. Joey Comass has got new hair plugs and he looks great. Looks great. That one is so good. We're going to keep it for now. Keep it now. Okay. Colin asked me as much cheaper when you push back. We're keeping that for the funny factor. And then my dad voted for Mamdani. Now I call him my mom. We're keeping that one for the funny fact. So the final three are my dad voted for Mamdani. Colin asked me is much cheaper when you push back or Ariana Grande's nutrition coach. Tough one. You know why? Because they're all three of them are in categories that we've all had one similar. You talk about Mamdani a lot. We did have talked about Ariana Grande, the Fumariana Grande's and we do talk about gay stuff with Colin asked me all that. So this is difficult because usually one of them is something more original and we go with that. But these are three hard ones. These are actually three ones that I wish had their own list because they all are winners in their own right or all winners. So for me, this is really tough. So what I'll say is what I think my my opinion is that Mamdani jokes now are becoming a little bit like Asian driver jokes. They can be done, but they have to be really original and hard. I calling him my mommy really, really actually I think is funny. Yeah. And relatively original. Yeah. Donnie mommy. Yeah. Um, so I would vote for that one. Mm-hmm. But then I could also, but colonoscopies are much cheaper when you push back. It's also original. For me, the least one is Ariana Grande's nutrition coach. Okay. So we're going to drag through that. Are you going to agree with that? That's the least one. Okay. So it's between colonoscopies much cheaper when you push back or my dad voted for mom Donnie. Yeah. And we know who Nick's going to vote for. Yeah. And you know, it's just, it's it's kind of cruel to say that because Ariana Grande is just not well. She actually looks like she's got out of a concentration camp. Yeah. She actually, it's not like it's it's really like she's lost her all attractive. It's on. He just she looks like she's having a mental break. Her five years ago was one of the most beautiful and I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I mean, she looked like a child, but yeah, she's a pretty child. That's why I said it. Yeah. And she really looks like a child. No, I'm kidding. She's a little child. Is it? Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know what to do with this. What do you like colonoscopy or mom Donnie mommy? I, I, I think colonoscopy is funnier because it's sillier, but I, I think mom Donnie called him Miami. The whole picture of that is very funny. Like the guy had a father who he respected. He thought he was a man. And now he walks around and says, Hey, mom. Yeah. As the way he voted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's very funny. The winner. Yeah. Why don't we get? Well, I think we should get some insight for let's get some insight from the stick and have to do. Yeah. Let's go. What do we got? Yeah. I'm going with Miami. I think that's a clean, funny joke. It's been the whole time. Yep. Yeah. Stick. I'm a Miami. Mommy. Yeah. That's it. That's it. So mom Donnie, one, my dad, you were going to go with them. Just curious. I was going to go with mom Donnie. Wow. unanimous. Yeah. First ball of whole family. My dad voted for mom Donnie. You are the winner. Go to history. Hyenas is back.com history and is pod.com. So you name up and likes you with the ppw, the pseudo penis of the week. Thanks for listening. Everything's going to continue at patreon.com such history. Hyenas. I'll just say this. When you play this contest, you may not be a winner in life, but for one moment, you hold the trophy. Yeah. You hold the trophy, my friend. So hold your head up, pry. Uh-huh. And you know, whatever job you go to, if they yell at you today, you say, fuck you. I am the - P-P-W. - Yeah.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Robert E. Lee, a prominent Civil War general, is often misidentified as Chinese due to the similarity in names, highlighting how naming conventions can lead to confusion.
  2. Lee’s loyalty to Virginia over the Union stemmed from a deep-rooted belief in state loyalty, influenced by his father’s Revolutionary War legacy and personal sense of honor.
  3. Lee opposed slavery in principle, believing it was a moral evil, and advocated for gradual assimilation rather than immediate abolition.
  4. Despite fighting for the Confederacy, Lee was widely regarded as the best general in American history, using brilliant tactical strategies to prolong the war and challenge Union numerical superiority.
  5. The Civil War was marked by devastating casualties, widespread disease, and brutal warfare, including the use of early machine guns like the Gatling gun, resulting in more American deaths than all other U.S. wars combined.
  6. Historical irony exists in Lee’s choices
  7. The hosts use humor and satire to explore broader themes of identity, mental health, and societal division, including critiques of current political and cultural tensions.
  8. The episode emphasizes that while modern civil conflict seems unlikely due to geographic unity, historical patterns show that infighting and ideological divides have always existed in the U.S.

Summary:

The episode explores the complex legacy of Robert E. Lee, a Civil War general whose actions and beliefs remain deeply debated. Despite being a Confederate leader, Lee was a principled and tactically brilliant commander who championed honor, state loyalty, and gradual change in the treatment of slavery—contrasting with the violent realities of the war.

His decision to fight for Virginia, rather than the Union, was shaped by personal and familial history, including his father’s Revolutionary War service and the emotional trauma of a father’s financial downfall. The hosts highlight how Lee’s leadership, though rooted in loyalty to his home state, was a product of a time when honor and duty outweighed political ideology. The discussion extends beyond historical facts to include modern parallels, such as political polarization, cultural misunderstandings (like the confusion of "Robert E.

Lee" with a Chinese name), and the ongoing struggle between tradition and progress. Humor is used throughout to underscore the absurdity of current societal tensions, from the belief that Minnesota should be eliminated to the satire of political figures and media scrutiny. The episode concludes by reflecting on the enduring relevance of historical figures in today’s world, emphasizing how personal identity, mental health, and community values shape both individual choices and national narratives.

It also promotes a more balanced view of history, urging listeners to appreciate the complexity behind figures like Lee rather than reducing them to simplistic moral labels.

FAQs

Yes, Robert E. Lee sounds Chinese-sounding due to the name structure, but he was not Chinese. This name similarity often leads to confusion or jokes, highlighting how names can influence perception.

Lee believed in state loyalty over national unity. He felt his home state of Virginia had the right to secede, and he prioritized defending Virginia's interests, which shaped his decision to join the Confederacy.

Lee expressed moral opposition to slavery as an institution, writing that it was a 'moral and political evil.' However, he supported gradual emancipation and did not advocate for abolition, showing a complex and nuanced stance.

Lee favored guerrilla tactics and used surprise attacks, inspired by his father’s Revolutionary War strategies. His tactical brilliance kept the Confederacy in the war longer than expected, despite being outnumbered.

Yes, his father, Henry 'Lightfoot' Lee, was a Revolutionary War general and a close ally of George Washington. This legacy influenced Robert E. Lee’s sense of honor and duty.

John Brown attempted to seize weapons in Harper's Ferry, Virginia, in 1859, which was a major flashpoint. Robert E. Lee was involved in handling the situation, and this event highlighted the deepening conflict over slavery.

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