Robbie Hoffman reflects on her journey from a self-raised, attention-seeking teen to a self-aware comedian who values authenticity and personal boundaries. She shares how her early life—marked by class clown antics and a pivot from accounting to comedy—shaped her confidence and comedic maturity. A key turning point was a deliberate six-month trial to prove her comedic talent, grounded in self-doubt and external validation. She emphasizes the importance of emotional boundaries, criticizing men’s social behaviors and societal norms, such as public displays of discomfort or gendered taboos. Through anecdotes on personal experiences—like refusing bare feet on planes or criticizing tea-bag etiquette—she illustrates a clear sense of self and discomfort with overstepping. She also offers a sharp, satirical take on gender dynamics, arguing that men's "darkness" is more visible and socially condemned than women’s, while women tend to be more nuanced and case-by-case in their behaviors. Her advice on relationships stresses the need for a balanced mix of "hotness" and "intelligence" to create a healthy partnership, warning that imbalances—like two hot or two smart people—can lead to emotional disconnection. Ultimately, Hoffman blends personal narrative with social commentary, presenting herself as both a grounded observer and an empathetic, critical voice in modern culture.
(snoring) (upbeat music) - What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy daddy daddy daddy daddy daddy daddy. - Robbie Hoffman, welcome to Caller Daddy. - Thanks for having me. - I am so happy you're here. - Thrill. - I mean, you are an Emmy nominated actress and comedian. In my opinion, you're one of the funniest people in the industry right now. - Thank you, I appreciate that. - How do you feel when people read your bio and like accolades to you? Do you like it? - I feel great when I hear about myself. I'm extremely proud of myself. And I think it's probably something that comes from the self-raising of it all. I don't know, I just feel like, I think when your parents aren't that involved in the raising of you and you depend on yourself a lot for the co, you know, the raising, I kind of look at myself and I go, my God, I'm really proud of you, well done. Like it was, you know, so first of all, not many people are reading my bio back to me, but if they did and it's in a positive light, I say thank you. - Keep it coming. - Like what am I gonna, it's amazing. - I feel like you can kind of tell a lot about a person by how they react when people sing them happy birthday. - All right. - What are you doing? What are you doing when people are like, here we go. - Happy birthday, you know, I get a lot of attention. - Okay. - Nature of what I do, I'm an entertainer, I do stand-up comedy, I act and I write and, I'm in the public and my relationship gets attention. So I do like in like things like that, I'm happy to give other people the attention, especially like weddings since like, Gab and I eloped with a very small wedding, but in my family, I like partaking in their weddings and really celebrating them because it's like, they have more quiet, they are not as accolated. Not for any reason, it's just not what they do. For instance, my sister's a social worker, she doesn't, you know, she's not like getting articles. And so when she has a wedding, I'm like thrilled to throw that on. So the happy birthday, I feel like I get enough, that's why our wedding being small, it's like we're gonna have the whole family fly out, we get a ton of praise all the time. And so where we can pull back, we do. If you had to say though, what is the most attention-hor thing you've ever done? - I mean, I was like class clown, I think I was always, I didn't know how to, I didn't know how to, you know, steer or finesse that energy, you know, I kind of wanted whatever attention, I got in trouble a lot. You know, I got kicked out of class and things like that. And then now that I've harnessed it, like I do have attention, but it's in a very sophisticated, harnessed way now, versus it was free for all until I figured it all out. - Yeah, free for all, horish, like it. - Like okay, like horror? Yeah, I gave tons of hand jobs. Is that what you're getting to, color daddy? Like a ninth grade, like what do you mean horror? Okay, yeah, I gave, what, I gave, they were a couple of tugs, it wasn't much. I didn't know about Loub, they were very dry, and the customers seemed happy, I never had a problem. - Hand jobs are just never a good experience for anywhere. - I mean, I've given six blow jobs. - Six? - I know, it's a lot, it's very generous. - Six? - I've given six. - I like that number for you. - Yeah, yeah, two guys, six. - Two guys. - Yeah, like one kind of four, one, two. One, I really tried again, but I said, you know what, I'm really not in the mood. I said, I don't think so. He had hair on the bottom of his shaft. I just, I couldn't get it together. Well, I never even went all the way down the shaft, but I just, I, and he was like, I'll get rid of it, and I said just forget, just forget it. It was brutal. - Yeah, I can imagine being down there in that moment, you're just like contemplating your whole fucking life. - Yeah, is that the kind of horror you're asking about? - Oddly no. I'm back to the, again, I'm getting, I'm going through the close jobs, I'm going through. - Class clown is a good answer. - Okay, you're, you're hitting it hard. So being a stand-up comedian, at some point you're obviously gonna interact with your audience, right? - Yeah. - What are some unhinged things that the crowd has ever said to you, done to you? - This is gonna sound insane. - What? - And I know that people have said this before. I don't experience any of what you're about to ask. The heckling or the this, my audience is in it to win it with me. I can't even tell you the vibe and the energy, like they, maybe I don't come off approachable if they say something to me. I don't think they think it would go well, but I don't invite that sort of back and forth. And my audience just comes to church. So we're together, we are in it together. And I just don't experience that sort of thing. And I know that sounds like whatever, whatever, but it's just literally, I can't believe the energy of my audience. - I mean, that's incredible. - Like people, like I remember when it wasn't like my show, like when I used to do just whatever shows around the city, I remember I did a show in Canada where some guy, on a bachelor party, I took his dick out or something, but there were things like that that happened in general audiences, but I'm telling you, when they come for me, it's like the sermon has begun, the phones are out, everybody is just, they've taken a deep breath and we're just together for an hour and a half, literally. - Take us home. - Literally, it feels that way. And I feel for people who deal with this sort of thing, but it's just never been, and thank, I keep it that way. By the way, keep it that way. - No, keep it that way for sure, but yeah, when you just said that earlier, do you think there's also an intimidation thing? - Yeah, there's no way they'd win that. - Oh. - Right, so I think it's like, if somebody, I mean, if somebody sneezes just in my eye, I say, "Bless you," you know, we said, like there's nothing I'm not gonna, you know, can we all say "Bless you" ever? I said, "Bless you." You know, like me, so it's like, you know, I don't know, I'm not challenging anyone, you know, at the same time. - But if someone challenged you, I'll give them the attention they owe this person. He's attention, let's all, I'm sorry, you're sad, what happened, and let's work through it together. Is there anything else you'd like to say, you know, okay. - Is that what you're like in an argument? - Explain, like if someone is arguing with you, do you take the temperature down? - No. - Make the, okay, okay, okay, okay. - No, okay, I don't know, I have never taken the temperature down, unfortunately. It's another thing that I don't really relate to, but arguing is an interesting question to me, because I, I mean, to me, it's a complaint is to enjoy, to argue is to speak occasionally, depending what culture I'm in, and the culture's I've grown up in. - Like you're going in at the dinner table? - Yeah, but so is everyone else I know there. Keep in mind, I'm, you know, I have nine siblings who are a lot like me. (laughs) I, you know, I'm friends with similar comedians and this sort of thing, so we're all like that. Now, if I went to a Normie dinner, you know, I'm actually really pulled back at something like that. I might still be the craziest person there, but for me, that is like, you don't even know. If I was just with comics or just with my, forget it. We're all going in, he said, but she said, okay? So we're gonna see, you know. - So we like an argument, I like this. - Yeah, I'd love an argument. - Yeah, bring it on. - Oh, I'd love an argument. - Before you got into comedy. - Yeah, you were pursuing a career as an accountant. - Correct. - You know, that's a pretty big pivot. Comedian accountant, what happened there? - What happened is comedy, really. I really wouldn't wish this happening to anyone. But, yeah, I grew up again more. You know, my violin comes out. My violin is only getting bigger. I think being poor is just so criminal and it's so bad that I'm not over it. Like, people want me to be over it. I'm not over missing the bus 15 minute, 15 years ago. Like, I'm not over, people are like, get over, I'm not over anything. You know what I mean? I'm not over spectrum going from 39.99 a month to 79.99 a month. Like, and then you want me to get over my chat. Like, there's things I'm just not over, but not everybody in my family went to school. So when I got to go to school, I was like, what's the least amount of school for the most payoff? And they were like, you can get a job this summer and accounting or finance with an internship. And that's exactly what I did. I said, say no more. Where do I sign up? And I, and I, and you know, and that's what I did. I didn't, and then when I started to have money every two weeks, direct deposit, I considered miraculous and amazing. That's when I started really like to sleep for the first time and to really like. I know people think I'm anxious now. This is, I'm actually quite calm. This is, you know, I used to be a far more anxious. - So see me back then as an accountant. - Okay, then from there. - Yeah. - You go to McDonald's. Well, back to McDonald's, teenage years. - Yeah, I always had jobs during school, during all this. These are simultaneous. - How would you describe yourself as an employee?
Herendus. But joyful. Like we refused to work the back and flip the burgers. I only wanted to work the till, the cash, but I was Alex. I was hitting them orders in. It was crazy. And so, you know, well, we had a good time. Yeah. And like it's, you know, I really, I was eating McDonald's every day when I worked there and it was amazing. Whatever you ever employed the month, like, no, we did do well. No, no, no, no, I was actually really good during lunch rush and stuff like that. Um, maybe because of how I grew up, I'm used to our rush. So we, I was very good. And, uh, we did get pins. Yeah. I got a pin. The only reason I earned that pin actually is we randomly had a uniform spot check. Like our manager, our floor manager decided to do this check. Maybe the owner was coming in and I can't remember. And so everybody had to lift their pants. And, um, if you were wearing black socks, which I happened to be wearing for no, I know I wasn't even, I don't even know, but me and my friend were wearing black socks. And you're not allowed to wear black socks. No, you had to be wearing black socks. Oh, you had to be. So we got the pin for hygiene or whatever it was. Why do black socks mean at the time? It was part of a uniform McDonald's famously changes their uniforms all the time. Um, what we had, like Jean on Friday, you could wear jeans, but do you think that it would be white socks you can see what's going on? Black hides. I have no clue. We never even knew of this rule. It's just maybe he had extra pins like to this day. And there was no, the pin didn't come with it. I don't remember the pin. Other than we got the pin, we were thrilled. And we were killing it. It worked. There's nothing to say. Wow. Okay. So you were never like the personality hire. You did the job. Both. I was definitely a personality hire too. Yeah. Can you give me a little intel? Is there anything you've seen a little too close up there? Like maybe don't get that. Well, you know, I was in McDonald's. They had like fun. Like they were going through a sub phase. Oh, they had their own identity crisis. Let people like they were like trying to do subs at one point. Thank God those are gone. Um, I hear the filet official is good. Um, I don't go near it, which is a lesbian is, is shocking. Um, but people who like it, that is their go to that's their go to. Yeah. That is their go to. Okay. All right. I've never tried it. Maybe I'll try it. Maybe we'll try it. I don't know. Is it true that in the early days of your career, you got your script for comedy in front of network executives by impersonating careers, claiming that you have a delivery to make? Yes, it was only one. You know, I wrote a script. Um, when I discovered standup and this relates to your earlier question, I was like, and then I thought I could be good at it. And I was. Now most people who see standup, I think they can be good at it. They can't. I happen to be. It's, it's like nine or 10 times this is not going to be the case for you if you're watching this and I apologize. But for me, it was and it was like devastating because it's like now I have to pursue this thing. I had a moral dilemma. Like I have the opportunity to make to have a good job. Like to make more than, you know, just as an accountant, I was making 30, uh, 2,500 a year Canadian in my first year at 22 years old, which was, nobody was really, really even salaried, right? Uh, already making more than obviously my mother or whatever. And then I'm going to pursue the arts. Like the thing it just, it was very difficult to think, but I knew I was good at it. And I, because I was winning, like I gave it six months, I said, if six months, nothing is doing phenomenal. KPMG gave me a laptop for keeps. We are killing it. Like they couldn't be nicer to me. Um, I wasn't the best auditor, but I was invited on the, on the audits that were, you know, out of state and stuff because just the travel. I'm good on a plane. Let's, you know, let's play on the movie. Um, but yeah, it was a real moral, moral dilemma, uh, moral dilemma for me. Like, and, and so that's why I gave myself that six months. Like if six months, nothing's doing, okay, you have a great job. You get paid every two weeks. This is wonderful. Um, and during that six months, I was doing my stuff and competing. I, I did, uh, open my competitions. I was submitting to festivals and it was all, I was getting approved. So I, there were benchmarks. There were ways to know that you were good at it. And trust me, if I wasn't good at it, I would have stopped. I do not want to be traipsing around this scene, like many that we see and there's no awareness. And if you don't have self awareness, take it from others after a certain point, you know, there are comics who get up there and they say, you know, I've been bombing for six years and they, they talk about it on podcast and they're bombing and, but if you're bombing to that extent, by the way, it happens. No, okay, but to that extent, maybe, maybe it isn't for you. No worries. You got to go. No worries. But I could, it could never be me. You're too self aware. No. And if I'm not, I don't even trust that. I thought I was good. But I'm not going by me. I'm then going to say, okay, I'm going to enter that competition. I'm going to enter this. I'm going to do that is everybody on my page, right? Because I know that I come with a certain amount of delusion. I think I'm great for sure, but I could be wrong. I've been wrong. I'm million times. I'm wrong about so many things. So this was no different. I wasn't going to trust that I'm 100% right on this. I felt a ping in my stomach that I probably have to do this. I'm probably good at it. But there was still a hope that I wasn't good at it. And I wouldn't have to do it. What do you think you are like percentage wise delusion to self aware? Probably both split down the middle. Because delusion is free delusion and dreams. Like when people ask me what I dream, like, I don't put a limit on my dreams. It's like, it's free. It's like taking soap from the hotel. It's like, just take it. Who cares? You know, you've already paid for it. Like, dreams is like, I'm not charged to think of living on the beach. So just if you want to live on the beach, dream about that. That's in the delusion thing. The self aware thing is on the critical thing. It's kind of like just reading about this, the observing ego. My therapist was telling me that and I go to her ad hoc and I don't want to hear it. I dip in and I dip out. And her big thing is that's okay to think that. That's a thought. It's a feeling. You fear. It's not a fact. And the other thing is there's something called your observing ego. Your observing ego looks at your ego and I could be getting this wrong. To the most part, it's right. Let's try it. Okay. Your observing ego is all about skeptic. It's all like, huh, I hear that story that you think, okay, you took a blood test and it's going to come back. You had your annual physical normal, normal, but you've worked this up into being that it's going to come back and you're whatever. Sure. But your observing goes, I'm doubtful. I don't know if I believe that. I don't know if I believe that story. And that's where the self-awareness comes. Self-awareness is almost like your observing ego. It's like, okay, you think you're going, that that that that that that that that let's get some data in. Let's let's look at the let's look at this practically speaking and object as objectively as you can. Do you think you really let your mind wander with the medical? Oh, yeah. My husband, I've had him laying next to you at night and he's like, has a cough and he's like, what if? No, it changes my whole. What if it is cancer, though? No, literally. How did we get from the sinus infection to cancer? But I have to hold him in that space, but also bring him back to reality. Like does Gabby meet you there? Gabby was an ICU nurse by the grace of God as if she couldn't get any better. It's when I first met Gabby when we were first dating like my stomach hurt, like I slept over. I did shows that night. I maybe didn't eat dinner and was going to eat after, but I just crawled into bed with her and I had a tummy. She like literally sprung up to make me something like she was like, oh, there's like these oats that I've given to patients and it's like, like, she's so good with the medical. Like she's unreal with the medical. How soon did you start asking Gabby for medical advice? I mean, I can't even remember to me to breathe is to I don't even, well, you know, I could in pinpoint. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's something I taught. It's like the weather, you know, how I'm feeling. You could be in the coffee line and you could turn this on like, do you think the symptom means? No, I know. It's very scary. It's terrifying. No, your husband should see an ENT. If he, no, if this, no, I do want to say, it seems if you guys have good insurance, I mean, by all means, can we talk about men for a second? Of course. In one of your sets, you said that the makeup of any man is 95% the greatest guy in the world. Oh, yeah. And 5% jail. All right. Can you elaborate on that breakdown? Well, men have a very dark. Some of it is coming to light now. It's amazing how much of men's darkness is continues to come to light. Like it just continues, continues. It's Just like an onion, right?
It's like we all've known, but I guess now men are like, you caught us, but not really, right? Like, there was the Harvey Weinstein thing, we're like, we all knew. Now it's the pedophile thing, and we're like, oh, right. This is like really, fellas. This is not, you've got to get it together. This is just on becoming, like, this is just on well, right? What, you're, is this punch? Yep. Ooh, have a little. It's cool too. Little refresher. Watermelon. Mmm, that's excellent. Thank you. Of course. Yeah, so they started to kind of, we started to be like, huh? Yeah, I don't know what the men are doing anymore. I can barely keep up, right? But 5% is you don't want to know. I guarantee 5% of this man. I don't want to know. Can you imagine if women were doing that shit? It's crazy. We would be in jail. Yeah, I mean, they're putting, they're trying to put women in jail for emails. I mean, this is what's going on. Never mind. Well, you're with the children, and we're sending emails. Every problem in the world, and I know that I love the fellas, you know, and I'm with dudes a lot, and I'm best friends with them. You know, and somebody says, oh, I'm friends with the, oh, I'm friends with the Jewish person, or, you know, I know gay people, and I'm friends with them. I know, and I'm friends with some of them. But every massive problem is them. It really is, it's distilled down to men versus women at the end of the day war. We would not have gone about with war. Thousand years ago, worse a setting up society. I'm not going to be like, you know what, let me bash a bitch into the wall. Like we just don't think like that. I'm like, I'm going to talk to her. Let's talk it through. See how, how long is she staying here? How, okay, okay, no problem. So we won't be like, like, we would discuss, communicate at first. Yeah. So war is just not the way we would have gone about it. We wouldn't have invented, you know, the economy is running on the stock market, which is astrology for men. You know, it's like, it's just not the way we would have gone about money. All of it. It's like, we would have been like, everybody gets a hundred K to start. Is that good? Okay. So let's just all take a hundred. Okay. And we ended four. Let's all go home. If I like, like we would have set up every system, the economy, warfare, politics, it just would have been very different. What do you think about women? What is our makeup of jail to grade? Women are more nuanced. It's hard. It's, to me, women are more case by case. Men, I can apply more of a general. They're, they're more basically made. So I can, you know, they're like a pill like that. Like, like I can, you know, we, we're more women are a lot more complex. Yeah. Okay, let's unpack this further. I'm going to give you a scenario. Yeah. You're going to tell me if it qualifies as great or jail. And we're like, we're bringing this down to like normal life. We're not talking now or after. You have already have to pee. I hope because I'm having my tea. Go. Really? Okay. But are you going to be able to continue as is? Oh, I'll sit right here. Will you run? Do you know where it is? I don't think, hey, everyone in our mission. Um, I actually don't think anyone's ever left to feel to pee. I appreciate the directness. Most people would sit there and just hold it. I don't know because you know what? Tell me. I, I consume a lot of water and tea. I just saw the tea's gone. Okay. You're, you're already hitting me on well. And I won't do this on here and it makes gabs sick. I will squeeze that tea bag again. Oh, hi, it's one of the grossest things that I've done. That is a five percent of the woman. You know what? That was exactly 95 percent normal. And 5 percent, she takes the end at the end of her tea. And it's as gross some might say as pedophilia. She takes the end of the tea bag. Some may say and she squeezes it. Squeeze it into her mouth or squeeze it back in here and I finish the tea. It's like backwash. That's like the last dribblets of like a the tea bag. Don't you fucking dare because it has the most tea in the bag. I think it's the most potent of the flavor of the tea. Put it down. Put it the fuck down. Okay. It's like a nasty now. Yeah, no, it's bad. We can remove it now. Okay, that's your jail. Ready? Game. Yeah. You're gonna tell me if it's great. Okay. Or if it's jail. Okay. They fuck with their socks on. A guy or a girl? Yeah, I think that's fine. I think it's fine too. I remember reading. Are you cool? I mean, I also grew up in Canada. Like is it cold? How's your heat? You like to set the mood? You want me to be? I fucked with all clothes. Like we're both like let's just the least amount that has to be shown is fine. There's a reason there's a fly for some people. I remember reading at one point that if you keep your socks on during sex, you can have a better orgasm. And this was back in the day when my boyfriend was like not getting it done. And so I tried it. And I don't know if it was like a placebo effect, you know. But I kind of convinced myself like maybe we are having more progress. And it's not like I'm running to put the socks on to then have sex. But if they're on, sometimes I just want to take them off. Well, it's also, it's a nice thing. Like maybe you keep your extremities warm. You know, uh, I think on a man I would probably prefer. I don't want to see a man's feet. Such a good point. Yeah. I think a woman can go either way. Like if she wants to be cozy and cute and socks, I'm not mad. But a man, please. So I would say as somebody prefer, uh, I don't, you know, I don't even men who don't wear socks with shoes. Like even if they're in a shoe and there's no sock. I'm upset. I don't want to see a grown man's ankle. That I'm in no mood for. The ankle on a man, it's, it is rare. It's a good one. It doesn't matter unless you're on a boat. That is, you're on a boat, you're at the pool. There's no reason for me to see your ankle. You're at the airport in a flip flat. What do you think about that? Call the police. That's, that, that, that is just, what do you about think about shorts at the airport? I, I'm more fine with shorts, but I don't love them. Would you ever wear shorts at the airport? No. I like to be cozy and I'm cold a lot. What about bare feet on a plane? It's unacceptable. It's horrible. What would you do if you were sitting next to someone with bare feet on a plane? I, I, I would combust. I, I really thank God and I travel so often. I've been near it, but not quite directly next to it. And I'm, see, I'm grateful once again. You know, I'm extremely grateful for the life I have, including somehow dodging something like that. You've been like a few rows away. Yes. Cut the glimpse. Oh yeah. The shiver down the spine. It's just so gross. I, I don't know. It's really gross. It's disgusting. I did sit next to somebody once. This man could only be described as homeless. And I don't know if he was unhoused or not. But I'm describing him that way to give you the idea. And he had one singular tissue, not a hanky not one. And he blows, he blew his nose so aggressively so many times into this, like, and I asked the flight attendant for a mask. This is before COVID before anything. How I even thought to ask for a mask before COVID, I'd never, you know what I mean? I didn't even know, like, hospital. Yeah. And they didn't. And I literally thought I would die. It's like, I thought like that flight, like, I'm done for. When you sit on the plane and you hear the person going like, and it is all the, it's just the coffee, the hacking, you're like, I am sitting in an incubator. Yeah. I do feel I'm a person. No, that is terrible. I do feel that. It's good to know. Okay. They sit on the couch in their outside clothes. That's fine. We're okay. Couch. The bed? No. Less so. But it's fine. Occasionally, it's the comforter on a cover, let is there a little throw at the end? You know, when you throw the throw, how do you feel about the throw though in a hotel? I get rid of it immediately. Get it the fuck away from me. No, my husband has a thing. He's like put out the window. Yeah. And here's the whole thing. I've stated holiday and express not to brag. And I used to, like, sometimes the cover let ease the blanket at those hotels. Like there isn't a blanket under. It's like just sheets or a very thin blanket. Like I've been frozen as can be before I'm like, I'll freeze to death. I don't care. This shit that's on there. Oh, a decorative pillow in a hotel. Terrible. Okay. They have a cat. I have a cat. How many? One. And I don't like other cats just because I have a cat. So it depends the cat. I'm also case by case just like humans. I'm case by case with the animals. I don't need an animal, a dog to run and and and and and pound on me. I'm not in the mood to be assaulted by a dog today. Sometimes you go to somebody's house. I was not in the mood to be jump by a dog. It used to be acceptable if somebody had such a dog to say, could you put it in a room? You can't.
somebody put the dog in the room, but by the way, I'm a little afraid of dogs. I don't want to really be harassed right now. Can you put the dog in the room? Like, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. No, it's not okay for me. I don't want to be. I once had somebody's dog. They were like knowing at my sock. They're like, oh, he just wants your sock. I'm like, I want my sock. Look, I want my sock. So I don't know. So the dog, it depends the dog and it depends the cat. I don't want your cat scratching. My cat doesn't do such a thing. My cat is the gentlest little cat that ever was. I got her already at two years old. And so she was she was fully grown and very gentle and I knew her, but some people get a kitten and it grows up. It's a menace. And I'm I'm locking the door. I'm afraid of the cat. Is your cat have a name? No. No. No. Oh, he said no. I was like, no, her name is no. No. Yeah. Okay. They are allergic to gluten. Yeah. They can't be done. It can't be done. Is it real or they think they are like unless they come like I want to see the outbreak. I want to pick up a roll. We're having rolls tonight. Just a bag of rolls. I don't care if it's the Hawaiian roll, whatever roll. Okay. I don't care if it's a dinner roll. Butter it up. And let's see. Is it hitch? It better look like hitch. It better look like Will Smith and hitch. If it's not Will Smith blowing up in hitch. I don't know. It does feel kind of recent. It's very recent. It's very recent and you know, I don't want to it's just I got to see everybody is suddenly celiac. Yeah, like I don't think people of my parents generation. Like remember we were kids probably everybody was allergic to peanuts. I never hear that anymore because it's not cool anymore. It's not cool anymore. Less and less people are allergic to peanuts. People used to kids used to fucking pass out and eat an epic pen. You were taught you got to stab him. I was ready. I grew up ready to stab a bitch who was freaking out with a peanut. It's such a good point. The epic pen was killer. And they said you stand. I said, I'll believe me. I'll do it. I remember like could I do it? I remember really like you know, and they're like in third because we hit somebody in our class allergic. Take the epic and I said teacher, I will do it. But no one was allergic to gluten in our classes. No. And now I don't see the peanut allergy too much. Yeah. Comment down below if you got a peanut allergy and comment down below if you've gluten allergy they had. And by the way, they're coming for us. And fine, I believe you. I'm also we don't care, but we're also doing curious. We're curious. Is it a gluten in town? You know, when they ask you at a restaurant like, hey, like Gavin, I like to go to sugarfish in order to trust me. Well, she could trust me. But instead of the crab, can we do the sound? And they go, is it allergy or is it a preference? It's like, that's what I want to know with these people. Is it an analogy or a preference? Okay. Their go-to grocery store is air one. I mean, I'm sorry to say this is people are not going to like a Gabby orders from air one more than more than I would like. Now, when Gabby is on a trip, I can't imagine it. Okay. And also, it's a very annoying grocery store to shop in because they don't label any of their aisles. Like, they make you want to go through the aisles. And I'm like, I'm not here to like explore the grocery store. Like, what's in the aisles? Like, I'm looking from so and the only time I go is if Gabby's come back from a trip, I will buy her her treats from from air one. I'll pick up a bag. I'll get her like flowers and I'll get her like, you know, she likes these mush oatmeal and different things that they sell there. So I will get her the stuff that she likes just to make sure that there's a couple things that she really likes. Okay. Someone that has their phone background is a photo of themself. That's terrible. So weird. So very weird. I agree. People who have dabbled with DJing. It's horrible, criminal. DJ, can I add something Alex permission? Of course, permission to elaborate. Of course, photography. Fellas, you got a nice camera. You got a couple. You got a record player. Look, how much is you and how much is the is the thing? Like the camera? Photography, I'm not sure, it's very hard to especially at the amateur level and the DJ at the amateur level. It's very hard to denote what are the tables doing and what are you doing? What are the songs themselves doing? You drop hot in here. We're on. Okay. I don't know if to give you the credit. What did you do? We're back to Nelly. But is it Nelly hot in here? Is it Nelly? Yeah, it's Nelly. It's Nelly. I don't know photography. Was it was it the Lyca or was it you? I don't know. It's such a good point and the photography. I remember being on dating apps and being like, if you was a model or a photographer, it was just a it was a quick it was a quick easy decision. Oh, a model. A model for a man. I mean, there's certain this is where I get in trouble sometimes because I can be a traditional, even though I live a non-traditional life to some extent. I had a task rabbit once come over. I bought, you know, the cheaper the thing that Ikea, the more of your life they take. Right? Like so it's like, yeah, the shelves are really cheap because there's 97 different screws that you're going to spend the next two days doing. Right? So it's like, that's what you pay for. So I would, you know, I'm no stranger to ordering the cheapest possible things moving to a new apartment, not anymore by the grace of God in all of you. Thank you. And so I was just moving to LA, maybe a new apartment and I called a task rabbit. It's maybe six, seven years ago and another lesbian shows, another dig shows up. I go, the girl. No, I need my handyman. I'm excuse me. I would have done it. Now we're both on the floor with this bitch doing it. Send me, I need a guy to come over here. Like, I'm looking for like an old Italian or Mexican dude to come in here and do what the hell he does. You got on the floor with her. Why? Because she was. She was like, Oh, I know. That was my problem. All right. Let's see if we can figure out. It's like, no, the task rabbits got to be a dude. Okay. And the model has got to be a girl. I don't want to. You're a male model. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So men who are so into fashion and know what kind of jeans a woman's wearing. That really just be gay. Like women don't like literally save women's time. Like I hear these stories all the time where I'm like that sounds gay. And I have a theory about gay and again, and I know it's only a theory. You talk to me. Okay. We are hypothesizing still, but I do think that everybody who you think is gay is gay. And then on top of that, there's a million more people you wouldn't even know who are gay who are gay. So if you think a dude's gay, that's all you need. 100% factually gay. Because then on top of that, there's the whole down load of people you don't know who are gay. Yeah. Yeah. A really interesting. Because I feel like I've seen you said something about like everyone has a little gay in them. Right? The fellas. The fellas. Yeah. But there's scared of it. Like girls want a little gay in them. Even if they don't have a little gay in them, they're like, what kind of over him? Like girls on a beach will like be like, let's like post like this. Like, you know, they're not shy of being a little gay. They like have fun with it. They like like flirting or whatever. But fellas are like so afraid of it that if they just were like, you know, like, yeah, we're like terrified. Yeah, they're like terrified of it because they've heard each other doing it. Like the thing is, is they used to bash each other's head in if they actually were. They've scared each other again, goes back to men being the problem. They're also a problem to themselves. Right. Like embrace yourself. Yeah. That's what they bash themselves. Dude on dude violence is massive. When you were a teenager, you said you made sure you earned your stay in your friend group by bringing the tea right and getting your friends some dick. Yeah. What what were you up to? What was your well, you know, I was naturally born. I had a good figure. I'm lowkey pretty. I have a prettiness to me. You know, my brother always asks. He's like, why are you starting to look like Joe Pesci? Like he's like, you know, like my family thinks like, how many things are like, you know, you were, you know, you could be pretty. Like, you know, like they think like, I don't know. Like he thinks like I have an insecurity or whatever. Like I dress so like, you know, you could be wearing like my sister used to like, if we were window shopping, she'd be like, oh, with your figure, I'd wear that dress. And it's like they can't imagine that I choose to dress. Like they think it's like must be something. But in high school, when I wasn't in tune to what I just was like, oh, yeah, like, you know, in high school, we wanted jobs, boyfriends. Like, you know, it was Romeo and Michelle. Let's go. So my friends had, you know, like, let's say my friend's father would take us somewhere like my mom didn't drive. Right? Or like, I never had any money. And maybe my friends would, they got allowance. I want to ask my grandfather to allow us. And he walked me to the fridge. He's like, you want allowance? Oh, what do you think this is all the food in the fridge? And I'm like, copy that. Thank you. But yeah. So I would, I think it's, it's like being, you know,
being blind, and maybe your other senses pick up the slack, I didn't have a lot monetarily to contribute. In the summers, I wasn't the house that had a pool that knew somebody who had a pool, you know, but I could, I could get us to the front of the line if I needed to. I could, you know, like I could get us, get us drinks, right? She's paying the Uber. Why should we be, no girls, I always knew girls don't pay for drinks at bars. I looked good. I put on whatever tight I had to be. I had a good time, and I would just walk up to whatever, you know, that you used to have guys roped off at clubs and stuff. I'd say, what are we drinking, fellas? Before we knew it, we're like five girls were sitting there, we're drinking, you know, the orange juice and the cranberry juice are there, the bottle service. I'm like pouring all of them, and then we would leave those guys. We never put out. We never anything. We just call them fellas back then. No, I would say, hey guys, what are we, you know, like, we were always, and we were always, it's so funny looking back, we were always like amazed. Like, let's say we were like, we were like five, like skinny bitches, like 20 years old, short skirts, heels, the whole bit in the freezing cold, you know, no, not even paying for code checks. So running from running from the car to the club, trying to get in there, please, sir, we're cold. And we can't believe he lets us in. Okay, I mean, well, we're like five 20 year old girls. Like, of course, that's who's getting, and we can't believe we got the freedom to believe these guys gave us their crap. That's so obvious. It's the only reason they got the, the, the, the bottle was for this to happen to them too. It's, is it so terrifying when you look at it and you're like, oh my God, how stupid and easy men are when it's like, it all took was me to wear that chop. Are you fucking kidding me? But they had to spend some money. I do remember thinking. I, well, I do remember because I remember my brothers having to go out and I helped my brothers with their plenty of fish profiles and online dating back then. And one of my brothers was colorblind. So just short, this shirt, my brother was so cute, but they didn't have money. And I always felt like what really sang me because I always had a great date for any amount of what was a movie and when movies became out of four, I said, that is it. If my brother cannot even take a girl to a movie, what are we doing? What chance does he have? What chat? And he's only like 18, like he's trying to work. He's working at FedEx. Like, if he can't take a bitch to a movie, like he's not, I've been out to these clubs. What is he going to do? He stuck. It's horrible because these fellas had to have like that bottle was like fine. I don't know what it was. The bottle services fucking crazy. And they did it. So, you know, there was, they were doing their thing. However, they got their money. Maybe they were flipping cell phones. I don't know what they were doing or coming from it in many cases. The one's not coming from it who got it. I'm not looking at your, your taxes. I don't hear what you don't care. You did what you had to do. And you did what you had to do. And you got, yeah, and I did what I had to do. Okay, you have a theory. Oh, in every relationship, you need one hot person. Oh, yeah. And one smart person. How did this idea come to be? It's just always been the case. I can't tell that ideas. And it's not a hundred percent per the, you need the right ratio. There's a relationship ratio. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about the two sides of the ratio. Okay. For those of you who didn't, you know, math is, you know, the two colon, the colon is the ratio. And you're equating both sides. One side's got to be hot. You need an attraction, something hot is different to people, but also it's, you know, and then there's a smart. Those are the two things for the relationship. That's a scale. So if you're bringing mostly smart, you got to look for mostly hot. If you're bringing 50% smart and 50% hot, you need a 50, 52. What if the balance is off and you have two hot people or two smart people? Look at two hot people. It's a disaster. Hollywood, Jalo and Ben, it doesn't matter how many times they try, they're missing an entire circle. Right? They have too hot. And I'm not saying and they're lovely, but they're missing and it's a too smart. That's two August. That's a hazard on the road. No, and nothing wrong. But that's just what it is. We've seen the couples, but you need something driving the other stuff. You need a good mix of both. But what's more lethal? What's more, like, oh, this is going to go down and flames hot, hot, smart, smart. Down and flames, I think it's hot hot. What happens with two hot people or two smart people, they're just, you're literally just walking around like a ghost. Yeah, happens. By the way, by the way, okay, but at least they can work, you know, but, but what happens is, you know, sometimes, you get, you know, then, then they, you know, they go outside or whatever if the hot doesn't pick up, right? Like, maybe the ego sees a hottie. I mean, she's going to kill me for saying this. Emily? What? Emily? Are you trying to talk to your team? Yeah. They can't talk to you back in here. Basically, it's a general ratio. You want to make sure you have it. Okay. Gabby, you know, and the ratios don't even make sense. Gabby, I think, brings 90% of the hotness. I can feel confident going anywhere with her, whether it's a grocery store, whether it's a carpet, whatever it is, because I'm like, with Gab, nobody's even looking at me. Who cares? Okay. But I think I'm a cutie, so I bring 10%. So we have our 100% hot. And on the smart, people forget Gabby was a nurse. So she's practically a fucking doctor in this country. I see you nurse. So we split the smart 50, 50. We have our circle there. Just fill the circles. So whatever you can get to your fill, do it. You got to do it. Yeah. I think that's a really great point. I do think people need to be a little bit more self-aware. And it also depends what type of time you're in your life, right? And sometimes in college, you're like, I just want a hot guy. I want a hot girl. And you're just going for the hot. And you actually like, I don't want you to be fucking smart, because I don't want to end up with you. I just want to have fun. And you might be smart. Right? That's a lethal. You want to know lethal. Like you or Gab, they're hot and they're smart. Gabby, I always tell us she doesn't have to be hot. That she doesn't have to be the hot or smart for us hot and smart as she is. You don't have to be hot. You don't have to be as smart as you are for as hot as you are. You could have leaned on one. That is the lethal combo. Is that sometimes they're hot like Gab and they're brilliant too. What fucking chance do you have? What chance do you have? But does that mean that they could get with someone that can bring less to the table because they're bringing more? It does. Or does that bill resent it? No, but that means that you, if you want just some guy in college, what do you care? You're carrying a lot of the circles. We're carrying it. Yeah, you have a big contribution to your right? Your fill is there. You need less of it. Maybe you're doing 90% hot like Gab and 90% smart. And you just knew you're looking for 10 on either. What a life. A guy walking around with 20%. That checks out. Most of them are. And that's generous. Yeah. Thank you. You had a live college at once where you gave advice called the Robbie Hoffman Consulting Group. What do you think during COVID? Well, I'll find to you to give people advice. Well, I mean, I have an undergraduate degree from McGill University in accounting. Thank you very much. I think I'm qualified on all areas of relationship, of psychology, of finance, of fashion, due to my credentials right there. What are some of the weirdest calls you ever got? No, we got a lot of calls. You know, this is so boring. We went through people's resumes. I like to spruce up a resume, um, you know, things like that. We really, I don't know. We got tons none. I don't know what weird is. I can't even qualify as something being weird. Like somebody could ask me anything. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's a fair question. What celebrity. What celebrity would you call for advice? A celebrity? Well, they're calling you. And what would it take for you to call in? I wouldn't call us. I want like, you know, the, the, the, the, the neurologist at Cedar Sinai. That's somebody I would call, you know, I don't think it's a celebrity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think a celebrity I'm going to for advice, but to me celebrities are, because my mother always had a reverence for doctors. And we went once a year for a checkup. And I remember at one point, and if we weren't going to school, I don't think we would have had these checkups. So think out for the schools, the school system. But I remember me and my brothers sitting on the, what is that bench called at the doctors? Oh, I know what you mean. What is the, the, the, the, well, you know, you know the paper on it. It's like the, it's like the table, the table, the gurney. It's almost a gurney. Okay. So anyway, we're all on there. We're all on our underwear. You know, I'm maybe like eight, nine, 10, and like, right? We're all a year apart and we're all on our underwear. Me and three of my brothers. Okay. We're freezing. We're sitting there. He's doing the knee thing. We're having fun. Okay. He weighs us all and he's going down. My mother's there, like, you know, nervous. She's brought four of her kids in for this appointment. And he does her checkup and he's going through it and he's like, yeah, your brother's looks really healthy. This one over here. He's looking great. Perfectly, you know, the other one. We'd love if he was finishing his plate. My brother, who was like a a little something crazy.
but just make sure he's finishing everything on his plate. He's in a little lower of a percentile. We'd love to see him just a little meteor next year. Nothing crazy. Me, you know, Riftka Robby, she looks healthy, fine. Okay, okay, he gets finished with all of us and he goes, okay, kids have a great year at school. See you next year. He leaves the room for us, right? My mother's like, get dressed, get dressed! Get dressed, we're like pulling our-- We're like, get in dress, okay? She's pulling my brother's pants. She's like, you're all way enough embarrassing me in front of the doctor because my mother, all she did was cooked through food on the table, right? And he's just a small-- we were all-- he's still small for the sake. He's just a skinny guy, right? And-- but my mother, she was so embarrassed like, it looked upon her that she wasn't feeding her kids because he doesn't-- you know, way enough! He's eight years old. He has no clue what he-- what does he have anything to do with what he weighs at that age? It's like a full form of self-examination for her in that moment. She's like, how they looking. Yeah. But really, it's like a reflection on her. Yeah, she's taking it like-- so then she implemented the peace system or-- You finish to, you know, two more pieces or whatever doing all that. And I'm like, I already had my two more pieces. I'm good. You said two more pieces last time. I am done with pieces for this-- I love that you all went in together. Because she would do as many as she could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Four than four. Yeah, because it was just like an annual checkup. Like, are the kids-- do they have their shots or whatever? They were always kind of a little intimidating. It was sitting there on our underwear. I was like, cold. He's some pedophile, obviously, that he's just-- I was wondering, did I have to go down to my underwear or not thinking about it? That may have been a unique experience. And that may have been my mother being like, everybody get all good, you know? He's the doctor's coming into examine. But she was ready. Like, she didn't waste a doctor's time. And the doctor's like, I didn't need anybody. I would be here to this day. I'd like to get on the phone with a great lawyer or a doctor or a scientist. Haven't one of them on speed dial. A lawyer on speed dial, a doctor on speed dial. There's nothing like it. There's nothing. OK, in one of the episode descriptions, you said, we are now helping those most in need, predominantly non-lesbians. What-- Did I say that? Yeah, that was in one of your-- That was in one of your episode descriptions for your advice. Oh, for advice, yes. Because I-- no, no, no, because what happened was people thought it was only lesbians to call in. And your lesbians were flooding the lines. And it's like, no, like, the fellas need a lot of help here. You see how they're walking around. There are in many wars. They're investing in crypto, so get them on the line. So I think that was a clarification. What is some street people's shit you just like cannot get behind? A lot. OK, a lot of street men claim that going down on a woman is so difficult because it's hard to find the clip. Oh, OK, yeah, like DJ Khaled is gay. Yeah, no, that's what I think. I think if you're bragging about not going down on a woman, it's like, bro, just come out. Like, there's no other way to come out. Like, it's not giving what you think it's giving. That was just bizarre. It's like, just be gay. Like, again, leave women alone. Like, why this whole song and dance? Like, they like gay men. Like, just be gay. Be free-- like, they'd be thrilled for you. Like, don't drag them on this thing. And your weird thing. Yeah, no, I think a man not going down on a woman. Which, by the way, going down on some woman is great. Some others, it's not. I'm sure it's like, hook it up with men. I bet, I bet. You know, thank god I married Gabby is all I can say. Thank god I married Gabby. But, you know, so it finds your girl, you know, but I think bragging about not going-- it's like, OK. Like, I don't know where to go from that. Like, just literally be gay. So weird. Give us your advice, ready? If someone's like, how do I approach someone in the wild? What do I do? It depends on the circumstance. OK, who's approaching? Who? A young woman in her early 20s-- To a man? Is going up to a man? No. Never. Do not do that. You don't need to be doing that. A man in her 30s is going up to a woman in her 30s. Where are they? They're out of a luxury bar. OK, they're out of bar. They're out of place of approach. I don't know. I think just keep it simple. Can I buy you a drink? Listen, I don't want to be to run the bush. Can I get you a drink? I've been looking at you. No worries, either way. OK, have a great evening. She says, no, walk away nice. She says, I'm OK. Thank you. Say, have a terrific evening. I like the no worries, either way. Like, don't put too much pressure. Yeah, hey, was just wondering. It's like, Gabby, when I met her the first time. And I was like, listen, I don't want to be to run the bush, but I got to get your number. Love you. Did she give it to you? Well, her friend, who was a fan of mine, that's how her friend spotted me. And I was like, thank God. I was very new for me for spotting to be happening. She was with Gab. And she said, I'll give you the number. I'll give you the number because she was a fan of mine. And I said, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm waiting from the source, and I'm testing it tonight. Wait, how did you guys meet? We met outside of-- there was like a little event happening at a bar space. OK. Yeah. And I was late to it because I worked nights. And I got there to meet up with a friend. And we were all on our way out. And I got spotted by another lesbian who kind of look like me, like one of the more boyish ones, even more boyish than me. So at this point, I thought, well, let's get out of here. This is really-- this is not the name. I'm like, I'm not gay like that. You know, somebody like that is looking at me. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not that gay, you know? Like, I don't feel gay with Gabby because I'm like, OK, one's like kind of doing the boy weird thing and one's a girl like we kind of have a heteronormative lifestyle. The only gay thing about me is that I'm gay. But other than that, I'm not even gay. But if another lesbian like me, or even butchier than me with the buzz cut and the whole hit on me, I'd be like, what are you fucking gay? That to me is so gay. And it happens. It'd be too much for you. That's too gay. You have a very specific type that you're going for. Yeah, just said, no, it's not even-- Yeah, like, you know, Gab and I make sense to me. So that person was like, and they were like, no, no, no. I love-- they were like, oh, no, I'm not gay like that. They were like, I love your comedy. I'm like, oh, thank God. Thank you so much. I'm happy it's relating to-- you know, but then I was like, OK, never mind you. Who are you with? And it was Gabby. And, you know, one of these things doesn't belong. You know, kind of a dive. You know, lesbian events or not. Let's just say we're not gay men. You know, the event space isn't-- isn't-- you know, the flowers weren't picked up that day. And all the stuff that gay men maybe do. But we could use more at our places. But Gab was there. And I was like, well, who's this? And they were like, oh, yeah, that's Gabby. The bachelor's-- I was like, the bachelor's gay. But I don't know what the bachelor's doing. Maybe they are gay now. And some of them-- you know, I didn't hurt. One was gay. I mean, he tricked all these women. Again, just be gay. Even though people would argue that Gab did that. But bisexuality and women is a lot more-- like, they're more open with it. I just think it's not as shameful. Men have, like, shamed each other into, like, not even being able to be the 5% gay, which is a minimum, maybe for them. But yeah, so I just-- I wasn't sure. It was the bachelor's gay. I've missed out on so long of the bat, you know? And-- and they were like, oh, no, no, no. You know, she's just exploring. And I'm like, what is she? Door of the Explorer? I was like, 28 years old exploring. I said, I don't think so, you know? And I got right to it. I got right to it. I was like, OK, well, do you-- I forget what I asked her, but then a second question or something asked her, is like, do you come from money? And she was like, and I was like, say, no more. I knew she didn't, you know, because people come from money, nothing wrong, but I can't date them. They say we were comfortable or something, right? Wait, why couldn't you date someone with money? To me, it's like dating outside of the faith. Like, I don't-- you know, for me, religion isn't the thing that-- it's like the day to day. Like, people who grew up with money versus people who didn't-- it's an entire different-- It is, it's day in and day out. It's every small thing. You know, I joke about it, but grows through-- you know, grows through shopping changes. Everything changes. If I'm not in the mood, whether I have the money or not, just spend $9.99 on raspberries from an era one. I'm not in the mood. I don't care if the money is there. I cannot. And she moves-- we understand that language. We're like, that is criminal. We keep it moving. We keep it moving, right? With somebody who grew up differently than that, those are too many. We're not speaking the same language. Gab and I speak the same language. And that's-- I want somebody who's doing well now by the grace of God. And we both get it. We both have our own-- we don't want to spend that. We don't want to. We don't want to. So I asked her that, and she said, no, you know, military-- and I said, military, for sure no money. That's wonderful. We don't receive, you know? And her father is-- her family is amazing. And thank you for your service for her entire family. But military family. And I just love that. I love the grit of how she grew up and being a nurse. And I just-- there was so many things that lined up, you know? We spoke the same language. Like, on paper, we don't look. People are like, what an odd couple. But it's like, the compatibility is through the roof. Did even though you were first told, like, oh, she's just exploring, you were right now just like, oh my god, no, not interested. Then he started talking to her.
or did you kind of know immediately? - What do you mean they're not interested? - Like you said, like, oh, when the person told you, like, oh, she's exploring. You're like, no, what does she do or the explorer? Like, no, no, no, no way. Like, I'm not interested in that. - No, I didn't say I'm not interested. I said, she already knows. - Oh, okay, okay. - She's made it to the dyke bar or the dyke event. - This is not do or the explorer on an assignment. She's not Anderson Cooper in the war zone reporting back. No, no, no, no, she, this is, yeah. - I see. - She was a little reaching your late 20s when you're 30. I think, no, you're 16 and you're exploring, Gahad. But do not come to me, you know. - You knew she was ready for certain age and tell me you were exploring. - So you knew if you got in there, you're like, no, no, no, she's ready. - Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, she just, she had 25 boyfriends, you know, so that didn't, you know, so she's here, you know, she did her last ditch hurrah and I got the final rose, it's unbelievable. - How did you and Gabby kind of navigate those early days in your relationship with like the fame of the bachelor and people looking at you guys, like, how did that go? - I honestly, and again, I hate saying this, it could not have gone better. I really am living one of the greatest lives I've heard about and it happens to be mine and I'm like thrilled with it. Like I really thought the worst case scenario, but my observing ego was like, maybe I'll work out some, I'm like, no, this is gonna go, like I told her not to come out. I said, this is not gonna be good for bachelor nation. They don't want you to be gay. The fellows are gonna go crazy, right? And then I don't need this mob at bachelor nation has embraced me, I love you. Everyone is just tremendous to me and to Gab. So it went really well, but I told her, I thought she doesn't have to come out. People were starting to see us. I don't love living in secret, but I also was fine to do it because I'm like, oh, she's a lot more public and her dating life is specifically public. I'm public with my work, but nobody's really, you know? So it was a new sensitivity or another, you know. And so I told her not to come out 'cause I said, they're gonna blame me. They're gonna look at us and say, who's fault is this? So obviously, they're gonna blame me. And then they're gonna find out, like, you know, Jewish, it's like we don't need, like, forget it. It's all gonna come down to me. I was in no mood. I said, this is a miracle that we even met and that we get to enjoy, but actually it went amazing. And people have been, again, it's like, I hate to say it, but people have been so good to us. Who said I love you first? Me, of course. Did she say it back right away or no? Yeah. But then she stopped saying it for a minute. So here's what happened. What'd you do? This is the gayest thing about me 'cause I have dated before, but I've been slow. I never really lived with anyone. I took five years to, like, maybe, you know, with Gab, I was like 13 days in, like, sat her down. And I'm like, I just got to, like, I gotta be up front. I am falling in love with you. 'Cause she was like, what is this? And I'm like, this is love. Like, what are we? She's like, what is this? And I'm like, it's love. It's what it is. And I need, so that's what's going on. And we need to confront that, you know? And so I asked her to be my girlfriend and then, you know, it was a very elementary, very sweet, very cute, very lesbian, which, yeah. But, you know what? It's never too late to be lesbian for the first time I was acting as fast as they'd say we were. And then, yeah, I was feeling fast for her. So we pulled back. But she was also not trusting, like, in the beginning, like Gabby, you know, and in a healthy relationship or good relationship, ideally, you work through your stuff with the person. Like, you realize why you are the way you are. And, you know what I mean? And it all comes out. So she was having that experience of like, you know, I guess I didn't trust that, you know, one of her parents would be home when they should be home or they said something to her and it didn't happen. You know, she wasn't able to trust it. But as we committed more and more, she always felt like, even though it felt like she actually enjoyed the commitment. Like, when we became, when we moved in, she was like, oh my God, I really trust that you love me. Like, I really feel better. Like, every step that we did to a more commitment, which would seem that she was like, a pulling back. But actually, when, and I never, when she was like, okay, yeah, let's, like, when she, I would never push her, whatever, she would then feel 10 times closer when we got married. She even said, she's like, I really trust that you love me. Like, it's just about, it's just about, we're all coming from our spaces. And in the beginning, she was sometimes afraid to say a feeling that she had, because if she spoke up as a child sometimes, and you know, one day when she, you know, if you, you know, if you water on it, she's leaving the house or you catch her at the right time, she could speak more to this. I hate to share her stuff, but, um, um, she, what was I saying with the trust? Didn't believe love. Oh yeah, no, yes, you got it. You got it, you're a fucking pro. Got your, I appreciate you. She ate you. Got you. Yeah, she would, like, if she expressed her feeling, let's say something I did annoyed her. I'm annoying. I'm expecting to be an, like, I'm expecting as somewhat she's going to be annoyed with me. I'm a very annoying person. It's one of my biggest insecurities. I always try not to, and for people who find me annoying, I'm always trying to talk less and to be less annoying. And unfortunately part of my anxiety is I talk a lot and I am annoying. So it is what it is, but I'm aware and I don't like it either. I don't like it either. But let's say she, you know, I left something where she wouldn't want something or, um, I don't know if it, like, if I'm like, oh, will you throw me the leash? And she would rather like, I throw me this. She wouldn't even say something even as small as that, bothered her because she would think that it's like a fight. She would think that like, oh, I wouldn't love her. If, if something, you know, she's so used like, if she brought up problems as a kid, it was like a problem with her. So that stuff like came out and I'm like, babe, you're going to have a million problems with me. Like you're going to be like a million things, or someone's going to hurt your feelings. Like there's going to be so many things. Um, and I'm still here. I'm here. I had the opposite experience, but even though I was so poor, my mother was always home. So I knew no matter what happened. I call them the walls, I fucking flunked this. I, I, whatever we got into a fight. The bitch is in the kitchen. She's cooking. She's, she, where is she? I know to this day where my mother is. She's in the kitchen. You know, she was for love or money. Poor cooking and doing laundry every single day. She never left the house, right? So that type of stability. So we come from somewhere that I can handle a lot. I'm like, bring it on. What are you shit? Which is probably so amazing to her though, but she had never experienced that. And I love what you said at the beginning, which is so real. Like sometimes you do have to really individually do the work because your partner can't solve it for you. But then the fun moments in relationships, when you realize you're compatible is also realizing, like, oh, my baggage and my shit works really well with your baggage and your shit. And what I'm bringing, like Gabby's like, oh my gosh, let's see if you can handle this. And you're like, this is child's play. I got you and she's like, wait, you're not going to run. You're not going to get mad at me. I'm in the kitchen. I'm in the kitchen. I am in the kitchen. I'm in the kitchen. I'm in the kitchen. I'm in the kitchen. And I love every, yeah, like, yeah, it's kind of like, yeah, what you were saying, the baggage. It's like, we heal each other through, you know, it's like, I have the exact version of sequel for her and she is exact for my stuff. So it really, really works in a way that isn't, yeah, we're not solving each other's problems. Nor is it our responsibility. They just are healing together. And how amazing that like her with her wanting to trust, but not feeling like she could trust you having, yes, things in your childhood, but you being like, no, no, no, I'm always going to be in the kitchen. I'm not going anywhere and to be that stable force for her to keep proving like proving when you moved in together. And she's like, oh, my God, maybe this is real. Proving when you got married. She's like, oh, my God, you really do love me? You're like, girl, I'm always going to be here. Like, I'm just nobody is here. Like, I'm just here. That's what, like, it's not, yeah. So once I decide, I mean, I'm also like that with so many things I found these glasses 12 years ago. I don't know what I'm going to do. It's like, they were, they fit to some of my glasses. Like, I don't really think I have one, you know, I decide on the thing. Big, look how I am. I used to know with everything, not just people. You're all in. I'm like, if I like something, why am I getting new glasses? Why am I going to the optometrion? Like, no, I don't, I like it. It works. And I can like something for a long time. I still listen to songs 20 years ago. Okay, freaking Vanessa Carlton making my way back home. Nothing like that. I think it's making my way down town. Oh, yeah, could be wrong. Listen, 20 years, and I still don't know the lyrics. But that is a classic, that's a classic. Like I won't get over it, making my way back home. Wait, did she ever say that? No, it's making my way down town, walk it. Yeah, but that at some point she goes home. She goes home. Wait, can you tell us in the comments? Look at, look at that. She does. She's looking up. Look at that. I do love a good Vanessa Carlton. Are these real? Yeah, you can eat them. No, no, you can. Maybe you're not the type person eat them. Wait, how long have they been there? We replenish, but there could be a little dust. You just run it. There's no way it says make it my way back home. She says make it my way downtown.
- You're about to talk. - Face is past and I'm homebound. - Yeah, I'm about to go. - And I'm homebound. - Yeah, she's homebound. (upbeat music) Are we playing a game, ready? - Yeah. - Who's more likely to you and Gabby Edition? - People hate when I chew on podcasts. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - I can get you. - See, see the annoying? I hear you, I don't know. - Are they good? - Really. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah, okay. - All right, who is more likely to laugh at an inappropriate time? - Me. Or Gab, Gab and I are the same. Gab and I laugh at everything the same. Like, we both, we are so inappropriate at home. She lets me be me, I let her be her. - What is like an inopportune time that you guys have found something funny that you're like, we need to fucking stop right now. Stop laughing, stop laughing. - It could be an unfortunate circumstance and we're laughing, it's not my fault. - Okay, who's more likely to send back a meal at a restaurant? - Me. But I don't send anything back. It really would have to be very bad. But I'd be more likely. - Are you leaving reviews? - No, never. I don't know the, the depths of a person who logs in, I can't even, they log in in, the log in a loan, forgot password, go to the email, get the code. I, it, it bewilders. - It's bad. - It's really scary stuff. - Who's more likely to plan a spontaneous date? - Me. - What is one of the most romantic things you've ever done for her? - I don't know, we do so many romantic, we love to be romantic together. The most romantic thing. - Or just like an example. This has to be the most. - It's, it's so tough to say, let me think. - Well, well, I know, but I do romantic things for her all the time. I mean, I drive home from, from shows and she likes high shoes. So if I pick up gas, I go and I grab high shoes and I bring her a snack. - You know, or things like that. So there's small day to day and then there's the big grand. We go horseback riding. I booked us a beautiful, you know, I don't want to say the in, but you know, they have this and that. So we do, we do big and small romantic things all the time. I think, yeah. - Who's more likely to pick a fight her? What is the dumbest thing you guys have ever argued over? - We all, dumb things all the time. And we're over in two seconds. Something that Gab and I have in common and this is back to the compatibility. None of us hold the grudge. We are ready in two seconds to kiss and sit on the couch together. Like it's the best thing. We're like, I was, you know, sorry, I was like, I'll be like, ugh, I was in a minute. No, kiss, kiss, we're back. Wait, it's two seconds. - Who's more dramatic? - I don't know, maybe her, but not by much. - Okay. - Who is more likely to spill a secret? - I think neither of us. - Really? - Have each other? - Or just think if someone, how about this? - We tell each other every day. - I was gonna say, are you the couple that's like, if someone tells Gabby a secret and they're like, do not tell anyone. She's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. - No, no, she's your spouse, guys. Don't, you're not gonna come between my marriage. It's like I signed this NDA. Like she signed this NDA for traders or something. One of the shows that she went on to, she had to sign an NDA. I'm not gonna know if she won. - You think an NDA is gonna come between me and my wife? Are you ready to fucking mind? Are you out of your goddamn mind? It's like we know, we are NDA proof. Okay, so you just need to know that. Industry, studios, NDA, Gabby, Wendy knows everything I know. And I know everything she knows. And that's the way it is. - I don't see how it could, like I think, my husband and I had this conversation with someone recently where we're like, oh, we know everything. Like we tell each other everything. And one of the couples was like, what? And we were like, are we the weird ones? Or are they the weird ones? And this is making me feel like they're the weird ones. - No, no, they're the weird ones. You know, my friend, Ali, and we debated this, but she told me about somebody, you know, she told me about this, you know, love affair that she was having, not on a fair like cheating, just to love affair. - She was having a romance. And she said, but don't tell Gab, you know, 'cause Gab might know the person or something like this. So I said, okay. (laughs) - Come on. And especially fun to you like that, I'm running. Bro, I am running. I am peddled to the metal. I can't wait to tell her. And guess who's hooking up? I walk into the house. - Guess who's hooking up? I mean, that's a joy. We have such small joy, so let's have joy. - Oh, it's just the best. - A great new pipe and hot tea. - And you know, I love my tea. - And it's not also like impacting your life. - At all. - So you can kind of just like relish in it. - And you know, she told me that you know that she, you know, she's like, come on. - Yeah, if you think that someone's not telling, they're fucking partner, what you say. When someone says, if I sell a friend, and it's nothing to do with spousal, telling or whatever, I say, don't tell anyone this. And they go, who am I gonna tell? I go, what kind of a response is that? I don't care. I don't care. Even if you don't want to tell. Even if you're in jail cell. I don't care. No one. I don't want to ask them who you have, who you don't have. I don't know your friends with this week and who you're not. What kind of response, when somebody says, don't tell anyone, who am I gonna tell? I don't know that's not the response that you say. You say, don't tell anyone to go, I will not. - I will not. 'Cause you know what it is, you're right. And people have said that to me before. And I'm like, oh, fuck have I ever said that to anyone? It's almost like you're kind of already admitting guilt. You're like, who would I tell? Like, I have no one to tell. - I don't know. - Yeah, you do. There's always someone to tell. - There's someone to tell. It's like, who would, and it's just not a relevant response to that. It, I don't know how we got to that. And that's gotta go, 'cause there's always someone to tell. - There's always someone to tell, and you may not have someone to tell today, but you could tomorrow, I don't care. I have nothing to do. I just said, don't tell anyone. I didn't ask, who? - You have a comedy special called Wake Up currently out on Netflix. Congratulations. - Thank you. - I mean, from the beginning of this you saying, like, I gave it six months. I was gonna see people like it. - I know. - I was good with my accounting position. - I know. - I know. And now here you are on Netflix. How does that feel? - It's unreal. I mean, John Malaney, who is one of the greatest stand-ups ever and of our time, called me out of the blue on this. It's like, and I wasn't, you know, John Malaney's in a suit. He's so polished, you know, that he would jive with someone like me. But again, it's about that compatibility. You know, he just was tremendous. He put his weight behind me. This is the fellas helping. You wanna be a good dude? This is the way to fuck and do it. And he got it done. And I showed up for him. I said, well, all I can do is bring you an amazing hour of material. I got, you got me and I will not let you down. And we went out there and we did our shit in one night. - Were you nervous at all? - No, I was, I'm always nervous. I mean, when you ask me if I'm nervous, I wake up nervous. - Okay. - You know, it's my baseline. But it's also an excitement. I'm very, I know how to chant. Like, I'm just always a little bit of a nervous person. But especially nervous for this, no. It's always before I go on. As soon as I get on stage, I'm home. I feel like all the lights, just me. And I traipse around like it's my living room. I feel so comfortable when it's all the beginning and the stuff around it. But as soon as they call me up and I got the mic and I know I have some stuff to say and everybody just sit the fuck down. We're gonna get through it. I feel so at ease. It's almost like the talking to you or the small talk that I have to experience or the handshaking or the, or the small social gatherings that I'm more nervous than when I get on to that stage where I feel completely home. People go, do you get nervous finding out these big theaters? I was thinking the other week, I'm like, I think the bigger, the better for like, I feel amazing in these theaters. It's feeling so warm. It's feeling like an apartment I walked in, I turned the lights on and they work. And the water is running hot. It's just a great spot, I'll take it. I, everything I do, I just take seriously and I enjoy doing. So I'll continue, this is how I toil basically. How I do stand up, I write and I act. And I'm continuing to do it on bigger and bigger scales. But within due time, you know, I'm working on my own show for HBO, obviously a dream, but it's not to say that my first part on "Hacks" wasn't a dream. They're all part of the dream and they're all just, you know, snowballing into the, they're all just growing the dream. So it's all good, I'll be on tour. I love seeing you guys in these theaters. I've never felt more at home. And it's also now, I look in your eyes, I'm knowing that we're just dropping. When this comes out, I think, we're dropping out the next, you know, swag two of the tour, so to speak. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. So just doing just, yeah, just I live again, one of the greatest slides I'm building on my life with Gabby. And we just, we just love it. So I really, I wish, yeah, I don't know how humble that sounds. I'm just really grateful and I'm really thrilled. Well, I think we can all agree. You've done a wonderful job. Have I very, very nervous to be on this? Why? Because I'm not so familiar. I have no clue what's going on. I think you've done an excellent job. They said you would ask pointed questions. I said, OK, I don't know if it's like, you know, who wants to be a millionaire? I'm like trying to get my facts to read. No, but they said, you know, she can, she can be real. I said, OK, well, I'm going to, you know, I can't say anything other than what I said. But also like,
Like, I wanted to just have fun with you. You're really entertaining person. - Thank you. - I was excited to get to know you. I'm excited for my audience to continue to get to know you. I wanted to have a nice, we're in May, you know? - It's unreal. - The weather's good, our feet are up. You're eating jelly beans. You finished your tea, you didn't drink the bag in front of me and make me vomit. - Call her down, baby. - Call me daddy. - See, this is all part of the dream, actually. - We did it. - See, I'm not upset with the other podcasts I've done. I'm just saying we're now on Call her daddy. - That is all I'm saying. - No, this was such a pleasure. You were so fun. - Thank you. - Your wife also was such an incredible host on our reality show. - How good was she? I know, and people think I'm biased, but she's objectively good. I'm asking others. - When I would get the cuts, and I would see her sections, we're like, this woman's a star. - All right, because it was your, and that's true. - So I'm in post edit, watching her, and we're watching her different takes, and I'm like, how do you pick a take? Like every take is amazing. - You better get away, 'cause she was saying some shit, and thank God you guys let her get away being her. - I said to everyone, I said, if this is our host, you have to let her be Gabby, and let her do her thing, because you can't dilute it to just for television, make sure it's friendly, let Gabby rip, because that is when she's at her best. - I agree. - And when she was calling people perverts, I was like, they were perverts. I wish they weren't. It's like people ask me, how do I come up with my ideas for comedy, and why do I talk about it? I wish I didn't know Pat Affilia. I wish I didn't know it, fellas, but you have outdone yourselves, and now it's in my head, and I don't want it there, so I bring it to you. - We gotta talk about it. - Robbie Hoffman on Instagram. We will be dropping the new dates. Thank you so much. - Thank you for coming. - Alex for having me. (upbeat music) (bell ringing)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Robbie Hoffman, an Emmy-nominated actress and comedian, embraces self-awareness and pride in her accomplishments, especially stemming from her independent upbringing.
She finds joy in public engagement, particularly at weddings, where she celebrates quieter, less-recognized individuals like her sister, a social worker.
Her early life as a class clown and free-spending attention-seeker evolved into a more controlled, sophisticated comedic style, avoiding chaos and missteps.
She refrains from engaging in audience heckling or confrontation, emphasizing a supportive, unified energy during her performances.
A pivotal career shift from accounting to comedy was driven by self-doubt and a six-month trial, where she tested her talent through competitions and received external validation.
She offers a satirical yet insightful critique of gender dynamics, noting men's "darkness" as a societal issue and contrasting it with women’s more nuanced, case-by-case behaviors.
Her personal anecdotes on social norms—like bare feet on planes or tea-bag etiquette—reveal a strong sense of personal boundaries and discomfort with inappropriate behavior.
She champions self-awareness, rejecting delusion in favor of objectivity, and highlights how personal experiences, especially with her partner Gabby, shape her views on relationships and human behavior.
Summary:
Robbie Hoffman reflects on her journey from a self-raised, attention-seeking teen to a self-aware comedian who values authenticity and personal boundaries. She shares how her early life—marked by class clown antics and a pivot from accounting to comedy—shaped her confidence and comedic maturity. A key turning point was a deliberate six-month trial to prove her comedic talent, grounded in self-doubt and external validation.
She emphasizes the importance of emotional boundaries, criticizing men’s social behaviors and societal norms, such as public displays of discomfort or gendered taboos. Through anecdotes on personal experiences—like refusing bare feet on planes or criticizing tea-bag etiquette—she illustrates a clear sense of self and discomfort with overstepping. She also offers a sharp, satirical take on gender dynamics, arguing that men's "darkness" is more visible and socially condemned than women’s, while women tend to be more nuanced and case-by-case in their behaviors.
Her advice on relationships stresses the need for a balanced mix of "hotness" and "intelligence" to create a healthy partnership, warning that imbalances—like two hot or two smart people—can lead to emotional disconnection. Ultimately, Hoffman blends personal narrative with social commentary, presenting herself as both a grounded observer and an empathetic, critical voice in modern culture.
FAQs
Alex uses this as a humorous critique of men, suggesting that 95% of men are generally good, but 5% carry dark or inappropriate behaviors that are offensive or harmful. She argues this 5% is something people don't want to acknowledge, especially compared to women, who are more nuanced and open about their behavior.
After working as an accountant, Alex realized her passion for comedy and pursued it seriously. She set a six-month trial period to ensure she wasn’t just chasing dreams—she submitted to comedy competitions and saw consistent success, which gave her confidence to fully transition into comedy.
Alex doesn’t experience heckling or confrontation from her audience. Instead, she describes an energetic, supportive environment where people come to enjoy her comedy together, creating a safe and positive atmosphere.
Alex believes men are more likely to hide or shame their flaws, especially when it comes to personal conduct. She contrasts this with women, who are more open and nuanced in their behavior, making them more approachable and less judgmental.
Alex believes that a healthy relationship requires a balance of 'hotness' (attraction) and 'smartness' (intelligence). She says a mix of both is ideal—two hot people or two smart people can lead to imbalance, while one hot and one smart partner creates a stable, balanced dynamic.
Yes, she recalls a deeply uncomfortable incident on a plane where a man had bare feet next to her, which she found extremely gross. She also describes a disturbing moment when a homeless man blew his nose aggressively, which made her feel like she was in an incubator.
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