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Reya Lovenlight - 2/22/2026

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Reya Lovenlight - 2/22/2026

The transcription features an interview with Ray 11 Light, a 52-year-old grandmother who entered the adult industry later in life. She explains how her name originated from a prayer for clarity at age 23, and she began making adult content in 2019 after a 21-year marriage and a subsequent relationship, driven by an artistic perspective rather than purely sexual motives. Ray took five years to decide to go public due to concerns about family reactions. She emphasizes the importance of consent in sex work, recounting her recent first sex party where she supported a friend playing violin during a performance. Also a musician, she taught herself guitar and writes songs, though she hasn't professionally recorded. The host shares stories about attending a sex party with a violinist, the on-air death of Bill Margold, and upcoming events including a strip club appearance with Janine Jericho and a convention in Des Moines. Ray discusses her use of Twitter, where she appreciates the freedom of expression and handles criticism by not caring about others' opinions, focusing instead on her family. She admits to challenges in building her business independently, noting she needs help with organization and marketing, and she hopes to attend Exotica in April to network with fans and professionals.

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Hey everybody welcome to another edition of Gis talking for a Sunday we are so pleasantly surprised to have Ray 11 light with us Ray how are we doing today? You live in the dream. Live in the dream now I expected to see four or five shirtless movers in your house because you said you're moving. What's up with that? I do it all myself I do it all myself actually my ex boyfriend helped me one day move some furniture which I had moved initially all by myself but piece by piece in my car from the last place I had no help in this time I was like it'd be easier but I just hate moving it would have ended up less my furniture would have ended up less damage have I just done it myself but hey it's okay. Yeah well boyfriends got to get even somehow or ex boyfriend so yeah yeah ex boyfriend I think that's the end of it you know I think the next next place I'm going to move to is the carousin or the or the cemetery I'm just done. Oh so anyway that's just but that's just me so anyway we are here with Ray 11 light Ray a pretty pretty name where did you where did you get that name from? So the whole name is Clarity Ray 11 light my name that I go by day and day out is actually Clarity. It came to me when I was about 23 years old I was very very confused and praying for Clarity got the name Clarity. Some months later love and light came as the last name and then Ray was the last piece never really used it much except for really just the clarity so then when I was starting on this whole adult journey I had all these different names come up and I was like my agent was like Clarity is a really good name and I was like I know but I just you know I'm a musician and I do other creative and I just felt like I needed two separate identities like me as Clarity and then me as somebody else and then I was just like well I do kind of have this other name I could just be Ray 11 light so I just yeah so it's a name I've had for a very very long time it means a lot to me but yeah and it was it was a little interesting being called Ray as a first name because I had never that had never been a thing but I got used to it really quick so. Sure. Now how long ago did you decide to just happen this wild world of whacking us? I so I have a probably a I don't know basically I was in a 21 year marriage got out of it so I'll madly love and obsessed and enamored with this man and this is in 2019 and I just started taking photos and video of him and of us completely instigated by me not him at all and I just I just got into I got a tripod not because I knew that was a thing I just I never tripod just so I could stick it there and not have to hold the phone and I just kind of fell in love with the art of it honestly I'm really an artist and I really came to this whole thing from an artistic perspective more so than just an utter total complete slut not that I'm not also a total complete slut in a horn whatever yes but also kind of first and foremost an artist so I thought about it for five years you know what will my parents think what will my kids think blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah around around around around around around was going to do faceless content and then just kind of went you know what fuck it literally. Five years old just said let's go so yeah just I submitted to one agent I only knew one person in the industry which is Hollywood cash and so I submitted to his agent and they took me and yeah that's that so. Wow so then you what happened to the photos and the videos of you and your acts then just I have them he's you know we're not really connected really and he's not in this world so I don't really have permission to use any I mean I could I thought about it like I could probably do some clips on Twitter or something like that but I can't really I can't really do any of it which is a bummer because there's some good shit in there but yeah unless I could someday who knows maybe I could have his permission to use it but yeah. Well that's just one of those deals you know since it's consent is everything in this world you know I just went to my first sex party last night and yeah it's all about consent I didn't do anything I just had fun I supported my friend who was actually playing violin at it it was it was fun it was really cool it was interesting to to hang out him but yeah it's really you know consent is key in any any type of sex works sex play any of it you got consent you got everything so was she playing the violin or playing the violin oh no she's literally musician the result there was these performance issues playing violin somebody was in Shibari all like roked up and raised up there with these other girls singing topless and like it was cool it was a whole a whole deal whole performance but it's a it's a group it's a group that does this regularly so yeah it was cool it's fun I do see that for those of you who have been around Nikki Huntsman she's getting into comedy now and she's performing with a troop called tits and giggles nice and so I think that's gonna be my last career move porn and then regular acting and then music and then I think I'm gonna be a standup comedian when I'm like 70 there you go well gonna have goals I guess yeah I'm gonna have some stories by 70 so yeah sorry all right well let's turn off a Steve Steve's back with us and Steve go ahead and meet yourself a question for a real oven light what kind of music do you play or instruments that you that you play I Steve I you know I always really loved singing and when I was 21 years old I worked at one of the very first little drive-through coffee places before Starbucks and all this this is up in western Washington and so there would be times where I'd be sitting there for like 45 minutes and nobody would come I got a guitar at a pawn shop for $60 taught myself D G and A I think you know and just sat there and then eventually you could string them together I haven't unfortunately I'm you know 52 and I don't put a lot of time and effort into guitar I've never practiced scales nothing so but I've written songs I really consider myself more of a lyricist in a songwriter I suppose but yeah the only instrument I could say I kind of play and I'm technically probably still at a beginner maybe intermediate level is guitar I have decent rhythm I do have decent rhythm and you know musicality and whatnot but I'm not like yeah I'm not some yeah I've written some songs on the on the guitar you can clarity skogland on Instagram I have some stuff that you can see there's just little clips I have nothing professional recorded not yet but yeah yeah so no I mean yeah there's a neighbor knows some some producers so okay um but yeah and if you ever find yourself in New York and you want to do some karaoke you can come visit me at my bar amazing that'd be fun you know I've only done karaoke I'm not even kidding maybe three times I think ever in my life I'm not one of those most singers are into karaoke or they've done it lots of times I really haven't but it's fun it's fun the few times I've done it so but I will definitely if I'm in New York I'll come see you for sure and I'll take requests because I don't mind making a fool out of myself like whatever it's all it's all about having fun I'm here for the shits and giggles more than anything exactly thank you all right thanks to you appreciate that I've I've written four songs for Garth Brooks and three songs for Brian Jovey well they haven't recorded them wait what they haven't recorded them no no uh but you're adorable that's a cute that's cute but I will say that during the the early 2000s we went to a bar every Wednesday night called the cozy corner and and suddenly we did karaoke there was some seven until eleven probably if you paid the girl an extra 20 bucks she'd go till midnight like she always would or give her a cup of hot and fireball anyway I thought you know I should I had a home karaoke system so I thought maybe I should just and people always like to couple of songs I sang and so I did was I made a a CD and they put it on their jukebox and the CD was called um almost live at the cozy and that's the the name of the nice the bar right there so yeah I was I was jukebox famous at the cozy corner bar in Mason City Iowa so that's uh yeah but I did but no and you can use that joke about the songs to those people I like it that was good I mean you had me you had me I had you I did before I go too much farther I want to tell you next week our guest is going to be Brandy Swan so Brandy will be our guest next week and looking forward to having her on I do know that this last week uh we did book one more performer into our group at Exanica a bigger name Diana Loren and so Diana will be with us And just tonight on squeaky clean adult films, he featured a little bit of that and the movie with Melissa Hill as well and they had a fun time on that movie. So he talks a little bit about Exotica at the end of it shows everybody that we're gonna have. Earlier last week I got a book in the mail called Between Two Worlds from Juliet Goldie Bear Margold and it's that's Bill Margold's daughter. We had Bill Margold's daughter on the show before and she wrote a book. And I'm part of that so it was a kind of a cool deal. I was um. Were you the ghost writer for the book? No, I was not, no I was not. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Um, but I um. The last day Bill was like. He called me three times. I was complaining about his telephone not working right. So anyway I was going to be on his radio show that night at 430 Pacific time and at 418 PM I heard the phone hit the ground and he died. Oh my god! Right on the radio. And so I tell a little bit of the story in the book so. Rockstar. That was uh. Dying on air. Wow. Well and Alan he said I'm gonna die doing what I love. Well he did. Yeah well Jamwell he did it. That's amazing. What a great story. Then a couple of years ago I was texting Herschel Savage and uh didn't get a reply back and found out that he died. So he died well texting me so Reya don't call me on the phone. Don't text me because you're gonna die. I'm never messaging you unless I have a death wish. There you go. There you go. Uh this week uh Janine Jericho will be in Des Moines. She's gonna be at the strip club down there called The Minks and Gabe and I will be there. And uh we're gonna do some signing down there next month. Um a big time star so big I can't even place her name right now. Gabe helped me out on who's gonna be there next month and it's gonna be like a stripper tournament of some sort and she's gonna host. Who is it? I don't remember it. Do you mean? No, Zanine's not gonna do it. I feel so stupid for not remembering who was gonna be there but anyway. I don't remember because I just had I just have third day in my head. Okay well we'll um we'll figure it out before the end of the show. Anyway she's gonna be there. We're gonna have a little group party down there and everybody will be there probably. Well everybody wants to be there. Everybody says hey I'm going and then we go down there to be three of us. So anyway we'll meet up with her down there as well. We'll unmute things and let Adam ask a question. Adam go ahead. Not not to interject but I think you were trying to refer to Lauren Phillips. Yeah. That's exactly right. And she'll probably watch this then she'll say. But no seriously Patrick I appreciate you having me on the show as always and it is very nice to meet you. Reya. It's very nice to meet you Adam. My question is and we were speaking about this briefly before the show about Twitter and I'm just gonna let maybe you talk for a couple of moments about your feelings about Twitter and how you handle maybe criticisms or political things that you find on Twitter. So I've gotten to the point so I really just started learning social media barely at all. You know I'm a 52 year old grandmother got to remember like I just started learning I started with Instagram in 2023. So Twitter took me a second. I've only been on there a year and a half. I okay so I don't really you know I didn't create the platform so I try not to get to hung up or frustrated because I'm such a like anarchist rule breaker. I'm but I like to follow the rules when other people establish rules because it just makes it life so much easier. I'm just not innately good at assuming rules. So I Twitter is nice because I don't have to censor myself very much like say I would have to on Instagram or Facebook or you know anything else really so I do like it for that. I don't really it is what it is. I'm grateful for what it is it's it's given me you know more of a platform and more connection than really other social media. It's become kind of the easiest one for me to use. So I like it for that. I can't sorry you asked a couple questions within that question. Oh criticism I don't. I mean I couldn't have done this job I couldn't have you know probably I probably wouldn't have been successful in any branch of the entertainment industry. At a younger age quite honestly because I think I just I would have been too sensitive I care I cared too much what other people think I just. So that I don't care at all what people think I'm not going to say I don't but I really don't care that much. I care about what my kids think and I care about what my parents think I mean even that to a point. And that's kind of it my grandson. I don't really I'm not going to get too bad out of shape either way like high praise or you know you're gross and old and what are you doing or whatever what I don't get a ton of negative commentary. You know lately I get more negative commentary when I like Patrick was saying earlier if I start commenting on you know stuff in politics or what not people will. But that's just that's how that goes when people are hardcore on one team you know they're going to bash the other team and you know I'm always trying to say hey hey hey hey why don't we all be on the same team you know there's way more of us than them and what you know anyway so it's just. Yeah I try not to buy into any any of that you know too much but I can I'm a passionate person I can sometimes get passionate about things but me as far as my personal feelings if somebody's trying to knock me down or call me oh my god a whore what I'm like I literally am a whore. Look what I don't know like tell me give me some names that like I you know it's beyond sticks and stones like it's just not even I just don't even it doesn't even register to me. As sticks or so it's just it's just words and people's opinions and feelings so I guess for the most part 99.9% of anything negative that comes my way rolls right off of me and 99.9% of anything positive that comes my way is really nice and on an occasion somebody will say something you know just you know eloquent or creative or unique or something where I'm like oh. You know I'll actually repost it or something but generally I'm just really I'm just astounded and amazed quite honestly that at this age and the stage of my life that I can even do what I'm doing and even have people interested in you know looking at me interacting with me having anything to do with me in that way. Well I think with maturity comes the ability to stop giving a fuck I agree with that 100% and as far as and one of the things with Twitter is it's still a very important promotional tool and absolutely given that you started at a late age what kinds of challenges do you find that you run into in building and of course the male category is always near the top. If you know how to run your business how to operate your platform you will do well but that right there I don't I'm learning I'm not a business person I'm not I it's it's been a lot I really thought that I was going to be able to get enough shoots every month to where okay that was going to sustain me and I could you know slowly figure out all the rest but I am so happy. I'm slowly quickly I don't know figuring out that that yeah it's it's a business it's a popularity contest it's about just like over saturating the internet with all your media and yeah I do everything myself I don't have any kind of help at all and I'm really at the point where I'm kind of like I need some sort of help because I don't even I don't even schedule posts on anything like that I have 10,000 followers on Instagram is a near mirror. Like I've only had that for I don't know how long I've had that Instagram a year I guess maybe two years now but I mean I don't I don't post regularly yeah so it's just yeah it's just a matter of being organized and getting focused and really just like okay really taking it seriously and running the business of Ray 11 light and being my you know stone CEO manager and everything and really just yeah getting my button gear and and making it all happen pretty much so yeah so far I'm just flying by the seat in my pants it's a miracle that I'm talking to you guys that you guys even know who I am or anybody knows who I am. Well that is the biggest challenge the biggest obstacle for someone just joining. the new platform based adult industry and i think patrick can can speak to this better than i can but getting on podcast like this but also getting to some of the conventions not just in network with the fans but to network with other professionals to for both shoots and for advice so but that's all i oh sorry patrick do i okay i'm ready patrick so thank you again for letting me on your show that problem i have always appreciate always appreciate it i'm stopping by you always as uh you always has a good perspective that's for sure and it's always good um speaking of that right uh any uh any conventions or a fan-based things you'll be doing this year probably but i don't know for sure i'm actually from Chicago so i'm kind of i've never been to an exotic hub but i'm kind of hoping i can find myself there in april but uh everybody in this room will be there except oh amazing amazing i'd love to hug you all well i'll show up and you'll find out well probably yeah well well well we'll probably have a bunch of songs written for you can submit to guard bro okay yes yes i want to be i want to be up there in the ranks of bonjavis and garth yes my wife's gone to 16 of bonjavis concerts my very first concert that i ever went to in my entire life was bonjavis yeah it was flippery one white tour it was amazing i was 12 years old wasn't so it's some serious shit around our house when that comes on just like the fucking world stops it love it i love it i my first concert and uh was uh uh porter wagnar and dolly pardon oh wow wow technically my very very first my dad used to be the accountant for jy the guitarist and sticks and so yeah i and uh yeah literally he just walked into my dad's office and lagrange illinois one day and was like huh and he was as an accountant for years so it was a dress rehearsal for whatever the mr roboto tour it was amazing it was my dad my brothers and i just sitting in this theater as sticks is rehearsing that so that's really actually my first concert which was me yeah my second one was burl ives and the Oak Ridge boys oh yeah you got the country going yeah we're it's uh the national boys got jamboree in 1981 and uh Oak Ridge boys saying it's now a jamboree is they what again i i'm just yeah you know yeah so game is going to be uh in Chicago so gade go ahead that question or comment for rea loving life yes rea i wanted to touch on i'm an artist musician type myself awesome and um i wanted to touch on your perspective as adult uh entertained as part because that falls in line with my idol Annie sprinkle okay um Annie uh is a big influence on me do you believe that performance art is like do you you comment your uh art as from a performance art perspective as in do you say something in your work you have do you have meaning behind what you do a lot of what Annie did she she is an activist in our work okay and so she used her platform in adult entertainment to speak about issues do you use that do you feel like that can be something you could use that's really interesting perspective i've never thought of that outside of maybe commentary like uh Patrick was saying earlier you know just whatever on twitter my so so far for me my main thing that i really want to do and i really want to convey i've maybe made i've made a few pieces maybe three or four pieces that are independent you know just like on only fans or whatever um so like i explained you know my whole perspective of how i even came to this that's really my whole thing so you know obviously shooting for browsers and not the american all that it's none of that it's just doing tropes i for that kind of stuff i feel like i'm just a hired gun and basically just an actor who's not shy that that's what i'm doing in that contest i'm uh context i'm just acting so what i'm really yeah most interested in is creating my own company creating my own content that's more focused on real deep human connection not just sex including sex but really having it be a little bit more of a natural evolution of people connecting and and what that means and all the different ways that we can do it and all the different kinds of do it but um yeah as far as activism and actually integrating activism into a film or a short or whatever in an adult film i haven't necessarily thought of that because i haven't i'm not really at a point where i am feeling like i want to write scripts or anything like that um it's possible my first thing that i want to do is with a friend of mine who's brilliant and thinks about all these things and is you know i mean like amazing so my our whole thing that i do with him may very well end up having something that could be considered activism or whatever within it but i my whole thing is really organic natural flow and you know just just letting things be as absolutely authentic as possible but if i were to script something absolutely that would be cool and i would certainly integrate that but yeah i have written poems and i have songs for sure that are a little bit more in that vein i mean i have a poem that i wrote for sure that's very much in that vein but yeah as far as is melding it with the adult work i had it's a great idea i love the idea so maybe maybe yeah i just wanted to speak to to you but what i felt with your energy is you're very creative and yeah and you seem to have them you seem to have something to say and so i just saw the natural progression there yeah oh i have a lot to say as we can already tell you know i have to i have to be careful with all these contexts like okay really in rare you know um but yes i'm not i'm not short on opinions as for sure yeah okay thank you yeah thank you i'm very live and let live too though i really am trying my best to just like see the perfection of all of the different types of people even the assholes you know like i'm trying i'm trying it's hard god damn those assholes make it hard sometimes but i'm trying try if i was gonna read eleven light there you go i if i was gonna reuse a joke which i i hate reusing jokes but i have written four scripts for browsers and three scripts for naughty america they just haven't used them yet uh uh but i tell you what i mean snow offense but those scripts you know i would be too offended that they haven't used it that's no reflection on your caliber of writing because it's it's a low bar Patrick it's a low low bar i did write a script for a ghost not american browsers love you guys would love to be more still but come on let's be real i did write a script for uh um victoria peaks with a couple that was gonna be an exotic but they're not gonna be here this year uh and uh a bad back scenario some the man had a bad back and needed a massage and the next thing you know all hell breaks loosen oh but they're not gonna be there so it gets shelved so anyway i don't tell you what when you get a a funkel pop design made of you you know you you you you just made it and uh you're cooler than the cooler side of the pillow and that's amazing that is Lorenzo Lorenzo's with us Lorenzo go ahead question for a ray of love and light it's nice to meet you ray of love and light you too Lorenzo i've been uh looking at your photos and some of your work you said uh you were thinking about mainstream but have you submitted maybe for commercials or like lifetime your perfect foot foot you know acting and you have that look and that personality have you pursued that in any way thank you i haven't pursued i actually was on okay i was on a billboard once i mean with three other people um for a casino up in northern california that was a long time ago but no i haven't i know it's it's funny it's funny it's funny that i just kind of went oh it's just like i'm just a very curious person so that that i the thing that i first really was like okay let's try this was horn but no i would love to do okay i wasn't an independent film uh last year was it last it still hasn't come out yet it's like a slasher flick and it was literally just a two two people me and the writer producer director you know whatever so that was really fun to do and i've been an extra in some big Hollywood movies um but yeah no i've never um really i've done a teeny tiny bit of modeling but yeah never really gong gong ho i don't have an agent i'm happy i you know i would love to do that i would love to do i want to do all of it i'm very interested in just doing all of it any of it yeah i have no i'm just yes yes to all of it pretty much i'm the yes when i when i get to set and when you have to go through your stuff i'm like okay what are your nose and i'm like no nose on any nose if a no comes up you will know because I'm not going to be shy about it but I don't have any hard fast no boundaries with anything really. You really you really should that's you when I see it. Thank you. Thank you. Hopefully yeah we'll see you. But now I'm hope to see you in Chicago. You decide. I know. What when is it which weekend is it? Do we know April 12th I believe. Yeah the 10th to the 12th and some of some of us are going to get there on the 8th and some of us are going to get there on the 9th and and stay that but I I I I would look for consensus here with Lorenzo and and that would be if I had to describe Rea and one word to be refreshing isn't she? Oh, just refreshing. I'm feeling very warm right now. I'm feeling very fresh. And I'm not out there to knock anybody but sometimes when I get done and I go back upstairs and my wife says well I heard you talking the whole time that tells me the interview didn't go that well because I shouldn't be talking the whole time you just carried the conversation. I have to be careful like to not talk the entire time to not do all the talking. That's that's fine because that shows you've got something going on and it's refreshing. So we have of course like I said we'll have our just talking booth in Chicago the same guy that made the Lorenzo little thing there made deal for me and then I had it blown up on a canvas and so I just have to figure out a unique spot to put it right now just sitting on the floor next to a shelf that my in-laws game that watch this make one of me. I didn't put tell them I was putting it in my porn room so anyway they'll look get over that. Anyway Ken Brewer owns I don't know if you've got Roku at all do you have Roku there? We're going to have. For me? Yeah. Like a little Roku box you plug in your TV and yeah I don't know I don't know what's there it's I'm actually like an Airbnb I don't even know I'm not sure maybe. Oh okay. Anyway if you ever own Roku you download a channel called Bmovie TV. Bmovie TV is owned by a guy named Ken Ace Brewer and Ace has come up with a series of slash-rish movies where there might be a movie shown there might be this in that show a lot of blood stuff called Deathbitch and he's got Deathbitch and Deathbitch and Return to Deathbitch and beneath the Deathbitch planet of the Apes I don't know. Anyway he's got a whole series of Deathbitch movies. Anyway in other words I need to be the next Deathbitch. Yeah and he's got you know he had Bridget the Midget in it and it's a quality deal you know so but he's making these small budget films and he's got the platform to plan on 24/7 if he wants so amazing. And then of course James Bartolay have these scissors movie come out I just talked to Scotty Schwartz today the guy who stuck his tongue with the flight pole and a Christmas story. Oh really? Anyway he's in it and he's kind of the campy detective and Scotty's made the movie. Scotty's really kind of made the movie. Anyway it's really fun and James Bartolay and all bunch of porn stars are in it. All of our favorites they all show up at Exanica and they all get topless or naked at some point in time in the movie. It's just amazing. It's called Scissors and you can watch that free unlike to be your some platform just type in Scissors. It's not like they're real scissors one that's like two hours long this is the scissors that's like 57 minutes. My wife says oh it's like an episode of CSI. But it's good it's it's it's it's campy. Yeah yeah yeah that's fun yeah. I mean a lot of porn stuff is campy it's pretty. It really is. Yeah James is with it's James too will be at Exanica and James go ahead question her comment for a rail of in light. Thank you very much. Ray, it's wonderful to meet you. Hi James nice to meet you too. I'm a big new big record collector. I'm a big music fan so amazing. The music discussion you know it's it's always the first thing in my heart. Amazing. So it makes it makes me want to ask you who did teenage Ray I love a light have on her wall. Who's poster? Oh okay on my wall Perry Farrell from James addiction. I believe I had the police and I think it was I don't think it was any of their fate. I don't know I can't I can't remember that it might have been synchronicity. I don't know. Okay. Perry Farrell police. Did I I was way into in excess as like a more of a preteen but I don't know if I had any of that stuff still. Nirvana. Yeah. Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd. Um. Did you ever say any of them live? Um James addiction. Police not back then though I saw the police when they did their like reunion thing in 2005 6 7 8 something like that. And then I've seen that I saw sting with Paul Simon some years ago amazing they toured together which was amazing. In excess I did get to see my very first original favorite band is The Beatles and I still stand by them as being one of the absolute best. My my current favorite rock band for a long time now is actually fish the jam band the American jam band you know who they are. I love them. I went to a show when I was 18 had no idea who they were what they were nothing and I just was like just jaw dropped gobs smack like what the fuck is this these guys are weird and funny and talented and crazy and I'm like going up and down and all around. I love it. What's that? Wait for dead volume 2. Yes and I love I love the dead but fish grabbed me way more than the dead ever did but I do I am definitely a definitely a dead fan as well. Okay. So did they these bands did they have an influence on your music that you write or you know no because I'm so I'm just basically I'm like three chords in a prayer you know. I'm just like all heart. I just have never put in the time to really be you know like a like a really proficient you know talented musician. I think I'm naturally a decent songwriter but I'm just yeah I just haven't really put the time and attention and energy into it that I feel like is what makes people great you know so but maybe in some way but I yeah I feel very limited on just playing guitar. I really want to do more just producing and having all the instruments and all the everything at my disposal because I just I only do so much on the guitar or maybe keyboard I have my daughter's keyboard that I'm babysitting and I feel like it's just a little bit there's a little bit more there than I could maybe explore but I don't play it yet so we'll see what I'm going to get more humor attuned to the guitar than to the keyboard then. Oh yeah I wouldn't even say I play keyboard I can play a couple chords maybe but no I'm not yet. Yeah so yeah I'm not you know of course everything in life influences us in so many ways whether it's you know in exact correlation or not you know there's we're just we are who we are because of all of our experiences and because of everything that we've you know learned and been drawn to and all these things so yeah of course in that way who I am my heart my mind and everything of course is influenced by all the amazing. Shnato Conner was a huge she's really who made me realize like oh maybe I can sing because I was emulating her and I was like as far as I can tell I'm actually singing it like her and she's amazing so wow maybe I'm not half bad so yeah so anyway but yeah no unfortunately I don't think I don't think I'm just good enough and then being a musician to say I oh I took this and I can do do do do do you know like I don't noodle I don't you know yeah. Well the main gist was that I just want to know who who someone you know who you who you who you are. I'm pretty rock and roll I you know I love Zeppelin I love I don't the blues stones they're Canadian two piece band they're kind of a newer I love them yeah I'm I like I like lots of different types of music but I'm mostly yeah rock rock is what really gets me. Yeah exactly. Yeah. That's rock and blues. Yes yes yes yeah and I'm from Chicago so I'm not hating on the blues that's for sure. I was always a big zap of fans so. Oh zap is just unreal brilliant next level brilliant. Right okay well oh that like I said we do get to come to Chicago we do get yeah yeah yeah you and this is making me want to call me even more now. All right we're great to make you. Yeah you too. Let's do it. As all my friends used to say when they came over to my house you framed an Asia poster. For me and yeah none of mine were framed they were just. That was from the movie 40 version. Oh I don't remember that that's hilarious. They went on that deal you know I know how do I know your gay how do you frame an Asia poster that's how I know you're. You framed it yeah that's hilarious. And then they had a big bicycle chase. Then it was Asia. That was the song for me. Yes. So let's talk about porn for a little bit, because we really have danced all around it. And this podcast is called "Jis Talking." [LAUGHTER] Which is brilliant, by the way. I didn't register to me until this morning. I was like, "Jis talking." And I was like, oh, it's like just. It's a play on "Jis." Like, just talking. Jis talking. As you can see by my, as you can see by my merch, hey, we're Jis talking. We're just talking. We're just talking. We're just talking. We're just talking. It's amazing how many people don't get that. But anyway. Yeah. I mean, it took me a second. It took me a second. It's fun. So when you're on set, who are the gentlemen that you'd like to work with? If you see the call sheet for the day and think, oh, fuck, yeah. Who are some of the favorite guys and gals you'd like to work with? So honestly, I, I mean, I haven't really worked that much yet. But I have not had any negative experiences. I have, they've all been great experiences. So I don't know. I was pretty excited to work with Manny Coco. That was really fun. He was definitely-- and then we just totally hit it off. He was just such a cool guy. So that was-- I mean, it was a little intimidated. So honestly, for me, that'll-- even if I'm excited to work with somebody as a person, because it's such a physical thing. And someone's, you know, unless I'm just working with a girl, from working with a girl, like whatever. It's easy, peasy, easy day. But if I'm working with a guy, I usually will like, OK, what am I getting into here? Because, you know, I don't have the biggest pussy in the world. So I-- yeah. So like, yeah, my last time on set, I was like, ooh. And it was, you know, it was fine. It was good. It was mighty D. And he's amazing. And I'd love to work with him again. But like, you know, it's a lot. It's a lot for me to, you know, confidently handle a big old dick. It's simple. It's kind of an interesting one in that way. When I check somebody out, I'm like, oh, OK, cool. Like, they seem so cool as a person. But yeah. So unless it's like, yeah, unless it's somebody really extra large, I just-- I've worked with-- I think I've worked with Tyler Cruz more than anybody, because I can't even think of how many scenes I've shot with him. He's a sweetheart. I love working with him. So if-- yeah, if I find out, you know, whenever I see Tyler, because I've worked with him more than anybody, I'm definitely stoked to work with him. But yeah, I mean, everybody's been great. Every director-- I mean, and I'm not just trying to like, you know, but I really have not had any bad experiences. Well, that's great. And I'm not going to do anything I don't want to do. I'm so confident in that that in any moment-- like, that she with Manny Coco, I had to call cut at one point. I didn't want to, because it was so-- like, the artist in me was like, no, push through. But then I was like, no, you need a break. This is a lot, you know? And that's where I really hate it when people who don't know the industry think they know the industry. Well, they do all this stuff, and the girls got no choice. And she has no voice in the matter. Just take her out right there. No, no. But you got to make your own voice. You have to be-- that's why I couldn't have done this as a younger woman. There's no fucking way. I would have-- yeah, it would not have been a good idea for me. I just wouldn't have been able to handle it. I really admire these young women that can just-- or Ann Men, you know? But in women in particular, it's a little bit different. I think on an emotional level, it's a little bit more challenging for younger women, maybe than it is the younger men. As far as I can talk. And I had a question on one of the other forums wanting to locate a couple of girls who were in the movie Debbie Does Dallas. And I see, no, they did Debbie Does Dallas when they were 19, 20, 21 years old. They played cheerleaders. I said, you really think that 45 years later, they really want to be found if they haven't and found yet. Or, you know, that's not somebody's idea. You know, they wake out of bed and think, well, I took the grandkids to school. Let's get discovered back 45 years later for a movie I made. You know? I mean, maybe, but if they did, they're probably on Twitter and they're probably out there. And if they're not, then yeah, they probably don't really want to be. Yeah. That's probably a correct assertation there. And so I said, what are you going to do if you find them? What? Out of them? Yeah. I've driven by Lisa Delay, who's house many times. And as I've never knocked on the door, hey, Lisa, I got some sympathy to sign. I mean, I did have Susie Reachout to her about that. And Lisa Blockter said, oh, Blocked right off the back of that. So that tells me all I need to know about knocking on Lisa's door, saying, hey, I got some shit for you to sign. Yeah, like, no, that part of that chapter of my life is over. Yeah. So yeah. All right. Morty's with Morty. Another one of our group is going to be in Chicago. And breakfast is at 7.45 if you stay at that hotel or room up with somebody. I saw her out there. Post the hotel. So anyway, Morty's with us. Go ahead. Morty, question her comment for Ray, "Love in Light." Thank you, Patrick. Hello, Ray. Hi, Morty. And nice meeting you. Nice to meet you. You got a great, great personality. I just love it. Thank you. But me, you kind of got a throwback to me. I like Diane Cannon. Like back in the day. I'll take it. I'll take it. I get a lot of people. All the-- it's amazing. I haven't heard that one yet. But I'll take it. I love it. You're just a great personality. Thank you. Yeah, I'm an artist too. And I've-- the picture that Patrick had to promote the show today, I really like that. Oh, I didn't see it. I don't know. Yeah, well, it was nice. Oh, cool. But I was just wondering, what do you like best about the industry? And what do you not so much about the industry? Not so much as easy. I just don't-- I would love to be hired more. I would love to work more. That's really the only thing I don't like is I just don't get hired enough for it to really sustain me as a full-time job. What I do like-- I mean, honestly, pretty much everything else. It's such-- like I said, I've had great experiences. Everybody I've worked with has just been like-- I mean, I'm a very open person. I'm very open-minded. I'm really-- I like all types of people, as best as I can. And it's just-- yeah, it's just cool. It's just cool. Everybody's pretty-- I mean, it takes a lot of courage. I think a lot of people just think, I'll-- you're whatever, you only fans this. I mean, any of it-- oh, so what? Like it's not a real job or something or somehow. It's easy. I've worked a lot of jobs. I've done a lot of physical labor jobs. I actually have mostly done physical labor most of my life. But this is the most intimately physical that I've ever done. But it's-- yeah, and I've always been a fairly courageous and brave person in general. My nickname for one of my friends in high school was Vince, short for Invincible. You've probably been-- okay, Vince. Okay, Vince, whenever I was like, no, we could do it. You know, we could do this. So yeah, it's just-- yeah, it's just the people. I've just-- everybody's been just really cool. And I've learned so much. I didn't know anything before I started. I wasn't a big porn watcher. I didn't-- I was like, what do you eat? I wasn't like, oh, there was no strategy involved. I just dove into it. I had no idea. Basically, no idea what to expect. And it was pretty different than what I expected. I'm used to it now. Of course, I've done it many times. But yeah, I mean, just everybody from-- I just remember my very first day on set meeting the director. And I was with the makeup artist. And I didn't even know he was the director. He's like, oh, I just-- I don't want to make a part of this. And she's like, oh, he's great. And I was like, that was the director. Because he was just like, so cool and fun and informal. And I don't know. I guess I had different expectations. And I was like, oh. And then as I start doing it more, I'm like, oh, everybody's just really generally just pretty cool, pretty fun, pretty relaxed. I also have the easier job as far as performing. Because I don't have a dick that needs to stay hard or come on demand or do any of that. So in that way, it's that part of it, actually, the physical. It's only when somebody's really large that it's a little bit challenging for me, maybe. OK. To act like I'm still enjoying it when sometimes I'm like, I am enjoying it. But also part of me is like, woof. So yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, I guess what I like about it most is just the people. Just the people and just learning. I mean, I've just been-- I've just threw myself into something. And it's been the most interesting on the job, learning experienced by far that I've ever had in my life. I was a weed grower for 15 years. I definitely did not know how to grow weed before I started doing it. So that was a pretty cool on the job learning experience as well. But this is like-- this is even more. So yeah. Well, great. Well, thank you. And I-- I hope to see you in Chicago. Yeah, I know. I hope so too. Yeah. You can sit next to Morty at breakfast, breakfast 745. I won't be there at 745. Sorry Morty, maybe lunch. Maybe lunch. So let's really learn. Okay. Yeah, I'm not there for breakfast at 745. It's not going to be there. Thanks a lot Morty. People wanted me to show you what the. I had to find a promo picture. And on Twitter, it's really hard because there are so many people, and there are so many people who are watching this. And I just didn't have any lies prepared. I was going to tell her. But I just wasn't ready yet. And I was like, oh, you know, photoshoot. Oh, photoshoot for what? Yeah, I mean, it was insane. Like, she just kept going. And I was like, do you really want to know? And I was like, okay. And I was like, I, you know, I'm getting into the adult film industry. I have a good agent. You know, it's all very professional. And she was like, oh, I guess, congratulations. And this is, she's 27 now. So she was, I guess she was 25 when I told her. So, yeah, my mom, you know, my mom is, my mom is almost 80 years old. My mom just loves me. And thinks I'm like the fucking greatest person ever. So she, you know, she would love for me to do something else, but she doesn't harp on it. She doesn't, she doesn't really ask me a ton of questions. Nobody really asks me a ton of questions. They don't know my name. They don't know. And I don't, you know, because that's kind of a can of worms. One of my daughter's friends saw me on porn. So that was very shocking for him. I've known this boy since he was probably four years old, three years old. I mean, I haven't talked to him about it since. He lives up in Washington. I haven't seen him in years. So there's, you know, there's, there's that. There's definitely people out there that I know that absolutely are judging me and condemning me and going, oh my god, what the fuck happened to her? What's wrong with her? You know, for sure. For sure. But anybody that's really close to me that really matters the most, you know, no, I'm just, I'm just me. And I've never really been normal. I've never really fit into the regular kind of thing. And yeah, everybody's just, just okay, you know, and it's not, it's not an elephant in the room, but it's also not, it's not 21 questions either. It's not avoided. It's just sort of accepted. It is what it is. Just we can talk about it, you know, but it, but it's not, but we don't, and we have talked about it, you know, but. Yeah, it's just, it's just sort of a matter of fact. Okay. All right. Well, that answers that. Let's go to, I mean, all right. Let's go to Eric, Eric, question her comment for Ray. I love in life. Oh, nothing much. Hey, Ray. It's not nothing much right down here. But I say you're one time. Do you ever come at LA K-TL? Do any, do any content out here or are filmed anyway here? Like, like, I think America, not America. I think they're based out of LA or maybe San Diego. I think that's where they are. Yeah, I've shot for not America several times. All right. Good enough. I got to work in, got to work in Charles here before we go. Charles is also going to be at Chicago at, at, at Exotic. I, he also knows that breakfast is at 745. Whether you're staying at the hotel or not, I had to put, put that out there. You are incredible. You just seem so like awesome and everything. And, you know, I love the fact that you worked in the weed industry. I have a, I have a, I've never rolled a joint. I've never rolled a joint. You never rolled a joint. That's how weird I am. I've smoked. I've smoked, but I'm not a smoker. So anyway, but I am a plant person. So yeah, I'm just, I'm a weirdo. Anyway. No, that's great. I was like, you and I are done. I was like, you know, I was like, oh, that's so cool. And I was like, I was like, I was wondering if you don't want to answer, which I, you probably will answer, because you seem like you're kind of an open book. So you went from like growing weed to being in the adult industry. How are they like, I assume they're different. I don't know. I'm like very different. I mean, growing weed is, I mean, it's agriculture. I mean, we did indoor and outdoor, but sorry, did you have more at parts to that question? No, no, no, no. So I did that with my ex, my, my kid's dad that I was with for 21 years. He's really the master grower, my stroke. I learned a lot. I know a lot about cannabis that I definitely did not know before that experience. But he was really, you know, that was really his thing and I helped and, you know, built it with him. And that was what we did. That's how we put our kids through college and I mean, everything. I had a roommate years ago who tried to grow weed in our apartment and it did not work out well. Yeah, it's, you really have to, it's a complicated process. It's not as easy as people think, you know. It's really, it's not, it's not rocket science, but it's, it's, there's a lot. It's a lot to know. It's a, it's a really like intensive process. And if you want to get flowers that are actually sticky and that you can actually smoke, you can't just, it's not just like a regular house plant. There's a whole process involved. So, yeah, so there was a gap. You did not do well with the process, but yeah. Yeah. So that ended in 2018 with me as did the marriage. And then I, you know, and then I moved down to LA. I was living in Northern California and I was a nanny. I was an assistant. I had all these other random jobs, you know, in a span of five years before I decided, let's get more to try. So there's really no connection. There's, the only connection is that they're both well, I mean, now cannabis is pretty accepted normal and not even that weird of a thing to do. When we were doing it back in the early 2000s, it was a little more secretive. We didn't, you know, our friends, we didn't weren't just like, oh, yeah, you know, telling the teachers and the other like, I grew up in the 1980s and yeah. Yeah. So maybe not as gorilla as the 80s, but still kind of gorilla. I wasn't like super legal up and up and everything like it is now. So now it's like, yeah, now what I'm doing is still not. So I mean, it's way less socially accepted still than cannabis, obviously. So, you know, yeah. But what you do come to Chicago because I want to get that picture signed by you. Oh, awesome. Okay. But you're just, I love your creative, creative energy is just awesome. Oh, you're sweet. Thanks Charles. It's so refreshing, isn't it? That's my word refreshing because I just feel like this randomly. Wow. Usually we just save that for breakfast. So now you want to get some 745 breakfast. Well, you only have no pants on. That's how Patrick goes. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. Yeah. That's. They do have good breakfast. They have really good omelets and they have cereal and, you know, you know, Also, it's a good stuff. It's a good deal. All right, well, appreciate that, Charles. Thanks for coming by. But yeah, it's a fun time and all the shows are fun. Now, you weren't AVN. You said were you at AVN or X3? I went last year. I actually didn't go this year. I went to XBiz briefly. But yeah, this year I didn't really do all the things. I'm finances are kind of tight for me right now. And I just-- yeah, I thought I was going to be able to make a bunch of money by not going that weekend. And I kind of didn't. So it was a little bit bummed about that. But-- Now you don't have to say where you work. But what line of work are you in now? Oh, that is-- I mean, just same. It's just all-- you know, I'm just a full-blown sex worker. I don't stand on the street corner. Oh, OK. OK, I didn't know if you worked at Joe's hardware. And then-- No, no. No. Look, and we're nuts and bolts. I got your nuts and bolts. No, I worked with nuts and bolts, but not the metal kind. Real quickly, future plans next three to five years. Ooh. Definitely have my own studio and make my own productions, make my own art the way that I really want to make it. Just natural and authentic without tropes and all that is really, really, really, really what I want to do. And yeah, definitely more music and yeah, maybe some more, just, you know, regular non-adult film TV, whatever, whatever. I just want to entertain and have fun, you know? Just like I've been doing since I was a little kid and gotten away from it times. And I just kind of keep coming back to it just like that. This is what I was born to do. I'm obviously a very late bloomer as far as putting pieces into place and really accomplishing things. But yeah, I don't have-- I just want to keep creating as an artist within this industry and beyond, though. I'm definitely not limited to just doing the adult stuff. I'm very interested in just doing all that. Doing all that. Well, if you need a script, I've got one written up. All right, all right. There's somebody else. Yes, I'll get several. So you can certainly change the names and massage based. And there's-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it'd be fun to get into some scripted stuff at some point. But yeah, my whole kind of thing, my whole vision, is just completely unscripted, actually. Right, right. So-- Well, I tell you what, Ray, we have had a true pleasure being with you. And I knew we would, because it's just from your Twitter and some of those responses you've shot back at. And I thought, there's going to be a fun interview there. So anyway, Ray, we really-- Firecracker here. Yeah, firecracker. We really, really appreciate it. Let's see how-- We can get our firecracker. You bet you don't forget. Next week, our guest will be Brandi Swan. You won't want him to stop by our website at www.jizztalking.com. We're on all the socials up here at JizzTalking. I found out the other day, because I had to renew my terms and conditions of Apple from being on the Apple podcast, that I have over 200 subscribers, just talking us to over 200 subscribers on Apple. And I couldn't believe it. Hey, what? And I wasn't expecting 5,000, but I wasn't expecting it. I wasn't expecting it. My realistic goal was maybe eight. But anyway-- Hey, you surpassed that by quite a bit. And the Spotify, the same way. I'm rated pretty shitty on Spotify. I think I got a 2 out of 5 rating. So if you're out there listening on Spotify, give me a 5. What the hell? Yeah! Then cost you anything. Just give me another rating. So anyway, we will be back next week with Brandi Swan. And we hope you are here too. See you then.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The guest, Ray 11 Light (also known as Clarity), is a 52-year-old grandmother who entered the adult industry at a later age, initially as an artist, after a 21-year marriage and a subsequent intense relationship.
  2. She chose her stage name from a spiritual experience at age 23, and she started making adult content in 2019, taking five years to decide to go public due to concerns about family and children.
  3. She emphasizes consent in sex work, recently attended her first sex party, and is also a musician who plays guitar, writes songs, and considers herself a lyricist.
  4. The host shares personal stories, including attending a sex party with a violinist, the death of Bill Margold on air, and upcoming events like a strip club appearance with Janine Jericho and a convention in Des Moines.
  5. Ray discusses her approach to social media, particularly Twitter, where she values free expression and handles criticism by not caring about others' opinions, focusing instead on her family and her own journey.
  6. She acknowledges challenges in building her business independently, admitting she needs help with organization and marketing, and she hopes to attend Exotica in April.

Summary:

The transcription features an interview with Ray 11 Light, a 52-year-old grandmother who entered the adult industry later in life. She explains how her name originated from a prayer for clarity at age 23, and she began making adult content in 2019 after a 21-year marriage and a subsequent relationship, driven by an artistic perspective rather than purely sexual motives. Ray took five years to decide to go public due to concerns about family reactions.

She emphasizes the importance of consent in sex work, recounting her recent first sex party where she supported a friend playing violin during a performance. Also a musician, she taught herself guitar and writes songs, though she hasn't professionally recorded. The host shares stories about attending a sex party with a violinist, the on-air death of Bill Margold, and upcoming events including a strip club appearance with Janine Jericho and a convention in Des Moines.

Ray discusses her use of Twitter, where she appreciates the freedom of expression and handles criticism by not caring about others' opinions, focusing instead on her family. She admits to challenges in building her business independently, noting she needs help with organization and marketing, and she hopes to attend Exotica in April to network with fans and professionals.

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The full name is Clarity Ray 11 Light; 'Clarity' came from praying for clarity at age 23, then 'Love and Light' as a last name, and 'Ray' was added later. The artist uses Clarity day-to-day but chose Ray 11 Light for her adult industry persona.

After a 21-year marriage ended in 2019, she fell in love with a man and began taking artistic photos and videos of them, using a tripod. She thought about it for five years before deciding to pursue it, submitting to an agent and being accepted.

She taught herself basic guitar chords (D, G, A) at age 21 and considers herself a lyricist and songwriter. She has written songs but has no professional recordings yet, sharing clips on Instagram as Clarity Skogland.

She doesn't care much about negative comments, noting that since she is a sex worker, being called a 'whore' doesn't affect her. She focuses on not being too sensitive and lets most negativity roll off, while appreciating positive feedback.

She struggles with the business side, including scheduling posts, being organized, and managing her own content without help. She emphasizes that success requires treating it as a business and a popularity contest, which she is still learning.

She comes from an artistic perspective and considers her work performative and meaningful, similar to Annie Sprinkle. She sees herself as an artist first, not just a performer.

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