Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 107: Live At The Revolving Stage at the Celebrity Theatre in Phoenix

This is exactly right. Welcome aboard season 6 of the Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. A beautiful woman smiles and hands you a scotch. But you have no idea just how messed up her job actually is. It was the most sexist job I think you could have. Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America. Listen to the Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia. This is the show where we step into the past through our old episodes and emerge from the other side with brand new feelings, case updates, and more. Today we're rewinding to episode 107, the much talked about episode. It's called Live at the Revolving Stage at the Celebrity Theater in Phoenix. Legendary, this episode originally came out on February 8th, 2018. So let's listen to the intro of episode 107. [Cheering] What was that feeling? Oh, this is so confusing. I don't know what to do with this. Where did we go? Where's the bread of the stage? What? Are you--you talk to them and I'll talk to you. Okay, great. This is my side. Hi. [Cheering] Oh, this is my side. [Cheering] Oh, we can share. We can share. This is, I think, by the end of the night I'm going to pass out. This is too much. Also, I do not like--there's, like, full butts on it sometimes. Oh, yeah. There's just nothing you can do. I think I've been laying on the couch for two years. How does it look? How about this? Let's just talk to each other. This is, like, some terrible, like, political special on Comedy Central. It's really egg-like or opinions-man or the most. This is the first. Hi. [Cheering] Yeah. Yeah. I can tell my guilt's just kicking in because I just feel really bad for everyone immediately behind me. That's right. That's right. I think that's how it's supposed to work. Oh, and now? Constant. Oh, are you mad? Okay. And are you mad? Yeah. I'm just like Thanksgiving. Um, but how--have you noticed Karen, we've already started to turn. Yo, yeah. [Cheering] Less--I thought my pill was kicking in, but it turns out-- Let's do this. Let's have a moment of silence for one whole rotation. [Laughter] And then-- Just get everybody to be quiet, please. Um, yeah, this is--this is--these are inducing. Well, listen, the first thing that needs to happen is I have to apologize for my hair for the second night in a row. My hair has gone insane. I can't control it. I didn't bring the proper instruments to get into it and train it. I'm using a very small straightener as a curling iron, which a lot of you know is a huge mistake. [Laughter] You, sir, you know what that's like. It looks good back here. Is it? Yeah. Well, that's part I was worried about. Also front. [Laughter] Oh, you just can't win in show business. So-- I did have to, uh, for a--a live show first, have to roll my back. [Laughter] Oh, shit. I didn't check mine. No, you're good. You're good. I do the thing where I do eye shadow for like two hours straight, and then I--and then they're like, it's time to go. And I'm like, "But oh! [Laughter] There's so much more than eye shadow to be taken care of on this thing. How's it? Okay. We're still-- Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. Do we do this? Where did we come in? [Cheering] But we're going to be--but you're going to get mad in a minute. We can't--we can't be attached to their emotions. We can't. We can't. We just have to come here and do our thing. Okay. Right. I kind of love this. I feel like we are only going to have--what is this called? In the round. Uh. I feel like we might need to be doing some sawdying numbers. That's what I would like to be doing. Isn't that what usually goes on in here? There's a lot of this kind of stuff. [Laughter] Type of shit. [Laughter] You kind of can't not want to run around high five a thing. You can. I have a sprained ankle. But you take a 10. Take a lap. It'll be fun. [Cheering] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm tired. Keep going. Don't stop. [Cheering] What am I doing? [Cheering] I can't believe you guys are ready. Keep going. You can get them. You didn't get them. No. Oh, I forgot I also have a bed at the back. See how many rounds I can make you do? No, they're mad. I know. [Laughter] This reminds me of last night we were texting each other in the hotel room. Which we'll get to after the show. Both watching. This is Stone Cold Steve Austin. That's what that felt like. Yep. That broke in Skull Camp or whatever. Have you guys seen this? It's on CMT. It's Stone Cold Steve Austin's. Like American Ninja Warrior style? Yeah. But just with the hottest men you've ever seen and they're like. Stone Cold Steve, I was like, "Buddy, are you ready?" And they're like, "Yes, sir." And then they throw a fucking huge log on their shoulder and run straight up a hill. And you're just like, "Yes!" And Stone Cold Steve Austin's so sweet. He's not like everyone else. He's like, "Who was?" He's like, "You've got this kiddo. You can do this." There he goes. Wow. It's so sweet. We were in, of course, separate rooms last night. It would be cute if we were in the same room. But we're adults. And. [Laughter] But we do these shows and then we go. We immediately go back to our hotel and lay in bed with our eyes open. Like, "Oh, there's so much adrenaline." That just happened. And then we watched terrible TV. So I texted her and I was like, "Please tell me you're watching Steve Austin's broken skull camper, whatever the fucking name of the show is." And then they turned it on. And I've got so into it, my favorite contestant, his name was Mack, he ended up winning. Thank you. [Laughter] Spoiler alert. And he was clearly, I think, in the military, very used to being yelled at by a Stone Cold Steve Austin style voiced man. And he would be in the middle. And I mean, the challenges they'd have to do is, like, basically scale the face of a building with no help. Like, insane thing. With the shirt off. Yeah. Yeah. But this guy would be in the middle of doing this thing, like, climb a wall of tires or whatever. And Stone Cold Steve Austin would be standing on his side going, "You got this, buddy. You got this, Mack." And then the guy, as he's climbing, he's like, "Plink you." He said, "Thank you." [Laughter] Every time Steve Austin encouraged him, he definitely had like a, when they were like, "Mack, you ready?" And he was just like, "Do, do, do, do." Absolutely. And he was like, "Oh my God. Someone raised you well." That's nice. For once. Not him, but, you know, people. He's just so positive about obstacle courses. It was just, I don't know. It's inspiring. And we would love you guys to watch it. So we have the Stone Cold Steve Austin ranch here for Karen to try. I was, we were talking about how long we would have lasted. Based on my lap around here, I'm winded. [Laughter] That's stage one on Broken Skull Camp. You have to do a circle high five. And you said, "Three days later, we would just be sitting there. You'd be smoking cigarettes on one of the obstacle courses." Yeah. 100%. I would have gone there early and hidden them around the obstacle course. Why are we talking about a different TV show? We don't have a TV show. Anyhow, this is, it is, there's a little bit of like a, look at us, we're at the disco field to this, in a way that I've never participated in. And it's very foreign to me. Yeah. I feel like we're supposed to be doing like a silent play, like a one-on-one where we have this like. You know you're it's like a so tell me about the night of it Like you're questioning me. Yeah, yeah walking around the room and then I'd also walk around the room being questioned That'd be fun. Usually the quote person being questioned sits. Yes, I fucking get up and walk too Let's see. Let me answer your question detective Oh, I insulted our cab driver today really bad. Yeah, well, he started it He started it. He fully started it himself. Listen look. He Right, that's the first one ten more and you win ten dollars He was really sweet though, but he he fucking started it. He goes we were he's like what are you guys doing in town and Our answer. It's really easy. It's easier than explaining this fucking thing You just go. Oh, we're doing a comedy show. Yeah, cuz then you don't have to get into explaining to old people at podcasts are Or no offense and young people a lot of people have no idea what that little purple button on their phone is for Just don't they never looked at it that are explaining how you love murder, but you don't love murder, right? So you just we're doing comedy show and he was like oh great. No cab ride is long enough for that explanation Just like can you go around the block again? I just want to talk to you about when I was little I saw this book And he goes oh, which one of you ladies are funnier what I see I see silence in the cab I mean dead fucking silent absence of sound in the cab like our therapist should have hologramed up There's no good answer for this. This was actually a real issue. Thank you brought up psychic asshole cab driver Good job, but it's not like clearly. We don't get shit But it's like how the fuck do you answer that you either sound like you're like? I'll let Karen be the funnier one and I'll say Karen It's definitely her just both being phone Sony. We both have gone. It's me, but that's in Hawaii, right? Oh our ourselves Yeah, oh as a joke. Yeah, it's me. It's me. But instead Georgia solve this problem Which of you two ladies are ladies are funnier and I when those dead silence and I go what do I say? I think it's you sir And she fucking slammed to the cab driver into the ground Emotionally practically chipped as fucking - he was like whoa. Sorry. Sorry everybody me - he really sounded I'm not a lady like he really sounded bomb. He was bummed out And then but I said well because he of course when you say you're here to do a comedy show He made a joke about oh well pull over and you guys can get out and do a comedy show for me We're like keep fucking driving and So then after Georgia said that and of course she and I start fucking cackling like assholes And then I go see there's your comedy show for you right there He was like oh your hotel's right here. Yeah, he got us get out help us with our bags No, that's right. He didn't know And he told me I'm disinvited to Christmas this year Damn it So the the room is spinning The room is spinning and I mean, okay, yeah Thanks, no, we're so excited to be here with you guys Thank you for waiting for so long This is the first what what it just tell me Well, I sprained my ankle Please tell everyone why you this is the saddest thing in the world because we're now so When we're on tour we just have to we're just constantly walking places dragging suitcases with us That's just all we do then we do shows and then we go drag suitcases some more And I am putting such a cramp in our airport speed style because I'm like and I'm trying to be kind of chill about it It's not like I sprained it last Sunday, so it's definitely getting better But it every once in a while just hurts like fuck so then you don't want to get into the realm where it might you might go that direction So I just I'm a little bit faster than you really looks like I'm trying just constantly say But I'm not I would have the highest of stilettos on right now You know me and how much I love my Blondex or whatever That's kind of her thing Shoot we were I can't remember what show we were working on but I said we it was some shitty show like it was a pilot for e And of course you've all seen e for at least seven minutes You know what they're doing over there, and so they kept bouncing back all our ideas They were just like that's too weird. We don't understand it. What's this comedy or whatever and finally I typed up a whole idea that was called shoes shoes Shoo shoes shoes They didn't like it I thought you're gonna say and they gave me a million dollars to make it on Kim Kardashian everybody I didn't I know so little I don't know if you I told you this these are like fucking Target shoes. Yeah. Oh, wait a second. Why don't you do the whole outfit and let's see the specialty item on that dress. Oh Did I throw those you threw the mic? Oh, there's a sound guy. That's fucking livid right now. Sorry beyond livid He brought these from home Also watching a person run in a circle with their hands in their pockets is insanity. I don't think I've ever seen that in my life It was a really fun. It was good. Yeah, you know Well, we have three more running in circles for the show. Oh, okay. We're gonna save them. Yes, I'm for the middle and then second half right All right, what about you do you want to talk about your outfit? Oh Target 2999. I can't be bothered. I can't be bothered Unzips to the belly button and zips to where I want it to go great Yeah, oh wait, this is my favorite murder the podcast That's Karen Kogara that's Georgia hard star Thank you I just in moments like that. I just love to picture the people who work here who are like what the fuck is going on What is wrong with these who and why Where's the cab drivers? Who cares about your cab ride Steven's not here though. Oh, yeah, sorry about that Steven Steven's under the stage cranking it around Carrying it miss they said no, no, no, we have a whole machine for that and we're like take it out and Steven's gonna do it He's gonna push it Got three cats fine and whipping him Sweat dripping off his mustache just he can barely record His headphones are so cumbersome but we are like leave them on We passed a booth at the airport today and it was It had all these headphones and one of them were headphones that had cat ears on top of the headphones It was at your events. We're like we should get those for Steven and force him to wear them while we record Just like no, sorry part of your job is now you have to dress like a cat around us Sorry, it's only my cats will like you. It's my new thing. You don't like it talk to HR That's us There is no HR Yeah Should we No, I wasn't gonna say sit down you aren't do you want me to I don't know what I want anymore I don't want to make you guys hate us, but these hotel rooms last night that we stayed in oh shit We're gonna keep talking about them dude for the rest of the show We stated at cosino and for some reason they didn't must not have known who we were and then what will accept is very low Because they put us they thought we were too saline deans because they put us in these sweets Karen goes we're all looking on the hallway together and Vince and I like Karen goes in and Vince and I keep walking and we hear her go holy shit And it like echoed and we're like what's going on It was like there was so much marble in one room. I was like is this the Taj Mahal because Oh my god Four TVs four bathrooms two bedrooms heated seats On the toilets is that what toilet seats is what I met where else do you sit in that house am I wrong I actually all admit I just would go and sit on that toilet heated seats and bidet that you could just adjust as you were sitting there where I was like in countries where bidets are normal How do people ever get off these fucking things? I'm sorry, but they're great. I mean They're so great they're great and they had okay This is inappropriate they have - That also a front bidet. - Yeah. - Like, text to you was a pussy bidet. - That's right. - So you're allowed to say it, it's 2018. - Then I got stuck. (audience cheering) - Right, put on your little hat and sit on the bidet. - Oh, last night I was singing she wore a pussy bidet to my head. And I was like, "Charge, what is wrong with you?" (audience laughing) And now I'm singing it on a circular stage. - Yeah. - To paying customers. (audience laughing) - There's not an old couple here who has like seasoned tickets to this theater. (audience laughing) I'm so scared. If that's true, this is a true crime. Uh oh, this is a true crime comedy podcast. - Yeah. - How does that work, Karen? (audience cheering) Oh, thanks. (audience cheering) - Yeah, you don't get to pick one of those things. They've come together. - That's right, it's not your choice. (audience laughing) We can't help it. And if you don't like it, get the fuck out. That's usually what we say. That's, it's rude. (audience cheering) It's rude, but it's what we usually say to everybody. You know, it's a warm-up pillow. - You know, to get the credit on our side. - We just need people to leave. (audience laughing) - And then we cackle into the microphone. Okay, oh, that's not, uh-oh. - Oh, oh no. - Are you kidding me? - No, I saw it. (audience laughing) - I know what you're doing. This is me. - This is me. - This is me, him. And whose water is this? - No. - I think this is mine. - I've only taken a sip of mine. - I keep drinking your drinks. - This is by mine. I think. - No, if this is near my raper. - Okay. - Shit, we should have rehearsed this. I'm so sorry, you guys. I'm so sorry, we both missed rehearsals. - This is the dress rehearsal, right? - This is dress. This is tech dress, and that tomorrow night is the full show. - Yeah, great. - All right. - When I do my hair with an actual curling iron. - Let's sit down. - Okay. Sit down, Tom. (audience cheering) - Currently, oh, I guess that makes sense. If we face it, well. - Face in? - I'm getting a little nauseous, seasick. So this is perfect time to sit down. - I love this rug, I've gotta say. - That's what? - Normally we have-- - Uh-oh. - Normally we have kind of like a rug. - A beige rug. - A beige rug or an oriental rug that looks like someone spent their last $40 at Pier One. But this, do you have Pier One here? - It's a wonderful store, if you don't. Wonderful old European-shipped-in cookies that are from like seven years ago. They're on sale. - Anyway. - I love a pop of color in the middle of a rotating stage. - I do, love it. So everyone knows we're to focus their eyeballs. - That's right. - And we're back. - One of the great memories of this experience for me was that show. - Yeah, definitely. - I loved it. I love like, when there's a theater of something you can talk about and turn back to and point to and make fun of. It's like not make fun of, but just like we're all been on this weird joke. - Yes. - It's the best. - It's an amazing like to walk down the entryway into the audience learning that the stage would be revolving was so hilariously surreal. - I mean, it was perfect for us 'cause it was just so silly and there were so many like gags. I like, I can't believe we just didn't do that the entire show. - I know. I mean, it was hard not to, it was insanity. I think we've already talked about it. We've rewound to this memory about 800 times, I would say. - Did you know that Nate Bergotsie and Tom Siger have both recorded their specials there? - Yeah. - Way after us, of course. - Yes, yeah. It's a famous, I think it's a famous one for comics. I think it's always fun for comics to play in a room like that. It's like, you're so connected. - Yeah. - But also it's like something from the '60s. - It's so cool. - You're doing your show on a lazy season. Who doesn't want to do that? - I was reading about how much you slow Vince and I down at the airport, 'cause you had, we had twisted your ankle, really fucked up. Did you see that couples are now having airport divorces? These Thursday calling them, where you get to the airport and you're like, I'll meet you at the gate, 'cause everyone wants to do something different. But I want to take this that far there and be like, you leave the house whenever the fuck you want to, 'cause Vince is an early guy. I'm a late girl. - Yes. Only now does all of that logic make so much more sense to me when it's like, oh, we have to get there and we have to do, we have to walk out on time and that kind of pressure that people like Vince, like they're responsible, that is the job. So it's like that thing where nobody wants to be on this 7 a.m. flight until you get out and no one else does at 2 p.m. when everything gets shut down. That's happened a bunch of times where you guys have gotten out, right? - Yeah, where we beat the weather for sure. I mean, yeah, we're very much like, what's the earliest we can leave? But how many flights have you missed in your life? I know you missed like, I think there was one on our- - Just one for course. - And it was only two, it was either Seattle or Portland. - Yeah, it was a close, yeah. Oh, but in my life, I'd say around five. - Okay. - Yeah. - I think we should ask listeners, like what's your, people who have more than 10, email us, what's your problem? - That's right. We're the type B friends. Have you seen those videos, the type B friend guy? - No. - I will send it to you right now. It's my favorite and it's so true where it's like, there's the people who were like, basically it's me, he's driving. - He's driving, well, like he's the one that picks the front up in the car and then he's like, oh my God, I can't wait for this vacation. Did you already get your plane tickets? Like stuff like that, but then he's like, oh my God, I just found $500. Like just one of those weird, the people who are just like riding on life and expecting it to work. - Right. - Which is not completely me because I am absolutely like, have my own anxieties and control stuff. But when it comes to traveling, it's always like, this is gonna be a nightmare no matter what. - It's like, it's none of my business. Whatever happens, I'm going with someone else. They know who they're going with. It's none of my business. - Yes, exactly. It is nice, it is nice. - To rely on somebody else to be. Because that's what my sister's always done for me because I've always had the time issue. - Right. - So it's always like 15 minutes and you have to leave this bathroom. It's like, okay, then I just go in. Eyeliner, eyeliner. - Why did you start the eyeliner? (laughs) It's like 15 minutes. - Why have you been doing the eyeliner for 35 minutes? I don't know. - Oh my God, amazing. Should we get into our stories? This is the one I'll never forget it. I actually have seen it on the other day. I couldn't remember the name for thigh. So I called it her upper leg. - That's right. - That's right. (laughs) Okay, everyone, you're going to hear me call. It's just going to be ridiculous. I love that moment. - That was pretty major. Okay, this is Georgia Story about Winnie Ruiz Judd. (audience shouting) - Okay, I'm going first. - Oh, that's right. - Right, that's right, that's right. (audience cheering) - Georgia goes first. - Thank you. - All right. - Okay. - This. - What if this controlled the stage? (laughs) - Like it. A weird bus steering wheel. - Ah, and I want to go to the opposite way. - Yeah. - Teacups. - What? - It's like the teacups. - Teacups. - But really slow. And with microphones. - Phoenix, this is your trunk murders. (audience cheering) - I don't know the trunk murders. - All right, we're trying to remember what photos I-- - There she is. - Oh. - That works. - Assaulted. - Okay. - So that, you're, is your friend Winnie Ruiz McKinnell? She goes by Ruiz. - Sorry, I don't know. - A lot of nicknames. - Real quick. - A lot of nicknames on this one. - I got to take a look at Winnie. - What if she just fucking asked over T-Cattles off the stage? (audience laughing) - I just framed my other ankle, come on. She's doing it for attention. - She has a nice finger wave, am I wrong? - Yes, you were right. - Okay. - Did she the bad one? - Yes, she is. - Maybe. - Oh. - Or maybe not. - Did you just say that was so much anger? - I know. - More alert, I hate everything. (laughing) - Okay, she's born January 29th, 1905 in Indiana. She moves to Phoenix, has an adult after marrying a dude who I'm not gonna mention again. Oh, he's a physician, spent a lot of time on the road and also on morphine. - He said you weren't gonna mention anything about him. - That's all, again. - Oh, he spent time on the road and on morphine? - Yep, I stepped on your joke, I'm sorry. (laughing) - So at 26 years old, a friend Ruth here takes a job as a medical secretary and a Phoenix clinic to support herself, at this time she meets a friend named John J. Hallorin, whose nickname is Happy Jack. (laughing) - I wanted to guess. - Oh, sorry. - I was gonna say jinkies, I don't know why. - Nope. - It's Happy Jack. - Happy Jack Hallorin, so that means he's a drunk, right? (laughing) He's a 44 year old, well to do Phoenix businessmen. He's like in the political and social circles. He's like, "Well, now I'm dead." He's married. But that doesn't stop him from getting laid. - 'Cause he's happy. - He's happy, Jack. (audience laughs) He's so roofed and happy, Jack. Become friendly. They start hooking up. Also, she meets at work. A woman named Agnes and Lee Roy. She's a 32-year-old X-ray technician who worked at the clinic. And her roommate, 24-year-old HeadVig, Samuel Sen. I mean, these are some old fucking fashion names. Who's named Agnes anymore? I hope someone. Yeah. Someone asked a whole LA name their child that, like, there's a four-year-old running around. In whole foods. In whole foods. Aggie, don't touch the kale. What did mommy tell you about the fresh salmon? (laughs) We only eat organic agnes. Okay, she, unfortunately, HeadVig is going by Sammy. So, unfortunately, we don't have that name in our lives. Okay. Any more. I think we have a photo of Happy Jack. (laughs) There he is. (laughs) He seems like a hoot. (laughs) What's up, Jacky Boy? What's up? That's an oval cranium. (audience laughs) Isn't it? Back then, I was, that was an insane slam. You, sir, have an oval cranium. Good day. I said, "Good day." (audience laughs) Thoughts, feelings? Well, I just had, I just thought of last night, we did a story last night where there, it was the Binions murder in Las Vegas. There was somebody in the story, I can't remember who it was, who referred to having sex as laying pipe. Yeah. That's true. But it wasn't us. It was someone truly. It was a direct quote. It was a Wikipedia rip. (laughs) Rips from the Wikipedia. So I was just gonna say, but it's an old reference that some people would get. Which is, that guy lays pipe. (laughs) Apparently, tons of pipes. So much pipe. Yeah. I mean. (laughs) He's like the Department of Energy, that guy. Fucking laying. (laughs) Pipe. (laughs) So Agnes and Sammy are also friendly with our happy friend. And they all become friends. Ruth even moves in with the two women for a couple of months in 1931. They are all like kind of obsessed with happy Jack, financially and emotionally. I don't know man. He took care of them somehow. He gave, he fed needs that, I guess, a physician and morphine addict has been, can't fulfill. (laughs) You check their pulse, but really slow. (laughs) Stuff like that. So, okay, and then they were, but they were all super defensive for Jack's attention. I don't know. Okay, I'll love him. So unfortunately, I wrote, "The women were in his woke as we are today, so differences developed between Ruth and the other two women." I guess it was jealousy over happy. I wrote, this is so stupid. It was reported to be jealousy over happy Jack's happy Jack. That doesn't make any sense. That's stupid. (laughs) Stupid. Cut that out. (laughs) It was there, you got to say it. I mean, I wrote it, like, and I left it in after like 17 reeries. You believed it. I clearly had some fucking thing in my mind. You liked it until you were in the round. Yeah, and then it got scary. Yeah, but I felt like I needed to be honest. Okay, soon. So I can, Ruth got the fuck out of there, moved out into her back into her own apartment close by. Really quick clarification. Let's do this. Yeah. They were all fucking happy Jack. I don't know. It's really hard to tell, like, I think Ruth definitely was fucking happy Jack, I think. Okay. And maybe somebody else. And maybe they were others who were in love. Maybe these two women were in a relationship together. It's kind of hard to tell. Oh, okay. So we don't really know. It's all very vague. And it's like, good close friends. Right. Stuff like that. Exactly. Okay. Okay. I think there's a photo of the two ladies as well. Life-long roommates. Oh, yes. There's the life-long roommates. Agnes Anne, Leroy and Sarah had big family. So Agnes and Anne and Sammy are their names. Agnes and had big come on. Come on, you guys. Those are the best names. Okay. Do-do-do-do-do. Okay. They're not as well. Everyone leaves. Okay. That's not true. Ruth leaves. Okay. But I guess they're all still friends. So here's the story of the murder according to police and prosecutors. It's this. On the night of October 16, 1931, Agnes and Sammy, the roommates, have a heated argument with Ruth over Happy Jack's affection. And then I read all these other articles. And it could also have been over. They were eating rice pudding. Maybe it was about the rice pudding. I don't know. It's really hard to tell. All we know is there was a fight about a thing. And there was rice pudding. Oh, for real? Yeah. Oh. That's all we know. Was this on a recipe website? Did you got this story? A story? Stir in three tablespoons of murder. Hate. So they all get in a fight. Ruth fucking. And it was grabs a gun. I guess it was her gun that she had left behind for some reason. And they start fighting. And Ruth shoots Agnes and Sammy with a 25 caliber handgun in there in the bungalow. She fucking kills both of those ladies right there. You said she shot them in the bungalow. I knew that would be weird. That was an old-fashioned way to say. Right in the bungalow. Right in the front door of the bungalow. Okay. So then Ruth and maybe an accomplice dismember the body of Sammy. Okay, it gets gross. Put her head, torso, and lower legs into a black shipping trunk. And Sammy's upper legs in a beige, valise, and hat box. So this fucking little. Did you just call her arms her upper legs? Because that's rad. Did you? No. No. You used other legs? Upper legs. Thighs. I can't be the best in it. You have got to proofread. Her upper leg. Did you know you have your legs? But then if you pull on them, more leg comes out. Okay, that the extra leg was in the other trunk. I wish I had called arms upper legs so bad. I'm so mad that I didn't do that. Next time. I'm crying. Don't cry in the round. Oh, good lord. There's no crying in the round. My leg. No, it wasn't her upper legs. Who wrote this? It wasn't me. Her head, torso, and lower legs. And then her upper legs. Yeah, where the fuck is the rest of her body? There's not a ton of body left after that. Neck? Where's the neck? Where did they put that fucking neck? Listen, I want to know. We are professional. I can't tell you how badly there's two microphones on the ground right there, like for the hometown. And I just want to lay down and start telling my story. You know what? I'm so bad. Just take a rest. You can. Stretch your upper legs out and just take a rest. You got to. Take some mute time. We are on the first page of this. We just fucking started. Yeah. The people working here texting their honey. It's going to be a long night baby. I'm not going to get home by 330. I'm not going to make it. Sorry. Sorry. It's just these two fucking women. You know. Okay, everything. Okay, and then Agnes' body. I feel like Ruth, after dismembering Sammy's body, he's like, fuck this shit. And she puts Agnes' whole body into a second black shipping trunk. I mean, it's hard to get a bunch of stuff done at once anyway. It had to be, like, there had to be an accomplice, right? She's like a little thing and she's dismembering. I don't know. By or so. I mean, I would hope so just for the impact alone of just, I mean. Probably not. Okay, sorry. We lost you, didn't we? So maybe happy Jack who's there, right? Sure. So two days later, so the bodies are in the thing. Two days later, on Sunday, October 18th, 1931, Ruth, whose left hand was bandaged from apparently a gunshot wound sustained during the fight. So she's got a fucking bullet in her hand. And she's just out of the bodies? No, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that's the little crazy. It would take forever. Just going on how long it takes me to get around the airport. It would take a really fucking long time. You'd dismember a body with a shot hand. I also like the idea that happened in the house. Yeah, it was just like gunfight in the house. Uh-huh. Okay. The house still stands. Is this true? Yeah, on the bus. Let's drive to a house and then just drive away because you can't go inside. Someone lives there. They're like raising children and they have a life. They don't want you there. Duh, duh, duh, okay. So with her hand and her luggage, she boards a train from Phoenix to Los Angeles. She gets to Los Angeles the next morning. The baggage agent at the train is like, "Why the fuck are there fluids escaping these packages?" And oh my God, it also stinks. That is not a direct quote. I wrote that. (audience laughs) - You are taking real liberties with this story. - I am paraphrasing. - So sorry, the trunks arrive in LA and there's fluid coming out of them? - And they smell. - No, cool. - 'Cause it's been three or four days now. So he's like, "I'm gonna tag these and move these aside." - It's fine. - He asks Ruth for the key and she's like, "I don't have it, bye." (laughs) And so her brother picks her up and she disappears. Her brother doesn't know anything about the crimes and leaves the trunks behind. Later that day, police came to the train station to check out the trunks. They cracked the lock and they discovered the bodies. There is a photo of it online. - Don't worry, I didn't post it. I don't know if it's real, it looks real. - And it's them looking into a trunk with a dead body inside. - Oh shit, it's just the body. It's fucked up. - Okay. - I have seen some things. This was back when the police, when a crime would happen, someone would be murdered, right? And then they're laying their dead and then the police would gather around and then they'd be like, "Oh, wait, sorry." - Hey, reporters, get in here. - It's not investigating a crime. Come on. - Hold on, let me look smart. - Oh, hey, I think we have a photo of the trunks, though. And don't worry, I don't think the bodies are, yeah, they're there. - Oh. - Ooh, they look old, tiny. - They look like something that'd be on sale at a store in Beverly for like $4,000. - Oh, totally. - Yeah. - Fucking out of it. - And it's like, repurposed trunks. - Per fourth out of it. - Fuck everything. - Okay, okay. So they're like, "Oh shit, they found the bodies." Okay, but so after leaving the station, Ruth hid out for several days. It's still with a fucking bullet in her hand. It's now turning into gangrene, sure. Yeah. And she then finally is like, this isn't working, surrender to the police on October 23rd, 1931. - This isn't working. (laughing) - Does she like, tries to take a handful of grapes or whatever, and they just keep falling through the hole? This is insane. I can't live like this anymore. (laughing) 9-1-1. You're emergency. - Well, okay. - I need grapes. - Okay. - I'm starving for grapes. - The murder is like crazy headlines across the country. They call her the tiger woman and the blonde butcher. And eventually the case comes to be known as the trunk murders and she's the trunk murderous. Here's a photo of her when she turned herself in. - How fucking glamorous. - Oh my God. - Is this real? - It looks like the remake in the '70s of her. - Doesn't it? Can you see it? - Yeah, I can see it. - I can see it, but also-- - So you have to get up. - From here, it's okay. From here, it looks like her head is so much bigger than her body that it looks like one of those illustrations. You get a Disneyland where you're like, I like skateboarding and horses or whatever. And then your head is like this and your body's this big skateboarding. Anyway, hold on. - This is weird. - This is real quick. - I don't want to watch you watch. - I have to get lazy, that's what right now. - That's-- - First of all, does she have a fox stole on her shoulder? - Yes, because she fucking stole that fox stole-- - Yes, she did. - From this like place she went to to hide out. - That's for real? - Yeah. - Oh, that's factual? - Yeah. - I mean, that sounded like total bullshit. Well, I blamed the one article I read that in, then. - On upperlegs.com. (laughing) - Upper legs. - Upper legs. - God, damn it. Okay. (laughing) Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. - So that's her showing up at the police station, like, oh, I did it. - Yeah. - And I'm here to say I did it. - Yeah, and my hand hurts. - Maybe it smells. - Okay, so this my Phoenix police had already found the crime scene at the bungalow. And at that point, neighbors and reporters had been like, dude, dude, dude, all over the like stomping on everything in the crime scene. As they, do you know how they always do that? - Yeah. - It's after police invite reporters in, and they used to be like, now let's get the neighbors. They're street. Okay, now the next street will go south. - Yeah, we're in any more footprints on the walls, please. - Is there any children that want to see this murder up close? - Let's get them in front. - Touch everything, please. Okay, so in fact, a day after the crime scene was found, the bungalow's the landlord put an ad in the newspaper. And I'm gonna guess it was like, three tours of the bungalow for 10 cents per race. Three tours. No, that's not a free tour. Tours of the bungalow for 10 cents a piece. - That's right. That doesn't, there you go. But over the next three weeks, hundreds of curiosity seekers, AKA like an old-timey murdering house, right? - That's right. - Oh, we've been around for a long, long time. - Murdering house. There hasn't been a murdering house. I just stole your bit. - You gotta do it. - I was emulating you. - No, it's stolen from one million other people. - Good, the haunted prospector is a bit that's been around for generations. (laughing) - Okay, so then the police theorized that Agnes and Sammy were shot while asleep also. They weren't really sure. The mattress is like one disappeared, one was found with no blood stains on it, though, so clearly that's not what happened. At her trial in 1932, the dismemberment aspect of the double sling is never addressed in court because Ruth was tried only for the murder of Leroy, whose body was not dismembered, and never tried for the murder of Sammy for some reason. Happy Jack was present at the trial every day, but never spoke on record and was never called as a witness. And people think it's because he had a lot of connections in the scene. - Oh yeah, I saw it soon. - Yeah. - This way. - Yeah, three-pieceer. - Or maybe anything to do with it. I don't fucking know. Okay, the state argued that she acted the pre-meditation and that she inflicted the gunshot wound to her hand to try to bolster her claim of self-defense, but then I'm like, well, why run then? If you were like, boom, I shot my hand. Now let me chop the bodies, have them leave. - Yeah, you know. - And get gangrene. This is the perfect alibi. (laughing) So on February 8th, 1932, Ruth is found guilty and sentenced to die by hanging. - Whoa, in LA? - No, we're in Phoenix. - Oh, okay, no, don't worry, we're-- - We would never. (laughing) - We're not like that. - We're in LA, we're so decent. (laughing) So, oh, she was sentenced to die on Good Friday, your friends with that day. - We love that day and Catholicism, we made it up. (laughing) - But finally, at that one, she was like, all right, fuck this shit, I'm not getting fucking hung. She told her lawyer she wants, I want to talk. And that Jack, happy Jack, had told her to exon, had told her that to exonerate her something of something. (laughing) That if she agreed that they had said that it was her fault, and an accident, she would have gotten off, so don't say that I was involved, basically. So Jack was like, I was involved, but say I wasn't, and everything will be fine. - Oh, right. - But she was like, guess what, he was involved. - But her death sentence is overturned after a 10 day hearing because they found her now mentally incompetent. I think she acted crazy, or she was crazy, maybe. Let's see here. So then it's discovered that, I'm sorry, doot, doot, doot, okay. So he's indicted, then happy Jack's indicted as an accomplice to murder with Ruth as the star witness. So she's like, I'm testifying, bitch. - Against him? - Uh-huh. - Are the love of her life? - Oh yeah, okay, no, that's her husband. - Was it? - I don't know. I think he's stuck by her side, actually. He was like, I'll be here on morphine if you need me. - Poor guy. - Poor guy, he's just in the courtroom shooting up. I'm a doctor. She said, I'm gonna be hanging for something. Jack hella rent is responsible for. I was convicted of murder, but shot in self-defense. Um, and then she said he removed all the evidence and he's responsible for the whole thing. Like sending her, he told her exactly what to do. Um, and then so she testified that she had gone over to their house on an invitation to play bridge and basically killed them both in self-defense after they all fought and the women physically attacked her. - Because of bridge. (laughing) - No, because of rice pudding. Oh right, right, right. So she said then, then happy Jack came over, took care of everything and then like told her what to do. So on January 25th, 1933, the judge freed happy Jack, saying the state's case was inconsistent. And so her death sentence of return, she's committed to the state's only mental institution, the Arizona State Asylum for the Insane in Phoenix. - Oh. - Oh, we have a bus, bus in. (laughing) - From the asylum. - They can discount tickets to the celebrity theater. - Welcome. - I don't think it's called that anymore, unfortunately. - She escaped from, can I just ask a question? - Yeah. - This is the worst idea, but I'm gonna ask the audience a question anyway. Is that place haunted? Is that why people are cheering? - Thank you, stop talking. (laughing) - That's how to do it. - Right? - Go open the door and I slam it in your face. (laughing) - So she escapes, so Ruth goes away. She escapes from the institution between 1933 and 1963, between 30 years of staying there. She escapes six times. - Yes. (laughing) - Partly because they gave her a key, 'cause everyone liked her. (laughing) (audience laughing) And in fact, she got so good at finger waves. She was like, how you mentioned her finger waves? She was the finger wave queen, and like people in society would come to the institution to get finger waves from her. - No, yeah. Do you think, and I know this is wrong to ask, could she have been using the hole in her hand as the finger wave? (audience laughing) You don't know, you weren't there. (audience laughing) Hold on, stand still. (audience exclaiming) - No, no, no. - No, no. - Mrs. Crabapple, stay still. (audience laughing) Two more. (audience laughing) I don't know what, turns out so good, I just don't care. (audience laughing) 23s can do. (audience laughing) I can't remember, is that what, are we talking about the 30s? - Yes. - Okay. So in one instance, she and she escaped. She walked all the way from Yuma, Arizona, to the old Southern Pacific Railroad track, along the old Southern Pacific Railroad tracks. - Yes. - And all over her shoulder. (laughs) I don't know. She escaped for the final time on October 8th, 1963, and Limpin San Francisco for six years. Holy shit. (audience laughing) She started the hippie movement. (audience laughing) - Hey, yeah. - Using a fake name and worked as a living maid for a wealthy family. Her identity was eventually discovered because her fucking shitty nephew, who helped her escape, was like, give me money or I'm fucking turning you in. And I'm paraphrasing and I don't know. - No, that's a quote from Wikipedia. - And she was like, fuck you, my nephew, and he was like, turned her in. - Wow. - Apparently. - That's what I read. - I just, I have to say, I just had a moment of fear because my grandmother was a living maid and nanny for rich people. - What if it was, hold on a second. What if it all comes together tonight in Phoenix? (audience laughing) - I thought of that. - It's amazing. (audience cheering) - We like, put that picture up again and then I have to go really close. - Hold on. - Maybe they work together, though. I have the name of the city, but I don't remember it. Let's find out. - Okay. - San Francisco? (audience laughing) - Yeah. I met, like, the area. - Oh, oh, yeah. - But I said city. - Pacific Heights? - Yeah. - Okay, so her identity-- - So her identity - Neighborhoods, the mission? - Yes. - Her identity is eventually discovered. She's taken back to Arizona in 1969. She hires attorneys, basically she's paroled and released on December, in December of 1971. And she moves to Stockholm, California. - Stockton? (audience laughing) - I'm with you. It's you and me, baby, it's you and me. (audience cheering) - I am not drunk, I am not a fucking, I have. - She has not a touch of anything as far as we know. (audience laughing) - It's vodka. - Give it to me. (audience laughing) - It's getting started. - It's getting started. - It's Stockholm. (audience laughing) - I actually suffer from Stockton's syndrome. - Damn it, you had it. - I can do it. - I can do it, it's good. - 'Cause I am very drunk. (audience laughing) - In 1993, Arizona issued her an absolute discharge, meaning she's no longer a paroli. She died in October of 1998, at the age of 93. - Fuck. - Yeah. - How badly did he eat? - Yeah, she's, there's something going on there. - The other is. - Eventually there is a confession letter written in Ruth's hand to her attorney, and it's, she says it's her first and only confession. She stated that she alone planned and carried out the murders with whom, and it was because she and Leah were allegedly competing for happy Jack's affection. And she stated that she had not planned to kill Sammy, but did so after Sammy had heard the gunshot and walked into the murder scene and began fighting with Ruth. And she acted alone and the whole thing. And yeah, the letter had gotten suppressed, but it eventually came out. And that's, and oh. - So she, she really did it? Like she confessed? - I don't, I don't know. - It's hard to say, it's hard to say. 'Cause that could have been really satisfying as an ending. - I know. - Yes. (audience laughing) - But then yes. - I think, I think she gotten a fight accident, not accidentally, shot them, and then happy Jack helped her do all this shit. - Yeah, he eventually fell out of favor with the local Phoenix population. Wonder why, slept with too many wives. - Ah, this city was literally filled with pipe. There was so much, it was everywhere. You can walk, the courses were falling down or what have you. (audience laughing) - And he died in Tucson in 1939. Yeah. And the letter was anonymously donated to the Arizona State Archives, the confession letter. - Oh wow. - That Arizona Phoenix, especially, is your trunk murder. - trunk murder. (audience cheering) - That was great. - Thank you. The best part of these murders in these cities is that for the rest of my life, people are gonna come up to me and say, "You know, my grandma knew Ruth and here's what really happened." And then they give you these little tidbits of information that you're just like, "Fuck, after the fact." - Yeah. - But you're like, "Oh my God, I would have never known." It's really cool. - It happens in the VIP line all the time. Where people come up, they're like, "Oh, you know the one thing about your thing?" And it's like, "Oh, the thing that would have made it great." Thanks. - Call it the meet and greet line, or we sound like assholes. - Oh, that's true. - The VIP line. - Oh, you know what I mean? - Yeah, but we hand out champagne, and everybody gets a car. (audience laughing) - Right. Okay, we're back. Are there any updates? - Actually, yes. In 2024, the Phoenix Theater Company, which is a professional theater company, based in Phoenix, obviously, premiered a play based on this case called The Truth About Winnie Ruth Judd. And that same year, also 2024, best-selling writer and Arizona native Lori Nataro published a deep dive book on the case called The Murderous A Novel. So that sounds really cool. - That's awesome. - Totally. - All right, and then let's get ready for Karen to blow everyone's fucking mind when she announces and does the story of Jody Areas. (audience cheering) - I just wanna say that I'm feeling even more disoriented being on a spinning stage. And I want you guys to know that I'm using you as my marker of where we are. - Who? - Who said it? - Because of your beautiful hair and dresses. - Oh. - That every time, I mean, you're all great. Everyone's great, but every time you come around, I'm like, okay, I'm home. - All right, everything's okay. - Is it 'cause you can't see anything but bright colors? - I can't see anything. I love bright colors, I love my little pony. - I'm just wondering, I don't know where we came in. - Yeah, I don't think it's, you know what? - It's gone now. (audience laughing) A thing came down, it's gone. We can't go back out that way. (audience laughing) - We have to climb out of here, Steve Austin style. But my upper legs are so weak. My upper legs can't take the climb. (audience laughing) - All right. - Okay. - Well, I hope you would all know that the one thing I would do if I come to Phoenix is the Jody Areas. (audience cheering) And again, for people, if this is your first time or you bought tickets on a whim, on a dare, we're not cheering for Jody Areas. (audience laughing) That's not what's happening, it seems like that's what's happening. If you were not to investigate it, that is what just happened. But it isn't really what's happening, not really. - If you were on Twitter and saw the headline of that, which just happened, you would write a mean thing without reading the article. - That's right. - That you would be wrong. - That's right. - But it doesn't matter. And here's the funniest part of her and for me, I really didn't like this when it was happening real time. So I never checked into this time. I never paid attention to it or listened to it. Because to me, it just seemed like it had become this, five times worse than the O.J. trial type of thing where they're like, okay, hot girl, committed murder. Let's just talk about all these dirty things. And that's really kind of what it was. But, you know, if you boil it down, but it's a pretty fucking incredible story. So most of this information is from a timeline that a guy named David Law wrote for the Huffington Post. But I also watched a two-part snap on ID. (audience laughing) They had to give her a two-parter. She's so legendary. And then of course, I watched the superb made for TV movie, "Jody Aureus Dirty Little Secret." (audience cheering) Incredibly. - Who plays her? - Oh, I'm glad you asked. A woman named Tanya Raymond, who was fucking excellent. I'm not being sarcastic. She plays "Jody Aureus" with this complete, like she's like sexy with dead eyes, which is one of the scariest things that you can do to a person. It's just be like, I'm super into you, but you have like doll eyes. - Ted Bundy. - Well, so see, Ted Bundy. And she's really gorgeous, and she just is kind of like always, just low-level, kind of manipulating everybody all the time. And she also is used to getting what she wants, obviously, so when somebody's like, "No thanks," she Bundy kicks it into overdrive. So our girl, Tanya Raymond, nailed it. - Good for her. - Yeah, she was very good. Anyhow. So also a lot of us, oh, there she is. That's the real "Jody Aureus" as a blonde. You might not recognize her, that's not courtroom Jodie. When Jodie. He went librarian for the court to prove that she was, I don't know, smart or normal. Is that what she always normally looked like? Well, she started out as kind of a, but she had blonde hair for a while and then she goes brunette. By the time she has a mug shot, she has a brunette hair. She kind of looks like my sister-in-law. Is that weird? That's great. Yolanda? She does look like a Yolanda. [LAUGHTER] OK. On June 9, 2008, a woman named Mimi Hall, who was friends with Travis Alexander, is worried about him because he has not answered his phone or showed up for work for days, for five days. And she and all their friends were planning on going on a trip to Cancun and it was the next day. And so they were trying to get a hold of him to make plans about this trip. And he wasn't answering anybody's calls. So finally, she called a bunch of the friends and said, let's go to his house and check in on this, because this is really weird and it's not like him at all. So they get to the house. And he was a very successful businessman. He was 30 years old, but he had a 4,000-square-foot house. He had drove a BMW. He was doing very, very well for himself. But he did have a roommate, I think a couple of roommates in his house. And so when the friends showed up, they were like, he's Travis here, and the friends go, no, he went on a trip to Cancun, which how fucking scary would that be when you're the person going on the trip with him? And we were like, no, that's tomorrow. So they all realized something terrible is happening. And so they go to check his room. And when they go into his room, it is a fucking blood bath. His dead body is in his shower. And the bathroom is covered in blood. There's blood everywhere, and there's up to six feet on the walls. And there's a bloody palm print, very clearly on one of the walls. His body is-- he was stabbed 27 times in the back. His throat was slit, and then he was post-mortem shot in the head. What the fuck? Yeah, so just fucking overkill like crazy. So also, his body had been sitting there for between four to five days. So it was an in-advanced state of decomposition. So this fucking friends found him like, it's horrifying. So they call 911, and when they explain what's going on, and the police are out in their way, one point the 911 operator asks this girl who called Mimi. She goes, does he have any enemies? Do you have any idea of who could be responsible for this? And she goes, yes, his ex-girlfriend, Jody. On the 911 call. No way. Yeah, so all the friends, of course, didn't like her. They went out for almost two years, and they're-- of course, it was like, why are you dating this girl type of thing the whole time? So when the cops are investigating the house, nothing is out of place, nothing is taken, nothing's missing, nothing's even disturbed. And that's why the roommate's thought he was gone, because nothing had been used. There's, like, the house was perfectly clean. When they check the washing machine, they find a digital camera inside, and it had been run through the rinse cycle. But the cops take it, and they give it to the lab, I don't know, the digital camera lab. And they're like, see what you can pull off of this thing. So a bit of background. This all started in September of 2006. So Travis, Alexander, met Jody Areas at a work conference in Las Vegas. They both worked for a company called Prepaid Legal Services. And it's described as a multi-layered marketing firm. Red flag, we all know. Right? And the thing they described, I think it was on Snap. They were like kind of like Amway. And I was like, uh-huh. So she had just gotten hired there. And this conference was basically all the top sellers. And it's like a bunch of motivational seminars where they're like, here's how you can sell too. Because you're special, and you can do. And it's like, what is it? It's some kind of weird legal insurance, something? So it's very specific. But in the film, Jody Areas, "Dirty Little Secret," he's kind of presented as almost like a motivational speaker. And she's sitting in, she just started there. She's sitting in the crowd watching him. And she's immediately into him. She was like, right off. Go question, what's the dirty little secret that she's fucking crazy? Because it's not a secret that she killed. I really think that the name would be Jody Areas fucking crazy, bitch. I don't know. Like something, it's not a secret. It may have been that he benched because he was like a good boy. He was very active in the Mormon church. Guys, you get up and do stuff. I won't be able to focus, because as I said already, you're leaving? OK, you'll be there. OK, good. You know what? You tell people you need them, and they're thinking, go. Call a gram of Karen's therapist comes up. Michelle. Can you hear me, Michelle? I will always be here for you. It's whatever it is just me being a puppet. Let's get a therapy sock. If I put it far enough away from your face, you won't be able to tell. That's right. I think she's really here. She's in the 10th row. Um, I interrupt to do. No, it's OK. So the dirty little secret. No, no, I have to tell you now. Because he was very active in the Mormon church, and so he dated her, but everyone's like, why? And then he would break up with her, and then they'd get back together secretly, and it was all that kind of DL type of stuff. Got it, the dirty little. She herself was the dirty little secret. Oh, look inside yourself and find. Why am I the dirty secret? I'm the dirty secret all along. OK, so Jody, at the time, lived in California. She lived in Palm Desert. In Jody RS, dirty little secret, there is a scene where she comes on to him after he gives his speech. And she's just like, I just really like put your talking about this. And it is so embarrassing. Like, she goes so full-core press on him. I was like, Jody, no. Oh, like, to the TV. My cheeks got red in the living room. I was like, she is going for it. And he says no thanks, because he doesn't believe in pre-marital sex. OK. But, and then she's like, well, maybe this or that, or whatever, and this is in the film. And then he goes, and really, I just want to get to know you. And then she's like, hard eyes. Yeah. But crazy ones. The hearts have hands. Show them. Because it's good. It's good. Hey, man. And so, from that point on, they spoke every day. Court records would later show that the couple exchanged 82,000 emails. Oh, fuck. 82,000 emails. I don't even think Vince. And I have said 82,000 words to each other. You're married. And we really like each other. Yeah. Also, how did they sign them? Was it best? Did they change it every time? Sincerely yours? Yeah. That's a great question. So many questions. She would drive out. She was the one going driving from Palm Desert to Mesa to come and visit him all the time. And essentially, what I inferred from the film "Jody Areas" "Dirty Little Secret" was because he didn't believe in "Driving." "Driving." "Driving." [LAUGHTER] I have this-- yeah. No. He didn't believe in caring about her at all and putting in the most basic fuck. I am not touching him. Yeah, you know. We're not, we're not. I'm not. OK, so essentially, they're hooking up. She thinks she's going to like, you know, get him under her spell or whatever. But he wants to keep it chill. She's always kind of trying to push it a little bit more or whatever, and he's like, mm, that's OK. So she comes up with a plan. So in November of the year, this is two months after they meet. OK. She decides to convert to Mormonism. OK. Two months. Two months. No. I don't think the term "Mormonism" works. I don't think you're going to just be like me. Yep. That seems interesting. Yeah. Golden glasses, you say? Is that the one with the Salamander? We talked about that. It's about 24 Davids in the snakes. Maybe we shouldn't get into this. Maybe we shouldn't make up things about religion. You don't know anything about it. You know, let's do it. Highly disrespectful manner. Yeah, we might as well. So I mean, there's must have been some good emails because she converts to his religion. I just can't get over that. And he-- like, there's a scene in the film-- Jodi Arya's "Durry Little Secret," where his friends are like, dude, she's converting that's insane. And he's like, I mean, isn't this what we do? We're out and we're on our missions. And we're trying-- we want to get people to join the church. Especially-- I mean, I don't know how it wasn't real life. But in this film, he just seems so casual and laid back all time. He's always kind of treating her like, OK, whatever. So this didn't scare the living shit out of him, which it absolutely should have. If there's ever been a red flag in the world, it's someone converting to your religion two months after you first took out. Just a note, maybe I'm being judgmental. You guys are being very quiet right now. (audience laughing) That's all right. Okay. So it thinks then it's three more months after she converts to his religion that they start officially dating. So he really waits it out and then he's finally like, fine, we can go out and pull it together and take pictures and stuff. So that's what they do. They actually go on a bunch of trips and I think we do have a picture of them together. They traveled a lot and I think with for their work, he traveled a lot so she would go with them. In the film, Jodie Arias, Jodie Little Secret. - Oh, we were all holding our breath. Hoping you would say it. - Hoping I'd say a different movie. - No, no. (audience laughing) There's this horrifying scene where he's having a barbecueder out at his house and she's basically trying to play the wife. So she's like, I redecorated. Do you want to try some of my home in Lennonade? And you're just like, no, no, none of this. And all the friends are like, so are you guys gonna get married or is of what's happening? And he's like, no, no, she's just excited or whatever. And in the film, she overhears them and then she's like, oh, I'm just your side piece. And he's kind of like, oh yeah, I mean. (audience laughing) But he, so basically, she was super crazy possessive. She didn't like him talking to other women. She didn't like that he had female friends and she checked, she looked at his phone all the time. She checked his email all the time. But he thought it was cute. He liked that she was obsessed with him. Oh, sorry, sorry, the next picture we have? Oh. (audience cheering) Oh, like he, no. Your job now, Phoenix, is to go out to the thrift stores in this state. Could you imagine if you found that fucking shirt at like a St. Vincent de Paul. You're just like, that's a fucked up shit. I'm telling you, this is the kind of thing we're like, in sixth grade, I would get an idea like this. And I'd be like, hey, to my sister, I'd be like, sit down, I've to tell you something. (audience laughing) I've never put a guy's name on your shirt. I mean, all right. So, she basically confronts them and says, are you serious about me? And he's like, I'm not, I'm 30. I'm not like looking for marriage right now. And essentially, like, and that's not really what we're doing or how I see it. Right. So after four months of dating, they break up. And of course, Jody does what anyone would do when a guy breaks up with her. She moves to his town. So she picks up from Palm Desert and goes ahead and moves to Mesa. You know, 10 minutes away from his house. And he starts hooking up with her again. Always a great idea. If you go through a breakup, go straight back to that person that you hate as quickly as you can and fuck them. Behind her friends back. Make sure you don't tell anyone. Yeah, it's great. Great idea. So, but again, like as I was watching the film, Jody Arias turned a little secret. Like I kept thinking, this guy is 30 years old. Like it doesn't make sense. It's someone that's totally like clocked on him and then just been like, we are making this happen. I was in a relationship like that in high school. We were fucking bananas. High school? Yeah. You know, just crazy people who do crazy things and it's cute. Where you're like, we're gonna be married and we're gonna be together forever. Right, but in high school? Yeah. Wow. Is that weird? We met in rehab. (audience laughs) Is that weirder? No. Yes. Our song was a slayer song. (audience laughs) There's so much more I could say. Do it. No. (audience laughs) That's true love. (audience laughs) You heard a dance. Oh, slayer. Honey. Do you hear? (audience laughs) Okay. So December 2007, which is, you know, December of that year, he decides that his, this part of his life is not good for him and he needs to start dating women that he wants to marry. He needs to be more in line with his beliefs and stop fucking around. So he asks out a girl that's at his church that's a friend of his and what he doesn't know, they start dating and he's super into it and Jodi, who still lives in Mesa, followed them on their dates and took pictures of them from across the street. And she was fine with it, right? She was totally fine with it. She's just checking on their dates. She's checking. Hope it's all right. Is the date happening? Now I know it's happening. (audience laughs) And then pictures, of course, too. She slashed his tires twice. Oh, she slashed the dates tires once? Well, then they're just stuck together longer. Yeah, you know what I mean? She's not thinking it through. She's acting from the heart. Does that make me crazy? That's a mistake. 'Cause then they can't leave. That's right. You get one of those cards toed. Right. And then make them go to the impound lot. She got really good at breaking into his house. She would, there was a sliding glass door that she knew that he never locked and she would go in that way. She also would climb in the doggie door, which is, I feel like if you were home alone and you were just kind of like, can you imagine it in the middle of the head? (audience laughs) Why do you like him this much? (audience laughs) What happened? Fuck, you're not winning him back this way. See yourself, see, objective witness. (audience laughs) Closes are. Just like trying to push that plastic flap up. It's all dirty. Fucking dirty dog paws. Honey. Honey. Honey. Honey. Okay, so one time, this is my favorite thing this whole fucking game. One time he found her hiding behind his Christmas tree. (audience cheers) Oh, the visual, the visual. Even as a Jew, I see how fucking creepy that is. (audience laughs) It would be like, if someone put a menorah on their head, I have to translate everything to you. Oh, okay, I get it. Do you get it? I get it now. So disrespectful, anyway. (audience laughs) But also, the moment after, just think about that, where you're hiding behind the guy you love's Christmas tree, because he's not dating you anymore. So you're like, (audience laughs) Oh, he doesn't, and then he's like, Jodie, and then you're like, (audience laughs) Hey. (audience laughs) Hi. What's, where'd you get this wrapping paper back out through the dog door? (audience laughs) She only enters an exit to South through the dog door. (audience laughs) So. In an upsetting case, it's one of the most upsetting aspects. One of them. To me. His family's all sitting on the couch drinking eggnog. So that's the new girl in your life, okay. (audience laughs) In the film. (audience laughs) Jodie Arya, Stardola's secret. (audience laughs) He comes home one time, and this seems like bullshit to me, and I couldn't find it in any of the timelines or real things. It's very hollywood too, but I also, it's so creepy, 'cause it would make sense. She was a photographer. That was like a big interest of hers, and I was like, "I think she did." And she did take pictures of him on dates with other girls. There's one scene. He comes home with the girl he's on the date with, and he looks, and there's a wall covered in the collage of them on dates. Ew. Yeah. But that's so creepy that I'm like, that seems hollywood style. They're being symbolic. They're like, here's basically what it was like. This is how, this is like homeland style craze. There's red string attached to all the pictures for no reason. Do you see how this date is connected to this date? Okay. So on April 20th, 2008, apparently, so they, after all of that insanity, he was like, this is crazy, and this is too much, you have to get out of my life. Well, then, it's like a couple months later, he sent her a text saying, "I'm at a nightclub right now, "and it helped me to come to the conclusion "that you're one of the prettiest girls on the planet." Oh. I think he had the thing where, maybe he wasn't the great, like, the most solid drunk in the world. So he'd get, like, he drinks like three dosakis, and he's like, I gotta text some shit, you know what I mean? Like, couldn't handle his shit. It seemed like. 'Cause he would kind of get back into it with her, 'cause it was convenient, and I think she was manipulating him sexually, obviously. Right. Do you just start going the other way? Okay, thank you. I thought I was, the seizure had started. Oh, we count, we're now we're counting clockwise? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're clockwise. This is just like a long one of those- long table games where they try to show you, like, trick you into which marbles. Under me? I already lost $200 at this show. Okay, so basically, all of this shit happens and then at the end, you know, the sexting goes on for a couple months and then in the first week of June of 2008, Travis tells his friends that he found out that Jody broke into his Facebook and that's when he said, "Get out of my life." Facebook's the end game? Facebook was the fuckin' pineapple straw. Not the house. Not the house. Not the dog door. Not the fuckin' Christmas tree. Facebook. All right. So, on June 2nd, 2008, Jody Arias rented a car from budget rent a car in Reading, California. So she's from Waireka. Oh, Reading is up there. All of Norway, Northern California, it's a very scary place. Be careful when you go there. So she rents a car from there and then they also later found receipts where she had bought gas cans in, I believe it was in Reading also, that she had in the car. So she then drives, she arrives at Travis's house on June 4th, 2008. Is it your birthday? Or do you just think words are sexy? Either way, God bless you. So she shows up and she's like, "I miss you," and you know, blah, whatever. And then he goes, the girl he had been dating, they had just broken up. So he's like, "Why don't you come in so I can talk to you about my feelings." And of course, they start having sex. Now in the film, Jodie or Zaryla Zegra, "Foiled." So they have sex and then she starts taking pictures. They start taking pictures of each other in bed because photography is her interest as she has shown everyone. He gets up to go take a shower. He's in the bathroom. And in the film, Jodie or Zaryla Zegra, is she? And I couldn't find any proof that this is actually how it happened. So this, again, could be the Hollywood version. But she basically sees on his phone that he just broke up with, is trying to talk to him. And she, as him, is like, "I'm with Jodie now." And then she's like, basically like that dumb slut or whatever. And then she goes crazy and is like, telling this girl, the girl basically says a bunch of shit like, "But you said that she was just a side piece that never meant anything to you and dead and all this shit." So the next thing that they know it happens is she goes into the bathroom with the camera and she's taking pictures of him in the shower. And she's like, "Yeah, you look so sexy or whatever." Basically, she takes a picture of him that there was a picture and you can see it online and I'm sure you've already seen it, especially because if you're from here, it's him looking straight into the camera, like, wet from the shower. And then she told him to turn around, she was like, taking pictures of him back, and that's when she stopped him. Now, the craziest fucking part is, okay, so basically she stops and kills him. And then three days later, June 7th, she returns the budget rental car in Redding, California. She had put 2,834 miles on it and what they figured out later was she bought those gas cans. So that she could get gas and keep it so that no one could prove that she was ever in Arizona. So a week after that, she posts on MySpace, a photo gallery that's like in loving memory of Travis. And the hometown, the chick was like, "You know, she had dated my ar-brothers, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah." And she took pictures with the brothers. She took pictures and shared with the brothers, was obsessive about them. The night before she had to go, she was hanging out at a bar or a back home in Puerto Rico. That's right. Didn't know it was said that way. And the brother was like, "Come on with me." And she was like, "I can't. I got to wake up early to go, to get questioned by these investigators. My ex died." Yeah. Fucking creepy shit. And then starts telling all the details of it where this guy's trapped at a bar, like, "I thought we were trying to play pool," and she's like, "And then, and then." So she goes into the police station and voluntarily gives her fingerprints and her DNA to the police. She told the detective that she talked to, that she and Travis had had a romantic relationship, but they had broken up and she hadn't seen him since she moved out of Arizona in April. So while they're waiting for the lab tests to come back, they, the people that were working on, recovering that the chip in the camera, they're like, "And maybe, maybe this is because it's in a movie." Like, yeah, that doesn't make a ton of sense. You get swabbed for DNA and then they put that in the microwave for five minutes and then over here, this evidence comes in, but basically it all came in at the same time in real like it did. The people that were working on the camera, memory chip, found a series of photos. So it's all the nude photos of them in bed and all of it is timestamped. So she's like, "I haven't seen him since April," well, this says June 4th. And it's them in bed naked and then it's him in the shower. And then there are these pictures that are like fuzzy that they had to work on. And they have a picture of her hand cleaning up the blood with his body in the background. So she accidentally took pictures of herself at the scene with the body, placing herself at the scene. "What the f--?" "Uh-huh?" "You see the picture, Stephen and I had to look for it today, and we couldn't find it and we saw so many terrible things." "So many." "Mess Stephen." "Of course, Stephen." "He's like, "I'm going to start a cat podcast." "And now." "It's going to be so fun, my life's going to be so happy." "It's just going to be happy and nice all the time." "Karen and Georgia, I'll record your podcast for you." "I'll pull a couple pictures off of Google Images." "Yeah." "Uh-huh." "We broke Stephen." "We broke him and he broke him." "They get-- so they get the DNA, the fingerprints, then they match with her fingerprints, they match it to the palm print that was on the wall. Her blood was in the bathroom." The police said that they'd never seen more evidence against a person in any case. "That was a quote." "What the fuck?" "Yeah." "What is--?" "So when all of that comes in, they're like, okay, well, then we're going to indict her for first-degree murder and they call up the police up in Waireka to go arrest her. She's arrested at her grandmother's home and as she's being let off to the police car, she says, "Is there any way I could get my makeup on?" For real, and the cop was like, no, puts her in the car and so we don't-- I don't have this headshot either, but her headshot-- she doesn't have makeup on. "Oh." "Oh." [Laughter] "Well, in a way, it is a headshot." "Yeah." "I mean, she needed her makeup for her headshot." "Oh, no." "Rewind." "Rewind." "We broke Karen." "Rewind." "We broke Karen, too." "This fucking podcast," she has-- it looked like she just straightened her hair and it's like a really pretty brunette and she's kind of like, "Uh-huh." "It's like the other woman, it's like the woman from her fucking headshot." She looks very-- it's a very natural look, very beachy and psychotic and insane. So she gets extra-dited to Arizona, she enters a plea of not guilty. They-- the Maricopa County Attorney's Office files a notice of intent to seek the death penalty for committing first degree murder in an especially cruel heinous or depraved manner. She gets out of jail, makes bail, and then goes and does an interview with the TV show 48 hours. "No. I don't think she should have gotten out of jail." "Right. I'm wrong." "She made bail." "I know." "That doesn'ts." "Okay." "It seems unfair." "Yeah." "The 48 hours bail her out." Straight onto the set. She-- on that show claims that she did not kill Travis, but that in fact it was a home invasion by a man and a woman who came in, they shot Travis, they murdered him. She was just standing there and then they went to murder her, the gun jammed. So she pushed the gun away, grabbed her purse, she specified that, and then left-- "High five of the wall with a bloody hand." "We got away." And then she drove to Northern California, straight through without alerting the cops and I were like, "Well, why wouldn't you call the police even when you got there?" She was like, "I was afraid for my life." So then, later on, she does an interview with Inside Edition and on that, she is quote is saying no jury is going to convict me because I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one. No jury will convince me. Why would you ever fucking say that? Oh, because you're a psychopath. Okay. So opening arguments of this trial began on January 2nd 2012. She changed her look and that was that picture with, yeah, so that's her lawyer. So she's basically doing lawyer cause play essentially. She's like, who in my life seems respectable? My lawyer for my trial for murder. It turns out I'm the lawyer, so no joke. Soon after this, she asked to represent herself. Oh, don't do that. Yeah, no, she did it, of course. True psychopath. I mean, oh my god. Yeah, she's like, you know what, you know what, sit back bangs. I got this one. And the judge is like, okay. And then ask her own acting on her own defense or whatever. The first thing she does is try to admit into evidence, letters from Travis admitting to her that he is a pedophile. What? Yes. She's just trying to fucking destroy a dead man's reputation that she killed. Oh my god. The prosecution immediately took the letters, proved that they were forgeries. And then so they were not admitted into evidence. And then she said to the judge, I think I might be in over my head here. Can I get my lawyer back for real? So then she gets bangs back then her story changes. And this is in court. Her story changes that the reason that everything happened because she dropped Travis's camera that day. She was there. They did have sex. They had the camera. She dropped the camera. He got so angry that he attacked her. And she had it was self-defense. She was fighting for her life, stabbing him 27 times. So in the back. Right. In the fucking back. Yeah. He was attacking her with his back. That judge must have been like, uh-huh. Go on. So then she starts this story that this has been a relationship of domestic abuse and very extreme physical violence and that she was, she was basically a battered woman, which fuck her for lots of reasons, but especially for fucking that one. Like coming in that specific kind of lie. You know what I mean? Because that's the thing that later on people hold on to. We're like, oh, you know this happens all the time where people claim. And it's like, uh, no, it doesn't. It's what psychopaths do. And there's not that many of them. Um, sorry. You really got fired up there for a second. That and the Christmas tree. Of course, there is a slew of character witnesses that come in and are just like, he fucking was a church-going man. Yeah. He was a good guy. He was self-made. He grew up, his, both his parents were methodics. He grew up with two fucking not so awful parents. And when he was 10, his grandma came and took them. And basically I guess got custody. And that's when he started going to hurt. It was, she was the one that was more many. He started going to church with her. And the second he started living with his grandmother. It's, you know, he bloomed and everything's great. And so like, this is truly a self-made man at age 30. And that's basically everyone came in and was just like, yeah, no, we're not doing this at all. Yeah. Um, so, uh, then long story short on May 8, 2012, Jody Errors. And there's so much more shit. And I'm sure that there's a million people sitting in the audience for now going, why aren't you talking about the thing? But there's like 70 million fans. That's, I didn't know. I didn't understand why everyone was watching this one. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go back and watch it all. I thought it was all just like girl kills guy and like, oh, she's hot. So whatever. It's like, it's the twists and like Nancy Grace was right. The twists and turns were fucking nuts. It can we can really quick because Nancy, she really, if you take a look at the stages, I think the one day that I decided not to get involved in the Jody areas case was because I was watching Nancy Grace talk about Jody areas. And I was like, I might be on her side. You're a lunatic. Look at how she's doing like a Courtney, like 90s Courtney love in the top right corner. She, she went through a Brett phase that I don't know. I did too when I was like 18 and a right girl. Yeah, I did too. I did too. It's like when your bangs are growing out. You know what? That's, you know what it is? She had a hair person that was like, no, you know what? It looks really good. She was like, does it? Is it too young for me? No, Nancy? Nancy? She was so mad. But then she was happy because on May 8th, 2012, Jody areas was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole. The associated press said the case was a circus and a runaway train and that it grew into a worldwide sensation. As thousands followed the trial, the alive, unedited web feed, which I didn't know, you could, you could watch that thing in real time, which is equal, it sounds equally insanely exciting and then like the most boring thing ever. Because in between time and court cases is like, oh my god, I don't like to cut the motion. So we don't need every motion. For fans, the Aureus trial became a live daytime soap opera with its mix of jealousy, religion, murder, and sex. The Jody areas case shows what happens when the justice system becomes entertainment. Nancy Grace. And then I accidentally left on a picture of a beautiful young detective, Nathaniel Mendez. That's just on my last, I wasn't taking him off because I was going to show him to my sister like, did you ever see a guy this hot? And it got printed in color, which is going right into the memory book. He was there and he was like, this crazy bitch, but gas cans in Northern California, it's a strong chin, he's got there. No, he is a detective and he's going to detect some shit, Jody. You can't get away. I'm here tonight. He's going to do a magic mic dance for you. He retired from detecting and now he's a sex dancer. And I'm sorry, I probably left out some good stuff, but that's the case of Jody Aras. That was great. That was a good one, Maya. Okay, we're back, Karen, do you have any updates? Yes. Okay, so in 2020 in Arizona court, upheld areas is murder conviction and life sentence, but she continues to pursue legal appeals. She maintains a substack from prison called just Jody, where she shares updates about her life and stuff she's doing. There was of course the lifetime movie Bad Behind bars Jody Areas, which dramatized the case from the perspective of the inmates that she made friends with while she was in jail. And then in 2025, Arizona family, which is an Arizona-based TV network premiered a documentary called Obsessed Unraveling Jody Areas. Wow, that's such a heart-wrenching story. I mean, it's just that all those aspects of like control, like totally infiltrating a person's life and taking over and control, it's just that part of it is so scary. Yeah. And so like extreme. I always thought about his friends too, and how like you have a friend who's dating someone that no none of you the friend group likes. Yeah. And there's just nothing you can do about it and how frustrating that is. And then for something like this to happen, it's like I wish I had tried harder, but there's really nothing you can do. No, because she was like they couldn't have done anything. She was a she was like a robot. She was like an obsessed person that was not going to quit obviously. I mean beyond. Okay. Well, let's go back now. And I don't know if you remember this real-time, probably one of the best hometowns anyone has ever done at a live show. Yes. Hands down. Well, you know what you know what it means when the stage starts turning the other way. That means we have time for a hometown murder. Now, let me just say this. Let me just tell you a couple important and crucial rules. We went over a couple of them before. Be drunk enough so that you can follow your own story and have a good time with it, but not so much that you're just going to yell or do it shit like that. We want it to be local. Like Arizona, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like around here. And then also when you speak, when you tell the story, in your mind it's going to be a paragraph last long. And we're going to have a beginning, a middle and an end. And we're just kind of, we're going to pull right through that in a time We have an added layer of fucking weirdness because we're spinning yeah, so if you've ever been in musical theater That'd be a great this would be a great time for you. We would love it. If you're a mezzo soprano We would love yeah, we would love to care for me and also the onus is on Georgia because She's really good at picking people. I'm gonna go right for you. Oh She's just like Holy shit Yeah What's your name? Hi Cynthia Cynthia, so we also forgot our new rule two is that everyone's mad that they didn't get picked So just don't worry about it. Yeah, sorry. Oh, yeah The pressure is on because these are this is now an audience of people who don't want to hear this story That's it's a lot I'm very sorry, but I'll keep it short sweet. Okay, please. They're okay We're spinning on my friend. Sorry. Um, so I do have a home's time story I'm actually it's a second hand story because I'm a really small town where I'm related to everybody So if my mom found that I was talking about like a cousin. I'd have to explain what a podcast is She's 65 it wouldn't work. It's too much. So I did hear this story from a coworker when I was working at Macy's It's And it's about 10 years old, but it definitely always kind of stuck with me And so it was kind of my favorite murder was the first kind of introduction into this sort of obsession which you crime, but it's about a small town near the port Gallus so I'm if you're not familiar with it. We have a lot of border towns Of course near Arizona and due to these border towns we have these group of people who They're militias who basically patrol them. So think of a lot of untrained Patriots with huge semi-automatic weapons One around in the dark trying to keep people from crossing the border. So we have all these militias who they've not been hired by name one to do No, no. They're they're private citizens who have taken upon themselves to keep you know women and children out So they just like they go around the borders and stuff So anyway, there was a particular woman her name was Shana Ford and she was Basically a great person. She was like a counter promoter. She ran for a Senate or something like that. She was a beautician She also had a sensitive criminal background fraud burglious salt which made total sense that she was a part of this militia to keep bad people During the day she runs city hall. Yeah, she ran for office, but she never was elected, but she was a go-getter So anyway, she's a part of this militia and the militia decided she was too crazy for them She she took some friends with her and decided she's gonna start her own militia So she recruited these two gentlemen one was named Jason Bush the other was was named Albert Galaxola and Jason Bush was a white supremacist who Again a salt drugs battery just a stand-up guy And then Albert I believe had a lot of drug problems in drug history and he was a drug informant So they knew the only way that they were gonna get money to fund this militia was to go and rob immigrants They were gonna go to immigrants houses and look for drugs because they knew that all immigrants just you know have drugs I guess laying around their house Just piles of cocaine on every copy table. I guess so they're the kickstarter. I don't I think it was kind of before the whole ghost And they also They also knew that if they had robbed an immigrant that they were less likely to report the crime Which is crazy because immigrants are more likely to be victims of crimes than actually commit them, but anyway So they go into this they think Hashtag murdering is a color. What's up? So they the three of them get together and they break into the home of Gina Gonzalez and Raul Flores. It's like 5 a.m. They wake up the family and They hustle them all into the living room and they start searching for drugs Well, the problem is they don't find any drugs because there's no drugs there What they do find is some jewelry and some money. Well now they have the family in the living room And what they were gonna do is basically just leave the problem was These were not immigrants. These were US citizens. These were Americans just like you and I who just happen to be Hispanic So at this point they have nothing to lose so they proceed to shoot Gina and then shoot Raul and I apologize Sugar warning when their nine-year-old daughter Risenia starts to cry. They proceed to shoot her so as the three of them leave the home Gina actually was still alive, but she had been playing dead because she knew that she had to get Tonight one one so as soon as they leave she goes to her bedroom She grabs her husband's gun as she calls 911 It did not listen to the night one but I did read the transcript and she's essentially just telling him hey These people broke into my home. They shot my daughter. They shot my husband and either they heard her or they forgot something They come back into the home well like a friggin Badass She can go on as she Don't apologize She shoots at them and she actually strikes Jason Bush, so she shoots him And then he run and then they they run out Well, she's able to describe these people very clearly to the police and they're all arrested Well during the arrest and trial Albert who was there but didn't actually do the murders he gets life in prison now when Jason's in jail They actually then tie him to another murder of another Hispanic man in New Mexico and He gets and so he gets convicted of that murder and then he also gets the death penalty for the death of Risenia and Raul Yes So then Shauna I first says oh, I wasn't there because you know she was out I don't know you be slow on whatever she was she wasn't there But Gina and the other compasses are like no you were there so then finally she says okay Well, I was there, but I didn't do any of the shooting. I was just there But they the prosecution's like no you're the mastermind you're the reason that they're there You can't incite violence you can't incite hey and then wash your hands When somebody does something that you basically told them to do so thankfully a two-sangerie agreed with that Sensor to death and she's one of three women on death thrown everyone. Oh, oh my god Arizona coming I have to say I'm a little bit mad at you right now because you just did that better than any episode we've ever done Oh So awesome what's here for We love it Yes, I was way I chose you're crying. I cried. I cried I did I'm broken You'll get there. You'll get there someday. I cried when I said upper legs But not when they're just a horrible story my therapist comes up hologram Okay, we're back Georgia. Do we have updates on this hometown? Yes, there are updates So a correction the murders of Raul Flores Jr. and Bracenia Flores happened in Arivaca, Arizona near the border not Garedas and also since this episode air Jason Eugene Bush's convictions and death sentences were upheld by the Arizona Supreme Court on August 16th 2018 the court affirmed his convictions for two counts of first degree murder attempted first degree murder and Other crimes as well as his death sentences for the murders of Raul and Bracenia in 2023 A&E covered Shauna Ford in the premiere episode of women on death row the episode aired August 4th 2023 and focused on Ford's conviction her life on death row and her continued claim that she is innocent and Both Shauna Ford and Jason Bush remain on Arizona's death row Well on a lighter note this episode was originally titled live at the revolving stage at the celebrity theater in Phoenix But we've got some ideas for other titles. We could give it now one is one whole rotation Of course, you sure sure shoes. Oh, absolutely upper legs obviously upper legs. I think is the hands down winner, but yeah, don't forget Stockholm, California. I love it. Amazing. That's our rewind for this week Let's go back to the round and say goodbye as we rotate in 2018. Oh My god you guys Who are they for our therapists? We unwind them the stage stops I was just gonna say I feel like You know when you're like on a cruise or whatever and then you adjust to something and like now I'm gonna have to go and get my while of my Sea legs or whatever I'm like whoa I can only be on a turning thing. Wow, this is so amazing. Thank you guys for being such an incredible audience. We really took us so long to come here you guys. Don't be mad. We made it. I love one half way through a show. I think to myself, oh, we're putting this one up. This is amazing. Thank you so much. We love being here with you and honestly we say this all the time but we have to say it because we really mean it. We won the lottery. The fact that this is one of our job is now is fucking nuts and it's because of you guys. Thank you so much. It's so nice. Thank you and please, please stay sexy. And don't get mad. Thanks you guys. Elvis, do you want to cookie? Welcome aboard season six of The Girlfriends. Flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. Listen to The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.