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349: Revealing the Internet’s Biggest Influencer Scammers

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349: Revealing the Internet’s Biggest Influencer Scammers

The conversation explores self-perception through mirrors, reflecting on how people see themselves differently than others do. The "magic mirror" illusion is discussed as both fascinating and unsettling, emphasizing the subjective nature of identity. Vintage and high-quality mirrors are praised for their aesthetic and historical value, while the process of traditional mirror-making is revealed to be a chemical, hands-on craft. Old photography techniques, like glass plate negatives, are highlighted as authentic and meaningful alternatives to digital methods. The discussion extends to broader cultural trends, such as the over-commercialization of products like milk and the rise of unregulated health supplements like peptides, which are viewed with skepticism. It also touches on social behaviors, including door-to-door soliciting and the psychological impact of public behavior, as well as the ethics of personal boundaries. The episode critiques modern consumerism and highlights the importance of authenticity, self-awareness, and personal responsibility. Through humor and reflection, the hosts examine how technology, history, and human behavior shape our understanding of self and society.

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Jared, what were we talking about? Like, oh, I wish people saw me the way that I see myself. Oh, on the thumbnail, you had me flip like mirror. I married you to make it a little bit more like symmetrical. Like because I was in the middle had both your like his face point, this way, your face point, this way. But when I flip the thing, that's how you see yourself in the mirror. Yeah. And it's like, well, I know that's how people know that's how you see yourself. Oh, right. Right. Yes. You're correct. If you flip it. Right. Yeah. He has crazy how like the same every like are how different everybody looks to other people. Like you, you guys look so different when you mirror it. And then like, if I take a picture and mirror you, I'm like, oh, God, that looks doesn't look like Matt. But to you, it looks like you. That's how you see yourself. Have you ever done the magic mirror, which we've talked about before? I'm just scared to do it. I did it at Epcot in like some bar, like a magic theme bar at Epcot. Did you do it drunk? I got a couple beers in me. All right. But it was not as alarming as I thought it would be. Because you know, there's always that guy on TikTok who's like at festivals and people walk up and they're like, it didn't feel like you didn't feel like you were looking at somebody else. It did feel like I was looking at someone else, but it was me, but it's not like your typical reflection. Yeah. You're just, it felt like I was standing in front of somebody that looked like you. Yes. And I was not that creeped out by it. Though I had always been apprehensive about it. You can buy like a cheap. They're kind of like stupidly expensive for just like two fucking mirrors. Yeah. Like this, 12 by 12, $250. For the first, dude, you can build that for what, $10? But you have to get it like perfect is the thing. How does it have to be perfect? If you just, because like these are two mirrors facing each other, but there's a seam down the middle that is really hard to seamless. Yeah. Got it. So it's the seamless part that makes it like it's true illusion. It's kind of like when you stand there with a suit and they go to like ham your pants. Right. You like get up on that little stage. Is that a trick? No, that's not, that's just a record. That's just like. That's just like no, yeah, it's just a surrounding mirror. Yeah, like a try mirror. And those you catch the back of your head. Oh god. You really see all the ball spots in the back of my head. Oh my god. There's a, I'm fascinated by like certain mirrors that are like really good mirrors. Like I feel like at the gym, they put mirrors in there to make you look good. Yeah. And I've been in some people's houses. Sometimes I feel like a mirror in my bathroom is a really good mirror versus another mirror I look at. And I'm always like, I want to make sure if I ever like built a house, I get the mirror that I like the most. But there's so many different types. There's a mirror in my house by my bedroom that Danielle likes to take mirror selfies on. Like when she's in her bathing suit or whatever, because she said it morphs her face. But she said it morphs her body into like a way where it looks like tone. I'm like, that's okay. And I didn't, yeah, I didn't even know that was a thing. But the word that's why that's why every time you see your take a picture, she's covering her face. You know, I'll be able to take. I have to be this far apart. Yeah. But dude, no, that's why yeah, Jim's it's supposed to like motivate you because you see like in the mirror, you're like, oh, fuck, I'm starting to look good. And they have that super hard down light. So you get like more definition. It makes you look like your, you know, super cut up. It's the same thing as like casinos. They pump that oxygen. They really keep you up. Keep you good. Keep you again, motivated. I'd like, I also love vintage mirrors, like really old mirrors. Like they're not the prettiest because they've kind of like have like the rustiness of a old mirror. I mean, knowing that this piece of art, a mirror has reflected life longer than you've been alive. It's reflected like for a hundred like a hundred years. It's like, it's kind of beautiful when you think about a really old mirror. But then sometimes you look at it, you just start seeing fucking. Oh, I know. It's spooky, but kind of beautiful at the same time. Oh, like that. Like it's just like kind of washed out. Yes. That's cool. That's cool. Like a really cool flex. Like own. I think you see that a lot of time in like the back of bars. They like to do that type of like rustiness on purpose. Like make it look like it's always been there sometimes. I wonder if the person that first invented the mirror, like people thought it was like sorcery. Oh, it had to have been. You probably could only see yourself if you were looking at like a reflection of yourself in the water. And then somebody comes along and it's like pointing at you. I'd be like, Oh, the first mirror people were probably in lines for it. I got to see what I look like today. You know what? I want to see get ready with me using the water as my reflection. And then it's like, I'll say you she points it like down and she has to do it. Make up good in the water. Okay. Do Patrick star. That's not a bad idea. I haven't seen that one yet. Yeah, that is kind of like a really good challenging. I'm trying to find the exact video, but it was fascinating. This guy was showing like how old mirrors were made by like a like chemical reactions that they were doing. And you like you pour a bunch of this stuff in here. Maybe this is the video, but he like he swirls it. He swirls it around until it starts like forming like a metallic shine to it. And then by the end of it, you can't even see through the bottle. It's just mirrored. My water when I pour my liquid IV in, just disappears. Imagine trick. It's truly baffling. That's really crazy. That out. I did not know that's how mirrors were made. How do you think they worked? I didn't know it was like a mixture of liquid that you pour over a fucking guy's just got it like a with a buffing tool. I just like did not think it was that. Have you seen people that take photographs on like glass plates? Yes. Sun staining it. Or you like take this photo and you can't see anything. And they lay it on like a piece of glass. And they like shake the water around it. And it transfers. Like this is like old technology. Like the first photos back in the day, but it is dude, I this looks way more high tech than me, just air dropping something to you. I don't understand it. Is it or you're talking about this? What what he's this guy's doing? Yes. So they you take the old school photo. Oh, and instead of using like your standard film, you just capture it on to glass. Dude, it is so crazy. That's really badass. That's better what they're doing at Mulchiosks. You know, Mulchios. They're like, we'll print your family inside of this glass. He had a little like three little globe thing. Oh, God. Can you fast forward it? I just want to see the results. I not on desktop. I wish you could fast forward on desktop. Again, they are incentivizing you. You're going to see it right now. So then it starts to reveal itself. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But then the chemicals switch it from the negative. Wow. Wow. That's really cool. That's so sick. Wow. Looks like a Mumford and Sun's album. And now you could just do that on Lightroom. Hey, a dollar for a preset. Okay. He did all that boom photo. He did all that. All right. Well, guys, we have another exciting episode. As always, let's run the intro, baby. Run it. All right, bookies. It's the baby, baby, baby, baby, it's good. Smile. Cheese. Welcome back to Zenny Heath. I'm filtered. I'm Zane. I'm Heath. I'm Matt and I'm Jared. I'll be having a wonderful day. Just freeze, not with us. Sorry. Yeah. Guys, it's the morning. I just got up. I'm getting myself this is just terrible last night. I woke up at like 250, could not go back to bed in the morning. What time do you go to bed? Like 10 30. I mean, it's not bad. That's like four or five hours of sleep. I know, but I was up for like two or three hours, just tossing and turning and trying to do anything that I was hungry. Then I had to go eat. And then it was just I've been trying to fall asleep on my back these past few nights because like I'm getting a really bad neck. And I think it's because the way I'm like, you know how like we all have our like comfy, really comfy way to fall asleep. It's the only way we can fall asleep. But like if you stay like that all night, you wake up and you you aren't literally fucked. Yeah. I like put my hand under the pillow and I go like this and then I like I go on top of my like shoulder either side. And I know it's so bad for my like for my bones and for my like nerves and everything. So I'm really like I'm doing I don't know if you remember this. Remember Gabe our friend from Florida. He was on he was showing us the way how he sleeps. Yeah. And he was set out. So I've been trying to set up my pillows like that to really just stay on my back. And it's been really tough. And I know it takes a really long time to practice doing that. But I'm trying to yeah, I'm right there. That stomach sleeping probe with my fucking hand under the pillow like that. Oh, that's bad. But it's it's mine is straight up when I'm sleeping. I go like this and just lay a little hack for that for me that like gets me sleeping on my back. I put one hand in my underpants. Jesus. It makes me feel just like a little bit more secure. Because sometimes when I come sleeping on a plane, a little hack that I like to do is I like to put my hands on like a prisoner underneath the belt. Just to feel like a little bit more secure. That's why you like the heavy blanket. Yes, I like a weighted blanket. I just I feel a little bit snug. And so I put one hand in my underpants. Yeah. Two fingers on the gouge. I feel like I'm being suffocated under those heavy blankets. I don't know why people help people like just like being under the like just snug to be like little hack while I'm flying. I like to take my penis out for comfort. The one thing about the way to blanket I feel like it makes me feel like you need to pee a little bit more. Yeah, because it's pushing on your little pressure on your blood. Yeah. I kind of drive me nuts and I'm trying to not it. I'm trying not to take melton in anymore. Like, I'm really trying to like, you should take that like when you need it. I know. But like, I'm talking about like anything like I know like there's, there's, there's different ways. There's magnesium. There's a melton and there's, uh, night will sing. I, I, I'm trying, I want to do it naturally. Like, it's a quote. It's, it's, it's a full day, it's a full day adventure, right? When you're on that, I think when you start, when you start and you just feel great. And then I think you get into like the nap phase where it's all you want to do is just knock it out and be on heroin. God. But then that's all that matters. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Sure. You shared guys. Because someone is a heroin, last, and he gives him the support line. Guys, I, you know, we should say it every time. Do not do that. Shit. Don't even try it. It's not worth it. Don't put anything in your veins. Don't put anything in your nose. Yeah. The only thing you should be taking is peptides. Redder. Are you on peptides? No, no. We are a mat after that, after that whole pancreate, I, it's not not worth it. It was such a scare. It was so fucking scary. Like I, I thought I was going to die at Newark Airport. Like the fucking last place I wanted to drop that is in that fucking New York. New work. And you were on a layover. How embarrassing. On a layover. That would have been on your tombstone. I imagine just my family because it's Newark, like everything's gonna happen there. All my friends and family have to go to Newark bringing you back to LA. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's just so much. It wouldn't have been worth it. I'd been like, mom, just keep my body there. I do. So many people I know from like high school in college and I were like selling peptides. Really? It's a new way. Like a friend being like, yo, man, selling peptides now, just if you like need to know, I'm like, what? I, I, I mean, I'm fine. Yeah. Are you all good? You still need to have some sort of license to even make it, right? To even distribute it because I know there's signs where like you can even find it. I think the clinic that you work for has to have the license. Okay. Because there's, there's times on these sites you buy it and you, you don't like, it's, you don't purchase it to the site. You have to like, sell them. But you're not like a doctor. You're not like a, you know, a practitioner can prescribe, you're not prescribing, but you're just like giving it, like it just sounds a little weird. Yeah. But, but I'm surprised that those sites are even like up and are able to do that. Like even still sell through, sell. You know what I mean? Like that's crazy to me. Isn't it? It kind of reminds me. What was that? The, the, it was basically like a pyramid scheme. But you would sell like makeup products. They had the pink cars, like Mary Kaye, Mary Kaye, that's what it kind of reminds me of. Mary Kaye, like the, like in-home, like beauty stuff, like, hey girls, let's all get together. I'm hosting a little makeup thing come over to my house or I'll come over to yours and they just sell like makeup products. It was like a huge, but they had a way of pyramid scheme, but you never, you never heard of that. Yeah. Maybe like the, it's like a rose gold, what was it, a rose gold Cadillac or something like that? Just like a pink Cadillac. And it would have like Mary Kaye on the side of it. They would like give it to you if you sold so many products. If you love them up in the tier of the company. Yeah. These like boom or Facebook moms would like get their friends to all get together. And they would like pitch it as this just like, yeah, let's get the moms together. And then all of a sudden one would bring out this briefcase full of makeup and then like, got to sell it to everybody. You guys should have seen it. I was almost like the way way back then, like when I was working at the airport, my, I was almost involved in nothing illegal, but like, like a pyramid scheme, but it was for energy drinks. Oh, weird. Yep. There's time. There's a verb. Yes. It was a verb. Herbal life is huge. How do you know that? I thought it wasn't like a that big of a thing. No, it was a huge thing that went around like right when we first started getting into Vine. I started just getting messages from all people at our school being like, oh, my God. Yes. That's it. They were like, I'm doing this like new energy drink type thing. If you could like, like maybe like help push my link and like people would just be like trying to get me to like pedal for them so they can. I would drive an hour and a half to hours for these meetings. Oh, my God. That's how they get to it because I was like, I, I wanted to be successful. Like I wanted to be a businessman. You guys know me. I thought they sell it to you. Like you want to scale up and make good money and have a flexible lifestyle. Join this. And this is back when I had like maybe 10,000 followers on Instagram. So my head was like, oh, my God. Like I see the future. I could do it. Like it's a boss. Be your boss. It's a good thing they weren't around back then. Zayn would have paid for every single fucking TikTok guy course that's like selling their rich. Yes. Oh, my God. In all of the zoom meetings, doing like I'd be paying consultants a lot of money. Yeah. Help me with social media. I can not believe you remember that he I really thought it was like a, like a, like a, like a small like a new mom's that would sell spark, which was like some form. It was like, I've almost like a pre workout energy powder. Oh, yeah. Spark. And you couldn't like get it in stores. You had to get it from like someone in your neighborhood that you knew, but I feel like the only ones that have been like super successful are like our life because that's still considered like it's your system type. Um, I mean, yeah, it's still around. It's like herbal life stadiums. They sponsor so much stuff, but it's in itself a pyramid scheme. Yeah. But the thing is that it's very successful, though, like you have a little fan base. People like love it. Yeah. Oh, even look. They even got fucking what's his name. Ronaldo Ronaldo. Ronaldo in there. Damn. That's how you know. The cut code was always like a big one where you wouldn't sell, sold knives. Yeah. I have a few friends in that. Cut. It's such a crazy concept. Selling knives and you without the thing is about pyramid schemes, you have to then sell it to your friends and family. Yeah. Like you have to get them under you. Now you're getting like them like last one in to this whole business. It's your setting. All these are there. Now you're setting in their brain. All these expectations of like, oh, you're going to see success under you. But as long as they're under you, you don't care really like about. You're not going to really help them. As long as everything is filled up under you, like all your slots are filled. Yeah. My mom gets annoyed. You're one of your friends is selling knives. You know what's really one knife and be like, all right, we're done. I kind of forgot because like I lived in LA for 10 years. But since we moved here, I forgot how much soliciting is out there. Oh, just door to door. Door salesmanship, bro, it's every fucking day. I got somebody come into my door and you in the burbs. You get a lot. You get a lot where you are. Heath. Never get anybody into my door with that. And it's crazy because I don't maybe there's something about California where it's like illegal to do it. I don't know. But I never had solicitors in LA, which is crazy because the houses are closer. You could cover way more space, right? Now dude, it is unbelievable. Oh, interesting. Jared just pulled this up soliciting is illegal in California. Oh, it involves prostitution series or look violates local rules for commercial door to door sales. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Depends on the neighborhood and stuff. Oh, man. But you know what? If a kid does come to my door with that little candy box thing, he's like, I'm going to buy one. Yeah. Make my child work. But he's there. He's at your door. Yeah. Yeah. But the mom's probably driving him around like, all right. How do you go there? Well, hopefully if it's like a fundraiser. But like, I don't know. It's the people that are coming. Like when Zane was just in town, it was some guy trying to get me to join his gym and give me training lessons. Oh, dude. He came three times. I know. And he's like, normally when you say like, Hey, I'm sorry, can you come back later? You know, when you say later, normally, it's like a week, this motherfucker came back two hours later. Don't you have more houses to hit before you even hit this one back? I remember a guy in college came to my apartment and was trying to sell me magazines. And I was like trying to hear him out and I was interested, but then I was like, I can't buy magazines right now. Like I'm in college. And he was like, okay. Nice shoes. You got over there. And like I had like our box where we put all of our shoes. And he's like, I mean, yo, man, I know it was like, do you have just anything to help me out, dude? I really need money or whatever. And I give him five bucks and he goes, what about those pair of shoes over there? Shut up. I was like, fine. Here's the pair of shoes. Like your shoes. I gave him a pair of shoes and I think a pair of like sonoaks, those like canvas flip flop things. And I was just like, get out. And then I was like, get out. Do that. That's a boss. It just be like, yeah. Yeah. He was just like, he just wanted, I wanted just to do anything to get him like away from my door. Yeah. I don't know what's the percentage of houses that these people have every day. And like, what's the percentage of it actually working like the conversion rate? Like, yeah, the conversion rate of like from all these houses. Have you ever seen American honey with like chile above? Yes. I love that. Oh my gosh. It's like three hours. And they cast it with like real kids. It almost feels like a documentary. Just how real everyone is. But they are like really beat down poor kids that just travel from town to town going to wealthy neighborhoods selling magazines and just like doing the whole spiel and then whizzling their way into houses, fucking great movie, but that concept is crazy reminds me of that show animal kingdom. I knew you would you've been watching. I did see a really funny video of a guy going up like soliciting selling no soliciting signs. Yes. I saw that too. I mean, and it wasn't the reactions of everybody who's door he knocked on was hilarious because they just burst out laughing, but they bought the signs from him. That's really good. That is fucking genius, but also he was really funny about it. I think if they said no, he would just knock their door again. again, immediately right? Are you sure? See, this will keep happening if you don't have this sign up. (laughing) That's good. Pete, you are a really good salesman. I always love the guy, though, who like has the like, it looks like it's like Windex and they're like, do a little stain, but you know what, dad, you know what, I can't even recite those. Where is he right now? He's so many of those types of like- No, that guy, that guy specifically- Oh, he's probably, he's CEO. Like, he's like, he's CEO of the company. Welcome to Hot Takes with Zane and Heath. Brought to you by Mountain Dew Bahablast. Alright, let's get started. Alright, here we go. A birthday week is insane. You get one day, that's it, nothing more, don't ask anything else for me. One night, one day. One day, it's birth day, not birth week. Get out of here! I think the most is two, if you want to move it to the weekend, then you get that weekend. No more than two days, two days is pushing it. Push in it. Alright, Hot Takes, there should be a legal age where you have to stop pretending you like camping. Are you attacking me personally? Dude, you're so young, I think there's a certain age where I can just pretend to stop liking it. It's fun to me. You're very gorgeous to me. You come back with horror stories that I don't want to hear. See, this is, this is why it's a hot take because some people don't agree. And also, it's not only a hot take, you're in a hot tent, you're either sweating, you're booty off or you are freezing your booty off. That's it. But there's parts that are fun, like, like going home, like shitting in the forest and having to use leaves, that's not fun. You don't need a $70 supplement, what you need is sleep and a vegetable. No, because I need 200 grains of protein a day and I cannot get that with food because it is too much food. I can't fit all that food in my stomach, I do not agree with that hot take. Yeah. Okay. Baby, that's, baby, that's why you don't have any of this right here. Look at that. Mm. Give me a cut. It's good. That's that $70 supplement. Everyone says they hate attention until nobody notices their new haircut. Preach, clock, yes. I don't really like attention, but do you mean just me whipping it until somebody says it? You didn't notice my bangs? I actually, you know what? I actually didn't. Here, I'm losing hair. You don't couple met me when my hair looks fuller. I barely got praised when I got a hair transplant. Where's my flowers? You know how much my hair transplant was? Too much. But people noticed I'm juicy lips, bookie. Yeah. And I put chapstick on once. And you didn't do anything. Please. You don't need another self-help book. You just need to do what the last one told you to do. I've never read a self-help book before. I've never even read a book before. Why can't read? If you post a crying selfie, you're not actually sad. You just want attention. I said it. I said it. I couldn't imagine being in the moment actually sad and being like, hold on, let me. First of all, take it and then post it. Two steps. Just be normal and post a sad quote. Maybe write something in your notes app. You barely post and you're going to post a picture of you crying. That's crazy. You don't even look good. You don't have a cue cry. Or set it to your friends first. Get some approval on that before. Or just talk to your friends first. I'm sure they would be more than happy to help. All right, hot take. Being emotionally unavailable is just being selfish with better branding. Oh, yeah. Me. For sure. You know I'm all about branding. It just sounds good. It's got like a ring too. And yes, I am selfish. On top of emotionally unavailable. They go hand in hand. Yeah. You could be both at once. That's completely acceptable. That's fine. Actually, most of the time it is selfish, but it's okay to be selfish. Choose yourself. We are us. Be who you are. You are in your parade. Hot take. We have enough types of milk. Why are we got 10 different milks? Why do we got macadamia nut milk? Stop milking things. He needs a milk. Almond milk. I get oat milk. Sure. Draw the line. Coconut milk. Who needs coconut milk? Peanut milk. What are we doing? That sounds good. Actually, peanut butter milk. I'll take that. Hot take. You should have to get a license to podcast. Ooh, self burn. Those are rare because the misinformation is ridiculous. Yeah. Podcast mics should be more expensive. I mean, that's a very popular saying, but I agree with it. There's no reason for us to have a whole studio lights, mics, and also an upload button. Somebody take these from us. We should not have. There's idiots. All right. That's our hot takes for today. If those takes were a low too hot and you need to cool yourself off, make sure to grab yourself some cold Mountain Dew Baja Blast, baby. That's right. Any local retailer near you or Mountain Dew at dot com. Thank you Mountain Dew Baja Blast for sponsoring today's episode. We love you. Oh no. Oh my, okay, so you know the movie that just came at the A24 movie, Buddy? Yes. Like the Barney movie? Yes. All right, so I've been seeing it on my phone for the last few months of how it was like a horror movie and like, you know, a scary movie, obviously, it's an A24 movie. That's how you know. And the way it was promoted, it was also like, you know, it's a scary movie. I mean, that's the only way they promoted it. But apparently these families are going into this movie, thinking it's a kids movie because I don't know. Well, first off, is it not rated R? It is rated R. But like, I don't know how these families are buying the tickets. Well, I guess the dad is just going, oh, well, yeah, it looks like a big, uh, come hurry down. I'm sure isn't going. Hey, I see you have kids. You know, it's a rated R movie. Yeah, that is surprising. They should be letting the employees know, like, you do know what you're about to go out. Like, this doesn't make sense because you back then people would go to the movie. And there was no trailer. You just like, oh, let's see that. Like, I get back then because you didn't really know what you're about to watch. You just see like what's up there. You probably see the picture of a big Barney dinosaur there. Like, oh, that's a kids movie. But I'm surprised parents are even taking their kids, they're trying to like, they're trying to like, they want the story. Just being like, we unbelievable, we need to be compensated. My child is traumatized. Or you know what? I could see a, I honestly could see a 24 also putting this out, pushing parents that just go see it and then complain about it on social media, just because we're talking as PR. As PR. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense too. Oh, it's the maker of too many cooks, which too many cooks is that crazy, what's it called? Adult swim thing that they put out. It starts off like, it's a very like full house sitcom and they're introducing a bunch of characters. And it just keeps going and they keep introducing way too many characters and then it goes even deeper. The whole thing is like 12 minutes and they aired it on adult swim at like 3 30 in the morning one night with no announcement that this whole like short film as a bit, as a bit because we need like, I couldn't imagine for the people that were watching it on TV going, what the fuck is this? It transcends space and time. Okay. Just one, it was just one like episode or one. Yeah, it was this one like long short films, was it super creepy? Was it just confusing? It starts off like, you know, very heartwarming and then it goes very funny and then it goes like very dark. And then funny again, it's yeah, you should hit a joint too many, watch too many cooks. It is, you have to watch like, or just, or just have it on. I showed my dad. I was like, boy, what the hell is this? Like, it was like a little too much. That's, that's, you see, that's something like I would do. I love little bits like that. Just like, hey, let's confuse the audience. So hard. Yeah. Oh, where did you love this? Yeah, I love that. This type of shit. That picture kind of feels like a backroom like type thing, though. Yes. That looks so familiar, even with the weird characters. It feels like he, it feels like a cover of a documentary of like this psychopath who made, like, like, like, like, psychopath producer who made this show. And these were like the victims. Yeah. It also kind of looks like Rick and Morty brought to life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This looks like something on like the intergalactic television or something. What's that? What's that? Um, again, adult swim show where it's like super like anime, uh, fucking robot chicken. Not robot chicken, but yeah, no, I guess it just, it goes with what Jared said. It literally looks like cartoons brought to life in one room. Did you ever watch adult swim as a kid, uh, sometimes some of it was like a little too high brow. I couldn't. I could not understand it. Like I never, awkward teen hunger force. I never understood. Future Rama wasn't really my vibe. I was more of a family guy kind of person like this awkward. That was like too much of a stoner show. And I wasn't stoned. And as a kid, it went way over my head since it was like a little too high. Like for, for some reason, when I was a kid family guy was the only one that could like actually register to my brain. As like a child. I really set up the young family guy. Yeah. Yeah. They really help you understand the joke. Yeah. Well, Simpson is like super like dry throughout the whole thing. You're kind of like, it's very tongue in cheek. Yeah. I never, never watched Simpson's or family guy or any of those robot chicken. I did like though. That was made by like Seth Green or not Seth Green. Yeah. It is Seth Green. And it was like the little, uh, action figures kind of like stop motion and they would just have a bunch of silly bits. Why don't I see it on here? It's right there at the top. Robot chicken. Oh, I've never, yeah. I've never heard of it. I've never seen it though. Was that Nick at night? Cartoon network at night. So like Cartoon network with the intern into adult swim. Isn't that, isn't that interesting? How like on a kid's channel, you just got to wait a little bit longer and then all of a sudden and it's an adults. Yeah. Like that kind of make like it's kind of weird. You know, I blew my mind and I kind of forgot that it's like a thing. We were at the little water park nearby. Cute. And all the kids are like playing in the water, whatever. And then the lifeguards blew the whistle and said it was adult swim. And I was like, what the fuck? So it's with the name, that's why it's called it. adult swim. All the kids had to get out of the water and then it was just the adults swimming for like 20 to 20 country clubs and stuff a lot like it's a little bit more old fashioned than they, I guess they still do it. That's where they got adult swim from. Yeah. Cause the kids are out. Now it's adult time. Adult swim. It's a perfect thing. And they all like kind of like in that moment, just everything clicked and I was like, oh my God, adult swim, that's, it's just that kind of cool. You just, and you just, you heard this when you're at the water park? Yeah. They still do. Wait, what water park is this? I guess, I guess it's for when the lifeguards go on break. So it gives them time to not have to, yes, be on watching the kids swimming. So it alleviates them from like their shift, whatever. So they got it. But the kids are so swimming. No, no, no, they have to get out or adult swim. So that way the lifeguards can technically, that's where it all comes from. Pretty cool. The butt snapper is back, the butt snapper, well, I mean, this popped up on my feet. I'm not sure if this was a, no, this is one day ago. I remembered this. This guy was in the news a couple of years ago. Also the butt snapper. He knows somebody who was a victim of the butt snapper. I don't want to say her name. Wait. Yeah. What? Yeah. Someone that we know. I remember when like this guy, like last time he got busted and was in the news. He posted on our Instagram story was like, I didn't incident with this guy, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like I think it was outside a apartment. But basically what this guy does, he has this bizarre fucking king where he goes around in public. And if like, he tries to go up to strangers, get as close as he can and just get a little sniff. Like he may go down, try to tie his shoes and get a sniff or if someone's trying to like look at a shelf in a department store, he gets real close to try to get a little sniff. Crazy. That guy's happened multiple times he's been caught and it's on the LA area. And you know what? That area that that she's in hotspot. Hotspot I guess. Yes. Yes. Jesus. Crazy that he is that much of like an itch to go do that. To me, like to me, watching this, this feels like a biscuit. It's such an insane thing to do. It's kind of like the, it's kind of like the flash guy, like the guy running up to people in the church going just, ah, and then running away. It doesn't seem like it's more for it. It seems like more for shock value than actual kink. You know, it's like this crazy thing where it's like, it doesn't feel real for the smell or is it for like the taunting of the strain. It wants to get away one last time. It just seems like, okay, hold on real quick. It's, it's wrong. It's disgusting. It's horrible that he does this to people. Is there something illegal though? Yes. I'm sure there's a way that you could find it like, but what would, like you got close to somebody? I mean, I wish I knew the legal jargon to describe exactly what it is. But that is like, because it's the same thing as like going out behind, like somebody and smelling their hair, right? Or trying to like take pictures like under their skirt or something like that. I mean, I guess the biggest thing you can do is put on the news, right? It's like, we all, maybe it's not like on textbook illegal, but it's like, you know what? What we can do is just put on the news and then use what love that. I mean, I think he's already a sex offender. So yeah, his name is Calise, Calise, serial butts never serial butts, never. Can you imagine that's like how people know you buy it now? Like serial butts, never take his nose. Oh, and it's also nude conduct. That's what this says. Crowder has also was already on parole at the time and has been documented history of similar arrests for nude conduct and both clinical. I think you do this multiple times. You lose your nose rights. Oh, yeah. I like that. You know how like we inhale and exhale like through our nose and like the way we like see it is that like, oh, it goes in and out, like right there in our nostrils, but your nose really is just like a hole that faces out and sometimes like, don't think about breathing so much like through and in out your nose, but just through that hole and just breathing like. This is like human. 101. Do you understand it? Yeah. I mean, yeah, what do you mean? Not so much breathing up. You mean like breathing? Just picture as it like the whole of your nose, that's what's breathing. It's kind of weird. It's almost like kind of meditative like to sit down and are you a mouth breather? I feel like I'm not getting enough air. No, I breathe through my nose. If you didn't have your, like if you didn't have mouth tape, you would breathe through your mouth while sleeping. I probably would find myself going to bed. I'm not breathing through my mouth. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to do mouth tape because it's like so clogged up here. It would. I would have a tough time. I try it at one time in the middle of the night. I had to rip it off. I had a panic attack. I was like, you're you're, you're being fucking I still a little strip right there in the middle. Just a little one. Oh, just just like not covering the whole thing. It's not the full lip. It's just there to like train it and God forbid if no, it's not. It's just the medical tape, like a role of a medical tape and you just cut a little like less than an inch. Oh, put it right there. Just like train. Like Halloween. Yeah. But I only do it like Monday through Thursday's like I will never do it if I've been like drinking or anything like that. Like it's just to try to just look at as like a habit. Yeah, I like that. Because sometimes the idea and I, it's become a habit because the idea of my mouth being open throughout the rest of the night, grosses me out. Yeah. So I'd rather just like keep that. I know your breath is just like three times too worse. Oh, yeah. You have your mouth open like that the whole night, kicking, kicking, kicking, kicking. The worst is when you're on an airplane and you fall asleep and your mouth's open. You wake up. You're like, Oh, gosh. Did you guys see the new Dyson toothbrush? Oh my god. I think they haven't made one. Oh my god. No, it looks insane. I'm literally going to buy it after this episode. It looks so good. It like has a camera. $500. It has a camera in your toothbrush and it's like it detects and it'll make noise. Can you imagine? It just like you put it in your mouth. That's a, it literally looks like a mini vacuum. Made it floss. Was it for you? It detects. It's like water. Oh, that's kind of nice. Oh, this is cool. Yeah. But here's the thing is that they get you because the camera can't see through regular toothpaste. So you have to buy their specially non-foaming toothpaste. Oh, come on, Dyson. Non-foaming toothpaste. I mean, it has to work though. That sounds like you're just like brushing with like soap. I'm trying to think of like, here's the thing. I, I don't think the camera is like an everyday use. I think maybe it's like a once a week, once every two week. Because it's like, that's the whole point is that the camera is going and it automatically detects like the gaps in your teeth. And then it shoots the water through the gap. So it gets that black. How are you going to be anti-AI, but then you're going to go by a AI toothbrush. It's not AI. It is. It is AI powered. It's got to connect to Wi-Fi. Like it might toothbrush has to connect to Wi-Fi. Yeah, let's put Wi-Fi right into the mouth. Hey guys, can everyone get off Wi-Fi just the signals in there? I got a brush. I got to go turn my toothbrush off. Yeah, the footage is blurry guys. Can you everybody hop off the stream? I can't wait until like a proper tech review. I got to see the reviews of this. You know what, you know what else in my house runs under fucking Wi-Fi, which makes no sense. My treadmill, my truck, if my Wi-Fi goes out, it stops running. Like, there's a difference between like, because I have, I have like the bow flex where like, you can watch, like you can watch YouTube, you can watch Netflix, Hulu, whatever. I understand if I can't watch anything, but it's the whole treadmill stops running. Like, it just shuts down without Wi-Fi. It doesn't incentivize people that have no internet to fucking your bed. You're there to work out. Yeah. Like, I don't need to, I don't need to watch anything. I just want to fucking work out, but now my Wi-Fi is down. Oh, now I have to skip fucking cardio. Did you not read the reviews before you bought it? No. I think that would have been one of the top things. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I like to, I like to have fun though. Live on the edge. Live on the edge a little bit. Exactly. But I think, honestly, I think all those treadmill's, I think that's, they all operate under Wi-Fi though. When it comes to like the TV, just when you have like the whole. Kitten Caboodle. Yeah. There's gotta be some one that lets you at least walk without Wi-Fi with the TV. You would think? You would, you would think. I think I'm gonna donate my treadmill to the gym. Donate. Good on you. I'm gonna donate it. Are they looking for donations? Okay. There's like one treadmill that's been broken for the past two months. So there's only now two left. And so when you're there, it's kind of rare to get it open. So in my head, I was like, if I donate one, now there's an extra one available. And I get my room back because my second room is fucking, it's just jammed back with shit. And I feel like I might get some perks, right? I might, maybe all my waters are free there now because you feel like buy their waters. You can't donate in hopes of getting something in return. I was the guy who donated the treadmill over there. Did they tell you? Okay. That's where it's my water. I think as long as I get reservation on that treadmill, right? The girl on it. Gotta get off. Yeah. No, no, no. Why don't you donate it to a physical rehab center where people in need? I could do that. Need to. I just feel like they wouldn't use a machine like that. I'm sure they have their own special treadmills. They don't need to like an elderly home or something. I don't fuck with it elderly though. Yeah, I just like don't really vibe with them too much. I'd rather they don't need it to somebody else. Okay. You know what? I like to like to think about like as a donation, like you leave something out on the curb. Yeah. I think somebody picks it up. They're excited as hell. They see it as a jackpot sitting on the side. You know what? I didn't realize that a lot of people still do that. I just saw. Yeah. passing by my house and they picked up like this, this like. chair or something that's foreign. Patricia, when we're driving, we do that. And when Patricia sees it, she like slow down, slow down and I'm like, here we go. Here we go. And I don't like to pick things up off the street. I know a lot of people do. I think everything's covered in cat piss like you know, I don't want to do it, but sometimes you get in your head like there's a reason why they're getting ready. But it's like we got to lug this into the house and move shit around. I just did not see my evening going this way. Do you remember my patio set at Talucca? Yes. It's a really nice like teak wood table with the chairs and everything. Yeah. Found that side of the road. It's great. Really? Oh, the one that you read, you cleaned up and rewashed it, cleaned it up, got to look a nice, put a little sealant on it. Oh, you. That's the best feeling. I found Herman Miller like chairs like from like the 60s, like the, and they were true Herman Miller ones had the logo and everything in the back. And I saw moments throwing them away in my parents' neighborhood. They brought them back. And my dad was like, what that is? It's amazing. It couldn't believe it. Like looked them up in good condition, like at least like a couple hundred for $500. Those Herman chairs are those, the comments like an egg base ones, but I mean, everyone's copied them. Oh, yeah. I have a true vintage like yellow one. Yeah. We got the cheaper versions of those. Yeah. Those are fucking nice. Oh, God. Did it look like that? Just like all worn out? It's like the yellow one, but with like, this yellow one? Yes. But with like steel legs. Oh. But my dad like closed it all up and, you know, I'd like the nice varnish. Okay. Zane, someone DM me, begging me to show you this. And I thought it was pretty funny, especially. So it's a, it's a guy getting the aftermath of his hair transplant. And with your procedure coming up, I just thought you should. Why are you going to show it to me before you see this? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, stop touching it, buddy. Oh, no, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, what the fuck did they do to him? I don't know. Did he do the FUT? Can you find out if he did the, um, were they? There's no strip in the back of the, there's no strip in the back of his head, yeah. What did they do? That was crazy. Is that going to happen to you again for your new one? Like, I've done it twice, so I don't think was they're slowing the second time, just like the first, um, I don't know, Heath, do you remember any swelling? Mm-hmm. I don't think so. They were slowing the first time. I remember I looked like an owl. Like, you know, I really push into the white owl, uh, yeah, the owl. When is your one scheduled, November? Oh boy. When are your birthday? It's my birthday. You're on your birthday. You're going to go get a hair transplant. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, yeah, that one right there, right there, right there, the one right there. Like a barn owl. Yeah. A barn owl. That's exactly what I looked like. When I was, when I did it the first time, but yes, I wish your hairline was that because I don't know. I don't know, actually. I'm going to send that to him. Hahaha. You go to a barber shop. They're like, all right. You got any like reference cuts. That's so bad. Yeah. Through the only thing I'm, the only thing that I'm scared of and, um, because they're, good office and I've seen other, I've seen friends go to the same guy. The only thing I'm scared of is that they get their hair transplant done in like two, three hours. And remember how long my other two took these, yeah, it was like 12, it was like nine to 12 hours. Because they're just like better staff. There's like 50 people in the room. I don't know. I just hope they're not doing it quicker, quicker, quicker, because maybe that's why you swell up so quick because it's like very invasive in a short amount of, I don't know. I just hope that doesn't happen to me. Like I can't record like that. I'm not going to be able to see. Can you imagine? I can't believe this is your third one. I know. Clearly it's the first two you were like, it's, you know, when you get a tattoo and you're like, I love, I love getting tattoos. I'm going to get another one. And it's like, it's like under the knife, you know, I don't like being under the knife. I just like, I, again, I've said this before. I refuse to be bald and I'm into whatever I can to not be bald, just like go as long as I can. It is kind of crazy to think about three hair transplants by 33 years old. I know. That is crazy. 333. Can you ask? Is that crazy? 333. That should be a, that's a documentary. All right. That was like a drink line. Yo, got 3333. It's a legal to get three hair transplants under 33. Oh legal. I would love to know the odds. How many people by the age of 33 have had three hair transplants? Yeah, it's probably, it's honestly probably a small percentage. Jared's Googling, is it bad to get three hair transplants? It's going to say it doesn't matter as long as you're, um, you have it, uh, that, that enough donors in the back of your head. That's all it is generally discouraged. Oh. Oh, wait, oh, that's okay. Maybe I shouldn't do it. So yeah, getting three hair transplants before age 33 is generally discouraged because male pattern baldness is still actively progressing in a finite donor supply risks, permanent depletions. Zane's like, I lost one hair, Doc. I need it. He goes in for one every time he sees it. No, I'm losing hair pretty again, like at a rapid rate, like it's, it's going quick. So that's why I'm like, I'm just like nervous. When you, when you shower, do you see like hair in the shower or, uh, no, I'm just noticing it. Like every time I like get out of the shower and I comb my hair, I'm like, oh, my God, there's more, I see more of my scalp every time it's age, you know what I mean? It's like, we don't want to, if you see yourself aging and like, I don't care if I'm aging anywhere else, just, just, um, there's a privilege. Are you still going to do the full head shave for the transplant? I think for Turkey, I will. I think I will. Oh, this is in Turkey. Yes. You actually are doing the turkish, the turkey trot, the turkey trot, the triple turkey trot, triple turkey trot. Uh, yeah. I'm going with Hidayah. We're going to be out there for like a week. When is Thanksgiving? You know, you're going to be having turkey and turkey. I haven't, I haven't, that's good. I haven't celebrated Thanksgiving or Christmas and like the past three years, honestly. You're going to make some friends on the flight. I know. Dude, I want my entire flight to look like that. Yes. That would be an experience. Oh, I'm sure. Turkey's hairlines, turkey's hairlines, and you know what I'm, I'm pretty sure I'm flying on Turkish Airlines. Oh, look, look. The girls are on there too. Maybe I could find a girl on. Oh, my God. Bless your children. That child will not have a bit of hair on their head. Like, it's the Arab genes. It's the Middle Eastern genes, man. We just fucking lose our hair so quickly. I mean, it happens with every, every, like, you know, everyone has a history of something. I know. It's fine though. You know, whatever. We don't need to talk about it. Who cares? I know. Guys, I want to be bald. I just like to challenge myself. I'm bald and I'm proud. Did you guys see the update on the David murder case? No. No. Dude, how is there even an update? It's like his attorneys dropped out and now he's being represented by a public defender. Oh, he's done. He's done. And that, that means his own team was like, yo, this is so bad. I don't even want to rep you anymore. And then they left him. The article did say that the judge asks, it's like, is this your wish to him? And he said yes. But yeah, he, he lost his defense team and is now going with the public. Honestly, there's some, I know everybody has a right to have a defender. Everyone has a right to a fair trial, but man, like, there's just some things where you're just like, not even a lawyer can take this. Not the best lawyer for the worst criminals sometimes can just be like, you know what? I really can't. I really can't take it. You got you at this point, you got to give it to like a student who's just going into law. He really needs a good case, a strong case. Yeah. And he just goes. Someone to hire him like, man, you defended a criminal known would do. It shows like, I don't know a little bit of merit, but does it show? Like, I feel like people would start hate it. Like, I feel like you get this like bad rap, not from the, not from like the thing, I mean, in the whole world of law, if you're convincing, like, I think the thing too, like if it's one that's appointed to them by the state, they're not doing their own practice. So it's not like they're going to be hired outside of that anyways. So I don't think they have to worry about what that looks like, right? Yeah. Does that make sense? There's something really sinful about being representing somebody, representing somebody that you know did something bad. And even to the point where like, you know, because the lawyer usually lawyers and their clients are, they're honest, they like anything that they talk about doesn't leave their office. But their sides were when they confessed that they did something, the lawyer still has to defend them, right? Imagine the, the, the criminal confesses to you and you still have to defend them. And you do such a good job that they get off and are found not guilty. And then you have to live with yourself doing such a good job. And you know that they murdered somebody, but how does it, how is that like a lot? How is that legal? Like you're an accessory to his, what's the difference between someone coming? I know, but what's like, the difference between you killing someone, you coming to me telling me if they find out that I knew I'm, I'm, I'm held, I'm, I'm an accessory to your crime. Yeah. It's like the same fucking thing. That's so crazy. How that's allowed. It's like, but lawyers are like protected under this like, this dome where it's like, yeah, They can't really get in trouble, even if they know and they have to defend them. Would you tell your lawyer hypothetically, if you did, I think in most cases, I mean, it's not, I feel like they're not like a movie, but we're saying if I'm a killer, yeah, I think a lawyer would, a lawyer usually strongly, yeah, but you will also strongly, I feel like most lawyers strongly will suggest you to take a plea deal, a guilty plea deal, where you're in jail for a lesser, like a less time, then you would be, yeah, unless you were some super hyper intelligent, like serial killer, where you know that you could maintain this certain innocent like narrative for yourself, disclose that information or keep that information to yourself from your lawyer and keep the narrative going, because if you lie to your lawyer and your lawyer finds out that you're lying to him, he can be like, I don't want to work with you because you're not being honest with me and it makes me look bad because it seems like I'm not fully aware of what's going on. Yeah, so that's when like a lot of times they leave is because the person's lying. I feel like a lot of times it helps the lawyer when they know that they actually did the crime, because now they can like, they can build the case and the case. Yeah. Ooh, so dark, very dark. How to get away with Murray with viola Davis. How to get away with murder that iconic walk just, I love the viola Davis walk where it's like, yeah, she grabs her purse, gets up and leave. I can do that. Giff all day. I love her. She is, she is one of my favorite actresses. She is so good. I pay good money for viola Davis just to yell at me. Oh, yeah. I just fucking with $1,000 an hour. I'll take it. Yeah. I'd hire her on viola. If anyone's a viola Davis's team would love to have you all my and you know, she'd be great. She'd be so sweet. What if she was just like, what do you guys talk about on here? What is this? Is has she won an Oscar yet? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Maybe a couple. I think she won for a doubt. Good. She's kind of in so many movies, though, from like, Oh, she won for fences. Right. She's like in a lot of like crazy movies from like back in the day and like the early 2000s. Yeah. I'll watch something that's old and be like, whoa. You know, she, but you know, she puts passion and fucking hearts since the beginning. You know, she's worked her ass off to where she's. Oh, yeah. Like you can, you can tell through the screen how fucking much heart and passion she has in her. Yeah. It was crazy going back and rewatching airbud and seeing her in that stupid. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, that's the type of stuff that like she was in. Just like a small little world. Just like the neighbor. She's in smart house. You know what? Whenever she is the head of like an investigation for any, any show or a movie like where she's the head of the FBI. I'm watching it. Yep. I'm watching it for sure. 100%. I think she needs to be like in a, in a position of power. Yeah. Cause she is way too good at it. Just Juliard, baby. Yeah. Just Juliard. She was not in a position of power at the help, but what? Fucking fantastic Juliard. Mm-hmm. Damn. If I could go back in time and go to Juliard. I'll just get in the Juliard. I would love to see some Juliard students act. I think it's like hard to get tickets to go like watch like the current Juliard, uh, drama class. Yeah. I think they're called like cycles or something. It's like America's next top model or troops. I can't remember the name of it. But, uh, you just to go and then like watch them do a play because you could be seeing the next Adam driver. You could be seeing the next biola Davis before they get super famous. It's crazy seeing those seminars of like big, big actors, like asking questions. And they're like, oh, yes. Oh, like inside the actor studio. Yeah. Where is that? I don't know. Inside the actor studios. Bradley Cooper, right? Yeah. There's one with Robert De Niro. And Bradley Cooper was a student at Georgetown. Yes. And he goes, Hey, I'm Bradley Cooper. I'm a student here. I just have a question, Mr. De Niro, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And little did they know they would be in silver linings, playbook together in multiple movies. And Louis CK made a joke one time and his stand-up a long time ago. Like, you know, inside the actor studio and you have all these like students who are studying acting and they're asking, you know, the person who's famous, how do I become a famous actor, blah, blah. You're already not going to become famous. You asking a question right now, there's no way you're going to become famous. Like, it's a whole just joke. About the moment they ask a question, they're not going to be famous. And there's a scene, I believe it's an American hustle, where Louis CK is in it. And Bradley Cooper. And Bradley Cooper, like comes at him and like, just like riles and up and his gets anger with him. Apparently that like was a fuck you to him because of his joke. But this was a scene and a American hustle. But it's the con, it's not the context of the scene, but like them internally, we're tapping into that type thing. So I believe it's American hustle. Yeah, there's like something where he's like rustling him up and stuff. I've never seen this. You know what? Neither have I. I don't know why. Dude, the cast is amazing. Yeah, it came out like in 2013. Jennifer Lawrence, dude, she's also like another top for me, like top favorite actress 100% Jennifer Lawrence, Margot Robbie, Emma Stone, Kristen Stewart and Emma Watson are all the same age. Is that kind of crazy? They're all born the same year. I can't probably now 37 or 36, but they're all born like in 1990 to me. There's so much older than me. It's so insane. Yeah. Like you would like standing next to him. You'd think that like imagine saying I would just look like a baby. Just get off the carpet. You need to leave. I saw Mariah got a sewing machine. Yes. For her birthday. I got her a sewing machine. Oh my gosh. What a perfect gift. I've sewing. I've always been like interested in, but it always kind of complicated. Is it easier than you think, bro? It is the most addicting thing. So like right now, our whole routine ever since her birthday will like put them to bed, do the whole thing, clean the house, and then we'll just sit down and we'll just sew. Are you finding patterns and then cutting the patterns and then so our first couple things. We just kind of like laid out what we wanted to do and traced around it. Like for the t-shirt or for pants and just kind of like, wang it, I guess. But then we ended up ordering like the little stencil patterns online. Yeah. And then you could lay that out on the fabric. Bro, it is the most addicting. Like I feel like, bro, when I finished this t-shirt and pants set for him, I was like, I'm fucking Betsy Ross. I can't explain the feeling of sewing a pair of hands. Right. It's such a rush. I mean, and it's so you're right there with your hands. It's very satisfying to do. It's probably so fun to like make kits clothes because it's so small. And like, you know, it's not, it doesn't take too long. You get just keep making multiple pairs of pants. And like one short amount of time. It's so cool. And I just feel like, you know, you hear parent, like your parents and your grandparents talking about stories like, oh, I used to make them their clothes from a burlap sack that we would get from the potatoes. And I'm like, oh my gosh, grandma like, okay, okay. But now like when I'm doing it, I'm like, shit, you know, I get it. Maybe they weren't struggling. They just enjoyed it. Now with like Halloween costumes, you can be like, you can be whatever you want. I'm going to make anything you want any pattern. Like I just, one of my favorite shirts, I have like this kind of motorcycle look in bike week shirt that I used to wear all the time. And I turned it into a baby shirt for him. Oh, and I just made that. Yeah, we did that one last night. Did you pretty much like cut the sides, like cut like a chunk of the sides and then you stitch it like thinner. So what you do, like for that one, I, it has like a big graphic on it. So I wanted that to be the whole front of the shirt. So I laid out the stencil of what I was going to use to get the shape. And then I traced around it. You leave like, maybe like a half an inch around like a border for like where your stitch is going to be. Yeah, we're like the seams going to be. I did that. And then I also did the back. But with making this, like you have to do everything inside out. Right. So you put the front and back together. So it's inside out. When I have to sew my knitting panels, yeah, you do it inside out. So it just holds right in. And then you have to sew everything inside out. Then you did the sleeves. Then the neckline, hem the bottom, but we were making this one pair of pants the other day. And everything is inside out. So like your brain is kind of like you, it's, it's like relearning to like ride a bike almost, like it's like if it was back, like it's just so weird. So we were going through and I did it. And then we went to flip the pants inside out and I sewed the fucking thing. Like a mermaid. This long little like skirt thing. And I was like, Oh, shit. And then you have to have to undo the stitches. But yeah, it is, it's so rewarding too. And then when you put the baby in it, you're like, oh my god. Is it a pedal like basically? Do you press down at a bottom and then it's electric? And it just gets going. Is it easy? It's like thread it through because this isn't like seven different places. You got to like put the spool in and weave it through. spool in. You get your your thread on the bobbin. So you have to spool that up and then that goes into the bottom of the shoe on the bobbin. Come on now. And then yeah, it goes around and then you got to hook it under it, go through, go up, back down and then behind the little lever and then through the needle. But dude, it is, you got to, Matt, you got to get when you would die. I've considered it. I've sometimes I like the embroidery ones where you kind of like can just set it and like forget it and like digitally upload like any image. Unless you get the duel though because some embroidery machines are only embroidered. Right. You can't like do probably like seams and stuff. Yeah, we went and checked one out yesterday. There was like this fabric shop nearby. And I was looking at this machine. It did sewing and embroidery. I was like, oh, that's sick. I was like, how much is this one? $12,000. $12,000, you know, 100. My goodness. 12. Damn. They're like, they're like, you know, they're charging that because they think that you're about to make close with people and start charging. So they're like, we got to make this higher, because they're going to make money off this product. Yeah. But it was kind of crazy, though. Like, you could scroll through all the different designs and everything on it. And you could upload whatever image you want. And it'll embroider that. Like it was just pretty high-tech. It's cool. But 12 grand. When did Mariah get interested in this? I guess since having a child has the algorithm been like showing her mom's doing it? And she was like, I gotta get into this. She used to do sewing when she was younger. And then she always would do stuff like by hand. Like just threading with a needle, like making like pillowcases, like all the pillowcases at the Toluca house in the backyard. All of those she'd like hand sewed all those pillowcases. Oh wow. So she'd always do stuff around the house like that, but it just takes forever. And then when we had Tony, she started doing a lot of like, stuff with felt, like felt fruit. Yes. Oh, oh, like the magnets that are on the first. So we would do the magnets. But this is more so like here, Jared, type in like baby felt fruit. Does it kind of look like those, those, is that hacky sacks? No, it's so hard to explain. So basically, it's a little mini like just plus things. Yeah, things that take it like squeeze and like chew on. But yeah, so she, you fill it up with like stuffing and then you would, she would hand sew into the fruit like that. And she did like pizza and sandwiches and different fruits and everything. And I always knew she liked sewing. So I was like, so I bought her. Yeah. So very good. That's awesome. So I got her the singer. It's the singer heavy duty. I like the look of it. It looks really like old school and like classic. Yeah. Just that gray. Oh, yeah. That's so no. Because you could like modernize it, but why, why modernize it when you could just like make it look. Yeah. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah. Like that looks, it looks like old school. It looks passed down. Yeah. Very 80s. Uh-huh. I like the black one. Black is sleek, but that gray. Yeah. It's I get about it. But Matt, highly recommend. I think you would really enjoy it. It's definitely in the pipeline of crab hobbies. But you know, my finger would go right under it. Oh, yeah. Like the Grinch. Oh my god. That would make me. Happened to my friend's mom recently, though, she was using her sewing machine and went right through her fingers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And she's a golfer. It goes right through your finger. Or is it just kind of like, yeah, I don't know like how I'll severe the of the moment it is, or if it like detects, well, it's kind of like, isn't it kind of like a saw? Because you know, when it detects like, uh, it go, no, no, no, no, it just goes up and down. But dude, it's fast. Like if you floor it, oh, sorry, when I met, when I met saw, I didn't say like the need, I'm saying saw as in like, you know how they, they build it where it's a blade saw. If it detects, is it he or something? So that's only a specific one. So don't assume that all of them will stop of it. But I'm talking about that one specifically. I think where people test it, they'll like touch it with a hot dog. It stops and it stops. Yeah. That I don't know how they do that one. Oh, see now you got to get a whole craft room up in your house. That is what I'm looking forward to. Because like all my yarn, I just haven't a basket. I can't wait till the day I have all my yarn or organized by its weight, by its color, everything. Because it's, you know, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Kindle to draw what you want to make. I was trying to find a $12,000 one. That is that's why that is $12,000. I always love the brother. Brother makes also like the t-shirt like making ones that are like, it's almost just like a printer. You put your shirt in it and it just prints color. I guess so or I thought Scott was more doing like embroidery. He had a, he had like an embroidery machine, but then he also did a screen printing. Screen printing. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy has like a whole t-shirt business. It's awesome. Because like if I ever want to get like a custom shirt done for like a friend or something, I just go in there and he goes, yeah, puts it in, just makes it. That's nice. But it's like a $10,000 $12,000 machine. How much would he charge if he wanted to make like a custom shirt? He doesn't care. He goes as long as you provide your shirts. He goes all print anything. But I usually will never ask like, can you do 15? Like if it was like a bulk thing, but if I go in, it's usually like two or three shirts. I'm just trying to make for like Patricia's birthday or something. Oh, and okay. But yeah, the big brother one, those are like really dope and super easy. You're not doing that whole silk screen stuff. You know, people have to do like, yeah, stuff and it's not those iron on things. So you still have to like, I impress it at the end just to get all the colors to say. Yeah. But like, it's just perfect. He'd be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna make a shirt today. But does he make it like he makes clothing for a brand? Yeah, it's his brand. It's his brand. Oh, very successful. Oh, oh, his own brand. Yeah. Got it. That looks fun though. Yeah, it does look fun. Damn, like making your own shit. Like imagine just like creating your own like designs on your computer, bringing it there, making like 100 shirts. Dude, you know, they're all gonna sell. My whole TikTok feed now is just people making shit out of nothing. Like you know, those uh, you haul moving blankets. Yeah. This guy made a jacket out of a you haul moving blanket. And it looks. Wait, no, that would go hard. Zane, I'm, I'm gonna send it to you right now. Like, I would go hard. I have so many in my closet right here. I'm like, I have to do the you haul jacket. I think I think we're about to see it right now. Got the shale done. Oh, that's whoa, sick. And then he'll put a liner on the inside of it. Bro, yeah, that's something you'd, you definitely need it. Yeah, make it comfy. That's sick. Oh my god. Wow. That's really cool. Wow. I want that jacket. For the next 10 years, everybody in the family and friends are all getting just hand sewn shit. That's gonna be the gift for now on. Damn, that's fucking sick. It's crazy. What, you can make whatever you want. And dude, and because I, dude, sure, it's so hard to find shirts, they're like the exact like width and length that you need. And now all you do is trace the one, the shape that you like. And you can just do it over and over and over and over. Then you learn new techniques. And it's beautiful. You get to keep learning new things to do. Like, oh, how to do a collar, how to do this sort of type of car. Like a shirt, like a shirt like this, is that is this like hard to make? Not like the graphics, obviously, but like the fucking. No, it's easy. No, it's easy. It's just a basic t-shirt with like a little ball. It would probably take a little bit to get it perfect the first time, right? Like you have to keep like wearing it. Oh, this is too tight. Then you go unstitch it. Well, if you use the stencil of a shape and a size that you know, you fit, you're fine. But to come up with that stand, to come up with that stencil, it has like you have to don't you have to like get it right first with like that's what, that's why I traced something that like when I traced his, I just put a shirt that he wears that is his size that I like. Got it. And then I traced that out. So if I gave you a shirt that I think fits me perfectly. Yeah. That's all you need. Yeah. It's just like now. Now when I'm rushing and I have a wedding to go to and I'm like, shit, I gotta go to the tailor and get my pants hemmed. Now you can do it at home. How easy it is to hem like dress pants like that. I mean, yeah, you're just taking it up and then it's sewing it. Like it's just it's it's saying it's so much easier than you think. Instead of going to eddies, I'm just going to ship my clothes to you. Have you hem it and then bring it back to me. That'll be quicker. I got you. I'm excited for you. Oh my god. I can't wait to see all the like your whole line come out. The house, the house of who saw a line where I already got tags made. Oh, that's awesome. Oh my speaking of tags. I don't know if I want to say it. Say somebody else got it. Somebody else. I'll say someone was talking to Kristen Bell recently, because Kristen Bell was knitting and they were like, oh my gosh, my friend Matt Nets. And he's straight. She was like, oh, that's so cool. And she was like, well, what does he make blah blah blah? And she goes, hold on. She pulled up like a video of me and my knitting stuff. And Kristen Bell was like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. Wait, where did he get his labels? And I, so the person reached out to me was like, I was talking to Kristen Bell. She wants to know where you get your labels from. And so I got to send a message, not directly to Kristen Bell, but Kristen Bell. I can't believe you're going to be on the podcast. I'm just on armchair expert. But I was like, wow, that's so cool. Just getting got all the way up there. That's funny. Yeah. Oh, I, um, I was, I was wanted to mention, um, Dan Cook, when we were talking about, like, scamming because remember that story a long time ago where, um, Dan Cook's brother for like years was like stealing money from him as he was like getting bigger and bigger. I remember that. Yeah. So millions and millions of dollars away from them, like from him, like storing it himself. And they're finally coming out with a documentary about it. And like, I completely forgot that happened until I saw the trailer for it. And it's coming out. And I'm really excited to see it. Yeah. He embezzled at least $12 million from Cook during his peak careers between 2004 and 2008. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Like, can you imagine your brother just like, like, first of all, how do you not catch on to that? Your brother just starts like buying Lamborghini. Yeah. Like, I don't understand how just like, you're like, wait, am I making money? Are you? Like, it's just going to be crazy when you're like making so much money in such a quick amount of time. You're like, oh, Well, this is so much more. money. Therefore, I think it's all accounted for. Yeah. But there's even a whole other chunk of it that is being taken away from you underneath your nose. What is that? Counting him like his brother. Yeah, it was like his brother and business manager. So he was just probably getting successful. This guy thought he knew money was like, dude, I got you. All make sure we're family. Dude, no one's going to like scam you. I mean, we're going to probably learn more in the documentary. But like sometimes people think, well, I got to be with someone I trust. Like you would think like 12 million, you got to make it non noticeable. 12 million is just kind of like a, I don't care what he thinks. Do you know if he got the money back? He pleaded guilty in 2010 to Larsen. Why can't I say it word? Larsen, he forgery, embezzlement and serving a six year prison. Because if he doesn't have that money anymore, like it's kind of impossible to get that money back. Yeah. He was forging documents and hidden stolen cash in a home safe and inside pasta sauce jars filled with spaghetti sauce. What the fun? I wonder how much money he had left. I'm happy he goes to his house until like house sit or dog sit. He's just like trying to find something to whip up to eat and he goes to mix spaghetti. Yeah. And just one out sauce is just cash just coming out of it out of me of the thing. Oh my god. My brother's into he's in the drug cartel. Yeah. But it's your money. No, he never got the full 12 million, but the court ordered him to pay back the full 12 million. So he had it. Like it wasn't like he spent it all in cash like on stupid shit, like where he couldn't. That's good. Damn. That's so sad. And then like you lose your brother. Like you know, like they never talked again. Oh, absolutely not. That's so sad. It's a root of all evil. Damn. He was, I remember his peak. He was huge. He was a number one. I love dang cook back in the day. It's crazy. Number one in a breaking and entering. This is my favorite. And he was in every fucking movie. Good luck, Chuck. Good luck, Chuck. Just like so many. It's so crazy. Like looking back like, was he funny or was he just very confident? I think he was so confident in like charming. He was a good storyteller. Yeah. But like was it the most funny thing? It was he was not really delivered. It's all personality too. Like I think he had a great personality. Like if you met him, he was so different. That guy's funny. I want to be friends with him. I think that's how like when you're that person, a vicious circle one where he's in the arena. He is, he's performance is perfect. He's every corner of that arena. He's performing for. He's like, Menescalco. He's just like he takes a stage with his just like moves and his like, yeah, so good. But that takes sound too. Like to me, that's like super talented like you very personable. And you're able to like captivate an audience. Whether your jokes are funny or not scamming and stuff. Have you heard about this guy who's now been busted? I believe by like the FBI or you buy the FBI for scamming 26 women out of $1.3 million by faking as a 49ers player. Yeah. So he had his Instagram account saying that he was a player on the 49ers. He would match with women on dating sites. I got to see this page. And well, I think his Instagram account has been taken like away. Leave it up as a museum. Like why can't we have it? But this guy would, you know, create this whole illusion that he had a bunch of money. He would say that he is from the wealthiest family in Switzerland. He owns three properties that are each worth like 8 million. Like he has these videos of him breaking down everything he owns, saying how much all this stuff is, but then would get the girls basically, I know you fucking lost this guy would post this stuff. And he would say like, Oh, yeah, but the reason I'm not on the roster right now is because I'm on injury reserve because I broke this finger here. So I like, I'm still getting paid, but I'm just not like actively playing right now. And he would DM people for free haircuts. He would get the girls then to be like, he'd be like, I'm really interested in you. And you know, if we want to be serious, I want to make sure we're both growing money. So how much money do you make having this account? What's your credit score? And then would be like, okay, we'll give me $20,000. So I'll make sure that your money's growing. And girls would just, oh, that type of God, it would create this illusion of what's like grow together type thing. God, women would funnel in money or he would make it seem like, oh, my money's like locked up. I have to get this thing paid for. Can you just do it? See, that's, I mean, it feels more. But that whole, like, that whole, like, I could take your $20,000 and really, yeah, make it that. Dude, you're, you're talking to some like older lady where she, like, she's getting all this attention from a 49ers, 49ers, I get it. And the crazy part is he had so much social media content out there as him as a 49ers player that even like, if you searched him up on Google, it would come up that he was, in fact, a wide receiver for the 49ers. And nobody, and nobody questions like the end of it. Nobody fucking questioned it. Like they were just like, hey, we should look out for why it's this guy pretending he's a 49ers player. Or he's maybe they're like, oh, he's just a big fan. He's, he's just cosplaying. I think you would pick his victims like very carefully. Yeah. Like it was someone who maybe just was not had the brightest bold. I think it probably, probably chatted with them for a little bit too. Like for, for maybe multiple weeks. And on his highlights on his Instagram, he would like, take clips of other like players from like the lock room and stuff and making it seem like he was, you know, on the sidelines and stuff. Now, you did, you have to sell it. It's all image. Oh, dude, he's probably screwing recording, snap. Oh, that's what he was doing. Yeah, that's exactly what he was doing. Just making it seem like he was one of the players. You really can be whatever you want. And like they, oh, there's a video of like his buddy. His buddy was then a part of the scam with him. So he'd be like, all right, I'm going to hook you up with my financial advisor. He's going to make sure the money's all handled. And there's even a video of him like acting like he's signing his contract. Like go with the 49ers, man. But he's like in his apartment. Yeah. Just sitting down. The thing is, it's not surprising, dude. There's so many people out there that like, like they just get scared. I just saw this girl. It was a friend. I think McQueen, she just got skinned by an email. No way. Just an email. It was like, she was talking to our brand and, um, and she signed up. You know, I think it was like a, you know, a portal, a portal where you, where you run campaigns on for social media. And I, they got all her info through that. It was like a fake site. But like the way they titled themselves was real. Oh, no. And to this day, you, like you would think that you would never get scared. But oh, my gosh. I need to tell her to, I need to know what that is. I just want to make sure Patricia that doesn't happen to her. Oh, yeah. I need to remember when I, I was trying to sell my Jeep really bad. And I really needed to get it sold. And I went to this like car. It was like a fucking a trader, like a auto trader, auto sales, tie page. And I paid this dude that was from the site, like 200 bucks to help sell my car. It was like this weird thing where it's like, oh, he's going to push my, I count up to get it sold and never heard. Never heard from him again. Oh, but it like, it seemed really real because I contacted him like through the customer support site. I don't like, it was very strange, but even, I feel like even legit businesses, I think you can get scanned by like certain people. They're just like, yeah, I'm not going to, like people on Zilla and stuff like apartments or houses. They like, it almost happened to my brother, but he's luckily, you know, keen to that stuff. But they'll make you pay like 150 bucks for like application to like submit it. And people are listing like this fake property. And there's, it's not even available, but they're just collecting people's application fees. Oh, and never even like taking them into consideration. Like there, there's nothing there. Like it's just, they're just constantly collecting these fees. That dude scamming is going to be something that is going to live on forever. It's just so hard to be careful. My mom got scam, but it was more like an email like scam. It wasn't like money wise, but like it was like someone sent you an e-card or whatever. It was my mom's birthday. And then my mom like went in and tried like maybe put in her email or something. And then it sent that thing to everybody, all of my friends, everyone who I think was invited to our wedding got an email from my mom saying she just sent you an e-card or whatever. Or again, e-card. And it was like, I had some people texting me and my mom was just like, I'm sorry. I know I'm getting even more stuff on my end. Like it went out to everybody. Yeah, you got to think about it from their end. They're sending mass fucking emails. You know, they're at least going to get to like two to three people are going to yeah. And it's like so easy because there's so many like as soon as you get like access to fucking hundreds and thousands of fucking emails in contacts, you know you're about to land big with certain people. And they always get you like I get like spam emails that are like your account has been like overcharged or your subscription is about to end or like something where it makes it seem like I've been subscribed to something and I'm always like, what is this? Yeah. And then you're like, wait, wait, wait, this is a scam. I've never signed up for it. But like it's always something where I'm like, what have I been paying for? But you haven't be aware. We're going to be aware. Yes, be aware. Always always whenever you get an email, make sure you look at the handle the fucking the email address and just look it up. You're 99% of the time you're going to see immediately that it's a scam. It's not a real site or, you know, all right. But all right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into another episode of Zane Heathen filtered. You can check out these episodes every Monday audio form and all podcast platforms and every Tuesday video form on YouTube. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. People often see themselves differently in mirrors than others do, highlighting the subjectivity of self-perception.
  2. The "magic mirror" illusion, where two mirrors create a reflective symmetry, can feel disorienting but is not as alarming as feared, revealing how strange self-observation can be.
  3. Mirror quality and design matter—some mirrors enhance appearance, while vintage or old mirrors have a unique, almost artistic presence that evokes nostalgia and unease.
  4. Historical mirror-making involved chemical processes that created metallic shine, showing how ancient technology was both mysterious and innovative.
  5. Old photography techniques, like glass plate negatives, offer a tactile, analog connection to history and are seen as more authentic than digital methods.
  6. The discussion touches on the psychology of self-image, including how people use mirrors to feel confident or motivated.
  7. The episode critiques modern consumerism, such as the overabundance of milk varieties and the rise of unregulated health products like peptides.
  8. The conversation highlights social behaviors, such as door-to-door soliciting, and raises ethical questions about personal boundaries and public conduct.

Summary:

The conversation explores self-perception through mirrors, reflecting on how people see themselves differently than others do. The "magic mirror" illusion is discussed as both fascinating and unsettling, emphasizing the subjective nature of identity. Vintage and high-quality mirrors are praised for their aesthetic and historical value, while the process of traditional mirror-making is revealed to be a chemical, hands-on craft.

Old photography techniques, like glass plate negatives, are highlighted as authentic and meaningful alternatives to digital methods. The discussion extends to broader cultural trends, such as the over-commercialization of products like milk and the rise of unregulated health supplements like peptides, which are viewed with skepticism. It also touches on social behaviors, including door-to-door soliciting and the psychological impact of public behavior, as well as the ethics of personal boundaries.

The episode critiques modern consumerism and highlights the importance of authenticity, self-awareness, and personal responsibility. Through humor and reflection, the hosts examine how technology, history, and human behavior shape our understanding of self and society.

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The magic mirror effect creates a visual illusion where a person looks like themselves in a mirrored setup, often using two facing mirrors with a seamless seam. It's designed to mimic how people see themselves in a mirror, showing a more symmetrical and accurate reflection than how others might perceive them.

People often feel a strong personal connection to their mirror image because it reflects how they see themselves, while others’ perceptions may be influenced by perspective, lighting, or social comparison, leading to differences in how they view their appearance.

Vintage mirrors are often considered special due to their historical value and craftsmanship. They reflect not just images but also the history of how people viewed themselves and designed spaces over time, adding a unique, almost artistic appeal.

Old photographs were captured on glass plates by transferring the image using chemicals and light exposure. The developed image could then be viewed through the glass, creating a permanent record that is distinct from modern film-based photography.

Selling products through pyramid schemes is often illegal and unsustainable, as it relies on recruiting new members rather than genuine product sales. These schemes are widely criticized for being exploitative and lacking long-term value.

The 'butt snapper' is a person who approaches strangers in public to get a sniff, often considered intrusive and inappropriate. It is generally considered a form of nuisance and can be classified as a violation of personal boundaries, potentially falling under laws related to nude conduct or public harassment.

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