Respect

This is off track. - All we do is wait on Tim, man. - It's like he thinks it's our first rodeo. We've been doing Tim what episode is this? - What episode is this? - 511. - It's as if we don't know that we need to be centered. - I'm saying we need to be recording our, oh wait, he's like, I hit a chord. - God, all of this wasted time on Tim's absurd. - Tim, how annoyed are you with us on a weekly basis? Like, is it fluctuating a lot? Or are you just like a pretty standard steady level of annoyance? - I actually don't think I ever get that annoyed with you guys. - I'm just gonna play it up a little bit. - Yeah, there's some rage. There's like a, I punch a pillow repeatedly. - Is it a pillow with our faces on it? It was Ed Carpenter actually, your friend and-- - I'm familiar. That once told me that when he was trying to convince me to have kids, he was like, dogs are more worked than kids. And I was like, that just can't be true. And then he was like, yeah, kids eventually can feed themselves and like, why do we buy this? - Oh, that's true. I'm like, yeah, that's a good point. - The good thing is, you're not, I feel like the majority of the time you're not wiping your dogs butt though. - Well, I'm gonna, you're picking up a (beep) which is arguably worse. - That's fair. That is fair. I just, I still, I don't subscribe to it, but I see his point. - Back on the annoying Tim thing, we should probably make these episodes as challenging to edit as possible considering he is a noon flight out to Europe tomorrow. - Well, no, I mean, that's fine. This episode has to be edited in out before that flight. This I have less than seven hours to record this edited, do the last listen and post it. Unless you guys want me to skip the last listen, that's fine. I'm just gonna say, I just won't bleep anything from this episode. - And do you love it? - And do your laundry. - I'm doing the laundry currently. I mean, it's, I just put it in a machine. - Yeah, you can do that in parallel. That's like, you can do that concurrently to doing this. And that, are you excited for your trip? - Very, this is like the most type A I've ever done a trip. As you guys saw with the itinerary and everything planned. So that's kind of nice. I feel like I feel like I travel completely differently when I travel with a kid than without. And Alex, I feel like you'll be figuring this out. I mean, you already know that. Like right now, it's a different kind of different. - Yeah, kind of. - We've also traveled with you and we know how grossly irresponsible you are when we've got to take care of you. And you know what it's like traveling with you. But having a kid, you know what it's like for us when we all travel together. - The only disappointing thing is you can't leave a kid with the bar tab. - That's true. - You guys should do that to me. - Well, I could try. - What are they gonna do? Like they're probably not gonna make her pay. She's 12. - Yeah. - That's a good point. - She has to be more Italian than I do. - That was really funny. I forgot about that one. - Oh, that was okay. You remember when you were asking if I was ever annoyed with you guys? That, that specific moment. - So airport Miami, when you stuck me with a like $600 bar tab. - I just wish we had spent more. - To be fair, three of those 100 were you. And there was eight of us. I mean, that's the crazy part. Because you were half the bill. There was eight of us. Well, I'd been there all along. - Like I said earlier. - That is true. That was still a very well-executed break. Oh, god, that's fun. - But no, I'm hoping for no awful travel stories. We're flying. We have to connect and destroy. - Yeah. - That reminds me of the Delta app really quick to make sure that I'm right or ripped tomorrow. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't forget to mess with the hotels too. - Yeah, we're all, we're all set. I'm excited to go. I mean, any tips I've never been to Italy. - Yeah, don't, um, don't have your roommate get murdered. That didn't work out well for that one, girl. - Yeah, I was in, I was in the, I was in Prague when that was going on. I was just telling a friend this story. And I remember telling my roommates. I was like, "If I come back to the apartment "and something's happened to either of you, "I'm calling the police, I'm going to the embassy, "not in that order." (laughing) - Yeah, that's probably smart. That's probably smart. Did Hazel actually learn some Italian for this trip? - She's been doing dueling for like six months on Italian. - That's impressive. - So like, I, like, there was a restaurant today that somebody recommended that we go to and they didn't do online reservations. So I had to call them today to like set up a reservation for lunch on Friday. And I was like, "Hazel, how do I say D-Speaking English?" And they're like, "I'm going to choose help me out "on some of this stuff." And I was like, "Don't forget to learn how to tell people "you're vegetarian." And she was like, "Oh, I already did that." And told me the phrase. So she's like, "She's a lot more prepared than I am." - That's, she's more prepared than I've literally ever been for any trip of my entire life. (laughing) - Gadget, she's gonna be fun. - That would be fun. - That would be great. - That's the worst. - That's the worst. - Well good, how long you guys going for again? - 10 days. - Perfect. So if there's no one else going over and join us from Hungary? - I did think about it. But no, this is my first week off. So I'm gonna go disappear for a bit. - I was just gonna say 10 days. So yeah, if anybody, if there's ever anything that you guys, anybody watching, especially on YouTube, have noticed that you like in Tim's apartment, it will be vacant for the next 10 days. - Hey, see him. Can you step out real quick? I just wanna show people that there's somebody gonna be here when I'm gone. So nobody steals from me. (laughing) - He's not staying. - He's not staying. - He definitely is. - He won't mind. - He's not gonna protect your stuff with his life. It's not his stuff. It's fine. If anything, now you have to break it. You can just knock and it'll answer the door. So it actually works. - Yeah. - It actually works. - There's the guard dog. So we're good. - I'm sad. - Yeah. - I feel fine. - Okay. - How is everybody's weekend? - It's pretty solid. I burned out on some bricks. - Yeah. Yeah. Before we get to that, how was your guys weekend? - Well, we're gonna cover my weekend on Thursday's episode. - Okay, fair enough. - My weekend was good and I just got the Delta app and I've got some flight stuff up here. (laughing) - I can start to have you literally as Tim's reservation on for the YouTube cancel. - Potentially. - I don't know. Depends on how well he is. - Do that. - Let's see. - What can I do? - You ask. Can you please move him to beside the bathroom in the middle seat? - I don't know. I might start playing with a lot of things right now. - I would rather you not, please. (laughing) - Let's just read it right here. Let's read it right here. You have my Delta itinerary, right? - I have your social security number and credit card. - So if you want to start escalating this fight. - There's his boarding pass. (laughing) - I have literally everything. - Oh no. - This is really fun for me. - Thanks for me. - Thanks for spending time with me. - Anyways, congrats on your head. - My weekend was great. Kelly took a little time for herself and went to visit a friend. - Nice. - I had a little girl's trip, which was great for her and great for me, because that meant that I got a lot of uninterrupted time with little Benny Boy. A lot of them, some very bad habits, which is awesome. Took him to a Monster Truck show. Well, hot wheels. - Hell yeah. - Monster Truck show, which was cool. - Sick. - Love it. - What is that? - Game bridge. So it's not like, it's not Monster Jam. It's like glow in the dark, monster trucks, and it's kind of more choreographed a little bit for kids. - Cool. - So it's in a smaller arena, like you don't need a football stadium. And it was pretty awesome. And for a 15 month old, he made it like 45 minutes. And the only reason that we had to go was 'cause he was sick of the headphones being on. And like, I couldn't keep them in there without his headphones on. That'd be unfair. - Ultra irresponsible. He was like, "In do it and pay attention and clapping when the trucks came." So that was cool. It was fun moment for me. - Please. - See how that was my weekend. - So you didn't go to Brickyard 400, as we were saying. - Yeah, I mean, if I'm in a nap, I might as well do it for my couch. (crying) - Okay, so here it is. Here it is. Let's talk about it. - End quote, Tweet. - That's not my opinion. That's just, it's a funny thing. Funny segue. - That is both the opinion of Alex and of his sponsors in team. (laughing) - Okay. - But like, - And Fox, - Is it though? - But is it though? - Is it though? - I don't know. - I'm gonna be honest. I don't watch a lot of NASCAR races. I watch the day's home of 500. I watch the like championship race in Phoenix. I watch the Brickyard. - And I mean, - And I mean, - Of course or two. - Unlikely. - Okay. - Like I watched a little bit of that San Diego thing in the Bob. - Yeah. - I watched Chicago the first couple years. - Yeah. - And like that's it. Like I don't, I don't follow NASCAR enough to really have an opinion. One way or the other? - So I think what's important, and obviously we're talking about the interview that takes and gave where he said that NASCAR races are long. I'm paraphrasing in that like they're good for a nap. But like this was a video interview. And it was very, he laughed when he said it. Like he was being a bit tongue in cheek and being a bit sarcastic. - And he was asked about in the context of if IndyCar races should be longer, right? - Right. - Right. - And so that was taken, I guess, And just like someone's decided to make that completely out of context and make it sound like it was some pointed dig at cop and try to just go like super high on mighty about it, which was funny because I think majority of the NASCAR paddock agrees with Scott's sentiment. And like, yeah, fine, maybe not the napping part, but that the races are too long like very high profile drivers and former drivers have already voiced that opinion. And this one person decided to like go really like home lander about it. Like it was such a such a weird thing that they posted. Is there a reason we're not saying her name? I'm okay with that. Yeah, because I genuinely think it was it was a clickbait attempt to get more clicks and recognition. And I've never heard of this person. I don't know what they've done. I know now what they do, but like I genuinely think it was for attention. So we're not going to give them that noted. But here's the thing about it. And Alex, I don't know if you have any on this and I probably already said too much. But to me, it came across as like very clickbaity, but then also somebody that's actually from a from a like a television world, not from the racing world. Again, I don't know nothing about this person's past or what they've done before. But it seems to me that this person doesn't actually know much about motorsports. There are there a TV presenter and they got an opportunity in a motorsports thing. This wasn't like a motorsports person that got a TV opportunity. It didn't seem like the reason I say that is because anybody that's got a genuine passion for motorsports, right? You can appreciate the different types of motorsports. And you would never say something like like don't let the door hit you on the way out to a guy who is just got the greatest racing drivers of the modern era, right? And of any motorsport. Like that's just it's just kind of disrespectful to a degree that I don't think anybody, even if you're not a fan of the series, you wouldn't necessarily say that. Yeah, you're probably a divisive character. It's not like he's a, you know, he's not a love him or hate him kind of guy. It's a love him or love him like Scott Scott Dixon, Scott Dixon, right? It was just a weird take a weird comment. It seemed like a pretty disrespectful comment for somebody that's like a absolute goat of the sport. Period. Yeah. I have a weird take and we're like disrespectful comment that I want to talk about, but to kind of end this discussion. Like I think you're right. And everything that you're saying, but also I do think that there's a lot of I'm going to play devil's advocate here and maybe as ill advised is the wording of the tweet. Maybe I also don't know this person. So this is in a friend of mine that I'm sticking up for or anything. But like we all have our favorite forms of motorsport and we all try and defend our favorite forms of motorsport. And maybe this was just it's hard to read the context of a tweet as well. Right. And maybe it was taken a little bit out of context. And while it's disrespectful to Scott, like this person was also just trying to big up their sport and how it's the best and everything else is kind of secondary. Like they weren't they were trying to put him down if they were trying to big up their sport. They were said, hey Scott come do a season of cop and tell us, you know, let's see. Let's see how you're holding up after 400 miles. They are doing that last 100 miles. Right. No, that's because I feel like every time someone challenges us, like, well, we get a lot of, you know, from other open wheel fans is like oval racing is down or easy. All you're turning left. Right. And you don't shoot down for me. The one you say, all right. Let's come try it. Come see how easy it is. I'm great point. Yeah. But I don't know. Neither here nor there. That is true. The other big, there's a lot of controversy surrounding IndyCar and NASCAR over the weekend Saturday was the extended erase. And I don't know his name Carson Kaffaple. He was the first time winner. He was obviously super pumped was celebrating cup. You do these big smokey burnouts which are badass. But the kind of like unwritten rule and the spoken rule from. I don't even think it's under it and told. Yeah. Is that whatever you do don't do a burn out over the bricks. These are, you know, kind of original bricks and it's a very, you know, fundamental part of this racetrack is part of a national historic like landmark. So like there's a lot of history and reason that we're trying to protect these bricks. So please don't do a burn out over it. Nonetheless, he made a mistake. He's a kid first time win. Whatever. Right. Like I don't fault him for that. He got caught up in the moment. That's fine. But there was then a lot of like discourse on the internet about how from non-Indianapolis motor speedway fans or cup fans or whatever you want to call it about how it's not that big a deal. And why is this being made to be such a big deal and all that sort of thing. And again, everyone has their right to an opinion. But when we're talking about kind of weird tweets. There was, there was a tweet from reporter that was I'm going to read it because. I don't know. I don't really know what the point is. I know they're old bricks and I know they want them to look good and not potentially be damaged by a burn out. And I know there are people who care about this place with all their hearts and feel the sacredness of the bricks. But I just don't get worked up over this at all. And I don't I don't know what that what that tweet is trying to accomplish. Other than maybe also clickbait and trying to piss people off. But it's kind of a weird chance to take as a reporter that works in the Indie Carpathic. So I I'm completely with you on the on on the incident itself. And first time winner to get caught up maybe lost where he was. Maybe he just wasn't thinking about it because you know whatever. And by the way, I think it is important to note that I feel junior came out and said he unplugged his radio afterwards when he was celebrating the one and he had missed the reminder from NASCAR not to do the burn out. Yeah, it's fine. Accident. No, you know, it's a good point. It's a good point. What was what was we again was what was weird is all the was all the fan response right because you had the any car fans would get upset which fine. And then you had whether they were NASCAR fans or not like this is not a this is not a them versus right it was just the position you took on this particular topic regardless of what racing you like or don't like or whatever. And I want to be clear we like all racing so fans all around here. But the the comments sold out of the car. The fans that were upset about it I get where that comes from and fair. The fans that were then like on those fans. Like they're just bricks like what they were getting so so upset about something that like these people obviously cared about you don't care about and so you're trying to make them not care or you're literally them for caring about something I don't think that's cool because at the end of the day. If you wear your shoes in your house that's your that's your prerogative but if you go to someone else's house and they ask you to take your shoes off. Right so when you come to theapolis and you race and they ask you not to do burn on the bricks you don't do burn on the bricks again I give Carson past because for all the reasons we already stated but like. You can understand why the people that were upset were upset because there's like in this rule this spoken if I'm written but spoken rule. And it seemed like somebody kind of you know somebody did break the rule whether it was intentional or not right or conscious of doing it or not but just to try to get mad at somebody for having a belief in something or you know holding something you know personal and something that's important to them and it gets kind of like it's it's it's it's belittling the history of what makes that place but it's not a race it's not a race. Right we we've talked about this at length of the show and the generations of families and the traditions and the things that that place means it's not they were getting pissed off that a super sick painting. The real thing that was done to look cool on TV got ruined before the main event or something like that like this is this is this is a religion to some people right and you can't then just go say well that doesn't matter and I think that's your point James is like that's not right we're not going we're not going to Daytona and and messing with your stuff right so like right. People would be pretty mad if you started I don't know I don't even know what the equivalent is there because it hasn't been around for a hundred and some odd years so I chimed in online because what I initially saw was just everybody like going to the triolic against Carson and I just thought that was kind of ridiculous but I yeah I totally see what you guys were saying of that and they're even in me on my like thing on saying like I don't understand why people are so mad at Carson people started being like yeah the bricks are dumb and it was like well okay that's not the point I'm making that's like we're yeah it did turn into his way it's like if you go to Barbara and when the race and you go do donuts through every patch of grass you can find and dry over the state. Dry over the statues don't do that that's that's her thing don't do that it's just we just got nowhere and it's important support to people so just let people believe what they want to believe and hold important what they want to They want a little important. And. Whatever man. It's all good. Hey, get grass to Carson. He wanted the break here. It's a big deal. Love it. Any other, let's, let's cover the the break yard 400 on the third of the episode. Let's go ahead and call this for now. But yeah, you're everything. You have a spot to do. I don't do a burn out of the bricks. Sick ending. This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi. Off track is part of the Sirius XM sports podcast network. If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear more, please give a five-star rating and leave a review. Subscribe today wherever you stream your podcasts. We are at Ask Off track on Twitter and Instagram. And if you want to follow us on Twitter, we're at Hinch Town and at Alexander Rossi. 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