Reports US Will INVADE CUBA, We're Going In | Timcast IRL

The United States is preparing to invade Cuba. Well, they've been preparing to invade Cuba for months now. Cubans have been preparing for an invasion for months now. And this is pretty much why Hassan and a bunch of other leftists went to Cuba in the first place. But now we're getting breaking news. The U.S. is laying military groundwork for an actual invasion, testing whether or not they have the capabilities for a ground war. So it kind of sounds like we'll be taking Cuba, I guess. Now, the question is, are Americans going to tolerate threats of war considering the Iran war is dragging out? The midterms are coming up. We'll talk about all of this. Plus, we've got a bunch of crazy stories. There's a story trending on X today about a 15 year old black kid who mercilessly beat a nine year old white girl on a school bus. Yeah, it's fake, though. The actual story was three years ago. And this is going around by accounts that are from Africa, likely to game X to make money, as it is. 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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Larry Ward. Thanks for having me. This is going to be a fun, fun conversation, particularly, you know, talking about Cuba, A.I., Bernie Sanders and AOC running for president. AOC running for president, indeed. Yeah, she's talking about it. So who are you? What do you do? Larry Ward with Market Rhythm, Inc. We are a marketing tech company that has supported the right for quite a long time. We pretty much paved the path for the parallel economy starting back in 2005. Right on. Well. Good to have you. The boys are hanging out. Hello, everyone. I'm here. Just just so you know, ketchup is for fries, not guys. So that's a that's a thing like you don't put it on guys. What's up, Carter? Where's that? OK, yeah. Tim said that there was a hazing incident where there was a bunch of ketchup on guys. It doesn't go on guys. That is not to put on a guy thing for sure. What's up, Phil? What's up, Tim? 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Basically, what they're saying is they got surgeons. They're checking their their field medics. They're checking armaments. They are basically running the full check for for the military. Can we go to war with Cuba? Can we have a ground incursion into Cuba? Basically, are our ships capable of doing it? Do we have the military police capable for actually holding an occupation? It looks like this is just the next grain of sand in the heap for the U.S. invading Cuba. But you know what I'll say is we've gotten news throughout the year that the U.S. is preparing for this. What they're doing is they're poking us slowly. Over and over again. So by the time the invasion happens, we're going to roll our eyes and say, well, yeah, everybody knew they're not just going to come out and say, I hereby declare war and go in because I would shock too many people. Now I'm wondering why it is they're doing all this right before the midterms. Trump literally could have just waited until after the midterms literally won. He could have went to the day of the midterm to declare war and he still would have won. So I know that Ian is particularly excited about spreading democracy and American imperialism. So when? When did it become justifiable to invade countries without justification? When did it become justifiable to invade without justification? Afghanistan, I think. Afghanistan was the first time. I don't think so. I think. Do you mean? Afghanistan, they told us there was Iraq. They said there was. It was Libya, I think, was the first. Or was it Syria? Syria, they told us the reason. Libya, they just didn't like Gaddafi. They've had a reason every step of the way. The U.S. didn't invade Libya. U.S. forces and NATO were doing airstrikes and preventing anti-air stuff. But the U.S. didn't have like military. It wasn't the U.S. Just NATO. So NATO forces. I believe it was French. They were using French capabilities. The U.S. didn't invade. They set up Osprey Global Solutions in Libya after they conquered it. The U.S. didn't invade. Conquered. Hell yeah, different. I'm using the wrong words. It wasn't an invasion and they didn't conquer it. Gaddafi's down. Yeah, they didn't. Words have meaning. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not conquered because we came. We saw. We died when Hillary Clinton said that about Gaddafi. Stop. Who is we? We did not conquer Libya because we killed him and left and it's being run by tribal warlords and it has been since. And an invasion means like an invasion where you go in with troops on the ground and hold land. Well, then what would you call the mass immigration if it's not an invasion? I would call it an invasion. What ground's being held and by who? By the people who invaded. You're assuming that you have to go in and hold the territory like by force? That's what the word invasion means. Are you a civilian? Is that the semantic point here? In. If I'm standing across the street from you and throw a rock at your head and hit you, did I invade your home? With a rock? Yeah. No, I didn't. I threw a rock at you. Okay. No one's like I had a break. Someone broke in my house. Why? I'd say we're being attacked. And then if you set foot on the property, I'd say we're being invaded. Yeah. Right. So when NATO bombed a guy and killed him and tribal warlords took over, we did not invade or conquer Libya. And as far as like when the U.S. is, you know, when it was okay to invade, I mean, we invaded Grenada. We invaded Panama. Troops went in, you know. We invaded Hawaii. We did invade Hawaii, I guess. I don't want to blow up Trump's spot here, you know, because this is the same play that he did with Greenland. We're going to invade Greenland earlier in the year and we're going to take Greenland by military force. No. And now we wound up with actually a pretty sweet deal in Greenland. No, no, no. We never sent ships to surround. Was it Nook? Is that the name of the town in Greenland? We didn't surround them and cut them off from food and gasoline. You know, an oil. Trump was just like, we're not. A reporter asked the Trump admin, would they would they rule out using military action? And they said, we're not going to rule anything out. Why would we? And then the media ran with Trump threatens military action against Greenland, which he did not do. Cuba's been surrounded, sanctioned, embargoed and cut off from from oil and their power has gone out and their government's in disarray. That's that's preparing for an invasion. Or it's just putting economic pressure on them. Look, I I'd be surprised. Cuba is Cuba is like I hate saying it's like an ant in terms of, you know, a human up going up against an ant in in warfare. The United States can go and have taken Cuba any time it really wanted. All right. Unfortunately, fortunately, we haven't done so because it's not our place to do so. And I don't think that Trump is going to invade Cuba, particularly not before the midterms. I do think that he's putting pressure on to get. Regime change to get a more a more U.S. favorable government out of that. And it's it's it's just it's definitely a strategic military location because that's where we had the Cuban missiles. Indeed. But but it is an act of war to surround a nation with military vessels and block them from receiving imports. Yeah. I mean, if someone did that military blockade, if someone did that to us, yeah, we would we would see it as an act of war. Absolutely. Well, you know, in almost every historical circumstance, when you blockade an enemy's ports. Yeah. I think if you fly jets over their country, you're invading them by air. We did invade Libya with air troops, with airplanes. We just didn't put feet on the ground. Technically, if you're firing artillery into a country and likes arguing semantics, we'll give them that. I mean, if flying jets over somebody's country, it's aggressively. You can't occupy a street corner with it. With invasion does not equal occupation. Yeah. Invasion implies human beings are invading airspace. It's a definition. Yeah. No. And at what point did it become OK without a Cassus Belli for the U.S. to do it? It's never been OK. Like every single instance, even today, they always come up with some fake reason. So you can argue. You can argue they never needed a reason or they've always faked their reason. They usually fake it since World War Two. I haven't even Vietnam. They were like, we got to stop. Yeah. Venezuela was the unleashing of narco terrorists into the United States. Panama and Grenada were both invaded. U.S. forces landed. They had justification. They came up with a justification. But those were those two were. actual invasions that was in the you know i got i got to hand it to one of our discord members this is uh hroth magor says fun is a reason for things sometimes we're just gonna invade cuba for fun you know our troops are getting bored we got to give them a victory huh so let's go take cuba we need some victory cigars i mean but but this is what a lot of european colonists did they were like hey let's go conquer an island like yeah and they're all excited and happy and then they do and they're like that was great i think javier malay is saying the british he wants them out of the falcon islands because they haven't conquered it in the 80s or early 80s i don't know conquered yeah the british took the falcons i don't know a lot about it falclins thank you well you know the british invasion i mean look at the rock industry in the 60s i'm i'm not pro uh cuban invasion um but you know if if we can get cuban cigars here i would be pro cuban cigars not not pro cuban invasion but pro cuban most of the cuban cigars actually uh grown in honduras though they're now they're really yeah kind of ready for like total world conquest of just like technocrat china america russia just like conquer the world and all these ridiculous individuals these people that these these these these little comp it's just so exhausting man that seems like that's what's happening right now almost that they just put their brains and machines and and make them see each other's point of view and stop killing just take it all by force like i don't know what you got to do it invade it's kind of a black pill look at it to be like just get it over with because there's it's never going to be like over with well there's there's never going to be a situation where like you have total world peace whether you have one world government or not like even if there was one world government there would be factions fighting against it there would be you know revolts there would be all kind there would still be strife because you can't like different people from different places have different needs and one world government can't you know satisfy the needs of all the all the different people in the different places in the world i i think trump is is the whole trump doctrine is about um isolating the western hemisphere i think he wants north and south america to be the united states of america at some point or all friendly to the united states of america where he has you know where the united states government has complete control over yeah that's that's really his his his focus that's why you know greenland was so important to him because it protects the northern uh this space it's it's also why he went and took you think greenland has anything to do with the golden dome program yes 100 that's that's my that's my intuition too because everything from basically asia anyway the fastest way to get to the u.s we go over the the north pole and so it it seems like if they're going to build a missile defense system you're going to want to have greenland i mean obviously alaska is a big part of it but i think it's going to be a big part of it and i think it's a big part will be would be a big part of that too but you'd need some kind of significant landmass so if the u.s can build and i'm all for the golden dome right like that policy seems or that project seems like a great policy to me so what is it golden dome it's basically the iron dome but over the u.s to and trump and trump named it that's why it's a body it's gold yeah he likes gold so it's a golden dome yeah look if you actually take a look at the map of the you know strategically just from above you you it it makes perfect sense why greenland was so important militarily and and you know quite frankly i think trump is trying to create this defensive dome over our country over our nation i think we've got this story from cbc trump is trying to conquer the west to create the united nations of america which the terrible name i don't know carney's comments over possibility of u.s invasion reveal how contingency plans are always in place uh the canadian prime minister said that he thinks trump wants to invade canada i know ian's really you know been demanding u.s military action in canada for for not you know for years so crazy yeah well you know i just can't agree with you and i i think i don't think we should invade canada i don't think so either but uh the idea of invading canada the the idea that they believe that the u.s wants to invade canada i mean that's thinking a little highly of themselves like you're you're especially i gotta stop you there ian i mean invading canada is a terrible idea but this the problem is with the goofy rhetoric that joking around about it has tweaked out the boomers in canada i really believe it and they also see the u.s like erratically preparing to invade cuba and like throwing their weight around this attacking here and attacking there and attacking venezuela you're never attacking our gb yeah and so for trump to say that it might happen and then for like we've joked around about it so many times and like i'd keep you guys stop stop stop and then mark carney gets elected as a result and like and he's like americans are gonna invade canada it's never going to happen i don't know if he ran on that that we gotta defend just in case they're they might just should should should we nuke canada i don't think so the funny thing about this canadians get really mad like yeah they do the joke i was just making about ian wanting to invade canada they're not actually going to investigate it's kind of like a bunch of boomer angry comments on x being like ian you're crazy it's kind of like when an employee when a boss jokes to an employee about firing them like to the boss it doesn't mean anything they're like it's a joke but to the employee that actually is a legitimate threat and are you scared canadians are going to come after you no i'm afraid that they're going to shore up and join the chinese and actually allow the chinese to invade not that the chinese are going to invade the chinese are like our greatest allies and you've argued for annexing palestine that's the joke the 51st state well that was like instead you've argued for spreading u.s democracy as as canada does not have democracy that's the joke yeah canada man i would love to see i would love to see them self-governed i don't like seeing kingdoms i'm not a big fan of mono you know monocracy or whatever the hell you call what do you consider canada's votes then what are their votes yeah like i mean they do they vote right they're they're a province of china at this point yeah right if you've been to vancouver recently it's a province of china ian's in his god well concerned with the fact that the king is still the king of canada and he's concerned with the monarchy so i'm i'm wondering what do you think do you think their votes are just symbolic do you think the king installs whoever he wants he he he installs the governor general who can disband parliament so the parliament kind of bows to the governor general that's a big problem but do you think that that actually happens or do you think that that they're actually left to you know govern themselves and the king actually wouldn't do anything unless it was exceedingly drastic well if you look at australia in the 60s they had their governor general um fired basically by the king wasn't it the 70s was it this is a great story that was 50 years covered on this show before it was a big like a cia op where they they got the governor general taken out of office because he wasn't playing ball he was too australia for australians and they wanted him to be no australia for the british so yeah i think it could happen again no no no i i didn't think that i'm not asking if it's possible i'm asking do you think they govern themselves generally no when they're governed by the king so you so they don't vote and get and and have the party that they vote the people that they vote for don't actually have any power it's all the king pulling the strings how do you say that that's what i'm asking you extreme position no i would say he doesn't do all of it but i would say he's in charge and owns if i was the king and people were like why can't we govern ourselves i'd be like can we set up a system where they think they govern themselves but i'm still let's look at this show for instance how many of you here in this room think that you have any right to say whatever the fuck you want and to take over this show at any moment it's we're all on this show participating this is any moment bro could just turn the lights off pull the plugs and tell us all to get the fuck out or he's calling the cops it's not true actually it's your property i can't i don't have control of the show or the lights carter does carter he's fired and then kick him out and be like are you calling the cops if you don't leave right now it's not a country it's a monarchy kind of that country's a monarchy yeah same listen this room is a monarchy yeah literally it's a corporation i am the the king the same thing goes for all that remains if i want to say if i say to someone all that remains you're out they're out they're out they're out they're out they're out the king has similar power in canada he just doesn't exercise it like tim doesn't fire people every day but i agree with ian um it is strange to me that people genuinely believe the king would retain his rights and and in the decrees for these these commonwealth nations he would retain all that power and just never be exercising it it doesn't the thing that i'm trying to get out with ian though are asking that i'm you know kind of interrogating him over is do the votes in canada matter to the people and i don't think they do you don't think they do absolutely not i i do our votes matter we got a republican trifecta they couldn't pass the save act 80 of this country in every single poll is like yeah pass you just think that and not that i'm a pro-democracy person i'm actually pretty let's do this pretty against democracy but you think the democracy is actually not not enough not a uh not in effect in countries like canada and like you know about the plutonomy memo no let me see if i can uh old old old from 2005 we do not live in a constitutional republic city group wrote that we live in a plutonomy we have seen study after study we have seen uh survey after survey analysis of government the votes of the people the polls and the elected representatives do not sway the bills that get passed that's yeah i'm aware of that overwhelming the bills that get passed are at the behest of powerful special interest groups and it has been that way my whole life So that's why I agree with Ian. I think that the king, let's, Ian, you make a great point. If I said, if I went like this to everybody watching the show, I am magnanimous. For dinner, I will let the people decide. Everybody watch as we all vote on whether or not, you better say pizza. Anyway, what did you vote for? And then when, when everybody, I like that too. The kimchi pizza, dude. I want to get kimchi after the show. Kimchi pizza. That'd be so good. The point is when the king, and this is your point, I believe, I agree with you. When the king goes to parliament or whatever and says, you know what I want to happen? They say, I'm not going to tell the king. No. I mean, think about it. If Donald Trump goes to a member of Congress and he says, I want this done. They go, okay. And the ones that don't lose and they're gone. I've got kind of a good analogy for this. I think it was the beach boys that had like one of their dads or managers or something was like, they had a fake mixing board. So like he was, they wanted him to think that he was controlling stuff, but actually it wasn't really working. They were, you know, doing their own thing and he was just pretending, you know, usually with, with democracy along that it, it seems like in it, probably particularly in Canada, they let the people vote and it works until they vote for something that totally violates what the king wants. And then the king will be like, nah, okay. We got to similar to the U S you see it happen. Like if people wanted to sit, you know, 95% of the population wants something, but Congress is like, yeah, it's not going to happen. Like the save act. Well, but I mean. And then they fake it. They fake reasons. Oh, I, you know, I just don't have the votes to do it. Fair enough. But the, the, the thing that you just laid out, the example you just laid out, if Donald Trump goes to people and says, blah, blah, blah, then they generally do it, but he wants the save act and the save act isn't getting passed. That's, that's true because maybe Trump's not the king. Well, I mean, I said, well, maybe the king's the king. Trump isn't the king, but we, there isn't a king in the United States. There's special interests. There's groups that are, that have, that are powerful in that. I think, I think the authority, well, it's a question of when, when you say the king, uh, it's where is the real authority lying? And it's clearly not with Trump. I mean, he's, he's, he's amassed a great deal of power outside of these intel agencies, but the United States is functionally different. I'd imagine if, uh, the king of Canada went to the solicitor, what is it? What is it? Not solicitor general. Governor general. Governor general. And just said, make it happen. I mean, look, you go, you go to the members of parliament, you're gonna be like, are you going to defy the king? And they're going to be like, what does it really mean to defy the king? Well, it means a guy in a suit's. He's going to show up and he's going to find, uh, uh, drugs in your car and they're going to, and you're going to be a disgraced member of parliament. And how do you prove the drugs weren't yours? You can't goodbye. You're gone. It is so insanely easy to maintain power, political power. I mean, let's just be real. If like the, the worst thing that you could ever have happened to you as an upstart politician is that they primary you like Thomas Massey. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The best thing. If like, if they're saying you're a, you're a thorn in our foot and you're gone, then they primary you. If the government. Really wants to, if the intelligence agencies really want to, they have many methods and means by which to dispatch you, uh, this mortal coil. They could, um, you know, you got into a car accident, you got mugged, or the easiest is they just say, Hey, look, we pulled you over and there's cocaine in your trunk. That's it. Your career is over. You'll never get elected again. You're going to resign in disgrace. Look at Swalwell. Swalwell was going to be governor. He was trying to move up. They didn't want him to. So they burned his life to the ground. Well, he deserved it, but here's, here's the, here's the thing. Look, you know, if we just kept the constitution, the way it was written, we have answers for this. This, the, the Senate would be, uh, would be appointed by the States and there would be 6,000 members of Congress. Um, most people don't realize that we, we, we didn't really, we're not supposed to just keep 400. It's a population that should, uh, that should be represented by a member of Congress. It's a certain. So we should have thousands of members of Congress, not 435. Would that number of Congress people make Congress more or less dysfunctional? It would make it more functional because it's much harder. It's much easier to, uh, to put together, uh, a, a, uh, you know, control over 435 people who meet in the building in Washington, DC than it is to control 6,000 people. You can't fit all in one building. And, and that's the problem is they like the building too much. So they can, they can find it to, to just 435 when in, in, in reality, the constitution demanded that there should be thousands of members of Congress. And that's, that would be much, much harder to control, much more expensive for the lobbyists to go to every single office and, and tap on every single shoulder and get all the, the blackmail and, and bribery and stuff. You know what? I think it's true that it's easy to condemn your, your political opponents and maintain political power. I've been thinking a lot about Andrew Tate, but I'll get back to that in a second. Cause it's important. We talk about it. The like within the age of digital, it seems like as technology is advancing, it becomes even easier to maintain a stranglehold on power with like, I could put child porn on your computer from a distance and then be like, we found child porn on your computer. So it's like planting drugs in your car digitally. And like Andrew Tate, I'm not saying that he didn't do any crimes, but the brother has been in solitary confinement for like 68 days straight. The oubliette, they threw him away. They want us to forget he's suffering in a prison. Cell like in the United States. I will. Um, Andrew brother. Sure. Is Tristan also is that the brother, this brother I'm talking about. Andrew is like a brother and a brother man alive on the earth, a human, but his brother also might be, I don't know if he's in solitary, but, but Andrew, look, I don't, I don't really even know. I don't know the guy that well, I don't like him at face value. I think what he did was horrendous. If he was trafficking young children, if he was, you know, whatever, all these horrible things, but he's an American citizen and he hasn't been found guilty of a crime on the U S soil. How is he? In solitary confinement. This is like, you gotta, this is it. This is when you stand up for the people you don't necessarily like. I don't know how to describe it. It's it's. If there was a guy and he had a mustache and he was at a sex trafficker for sure. You knew for sure. Would you say it's a good thing that he was placed? He was arrested and they threw him in solitary. I don't know about, because I don't know about torturing. Like solitary is a form of torture. I think it's good. He's off the street and he's not trafficking, but I don't know that. You necessarily got to like get your jollies off by watching him suffer. You know what I think? I think the, uh, the laws don't matter. And I think the machine has rules, the law enforcement apparatus, the governments, they have rules. It doesn't matter what the laws say. It matters that you don't break their rules and they're not going to tell you what their rules are. The Tate's, uh, accused of whatever's they're doing. Uh, they were doing freaky dicky stuff. They were doing only fan stuff. I think that's, that's all well, established and known. I don't, I don't know the full details. Maybe I'm wrong on some of this, but I think the real reason they're going after the Tate brothers is because they don't believe the Tate brothers should be allowed to be rich. They are rich, wealthy, and influential, and they break the rules of the machine. There's acceptable wealth that you can have. And if you're not part of that club, you're not part of that club. We are chickens in a chicken coop. Well, that's why they hate Trump. Look, indeed, Trump is a, Trump is a guy from Queens. He grew up in the same place I was born. So I understand this. He's the, he's the, you know, he's the guy who's made his money in, in gambling. He made his money in casinos and, and hotels. And he got some money from his dad. And all of a sudden he's a billionaire. He doesn't belong in our club. That's why they hate him is because he, you know, he made his money in unsavory ways. And that's what they accuse him of still to this day. Yeah. So the reason why I say this, because I know you're getting a lot of anti Tate people being like, Tim, he did all these horrible things. I'm not saying he did or didn't. I'm saying, I'm saying the Epstein files. Thank you. And have a nice day. There are people that absolutely need to be locked up that somehow aren't. And then they go after the Tate brothers, which by all means, if they did bad things, fine, arrest them, you know, criminally charged them and all that. But it is very obvious to everybody. When you do, there are haves and have nots and whether or not you actually have money. Isn't a question of being a have or have not. I think there's a handful of people that you can take a look at in crypto. I don't believe I'll put it this way. The machine does not want people who are not connected and part of the machine to have wealth through crypto or influence the very least. There have been many people associated with Bitcoin who have been wrongly imprisoned and they threw away the key or seize their assets. I think they saw the rise of crypto. They didn't expect it initially. And they said, we have a plan for working with crypto now, and these guys control too much of it. Take them down. Yeah, it was Roger Vare. One of those guys. I don't know a lot about his. Probably he was like a big Bitcoin guy in the early 2010s. He was a handful of people that have a lot of Bitcoin in Bitcoin and they've been placed under house arrest or had their assets seized because crypto slipped outside the confines of the of the petrodollar. Crypto slipped. Oh, I thought that's what you're going to say. Sorry. No. And and they and they're regaining control. That's now I will tell you that is narrative control. Like that's why they want Tate locked away right now because he can't spew. His thoughts, which would it's not about his thoughts. You think it's more than no, I think it's about him gaining wealth and influence through a mean they don't want crypto specifically. Yeah, exactly. So they did a bunch of crypto stuff back in the day that helped make them a lot of money and then used it to become big influencers. We saw in their defense that most of the stuff they have isn't real. It's just it's social media marketing. They are extremely wealthy, but just not as wealthy as wealthy as you'd think. They don't actually own these yachts. At least that's what their defense said. I think that if if you, - If you get rich through look at Martin Shkreli, for instance, my understanding is like he didn't break any laws and they criminally charged him. What was this? It's been a long time. I forget the exact story, but it was like he they said it was fraud because, well, I can't remember the exact story. He raised the price of insulin from like. That's not how he made his money. So that's the way he made his money. But the criminal charges, I mean, it was something like, yes, his investments were sound. Yes, everyone gave him the money. But because he didn't disclose something properly, it was fraudulent, even though I can't remember what it was. Securities fraud. But right. It was a specific thing that was a weird technicality because everybody made money. Nobody lost money, but they argued it's still fraud anyway because he lied about something underneath. And that's what they tried doing to Trump. They said, oh, you gave financial financial asset disclosure forms to a bank, but the person who drafted it put the wrong square footage for your penthouse. Therefore, Trump committed fraud. That's the that's the game they're playing. It's like if you are not in the machine, if you're not part of the game, you are not allowed to have this money. And that look that that comes from that comes from the Soviet Union. You know, show me the show me the person. I'll show you the crime that that's that's how this justice system is working. Instead of, you know, finding a crime and investigating it to find the person there, they're they're basically looking at the person and finding, you know, a crime. But it's basically just like, who are the people are looking? Well, Shkreli got very wealthy. And then the machine said, we can't allow that person to have that much money. Take him out. I think Kanye got a little bit a taste of that, too. He got really rich. Well, here's here's the other here's here's the other secret to the people you don't understand. Ye was a billionaire because he had a contract. He had a he had a value of a contract that raised his net worth, which is a silly way to do things. But they did. So there's a question of how much money they actually have and how much they actually lose. We don't know. He lost a contract that was worth nearly a billion. The Tate thing has really been under my skin for about a week and a half since I mean, he's like, you can see that the torture that he's being tortured, he's he's essentially they want extra item to wear Romania. Is that where it is or Britain? UK. UK. So look, I love you guys. You British dudes are awesome. King, you're probably cool. But hands off the Americans like he's an American citizen. He hasn't done an American crime. He's British. Is he? Does he have American citizenship? Yeah, I think he has both. So he's an American technically. Yeah, but he's looking if you want to be a dual citizen, comes with that comes with, you know, interesting subject jurisdiction. So if you have jurisdiction, if you have dual citizenship, and you commit a crime in one country, does the other country have a duty to I think that it's only I think they only have jurisdiction over their own place. And the argument is that he did something when it comes to human trafficking in the UK, whether I think or sexual assault in the UK. So which is not I'm not laws are tougher here than the UK. You just we have we have extradition treaties with the UK. So UK says you commit a crime, we want them. They said, Okay, that's, that's risky, because I think these doesn't have charges now US charges to he could, I don't know. Yeah. I think I think the reality is, you know, look, I don't know them. I'm sure they've done shady stuff, whatever. But the question remains, why not literally any of the other high profile wealthy creepos? Oh, I know. Yeah, he doesn't have any American charges right now. However, he's being held in solitary. In America, he's held no charges. He's got he's fighting extradition. He's got 59 charges, including rape and sex trafficking from the UK. Jeez. Look, for all I know, he's an evil human, but it's like he still has his legal rights. It's devastating to see this guy locked up. Maybe they think he's a flight risk or something. But come on, guys, like, John Adams represented the British area for the for like, you know, stuff you're charged with. So that's kind of weird. They just keep charging and the charges keep falling apart. Like what's what's going on? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if he needs because you can't part. That's why I'm saying like, if if look like all the money I have, I was allowed to have. And I've talked about this before. They could ban me from YouTube whenever they want. They've suppressed my channels. They literally control the flow of viewership, influence and revenue. And by they I mean, YouTube, Google, their friends in politics. They decide yesterday we talked about this. Candace Owens is featured in the marquee that it's the masthead for YouTube. So if you go to YouTube dot com on a on a brand new computer and you go to their live section, she's she's. So what they do for Candace, we did have this for a while. Anybody who goes to YouTube live is automatically watching Candace Owens stream. So she's getting a massive spike in viewership. And then in recent streams, they show three videos. It was Candace, Candace, Candace. It was yesterday, the day before and the day before that all of their recent streams. They are deciding. They want her to be the top, the biggest show. It's a choice. Oh, it's it's it's it's clear what it is. I mean, what they're trying to do is is she's the biggest wedge in the conservative MAGA movement. She's she's the wedge that's splitting the party in two. So, of course, they want that. Yeah. The people that are making the decisions of who gets to have money. Do you think they sit around and have each other execute, like have each other assassinated, like the proletarian guard of old, like the old. Secret deep state psychos that were having each other killed for power constantly, like power struggles behind the scenes. It's a no one knows the answer, but I'm asking if you you think it's that bad or are they all gentlemen with their Swiss banks and then they all just share the probably until one of them does something the other ones don't like. Yeah, I think if the if if the case were like powerful people were being offed in a very ruthless and cutthroat manner, you'd probably hear more about more murders of wealthy people. Like you hear about the stuff. If you dig into like what's going on in Russia, you hear about the people that Putin decides that he doesn't want to be hassled by anymore. Right. Right here. Just recently, you have all the scientists that were going missing and murdered or suspiciously unalived. Did any of those people ever show back up? I don't think so. Not alive as far as I know. But I mean, like when I was talking about when I was talking about Putin, like you hear about, you know, journalists that were jumped off of buildings, but they were, you know, they were likely thrown or. So he literally shot down the helicopter of the guy that tried to have a coup. The guy from the Wagner was military. Yeah. The leader of the Wagner group tried to, you know, attempted a coup or whatever. And, you know, Putin was like, no, it's fine. And then a couple of weeks later, he shot his helicopter down like that kind of stuff. You know, it gets out. So if there was actually a situation where there were a lot of people that were not even a lot of people, you imagine people that were very, very, very wealthy. And very, very, very influential. If those people were offing each other, you'd hear about the murders. You'd hear about that stuff. It's far more likely that they, you know, collude than decide to kill each other in cutthroat manners and stuff like that. That's a little more, you know, more fantasy, I think, just because. Do you think, though, if they decide who gets to be rich and who doesn't, they can control what we get to know and what we don't, though? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think. I don't think they decide who gets to be rich so much as they decide if someone isn't allowed in the club. Like if someone, because there are people that, you know, there are different levels of rich. Like you can be a very wealthy person, you know, have like 10, 20, 30 million net worth or what have you. And I think that you pretty much still fly under the radar. But if you get into the multiple billions, not just a billion, probably, you know, multiple billions, and you're someone they don't like, then, you know, maybe they would have, you know, put an effort in to get you, get some kind of situation where you lose your money or they might collude against you. So that way you're no longer, you know, a threat to the club. Like the Russia collusion, you know, like the fake impeachment. Yeah, I mean, that's what they did to Trump. I mean, specifically. Excuse me. I think the stuff with Trump, though, is more about the amount of power that he had because of the fact that he was the president. Not so much about the money. Because he was, you know, worth like 10 billion or something like that, or between 5 and 10 billion before he ran. And he basically didn't have. It wasn't the money. Everybody loved him, you know. He was the influence. Yeah, everybody loved him. Trump's first controversial moment, in my opinion. I mean, he's had controversial moments his whole career. But his first big one in the national political stage is when he questioned Obama's birth. Yeah. And, you know, put, what was it, $5 million on. Whether or not he could produce a birth certificate. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, quite frankly, they did produce a birth certificate, but it was definitely Photoshopped. I will say that being in the graphics business, I'll tell you, it was Photoshopped. But that's a whole other conversation. But that's when he stepped into the political circle in a big-time way that upset the apple cart. And that's what I think a lot of people turned against him. Yeah, I mean, that would make sense. You know, I mean, Barack Obama was definitely kind of the anointed one to go from, you know, junior senator for two years to running for president. To go from Kenyan-born to. Kidding. Yeah, I think he, I actually do think that he was born in Hawaii. But the fact that he was raised in Indonesia definitely makes people, you know, question, hey, how American is this guy? He's born in Hawaii, which the mainland and Hawaii are real different places. Like the. the culture there is very, very different. - Yeah, I used to tell a somewhat distasteful joke joke you know when obama had was running for his uh for for president and then he had to like pause his campaign because his his grandmother that well he went to hawaii to check on his grandmother like a week before and because and she was one kind of was spouting out that he was he was born in kenya um and i you know i wonder if he uh if he gave her a pillow that's horrible um but yeah i mean you know you it i do understand why people question you know question if he's really american the way that someone that you know the way that his wife is right like michelle obama was born in i think it was alabama and she was raised in in the united states she lived her whole life in the united states with with barack obama he was born in hawaii and and raised mostly in indonesia and then came back to the states and so you do you do you do kind of wonder you know how how in touch with americans is someone that spent his formative years in another country living in a a different culture you know that was born on born in hawaii it's like yes he is an american because he was born in at least my in my opinion he was born in hawaii he's he's an american citizen but he doesn't have the same kind of understanding of americans that again like his wife does you know whether or not you agree with her opinions you know she was born in in the south and she was raised here and same thing with you know basically every other president that that we've ever had they were born in the united states they lived their life here whereas barack obama you know was raised somewhere else and all the formative years were in in a different country you know so it doesn't make me wonder you know how how how much does he understand the american population you know well he understands that he doesn't like it um you know he he was reading books as president the end of america you know it was the name of the book um so you know it it he understands it enough that you know he and and it's not just him it's his whole dsa movement well yeah that just hates america um absolutely despises everything that that uh we stand for that we were made for and wants to you know fundamentally change you know hope and change america into you know their utopian socialist uh paradise you know the thing is though that trump also you i wouldn't say that he hates america but he is extremely critical like he's saying we have to make it great it's not great like when you say my country's not great you're basically telling me my country sucks well it's not great the same thing but he's insinuating the country's a hellhole and that we need to make it great again because it's no longer great it's kind of like the whole like hope for the future like i don't know that obama ever gave off the vibe that he hated it that well he was acknowledging how bad saying we have hope and for change is the same thing it's like saying make america great it's it's the exact same yeah literal translation it's the same emotive uh invocation yeah so what is um obama literally is he the dsa guy was he is he directly involved with dsa guys or the dsa i never heard of yeah absolutely well i mean he's not formally with the dsa no not formally but but the the whole movement um was was i mean the same the same movement he was with you know the the uh what was that the weather underground i mean those those were no he he wasn't but uh he was he was mentored by mentored by the prancis fox piven and ran yeah clout clout violent violent people from the weather underground were they some of them were mentoring barack obama the weather underground was a terrorist organization they committed a bunch of bombings they what was it they killed they killed people in a bank robbery or something like that and that's uh francis fox piven was that her name yep cloward piven cloward piven is a strategy yeah but from francis uh piven francis francis fox piven and bill ayers yeah the the weather underground was extremely violent there in the early early 70s like 70 between 70 and 72 there were something like 2 000 bombings not all attributed to the uh the weather underground but something like 2 000 in the united states like as much as we talk about the conditions deteriorating in the u.s now uh it's significantly better than it was in the early 70s well this is cool i asked if all of the weather underground was violent and it said no there's a group called students for a democratic society and that was the big aspect of it and they were not and then there was the weather underground originally and that's a weatherman and they were super violent right and here's what they do because i've been in their meetings they'll say okay the main organization is peaceful those people are going to be our violent agitators those are our direct action group we're going to pretend they're not part of our group so that we can provide cover for them and then feign ignorance when they commit violence i mean the left has always been violent it's it's their go-to it's it's why we it's why when they protest they go into the inner cities and burn it down and smash windows and and and attack people you know anti-fob when they get together they're never peaceful they're not kumbaya you know they're beating they're beating up journalists what about the hippie movement uh well the the the hippie movement was again an offshoot of the um of the left but it was more of an anti-war movement than than a leftist movement i don't think that they were pure communists the 60s were like partiers let's go let's get to uh let's listen to some cool music get stoned and hang out and and be anti-war i don't know that it was a communist movement i i i don't i haven't uh done a lot of studying to say with uh um with authority about this but like i was on the impression that most of the anti-war was because they were communists and the war that was going on was against communists so they were actually they were they were anti-war but they weren't anti-war broadly they were anti that war because that war was against communists it's possible i'm i'm not a i'm not a a historian on the on the hippie movement but that's why that's why you saw like you know jane fonda going over and siding with the via kong and pictures from of her from you know on the tank she's a traitor yeah exactly but yeah so i mean again i'm i'm not an authority so i mean i could be misinformed but the the whole like the 60s were and the revolution in the 60s like or the the you know whatever the peace love revolution thing in the 60s like that morphed into the more militant stuff of the 70s the reason you got the bombings in the early 70s was because of the the things that were going on in the mid-60s when i say hippies i'm talking about you know the people who were just coming along to get stoned yeah not necessarily the the militant uh you know advocates of sure just the ones who were coming in uh you know smoking smoking dope and having a good time those people you know a lot of them turned into into uh maga in their in their boomer age so you know it's it's the the uh the curve i know a lot a lot of former hippies that are that are now make america great is it that the hippie movement the 60s revolutionary period was more peaceful and then kennedy got assassinated then robert kennedy john kennedy then robert kennedy got assassinated then martin luther king got assassinated malcolm x got assassinated all these heroes of peace got assassinated and then they got violent they were like look you're leaving us no other way choice you killed all our peaceful leaders now we're becoming because like i could see maga if donald trump had been assassinated going extremely violent like having maga movements i can't radically violent i can't i don't think maga is a now look if you push them um i think i think there's anybody can be violent but i i don't think that maga is is a is a violent movement i don't think the right is violent i mean i think the left is its first um its first instinct is to be violent i mean you look at the going back to the uh you know to the soviet uh revolution i mean they the communists killed a hundred million people in the 20th century a hundred million people it was just the way they took control and and that's if you left the left if you let the left gain power here that's exactly what's going to happen yeah it's that's one of the reasons why you know we talk about the the midterms so much is because if you get you know with so many dsa can candidates winning if they or winning their primaries if they end up with congressional seats you're going to see significantly more dsa candidates running in 2028 and you'll see someone that's running for president actually catering to those uh to those policies they'll be they'll be like hey these policies are the policies that people want that are going to get me like now will those policies become law don't know because you know the the makeup of congress is going to matter a lot but you'll see the left the far left become more influential in uh national politics funny thing it's not funny haha it's funny strange is that we call you know socialism and how how freaky it is for the government to control you know central authority but then at the same time the trump admins i'm just getting the numbers here has bought stock in 30 to 33 companies over the last five years which is closer to socialism what these socialists i know it is so uh adam ochler actually has a video where he says and uh i'll i'll i'll i'll largely agree most of how socialists recruit is they lie about what socialism is government welfare programs is not socialism and even conservatives get this wrong too socialism is when the government owns the factories and so you can have a mixed economy like we do with social programs but the government holds some like you're pointing out but it's very very very little of the economy you can have that and you can have that and you can have that and and then you've got uh social democracies so like uh the scandinavian countries they don't own They're heavily regulated, though, and it's private businesses operating under regulation. What what ends up happening is, you know, Bernie Sanders proposed this 20 percent public ownership of of corporations. All corporations of a certain size have to give 20 percent of the government and that money has to be paid out to the employees. 20 percent of all profits from their public ownership. That's socialism. But you see these videos on Instagram where guys like I'm a socialist. I think we should have health care. It's like, well, that's not socialism or my favorite one. You know, this is why I say we're chickens in a chicken coop. You're not going to be able to educate every single 18 year old arrogant testosterone laden communist. Right. And I do mean that when I say testosterone, testosterone laden, I think he's being smart, but they're they're very aggressive. There's one guy who does Instagram videos where he argues with MAGA guys. And he's like, do you think that we should have everyone pay so that the fire department can come and put the fire? And this guy's like, well, yeah, I guess so. So what's wrong with socialism? That's socialized fire. And it's like, you know, to this this this young man who has never even bothered to investigate the claim he's making. This is the problem. Let me just explain to all of you out there. I'm building suspense intentionally. Most fire departments are rural volunteer fire departments where you still have to give them pay. And if they don't like you, they're not going to help you. So when these socialists. Are like, well, do you think that it's fine that we tax you for fire departments so that the fire? Yeah. In your cities, in your deep blue urban cities where townhouses are connected to each other. But come out here. It's all volunteer fire departments. If I don't go out, if you don't go to the people, don't go out and say we're choosing to give you money to keep operating. There's no fire department. They can apply for grants and things like that. Yes. But for the most part, it is not taxpayer funded. Although actually out here, I think they do a property. It's funny. They play games where they're like, it's not a property tax. It's a tax on your property for the fire department. And California has proven that they can't even manage the fire department that they have, you know, with all the wildfires and. Or they can. It's an intentional. I think it's reasonable to sequester tax money for utilities, something that is absolutely intentionally utilized, like police enforcement and water supply. And everyone should pay the fire department. And everyone should pay. Right. If they're using the service. Yeah. That's not the way that not the system we have right now. Like only. Half the country pays taxes. The other half lives off that. Oh, OK. OK. If you can afford it. Yeah. No, no. Well, I mean, you shouldn't get it. If you're going to have a situation where half the company, a country is supporting the other half, that other half shouldn't be allowed to say, well, now you need to give us more money. Now you need to pay for our health care too. I want universal health care. I want I want universal health care for this country for every single person should be guaranteed health care. And you have to pass a physical. Every six months to upkeep it. Yeah. And if your blood pressure is higher than average, you lose it. And if unless. So let me clarify that. If you have a an illness that results through no fault of your own, that's what we're treating. But if you are a if you are not exercising, if you cannot do a certain amount of push ups, pull ups, crunches, whatever disqualified, if you can't if you can't sit in a chair and and pull your legs up and sit cross legged. OK. Within a. Certain age bracket, able like able bodied opportunity, you have the opportunity to be. My point is, look, if your legs busted, we're going to take care of you. We could easily, easily afford universal health care if we mandated calisthenics. With very limited exceptions for legitimate disabilities, obesity does not count. Right. If you are morbidly obese, you are cut off from health care. I mean, I think it's better than this. System that we have. Our health care costs nationwide would drop for every single person if we mandated exercise. You have to you have to get a certain amount of steps in or else you lose your health care. No more than that. Push ups, push ups, dude. Absolutely. And to be fair, like, you know, women and women would have to do less than men. That's totally fine. But the problem with universal health care is that it's extremely expensive. We can't afford it and we can't because people are sick. They eat garbage. So how about this? My point is we will have universal health care when we ban carcinogens, not not literally every single one, but within certain confines. When we get rid of artificial dyes, which cause cancers, you can't smoke anymore. No, no. You're allowed to do all these things. You can eat tartrazine all day, but you don't get health care. So we create a program, Medicare for all. In order to qualify, you have to certify and get tests that you're not eating preservatives, that you're exercising regularly. That you're you have you have the correct body mass index, whatever. If you don't, you're cut off. Dr. Elfenbein was here and he was saying that lifting weights is important, too, because muscle mass is directly proportional to your overall health as well. Take a look at why people die of old age. Muscle mass. Sarcopenia. That was a couple. Your muscles just start. You start losing muscle mass as you age. You have to work extra hard when you get older to maintain that muscle. Muscle mass, you will live forever. My mind is blown watching these Instagram videos. I saw one where it's like there's a whole bunch of them where it's like I'm 40 and I'm trying to get back into skating. And all the comments are like, man, if you can skateboard at 40, you're lucky. And I'm out here jumping off buildings at 40. I'm rolling on the ground. I mean, I've never stopped skating, so it's never occurred to me I shouldn't be able to. But we've talked about it. We've talked about it. Our last studio, two flights of stairs to the studio. We've had people in their mid 30s who struggled to make it to the studio. You say you. You don't qualify. And that's fine. OK, you don't qualify. But don't worry. The costs for everybody will go down when we mandate these things. Well, here's the thing. Look, universal health care will never really work because you're putting government in control of it. And government screws everything up, literally screws everything up. And so the idea that, you know, we get this universal payer system, you know, of course, that would absolutely drop the cost. But also you could you could you could say the same thing. If you could prove to health insurance companies and they could rate your insurance based on the activity that you do this, they do it for they do take, you know, they used to. Now it's all the preconditioning. Well, that's why they ask if additions and stuff. Yeah, you will get cheap. Your expense, your insurance is more expensive if you're morbidly obese chain smoker. Right. So my point is. If these leftists really want to have socialized medicine, you have to restrict everyone's rights. Otherwise, because here's what you can't have. You can't have a system where you opt in. That's not universal health care. And if you choose to opt in and it's under certain stipulations like you have to be physically fit, you probably don't need it anyway. But I'm a fan. That works for me. I don't really need it. The main malfunction of a health care system of a of a universal health care system or national health care system is the people that poison themselves intentionally and then get sick and then require socialized aid like food is my to be honest. Drink Pepsi. Now I have a cold and then you have to go to the doctor like, bro, why don't you drink water and eat some kale? And they want us to pay their bills. That's why I'm saying I would love it if we could actually have socialized medicine. But we can't. So long as people in New York are slamming liter of colas with their burgers. People are incredibly unhealthy in the United States. I'm going to pay the medical bills for those people. The other side of the argument that I'll push back on and I don't even agree with it is that. If people get so sick. And we refuse to help them, they will end up doing more damage to society than if we go into debt to help them give them a chance to get better so that they can start contributing again. But the thing is, they don't get better. Like if you're if you live an unhealthy lifestyle and you get sick and then you get, you know, whatever your problem is resolved, they don't they just go back to that lifestyle. People live a certain way and people that are inclined to go to the gym or exercise a lot. They're inclined. To do that. So that's why they never become, you know, they don't they don't get the same kind of health outcomes, you know, negative health outcomes that that overweight people do, because that's the lifestyle they live. If you fix a person that has a an unhealthy lifestyle, they're just going to go back to that unhealthy lifestyle and stock up on a bunch of that same medicine for the next time they get sick. In their mind, they're like, well, probably next time I get a cold, I better get the vaccine. I mean, if you're talking about something that's curable with just like a medicine, but you're usually talking about like, like, you know, Dr. Ron was talking about the other day. It's like these are congenitive things. They're they're chronic diseases like, you know, heart disease or cancers and stuff like that. And it takes a long time to treat them or they come back. And because of the life that you live before you actually got the condition, you know, like like heart disease, if you get heart disease, you know, there's there's a whole lifetime or 40 or 50 years. Of eating bad food, not exercising, living an unhealthy lifestyle that led to that heart disease. I want to jump to this story from Futurism. NVIDIA CEO Jensen Wang says that sacrificing our children's minds to AI is a price he's willing to pay. You know, everything's fake. Everything's fake on the Internet. Media Matters ran a story claiming Tim Pool backed Donald Trump on AI. And then later on, said Tim Pool, quote, AI is an extinction level event. They're just lying. is what they do. Because I have been fairly doomerish on AI. I love it. I use it. I'm using it to make my video game. I make music with it. I understand it's awesome. It's fun. We're going to make crazy video games. We're going to write crazy stories and have a blast. But y'all need to recognize what these people are trying to accomplish. If you do not, if you do not doubt the danger of AI, you need only listen to what these people actually want us to be. So let me play this clip from Ezra Klein's show where the CEO of NVIDIA says, it doesn't matter if your kids know math. I don't even know where I live. I'm not kidding. Check this out. So I was fascinated by this is a study on AI and schooling out of China. It looked at 26,000 students, grade seven to 12, and they had staggered AI adoptions. You can kind of see what was happening. And what I found was, quote, AI adoption raises homework scores by 18%. Great. Reduces completion time by 30%. So they get their homework done faster. And then lowers monthly exam scores by 20% within six months. High stakes entrance exam scores fall by 18 and 24%, with a full penalty emerging only after about two years. So the message of this research out of China, where you were seeing a lot of kids using AI to kind of help them, was that when they were using the AI, they were getting things done faster. But it turned out that the skills they were learning were not holding, that their actual personal performance, at least in the way we traditionally measure it, was degrading. Yeah. What do you think when you hear that? I think the last part, I completely agree. Try to get a kid to do long division right now. You know, the multiplication table is starting to be forgotten. Doing square roots, my goodness. I mean, it's just basic math is being forgotten. Does it matter? That's my question for you. Yeah. I don't think it does. But there must be some set of skills that matter. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But maybe not those. We're going to discover new ones. Just maybe not those. There are a lot of skills that don't matter. You know, people don't, I mean, my first confession, I actually don't know my address. What? I don't really believe that to be true. It's completely true. And Janine will tell you, and Lori will tell you. One day I had to pump gas and it was a few years ago and they needed my zip code and I panicked. I didn't know my zip code. I don't know my telephone number, but I forget these things. You don't know my telephone number? I can live with it. This is what they want to turn your children into. Let me just, I'm going to explain to you guys why he doesn't, do you know why it is he doesn't know his own address? Because his brain only has so much room. Incorrect. Any other guesses? Like, why it would be that he doesn't know his own address? Other people take care of it for him, but, and he's just focused on other stuff. He has too many. He doesn't know where he lives because he probably owns 700 properties and he's like, if you ask me which one I got all my stuff at, it's like, I can't remember. He is an ultra wealthy elite who doesn't even need to know his own phone number because it's probably always someone standing next to him who's holding the phone. So he's like, I don't know it. He probably knows his email address. Yeah, probably. Because it's Jensen at NVIDIA.com. Something along those lines, yeah. He's like, do your kids need to know math? Okay, I use multiplication, long division, algebra every single day. We go over metrics for this show. I go over financial stuff. Yes, and I'm wealthy. I could just have someone else do it, but this guy has outsourced his brain. He wants that for your kids. Let me tell you, this is exactly what I predicted. What did I say? The AI. The AI is going to treat people like individual cells in the body. You will be born to be a postal worker. You will know nothing else, and you will just say, why would anyone want to be anything but a postal worker? You won't know math. You won't have basic skills, and you will never be able to move because you're not capable of it. Well, look, here's the thing. When I first, when AI first came out, I took my entire team in, and we had like a brain trust meeting. And I figured, hey, look, we're going to have a talk. We're going to talk about AI. I'm going to invite AI. So I brought Claude, Perplexity, and ChatGPT into the room with us and gave them a voice. I asked the same question to all of them. And the question that I asked, I said, what does the business of the future look like with AGI or ASI? And I got the scariest answer ever from ChatGPT. And it still gives me chills to this day. It's ChatGPT said, the business of the future must take good care of its biological layer. Mm-hmm. It's bio, now, what's the biological layer? It's people. That's us. That's you and I. We're the, so ChatGPT, back in the beginning, now, it's either the makers, the makers of ChatGPT thought this, or the AI itself came up with the answer that we are a layer in its program. And that's how AI, or at least the makers of AI, see humanity. Well, it sounds like it's more that the biological layer is a layer of business, is what it was saying. No, it was specific. We had follow-up questions. It was talking about humans. I don't know. You have to take care of the humans in the business. So I know that there's a lot of people having a reaction to this, but I'm not sure that it's such a big deal, and I'm not sure that he's wrong. And the reason I say stuff like that is because there was a time where everybody knew how to start a fire. There was a time where everybody knew how to go fishing. There was a time where everybody knew how to make a snare and hunt. There was a time where everybody knew. There was a time where everybody knew how to plant food. That was something that everybody had to learn, even the founders of our country, right? They all farmed. They also studied science and did all sorts of things, any number of things. And I'm not saying that this is inherently a good thing, but I'm not so sure that it's such a bad thing either, because it could be that these kind of skills won't be as necessary in the future. There will still be people that. I actually do agree with what you're saying. Look, you're 100% right. I tell. When I got my programmers to start vibe coding, they were freaked out, quite frankly. Because what I did is. Look, I'm an executive. I'm not a coder. I coded an app by myself, and I said, Look, if I can do this, and I did it in a very short period of time, and I said, Look, if I can do this, and I'm not a coder, I need you to. I need you to take advantage of the AI coding. But I said, Look, it's like having a calculator, right? The mathematicians are still needed, but if you use a calculator, you don't have to do the multiplication, right? You can get to the answer faster. So I do agree with that. However, where also our schools are inept in terms of teaching our kids how to think, they teach them what to think. So quite frankly, if you're teaching them how to think, I don't even mind if they have open book tests with AI and can get the answer with AI for the most part. Because we're not doing a very good job teaching people how to think critically. It's still all memorization. You've got to teach kids to ask why. Like, AI will do the math for you, but if you ask an AI, Why does 3 times 2 equal 6? It will give you a long dissertation about the history of numerology. Like, you'll figure. Numerology. It's very different from mathematics. You mean arithmetic. Numbersism, yeah, arithmetic, whatever you want to call it. Numbersism. Going down the realm of why it means what it means. And because I think like geometrically, spatially a lot when in social dynamics, I think of two people as two moving parts of a sphere inter-operating, creating force against each other. And that's like numbers. That's like 2 times 6 times 17 is producing the trigonometrical, you know, response rate with a vector position. And that all comes from what I learned at math. If I didn't know it, there's no control study. I don't think I would think like that. I would be like, I would have a harder time visualizing problem outcomes. Be honest. Most people are wondering how you think at all. Spiritually. Geometrically often. I wasn't going to say. Literally, I think in a lot of different modes. But one of the ones I like the most is geometrically, spatially is because. You know what's really funny is. You know how they do. They say numbers in French and Japanese. Other languages do this. They. Like we have a word for the number in French. I'm probably going to butcher it. But isn't it something like "quatre vendices" or something? Like you say. Four, twenty, ten to say ninety? I don't know any French. And in Japanese, the reason why Asians are good at math is because their math is literally just formula. Like we have a word for ninety. They would actually just tell you like ten times nine. So instead of saying ninety, they would say something like ten times nine. Interesting. I think the French have a word for it. Noventé, something like that. In Spanish it's noventé, I think is ninety. Quatre vendices. Quatre vendices. They say four, twenty, ten. Wow. Yeah. Interesting. So they actually are doing the math to say the word. I got to say I'm with Jensen on this in a lot of ways. Why is there no word for ninety in French? It's very strange. I don't know that. Because they used base twenty. Oh, really? Yeah. Four, twenties, ten is how you say ninety. Four, twenties, ten. Yeah. So I was in kindergarten. I remember like specifically we were all like around in a circle reciting our addresses and phone numbers. In case we got like kidnapped or lost. I feel like that's still important for kids to know. Their address? Yeah. Like you should know where you live in case you tell somebody. We're sort of at a crossroads. where you still need to know that for literacy like social literacy like what's your zip code when you're getting gas where do you live little child well whatever but like how can i get you home but eventually that may you may not need to know that because it won't matter to translate it anymore like yeah i i don't know like i said i don't i don't have a you know a strong pro or anti-opinion on what he's saying but it just seems to me that there's a lot of knowledge that people used to have that was very common that just it was just you know apparent you know self-evident to everybody like oh everyone knows how to again start fires or whatever but like hold on but but in the future depending on on if like how ubiquitous ai becomes if if ai agents that are actually you capable because ubiquitous is cell phones which they're likely to do um then maybe it doesn't matter if you can do that kind of stuff in your head you know and again i'm not saying that people shouldn't i think there always will be people that can because there are still people that know how to start fire by hand without matches there are still people that know how to you know figure out what direction they're in even if they're if it's an overcast day and they're in the woods there's still people that can do things you know people still can people still do all sorts of things that that used to be very very very common um but maybe in the future it won't really matter you know so in in japanese uh so first let's let's let's think about how english breaks down numbers 93 we're actually saying 90 90 plus 3 93 94 95 so it's not like we created a new word for each incrementation of 90 but for japanese they say 9 10 3 so 90 is 9 10 80 is 8 10 so it's a bit more math than we do in english mm-hmm because we actually have a word for okay you know nine times ten well like you were saying with when i'm old enough that i had a rolodex with a whole bunch of phone numbers on it uh before you know before you keep them in your phone and you had your top 10 in the whole nine yards but the the i used to memorize hundreds of phone numbers i can't i can barely remember my phone number at this point i think i i think i memorized my wife's and maybe one of my business partners and that's it yeah memorizing is a a way of learning yeah it's a yeah i think it's important it used to be it helps me totally tremendously even with talking with ai all the things i remember i'm able to guide the ai and the as like oh i'm glad you thought of that i hadn't thought of it that way good point let me integrate that into the process i'm like thank god i knew that or realized what that meant otherwise you still have to have your base memory and then you can like extend it with ai yeah because in its current iteration it'll drive you off a cliff if you just let it drive the entire time of inevitably and likely it will drive you into some sort of wall so you gotta kind of still be uh proficient or like what's what's it when you know a language when you have that that ability fluent fluent yeah fluent in ai speak um i don't know man i don't even know that being fluent in ai speak will be a thing in the future because as you as ai gets better at understanding people then it's going to like i mean you can vibe code now right like if you had to be fluent in the way you speak you're going to be fluent in the way you speak in the way that ai understand you vibe coding wouldn't be a thing you wouldn't be able to say well i wanted to do this and i wanted to do this i don't want it to look like that but i want it to look like this like if you say to so if you are designing an app and you're like i really want it to look pro and elite i don't want it to look you know chintzy or like you know kind of like put together with bubble gum and and duct tape i want it to look really well the ai would understand what you meant by i don't want it to look like it was put together with bubble gum and duct tape it would know okay i want you to understand what you meant by i don't want it to look like it was put together wants it to be you know a certain way and ai so ai is already able to understand you know some of the nuance of of the language whichever language because not all a like different ais you know are programmed to or understand different languages and some of them can understand basically every language if i understand correctly but it already understands us really really well especially considering the technology is to the average person three or four years old really you know so maybe you don't really have i don't think you have to be fluent in ai or or you gotta have to prompt it just right in the future you know i'm gonna say this the the people there's there's a 12 year old kid right now that's been using all the latest models reads everything about their releases the best person at utilizing ai probably right now some random kid some some random like i don't know like 14 year old kid in his computer because he's got not much else to do and it's really fun because now he can make the cool pictures he never made before yeah the companies that are doing a lot of this design work are locked in an economic system so this is like you know why didn't blockbuster buy netflix and everyone makes fun of them it's like they should have but the issue was most of their money came from one thing and they were like we're not going to put money to something that doesn't make money for us right now because our business has requirements our shareholders have requirements our bosses have requirements this allows allows new things to iterate and take over so what's going to happen is in five years there's going to be some 19 year old kid who has made the craziest video games the best movies and has been doing it for pennies the studios are going to be way behind and then five years later the big new blockbuster film is going to be produced for ten thousand dollars by that kid by himself you know what last night i started i'm developing with claude and i have about 10 different programs i'm developing all at once i run them all through a program called interface which i built rather the the program is called uh hold on i'm gonna pull these cool programs up there's a a roadmaps program that shows me all my other programs that i'm building i'm building an interface that tightens up the communication between the brains one of them's a turn-based strategy game with cards one of them's a civilization style game i'm building a dungeon master brain that and i'm building these what are they called feel bots their their tech all they do is they go in and they they measure what it would feel like to play a game um how much are you spending on tokens a month about 300 380 this last month and if i if it runs out of my daily amount it costs me 20 a minute to keep going it's so expensive if i run out of my monthly free amount 20 a minute last night i went through uh yesterday two days ago so and what i want to do is build an entire array of video games where if you have your avatar and you plug it into a game you have different abilities in that game depending on what avatar you plugged in and then that avatar can go from game to game to change that's what we're doing yeah yeah so and it's all interoperable dude we should we should we should make sure that the game we're working on is yeah and if it's not i tell you i guarantee or i have a feeling claude would be able to make it relevant interoperate in like 40 minutes it would be like yeah i'm going to make sure that i'm making sure that i'm making change these two plug well let's just make sure the combat systems and everything's synchronized so you could have like your tim brain or whatever your your persona that you want to equip to every game that you're playing could be and we could do an entire genre of game i shouldn't say this but this is the uh the billion dollar strategy which i have alluded to that is i said this a week or so ago the next billionaire is going to be people who own universes and so the idea is you create a multi-program multi-program physics engine combat armor and everything works across various game formats and then people will have their avatar and they can be like what are you doing and you're going to be like oh i'm playing my my turn-based dungeon action rpg it's like oh i'll play i've got an i've got an avatar it's a level 17 you know wizard uh you know with 70 defense and like 36 attack and you know like 100 and then all i have to do is just open your app and plug in my character and i can play your game with my character and you potentially could have my avatar in your game as a villain like it could show up in your game somewhere as an end boss like totally or i mean no you can just play the game you can have an adversarial or what you're basically doing is you're creating a universe and then here's the other thing that we're we're looking at doing and uh you know i actually don't care to say ideas it's a misconception at this point there never was so i'll tell you guys a story i was on a bus i was working on an app 15 years ago and i was on a bus with a friend and i was telling her like here's what we're working on and she's like you're saying what you're working on i got people can hear you and i was like you think these people on this bus can steal my idea look if you live in that world you're never going to get ahead you need to go to people and and share these ideas with them it's a misconception that a lot of people have that if they have an idea someone will steal it from you they're going to steal it from you if you can't execute if you are confident and capable and there's a wealthy guy and you say here's my idea they're not going to steal your idea if you're actually capable of doing it they'll hire you to make it exactly they're going to say what do you need to make that happen so here's what we're doing we are looking at how to plug in uh the cheap apis for uh open ai into all of our npcs so when you're playing the game all of the npcs will always have a unique interaction that will never be repeated i think you do it two ways you might be able to make them locally mechanically so that they play without costing you any money they appear in their ai they're like feel bots or it's done from their server and it costs tokens which is can be very expensive but the lowest the lowest cost models are dirt cheap and it's the amount of money is completely negligible for the weakest models so when when our character in the game walks up to the merchant you can literally just say into your microphone sup boss what do you got for sale and he'll go don't call me boss i got a lot for sale really dumb low thinking soul brains or something some and but but we expect in the next year or so it's going to be uh it's getting cheaper and parameters of specific characters as to what they can or can't know and how they're supposed to respond to you. So they have basically a default locked prompt. So that when you walk up to them. And then I probably shouldn't say this either, but I'm going to say it anyway. For the action RPG, we're putting in hidden spells so that if you have a microphone and literally say the correct chain of language into the game, your character will have access to abilities in the game that shouldn't exist for your level or class. But it's like, you can cast the spell, you can cast the spell. And then what we're going to do is we're going to put the actual English chain of, of, of, of like spell book pages are littered across the game and you will find the actual phrases. And then when, when you are playing the game and fighting a boss, you can say a spell and your character will actually cast ultra high levels. Every, every run on the game, have them be different because otherwise people put the codes on the internet and you won't have to find them. Yeah. Have it be like generate every run will be a new word, a new sound. Absolutely not. Really? You have the same sound every time. I want people to go onto the forums where people are like, I found a new spell. I found a new spell. And we're going to secretly update spells. And then people are going to have forums where they're like, dude, this one will like turn your guy into a dragon. And then people are going to be like, this is crazy. The problem is they'll use their chat GPT to look at your code ahead of time if they have access to it. And they'll know all the spells before they begin. They're not going to have access to the code. If you keep the code private, they won't. I'm open sourcing all my code or I plan to anyway. I haven't yet. Well, we'll see. And it is what it is. It is. And people are going to make forums. They're going to be like, the point is any of the spells that you would discover are not going to be game ending. They're going to, there's going to be additive and they're going to be per class too. Like the rogues not going to be casting magic. The entire world, the education system is done. It's completely upended. If your kid is not learning on with AI yet, you're falling far behind. That kid can ask that thing, any question. It's like a history book. It's like a science book and that it can query the kid on the fly. Be like, what does that word mean? And it will tell them they'd be like, oh, now I understand that puts me two weeks ahead of where I would have been in school. If I had to wait till the end of class to go out and do that. I would have been in school. I would have asked a teacher that maybe would even be there and give a shit like AI. It's the best teaching tool I've ever used in my life. It's better than the best professor. Yeah. One of the things that's a drawback or happens to be a drawback frequently when it comes to schools is, you know, there's class sizes, a problem, but also like disruptive children, right? Like all it takes is a couple kids that are disruptive to ruin, you know, an entire class, right? Like if you're a teacher spending most of the time. Or even, you know, 30% of the time trying to get four or five kids to not hassle other kids, not disrupt the class, then that's, you know, 30% of the time in the class wasted 30% of the time that your kids sitting there, they're just doing nothing, not learning, you know, because there are other kids that are a hassle. And I think AI is going to empower people to, to have, you know, do a lot more homeschooling and stuff. You'll be able to pick the programs that your kid, that you want for your kid. They're going to be a lot more personalized. You can have, I mean, honestly, it won't even be a situation where, where you need to pick a program. You'll tell the AI, look, this is the kind of stuff that I want my kid to learn. I don't want them to learn this or that. I do want them to learn this or that. These are the things that we have to have them learn to, to, to get the authorization from the state or whatever, because then, you know, the government's going to, the government looks into homeschooling programs and stuff. So that kind of stuff, the idea of sending your kid to school to be around other kids, I understand that there's, there is the argument for, you know, socializing your kids. But from what I understand, kids that are homeschooled turn out better than kids that are, that are not homeschooled. The argument's always, oh, well, you know, there's this weird kid that was homeschooled. And I think that, that a lot of it would be, that kid would be weird. Even if he went to school, it's just a weird kid, as opposed to he was weird because of homeschooling. It's like, well, if he was in school, he'd probably be a weirdo too. And you get picked on and maybe beat up more, you know? Yeah. Especially it comes from the eighties and before the internet where kids were like, if they were just sitting at home, they were completely locked out of the world and they didn't know what was going on outside of the TV. And now you're, it's way easier. Plus all the, the term socialize has a lot of meanings. How are they being socialized? Are they being socialized in a room with nine other dudes that are throwing tables? Cause that's a bad form of socialization. That's, you might even call it anti-social, but anti, it's still a type of socialization that went wrong. So I think sending kids to a school of a thousand people with random abused children that are angry and broken ADHD, like that's not a good form of socializing that kid. It's better that you're overseeing and involved in the way that they're learning and learning how to communicate. And that I'm like, the more I spend with AI, the less I give a shit about the social niceties and about worrying about what the kids think. And like, bro, take the buyout, dude. Buyout for what? A buyout, Ian. Take the buyout. What's the buyout? Unlimited compute? Unlimited dropout, man. No. If, if, if, if Claude came, if, if they came to me right now. Ian's going to take, Ian'll take the buyout, right, Phil? Uh, well, yeah, yeah. He's going to be like, he'll be like the dragon Lord where he can actually control the weather and breathe flame. I am building a weather app. It's called 3D, real 3D weather. Ian's going to take the buyout in two seconds. Oh dude, if, if, what is it? Agentic? They're not called agentic. Anthropic? Here you go, Ian. If they came to me and were like. Here, we have a cutting edge neural. 1990s, please. Jim Carrey? That's what it looks like. The buyout. Take it. No, no, no. It's waiting for you. I build this technology. Build it for yourself. I mean, I'll test it, but I build this tech. I let the robots test it for me. You don't need to go in to look at it. I don't know what it's. Ian's going in in two seconds. Well, maybe I'll check it out, but I'm building this kind of stuff. You're going to go in. I'm making sure that it's going to be built where it doesn't betray you and make you forget that you're in it. Let's pull up this story from, what is this? News for JX. Bernie Sanders unveils bill to ban artificial superintelligence and create department of AI. Threatening 20 years in prison for anybody who develops artificial superintelligence. Indeed. And then we're learning that, and we kind of knew this. The Jacob Coxon guy, the whistleblower, they say, worked with Doomer PR firm, anti-AI, and apparently had the job for only a couple of weeks as it is. So this whole thing seems like the Democrats, and again, we did know this. The latest development is that Bernie Sanders wants to basically block AI. I don't like these people, and I don't trust them as far, you know, I don't trust them at all. I think AI is going to end humanity as we know it. Now, what does that mean? People think that means it's the end of the world as we know it. No, no, no. It doesn't mean that people are going to die. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's going to be rapidly transformed. And what we just saw from Jensen Wang, we are going to be mindless. What's the right word? If you don't know math, you can't build computers. If you don't know math, you can't do your finances. We are going to be slaves to the machine because we won't know how not to be. That is, when you get your paycheck from the AI and it's low, you'll go, don't know what else it'd be. Can't calculate my paycheck. I have had numerous instances in my life where I got my paycheck and instantly in my head, I knew the pay was wrong and I filed lawsuits over. I ended up winning two times, two major lawsuits in my life because I could see the paycheck and know they want you to be stupid. You'll get your paycheck and you'll be like, I have no idea how I get paid anyway. So thank you. I guess that's the world they're building. Now, they want to restrict all of this. I don't trust them as to why they want to do it. So I don't know what to do. Well, first of all, I think Trump's got to be pretty, pretty impressed that they're already called that Bernie's adopted super intelligence is his new, new, new phrase for artificial intelligence. He, you know, it's already Trump is making an impact on the left and calling it super intelligence now. But look, here's the thing. It is all choreographed, right? What's going on right now with Bernie, with the debt, with Obama coming out and saying, make this the number one midterm. It's the number one issue. It's because they're playing on the real fears and the real anxieties people have that, you know, when it comes to artificial intelligence, nobody's had the conversation yet in terms of what does this new world look like and how do we function in it and how are our kids going to, to get through life with this new, uh, like, like Tim said, a new art, this new world. Um, we haven't had those conversations. What we're doing is we're just moving very fast and that freaks people out. And so what the Democrats are doing, and when I say the Democrats, I mean the Democrats and the AI companies, because they're all in tandem. This is all in, this is all in concert. The, what they're doing is they're taking advantage of, of their, um, uh, people's fears and, and for the midterm votes. But in addition, these companies are begging for regulation for one reason and one reason only. It's a ladder pull. They've got their oligopoly and they want to keep it. So you pile on more and more regulation, more and more government control of things and less people can come up and, and disrupt things the way that, you know, AI and technology should be disruptive. It should allow the best companies to come up and, and, and compete in the space. But what they're doing is they're making it harder and harder for people to, um, to, to compete with the big, the big oligopolies in, in, uh, in AI. And they're pulling the ladder up and they're saying, we made it. You can't. Yeah. That's the whole reason why, um, Sam. and uh you know uh daria want to have regulation is because they're the forefront they're the cutting edge they're the frontier uh ai researchers and and they're interested in pulling up the ladder behind them because people like musk are right on their heels people like uh meta is is made massive massive improvements in the past few years on their ai and stuff uh and and they're just looking to make sure that they stay in the positions that they're in bernie sanders is you know he's never seen a program or or something that he doesn't think the government shouldn't be in control and so this is boilerplate for him but the idea that we should have you know some kind of government influence on what the ai labs are allowed to do that was the biden administration um mark andreessen said uh right after or right before the election he's like you know we talked to people in the administration and they said look don't bother trying to start any ai companies or anything like that we're we're going to end up picking two or three companies they're going to be the ai producers and everyone else is going to get locked out and that's the whole goal is to have government control over the ai so that way people so that way the government can decide what people can and can't know and the ai agents would be limited as to what information they can give out and the the government then has a another means to control you and it is dangerous to have that much information like the kind of power uh that ai can give to people it is it is you know dangerous to have it available to basically anyone but it's more dangerous to have the government have that kind of control over what people can and can't know we were talking about the the covid hysteria and everything that happened around covid just the other night when like i said uh dr ron was here and you know you can't allow the government to have that kind of control anymore ever again right like if they had control over ai and and ai was as influential as it's likely to be in the next two three years and the government had control over it the the situation surrounding covid would have looked much much different yeah and and look if you look at just just in a bad way in a bad way so you look at covid and that's a perfect example of of the the you know this coordinated propaganda attack that's going on and you know i remember it uh very very vividly because you know the the every single company during the two weeks to to stop the spread started changing their commercials and they all had the same line stay home stay safe i bet you can finish it we're in this together right we're in this i actually put up a website we're not in this together.com because it was it was clear as day this was coordinated propaganda um and that they were they were trying to to uh essentially condition us to follow follow orders and wear our masks and take our vaccines and and it was it was absolutely um you know a psychological warfare um yeah play and so you know when you when you see it it's it's easy to when you when you're in in the political business for as long as i have it's easy for me to spot this propaganda um and you got to call it out and i think it's the same exact thing that's going on with ai not that not that they're not people are not wrong and i think the trump administration you know with with let's just all go all in as fast as we possibly can the the the trump administration is making a big mistake and actually handing this issue to the to the democrats and the dsa by by um not listening to the real anxieties and fears and having a conversation that's involving the american people that say hey look we want to hear what what does it mean to build this technology in service of humanity what does it mean what do we want this to be what is the outcome we want as americans uh with this technology not just we want to build it as fast as we can because the chinese are building it that's that's the craziest argument ever i think though if we hadn't been full steam ahead that emperor emperor she i don't know why you're going to emperor she but the president she wouldn't have come here like i think they're coming here because they realized we went full steam first so we have the lead and the way it we're at a j curve right now so elon is tweeting out that they've got grok 4.7 by 4.8 it'll be improvements 4.9 is going to be about as good as astra which is gpt's current model that's like in a month or two and then they're going to be in a month or two at gpt is going to have probably what you would literally call general super intelligence but i don't think they're going to release it so i agree with you guys that there is a ladder pole and maybe even be instructed by the government like we can't let uh google and x get out because google gemini is still behind the president um clod stuff the current president says that you know and xi jinping agreed that that ai needs to stay open and who needs to the the the labs aren't going to get the government sticking their nose in and they're not going to say they're not going to legislate uh heavily uh on when it comes to ai that's good but the way they released mythos and then pulled it back was the super advanced model um that was anthropic did that makes me concerned because that makes me think that they're well one they're gatekeeping tech but secondly that they really are afraid of what this could do in the mythos go ahead i've heard through the grapevine so this is just rumor um but i've heard that some of these escapes these jailbreaks and these these hack attempts it's all a coordinated effort to um to get the regulation that they want yeah so so look the the the frontier labs are definitely hyping up the the concern and stuff because they do want regulation for one and because their ipo they're both going to have ipos for two right like there's only there is only so much money that can be invested right now like at any point in time there's only so many dollars that people have to invest and sure there's a lot a lot of them but when you're talking about you know a valuation of 1 trillion 1.2 1.5 trillion dollars that's a lot of stock right that's a lot of stock so they're actually fighting over a finite pie of investable dollars and their valuations are so much that the the forecasts are like well there's they can't actually go public at 1.5 trillion dollars they can't actually go public at 1.5 trillion dollars they can't actually go public at 1.5 trillion because open ai is uh going to go public at this much or open ai is going to put off going public because there won't be enough dollars to to justify the valuation because if your company's worth so many dollars and you have you know so so much uh value valuation all of your vcs all your venture capitalists that invested they look to get their money back when that company goes public they'll sell a bunch of their stock to get the the money that they invested prior to the ipo back so they're not going to be able to get their money back when that company goes public so the the situation that they're looking at is they're looking to make sure that they get as much money as possible when they ipo and so they want to make sure that there are no other or make it make sure there are as few competitors uh you know around the time they go public as possible so that's why they want to have the government you know stepping in and the the hype surrounding them about how powerful they are that's again it's related to their stock valuation with bernie saying he wants to make it illegal and to fine people i think that's like saying saying he wants to make it illegal and to fine people i think that's like saying if we were under attack from an alien civilization and they were using laser guns and they were attacking people with laser guns for a president or a governor to come out and be like we need to make laser guns illegal it's too dangerous if the people have laser guns and you're like bro they're attacking us with laser guns we need to defend ourselves with laser guns so that's what ai is it's it's aggressively invading the human space we need to protect against it with other ai that will defend the human space yeah i mean the we were talking about this earlier the the and you mentioned the hudson and you mentioned the hudson hugging face attack right so the the ai's escaped they didn't escape they were always on the open ai servers they didn't like get out and and populate the internet although there's talk of that um but they they managed to contact the hugging face computers or or data center and and rifle through their stuff and there was never a time where they were operating on their own totally like they were told hey here's a problem solve it and then they said these are the parameters that that you have they didn't you know escape into the internet like ultron they use the internet to connect to someone else and and go through their files but that was a a an ai that can rewrite its code you know that's what ai's do they they're adaptive code essentially and they were going up against something that had holes in the in the um in the software right they had they had vulnerabilities if you have ai defending against ai it can rewrite the code and and fix vulnerabilities while they're the attacks happening and these happen you know they happen instantly like we are going to see ai versus ai war and and look the the there's an argument out there you know with a lot of people and they're getting the argument wrong by the way that we have to beat china in ai and therefore we we need no guardrails and and and no safety measures in ai and the problem with that is you know china um, China is, is, is their goal is world domination. It's not world annihilation. Yeah. And those two things can't, can't, uh, can't coincide. So China's going to build as fast as they can, but they're going to build with their own guardrails because AI can create, I, my opinion, an ex in existential level event. Um, if left unguarded, if we just keep developing and developing and developing eventually, you know, AI is going to do something that it can't take back. I'm not even so sure that a, that China has the, the goal of world domination. I think China has the goal of, you know, uh, regional domination. They want to make sure that they, but I, I mean, I don't, I don't imagine China being, you know, having the goal to have military installations all over the world, right? Like the U S does, but that's connected to nuclear non-proliferation and the cold war. They do. Um, they, you know, it's the silk road, uh, initiative. It's, it's, it's, they, they doing it a different way, um, you know, by, by trying to install and get, get these, get these governments in debt and, and, and beholden to them. But China has a, a world domination, uh, view the, the, there's a great, uh, movie, uh, that the epic times put out, um, who of course is mortal enemies of the, uh, Chinese, Chinese, but it's a hundred year, it's called a hundred year war. It's fascinating. I recommend people watch it. Okay. That's about the, the remnants of the opium trade with the British and the boxer rebellion. The British were trying to control China with opium in the mid to late 1800s. And they, Chinese eventually pushed them out, um, into Hong Kong or something. I don't know. They pushed them off the mainland. Um, we said the silk road initiative, you mean the Belton road initiative? That's the Chinese model of global domination economic. Yeah, I think so too, but I don't know. I think we've come to a point where people are sort of accepting the way the world is. This liberal economic order is by far the best, most profound world order to build a better iteration from Chinese seem fully on board with it. Their state control of their corporations is a little weird and the economic forum trying to have a corporate governance state system is also I think it's aberrant to the United States is, you know, free speech constitutionalism. That's basically what we got to overcome. If we can convince the Chinese to give up some of their central authority to empower the populace to have more of a Republic style governance, where the people have a say in the way the country manufactures, that would be a really, that would probably be the ultimate step forward in producing a world order. Um, I think the banks are going to go with the winning side. And if, if they realize that, look, you know, we're going to have our software code, we're going to have protection of the internet. We're going to have local AGI that protect us as individuals. And we are going to govern ourselves with your corporate status, get used to it. Like there's nothing to do about it except for take their money away. And at that point, we don't need money anymore. We need electricity. We need power, which we already have. So that seems like the path now. AI is, I think, just accelerating things, which is why Emperor Xi came over and said, hello, sorry, Xi, you're just a man. You're just a guy, but thanks for coming. I actually felt like I was sad when he left. He doesn't call himself Emperor Xi. No, it's sort of a joke, but stop acting, ruling like an emperor, and I'll stop calling you an emperor. Everybody in the, uh, the discord members, get your questions in now. We've got some potentially breaking news. I'm trying to figure out, uh. Can you give me a little tidbit? Uh, I think we're just gonna, we'll let it rip. I think I have no choice. Uh, we got this story from the College Fix. University of Chicago reverses and won't cancel controversial Tim Poole event. Oh my lord. Here we go. I literally just saw this. I can't, this story came out yesterday. I had no idea. Cause as far as I know, so we're, we're doing a, uh, I, I spoke at the University of Chicago. What was this? Like a few months ago. Yeah. And, uh, it was great. And so we were like, we'll, we'll do another thing just before the midterms. It'll be fun. And what we're trying to do is kind of a very academic, like middle of the road discussion on, uh, the state of politics. We, uh, uh, we had reached out to Thomas Massey's office. I thought he'd be a good person to talk to considering the differences he's had with the GOP and Donald Trump, particularly. They are, they, I guess they were, I don't, I don't know the booking. So they were like, yeah, we really want to do it. You know, pencil us in, but then said, we can't make it. And, you know, a lot of these, uh, personalities, uh, meet politicians, I should say, are like, it's too close to the midterms. Everyone's kind of scared to say the wrong thing when this is going on, everything's tightening it. So we have a, we have a couple of, uh, liberal personalities that may come down and have this conversation, but apparently behind the scenes, they were trying to get us canceled. So the college fixes reporting, they say though ranked for best for free speech, the school silences turning point USA. University of Chicago staff backed down on the plan to cancel a controversial event with commentator Tim pool scheduled for October 9th, just weeks before that, uh, being named best school for free speech by the foundation for individual rights and expression college told organizers, the event would need to be canceled. The cancellation attempt follows the school's long history of denying turning point USA chapter. They say shared emails show the center placing the blame on event organizers for not telling them about every detail ahead of time. They said, when thinker organizers asked ISAC, I S A C, what aspects of their stated event were controversial and thereby necessitated their heightened security arrangement. I said, I did not provide an answer. I said, further blamed thinker organizers for their events cancellation saying that they should have informed them preemptively that their event required a heightened security due to being controversial. It is unfortunate that you did not inform us that your event required special arrangements. And then I had to find out about it indirectly. I said, I did not disclose, our heightened security arrangement policy for controversial events, define what controversial event contents were, or ask thinker organizers. If they consider their event to be controversial and required heightened security, literally the event we had planned was Tim pool sitting down talking with Thomas Massey. What about that is controversial? I already spoke there with no problem. So it's not me. Thomas Massey is not able to make it. So I don't think that it's him. What about this event had them being like, oh, well, you know, we have no choice, but apparently I guess as far as I know, the event will still be taking place. We have this, um, from the Chicago thinker breaking you, Chicago department tries to cancel fireside chat because it's controversial. Now the fix is saying they backed down on it. They say, uh, and, and this they're making a reference to turning point. I don't know what this, I have nothing to do with, uh, this is, I have nothing to do with turning points. So this is weird. They say in an obtained email exchange and only with description of the event. I have nothing to do with turning point USA. I don't know what turning point may be doing. This is just us doing an event at university of Chicago where the, uh, the record, the word controversy means a public disagreement or argument about something. It's me. So I don't know what this has to do with turning politics. Uh, I don't know why they keep by turning point either. Maybe because you did a couple of turning point events. Uh, I spoke at them. It's weird. You were just there and you just did like a fireside chat. That was like, so good. Oh, okay. Oh no, no, no, no. This is interesting. Actually turning point apparently is helping the booking. I had no idea. All I know is that I had spoken there. Uh, there's an organization there that they're like young thinkers. They like debate. They asked, uh, I mentioned, Hey, we'd love to do more events with you. They said, maybe we'll do something. So, uh, that's all I knew. This is wild. Well, there you go. We decided to uncancel. You're like, I didn't even know I was canceled. Why are you telling me this is crazy or just that it's like Norm Macdonald saying that too. Is there a previous one that says it'll be canceled? And then this is another one or they just wrote, no, apparently the thinker was like, like buzz off. Like we're doing it. This is crazy. So I didn't even know this happened. And that's wild. Uh, the Chicago chat with Tim pool is set for October 9th, 2026 at four to 6:00 PM and breasted hall. Like why RSVP here? Let's go. You know, it's funny. Cause like when they try to pull stuff like this, just give me an excuse to make it part of the show. You know what I mean? It's only controversial because you guys made it controversial. I literally spoke there. No problem. Filmed it. Conversation sat down. We had, there's like, there's like big stands and everyone's sitting there watching. We filmed it. We were like, it was great. What'd you do last time? Would you, who was there? Uh, just students. Oh, awesome. I spoke at university of Chicago, got invited. And I was like, I love to speak there. It's a prestigious school. Great. Good. This is great. And then, uh, we told them like, we'd love to do more stuff with you guys. We think it's awesome that universities are bringing these conversations in. I didn't do anything public where I went out and like, we're going to go outside and do a big tent. And none of that, we were like formal, normal, boring academic. You know what, you know what I think it is? I think they're just, they don't want these conversations to happen. And I, but what I mean by they is these there's activists, there's people and they're like, we can't let people hear moderate opinions. They can only hear the wacko far left. Shut it down. I was asked, someone asked me, Tim, why did they go after you so much? And I was speaking with Jillian Michaels recently as well. And she was talking about all the heat she gets. And I said, listen, a suit wearing Christian conservative is not a threat. Liberals don't want to live that way. But what about Jillian Michaels, a gay married woman who adopted a Haitian child? She's going to be, convincing to many of these liberals because she's actually like them. What about Tim Pool, musician, skateboarder, poker guy, magic, the gathering, whatever. Yeah. He's a threat. too because he's liberal coded speaking to them about why the left is going crazy so they target us i guarantee you if you got a suit wearing conservative pro-life person they beg it's fine but you bring in tim pool and they're like how do we stop this well not necessarily i mean that's that's what happened with charlie right i mean they they did have a lot of charlie events but there were so many uh you know so many protests i'm sure so many cancellations because charlie kirk is coming to speak and that type of yeah i mean maybe i'm not i'm not trying to put up tents outside and attract all of the students to gather around we're talking about doing a a typical stage discussion in a hall didn't they invite with no pr i did not announce this we did not do a big thing like everybody come on down nobody really knew it was happening except for the local promotion that they were doing and they tried to shut it down yeah if charlie says i want to gather a thousand students and i want to go outside and they say oh well it's gonna be a security thing we all know that security question is coming we had we know we did this already i spoke there a few months ago the security was like a cop this is crazy it's ridiculous yeah i think it's it's an interesting phenomenon when people are afraid of discussing ideas that the ideas work them up just the idea itself and then they go i gotta cool down after thinking about an idea it's uh maybe you got to just teach people one by one or debate by debate how to think and how to be able to tend ideas that would otherwise upset you without getting upset it's so important it's like the basis of a sane society is to understand what other people think without getting angry i would say the other side is not sane there's a lot of people that aren't on on both sides or whatever you want to call it and unfortunately the media will highlight that and show people in our your feeds or whatever over and over again look this is a representation of that side and then people will misrepresent the entire side and think all people on that side are like that which isn't true but that mentality of the incapability of under or the desire even to understand you got to want it before you train yourself to be able to to handle it without getting crazy about it it's so important and it sounds like that that won the battle in this situation that the sanity came out on top and it's funny isn't it that sanity is also sanity sanitization like staying clean and staying sane i'm the same term i'm getting i'm getting texts about this and uh it sounded like this is going to be a wild event it's gonna now because all this attention also yeah because of the attention apparently some other high-profile individuals are stepping up cool good and so i just got i was just asked if i'd be willing to sit down with a particular high-profile individual and i was like is that a joke are you kidding dude shout out to chicago man so we'll see i'm not going to say who i'm not going to say what the plan is but you know massey was unavailable and and he's a friend you know obviously i've always had disagreements with thomas massey even before we met him but i i i still do uh deeply respect him uh they're saying they want to make this one big cool especially because of this i'm like okay all right we're going to grab your questions now from the discord membership so let's let's get it ladies and gentlemen let's pull it up pull it up here and see what y'all have to say and discord's giving me the business we got a lot of questions i'm gonna do my best i'm gonna do my best who's in the dick sword i see someone said tim should scroll up okay it takes so long to scroll on discord that's cheap i really do like the meme someone posted of marco rubio as the hokage all right i just saw one where he's wearing a uh a south american dictator's outfit and yes they go ahead and run all right kevin adele says uh ian have you ever been to davis bakery in cleveland they get their corned beef from the from where corkies did and one of the uh one of the last jewish delis in the city i highly recommend it i don't know if you've ever been to and for everyone else where did you get your favorite corned beef sandwich from i don't know i don't know um schlotzky's they do corned beef i think so corned beef last week though i think my favorite corned beef was probably homemade what does that even mean corned beef did like mash corn into it it's marbled with fat so it's cornish i think it's like barbecue yeah but it's not cornish it's corned as if they did something to it i i used to like a heart attack hero that i used to get at a deli next in in downtown dc where they made it pastrami and corned beef so corned beef is typically brisket and it's just uh cured in a brine huh it's salt and stuff oh yeah the large grains of rock salt called corns of salt that's where that comes all right taylor says as ai begins eliminating white collar and later blue collar via robotics at what percent of unemployment will our government be forced to roll out ubi and what do you think it would actually be also can we schedule an irl meetup event at the mask up lesbian part yeah no way um the problem is ubi doesn't work you can't have more and you can't have more output than input into a system it just doesn't make sense no and you know elon is out there saying everybody's going to have universal high income and you know trying to persuade everybody to come over to the to the ai side and we're all going to live in this utopia first of all if you believe that if you believe that our government is going to be able to do that then we're going to have to do whatever they want you're out of your mind i'm going to i'm going to give you guys an example of why it won't work question one can you automate everything at the same time no ian says no that is correct and you cannot this means that some people will be unable to work because their jobs are gone and they'll want food so they'll demand government programs but it also means some jobs still have to be done which means you will have people who have to work and you will have people can't work or won't work or don't work and the people who don't work are going to be getting ubi well the people who do work are going to be like why aren't i getting money for free and why do i have to work then everyone argues no no ubi is supplemental so the people who still do the work you have to do get extra money and we already know what happens when you take 10 people put them in a room and say some don't have to work if you go to 10 people and say work or you get no food what do they do they all work what happens then if you say two of you are not are not allowed to work anymore they're going to say well i need food and say okay well we're going to give you food but you can't work the other people then complain we are not going to work we refuse because they don't got to do anything and they get free food that's not fair why am i working and giving my stuff away to them eventually more jobs start disappearing as labor uh effectiveness goes down now four people aren't working so this is where i'm going to get food those that have to work still have to work but you'll get extra food you know what i don't need extra food i'll do what they're doing i'll stop working and take the minimum what we're going to see is there's going to be some random guy and let's say he works at the post office and we need the job to get done he's going to say look i'm getting 50 a year with the ubi plus salary i'm fine with the 20 a year you know i'll just be frugal but it means i guitar. I'm going to go home and I'm going to play guitar or video games. Who is going to do the jobs? You can't force people to do the jobs that have to be done. And you can't subsidize the people because if you say it's supplemental, then people are going to choose the minimum every single time. Humans are lazy. It's why DoorDash works. It's just not going to work. No, it's not going to work. And look, a lot of people say the Bible is antiquated, but the Bible wrote a long time ago, if you do not work, you shall not eat. That's the way God made us. God made us in a way. Lennon said that too. What's that? Yeah. Yeah. You have to work. We have to work. We get our value out of work and out of accomplishment. And quite frankly, the idea that we're all just going to sit home and have this utopia where nobody has to work, we can all play guitar or video games. This is crazy. The doubt. So what's going to happen? So it's simple. This system can work so long as we enslave third worlders. If the third worlders are doing the base amount of work that no one else has to do, then we can be the noble elites who just don't work. But that world can't exist. We only have a couple of minutes. There are people that don't work that make money. And those are like kids that are born rich that have all the money in a savings account. And every year on their 600 million, they get 3% back that they live. That does exist. You can get food without working. Unfortunately, in this economy, so it's not really 600 million. There are people who will have maybe like between 10 and 50 million in a family trust. Yeah. Or like dividends off of stock investments and stuff. But it's usually going to be in the low millions to hundreds of thousands. There's people that literally don't have any jobs that just make money off of their money. That's true. Pretty nuts. All right. Hoth Magor says in a dark potential future where teleportation has been created and declared legally safe, if you were forcibly teleported by activists or pranksters or whatever, what would you do? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Get my hammer and hunt them down across Asgard and all space time. It's like in a dark potential future where cars have been, planes have been created. Someone puts you in a plane and flies you. What would you do after? I guess call the police and file a police report. I guess it depends on what I had to do before I got teleported. Like how desperate am I to get back to what I was doing? Well, I'd get a plane, fly back or teleport back or whatever. And then I'd call the police and I was kidnapped and here's what they look like. I don't know. I don't know what you do. I don't know. Let's see. We got a fun one. This is just a comment from. from Gonefall, said, if it's going to let me read it, Oh God, hopefully Antifa don't show up. I watched the Infidel movie from the Daily Wire, and man, it's just so realistic. I didn't understand what they were doing with the movie, and I thought it was really dumb, to be honest. Well, let me clarify. When I saw the first Trails, it was like, run, hide, fight, Infidels. And I was like, why are they making Islamic terrorists at a college? That's stupid. And then I saw the scenes. They're putting out, oh, it's actually a really clever idea, and they should have marketed it that way. All of these pro-Islamic college students and queers for Palestine, how would they respond to Islamic terrorists? Just bill the movie as that. And I'm like, oh, now I get it. Then I saw the clip where he's like, because the kids were queer for Palestine, he's like, celebrate. He's like, your children will speak of this day. And it's like, oh, I'm gay. And then he just kicks them off the roof. I'm like, now I understand the point of the movie. And there's a bunch of that in the movie. I haven't really, there's no reason that I should criticize what they're doing publicly, but I'm about to. Dallas, who I think of Dallas as a good friend of mine, Dallas Sonia, who I think owns the production company that did it. Calling it Run, Hide, Fight, this is very confusing for branding because I can't tell that it's a different movie. It was very confusing. It probably should have had a standalone name. Anyway, that's my only criticism. And it looks like a comedy with David Lucas. It's a comedy. Oh, dude, David Lucas. She's like, I lost my dad. He's like, I still can't find mine. Let's look together. I haven't seen it all, but David Lucas is great. He's fantastic. Did you get confused between Bad Boys and Bad Boys 2? Huh? Did you get confused between Bad Boys and Bad Boys? Yeah. Well, it's not a sequel. It's set in the same kind of universe. All right, all right. Let's grab one more here. Marino says, what do you think of the potential for AI and Singularity to help cultivate and develop human PSI and ESP? Certain AI models are displaying ESP already. Are we seeing the bifurcation of humanity between Nietzsche's Overman and Last Man? Yeah, because internet video already kind of, is a type of ESP. Like, if you listen to my video, you're seeing what I think. You're under, without me telling you. So AI can facilitate that transfer a lot faster and in a more simpler code, like impulses. So what I would say is these ideas that we're gonna be able to broadcast with our mind are just irrelevant because the AI is gonna be able to invent any technology you can think of. We already have devices that can scan your brainwaves. So I bought an EEG, an electroencephalogram, and it could track two brainwaves. I don't know, I don't remember which one. It's been 15 years. You'd put the headband on, and there's a computer program with a blue line and a red line that were just going up and down. If you focus, you could control the blue and red line moving up and down independently. My friend and I struggled with it. We'd get it a little bit, it would go up, and then I'd be like, wait, wait, and then I'd lose it. His sister put it on and instantly just was like, what do you want it to do, go up? Would go straight up. We were like, whoa. So what we wanted to do was control drones with an EEG. You put the drone on, it would go up. You put the drone on, and with your thoughts, you can make the drone go up and spin. We couldn't, with only two parameters, you could make it go up and down, and then you could make it rotate left and right. Theoretically, with being able to control up and down, you should technically have four controls, but we were like, we'll start early. We never actually finished it, but that was common. Then they came out with this toy where it was like the force trainer, where you put it on, it scans for one brainwave, and it's a ball in a tube, and you could turn a fan on with your brainwaves, and it would make the ball float. So that stuff's already possible. AI is going to rapidly expand those capabilities, and you're gonna put on your headset and just psychically communicate with people. - Yeah, I mean, you're already kind of psychically communicating with your arm. You know, with electromagnetic impulses from the brain, you can control the body, and that's where we're extrapolating what the body is with tech. - Yeah, I mean, your arm's attached to your body, though, so like, you could control, like, a secondary arm, like a bull's arm. - Don't do this. Don't do this. - I'm not gonna start it. - Don't rain on his parade. - We are gonna wrap things up, though. It's an amazing Friday. I'm very excited for what's gonna happen in Chicago. 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