Rep. ILHAN OMAR Talks Terror In Minneapolis And Becoming American
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Ilhan Omar, a Somali-American Congresswoman, shares her powerful journey from fleeing civil war in Somalia to becoming a prominent political figure in the U.S. Her story begins with early trauma, displacement, and survival in a refugee camp in Kenya before moving to the U.S. As a first-generation Somali immigrant and one of the first Muslim women of Somali heritage in Congress, she has faced relentless political hostility, including death threats, conspiracy theories, and xenophobic attacks. Despite this, Omar remains resolute, drawing strength from her experiences of survival and resilience. The episode highlights how her background and identity make her a focal point for xenophobic narratives, while also emphasizing her personal and familial roots—such as her upbringing with aunts and uncles, her father's love for her, and her early struggles with language and cultural assimilation. A key theme is the systemic danger faced by immigrants and minorities, especially during federal crackdowns like Operation Metro Search, where thousands of legally residing Somalis were targeted despite overwhelming evidence of their legal status. The narrative also touches on broader social issues, such as the trauma of displacement, the erosion of trust in institutions, and the need for empathy and understanding. Omar’s strength and authenticity challenge the perception of her as a political "boogeyman," instead framing her as a symbol of endurance and hope. The episode concludes by reflecting on how her personal history informs her advocacy, and how her presence in Congress serves as a vital counter-narrative to hate and misinformation.
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Your family got the visa to move to the States and to leave the refugee camp in Kenya.
Also, you learned how to scrap.
Is that where you learned how to scrap?
No, I mean, I've got six older siblings.
I've got three brothers.
And you've never lost one fight?
You could beat up anyone in Congress?
I don't want my brothers being upset about this.
You beat their butts?
I don't know why I said it that way.
You beat your brother's butts?
To a little girl?
We'll leave that to the imagination.
You were little, though.
I was.
Did you do it in front of girls their age?
No.
Thank God.
No.
They would have never lived that down.
But I rarely fought girls.
I mostly fought boys.
She's such a gangster.
I'm sorry.
So good.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
First off, I have to say this, Tampa, Florida, this weekend, please come see me, Science
Players Comedy Club, and also in a couple of weeks, I'll be in Los Angeles, California
at the Region Theater.
We sold out the first show.
They've added a second.
Enough of that.
My guest this week is Ilhan Omar, representative from Minnesota in the House of Representatives.
Since her election to the House in 2019, Omar has become one of the most well-known, oftentimes
maligned politicians in America today.
I really enjoyed getting to know her backstory.
I knew some of it, but it's really unlike any other member of Congress.
At eight years old, civil war broke out in Somalia, and she escaped to Kenya to a refugee
camp.
And at 12, she moved to Virginia with her family before eventually settling in Minneapolis.
Since her election to Congress, she's also been subject to constant harassment and even
death threats.
There have been Republican candidates for office who have called for her.
Multiple people have been imprisoned for plotting her assassination.
President Trump has targeted her repeatedly throughout her entire time in Congress.
He's advocated for her expulsion from the country, among other derogatory whatever.
Funnily enough, we had this scheduled twice before on the calendar, and those two times
were the days that New York City had blizzards this year.
It's Islamophobic.
The Jewish God is mad at me.
Hashem is mad at me.
The first two times, she had extensive security detail that was provided by Congress.
She was the only member of Congress that had it, and they needed access to do full security
sweeps of the studio.
On Friday, when I asked her team if they needed access this weekend, they said that Speaker
Johnson has revoked that security.
You know, I had a bunch of questions prepared for the Congresswoman about what it's like
for her.
A person to endorse, all that.
But what I could tell immediately is that she's genuinely just unafraid and unfazed,
or at least she seems like she is.
I don't think many people could do that.
I think it takes a really special person to do that.
So here's my interview.
We do a funny bit up top, if you're still watching.
Oh, hold on.
She said it was better than Hassan.
Just kidding.
For the record.
Ladies and gentlemen, Congresswoman from Minnesota, Ilhan Omar.
This is our third attempt at this.
It is.
It is.
How are you?
Do you think that this is cursed?
Do you think we're cursed?
You know, there's always weather issues.
No, we've had two blizzards.
You're from Minnesota, so it's just. In New York City, we've had two blizzards, and those were both on the day that you were
supposed to come.
Yeah, well, welcome to our situation in Minnesota.
Yeah, do you like it there?
It seems plenty cold, no?
Yeah, but as Prince said, it keeps the bad people away.
One thing that kind of is a little bit upsetting to me is that an enemy of the show, Mr. Hassan
Peeker, got you.
He snuck in there, and he gave you a tea that everyone. It's become a meme.
Hassan got some store-bought bottled tea that was warm, and everyone's like, wow, he's such
a great guy.
That's wild.
That's one of my favorites, though.
Fine, but I've done one better.
Okay.
I've gotten. It's a big challenge.
I've gotten authentic Somali tea.
We're going to do a cooking segment, late-night talk show style.
Can we get the boys out here?
And we're going to do a segment called Somali tea.
Okay.
We're actually going to make Somali tea?
We're going to make Somali tea.
You're going to teach me how, but I'm also going to spill some Somali tea.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds good.
I don't know if you've. I don't know if Trump will. I don't know if Trump will approve of this, but. What do you mean?
Well, I heard Donald Trump's been getting fat.
It's like that kind of thing.
We're spilling tea.
Hurry up, guys.
She's not sure about the show yet.
We've got to really win her over with this Somali tea.
Did you hear it from Trump?
No, no.
We're not that kind of. Because you can't bully. Okay, I'm just saying.
We're not going to do racism.
No, like. I'm just saying your tea can't come. No, listen, sis.
We're spilling the tea, and it's going to be piping hot.
These things need to be great.
If you were to grind, would you have a. No, no, no.
Here are the leaves.
Okay.
These are special. But the cardamom needs to be broken.
Oh, my God.
I look like an idiot, guys.
What do I turn this on?
Extra hot?
Do we have water?
We need water.
Oh, behind me?
Oh.
Okay.
So, yeah.
From a very. Is this on?
Yeah.
Look how expensive this looks, huh?
Yeah.
Wow.
This is just. I feel like a Jimmy Fallon, huh?
Well, maybe I can serve a little piping hot tea.
Because I was on Somalispot.com.
Okay.
And I heard that the truth about that Ashraf guy on TikTok
is that he's rich because he and his brother work for
slash own an NGO in Somalia.
Oh.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Okay.
You get it?
It's like tea.
I got it.
Okay.
I don't know.
A little birdie. I'm struggling trying to keep some of these things open.
It's fine.
I should be. We're good to go.
Well, that's. So, what?
A dash of clove?
Yeah.
Looks like you put about. Some cinnamon.
Cardamon.
It needs to be broken up, but okay.
Okay.
Just. A little birdie told me that the president of Somaliland,
Abdurrahman Mohamed Abdullahi,
has announced a sweeping cabinet reshuffle involving new appointments
dismissals and transfers across key ministries.
But you didn't hear that from me, sis.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
We were putting you to work.
You're the guest.
This is going to be delicious, I'm sure.
I don't know if you heard this, but Ethiopia and Eritrea have been saying that
they have more beautiful lighthouses than us.
Well, we have the longest coast in Somalia, so I don't know.
Yeah.
And I heard Eritrea said she had breathing issues, but really it was a nose job.
Oh, my God.
We're being so bad right now.
So that's our bit, Somali tea.
We're going to. This is by far the stupidest thing we've ever done on the show.
Can someone take the hot plate and pour us the tea?
Yeah.
If you lift that, I can lift this.
No, we don't.
Oh, okay.
No, no, no, no.
Okay.
Ow.
No, this is terrible.
This is very dangerous.
I'll move the whole table.
You grab that.
There we go.
Wow.
I'll leave this there.
Guys, that. Our first cooking segment has been an absolute winner.
Justin, don't put it in a solo cup.
It's going to melt it.
That's what Caleb told me.
No, we have these.
Yeah.
I was about to say, do we have mud?
I've really enjoyed learning about you for this episode.
And I think that you're obviously. Do you feel like you're one of the most well-known members of Congress?
I mean. Sure.
Would it be fair to say that you're. You're used as a political cudgel?
I might be a little bit of a boogeyman for the mad guy, yeah.
Yeah.
And it started pretty much immediately, if I remember.
Yes, right after I won my primary race for the state house.
So nobody should have actually known who I was.
Well, how did Maroon 5 find out who you were?
I don't know if any of you know this,
but in the Girls Like You video,
you are along with Ellen DeGeneres, Gal Gadot.
J-Lo.
Cardi B.
Cardi B?
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess when did you come to national prominence or something?
That was obviously before you were in Congress.
Well, when I won my state house race,
they said I was the first Somali legislator
to be elected in the United States.
And I think people didn't distinguish the fact
that I was a state legislator and not a member of Congress.
Really?
And so everybody was congratulating me.
I was getting phone calls from world leaders around the world.
Of becoming the president of the United States, yeah.
And people were going to the Capitol trying to find my office.
So everyone is very stupid.
Well. Was it just a very generous headline?
Did they not. Yeah, I think that people still. Most people don't know that state legislators and. Because you're called a representative
when you're a state legislator.
Right.
And when you're in the House,
you're also called a representative.
So people, I think, just kind of confuse the two.
And you beat a lady who wanted to lower the voting age to 12?
Is that correct?
Well, she was there for 44 years, so. Yeah.
But she said that 13-year-olds should vote?
She had some interesting ideas.
I think that's cool.
I think kids rule.
I think the maximum voting age should be 18.
I have a pretty smart 13-year-old,
and I'm not sure she's ready to vote.
I think she is.
I think the kids rock and teachers suck
and there's too much homework.
13?
That was my. They don't give as much homework.
as they used to when I was in high school now.
Oh, boo-hoo.
I know.
That rocks.
What do you mean?
Oh, no, it's sad.
If you're a parent, I'm like,
I want the same torture I went through
for my kids to go through.
Did you have them at home for COVID?
I did have them home for COVID.
Four kids.
You were in the government
and you had four kids at the Korean?
Yeah, it was wild.
Were you losing your mind?
It was actually more entertaining
because I remember one time I was cooking
lunch and my youngest daughter,
who was in elementary at the time,
I think she was in third grade,
was doing P.E. through the computer.
Computer P.E.?
Yeah, so she was on her laptop
at the dining room table
and I turned around
and she was doing jumping jacks.
Yeah, it was a very weird thing
to see her do
and then to hear everyone else doing it
through the noise
that was coming from the computer.
That must stink, though,
that you can't see your friends
for like two years.
That was painful, yeah.
But it was a good bonding time
for, I think, the four of them.
Do you think we afford kids
enough sympathy for that?
I think we only talk about
their gender surgeries,
but I don't think we talk about the fact
that they went through a tough time
growing up, no?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of
social interaction that was missed
for a lot of the kids
that went through COVID.
They're weird, no?
Yeah.
They're probably weird.
You lost your mom young.
I did.
So you were two?
Two-ish, yeah.
So I guess, like,
how did you. You had to teach yourself
how to be a mother.
I did, yeah.
I mean, and I think, you know,
I was actually just talking
to my youngest daughter about this.
You know, I was raised
by my dad and grandpa
and they were both strict,
but they liked to talk to us
as if we were adults.
And so we, you know,
were free to have opinions
and debate with them
and it wasn't like
they didn't consider it
disrespectful.
Yeah.
And, you know,
we had a lot of, like,
autonomy as kids
and so that's kind of
how I raise my kids.
It's like they know
what not to do.
Uh-huh.
But they're also, like,
very independent and. Thank you, Justin.
Very hard.
I appreciate it.
Great timing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What's the l'chaim in Somalia?
What's the cheers?
Oh, we don't do cheers, but. Oh, because it's no. Yeah, haram.
Yeah.
Well, l'chaim.
It didn't make it
into our vocabulary.
L'chaim, yeah.
I've burned my tongue, so. Maybe salut.
Salut.
Yes, we were colonized
by the Italians,
so there's a lot
of Italian influence.
Yeah, one thing,
when you were talking
about your father,
that kind of. I mean, my parents
moved to. I moved to America as well,
and I, like,
had to kind of
communicate American culture.
I know you moved here
as a child.
Yeah.
But, like,
beyond being a single dad,
he also had to. was raising his kids
in this alien culture.
Yeah.
And, you know,
there's, like,
a really cute part
of your book
where you talk about, like,
where you want to wear,
like, cute clothes
in high school.
Yeah.
And he was, like,
fine with that,
but he's like,
but no kissing.
If you kiss,
I'm out.
I'm out on that.
You know?
Yeah, he was out
on a lot of things.
Yeah, me too.
I remember in sixth grade,
my parents got me
regular underpants,
and then sixth grade,
you have to start changing
for gym class.
Yeah.
And so I asked my parents
if I could get boxers,
and my dad was like,
do you. why would a boy
care about his underpants?
I was like,
I don't know.
People are calling me gay.
I don't know.
I don't. I'm not gay.
Yeah.
And he's like,
do you have body dysmorphia?
I'm like,
what does that mean?
And so I had boxers
for pajamas,
and I used to just. They do go from zero
to 100.
Immigrant parents?
Yeah.
Nothing makes sense to them.
It's really. I do still have
a little bit of that,
even though, like,
I've been here
for over 30 years.
I still do have, like,
a little bit
of the immigrant parent.
My kids are like,
okay, relax.
Like, we were joking.
But you had to learn
American.
Yes.
We're hopping around a lot
because I want to get into
your story before that,
but what were the things
that you could
kind of educate. Was it the show
that you may watch?
I mean,
I could watch
anything because my. I love TV.
My dad didn't have
any context to, like,
what was on TV,
what was appropriate
or not appropriate,
and he also had
to work a lot,
so he wasn't really home.
Yeah.
And so I watched, like,
Family Matters
and. Urkel.
Yeah.
You were raised on. Urkel taught you?
I was raised on everything
that would come on TV
after I got out of school,
so. Yeah.
The TV was just on
all the time.
And, like,
but I didn't speak English,
and I was. I was struggling
because the only words
when I came
at the age of 12
that I knew. Did I do that?
No.
Steve Urkel.
No, I would learn that.
I know your first words.
It was hello and shut up.
Hello, shut up.
And that's not that fun
when that's the only words
you know in sixth grade, so. That's so cute.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
Your teacher wrote something
in your yearbook
that I thought was adorable.
I don't want to misquote it,
but it said, like,
Ilhan, like, age 11.
Hello, shut up.
Age 12.
Hello, my name is Ilhan Naisavich.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, like,
it makes me want to cry.
It's so cute.
It went Mr. Miller.
It was very. Yeah, that was very cute.
So, what, like,
when did. I suppose, like,
when did you first
feel American, you know?
I don't. I don't know
if there's a moment.
I believe when I could
communicate and, like,
navigate life
and feel, like,
just like one of the other kids.
Maybe it's maybe when I felt
like I was American.
Maybe that was, like,
14, 13, 14.
That's fast.
Yes.
Because you came here at 11, no?
12.
12.
So, in two years,
you learned English and. I was pretty fluent
within, like,
three to six months.
And you learned Baywatch.
You learned. Yeah, I would watch the TV
with the captions on.
God, I love TV.
My sister and I
would just have the dialogue.
That they were having on TV.
Yeah.
And that was kind. Like, it helped, I guess,
not to develop
a strong accent as well.
Yeah.
But, yeah, like,
I think much of my English
before, you know,
I got into my formal education
was, like, context-based.
Yeah.
All my non-American, like,
family learned it from friends.
Yeah.
And they'd be like,
Adam, you're such a chandelier.
You're so sarcastic.
I'm like, yeah, it's true.
I am.
I'm definitely not a Ross.
I wish I was a Joey
a little bit sometimes.
Nobody wants to be a Ross.
Ross?
What a schmuck.
Yeah, no.
I also don't know
if I could handle a Joey.
Joey?
Why are you so stupid?
Eh, yeah.
Joey's like, you feel like,
yeah, like,
you could toss him away.
Yeah, it was too painful
to hang out with.
It was fun while it lasted, Joey,
but you're not.
You're not.
You're no thinker.
I need someone more intellectual.
I think we could talk for an hour.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm a conversationalist,
so I'd like people
who could hold a conversation.
And Joey would be like,
I thought you were a Somalier.
Yeah.
You're like, Somalian.
What's wrong with you, Joey?
How do you even
have a license to drive?
You shouldn't be allowed to vote.
You're spoken about so much,
but I don't think people understand
how much of a journey
your life has been
and potentially how it's made you
the person you are today.
Right.
Which is a person that's like,
Fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.
We're born in Mogadishu. How old were you when the Civil War broke out?
Eight.
Eight. What were your memories of Somalia before that?
Well, this is the thing that people usually get upset about.
Because they're like, "Oh, she just glorifies her childhood."
And my childhood was pretty normal.
Like not being in a war, that sounds pretty nice.
The parts where that weren't in a war.
Yeah, part of my life. I grew up in a very loud, loving home.
My mother, it's a fascinating story culturally.
In Somalia, the tradition is if you get married, you have two options.
Either you have your own home with your wife.
And your kids.
Or if you don't have enough resources,
the husband moves his wife in with his family.
The in-laws.
Yes.
It's got to be annoying.
Or beautiful.
Yeah, it depends on who the in-laws are.
And my mother was the firstborn of her family.
And she wanted to. She wanted to help her dad economically.
She wanted to help make sure her siblings were raised well.
She was an ethnic minority too?
She was. She's of Yemeni heritage.
And so she was very adamant that any suitor had to agree to move in with her family.
Which was a cultural no-no.
And so my dad, when supposedly she was. There was this coffee shop that he would frequent after work.
And she would come by that coffee shop to go home.
And he said it was love at first sight.
He wanted to know who this woman was.
And started to show. He figured out where she worked.
And started to show up at her job.
And kept asking to talk to her.
And she wasn't interested.
But eventually said yes.
He wore her down.
He wore her down.
And then she made her demand that if they were to get married, he had to move in.
And that was, I suppose, a hard choice for my father.
But he was in love.
With her mother?
With her mother and father.
And her siblings, I know.
And she said yes.
And I think, as it would be, it was probably one of the best choices he made.
And so he moved in.
And we were born in my grandfather's house.
My grandmother died before I was born.
So my mom had younger siblings that she had to help take care of as she was having kids.
And so I grew up with my aunts and uncles along with my siblings.
And so it was a full house.
And you were the youngest, too?
I'm the youngest of seven.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Being a member of Congress and understanding that there's a lot going on.
And I think, as it would be, I think it's important to be aware of that.
But I think, as it would be, I think it's important to be aware of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so you grew up with your first child in a war-torn environment.
What was that like as an eight-year-old?
I mean, what are your memories of that?
It's distorting because, like I said, I had a pretty normal childhood.
My family was upper middle class for Somalia standard in the '80s.
Again, I lived with my mother before she passed.
Who had full-time employment, my father, my grandfather, my aunts and uncles who were
all teachers.
And so there's multiple salaries coming into our one household.
And so we were pretty comfortable.
And then we went from one day just being a normal kid, going to school and playing.
And the next day, kids around your age are walking around with rifles and there's bombs
dropping.
And so I was like, "Oh, I'm going to be a normal kid."
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm going to be a normal kid."
Yeah, I mean, I do think of war through the lens of someone who survived one.
And I understand the lasting impacts of war.
It's the displacement.
It's the trauma that you can't get rid of.
I mean, I still have PTSD.
There's certain environments that trigger it.
And I. It's. And I think for a lot of people, especially a lot of people in the United States, unless
you've been a service member and been in combat zone, people can't fully comprehend.
So they're just like, "Oh, there's war and things get back to normal and everybody's
fine."
And nobody accounts for the destruction that happens.
Nobody accounts for the missed years of education that instability brings, the loss of jobs,
the loss of infrastructure, the loss of your memories, the connection to family, to your
history.
I get a lot of people who are like, "Yeah, you should be grateful that you have this
beautiful life."
I am grateful enormously that I have this beautiful life.
More so.
But it comes with a cost.
Yeah.
And I think that a lot of people. we are in America. A lot of people just see people who come here seeking a new life and just are
like, why aren't you just really excited? It's like, yeah, they are excited, but they also have
the human capacity to miss what was lost. You know, my great grandmother, who also lived with
us and helped raise us, I didn't see her for many years after the war. She passed away without me
saying goodbye to her, and I would have loved to have been by her side when she passed away,
as I was with my grandfather and father. I think there's this notion of what a refugee is.
In learning about you and researching for this, I kind of, obviously there's a xenophobic
thing about you. I think there's a xenophobic thing about you. I think there's a xenophobic
thing happening which is like for the first time i was i'm 38 or 39 fuck i'm 39 it sounds so bad
i'm 40 and i'm turning 44 this year so i don't i don't know why you hanged up on the we're the
same age i'm older five it sounds like we're the same age and you're in congress you would have
been in eighth grade when i was graduating high school so you're okay yeah we you would have you
would have bullied me probably no i was very much opposed to we would have been best friends
obviously yeah i would have fought your bullies for you no i didn't have any because i was so
funny all the bullies were laughing so much at my funny jokes uh no but uh i thought that's
how people become funny is because they get bullied a hundred percent a hundred percent
wow we're having a therapy session is that what's happening right now yeah i'm gonna get on the
couch uh uh well no i i think there's obviously there's it seems like this is the most
xenophobic i've ever seen of the country but also there's a notion more so yeah than his first term
oh i mean it's not him it's just uh it's people you know but on the the other side i think there's
a notion of refugee like there's there's those like posters like refugees are welcome here
almost as if like um you know that like uh you're lesser than kind of even in the liberal sense like
oh please come
like you know like come sit down it's well-meaning though it's well-meaning for sure but it's it's
like um patronizing being a refugee has equipped you as an adult and is a is oh yeah i mean my my
resilience is because i was a refugee and i you know like the you were supposed to come twice
and your security detail was supposed to do an extensive sweep you had you had a like secret
service level security um because they're
multiple people that are incarcerated for plotting assassinations um obviously
we saw at the town hall recently that uh yeah but you you fucking charged you were like i did i
thought you're like what bitch yeah you charged him yeah i mean i did the only thing i knew how
to do what dawned on me it was like yeah because like she walked to kenya as an eight-year-old
you're a nine-year-old you know like uh close enough i didn't walk all the way to kenya
but yes well you don't say say walk to them make it sound worse what did you what you got a
what you got a piggyback ride you went to what do you come on just let me do that okay
let me do the jewish thing she walked to kenya and then seeing members republican
candidates for office calling for your execution and seeing the president uh
fixated on you. I think it's fair to say. Is that where your bravery comes from? I mean,
or am I off base? Well, I mean, and I think the,
in, in the refugee story, I think, or, or any sort of displacement story through traumatic events
is that, is, you know, that old adage of, you know, what doesn't break you makes you stronger.
You know, there are people who do end up being broken, right? Like, but I think it did the
opposite for me. I think it gave me a sense of, like, I survived all of these things that could
have destroyed me, could have killed me. And so what is the point of having fear?
It's like, I kind of really don't have the normal sense of fear. I mean, I have irrational fear of
certain things, but I don't have. Like what? Snakes?
I'm a little, like, claustrophobic. Me too.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, like, because we had to hide under beds,
you know, when the, when the bombs would drop and, you know, or, like, try to hold on to the
side of a wall just to make sure if it collapsed that you could crawl out. But I think those tight
corners, being put in those tight corners, I think maybe helped me develop just a little bit
of claustrophobia. I feel bad for saying me too, but,
yeah. Yeah. But I mean, there's different things that happen, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think,
you know, when you, when you are, you know, eight and you are crossing multiple checkpoints and
people have guns pointed at you, you know, like, you just develop a sense of, like,
I got through that, you know, what, what else could happen?
It reminds me a lot of when my dad wouldn't get me boxers,
shorts when I was in sixth grade. You know, we've both been, we have different stories and we've
been through, I've been through a lot. Yeah. Very traumatic. I didn't get, I didn't hit puberty
until basically after 10th grade. So we've both been through a lot, you know? Isn't that not the
normal age? I know your grievance politics. No, it's not the normal age. Some of the, in sixth
grade, some of them are like with beards and we're like, how are we the same grade? Two kids had sex
in sixth grade. And I went home and I was like, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know. I cried. I don't know why I'm telling a sitting member of Congress this, but I cried.
And I remember both their full names still to this day. I cried. I said, I thought we were just
kids. Sex? You saw them? Did they tell you about it? What's the context of this? After sixth grade,
you can beat both their names. Just had sex. And I cried. They're going to sue you for sharing this.
So tell us about Kenya. Did you chill with Malik Obama ever?
No. Did you ever link up with Malik Obama? You know who he is? The brother? Yeah, yeah. He's like
MAGA. Yeah. No, no. I don't know. He's a hater. He's hating from Kenya. He's just tweeting and
hating. I don't think we would have been in the same region of Kenya, but. No. So your mentor
in Kenya was Malik Obama. Is he related to Barack Obama or is that like a common last name? Is it
family got the visa to move to the States and to leave the refugee camp in Kenya. We've got three brothers. To a little
girl? I was. No. Thank God. I'm sorry. Girls
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Bud? I don't. Who's Bud? Crawford. Yes. He's the man. Yes, he's amazing. We watched his
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You asked your dad why America, why you chose America.
My grandpa.
Your grandfather.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said America was the only country in the world.
country in the world where you will eventually become an American and in it
it's interesting because he was very right about that you know I don't know
too many places where an immigrant can absorb the identity of the new nation
they arrive in well I guess because it's not an ethnicity right yeah like German
is an ethnicity yeah I know a lot of people use Japan as an example which is
crazy I mean I I guess that that's the thing I always thought was awesome about
America I mean the people here who would be you know the inhabitants of what was
to become America we're not
we're not
we're not
calling themselves that and so I think that creates the distinction where you
know like a country like Somalia the people are Somali so everyone else
that's there like they have their own ethnic backgrounds and stories but
there is a core group of people who are just Somali as a legislator that is
that's hijabi black and a woman do you think that that is
kind of on the surface why so much attention negative attention is paid to
you I mean I mean I would say less because I'm a woman and black more
because I'm an immigrant and visibly Muslim yeah yeah one thing that's odd to
me is like it's like the Obama era right like you seem like a person that like it
would be the State of the Union or something you point to the balcony be
like Ilhan Omar was a refugee in Kenya and she came to America and she worked
her way up and became a success yeah it used to be something that we celebrate
yeah but I think that is the backlash is because it was celebrated right like the
the reason you know earlier you asked like why this you know how does
everybody know you how do you you know come to national attention it's because
I was a first for a whole community that like was barely
recognized as being in the country yeah and you know Here I am less than a little
over 20 years after arriving here as a kid as a member of Congress you're the
first African refugee I am the first African you're the first Somalian yeah
you're the first Muslim woman yeah - where's Rashida Rashida together yeah
Rashida but was it alphabetical yeah but I'm also the first Muslim not born in
the u.s. to ever serve in Congress oh so Rashida
doesn't have that on you no she's born here yeah she's born here yeah that's
kind of soft of Rashida yeah I mean then Keith Ellison was born here Andre Carson
was born here yeah and Latifah Simon was born here so there's four of us that are
in Congress yeah but everybody seems to only remember I'm I'm the Muslim one
that exists there because yeah I'm visibly Muslim and I'm also an immigrant
do you think they're also haters because like I don't know everyone's no people
are beautiful in their own ways
what you think Lindsey Graham is beautiful in his own way I'm sure
somebody thinks you work at an ugly office okay let's be real have you seen
some of these people why are we let them in charge of us you can contest okay
listen I'm not look at them some of it wait you think Mitch McConnell got got
there because of pretty privilege you think well what do you think I got there
because of pretty privilege no I think you overcame a lot okay yeah thank you I
appreciate that
you think I got there because of pretty privilege no I think you overcame a lot okay well thank you I appreciate that I didn't know where we were going with this I'm just saying you know what a
I didn't know where we were going with this I'm just saying you know what a work at an ugly place one of my opponents when I
work at an ugly place one of my opponents when I
work at an ugly place one of my opponents when I first ran for office was busted no said
first ran for office was busted no said said that I was gaining traction because
said that I was gaining traction because
said that I was gaining traction because I was attractive uh-huh like you're like
I was attractive uh-huh like you're like
I was attractive uh-huh like you're like thanks but no thanks yeah yeah no I
thanks but no thanks yeah yeah no I
thanks but no thanks yeah yeah no I appreciated the compliment um but I'm
appreciated the compliment um but I'm
appreciated the compliment um but I'm pretty sure it was more than that when
pretty sure it was more than that when
pretty sure it was more than that when you got into the house uh I think
you got into the house uh I think
you got into the house uh I think probably our audience's understanding of
probably our audience's understanding of
probably our audience's understanding of Nancy Pelosi is kind of probably
Nancy Pelosi is kind of probably
Nancy Pelosi is kind of probably negative I don't know people are very
negative I don't know people are very
negative I don't know people are very hate congress in general can you tell us
hate congress in general can you tell us
hate congress in general can you tell us a little bit about like uh
a little bit about like uh
a little bit about like uh you know what she told you about being a
you know what she told you about being a
you know what she told you about being a woman in
woman in
woman in government why are you laughing I
government why are you laughing I
government why are you laughing I meant to say that why is she laughing at
meant to say that why is she laughing at
meant to say that why is she laughing at me
me
me I don't know if she did I say woman how
I don't know if she did I say woman how
I don't know if she did I say woman how did I say
did I say sorry sorry
sorry sorry
sorry sorry I've just never met someone in a maroon
I've just never met someone in a maroon
I've just never met someone in a maroon 5 music video with Ellen and Gal Gadot
5 music video with Ellen and Gal Gadot
5 music video with Ellen and Gal Gadot and Millie Bobby Brown
and Millie Bobby Brown
and Millie Bobby Brown young Millie
young Millie
young Millie no I mean
no I mean
no I mean Pelosi
Pelosi
Pelosi is
is
is a fascinating person because
a fascinating person because
a fascinating person because you know she's
you know she's
you know she's um
um
um an only daughter to a family of like
an only daughter to a family of like
an only daughter to a family of like many boys
many boys
many boys yeah also political family yeah and she
yeah also political family yeah and she
yeah also political family yeah and she had um her own
had um her own
had um her own you know I think
you know I think
you know I think strengthening growing up
strengthening growing up
strengthening growing up with lots of brothers in the same
with lots of brothers in the same
with lots of brothers in the same way that I did
way that I did
way that I did um she was very close with her father
um she was very close with her father
um she was very close with her father like I did so we had sort of
like I did so we had sort of
like I did so we had sort of you know some of those kind of um
you know some of those kind of um
you know some of those kind of um things in in common a little a little
things in in common a little a little
things in in common a little a little toughness
toughness
toughness in in us that was um intentionally
in in us that was um intentionally
in in us that was um intentionally built by our brothers and father
built by our brothers and father
built by our brothers and father uh and
uh and you know I don't take she
you know I don't take she
you know I don't take she doesn't take so it was it was easy
doesn't take so it was it was easy
doesn't take so it was it was easy to to connect in that way she she said
to to connect in that way she she said
to to connect in that way she she said that they're going to be beat to you
that they're going to be beat to you
that they're going to be beat to you because you're a girl
because you're a girl
because you're a girl no but I mean she's she's you know she
no but I mean she's she's you know she
no but I mean she's she's you know she also had to denounce me a few times you
also had to denounce me a few times you
also had to denounce me a few times you know
know
know we all denounced you yeah yeah so you
we all denounced you yeah yeah so you
we all denounced you yeah yeah so you know I think she understood that I
know I think she understood that I
know I think she understood that I I didn't care I I think the first time
I I didn't care I I think the first time
I I didn't care I I think the first time I heard about you was during the
I heard about you was during the
I heard about you was during the benjamin's tweet
benjamin's tweet
benjamin's tweet and something that really pissed me off
and something that really pissed me off
and something that really pissed me off was that
was that
was that I feel like um a lot of people online
I feel like um a lot of people online
I feel like um a lot of people online kind of people I would expect even
kind of people I would expect even
kind of people I would expect even uh kind of took the bait on that one
uh kind of took the bait on that one
uh kind of took the bait on that one yeah it was a it was a generational
yeah it was a it was a generational
yeah it was a it was a generational miss yeah what do you but there was a
miss yeah what do you but there was a
miss yeah what do you but there was a soul voice that
soul voice that
soul voice that uh that spoke out of the darkness yeah
uh that spoke out of the darkness yeah
uh that spoke out of the darkness yeah on your behalf okay
on your behalf okay
on your behalf okay online what was it like to to hear that
online what was it like to to hear that
online what was it like to to hear that person standing up for you
person standing up for you
person standing up for you who's
who's
who's is that you Adam okay I got in big
is that you Adam okay I got in big
is that you Adam okay I got in big trouble okay well we appreciated it
trouble okay well we appreciated it
trouble okay well we appreciated it well you're gonna get mad at me about
well you're gonna get mad at me about
well you're gonna get mad at me about what I said but I was upset because
what I said but I was upset because
what I said but I was upset because people are lecturing you on
people are lecturing you on
people are lecturing you on anti-semitism just to back up um
anti-semitism just to back up um
anti-semitism just to back up um uh you got a tweet about APAC which is
uh you got a tweet about APAC which is
uh you got a tweet about APAC which is a lobbying organization right which
a lobbying organization right which
a lobbying organization right which uses uh very toxic lobbying sure
uses uh very toxic lobbying sure
uses uh very toxic lobbying sure we know we love them uh no but uh you
we know we love them uh no but uh you
we know we love them uh no but uh you got a tweet that was all about the
got a tweet that was all about the
got a tweet that was all about the benjamins like meeting that money and
benjamins like meeting that money and
benjamins like meeting that money and government also like from the song also
government also like from the song also
government also like from the song also the the rap song yeah also his name is
the the rap song yeah also his name is
the the rap song yeah also his name is Benjamin Netanyahu I mean it worked on
Benjamin Netanyahu I mean it worked on
Benjamin Netanyahu I mean it worked on three it was a
three it was a
three it was a it was a triple entendre well the other
it was a triple entendre well the other
it was a triple entendre well the other layers had no factor in outside of the
layers had no factor in outside of the
layers had no factor in outside of the yeah it was outside of the bars yeah
yeah it was outside of the bars yeah
yeah it was outside of the bars yeah and uh but like I said I think I was too
and uh but like I said I think I was too
and uh but like I said I think I was too young for a lot of the people who were
young for a lot of the people who were
young for a lot of the people who were commenting on it yeah they were like
commenting on it yeah they were like
commenting on it yeah they were like Benjamin Franklin would never yeah yeah
Benjamin Franklin would never yeah yeah
Benjamin Franklin would never yeah yeah uh yeah and then I got upset because
yeah and then I got upset because
yeah and then I got upset because you were getting lectured by a certain
you were getting lectured by a certain
you were getting lectured by a certain daughter of a former president
daughter of a former president
daughter of a former president and I did a mean tweet and she
and I did a mean tweet and she
and I did a mean tweet and she found it I didn't even
found it I didn't even
found it I didn't even at her
at her
at her and so she uh said that I was an anti-semite
and so she uh said that I was an anti-semite
and so she uh said that I was an anti-semite I tweeted Chelsea Clinton isn't even
I tweeted Chelsea Clinton isn't even
I tweeted Chelsea Clinton isn't even Jewish she's just ugly
Jewish she's just ugly
Jewish she's just ugly sorry sorry
sorry sorry
sorry sorry I'm that is that a real tweet yeah
sorry I'm that is that a real tweet yeah
sorry I'm that is that a real tweet yeah I'm sorry but I was upset on your behalf
I'm sorry but I was upset on your behalf
I'm sorry but I was upset on your behalf and
and
and people are piling on I I regret it and
people are piling on I I regret it and
people are piling on I I regret it and I'm sorry
I'm sorry
I'm sorry it Jewish comedy the basis of Jewish
it Jewish comedy the basis of Jewish
it Jewish comedy the basis of Jewish comedy self-deprecation we
comedy self-deprecation we
comedy self-deprecation we I'm just saying we're ugly
I'm just saying we're ugly
I'm just saying we're ugly we have that in common Somalis are very
we have that in common Somalis are very
we have that in common Somalis are very ugly yeah was that when did you know that
ugly yeah was that when did you know that
ugly yeah was that when did you know that it was gonna be like this I suppose
it was gonna be like this I suppose
it was gonna be like this I suppose like did you because that was fairly early
like did you because that was fairly early
like did you because that was fairly early on was my when did it first month
on was my when did it first month
on was my when did it first month third week first month at the job
third week first month at the job
third week first month at the job everyone's telling you that you're Adolf
everyone's telling you that you're Adolf
everyone's telling you that you're Adolf Hitler or something did it don't when
Hitler or something did it don't when
Hitler or something did it don't when did it dawn on you it's gonna be like
Hitler or something did it dawn on you it's gonna be like you're eating a meat or
you're eating a meat or
you're eating a meat or something your third month when they said
something your third month when they said
something your third month when they said you were Pol Pot or whatever yeah I
you were Pol Pot or whatever yeah I
you were Pol Pot or whatever yeah I don't I mean I don't know I guess like
don't I mean I don't know I guess like
don't I mean I don't know I guess like when I first ran you know I thought of
when I first ran you know I thought of
when I first ran you know I thought of all the horrible things that could
all the horrible things that could
all the horrible things that could happen wrote a list of ten ten worst
happen wrote a list of ten ten worst
happen wrote a list of ten ten worst possibilities and none of it has
possibilities and none of it has
possibilities and none of it has actually happened so what were some of
actually happened so what were some of
actually happened so what were some of those bad bad ones yeah really yeah I'm
those bad bad ones yeah really yeah I'm
those bad bad ones yeah really yeah I'm not gonna say it so somebody can do it
not gonna say it so somebody can do it
not gonna say it so somebody can do it to me I'm not putting it out that's a
to me I'm not putting it out that's a
to me I'm not putting it out that's a good that's smart yeah yeah but I mean
good that's smart yeah yeah but I mean
good that's smart yeah yeah but I mean like I you know so I think I keep a
like I you know so I think I keep a
like I you know so I think I keep a level ahead at Ness because it's not as
level ahead at Ness because it's not as
level ahead at Ness because it's not as bad as I thought which is
It's like, oh, my God, this is horrible.
And I'm like, eh, it's really not as bad as it could be.
The strange thing to me is that Somalis are such a small ethnic minority in America,
and there's a fixation that's surfaced.
And Trump was talking about them in 2016, I believe, when he was running.
Yeah, he came to Minnesota and said we were there without the permission of Minnesotans
and we should all get out.
You didn't ask?
Apparently.
Why Minnesota?
What about Arizona or something?
There are Somalis in Arizona.
Yeah, the smart ones.
Why don't you go up there with the snow?
This is as different as possible.
We're naturally nomads, which culturally means somebody usually goes to a place and says.
Why are you nomad away from the snow?
This is a good place for people to live and raise a family.
My family was settled in Arlington.
And that's where I went to middle school.
And my older siblings, realizing that I'd missed four years of schooling,
really wanted a good education system for me so that I could graduate on time
and not get lost in the system.
And they were doing research in Minnesota at the time, had a really good education system.
And so that's how we ended up in Minnesota.
But the first family in Minnesota came from San Diego.
Well, it's way nicer there in San Diego.
It's fabulous.
He had a lot of kids, and the cost of living was too much.
Oh, California.
Don't get me started.
Yeah, so he moved to Marshall, Minnesota.
Oh, that sounds terrible.
Where it was like he was paying 10% for rent than what he was paying in San Diego, which meant he had the freedom to start a business.
And I think he's the first Somali millionaire.
I want to talk about Minneapolis.
I kind of have this, like, well, first off, I just, like, I think it's valuable to hear, like,
from obviously two constituents of yours were killed, right?
By ICE and CPP.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, first off, like, just tell us, like, what you saw transpiring in your district, in your home city.
Yeah, I mean, the federal occupation of Minnesota was a little scary.
We had over 4,000 ICE and CPP agents, and it was, you know, masked men patrolling the streets with machine guns, stopping cars, dragging people out of the cars, breaking windows, arresting people who were telling them that they were citizens, had their documents, they were legally in the United States.
You know, obviously, they killed Rene Good and Alex Preddy for just monitoring and documenting the brutality that they were witnessing with so many people being disappeared, so many businesses being shut down, lots of empty schools.
There was a third of our schools had presence of children.
Yeah.
It was very. Very scary.
What's it like to be a leader of a community that's going, like, going through that?
It's terrifying.
Yeah.
Especially when you, yourself, your, you know, family members are, you know, also part of the targeted group.
Yeah.
And so, you know, you're caring for your constituents and trying to provide as much information as you can and, you know, chasing down people who've disappeared through. A maze of a system trying to identify where they are, where they've been taken to, because they were usually disappearing people within three hours from the state.
So that was very difficult for us to track people down.
And then you're worried, you know, if one of your family members is going to be next.
Do you think the president watched a YouTube video and didn't. Realize that most Somali. The vast, vast, vast majority of Somalis are legally in Minneapolis or here legally?
Yeah.
I mean, that was the most baffling part, right?
Because they said. What percentage of the Somali community are legal?
Like, 98% or something?
Yeah, 98%.
Yeah.
No, they said they were going through this mass deportation of Somalis, which is what Operation Metro Search was about.
Yeah.
And, you know, to. You know, they canceled the protective temporary. They announced that they would cancel that, which they couldn't automatically cancel it because those are timed, right?
And so it was. For a lot of us, we were like, who is. Who are you mass deporting?
Because, you know, none of us are deportable.
Yeah.
And that was the thing that was disturbing about it because they were going into these Somali restaurants.
Somali businesses, Somali, you know, heavy neighborhoods, and they were, like, basically snatching people only to have to let them out within a few hours.
And then they said, okay, so anybody who came in through a refugee status since 2021 will take all of them to Texas and Louisiana.
We will revet them.
And so they. We did that for a little over 4,000 people, and then they had to return all of them because their vetting was. They were here illegally.
Yeah.
And they'd already been severely vetted.
That vetting, when you're leaving a refugee camp, takes three to five years, sometimes up to 10 years.
You know, they're checking your bone density.
They're, you know. It's just. It's a very invasive vetting process.
And so. So it was, again, just a waste of money and a way to terrorize people who were just adjusting to life in America.
But I think a lot also about the, I mean, largely Latino people getting detained and disappeared.
Yeah, I mean, we recently. They recently released a report of the 4,000 people they eventually arrested, less than 3% were Somali.
Yeah.
Yeah, it just. It seems to me like an old man watched a YouTube video and then wanted to arrest a bunch of people that were here legally,
and then Latinos suffered the consequences.
Right, yeah.
Who come from, you know, countries that are experiencing severe vulnerability.
It's our. Yeah.
You know, it's the Venezuelans, it's the people from Ecuador, a lot of young people who fled.
Trafficking and gang life in Ecuador are being caught up in it.
You know, your family were lucky enough to get a visa to come here.
You know, do you often think about what your life would be like had you not?
When you think about that, does that give you a deeper understanding of those people?
I mean, it's hard to predict what my life would have been like.
Yeah.
It certainly wouldn't be like what it is today.
So I don't know.
I can't predict the future for an Ilhan that doesn't leave that camp when I did.
I've been to other refugee camps in Kenya where I've met some kids I knew from the refugee camp I was in
who are raising kids in that refugee camp.
They're still refugees.
Yeah.
Yeah, so they have, you know, another generation of kids that are born into a refugee camp.
Wow.
Yeah.
I don't even know what I would have been into at 12 or 15 or, you know.
Do they get bay wash?
I don't think so.
Like, when you're a kid in school, you learn about periods of history where countries that had laws
started taking people from their homes and locking them in cages.
Mm-hmm.
And you think when you're a kid, what do you do?
And I've been thinking a lot about that nowadays.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know what the answer is.
And so what do we do?
Like, about the people that are in Florida or, you know, in Texas or Louisiana that are,
many of them here legally that are dying in captivity, that are not being charged with crimes.
So what do we do if it's happening now?
Yeah.
I mean, it's always the challenge.
It's always the challenge, right?
Because you can think about what you would do, but then you've got the constraints of what the legal system
that you're living under.
People forget that brutality is oftentimes legalized.
Yeah.
And when people say, you know, why didn't you do this or why didn't, you know, these people do that,
they forget that there was a whole system to make it hard for people to do anything.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
and they would.
would risk their own lives, they would risk their own captivity, and you know in
Minneapolis we've had we've had people, I went to this shopping center that has
housing attached to it, and I was meeting with the Business Association there, and
one of the one of them explained that the condos above this businesses were
choosing to allow some of the workers to stay with them, so they didn't have to
travel, that they you know they felt safe to just be able to go to work in the
same building, instead of being exposed to the outside environment, and so you
know there are
places like Minneapolis where people have figured out a way to keep their
neighbors safe, we had you know soccer moms you know organizing pickups and
drop-offs for the neighborhood children, we had block watches where parents
organized themselves to take shifts to alert other people when ICE or CPP would
be in the neighborhood, and so there you know there are ways that people have to
figure it out, but there is the risk right you you can get killed like Renee
and Alex have, and that's that's the choices that people have to you know have
to figure out, then something that people say to me all the time like you're an
immigrant, you're risking a lot by being in the forefront of this fight, but to me
it is a choice I consciously make, because I would want if there was a
member of Congress that represented me, I would want them doing everything that
they could in in defending me and speaking up for me, and not just being
worried about what would happen to them, but what happened to the people that they
represent, and so it's a it's a it's a loaded thing to think about, but you know
it's oftentimes we're hearing from the Democrats like vote for us in the midterms
if you want something to happen, yeah right, but I mean this was a this was a
program under Obama you know, child separation was happening under Biden, so
do you as a member of that caucus have faith in the party were you to be
successful in the midterms?
Close the places, shut the places down where people have been sent without due
process and are dying? Is that possible? I do believe, right, when you when you
think about the mass deportation program under Obama and private detention center
is becoming a thing under Obama, you now see Democrats
finally realizing that we cannot create systems that can be exploited by evil,
yeah, to them they thought at the time you know this was cost-saving or it was
a way to expedite or to do something in in a way to reform the system, but they
gave a playbook to the most evil people like Stephen Miller, who have now allowed
these detention centers and even with the first Trump administration where
people dying in there and covering up it's normal and sometimes being killed
in in these detention centers without accountability where you can have mass
agents and we're now just begging for the bare minimum of like can you go back
to what it's actually legally required for you to do?
And so I do see now when Democrats say put us back in charge that it is about
reining this in, it is about recognizing that we've allowed for a system that
could be abusive to be abusive and we have Republicans right now who are in
charge who are refusing to exercise any of the checks and balances that are
within their purview and so Democrats are not asking for much all they're
asking for is allow us to at least have a check and balance which you know at
this moment I think it's a huge selling point because it just feels like we are
living with a one-man rule and that's not you know what America is supposed to
be.
I guess I'll close with this one last thing all right I know that answer it
like that it's not the most satisfying thing but it you know with a lot of them
a lot of your boys we can't pass these great policies because obviously we have
Trump for president in the next two years
even if we were to win the majority but what we can do is make it difficult for
him to have the majority.
We can't have this one-man rule have you met him no no no what do you say to you
meet him I'm not sure it depends it changes by the day what would you say
just right now what are you feeling right now let's say I'm Trump hey what's
up I'm Trump I've been telling people to kill you yeah I might actually curse him
out in person yeah at this day the customs I'm not gonna beat them no it's
okay
we'll cut it just say the cusses congresswoman just say the cut I've never
heard we don't we don't allow cussing on the show but this is one time I think we
can make an exception let's hear those cusses all right you share your story I
think you are kind of an example of what is great great about America it you can
make a success of yourself you could go to college at the Mall of America and
how did you how did you find out that the college at the Mall of America wasn't
on the up-and-up were you in a sorority no I heard that you rushed Victoria's
Secret but you got into hot you got in a hot topic the weird girl sorority yeah
me and the brothers at a Hollister we were fuck we were doing beer ball you
went to college at a at a mall yeah you might be the first thing Congress Mall
College it was it was one of those you know exploitive yeah Jared yeah and they
kusher wick off got this you think in Pakistan it's quite I think that I think
they got this I don't think so no no I have no no faith but it was it was one
of those like schools where they you know prayed on the first time yeah first time
college it's you know fat like you'd be the first one to go to college in your
family did you live on or veterans no no that was the selling point because it was
like if we had this jingle it was like one night one day Saturday's all right
how did you know that this place was on the up-and-up they have an amusement
park yeah but I I'd worked at the mall I could go do my limited where leather
limited what is that that sounds horny it was it that sounds haram to me no it
was it was a leather I was a leather jacket store Oh leather jackets and bags
and purses nice you got a employee discount so I did and I bought my dad
like a lot of leather stuff a full leather jackets with the fur the winter
leather jacket yeah and I got him like a suitcase yeah he's proud of you my dad
passed away he was very he was he proud of you yeah he was he proud of you yes
yes he was very good I like I like the section of your book where he said that
it's political science is a student was my grandpa was that your grandpa yeah so I
my grandfather was like politics is something you do it is not something you
study he's right it's stupid I studied it too what what a waste yeah I agree I
don't think I would like what am I doing with one of my kids actually study
poli-science you know it's moronic yeah just do it just do it I have some
beakers and bunsen the science is in the act in the action of doing politics yeah
but I eventually graduated from a school called the NDSU yeah and Fargo North the
code yeah Carson Wentz Carson Wentz oh yeah whatever great football team but
were you there with Carson Wentz you know I mean you yeah you know I wasn't
hanging out with football no you're with the nutrition club yeah I also had two
young kids to take care of yeah I don't really do much hanging out in college
because I was a young mom so you would bring your kids yeah I was in a lot of
clubs and would bring them with me take them to the club you know like student
Clubs.
You would go to the club with your kids.
She is out of control.
Wait till Tucker gets the word.
Someone said something to me.
I spoke to people that know you.
Okay.
And someone said something to me that's stuck with me.
Okay.
Granted, I did this five months ago.
Where are you guys finding these people that know me?
Who?
Where are you people finding these people who know me?
My APAC guys got me a couple contacts.
I don't think those people know me.
Someone that knows you has said to me that every day for you is lived truly,
not in like a self-help book way, but truly like it could be your last.
And that's stuck with me.
Who's this person?
I mean, I think we should.
I don't know.
That's such a great, you know, I think we should all live every day as if, you know,
it might be our last day.
Just enjoy it.
But not all of our interns have to go to therapy because they're picking up the phone all day.
Yeah.
I don't go to therapy.
I don't know.
No, your interns.
I don't think so.
You got to send them to therapy.
I'll tell you that.
No, I mean, I have staff that have been majority of my staff.
My staff has been with me since I'd gotten to Congress.
You're such an immigrant mom.
And therapy is your, your anti-therapy.
I am not.
But what I am saying, what I am saying is that I have people who, who, who naturally
are like, this is crazy and I'm not going to let it like, I'm not going to internalize
any of this stuff.
And we mainly feel bad for the crazy people who call into our office and spend,
spend that much time thinking about us.
So, you know, I don't, I, I like to believe just like me, everyone in my office is just
like, these people are crazy.
Like, I don't, I don't think they take it home with them.
Because if they did, I think a lot of them would have like left the office and we rarely
have people who quit.
I think it's, if you'll allow me, I think it's just really great to see an example.
It's a shitty time.
Of one person who, despite all this, is just like, fuck you, I have every right to be here
as much as you do.
And I don't think that, I mean, I think it's a testament, it's a testament to your resilience.
And I, I, I genuinely, me going through that, Adam Friedland is, we should, I want to send
him to Guantanamo.
What the hell?
What would you have?
What would you have?
What would you have done if the, if the president every day was being like.
I would have laughed at all his jokes.
Okay, there you go.
Yeah, that's what you do when you have a boss that's a, that's an asshole, but, but not
very smart.
You say, that, that was hilarious, sir.
Yeah, I would have gotten away with doing no work for 40 years.
Yeah.
At, at the government.
But, I mean, if he was saying the stuff he says, like, about me, about you.
I would have, I don't know.
It wouldn't just be like, okay, this man is crazy.
No, I, I, I think.
I think it's really important for someone to say, I have every right to be here.
Yeah.
You know, that's the.
What's he going to do?
He's going to drive these, these nutsos nuts, you know.
Yeah.
Someone called me after Kirk.
Yeah.
And they said, well, do you have security?
I'm like, what does this have to do with me?
Me?
For Charlie?
If someone did that for Charlie, they got, I was the, me?
Yeah.
Do you do one of those, like, come debate?
Meetings?
No.
I don't want to talk to kids.
They're terrible.
What is he?
Yell, he yells at, he yelled at babies the best.
We'll cut that.
I really appreciate your time.
I've been really excited about this one.
Likewise.
Did you have fun?
I did.
Okay.
We're going to do another cooking demonstration.
And the tea turned out great.
If I, if I say so myself.
Okay.
Well, you were complaining about the cloves.
They turned out okay.
It's a little tangy because we didn't get to crush them.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
You can't win with her.
Guys, Ilhan Omar, everyone.
It's been a pleasure.
I hope you enjoyed it.
I did.
Yeah.
Better than Hassan?
Is there a competition?
Yes.
Oh, shut up, Justin.
It's okay.
We'll see you next week.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Ilhan Omar, a Somali-American Congresswoman, grew up in a war-torn Somalia, fled to Kenya as a child, and eventually settled in Minnesota after moving with her family.
She faced intense political harassment, death threats, and targeted attacks, including from Republican candidates and former President Trump, who called for her expulsion.
Omar’s journey includes overcoming trauma, displacement, and cultural adjustment, which have shaped her resilience and unflinching presence in Congress.
Her story highlights the xenophobic and Islamophobic rhetoric directed at immigrants and minorities, especially those visibly Muslim or from marginalized backgrounds.
Despite the hostility, Omar remains grounded, unafraid, and committed to representing her community with authenticity and strength.
The episode emphasizes how systemic issues—such as mass deportations, ICE raids, and the misuse of legal processes—impact immigrant and minority communities.
Omar shares personal anecdotes about her upbringing, family, and early life in America, illustrating the challenges and triumphs of immigrant assimilation.
The conversation underscores the importance of recognizing the real lived experiences of refugees and immigrants, beyond stereotypes or political targeting.
Summary:
S. S. As a first-generation Somali immigrant and one of the first Muslim women of Somali heritage in Congress, she has faced relentless political hostility, including death threats, conspiracy theories, and xenophobic attacks.
Despite this, Omar remains resolute, drawing strength from her experiences of survival and resilience. The episode highlights how her background and identity make her a focal point for xenophobic narratives, while also emphasizing her personal and familial roots—such as her upbringing with aunts and uncles, her father's love for her, and her early struggles with language and cultural assimilation. A key theme is the systemic danger faced by immigrants and minorities, especially during federal crackdowns like Operation Metro Search, where thousands of legally residing Somalis were targeted despite overwhelming evidence of their legal status.
The narrative also touches on broader social issues, such as the trauma of displacement, the erosion of trust in institutions, and the need for empathy and understanding. Omar’s strength and authenticity challenge the perception of her as a political "boogeyman," instead framing her as a symbol of endurance and hope. The episode concludes by reflecting on how her personal history informs her advocacy, and how her presence in Congress serves as a vital counter-narrative to hate and misinformation.
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Ilhan Omar was born in Somalia and escaped a civil war at age eight, eventually moving to Kenya before relocating to the U.S. at age 12. Her experiences of displacement and survival shaped her resilience and informed her advocacy for immigrants and refugees in America.
Ilhan Omar has faced intense harassment, death threats, and political attacks, including calls for her assassination and repeated targeting by Republican figures. She has also experienced targeted security measures and public hostility due to her identity as a Muslim, Somali immigrant, and woman of color.
Ilhan Omar says she felt like she became 'American' around ages 13 to 14 when she could communicate, navigate life, and feel like one of her peers. Her journey involved learning English through TV shows, cultural adaptation, and overcoming trauma from war and displacement.
Ilhan Omar attributes her strength and composure to surviving war, displacement, and trauma. She believes these experiences have given her a unique perspective and resilience, allowing her to remain unafraid of political attacks and stand firmly in her beliefs.
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