Reneé Rapp: Sex Lives of College Girls

(swoosh) (upbeat music) - What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy daddy. - Renee rap, welcome to call her daddy. - Thanks, Ann. - I am so happy to have you here every fucking other DM on Instagram is like, please have Renee on, please have Renee on. I'm like, I know I wanna have her on, everyone come down and it's gonna fucking happen. So I'm so happy that we're giving the people what they want today. - I always. - Let's update the people and how you're feeling. You're a little on over. - Yeah. - What did you do last night? - Well, I went, so there was a Spotify party last night 'cause it's Grammy and Lee. - I was supposed to go to that. - Well, good thing you're seeing me today, not last night. 'Cause sometimes, most of the time, when I get drunk or sober, we like, me and my friends always like getting fights and stuff. Not with each other with other people. - Oh, okay. - Not to self, don't run into Renee when I'm drunk. - No, genuinely don't actually. 'Cause also it's not a good representation of who I am. So you are like the moment right now. I feel like everyone is fucking talking about you. You're everywhere. I was just telling you before, I'm scrolling on TikTok and every other fucking scroll is you. And I told you, I'm like, thank fucking God it's you though, because I actually like you. When you have that one person on your algorithm, you're like, get the fuck off my page. - Right, you're like, please leave me alone. - But actually, how does it feel to be where you're at in your career right now? - I feel like it feels like equal parts exciting and equal parts scary. And also like the biggest part of it is like, I just like, I talked so much shit my whole life about doing this. So like, thank fucking God, I'm finally doing it. 'Cause I think like it would have been like really embarrassing if it didn't work out. - You're saying like you would tell everyone, like, oh, I'm gonna fucking make it. I'm gonna be a singer or an actress or. - I literally like, when I was in fifth grade, I told my parents, I was like, I'm not going to college. I'm gonna be Beyonce. - Where did you get that confidence, do you think? - I have no idea. It's like delusion, it's all delusion. I genuinely don't fucking know. - You just like always knew you were meant to be a performer and you loved it. - 100%. I always only ever wanted to do music. Like that was just like it. I was just like, I was like writing songs before I could like, talk. Like there's like videos of me like naked was the child. Not, not, not. There's like videos of me like, nah. - You're not creepily, but like as like a child, like in like a diaper with like a harmonica, like making like what would be like a song and shit like that and then like writing things. (upbeat music) - Okay, so you grew up in Charlotte. - Yeah. - Which when I was like getting prepared for this interview, I was like, why did I think you're like a city girl? Like you come off as like born and raised in New York and then you do give like, oh my God. - I don't know, maybe you just like give that energy and so on. - Thank you. - While you're from the south. - I lie a lot and say that I'm from Charlotte. I'm like technically from outside of Charlotte in like a town called Huntersville, which is just like, Hick. - What was your high school experience like? - High school was wild for me 'cause my first two years in high school, I went to like a normal high school. And then I transferred to an art school because it's a very like long-winded thing, but being that I wanted to be Beyonce and I didn't want to go to college. - Y'all like that. - Yeah, I had to and my parents were like, my dad was like kicking me out of the house. He was like, what the fuck are you doing? You don't think you're gonna go to college? I was like, bet that. I'm gonna show you. And so high school is weird because I was in a regular high school for the first two years and I absolutely hated myself. And it just sucked. - Why did you hate yourself? - I like, I was such an overly emotional kid always and I still am like a very like hyper-emotional person. And I just like, I think like I come off very hard, at least I thought I used to and I am so sensitive. And so I think like the like duality of me like coming across kind of hard and like confident and like cool and like very chill. And then like actually like everything fucking hurting me like beyond belief was nauseating. And I also had horrible friends, like horrible friends. And I had really horrible friends when I was a kid. And so it was just like years of like me like despising who I was emotionally. My friends and my friends' mothers despising who I was period and of that sense. And it was just crazy. But then when I switched to the arts high school, I kind of started just like doing my own thing and I mean it was still actually like trash. And like the friends' moms hating me like got like 10 times worse. We why are these moms hating you? Yeah, let me fucking tell you. So the theater mommies didn't like me. They did not fuck with me. They created a group chat about me. I was told through my friends that there was this group chat that was basically them like shooting on the like high school musical casting process and shooting on the fact that I had done it and whatever. And I was like, okay, so grown people are also stupid. 'Cause I was like you're 40 plus year old women hating on a teenager for your kids' sake, that's embarrassing. I can actually relate a lot to you saying like you almost have this like really heart exterior but inside you're super sensitive. But I'm assuming you're like in those situations like high school, it can be off putting to some kids of like why is she so cocky and confident in all this? Where it's like I'm having to at times fake it. So I believe in myself. Absolutely. But it can be off putting to other people. 100%. So socially, you're like I'm just trying to fucking be Beyonce over here. Okay, and trying to get out of Charlotte. Thank you for seeing me. Yes. But I get where like in those like high school environments, it can be like very like well she's the fucking bitch or she's this and she's that when it's really like, well why do you think Renee is acting this like way? Like maybe she's feeling whatever it was. Totally. Well, and also like to be clear, like I don't think it absolves me from ever being a bitch. Cause like I can remember thousands of times in like school growing up that I was a total bitch. Yeah, completely, which I think like, and maybe not everybody feels this way, maybe I really am just a bitch. But like I like can remember like so many things for my childhood that I'm like holy shit, I cannot believe it fucking did that. Or oh my god, I can't believe I said that. If you had to try to get underneath it, like why do you think you have that like anger in you? Have anger issues of a mood disorder? Like I just like I have like my different little like mental health things. Yeah. But I think like now I understand it so much better. Because I just am so emotional. Yeah, I'm just really, really, really super sensitive. When you said like you would lie about being from Charlotte, why would you lie about that? I like presented like being from like the like south so much. And also like where I grew up in Charlotte or to hello, where I grew up in Huntersville. He's like super like ass backwards and like very conservative. At least it was when I was a kid. And so like I just felt like very, I was like I just really do not fit here. I was like I do not fit here. Like I felt like everybody was like super like fucked and like homophobic and like just like not fun and great. And it was just it's just like sucked. Which I feel like then like again makes sense of like that recipe for like you pushing against the brain of what everyone else was doing. Feeling like you weren't meant to be there career wise and also with your sexuality being from the south and having like you're saying everyone being like homophobic. When did you start to like explore your sexuality? When I was 14 I like was doing a musical. And this girl who was the lead of the musical like just looked super like I don't know. She was just like different. Like she just she had like red like spiky hair. And like she never wore a bra. And like that was so nice to me. That was nice. I was like that's good. She's different, you know? 'Cause like growing up in fucking Huntersville. Like it was just like I was like damn. But yeah, she was just like so cute to me. And she was much older than me. And she carried herself with just like the most like amazing demeanor ever of like I felt like she was just like super like fuck it, like whatever. And I was just like obsessed with her. And I figured out on day I went home because I genuinely and this is like, I don't know if this is a bad thing or if it's not. But honestly I was just like so intrigued by her. And like she never wore a bra which was amazing. But I was like I cannot stop looking at this girl's boobs. Like that was the moment that I was like, oh. - Okay. - And I went home and I started full blown crying had a meltdown. I was like oh my god, I'm gay. I was like damn it. I was like that's crazy. Because like I had never heard anything surrounding that in a positive light. Because the one like queer person that I knew in my life is a family member of mine who I really looked up to who got absolutely shitted on by everybody in our family. And so all I ever heard was like, oh like and she was bisexual at the time. They were like, oh well she needs to pick a side. And like, oh well she's, you know, she just, she's whatever, whatever. You shouldn't be around her kind of thing. Like you never know who's gonna like make you gay. Genuinely. And so I had a full blown panic attack and I was laying in my bed and I was screaming crying which is hilarious in hindsight. 'Cause like imagine like 14 year old me like screaming crying, I'm gay. Ah, you know, I was like, oh my god. And also I was like, well got to pick a side. Have to be a lesbian. So I decided that I would call my friend at the time. And I was like, hey, I just wanna let you know. I'm gay, I'm a lesbian. And she was like, oh, okay, cool. And I was like, yeah, and I'm like fighting through tears. But I was like, I just like hated everything about that as a kid. And so she was like, okay, so do you think you like don't, like boys at all? And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, I still do, I still do. But I'm a lesbian though. I'm a lesbian. And she was like, I don't know about that. And I was like, nah man, like, gotta be one. Gotta pick a side, gotta do it. So I was like, I'm a lesbian. And she was like, I think you're bisexual. I was like, you're kidding. And that was so intriguing to me. And then, yeah. That's so interesting too, because I bet so many people watching and listening are like, oh my God, I had such a similar experience. Like, this was my sexual awakening. And then all of a sudden, I remember being in my room and like trying to figure out how I'm gonna handle this because the people around me in my life do not at all, like accept anything other than a heterosexual relationship. Totally. How did you tell your parents? And how did they react? So, I think like for a really long time, I thought that I'd just like never like officially had like a coming out thing because I would always say, I was like, I just like never really came out 'cause I just felt so incredibly accepted and like fine. And I actually think now, after like doing like so much work in therapy and also just like growing up and living, you know, away from home and whatever, I was just like laughed at every time I tried to come out. I was just laughed at. So then I like never really talked about it. And I had always just said, I was like, I just was one of those people that never felt like they really had to come out. And to be honest, I feel like my genuine like coming out to my family, close and extended, has been doing college girls. Because now that part of me is like on display in a very palatable way, which I think is also like kind of fucked up in a way that I'm like, yeah, like now I'm like on a TV show and I'm like very publicly like out and accepted as a bisexual woman. And on the show like as a gay woman and a lesbian woman, now like it's like really cool for everybody and everybody's like, yeah, oh my god, amazing. I did not have that same support as a kid. And so I resent it in a lot of ways. It's still really, really hard because I never like fully will believe that somebody who like treated me like that as a kid is now really accepting of it. I'm like, you just like it now 'cause it's like comfortable for you. And it's like something exciting that you can like romanticize around my life. Now if you have like a little bit of hindsight, like how do you think that affected how you like viewed yourself worth? Like like horribly, horribly. Like the first year doing college girls was terrible, it was terrible. Yeah, it sucked so bad. Because at the time I was in a heteronormative relationship and I like hated going to work because I was like, I don't think I'm like good enough to be here. I don't think like I can be here. I don't think I can be doing this. And I was like, maybe I'm just like trying too hard and then I would like come home and I would psych myself out literally. And I will never forget like I like sat on my like front porch and I called one of my friends and I was like I am straight. I was like, I think I'm just straight. I can't do this, I can't do this. And they were like, what the fuck is going on with you? And I was like, I don't know, I don't know, but I can't. And I was just like in a panic constantly. And I wasn't, but I was so freaked out by the idea of like my sexuality not being like finite or people laughing at me or like me laughing at myself. And then I hated the first year of filming. How did you decide to take on a character that plays a lesbian? I was just so, thanks, I thought that was the cutest thing ever. I was just so excited when I got the audition too because like I felt like that was again, like part of me that I had only like my friends really like knew about like I was then like a lot more comfortable with it as I got older. But like I remember like getting the audition breakdown being so excited because I'd also never been like submitted to audition for like a queer character. And I was like, I was like, it was so exciting. And so then like doing the job being such a mind-fuck was like so scary. Because also like, you know, I'm like on a show that like, there are a lot of men around. There are a lot of men around. There are a lot of gay men around. There are a lot of straight men around. There are a lot of older men around me on set, right? So I'm going through set doing these scenes. And I'm also having gay men come up to me and be like, so like are you like really gay? Like you just play and I was like, ugh. And I know that sounds like such a little like fru fru thing. And I also understand there's like an immense level of like difference when it comes to like people who are bisexual, specifically also like I'm a cis white woman who is bisexual, right? Like that's also loaded in and of itself. And I understand that. It's still really like fucking pissed me off. And it made me just like second guess everything about myself. And so I felt like I was to no one else's real fault except for like my like formative childhood years and myself, I was beating myself up so much. It's like a mind-fuck for you probably to be playing a character that's struggling coming out while you're also still struggling with your sexuality. And then people are like, wait are you actually fucking gay? And you're like so crazy. Wow, it was so crazy. And I also just like the biggest part of it was like, I really like I wanted so badly to do a good job. Like not even really as an actor. Like yeah, that was like a part of it. But I was just like whatever. I was like if I'm not good at acting, they'll just fire me and that'll be easier. But like I wanted to play the role in a way that like if I saw it as a kid, it would like feel good to me. And so I also like wanted to do a good job so bad that I was just like so nervous all the time. And yeah, it was like so much the first season. What is your relationship now with your parents? It's like great now I think. Like I think it's wild 'cause like I just turned 23. So I'm even like discovering like so much about my relationship with my family now. My dad is my best friend in the whole wide world. And it's so interesting 'cause we like would go at it growing up. Like go at it. And like I was a fucking madhouse as a kid. Like I was a monster. And also I was told that I was like to be clear. Like my family extended family friends like referred to me as like a ticking time bomb. Like that doesn't feel great as a kid. It really doesn't. And also to be like the like girl child in the family and to be like told like you're constantly so dramatic and so emotional and to actually under the surface of all of that like have a massive anxiety disorder was really crazy. But I say I like to say I'm very close to my parents now and getting out of the house like changed a lot of it because when I did the whole like theater thing, right? Like go to the art school try to win this, try to win this and then try to get a job working in New York and then very luckily like did, that's not wood but okay. And I'm like woo, I started working in mean girls on Broadway and I was really really sick. Had a horrible eating disorder. And I was laying in my bed in New York and I remember face timing my parents and I was like I cannot go to work. I was like I can't, I can't do it. Like I can't go to that place. Like I physically cannot be there. This is scaring the shit out of me. Like I can't do that. I can't put on those costumes, not after everything that's happened, not after changing my costumes, not after this whole thing. Like that was not my decision. I can't be there. I'm a kid, I'm a fucking kid. My parents changed their attitude from you're so dramatic to oh holy shit. Like there are things that are happening to you publicly and you don't have control over them. We are flying to New York and we're gonna come and get you. Wow. Yeah, I was gonna say like to everyone that doesn't know the full like the timeline of your career is like after high school you moved to New York City and you get the role as Regina George in Broadway. Yeah. Did you get an eating disorder while on Broadway? I had an eating disorder starting, I'd like now know, when I was 10, it started. I was like I danced competitively my whole life and it was really like a mind fuck on me. And it was just bad. And then it like changed when I got into mean girls 'cause it went from like a binge eating disorder to like I'm not eating at all. And it was really tough. When you said they like changed your costumes, like what do you mean? My costumes were changed and it was not my decision. Like change is in like sizing or like the actual outfit in my outfit that I was wearing. So I was in the show and I was just like more curvy than like the other girl who had done it and the other girls who had been in the role. And I was like there was a there was an outfit in the beginning or no, it's somewhere like through the thing. That was like a corset, it's like a Halloween thing. It was like a corset and like fishnets and like no pants, obviously 'cause it's like a corset and it's like a little. So I'm already wildly insecure and like super uncomfortable. And then certain people came to see the show who I don't know or work with anymore. And then like all of a sudden I like got a call from somebody who worked on the show that was like hey, by the way I just wanna let you know, we're sending you into these fittings and we're just gonna like change some costumes. I'm really sorry and I was like really sorry. I was like what do you mean? And they're like yeah, I know it's just like you know, if it's nothing that makes you comfortable then like totally just like tell us and like we can just like go back to the old ones but like we're gonna send you into this fitting. And so I was really confused. And so I remember calling my mom and being like why did I just get called? Like I'm going into another fitting. I was like this is kind of weird. And she was like no I think it's fine. And I was like okay, so I'd go into the fitting and I saw that like they were putting like a skirt over my corset and stuff. And I knew when I got in there I was like, oh I know what this is for. I was like I know exactly what this is. And because I could tell by the demeanor of the costume and the people there were like we're so sorry. And I was like I was like 19 years old and I was like oh fuck mind you at the time. I'm already in the show and getting like horrific messages from people online that's like we didn't even want to be at the show because we saw that you're like ass was hanging out and duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. Mind you, I'm like then I'm going into interviews as a teenager and like the constant like thing that everyone is asking me is like how does it feel being like a curvy woman playing a role and did it? I'm like a I'm a teenager, b, this is also wildly loaded conversation because now you're going to say that I am a bigger person then you're also in a weird way taking up space for people who are actually like bigger bodied than mine that should actually have the nature for that conversation in the space. But it was just like a very fucked up sort of time in my life. So they changed my costumes and I went in to go do my like put in rehearsal for the show and I was the only one in the costume and I like turned around and the whole cast who was amazing. Like everybody like turned around and looked at me and I could see immediately on everybody's face that everybody in that fucking building had known what happened and I wanted to die because they're like oh holy shit. And I was like mortified. How the fuck did you get through that moment? To be honest everybody around me lied to me and said that it wasn't a problem and it was a thing where they just wanted to highlight my body. So it was like also nauseating but also like the weird thing was I, and not weird but I didn't talk to anybody about it because I know where this whole thing came from and it did not come from like Tina or Lauren or anybody who I love who works on that show and who I'm about to work with again. Like it came from nobody who I respected and loved and so it was really difficult because I was also then like really battling like being very sick and having to pull out of the show all the time because I wasn't eating and all during the day so I would get on stage and I would like be like shaking and like about to pass out and people would be like oh she's having an anxiety attack. Let's pull her out for the show. Mind you I haven't eaten in like 24 hours. It was horrible. So yeah I mean like I remember like people who were close to me in my life were just like I think it's just like a thing where they want to like you know highlight your curves and I was like you think I was like I'm pretty sure that like a grown-ass man just like told me that like I'm not a size to be wearing this on a stage but yeah. - Right you're like I'm not a fucking idiot. Don't insult me. - You're already insulting me. - No I don't don't think. - When you were living in New York during that time like did you have friends in New York? Like what was your social life like? - Yeah I had friends. I had friends but my life like really just revolved around work and just really revolved around like being really sick like sadly like I just would wake up and like try to not eat all day and then go to work and then like drink and go home. At what point did you start to feel like you were recovering or like getting closer to accepting your body and like eating healthier? Like four months ago and also like never. It's a really like it's a really like tough like loaded sort of conversation. Because it changed a lot because I would think that I was getting better but actually I would be getting worse. But in my brain I was like and this is such a fucked up way of thinking but my brain was going oh you're able to eat less. Oh you must be like doing better because I associated that with good so it was really really hard. Yeah so I feel like a couple months ago but then again like also like never. - How does it because I'm assuming like it does it negatively affect you that like you have to watch yourself on screen and like watch yourself like in videos or like is that okay like does that trigger you? - I think so. I think it negatively affects me. I think what more so negatively affects me are comments, not comments online. Like comments I receive are on set, those comments I don't like. And I don't mean that these are like malicious people coming for me. I mean that these are things that I've actually probably said to people in the last five years that I can't believe I've actually said that. Like I had somebody say to me that like this really like send me into a fucking spiral. Again they were not trying to be malicious but I was like I was like hey can I please get out of this costume like I don't feel like I can do my best work in this. Can I just like have some pants or something? I'm really afraid today. And I had already been super transparent about like, I was like hey I love you, I respect you so much. I'm really struggling so if I ever need to change something please know it has nothing to do with your work and it's everything internally for me. I just want to be really transparent about that 'cause it'd be unfair if I didn't. And they're just be like oh my God, but that like looks so slimming on you. And that like makes you look so slim. And I'd be on side and I'd be like oh my God. And I know that they were not trying to be malicious which is the hard part, right? 'Cause I'm like I in this moment would love to literally slap the shit out of you. But I understand where you're coming from because I guarantee I've said that to someone before. Right, you're just like can you, everyone stop fixating on my body? Because I do it enough myself. Yes. So please shut the fuck up. Yes. With regard to your music career, a lot of your music is about heartbreak, falling in love, getting hurt, what is like the biggest heartbreak you've ever experienced? The biggest heartbreak that I've ever experienced is I was like, I was in a relationship and I was like very much in love with someone. And I was really invested and I was really also invested in myself and that made someone in their family very uncomfortable that I was super into my career and that I didn't think my career should make anybody feel bad. And so the fucked up part is I started hiding my successes from my partner and their family because I knew that if they found out, they were not gonna be happy with me and they were gonna be like, what'd she get? I've literally gotten that comment. Wow. And so that was the biggest heartbreak because I was like, damn, like I really made myself that much smaller for that long of a time to make a man comfortable. I was like, am I the antithesis of everything that I would teach my daughter or my child? I was like, holy shit, it was crazy. It's so crazy 'cause I relate to that so heavily and I think we're two pretty strong women sitting here and when you're, I can relate to that, like when you're in it and when you're trying to be successful. Like you have to fullheartedly believe in yourself. Like we said, even if it's delusional. And when you're in a relationship with someone that's trying to make you feel less center, make you feel shame for the good shit you're doing, you either hide it or you essentially kind of pull back on your career to try to make this person happy. But it's like, what the fuck am I doing? I had the same exact situation where I was like, I couldn't talk to him about the good things that was happening because it was like, he's threatened, he's jealous, he's insecure. And then you don't almost, you feel it but you're trying to hold onto it and like micromanage, like how can I make this fit? - A hundred percent. - And then when you're out, you're like, what the fuck was I doing? - Well, and then the second I was out, like my entire life changed. Like the first, 'cause also like mind you, this breakup, I like, was I hurt absolutely, but like this happened like in the weirdest way. And so like I literally laughed, like genuinely, like, I remember they're like, and they're like, yeah, I just like, I just don't know. And I literally went, I went, I was like, okay. And I hung up the phone, and I called my manager. I was like, I just want you to know, this is gonna be the greatest mother fucking year of my life. And he was like, what just happened? I was like, oh, I just, you know, we broke up. But I was like, I feel it, like in my fingers, I don't know how to explain this, but like my entire life, it now makes sense to me. And my manager Adam was like, are you, are you good? And I was like, honestly, no. I was like, I'm actually not okay at all, but I've never felt better to be myself in my life. And it actually was like very real of like, the second that I did not have to make someone comfortable and like stay at whatever level of success or not even success, like at whatever level of like, hard working, whatever, like woman, like felt like to them and felt like to their family. My entire fucking career changed. And that's why this last year has been insane. - Wow. - 'Cause I was like, I'm gonna do what I've always wanted to do and what I did not allow myself to do around you and what you did not allow me to do around you. And what your father didn't allow me to do around you. And I will do it incredibly well. And I will look hot as fuck and you will exist somewhere. Misogyny is a motherfucker because even, it's so, what is such a mind fuck is I'm so incredibly like, oh my God, I would go through that entire experience 10 times over again and that heartbreak 10 times over again and that abandonment 20 times over again to be where I am right now. I don't give up. Oh, look, are you kidding me? I was like, if you told me go through that again and then you will be a egot. Hello, I'm going through it twice with two different people at the same time. Break up with me, leave me, let's do it, run it up. Let's do it again. But Misogyny is such a mind fuck in and of the fact that I can say that right now, yet I still somewhere in the back of my mind can be like, are you like stepping out of wine? Like even as I'm saying that, which is crazy. (upbeat music) Do some of your exes know that certain songs are about them? I, to be honest, I think I have the kind of exes that I think they probably think every song is about them and I'm like, girl, actually nothing is about you. Funny enough. I think you're not even on the album. You're not even a thought in the project. I just feel like I have that kind. Maybe I don't. Do you ever worry though, like fuck maybe I shouldn't put that in 'cause they could think it's about them? So yes, I've started to get out of it recently though. Like I think like, obviously like internet culture, right? Accessibility is through the roof and is crazy and is amazing in a lot of ways. But I always just try to think like, would Beyonce have taken it out if it came out in 2002? And like the answer is like, Beyonce, just on those colors would not have. So no, I'm not going to. Exactly, Becky with the good hair. I've only learned from her. Are you single now? I am very happy and I am seeing somebody that makes me like really happy and I feel like very appreciated and I don't feel like I've been made to feel small or like I need to make myself smaller to make them comfortable. Dude, that's great. I'm happy for you. Do you have a type? Yeah, so like I've dated so many people in the same fucking font. Like if you went through like the roster for 2021, like let me fucking tell you, the people, the boys, the girls, like they all absolutely were from the same mother and father. Like it is crazy, they're all siblings. And they, like I could, I will show you like where, where is my phone? I need my phone. I need this. Okay, so what's up? They're all from the same mother and father. I love you. This is one person, which also this is for us, okay? This is one person. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but this is one person, right? We add his new girl looks like you. Hello, okay, and then this one looks like him. Looks like him. And then their brother's basically what they love. But then currently, well, currently, I also looks like them. I fucking knew something was happening. The minute you walked in the fucking door, I was like, are you fucking friends or are you fucking? What is happening? And I didn't want to say something. No, no, no, no. I appreciate that. Oh my god. I appreciate that. This makes sense. Yeah, yeah, no, everybody, everybody looks alike. There was like, but I did, but I did have like, I did have a phase also where I was only dating blonde women. Like you and I absolutely would have kissed like 100%. We cause that's like your character on sex lives. Yes, we still can. We can. It's a whole thing. The internet's like do it. You do it. No, but yeah, partners like in the fucking group. You do it. No, but yeah, but it's like I did have a phase where it was all people. Why do you think that? I'm, I'm subliminally a method actor. I never thought I would be one of those girls, but I really have anything she's going through. I'm going through. I didn't have chlamydia, but oh, rip. How has been managing fame and like friendships and relationships? Like how are you doing with it? The coolest thing is that like I, we just felt so embarrassed. We're being so sensitive and so emotional as a kid. And now that is literally my job is to talk about how emotional and sensitive I am. And though that is sometimes scary and I still get in my head about it, believe it or fucking not, I now have like a community of people around me that actually like celebrate that part of me, which is very different from how I was viewed as a kid because I was always made fun of or called a taking time bomb for that. And so in a weird way, fame has helped me. I guess it's what a fucking LA sentence of me to say, but it is true. Like it really, it really has. And I feel very like supported and I also feel very like OK. Is it weird though? Like how much attention you're getting do you, is it not face you at all? I've always loved to make shit about myself. So like I'm actually cool with it. So a family member of mine would die. And that was like a performance opportunity for me. I couldn't sing at the funeral. And I did. I was seven and I sang Amazing Grace. Going into the ground. Amazing Grace. Yeah. Macy Reston piece. Do you ever get nervous that people are going to group you into the character that you play on sex lives and not focus on who you are individually from that character? I lie awake at night. I lie awake and I worried about this before I even existed. I think about the shit all the time. Like I actually, so like for me and girls, like Broadway mean girls, my movie mean girls, I almost did not take that job. Like I said no to that job a couple times because I was so scared. I was like, I don't want to be an actor. I also just to be like super glad was like, I'm not a good actor at the time. I was like, I'm a terrible actor. Like I'm good at like singing. But yeah, I'm always scared of that. I think about it constantly. Every conversation that I have is surrounding like does this put me in too much of this way because I have to be seen as this. Because when I'm not seen as this and I'm not seen as a musician, I have a fucking panic attack. How are you different than your character latent on sex lives of college girls? So personally, like I think I have pretty sick style. I think latent has terrible style. Somebody said that, what was it? Oh, somebody one time said to me an interview and I've never been so moved by a comment ever. They were like, latent looks like if Nancy Reagan was a lesbian. And I was like, bro, I was like, that is the most accurate shit I've ever heard. 'Cause by the way, let me be so clear. That would not be a good thing. So we're very different in that way. I fucking hope. Yeah, if you ever see me wearing something that you think would be in her closet, come and punch me square. There's a lot of like blazers and like, turtlenecks? A mock, if that. A mock neck. A mock neck, if that. And not in a hot way. Yeah, it's just not my personal style. It's just not my personal style. Which also I've heard time and time again. Okay Renee, but you're an actor on a show. Like that's kind of the whole point is like playing another character. I'm like, yeah, this is why I was not supposed to be an actor. Right. I'm like, this isn't, I was not supposed to do this. Do you, do you, do you enjoy the show though? Yeah, yeah. I enjoy acting. I enjoy playing Layton. I enjoy like having that. I enjoy like getting to be with Alia, who is my best friend on set every single day. Like imagine like you have to, you have to go to work and you're on set for as many as like 18 hours and you have to be with your best friend. And so if anything goes wrong, your best friend is there with you because you're in the same situation. That is a godsend. That is fucking great. I do have to wear those tweed sets though. Okay, I love the show, but I fucking love your music. Thanks, dude. Congrats on the release of your new album, Everything to Everyone, Deluxe Edition, which is out now, everybody go listen. What is your favorite song on the album and why? My favorite song is in the kitchen. Me too. Yeah, thanks, yeah. So I started this song in February of 2021 and I was in my house and I was just like at my piano and I started just like playing and I was like basically I was just like getting told a lot that like I wasn't writing deep enough and I'm sure you've seen I'm quite feisty. So I was like, yeah, so let me fucking go there then. Like you want it here. Another one of my favorite songs is too well. Thanks. And I was just wondering, yeah, are you down to perform today? I would be incredibly happy to perform today. Let's do it. I'm going to listen to the record at first. I'm ever playing this song today. Yeah. I'll tell me when I am allowed to begin speaking. You begin whenever you want to begin. Okay, hey, Daddy. So here's the thing. We'll do too well for you. Only for you. Yeah, well, it's too well. Let's run it up. Go, girl. ♪ Today I woke up in a good mood for once ♪ ♪ The first time in six months I don't hate you as much ♪ ♪ You weren't there, my dreams I could finally sleep ♪ ♪ It felt good but it sucks I don't hate you as much ♪ ♪ It's easy to hold on the grudge I'd rather be angry than crushed ♪ ♪ I'm doing too much ♪ ♪ I'm back when I started again crying and calling my friends ♪ ♪ This should never end ♪ ♪ I guess I was sick of myself ♪ ♪ Can't stop overthinking ♪ ♪ I heard you're happy somewhere ♪ ♪ But I don't forget too well ♪ ♪ I guess I was sick of myself ♪ ♪ Can't stop reminiscing ♪ ♪ I heard you're happy somewhere ♪ ♪ But I don't forget too well ♪ ♪ I still see your face ♪ ♪ I hate hearing your name ♪ ♪ What a red ♪ ♪ What a shame I'm replaying that day ♪ ♪ You called me, I ate two weeks on a break ♪ ♪ Just to ask for more space ♪ ♪ You're my biggest mistake ♪ ♪ It's easy to hold on the grudge ♪ ♪ I'd rather be angry than crushed ♪ ♪ I'm doing too much ♪ ♪ I'm back when I started again crying and calling my friends ♪ ♪ This should never end ♪ ♪ I guess I was sick of myself ♪ ♪ Can't stop overthinking ♪ ♪ I heard you're happy somewhere ♪ ♪ But I don't forget too well ♪ ♪ I guess I was sick of myself ♪ ♪ Can't stop reminiscing ♪ ♪ I heard you're happy somewhere ♪ ♪ But I don't forget too well ♪ ♪ I guess I was sick of myself ♪ ♪ Can't stop overthinking ♪ ♪ I heard you're happy somewhere ♪ ♪ But I'm with Alex Cooper on call her daddy ♪ ♪ And I don't give a fuck where the fuck you are, mother fucker ♪ ♪ Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm ♪ - Woo! (laughing) - This is amazing. - Yeah. - Okay. - Okay, fine. - Are we ready? - Right, I'm good. - Whenever you guys are ready. - Okay. - This is "Bruzza," I don't know if you even know why this song is written and I will reveal myself right now. - Please. - So "Bruzza" is obviously, I will do it, but it's a very sentimental song about feeling like all my friends make fun of me. The origin story of "Bruzza" they've, I'm sorry. The origin story of "Bruzza" is because I was seeing this girl, and I was staying in my friend Thomas's apartment in New York. And I basically said to Thomas, I was like, guess what I did, and he was like, what? And I was like, I, doctor on your couch, but I thought, you gotta understand that I didn't go to college. So I thought I was like, oh, this is gonna be like a bonding moment. Like, you know, if like your friends are like in college, like if my friend came to me and was like, I like had sex with this person on your couch, I'd be like, oh no, and like tell me how it went. It wasn't received that way, which I now get in hindsight, like that's super weird, but I just, I don't know. I was like, I hadn't seen a girl in a while either, and so I was just so excited. I was like, ah, I was like, this is so cute. And they didn't think that was like funny or cute. And I get that. I really do get it. And so I wrote "Bruzza". I wrote, I know, no, no, no. So they were making fun of me that night, and they were like, Renee apologized to Thomas. And I was like, you guys, what? I was like, apologize for what? And they were like, for having sex on his couch, and then saying it in like a confident manner. And I was like, you guys are so mean to me. And I was like, my friends just, they just make so much fun of me. And that's why I wrote "Bruzza". (gentle music) What was that? ♪ I spent 22 years on my life ♪ ♪ Trying not to freak out ♪ ♪ Trying not to be needing ♪ ♪ I go through six different loads at a time ♪ ♪ I'm happy than losing my mind ♪ ♪ Quick transition to crazy ♪ ♪ It's not fair, I've got acetone for things ♪ ♪ I'm so sensitive ♪ ♪ One touch and I feel pain ♪ ♪ All my friends make sweet fun of me ♪ ♪ I guess it's funny, but the truth's I bruise easily ♪ ♪ And sometimes I feel the joke metaphorically though ♪ ♪ You could flip me inside out and they would show ♪ ♪ Black, purple and green, yeah ♪ ♪ Brute easily ♪ ♪ I spent 365 days and 52 weeks in my brain ♪ ♪ Going over the same thing that got stubborn wins ♪ ♪ And fourth grade, I take everything personally ♪ ♪ I've always hated that about me ♪ ♪ I've tried to be cool and chill but it's not fair ♪ ♪ I've got acetone for things ♪ ♪ I'm so sensitive, just one touch and I feel pain ♪ ♪ All my friends make sweet fun of me ♪ ♪ I guess it's funny, but the truth's I bruise easily ♪ ♪ And sometimes I feel the joke metaphorically though ♪ ♪ You could flip me inside out and they would show ♪ ♪ Black, purple and green, yeah ♪ ♪ Brute easily ♪ ♪ I bruise, I bruise easily ♪ ♪ Black, purple and green, you have me all ♪ ♪ I bruise, I bruise easily ♪ ♪ Please don't fucking swing it ♪ ♪ My friends make sweet fun of me ♪ ♪ But the truth's I bruise easily ♪ ♪ And sometimes I feel the joke metaphorically though ♪ ♪ You could flip me inside out and they would show ♪ ♪ Black, purple and green, yeah ♪ ♪ I bruise easily ♪ (clapping) - Fuck, yay! Renee, what the fuck? - Thanks. - Dude, you are so fucking talented. I cannot thank you enough for coming on call her daddy. The world is gonna lose their shit, but I was the first one to lose my shit because it's an honor to have you on the show. - This is the most fun thing I've done in 25 years, and I'm 23. - Stop. - This is the best. - I love you, thank you. - Dude, thank you, I love you so much. Thank you, princess. - Thank you! (upbeat music)