This episode of *Crimes of Reddit* delves into the terrifying reality of stalking through a detailed Reddit thread involving a man’s ex, who violated a restraining order by attending his wedding as a plus-one. The original poster reveals that the ex had infiltrated the groom’s social circle through fake social media profiles and targeted friendships, showing a calculated, long-term obsession. The situation escalates when the ex becomes aggressive during the wedding, leading to an arrest and emotional distress for both the groom and his wife. The episode then expands to explore broader patterns of stalking, noting that female stalkers are particularly dangerous and often go undetected until they breach boundaries. A separate story features a victim who endured relentless phone calls, threats, and stalking for months, eventually resorting to carrying a gun for protection. The narrative emphasizes how stalking distorts reality, triggers severe paranoia, and often stems from deep-seated emotional insecurity. The hosts stress that while some stalking may be linked to mental health issues, others represent violent, unrelenting obsession that demands urgent intervention. The episode concludes by highlighting the scarcity of resources and support for stalking victims, urging listeners to share their experiences on the subreddit *crimesofpod* and to remain vigilant about digital and physical safety. It underscores that stalking is not just a crime of violence but a profound psychological and emotional trauma, often more damaging than the physical act itself.
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Stalking is such a terroristic crime that it makes me sad that these people had to turn to Reddit
because resources are so scant when it comes to crimes like this.
And no one stalk us.
Yeah, please don't.
I think that's. That's a good rule of thumb here.
Totally.
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I honestly can't wait, and I'm so excited.
Okay, the theme for this week is stalker stories.
Ooh.
Let's get into it.
Okay.
This is called, Am I the Asshole for Having My Ex Arrested at My Wedding?
This happened two days ago at my 28 male and my wife's 39 female wedding.
A lot of people are telling me I'm in the wrong for having my ex, who is a 27-year-old female,
arrested, and my wife is saying I ruined the wedding and caused a scene.
First, a little backstory on my ex. We were together over five years ago for a matter of
weeks. So, like, not really a full ex. Barely a relationship.
Gone on a couple dates situation. I broke things off because I wasn't that into her.
She began to pester me over text and social media all the time to get back together or just hook up.
This went on for months, and in a particularly weak moment, I gave in and I slept with her again.
At this point,
things got a lot worse. I tried to explain that it was a mistake, and I still didn't want anything
to do with her. From then on, the messages ranged from abusive to begging me for sex,
and eventually I just blocked her. She then started showing up at my house, my work,
and social spaces that I went to. She attempted to force herself on me and threaten violence,
and at that point, I got a restraining order. Since then, I haven't heard from her in years.
Could be the end of the story, right? Should be. I met my wife,
three years ago, and she's honestly the best thing in my life. We fell in love hard and have
a great relationship. We got engaged after two years, and two days ago, finally had our wedding.
The day was going amazingly well, until a friend of mine who I will call Chris
turned up with his plus one. His plus one? My ex.
Okay. Yep. I spoke to him,
and he had absolutely no idea about my history with her, and we tried to get her to leave.
She refused, so I decided just to ring the police. Two officers showed up to arrest her for breaking
her restraining order, and she flipped out. She was shouting and screaming, hurled abusive language
at my wife, and claimed that she and I were meant to be together, which obviously distracted from
our wedding. Now, my wife is upset with me for causing a scene, and a lot of our friends are
saying that I should have just ignored it and focused on the day because she wasn't causing
problems until the police showed up. So, am I the asshole?
Okay. There's a lot left unsaid in this, and we do get an update in a little bit that answers a lot
of questions. But yeah, what is your verdict? I see both sides here. I can see how if it was
extremely distracting for the groom, whose ex this was, it's his wedding too. You know,
he doesn't want to be distracted. That being said, what did everyone know? Did the date know
that she was going to the wedding of the person she was obsessed with? Did
Chris says he has no idea, the friend, she brought her.
Yeah. That's what we get the update on.
Okay. Yeah.
Because that matters.
It does matter.
Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like I have the context, so I would say not an asshole. But also,
like, if roles were reversed, if it was a woman and her stalker that you have a restraining order
against showed up, I feel like there'd be no question.
Yeah, that's true.
Right? I also understand out of context, it's a little murky.
I'm ready for the context. Bring it on.
Okay. Well, let's read some comments because people had thoughts,
based on the first, you know, Reddit comments.
Horrible, but also amazing.
Yes.
Okay. So, the first one was very much, like, in agreement with the original poster.
You had a restraining order for a reason. I believe she was very well aware of it and
knew what consequences could have been. She knew better than to be attending.
Who knows what plans she had in mind before she was taken away.
Knowing that she was there, you would not have enjoyed yourself if you let her stay.
And then, yeah, original poster said,
God knows her intentions, but everyone seems to think she was doing nothing wrong and was harmless.
And then people were, like, bashing the wife. But I'm like, ugh.
Which I won't read those because. Rude.
Yeah. No context.
Okay. The last comment I'll read is,
Definitely not the asshole. I don't understand why anyone would say that was wrong of you to do.
Clearly, your ex broke the restraining order. And that is true because if you're a plus one
to someone's wedding, you probably ask, okay, whose wedding is this? What are their names?
She knew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Women are also detectives. We don't just show up. They were like,
What's the dress code? Show me the invitation.
People don't go,
blind and do these things unless you're, like, extremely type B, which, rare.
Rare. Agreed.
It says,
Clearly, your ex broke the restraining order. Good on you for calling the police.
Who knows what she could have done? It's completely unfair for you or your wife
or whoever was at your wedding to be acting this way. If they knew you had a restraining
order and what she did to you, and it seems like your wife did, then it doesn't make any
sense for her to be acting this way. Perhaps you should talk to her.
Congrats on the wedding, though.
Agreed.
Congrats on the wedding.
And they said, I hope you were able to enjoy the day apart from what happened
with your ex. Which I do, like, that sucks. To have your wedding tainted by this.
It's just weddings are just, everything is so heightened because for the people who are
spending the money and flying their family in, the stakes feel so high. So anything feels like
the biggest deal in the world. I can understand the wife's perspective, but I don't think
the husband, it was a lose-lose for him. It really was because I feel like the bride would have
been like, you didn't do anything. You let your stalker be there. But it was just such an
unfortunate situation. She couldn't control the wife that it's like, it just sucks.
It just sucks.
Yeah. I think even if the police hadn't been called, the ex was going to make a scene. She
was yelling that we should be together. It should be her and I, you and I. She was prompted at that
point being arrested, but she would have done that at some point in the wedding, I believe.
Totally. And what's so interesting is there are way more male stalkers, way more. No question.
But female stalkers, when they lock in, they're terrifying. Terrifying. So I can only imagine.
Yeah. I do have some stats later in the episode about stalkers, but this story kind of reminded
me of, or all these stories that I'm going to share remind me of that podcast, Love Trapped.
Have you listened to that one? Yes.
Yeah. Intense. Highly recommend if you haven't.
Amazing, amazing podcast.
Okay. So now we have an update.
Okay. And this answers a lot of questions. So the original poster wrote,
I got a lot of requests for an update on my original post. So here it is.
It's been a very long day since I first posted, and I've spoken to both my wife and Chris.
Starting with my wife, we had a very long, tearful conversation about everything from my ex
to the wedding. I apologized for the fact that I didn't consider involving her before calling the
police, which meant that my ex's outburst while being escorted out came as a complete surprise
to her. She apologized for the fact that I didn't consider involving her before calling the police,
for the way she reacted and explained that she wasn't angry at me, but angry with my ex and the
fact that the wedding was ruined and that the focus was shifted away from us and to my ex.
She says that her anger was misdirected. Another reason for the anger is that a lot of guests had
no idea who my ex was. So my ex's comment of we're meant to be together led people to theorize that
I had been cheating on my wife with my ex. So now we're out having to put fires out before rumors
begin to spread. My wife is now very much focused on her ex. I'm not sure if she's going to be able to
focus on making sure I'm okay after all of this, although she is distraught about our special day
being ruined, but we'll work through that together. On to Chris, and here is where things
get a little scary. So my wife and I called him together, firstly to check that he's okay.
He is. Secondly, we wanted to see how the hell my ex managed to worm her way into his life in
order to get to my wedding. According to Chris, they connected over social media.
She started liking his posts over the course of about a month and then slid into his DM
and they started chatting from there. The crazy part is that to Chris, my ex has a completely
different name. But her posts on her profile dated back three years, meaning she's had this profile
with a fake name for at least three years, and it's not the only one. Which also means that the
original poster and his wife never would have known that the ex was coming because in the RSVP,
it's a different name. Oh my gosh. Chris told us that a few other guys contacted him after the
wedding and said, I'm going to go to my ex's house. I'm going to go to my ex's house. I'm going to
say that they recognized her because they also received DMs from her on different accounts,
all with different names. In this friend group, trying to kind of get closer to this groom?
Specifically. Yeah. Yeah. So there's so much forethought here. Commitment too. There are at
least three other accounts that we are currently aware of. Apparently my ex showed no signs of
being obsessed with me or even that she knew who I was. He invited her to my wedding as a plus one,
thinking they might eventually get
serious as they were having a really good time together. Chris has since apologized profusely,
but we made it clear that we do not blame him for this. There has been no word currently on
what's going on with my ex, but considering her breaching the restraining order and resisting
arrest, we assume maybe she'll end up in prison. My wife and I have spoken about it. And if we are
contacted by the police, we will absolutely press charges. And my wife is planning to also get a
restraining order. For now, we're going to go try and enjoy our honeymoon and deal with the rest of
this mess when we get back.
Thank you, Reddit, for all the advice and opinions. You gave a lot of perspectives on
a situation, things that I hadn't considered. Oh my God. I mean, as someone who's had a wedding,
it's just like I would be, I could imagine being really distraught about something like that
happening. But what's even scarier is just like someone being so locked in,
not realizing what they're about to do and how delusional it is that you're still pursuing this.
And the amount of work to like slowly like weasel your way,
into getting an invite to this wedding by targeting all of the friends and just seeing
who's going to be the one. Yeah. Whoever, whoever she can con into being invited.
It's so scary.
Yeah. And it's hurtful. And like now Chris is a victim too, being used to sort of as a,
you know, vessel to destroy this friend's wedding is really a bummer.
It's so sad.
Yeah. And creepy.
Have you ever had a stalker?
No.
Not like a committed one.
I've definitely had a couple internet.
I like the categorizing of stalkers.
Yeah. Because like, it's definitely like blew over.
Okay.
But that's not, it can get really bad.
Well, also with social media nowadays, I feel like there's so many different levels of stalking.
Yeah.
But it's so easy, especially you and I, we have like digital footprints and we have
public professions. And you also dabble a lot in the true crime space and like with
really dangerous people.
Yeah. I mean.
That it's scary to think that someone can find you based on your posts or whatever you're posting
online.
Yeah. I'm really careful about that actually. And I usually don't post anything in the moment,
like especially if I'm at a certain place. Have you had a stalker?
Yes. But it was mostly a lot of like calls and heavy breathing.
That's horrifying.
It was disturbing. Yeah. And it happened for a period of like maybe a year.
I still have no idea who it was. I have a theory.
Someone who you know.
What? Yeah.
Yeah. Because I think it's like 78%.
Usually is.
In the 70% of people you know you're stalkers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it was. So when I was in college, I went and spent one day and did like background work for
a movie. And I befriended a bunch of people who were doing extra work. And I think it was someone
I met there. Because in one of the calls, like one of the first calls when I answered, and this is
back in the day where like you would answer.
Unknown numbers. Now I just like send them all to voicemail. Right. Yeah. But this is probably like
10 years ago at this point. And they said, is this Sabrina from like the like the one who like we met
on set or something like that. And then the heavy breathing started. And then I hung up, obviously,
because that's unsettling. Yeah. And then, yeah, occasionally I get that same call and they would
just sit there heavy breathing, which I feel like. Ew. You know what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. No,
and like digital stalkings, really unnerving and really dangerous because obviously like our whole
networks are connected to us on the Internet. So I've heard stories about stalkers where it's like
they're contacting your mom. They're in the stalking is so bad that they're isolating you
from like your support system. So scary. Yeah. It can be really, really damaging to your
livelihood. And thank God I haven't experienced anything to that degree.
What was your light level stalking? So I lived in Hollywood. Yeah.
And it was a really high foot traffic area. And someone was leaving stuff on my doorstep.
And it started with like a corsage, like what you get at prom. And then I was just it was really
weird. And I just someone was leaving like romantic things on my doorstep. That's scary because it's at your home.
I know. And I went to the gym. There was a Gold's gym right across the street. And I worked out there
almost every day because it was like you could see it from my front door. Yeah. And so I'm like, it must be someone who knows I live
here. It didn't feel like dangerous, but it was weird because it was my house. Yeah. Like they
know where you live. Yeah. But it didn't last that long. That's good. They found someone else. Yeah.
Which is like not. It blew over. I'm sad for whoever else they found.
But yeah. No. And I mean, I'm no psychologist, but I feel like the psychological profile of someone
who gets this obsessed is really like complicated. It's very complicated. And I don't think I personally
am of the mind. I don't think there's a cure for it. You know, there are all these really horrible
stories where like men lock in on their exes. And 10 years later, you know, I don't know if you heard
the story. The Tepe case. No. Where literally this husband and wife and, you know, they were
murdered in their home. And it turns out and, you know, they were young. They were, you know,
under 40. It turns out it's the ex-husband of the woman who they haven't had
contact in years. They divorced amicably. And the ex-husband's a surgeon, like a doctor.
And he did this sort of out of the blue just because he just wasn't over it and murdered
both of them. And it's a case that's unfolding. Years later.
It's unfolding right now. The trial hasn't happened yet. Yeah. Some people just hold
that grudge, like gone girl level. Yeah. And like, especially that many years later,
you wouldn't expect a pivot like that or. Well, yeah.
You just think I have too much to lose. You know, the guy's a doctor.
Crazy. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, OK. Now that you have that context. OK. Do you think
that the original poster is the asshole or no? He's not the asshole. He was in a lose lose
situation. Yeah, totally. I also do feel bad that they're like using the narrative of the
wedding was ruined. It wasn't because it wasn't. No. She just embarrassed herself. Yeah. Should
be the narrative. And that's not it's not their fault. No. Yeah. And this is nothing about them
for, you know, not neither of them did anything to ruin the wedding. No. Yeah. And I do think
I mean, I don't know the timeline of the wedding, but if they were able to get her escorted out
earlier on the earlier side of the wedding, I hope that like
they got to enjoy themselves after. Honestly, no one shoved anyone's face in a cake.
No one fell into water. Like, I've seen horror. Or what's that show that was on Hulu, Tell Me Lies?
Yes. The very last episode. Oh, the last scene in the last episode where people are admitting
to a face. Yeah. Yeah. At least it wasn't that. Right. Yeah. It could be worse.
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not the end of the line. You're watching the game at a buddy's house when you get a call that
someone tried to break into yours. You're watching the game at a
column. This is going to sound a little crazy, but I need some advice anyway. I just want to start by
saying that I've never had any problems with paranoia, delusions, or psychosis, and I don't
believe in ghosts or anything like that. I'm also 35 years old now, so I don't think it's likely that
those types of mental health issues would arise at such a late age, which in the comments people
were like, it can come on at any time. That being said, I do feel like I'm going crazy. I am pretty
happy with my life. I'm happy with my life. I'm
I live alone, and no one as far as I know has a key to my apartment. I have two keys,
and both are in my possession. I have checked several times. I have tried putting glasses and
plates on the table as a test before I go to work. I've taken pictures of them to compare with
pictures when I get home, and so far I have not been successful in proving anything. The most
obvious things that I've noticed that I've moved are a plate that I had breakfast on one day,
and it moved maybe 30 centimeters from where I put it. Candles have moved from the center of
the coffee table to the edge of the table, and a shampoo bottle has moved from one shelf to another
that I never used to put shampoo on. So that one is like, because the other one is like, okay,
maybe there's like a mini earthquake, but the shampoo switching shelves.
That can't just happen accidentally. There are several other things that I have noticed.
But there are very small things that I'm like, maybe or maybe not, it was me.
But I'm also very aware of where everything is. My ex-boyfriend had the key to my apartment for
many years before we broke up, but we broke up two years ago. We didn't fall out. He has a new
girlfriend now, and I'm 99% sure it's not him. He also works in Copenhagen several days a week,
and I live in Jutland. I've asked him on days where things have moved where he was, and he's
in Copenhagen on those days. He even shared his location on Messenger to prove where he was,
and that feels enough for me. I've also asked him on days where things have moved where he was,
What would you do? I have no evidence of anything, and in principle, I could have been sleepwalking
or something and just noticed the changes when I got back home from work, because I did occasionally
sleepwalk as a child. But as far as I know, it hasn't happened in maybe 25 years, and it's
starting to get pretty creepy. Okay. Well, what should they do is get some cameras, first of all.
I mean, that seems like the obvious thing. But as far as what has retroactively already occurred,
I don't know. Mm-hmm.
The thing's moving a little bit here, a little bit there. There are a lot of possible explanations
for that. So many reasons, yeah. As for the shampoo bottle ending up on the different shelf,
I mean, I'm the kind of person where I can be in my kitchen, I'm like, did I take my medication?
Or did I take, you know, I truly have no idea. Yeah. And I'm like, you know, it's like I get
in a mode or I answer the phone, and I'm doing something while I'm on the phone, and I have no
idea. I don't know if there's something like that going on. Yeah, like you just get distracted and
put it back in the wrong place. You know, I just think it's like we live in a stimulating world
with like phones going off and alerts and things pulling our attention. I think it's totally
possible that she moved it and doesn't recall. It was unclear. We didn't get the, yeah. But I do
have a really big fear of, and I don't even live in a house, but these stories where it's like
someone's living in the walls of your house. The froggers? Yes. Is that what they're called,
froggers? I think they're called froggers. Yeah. Or frogs. Like I'm terrified of that. So that's where my mind jumps to immediately.
And clearly it's enough where this original poster is taking to Reddit. Like they've gotten to a point
where it's probably happening for a prolonged period of time where they're like, I feel like
something is happening. Did you see the documentary Voyeur? No. Where the guy was like living in
documenting, but you'll have to watch it. But I don't know. As someone who's lived in apartments
all over LA.
Okay. I've had things disappear. Okay. That there's no, that I did not lose. Okay. That
disappeared. The thing is, if you are renting a place, the landlord has keys. True. Contractors
are given keys. Yeah. These things happen. Yeah. Where people are like, okay, they know you're at
work because they're working at this other apartment or they have cameras just for the
building. Like people do weird entitled stuff. It's very true. Especially people who are like,
people who own the building, even though the law is that like, that's your apartment and they have
to like give you 24 hours or whatever. But people don't care. And there's just, I know from my
experience, things disappeared. Things were taken from my apartment. That's so weird. But not in a
burglary. What were, what was going missing? I've had purses go missing, but it's not like a
burglary. Like it's not like someone broke in, but I don't notice till way later. So I don't know
when it happened. Well, someone could have broken in. No, but like not,
not in an obvious way, I guess like really good thieves know not to make it obvious. So people
don't notice till right away. Yeah. Till, till way later. I mean, yeah. So it's possible, but like
someone could be messing with him, someone, her, them, someone could be messing with them. Someone
could have showered in their place. Like I've heard stories. Which is so, I've heard stories like that
too. Also the idea of someone having a key, which is true. Like if you rent, multiple people have
keys. Like
you could do whatever you want, but like someone could hypothetically sneak in and take a picture
of you sleeping at any point. Yeah. Okay. So here are some comments. There's a well-known Reddit
thread that sounds very similar to what you describe. It turned out that person had severe
carbon monoxide poisoning that created paranoia and delusions. So I would strongly advise you
to see if you can find somewhere else to sleep for the next few nights and then buy a detector.
The original poster said, thanks. I Googled it. I'm staying with my parents tonight. And then
I'm going to buy a carbon monoxide detector tomorrow, just in case, because that is
true. Could be something that's happening. Another commenter wrote, I don't know what it is,
but I would like to add a comment to, it's too late to have these kinds of mental problems.
As a nurse in psychiatry, I meet patients of all ages who come in with similar experiences.
It happens that we have people in their sixties admitted who suddenly have psychotic symptoms for
the first time, which I agree. Like that can come on at any point in life and it can be triggered.
Yeah. Medication, you know, traumatic events, depression.
Yeah. And the original poster did respond saying, I've been very,
very stressed and haven't slept well, which is why I thought maybe I was sleepwalking again
after so many years. Have you ever slept walk before?
No. It's so scary. Have you? What have you done?
I had a lot of sleep. I continue to have a lot of sleep related problems.
Oh, I thought you were going to say you still sleepwalk.
No.
I don't sleepwalk, but my parents told me, and it's really scary. My parents told me that
what I used to do is that they would wake up to me screaming bloody murder, and I was under their
bed. So I would go into their room. I was like six, seven. I was young, but I would find my way
under their bed and then just blood curdling screaming. And they would, you know, maybe that's
why their marriage didn't last. I don't know. You're the problem. Yeah. I can't even believe
that, but I'm not surprised. I mean, I've had sleep issues as long as I can remember. I don't
sleepwalk anymore, but now I just don't sleep. And that's probably why. The screaming. I know.
Under their bed. A little girl, a scary girl. It's like a horror movie. What would you say
like when you would wake up? I don't know. You don't know. You don't remember. No.
Isn't that crazy? That's horrifying. Do you have siblings? I have two.
Do they?
No. My one sister, I have two younger sisters. My first younger sister sleeps like a rock. She
could sleep anywhere. She could sleep on the floor right now in this room. I feel like I'm
closer to that. Really? Yeah. I'm jealous. It depends on my like stress levels. Yeah. No,
no. My other sisters have no problems. Just me. Just you. Lucky me. Lucky you. Lucky your parents.
Waking up to their child screaming under the bed. Oh my gosh. It's like that scene in AI when the
AI child cuts.
The hair. Yeah. Yeah. Terrifying. Children are scary. Yep. Okay. Then someone else was
commenting basically saying that they live in a place that shakes 24 seven, like feels like a
constant earthquake. I guess there was like construction and stuff. So the original poster
was like, there are a number of apartments being built nearby with associated noise. So it's not
entirely impossible. I'll say that we've renovated our condo and our neighbor told us that like a
mirror fell off her wall.
During the renovations. Yeah, but not during like things were just slowly shifting. And like one day
they were working, but like it was on a different wall in her place. But the only explanation was
the work we were doing. Yeah. The slow shifts. Yeah. So that makes sense. Are you ready for the
update? Yes. It's crazy. Okay. Hi again, everyone. A lot has happened since I wrote the post.
I figured out what's up with this situation. I bought two cameras. So took your advice. Smart.
Yeah. And set one up in the living room slash kitchen. And then,
one in the entrance hall. It turns out my apartment actually has three keys, not two,
as I thought. My neighbor, also 35 years old, apparently looked after the previous tenants
cat occasionally and had a key to their apartment. She didn't return the key after they moved out of
what is now my apartment. This girl and I were pretty good friends to start with when I moved in,
but she became more and more clingy to the extent that she would call up to 15 times a day
and talk for over four hours in total per day.
I couldn't even leave her alone. I couldn't even leave the apartment without her wanting to know where I was going and she would
get angry if I didn't respond immediately to her messages. Even if I was asleep. There was so much
drama surrounding her that I couldn't take it anymore and chose to completely cut off contact
and I thought she had respected that. Turns out that she has let herself into my apartment,
gone through my cupboards and drawers, and apparently deliberately was moving things
around to make me paranoid. She can hear when I go in and out of my apartment because her
entrance is only five meters from mine. And that is why she always says,
when I wasn't home even though I work shifting hours. I confronted her and said that I would
call the police and she panicked and contacted her father who came over to my apartment.
He's a doctor and said that she has borderline personality disorder and refuses treatment
because she doesn't think she's wrong. He said she's impulsive, outwardly reacting,
and often feels a strong urge to revenge herself on people who she feels have treated her unfairly
or let her down, which is a terrifying thing to be told. This has apparently been a theme
throughout her life with almost all of her relationships,
romantic, and friendships. And her dad practically begged me not to call the police
and said that he would do everything he can to prevent anything similar from happening again.
I got him to pay for a locksmith to change the lock and I said that I would report her to the
housing association who would then report her to the police if she didn't voluntarily move out of
the apartment as soon as possible because I didn't want her as a neighbor anymore.
They both accepted that and she has now chosen to move back to her parents at the end of February.
So the ending was relatively good for me, albeit very chaotic.
People like that woman who was breaking in are not safe people. I don't think they can be helped.
The level of entitlement, how brazen and bold it is, like going into someone's home is so
violating. But this is exactly the kind of thing that I always suspected when things would disappear
was happening. Like did you think it was a landlord or a previous tenant?
No, I think with my last place, there were several people who had switched units.
There was like, you know, 12 units and a couple, one,
woman had like two for an Airbnb. It was just a very like communal, one person was like showing
units for the landlord. I just sensed it was something like that and I just could never prove
it. But I've moved out. But these things happen all the time.
Which is so scary.
But these people are everywhere. Like that kind of entitlement is everywhere.
I want to believe it's something that could get helped. Like I have been in unhealthy relationships
the codependency is like, it's unhealthy, right? And you take, like there was one relationship where
I was like, I just need like two months of space. And within a week, they showed up at my door,
like flew across country, showed up at my door. And I thought it was romantic, but it could turn
into a situation where it's like unsafe. And I like to think that, I don't know, like people
could work through their own traumas to not have that behavior. I don't know. I think there are
some situations that demand more nuance, like the age of the person, maturity. Like, but I think if
you're an adult, if you're cooked, like a baked individual and you're doing this, I don't think
so. Like if you're still in college and you're like obsessed with your boy, like I think maybe
if you're not dangerous, you're just a little immature, fine. But like, I don't know.
Yeah. Well, I think at the crux of it is like a deep,
internal like insecurity. A hundred percent.
And like you become obsessed with someone else because you can't deal with your own stuff.
I'm also scared because I have like re-entered the dating world again. And it is scary putting
myself out there and meeting people. Like I text all my friends. I'm like, this is who I'm going
on a date with. This is where I'm going to be. Everyone has like, all my girlfriends have my
location. They know where I am. But like I could meet someone and have one date and it's fine. But
I decide to like not continue it. I don't know that they're not going to follow me home or turn
into one of these or they already are one of these people. It's scary.
You know, that's every interaction though. Like it could be a colleague. It could be a friend.
It could be.
It could be someone who sees you at the gym.
It could be someone. It could be a family member. You know, a lot of stalking
is your own family.
See, this is why I love it and hate Reddit. It's like,
it's telling us things that we already know about the world. But then it makes me scared of
and a true crime in general too. It's like this fine line of wanting to immerse yourself and know
more about it to be aware and also like protect yourself in a way. But the reality is that you
can't. You can't. And the scariest thing is like statistically all crime, all stalking,
it's way more likely to occur. You know, you're most vulnerable to those closest to you.
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Okay, so this next story, or the last story that I have,
is maybe the scariest one of the episode.
Okay, I'm ready.
So this is called,
Has Anyone Had Success With Private Investigators?
For the past six months, I have been relentlessly stalked
and had threats against my life made from someone I dated for a month.
It started with phone calls upwards of 45 to 50 a day,
50-page text messages,
and him showing up outside of my house at 5 a.m.
When I wouldn't have done it, I would have done it.
When I wouldn't comply or feed the negative attention,
I began to receive threats,
claims that he would murder me and get away with it.
All he would have to do is flee the country.
He would tell me that he shouldn't have to force me to be his friend,
and that I had to give him another chance or else.
Every time I blocked his number from contacting me,
he would then call me from a different one's.
He would try to pretend to be other people or have his friends,
or sometimes even random strangers he'd ask on the street to contact me.
I once scared an unsuspecting guy half to death after informing him
that the police had arrested me.
white inside. I jumped up and I grabbed
the gun because as of recent, I've done everything with it, even showered with it. That's how scared
I've been. I stood at the top of my stairs and I fired twice, hitting him in the chest. I heard
his scream, his disbelief that I stood up for myself, zero to 100 milliseconds. I have never
been so afraid in my life and I don't know if he's living, but I do know the police have him
and that's what helps the most. For months, he evaded the police and I began to question whether
he was unstoppable, untraceable, Houdini who would murder me and get away with it, and as of
now, I'm in a haze of guilt, surprise, relief, and disbelief. I survived where so many people do not.
Holy shit, I survived. Then they edited, the outpouring of support is wild. I can't thank
you guys enough. Everyone can be a critic and the fact still remains, you don't know what you
would do in a situation until it's presented in front of you. Those who believe there are other
things to have been done have never had someone tell you that you no longer deserve to draw breath
and
mean it. And for the, you should have fired a warning shot folks, there are no warning shots.
He kicked my door in, there was no longer a deterrent preventing harm, warning shots are
dangerous and could have hurt someone unintended. This is not a Wild West movie, that's what
responsible gun ownership is. I'll update once things have calmed down a bit, I promise. I'll
write back to everyone and after being isolated for so long, anyone who wants to be friends,
I am always accepting those. And they posted a picture of the door being kicked in, like the,
oh my god, yeah, I mean, so scary.
And there was a news article that we found about this story. It says,
The man fled from the scene, tried to hide in the area, but a canine unit was able to locate him
behind bushes. So he still fled. Adrenaline. Yeah. Police on Friday afternoon confirmed that
the suspect is 22 year old and the name was redacted. The victim in contact with Fox does
not wish to be identified and said her past relationship with the redacted name wouldn't
qualify as romantic. The victim sent a series of screenshots, she said, detailed numerous texts and
online messages from Jackson. She wrote in a blog that a stalker forced her to move,
obtain a restraining order and require a license to carry a concealed weapon.
The victim told Fox that she'd been sleeping with a chair in front of her door to keep her stalker
out. And then six years later, we have an update. A Nevada man has been sentenced to 15 years in
prison after pleading guilty to stalking a female acquaintance while on parole for a similar crime
that has happened in Las Vegas. So this just proves there's something wrong with this man.
He did it again.
Yeah.
The sentence for the 28 year old, the name was redacted on Friday, was arrested in Arizona in
January and pleaded guilty to the aggravated stalking charge in July. According to prosecutors,
an investigation by the Sparks Police Department determined Jackson had sent numerous threatening
text messages to a woman over several months in 2019. The text included threats against the
woman's dog, her property. He also called the woman's family and friends in an effort to get
more information about her. At the time of the threats, redacted was on parole for stalking a
former girlfriend in Las Vegas. The woman ended up shooting him at her home. According to the
district attorney's office, prosecutor redacted sought a maximum sentence because of the terrifying
nature of redacted's conduct, which came after only a month on parole for the previous crime.
I mean, I have a lot of thoughts.
Let's hear them.
First of all, that's exactly what guns are for.
Yeah.
Like that is a proper use of a gun.
100%.
It's like law enforcement.
Not helping you because the law, not because they don't want to, but because the laws are what they
are. And until they have just enough to be able to charge the perpetrator, like she defended her life.
To be so scared that you are one, like you have to obtain a gun and then shower with it,
sleep with a chair under your door. That's horrifying.
Yeah. It's disgusting that she had to do that. And then now she's traumatized.
Because she didn't, yeah.
I mean,
It's all horrible.
It's all horrible.
It's horrible. And it's like, you know, and then I think about the person he stalked next,
like threaten my dog. I dare you.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
It's horrible.
Because think about the mental torment. It's like sometimes we have to leave our dogs.
Yeah.
Our dogs need to go out. Our dogs need to be left at home alone.
I would change my life around a threat like that.
Yeah.
Because it's just, it's just disgusting.
Well, this is also just like the worst. I mean,
the worst case scenario is that he came in and he killed her, right? Like, but the escalation here
is the worst case scenario of a stalking situation that they follow through with their threats,
that they're so obsessed with you that if you refuse to be with them, they are going to kill
you.
And we don't know which ones will and won't. Like that's the, yeah, you don't know.
Yeah. And, but a lot do. Like if you're that kind of obsessed stalker, a lot are not willing to
stop.
I hope that no one has ever been stalked.
And I hope that no one stalks anyone.
Ever again.
Maybe not. Let's just focus on our own mental health if that's what you're trying to do.
Yes.
But if you have been stalked, I would love to hear people's stories. So we want to invite you
to share your stories on our subreddit. It is crimesofpod and we will put it in the show notes
that you can find it.
Yes. Tell us everything.
Tell us all of your secrets, all of your stories. And then, yeah, if you have any other Reddit
stories that you want us to cover on the show, you can always let us know.
You can also share them with us in the comments or link them in Reddit posts that you put on our
subreddit. Because we have a lot that we want to dive deep into on Reddit.
Stalking is such a terroristic crime that it makes me sad that these people had to turn to Reddit.
Yeah.
Because resources are so scant when it comes to crimes like this.
When I was trying to transition to be like, I want to hear your stories. It's like bleak
because there's, I wish I had an answer.
And I don't. And like, we don't have answers. I mean, crimes, crimes are, people shouldn't commit
crimes. And I wish, I wish I could wave my magic wand and that be the answer.
But stalking specifically, it's like, there's something so disorienting about it. Because
once you know you're being stalked, even when you're not, everything feels intentional.
Everything feels scary. So.
Yeah. And the paranoia that you create in your own mind is just as bad as like the chaos they
are creating in your life.
It like really distorts your reality and it's traumatic.
Yeah. And no one stalk us.
Yeah. Please don't.
I think that's, that's a good rule of thumb here.
Totally.
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Yes.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The episode explores a disturbing case of a woman’s ex, who had a restraining order, showing up at her wedding as a plus-one, leading to an arrest and significant emotional fallout.
A key revelation is that the ex had used fake social media profiles and infiltrated the groom’s friend group over months, demonstrating premeditated stalking with deep psychological manipulation.
The story highlights how female stalkers, once committed, can be especially dangerous and manipulative, often going unnoticed until they breach boundaries with severe consequences.
The host and co-host discuss the psychological complexity of stalking, noting that it frequently stems from deep-seated insecurity and trauma, not just superficial obsession.
A separate case details a stalker who threatened violence, forced the victim to obtain a concealed weapon, and even had her shoot at him—highlighting the extreme risk and trauma of severe stalking.
The discussion emphasizes that stalking is often underreported and under-resourced, with victims relying on online forums like Reddit for validation and support.
The episode stresses the importance of recognizing red flags, such as digital footprints, sudden changes in personal spaces, and unsolicited contact, as early warning signs.
Experts and listeners agree that while some stalking behaviors may be treatable, others—especially those involving violence or long-term obsession—are symptoms of serious mental health issues that cannot be easily cured.
Summary:
This episode of *Crimes of Reddit* delves into the terrifying reality of stalking through a detailed Reddit thread involving a man’s ex, who violated a restraining order by attending his wedding as a plus-one. The original poster reveals that the ex had infiltrated the groom’s social circle through fake social media profiles and targeted friendships, showing a calculated, long-term obsession. The situation escalates when the ex becomes aggressive during the wedding, leading to an arrest and emotional distress for both the groom and his wife.
The episode then expands to explore broader patterns of stalking, noting that female stalkers are particularly dangerous and often go undetected until they breach boundaries. A separate story features a victim who endured relentless phone calls, threats, and stalking for months, eventually resorting to carrying a gun for protection. The narrative emphasizes how stalking distorts reality, triggers severe paranoia, and often stems from deep-seated emotional insecurity.
The hosts stress that while some stalking may be linked to mental health issues, others represent violent, unrelenting obsession that demands urgent intervention. The episode concludes by highlighting the scarcity of resources and support for stalking victims, urging listeners to share their experiences on the subreddit *crimesofpod* and to remain vigilant about digital and physical safety. It underscores that stalking is not just a crime of violence but a profound psychological and emotional trauma, often more damaging than the physical act itself.
FAQs
The theme of the episode is stalker stories, focusing on real-life cases of stalking and the psychological impact on victims.
No, the original poster is not considered an asshole. They followed the law by calling the police after their ex broke a restraining order and showed up at the wedding.
The stalker gained access through a friend who connected with her on social media over a month, and she used a fake name across multiple accounts to infiltrate the friend group.
The investigation revealed that the stalker used multiple fake profiles, targeted friends to gain access to the wedding, and had a history of manipulation and deception.
Yes, stalking can be linked to underlying mental health issues such as borderline personality disorder, where impulsivity and a need for control are common.
Signs include excessive social media contact, using fake profiles, sending threatening messages, showing up at events, and attempting to gain access to personal information or locations.
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