The transcript explores how media, especially documentaries and reality shows, often misrepresents individuals by using selective clips and one-sided perspectives without interviewing the subject. The speaker criticizes the pastor’s wife documentary for not interviewing the pastor, instead relying solely on the family’s account and distorted sermons to build a narrative. He points out how such media manipulates public perception—like falsely portraying his dislike of Ant due to a misinterpreted comment—demonstrating a pattern where people are misrepresented without accountability. The discussion extends to broader issues of truth, narrative control, and emotional impact, with the speaker noting that he's deeply affected by these distortions, especially during therapy, where he grapples with feelings of being misunderstood and misrepresented. He also references how people like Bryson D. Shembo reclaim their narratives through authenticity and public challenges, contrasting with media-driven attacks. The conversation underscores the danger of unchecked storytelling, where audiences are fed incomplete truths and feel powerless. The speaker reflects on personal experiences, including therapy and media exposure, to argue that true understanding requires transparency, balance, and accountability. He warns that without these, public narratives become weaponized, and individuals are left vulnerable to false impressions. The tone is critical yet reflective, emphasizing the need for media to represent complex realities, not just simplify them for entertainment.
>> 100% >> [LAUGH] >> How? What's up? >> Brand new four bears, four bears, what the fuck? >> Four bears. >> Four bears, two bears. Hey Tom, I chatchy-peatied a bunch of my takes today, so they should be like not controversial. >> Oh cool, yeah. >> Chad always says what's up, it's cool. >> Chad really does, cuz I feel like every opinion I have is absent. >> Absolutely against the grain of the internet. >> Is it? >> I feel like it, maybe it's just in my head, dude. I am doing so much work in therapy right now, you have no fucking idea. >> Are you really? >> You have no idea. Like I am doing all the hard work. But let's get back to my bad takes. >> Okay. >> Have you seen the pastor's wife on Netflix? >> I have not, is that a doc? >> It's a hit job is what it is, but yeah, it's a doc. What is the, wait, what's the premise of it? Is it a crime thing? >> I got fucking destroyed by my daughters and wife. >> What did you get destroyed for? >> So it's a documentary about a pastor who's overbearing cheats. He's not a great guy, clearly. His wife. >> But he's a man of the Lord. >> He's a man of the Lord, but he's questionable, cuz he's been cheating and, you know, it's, I don't know. He's not the greatest guy in the world. >> Okay. >> I guess I'm just going off what I saw in this doc. >> Sure. >> His wife has a mental break. It's his second wife. He cheated on his first wife with this lady who was also married. They have an affair. She gets on the pills, not the pills on the meds, because she has a mental break. And then throughout the story, she kills herself at the very end, spoiler alert. I guess she's supposed to say spoiler before you talk about the thing. >> She kills herself spoiler alert. >> Okay. >> That would upset me if I were listening, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's cute up for tonight. Okay. Really cool. >> I just came in you, spoiler alert. >> Spoiler alert. >> Spoy alert. >> Spoy alert. You're pregnant. So, and people don't use spoiler alert enough, I don't think. >> Yeah, they usually, they say that, and then they talk about the thing. >> Cops, you should do that, and just go spoiler alert, you're getting arrested. >> Yeah. >> Or you're under arrest. >> Spoiler alert. Yeah. >> So, they don't interview the dude. Now, it's just an interview of the girl's family. The girl's got a tragic history, and it's an interview. >> This is the second wife. She's like, I think she's an islander or something, and so, I don't know, Tom. I barely paid attention yet, brown, brown, yeah, doesn't sunburn, good hair, good body. And so, the whole documentary is told from her perspective, from her family's perspective, about how this guy is responsible for her suicide. However, they just take excerpts of his sermons as in using him, that for his interview. So yeah. So it's really, without talking to him, it's almost like, this is what made me, but triggered me is like, I've seen them do it to Joe, I've seen them do it to you, I know they're doing it to me, but like when people do like content on us and just use clips from our podcast out of context. >> Yeah. >> And you're like, wait, I didn't say that, that's not what that was about. >> Because you can shape a narrative you want. That's how skilled documentary makers, I mean, honestly, I had experience in that a little bit in when I used to work in reality TV, like in post, and I've worked in the story department too, but the really talented people at that, they shape a story based on things you've said and they can create a whole thing, yeah. >> Dude, last coming standing too, they made it look like I hated Ant because he was gay. >> That's cool. >> And I was like, dude, this is national television. I mean, yes, I didn't like his lifestyle choice yet, but he never said that out loud. Do you remember Ant? >> Was he the little short guy? >> He was like, yeah, Rogan called him out because he stole a joke. Boxing's gay, it's a prize fight of your fighting number. >> He called him out on the show. >> That's right, yeah, on the show he called him out, and then I, Ant was a, look, I've since talked to Ant, so I'm not bringing up old B for the Ant, I don't even know if he's, I don't know what he's doing. I ran him to it at an airport one time and we're good, but he was aggressive and he knew how to play the documentary, he knew how to play the reality show game. So he, and he was kind of fucking with me, like everything he did was like a jab. And I was like, wow, what is this? And then like, so it seems like you don't like Ant, I was like, I don't. And then, then like, can you say that in a sentence, I was like, I don't like Ant. And they made it about him being gay and I was like, wait, what the fuck? >> But I like how you're like, they made it seem like I don't like Ant and then you're like, so I said, I don't like Ant. >> Well, I didn't like him. I didn't like him, but I didn't like him because he was gay, I just didn't like him. >> Right. >> And so. >> Sometimes the two line up. >> Yeah, yeah. And so I watched this documentary as if it was a reality show. They formed this guy's narrative without interviewing him and I just said casually, there's two sides to every story, my daughters lost their fucking mind. There's not two sides to any story. This woman killed herself, dad. This is what happened to Lindsey Clancy, dad, you have to understand it. I'm like, oh my God. >> But did you tell them they were just being done broads, like forgetting that emotional about not having all the information? >> Well, Tom, we're working on it in therapy. I'll tell you that much, because I feel like it's me against the world sometimes. >> Yeah. >> And I'm back into a corner and I start pulling out guns and shooting people, it doesn't matter who the fuck's all my team. >> But you really can't actually believe, when it's a story in a documentary, you can't believe whatever the version fed to you from that doc, you can choose to, but that's never the whole story. >> It's never. >> It's never. And you know, I think there should be some sort of act with you. They fuck with like, did you watch the Jesse Smollett doc? >> Yes. >> It's so clearly what like his plan and he did all that, he did everything that he's accused of. But you watch the doc and you catch yourself feeling like, yeah, maybe it wasn't all him. And then you have to snap yourself out of it. >> Can I tell you the one, can I tell you the one that I'm upset about that I don't know if I should believe now? >> What? >> I know I can't believe I'm gonna sit, hang on one second, let me just ask Chuck E.P.T. what my take should be. >> Oh boy. >> Hang on, let's just get this in there. >> I remember you used to be big on 9/11, was the Jews, is that what you're talking about? >> Nope. >> Oh. >> Maybe you evolved from that one? >> Did Michael Jackson, my son's children, okay, let's see. >> Chuck E.P.T. is telling me right now that it's genuinely contested. So there's factual record rather than a verdict. But like, but he did, he did settle for a lot. >> I know, but I wonder at a certain point, like if they, here's what's crazy is like, I'm gonna, I can't really speak of like personal instances, but like, I can speak of outside instances, like, like, let's douche shane, Gillis is a very simple one that is, you can manage your head around. So when the stuff comes out about the, the Asian stuff, at the very, very beginning of his career, right, and, and, and it comes out and it, and it can get as big as it is gonna get, or it can go away if he settles. Even if he goes, I'm not that guilty, wouldn't it just be easier to settle and be like, dude, I'll play reparations to all the Asian people, just I don't, I want this to go away. >> No, I see what you're saying. >> Like, and so at a certain point, I, I, I, I, I, I remember my dad saying, I, we had one of our friends got accused of, one of our friends got accused of sex stuff, and I was like, I called my dad, I go, I was like, um, why does, why doesn't he just fight it? And he goes, buddy, it's so much easier, just to like, and in life, and anything, just to shut the fuck up. >> It is, it is easier, and it is easier to settle. That part's true. But then there's certain things where you go, there's, I'm just not fucking doing this. Like, I'm not going, going with this, like, with depth, right? When Amber heard, he was just like, no, no, but I'm gonna go to court. I'm gonna spend the money, I'm gonna do all this, spend the time. >> But was that the right thing to do for Johnny Depp? Because- >> I think so, 100%. >> I mean, I think so, I think so, but I'm, I was always on his team. >> Yeah, I think a lot of people were, but he was like, I'm not gonna stand for this. Because he in his heart of hearts was like, no, this is not true, you're lying. >> So what's the, what's the amount of b's where you start swatting at them? That's the point, right? So like, that's a God, let's take a minute for a brilliant analogy. That's a brilliant, I just gave a brilliant, I've given two brilliant analogies this weekend. My daughter's boyfriend came to visit Eilas, and he had never had Thai food. And he was like, what is it taste like? And- >> And you'll miss the bit.
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And you'll get your lowest rate from their network of trusted carriers. Take 10 minutes to get covered today with life insurance through ethos. Get your free quote at ethos.com/bearers. That's E-T-H-O-S. com/bearers. Applications times may vary. Rates may vary. I don't fuck with raw shit. He'd never had time. Yeah. Cook, you cooked that shit? I'm in Atlanta. And so I said it was Georgia, Island, Leanne, and no one knew how to explain it. And I said, have you ever had purple Doritos? And he's like, yeah, I go, that's Thai food. Georgia looked at me and she goes, that was genius. That was the best way to explain it to a kid was if you ever had purple Doritos. But the best analogy I've ever said in my life and I've hit some bangers out of this fucking park with me. I'll tell you another one. I said another great analogy, Tom. I said the other day, reading Instagram comments is like going on WebMD, finding a disease, and then going out and actively trying to get it. Yeah, that's true. So I, how many bees until you start swatting? Like, like, and that's the question. Like, Rogan, Rogan, when it was like he took hypermectin or didn't believe in the vaccine. At first, it was like just a couple of bees by his face. And then CNN goes out and he's like, God damn it. Here we go. We're at it. Yeah, he could have made that even a bigger thing if you wanted to. He could have, like he could have, he could have like actually gone after them in a more intense way, for sure. It's crazy because I've talked to a couple people now lately who have dealt with being misrepresented in the media. And it's so fascinating because there's no repercussions. There's none. There's none. There's none. And social media has made it that anyone can misrepresent you at any given time. You just have to roll with it. And that's the thing that you do until you reach something that you don't, which is back to your analogy. Yeah, until you go, all right, that's too far. Like, I gotta, I gotta be honest with you. I've had friends going through stuff and I've wanted to respond to what they're going through online because it upsets me. And I end up, because I don't really look at anything about myself. But things about my friends will come up. And then I'm like, that's not accurate. That's not fucking accurate. And I will argue with someone who says something about a friend of mine. Because it upsets me. Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate that. You're welcome, Tom. You're welcome. I am, I have lost fucking sleep about things people said about you. Thanks, buddy. I love you. Why are you going to say anything about my movie beard? I love it. I love that you've really leaned into like the Eddie Murphy style of acting. Like you really are a clump. Like, like you like, yeah, you're like, I'm not just Tom. I'm a Tommy. I love, I love what is the movie you're doing at Santino when you were redoing broke black mountain or something? Something like that. Yeah, it's like we're in Atlanta. And we can't pay rent. And we're in this black housing complex. And then they just pass us around. It's crazy though. Like we negotiate to stay there. Can I pitch you an idea that I think is a brilliant idea that we should do? Yeah. It's called get back in the closet. And we go into a celebrity's closet. And you don't know who that celebrity is. And we go through their shit in like 10 minutes. And you have to figure out who that celebrity is. And at the end of the video. Did you get hit up to do that fridge show? What fridge show? The what's her name was like a celebrity was like, can I look at your fridge? That was her show. No, who is it? What was the girl's name? I think Tory spelling. No, can I tell you a great toy spelling story? Great. We're going to edit all this out, aren't we? Oh, yeah, never mind. Okay. By the way, speaking of movies last night for the sixth time, I watched Tenant, the other Christopher Nolan movie. Every time I feel like I may be grasped another percent of this completely non-linear storytelling. And I'm kind of like, is this the one where you assume your audience is too smart? Because I feel like a fucking moron watching this movie. And it's so cool. So like the cool factor is like mission impossible born level. But following what's going on, I'm like, what? There's so much new information in every scene. And I'm like, I don't understand what I'm watching. I have. Am I the only one? I can't be, right? I have the greatest thing. I'm going to see if I can refine it. If I can't find it, I'll re-get it for you. So when Tenant came out, it was during the pandemic, right? It may have been. I think so because Eilat and I, Eilat would say to me, do you want to watch it again? We watched it maybe 12 times. Now, our buddy produced that movie. Our good, good friend produced that movie. Yeah. And so after like the sixth time, Eilat and I called him were like, yo, we really don't understand this movie. He sent us, for lack of better words, their Bible. Please, dude. And it was leads away for the people working on the movie to understand what the movie was about. So they knew what the movie they were working on. I had the thought today. I think because I watched it right as I'm about to shoot a movie, I had the thought that I was like, when these actors got this script, were they like, what the fuck is this movie? What am I doing? How does this make sense? The craziest was watching our buddy have to clear locations. I mean, this is, I think what holds me up. Please track this down for me. I will. I will. I will. It is fascinating. And by the way, Eilat and I still watched it six more times and never understood the movie with the Bible in our hand. I have to have it. Please. Can I tell you what I love about what's his name, Patterson Nolan? Is he, he uses all the same people kind of. Yeah, he does. He does because you're, and on, you know what I caught last night? Obviously because I hadn't watched it in a while. Towards the end, when John David Washington is talking to the, the Indian woman, yes, she brings up Oppenheimer. And she's like, and she, and she references him several times. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, shit, this was like, he, this must have been like, lay in the seeds. At least even if he didn't even know, obviously he had an interest in this. Like, he was, she talks about it in depth a little bit. Christopher Nolan, Christopher Nolan, I mean, I, once again, I don't know what I can say and not say because I know too much about, like, like his, our buddy does all his movies. So he's, you know, he's casually said things. But like, Christopher Nolan, I'm, I'll leave it at that. But he is a really fascinating guy. I think I had dinner next to him one night. Nolan? Yeah, but he's very like, unremarkable. You know, he's just like a tall white dude. Yeah. And he doesn't really talk. He's kind of, you know, I wouldn't say spectra me, but like pretty regular. You know, like, he's like, I think he's a quiet guy. He's not like, I'm Christopher Nolan. Do you have any questions about any of my movies?
I saw him walking on Franklin, just for a walk, yeah. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah, he's, it seems like he's the only one out there doing it, like making movies for a large budget and making his money back. - Well, he's also, he's somebody with like a perspective and wants to tell a certain story. Like I was just watching for a few minutes this Gal Gadot movie that came out and I was like, I was taken by how bland and boring the shot selection was. 'Cause you look at it and it looks like it's a made for TV, like show and you're like, oh yeah. And then I looked up the budget and it was $264 million. And you're like, how do you make it look like an episode of Law and Order, though? Like it's so fucking bland and bright and fucking flat, it looked like shit. - I'm fascinated, I'm fascinated by, yeah, by the way, yeah, you just, as you go into production, as you go into production on a movie. - Yeah, I should probably dial that back. Hey, let's turn that down a little bit. Hey, you know, it's just like, I just was wanting more. - Well, it's so funny, right after I made the machine, I came home and you had seen Gucci. And you were like, fuck this piece of shit. Fuck them, they suck. And I was like, I remember going like, it's really hard making a movie. - Yeah, I know. - I have a hard time right now. I just watched a series that I won't say the name of, but like it was, I couldn't get past the woman's acting. It was all the time. - So over the top and so disconnected. It was a series. - Say it and we'll believe it. - What is that? - It's, by the way, now that I've said, bleep bleep bleep, everyone's gonna go, oh, I know the one. - Well, we'll bleep this shit out. It's, but the woman plays like a mom and it's clear she doesn't have a kid 'cause her acting around her kid is so over the top of like a first time mom. It's almost like a divorced mom or like a second wife, like a stepmom that I'm like, - It doesn't know how to talk. - It doesn't know how to talk, everything is just, and it was rubbing me so wrong. And the one thing that I was like really married to when we made our show is that my reactions with the kids were the same. Like the way I've always treated kids. 'Cause I didn't wanna like, like, overdo it. But like, yeah, I get, it's almost like when I started doing reality television, not reality, you know, hosted reality, and then I started watching bar rescue. And then I knew the insides of television and I was like, hold on. How are we hearing audio on any of these people? They have to have mics on. And then I couldn't enjoy any of those shows. 'Cause I was like, no one's got, dude, there's no way to hear this person. Unless his sound guy said, here's a mic, my name's Bill, I'm gonna reach up your shirt, put this on. 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Do you read sides the night before and get ready the night before for your scene or do you kind of just figure out when you get there? - Well, I try to memorize everything before production starts. So I have the script memorized. - Yeah. - Kind of. - And then, yeah, but like pretty good. And then the night before I read everything, again, obviously I go over everything for the next day. Yeah. - Really? - I try to be. - That's an interesting way to do it. - How do you do it? - I just figured out when I get there. - You just day of like in the morning? - A lot of people to do that. - Yeah, I'm a really, I'm very quick at remembering things. So I just get there the morning of and then I'll take a look at it a couple times like why I go through hair and makeup and then whoever I'm acting with will come over and we'll kind of run it a few times, but all on book. And then once I get in the scene, I can, and I know where I'm standing and I can figure out my motivation. I can then do it. For me to sit and memorize something is useless work because it all changes the second you get there. - It changes a lot. - And you're like, oh, you're gonna be like for you and it's like, oh, you're coming out of this room with a lot of energy, then all of a sudden you've been like, oh, I gotta say it totally different. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's interesting, man. I can't wait to see this movie. - I can't wait to see your fucking movie, where you play the Joppo. - I know, me too. - What are we doing with your goddamn movies, Tom? - I mean, you, I don't know. You probably have a better answer than me. I mean, I think we'll have a home for that one relatively soon. - Really? - I think so, I think so. - I'm ready to see that. - I want you to see it, I really want you to see it. - I could just do a movie about the dad in the black fraternity. - Did we talked about that with him? - Can I, can I tell you what I'd like? - Stop, stop, stop, don't tell what you're doing, but can I tell you what I'd like? - Yeah. - I would like you to shoot. Here's my pitch. 365 one minute episodes of you, with the black fraternity as the dad, so that every day I get a story told to me throughout one year, so every morning I can go on and click it and go, "Ooh, I can't wait to see what happens today, "today with the white dad." Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I was talking to Bryson D. Shembo the other day, and I was saying, you remember, he did the home on challenge over his house. And he said, "What was your favorite part of that?" We were just casually talking about it, I said, "I loved it." He said, "What did you like about it?" And I said, "I liked that I found it on day eight, "so I got to go back and watch day one through eight, "and then I got to follow it every morning and be like, "Oh, what if Bryson gets it today?" And I click it. That's the-- - What was the challenge? - Oh, dude, it was. Can you pull it up? Is that possible to pull it up? It's so good, it's worth talking about. And I wanna, I wanna just, I wanna make it global so that you understand why it was good. So Bryson is, Bryson's one of the reasons you watched "Professor."
professional golf. And there's a lot of reasons, Scottie Shaffler, there's a lot of reasons, Brooks Capka, a lot of great reasons to watch professional golf. But Bryson is a big hitter. He put on 40 pounds of muscle, increased his swing speed, also that he could just have crazy drives, right? And then that's the reason guys like me tune into the PGA. Now Bryson also came and the media kind of did a hit job on him when he went over to live and so the media kind of attacked him and made him out to be like this scientist that no one could understand and this, you know, and it really wasn't him. And in this moment, Bryson kind of took back his narrative and I apologize if I'm speaking on behalf of Bryson, he can negate all of this. This is my perspective. He took back his narrative, the much like the fucking pastor did or Joe Rogan or any of these people where the media decides to take over your narrative. He took back his own narrative and he made it. He showed you a side of himself who he naturally is, is a fun, lighthearted goofy guy. And he decided, him and this guy Hogan decided to do a hole in one, he had a hole in his backyard so he'd hit from his front yard over his house to see if he could get in a hole in one. And he did it every single day and it was light work. It was very easy shoot and it was fun. You have one of the ones or the hole in one, just show any of them. But it's really great content because he does it every day, right? So he has something to post every day, much like a crowd work clip or whatever. That seems like it's somebody else though, right? That's definitely not Bryson. So Bryson's got the beautiful house, you guys are going, so you're looking up the Bryson D Shembo challenge which a lot of people replicated, Bryson, if you go to his page, you'll find his, he did it himself. I guess maybe you don't need to see it, but it was really brilliant and I loved that because he took back charge of his narrative and now he's got his own YouTube channels massive. His YouTube scroll up to the top of that. It's the gorgeous house. It's probably him. Yes, yeah, that's him. Yeah, hole in one over my house. Since it's day 16, I get 16 shots. He's got such a pretty swing. Damn. So we got to shot for every day that it is, yeah, so it's really cool. All right, oh, I might do it hook in there. Damn, I know, right? Yeah. That's it. I would break every window in his house. I broke a single one. I broke a window. You did? Yeah, I tried this. Be good. I can do it. Be good. I don't have that kind of front yard. But that's why you watch it, that's why you watch it, that energy, that energy, we've been waiting 16 days for you wait 16 days for that's why I love you doing something. Do a challenge of, you know, like 365 days for me and shoot a bunch, do a month of shooting, but then release it every day and let the story get wilder and wilder and wilder and wilder and wilder. That's fucking rad. I think that's the, I mean, look, I don't know, I've been trying to just stay offline as much as possible because I feel like I find, I just found this out in therapy. I'm finding worth and other people's approval, as opposed to inertly finding it in my own life, like finding like being present and finding worth in my own life. So like I post and I look at likes and then that judges how I feel about myself for the day, you know? Which is crazy wrong. It's so bad. And so on. That's why I'm staying offline. I've been offline for a while. But then it's, it's a necessary evil because you have a vodka to promote it, toward a promote. You're doing a thing with this company and so it's, it really is speaking of things with the company. Yeah. Can we talk about Mountain Dew? The Dew. I'm so proud of this. We took so many of your suggestions. So many of them had to, we had to run it up the Dew poll and bring them your guys ideas. And then we took one and I don't want to say too much we shot it. We haven't seen it yet. I am so excited for this. We know what we shot. We know what we shot, but we haven't seen the full edit. So I'm, and by the way, this is with our partners in business, Mountain Dew. This is with their applied notes. So we, we took some chances. We don't know if they've been accepted. Yep. But we, but this is your idea. Your fans, you guys picked this. We shot it. We put our little thumbprint on it and Mountain Dew put their thumbprint on it. We hope you like it. Let's see it. Hey guys, it's Bert. And Tom. And we're making the most out of our last days of summer. Well, we're trying. It's a pretty hot out. Well, that was pretty fun. What is this? So hot. Oh, come on, Tom. Let me cheer you up. What do you boys drink out here? Just a deal. Just a deal. I love it. It's great. My only note is that it's about six minutes too short. Yes. Yeah. It really flew by. It was like, geez man. You guys make this longer. Well, we should say to get out there and enjoy the outdoors with Mountain Dew and American original tasting great since 48. And thank you Mountain Dew. And we had so much fun making that sizzle and thank you to the fans because that is your idea. You said just Tom and Bert are sitting in the back of a truck, drinking Mountain Dews, cop coming up, because what are you guys drinking? You're like drinking Mountain Dews. Yeah. And we took it. I do want to give props to our editors though for throwing it like cutting it like a cheesy 80s, 90s commercial. It was really good. Cheesy. I think that was bespoke. Well, you know, it was intentionally what it was. It was so good. I think that added to it so much. I was so pumped. By the way, shout out to Kelly who played the cop. She did such a great job. She was so cool. It was hottest shit. She was in the most clothes out of anyone for the day. And she was awesome. She was great attitude. Fucking brought it. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you for doing it. And here's a little transition for you. The bangles beat the bucks, which means her are bet you are going to do a solo jerking video on Twitter. You're going to post something on X of you stroking your hog. All right. I can't wait. You ready to post that? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know how viral that would go if you did that today? Dude, I think about that a lot. If you went who day and you just who day, who day? Oh, who day. Can I tell you I was kind of let down in Cincinnati for the amount of people that showed up at the stadium for opening day? What do you mean? It was kind of empty. Was it? Yeah. And I have to tell you and I'm being serious. The bucks really won that game. I mean, the bucks played a better game than the bangles. In my opinion, Baker was better than Joe Burrows easily two accidental fumbles. Yeah. It's kind of how the game goes, doesn't it? Yeah. But it's like it's like crazy that like the bucks outplayed the bangles in my opinion. No, that happens. I mean, that football is like you can play the better game, turn the ball over and lose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. The can I talk to you about Kyle? Yes. From milk boys. Oh, I thought you meant your Kyle. Oh, my Kyle's lost cause. He did the day he said if a girl, he said Kaisley goes, if a girl, what do you say? If a girl wanted me to fester on the first date, I'd do it. What? And I was like, Kyle, that's a wild thing to say. And he was like, well, if she brought it up, I think I asked him. I don't know. I forgot. I'll go in town. We'll see. I'll send you the video. But Kyle from Milk Boys is doing one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And I'm jealous. I'm jealous that I didn't see it or know about it or think Think of it first.
Because it is Incredible. He is running seven marathons in seven continents in seven days In seven continents in seven days in seven continents in seven days. How's that even starts in Antarctica? Then goes can you pull up Kyle from Nulk boys starts in Antarctica then goes to Africa Then he's on to I think Brazil where he want runs one I Mean he goes it's it's really it's seven days. I think seven days Literally is running so he lands and runs it's they charter a jet for you a big plane everyone does it. It's pretty expensive Yeah, and everyone gets on the plane and everyone Goes to the places and like you run in Antarctica and there's a time limit on the marathon It's like seven hours if you're not done the plane leaves without you and you're got you got to get on the plane and go You don't know that yeah, that detail and so it's really crazy and they're they're getting their recovery on planes That's incredible. I watched it. They all doing it or just him. It's just him. He you know I like I said I don't know the Nulk boys personally. I don't never really talk to them. He's a runner No, Kyle got in like incredible shape I'm and by the way, I'm saying this casually. I I'm just saying for what I've seen online He's got an incredible shape over the last year. I think everyone's trying to get in better shape It feels like everyone's getting in better shape. I mean for Christ sake the fucking I was with right place trades the other day Everyone's in better shape in that band like everyone and so like I feel and so Kyle pull up Kyle He's like Jack now and he's shredded and he's running seven marathons in seven days Look at it. Look at the body transformation. Click that damn Look at that dude. It's great. I mean he lives that life. I think you I don't know much about the Nulk boys Other than like what I've seen online, you know for the happy dad and stuff, but like they're living Miami I think The friends with all those guys that are like kind of locked in but also party balls I can't believe you didn't have like a Miami era to your life dude It's the one thing like When sholts during the pandemic moved down to Miami with all his buddies Did they oh, yeah, I was so jealous. I was so jealous. I'd never wanted to scorn my family more and just Leave them and they all lived like on a fucking on like a like an inlet and just took a boat out every day Although they rented they didn't buy a boat. It's like what the fuck kind of New Yorkers are these they were shoes on the beach like fucking New Yorkers That sucks in the shoes. I mean whenever you see a New Yorker on the beach. It is comical. They think they're they're cool Because they have a Yankees jersey with the sleeves cut off and they're like, yeah, this is how you relax man And then by the way, sholts has a crazy movie coming out. Have you seen his movie? It's the Street Fighter one right dude. That is gonna be fucking huge huge it is going to be fucking huge Cody roads I think now look there's a lot of stars in that Cody roads is gonna take away. I think he's I think it's gonna change his life That his performance and that from what I've seen is through the roof. I think it's gonna be fucking huge for him Future governor man for sure. He texted me the other day because we were I guess I talked shit about him on I didn't talk shit I but ever I'm so tired of defending the fact that I'm trying to make a joke This is why I don't do good at roast every time I make a joke light-hearted everyone thinks I'm being serious Yeah, that's not good. I think it's because you don't laugh enough Me? Yeah, it's your fault It's not my fault 100% this is you ready this my impression of you say something wild and then I'm gonna do an impression of you, okay? Go she said she wanted me to fester on her first date. Oh No, ready. This is how I want you to react. Okay, do it again And so I festered her on the first day. That's what I'm talking about Bert. You got a fist bitches Okay, yeah, okay, there we go We should like a change thing can we bring my couples therapist onto two bears To do a couples therapy with me and you a hundred percent. Okay, I think she'd do it. Yeah, you think she would oh She fucking loves me She loves you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Tom. I mean, there's times when I'm I'm look I'm gonna tell you this. I don't know like I don't care. I'm sweating right now So yeah, both the girls are home and and the girls say casually Can we go to your couples therapy and what yeah, I know so we're like yeah, of course we don't tell our therapist We just bring them so my therapist is a little like blindside like who the fuck are these two bitches? Island Georgia sit down. First of all, they fucking roast me. I mean, I they're like Like at one point I said something about Leana masculine me and I'll just goes that's not real That's not real. He makes up a lot of stuff. You got to know what stuff's real and what's not real with him and And then we get out and I'd never seen this and then George we all get a dinner at Georgia Island. Leana was a fun time It was really fun going to therapy with everyone. It was fun and by the way, I got to say this only because I know that like Leana I go to couples therapy because we we want to just make sure everything's good and we're not in I know a lot of people think because we're in couples therapy We're in in decline. We're not. We're just empty nesters and we're making sure we connect so We go to dinner the whole the two girls and Leana and Georgia just goes wow Fashion your therapist is team Bert all the way, huh? And Leana goes I know and I like goes it is so clear She is a big fan of dads and I was like what and then the next therapy I just went in and I started flexing it. I was like oh, yeah, I could fucking smoke Leana here Did you oh yeah destroy her because we and what oh I I lit her up What does the therapist do when you light her up? I'm gonna give you an example of like one thing. Okay, by the way, I really hope my therapist does not see this Yeah, it's impossible to find what she's I don't think she's googling me. I think that's against ethics to Google your client Then go and then she comes in and she's like so Doug Stanhope You're like what? Christopher Stefano when you hang out with him you cried one time doing a podcast with Christopher Stefano so That would be crazy if she did watch my podcast and then just assessed all the things that I talked about and then as I sat down she goes Ah, let me tell you where we're gonna start. Yeah, yeah Iless there was a thing about a masculating I'm going to way too deep in our therapy, but like it was very simple Leana grew up around tools and cars So when if it's a ever a thing about tools or cars Leana just takes charge, but I also have opinions But because I didn't grow up around tools or cars my opinions are discarded So then I said casually That that emasculates me and Ila just goes and by the way, Ila fucking brought Georgia brought it up in therapy dad Feels a masculate sometimes. I'm like that was a fucking secret Georgia and she was like no No, no, he said it to me it lows when we were buying a drill. He said mom emasculates him and Ila goes I thought real by the way, these two are running our therapy right now. Yeah, of course and then And then my therapist just goes just so we're all clear. You guys are very masculine and And all three of the women just looked at each other like hmm, we know whose team she's on and I would thank you Thank you. Yeah Appreciate that. Yeah, so But it was fun. It was fun being there's fun being in therapy But let's do a couples therapy with me you and my couples therapist. I love it. I love the idea. I think it'd be great I have so much to tell her oh never mind. This is a horrible idea Fucking you go in and McCarthy era me. I'll just be like listen whatever. He's been telling you I have the truth It's not like that He's not being a masculated one's one bit He makes so much stuff up. Oh I don't know if I could be married to a woman that was like a female I'm sorry, like lian's not a female. She's a man. She's like a bro. She's like That's got to feel good for her to hear. No, but she's like like right now like I We are I fucked up our garage door somehow. I don't know how I did it And then and so what I've been doing is I've been pulling a lever and then pushing it up What I didn't know is that coils a thing so the other day I went to do it and it guillotine and Smashed all the fucking windows in it. Whoa, and I just called the animals like we need to get that fixed and so lian Called the guy met the guy and right now they're fixing our garage door. I don't I can't do that I'm out. I'm out like I don't yeah, so I like being married to someone who I like being a masculated In that regard in that regard and when it comes to like Like our big thing is that Google is if this is real. You know the reticulating soil is Reticulating soil. Yeah. Oh, thanks. I know. Thank God. Do you know what a soil is? Yeah, fuck never mind
That's our big fight. Never mind about nothing. Drop it. It's can't stop. I think I lost Did you bring up any more to I love about Jiu Jitsu with Ellis Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah She goes I'm not getting in this you guys are gonna post it online and then I'm gonna have a little fucking 12-year-olds coming up to me Trying to fuck me up in the street. She's not wrong You're gonna have to you're gonna have to dial this back for her her her safety She's gonna have fifth grader just jumping on her neck. She goes dead. I'm not posting a video of me challenging 10-year-olds I'm gonna get fucked up in the streets She's not wrong What did Ellis say? Dude, he was just I it was exactly he was just like eyes open. He was like held or anything. What does she weigh? I'm telling you Dana White. That's the fight a 10-year-old versus a 20-year-old woman It's fucking a great idea. It's so great. Nelt boys get on it Such a good idea. It's such a good idea. Did you see the drink? They're serving at the US open? No, can you pull it up? We need to do a version of this for porosos. Can you pull it up? It's called the melon the melon ace melon ball melon face melondus melondus It looks so good Tom. Oh my god my drinking's back to normal You're drinking normal again. Not like I did so I got to say that when I decided to quit drinking I decided I didn't want to go back to the way I was where I was like never be able to catch a buzz and just drink drink drink drink And then be like oh my god. Now I'm blacked out. Okay, so the other day I was with I was on the golf course and I had two beers Then I went home passed out didn't didn't drive home obviously, but like had two co-beers and then Was like I'm done and then I went home and I like I'm drinking like a regular person all the sudden Mm-hmm, and I love it. I love it. I'm gonna drink tonight. I'm going to an Emmy's party for you. I'm representing bad thoughts We lost. Oh, okay But the Emmy's already happened Yeah, cuz we're in a special category. It happened for us. It was the week before. Oh Yeah, I was gonna go in and just tell You're like bad thoughts gonna win. No, I'm going. I'm still going. I told everyone I have my people reach out I was like I'm going home by half a tom Oh, and they're like cuz I you know, I can go cuz I work at Netflix I have a show at Netflix and then I was like by me going half a bum about half a tom So set up the red carpet so I can talk about bad thoughts and don't tell them that I'm burnt Chrysher just see if they think I'm Tom That would be that's so funny. I know and then it'd be also funny if you bring it up and then there like someone's like that That already happened and you're like wait what I win like Did we win? Did you pull up the melanase the melonduce? Yes, I saw it How good does this look? What's in this honeydews it is I can't read. It's too small One wedge of honeydew or melon at least two inches wide three ounces of store-bought home or homemade lemonade One and a half ounces of vodka preferably poor osos Half ounce raspberry liquor Wow, that does sound good. It sounds really good. Dude the number of units. So I got it. I think this is cool. I saw a video about this What's interesting is the people at the US open had gone to The Kentucky Derby and they noticed that everyone had a mint julep in their hand and they were like well That's pretty crazy that everyone's got a mint julep. They move a lot of mint juleps the numbers are interesting in this And so they said we should have our signature drink, you know like a lot of these venues like it at Wimbleton. I think it's prims. I think and that's what it is at Wimbleton, but they have like a signature drink that everyone gets at the thing You know, it's kind of like at at the master's everyone gets their Pimento cheese sandwich And so they said let's come up with a signature drink So they hit up this storage chef and they say can you do the thing? So one day he's making a fruit salad and he's making is scooping out honeydew with his melon scooper and he goes That's crazy. They kind of look like tennis balls and he goes boom. I'm gonna make the honeydews and so he creates This drink in he uses grey goose. I don't know why they use that garbage liquor, but He uses that and they moved Tom if you can find the status of stounding they move something like seven hundred million Drink that can't be real. That's not real seven You see what Said will you play the link? It's really fascinating to see how much they moved in this one Cocktail in this one cocktail at the US open. They sold 738,000 of them. Yeah, that's the number I meant to say Roughly 17 million in sales Dude, isn't he crazy? Yeah, but I just love that Someone went to the they just it's all from them going to the that's the beauty in experiencing life in Going out and going to the Kentucky Derby and seeing that everyone has a mint you look and then I love the brain the thing goes Wait, we should have one of those for the US open and then they had it and it went through the roof I can't wait to talk to I saw all the people that are there Tim Dylan was there I know he doesn't drink, but Tim Dylan was there. It was like a who's who of like the Hamptons, you know Chelsea handler A bunch of people. I can't wait to find out how that drink was I might make one tonight and see if I enjoy it Yeah, that's fucking with porosos. Yeah, I'll make that. Yeah. Yeah, let's make them and we'll make them a porosos and we'll post it online Fuck yeah, yeah, okay. Here's the question. I have accessibility to come down to Atlanta We're trying to make it happen, but if I come down to do an episode of two bears there Can you get me like a walk on roll on your movie? Probably yeah, okay Okay, when are you thinking of coming like a guy jacking off in the corner or something? Yeah, yeah When do you think you're coming? I don't know. We're trying to figure it out with Zolo Okay, Zolo who has no idea what a fucking map looks like Zolo the other day he goes he goes You're gonna be in Reno Tom's gonna be in Vegas. Can you just swing down to see Tom for to do a podcast and I was like Sure, how I would like it's a it's a big flight like an hour and a half flight and he was like oh you have to drive you have to fly I was like Reno's in a different they're neither both Nevada, but they're totally different parts of Nevada And he was like, oh, I thought they were next door to each other Thanks, Zolo There you go. It's just seven and 42 miles. I've never drive It's like the first time the first time I booked a flight to Los Angeles I got the takeoff was eight o'clock and we land it at nine o'clock and I was like wow It's only an hour to Los Angeles. I was like this is gonna be fucking I was like, why don't I go there more often? This is an hour flight. I was like this great. So I got on the plane think it would be an hour and So we should we take off and I'm like Why haven't we landed and I was like this is insane and I said to the flight attendant how much more she goes Oh about four hours and I went four hours. I said I think I might have gotten on the wrong plane I said I'm going to Los Angeles. She said. Yeah, and I said it's an hour flight. She goes no She was not unless you're on a fucking supersonic She said are you thinking about the Concord and I was like, God, I was like I should have booked the Concord It was the same price because I thought it was an hour flight and then I realized there's a time difference Yeah, there's a there's a pretty big one heading that way. Yeah Yeah, do that math man. Yeah, so Yeah, I'll get you a jack-and-off part. Yeah Yeah, so you're you're not staying with the rest of the cast you're staying in a mansion No, everybody's staying in different places. Oh for real. Yeah, Andrew Santino looks like he's living. It's goddamn best life He fucking loves golf. He loves golf He just texted me and fucking he texted me from a golf course yesterday Yeah, he's playing so much golf. He's the happiest man like and he's you know, he really is an amazing golfer He's so good. He's I went out and played with him. He's so good. Wait. How's your game compared to his? absolute Horse shit really yeah, but he's so good. He can also like coach you Yeah, yeah, we played a scramble for Netflix is a joke during the Netflix a joke festival for Will Ferrell's TV show the hawk We played a scramble and we won Did you yeah, or we came in maybe second place? But it was all his score. It was all his score Yeah, he's fantastic. We play with David Spade. David's play quit at eight holes Is he that bad? No, it's bad. He's got a bad back. Oh, oh, yeah No, apparently, I mean, I was talking to somebody who's known him a while and they're like oh 15 years ago He was just like so-so, but like he's really Santino. Yeah, are you shitting me? Yeah, they said like he was just like mediocre He's got a really he's got a really good game now. What sport do you think is the hardest to achieve greatness in? Meaning let's say okay, how about this let me remember what sport is the hardest to be massively proficient in meaning like other
people go, dude, he balls out at dot, dot, dot. Now, okay, I will let you know that if you're looking to become a professional in any sports, like looked into this, bowling is the easiest. Is it really? If you're looking to become a professional, bowling is easiest. Apparently, there's zero threshold to becoming as a professional boulder. You just need to just sponsor yourself. Well, just sheer numbers alone, because that's interesting. If you wanted to be, yeah, if you wanted to be in the NBA, that'd be real crazy. Okay, but let's just, let's just say proficient, meaning you go out in the court, like, you know, people go like Adam Sandler can ball, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's had years and years and years of playing basketball. Now, I'm certain at a certain age, it'll start declining and going the opposite direction. But like, to the point where like other, you get on the court or you throw a football or you hit a baseball or you golf or you tennis or you jog. What sport do you think it would be the easiest for you to be the most proficient at where everyone's like, no, he's actually really good. The way we talk about Santino and golf, like other pros would say Santino is a great golfer. Yeah. Cornhole. Yeah. I feel like you get somewhere not too, I wouldn't be too crazy if you dialed in. Got high. Cornhole or darts. What do you think you get better and quicker? For me, I think it'd be easier to do cornhole. Yeah. Yeah. I think cornhole would be, do you think if you focused and you dedicated a whole year, the same way Gina Davis did, you could become a Olympic archer. Do you remember Gina Davis did that? She did do that. Pull up the Olympics, Olympic, Olympic, summer Olympics. What do you think we could, we could focus my energy to get me in the Olympics for summer Olympics sports? Okay, we can, we can do it this way. Aquatics. No track and field. No, no, no, no. Yeah. None of the ball sports. No, combat sports. No, racket and precision. There we go. No, no, no. No, badminton. No, no, archery. Maybe archery. Are you talking about archery? Okay, keep going. Shooting. Cause you get to use a shooting shooting is something that I, I mean, here's the thing is I'm just qualifying all these people that spent their life shooting that are fucking amazing. Like we have to check off things that are absolutely now. Keep in shooting and archery. Okay, here's some new ones. By the way, by the way, hold on one second. Hold on. Cam Haines said I was the best first day archer he's ever seen in his entire life. So maybe that is for you. I'm paraphrasing, but yes. I mean, you're definitely not going to do skateboarding. No, not cricket. Break dancing. Break dancing. Did you watch the ray gun doc? It's genius. It's genius. Tom, because the, here's my take. Okay, I'm dying to hear you take. Basically, she's, she's in many ways, the, the victim of living in Australia and having enthusiasm about this type of dance, showing up, if she had showed up to the qualifiers in the Bronx, she wouldn't be in the top 1000. And because you have to pick people from different countries, she showed up where there's a smaller pool of people to pick from. And then they're like, yeah, it's the equivalent. I think it's the equivalent of you're the strongest guy in your gym, right? You go to like a small gym. And they're like, hey, you're the, you can, holy shit, you can deadlift 400. And you're like, yeah. And you go, you go to the, the, the lifting thing in Papa, New Guinea. And they're like, well, guess what? You're the strongest guy here. You're going to the Olympics. And then you go there and they're doing 1000 pounds. And they're like, what the fuck are you doing here? And you're like, I mean, they picked me. I don't know, dude. Like they just picked me and I like this. But they're like, you're not supposed to be, she should, she was never good enough to be high level. But by the, this mix of circumstances led her to being there. Like she just shouldn't be there. You know, I, can I say this though? So if, now all art is subjective, correct? Yeah. And if art is subjective, everyone's got a big dick in a certain room. That's what you're saying, right? No. No. Yeah. Well, no, no. If all art is subjective, and I would defend a lot of my critiques of, of movies or art or comedy this way, if all art is subjective. And the point of doing an art is to have people talk about it and reference it. You're looking at the gold and silver and bronze medalist who in that competition, no one knows their name. They all did roughly the same derivations of the same moves within different sequences. She did something completely out of the box, which stood out as an art form stood out and became the most talked about version of that art that we're all talking about. So I would argue subjectively, she was better than everyone because she stood out. She was the most memorable. Now, yes, stand up. If we are new fucking, if 10 of us go on stage and do stand up and I take a shit on the stage, that's one I remember. But when you talk about dancing, dancing is interpretive and it is, it is subjective and she stood out. She stood out. So why wouldn't she get the gold medal? Because she's the one we talked about. She did a kangaroo. She put her own thumbprint, Tom, like a child making a painting. She said, and I, because she goes, I can't compete with him. I'm not physical. I can't do any of their moves. I'm going to do a kangaroo and then roll it on the floor. It's so fucking brilliant. It's funny. It's like, it is all through the eyes of, of whoever's comment. Like her husband was like, it's the most fucking brilliant thing I've ever seen. Like he describes it like it's a masterpiece. Dude, and I got to tell you, I, we talked about, just to be like very vague, I commented on a movie I really liked and I liked it because it broke all the rules because it wasn't formulaic, AI derived screenplay. And, right. And, and I, it is the, her dance is the bus boys, the break dancing at the Olympics for sure. It's out of, they're like, what the fuck is going on? What is this? Her dance is the bus boys. It is. And I'm defending her dance the way I defend the bus boys is that is that it's so, man, it's so different that it becomes great in that, in that it doesn't follow any of the fucking rules, any of the rules. It's so insane. It's just looks like somebody who, they just saw some online and they're like, I like this kind of shit. I can do this. It's so good. It's so good. The person, the person watching is dancing better than she is, but it's so good because it's like, it's like watching your child in the living room, but she is, she has like, she has no swag, like no real swag, you know, like, they mocked her for her outfit because like, it looks, it looks sprinkler. She did this sprinkler. She did. She was like, this is Australia. She was right. It was, it is Australian. Now, look at this. Why don't you want to see what hack is? Look at this. Yeah. Yeah. Someone taught me this. I know this move. This is hacky. Yeah. This is what I've seen other people do. I didn't create this. I watched someone do this and I'm replicating it. These are all moves. I'm replicating from based off of other people coming up with this move and the day you come up with a move, I bet you look silly to everyone. But then you become standard and you become base headspin. Come on, man. We watch Michael Jackson do that with Alfonso Ribeiro in 1982. What are we doing? Yeah. And then go back to fuck. I guarantee you in 10 years, they're dancing like Ray Gunn. It's so looking at her. She's so confident. She that confidence is something I look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Kangaroo when she got dusted by someone, she went like she would yawn. Yeah. I'm bored. She gets smoked. I mean, listen, and you can hate my take, but just try, just try for a second. If you're listening to me going, you're out of your mind, Bert, take a second and try to see the other side of the fence. That's the beauty of life is, I think I love that. The chin, grab our kangaroo. Kangaroo. I love that. She really put her thumbprint on it. Australia, baby. I did the kangaroo. Yeah. That's so crazy. It's like, it's like you ever seen like, like, there's like, you know, some people say Andrew Dice Clay's best album is the day the music died or the day the live. I don't know if people know what that is though. You should check it out. And it's like, and before you, before you, this is all I'll say. And by the way, I would argue I fall into this category. Before you think the same way the masses think, take a second. Don't read a comment.
read anything. Don't go to your knee, just take a step back and let it sit with you and see how do I feel about it? Like how do, like, you know, how do I feel about it? And when I watched Ray Gunn initially, I was like, this is silly. It's crazy. It's so stupid. And then when I watched that doc, I, I was like, you know, man, with AI coming out, if you typed in AI break dancing moves, you'd come out with a lot of the people that did exactly what they did. You would never come up with AI saying you should dance like a kangaroo and then a koala and then lay on the ground and run in certain, like AI would, and if we're going up against AI these days, that's what creativity should look like. I mean, it's creative. It's, I mean, I think what it is is it's a creative choice for somebody that has the limitations they have. So it's like, if you were in, you know, a contest where you had to paint and you were going again, and you were painting a gangster and you made your choices like stop right there. Hang on. Do you understand that that's the reason we got Jackson Pollock? I mean, this is a theory, obviously, but the reason we got Jackson Pollock is because there were so many great European Russian painters and we didn't have one. So we took Jackson Pollock. This is obviously a little bit conspiracy theory. We took Jackson Pollock and then we priced up his paintings to say they were genius. Jackson Pollock, I mean, for all types of purposes, just through paint at a thing, right? He was an alcoholic who threw paint at a thing. That's it. We all can do it. Everyone can do it. I mean, theoretically, everyone can do it. However, we priced it up. It's the whole thing about cryptocurrency and NF, NFTs and all of that. We determine what the art is. The second we decide that it's art, it becomes art and why not us collectively, NFT, the fuck out of that lady and make that dance. That is the weird thing about this is that all art is subjective. Jackson Pollock should have died alone. No one knowing who he was, but because we needed to fight the fucking communist, we created Jackson Pollock. Google it. Someone fucking Google it. I know that. That's a wild wild. You never heard that? No. Oh, by the way, let me tell you that the pastor's husband, the pastor did nothing. Jackson Pollock was a shill and Ray Gunn's a genius. And by the way, check out Boss Boys. There you go. Check it out. Please give me that Bible, dude. I'm going to get you the Bible for, for by the way, in arguably the best director of our entire times, in arguably, no one can question how great Christopher Nolan is. And I will get that to you. Hey, have fun tomorrow on your first day of filming. I love you. I hope you have a blast. And I will see you soon. Okay, I'll talk to you soon, bro. Bye.
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Key Points:
The speaker criticizes documentaries that present one-sided narratives by excluding interviews with the subject, such as the pastor’s wife doc, which frames the story solely through the lens of the second wife’s family.
He highlights how media manipulates narratives—like shaping the perception that he disapproved of Ant due to a false implication about his sexuality—demonstrating how content creators can misrepresent individuals without consent.
The conversation explores the broader issue of misinformation and misrepresentation in media, with examples from reality TV, documentaries, and online content, emphasizing that people often lack control over how their words are used out of context.
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The transcript explores how media, especially documentaries and reality shows, often misrepresents individuals by using selective clips and one-sided perspectives without interviewing the subject. The speaker criticizes the pastor’s wife documentary for not interviewing the pastor, instead relying solely on the family’s account and distorted sermons to build a narrative. He points out how such media manipulates public perception—like falsely portraying his dislike of Ant due to a misinterpreted comment—demonstrating a pattern where people are misrepresented without accountability.
The discussion extends to broader issues of truth, narrative control, and emotional impact, with the speaker noting that he's deeply affected by these distortions, especially during therapy, where he grapples with feelings of being misunderstood and misrepresented. He also references how people like Bryson D. Shembo reclaim their narratives through authenticity and public challenges, contrasting with media-driven attacks.
The conversation underscores the danger of unchecked storytelling, where audiences are fed incomplete truths and feel powerless. The speaker reflects on personal experiences, including therapy and media exposure, to argue that true understanding requires transparency, balance, and accountability. He warns that without these, public narratives become weaponized, and individuals are left vulnerable to false impressions.
The tone is critical yet reflective, emphasizing the need for media to represent complex realities, not just simplify them for entertainment.
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The documentary tells the story of a pastor who cheats on his first wife with another woman who is already married. The wife, who is the second wife, suffers a mental breakdown and ultimately takes her own life. The film is largely told from her family's perspective and uses only excerpts of the pastor's sermons, without interviewing him directly.
The speaker feels deeply upset when people misrepresent him or others without context, especially when content is taken out of context. He believes that skilled documentary makers can shape narratives to create false impressions and that it's important to recognize that media often presents only one side of a story.
The speaker argues that in real-life situations, such as the suicide of the pastor's wife, there is no true 'two sides'—one side is the victim's story, and the other is the accused's. He emphasizes that documentaries often omit crucial context and emotional depth, leading to a one-sided narrative.
The speaker recounts how a documentary falsely portrayed him as hating Ant because he was gay, when in reality he never said that and didn’t have a negative opinion of Ant’s lifestyle choice.
The speaker believes that social media and media have made it easy for anyone to misrepresent someone, often without consequences. He notes that people can be misrepresented without repercussions, and that it’s difficult to fight back without knowing the full story.
He finds the non-linear storytelling of 'Tenet' extremely challenging, stating that it's hard to follow and that he feels like a 'moron' watching it. However, he acknowledges the film’s creative brilliance and complexity, even if he doesn’t fully understand it.
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