Rap Your Age

Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Yep, y'all the main guy, Andrew Shoe, y'all the brand Idiot podcast, back for another week of brilliant Idiot Nisvio got a pre-com. We do, we do, we do, we do, we do. Give me some pre-com, man. Give me some pre-com right now, man. Oh, crazy. I don't even know if we can start to talk like that. What you mean? Okay, okay, okay. Okay, we already did the pre-com, that's over. I keep, bram bram bram bram bram, I have a kind of walker. What's good, man? How was your week, your weekend? I broke my nose this morning, bro. What? Doing what? It's my week break. Son. God damn. How the fuck that happened, man. I don't know. What a ball hit you in the face? No, no, I put down. I put down? No, I slipped and then like the racket is a tether to your arm and the racket kind of like, I tried to throw the racket away, but it kind of just like stood there and I just, or it just bounced off the ground and smacked me right back in my leg. Do you think if your nose was smaller, would it have been more a hit? I've thought about this. It's like, currently it's at capacity, so I don't know where L-sick can go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, I just hope it's not jacked up on this as well. It do look fucked up. We're like right here? Yeah, it looked fucked up, right? Yes, absolutely. Is that swollen or what? I don't know. It looks fucked up. I don't know if it was fucked up until you said something. That's the thing. The perception is a motherfucker, you know? Now you see it. I mean, I saw it at first, but I'm thinking, okay, that could be sunburned or something like that. But damn. Is it hurt? Yeah, it hurts a little. I didn't even know I hit my nose. I thought I hit my forehead because that's a hurt immediately afterwards. And then I started looking and I was like, why is there all this wretched? I hit it on, this is why I think I'm worried it's broken. I hit it on this side. Yeah. But this side is black and blue. You got to go to the doctor, bro. I know. Why are you afraid of the doctor, man? I'm not. I called him. I'm like, yo, let me come in there. If your nose is broken and shit you can do anyway. What you gonna do walking around on a fucking face mask? That's the other thing. I don't want it. It's none you can do. So what I do, I just let it be like that. Let it be like that. You got to broke nose. Tell people you fucking participate in underground fight clubs and some shit like that. You know what I mean? Some free crowd. Get some motherfuckin' street crowd out here. Did you see Michael Jackson's movie? Not yet, man. Me neither. But I'm going this weekend. I saw Rizzas. You were going hard. That is instant classic for me. That is already in one of my most greatest movies that's ever been made. To me. Yeah. It's one of my personal favorite movies that I've ever seen in my motherfucking life. Number one, first of all, and then you could, this is documented. For years, I have been saying I would like to see Quentin Tarantino. Do a thriller, crime, drama based on Rayquan's purple tape. Oh, wow. So I've always felt that there was some type of synergy, energy between Quentin Tarantino and the Wu-Tang Clan. Yeah. Yeah. So, the sequel Tarantino, do this movie that Rizzas produced, directed, wrote, and funded himself. Yeah. The sequel Tarantino presents this and see all the little elements of Quentin Tarantino in the movie, that Rizzas wrote, because Rizzas also a fan of Quentin Tarantino. So there was little elements that he put in the movie that, you know, you, like I give you an example without giving too much away. Think about Pope fiction. You never saw what was in the briefcase. But the guy on the bus that gives you the book opens the briefcase and you see what was in the briefcase was the book. Later on in the movie, when you need opens up the book, the book glows. Remember how in Pope fiction is open to briefcase? So it's like little small elements like that, you're like, oh, and you had to get Quentin's blessing. Of course. But put that in the movie, but for me personally, instant classic, bro. Yeah. I watch it. I liked it, man. I mean, I just think Rizzas, like amazing. He came on the part this week, by the way. I saw. Literally one of the most incredible conversations I've ever had with a human being. He's a mastermind. I mean that. Do you understand what, do you understand what Rizzas did with Wu Tang clan is virtually impossible? Impossible. I'm going to take nine people, convinced them to be in a group, then I'm going to take those nine individuals and make them all solo stars and take them to various different record labels. It's like the Rothschild, with banking, like he did it with rat, like also just him planting the seeds that have grown throughout the, just the music community. There are a lot of people that are like eating fruit off of his tree that don't even know that it's his tree. There's never been another Rizzas. You do realize that, right? Yeah. Like you know, some people are so great. They can be duplicated by somebody. Yeah. Rizzas was so one of a kind, nobody can even duplicate what he, like Kanye's production style comes from Rizzas. Yeah. The sampling, but he even heating specifically how he sampled, speeding things up, pitching things up, and their limitations that they had in producing that made them do that. Like he was talking about the systems they were using and it kind of forced them to create these certain sounds. Like, oh, I was just crazy. If Rizzas hadn't had, you know, there was a flood of his house or something and he lost tons and tons of music. If he doesn't lose that next wave of, of Wu Tang music, we're having a completely different conversation about Rizzas all the time. Oh, really? Absolutely. Like we're having a conversation about Rizzas, where we have conversations about Dr. Dre. Wow. To me. Yeah. Like that's just how highly I look at Rizzas. Bro, he said the craziest ODB stories, too. You know, the movie is, but you know, the character unique, he said he based off ODB's energy. Because that was ODB's alias, a song unique. So he said this character has a lot of ODB energy. Energy in it. Yeah. Yeah. Did he tell you the story about when he used a paper towel as a condom? No. The fuck? Oh, ODB? Yeah. Oh, I think I've heard that one before, but I had a long time. When he took the car, I don't remember. Like the story in the movie without giving too much away where like, so ODB's like, he asked for a car because he got to go out and get some shit. Also the way Rizzas tells stories is like fantastic, but like none of them had licenses. So they just got all these cars. New Yorkers, typical New Yorkers. They're in like this. I think this is a standout. They're in this like house, but it's in the woods. It's crazy to think that like a place in New York City got woods, but I guess standout I got woods. And there's like a half mile driveway, so they're like kind of deep. ODB asks for a car because he got to do some shit, drives out, crashes that shit, comes back. Yo, I need another car. Guess another car drives out, crashes that shit, comes back, yo, I need another car. He's on the BQE. I think I might be converging to stories on the BQE, right, with another buddy of his. And he's driving flips the car on the BQE. That's where it inspired the scene where the car gets flipped and then it gets upside down. He gets out the car, starts walking on the BQE. His buddy's still in the car. I can just crazy, yeah, and he just, where's this thing, he's just like, yo, this guy's just like radical freedom. It's free will personified. Like what would you do if you were completely free? There's only, I never met ODB, but I feel like there's only three people I've ever met like that in my life. That have that energy. I've never, but I see ODB's energy from afar. DMX. Yeah. Radical fucking freedom. Radical freedom. Him and ODB would have absolutely been probably the best of friends. And you remember Shane Gandhi from fucking Bucklock, man, Shane Gandhi Radical freedom. What is the cost of radical freedom, man? Short lives. Your name three people are no longer with them. But I think people like that aren't supposed to be here long. I really feel that way. I really feel that type of energy isn't supposed to be here long. Yeah. It's actually, man, when you talk about people being from other planets and really just passing through that type of spirit probably passes through to different dimensions, quite frequent and doesn't stay long in any of them. It's too boring. I have to fucking bore for ODB. I have to bore for DMX. I have to bore for Shane Gandhi. Good time. Not a long time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hey, I was so crazy, my guy Alex Ava and Ava is never stayed me wrong, by the way. That's Clarence Ava son, Rest and Peace Clarence Ava. He hit me a couple of weeks ago and was like, yo, you know, Riz and I want you to see this movie. They wanted me to come out somewhere, but I couldn't make it so they ended up sending me a screening. And I didn't watch it. But you know, somebody is on you like texting you like, yo, because they could tell if you watched. Yes. Have you seen, have you watched the movie yet? I was like, yeah, let me watch the movie. I'm like, I hate that. I'm going on the plane yesterday. I was like, yeah, let me watch the movie, which was ironic because when I finally opened it up for my screening, it was expiring at 1159 that night. Yeah. You know, I'm watching it on the plane screaming, bro. Because I had the headphones on. - So I'm like, "Yo, 'cause it takes you through such a range of emotions, but that last 30 minutes." - Kinda crazy. - Oh my god, man, I can't even tell y'all the reasons I love this movie and tell y'all see it. - Well, it's not giving out too much of what's the basic plot. - A war veteran, a war veteran who goes to prison when he comes home, but what you realize early in the movie, he's actually in prison because he helps people, right? Not because he's some type of criminal because he ended up helping people in a couple of situations. And it was a guy beating up his wife and he fed her and he fucked up the guy and so they locked him up. - Then he beat up somebody in jail who was a bully, right? So yeah, so you guys let out, he goes back to, like, I guess, his hometown in Ohio because he has a two-foot probation. - Yeah. - So you have to go back to Ohio, and then it's just like a racist gang in Ohio. - Don't say, don't tell him everything, but that's this right up in the beginning here. - I guess, if you see the trailer, you might see that. Yeah, the trailer is just like Quentin Tarantino. - I live Quentin Tarantino. - Quentin Tarantino. - No, he's Quentin Tarantino presented. So you can assume there's some white people dropping his face. - Lot of good. I won't say that's the only thing could have been better. They relied on, like, they should have urban dictionary more racial slurs. - Oh. - That word, "Koon" at least, I lose this luster after awhile. - It was really only one. - Not, but then you could be creative is what I'm saying. - But I don't think idiots are creative. - That's true. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Because it's specific, right? - Like, what it takes to be racist. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, it does not allow for much creativity. - And I liked it because it wasn't necessarily, it was political without being political. - Yeah. That, the only thing for me was like, how realistic is it that there are these people that are, like, openly racist to this level in a town in modern America? - Well, we don't know if it was modern. - That's a good point. - You don't know what time period it takes. - Yeah, well, are there any cell phones in it, right? - No. - That's true. - Everybody's gonna pay phones. Even, like, they got the old-school sobs. Like, I was even trying to figure out about a video game they was playing. But I'm, like, on a video game, you see, it's Vince Carter playing against Magic Johnson. - Oh, yeah. - And I've never seen that game. - And the game is a different type of game, so it could exist in whatever time period. - Okay. - It's like a old school, it looked like an old school in the town of love. - The town of love. - Power club, but it looked more recent. - I didn't know, you don't know what time for it, isn't it? - Then I could go, I could suspend disbelief for a different time period. - And I asked Rizzo about that and Rizzo said he did that on purpose. - 'Cause he wanted the movie to be time. - Yeah, so he said it was a cinematic decision because he wanted you to, like, just for example, like, there are, you see, like, certain civil rights and stuff getting rolled back now, right? And I, you can hear, you'll talk to somebody like Jim Clyburn, who's been around for a long time. And he'll tell you his concern is exactly that. - Right. - Like, what happened in this movie, his concern is things like that happening. And so it's like, you don't know if it was, if this movie happened yesterday, you don't know if this is going to be the future. - Right. - You know what I mean? Like, you know, Regal Jackson's kid, isn't it? - Yo, Michael wants us to be back in the box office, you know? Michael's spirit clearly wants us to be back in movie theaters, yo. He was, his movie came out last week, broke all type of records. Now, Paris Jackson is in a movie this weekend. - Michael is invincible. - Come on, man. - And inevitable. - What they don't say in the adventure of the game, I am inevitable. - I am inevitable. - Michael really snapped in one, bro. - Holy shit. - They didn't know going back, trying to fucking, you know, get the time stones and recreate, recreate time with Michael. - I don't give a fuck, people don't even care about the allegations, they took the allegations out the movie. They edited it. - Why not? - Well, yes. - No, they had it in there. - Because the legal reasons. - The family was like, listen, you want us to sign off on this shit, you got to take it out. They take it out? - No, it was another reason. It was something, it was the story they wanted to tell. They signed something with the family back in the day that literally said they can't recreate this in any TV or movie. So with the family of one of the accusers, yeah, that was it. I heard different. - But that's fine. - The story came out. It was, it was, it was the family's, man, let me look it up. Why were, but they still might show you that in the next movie, but they say there's going to be another movie. - Where does it end? - 88. - It's a 88. I haven't seen it either, but they say 88. - That's the victory tour? - Right, right before, and they literally say, at the end of the movie, Michael's story will continue. That's why I don't understand everybody's so mad. - Actually, I think victory was like 84. - Well, in the 88, they say, why weren't allegations? - So here's the question. Let's do the Michael fans want that part of the story. - Hold on, let me, let me say this part real quick. Michael did not include child sexual abuse allegations primarily due to a legal settlement clause that barred the depiction of specific accusers coupled with a production decision in the film's timeline in 1988. Now, to answer your question, I only want them if they tell me one story, the truth. Tell me how he was investigated by the FBI for 17 years and they didn't find anything. - They like his music too. - You know what I'm saying? - You think people in the FBI don't like Michael Jackson? - You have been investigated for 17 years, and you did it in kids, you're going to find some diddling, bro. - Bro? - Michael ain't even in the Epstein files. - Son, he's above it. - The Epstein files was a cover band, you know what I mean? Like compared to that, like how many fucking priests from Boston are in Epstein files? Just because you're not in files doesn't mean that there isn't some bad shit out there. - That's the solid point. That's the solid point. I don't think here's my thing. I don't think Michael Jackson never touched no kid, bro. I think Michael is a kid. - I feel that way too when I listen to his music. - No. I think Michael is a kid who never had a childhood and you know, let me tell you how fucked up the plan it is. I'm glad we're having this conversation. The plan it is so fucked up that if somebody is out here actually doing good, if somebody is out here actually doing the right thing, we look at it and be like, oh, that's fucked up. That's fine. He got to be doing some files. - We do feel that way. But we feel that way with all success. It's like the second you have success, people are trying to tear you down. That's just like a natural humidity. - And he had a different level of success. - There's an argument that nobody in history has been as famous. - That's a different person, the guy that Chris doesn't believe in. - He wasn't famous back then. Damn. Ooh, so he got more famous after the fact that nobody knew him back in a day. - No historical, one historical reference at the time, a Jewish writer by the name of Josephus mentioned him once. That's the only contemporary record he's written. - What you're trying to say over there, man? - What we talk about the truth a couple of minutes ago. - We're trying to say over there. Michael Jackson, you don't think that they was doing propaganda back then too? - You think they erased him? - Some propaganda back then too. - Well, you know. - Would you write about the guy that was calling you out in your shit? Like does America, when we write our history books, call ourselves out? - Oh, we know the winner's right history. - That's what I'm saying. - And he was a loser in the moment. - Exactly. So why would you write him into it? - It's a fair point. Michael Jackson is the most famous person I've ever lived because there's nobody on this planet who doesn't believe in Michael Jackson. Chris don't even believe in Michael Jackson versus Jordan. - No, it's not even. - Guys, guys, guys. - I think it is close. - Michael Jordan fainted me, Michael Jackson. - He probably did. - He probably did. - They probably had to cool him off before they did that jam video, right? Remember this is a jam video? When Michael Jordan was playing against Michael Jackson, 101, Michael Jordan probably had to take a couple of deep breaths before he met Michael. - Bro, you don't think it's a conversation. Jordan. - No. - Think about the sneakers. Forget about just the place. - Chris, Chris, Chris. You don't think that the rest of the NBA, for a kind of Olympic team or whatever it is, the dream team, you don't think that they were being stopped in the street in Spain and they were asking them if they were Michael Jordan? Like, they don't know. They're from Spain. They just see a thought black out. They're like, "Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan, look, it's Michael Jordan." They don't know. Nobody is question whether or not they see Michael Jackson. Nobody ever met Michael Jordan, it's fainted that we know of. - They faint watching the movie. It's not even him. - Now, I will say this. I will say this. Michael had people getting robbed for his sneakers, but not because of him, but because the sneakers were so fight. - No, it was because of him. - No, the sneakers was fired. - If MJ put out a sneaker, people would be robbing him for that. - If it was fired. - Come on, bro. - If it was fired, bro. - People sent their kids to his house after the alligator. - But they stayed. - Like, what are we talking about? - They don't understand purity. They knew that this man was not guilty of what he was being accused of. - Let me ask you a question. - And, let me ask you a question, if you were really didn't like kids, right? - I didn't see. - And he was didn't like me. - No, I'm saying, if you were and then you got accused of it, would you still have kids at your house? - After the fact? - Of course, yeah. - I mean, Epstein still went to the island after the alligator. He said he had to the first one after he was convicted. - You did? - Yeah, that's when the island popped off. - That shit. - He didn't have to go to an island before. - Yeah. - He didn't hurt me. - Again, I'm not saying it happened. - I don't think Michael touched him, kid. Your parents buy you some Jordans. - Yes. - Right? - Well, luckily, because they're expensive. - Yeah, yeah. - You get robbed for the Jordans. - Yeah. - They buy you more Jordans? - No. - Never again. - But that's because of danger. They think that your life is in danger. That's my point. - My point is they sent their kids back. to the red they knew it was no danger how can they felt it in the spirit you would I don't know no the way my anxiety is set up like you know me I can think the best but my anxiety the way my anxiety set up will make me always lean into the world hey hey hey Mike I believe you I don't think Mike but my anxiety you know you burn up and I also want to say if you're going to put this in the movie you have to show me how he put and it wasn't even a finesse he learned the business of the music industry and had the resources in the capital to get things done and he got it done he bought the white people he bought the white people he bought the Beatles catalog and original whites yes he bought like British after learning from Paul McCartney after Paul McCartney putting them on the game thanks about what what he should do he literally bought the Beatles catalog it was so valuable that Sony was like yo let's create a company give you half of all Sony's publishing bro like and he was taking some of that publishing and giving it back to artists like that was a different level of power for one human to have Paul McCartney was so humbled by that experience he married a woman with one leg damn no man married a one-legged woman but he's gonna take over hip-hop somehow hard come on fucking take over hip-hop somehow or another find me a one-legged woman so I can take over hip-hop that's what that was bro I think she beat him in a divorce too she got like hundreds of millions from into the into the divorce damn yeah wow in that crazy that's crazy think she'd get like 75% or something she had a leg up on him and divorce how the fuck did that happen what the fuck happened yo bro you married a woman with one leg that's crazy didn't make your son a prenup easy he's probably like she ain't running anywhere man she ain't going no fun ain't going no motherfucking where I can't beat me and no divorce if you can only stand five toes down you're gonna need all 10 you're gonna need all 10 fucking take me out if I'm Paul McCartney with hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars you got your fucking mind what oh no listen show me that in the movie yo show me how much of a business man Mike what Mike was gonna buy Marvel at one point do you realize that Mike was going to buy Marvel just so he could play Spider-Man hours to do a universe of I mean a channel the part of the Marvel channel can be not only the Marvel characters but Marvel films like the catalogs could do anything we want from restaurants to retail theme park dude he did can I say this yeah I can say this yes um he didn't want to play Spider-Man in the movie no I'm being dead serious right now okay this is this is like I can't say who I heard this from but he wanted to play Professor X and he came in and I think auditioned as Professor X and Janet wanted to play Storm wow and then the studio had you can't say no when Michael fucking Jackson and Janet want to play characters in a movie wow so I think they had to indulge it listen I'm looking at Michael Jackson attempted to purchase Marvel comics in the 1990s a move confirmed by Stan Lee Michael was a huge fan of the comics and he sought to buy the struggling company primarily to fulfill his ambition of playing Spider-Man in a live action movie the deal did not come to fruition however and the attempt will shut down there's actually a look to see if he does a phone call look to see if he if tried to play for Professor X Michael Jackson wanted to play but you got there from I can I can't believe it but I can't tell you I believe listen I believe you that would have been fire oh yeah during casting for X-Men 2000 Michael Jackson asked Brian Singer if he could play as Professor X which made the producer Lauren Sheller Donner respond do you know Xavier is an older white guy oh yeah Michael Jackson auditioned to be X-Men Professor X growing storm and Janet wants to be storm it is weird though he just he wanted to be the guy who has like a school for gifted kids I knew it was going to win no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no the adults are the teacher I knew it was going to win that's saying I knew it was going to make this up though I knew it was the true thing oh well she's looking up now no I'm just looking up the Beatles publishing thing because I want I we by the way we had this conversation on here long before fucking this movie yet in 1985 Michael Jackson purchased the ATV music publishing catalog for so they didn't include it in the movie million it didn't include it of course it should have been right in 85 they should have had that in there it should have acquiring the rights over 250 Beatles songs Jackson bought the catalog against the advice of Paul McCartney who had previously advised them to invest in publishing leading to a rift in their friendship the catalog served as a massive financial asset later merging with Sony to become Sony ATV you know how much power that is bro put allegations on this guy man this guy got to point in the name no not you don't get point that way well put allegations on this guy he got too much power we got to slow him the hundred percent y'all all of that whole Bill Cosby was trying to buy NBC no Michael Jackson was trying to try to he had it he had it and then he was using that capital to go buy fucking Marvel bro matter of fact if you don't if you are successful and don't have allegations somethings you might not be that successful or they might got something on you i'm a hair in that man i don't like that i don't like that rhetoric don't you dare starve me i don't don't you starve me i don't like the red i don't like i don't like that where you texted me this week don't you dare start with it when you texted me this this exact rhetoric they got yo what they got on your boy you got caught by a AI image right and he's like yo what they got on your boy you on this rhetoric what are you talking about you say what they're following your boy you right you're not gonna say who my boy is you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right i'm incredibly famous i couldn't believe it i couldn't believe i was like yeah what they got on your boy who is something you would never imagine and doing and it's so clearly an AI image she was like you showed us not AI and then she's telling what he said i need to go back and look i was like you know what you're probably fucking right i just as soon as he said it it just dawned on me like you know what it is fucking probably AI it wasn't even over you need to go back and look at the picture that's why i don't want to live in this world for the AI shit man i know oh my god but that's how they desensitize us to everything i yes right yes you don't believe nothing if you got a question everything exactly and then when you do see something that is true you already seen so many things that are fake that you're like that are insane that you're like it is what it is you just you just move right on that's why the great disconnect is coming i'm telling you yeah i see it i was a this weekend i was everywhere i i had to go how was that the what's going to festival like that festival was incredible i feel like this was this was the best year yet like we've always you know it's always a couple thousand people there but this was the best year yet this felt the most height from the way you guys that like this felt like exactly the dots connected culturally and uh come up uh corporately i also saw like a lot of creators talking about it like not people who are there but like people that's right not people who are doing shows people who they're watching it yes and 100 percent i felt the same way it was like oh okay fine the dots connected culturally yeah you know what i'm saying and by the way the the last four years have been amazing but it it almost felt like it feels like a brand new this podcast right and what i mean by that we've been doing this for 13 14 years now best i guess the best kept secret but didn't when it starts to get out people like you know shall we name Andrew the podcast or it felt like that this year we've been doing this for the last four years same place same time in Atlanta but this year was just like yo and then people just the last year was like the first year people just was like randomly pulling up like like not just i'm talking about like people who want to see the show but like you know like i guess influencers and celebrities and stuff like that and this year was the same thing you know what i mean like chairlander would just popped up from nowhere you do ball in there do ball just popped up you know what i mean yeah well Clarissa Shills and Papu's just popped up yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like it was just it was a good it was came um Michael Biven's from new edition wow just oh really he just he was in the crowd he was sitting in the art he's just enjoying it he was just like yo i just wanted to see it he's like you to listen to podcast that exactly he was just like y'all keep hearing about black effect and podcast he's like i just i wanted to see and feel what a podcast festival was yeah and he was like i get it i see it now i tell you one thing though advertise it still don't get it bro just let them that that there was i'm not even joking there was there was about 15 representatives from various companies at the podcast festival no need to name where they are but i'm talking about major retail big big big grand big grand they literally still don't quite understand the world of podcast what do you mean by that meaning that they're like so there's no music here like all of these people are here just to listen to people talk yeah yeah that is the the the the that is the habit podcast have become and it was interesting because i went from the podcast festival to Orlando for my daughter the shielding competition then i had to go to Miami put up for the possible conference in the possible conference is basically a big conference for advertisers and media and me and Bob Pittman was on the panel, you know, Bob had the podcast called "Map and Magic." So I was a guest on this podcast and it was the same thing having that conversation with advertisers like, like, stop worrying about brand safety, you know, and just look at these podcasts, see the audience, these podcasts, they're garnering, and put your product in front of these people. Stop thinking you know more than the audience, don't tell the audience that what they like isn't safe. I think it's an age thing, man. Talk to me. I just think that, like, eventually the execs retire and then the new younger generation that consumes the contents of the generation come in and they start making those decisions. And then the scrappier businesses that are already online, they have to be more competitive. Like Nike don't got to be competitive, it's Nike, you know, Walmart doesn't have to be competitive, it's Walmart, but like the young scrappy businesses, they have to go with the people are, so they hit the internet first, they'll hit the podcast, they'll hit YouTube shows, they'll do all that kind of stuff. But once the elite execs from these institutions retire and you have a kid who's been working there for 15 years, but he's 35 now or he's 40. He's been listening to podcasts for the last 10 years, he knows that's where he's been going into these meetings and pitching them and never been able to actually like stamp what he believes is the future. I still think Nike and Walmart and those brands like that, they are established brands that are usually grandfathered in, but I do think, thank you, but I do think that they still have to be competitive in the sense that they have to meet people where they are. Oh, you're right. 100%. I'm just saying, like, those brands are managed by a guy who's probably in his 60s and he's making like the highest level decisions. Yeah, he's like putting on a view and it's like in his mind, that's what works. Yeah. And then when you tell him, no, no, there's just do Charlotte and there's do shows and they basically try to get each other to admit that they suck dick for two hours every week, but they got a loyal audience of four million people a month that are tuning into their podcasts. They're not. 13 years, because they're not even understanding what else is going on. Like, again, this is, but I promise you, in the next five years, you just see it happen. Less. Second. Less. Two years you see it happen. It's already happened. I'm very clear. Like, it's happened. Think about all the actors that in this promo run for their movies have come on podcast. Yeah. All the TV stars, all the sudden that completely avoided podcasts. Like the people that they might have done traditional radio, but that's where it stopped. Yeah. They'll go on the view they'll do these little, like, junkets. Now all of them are coming on podcasts to promote their films because they know where the people are. Yeah. And if you're one of those big brands and you're still just promoting on the traditional platforms, you realize you're not getting the bank for your book. Not at all. You're not getting the bank for your book. So, in my way, I think you should do a little bit of it all. I think you should spend a little bit of it on traditional. I think you should spend a little bit of it on digital, spend a little bit of it on podcast. Like spread it around. Like, you gotta meet people where they are. There's audiences everywhere. That's my only point. Like, everything is so fragmented. But fragmented nowadays is literally this place over here might have tens of millions. And you may have never heard of them. Spend a little bit of money everywhere. You know what we're not far off from? What? And like, I don't think the general public is like aware of the shit they're starting to become a little bit more. But like, these like clip farming armies? Oh, yeah. Like, I think we're not far off from big brands going instead of advertising on places. I'm going to hire a clip farm army to just make generic content. It's kind of about the products or the product is kind of included in. Not like a guy with a face of the camera. But like, you see a Coca-Cola being drank in a famous movie from back of the day. And what the clip farming armies do is they can trick the algorithm and trick people into thinking something's hotter than it is because they're inescapable. And then once something is inescapable, you assume it's hot. And if it actually is good, then it can rise to the top. And like, you saw this happen in music with the bots. Like, you take a great artist and then you bot the song and you go from a number three hits to a number one hit. You can't do it with a trash artist. But I wonder, like, because the average person on the internet right now that has like a real job and real responsibilities and kids as shit, they're not looking at the content they're seeing being like, oh, this is all clip farm shit to make me think that this is a big thing. When that is the majority of the internet right now, I think they notice it now, you know? Maybe they do, but like, my, my mom or my wife or something like that who's just not chronically online. Chronically online people like us, CVs, friends. If you're not chronically online, you just see a person pop up six or seven times on your phone. Back in the day, that's how it used to be now a lot of it is manufactured. But you think it's like a hard branded thing or a soft branded thing? It's soft branded. So you don't really feel it. You don't even, it doesn't even come from like, like, this is something I saw that was crazy. When HBO was promoting their newest Game of Thrones thing, they just had editors make Game of Thrones edits from past ship Game of Thrones that was out 10 years ago. Mm-hmm. And it just galvanized the interest. They took these, like, I can't. The nostalgia. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you're like, wait, there's a new Game of Thrones world I could be in. That sounds good. That is, you could argue more effective, seeing four or five of those is more effective than having the new lead character in the show go, hey, come watch my show. Yo, shows, what you're saying is so true because I was thinking about this with music, right? If you're an artist who has catalog, if you, you know, start feeding me little pieces of nostalgia, it just makes me want to experience whatever it is you're giving me. So now I'm like, I do want a new JZM. Like, that's where I think, like, that's what Drake should be doing, even with Iceman, right? Like, the hype is there. But yo, this guy is, if you've been around for more than a decade, the last year or so when everybody was like, yo, I miss Drake, I miss Drake, start feeding them little bits in nostalgia. You'd be like, yeah, you'll remember that some but that is going to be happening. That's probably already happening. And like, we might notice it when it comes up through certain like Instagram pages, which are like more direct. You go, okay, this page really loves Drake, you know, huge fan for decades, blah, blah. That's direct. Like, you could see the, the chain. The way where it's really subversive is when the account got nothing to do with it. It could be a made up account, but it's pumping stuff out. And now you don't see stuff from the people you follow. The algorithm gives you what you see based on your interests and you can just make it inescapable. And I think you're going to see that with movies, watch, watch once they start production on like a new fucking or it already happened with Dune, right? They announced the trailer for Dune, leading up to the trailer for Dune. You saw all these edits of the past two Dune movies and how sick they were. These awesome scenes and you start going, oh shit, Dune was fire. Then they dropped the trailer for Dune 3 and you're like, I gotta see it. Marbles putting out in-game again, they're re-releasing in-game with new scenes. I promise you, before that comes out, you will see the internet populated if they're smart by tons of great fucking avengers. They're doing that now. Exactly. And here's the crazy thing. You could, what's called Astro turrets, you could get the clip farmers to do it. And then once people see that there's views in it, they'll organically do it for free. Other people. Because they're like, oh, this is trending right now. Let me get this set. Let me just out. It's a, man, it is a very, very interesting time. Another conversation we had that possible, they were asking me what do I think an influence it is. And I said, an influence is somebody who's not giving me performative, you know, influencing. Meaning like, meaning like, you know, genuinely cares about the thing that they're talking about. And no matter if you have five million followers, if I know, hi guys. This right here is Poland spring, you know, like, like, if you're doing that, that's not going to sell me. But it might be a guy that got 3000 followers, who's actually on there fucking up some Poland spring. I mean, drinking that shit deep throat in the motherfucking bottle, hitting that shit with the basket weave. I'm like, I need to try some of that motherfucking water. Our call is guy for head, one of the two, either way, what he's promoting has got me. Like to me, an influencer is somebody who actually cares about what it is they're talking about. No, really, nobody asked me to promote that movie. You love it. They sent it to me. They kept asking me to watch it. I watched it. I loved it. I wanted to share that with people. I wanted people to feel what I felt. I don't want to be alone in my feelings, not when it comes to art. Yeah. There's a lot of things I don't give a fuck about. I don't need you to like something for me to like it, but this was so good. I want to talk about it. Yeah. Good book. Are you see a good TV show? Are you experienced good food? I want you to experience this too. When I was at CinemaCon for Street Fighter, we did an event where we, I think they basically brought a bunch of people who were not only just like, not movie critics, but like movie, internet connoisseurs or people that really loved either the game or whatever, but like, I guess you could call them influencers, but like, that's what they were passionate about. They brought them all into this room. We set up some stuff and we talked about the movie a little bit and they got to like ask questions, take pictures, et cetera, but like, that's a perfect example what you're talking about. Yeah. Like, instead of, instead of holding the event for all the executives at some company, they held an event for the people that are actually going to be the ones talking about the film. That's right. That's right. But that's the, that's even the move with books. Like, you know, on, on social media, you got all of these different people on TikTok. I could actually have a thing called book time. Or you have like, you know, book influences, just send them your product, send them the book. They want to read their book kind of stories. If they like it, they will talk about it. Also, they're so at this stage of the internet, like, they're not always included in these events. The view is going to get a copy of everybody's book. It's almost like Run of the Mill right now. It's like, that's the traditional thing you do. You want to go on the viewer like the morning show or whatever the fuck. Used to be Oprah. Oprah, like, whatever it is, it's like, you're doing it. So these people that are trying to make a career for themselves online and carry in content to be included in a massive event, you know what that probably means to them? Oh, yeah. You said it used to be Oprah, she's still a boomer. Of course. Well, book club was just part of that big Amazon deal she did. Well, because I think she realized the value and it went back to it. But I think that's also why publishing companies are struggling a lot right now in terms of marketing. That's right. The book is because it used to be there are five TV shows and Oprah's at the top of the list. You know, it goes down. And if you hit those, you're going to have hopefully a best seller and you cultivate those relationships. Now they're 10,000 people out there. None of one by themselves has the concentrated power. But they each have. But they each have a following and they're emerging every day and they're changing. And there might be different people for different genres. And how does a publicity department with two people in it really stay on the show for that? That's right. And real challenge. And also, I'm only going to trust you with books if you're an avid reader. Like the reason I wanted to have a book in print because people, they know I'm an avid reader and I recommend-- They'll start that too. Yeah, I recommend a lot of books and the books that I even partner with are books that mean something to me that I think are going to, you know, bring something to the ecosystem. Arsenio Hall, a guy who I've always told y'all is one of my entertainment inspirations would love to do his memoir, right? Like my Don Staley, that head coach at the University of the Second Line of Gamecox, who has transformed this beloved program to my wife. You know, my wife went to school here. She was a student athlete at the school as a cheerleader. Like, yes, I would love to do her story, right? The Jessal Iris is out right now. That's my co-host on Breakfast Club. But she has a great story about co-parenting with her husband. That's something I could actually help people who are in these co-parenting situations. So when I talk about these books, I can talk about these books with passion. I can feel comfortable out there standing by these books. People feel that. People feel that. And that brings me to a larger point. You influences out there. If you, if your opinion can be bought, good or bad. If somebody can pay you to say something or if somebody can pay you, to not say something, you're a whole. You're a whole and literally your word ultimately will not have the value that it once had. These people are tuned into you and you've gained this audience because they trust you. Yeah. But when they realize like, oh man, this person just gets paid to promote that. They trust you less. Less. When they realize that you might be getting paid to be quiet about some things. They trust you less. They definitely trust you less. You know who you pay to be quiet? Horse. Your side chick. That's what you pay to be quiet. Yeah. Everybody can pay me to be quiet. Yeah. Like you're going to pay me to be quiet about something? You can fuck girls for free. Do you see what I'm saying? They're going to talk about it. I got to pay you to be quiet now. If they can pay you for your opinion or pay you not to have an opinion, you're a whore and eventually the audience will lose. Trust in you. All you got is your word. Can't nobody pay me to do anything? If I'm standing by something, I'm standing by it because I truly believe it. Right. If I'm talking about something, I'm talking about it because I actually like it. All right, you did it. I think it can benefit people. So people could pay you to talk about the shit you like. No. Well, you know what I think they should do. I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. They do do that. Reward people. Like for example. If I say a book came out and there was just somebody that was wanting to book talks or whatever, and it was just like really, really promoting this project, I'm going to reward them in some way. I might invite them to a meet-and-greed. I meant more like, the book imprint is going to make money off of these books you put out. Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that you love these books. No. And you wouldn't put a book on your imprint that you didn't love as you would make money. Absolutely. My point is like just making money off of a thing doesn't mean that you don't believe in it. Oh, no, no, no. I think that's two different things. I get what you're saying. And you should be able to make money off of things you believe in. Absolutely. Passion about it. And other people are able to make money. 100%. 100%. You wouldn't establish. You wouldn't establish whatever it is. You're establishing if you didn't believe in it. Right. I think so. I don't think you should do things just to try to make money. Yes, I agree. I'm just speaking of these influences who are getting paid. You see that in politics. Like all of that shit is crashing and burning. You see that in the music industry. All of that shit is crashing and burning. Because people know like, bro, you just get paid to tell us to vote for this person. You get paid to tell us to buy it. You get paid or it's like this is where the tricky thing is, there are people who are ideologues. Right. There are people who truly believe their shit. Yeah. Right. So, but you know, it's like those. What was that blog? I forget what the blog was. It was some like feminist blog back in the day. And it's like, it felt like the ethos of the blog was just, Hey, men suck. Go out there and find it. And then because that's what they were selling. Now, they might believe that men suck and men need retribution for their actions. But at the same time, that was the products. So now you're looking for it even if it's not there. And that's. Now you start to like fall under the. You fall under the definition of grift, I think. Even though you do believe it. But if you're looking for it more than it's actually there. Because you know, you can monetize. You can monetize that anger, that disgust, that frustration. And you're not willing to pivot when you actually don't think it's right. Yeah. That to me is. You're absolutely right. Inauthentic. And that's the word I was looking for. Because what's going to. What people are going to gravitate towards to now, what they've always gravitated towards. But they're going to continue to gravitate towards to it. It's authenticity. Yeah. And as soon as they smell like you're not authentic, they're like, you know what I mean? I would rather you not like the direction I'm going in anymore. But if it's long as I'm still being authentic. Like, for example, me when I talk about mental health. Yeah. I start talking about mental health because I've actually gone through it. And people like, I don't like that, shout out to me. Cool. But that's me. That's who I am. So whoever I lose during that time frame, I. Hey, they weren't supposed to go on this on this particular journey with me. It's like me with paddle. Padal. Paddle. Is paddle? Paddle. Why America's paddle? It's fancy with that they don't understand how the Spanish words are actually pronounced. But why, why, why, why are you, like getting paddled? Why, when did you get so kinky? Well, I've always been kinky, you know that. Okay. Okay. But I just love, I just love paddle. And it's great. And people think you're getting paid to do paddle. But I'm sure. No, they think I'm talking about pickleball. They don't even know what the fucking sport is. They're like, what the hell is this fucking thing? But I don't care because I'm obsessed with it. I'm playing it three, four times a week and it's this thing that gives me so much joy. And if you get endorsement deals from it. Oh, fuck yeah. You're already pro, right? Well, if you, I am pro technically. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to EuroGum. I'm pro. Shout out to EuroGum, you guys are the best. But that was their pitch on me. They're like, hey, we can make you a professional paddle athlete. And I go, yes. And they're like, we can pay you and I go, oh, also, yes. See what I'm saying? But you get paid to do something you love to do. You want to find people you want to, like if I was a brand, I'm looking for the people who actually believe in it. Yeah, not the people who are willing to do it for the check. Yeah. Because you don't even need to tell them to do much. But those are the things you shouldn't get paid for. Like, I don't, like, I don't, people be like, you make us so much money off into help. How the fuck do you make money off mental health? Well, there's a whole industry where. I'm sure there is, but I'm not in it. The pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money off of it. I definitely don't have, I'm definitely not selling Zanis. Therapists make a good amount of money. But they're supposed to. Also, that's the thing with the therapist is like, I don't know. I don't know if you could pay me enough to just sit there and listen to people tell you how they want to kill them. It's a gift all day. It's a gift. They deserve to get something. It's a gift, but you're a doctor. There are doctors, so it's a gift. Yeah, no, I am very supportive of them having a good life and making money. I think that they say people's lives. So I'm okay with that. Should we go, hey, they shouldn't make any money. You're just trying to help people. It's like, okay, I guess. But no, I don't get it. Then they'll get another job and those people won't get help. I agree, those people like that should be rewarded the most. Like teachers and doctors are supposed to make money. Like teachers should be making seven figures out or if you ask me, hi, six figures, if you ask me. I'm gonna deal with your little punk ass kids all the time. Well, it is the trickiest thing because there's not a person on the planet that doesn't think the teacher should get paid more, but somehow they don't. So it's like, you know what I mean? Like, what's off here, right? If you ask any person in the street, like, hey, do you think teachers should make more money? The answer probably unanimously would be like, yeah, be nice if they made a little more money. The problem is it's always tied into property taxes, right? Nobody wants to pay more property tax than they already are. Tied into something else. Well, that's the new conversation. I'm just saying, to me, it seems like a no-brainer because there's unanimous support, right? Like, I've yet to meet an American at least that. You go, hey, do you think teachers could make a little more money? They went, fuck, no, they got the summer off. Yo, it's a wild that we don't take care of teachers more, bro. Hey, think about, yo, do you know how, think about how crazy that you take your child someplace and drop them off with this person for hours at a time? during the day. - Yeah. - And most of them don't fuck 'em. And I think that there should be some sort of like reward. - Now I'm not rewarding you for what you're supposed to do. We not supposed to fuck no kids. - Well, maybe we need to. - All right, I marked this to this mighty mark. - No, no, not need to have sex with 'em. Maybe we need to pay it more. Maybe we need to reward 'em for not doing it. So then those teachers go, oh shit, all the other teachers, they don't fuck the kids again. Bonuses, baby, I should not do that. - I think you should reward teachers because they're teachers. They're educating our kids every day. They're taking care of our kids well-being every day. These teachers are responsible for our kids. Mental, emotional, even physical well-being every single day. Y'all think of this teaching we had in 4th grade, man. I would never forget this one. - What you're doing by physical well-being? 'Cause there's some teachers that could be fucking you up to my point that I'm about to make. This teacher, I wanna say her name. I don't know if she's dead. She probably gotta be dead by now. 'Cause this was when I was in 4th grade. This woman used to fuck us up at Whitefield Elementary School in Monks Corner, South Carolina. And anybody who had this 4th grade teacher, if I say her name, I know y'all know who I'm talking about. This woman used to be literally dragging kids across the classroom, hitting on 'em. And I'm like, "Yeah, what the f--- in our mind?" That was normal back then. She wasn't supposed to be doing that shit. - She wasn't. - No. - But she did. - She did. That motherfucker shouldn't be a teacher. But. - Yeah, I agree with you. - And by the way, it didn't matter what she was being paid. She was just evil. You know what, when teachers were able to beat the students, I don't think they fucked them. - No, no, this was different. This wasn't no paddling. This wasn't regular pad. This woman was abusive to us. - I know. I'm just saying, I never heard about these controversies back in the day when you could paddle the kids. - Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't getting paddled to middle school. - I never got hit in school by a teacher. - Really? - Never. - No, I never got hit by a teacher. You just get by the principal. - I never got hit by a principal. - Oh, I know, I used to get worn the fuck up. - Really? - Oh man, Mr. Barnett, he just died recently. God bless the debt. Mr. Barnett. - Did you have a teacher that you would have let hit? - Would you mean a woman? - No, like, yeah. A teacher, not let hit. A teacher that I wanted to hit as a little horny as a young man. - Of course. - He too. - She taught sex, eh? - What? - Really? - And I was like, man. - I had a couple, boy. - I remember my second grade teacher. (beep) You can bleep her name, but. - Bad. - Man. - Wait, second grade. - Listen, you gotta think we're in second grade. - Yeah. - So, (beep) is the teacher. - Yeah. - Back then, new women didn't have etiquette around the kid. So she'd be sitting at her desk, boy, where her legs open and you could see the panties, man. - You just came out of one of them, not too long. - Bro? - I saw one at the bar. - He used to go to the bar in New York on the upper west side. There was a bar that we would go, you could go if you're under age. And we were all seniors. So you're like, what, 17, 18? I don't know, but I saw one at the bar, man. - Still got it? - No, I was, when she had it back then. - I'm saying, but she's still got it now at the bar. - I don't know. I didn't see her at the bar recently. I saw her when I was like, oh, okay, okay, okay. - But now we're at the bar. And it's like, what's the bar? And she didn't get us kicked out the bar. Like the responsible thing to do as a teacher would be like, yo, you gotta get out of here. - You guys are old enough, but-- - You're a teacher in high school or middle school? - You're a teacher in high school. - Interesting. - She was our teacher currently that year. - Oh, very interesting. - So she's not kicking us out the bar. So it was like, you know, what do you do? I didn't go through it. - That's New York though. So 17 sadly is legal in New York. - No way. - As I felt. - Why didn't, why didn't we remember what time I felt was walking around? - Didn't you marry that girl? Or something like that? - I don't think you married her. But he was like 38 with the 17 year old. - Why did Russell plan move to New York? - I don't know, I think it was legal. - Russell, oh wow, boy. - That motherfucker is. - What was the point of sharing that? Me? - No, Russell had me. - Oh, he got to be getting-- I thought you were upset at me for bringing it up. - No. - He got to be getting the head of something, right? - And I mean, not really because he said in the UK, it's legal. So he's holding onto that Bible for dear life, right? - Did you see Pierce Morgan ask him what verse? And he was just sifting through the pages for a minute straight, not knowing. Even Trump was like, I like all of them. If you go live about the Bible, if you go live on the Bible while you're holding it, like at least be prepared. - I don't know. And he couldn't just read any verse, man. Just read any verses better than sifting through the page. - You know what I think? I think somebody told Russell Brand, they got a role for him, but he got to go out here and clean up his image. And if he can clean up his image, he'll get the role. That's what I think this was. 'Cause there was no need for this shit, bro. And here's the thing, man. - I think he's taking advantage of the most forgiven people. Who's the most forgiven people, Christians? - Are they? - Are they? - Are they? - I think historically, yeah. - Now when it comes to shit like this, 'cause Christians don't run Hollywood, what the fuck? - Well, I don't know if he's, I think he knows he's out of Hollywood. I don't think there's a chance for Hollywood. - So what was the point? I think he's got a, he likes Senator, he likes Senator Tension. And he likes to be a person who makes money. And he has a lifestyle, they want to keep it. - And I don't even understand the conversation. Like if you had, how old he said he wants to say he was 30 when he had sex with a 16 year old. - 16 year old, like for me, it's like, that makes you look even stranger. 'Cause it's not about the law in that situation. It's like how are you 30 attracted to? What do you see in a 16 year old? That would make you want to have sex with her? Don't, you can't use the law at that type of an excuse. My daughter's 17, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know what a 16, 17 year old girl looks like. There are kids, like, there's nothing about me as a grown man. It's like, oh yeah, I want to sleep there. So it's like, what is you, what are you doing, Russell? Is this your right head, is this the quote? - Now this is him shifting through it. - Such a good actor too, man. Get 'em to the Greek is phenomenal. - Yeah. - I watched that shit too. - Oh, it was really talented. - I watched that shit two weeks ago, man. - Can I go back to asking him about your Bible? - Yes, if you want to. - Okay. - Was that the one you took into court? - Yeah, the very one. - Okay. What was your thinking of taking it into court? And what you were seeing looking at some passages. What were the relevant passages for you? - All right, thank you for asking me. - Thank you. I didn't heard that. - A little bit. - It was this from as I am. - You're right, where did you say, you know, be chilled? - Sometimes I lose the chill, man. It's pretty. - Hmm. - Is this? - You look great, eh? - I mean, it is a lot too much. - I don't know that, do they, in the old gallery, but remember, he just said it's a hired spot. This is from Isaiah. - Got to go for a proper up. - Excuse me. - Yeah, there's no idea what the fuck he's doing. - You know, shout out Pierce though, but just letting him sit. - Yeah, that's good. That's a good interviewer right there. Let him sit. - Let him sit. - The split screen is so good. - He really does look like that patient lady from home alone too, man. Bro, that's me looking at you. - He says here. - And you in a restaurant. (laughing) - I'm throwing the sights, I'm trying to figure out what the fuck I want, bro. (laughing) - Oh, look at Pierce. - Pierce is like, you stay on him. - I also look like he wanna look up and see what's good here. - The first time I was looking at that day was, not this, I can't actually find the first time that I had that day, but this is good enough. This is from Isaiah 12. - I'm gonna be honest with you. I never watched that whole thing. That wasn't as bad as I thought it was, bro. - Really? - 'Cause it seems honest. I couldn't find the verse that I was looking at that day. - Right. - But that was the Bible he brought to court. So you think he would have it? - Have it marked as something like that? - Raleigh. - All right, man. - I'm still tripping off the verse 16 that he put out there. Okay, like that, you know what I'm saying? Like that was wild. - Which one? - Chapter 16, you know what I'm saying? Like, verses, that was wild. - It's just, you feel like, you know when someone goes to jail and then becomes religious for the food? - Yeah, yeah. - Like don't you feel like a little bit like, all right, did you really find God or were there circumstances where this was advantageous for you? And that's what this is like wreaking of a little bit. - What is he fighting though? What's the demon? Like what is going on here? - And women keep getting older. He's like, "Lord help me." He's women keep getting older as I get older. What's going on here? Lord help me, Lord. - Let's face some bills. - No, yeah, just start reading a book where a woman becomes a woman of 13. - He's like, "I'm in the Old Testament bro." - Man, imagine looking for a script. - Imagine looking for a script to try to justify your sin, man. - He's no more the whole thing. - Okay, yo, God said it 13. What you want me to do? I'm a believer. - I'm a believer. - Oh my God, man. Let's face some bills, man. - Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. Just plum, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. - Maybe it is. It's Maybelline. Let's get back to the show. Church announcements have the kind of walk up. Yo, this week, first of all, Tampa. Thank you guys so much for the shows last weekend. Tampa is a fucking amazing city. This weekend, I'll be in Denver. We just added another show. We had a fish show Sunday. And I think that sold out already. So we added a six one Sunday as well. So go grab those and then May 8th. I'll be in Los Angeles for at the Greek theater with jelly roll. A bunch of other great comics for the Netflix and the joke fest. Then Salt Lake City is sold out, but I think we're going to be adding shows. So, you know, look at my Instagram story. I'll announce right there. We got Virginia Beach, June 5th and 6th. And we got Halifax, Nova Scotia, August 8th. And oh, no, on my Instagram, I'll be announcing some more stuff that we're going to be adding, man. So thank you very much. My church announcement, man, Jessalari's book is available everywhere. You buy books now. Tell Deft that we, parent, if you are a parent who is co-parenting, you know, with your baby mother, baby father, this is a good book for you because Jess explores her relationship with her baby father, Rome. And just takes you on the journey of how they got to the point where they became healthy co-parent and it's dope because they started off as young parents as well. This is the same, this is the same guy she's with. No. She's married now to a brother named Chris. God is. But Rome is her first baby father. And they still are co-parenting. It's still a healthy co-parent. That's right. Their oldest son, Ash. I think Ash is 14 now. Maybe 15? God. 14, 14, 15. One of the three. I can't. I can't remember. But Jessalari's book is available everywhere. You buy books now. I'll send you a halls book. It's still out there, man. People love I'll send you a halls book. I mean, what I like about it, watch it. They're not watching other comics pay homage to us as a little hall. Like watching the video that they're doing. Godfrey did a real dope video. D that was did a real dope video, man, so salute to y'all. But both of those books are available everywhere. You buy books now and we have a big announcement coming soon, man. With breakfast club and Netflix. Can't wait to talk about that. Probably. Ooh. Probably next. What's his name? I don't even want to talk about that. Do you give a fuck about that? I don't even. Which one? Which one? The first one. I could care less. I could care less. I'm married. I do want it to. Oh, you know what? I do want to talk about in regards to that situation. Paul Fist's comments. Did you hear Paul Fist's comments? No, what did Paul say? Let me pull up Paul Fist's comments. The reason I want to pull up Paul Fist's comments is because I earlier this week. He said the context of what the convo is. Yes. This is Paul Fist said. Let me tell you the truth about NBA players or even people in the line like like movie stars or football players. A lot of these holes is seasonal holes. And I ain't saying that's Megan, but a lot of these, a lot of these chicks me seasonal. Maybe cast that be talking to chicks during the season, then after the season we'll talk to them all summer. They go live where they live. And then when the season started back up, they back in rotation. It could have just been seasonal for her. So they're buying houses together and introducing the family. I'm cracking. I can buy this house selling. I'm still living the dream, but he's still living the dream. Yeah. That's so hurtful. No, but I'm just, it's not me saying this. This is not me. I'm telling you. Who else is saying it? Like this is what I'm telling you to read out women need male homeboys. Women need male homeboys for conversations just like that. Talk to 'em. 'Cause those are the type of conversations I have with my homegirls, especially my homegirls who are in the industry, you know what I'm saying? Who might be dealing with dudes in the industry. Like I either do one or two things. I either give them those type of warnings or I say, man, don't leave me out of it. Like, you know what's up with, you know, such and such, you know, people, I got homegirls that are asking me about other guys that are in the industry, I don't want nothing to do with that. The reason I don't want nothing to do with that, 'cause if that person breaks your heart, it's not on me. It ain't on me. If that's something that you're looking to pursue, you pursue that on your own. And if it grows into something great, you know what I mean? But if y'all just have a little fun with each other and y'all fucking keep it moving, that's cool too. I don't want no parts of it. And that is why women need male homeboys to have those kinds of conversations with him. And you got to listen to Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce lived it. He was an NBA motherfucking player. One of the best to ever do it. So if he's telling you how NBA players move, why wouldn't you listen? This is really why are people giving Paul a ship for this? No, no, no, no, no. I just was looking at it. Because when we got on the air Monday, I just couldn't believe that this was such a topical conversation. And I was just like, yo, this is why women need male homeboys because I would have warned one of my homegirls about dating the NBA player. But I think I don't know. Especially if you're already in the industry and have dated athletes before, you should absolutely know how they could shouldn't should be like the assumption should be, this is the thing I don't get sometimes about women. And it's like they'll say things like all guys cheat, right? All guys, not even NBA, like all guys. And then you start dating the most cheatable guy, which is professional athlete on the road five days a week, out there, girls, DM and them constantly. And then they cheat and people are like, I can't believe they cheated. And it's just like, but you believed it before. Yeah. What happened? Yeah, yeah. And the craziest thing about this, if you watch what you put on her Instagram, clearly they had a conversation and the conversation was, I can't be monogamous. Yeah. You know what I was saying? I can't be monogamous now. People can say, well, he should have said that from the start, sometimes man, you and a person having some fun together and then things start to get a little heavy and you got to dip it in the butt, like, eh, and he bought a house number one, number one, I don't even think that, I don't think that's true. I don't think he bought her a house, even if it was, I think he bought a house, you know what I'm saying? And whatever. But my thing is this, what is that to a guy that's made 400 million dollars a house? What is that? To them is nothing. It is nothing for him to spend a couple of dollars on another property. Even buying a car is nothing for him. That's a regular guy taking you on vacation. Him buying a house is a regular guy taking you on vacation. If a guy takes you on vacation, they'll mean he's going to be faithful and vacation where? Everybody acts their wage, guys, okay? Everybody acts their wage. I've seen some wild things in my day, you get, you know, you dealing with a Dominican and you get her a Michael Corsback in a limo. She love you. Like, oh my God, that's like a, that's my boo. But for me, that's nothing, not me. You got a whole other family in DR. You see what I'm saying? I'm got a whole other family in DR. You don't need Michael Corsback. That's the problem. I'm saying her a chunk of it. Women need male homeboys, and I'm going to tell you something else, that even take it out of women. So y'all can't twist this is misogynistic. I got, I got homeboys in the industry. I can tell y'all about, I'm not going to do it, but I can tell y'all about the situation and protect. I'm not going to name the names. I got a homeboy, younger, dealing with a, with what was dealing with an industry woman that was older, like older, like in her 40s, you know, at the top. Yo, yo, what you think? My brother has some fun. That's all she doing. That's it. I'm telling you right now, don't get your nose open over her. Okay. Because she's here for a good time, not a long time. All right. Don't get your nose all open over her. I'm telling you, all right, look at her, look at her history. Look at what she just got out of. This is just going to be, you're here for some fun, and she's here for some fun. That's okay, too. And that's okay. And guess what happened? Exactly what I said was going to happen. Okay. I think we just got to have different standards. Like if you care about monogamy, you shouldn't be dating an athlete. Simple as that. And then if you go into it going, this guy's not going to be faithful, and then he is, imagine how good you feel. And then a younger athlete, this guy got too much testosterone. Wait, is he younger than, is Clay younger than, uh, man? Well, I'm saying he's older than me, but he's still a younger athlete, not even older yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still got so much testosterone. Honestly, a retired athlete might be more dangerous, damn, because they got all the, damn. And they're not getting the same craze they used to get. So now they're like, I need my praise, damn, even if it's a private workout. Shack is out there DJing to replicate game seven. He literally said that. He's like, it's the close thing that gets me the game seven. He's DJing. Shack. One of the greatest basketball players ever played in history, the spin and records replicate game seven. My God. Somebody, all the entertainment jobs, athlete, actor, rapper, what have you, which, which one is the least likely to be faithful? The least is athlete, athlete, definitely over actors. Yeah. Yeah, cause athlete's on the road all the time. there's still some stability with actors. - You could be there. Like, unless you're gonna dug Christie it, like his wife would be on the road with him every single week and at the hotel. And I think he was a virgin before they got married. And that's like a fucking unicorn. You know, like it's not dude. If you're dating an athlete, forget it. - Yeah. - Athletes, athletes on the road all the time. City, the city. - But there's more public than an actor. - Not really. We don't know what athlete would go in there all the time. - If you date a football player, you can't cheat it over. - More than NBA? - Yeah, because people don't even know who he is. He wears a helmet all day. So he's got all the money, all the anonymity, and he's retarded. So he might even think he's single. - I agree with that to a certain extent. The fact that people don't know who they are is what slows down the amount of vagina they probably get. It's worse than NBA plans 'cause they got so many options 'cause you see them, you know they face. - I just don't need that many options to cheat my brother. - No, not the cheat, but I'm just saying it's tough for NBA players. We'll chamblin' don't get to those numbers if he's a football player. - 100%, you're not gonna get to the numbers, but Arnold smashed his nanny for the housekeeper. So it's not like auto is a different breed, too, though, what does that mean? - Because he was a level of superstar actor that a lot of people don't get to. That's the terminator. - That's his highs again. - And he was a sex symbol walking around with the fucking briefs on, little meetout, you know what I mean? Diesel is a motherfucker, oiled up. Like women had him up on the wall, like they wanted Arnold, bro. - We need to interview that, that may. - You know, 'cause that must have been a fever dream for her Arnold's on top of her pumping away with his accent. - Yes. - She could have never imagined that would be her. - And he never had one nice then. - And he left it in. - You know Arnold never had a one nice then, right? - You always told him I'll be back. (laughing) - I'll be the best competitive. - That joke for the win. - That joke for the fucking win. That's what Jay-Z was talking about when he said you don't act young. - Nah, nah, nah. - That was the that joke for the win. - He smashed her. - He fired her. - And she was like, I'll be back. - Dang it. (laughing) - Yo, she came back with a bitch. Yo fucking the nanny is crazy. - She wasn't even. - The maid. - She wasn't even, I mean, we haven't seen her. I can't say. - Yes, I thought, nah, that's all right there. What do you mean? - Nah, she got some. - Yo, he did that just for the conquest. - With all due respect. - This is with all due respect. - That's why we gotta throw that out there, 'cause he got a seed that's running around and he's like in movies and that kind of stuff. - Really? - He's swimming and looking at him. - Yeah, the guy's a bodybuilder. - He's a bodybuilder. - Oh, that's the kid now? - Exactly, so we talked about that. - Well, I thought that was a young Arnold. That's crazy. - Now it is, Sharla. - It is, it is a young Arnold. - It's exactly that. - It's exactly that. - It's really hard about him real. I'm like, oh shit, he looks more like Arnold than his other kids. - How old is he now? - Not old. - No, but he's out there in the world. He's doing great things. You know what, man, God works in mysterious ways. He does. - I'm saying God works in this. - God does. - That is the vessel that God chose the nanny to be the vessel that gave you a young Arnold, bro. I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? I mean, his other kid is a successful actor. - White Lotus. He was jerking off another guy in that. - I blame the son. - I'm not gonna lie. - Oh, the other guy. - He was jerking off his brother. His brother jerked him off in the thing. Great actor. Crazy scene. - Can we talk about that for a second? - Not to jerking off with a brother to Arnold thing, right? - Yes, please. I'd love to. - Your Arnold Swartz in it. - Patrick Swartz. - Patrick Swartz. - I just call him Swartz, I don't know. - Yo, I'd never seen him. Yo, that's a good looking man, yo. That's a good looking man. Wow, he's in Hollywood. He's a Kennedy, right? - Maria Shriver is his mother, so yeah. - Yeah, he got some kids. - That was Maria's mother. 'Cause that was-- - Who's the nanny's kid? - No, no, Maria is, he likes Maria's. (laughing) - Who's the nanny's kid? - Arnold Lover Maria. - Who's the nanny's kid? Who's the nanny's kid? So a maid's kid. - The maid's kid. So Patrick is the maid's kid? - No, Patrick's Maria Shriver and Arnold's kid. - Okay. - The other kid is named. What's his name? - Okay, Patrick comes from great stock. - Well. - And that's a great breed, bro. - That's great. - Joseph Byina. - So that's not the guy, y'all showed me the body, but the bodybuilder was Patrick. - The bodybuilder, the guy we just showed you, the guy who looks more white, is with Maria. But the bodybuilder is with Mrs. Byina. - Wow. - Okay, so let's talk about that. - Yeah, let's do it. - Your Arnold Schwarzenegger. - Whatever energy is over you. - Yeah, it's over you. - Telling you that you got to talk to this man. - Maid. - Maid. - What if? - What if? - What if? - John Connor comes from the future. - Or just something comes from the future. Like in the movie, came from the future and said, you have to breed with this made right now in order to create this young bodybuilder. Like what energy took over him that not just made him have, that's what this one, but they conceived a child. That don't feel like an accident universally. - That kid right there could father the child that saves the human race. - You see what I'm saying? - And what we're sitting here right now shitting all over Arnold for saving humanity. And we won't even know we might be dead before that happens. - Yo, I'm really thinking about this because it's like, well, you're not supposed to cheat. No, but I'm just trying to figure out what energy came over him to where the universe wanted that to happen. And then that child comes into the world. Because everything happens for a reason, right? Arnold not had an incredibly successful track record. It's a man like that not incredibly disciplined. We're talking about a guy that probably watched every grain of rice that went into his body. Do you think that he is not capable of discipline? Of course he is. It makes way more sense to me that a guy came from the future, came back to him and said in order to save the human race, I'm gonna need you to knock up that and make a literal clone of you. Look, a clone of you that he might save the world or his kid might save the world or his kid's kid might save the world. And here we are, the peanut gallery criticizing this man for saving humanity, we apologize. - I don't know if we need to apologize. I'm just saying, this is what Brewery is this for, looking at things from other perspective. Is cheating wrong? - Yes, but is they been race dying wrong? - Yes. - But he had a baby with the maid and the baby is turned out to be another him. - There's something, there's something that overcame him. - I agree. - The spirit of that child or something. - I agree. - And it was like, I gotta come into this world through this vessel. That's the border. That was the border, bro. That was the border. - And you know what Arnold is? - An immigrant too. You see what I'm saying, yo? - You look another one in. - Yo! - He's not another one. - Come on, yo. I'm Mexican Australian. - He's Austrian. (laughing) - What's up? - He's not Australian, he's Austrian. - Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I understand, I understand, I understand. I thought he was a Mexican Australian. I never heard any of that, bro. I never heard of that ever in my life. A Mexican Australian would have been crazy. I did not know that. Correspondent didn't shoot out. - What did Bootsie say? - The devil works hard. - Devil works hard. - But God's works harder? - God works harder. - Oh man. - What'd you think of the course, my name? Getting shot up. - Man. - What did it get shot up? - I don't even know, 'cause they announced that first that they killed the guy. What shocks me the most is how quickly people got over it. That shit was in the conversation for a day. It was on Twitter for like a day, and two days later, people were like, yo, Megan Clay broke up. Do you know what I mean? Like, how the fuck does that trend do you? - Yeah, you right. - Well, people involved in it got over pretty quickly. - Ooh, what does that mean? What does that mean? - Well, I mean, you got a little conspiracy going? - I'm just looking at what happened. I was watching the video. - You think Eric occurred to it? - No. - But I think normally if you're the president and there's an assassin in the building, they get you out of the building. You don't watch from backstage. See what's going on. And then I think when you have a press conference and how are they there? - We are living in Bizarre World, right? - Why did the Secret Service shoot the guy? - I'm trying to be very aware of that, too, to be honest. - Why didn't the Secret Service shoot the guy? - Well, they tried to, they mean. - I think they hit him once. - No, it was friendly fire. They hit the other Secret Service. - Yeah, they said he hit another Secret Service. - Oh, I thought they hit him once. - Yeah, I thought he was dead. Remember they had now, he was dead. - I mean, then he was dead at first. What happens is he comes running in, they shot at him, they miss, but they hit another guy at the Secret Service across the lobby or whatever it was. The guy trips and falls. So now the speculation is, not that it necessarily matters that much, but he never actually fired his weapon. Because if you remember, I forget who the administration officials was like, well, sometimes evidence disappears, which isn't. - Yeah, I saw that, right. The guy had a shotgun that was gonna fire a buck shot. It would be sprayed all over the world. - He had a shotgun? - Yeah. - So he was armed, I mean, that motherfucker was fast. You see the video and that motherfucker was quick. Like they tried to sign them, the bangles. I'm telling you, that should look like fucking, quick still, we're running in there. I didn't, you know, I understand everybody questioning everything now, right? Like we just talked about that earlier, we talk about it damn in every podcast. You don't know what's real and what's not real anymore. The reason I don't like everybody rushing to say that this was fake is because it causes you [BLANK_AUDIO] not to have conversations that you should be having. - I like that. - Meaning, if you read his manifesto, right? At some point, you should say to yourself, man, what if this wasn't fake? What if people have gotten to the point where this administration's policies have hurt them so much that they're fed up and they're just willing to risk it all? What if people are so fed up with government period that they're willing to risk it all? - We saw it with Louise Mangioni, right? That's the name. - Well, clearly that is the case. - Yeah, what's his name? What's his guy's name? - Luigi Mangioni. - Luigi Mangioni, we saw it with things like that. So there are some people in this society who have been hurt so bad by government, who have been hurt so bad by this administration's policies that they're willing to risk it all? Not saying it's right. - No, but I also think there's a mental health thing here too, which is like-- - A big, a big mental health. - He was put up to it, whether he did himself, the guy was clearly-- - The question-- - He was? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Look, the question, do you think Luigi was-- - Luigi was-- - Yeah. - Maybe a little less so, but-- - I mean, look, in order to, when you do this, you're essentially a suicide mission, right? So trying to assassinate anybody is, you're willing to kill yourself, right? So I think there is a amount of mental illness that exists there. If you want to get into like a conspiracy land, the question is basically like, has he been, did somebody find him on some forum looking really upset and angry and hating Trump? And somebody did some organization, who knows what that organization might be? Did they continue to amplify his anger and continue to push him and nurture him? And like, I'm sure that this happens on a regular basis. I'm sure that we're not the only country where these things kind of happen. And we might be doing this in other countries as well. So it's like, if that's the question, and then you want to know what that body is, and what that entity is, that's to me is a conspiracy. - Because, you know, Lee Harvey Oswald was probably mentally ill, right? - Well, aren't all of them. - Well, once again-- - Right, let's see your play. - But then who is the person that's feeding the best people? - Who's he a Patsy IV? He was famously called a Patsy, right? So in this case, is it an inside job that the government itself put this guy up? Is it an outside government? Is he, I mean, the official story is he was radicalized, right? - By whom? - The leftist media and politicians and they're to blame for this, so. - Okay, right, but then is it another country? Is another country that wants us to do something? Is it another country that is upset with the things we are doing, right? Like, you can look at this a million different ways and you can see how radicalized people are by the internet, but I think you need to be a little crazy to get radicalized to the point of death. Like, this is a suicide mission, so you're basically getting radicalized to the point where like, my life doesn't matter anymore and I'm gonna risk it for this. - Do you think unique in one's point of chocolate with mentally ill? - No, I didn't get that from him. - But what drove him to do what he ultimately ended up doing? The system that he was in? - Well, no, I think that like, I don't want without getting way too much of the movie, like, you know, there were some heinous things that happened to him. - The system that he was in? - They were the system that he was in was heinous. You see, what we're doing is, we're not even taking reality into consideration. By the way, we don't know what's real and what's not real. None of us in here could potentially be wrong, but you're looking to be careful that we don't make it seem like you're justifying the action. - I know you're not justifying it. - They already got that headline going, but I'm not. I'm just trying, I'm just giving people another perspective. The manifesto, the guy says, "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." He said, "I am a citizen of the United States of America, what my representatives do reflects on me, and I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. I would still go through both everyone here to get to the targets if we were absolutely necessary on the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor and are thus complicit, but I really hope it doesn't come to that. - I hate to break it to you, buddy, but you got a lot more people on your list. - That's your limit says you got a lot more to take out. But we live in a world where if you look at that manifesto, right, you look at that manifesto, he clearly gave you a reason as to why he thought what he was doing with the right thing to do. - Yeah, nobody's questioning that. - So why do we dismiss it as just fake? And I also want you all to think about something else. Has anybody been arrested for the Epstein crime yet? - No, I mean, maybe like not in America. - Not in America. - No, so who, the one woman? - The one woman. And Jeff, you have to be good. So let's think about it like this. If we lived in a country where we saw actual justice, meaning that the pedophiles and the rapists that are in the Epstein files were actually, you know, charged and we saw the trial. Do you think he would be resorted to wanting to take matters in his own hands? - I think that maybe he wouldn't, but I think that there are other people that would for different things. - And those are probably the people that are actually mentally ill. But rational thinking people would probably be like, you know what, just this is being served, the law is doing their job. There's no reason for me to try to play vigilante. - Yeah, a rational person would not do it. My point is just because you're frustrated about things, doesn't mean that you can go around killing people. - 100%, 100%, but we're lying to ourselves. If we act like that isn't always, that that isn't sometimes the case. - Yeah, sometimes there aren't too. - Vigilante justice does exist. - Yeah, they does, but that's right. - Not saying it is right. - As a civil society, we should push back against it. - I am what you 100%. I'm just, I just think that we, you have been the victim of vigilante justice. - 100%, but that's why I think we shouldn't have, we shouldn't just dismiss all reasons why people do these things. I think we like to say that they're fake to make ourselves feel better. I think we like to say that these people are mentally ill, they've been pushed up to do it to make ourselves feel better, 'cause we don't wanna think that man, this country is really unraveling, bro, in a real way. - I don't think that's why. I mean, you could be right, but I don't think that's why. I think the reason why, I mean, fake is a different thing. But like, I don't think there is any justification for it, right? There are outlets for your frustration. You should definitely protest. You should definitely speak out against things. You should galvanize the people to make this type of change. And that has been effective throughout history in the United States of America. God bless. We've been able to do that. - But when you bring it to, hey, I don't like the way this is going, I'm gonna start killing people. Somebody might not like the thing you're doing and then they'll feel just in killing it. When we reward, when we reward the act, I think the reason why we assume it's crazy is because we understand that there is this social contract where we all take part in which is I don't like something, but I'm not gonna go take justice in my own hand. Who's crazy? People like him are our president for the rhetoric that he spews. - I mean. - That is politically violent. This guy posted a video years ago. I saw this on CNN. He posted, or no, Charles Blow actually posted this on his Instagram page. Trump posted a video once where he was, it was like, I guess it was AI where he was beaten up CNN. So it was like a person, but it had CNN. - Well, he was beaten up personally. - Who do you think is crazy? - The president. - I think, wow. - Because he's the leader of the free world. He should know better. - Oh, so you just have higher standards for how? - Yes, I think that if you're, especially when they say things like, you know, you have to tone down the violent political rhetoric. When they say that to people like myself or they say that to people like Jimmy Kimmel or whoever, you gotta start at the top. - Oh, I hear that thing because our rhetoric is violent. I'm not calling for nobody to get shot. I'm not calling for nobody to get beat up. But the president has. - So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. - The president just was making fun of Robin Mueller last month. - Right. - Literally said, I'm glad he's dead. - No, it's crazy. - It's good. But that's my point. - That stuff is also insane. And I think there's criticism. - Yes. - And like, I think the justification that you go, I think you could make more of a justification through violence when it comes to like what's happening with foreign wars, right? 'Cause now it's like these decisions are leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. - This guy said, you know, wipe a whole civilization off the mat. - Right, right. But they're, I mean, there are directly correlated deaths. So like, you even look at what's happening in like Ukraine, Russia right now, which we've kind of just like, forgot. - I forgot. - But we're talking about Jesus. - I don't know, maybe over a million people have died and they're fucking more insane statistic that we're not even kind of considering or even thinking about. So like, you could look at that and be like, what the fuck is going on? Like, why are these people engaging in this and supporting it and over a million people? I might be getting that statistic wrong or fucking dead. Like, that's insanity. You start to go, that's insane. I get that, right, 100%. But there's no way you want to live in a world where we don't think the people that try to exact, you know, political violence are crazy. You don't want to live in a world where we go, those people actually make sense. Because where does that, where does that stop? - It's at Downhill's, look. - Exactly, like. - But the problem is, we're also living in a world where there's a chaos agent in charge. - Yes. - And it's who's constantly lighting fires. - Yes. - Two things can be true, two things can be wrong. - So chaos agent, and you know, are you creating an environment where these sort of things - Chris, don't do that, don't ask answers. What do you mean? Well, he don't, a chaos agent creates chaos. Right, but, so don't say if you're a chaos agent, are you, no, you're doing the CNN thing right now. Well, but, but now what they're going to say, now they're going to say is like, which came first the chicken of the egg, right? Because, like, now you guys are making the same argument that he's making, right? Everybody's claiming the other people are. Exactly, so it's like the administration, but I know. Right. But the administration is going to, I mean, like, they're being like issues between Democrats and Republicans preceded all of this, and the fact that there have been like assassination attempts on presidents preceded all of that. But that's the evidence, right? Now, Ronald Reagan was a Republican. I mean, that's the last assassination attempt that I really remember. No, Mama had like, well, I guess it's between attempts and things that they thought. Well, that felt real in the way that, depending on who you talk to, these Trump ones feel real in a way that's different from Obama or any of the other presidents, people rallied around him on both sides when he was shot outside of the same hotel where the, where the correspondent didn't took place. And a lot of that was because how he reacted to it and how he handled the situation, right? Both in the moment and in the aftermath, there was still a sense on his part to bring people together, as I remember it, and a certain decorum, let's call it, if that's the right word. You don't think so? I mean, wrong, but there's another angle. A lot of people rallied around it because the Ellison's own CNN though. And so CNN, a lot of those people are falling in line. That's CNN. Okay. I think what he's referencing is, is I'm saying both sides, you know. But I think the Democrats hated. I mean, your reference in the rhetoric of Reagan, specifically not. Oh, he's talking about Reagan. Yeah. Well, I think that's the reason. No, no, no, I think, yeah, that's why you guys are just the situation was people transcended the politics at the moment. And they're like, you know, this is down, this is getting too crazy. By a mentally ill person, no question in his case, right? That's not happening now because of the environment that's being created by Trump itself. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'll be clear. Like, Trump created, not that he created to the point where these things are being staged. There's a lot of people. I will phrase that as a question because I honestly don't fucking know. And that's part of the problem right now. Right. I think that the conversation that people have with like, this is not the first time the political of violence has existed in the United States of America. Right. Unfortunately, it's existed for centuries in the United States of America. Abraham Lincoln was fascinating. Of course. Exactly. Of course. So it's like, yes, there has been this like, you know, discourse and then there are crazy people or there are people who are, you know, inspired by organizations, whatever the fuck it is, no matter how far down like the rabbit who you want to go. But both sides are going to feel victimized in it, right? Like the people who get shot at are going to go, you guys created the environment where people hate me so much that you're shot at. Right. And then the people who not are supportive of the shooting, but the people who hate the people in charge are going to go, you created this chaos that makes people want to do these things. And they're both just going to yell at each other. At a certain point in time, we have to go, okay, guys, we don't want people to get killed here. It's like, it's, it's, you want to look at like gang beef. It's like, oh, you killed my fucking grandfather three decades ago. And it's like, okay, well, then you killed my uncle three decades. Like, okay, do we just do this until nobody's around anymore? Or is there a certain point in time where like, there's a different way we can set a lot there? I don't, I don't think you're wrong, shows. But I also think that, you know, once again, we got to look at all perspectives, right? Because it's not just violent rhetoric that's happening. Mm-hmm. It's violent policies that are happening. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Like, those can be wrong too, by the way. Like, it doesn't mean that those are wrong. And it's not too gangs, unequal footing. Oh, these are from the west side, the east side. Right. President sets the tone. Yes. And sets the policy. The president sets the agenda. Do we ever think, Chris, do we think about Doge? And the hundreds of thousands of jobs that Doge got rid of last year. All of these federal workers still haven't found work. People have lost houses. People have had loved ones that have died because they don't have health care. Even when you think about, you know, am I a person that believes they need to be more security? A hundred percent. Of course. Think about their brutality. Of course. Of course. Of course. But the court of policies have gone down. The question is, are you saying that it's justified because of it? No. So then it's no. No, no, no. So it's like, so you, so that's how it's going to be consumes. Like, I don't think you're justifying it. But if I was someone who doesn't know you, I would go, oh, he's saying that he deserved this and he made people that this radicalized to his thing. I think we have to deal with the reality that some of these policies have hurt people so much that some folks are willing to risk it off. Well, now, now you're justifying it. I'm justifying it. No, you are. It's just a reality. But now you just, it's just a reality that you have to deal with. Am I, am I, you feel like I'm justifying it, mouth? No, I think you're going to extrapolate out that like, was Osama justified, not justified. It was like Timothy McVeigh, all these other like political, uh, you're making the argument that people make about bin Laden, which is, well, if America wasn't doing this shit in the Middle East, then bin Laden wouldn't have done it. I don't know. I've been saying that is the argument that they would make. I just think that we would be remiss to not take a step back and not just have conversations about violent rhetoric. Let's talk about violent policies that people have been watching over the last year and a half and how a lot of people live in hurt by those policies and some of those people are willing to risk it off because to your point earlier, they don't have nothing else to lose. At least in their mind. Sure, sure, but I guess what I'm saying is we still go, it's wrong to do that. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just like, you still have to deal with the reality. But you and I both know from knowing people that are crazy, that it actually doesn't take that much to get certain crazy people to do. Can you be driven crazy? You lose your house, your grandma dies because you know, you couldn't afford health care, your grandma been living here her whole life. She gets deported to some country or your wife or somebody that you love, they're deported back to a country you know, admit to, can you be driven crazy? I think you can be radicalized for sure. I think there's a lot of proof for that. Sure. But again, it's like, I'm not saying it's right. I'm just telling you, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me just dismiss and everything. Let me, let me present a different scenario and you tell me if you feel justified. The border is open during Biden and let there, you know, hundreds of millions of people that are coming in the border. There are certain people who have businesses that now can no longer compete because they're labor prices that are way cheaper. Their business is closed. They can no longer be on healthcare, their grandma dies. They're seeing their dad die. They're seeing their business fall apart. They have to sell their home. They can't sell their home. Their home gets foreclosed. Now they're not able to put their kid in the school that they were able to put it and now their family is homeless and they're literally, they get so radicalized that then they try to kill Biden. Or would you go, Biden, if you didn't do that violent policy, then it's. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. I don't agree with it. Same thing, the unit of healthcare CEO is the best example. I don't agree with that at all, but I can understand how a person is radicalized to get to that point. I don't understand why we have to start dealing with the reality of that because we don't deal with the reality of that. That goes back to what Tupac said back in the '90s when he was, when he gave that whole, you know, analogy of people looking outside of this house. They're starving. They don't have no food, can't afford to put food on the table. They're kids starving. So at first, they're asking, they're like, "Yo, we hungry, please let us in. We hungry, please let us in." Then they start singing. "We hungry, please let us in." He said, "At some point, they won't kick down the door and start blasting, depending how dire the situation gets." I'm standing outside trying to sing my way in, you know what I'm saying? "We hungry, please let us in. We hungry, please let us in." After about a week, that song was going to change, that we hungry, we need some food. After two, three weeks, it's like, you know, give me a little food and we're breaking down the door. And after a year, you can just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm picking the lock coming through the door blasting, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you hungry. You reach your level. You don't want anymore. We asked ten years ago. Is that right? No, but if we don't deal with the reality of being able to understand it, we can only push people so far. I agree with you, right? Like, you know, there's some person that unfortunately, I'm sure, that they're like kid, like I had cyber bullied and they took their own life and it's like, that dad is probably incredibly furious. Does he go and find Mark Zuckerberg and exact justice on him? And would you understand it if he did? He, I mean, somebody might try to do that, but I guess, but again, once we start living that world where if you went through something incredibly painful, grueling and awful and then your actions are quote unquote, justified based on that pain, we stop living that. Not justified. Got it. Got it. Understood. Show us. We're here. You, but that's what I'm trying to explain to you. We're here. It's John Q. Yes. We're here now. Like we're, and we're having the wrong conversation like we're saying like, we got to stop the rhetoric. If we stop the rhetoric, then these things will stop happening. No. I mean, any quality that exists in this world. So maybe, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's pushing people to this. Listen, I agree with you on that. It's like, you can only push people so far before they were bailed, right? And like people are being pushed, you know, to me, you see what was the, what was the rich? Well, it's, yeah, but that, I mean, it's similar. It's, I'm talking about like a French revolution type of shit, right? Like, what did he do? That was the French Red Bull? Well, no, no, no, no. But like this is a peak cake. Yeah. So let me, there's no food. It's like, we'll let him have cake and it's like, you're so detached from reality. There's people with so much wealth and people are struggling to have jobs. And eventually you just push people to the point, like, and I said, there's one of us about a bunch. It's like, it's actually in the wealthy people of this country's best interests that poor people are not struggling because they will be the first people to exact that revenge, however they do it. All I'm saying. That being said, we hope that those aren't the measures taken because there can be people equally upset about a type of music, right? Have you met a music radicalized my kid? And then he did something like that. So now I'm going to go shoot this fucking, this like John Lennon gets shot in the fucking street. Like there are crazy people to do these things. And it's like while they're incredibly real circumstances, before talking to this guy, yes, we've read his manifesto. Like yes, we've read this and it's like, we can understand these things and he's absolutely, but like I know from personal situations, people who deal with mental illness are incredibly radicalized by things because it feeds the anxiety that they already have, right? So it's like they think that, you know, they're dealing with this unbelievable anxiety and then they all start thinking, okay, God is talking to me or these certain people are influencing me. And then their behavior is kind of out of whack with society. It's you know, we have to find a way to, we have to find a way to take care of you. Yeah, because we should all be asking ourselves, why do these things keep happening? They're not happening because of rhetoric, guys. I don't believe that. I don't believe they're happening because of rhetoric because the reality is who on the left is, is what, who's saying that kind of rhetoric? Like they keep using all you, you call them a fascist or you call them Hitler. Like that, I don't, that don't have anything to do with it, bro. It's the things that you're ignoring, like to have steam files. The guy said it in the manifesto. If there's this whole big document out there that is literally unearthing this huge pedophile child sexual abuse ring. Yeah. And nobody is being held accountable for it. It's just like in New Jack City when that dude was like, man, y'all that old man, y'all ain't gonna do shit. I'm gonna take, so I'm gonna take this shit into my own hands. That's what I see from this situation. Right. Yeah. So you're watching a person who feels like America's justice system isn't working. So I'm gonna be fucking Batman. Well clearly, I'm gonna be fucking daredevil. Clearly, it isn't working. Clearly it is. That's all I'm saying. It's like, I feel like we, like, and not we, but I feel like sometimes the media does everything to avoid the hard conversation. Because all the news networks, you have to ignore that manifesto, because if you bring up that manifesto, then you gotta start talking about what? Epstein, none of you didn't want to talk about it. Why don't they? Why don't they? Shit, at this point, at this point, everybody's, this administration got they thumb on the scale. CBS, CNN, you know Fox not gonna do it. MS now, I don't even know what the fuck they got going on over there. Well, the only person having those conversations is still this, the YouTube podcast space. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. What else we got? What else we got? You want to do some asking idiots? Let's do it. We got another actress. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York. Jeldermist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. No tightness No stickiness, no residue. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York. Maybe it's Maybelline. Let's do some asking idiots, Mike. Let's do it. Yes, sir. Ask an idiot Instagram. Big fellow underscore me says, one of the next guests on idiots we need Donnell back hell of a shout out Donnell, man. When I come here to do it is I don't want to kick it with my guy. It's a tough thing. Donnell is, I will say unique in that he has history on the show. Yes. So if we have people, it's probably just people who fit into that. But it's not exactly like an interview show. It's just us kind of here waxing poetic. You got to know, you got to be a brilliant idiot yourself. Exactly. Like, like just starting people, I do like, like you said, Donnell, glasses Malone. Oh, glasses. I like glasses. Always like glasses. Zorrie back in the days. Zorrie hall was a good brand idiot's guest. I don't know if Zorrie will do brilliantly is at this point in her career. Now we get her back, huh? That's my girl. I love Zorrie. I thought Zorrie out there was talking to her yesterday. I love Ryan Davis when he came on. Ryan is a brilliant idiot. Ryan was good. Yes, he does. Ryan was good. But yeah. So you never know who knows? Andrew the outlaw, Andrew, have you ever bombed in what was the most memorable one? Oh, yes. So many times, man. Oh my God. Let me think of like a really good way. Like a really good, good bomb. I'm not told a million times but when I got punched, I had a bottle thrown at me on stage. I had a lit candle thrown at me while I was on stage. And I saw the candle light go out as it was approaching. So like the wind from the throw made it go out. I'm trying to think of like a fucking really good, like a really good, painful bomb. Okay. Let's circle back on me and that. I'm going to, I'm going to think about that. Brown underscore butter too with one of the ultimate greatest brilliant idiot questions I've seen in a long time locked in the room with Dennis Robyn on Mike Tyson both coped up on Bluetooth in their prime. Who who comes fast? I'm taking Dennis. I think I got a better chance fighting Dennis. Mike in his prime. I think I got a better chance with Dennis. Losing to both. The question is like, nah, I say Losing. It says locked in the room with Dennis Robyn on Mike Tyson both coped up on Bluetooth in prime. I think I could take Dennis. We're talking about sexually or what? Well, you got to understand you're not asking me what I'm going to do to him to get about that room. What is he going to do to you is, of course. No, no, no, I see. See, I've watched a first boss looped the little Dicky Dave. He has an episode. I think it's called pause. Okay. Well, he gets out of a prison rate through great episode, great episode by offering to give consensual head. And then he goes down any bites that mother fuck off. Oh, he bites it. He bites it all. I mean, ribs, I mean, bites that head off, spits it out. You see the big, dickhead fly across the goddamn room shot. Yes, when I love that show so much, not because it's just that episode, but his podcast with Benny Blanco. Oh, it's really interesting. Really good. I've gotten into it over the last. They're committed. Like they actually do it. And at first, it seems just too loose to all over the place, but they dialed it in. It styled in and they're getting a good mix of guests and the people are opening up. It's a good show. Really? I mean, I've seen clips though, but I've never watched it. But yeah, I'm going in there with Dennis. Yeah. And that's how that's how I don't know if I would try that with Dennis. That's actually more of a mic move. Yeah. Me and Dennis got to go head up scrapping first. Because he's he's taller than me. So I don't have to hit him in the face. All of this is open, baby. Kidney shots, ribs. I'm going to the gut with it. All of the dick. Like, I feel like I can drop him with some body shots and get him the fuck up off me. I love that confidence. I love that. And you trying to fight with a hard dick, you blew tuned to fuck up and coke. The crazy combination. Yeah. But you're going to need to get something out of that dick, man. Because here's the thing. Who do you think lasts longer and sex? Like Mike is known for first round knockings. So I feel like exactly. So if you're in there with Dennis, he's going to take you for hours. If he wants. I'm going to grab on his dick and swing. He's six, ten. Yeah. I'm five, six. Yeah. I'll latch on to that motherfucker and start doing pull-ups. I will not let go. You remember on fucking that Friday movie when fucking cat wounds had that goddamn wrench or whatever it was. And he locked it on the Terry Cruises balls. Okay. That's how I would latch on to his dick with both of my hands. Okay. And he got it. Now you got to make decisions. Because I'm not letting go. Hit me all you want. I'm not letting the fuck go. I know a great bomb story. It's not even that great story. There's no like ending that's fun, but I was in Columbus, Ohio and I was bombing so bad. Why did Dick make you think about that? Why didn't he swing on somebody's dick make you think about that? I'm trying to think. I don't know. The pain. Okay. Yeah. The pain. And I remember I was just bombing so bad that at a certain point, I was bombing for so long that I just got bored. Because it was like, now we all bored. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like I wasn't even trying to win him over. And I actually I put the stool on the stage and then I got and I stood up on the stool. So I just I did I stood on it with my feet. So now I'm standing on the stage and then on top of the stool. And I probably did like the last like 20 minutes just standing on the stool. Damn. Just anything to keep like. That sounded easy to be honest. Well, I think there was like a local aspect. I think in my head, I was like, I need to I need a challenge. Right. And I'm not winning this one. So I need a different physical challenge. But oh man, that was a fucking that was one where you're like, you think about that. What did you learn from that experience? I learned it. He didn't like an ice cream cookie sandwich after at the hotel. Oh, that that that almost takes it away. Man, like I you know, like the spunk my or something like that is like a chocolate chip cookie ice cream sandwich. And I remember I took down one of those man. That's why you're as accessible comic. You know many comics would want to okay. You want to add nice ice cream sugar. You need some sugar. You know, saying I book a sugar just a nice regular sugar to hit you. I got halfway through that sandwich bro. And I was like, I'll get I'll get them next time. I'm pretty good at comedy. I got good balance. Quame Mersey underscores says, what is the guess thing you thought about the day? Swinging on Dennis Rodman's dick? Yeah. You know, Biden. Our age to great says, do you think hip-hop would be the same today? If 50 cent outsold Kanye in 2007. Fantastic question. The reason that is a fantastic question is because I feel like that was the moment the music industry shifted away from hardcore gangster street rap and decided to try to find more people who fit the Kanye aesthetic. And that's where you get your drinks, your kindricks, your coals, your wallets, your cutties, you know, all of those individuals like that who literally essentially were the sound of shit since then, really? Like the game hasn't shifted back the street culture rap with not really. I would say with the girls a little bit. Explain. Like sexy. You know, I'm like, there's been Glorilla, like there's been a little bit more to I think that's I think that's Nikki and Cardi though. That's like downstream from Nikki. Yeah, I give Nikki and Cardi, but I don't see Nikki as like a street like Memphis. You should cut, you know, like that whole scene. The drill scene. Yeah, that's who's pretty gangster. And it is, but it's not mainstream. Exactly. It hasn't. They didn't have to say they didn't have to success with DMX, a 50 cent, a GZ like TI as anybody. Who's that? Just from a spear of sales. Drake, not a street rapper, not a future. Oh, when you said has anyone, did you mean has any genre of rap or has anybody streamed? I really meant across the board. Not even Drake. Kendrick. Oh, you know, like he hasn't sold his man. It's impossible to sell. It's a different type of sale, different type of sale. But you could make the argument that more people are consuming their music, then we're consuming musically, you'd rather have a career like Drake and DMX. Sure. Musically, you'd rather have a career like DMX sold more records, I'm sure. Yeah, but like physical copies. But it's like actual hours of the music consumed. I think these artists are just because of the access. It's not even close. It's not even close. The career that a Kendrick have had, a Cole have had, Drake have had, these guys have been consistently hot for a decade plus. Like they weren't a few albums and didn't longer. Yeah, it's not even close. Yeah, that's another thing like longevity and music, especially in what's popular. Pop music is usually a few year window for something new, cool and rebellious. Yes. And I'm putting rap in the pop category as it became like the foremost genre of music consumed in the world. To be able to do that over one decade is incredibly impressive. To be able to do that over two decades. I don't know like how many rock bands. I can tell you I put together a spreadsheet on this one. Tell me please, like that's a so the artist that I calculated had the greatest longevity of all times Elton John. And then Stevie Wonder is up there. I mean, Stevie Wonder was first as a lure like in 1962, 1963. Sure. And he had a very strong run into the late 80s. Patty LeBelle. I think my I don't think she had even enough of a long time. I think there's number one. I might I might be make, sorry, go miles. Rolling stone. Stones, 63, two about 83. Yeah, but they toured up until a tour and can't count touring. You have to count. I'm talking number one. Yes, that is the impressive thing. Seems to be the guy. And Ellen did something with M even later in his band. Well, but he wasn't on the original song. He did that at the ground. Right. You're right. But yeah, yeah. I'm trying to find this spreadsheet. Actually, let's let's end on this because that's a good note. That's a segue into this. Because this is long, long jeopardy, right? This is I thought this was good. Jayly did interview with the New York Times. Listen, what he said. Remember hip-hop was about the gift of discovery. That was it. When you went to school, you couldn't have the person out of was already good. You have to say, yo, I got the new tape of somebody you never heard of. And it's in it. And it actually told the story of you. That's why hip-hop, it came so big because everyone wanted to feel those feelings. I tell people at times, never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done, but they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity. As opposed to telling their story, we needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you have had four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? Like, how do you interact with them? That's this hip-hop dad. But if you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's going to be an authentic and people could feel it. You can smell it. You know how Elton John continues to have number ones, decade after decade after decade by leaning into whoever he is in the moment. Not by trying to recreate something that he made before going into the studio and trying to do the sound that all the young people are doing. Let me lean in to who I am in this moment. When you're having these conversations about longevity, that's what this is. The people who will be around in any industry are the people who are not afraid to grow, evolve, and give you themselves on that journey, give you a piece of themselves every moment of that journey. I'm not the same as I was when I was 20. I'm not the same as I was when I was in my 30s. I'm not the same as I was when I was in my 40s. Name, name them. I guarantee if you watch, go wash the pale killing me softly and wash the pale now. It's not the same person. Things he talks about are different. Andrew, you couldn't make the life. You couldn't do it ten years ago. Obviously not. But the reason you were able to make the life because you lived life. You leaned into who you were as a late 30s, early 40s, something your old man, trying to have a baby with your now wife. That's how you continue to have longevity. It's so funny because I'm watching people talk about that Jay-Z clip, and it's just, I don't know how y'all turn this into, he's hating on Drake or anybody. He's literally telling everyone how to maintain longevity. 444 sounds, nothing like reasonable doubt. But isn't that an indictment of the consumer, not of Jay-Z? The consumer hasn't grown. Well, the consumer's still young, man. I don't even mean that. If you immediately jump to Drake, is that how you feel about Drake's music? That's a great point. He's probably spent himself in his position. Absolutely right. But if your knee jerk reactions to either defend Drake or hate don't drink whatever it is. Fantastic point. I think that says more to how you see him. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you think that he's, why would you think Jay-Z's talking about Drake? Do you feel like Drake makes too much money? Like the Trump pedophile question. Yes. Yes. Where was that? The reporter from CBS said in the manifesto, they said that government is wrong by pedophiles and murderers. I am not a pedophile. I'm not a rapist. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody. I'm not a pedophile. Excuse me. I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with all stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto. It's a sick But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things. Oh, Did you think he was talking about you exactly? Oh you incriminate yourself? Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. For that. I'm not a cook And why was somebody saying there's crooks and all that? Yeah, they're accusing him and then he says I'm not a cook and then That's like he's a real quote that got him cooked and they were saying that was trumps. I'm not a crook. And I think I correct myself very quickly I found this spreadsheet. Uh-huh. Uh, it's actually Paul McCartney. That was my guest. First number one hit 1963 last one 2016 54 year run. That's a number of 2016 ones. We can't get him right? Yep. Yes, unbelievable. Elton John had a 28. David Bowie actually had a 48 year run, too. Yeah. So out of contemporary artists It's really Taylor Swift Rihanna and Beyonce actually an 18 year run. I'm believe wow if you look at her hits By the way, all artists who are not afraid to grow not afraid to evolve. They don't sound the same as they did on their first albums. They're talking to you about their life experiences. When Jay-Z said it's so true, talk to me about being a dad. Talk to me about, you know, being married. It don't matter if it's boring to people, because it won't be boring to everybody. - I definitely think that like Taylor Swift, for example, has changed musically. I don't know if she's changed. And I'm not the biggest Taylor fan, but like, I think the criticism would be like, oh, you're talking about this heartbreak from this last relationship you went through. But that is the reflection of her life. - Maybe you're getting to see, you're hearing about these things she's experiencing, and then you're getting to see like the creative version of it. - So maybe that's enough girl. - I just want everybody to not be afraid to act their age. That's how you have longevity. That's how you have growth. That's how you have evolution. I promise you, if I was still-- - Your fans are getting old too. - Your fans are getting old. And by the way, me and Duval was just talking about this the other day, man. You got a bunch of older people who try to cater to young people. The young people, if you're catering to young people, that's actually changes every three, four years, because you're older much longer than you are younger. That young shit is only like a four, five-year window when you're actually considered young. You might be younger than other people. But young to me is teenage, it's about 19. After that, you're not really considered young anymore. The game changes, the game moves. If all the OGs are trying to act like the young people, who are the young people going to look up to? - Yeah. - Also, you don't have to make art about your lifestyle or your experience. I mean, we talked about Elton John. Elton John's never written a song in his life. He had a writer who would, you know, Benny and the Jets, what the fuck was that? - So he had ideas, though. - No, Bernie Kappin. He famously had it. He just cares about the music. It's all about the melody and the song. He does-- - Gotta have an idea. I can't believe Elton's never gone to the studio. He always said, "Yo, I got an idea for a song." - Look up, look up, Bernie Kappin is a long time collaborator. - I mean, did Frank Sinatra write? - Frank Sinatra doesn't write songs. Beyonce doesn't write songs. - Beyonce has mad ideas. Beyonce produces. - But my point is-- - Michael had writers, too. Michael Jackson, but he had ideas. - The art is in the song. It's in the melody. It's in the chorus. It's in how it makes you feel. It's not directly tied into like, "Well, I'm 20 now." So this is what's happened to me at 20, and I'm 40 now. This is what-- - That's where rap is unique, I would say. - But also limited. - Yes, that is true. - It's limiting and that's what I think. - Like having a go-go. - I think it's limited because you have a lot of people who until recently were afraid to grow. This is the first time we've seen Jay-Z on "444 Talk" like this. Kendrick LeWar, Mr. Miranda, big step. He's much younger than a lot of these guys, but it's the here's somebody to talk about the things he talked about on that album. Different nods. He's literally talking about having brunch on Sundays. That's great content. - Yeah, but common. - The clips when they-- - What are 90% of number one songs about at the end of the day? - Depends. - No, I mean, there's always one. - Girls love. - Love. - Emotion. - Yeah. - That's it. - You've got about clothes or brunch or whatever. - Yeah. - Just think about falling in love. - Yeah, but think about breaking up. That's it. That's the form. - Most relatable stuff. - It's the most relatable thing, but you've got to live life to do it. - Yeah. - The human experience. - Yeah. - The real human experience will always have people gravitate towards you. And to me, that's what causes longevity. If you're around long enough to continue to just-- to let people come on your journey with you and just give them the real human experience of your life, I don't think you can lose like that in any way, shape or form. And I'm telling you, a lot of y'all right now, y'all gonna look real stupid in the future because y'all are afraid to grow up. And some of these people right now that are commentating don't even realize how much the game has already passed them by because there's other people out there in the space that folks are going to for what they once went to you for. Because you're still trying to play that young man's aim instead of growing, evolving and showing people where you are now. I know for a fact, I couldn't be in the space that I'm in now. If I was still doing shit that I was doing 10, 12 years ago. - Yeah. - Imagine me at 47 sniffing seats. It would be hilarious. - No, at one, y'all motherfuckers would be like get the, all right, that motherfucker's not in the files. - Yeah. - Oh, where's that motherfucker? Like, no, no. As always, man, if you listen to this podcast, think what smart you think or intelligent, you think we're brewing, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brewing of this podcast. Thank you for listening. Meet new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin, that still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Maybe it's Mavily.