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Ramy Youssef is Your Elmo-Approved Muslim

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Ramy Youssef is Your Elmo-Approved Muslim

The interview features a candid, self-reflective conversation about personal vulnerabilities, cultural identity, and digital privacy. The host shares a nostalgic childhood crush on Lola Bunny from Space Jam, acknowledging that the attraction remains with him despite being a married father. He reflects on how such personal truths—like a crush on Meg Ryan—can be seen as inappropriate or "perverted" by his wife, leading to emotional tension. The discussion expands to broader themes of privacy, with the host advocating for protective measures like rejecting cookies or wearing a burka in a digitally invasive world. He credits Islam as a future-proof spiritual framework that helps him resist addiction and maintain emotional balance. Personal anecdotes about family life, including parents’ phone addiction and shared memories of old tapes, highlight the value of emotional authenticity. The conversation also explores New Jersey’s culture, history, and political quirks, including its sports betting industry and local trivia. Ultimately, the host emphasizes compassion and vulnerability, arguing that people are fundamentally good, even when affected by systems or trauma. Through humor and honesty, the dialogue blends personal confession with cultural critique, offering a heartfelt exploration of identity, connection, and resilience in a complex modern world.

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(soft piano music) - Lemonade. - Uh-huh. - And Bina was so disgusted. She's like, "Cross, blow the bunny." That's what you're into. You're into this perverted. - Bunny. - Bunny rabbit. And I was like, "How could I, how could I let my guard down?" - Just a question about the attraction. Was this like, you were talking about when you were a kid or is it a current? - No, no. - I was saying as a kid. I totally understood why Bugs Bunny was attracted to her. And, sure, I get it. If I also was an animated cartoon, yeah, I'd be attracted. She can hoop. - Right. - She's like, fun and beautiful. - But for the record, beautiful. - Where's your attraction currently stand for Lola? - As a 40 year old adult man that's married with two children. - Yeah. - Yeah, she's fly. - Yeah, I think it feels like it's still going on. - I mean, if you're asking me, do I think Lola Bunny's a trick? Yeah, she's attracted for a basket ball playing bunny rabbit, yes. But why is this a bad thing to say? - I'd be honest, bro, for you is the kind of thing I would edit out. Don't let this go there. - Probably no Ramayusif as an accomplished actor, comedian, director, and show creator. He's won a Peabody and a Golden Globe and called for a ceasefire. Live on SNL. - Free the people of Palestine, please. (audience cheering) - But the accomplishment I'm most proud of him for, he got Elmo to say Assalamualaikum. - Uh, Mr. Brahmi, what is Assalamualaikum mean? - Well, Assalam means peace. And it's a way to say hello in Arabic. - Oh cool, oh, Assalamualaikum everybody. - Not only was this a beautiful lesson for American children to embrace and celebrate other cultures, it made Fox News lose their sh*t. - Uh, Lauren. - Next Bert Nerni will be praying five times a day on Sesame Street facing East. - Listen, Sesame Workshop, if you bring me on, I will get Oster the Grouch to take the Shahada. So I sit down with my Elmo approved friend to talk about his new HBO special in love. Now streaming, which has some pretty spicy takes. - There's cameras everywhere. They're watching everything you do. They're listening to everything you do. How do you protect your image? - The only thing I could think of was the, the Berka. - We also went deep on my childhood crush Lola Bunny from Space Jam. And this has never happened before. But in the middle of the interview, he left for a bathroom break. (chirping) And to be clear, I am totally fine with my guests taking bathroom breaks and my viewers. Although half of you are already watching this on the toilet, so, hi there. ♪ Hurry right away ♪ ♪ Only they stop me ♪ ♪ Make your daddy pass ♪ ♪ And pass on your hands ♪ - I, um, I forgot my, uh, forgot my wedding ring. Yeah, it's at the house. - Can I get a ring? - No, I don't, I don't need that. - Yeah, I don't, I can't wear your ring, no. - You know what's crazy is there's not, there's not even a mark. - Yeah, it's, what the hell? - Yeah, I know, I forgot it. 'Cause I always forget it. - No, he's gotta leave a, it's gotta leave an indelible. - I know, I know, when I take, when I, I take it off always to wash my hands, and then a lot of times I'll forget it at the sink. And I've left it in sinks that I'm like out. Cat face sink. Go back the next day. - You've been at a, like a, a Grand Lux Cafe bathroom. - Yeah, I take the ring off to wash my hands. And then. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, 'cause I don't like the idea of like soap getting caught under the ring. You know, it just gets kind of, so I wanna do a thorough. And then I'll start thinking about something else. And then I'll, later in the day I go, oh, I left it at this cafe. And then I go back. - And they found it? - Yeah, it's, it's happened too many times. When I travel, I don't, I just leave it at home because I don't wanna leave it, you know, in another country or in another state. - Yeah. - Can I say your wife's name or not? - I'd rather not. - How does your wife, how does your wife feel? Is she, wifey's cool with this? - She goes leave the ring at home. Yeah, she goes just leave it. Yeah, she goes, just don't even. - No, bro, you gotta rock it. I use it as a power move. I think I just wanna get a backup ring. - I'll be on set, I'll be on set, and I will be in a scene. I'll go, "Hey, can someone take this?" (laughs) Hey, can someone take the sign of (laughs) unfalable love? And do people kinda look at you like, "Wow, he's a married guy." - I don't even know what that thing is. I don't even know what that thing is. But I just do it for the flex. All right, you wanna know a fun fact? I'm gonna put you on the spot right now. - Please. - You know what's so crazy is, we tried to get you on the show last year and you said no. - No way. - 100% yes. - No way. - You know how wild it is to invite you on the show and then we kick it two days later? And then I don't mention that. - That didn't get, I mean it didn't get to me 'cause I asked to be on the show. This year I said, "Hey, I really wanna be on it." And actually I've been watching the podcast going, "Why am I not on this podcast?" - Yeah, why not? - No, no, this was a miscommunication. I'm 100%. - I never personally asked 'cause my heart can't take the no. - No, no, no. - I never personally asked. - I'll tell you what might have happened. - What might have happened? - I'll tell you what might happen. Sometimes I hit a wall, you know, where I just go, I can't keep talking about myself. - Whatever it is. - And so sometimes I'll go, "Hey, this is the last day I'm gonna do a thing." And I don't wanna do anything afterwards. I'm guessing it must have been that. Because I've been watching this podcast for a year going, this is kind of weird. The guy never asked me to be on it. What's going on? - Well, why don't you confront me about this? Bro, we see each other all the time. Why don't you, because I don't actually, 'cause when I see you, I'm just happy to see you. You on the podcast is a different thing. It's a whole other entity. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, you confront me, by the way. Like that is an emotional language that I respond to. - Convertation. - Convertations. - I have other friends that don't respond to it, but it's my conversation. - Yeah, no, I don't mind. To me, I don't even view this confrontation. It's just like talking. - Yeah, it's truly just the conversation. - Yeah, no, but you get it. - I do get it. - No, the air is clear. - But hey, can I tell you what I don't get? - Tell me. - It's like a 12-month gap you were on the show. - It was on the show. - And then I see you pop up on Neil's podcast, and then Neil shares an intimate story that I shared on his show about how sometimes, at night, I don't brush my teeth before I go to bed. I'll be up late, and I'll be like, fuck it, I'm just gonna go to bed. And then you were like, that's kind of gross. It's actually kind of disgusting that Hussin does that. Did this happen? - This happened. - We talked about you not brushing your teeth. - Yeah, let's go to the clip. - You know, Hassan Manage doesn't brush his teeth some nights. It's the creepiest thing anyone's ever said on this show. - He also seems so clean. - You throw your boy under the bus. You just, you yes and it, you retweet it. You're like, yeah, that is fucking gross. - I mean, you really gotta brush your teeth before you go to bed. - I'm saying on an occasion or two, you've never done that where you stay up, say up super late, say up, you stay up super late. And you're like, you know what, I'm a lot of rock. - I guess I think certain things should be hidden, and that would be one of them. - That's fair. - Certain things can't be promoted, you know what I mean? And I think dental health is crucial. I've seen a lot of people fall to dental issues in my family, in their older age. So maybe it's one for me, you ever see that? You ever just see like a couple root canals, take out your grandpa, you go, oh my god, this guy's still dealing with dentist stuff. - You are right, there is a, it's tragic. - There is a generational thing where you're like, oh dude, just he's just a lot of guns. - All people in our family just falling at the dentist, and it's just this crazy quality of life, you know? So, I guess I didn't realize actually how emotional I am about this issue. - Yeah, and it wasn't, you're right. And it maybe it was a different, and it does make me think about like, you guys didn't have toothpaste? - No, no, this is, on, this is just skyrocketed to the top of things I care about. It's like, it's like plaque and Palestine. These are very important issues for me. - Topped issues. - Yeah, and they have to be solved. - I told you this before, this is one of my favorite specials that you've done. I think it's one of your funniest specials. Funniest and the most personal and spiritual. You talk about many things in the special that I'm dealing with right now. The first is getting our parents off the goddamn internet. Oh, this is a huge, huge, yeah. - Well, you know, cell phone games are mainly used by moms. Moms are low key the biggest gamers. - On Candy Crush and all that stuff. - Yeah, they're doing crazy numbers. They're paying in ways you would never imagine. Moms are low key spending their social security on Candy Crush and these games that you'd buy more jewels with and stuff like that. - Yeah. - Ask any mom if she wants a piece of jewelry or if she wants, you know, just get some royal kingdom. So yeah, ask any mom what she wants. She'll buy me some crystals on this phone game. This is the world that we're in. - Do you do that thing where you visit your parents and they're like, "Hey, you need to see us. "You need to see us more than you get home "and both your parents are on the phone all the time." - Yeah, it's kind of internet cafe vibe. - Oh, you go all the way over the family? - Yeah, just visiting the family. Everyone's got their own device, doing their thing. And then, you know, you show up and incredible food. - Yeah. - So loving, pray together, then play together, right? Where we get our phones out, pop in the games. My dad has word puzzle. He's just doing words. - Yeah. - You know, he knows how to word combo. - Well, you're talking about wordle? Your dad's doing it. - He's not like wordle. Have you seen it? It's a circle with all these letters. And it's just, you make words with the letters, you know? And so it's kind of incredible, actually, because for a guy who grew up in Egypt, his command of the English language is incredible. Now, because of this game, he just knows all these really obscure words. - Okay. - Because, you know, he wants to win the game. - And then, and then your mom's on just like, - Yeah, these candy crush, magic kingdom. - Roaking down, candy crush, all that kind of stuff. - Yeah, yeah, she's really, you know, high ranks too. - God, I'm proud. Like, I kind of looked at the global chart. - Yeah. - She's doing it. It's like her, there's some numbers out of Russia. - Uh-huh. - But she's in that kind of top 30 global. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, that is kind of unexpected. - No, no, it's inspiring. - And you're like, yeah. - Yeah, it makes me think this is a family of excellence. Just in terms of what we're kind of able to do. - What you're capable of. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just putting in numbers. - Bravo. That's a new way to think about it. That's how I think about it. There's sometimes you go, guys, can you get outside, go for a walk. Then you see the global rank and you go, keep clicking, you know, like just keep going. - I've had this philosophical situation that I've had with my parents where I was like, they're so addicted to their phones. I'm like, would you take a kidney transplant or a brand new iPhone 17 Pro Max 512 gigabyte? - Yeah. Dude, why are you putting them in that situation? You make money. - You make money, I know you make money. - You're saying I can do both. - You easily could do both. I want to put them in hardcore binary situations. - Why are you trying to be a brown dad to your own parents? - That's what I've become, bro, because I'm the kidney and the phone. - No, because they go on Facebook and then this is their goddamn gateway. - Let them be on Facebook. - I'll see them like this. Facebook was the gateway drug. - Okay, so this is doing a lot, right? So this is awesome photograph, right? It's obviously fake. - Yes, 100%. - And awesome. - It is awesome. - It is objectively awesome. - I mean, look, the 60.2000 likes the crazy part. - That's crazy. - No, it's crazy, but I mean, dude, the dog is skiing, right? And whether that's real or not at this point is, I mean, dude, remember when we were kids, did you ever go to Barnes & Noble when Harry Potter books were coming out? - I didn't wait, but. - I was waiting, my parents would bring me. They go, "We know you love Harry Potter. "We're gonna bring you to Barnes & Noble at midnight, "and you're gonna get that book that you want." - Yeah. - Let them like this shit. - This is where they're at. - You're gonna compare AI Slop to you waiting in line for. - Harry Potter. - Harry Potter and. - Well, look, both are fake and both make people happy. - Okay. - You know? - So it's like. - It's true. - Yeah, and my mom now actually has more faith in what could happen on her. She thinks animals can do all these incredible things. Drive. - You have this great joke in the special where you talk about how Islam is future proof? - The Borka AI bit is amazing. - Yeah, the bit is just, I was really shocked. You know, I don't have a Twitter account that's. I have one that's for just basketball. So it's, I go on, my whole feet is mainly LeBron. And then sometimes Israel. - Okay. So obviously it was a field day when LeBron got on there and was like, I've heard nothing but good things about Israel, which was a hilarious take. - Sure. - That's up there with his first page, every book he's on. - First page, every book. - You know, see, then you kind of go, you've heard nothing but good things. That's wild, you know? But, so I have this, this, this, you know, ex account and I'll go on there just to see sports stuff. And I got really disturbed by this grok thing 'cause they're just any woman's photo and it's getting manipulated and then they go, we're fixing it or we're handling it or we're doing whatever. And then you go, wait, we're in this highly digitized society now. There's cameras everywhere. How do you stop yourself from being literally turned into pornography? 'Cause that's what we're barreling towards. That's what's happening now. And, do you have the only thing I could think of was the, the burka? What do you hand do? - Yeah. - All the fall you got to my eyes. - All right. - And I think men should wear it too. 'Cause I, and you know what it's like being a prominent guy. - And being objective. - You've been sexualized. This is why I mean, I have my wedding ring today. It's really devastating for me. I don't know what people are gonna do. - It's things a really important thing. - Totally. - It's a finger hijop. - And now I'm walking around, just naked, you know. And so this for me is not. - It's not a good look. People think you're a man of the street. - Yeah, yeah. - No, it's not good. - A full-anderer, yeah, totally. - So, you know, my argument is not about gender. It's about privacy. And that's where I go, wow. We were kind of onto something. - That was the original reject all. You know, sometimes you go to these websites, especially when you travel internationally. - I'm not sharing cookies, not sharing cookies. - Reject all cookies. - That is, the book is the ultimate no cookies. - Reject all. - Yeah. - Reject all. - Yeah, so I'm not, this is a privacy argument. You know, it's like wearing a VPN. - 100%. - I actually love framing Islam as being future proof for many problems. Do you have other issues that you use? 'Cause I don't like arguing about the past. Sometimes people come up to me and try to debate me about like, well, what does this passage mean? What does this passage mean? Like, listen, bro, it saved me from online gambling. You have a DraftKings problem. I don't. - Yeah. - That is. - Uncut gems has no application to me. Do you see what I'm saying? - Yeah. - I'm future proof. - Yeah, it is, it does stop a DraftKings addiction. - Do you have any things that you feel you're like, already future proof, handled? - Because of Islam. - Well, it's interesting, right? Intermittent fasting, we've been on it. - Been on it. - The whole '69. - It's been doing it. - Yeah, I can eat for nine, but then I don't eat it. - It's like done. I mean, the whole concept of a spiritual construct that says, hey, don't believe in what you can see, ponder on the unseen. Look what you can see. Dog is skiing. - Dog is skiing. - Next to a baby that's the same size. - Yeah, let me close my eyes. I think that might be a more real image at this point. - Yeah, yeah. - Right. - This is cool, but we know it's not real. Yeah, just even the idea of the unseen being more real than what we're seeing with our own eyes. - There's an interesting thing to think about though, which is, you know, a lot of times when you, like you ever see this in sports where records keep getting broken. And then once an athlete knows that that record could be reached, they end up surpassing it. - Right, yeah. - And so there is a part of you that has to wonder with all these images. Are some of these dogs gonna go, can I ski? Can I go Alpine skiing? - And that's I think the kind of thing that we gotta figure out over the next five to 10. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Are some of these dogs gonna see these images and go, you know what? Let me do that. - You can show that image to Basha. - Go. - I will. I try to show my dog a lot of these AI things, just to kind of see, bro. You're gonna step up, 'cause your peers are really doing a lot of things. - You could be something. - You could be doing these things. Yeah, yeah, which, you know, I don't know, maybe it's a faulty premise, because obviously any of these dogs could have been watching Airbud and getting inspired. - Sure. - And it obviously haven't for many years. - They haven't dunked. - We're kind of yet to see a golden break into any league. - One can hope, you have a whole beat in the show that I really loved. Once again, you like, you really play with the audience's expectations of stuff and you talk about, you're like, "Hey, my wife's my best friend." Isn't that right, fellas? - You get a lot of like, guys going, actually, yeah. - Yeah. - I'm a best friend for being a best friend. You talked about how you have this opportunity to cry in front of someone. The world doesn't let you cry. You can't just be out here crying in front of the boys. They may not have the emotional vulnerability to accept you, but you talked about there's a critical moment once you cross a particular amount of crying. - Yeah. - She'll go, "What the fuck is wrong with you?" - Yeah. - Question in your sexuality. - Yeah. - It reminded me of some wife thoughts that I had, some moments where I was sharing details with my wife. I thought we were cool. - Got weaponized later. Give me an example. Beena loves Anastasia. The animated movie. I'm not gonna lie, I love Anastasia. - Yeah, it's incredible. - It's a great movie. It's oddly very dark. - Totally. - It's got a whole European vibe. - Yeah. - It's like, it's extremely dark. It's moody. - It affected me as a child. - Yeah. But then also, the bat is super cute and funny. There's comedy in it. There's demons. It's actually a great film. And I opened up a little bit. I was like, "Beena, I actually wanted to let you know, "I like Meg Ryan became my first crush "because Meg Ryan's the voice of Anastasia. "I just want to let you know." We kind of brought us closer together. She loves Anastasia. I love Anastasia. I was like, "I had a crush on her. "It's fun." - And this made you cry? - The Meg Ryan crush. - That made me cry. But I'll tell you when she turned on me. So we're watching Space Jam, the first one. And I'm opening up to her. I was like, "Yeah, like Lola Bunny is kind of fly. "Like I'm into Lola Bunny." She was really quite attractive. And Beena was so disgusted. She's like, "Cross." Like, they completely sexualized Lola Bunny. That's what you're into. You're into this perverted bunny rabbit. And I was like, "How could I, "how could I let my guard down to let you in on this?" - Right. - Yeah, I think I weaponized. Just a question about the attraction. - No. I was saying as a kid. And sure, I get it if I also was an animated cartoon. - Yeah, I'd be attracted, she can hoop. - Right. - She's like fun. - Where does your attraction currently stand for Lola? - As a 40-year-old adult man that's married with two children? - Yeah. - Yeah, she's fly. - Yeah, I think it's still going on. - I mean, if you're asking me, do I think Lola bunnies a trick? Yeah, she's attractive for a basketball playing bunny rabbit, yes. - I'd be honest, but for you, this is the kind of thing I would edit out. Don't let this go to air. This is, this should have stayed in the house. 'Cause I don't even know, I'm trying to understand the implications of one of this. - Walk me through this. - So all of a sudden, I'm like, I could admit that I had a crush on Meg Ryan as a kid. I wasn't even aware who she was based on her voice alone. - I know, but in Anastasia, she's a human woman. - Right? - Is a human woman. - Okay. - And then on the other side, you have-- - It's a bunny rabbit. - Next up bunny, right? - Bro, they're both cartoons. So why does this-- - Yeah, but the distance you're going and the fact that it's still ongoing. - Oh, so you're saying-- - That's what it's kind of. - You're saying that Anastasia as a cartoon woman is more real and then as soon as you're getting into Lola bunny, this is turning into some weird hand-tie shit. Is that what you're saying? - And I'm not even judging the hand-tie community. I'm just saying, where do you want people to, how do you want to be viewed? - All right. There are certain things, maybe you're private. That's all I'm saying. But this seems to have never stopped for you. - I'm trying to even think of a way out of it, but I was like, yeah, I guess I kind of was. - Yeah, this is where you're at. - In 1996, yeah, it was in love with the bunny guy. - No, no, don't, don't-- - Oh, you want 96 it. - Oh, okay, you want me to own it. You want me to own it, right? - It's 26. - Yeah, this is a 26. - Yeah, it's not a 96, it's a 26, you know. - Oh, can I do two tangents with you? - Can I pee? - You want to pee? - Yeah, is that okay? 'Cause I drank so much of the-- - There you go, go ahead. - Of the water. - Go ahead, there you go. (electronic music) - Bro, doing the bathroom break in the middle of the power. - Oh my God, when you got a pee. - I've never done that. - You never pee? - You never pee? - I pee, I pee, but I've never done it. But mid, that's the power move. I can't, that's the power move. - I want to give you everything. You know, I don't want to be thinking about that, I have to pee. - Sometimes we're both framed as like political comedians. By virtue of what we do in the media. Now, I get where it's put on me, especially from the daily little Patriot ad and all that stuff. - Yeah. - How do you navigate your role in relation to politics? - You know, I think it's, there are periods where I'm online, where I'm on, I'm posting, I've got Instagram on my phone, and there's periods where I don't have it on at all. And so right now it's been off pretty much all year, just because I felt overwhelmed by it all, and that is where I just go, you know what, I'm not part of the actual government. I think it'll be okay if I'm not, you know. And I think, you know, standing up for human rights, it's like, it is our duty. We literally have microphones. We're louder than other people. So there's a threshold of what you have to say and what you have to do. And I think, you know, I think you're really great about that. And I think so many people I know genuinely care in front of the camera and behind the scenes, you know, the amount of people who, I think we know who help families directly deal with their entire countries and worlds being ruined. And so you always want to be a part of that and you always want to be there. And then at the same time, yeah, at a certain point, you go like, well, we also want to make people laugh and we have a, you know, a certain role. And so, yeah, it's, it's, I mean, that's what's kind of sick about Zoran, right? He tried wrapping. And then he said, I don't think I'm going to wrap my way to any sort of justice for anybody. Let me actually get involved in there. Yeah, yeah. So, damn bro, you really threw his musical aspirations underneath the bus. I actually like the songs. You like, you like, I like, you actually like young cardamom. You're like, I actually, I think it's kind of a bop and I think he tapped out at the right time. I think he said, okay, yeah, yeah. These are sick. I got Lupita. I did this. And now it's time to make real change. Let me go governed. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever have that thing where you're also like, when people are like, you're not going hard in the paint enough? Because you had this thing about in your previous special where you did this joke about, you were raising money for a humanitarian cause. And then people were like, what about the floods in Pakistan? Yeah. Where you basically have to be plugging up the holes of every humanitarian crisis around the world. Do you think at some point we should just pen something in grid to be like, you know where I stand on the issues, right? It's like, hey, my name is Rami Yousif. Like, you know where I-- You know what care about people, right? Yeah. Like, you know how I feel about this particular issue. Yeah, I think it's disingenuous. It's disingenuous when people kind of go, oh, you talk about this thing, but you didn't talk about that thing. And then they kind of try and get you in some sort of thing. And what it does, I think, to some people is make them go, oh, you know what? I'm just not going to talk about anything, right? And I think that's kind of the goal of that type of interrogation. So I don't fall for it. You know what? If I have Instagram on my phone, I will be tweeting, posting about a whole host of things. You know, if it's on my phone, if it's not, you know, sorry guys, I missed this one. You know, so I think it's totally fine. I don't think-- I actually don't think I have to be, you know, 24/7. But yeah, you know, you know how I feel. That should be a pin. I'm going to pin this up right now. If you want my poll quote, you know how I feel about this. Not good. Thumbs down. I don't approve. I also preemptively don't approve just in case you circle back and do it later. Not cool. Not with it. Let me just get that on the record right now. Anyways. Stop the fucking bombs you crazy bastards. Here's what I'm trying to say is I actually get at the worst from someone, DeBoys. Like DeBoys on my group thread? Yeah. Oh, bro, I got friends that are-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. --that are in B2B SaaS and giving me help. That thing's worse than-- They work in IT, and they're coming at me. Oh, yeah, yeah, no. The friends are the worst. Oh, bro. They're, yeah, they're-- Because they're monitoring every move. They're coming at me. They have direct access. Yeah. And they go, too. But I got to call them on their bullshit because sometimes they'll be like, you're not going hard enough with the paint. You see what Rami just did? Mm-hmm. Where you at? Did you-- has that happened? Bro, happens all the time. I've done something, and then you've done something and then I catch you. And you get blowback? Yeah. I'm like, oh, wow. What do you want me to do, bro? I'm in the crowd. I'm in the crowd while he's hosting us. What do you want me to do? Right. You get like aunties. Then these jerks, they'll be lecturing me about not using my platform. Then they'll be like, hey, by the way, can you get me a reservation at Admiral's Club in New York City? I'll be like, what? Well, wait. I thought we were going hard in the paint. And it's like, well, you know, I'm only in Manhattan for three days. Yeah. I think you get me a reservation. If you get them that rez, that is a form of activism. Brown people deserve to be seated at premium New York restaurants. I am such a supporter of people in the Gulf. I think there's some of the coolest people. And you've met them that are just the sweetest, most down-earth, amazing people. And I think that, you know, this whole conversation that we have over here about people who live there and this kind of demonic painting of the world. It's really wild, especially at this point in time. I mean, when you see the way that our president is tweeting. Like, imagine not living here and going, what's going on over there? They got a, the president's promoting something called alligator alcatraz. They put immigrants in a prison surrounded by alligators. They grab students and they grab people off the streets and throw them in the vans. You can't get an abortion in half the place, but they say they're the most pro women. It's really, you know, I mean, it's actually crazy. I mean, this happens all the time when you travel. Like, if you get a chance to travel, you feel it. Even when I've toured, gone to Europe, people are like, you guys, you're out of your mind. No, no, it feels, it feels wild. You know, so that's where I am always going to support people, you know, people. Government stuff, it's like what, you know, we have no angle. We have no advantage. Being Egyptian and like growing up with Egyptian politics, being in the background of like family discussions and WhatsApp threads. How did that shape your perspective on American politics? Well, in a way, what's funny now is I think people are really shocked. And they go, my God, the president is lining his pockets with money. All the herbs are like, yeah. Everyone's like, yeah, that's what presidents do. Like, you guys don't know this. Like, you haven't seen this. You know, we've seen this song in dance. And so I don't think it's, it almost, for better or for worse, it puts the focus on the reality that you know people can be amazing, even in wildly corrupt systems. So it's almost kind of hardens an optimism, actually. Yeah, what's interesting is that people in America will then point that lens on other parts of the world and go like, yeah, that's because they don't have institutions. That's because democracy has eroded. That's because they have strong mandictators. But what you just mentioned, the warmth and the spirit of the Egyptian people, that humanism isn't a lot of your work. Yeah. Like, I really loved your subway take. Do you remember what your subway take was? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just for the people that haven't heard it, what was the subway take? Everyone's a good person. Everyone is a good person at their core. You know, and we're all afflicted with things and people have spiritual diseases and things that overtake their goodness. But at the core, they're good. And then so many things can affect someone that essentially Their heart becomes, you know, completely injured, completely clouded, you know. - Would you use a specific word? - Well, it was the bad people. - They've been infected. - They've been infected, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. - Which is such a dope framing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Putting it in the zombie apocalypse terms is such a great way of thinking about humanity. I'm just like, look, you're ultimately a good person, but you've been bit. And that's what everyone-- - You've been bit, and why would I argue with someone who's been bit? - Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's 'cause, you know, look, that's any real spiritual practice. We'll show you that. You know, it's not even fun to judge people or really get too caught up in what's going on with them, you know, it's, you try to protect it from affecting you and your loved ones, you try to stop it from spreading. You know, what are the, how can we mask up against corporate greed and, you know, autocrats and technocrats? You know, but I'm not gonna sit here in opine about, you know, specific individuals for too long, because if it's not them, it's just gonna be someone else who gets just a sick with the thing that's floating around, you know. - It was a really great way to frame it too, because also when you look at international policy, things are framed that way. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - These are bad countries. Or the leaders. I remember when Maduro was captured. They're like, yeah, he's a bad guy though. - Sure. - He's bad, he's bad. So we need to go extradite him. The way Batman extradited that Asian dude in the dark night. - Yeah, but we're all like supporting the system that just allows this virus to free flow. - Yeah. - So if it's not him, it's gonna be someone else. Remember when Tom Hanks was the first one to get COVID? - Okay. - Remember? - I remember this, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was like, what's Tom Hanks particularly reckless? It's like, no, COVID's floating around. - Right. - You know? And so some of these guys, these power vacuums, and they create all this stuff. And it's like, well, it's built on all of that. You know, that's what's happening. And so you have to actually go to the core of the thing. Because you can almost make it convenient where you go, oh my God, well, if Netanyahu's gone, everything will be okay. It's like, let's be another one. - Right, right. - Yeah. - All we got to do is get Trump out. And it's like, is that all we got to do? But what's also beautiful about it, man. And it's, we've actually chatted about this privately. Is it helped me not fall into the logic trap of trying to argue with people about particular issues? - Right, right, right, right. - Yeah, all people, human, and it is quite spiritual. Like, all of humanity is this really beautiful spiritual thing. You can't just condemn one particular country, one particular group of people, like trying to meet people at a very human level. - Well, you kind of want to give people the opportunity to do that. - Yeah. - You want to create the opening that, oh wait, maybe things can get better. Because they can, you know, they can. And there's times where they have. - Yes. - And it kind of feels like the more hard-headed we are, that it just gets worse. - You've done Umar, right? Yeah, and you've done Hudge? No, what's Umar like? - Oh, it's incredible. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's really beautiful. I mean, this is a sacred frequency. I mean, when you, and you know, it's all Abraham, you know, the Kaaba, you know, I don't think people understand the father of modern religion and one Godness that, you know, is the three major religions. And this is not to discount, you know, Hinduism, Buddhism. And, you know, but this, this is a location with a sacred frequency that's meant a lot to a lot of people, you know, throughout human history. So you feel that, you know, you go there and you go, this is, you just feel something in your body that you can't, can't explain. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, it's super emotional. - Man, I want to go so bad, bro. - You got to go. - I've talked to a brother a lot about it. We need to arrange this. I need to figure it out. I was trying to figure it out a way. I need to figure it out a way. - You got to go there. - No, bro, I'm definitely down. By the way, by virtue of what I do, I'm always arguing with people, talking about issues that are very AD. - Yeah. - I'm on that B.C.E. tip. Tell me, Abraham, bro, that's 3,000 B.C.E.s. That's the time I'm on. - It's also wild though, because like you'll go and then it's like the most holy place. - Yeah. - And then, you know, you just kind of step out and you can buy Gucci bag. - Oh, so you like quickly? - You quickly, it's yeah. - That's what it felt like when I was at your wedding, when we went to Cairo. - Yeah, where I was like, all right. So there's the pyramids of Giza, but then here's an H&M, which is kind of a, it was just a-- - Same skyline. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the world. - Yeah, you know, both ancient corporate structures. - Well, you got to go to the Vatican. - Yeah. - How crazy is that Vatican City's also its own country? - Yeah, I didn't understand that. And the crazy thing too about being in Rome, there's a bunch of Egyptian stuff everywhere. I mean, it's really wild. You'll see these things that have higher glyphics on them and there's these-- - Wait, inside the Vatican. - Just in Rome, you know, Vatican itself is quite, Jesus forward, I would say. But the other stuff is very, I mean, it's wild. You see these obelisks and you see all this stuff that very clearly was pillaged. And I'm just kind of walking around going, this is a lot of our shit, like-- - There's a lot. - And it's just being, go to the British Museum. - Rained. - I know, but at least in the British, it's covered, you know, this is the rain is falling on our stuff. - Oh, damn. - Outside, it's getting rained on. Straight up eroding. - It looks pretty clean, honestly, I think. - Take care of it. What was the Vatican like for you? - It was funny because you feel this spiritual thing of, whoa, this is where the Pope is and where all these guys are. - Yeah. - But then you're walking through it with Conan O'Brien, you know, Chris Rock. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And probably Mike Breglia, I mean, come on, you know, it's like a whole different thing when people are, like Jimmy found was so funny there. - You guys were doing bits? You guys were just walking around doing bits? - He was the only one doing a bit. So he shows up late in sunglasses. We're all seated. He kind of walks in through the side and is just like, let's begin. (laughing) - He's Catholic though, is it? - Yeah, no. - He showed up late? - Yeah, I think it was a big place. I think he just probably got a little lost. But I mean, imagine you have 150 people sitting to see the Pope against them and there's this tension of when's the Pope going to come out and through this giant side door, Jimmy Fallon walks through and goes, we can get started. - That's hilarious. - Best laugh I've ever seen. I mean, so funny. - That is very funny. - Just like class clown. - Yeah. - New exactly when to, I mean, just truly spiritual. A spiritual laugh. - Were you guys not talking? Were you guys not talking? - Like while you were waiting. - Every sound you hear is that about to be the Pope. So you kind of talk for a second, but then you go, oh, it's the Pope. And then, oh, it's Jimmy Fallon. (laughing) - Oh man. - Yeah. Did you, so you go up and you meet the Pope? Did you kiss the ring? - I didn't notice if there was kissing. - Conning in Colbert or Catholic. So I don't know if did they? - They might have kissed. I don't know. I didn't kiss, I didn't see kissing, but they're very well could have been. He was just super warm. It's the nice. You can feel it. The aura was mass. I mean, he was just so radiating goodness. - Totally. - And he's also, you know, he's a full Italian Pope. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Speaking Italian. - Real deal, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they gave us the pamphlet with what he was, you know, saying in Italian. Most of us didn't understand it. - It was beautiful. I mean, he really believed in laughter. He really believed in what it could do and how it could heal and how different things could come out. - What was the philosophical question that he was talking about? It was about, because there's a whole thing of like, does God, was he answering that philosophical question, does God have a sense of humor or just the importance of? - I think there was something about him saying that he does believe God laughs. I think there was something about that in there. Which is something I think I've heard in, you know, a lot of faith practices, that idea, which is always, I think so. I think the complexity of laughter, yeah, how could that be ignored? - Romney season one, the episode about your dad is one of the most beautiful pieces of television I've ever seen in my life. - Two. - Oh, that's Romney season two. - Two. - Where he, he listened to the voicemails. The voicemail most of the recordings. - The one about the father, you know, so in season one, the Romney character to listen to some tapes. - Yes. - You know, and then season two. - Well, that's one of three, right? - No, it's like, I think it's like one of seven or eight. I don't remember. - 'Cause it's one of my favorite episodes on television. - And then season two is the episode that like circles on the dad, and we see him recording the tapes. That particular bit of the recording of the tapes is what my father used to do when he came to America. In the '80s, just making a life for himself, you know? - He was sent tapes back to your grandfather. - And my grandmother, yeah. - So he would record, send it, and he'd mail it, and then they'd record and send back, you know? And I remember hearing that as a kid, and 'cause my dad was very much, you know, he said, we have phone cards now, this is wild. In the '80s, you'd spend your whole paycheck if you wanted to make a call. So I used to do this tape thing, and I always thought that that was, it was just so inspiring. You know, it was so beautiful, and he didn't know how long he would stay in the states when he came. And so, I always found it'd be very moving, and then it felt incredibly cinematic, obviously. Yeah, you have a physical device. It's also like an audio recording which is really beautiful, but what you really showed in that episode, I bet I think like set up one of the like spiritual and emotional engines for the whole thing is as kids, we often wonder what was my dad like in what were his dreams and what were his dreams for me. And so that episode like had all of those things in it, like I've never had the answers to all those questions. I've gotten bits and pieces from people like, "Hey, your dad was like this, like your dad was like that." Yeah. Some things are true, some things are like trolling, some things are comedic, but then I've never known and I've tried to ask my dad when I was born, what did you feel? But everything is like, he puts like the Sylvester Stallone veneer on everything. I'm like, "You're just rocky." And all of these things were like, "Yeah, it was tough and it was hard, and life really beat me down, but Hussein, I did it. I did it for our family." Like it's like, "Come on, bro." Like every story is just like, "Yeah, you were too much." But I persevered through all of it and your mom was killing me, but I said, "One of us has to live." It's like everything is like, "He's the. " It's really fun. Yeah, your father's struggle. Yeah. You're what? He overcame you. He's like, despite of you, and everyone here that you know and love. And I'm trying to get to like vulnerability. Yeah. Yeah. This is trying to get to like, were you scared? Did you have hopes? Did you see me? What did I, what emotions did I evoke in you? No, my parents are quite vulnerable. I think in many ways taught me vulnerability, you know, the ability to kind of, you know, be able to say how you're feeling. I'm not saying that it's always easy for everybody, but I think that they really, you know, it's interesting too, like I look back at photos of them. And I was like, these guys are cool. Like if I look at old photos of my parents, and I go, "Oh, they're cool. Cool clothes." Not even just for the era. Like they figured it out. We all have like three photos of our parents, of them being fucking so cool. Cool. But my dad was a. And this is where I think I got a fascination with cameras. My dad was obsessed with documenting. He loves documenting. He loves photos. I think this is why he did the tape recorder thing too. My mom same way loves photos. So we have extensive photos. My dad used to work crazy hours. And first thing he'd do is he'd come home and even get out of his suit, pick up the video camera. So he'd try to catch us for like a little bit before we go to sleep and he'd film. So he loved, and when you think about the effort, it's actually incredible now because now okay, we all have the iPhone and you can just take, you know, one day you could take 400 photos of your child. This is buying the tape, you know, and saving it. And buying more tapes, you know, it, there was this cost to archiving. So I think so much of it, you know, has double triple weight, you know, in how I see it. And so, you know, they were, and my mom too, so about, you know, showing us music and documenting things. And so that was always really inspiring to be able to look at, you know. And sometimes I don't even know how good my memory is. But we have so many photos in the videos that I can go, oh, wow, you know, that, that's what that was like. What will our kids remember of us? Like what treasure trove will we give them where they were like, this is my dad's GameCube? Yeah, yeah, yeah, or like, I mean, your kids will have like hundreds of podcasts episodes. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. They'll be able to watch you. They'll speak to, but they'll be able to watch you speak to senators and business people and entertainers. I mean, it's incredible. I mean, everything you just said was depressing. No, it's, it's cool. I think it's cool. Yeah, I think it's cool. I think it's really cool. I have a ton of the stuff that I collected that's still at my, that's like in my parents, like in my childhood bedroom, like archives of like slam magazine, old, like VHS, VHS, and one mixtape, VHS, Home Alone, VHS, Home Alone 2. It's obviously because my parents are hoarders, but there's another component to it, too, which is like stuff that's so sweet. That I'm still legitimately, like, kept old newspaper clippings when I first was doing comedy, and then like the local newspaper wrote about it. Wow. Yeah. Local paper goes so hard. Local paper is so much cooler than New York times. 100,000. Like when both have occurred, you kind of go, give me the local paper. That gave a center press. I'm always like, give me the South Bergenite. Yeah. Dude, South Bergenite articles. Hey, you got a lot of pride in being a Jersey guy. Oh, dude. Absolutely. So you rub Jersey hard. NorthJersey.com has been by my side. So you, John Stewart, CalPen, Vanguard's of being Jersey guys. I, I, I really got to have a heart to heart with CalPen, and I said to him, it was so important to me that Cherry Hill, New Jersey was, it was in that, you know, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, that as a kid, that was the most representation I saw. Brown guy at a New Jersey White Castle. I thought that was the peak. Okay. Arguably still is. Still is? I don't know that our work has even gotten close. So look, just so everyone's aware, I'm not walking him into this. He's repping this guy. Repping. Let's do New Jersey trivia. What famous airship disaster happened off the New Jersey coast in 1937? What? Bro, this is one of the easiest, historical, quiet. I went to public school in California and we learned about this. It was like Amelia Earhart. 1937? What in the first year of fucking college dropout? You're not, you don't know the answer to this. It was a huge explosion. It's used as a punchline often. Please get this right. Pearl Harbor. The correct answer is the Hindenburg. Oh, that was Jersey. That was Jersey. Yeah, it was Jersey. Dude. Hey, anyone who, who says that satirists are the smartest people on planet, please just understand. There's basic US civics that we're not getting right here. Eighth grade US history. We're failing. Okay. Multiple choice. Here we go. What fast food chain started in New Jersey as a hot dog stand in 1946. But now it is a huge coffee enterprise. It's not multiple. You said multiple choice. I'm not, I'm not going to give you multiple choice. Oh, it's not multiple choice. Yeah. It started as a hot dog stand, but it's a huge coffee chain. There's like two options here, bro. Wait, I know. I'm just, I'm like, I don't think Duncan. Duncan had hot dogs. Duncan donut started in New Jersey as a hot dog stand in 1946. Because I remember Duncan being Jersey. I just didn't know about the hot dogs. And then also, like, I feel like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon have tried to take Duncan. It's a very massive thing. Yeah, it's a very massive thing. Let me just say for in defensive New Jersey, when you drive around New Jersey, there's two things that y'all should take claim on, which is there's a shit ton of Duncan donuts, a lot of Duncan and storage unit facilities, a lot of storage, a lot of garbage and also a lot of trees. Yeah. So I'm a fan. I'm a theme park fan. I love theme park going up in California theme parks with a shit. What 1980s New Jersey water park infamous for its dangerous rides and personal injury lawsuits was featured in a 2020 HBO Max documentary. It's a very popular 1980s theme park in New Jersey, where people were getting hurt all the time. I'm not caught up in my HBO Max documentaries, man. But you may have heard Jersey lore because I look in Cali, we would always hear about like the kid who died on the wooden coaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we, which kind of made me want to ride the coaster more, we only went to, we went, we go to six flags or we go to Wildwood, but we never went to a water park. So it's called Action Park and the documentary is called a class action park. Clever. Okay. So did you ride King Decah? Of course. King Decah was incredible. You know it's close now. Yeah. All right. I know. The best thing that I ride now is Space Mountain, because I can't, I think when I was a kid, I could loop, I can't loop anymore. I get vertigo. Oh, so you did the Joker, you did the Joker ride in, you can't do that anymore. So the Joker ride's crazy because you spend while you, I can't do that vertigo. True. Yo, what was that set me back? What was King Decah like? It was incredible. Epic dude. That was that was like, you know, I promised my son I was going to take him on King Decah. That was one of those two though in Jersey, with people like, you're going to die on King Decah. Yeah, yeah. And once you first go on it, like high school, you like went on King Decah on high school. Maybe even like seventh eighth grade. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tallest coaster in the world. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. Crazy. That was like, I think it was before high school. I think it was like eighth grade. Who'd you ride it with? Just the guys. I think it was a birthday party. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was so fun. Six flags, birthday parties. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys have the thing in Jersey too, which bring two Coke products and you can get in for five bucks. No. Oh, so, so in Great America and six flags in California, it's like during the summer, they would have these ads where they're like, bring two cans of Coke and you get in for 10. It was that. Wow. So my mom would have four cans of Coke and be like, all right, childcare for the day. Go. I mean, I should just go to six flags all this running around. Yeah. Yeah. True or false, every baseball used in the major leagues is rubbed with mud from New Jersey. True. It's true. Yeah. It's known as Lena Blackburn Baseball Rubbing Mud. This substance removed the slick glossy finish from new baseballs to improve pitcher grip and control. Wow. That's fire, right? That's really cool. That's dope. It's super cool. Yeah. That's really cool. True or false? The state song of New Jersey is the old New Jersey. No, it's false. I never heard that. It is false. I pulled a Romney. Yeah, that's not. I totally made it up. There is a chance on it. Yeah. I never heard it. I think it's my body language. It's just giving it away. No. I just. In 2025, how much was wagered on sports betting in New Jersey? It's in the billions. Yes. Three. Over 12 billion. What? That's crazy. Oh, that's people just on pocket gambling. That's not even the underground market. It's not even underground. That's crazy. Because Jersey's got, you know, bookie culture. Yeah. Wow. 12 billion. 12 billion. Yeah. You know what's crazy about that? What's up? Is it, we only have one sports team. I know. We only have the Devils. That is crazy. So to be spending 12 billion. To be that floodgambling. And sports games. Basically on teams that you have nothing to do with. You're connected to no team. Yeah. Other than the New Jersey Devils. And how many of those gambles are really about the Devils? Yeah. Got to be low. No. Virtually none. By the way, shout out to Chris Christie. He's the one that legalized it. What's he's going to come on the show? He agreed. What should I ask him? Chris is coming. Yeah, bro. Chris Christie came. And our booker, by the way, was like, do you want Chris Christie? I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah. I want Chris Christie. Chris Christie is so Jersey. Chris Christie. Chris Christie's out of a safty movie. He's out of a safty movie of what they think the governor of New Jersey would be like. Are you going to say that to him? Yeah. Chris Christie. Rob Ford. What? There's certain political fixtures that are just characters. I believe are characters in and of itself. What's he here to promote? I have no idea. Yeah. I genuinely have no idea. I don't know why he said yes. I don't know why he said it. I don't know why. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what any of this means. But what's also wild is that like this, this now has become some of the most compelling television that exists. Like I've said this to the, I said this to the whole team that works here. I was like, the, the Cat Williams Club Chechet interview. Oh my God. It's probably one of the best pieces of cinema. Yeah. And I'm including the godfather. What, what it means in its, its beginning, middle, end, the tension that, it's some of the, and also the prophecies that have come true since. Correct. Yeah. I would see that if they put it out, limited theatrical. Predates. Put it out. Yeah. Yeah. Put it out. Alamo Drafthouse. Yeah. Yeah. I'm there. Yeah. It's really good. It's very good, very good. I think it's at 96 million views right now. Might have, might have broken over 100. That's the full like three hour, three hour plus joint. I've ran a bath, washed it twice. It's, I mean, it's truly nuts. Dude, what's going on with the drones in New Jersey? Because I had a governor of film Murphy come on. And I, and I showed him the footage of the drones. Yeah, what do you say? This dude was evading and dodging left right all over the place. Now, I didn't grill him too hard because I also was shooting a feature in Jersey. And I needed the tax rebate. Yes. So I didn't want to go too hard, but I was like, now we're wrapped and picture locked. Yeah, I'm going to say he, he ducked and dodged the question. Yeah. How, how are you feeling about the drone? Have you seen these, the videos that people are posting from specifically New Jersey about the drones and the orbs? Yeah, it's, there's these things flying around. There's lights. And then there's also this Obama interview where he kind of just goes, there's aliens kind of casually. Yeah. And then starts talking about something else. And he goes, you know, I don't think it's what they tell you. I don't think that there's whatever. And he goes, but there, there's other life and whatever. And then he's like, and then Medicare. And you're like, wait, what? Yeah. And you start talking about some other stuff. Yeah. And so everything feels, I'll tell you this, New Jersey, there are people there who believe in the Jersey devil. Like a creature that lives in the medallans. We have these huge marshes. There's all sorts of things in there. And some people actually believe that there are extraterrestrial beings living in those marshes. Also famously, you know, mop burying grounds and that kind of stuff. But that's the place that I grew up in. So I grew up in, the aliens are not in UFOs. Oh, that's the marshlands. Yeah, those marshlands right there. Oh, shit. That's how we grew up. No, the alien is probably right off the side of the highway. That's that smell. This is a bit huge realization because basically Jersey has a little bit of that Florida energy to it. Yes. No, no, weird New Jersey's the thing. You know, Chris Getherd was all in on Weird New Jersey. Right. I just wanted to do a quick fact check real quick though. Fun fact. And this is a, this is not even a fun fact. There's a fact check, the New Jersey devil is technically a demon, not an alien. It's one of the, you know, what would you say is the line between demon and alien? Demons generally, in my opinion, gravitate in our affected by gravity a little bit more. So they're, they're terrestrial. They're on the ground. Right. So demons, chupacoperas, bigfoot. That was incredible pronunciation on chupacopera there. I grew up in California. I got put on to it. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I got put on to the chupacopera a long time ago. It's the way you said it. It was really cool. Yeah. You're not going to offend the culture. I'm not going to offend the culture. Yeah. But I was like, I see, I see what you guys are talking about. You guys come out, gins, demons, ghosts, Kardashians. I get it. There are terrestrial tentos down, beings that can walk around your home, edifice, whatever. Aliens are more of the Independence Day. Yeah. I feel like these are two different types of things. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're cousins of each other. Yeah. But I'm not on that men and black alien stuff. Yeah. I'm wearing a skin suit. No. Like, I'm on the real like, if they are, they're hitting it the same way you and I when we're on tour, we hit earth as like ORD, you know, the way you stop off an L hair and then you keep it moving like that. Right. Right. In my opinion, I don't know. But what do I know? Right. They're just here doing the, what do you call it? A portal switch? Trans-reportal. Trans-reportal. There you go. By the way, fun fact. Governor Murphy pardoned a guy who killed a 76 year old grandfather in a hit and run. Now his father, Joe Jacobs, is a Democratic power broker and raised money for Governor Murphy's wife who had a failed senate campaign. Gross. Yeah. Film Murphy called me when I won the Golden Globe. Oh, to congratulate you. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, you called me. You said you got to come film in New Jersey and I've taken him up on the software. Not yet, but it's because I said, dude, the tax incentive is not there and he said, I'm working on it. And then he did it. Bro, it is there. Now it is. It is there. But this was in 2020. So he called me and he usually got a comment. I said, dude, I want to, but you know, I'm getting a tax break in New York and he said, I got you. And then he did it. Damn. But I haven't filmed there. I just did it. He did make it happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like something like 28, 30%. It's great. It's great. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, that was kind of part of my time. That is a weird part. And that is a insane, weird thing. But it's also very Jersey. It's a very Jersey mafia thing. He was literally like 15 minutes away from being out of office or the student was about to get sentenced, right? And then the lawyer pulled it up. It's like, no, no, no. We just got that. Hmm. That was it, bro. Have you subscribed to Lemon Out of Premium yet? You can listen completely ad-free and get access to exclusive bonus content. You won't hear anywhere else like my discussion with Malala on how therapy changed her life or my convo with Mel Robbins on how her let them

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host reflects on a childhood crush on Lola Bunny from Space Jam, acknowledging ongoing attraction despite being married and a father.
  2. He discusses how such personal vulnerabilities—like admitting a crush on Meg Ryan or Lola Bunny—can be seen as inappropriate or "perverted," leading to emotional discomfort with his spouse.
  3. The conversation touches on privacy concerns, with the host advocating for personal boundaries, such as wearing a burka or rejecting cookies, to protect one’s image in a digitally invasive world.
  4. He highlights the cultural and spiritual influence of Islam, calling it "future proof" in addressing modern issues like digital privacy, addiction, and emotional resilience.
  5. The host shares personal experiences with family, including parents’ phone addiction, and uses humor to critique societal norms, like the obsession with Candy Crush or AI-generated content.
  6. He reflects on a broader belief that all people are fundamentally good, even when corrupted by systems or trauma, emphasizing compassion over judgment.
  7. The interview includes a lighthearted but insightful discussion about New Jersey culture, history, and politics, including local trivia and the state’s role in sports betting.
  8. The host expresses deep appreciation for candid, vulnerable storytelling, noting how personal moments—like a family tape-recording tradition—can become powerful emotional anchors.

Summary:

The interview features a candid, self-reflective conversation about personal vulnerabilities, cultural identity, and digital privacy. The host shares a nostalgic childhood crush on Lola Bunny from Space Jam, acknowledging that the attraction remains with him despite being a married father. He reflects on how such personal truths—like a crush on Meg Ryan—can be seen as inappropriate or "perverted" by his wife, leading to emotional tension.

The discussion expands to broader themes of privacy, with the host advocating for protective measures like rejecting cookies or wearing a burka in a digitally invasive world. He credits Islam as a future-proof spiritual framework that helps him resist addiction and maintain emotional balance. Personal anecdotes about family life, including parents’ phone addiction and shared memories of old tapes, highlight the value of emotional authenticity.

The conversation also explores New Jersey’s culture, history, and political quirks, including its sports betting industry and local trivia. Ultimately, the host emphasizes compassion and vulnerability, arguing that people are fundamentally good, even when affected by systems or trauma. Through humor and honesty, the dialogue blends personal confession with cultural critique, offering a heartfelt exploration of identity, connection, and resilience in a complex modern world.

FAQs

Yes, the interviewer mentioned having a childhood crush on Lola Bunny, describing her as fun and attractive, especially in the context of an animated cartoon.

As a 40-year-old married man with children, he still feels a connection to Lola Bunny, acknowledging that it's not a current obsession but a persistent, ongoing attraction.

Yes, his wife was disgusted by the idea, calling it perverted and sexualized, which made him reflect on how he let his guard down.

He admits having a crush on Meg Ryan as a child because of her voice in the animated film *Anastasia*, which led to a moment of emotional vulnerability and even made him cry.

He emphasizes privacy concerns, noting that with cameras and AI, people risk being turned into pornography, and suggests wearing a burka or using privacy tools like rejecting cookies as protective measures.

He believes Islam offers practical, long-term solutions to modern issues like addiction, intermittent fasting, and emotional resilience, making it a reliable framework for personal and societal challenges.

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