128: Rainbow Six Style with Marcus King | Soder Podcast | EP 126

Hey everybody, I'm still on the road. Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour is, it's in the final stretch. We're in the home stretch. If you're in Charlotte, we're there this Friday. If you're in Durham, we're there Saturday. And then we're coming to Munhall, Pennsylvania. We're coming to Cleveland, Ohio, to Columbus, Ohio, to Iowa, if you live near the Grand Falls Casino. Those are the final dates of the Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour. It's going on right now. DanSoda.com for all tickets. Come see the show. And then we're recording this in June. More info on that coming shortly. But DanSoda.com, I promise you, once the tour is done, you're not going to be seeing a lot of this pushing it on you. We're going to be going back to clubs to work on the new hour, which announcing soon. That'll be fun. Come see me with a notepad, bomb my off. But right now, DanSoda.com, Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour. I love this hour. I've been having so much fun on the road. I'm going to be doing a lot of stuff. I'm going to with it. Netflix is a joke festival. I know Los Angeles. I was just there doing an hour in the fall. So Netflix is a joke. It was like, hey, come out, do a show. What do you want to do? Well, here's what I want to do. I want to watch a movie with Tim Dillon and make fun of it in front of an audience. Remember those movie watch-alongs we were doing at the beginning of the tour? Doing a live one. Los Angeles, May 6th at the Agora, 9 o'clock. DanSoda.com for tickets. Come watch me and Tim Dillon. Tim Dillon, watch a very fun movie, which we're still trying to get cleared. But if we get it cleared, it's going to be very funny. We're going to make fun of a very fun movie to make. I don't think I've ever even watched, but on site, you know it's going to be a fun one to make fun of, especially with Tim Dillon. DanSoda.com, go get tickets for Netflix is a joke, the movie watch along. It's going to be fun. Not a giant place, you know, just a couple hundred of us watching a shitty movie while Tim and I, and maybe a special guest, make fun of it. There's a lot of people in town. I might be having friends coming over just to sit down and make fun of shit. Because that's what you should do, right? It's make fun of the world. Getting rolling, baby. You're doing that Blue Note show. Yeah. I saw that picture with Shane. I was like, fuck yeah. Yeah, dude. That's what's going on, dude. I love that you're doing that. Are you doing it as a residency? Yeah. That's fucking sick. We're doing like a. I guess it's. We just start recording. Altogether, it's like six nights, and we do two shows a night. We just get very exploratory. That's fucking awesome. That's what's up. That's what a guy of your caliber of talent should be doing. Not like jingles for gambling sites. I'm fucking chilling at the Blue Note. I'm not above that. You go, DraftKings, wham, just wailing. And you're like, damn, dude, it's that DraftKings lick that got me hooked. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But how do you. Like, the Blue Note is one of those places in New York City where it's like a legendary venue. Yeah. Like, people, musicians talk about it. I know the musicians at like the Cellar and the Village Underground are like, oh, Blue Note's the shit. Was it you or them that was like, hey, I want to come do like a run there? So, the way this all kind of started, so Chris Dave is Rick Rubin's favorite drummer, which is like a crazy. It's a cool ass credit. stat, you know? And he's like. I'd lead with that if I were him. You should make a t-shirt, like Rick Rubin's favorite drummer. I'm Rick Rubin's favorite drummer. Like, you know, Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top has business cards that say, friend of Eric Clapton. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Which are pretty sick. If I were him, my business card would just go, ha, ha, ha. That would be my business card. I'd go, Billy Gibbons, ha, ha, ha. That'd be a good business card. Yeah. Now, so, we did the record together, this record called Mood Swings. Which is great. Check it out. Check it out. Proper introductions. They get mad at me. This is. Go listen to Marcus King. Go listen to every single thing Marcus King has done. Because I'm telling you right now. Go listen to Son of a Gary. Yeah. Marcus King is an elite performer. Singer, guitar player, un-fucking-believable, will melt your face. Just go watch him. Shout out to Dean Del Rey, who put me on the Marcus King band early. 2017, 18? Yeah. Around there? It's killer. Yes. I mean, unfathomable. Really? Yes, you guys are killer. And I listened, and I was like, that is how I would rate it. I listened, and I sat back, and I went, killer. I went and hung out with Dean. Last time I was in LA for the Grammy week stuff, he does this tribute to Bon Scott every year. I saw clips from him. Yeah. What a lineup. It's crazy. He gets all these motherfuckers out there. Like, Homie was out there, so I got to hang out with him. You did, what did you do, Night Stalker? What Bon Scott song did you do? Yeah. Josh sang it, I forget. Yeah, I think it was, look it up. They did, like, dude, but I don't know if you saw the clip of him and Dean talking about it. Oh. I mean, as a huge Queens of the Stone Age fan, Homie put you over. That's my boy. He was like, that motherfucker plugged in on a guitar that they found backstage and ripped. It's one of my favorite things are watching guys that I love talk about guys that they love, which does sound very good. Yeah. But Night Prowler, yeah, Night Prowler. What is it? Night Prowler. Yeah, Night Prowler. Night Rider. Which is like a deep cut, because Dean was like, yeah, we got the notes last year. We did a lot of hits. We're going to do a lot of deep cuts. He got a good Dean Del Rey. Well, you know, he went on the road with me. I know. For like a year. That was the first time I met you was when you were on the road and you came into the bonfire and did some live songs. And you're like, I'm on the road with Dean Del Rey. And that's why I was like, oh, and I got to do. I showed you my favorite character, which is Detective Dean Del Rey, which is, I think he's the killer. But I love Dean so much, but I have noticed, like, I think he says killer less now. Because of. It's kind of like how Eddie Murphy changed his laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Which I completely get. I get. I completely. I stopped doing Macho Man a lot when people are like, do Macho Man. You're like, I don't want to do it that much. But so I get it. I say we sign a petition for Dean Del Rey to bring back killer because I like to bring it back. Bring it back, baby. Dust it off. He's so he's he's one of the most confident people. And I love that about him. It's like we took him on the road and like doing comedy like like Big Jay knows this because he went out with, you know, corn. So like it's hard doing a comedy set for a group of people there for music. Well, because it almost feels like they're getting an announcement. Yes. I don't think. I don't think they lock in the way they do when you're sitting down watching a comedy show, when you're standing around and a guy comes out, you know, they expect you to go. So there's been a fire. They're on edge. Yeah. That's what it is. It's the it's they want music. Yeah. Like, I feel like the inverse because back in the day, like Eddie Murphy's, I think it's raw. They had. Yeah. He had a band open for him. Do you think that works easier? Music first? I think it makes sense. I mean, I'd be curious to know, like how what Shane's experience was, because he did that with Zach Bryan. Oh, yeah. And that's like 80,000 people. Yeah. He told me he was like, I'm just going up there. I'm going to go for a little bit. See how it goes. Then I'm out. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you got to go. It's almost like a heist. You're like, how many laughs can I grab? Big J is a different animal. Yeah. Because Big J told me that once he got the cameraman on his side, when he was opening for corn. Yeah. It brought the show to him. OK. Where he would like point people out and he'd be like, look at this fucking guy. And then they go to him. And so the guys up on the screen. Yeah. And then Jay's being Jay and just being hilarious. And it's like. And I mean, he he is one of my favorite comedians and you are as well. Like, I went to see Jay the other night and like his crowd work is it's like watching like a jazz musician. Yeah. It's very unfair. Yeah. That Big J gets compared. Compared to modern crowd work. Oh, yeah. Because it is it's like. Leaps and bounds. It's like me comparing you to like a boy band that learned how to play a song from the record label. Like they're not actual guitarists. You're like, yeah, that's not real guitar. You're just watching them mimic because I've watched. I mean, I've watched Big J over 20 years. I've watched hours of him do crowd work. And it's great watching him get to a place where you go. He's going to open him up like a boxer. It's like he like walks, gets him into a corner, cuts off the ring. And you're like, they can't go anywhere. They got to answer. And also what I like about it is as someone that doesn't do crowd work and just does bits. It's so like you watch and it's refreshing because you go, damn, I wish I could just be that. Like, it helps me be looser. But I also I appreciate it because I'm like, you're seeing a different show every time. Like those like those comedy club waitresses, they're seeing they're listening to a different show every time, which is fucking awesome. I know. I mean, is that what the blue note kind of was for you? Is like, let me go in there. Yeah. I mean, we kind of have these vehicles which are kind of like, you know, I'm sure Jay has like a few bits in his back pocket. Like if it's a really shitty crowd, like you can kind of fall back on some material. That's kind of how it is at the blue note. We're like, so you guys have like a song. If you're like, hey, if I'm not feeling this shit, what's the how do you audible into that? Is it just like, can the because you're talking about Rick Rubin's favorite drummer? Yeah. And then I fucking went down the path. I'm a. ADD pothead. So Chris, Dave and you were like, Hey, let's do a show just the two of us yeah well we talked about doing you know some shows together for for like three years we talked about it and then we finally our buddy alex kerlin who runs all the blue notes he was like do it here because chris kind of does like a residency there because he does a uh a trio with blake mills and pino paladino and uh he works with robert glasper a bunch like he had a duo that he does with dj jazzy jeff yeah and a tap dancer that's crazy just like wild shit that's like a real artist yeah where they're like i'll just i can make it work yeah then you us were like i need a two drink minimum and decent chicken tenders or i can't get my art off the ground if you don't have a cocktail named after a dead comedian i can't do this show if you don't have the bernie mac margarita you i can't go up there um so when you decide to do this show and they go hey do it here for you is that like um wearing sweatpants to work do you get to relax and go like let's have fun and chill like the other night i mean i wore this yeah like what i'm wearing right now sweatshirt and sneakers and i felt really insecure about really and i asked my my my uh tech with me i was like it's okay i'm wearing sneakers on stage i'm wearing sneakers on stage i'm wearing sneakers on stage he's like yeah yeah like you're sitting on a stool so just go for it what do you usually wear i mean i usually like my grandfather was a professional musician and he always said like you don't go on stage without a pair of boots on yeah and it's like just so a wild concept to him to be yeah not dressed up what are you gonna marry a black yeah whoa holy shit whoa grandpa how do we get from boots to blacks yeah it's boots to the dixie crap party i remember uh when i started stand-up they were like you have to wear i started in arizona and they're like you have to wear pants because one time i came in in shorts it's like 106 out yeah and i wore shorts to the comedy club and the owner was like you're lucky i don't make you wear a suit and you're like all right so it is that like they were a different generation they were like i have to wear suits and fucking boots and be gussied up all the time my dad was of a similar generation though because like when he was coming up he would he was working with this band down in fort lauderdale and like it was all mafia owned so he would come in and they they made him like dress up yeah so he'd wear like a blazer with like a tuxedo t-shirt hell yeah but my dad looked really cool yeah if you don't look cool that can be a little yeah annoying annoying to somebody annoying is the first where it goes it doesn't go crazy you go like yeah like this fucking guy yeah he's going and all these like mafia dudes just they loved him but like the the bar owner there or the club manager was like go home and change your fucking shirt right now because he didn't want to get his legs broken yeah exactly the mafia guys were probably like they would take they would take my dad out and just like see like how far they could push him because my dad would just do like lines of coke from his elbow to his thumb yeah just like get going crazy he had this guy young with name captain pete that carried a parrot on it shoulder and just like smuggled loads and loads of cocaine in into florida and this is like 80s late 70s early 80s yeah brother yeah that is pure cut shit yeah that's where our parents were of a different generation these baby boomers got to do pure cut cocaine yeah they got that colombian shit that was like dude i remember my mom i think i've told the story before but she let it slip because my parents used to live in san francisco in the 70s so they were fucking about it they were about it and my mom just one time went one time we got some coke so good your dad wanted to go out dancing and i went damn i think i was like a teenager and i was like yeah what like repeat it she's like we used to have this pen jar my mom's like worked at an insurance company she's like i'm you know single mom but like an 80s mom murphy brown shoulder pads i love it we had a pen jar next to our kitchen phone and one time i'm like spinning it around when i'm on the phone with someone and it spins all the way around and it said dope on it but i didn't put it together i was a kid and i went oh like cool like cool like cool and then i grew up and you know i was like smoking weed in the house by the time i was 16 and i was like yo was that dope jar my mom like didn't even not look away from the news she goes yeah it's my dope jar in san francisco and i was like what happened to that she's like i think i sold it at a garage sale you're like no hell yeah trish yeah dude trish she gave me her joint carrier from the 60s oh man she was like she was like yeah you want to i'll show you yeah let me see it i got my dad's hash pipe from the 70s oh wow isn't that cool oh that's so good yeah look how tiny their joints were yeah dude they'd roll up some pinners yeah exactly i can't even fit modern fucking joints into this but this is that's great she found that shit and she's like do you want my joint carrier and i was like hell fucking yeah you can't even like look at that it's got the thing for the paper i could make it work you want it no no please you got to use it i i do have to you know what i have to learn how to roll joints i'll stock you up i use these thing they're called king palm rollies okay and it's like dan hourback put me on to them and basically they're they're made out of palm leaves and you just like stuff your weed down in them get that all day i could stuff they look like little cigars yes they'd fit in there perfect let's go i think we just found a new sponsor this podcast brought to you by king palm rollies king palm rolls get them now and then just watch me show up with like six boxes yeah like i fucking um so when you do like the thing that when did you first off when you see marcus king play you go oh you were born with a guitar in your hand or what it feels like did you start playing since how old were you when you started playing guitar man i really was like two or three years old like as soon as i could like before i could walk i was playing a guitar like oh shit but i had like a really lonely childhood shout out dude yeah what's up brother pretty rough childhood i learned how to do voices because i had friends exactly absolutely yeah and i mean i i quote you all the time and all my interviews is like you think i'm going around from city to city begging for people's like approval because shit went well yeah dude there and people don't understand it's like a true gift and a curse of like when you have that and you get the um motivation to go make stuff that'll bring people in to like enjoy yeah there's a carbon dioxide that comes with that there's like a heavy like that's the oxygen but then you got to breathe some shit out and if you don't take care of that that's what i tell all my friends like that i that i you know like as i watch my friends like shane and nate and all these people get like really really big i'm always like dude let me know what your carbon dioxide is let's fucking let's get that breath out of you because yeah you got to keep breathing but that means breathing in and breathing out you know i mean it does i mean speaking of that like another thing you said that resonated with was like the crossover between like i played with gi joes and army men hell yeah and my wrestlers till i was like 12 or 13 shout out dude i started smoking when i was like 11 or 12 i mean did you yeah you had a dad that had a friend named captain pete yeah my dad's friend's name was jim he wasn't a captain of shit but he would build these fucking motorized ducks that they would put in the lake yeah and you try to get them over 100 miles an hour jim was insane that's sick sawed off shotgun under his couch when he lived with my dad oh one time i was laying on the couch watching tv and you know when you're just like little and you just like run your hand along the carpet and i put my hand under and i was like you and i like knocked it out i was like i found a penthouse like that when i was a kid yeah dude little fucking your little fingers just brush up against something you go what the fuck i had like one of those like little spaz moments you know when you just you have so many emotions you just like and i had to go to the bathroom and just like sit down and i sat on the ground and like i saw under like the the vanity yeah where the heat comes out yeah yeah what is that because i had older stepbrothers yes and i was like penthouse what is this yeah penthouses by the way that ain't the starter kit no it's not that's when you see a pussy for the first time you go what is this a surgeon's magazine you like look around you go i'm not trying to say a fucking open wound yeah the first time and this is crazy and ladies you know this is true but the first time you see a vagina you go what the fuck you don't realize it's the coolest thing on the planet it's the coolest thing on earth you go whoa and then you go chapelle used to have that great bit about uh it's the only one it only satisfies one sense the most which is feel yeah he goes because it it doesn't look good it smells terrible and he like goes through all the senses and he goes but it feels incredible it really does but it's also funny when you're a kid it's like that discovery thing and by the way i said shot it was a pump handle shotgun that's what it was because i felt the pump handle and then i pulled it out and as a kid a 90s kid you're like yo this is sick thank god i was an only child that's the first gun i ever bought it was a pump pump shotgun yeah like six years ago sick i just got in my own place in nashville and i saw like uh you know on the news like you know i saw some crazy shit on the news and i was like i think i should have a gun in my house yeah and like being in nashville they're like they put your name in a little thing and they're like here you go dude and you just walk it in no case i'm like am i allowed to do this it's really funny when you buy a gun because i was with my roommate when he bought a gun at a gun show in arizona and In Arizona, all they do is high-five you and they just give you the gun. They go, you got the cash? You go, there you go. You're a gun owner. And they fucking gave him a nine. He's like, all right. It's a shitty-ass nine, too. But it is, I think that is, you know, Katie will probably see this and we'll have to have a conversation about this, but when we get a house, I'm getting a gun. Yeah. I love guns. That's why they say, like, when you get a generator, you gotta get a gun. Yeah, because someone, because what happens if someone comes for that generator? Exactly. You think pleases and thank yous are gonna let it be left? Yeah, exactly. You just brandish the thing and you go, whoa! Yeah, that's why I wanted to. Nah, dude, there ain't nothing. The only thing with guns that comes close to that is the slide going back, but the main one, the one that fucking kicks you in your taint is the fucking. Did you go to a range or, like. It's Nashville, so you can go out. It's never been fired. Never been fired. The gun's never been fired. I mean, I've shot guns before, but, like, that one that I got, for my home, like. Yeah. I just, luckily, I've never had to use it. Thank God. Or grab it or anything. Yeah, it is one of those ones where, if you use it, it's the best bet. Yeah. Because you go, well, it sprays. Like, did you ever see that interview with Sturgill Simpson on Rogan? He was talking about, he's got, like, an assault rifle, and this guy had broken into his house in East Nashville, and, like, he came down the stairs, like. Like, Rainbow Six style? Yeah. And the dude just, like. Looks up and sees Sturgill Simpson in his Tidy White. He's pointing an assault rifle at him. Yeah. And he just left. Yeah, absolutely. Also, Sturgill Simpson has the face of a Navy SEAL. Yes, he does. He, like, if you saw that face, he looks a lot like my mom's dad. He looks a lot like my grandfather. He looks like a Civil War soldier. Yes, he does. He's got that face. Yes, he does. In football, I call that World War I face. Brock Purdy has it for the 49ers. Yeah. Famous catcher of the San Francisco Giants, Buster Posey. Okay. They look like guys that got shot. Shot down over Europe in, like, 1960s. Just faces that you don't see anymore. Yeah. They're all in Kentucky. Yes. Well, isn't he. Sturgill's from Kentucky, wasn't he? Yeah. Dude, I. Tyler Childers has the same vibe. You two are my guys. Yeah. Yeah, you and Sturgill are guys that, like, keep it. You, Sturgill, Homme. There's guys that I listen to that just keep evolving with music. And you know what it is? And I think this is. Because you're all stylistically very different. Y'all. You guys all play like you love music. Yeah. And I think that's, like, we're in an era where that's lost in everything. Like, I'm watching comedians who don't like comedy. I'm watching chefs that don't want to cook. Yeah. You're watching musicians that don't want to play. But they're doing it because they're making more money than they've ever made. So why would they turn it off? And you go, but that's not why we're doing this shit. Sure. You know, it's like you were playing a guitar before you could fucking walk. And I have a great reverence for the art. So. Was that hard growing up with a third-generation musician? Was there moments where you're like, do I want to do this? I never had any doubt, man. Really? I knew that it was going to be my profession one way or another. My grandfather, I mean, he was like a career military man. And he just played on the weekends. So I knew, like, at the very least, I could do that. I could work a straight job and then play on the weekends. And I could at least make a living doing that. But I always. Strive to do more. And I just always wanted to play. So. What was your first moment of. Because you're around all these professional musicians. You know, whether it's your dad or even your grandfather playing on the weekends. When was the moment where someone that you respected as a musician saw you play and went like, holy shit. Because, I mean, you're doing. For me, you're just doing magic. And I'm a simple man. Like, you could play a three-chord song and I'd be like. But I'm talking about a guy. Where you felt. I guess, you know, there's not a better way to say it. Like, seen. Like, where you were like, yeah, I can fucking play this shit. I mean, I was really lucky. I had really good friends in the business that were, like, local legends that played on the weekends. And they would need guitar players. And they would let me come out. And I would just do it, you know, for pocket change, you know. Because I just wanted the experience. I got my learner's permit when I was 14. And I started, you know, and I had my dad's old minivan. Yeah. Pontiac Transport 94, baby. And then in that van. It does make me feel old because I go, that's still a new car. Is that it? Hot new wheels. I was 11 with 94. That's a fucking. That's a great car. I mean, at the time, it was relatively new, I guess. No, but you're, like, driving around 14. Man, the South, they just let you fuck. They go. They just, yeah. They go, can you tie your own shoes? You can drive a car. Here's a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. And then you go to the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you go to the Pacific Northwest, and they go, I just. You're 19 years old. I don't know if you should ride in the front seat. A little coddling. Yeah. But that's how it was, like, hell, when I came up here. Like, in South Carolina, again, like, you can buy an enclosed trailer without a title, without anything, without. You don't have to put a tag on it. If the lights are working, you're good. And we drove it up here, and we accidentally went on a parkway. This is when I was, like, 18, and we accidentally went on a parkway, and they pulled us over, and they're like, you got a title registration for your trailer, there's no tag on it, and we're like, what? What are you talking about with your rules? It was in Yonkers. Oh, buddy. They're just itching for something. Yeah, dude. They saw us coming, man. They impounded it. We never got it back. You never got it back? We went over. All our gear was in it. We went over, and we were like, hey, you know, like, can we at least get our gear out of it? And they were like, you got to pay us at least half the impound rate. Half the rate, or whatever. So we had to figure out how to find $500. Fuck. Because, like, $500 at that time, we were like, what are we going to fucking do? Yeah, you're almost going, we might as well just buy new equipment. Exactly. Just 500 bucks is a king's ransom. Yeah. So we went in. I called my stepmom, who worked at the courthouse. She was a clerk of court, and she went in, or she called them, and, like, gave them the riot act, you know. And I went back over there. Because before that, I went in, and I was like, all right, we got the half the money. Here you go. He was like, yeah, I lied. Yeah, dude. Let me tell you something about. That's what I was like, I hate New York. Yeah, let me tell you something about New Yorkers. That is, that's a superpower that they have. It was sick. Where they go, hey, you want the parkway? Well, you're going north to south. Yeah. They go, south, that's $750. Yeah. There's nothing I can do about that. You go, you just said it was 500. They go, I know, it's crazy you asked that 15 minutes ago, and it changed. It's like, when I moved here, like, the little. Things with the moving goalposts, especially trying to find an apartment and shit. Like, I moved into that place in Queens with just cash, and the guy was like, you cool not signing a lease? And I was like, I mean, are you going to kick me out? He goes, I'll give you a month. I lived in that apartment for 15 years. Whoa. Never signed a lease. That's awesome. Month to month for 50. He increased it once, but he never fixed anything. Damn. You can ask comics. In my kitchen, me and Vecchione lived together, we had a leaky pipe, and it folded under our kitchen, so there was a ramp in our kitchen. You know how many comics I know that twisted their ankle going to get a glass of water? And they're like, dude, you got to say something. I go, dude, you got to hit it with speed. That's what I always say. You got to hit that thing with speed and hope you fucking launch, dude. So, back to the smoking while playing with action figures, because I love meeting a kindred spirit like that. At what age did you put down the action figures? Because I was maybe 13? But, like, knew I had to put them away. I'm about the same. I think I just got too busy, like, working. That's where you start going, like, you're doing real shit. I don't have time for my hobbies anymore. I know. And you go, dude, my hobbies are setting up epic battles. And I did, too. Yeah, dude. Dude, good luck. All I know is if you were drinking with my mom in the 90s, I'm sorry that the staircase was littered, because that staircase, for kids that can't afford the aircraft carriers or whatever, the stairs. Are the best. It's a mountain range. Stairs, cupboard, like, with, like, the wire, like, because I had the kung fu grip, so they could grip onto the wire, like, shelving. Oh, yeah, dude. My stepdad's garaged. He would step on G.I. Joe's all the time. He'd be like, goddammit. And you'd be like, he was hiding out. Yeah. He was hiding out. My stepdad was fucking crazy, bro. Really? My stepdad, like. When did your parents break up? When I was, like, four. Okay. Four and a half, five. Yeah, same. Yeah. So, when. Because that is an age where you have, like, no memories of them being together. The memories I have of them being together are bad. Really? Yeah. Like, just screaming in each other's faces. Are you the only. Are you their only child? Me and my sister. Okay. So, you had the two of them. So, with your sister, you had someone to go, like, you know, this is fucking. You believe this shit? This fucking. These people are crazy. I always think that's weird with, where we're very similar, something I could never connect with. With my friends who had parents that they saw them love each other. It's insane. It's insane to me. My wife's like that. Really? Where she's just like, they just love each other, and they're just there, and you go. Like, when I come across that, it's like a psychological experiment. I gotta find who the fuck up is in the family. So, like, the whole Christmas, I'm like. Someone gets a little too drunk, and you go, we have a front runner. Yeah. We have a front runner. They're not serving here, and you. - Yeah. - How did you get that? - Yeah, exactly. outside yeah should you take a walk yeah i uh they'll be like uh yeah just make sure like you know hide your hide your stuff yeah that was why what who wants it i'm like is there somebody snooping when they go to the bathroom and they're like just hide it if you could maybe i don't know tuck it up in the heat vent you go so you have someone here with a real problem that's what i'm saying that was as i got older i started becoming more comfortable gravitating to my people my family that would get fucked up yeah because i'd go uh everyone else was like hi how are you and then you know you got a cousin or an aunt or uncle outside smoking weed you're like can i come hang yeah that was immediately who i vibed with because it was you don't see like dude my parents hated each other my whole life and it took i was in my 30s my mom and i were in san francisco and she hadn't been back since like the 80s and we were out there because she was helping me with my my dad's mom's birthday party and she was like i'll fly out there with you they had a good relationship so i was like you can help me with the birthday party because i can't do it by myself yeah my grandma was turning 90 she's like yeah i got it and we're driving through san francisco and my mom just like gets emotional out of nowhere and i was like you all right she's like last time i was driving down the street was like 1981 with your father and we were like so in love and i was like and i came back and i told my therapist i was like it was the first time i've ever seen a glimpse of my parents and i was like being in love wow of being like fuck i love that dude and he's been dead almost 30 years so you're like that's crazy to me that people like you and i it's like not ever drinking water yeah and people are like oh it was like you had your first sip of water you go it kind of hurt my throat i didn't really like it right because i'm not used to it yeah and then you grow up and you're supposed to have these relationships and you're like but i don't have any but i don't have a manual to go off of i think that's what people don't realize children of divorce don't have yeah they don't have the manual to go like this is how you act which i think in some ways we're we're favorable in that way yeah because it's like when you don't have credit exactly the bad news is you don't have any credit yeah the good news is you don't have bad credit exactly that's a fucking great way to put that you know you're not gonna fuck that you don't because there are marriages that sour that it's almost better that like i always really respected the fact that my mom even though she got divorced from my stepdad i respected the fact that my stepdad was a man who was a man who was a that she was like this ain't working for me yeah if you're unhappy fucking and i always i think that saved me from getting locked down into a lot of relationships that weren't probably good that i didn't realize because it was like oh that was the manual i got where i was like oh there's an eject button yeah my mom's like here's a strap pull this shit you'll shoot straight up i never knew about the eject button i you know like my attachment style all that i mean because i research all this stuff now which is good as you go right and again it's because i had like two or three relationships like real relationships with like women that i probably would have married if i and i was just a terrible partner just a real problem yeah and just like like you said you know like calls coming from inside the house oh dude when you realize that where you go like they're so and i would never want to disturb their peace now that we're done but i always thought there's like a lot of my exes that if i ever bumped into hey come here come here let's bring it in hey sorry about that that's on me couldn't take in the emotions i just write about it dude but that's what i love about your music uh is it's it's very personal in a way that doesn't feel exploit it's you don't exploit your personal life but you do what i think good artists do which is intake and then have like an alchemy where out comes great shit yeah you know it's i mean like the worst example of it is when everyone wanted adele to go through a breakup every album and you're like maybe don't make her yeah maybe enjoy the next thing but that's what i do love about specifically you with the marcus king band and you doing your solo stuff and then going to working on other stuff is the way that i feel about sturgill doing what he does then going doing johnny blue skies or homie doing queens and then them crooked vultures or producing fucking arctic monkeys you know what i mean it's like you're moving and changing i like an artist that i can that it takes me a second to catch up to their next album because i go well they're different people that's what i think good stand-up specials are too sure where you go oh i'm seeing a different part of his life maybe a point he's making now he wouldn't have made 10 years yeah it's all perspective exactly and just evolving with the craft and but the patience i think i think where you get a good fan base is is where you install a patience with people your fans to go hey i'm i'm growing too make them a fan of you yeah and then just go hey because i you know there's queens of the stone age fans that i see that go like no man i want to play in that 2002 desert rock and you go but that they were fucking 28 year old guys right now they're breaching 50 yeah like you want them to be i don't want that i don't want people to you know what i mean don't stay sexy i want you to you can stay sexy but stay sexy in your own way in a yeah a grown-up way in a grown-up way i just feel like a lot of entertainment now doesn't make room for that so that's why i love seeing when you go to the blue note and you go i'm gonna fuck around with a drummer yeah is it the drummer is it here is it chris the reason that you can trust it because you go i know this guy will always like almost like a safety net like he'll catch up to you yeah i don't want that i don't want that you you got you got to have that and i mean i have that with my band too the marcus king band my drummer and i jack we've worked together for like almost 15 years so you know you got to have people that you can trust yeah it is i mean those are the strongest relationships i've ever built in my life or other musicians so like well they understand you more they understand that you know i think it's not that non-musicians can't understand your life but it's what we were saying it's like you don't know what it's like to live in a van and travel and be on the fucking cross bronx expressway and get your shit jacked because a guy goes the fuck is this yeah the fucking van yeah with a trailer you're like you don't know what that you can go like yeah police can be mean and you're like motherfucker not if they take your gear yeah it's beyond mean it's cruel it is cruel so you have that so you feel like you have that with chris i do man like just as soon as it was like it was me and my you know briley my wife now like it was our like third date i had met her and i flew her out to la where we were recording and chris his wife was pregnant so she was there and they connected great and the four of us just became really close and just um i don't know some people you just meet you're just like yeah immediately just like you know it's the best yeah if that's i mean friendship fucking rules because when you vibe with somebody and then you go like oh shit that's that thing and keep doing this it is it's interesting because you really do like feel like a child like of like do you want to sleep over yeah exactly you want to ask her that you're like do you love movies i love movies i want to play like it's so it is like i remember the first time i worked with shane literally he's like emceeing at helium and i was headlining it was like a thursday night i didn't have anything to do with it and i was like i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it and i'm just in the green room i'm like well i brought my playstation i'm gonna play madden he's like i love madden yeah and then he i'm not joking he came to the hotel we played madden all night and i couldn't find weed and he was like my boy makes edibles and it was mccusker mccusker made his own gummies and he brought me a thing of gummies and he's like you should put these in the refrigerator i don't know how strong they can get that was what he said and i ate one and it fucked me up i love that yeah dude the whole mccusker clan is they're great great i just hung billy uh in pennsylvania when i went down with shane billy's the fucking man of war mode i've been like telling billy i'm like i need a war mode shirt i need the val kilmer war more journey's like dude he sent me a hat yeah the hats are sick good war mode might have the best merch in the podcast game low key low key but be fucking quiet don't tip anybody off yeah because i don't want their shit gets stricken i want that fucking heat shirt it's heat that war mode fucking heat shirts what's up but i do agree you like meet people and you go like my favorite part of moving to new york with stand-up was kind of like that like the way that musicians vibe it was like meeting people doing shitty mics doing shitty bar shows but you're like oh dude like joe list and i just immediately were like love joe list oh yeah we were just but we were both obsessed i remember the thing that linked us we were both obsessed with the jerry seinfeld documentary comedian and he was like comedian i was like dude that's one of the reasons i moved here and he was like oh fuck and then we just quoted at each other and you're like what the fuck are you talking about and i'm like what the fuck are you talking about and then he would put me on just he would argue about the celtics being the greatest team of all time he'd be like he never watched the 1984 and he'd like go to his apartment and we'd just be drunk watching yeah and that's what i love as i think a lot of the times you know i don't know how it is about the music industry but with stand-up you just meet people that you go you don't really like this shit and it bums you out it is it's a bummer yeah because you go fuck you're just a hooker it's yeah it's it is the most it's a bummer yeah because you go fuck you're just a hooker it's yeah it's it is the most i mean you're you're offering somebody i mean you're you're offering somebody i mean you're you're offering somebody something that it's deeply spiritual and something that it's deeply spiritual and something that it's deeply spiritual and and just uh important to other people and you're just yeah giving it out for money yes it's disgusting it feels the same there used to be a strip club in montreal called super sex right it was sick and a superman logo it's fucking awesome the joe list we were up there in 2012 it's both of us still drinking joe list was like let's go get lunch at a strip club and i was like as you do as you do good deals great burger good price it was good wasn't bad it was actually a pretty good burger and then we got lap dances and the this girl i just felt you know i was one of those guys that would just fall in love with one girl and be like yeah no no she loves me yeah but this girl i mean was trying to rub the skin off me yeah and i and i was like dude i really fucking think like and so then we do the festival and i just uh signed with like a new agency and the agents get up there on the weekend and they're like bro you know they're got big bro energy and they're like we gotta go to the fucking strip club bro and i'm getting hammered with them and i'm like yeah hell yeah it's like saturday night so this is like the a team my girl's gonna be there yeah that's what i was hoping i was hoping i go i wish i could check the schedule uh but who's on the lineup tonight oh fuck oh fuck i need rosalyn but we go we go to saturday night and it's packed i mean list and i were there there's like 10 people there and we go and it's fucking packed and it's i'm with at the time i was with caa and it's like some agents from caa and they're like dropping cards and money so they get a good table whatever there's this beautiful not my girl but just this beautiful girl stack you can tell she's gorgeous and i was pretty drunk and i was like i had dance she's like yeah you can get a dance and i remember the feeling of watching her check her phone while giving me a laugh dance that's what it feels like when you find out people are doing stand up for money where you go you just checked your phone yeah this is nickelback i know how long this song goes and she was like dancing on me and her phone was on like a thing and she went like she was on me and i saw her go like that it's like when your therapist checks the clock or falls asleep you've had him fall asleep yeah pulled it on me today damn well like i go no no no and he goes sorry oh wow yeah i mean he hasn't fully falls but he goes like he nods he not heroin not straight up heroin my bass player does heroin nods but he doesn't do heroin but he he's just like he can sleep sleeping just a sleepy boy sleepy guy dude sleepy guys dude you gotta watch it because sleepy guys that has to suck to be genuinely a sleepy guy and people to go he's on heroin he's on something he's on heroin yeah because i've had friends when they're on heroin they go dude i just didn't sleep last night and you go i'm not a fucking idiot yeah where it's 3 p.m and you're going like yeah and you're also in a real good mood i don't think i don't think boys get this good usually sleepy boys want to go to sleep sleepy boys on heroin are like dude everything is everything's okay they're like no that's that's one that i never touched was good yeah the opiates let's do it dude pinky swear no opiates or else me and you are going to be putting on one hell of a variety show under a highway for each other i go marcus play me on hey you guys might have seen a meat and a handful of shit down the street just in slacks just nothing but just slacks no underwear yeah man so i mean like growing up a child of divorce like that and smoking cigarettes when you put your action figures away there is like a retirement ceremony where you go well the jerseys and the rafters yeah dude and then you if it feels weird because like big jay and i talked about this when people started sending me like wrestling figures they're like send them to me there was a quick moment where you just go like and you go no i got nothing i lost the touch it's like trying to start a car you go and you go no i just ain't there i'd have to get jumped through it was funny they sent it i unboxed it and i was like yeah that's what that's always made shane laugh just the thought of someone sitting there going like making the noise oh look out we're like sitting on your chest you're like motherfuckers did you ever get caught by your like cool friends playing with toys um like your friends yeah they'd come over and they'd be like what is this yeah i don't even i don't even know oh it's for my baby cousin yeah my little baby cousin's over here's a little baby that definitely happened yeah yeah that's before i knew that i could just own whatever it was man just be like yeah that's my shit i'm into that teach that in middle school yeah it's the fucking colin quinn bit of the middle school yeah it's the fucking colin quinn bit of the middle school about teach kids how to fucking small talk teach kids how to own what they like because i really feel like that is a message that would hit everybody yeah every race creed color religion if you just learned when you're 12 years old to go because i like it yeah my sister tried my my older sister tried doing that and they do that with like really really big divisive issues yeah but it's like maybe start small yeah and maybe let's start with maybe we start at an approachable level to where then they can understand who they actually are comic books like yeah comic books uh toys for horse girls keep your horses up babies dude we all got to be more like horse girls be like horse girls they love their shit unapologetically unapologetically clomping around this fucking room clomp dude yeah clomp for your soul yeah they would do it and they could do the noises it's their hair is always braided perfectly perfectly dude be more of a horse girl we all should be if we were if we had a good society we would follow the lead of horse girls well now there's like there is like adult horse girls now yeah that do like um you know like the stick horse yeah that might be that's holding on too long that's a different thing that's that's i would say let's let's early there's a there's a point where we had to let go they have to let go let the horse run away let it go don't put a stick between your legs over the age of 20 nope because i can't take you seriously but a 13 year old girl that stands 10 toes down for her favorite she can go horse knowledge all day enjoy it great yeah but maybe we let go around 14 15 absolutely that's what i'm wondering you wonder if the shame of what it is and us letting go is what got us but then you go i wish i would have just had 10 of that 10 more to go those are gi joe extremes those fucking rule yeah i'm not embarrassed by that absolutely but there is also like you know i have a lot of friends this maybe says more about me but i have a lot of friends adult friends who are still into wrestling very interesting you're one of them my buddy dwayne trucks from widespread panic yeah he loves wrestling the mayor obviously i mean i'm not going to he lives it that's what all we talk about it that's what we talk about exclusively you know so there is a certain point but there's also a letting go era because people don't realize when i was 18 to 23 i didn't you're not emotionally invested i can't be i can't be i'll tell you what i got a little too excited for brock lesnar and oba femi i got it i was i was trying to talk about it at the cellar with people and they were not having it i went to a wedding that dude was at he is brock scary huge yeah dude he is legitimately super nice guy i mean he he can be yeah because everyone else is afraid of him and his wife was with him uh sable sable yeah dude i was like hell yeah what's up sable what's up sable thank you thank you for pulling it out of me for seven years sable came when i hit puberty and i was like oh i was met this was meant for me yeah the attitude arrow with them showing tna the way they did i was like this at an age where you couldn't get porn on your phone i was like this fucking rule i'll tell you and shout out to the nitro girls wcw nitro girls never get the credit hey i agree they did it i'll tell you and it very well could have been a sable but for the sake of the story um just that part of you never really dies you know like i ordered a stone cold steve austin poster off of ebay for my gym hell yeah and um it showed up it was wrong poster i think it was sable or like one of the you know wwf like chicks and i was like oh man i wanted a beautiful woman oh i wanted a bald badass i didn't want this beautiful babe trish stratus not today yeah yeah so genuinely bummed out that was the thing immediately back on ebay you go now send me my fucking rattlesnake poster they uh that was one of the things my mom really made me laugh about when i was on the phone with stone cold when we were doing that cartoon with him and i got off the phone with him and she was like man you were 12 years old again but i really was because you're like talking to him you're like yes sir yes sir i'm sorry i want heartbreak i'm so sorry i love you so much but he's like all right hell yeah man just fucking shit dude hell yeah dude just you the first time it's what you're saying it's still in you yeah the first time i heard his voice first time he popped up when i pitched the show to him it was during covid when he popped up on that zoom call i was like oh yeah like jump scare right same way i felt stand up new york when chris rock walked in the first time and i saw him in person oh shit yeah i was like dude you're fucking you're fucking you're fucking you're fucking you're fucking you're you're like the reason I'm here right now. bigger and blacker and he was just like looked around and he's like this you know and then i mean like with music do you have that memory of who you were in the room with the first time that you're like man i mean like rick rubin is one where you go i mean yeah obviously like shit created def jam yeah i mean walking in the room with rick that that definitely felt was that at shangri-la did you go to rick's house i went to shangri-la and um he was doing an interview in the yard with mike campbell from the heartbreakers and um like sick i just i drove past and i was like two of the most like i'd easily identifiable people of all time sitting and talking to each other and um i just waited in the kitchen and then he came in and he was just like super stoked that's the thing i really like about rick is that he's he's a fan first yeah yeah he works with people he genuinely likes yeah and he's maintained that for all these years yeah he does some you know well he just he's crazy old rich guy also big wrestling fan that's what i was just gonna say loves wrestling yeah honestly i probably think one of my highlights of my life would be able to talk wrestling with rick rubin absolutely because he's paid attention to the whole time that you can reference eras and you and he's he's there you'll be watching the summer slam and you're like fucking rick rubin yeah right there behind the broadcast booth yeah like i send him stuff all the time like my boy uh kevin scott bass player he has a trio called the wednesday night titans i'll send it to you yeah but they just play like old wrestling clips yo i've seen that yeah they play like jazz fusion over it yo where have i seen that i might have taught i think you might have sent to me after you did the bonfire the first time probably i might have talked to kevin about it yeah kevin's the man kevin was with you yeah when we did that we're talking about rocket league we're going to talk about yeah fucks i think you might have said because it's cool as shit it's so badass and that's awesome they play wrestling in the background while they jam and it's but it's like they get like awa clips they get like they go deep they go like nwa charlotte like fucking 82 shit where you're like damn that's toly anderson and kevin arm drags he was really into wrestling and kevin was like a student of colonel bruce hampton who's like our southeast like um and colonel bruce was in sling blade and kevin was like a student of colonel bruce hampton who's like you know really he was like the rotund guy that said like the poem oh yeah you know in doyle's apartment where and he's like so colonel bruce so now like when i work with dwight yoke i'm gonna ask him about colonel bruce and stuff yeah hell yeah colonel was like everything is wrestling everything is he's like politics is wrestling it is music wrestling it is it's just putting people over yeah and that's what i love about it is like you know and i've said it a ton of times but when you're little be a hulk hogan fan and when you're older you're a macho man fan because you realize macho man made everyone look like a million bucks in the ring and it was all about like him making the match look as good as possible bret hart same way you could put bret hart in a ring with any but bruce pritchard talks about this all the time on his podcast put bret hart in the ring with anybody he'd make him look like a fucking world champ yeah there's this guy there's a specific story i forget the guy's name they signed him to the wwf at the time guys built like a great god looks good good on the mic they put him in a match bret hart was still part of the match with bret hart and they're like we got our next hulk hogan this guy's fucking crazy and then they put him in a match with someone else and they're like this guy fucking sucks and you're like he was all bret hart that's what led to bret hart getting the push was they were like oh shit this dude is truly amazing at it but i agree with the colonel it's the same way in music too yeah you want to play with people who want to make the whole thing elevate yeah and when you play with people who are you know are occupied with themselves trying to put themselves over yeah it's just it's it's really disappointing yeah yeah that is so when you're at rick rubin's house and he comes in the kitchen and he's just like stoked to see you is there a part of the back of your brain that you're like what the fuck is my life right now absolutely shortly shortly thereafter like i i mean that that would happen time and time again but i was working there and it was during the pandemic because i met him right before the pandemic hit and then i went overseas and i came back because i had to and then i just sequestered myself at shangri-la really and they had this guy dr johnny who retired after the pandemic because they had to bring him in every day to give covid tests to everybody yeah and i was working in the chapel and the red hot chili peppers were working in the main house so like i would sit and get my covid test like next to flea and chad smith that's crazy just like yeah anthony ketis is practicing a new like sorry man i gotta practice and you go no sounds good your brain scooped and he goes you have to have an aneurysm to make those noises or how does it work that's but like do you feel when you're in that situation you got the red hot chili peppers in the main house and you're working in in the other house is there a sense of jealousy of like how much rick time are they getting because i feel like that's where i would go i'd be like you didn't even listen to my new riff you know like i saw it when my boy tyler childers worked with rick hell yeah i saw like his footage and i was like rick's in the room while the band's playing like he didn't do that for me yeah and i was like i sound like such a bitch dude i was telling my wife that and she was like dude shut out it was probably he was just that one day it was probably just for that video like stop being a bitch yeah and i was like yeah you're right that's what i always used to do where i'd be like louis ck didn't bring me on the road and she'd be like dude who cares katie's like you don't need to go on the road you're you're outlining yourself and you go here i know it would just be really nice to be asked i'm being a bitch when you realize that you go i'm being a bitch it's a tough one that's find a good woman to call you a bitch that's what you need that is end of the day that's what you need you need to go nut up what the fuck are you talking about but not in a way that you take it personally it just just points out like it's perspective they love you so they're telling you hey i'm not a bitch i'm not a bitch i'm not a bitch hey you're you're and again this is something that i think is common with people that watch that grew up without parents loving each other is that you go well i don't think anyone loves me and you go they do you're just you're going back to an old program setting yeah oh absolutely where you're like fuck dude fuck but i want rick because i i don't even you telling me that i go i know exactly my insecurity would lie yep that if if rick rubin wasn't down at the house the whole time going sitting cross-legged being like damn yeah this is better than a big show choke slam i'd be like yeah right i'd be in my own fucking head about it i know but when you're making the album with rick rubin are there and you see him his influence put his put his fingers in it is it the moment where you go like damn you are your motherfucking there were moments of that a lot of it was just retrospective and seeing like how much he made me do it myself yeah you know what i mean how much he made me do it myself yeah you know what i mean how much he kind of isolated me to be the one to call the shots yeah and how much uh how much bad behavior i had to unlearn from from having lived at that point like two or three years in nashville at that point and just trying to construct a hit sure because rick forcing it out yeah rick hates commerce he hates creating for the sake of people buying it i love that you got to create for yourself but he wouldn't really tell me any of this directly that's a good sensei yeah he was a sensei a hundred percent he's just like no now you're learning there you go i made this and he's like finally i'm just waxing rick's car his car collection can suck my dick but still i learned a lot from it yeah there is um you know i think that you do have those people that teach you like hey relax you're doing it you know colin quinn gave me one of my greatest notes of all time he's basically comedies rick rubin he really is comedies rick rubin and there was a moment we were doing a show and this was fucking 10 years ago in woodstock we were doing the woodstock comedy festival and he watched my set and he got off stage and he did the like thing you know the aggregate he's like you fucking he's like you write all these jokes and you don't perform them he's like you just fucking stand there and fucking say your jokes and he's like perform them yeah you spent the time writing it you spent the time do it fucking perform the joke and you're like damn you go to la and you go oh they're all performing their jokes wow new york we just stand there and we go this is my joke and i wrote my joke yeah then you go to la and you're like these motherfuckers are selling no i know i i get the same way man really i go see people i'm like yep and the crowd goes crazy for like like i went to a billy string show and like yeah billy will fucking i mean he rips and like we started out together so like really i didn't know that yeah we both moved to nashville around the same time we were neighbors that's sick yeah that's fucking sick it's kind of one of those things you guys have just jammed yeah the thought of marcus king and billy strings jamming is just making me go like the fuck the fuck is going that's fucking awesome yeah man and but you were saying you watch billy strings like yeah like watching billy's show like he knows how to work a crowd yeah and like you know it's the same thing again i talked to my wife about she's like yeah you do just kind of stand there and i'm like well okay i'll uh i'll perform a little more you know what's funny is similarly like uh we went to a billy string show and i was like i'm gonna do a billy string show this is a couple years ago katie and i went and saw nate he was doing this like giant theater in new jersey him and afterwards we're driving home and i was like he's so comfortable and she was like yeah you could be more comfortable she's like take your time with it it's a good note and you go shit and then it is it's just like from watching someone that you know that you respect and love and you go fuck i could i could probably use a little of that i don't remember who he said it to or who said somebody was talking about ron white said if things are going really well slow down yeah things are going really bad slow down yeah and i take that advice before every show really that's that is very good and ron white's one of the gods i mean just like the first time i went down to austin he was around the mothership i had to stop myself from calling him sir i do because i love ron white he's like how you doing he sat down i was like hello sir you're the only thing worth a shit on the blue collar comedy tour you want to say something you go you were the bernie mack of the white version of you he's so sick he and it is like there is a thing that is you know what i would say everything is wrestling yeah because that's what when you see celebrities when they talk about doing the wwe stuff like steve and amal or like the people that have done like real matches they say triple h says fucking call slow down take your time more and you're like oh yeah you don't realize it wow because you i think that's for anybody in life even if you're at a fucking even if you work in an office and you're like this can't it i promise you can apply to something just take your fucking time and slow down be present that's it man and that's the hardest shit the world that's what the reason buddha achieved nirvana is because he slowed the fuck down and it just was there it was just present and just lived in himself i mean i try to apply it to every part of my life man like i'm going to a wedding i don't want to go to with my wife i'm like i'm gonna find somebody here that i can connect with over something yeah and like you'd be surprised like you meet like her friends like cousins husband who also doesn't really want to be there but he microdoses mushrooms and i'm talking to him about him growing mushrooms in his bathtub you know i'm connecting with somebody yeah exactly i went to uh katie had her high school reunion up in boston and uh i was there and i connected with all the plus ones yeah because we were like they did a full class photo and there's like me and three guys and a girl sitting around i go are you guys plus ones yeah and they're like yeah and i go fuck them you want to get a plus one photo there you go took a selfie about hey fuck framing ham high we're the real stars no but shout out framing ham high go go go flyers always it's fly or die you know until you die but yeah man i do think man in an age of digital isolation where everyone can just be by themselves and make themselves feel crazy finding that time to slow down and connect with people you know what i miss is like connecting with like a small talk at like grocery stores and shit yeah it doesn't happen like i don't miss drinking but i miss connecting with people through drinking i've just gotten to the point where i can go out and really just like i can have a few heineken nas or yeah shout out thank you for making it taste like heineken it tastes so good it tastes just like heineken like a guinness zero is fucking awesome too give me a club soda with a lime makes me feel like i'm having a little bit of a i'll go to an airport bar and have a fucking club soda with a lime and end up talking the way that i used to talk when i was doing two shots and a beer yeah we were like oh fuck i'm talking to this roofer from cleveland it is dad died it's a comfortability thing yeah and what i've realized is like going out it's like i don't have to lower my like i mean you do but it's because everyone else does everybody lowers the veil has been lowered yeah and you can do it too and it is that's what they said in that book that i used to quit drinking the easy way to stop drinking is he's like there's a whole chapter about the social anxiety of stopping drinking and he goes you're the same as you were when you were six years old and you went to a birthday party you're scared and nervous for 10 to 15 minutes and then 30 minutes in you're playing pool with a guy you just met and you're like oh this is actually fun i'm you know that's how i feel like i'm like oh yeah just give it a little bit of time it's also nice when like we went to a wedding and katie noticed it she's like oh you stay the same intelligence and everyone drops down and you go yeah that's when you know it's your time to leave yeah when you're seeing people be too stupid you go i gotta go i always tell my wife it's like nothing after the second location yeah yeah you've been listening to jack jack donaghy from 30 rock yeah never fall of course lemon you never follow a hippie to a second location well yeah well there's definitely that i've always i've always followed that you know that's just that was born into my fucking brain i knew you know follow a hippie to a second location yep because we were at this wedding and it's like i'm gonna go to a second location and i'm gonna go to a second location and it's like oh we're all going to the bar and it's like oh this bar closes at 11 we're gonna go to so-and-so's room yeah i'm like that's where it stops that's where i'm out yeah and your friends burt's really cool about that when i'm on the road with him he knows i don't want to hit a second location so he'll get me out to like all right we did the show on the tour and then we go this place like florida alabama yeah but you ain't gonna get me to the thing right i'm the next place is where my bed and my steam deck is at so i used to do drugs i would always go to the to the after party and then i would end up in like an apartment with just like a lamp you know what i'm saying yeah just like some lawn chairs it's just a cat that's not nice to you yeah and you go what are we doing here he's like cutting it up on like a bible yeah dude you go this isn't where i want to be when i do when i was drinking i would like wake up on futons where i'd be like how the fuck am i on long island yeah you're gonna ride a train back dude i went drinking one time in denver this is after i moved away and i came back and i woke up in like an apartment with a guy i went to high school with that i wasn't even close with and i was like what the fuck he was like you were hammered last night you're like how far away from you like trying to find out where my mom's place is like how the fuck am i gonna get home had a lot of those yeah but now that's the best part of growing getting over that now you go that's the relief where you go i never have to have that moment again never have to wake up and be like yeah waking up and you go exactly where i went to bed exactly what i said to that person i don't like yeah exactly that's what it is it's like i truly think that's the most refreshing part is like almost finding out everything we've been talking about whether it's like stuff you want to make or playing with figures and stuff it's just like ownership that you feel that you go i don't need to do that anymore and i'm okay with that yeah there isn't like i'm better than anybody or my life is better you just go like this is who i am now yeah it's the ownership absolutely horse girl mentality yeah buy uh listen don't buy listen and then buy but listen to everything that marcus king has ever made because i promise you he's one of the most talented human beings walking on this planet right now to watch him play guitar live is truly one of my like i've got to do it a couple times you fucking rip um look out if you how many are you gonna do another one of these blue note man yeah i'm doing the blue note right now so keep an eye out for that it's all on my website yeah marcusking.com marcus king of official.com i gotta mention waltz across texas is happening we're playing stage coach and then we're just working our way across texas baby sick we're playing all these old um like you know dance halls and like honky tonks and uh with the marcus king band marcus king band that's fucking awesome we're trying to do a documentary around it just to you know shine some light on these old honky tonk dance halls like florist country store and helotes texas and uh green hall out in uh green texas um so if you live in texas be on the lookout for that be on the lookout a lot of people on the on the instagram stuff saying there's no texas states but it's its own thing baby yeah which is great because they go no texas states and you go how about i just give you your own fucking tour get your own thing we'll go play in some old school venues dude you're the man i'm so glad you came by to do this for real you're one of the best you you you you