The podcast features a deeply personal and reflective conversation about the host’s journey in the entertainment industry, centered on emotional connections formed during film shoots and the creative process. A key narrative unfolds around a heartfelt film experience in Toronto, where emotional moments—like a "crying day" and a moment of shared vulnerability—strengthened bonds with co-stars and created lasting memories. The host shares candid stories of car accidents, including a Valentine’s Day crash, illustrating their personal struggles with driving and emotional reactions. These anecdotes are woven with humor and self-awareness, highlighting the unpredictability and stress of everyday life. The host also discusses the show *I Love LA*, which stems from their move to Los Angeles during the pandemic, where the title symbolizes both a personal and emotional transformation. Central to the conversation is the idea that emotional growth comes from experiencing difficult or "toxic" relationships, which help shape healthy boundaries. The host emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, creative collaboration, and the joy of short, immersive visits to projects—what they call "popping in." The showrunning experience is portrayed as a challenging yet rewarding process of learning, listening, and co-creating with talented writers and crew members. Throughout, the tone is warm, self-deprecating, and celebratory of both personal growth and the shared energy of creative work. The conversation ends with a sense of community, resilience, and the enduring joy of connection—whether in film, on the road, or in everyday life.
This is a headgun podcast. Anyways, at the end of it, he said Happy Valentine's Day and I think in what way? Just in like a Happy Valentine's Day, I guess. We are trying to cancel you this episode. Okay, good. I just think the show you're getting too powerful and we should shut it down. I'm asking people, I'm pulling skeletons out of your closet, I'm saying let's cancel Rachel, let's cancel Rachel. Good and I'll try to like come up with stuff too or say incriminating things. About yourself. About myself or just bad takes or things that people will really hate. Just so that we have like a lot of options. You would be surprised at how many people seem to be taking that approach on this show. How many people come on here and they say something and I'm like, I've never heard you say something like that. You're like, I've known you for 10 years and this you chose today. You're like, oh, okay. That's how you feel. I'm not going to talk about who in specific, but there has been Casey Woods up brother. We got a problem. I'm going to go through and try to see from clips. No. You also know when someone's like, this is going to go viral. You know what I mean? What you're like. But they're like, I've got something to say. I have something to say. It's really crazy. Looking is good for babies or what they just do something so insane that you're like, yeah. Dude, how are you? I'm good. I miss you so much. No, we've been bad. We've been, but we have. I feel like when you shoot a film in Toronto, you create a bond for the rest of your life. Yeah. Well, something funny about the film that we shot in Toronto. It's where I fell in love with you. That I said, I already liked this girl, but this is actually a soul sister of mine. Yeah. And when we made that movie, I didn't necessarily think about the fact that, because at the time, it wasn't called, I used to be funny, I don't think. And then I didn't think about the fact that, by the way, famously it was called Broken Sand. Broken Sand, back then. Yeah. I didn't think about the fact that with so many comedians in it, people were going to think it was a comedy. Yeah. I get so many DMs being like, hey, just watch your movie with Rachel Sinett. She's amazing in it. Total star. I'm like, very fucked up from it. Yeah. No, people are like, so I'm really confused. I wanted like, just like a fun plane watch and now I feel sick. How about devastating film about the worst topic we have? Yeah. Can I offer you that? And then also when we depressed, we were like, what was it like filming? Well, there were all these cute places to go in Toronto, nothing about, and then the content of the movie is like, okay, so that's actually deeply devastating to me. Yeah. But I think that made our bond, I don't know, because then we had more fun. We were like, we have to have fun on set. There was of course the famous crying day. Well, do you want to tell this, because obviously I come across kind of childish, isn't it? No. What's a bad look for me and I would love for you to tell it? No, no. It was just, it was like, I had to cry a lot. It was a big day where you had to be, you're an incredible actor, and I think people who are watching this already know that about you, you're an unreal, very, very talented actor in addition to being fun. It's like insane, actually, but you had to do this big crying day that was like, for any actor, it would be like, it's a feat, you have to lock in. You have to lock in, you do, you sort of like choose your corner of the room and you sort of like sit, by the way, I think I'm better now at that point, I was like so stressed about like crying, and then I would like sit in the corner and like stare at a wall and like think about things, and then so anyways, there's this really great photo of me, Caleb and Sabrina, with me in the background like this, trying to pull, trying to pull on something. And Sabrina truly, there was the court house day where you had a big, like in this film, I used to be funny, written director by Ali Pengu, genius, friend of the pod, but there was this scene where the court house was very emotional for you, and for us too, but we're in the background, you know? So Sabrina and I walk on to set, not reading the room at all, so we're gonna walk on to set, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who wants to fuck, like being insane, true, in Rachel's just like. So you're rumbling in the corner, but it's also a lot to ask because I've been in scenes where it's like, you, your character is in the scene, but you're not in this, it's not as demanding for you, and you're like, do we really have to all, like, do I have to cry too? Just out of, you know what I mean, out of support when like somewhat, especially in like an ensemble thing, where you're like, you cry over there, I'm gonna do games on my phone. I want to talk with the captions on, you lock into your journey, but that was, that photo was amazing. Dude, there was one of the biggest, one of the biggest regrets I had from that movie is that they didn't choose. There was a, I'm behind you, because the scene's about, this shot's about you, but I did get myself to cry during one of the announcements of that scene, and they didn't use the one where it was close on me while I was crying. Yeah, you're like, I got it, I got it, I got it, I cried, I cried on that one. I mean, I'm not as, you're so good and so locked in, like, I would be terrified by the way, if I had to do, like, your role in a movie like that, and be so emotionally convincing. So for me in the background, to get it to you, I was like, turn the camera. Turn the camera. Turn the camera. Turn it around. Turn the camera. Like, I was wanting it back. I know, I whenever you have a, like, a take where you're like, that was the one, and they're like, well, it's a wide, and we weren't, we were on your back, and I'm like, fuck. Well, turn, fucking always have one on my face. Oh, we have one on my face. Don't care what you see in the background. Cause you're gonna get it once. Yeah. I mean, with me, you're getting it once. You're getting it once. I get so much fomo seeing that when I see anybody, like, you've posted, you've been posting stuff from your show of you guys working on it, and I just get so excited, because I'm like, oh, man, I would love to be hanging out over there. I want to hang with those guys. Yeah, it's like, do I want to work the 17 hour days that Rachel's probably working right now? No. No. But I do want to go over there and hang out a little bit. I want to pop in for like six hours. I want to bring coffee. Yeah. I'd be like, you. You. And I'll leave y'all to it. Good luck to you guys. Good luck. That's like my favorite. I just want to get, just want to get on fun. I'm like, okay, good luck with the rest of the day. Yeah. I'm going. Well, you guys have fun. I love it. I love you guys. Yeah. And then everyone's just like, God, it was nice to Caleb drop by. Yes. That's like my dream. The other thing that's amazing is like when you're like a small role in something or like you're not like a cameo, but when you get to like be a part of a shoot, but you leave before the shoot gets hard and then everyone's like, Oh, remember when Rachel was here and it was so fun, but it has nothing to do with. It's just that you were there earlier in the zoo for a less amount of time. Yeah. So it's like, people didn't really get to know me and like have my personality great on them gradually over the course of a couple months. Which doesn't happen with you. But yeah, but you know what I mean? It's like you pop in. You pop out. You're like, that's all. That's all. It's a dream to pop in. Yeah. I love to pop in. Popping in is the dream. Yeah. You're a thing in overcompensating where I was in it for like two scenes. By the way, mind you, one of them got cut and shout out to Benny, Benny, but I'm truly popping in is the dream. I was like, they've all been there forever. Yeah. They're exhausted. I come in for two days. I'm a fucking delight. You're a delight. Leave. Many leave. And you get to like, I also, it's like, I can find a fabulous establishment anywhere for two days. Like, do you know what I mean? You go to the one restaurant. Yes. You go to the one coffee shop. There for three months, you're like, all they have is this one type of food or this one place. Yeah. But if you're there for a second, you're like, I want to sample their cheesecake factor or whatever they're like, whatever they're like, Diner, what it like, I feel like every state has like some random thing or restaurant that you're like, I'm going to pop into this and like, experience this. The first, I want a hundred percent identify with what you're saying. The first two days in any place, you're like, I get why people live here. I envision my whole life there. And then week six in Wilmington, you're like, someone must kill me. Someone must kill me. I have nothing to eat. I've run out of stuff. I've run out stuff. You also, you want to tell the residents of the town, you're like, you choose to live here all the time. Yeah. Why did you? Why are you going to the same? There's only one museum here and it's kind of a joke. And I've been three times. And I've been a bunch. Yeah. And I don't know how you keep going. Yeah. And they're like, we don't go. And I'm okay. Okay. So also you have a family. Okay. I need to look into that. Yeah. But then if I'm there for two days, I do fantasize about living in a town also like, I can really get behind like, do you know how in like random towns are sort of like fashion for that town? Yes. Like, you walk by a store and it's like, knit ponchos. I'm like, I need six of those. I'm a knit poncho girl. I live in this random town in like, upstate New York and I go to their one bakery. Yeah. That's the fantasy. It's the knit poncho essence. Yeah. And I'm leading the charge. I'm moving to beacon. I'm getting up there. Done. Done. Okay. I have to ask you. I want to ask you about the show. What can you tell me about it? Can you tell me what it's about? Can you tell me who's in it? Can you tell me what you're loving and hating? I can tell you the title because we just said, I know I'm so excited. It's called I love LA. I love LA. I love LA. I love LA. That song bangs, by the way. That song fucking bangs. I listen to it. When we were moving out here from Chicago, like a bunch of our friends, that was like a big joke because we were playing that for weeks being. Yes. Get into it. Get into it. We love it. Yeah. I feel like it's also like layered because when you first moved here, did you love it right away? Like what was your journey with when you moved here? I actually did. I mean, I don't live here anymore, but like I moved here during COVID and it was such a funny thing where like everything was shut down. Yeah. No one was on the freeways. So I was just like, every day for fun, me and chance and Shelby and a couple other buddies who had moved here around the same time. We were just the only thing we could do is like COVID test, getting the car drive around together with the wind.
and listen to music, and so I was just driving around LA being like, this place is gorgeous. - Yeah, there's no traffic. - There's no traffic, and that's how I got to know like driving around LA. - Yeah. - And then, yeah, the second thing started coming back, it just felt like we were in the most special place on Earth. - Yeah. - And I do feel that LA is like such a beautiful special city. - Yeah. - Is that, is the show, why did you choose I love LA for the title? - I think like it was, because I moved here also during COVID, but I had a, and by the way, the memory of their all there was to do was take COVID test. That took up so much time of our life. - Yes. - And I took like so many different, I did like spit in a jar, fill the whole jar with your spit, no swab, like mouth temperature, cone thing. It was really amazing. - Mind you, I got the vaccine from two soldiers in a parking garage in Long Beach. Like it was a scary time. - It was scary. - And I cried. - When you got the vaccine. - When I got the vaccine, I cried. I literally stepped outside the parking garage in Long Beach, and I was like, I was like seeing colors again for the first time. - They're insane. - They're like, stay here for a little bit, you might pass out. I was like, I don't care. - I don't care, I don't care. - I would love to die at this parking garage. - I would love to, with these two, was soldiers? - The soldiers. - National guards people were like, okay, lift your sleeve. I was like, yes sir, like I was scared, but I was ready. - Yeah, totally. I feel like I came here to be on a sitcom, and I didn't really know it was a sitcom when I, when I did it, because I auditioned for it before COVID, and then I just got the pilot, but then they picked up the show. But I was like, I didn't realize it was honesty. I was so confused. I didn't know anything, and I like crashed my car like one week into being in LA. My rental car, it was disaster, and there were really bad fires, and I was living in North Hollywood. - Same. That is such a, by the way, by the way. - By the way. - Moving to North Hollywood is a ride of passage. - You have to. - You have to. - You have to. I was like in, do you know how they like pop up those like buildings that are like, this used to be a parking garage. Now it's a parking garage with three apartments over it. That was like where I was staying, and I remember I like got out of my car, like out of my Uber, out of the airport, and I walked up to the building, and there was human shit, like a huge amount of human shit. - I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. - I love it, like, it was just a steaming pile of shit, like right outside the door, and the sky was like brown from the fires. - Yeah. - And I was like, fabulous. - I think it's like, okay, my dream has come true. - My dream has come true. And so I think like it took me, I think it's like a little bit the perspective of like moving from a different coast, and like figuring it out, but then like loving so much about it. - Yeah. - But yeah, that was, that also like I'm not a good driver. Like I have gotten into so many cars, how many car accidents have you gotten? - Oh God, probably. - I wanna know what a normal amount is. - It's before I say a lot. - Okay, yeah, before I say my number. - Yeah. (laughing) - We're doing body count. - Yeah, it's like what's your number? I'll do like three less than that. - Yeah. (laughing) - God, I don't know, I guess maybe I'm trying to think, I think, I think three. I think three, yeah. - Okay, ever, or in our life. (laughing) - A total of life. - A total of life. - Really, that's okay. - And one was a deer in high school. - Okay. - So is that making you feel really bad? 'Cause I don't wanna make you feel bad. - I wanna see some of my car accidents, I'm calling them car accidents are like little scratches or scrapes like in a parking garage. - I'll go to five then, I'll go to five. - Okay, I can go to five on that. - Okay. - If it's hitting something in a parking garage, I can go to five. - Okay, okay. - Yours is north of 20? - No, no, no. - Well, just the way you're responding, I'm like scared for you. - No, no, no, no, but it's like each one is like, you know, is one. You know, I got my most recent car accident was on Valentine's Day, and it was a disaster. And the thing that I really struggle with is not immediately taking fault. To be fair, it was fully my fault. I changed lanes at a stoplight where no one was moving. And a car was coming, and I just, I checked, but I didn't, I have a hard time like guessing the speed of other cars, and also like knowing how close other cars are to mine, and then also how big my car is. - Yeah, those are some pretty important things. - Things, yeah. - I get my license. - Each one is a one, yeah. - Each one of those. So I got overwhelmed, so anyways, he crushed, basically I went into the lane without warning from zero speed to fast speed, and he crushed into my car. And then we both got out of our cars, and then he was like mad at me, totally fair. - Totally. - Totally fair. - That's right, yeah. - And I like immediately was like, I'm so sorry, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. 'Cause you're not supposed to do that, but I just was like, I know this is my fault. I totally know this is my fault. Anyways, at the end of it, he said happy Valentine's Day, and I think in what way? - Just in like a happy Valentine's Day, I guess. (laughing) It was like so-- - Okay, loving him, actually. - Loving him. He was actually really sweet after I was said sorry. - Yeah. - And then it was totally, if I know it was her, there was just damage to both cars that I had to pay for, which was ultimately an upgrade, but it's okay. - It's okay. - It's okay, but that was my most recent one was Valentine's Day, so it's actually been a while. - It's been a while, that's months ago, by the way. - I feel like I, we talked about this, it's like every six months, once you get in a car accident, you're safe for six months. - Yeah, totally. - And also-- - And then you get in another. - I just wanna say to your defense, you're a beautiful sweet girl in LA who works in entertainment, they should have a subsidy for you. Twice a year, some of the work should pay for your car accident. - Yes. - Let's just-- - Order brothers, pay for this. - Just cover it. - She's a beautiful, fine woman. - I'm driving to work, stress. - She's making TV so that nurses can watch something when they get off shift, like pay for her car accident. - Yeah, exactly. - She's gonna merge with house signaling. - Yes. - I don't know. - Sorry. - I don't know what to say. - Sorry. - I can't signal, I'm thinking of ideas. - Hello. She's breaking story. - I'm the creative. - She's breaking story. She has to merge with house signaling. - Yeah, I can't. - We need to see Runner now. - Yes. - We need a see story runner now. - No, we can't, we can't be, yeah. - I, one time in college, I hit a girl. (laughing) Hold on. I was turning in my car. - Okay. - And this girl, she was in the right. She was driving, I was turning, she hit my car. - Okay, she was in a car. - Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah. Girl was in car. I hit a car that contained a girl. - Okay, totally. Already I'm on your side. - Right, it's like the car contained a girl. I had no way of knowing that. - Yeah. - By the way, if I knew it was a girl in there, I never would have done this. - Never would have. - But I turned in a way that forced her to hit me. It was totally my fault. We got out and I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And she was like, I actually come to your improv shows every week. And I was like, oh my God, that's so sweet. Do you wanna go to dinner? And then we went to dinner and she was like, it's crazy how you made me hit you back there. I was like, I know, girl. And then we talked about life. And then I was like, I have an improv show tonight. Do you wanna come? I was putting on going, I was like, okay, two, remember this? And she came, I believe her name was Becca, maybe. But she came to the improv show and then I was like, hey, no pressure at all, but do you think our parents could just talk this out, kind of buddy style without the insurance companies? And she was like, I'll ask my dad and her dad was like, absolutely not. So I didn't have to pay for that, but. - You did the dad, do you wanna come to my improv show? - Hey, how do you feel about improv comedy, sir? - Yeah. - And he said, I feel like, give me your insurance. - Really? Yeah, give me that card right now. - Go ahead and call Geico, yeah. - Oh my God. - But yeah, girls, yeah, girls and entertainers, like I just think we deserve to merge. - Yeah. We're just, we're thinking, we're juggling a lot. - We're juggling a lot. We have a lot going on and it's like people think being an entertainer is so easy, but you try thinking of a third act, interesting scenario, while signaling that you're gonna turn. - You can't. You can't. - You can't. - You could never. - No. - And nor can I. - I never thought of a good idea, but I'm trying, but I'm trying. I also, I, when you said I hit a girl, I've been hit by a car walking. - Okay. - But I'm okay. - She's good. - Obviously. - She's good. - But. (clapping) - I'm totally fine. It was on the Shakespeare Bridge in Los Phyllis. - Okay. - And it's like, do you know that intersection? It's sort of like three walkways. But to cross, you're sort of asking, minimum three sometimes four cars not to drive. Which is really hard to do when you're in L.A. is to ask a car not to drive. - Cars love to drive in L.A. in New York, it's like sort of like good luck. But here, it's like, you're asking a lot. - When you're just bang on the hood and you go, I'm like, I don't know, but in L.A. - I don't know. I may. - Sorry. - Even if it's a walk signal. So anyways, I'm walking, I'm on the phone with my friend Emma and I'm like, whatever, complaining blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then a car turns and hits me but like slowly. And it was like a low car. I don't know the name of any cars. - That's okay. - Except for like truck. - Yeah, truck. No, and that's one of the biggest types, by the way. - Yes. - Like in your defense. - Truck is one of the main cars. - And thank God, it wasn't a truck. It was like a low car. It was like a little car. Yeah, it was a good it was a
like a business car. - It was like-- - Yes. I think of someone who goes to an office, that's kind of the car they drive. - They have like a small clutch. - Small clutch, little purse. - Yeah. - And the front of it was long. If anyone knows what kind of car this is, let me know. - At the moment, it sounds like an El Camino. (laughing) - That's old. - Yes. - Okay. - But that's one of the types of cars, old. - And one of the types of cars. It was like medium new. - Okay. - I feel like they bought it used but good. - Yeah. - Anyways, she hits me and I sort of fall onto the car. My phone gets knocked on my hand, my water bottle, and then I fall on the ground. - We're okay, so can I just, when the car hits you? So if these are your legs and they have the knee joints-- - Yeah, yeah. - Do you get hit like this and fall back onto the car, or do you get hit from the side? - It's sort of like, I saw the car coming, and I go, I go, whoa, whoa, whoa! (laughing) - Hey! - Hey! - Mister! - Whoa, whoa, whoa, I literally was trying-- - You're on one skate, holding pizza boxes. (laughing) - Yeah. - It's like, doesn't, they can't hear you if they're, making the turn, they can't see, you know what I mean? Like, it's like me saying, whoa, was not gonna stop, but I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, and sort of turn towards the car, really good survival in six. - Okay. - And so then I land kind of like on it, but then I fall back on the ground. Water bottle on my hand. Then it's like, already, this is like a packed intersection. Everybody like stops. There's like a couple walking their dog. I start to cry because I'm like scared, or whatever, 'cause I go, I go, I go, I go, I go. (laughing) - I can't explain it, but I do start to cry randomly. - I need you to cry embarrassing. And then the woman who hit me, she gets out of her car, she starts crying. - This is beautiful. - I would also do it by car. - This is frankly sisterhood of the traveling pants. - Literally. - This is the y'all y'all sisterhood. - Yep, and she starts crying. And then everyone's sort of like looking. It's, I'm, the wind's knocked out of me, but and I'm like, have a little scratch, but I'm fine. - Yeah. - I get up, I forget by the way that my friend is on the phone. So they're my friend Emma. They're like listening to this whole thing. And it's like, by the way, like, imagine me on the phone being like, yeah, I just, I think it's like weird that like, you know, they didn't reply to my email, blah, blah, blah. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, car. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Whoa, whoa, it's so funny. - Like, bitching on the phone about something so unimportant. Whoa, whoa, whoa, crap. - I don't get out of bed for less than 50. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Literally. And then the couple walking the dog, they like intervene in case like, they're sort of trying to intervene between me and the woman that hit me. But me and the woman that hit me sort of connect immediately because she starts crying. She goes, this is so devastating. I'm on my way to a funeral. - No. - Yes. - And by the way, if she's lying brilliant. - Brilliant. - Brilliant. - Brilliant. She goes, I'm on my way to a funeral and I'm so sorry, this just reminded me how precious life is. - Well, then this is, you see what could happen if the world was only women? (laughing) Do you see how a horrible thing immediately became like an interesting, beautiful musing on like our time here on earth? - Yeah. - If it wasn't me and you would be like, "You dumb brat!" You know, it's like, "Are you walking now? "You walking that way? "What do you mean, whoa, whoa, whoa." - What do you mean? - And then the couple with the dog was sort of like, "Are you okay to me?" I was like, "Yes." And then to the woman they were like, "Are you okay?" And she was like, "No." (laughing) Then she gets back in the car, drives away. I sort of pick up the phone and say to my friend Emma, like, "Don't worry, I'm not dead." Emma was like, "That was crazy." And then it was fine. It was sort of, it was almost awkward after we all realized like we were all fine. 'Cause then the couple was like, "All right, we're just gonna walk, "do the rest of the walk with our dog." And the woman was like, "I'm gonna go to the funeral." - Everyone's like embarrassed that they made a big deal. - Yeah, no, literally. I was like, "I'm just gonna go home, it's all good." - Yeah. - But that was my car hits, yeah. - Your whoa, whoa, whoa. Reminds me of something. I do, I bike in New York a lot. - Yeah. - Many times on a bicycle in New York, someone's about to hit me and I'll just go, "Don't!" I just yell, "Don't." And then they usually don't, yeah. - See, the thing is though, is that I feel like a verbal warning is helpful and it's also like an energy thing. When you go, "Don't!" - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm gonna try "Don't" next time. - Try "Don't" 'cause it works. - 'Cause whoa, whoa, whoa, sort of feels like, I can't believe this is happening. Versus like "Don't" is like stop right there. It's not gonna happen. - Yeah, I had like, it's truly a week ago, I was biking in Bushwick, a humiliating thing to have to say out loud. 'Cause it's just like, of course you were. I was biking through Bushwick and this woman, this woman like threw her door open and almost doored me to death. And I like, swarves and I was like, "God damn it." And then she gets out of the car and she was a beautiful young woman and she goes, "She goes, "I'm so sorry, I'm a huge fan." - And I was like, "Not now." - Not now. - I was like, "Girl, that means the world to me? "Not now." - But not now. - No, no, you almost killed me. - No, but truly it was psychotic how quickly I turned up. She said that and I was like, I was like, "Thank you for watching." - You're like, "Should we do a video?" And do you want me to say happy birthday to that? - Did you mind? - I'm like, I'm like, do you want to picture? Like I immediately went into psychomode, but it was scary. - It was scary by beautiful. Again, beautiful. - Beautiful. - If only women and gay people got into conflict. - Peace. - 'Cause when two women are crying, it's like no one's at fault. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like when you got hit by that car, you were both women crying, so everyone just agreed, like, nothing happened to you. - It neutralized the situation. - Yeah. - If I think if a woman, I did actually, a woman hit me with her car one time, my car with her car that was containing each of us. She rear-ended me and she got out and she was, she fucked up the back of my car. And this is when I was like, very broke. - Yeah. - She fucked my car up and she got out and she was like, I'm so sorry, my kids are in there and like, everybody's okay, but I have no idea how I'm gonna pay for this, but like I'm gonna figure it out. And I was like, get out of here. I was like, go. I was like, go. She was like, no, we have to call someone. I was like, get out of here. And she let her go. - I was like, I'll let them take me. - I was like, oh we can just leave. - She's like, no, we do get to make hot toys. I'm like, go before they get here. - I'm like, I don't care, go honey, go. - You be free, I'm gonna take this. - Yeah. - And truly she left and then like 10 minutes later, I was like, my neck hurts and my car's broke. (laughing) I was like, hold on. - I was like, what do I have to just do? I was like, truly my neck hurts and my car's fucked up. - Yeah. - But it was like, you know, she had other shit going on. - Yeah. - Girls are going through a lot sometimes. - Girls are going through a lot. - Yeah. - Oh my God. Kids in the car is rough. Kids in the car are crazy. - Yeah. - And it's like, of course my neck is a little fucked up, but your kids are in there. - Yeah. - Hold on, I wanna show you something, okay? - Okay, I'm scared. - Don't be scared, it's gonna be beautiful, I think. - Okay. Okay, I just had to, oh my gosh, it's just so tough, 'cause I don't want you to have to see all of it, you know? - Yeah. - There's just one little thing I wanna show you. If that's okay. - Yes. - So, you, well I'll just show you. Okay, we showed him the screen chance. Yes, well I just want the image. I just want the image. Not Rachel. - Oh my God. - This is an image from you. This is an image from you and Lay, Miserah. (laughing) Lay, Miserah. - You can't miss a love. - I wanna know how this informs where we are today. 'Cause here you are this iconic actress with this incredible HBO show. - Wow, you really are trying to cancel me. - But it's her, you know? - It's her. - Wait, is this bad? - No, it's her. (laughing) - I'm like, 'cause by the way, we will cut this. - We will, no, no. It's just what's really, let me explain what's going on. - Okay. - So, I am playing Madame Canardier. - Yes. - In my high school performance of, and this is sort of me in between full costume and makeup. This is like a fitting photo, you know what I mean? So, it's also the plays would play run in for two weekends in like February. So, it's the dead of winter. I've made the creative choice to wear heads. (laughing) I don't know what that is. - It looks just like a beanie. I don't think this is anything wrong with that. - It's like a scarf. It's like trying to be ski core or something, but it looks, it's confusing because you're sort of like, what's the costume, what's her? - What's her, what's the costume, what is it in? - Yes, and what's crazy is that, what's her, what's me is worse, is crazier than the costume? (laughing) - And the costume is crazy. - The costume's nuts. - But beautiful, thank you to the designers. - Shout out. - Jack Sullivan's mom. - Shout out. - But the, yes, there's a lot going on. I will say, playing Madame Stardier and being in Les Mis, I'm not wearing it there, but I wore a corset, and it was the first time I connected with my boobs. - Really? - Yes, it was like, it was the first time I connected with my sexuality. I put that corset on, everyone treated me different. - No. - I was like, it changed my entire, like, do you know those movies where it's like, we've been losers all of high school, and then we got one last shot to, like, blow them all away. That was me. - That was me. - That was me. - That was me. - To being in Les Mis, wearing a corset, everything changed. It was like, I was a loser and then all of a sudden, by the way, I wasn't like, cool, but then I had boobs and it changed, like, everything, and different people started to talk to me. I also, in my mind, it was 'cause I was good in the play, but looking back, I think it was just that, [BLANK_AUDIO]
workhorse it. We're all doing some version of that. We're all doing some version of that, but that was like a, that was a big shift. Yeah. Yeah. Was it like a big, was it like a big thing to get that role? Like did you feel like oh my god. Yes, because I was on stumble every other year. Yeah. I didn't do theater. So I hear about these things and I'm like oh my god getting a role must have been like well. Huge. Yeah. Because it was like, it was like every, there was definitely like a hierarchy. There were people that were expected to be roles. There was the whole the cast list ever and running to it all of that stuff. Yeah. And was it a physical list that you would run to? Yeah. Okay. That fucking rocks. And it was like they would post it on like a Friday night. And so then people would drive back to school to see it and everyone would like run. But you didn't know what time he was going to post it. So it's like you're waiting to see when it gets posted. And then you come and you look at it and like and then everyone gets mad over the weekend and people text about it and like make weird posts. Yeah. They should do that. They should create like a they should create a billboard in LA. That's like just all the casting directors send who got what and your team isn't allowed to call you to tell you you have to like go just look up at the billboard. You have to drive to the billboard. Yeah, you have to drive to the billboard. And it's just like hundreds of actors being like fuck. And one guy being like yeah. And everyone hates that guy. And then if you do get it, you have to like maintain some sort of dignity and be like great. I'm really happy and leave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that actually be really good for the community. I think so. I think like let's stop doing all this in silence. Let's make the billboard. No. Yeah. Let's bring the group chats into real life. Yeah. Let's fight in front of the billboard. Let's fight. Let's have people fighting. Let's have people fighting in the streets. Over the rolls. Over the rolls. I think it would be really, really interesting actually and I would like that. I think let's do it. Let's do it. So the show comes out in November. Yes. And tell me about the cast. Cast is fabulous. Love them all. We have Jordan Firstman who you know Odessa Zion, true Whitaker, Josh Hutcherson, Layton Meester. Crazy. Um, we have some fun. I don't know how to call. Do you know how they're like guest star series regular? We have guest star. I don't know what the terms mean something. But it's like, yeah, I know what you're trying to know what you're saying. You have fun. People popping in. Fun people popping in. Yeah. Um, Gwen Blackwell who's amazing. Moses Ingram who's amazing. Um, yeah, the whole cast like everyone, everyone, I feel like really blew me away with because when you're in the writer's room, oh my god, I have to talk to you about writer's rooms because you get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I never done one before. Yeah. And then I'm running one disaster. I'm literally like, there's so much thinking and like, there's so much like talking about thinking. Yeah. And there is got sounding really stupid. But it's like you have to like say your thoughts out loud to other people. Usually I'm keeping my thoughts in my head or I'm telling them to like one other person. All of them, you have to defend your ideas to a room full of people. It's truly like art by committee. It's like I'm giving my thought and everyone's sounding off on if it's good or not. It's horrifying. It's horrifying. Yeah. And, and, and like, so anyways, you get so into the headiness of it. And Claire, we talked about this a lot where it's like when you're only in script, you get to a point where you're like, is this even real? Are any of these people even real? Like, who is my, okay? Like, she's made up. This is fake. And then like you, you bring in actors and they like add their sauce to it. And I feel like all of the actors who were on the show like every one of them were would just bring something so funny and unique and real and honest to the characters or sometimes like also you write a joke that sounds like too much like a joke like this is something that I think you're really brilliant at, which is like you can play anytime you're doing comedy. There's such like truth to it. And like, they're it's backed up by like this emotional honesty. And like, I think that that's something that's so special because anytime you have someone who's like doing a joke when they're like, I'm throwing the joke, it feels like it feels like when someone's like trying to make you come and they're like, you're coming. You're coming. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're going too much. Yes, too much. And it feels like it just feels like weird. And anyways, you have this and I feel like the actors on the show had this where it's like they they just live in it and breathe in it. And it allows it to play so much more. And like anytime I would hear that like we did table reads for all the scripts. And then I would like hear them read it out loud. And I would like breathe a sigh of relief because I would be like, okay, okay. This sounds like real. This sounds like people talking as opposed to like like I hate when you can like hear the people on the type of being like, this is funny. Yeah, you don't you hate when and we all do it sometimes. Yeah, I do it in my own writing a lot where you hear it read back to you where you hear it on its feet and you go, oh, it feels like I was trying to be clever. Yes. And I don't even know if I was, but that's just how it's it's reading in the room, you know. And I'm not even trying to be clever. I'm just trying to write a sentence, but it's like, it was just hard enough. I'm getting in a car crash every six months trying to write one sentence. But it's like, yeah. And then there, there is also the joy of like like working with other writers. And they all have like better ideas than you. And you're like, thank God. Thank God you guys are here because like I think that that is the exciting part of the collective is like you get all these different ideas and perspectives and like stories. And I think it's fun. Like even just like you and me going back and forth on our multiple car accidents for 10 minutes. Like it's like one story sparks another story and whatever. And like that part was really fun for me getting to like hear everybody's different. Like just ideas and like things that have happened to them where it's like, Oh, that's genius. I never experienced that. Like I could never think of this idea on my own. Yeah. You know, I mean, so many people are going to watch the show obviously because of you and because of HBO and the incredible cast that you have put together like, what do you want? What do you want the show to do for people? Like I think, you know, shows do different things. Like I think the like when you watch girls or sex in the city or a lot of these shows that you're probably like, you know, I think the art and conversation with like when people are thinking about your show, they're going like, Oh my god, these incredible shows that have informed our culture. They do different things for different people. They make you want to live in New York or they make you want to be in a psychotic relationship or they make you want to like whatever, whatever. Like what do you want the show to do for the people watching? I want well, one thing that I would love is like I when I was in college, like I would watch with my roommates, like HBO shows Sunday nights. And it was like we would make a huge thing of banana bread and then just like watch all the shows back to back to back. And I feel like there's something special about getting to like be a weekly show and sort of like create the anticipation and wait for something to drop. Like I think I always like felt like I got to be a part of something when I was doing that. And I love like having something to gossip about that's like not real but feels real. Yeah. Um like I got into the summer I turned pretty because I was like I need my what are my sister's text email. I have to get into this and I'm so into it. And now I'm like, Oh my god. Oh my god. Conrad like, Oh my god. But like I you it's fun to like get into something. So I think that. And then the show itself like I I feel like I want people to have fun and feel like they're a part of the world of the show and like get to go on adventures with the cast. Like I think like you know drama happens of course, drama happens in life. But I think like I recently have been like wanting to watch stuff that is like fun and like takes me to a place away from everything. And like for sure. And like escape and have fun. Um yeah. Yeah. It's so cool that you guys are doing it weekly. That's so exciting. I mean I I I'm really craving and missing that. The like event highs like yes. No, we all tune in and we wait a little bit and we have some delayed gratification for anything ever anymore. Like I like that. I think it's fun and you get to like it makes it like a ritual. Like like I remember that was like our Sunday night ritual. It was like big little eyes, girls, whatever. And like you I love to when they're like last week. These girls texted each other like and you're like oh my god. I remember that. And it rings you back. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, they're texting. Don't do that. Like that. Like I think that's really that's fun and special. Yeah. Okay. How are you balancing all of like you're doing so much. Mind you, I would never showrun a show in a million fucking years. Like when I heard you were doing that. This is disaster. I was like. See huge mistake. No. No, I think it's it really require like I'm so impressed by that genuinely. And I when I heard you were doing that, I was like thank god because I trust her to do that. Number one and number two, like I just am very, very impressed by by that and I don't know if people know how difficult
that is and so you're balancing so many different things though I feel like you've got all these different like irons in the fire and obviously I imagine right now like show is the big thing yeah I am show and anything else other than show I am show but like how are you how are you balancing all of those things while you're doing this crazy big undertaking I think I didn't know how psychotic it was when I did it yeah I was like totally showrun like run the show perfect yeah um and then I was like oh it's I feel like I'm running an insurance company sometimes where you're like I've got to do the paper paperwork like and I think like it's a lot but also everyone who works on the show is so incredible Emma Barry my co-showrunner is like amazing Maxel Vestry who you know Max is a genius yes and he's one of our EPs Lorraine Scaforio who directed the pilot and two other episodes I eat a Roger's or one of our producer like everyone is so amazing and then Amy and Ally who work at HBO are amazing so I felt like I never felt like judge that it was my first time doing it and I was like able to be I constantly was like so today we like you get an email being like today we're going on a scout for this or we have a meeting a mixed thing or this thing or whatever and I'm like I don't know what that is yeah obviously I will be there but I don't know what it is I will show up that's what I can promise you I can promise you I'll be there yeah Claire and I will be there but we don't know what's happening yeah and so and so literally there were times where I would like Google stuff and I would be like what is this or what kind of they're like we're looking to hire a like this person for editing blah blah blah and the name of a job that I don't know and I'd be like that sounds awesome and then I get to the interview and I'm like so what would you say this job entails what do you do what do you do in your words in your words what happens when you come to the office if you come at all do you work from home what is this yeah let's walk through this I hire you then what what's next yeah what's next what's next and frankly what should I be looking for what should I be asking you what if you were to ask yourself a question that you want me to ask you what would it be okay fun idea fun idea say ten things you do in a day quick yes so it was it was a lot of that there was one day in the writers room where because I also had only ever written I'd written pilots multiple pilots but I had pitched multiple shows that never got sold and I like had submitted scripts for staffing I never got staffed and so my only experience really was like writing movies and writing bottoms just burping really and so I know the like shape of what a movie is supposed to be but it's different than a TV episode so one day in front of all the writers I was like getting really like in my head about like the shape of what an episode should be and it's like all of our writers were lovely and no one would ever judge me but still you're in front of a group of people that you're supposed to be leading so I walk up to the board and I draw like a squiggly line and I'm like so if a movie is like this and then a show is like and then I start drawing these lines and I turn around and I look at the room and everyone's like and I was like so I was like fuck how do I how do I back away from this and I look to Max and Max is like Max is like yo and I was like then none of this matters I'm really like I'm racing as if it's like an exercise I'm like throw it away we don't need this guys screw we're just let's just blue sky a word I learned two days ago yeah like it was like it was house numbers it's bad pitch it's throw anything out there we don't even need the board burn it like it was so it was like I so in that moment was like I don't know what I'm doing and it was so scary Max in the corner being like no no there would be so many moments Max is amazing and so is Emma where I was like they they had so much more experience than me but they never made me feel like I was stupid or like my ideas because I still knew like what I wanted to show to be about and I knew I had all these ideas for the season but like I didn't always know how to like express them and I feel like there were so many times during the room where I would like start to say something and then I would be like and trailing off and Max would be like exactly and so we're just kind of the save I was like whew texting him under the table like thanks girl needed that but it was yeah it was it was definitely like a learning curve and then the other thing that I feel like the process of show running is I would I would learn a new word and I couldn't stop saying of course you learn a new word you go oh I'm gonna run that I'm gonna beat that into the dirt yeah I'm gonna like when I when I learned the word vestigial oh vestigial yeah yeah yeah yeah let's go yeah when they're like that's vestigial from the last draft let's pull it now I'm like in my life I'm like that shirt's vestigial that's from 2018 let's pull that shirt it's a little vestigial no there's something addicting there's a very specific language in way that people talk about making TV yes that when I wrote for Bigmouth like my first writing job the whole first season really was me and Max was there and he's so such a brilliant mine for TV that the whole first season was me just being like someone be like oh this dialogue feels sweaty and I be like it does it does feel sweaty yeah sweating all over us like learning the terminology yes and then season two like having younger writers come in and being like oh now they're learning the way we talk about it yes it's a lot of fun it feels like I have a secret I know I'm like in a club yeah yeah you're like yeah the different terms that was really fun learning that the other thing is I feel like I pulled different advice from like friends who had written on show like I guess I had the experience of when I and I wrote our Comedy Central thing she had already been a writer's assistant and I remember saying something to her that was like it feels like we just read we we get notes and then we write it different and then we just go back to the old way and she's like uh-huh yeah she's like that's the whole process I was like okay cool just checking making sure but like texting different people who had done different things same with directing because I directed for the first time I directed one of the episodes and I was like the whole time we were shooting because I directed the finale I was like stealing phrases from the other directors yeah like Bill Benz would sometimes say like just do like the stupid version which is like the version where it's like so obvious what you're playing and then like what else did he say like a little bit of chefa yeah he's like let's just get a little more chefa off the top I'm like I love that a little chefa just a little extra before we get in we're gonna cut the chefa but we need a just in case like little terms like that or different ways people would do stuff like Lorraine like I think like sometimes she would come over and like say something to really quiet like why don't you try to do that and I was like oh girl I'm gonna take that that's mine now that's mine now like you try little things and I feel like like my favorite part of the show running process is a whole is you get to work with so many like amazing people and learn from everyone and it's like everyone wants the same thing which is they want to make something great that was the other thing is I didn't feel like there was a single person who worked on the show who wasn't like I'm giving my all I'm bringing my best energy and like I want this to be good so you're like we're all on the same side and even if we like disagree about how something should be like if I have to defend my argument or my point of view to someone then I have to like be better at expressing my idea which in turn makes me like understand more why I think it should be that way and sometimes in the process of explaining my point of view I'm like I'm wrong yeah like you know what I mean sometimes you're like what has to be this way because actually yeah so what you said as it turns out is interesting yeah yeah yeah interrogating your point of view is like such a beautiful part of collaboration to be like oh I was I was dead certain that I was right about this and then you see someone else talk about it and you're like actually I'm wrong I'm willing to give on that I'm willing to give on that and I'm like I'm totally willing to give if you have a better idea done yeah I'd rather have the better idea than than whatever I thought of when I was crashing my car this morning Rachel I have a question for you okay you know we ask everyone on the show what's so true to you okay what's so true to me is that like I think everybody needs a toxic in a fun way not like you know but everyone needs like a toxic relationship where they get dragged
through the dirt. - Yeah. - Or if you don't have that, maybe like a really bad friendship. (laughing) To shape your personality. - Yes. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's necessary. - You need it. - It's crucial, you have to go through hell. - Yeah. - You have to go through hell with somebody. - Yeah. - I feel like most people do have one of those. - You have to, and then it's like where, 'cause anyone who's like, I learned healthy boundaries on my own. It's like, you think that, but then you even, let's say, you have like the perfect childhood. Everyone's kind to you and you learn like healthy boundaries. It's like, you don't actually know healthy boundaries, 'cause they haven't been tested yet. - By somebody truly evil. (laughing) - Yeah, a crazy person in there. 'Cause there's crazy people out there. So you need to, you need to experience a crazy person. - With the means test your wellness. - Yes. - Yeah, and then the boundaries really, they lock in, and I think it needs to be like, tested against something. - Also, being with a crazy person in any kind of relationship. - It's awesome. - It's, genuinely. - It's kind of awesome. - Creative romantic, platonic. It doesn't matter. Sometimes a crazy person enters your life, and you're like, I like how insane you are. This feels good. - This feels good. - Yeah, it's nice. And so those boundaries do start to dissolve a little bit, because you're like, I know we're being crazy, but it's so fun. - But it's fun of fun. - Yeah. - And then after you do it, then after the fun part goes away, it goes gets really bad. - Yeah. - And then you go, okay, this is what I have my boundaries for. And then you can, and then after, this I feel like is my journey, is I was like, no boundaries at all. And then I got to this area where I was like, it's all boundaries. And that world's over. And cement. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't come in here. - Yeah. - It's like all these little rules that I came up with. I have so many little rules. I live by little rules that are like, if I don't have my brown broth, and I can't move, and then if I don't have my minutes alone, and I have to meditate, and then then then then then, and I can't see someone on weeknight, it's like whatever, all these things. And those are awesome too. - Yeah. - But then once you really feel good in your rules, then you can sort of peel back on rules, and go, this Wednesday, I'm going out to dinner. - Yeah. - Like, do you know what I mean? Or like, I'm gonna have milk and a plan. - I'm having milk. (laughs) I know it hurts my tummy. I'm doing it anyway. - I'm having milk tonight. - I truly had a milk night, but last week, I was like, I was like, I'm having full hairy Ben and Jerry's, and I will feel bad in the morning. - It doesn't matter. Because you know, this is the other thing that's great, is like when you're younger, like something happens and you're like, wait, why is this happening? Why does my stomach hurt? Why do I feel crazy out of control? Why am I like completely like unable to stop myself from whatever being in this thing with this person, whatever, you don't know what's going on. Then you learn. Then you know and you go, I don't want to do it, but then after time, you go, now that I know, I can do it a little. 'Cause I know my stomach's gonna hurt tomorrow. That's okay, I'll plan. - I'm gonna do exactly, exactly. It's like you plan milk night for when you don't have something early the next morning. - No, I can wake up at the end of the day. - And then you have shit morning. - You have shit morning. It's milk night into shit morning. (laughs) - It'll be my day. - No, but you actually saying something so real, which is like, you do just, you go, okay, I figured things out. I made my rules, I lived really strictly about this, that, or the other, this relationship, or this food, or this, whatever. And then once you know the consequences, and you fully reckon with them, then you're like, I can break the rules. I'll just plan on how I break them. - I plan on how I break them. - Yeah. - Really, really good. - Yeah. The other thing, this part kind of sucks is like, do you know, like when you're going through like a hard time? - Never happened to me. - Really? - I've never had a hard time, isn't that crazy? - Totally. (laughs) - Yes, I know when you're going through a hard time. - No, yes, when you're going through a hard time. - And before, I would only realize that it was a hard time after. I would be like, wait, that was a really hard time. Now I realize that when I'm in it, I'm like, shit. And you're sort of like, you know that it'll be over at a certain point. So you can't even do the drama. Like to me, it used to be like, if I was going through a breakup or something, I would be like, it's over, it's over, it's over. I would just like throw myself into it. And now you're like, this will pass. - Yeah. - I'll be okay, couple nights with the girls. It'll be fine. I kind of miss the not knowing of like, what's going on. - This is the, I think about this all the time when I think about like, the kids in my life. Like my little cousins and stuff that I'm like, I love you so much and I want you, I want to give you lessons as quickly as I can so that your path and life will be easier. But the number one thing I can't give you that makes life so much easier is just data. That you have been through things and you've seen yourself, you've had a hard time and then you've had an easier time and then it's gotten hard again. And you look back and go like, oh, this is how I got through that hard time. You create your steps, you create your processes, you surround yourself with certain types of people. - Yeah. - I can't give you data. You will just have to live through some really uncomfortable moments to get to the place you're talking about of like, yeah, I can't really do the drama because I know this, yeah, this week sucks. And next week, it won't. And that's just what it is. - And that's just what it is. And it doesn't matter if you tell them there were so many things my mom told me that I was like, okay, Matt. And then literally years later, I was like, she was right. - Nailed it. - She was right. - She literally took me like, sorry, back to the middle. But my mom was like, your allergic to milk, I took you to a doctor, I was like, you're a liar. - I'm having milk. - I'm having milk. - And then I was like, oh, okay. And then I discovered all these other milks that are delicious. But like, it's just like a rule where it's or even like being in a bad relationship, your friends, your mom, or whatever can be like, you shouldn't do this. And you go, okay, I'm gonna do it for two more years. - Yeah. - And then never again. But it's like those types of things, it's like you, you can tell them, but they're gonna learn them on their own. - Yeah, they need their own data. - They need their own data. - Everybody has to get their own data. - And you'll figure it out. You'll figure out what you are good and bad at when things go good and bad. - Totally. - Yeah, Rachel, move a segment for you. This one has nothing to do with high school theater. - Okay. - Am I drinking too much water? - No, not enough milk though. - I feel like I'm drinking so much. - No, it's really, really important. You're actually setting a great example for everyone watching. This is a segment we play with everyone, Rachel. To your false, I'm gonna read you 15 statements. You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. - Okay. - If you get 10 or more correct, Rachel, we're gonna give you $50. - Ah! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Okay, are you ready? - Okay, okay. - Okay. A goldfish's memory span is only three seconds. - True. - False, it can be several months. Carrots improve your vision. - True. - True. Basketball was invented by a Canadian. - True. - True. The first email was sent in 1971. - True. - True. - There are no active six flags theme parks in the United States. - False. - False. The third city is Whitman, Germany. - True. - True. Sutton Foster was born in Australia to American parents. - Ah, true. - False, George. - Fuck. - 30 Rock was nominated for 56 Emmys. - True. - False, 114. - Fuck. - Championsys can't swim. - I've seen them walking around in the water. - True. - True. - Okay. - Blackberry's last phone was released in 2018. - Blackberry the phone. - False. - True. - Fuck. - There are 108 cars. - There are 108 cars in the standard deck of UNO cars. - I hate games. There's trust me on somebody. (laughing) - True. - True. NYU's motto is, "Look to the future." - Ah. - True. - False. - To persevere and to excel. Jingle bells was originally written for Thanksgiving. - True. - True. The trick's, the trick's rabbit's real name is Arnold. - True. - False, he has no real name. 99% of our solar systems masses the sun. - False. - True. - Fuck. - How'd she do? - So close. - So close. - So close. - Damn. I'm sorry. - Damn it. - If you need 50 bucks to call me girl, we know I've got you. - Okay, okay, thank you. - I've always got you. I will always hold you down like that. - Okay, thank you. You will. You will. I really will. - I remember you treated me for dinner our first day in Toronto. Do you remember that? - Pasta. - Pasta. - It was a delicious meal and it was so beautiful. - It really was. It was such a funny, our little life in Toronto was like, "Wait till I hang out every day for a little bit of a day." - It was perfect. - It was cute. - It was a sweater. I could be Canadian if I could sweater. - Oh my God, I do. - It's cutie. - And we went out too. - Yeah. We did. We were fun back then. - We were fun back then. - No, we do as work. - Grandmongering, Bob. - Grandmongering. - I'm talking about data and milk. (laughing) - Talking about the memory of a golf fish. (laughing) - Okay, so the show's coming out very, very excited about that. It comes out in November. Are you gonna get to like go on a vacation? Are you gonna go away for a little bit? What are you gonna do when you get free time again? - I am gonna hopefully move. I need to move. - A big stressful thing. I need to move. I need to repair my relationships with my loved ones. You know how it's like you go away and you don't give no one any time. - Apology tour, yeah. - Yes. And then sorry, one other thing Claire and I were talking about was we were like, you make promises the whole time. You make promises during the shoot, which is like, you're like, when we wrap, I'm gonna be at the clip. - Yeah. - I'm gonna be-- - I'm out. - I'm out. - Yeah. - Dealer Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday. Let's go on a weekend trip. I think we should all go to Cape Caut. It's like what? - Yeah. - It's like promises after promises. By the way, it's like no one's even holding me to them but I've like made them up in my head. - Yeah. - And so I am looking forward to doing two spending time with my loved ones again and going to the club with them. As I've said-- - I'll be making good on promises. - I'll be making good on promises. That's my big plan. - I truly relate to that so much. I was on tour in the spring. I was like this, I mean, they're already laughing 'cause truly, you should have seen all of tour, doing show until midnight, getting up at 4 a.m. for a flight to a new city like that. The whole tour, I was like, this summer, you're not gonna fucking hear from me. I'm going to Europe, no one's gonna truly worked every hour of the summer. - Every day. - And it was just like-- - In the curtains blocking up the light. - In here.
- It's 4 a.m. You're like, "Good morning." - Hey, what's up, y'all? Yeah, I worked every fucking minute of the summer and I'm just laughing at my old self that was making these promises. - I know. - You'll be lucky if you even get a text back for me this summer. No, I was on the phone every hour. - Every hour. - Yeah. - You're like completely reachable. - Yeah, toad, yep. - If I'm anything, it's reachable. - I am reachable. - Unfortunately, I am reachable. - Yeah. - You can get a hold of me. - Yeah. - I have my phone on Do Not Disturb. Everyone in my life just calls through it. - Yeah, oh yeah. - Everyone just calls twice. They're like, "I had to call twice again." I'm like, "I know." - I know. - I was trying, I was trying to set a boundary. - Yeah, no, no one respects it. And it's like. (laughing) - They're laughing 'cause they don't. - They're like, "Oh my God." - Seriously, Caleb, we need to schedule tomorrow. - I'll pick up. - I'll pick up. I just love you, Rachel. - I love you so much. - I'm so excited about the show. - I'm so happy that we got to talk. This is the other thing, last thing, to hang out with your friends. Do you have to schedule like a podcast or a work? - It's really a job. - Or a work. - You have to schedule a podcast or a work. - Or a work. - Yeah. And I'm so glad you don't count doing this podcast as a work. - This is not a work. - It's a different thing. - This is a different thing. - Do you think's for being on? - Thank you for having me. - We did it with Rachel. Yeah. - That was a hit down podcast.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host reflects on a deep emotional bond formed during a film shoot in Toronto, describing it as a formative and transformative experience.
A memorable "crying day" during filming created a powerful, shared emotional moment, reinforcing their connection with co-stars.
The host shares humorous and vulnerable stories of car accidents, including one on Valentine’s Day, highlighting their personal struggles with driving and emotional reactions.
A recurring theme is the joy of "popping in" briefly to a creative project, which creates excitement and a sense of adventure without long-term commitment.
The show *I Love LA* stems from a personal journey of moving to LA during the pandemic, with the title reflecting both the emotional and physical transformation of the experience.
The host emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, toxic relationships, and emotional testing in shaping healthy boundaries and self-awareness.
Showrunning is described as a demanding, collaborative process where the host learns from writers, directors, and staff through constant dialogue and creative iteration.
The podcast blends personal anecdotes with broader themes of community, creativity, and resilience, celebrating the fun and unpredictability of being in the entertainment industry.
Summary:
The podcast features a deeply personal and reflective conversation about the host’s journey in the entertainment industry, centered on emotional connections formed during film shoots and the creative process. A key narrative unfolds around a heartfelt film experience in Toronto, where emotional moments—like a "crying day" and a moment of shared vulnerability—strengthened bonds with co-stars and created lasting memories. The host shares candid stories of car accidents, including a Valentine’s Day crash, illustrating their personal struggles with driving and emotional reactions.
These anecdotes are woven with humor and self-awareness, highlighting the unpredictability and stress of everyday life. The host also discusses the show *I Love LA*, which stems from their move to Los Angeles during the pandemic, where the title symbolizes both a personal and emotional transformation. Central to the conversation is the idea that emotional growth comes from experiencing difficult or "toxic" relationships, which help shape healthy boundaries.
" The showrunning experience is portrayed as a challenging yet rewarding process of learning, listening, and co-creating with talented writers and crew members. Throughout, the tone is warm, self-deprecating, and celebratory of both personal growth and the shared energy of creative work. The conversation ends with a sense of community, resilience, and the enduring joy of connection—whether in film, on the road, or in everyday life.
FAQs
The show is titled 'I Love LA'.
Rachel chose the title because she moved to LA during COVID and formed strong emotional connections through simple activities like driving around and taking COVID tests, which made her feel deeply attached to the city.
Rachel and the cast had a 'famous crying day' during filming, where Rachel had to cry a lot in a deeply emotional scene, which created a strong bond among the cast and crew.
The scene was emotionally intense, and Rachel and the cast were in the background, with Rachel feeling the emotional weight of the moment, leading to a powerful and memorable experience.
She initially loved LA during the pandemic due to its calm and scenic nature, and later developed a deep appreciation for the city, despite the challenges of adjusting and living in a new environment.
Rachel has had several car accidents, including one on Valentine's Day, and she humorously shares how she struggles with judgment and speed, often ending up in close calls that she later reflects on with honesty and self-awareness.
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